Welcome to the Hanline and Bertha Henshaw Memorial Fund Commission meeting.

The meeting is now called to order.

Will the clerk please call the roll call to establish a quorum?

Thank you, President Smith.

Members, if you could please unmute your microphones.

Ex officio member Howard Chan is absence.

Commissioner Corpse.

Here.

Commissioner Yanez.

Here.

Commissioner Beckman.

Here.

Commissioner Rul.

Here.

Mr. Zamaniden.

President.

Commissioner Enoosa.

Here.

Vice President Ellis is absence and President Smith.

Here.

Thank you.

We have quorum.

Okay, this is always our longest meeting of the year.

We have new rules that the city has laid out for us that the meeting cannot go over two hours

without us unanimously agreeing to do that.

And then it can only go one more hour, which is a constraint we've never had.

So we'll be focused on getting through the agenda.

Our meeting will be conducted like it did like it was last year,

where we will only call up individual organizations if we have questions for them

because of the time constraint.

So I would like to remind members of the public that if you would like to speak on an agenda item

to turn in a speaker slip, if you're here representing a grant application,

then we will call on you.

But if for some reason you still feel a need to speak,

please fill out a speaker slip because otherwise you may not be called.

If you are called to speak, we'll try and keep it to two minutes once you're called on.

And after the first speaker on that agenda item, we will no longer accept

speaker slips.

So we'll now proceed with today's agenda.

I would like everyone to rise if you can for the opening acknowledgement.

This is an acknowledgement in honor of the Indigenous people and tribal lands.

To the original people of this land, the Nassanan people, the southern Maidu valley and plains

Miwok, Patwen-Winton peoples, and the people of Wilton Rancheria, Sacramento's only federally

recognized tribe, may we acknowledge and honor the native people who came before us and still walk

beside us today on these ancestral lands by choosing to gather today in the active practice

of acknowledgement and appreciation for Sacramento's Indigenous peoples.

History, contributions and lives.

Thank you. Please remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it

stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Okay, our first order of business is the consent calendar, which consists of the approval of the

Ann Lennon and Bertha Henshel Memorial Fund Commission meeting minutes. Clerk, are there any

members of the public who wish to speak on the consent calendar?

Thank you, Chair, or thank you, President Smith. I have no speakers on that item and just really

quickly for the record, there is a line item for recognition of service that'll be done after

the discussion calendar. Thank you. Are there any commissioners who wish to speak on this item?

Seeing none, is there a motion and a second for the consent calendar item to approve the

minutes of the last meeting? I approve the minutes. We have a motion to somebody who's second.

We have a motion and a second motion by Commissioner Yanes and a second by Commissioner Hinojosa.

Will the clerk please call the roll for a vote? Thank you, President Smith.

Commissioners, if you please unmute your microphones. Commissioner Corbs?

I. Commissioner Yanes? I. Commissioner Beckman? I. Commissioner Ruhl? I. Commissioner Zamaniden? I.

Commissioner Hinojosa? I. Vice President Ellis? Is absent? Ex officio member Howard Chan is absent

in President Smith? I. Thank you. The motion passes. Okay, we'll now proceed to the discussion

calendar. Item two on the discussion calendar highlights the city Treasurer's annual report and

funding recognition and we have staff from the city here to do a presentation.

Good morning, Chair and members of the committee. My name is John Colville. I'm the city treasurer.

We've been bestowed the honor of managing the money for the trust for this is my 25th,

21st year. So it's 20, 21 years I've been before you in a last change. I'm going to turn it over to

my chief investor, now it's your Stacy Huss. You actually run portfolio and gives you some highlights.

Thank you. Good morning. I would like to just make sure Barbara were you able to get the members the

package that I sent you for the October update yesterday? Okay, all right. So we'll start with going

over the June to June portfolio, which is in your agenda package and I just wanted to pull out a

couple high level numbers out of that report. So for the June to June period, the portfolio had a

9.08% return and looking at a blend that we've created to simulate the portfolio, which is always

changing. It's always going to be a portion in equities and a portion in fixed income. So right now

we're using that blend at 60% equities and 40% fixed income. So the return for that benchmark for the

year was 5.43%. So as I said, it's always going to fluctuate a little bit as assets change and we

try to keep an eye on it. When we first started this custom index, it was 7525. So over the last few

years, we've tried to update the benchmarks so that it more closely matches the portfolio.

So for the June to June fiscal year, I also wanted to point out that S&P had a 22% return,

whereas the pure bond portfolio had a 2.66% return. So the portfolio is always going to be between

those two extremes and all equity portfolio and all fixed income portfolio. So that's just

something to keep in the back of your mind. The portfolio does not aim to simulate the S&P 500,

but I just wanted to have you be aware that those are the two things that your portfolio should

always come in between. So then at this meeting, what we usually do is we always bring you up to date

for October returns. So for the month of October 2023 to October 2024, the portfolio had an annual

return of about 21%. And so that compares to that custom benchmark that I was speaking about,

which is also 21%. So we're right on track with where we want to be for those returns.

And just to bring it back to what I mentioned before, the pure equity S&P 500 for that term was 36%.

The pure bond portfolio for that term was 10%. So once again, your portfolio is right in between those two numbers.

In the handout, which Barbara hopefully we can get to them after the meeting, it was a PDF that was sent to update you guys.

Usually this meeting is held about the 10th to the 15th and we have a little more time,

but because this meeting was held so early in the month, it was hard to get data ending October 31.

So it was a really short time frame to get that information.

So some of the things I wanted to point out on the portfolio is that if the current

balance as of October 31 is just under $5 million. So this would be an all-time high for the portfolio.

Looking back over the years, John and Mr. Smith were talking earlier that when you started the annual

amount that they could expend was about $120,000. So this year we were able to raise it from 170 to 180.

So this is the first $10,000 increase year over year since 2021. We had been increasing it about 5,000

a year for the last few years. And the reason we've been able to do this, as I mentioned last year,

is it's a much higher interest rate environment. So we've been selectively taking positions,

putting them into bonds that will put income into the portfolio to give you more money to spend.

Currently the portfolio is generating about $200,000 a year. We don't like to put all that money

out there to spend because tomorrow one of the equities could decide they were going to cut their

dividend or eliminate their dividend and then all of a sudden you wouldn't have the income stream

that was projected. So we always like to keep a little bit of a buffer there, but the $180,000 again

is the highest that the commission's ever had to disperse. So we're really happy about that and

really happy about it approaching the $5 million total assets. And the last thing I just wanted to

mention was that the capital gains on the portfolio, which is something you'll see on the report,

will fluctuate year to year. Currently the portfolio has unrealized capital gains over 373,000.

And what that just means that if we were to turn around and liquidate the entire portfolio tomorrow,

you would see that's how much the current assets are worth versus what we purchased them at.

This fluctuates and we were not really active in the portfolio booking these gains,

but I think it's just a good long-term thing to look at that over the years how much the assets

have actually grown, especially some of the equity assets have been owned in the portfolio for

probably two decades. And as they've grown, sometimes the dividends have not kept pace,

and so if they're yielding a very low dividend, that's what we've been looking at to transfer

those over into some high-quality corporates, and that's what has allowed us to increase the

income on the portfolio. So when you do get your package, you'll see that there are a handful of

new corporate bonds that were added to the portfolio this year, and I've highlighted those when you

get that in blue so you can see exactly what types of names and what kind of yield we've been

adding to the portfolio last year. And with that, I'd be happy to take any questions.

I also want to note that since inception of the program, the commissions and your predecessors have

given out $6.6 million. So that's something we're proud of. Thank you.

Any commissioners have questions? Are there any speaker slips or questions from the public?

Thank you, President Smith. I have no speakers on the side of it. Okay. This is a

receiving file, so no vote is required. Now we move on to the meat of the meeting,

and that is the funding allocations. Is there a staff presentation?

So we'll be projecting the pre-meeting scores. I'm not sure. Some of you have been through this

many times. Some of you, this is your first time, but the way we determine the grants is we start

with each commissioner reviewing your application and attachments and assigning pre-meeting scores on

agreed-upon criteria. And so that's what you'll see on the screen. And then we'll follow that with

an opportunity for the commissioners to ask any questions, get any clarification that they need.

Sometimes the scores are just during that period. After that point, we'll take a break and come

back for the allocations. So I do want to let the commissioners know that I did a final check

of the attorney generals website yesterday because there were some that were looked to be pending,

but everyone is either current or exempt at this time. So we're all good to go.

I have a question. I saw some that expired on a DOJ.

They have the opportunity to correct until the meeting. Okay. And that's right.

Did the double check yesterday? Okay. So commissioners, we will be going down our list of scores.

We will, I will check to see if there are commissioners that have questions for a particular grant

application. And we'll just start at the beginning and work our way through. And then commissioners

can make whatever adjustments they'd like to make. And then we'll put the adjustments into

this spreadsheet by we, I mean Barbara. And then once the spreadsheet is complete, we'll begin

the process of determining the funding levels and where the cutoffs are for funding based on our

agreed upon process. Staff, can we please give the presentation up on the overhead projectors please?

Just a quick note. These are in and they're just an alphabetical order no order preference at this time.

Okay. Asian Community Center, ACC's senior services. Are there any commissioners and commissioners?

You have a printout of this sitting in front of you if you don't want to crane your neck back to look at it.

Oh, they don't. Oh, sorry. I can, but they need to.

Well, we can correct it when we get there. There is one correction that I'll need to let you know.

Thanks.

Do you think they could bring the lights up a little bit more? There, there's at least one old person up here

that needs brighter light to see the numbers. Next time. Thank you very much.

Need a little task lights or giant size paper either one. Okay. Are there any commissioners with

questions for ACC senior services? Okay. Are there commissioners with questions for the center for

employment opportunities? Okay. One moment, please. ACC senior services if you're here, can you raise your hand?

Thank you. Okay. Center for employment opportunities. If you're here, can you step up to the microphone, please? We have commissioners with questions.

Go ahead, commissioner Janice. Hi. Welcome. I have a question. You said you're going to serve 40 people, but how much is the cost per 40 people?

And then you have gift cards and you don't tell me what they're going to be for. Are they rewards cards? What's the purpose of the gift cards?

Used as, you know, to purchase food primarily. And in some cases, perhaps, you know, transportation.

Although we do supplement that with Uber and Lyft, Lyft rides as well. Okay. They're not restricted cards so they can't go gambling with it. No, not at all.

But they're not restricted when I'm asking. They're not. Okay. So they can do anything they want with it. Well, I'm sorry. They are restricted. Yes. Yeah. They would be definitely an absolute. So we maybe would purchase gift cards from like McDonald's or something.

Okay. That's what I wanted to know. And then you have what's the cost per person that you're you're expanding yet for nights, maximum for a person. And where's the place of this organization located?

So the organization is located on third street downtown for for for third street. And the cost per person, we approximate if you're talking about, you know, being able to put somebody up for a period of maybe four nights at like a motel six.

We're approximating somewhere between 200 and 250 dollars.

Thank you. That's what I need to know. I have a question for you. Your application says you serve people county wide.

We are only able to allocate for serving people in the city of California, a city of Sacramento here. And

can you clarify that for me? Right. So we have we have participants that who were justice impacted. Obviously, that do get released there either on probation or parole in various counties, but the counties that we are dealing with specifically would be Sacramento County.

Okay. But we can only allocate funds to serve people in the city of Sacramento. Okay. And that's fine. How do you how do you determine if

these funds are being used just for Sacramento city residents?

So we have a tracking system. So we also have a database in which we track the expenditures as well as the program services that are provided to the participants.

I have a question then.

To is it is it your database is it zip code driven? Yeah, we know exactly is in the city. We do you're serving that accounting person. Yes, ma'am. We do know.

Okay. And then I was not able to find a clear budget in your proposal.

So the budget that we propose was somewhere between 25 and 30,000. It's fairly low because we're only serving 40 people. And again, within that range, we're looking at providing supportive services that would include temporary housing.

While they're going through our program metrics, right? So this is not nothing long term is simply to serve as a bridge while they engage in the program and complete the program participants specifications.

Okay. I'm just looking in your application and I don't see I see your regular budget that I'm having an issue finding the budget that says this is the dollar amounts will use for these things.

In the LBH Memorial Fund.

Oh, if given the opportunity, I can certainly provide that for you at a later date. I don't know it's supposed to be in your application. Right. I don't have it.

So I see revenue. I see contributions, but I don't I don't see.

I'm trying to find. Yeah, that was the end of it. So this is supposed to be the budget.

Yeah.

You have it at $10,000 contribution from us, but you don't have specified what it's going to be spent for.

You have there's some discussion of how you're spending your money, but that's countywide. And so how do you spend your money that we allocate to you?

Right. So we have funding priorities and we have to rate you based on our funding priorities.

Right. So again, the expenditures of the funds if granted would be primarily to serve as a bridge. So we would be providing food and shelter with the max of about four days.

For participants as needed.

That doesn't you're not answering his question. That doesn't satisfy my question. I don't believe.

Because we ask you how many dollars or food transportation housing, whatever. And there's nowhere in here that I can find that says that $10,000 you give us. We're going to use to provide

that $10,000 for the future.

40 hotel nights and 300 meals. There's nothing in here that tells me that your what we give you is going to be meeting our grant priorities this year.

That's something to for the future to know that you need to be specific for all those listening. Be very specific. What once you have that.

Okay, so I think we're we've got our questions answered. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Okay. City of refuge.

I have a question.

There's one moment. Is there a representative from city of refuge here?

Okay, one of the requirements of us to grant funds to an organization is that they attend this meeting. So because they are not here, city of refuge will not be receiving any funds from our grant this year.

We can't find a pin that works. Sorry.

Okay.

EGE foundation. Is there someone here from EGE foundation?

Are there questions for EGE foundation?

I have a question for EGE foundation. I'm scrolling to your grant application.

I also have a question. Okay, why don't you go ahead? Wanda?

I understand that you're asking for a grant for educational material on gardening. That is correct. An environmental education. Yeah, that's not our priority. Our priorities food, shelter, and transportation.

You're asking for educational material. And then you have here you actually said our therapy and gardening.

And they're not meeting our three priorities. Part of that was for as far as regarding food access, so teaching children and youth about urban sustainability and agriculture and tying in the educational component.

And hopefully giving them the capabilities to sustain themselves and be able to produce their own food sources and just learning about what that system looks like in an inner city environment.

I understand your goal, but it doesn't match with the Ann Lambert and she'll okay, I just wanted to know that.

Okay, and I had my question was how long have you been in business?

So the organization we officially got our nonprofit just last year or well officially September 8th, 23. But the organization has been operating since roughly about 2021 officially.

But we've been in partnership with other organizations throughout Sacramento since about 2015 and actively producing smaller scale programs throughout the Oak Park and El Paso Heights communities.

Okay, thank you very much. I have a question. Sorry.

With the sort of educational session that you have with the youth, how long did these sessions last?

So they're typically ongoing. We aim for after school programs and we're actually next year starting off our summer programs to do a longer term activity, but it's usually during the school years. So spring and fall and as an after school program.

So roughly about two to three hours in the afternoon.

And in addition to providing that education, is there any food or anything else sort of provide or really just food provided to the students?

We do. Yeah, we aim to provide healthy snacks, usually locally sourced, sustainable things. We actually tie that into part of the education as far as where some of the food sources come from.

Just to really give them a full on experience.

And you're purchasing this food yourself. And so how much do you think you're spending on that sort of food expenditure with these?

I guess depending on the number of participants that we have, we budget maybe around 300 bucks per location per month.

So it's not big elaborate meals or anything, but just something to give them tastes and samples of different things that we are trying to show them through our education.

Okay. Okay. Are there other questions? Thank you. Your budget did not include any food.

That's what we're writing on. Okay. Commissioner Garbs?

Well, I was just, I think most of it has been answered, but I just want to confirm the teaching that you're doing. So you're teaching them how to plant and grow food are the kids eating any of that food that you are at the end.

Yes. Yes. You're doing that. Yes. So we, so some of the produce we haven't gotten much, but some of the produce that we've harvested. We actually prepare it with the youth in one of our kitchens in Oak Park. Okay. Okay. I thank you for what you're doing. Thanks.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Move on to first step housing. Is there a representative here from first step?

First step? Second call. Is there a representative for first step housing, DBA for step communities? Okay. They are not present, so they will not be considered for grant.

Okay.

The next organization is Josh's heart. Is there a representative here from Josh's heart? Okay. Are there people who on the commission who have questions for Josh's heart?

Okay. I have a question.

Go ahead. Okay. I understand you're going to do 100 clients with our money and you're going to get backpacks and winter coats.

But you're also said to me in the way I interpret it. You're giving to anybody who walks in and gets an ass for it. There's no, there's no qualifications. You're just going to give it to them if they ask for it.

Well, they don't have to like fill out anything to receive, but our clientele or people who are experiencing homelessness and addiction.

Well, how do you know that? We go out to places like Cesar Chavez Park. We find them on the streets or we've also had some people come to our events.

But it's most of the time when we are going out and seeing the homeless camps and areas of need.

But what I read was you have the event happening at Sacramento State.

That is our homeless connect. Yes, we did mention that because that's one of the things we do. But these we are requesting the grant for specifically our backpack drives, which is a little bit our homeless connect is once a year.

And it is held at Sac State.

But our backpack drive, which we are requesting the funds for is where we do multiple drives where we go winter and summer.

Few times each season and we go out and we deliver the backpacks to those in need in those areas.

But you have no database and no tracking.

To track if they're homeless or not, we usually go to the camps directly to pass out those backpacks.

But you don't have a name. You don't say I gave it to Joe Moe here and I gave it to Alice.

The numbers of the backpacks that go out to one individual. So if we give out 200 backpacks, that was 200 people, homeless, experiencing homelessness that we served.

Yeah, we don't we don't have names specific names or people. We just count how many we gather. We prepare and then we deliver and based on how much we have.

And it's in the city of Sacramento. Yes, but you don't know if they belong to the city of Sacramento.

I mean, we don't know where they're housed specifically, but if they're at that camp, then that's we deem them as Sacramento.

Thank you.

I have a question. Your your budget said that about 10% of the money we're requesting was going to actual food.

I just want to be sure that's correct.

Most yes, I have my little budget, but yes, we have about.

We have food cards that we were we want to be able to give out to the individuals, but because of the servicing up to 200 people per distribution, there's not a lot on those gift cards that can give in.

We have in the past were able to partner with people to get meals at like hot dogs and sandwiches. So something that's small. They're not big meals at all.

So that's why it's only 10% of the budget.

Okay. Is there a age group that you're targeting when you go out to deliver the backpacks or the food?

No, there is liberty and who is experiencing homelessness. So as sometimes it's youth in their teenage years, oftentimes it's adults.

Individuals and some with families.

What percentage do you think is youth?

It would not be the majority. Majority are individual male and female.

The youth are, I don't know the exact percentage right now, but it's not as common.

Okay. Thank you. Any other questions?

Can you give us an example of what's inside your backpacks?

Yes.

We have, sorry, playing it up.

We have basically in the backpacks we have a lot of first aid and hygiene needs.

We also have, like during winter, we also include like big puffy jackets to keep them warm.

We have also, you know, for people because some people do experience some addiction issues.

We have fentanyl that we partner with people to give fit. I mean, not fentanyl. Sorry. Narcan, I apologize.

Not to prevent that, I'm sorry. Narcan, strip and strip, I apologize.

And a lot of, yeah, hygiene first aid.

Things like that. We do provide some snacks like granola bars in the backpacks as well.

In addition to the food gift cards to like McDonald's, Taco Bell, things like that that they can easily access.

Yes. As well as the hygiene items of the toothbrushes, the toothpaste, the listerine, deodorant packs,

and within those food items, it's vitamins to help with them too because there's a connection between people who are experiencing homelessness

and those who have hallucinations. If they have low counts of those vitamins that, especially potassium, it worsens those symptoms.

So we make sure they have those vitamin packs and V8s and things like that to help them on the streets.

I have one more. Do you have partnerships with regards to where you source these different items or are you just purchasing them yourself with the funds that are allocated?

Oftentimes we get them in bulk with different partnerships or we even reach out to local businesses like Macy's, things like that for the jacket items.

And for the hygiene items sometimes we reach out to Dollar Tree that they have been really helpful for us and other businesses as well.

Do they donate them or do they just give you a discount?

Depending on what we're asking for, specifically if it's like a granola bar, even grocery outlet, we able to donate those.

But if it's for a jacket they will maybe discount it, not give us the whole thing donated.

We've also partnered with a company that also provides us with like small dental, like for like toothbrush little kits.

They'll provide some sometimes not a ton but we're basically, we mostly rely on the donations from supporters and then we purchase them.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Love is the answer mission ministries. Is there someone here?

Okay. Does anybody have a question for them?

If you can come up I have a question or two.

Thank you for being here.

Your budget includes $2,000 for it says food distribution.

Is that actual food or is it your costs for distributing the food?

Can you clarify that for me?

We purchased the items to distribute during the food distribution.

Yes, we do not cook the food, we provide them with like groceries.

Okay. So it's actual, you're actual providing them food, you're not spending $2,000 paying for gas to deliver food.

Okay. And then it appears you have some rent assistance as well, about $8,000 in rent assistance requested.

Do you have any other services that go along with that rent assistance that you provide to your people that you serve?

The rent assistance, I try to, I'm not sure if this is what you're asking, but I try to encourage them how to,

that their rent should be their priority. They should put that first so that they add a little things like what they need.

They may be able to get it from an organization or somewhere else, but their housing is very important.

That should be their first priority.

Okay. So no actual like counseling services, job search services.

We offer, if they call for jobs, I have connections where I also refer them to the jobs.

Okay. Are there any other questions for them?

Yes, I do. You said you're going to only serve 10 people, is that correct?

And your application, I only read 10 persons, over that $10,000.

Is that for the family?

You said 10 people, I'm not sure, I wrote it down 10 people.

Okay. So I'm not sure if I put 10 people or 10 families, because I don't have the application in front of me, but for rental assistance, I notice that the grant we do get, my organization get from here, is too small to help a lot of families.

So we help those who we can. So like the past grant, we were able to help three families, three different families with their rent.

And then I didn't find any other source of income, other than an online, birthday, and show Memorial Fund.

Yes, we sort other grants to help us with what we are doing.

And then you're seeking, but do you have any other resources?

Right now, besides endless, so the $10,000 is our, we're the sole provider.

No.

No, who else?

We have donations coming into organization from different people.

And then also we write other grants so that we can have more money to help people who need rent.

Because right now we realize that rent is the hardest thing for people.

Okay, I'm asking you, who are the other grants that are supporting you for the same services?

Okay, the other grant comes from the EFSA.

They are.

That's from, oh gosh, I can't remember the name.

But we send in that grant to, that's the short name.

If I can't think of the name right off hand.

Okay.

How much they gave us?

It's a big organization from the federal government.

They service the, the money for the federal government.

Okay.

So right now you have no other faith, 40, faith, 40 and 41.

That's how they call them.

Okay.

But it's from the government.

I'm trying to clarify that right now currently you only have the, you're asking $10,000 from Ann Lamp, Bertha Hinchal grant.

And you have no others right now.

You applied but you haven't got anything back.

Yes, we already got.

So we're the only sole source.

That's rent this year as well.

That's what I wanted to clarify.

I think we are the only source source.

So sustainability to me is an issue here.

In the year of staff experience, I didn't get any information from that in your application.

So who are the staff and how many years of experience do they have?

Okay. Please ask that again.

How many staff do you have in your organization and how many years of experience do they have doing this job?

Okay. So we have three main staff in our organization plus volunteers.

And also we became official an organization in 2017.

But before that, we were doing it under our church umbrella.

And we were still helping people at that time.

So we have us many years of service.

Thank you.

Commissioner Hanna, what's it?

Yeah, I just wanted to clarify just as I was listening to you speak that their application does say 10 households.

So I don't know if that you know.

Households.

Yeah.

And then also it sounded like you did say you have already received funding from other sources.

You've already received funding from other sources besides Anne Land.

Ron, yes.

Okay.

For our full edition rent.

Thank you.

Okay. Thank you very much.

We'll move on.

The next is meals on wheels by ACC.

Is there someone here?

Okay.

Does anyone have any questions for meals on wheels by ACC?

You guys have that grant writing thing down very well.

Thank you.

Is there a representative here from my sister's house?

Okay.

No one's here from my sister's house.

So their grant cannot be.

Your application cannot be funded.

Next move Sacramento homeless services.

Okay.

Does anyone have questions for next move?

Okay.

Thank you for being here.

Wait.

I did find there was an audit deficiency.

And we have someone from next move come forward please.

Just wanted to know I actually do read every word.

I read in here that you had an audit deficiency internal control in your audit report.

So we the audit audits all of our programs.

So we were audited on our permanent support of housing programs.

And how to do with the rent reason will this piece.

I'm sorry.

How to do with the rent reasonable piece for the permanent support of housing programs.

Rent.

Rent reason will this.

Or we bear if I weather a unit reasonable based on their rent or not.

Yes.

Just before audited something like that and there I quoted.

I just quoted to remind myself.

Yes.

So we are working on making sure that we fix that for next audit.

It's an ongoing process whenever we're renting properties to our clients.

Is that directly impact what we're funding?

So funding for this time is for Snacks and Frances Hall Center.

Any other questions?

Thank you very much.

The next grant application we have is from Peach Tree Health.

Is there someone here from Peach Tree Health?

Second call.

Is there someone here from Peach Tree Health?

Okay.

Another one we will not be funding.

For those of you that are here, that's not bad news.

Okay.

The Reimagine Macrode Foundation.

Very good.

Is there anyone with questions for a Reimagine Macrode Foundation?

Okay.

Could we have the representative come up please?

Hi.

Hi.

Good morning.

I read that audit report and it said that the audit didn't include cash flow.

Say that one more time.

The audit report said audit didn't include cash flow and it made that exemption on your audit report.

I would imagine that because I don't conduct the audits, that that would be something related to our exempt status or being a nonprofit that we don't...

I mean we have cash in cash out.

We monitor all our income, our expenses.

Yeah.

I know you do that, but I'm just saying sorry.

Are you getting cash?

It's not being included in the audit.

So how much cash are you talking about?

We don't receive like a cash...

We don't receive cash in that way.

We have grants.

We do have donations that may come in periodically during big day of giving or something like that.

But mostly we are grant driven and I write the grants.

I know you do good work.

Thank you.

I'm just not an accountant so I don't understand the...

I read that on the question.

I will talk to our accountant and ask him what exactly does that mean.

All right.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Any other questions for them?

All right.

We're preparing the breach neighborhood project.

Okay.

Are there questions for repairing the breach?

I do have one question if you could come up.

Thank you for being here.

Thank you.

Your... in your application you mentioned that you serve Sacramento County because we're restricted to providing funds for serving people in the city of Sacramento.

Can you clarify how you ensure that our funds are being used for what they're designated for?

Yes. We have an application that everyone feels out with their addresses, zip codes.

And we check those to make sure that they're in the area before we give them that portion.

Okay.

Thank you.

In the future you might want to just be sure you show us in the application clearly where that...

So we know where the money is going.

Okay.

Thank you very much for being here.

Anything else for repairing the breach?

All right. We'll move on to the Sacramento Food Bank and Family Services. Is there a representative here?

Sacramento Food Bank?

Wow. Okay.

All right.

The Sacramento LGBT Community Center. Is there a representative here?

Thank you. Are there any people who have questions for them?

Okay. Thank you very much.

Oh wait.

I do. I just have to look it up in my phone.

I'm on it.

And I wanted to know that the staff number of your experience, they didn't mention that in the application.

Make note of that in the future.

I want to know your experience your staff has.

Or the organization or the Q spot.

Yes.

Which is the program.

The fund is going to go to.

It's for your organization.

The whole organization.

Yes.

I want to know the staff.

Yeah.

Thank you very much.

It's been around for.

I think it's something like 45 years.

Yeah.

As a non-profit.

You know it was missing in your application.

The years of experience your staff has.

Oh. Was that right.

So for the future.

Thank you so much.

I know you guys do good work.

Thank you.

Okay.

Sacramento Regional just.

Okay.

Is there someone here?

Okay. Thank you.

I didn't see you over there.

Okay. Are there commissioners with questions for regional justice family center?

Okay. The next application.

Thank you very much for being here.

Is from St. John's program for real change?

Is there representative here from St. John's?

Do any commissioners have questions for St. John's?

Okay. Thank you very much for being here.

The next one is one moment, please.

Sierra Services project.

Okay.

Can you can one or both of you come forward, please?

Yes, yes, we can.

I saw two hands raised.

I wasn't going to choose who I wanted.

That's all right.

My laptop died.

Okay. Are there other commissioners with questions for Sierra Service project?

Yeah. Commissioner Yannis?

Yes, I see you want food, transportation, social services.

Where do you serve?

It's the city of Sacramento.

Our programs will be taking place within the city of Sacramento for different homeless encampments within the city.

Okay. And then I can find the assessment or the count.

How are you going to do that?

We'll count day of during the events to know how many people we serve through meal distribution, how many of them use the shower service, how many of them use the closed closet.

So you're collecting data? That's what I want to know.

We keep counting.

Okay. And then you said you had one partner, Save Harper.

Is that correct?

There were one of many partners.

So they piloted the model of this cleanup food meal day.

So we've partnered with them for many programs including building, transitional housing shelters, installing community gardens.

So this is to reiterate that model that was a big success this year.

Okay. Thank you.

Thank you all.

I have one more question.

It looks like about 20% of the money requesting goes to food.

Is that true?

Yeah. That's direct food costs for the food we will be preparing and serving during our community cleanup events.

Okay. So 80% is not food. It's other supplies and that sort of.

Yes.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Oh, wait. We have a question.

Who is speaking over here?

Well, just thank you for being here.

So many of not are not here.

That when we constantly are asking everybody, you can see the theme of the questions that are being raised.

Are you providing food?

What are the other services?

We have to look at what our funding priorities are.

And so we're looking here and we're seeing like marketing materials.

Right. And so we have to be very careful.

Is that that's not food shelter transportation.

So so 20% is going to food.

The two of the so $2,000.

And then a shower trailer.

Yes.

Okay. Bike clinic.

Yeah.

So we're going to be able to fix and fix bikes.

A little bit of both.

So we partner with Saba and community shop class to help repair people's bikes.

So they have better access to transportation and can keep them out of our landfills and waste stream.

Okay. Okay.

All right. I just want to be very clear on that.

And not only for you, but for everybody else.

Yeah. That's a program they've offered for a long time.

And because we know a lot of people are transportation insecure.

So I hope to keep them moving.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

We'll wait. Commissioner Hennahosa.

Sorry.

I just was wondering if you could very quickly talk to me through your intake process.

And somebody seeks out your services.

So we don't have a lot of barriers for entry for these events because we do them in close proximity to homeless encampments.

So we're not just hiring people to provide names or age or demographics because we're also not doing like clinical service work.

We have other organizations who do case management who come out and support these events.

So I can't really speak to their processes.

But our goal is to help feed people, help them be trained, have access to transportation and be able to provide them opportunity to get clean and have clean clothes.

And we're going to put a lot of barriers around that.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right. Thank you. Now you.

Now yes. Thank you.

Okay. Self-segmental interfaith partnership.

Is there a representative here?

Okay. Is there are there any commissioners who have questions for self-segmental interfaith partnership?

I have no access to the business tax exemption.

So can anybody confirm that you have it?

It was a link and went to link and says not found.

Well, there were there was a are you talking about the registry?

It says no access. You had an email with the link that says here's the business tax exemption letter.

Oh.

I think I could not go any further.

Oh, I was not.

So I wanted to Barbara were you successful to actually see it?

Thank you.

Did get the message, the response email that it was complete.

It was, yeah, tax exemption.

That email right there.

Click on that blue.

It's there. It's in the package.

I was looking at the blue link.

You know, and I couldn't get to it.

I didn't go further.

So I was looking at the blue link.

I was looking at the blue link.

It was physically in the package.

Thank you. That's what I wanted to know.

Okay.

Okay.

The next applicant is Garden Family Care Community Center Incorporated.

Is there a representative here?

Oh.

It was in.

What's that?

I know.

I'm starting to doubt myself.

I know.

We make it very clear in our application that you have to be here.

So for these people that aren't here, they're done.

Okay. The next application is from Weve Incorporated.

Is there a representative here?

Okay. Are there any questions for the representative from Weve?

Okay. It appears there are none.

Thank you very much for being here.

The next applicant is Well Spring Women's Center.

Is there a representative here from Well Spring?

Okay. Sorry.

Are there any commissioners who have questions for Well Spring?

Okay. Hearing none.

Thank you very much for being here.

We'll move on to the next one.

When Youth Services is there a representative here?

Thank you for being here.

Are there any commissioners who have questions for When Youth Services?

I do.

Please.

Thank you.

Hi. Good morning.

Thank you for being here.

I appreciate you.

I wanted to know the DOJ letter of charity.

It was pending.

Right. We...

I got an email from Brian Vargas this morning.

He said we were current.

I was just commenting that it's...

Everything's been turned in in advance of the deadlines.

From the RRF ones to the audit to...

Every piece of documentation.

We went there in person last week.

We've emailed them. We've called them.

We've physically dropped everything off.

No deadlines have been missed.

We are unable to.

But...

The DOJ has not responded to you yet.

It's still pending.

But we don't even know why.

Everything is current on our end.

But their website does say current pending.

It's a strange pending.

That's right.

It says current.

We've verified that as long as it says current, we're good.

We're good. Okay. Thank you.

That was it.

Thank you for being here.

Thanks for having us.

Okay.

Women's Civic Improvement Club.

Is there a representative here?

Thanks.

You don't need to step up just yet.

Are there people who have questions for women's civic improvement club?

Actually, I have a question.

So if you could come up, I'm sorry.

I didn't look at my note before I called your name.

Good morning.

Good morning.

I found your description of the number of people that you'll be serving

a little and clear.

Can you clarify for us the number of people you'll be serving?

I think we put 50 to 100 in the application.

Five to 50.

That's quite a, quite a span.

How many of, I know you, we've been granting you for quite a number of years.

Can you tell me how many you served in the past year?

It varies.

Our applicants, we offer them the choice of three areas to receive assistance, food, assistance with their rent, and assistance with their utilities.

So we don't know what the client is going to need with their priorities.

So it's hard to say ahead of time what their request is going to be.

Okay. Thank you very much.

I have a question.

I want clarification.

Are you serving the seniors correct?

Yes, this is senior program.

This is senior program.

Yes.

In total, no matter regardless of which services they want, how many are you serving for the, for the Anne-Lan?

For the Anne-Lan? How many?

I think it's still 25 to 50 people.

Yes.

Yes.

I think you're the only one that serves specifically seniors.

Yes.

Okay. Thank you.

Yes.

Except ACC does.

Yes. I know.

But they're winning the other side.

She's here in Central City.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So we have a representative here from women's empowerment.

Women's empowerment.

If you're here, please raise your hand.

It's a system.

Okay.

All right.

We can't consider their grant application.

The next organization that applied is a Yantzi Outreach.

Is there a representative here from Yantzi Outreach?

Okay.

Well, not okay.

I don't know what's going on.

YMCA of Superior California?

Hi there.

I know there are questions because I have one.

So if you could step up to the microphone, please.

Okay.

So do you happen to have a copy of your application with you?

I have the application on the budget.

Okay.

I didn't see items specified for our money in your budget.

Yes.

I'm not sure.

This hearing has been, or this session has been really informative for me as an applicant to understand what it is you're looking for.

So I made a note here.

Over the course of the summer, for the children enrolled in the camp, we will spend about $2,000 on food and $5,000 on transportation.

Transportation is taking them from a point A to point B to the campsites.

Okay.

Thank you for clarifying that.

So we all had questions about that.

It's not transportation as in like getting them to doctors appointments or to the campsites.

No, this is just specific to the camp.

It's giving them a ride out to the camp.

Right. So are you picking them up at home and then taking them or do they?

No, at the shelter.

We operate this in partnership with St. John's Program for Real Change.

So my interpretation of your grant guidelines was that this was wraparound services for unhoused people.

And so the transportation is camp-related transportation.

So I'm not 100% sure.

Honestly, I'm going to look at my St. John's calling back there.

Whether we are providing the transportation to them from camp, but it's also field trips.

And we provide swimming lessons for the children.

And so to the pool for swimming lessons.

But the point is that you are picking them up at St. John's and you're taking them to wherever they need to go for this purpose.

Yes.

And so the money is paying for the gas and the equipment of the vehicle or what have you.

Yeah. Rented buses.

Okay. Oh, you're renting, but okay.

Renting buses or contracting buses.

So it's under transportation and then the $2,000.

So that's $4,000 and then $2,000.

It was a total of $6,000, right?

Yeah. 5,000 for transportation and $2,000 for food.

I have down that your request is for $6,000.

It's for in two.

Okay. All right.

Sorry. Okay.

I guess I don't have the budget for food.

Yeah. Okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

My interpretation is this is recreational activity for the children, not necessarily wraparound service.

If they're going on field trips and they're going to day camp.

Yes. Although we don't interpret, we don't consider it recreation.

We're looking to prevent summer learning loss.

We're looking to prevent the summer learning loss.

We're looking to prevent the summer learning loss.

And so that's a place for the kids to go during the summer so that their moms can continue their path towards self-sufficiency.

So while school is out of session, the children need somewhere to go so that the moms can continue their workforce training, their personal therapy counseling, whatever, whatever their path towards self-sufficiency is.

They need time during the day to do that.

And so we're providing a safe place for the kids to go.

Yeah, but the kids are already safe in St. John's.

They are.

They are. This is extra-collicar activity.

It's not anything to do with, you know, psychology or any therapy with the social worker.

No, but it is educational enrichment.

Yeah, but that's not a priority.

I just want you to know food, shelter, transportation.

Yeah, no, I understand that.

That's why I said this.

This has been enlightening for me to understand what your priorities are.

But like I said, we are providing the service to the children so that their mothers can continue their path.

Thank you.

I think the really good part with what you're doing also is not just for the mothers giving them time back to do these things that they need to do to get back on their feet, but really just to give the kids a break and to get them out of that environment that they're probably don't want to be in, you know, at their age and just giving them a little sense of just

normalcy.

So I think that's great. The challenge I have is really just for the gas costs or things like that.

If it was primarily food during the sort of the camping size or these different trips that you're taking, I think that would be much more feasible for us to find, but just transportation expenses of gas and specifically renting the bus is that's pretty hard for us to try to find.

I just did anything else?

No, thank you.

Thank you very much for being here.

Thank you.

Okay, that concludes our review of the applications.

At this point, commissioners will be providing to the city staff the updates to the scores.

If they have updates based on the answers that you have provided today, she'll update the large spreadsheet and then

remove the people who did not show up today.

And then we will make determinations on the funding levels that we're going to grant.

Yes.

I have a question.

Just because we're talking about the number of people that did not show up today.

And so Barbara, do you send out an email to everybody saying that the meeting is coming up or how did you all know?

I don't remind your email.

I was wondering about that.

So how did you all know to show up today?

I mean, it was just on your calendar.

It's in the grant application when they submit it.

They have to sign.

They understand they have to be here on the guidelines online.

No, I understand in the guidelines in the calendar, but I mean, basically showing up today, it's just that you had it on your calendar.

There was no, there's no reminder email that we send out.

Right.

Got it.

Thank you.

We're all adults.

That's consistent with how we've done it.

It's a very high proportion of people not showing up.

This is my sixth year, and this is the first time I've ever seen this many.

So I'm just confused as to why this year there were so many.

Could this possibly be with the update of the sort of structure of the meeting that we're having now

within a very meeting being cut shorter and them not having to speak.

Could that have led to the assumption that they don't have to be here?

I don't think so because they didn't have to speak last year either.

I do think we've very clearly says that you have to be here and it says that we'll only call you up if we have questions.

So I think the guidelines we've been really clear.

Anyway, but this is this is a discussion for our first meeting next year about how to make things better.

Today we have to focus on funding.

I think we should we it just doesn't seem like in and only for all these different organizations not to show up.

Could there been any sort of communication that might have they might have been misinterpreted?

I did not send out any new tool or any sort of cases.

We did have a very high number of new first time applicants.

So.

Good.

Thank you.

Again, this is not.

I agree, but this is not what this meeting is about for people that show up.

We have to determine how much money they're going to get and we can discuss our process at our February meeting or late January, whatever it is.

Our first meeting of next year.

So let me go back to what I was explaining.

The commissioners will provide to the city staff any updates they have on on their scores.

Once those scores are updated, the final scores will be put into our funding matrix, which will allow us to determine who gets how much of the grant money they have requested.

So we're going to break for 15 minutes.

Well, we do that and then we'll reconvene and at that time we'll go through the next step, which is adjusting our funding percentages based on the amount available and the number of grant applications we have.

So we'll take a 15 minute break now and we will reconvene at 11.35.

So you guys are free to live video stream.

Thank you for all coming back.

I'm going to get there.

Sorry.

Okay.

Okay. We are live. Thank you.

Because of the number of people that didn't show up, which is we did the exact same notification processes we've done every year.

I just want to one more time go through the list of people that didn't show up and be sure there's nobody here that just didn't hear me or that was in the bathroom when their name was called or something like that.

So we're going to have a city of refuge.

Is there anyone here?

First step housing.

Oh, you are here.

Okay. Come on up.

Thank you.

We're commissioners with questions.

We've got to go back through our pages and see if we have commissioners with questions.

Any questions for them?

I'm glad you made it. You're a long time and grantee.

I'm glad you're here. Thank you very much. That's all we need.

We have a question.

Do you hear it earlier?

Does it matter?

Well, it does because I wanted to know. Did you know your mandatory to be here to get the grant?

I am aware we're mandatory to be here.

To get the grant.

We did. I did show up late.

Okay.

Just.

And first step communities sincerely apologize for that.

We did not get this on our calendar and did not receive any communication from the commission regarding this date.

Okay.

Then I want to clarify that it's in the application when you first apply.

Yes. I understand that now. Absolutely.

All right. Thank you for allowing us to be here.

Appreciate it.

My sister's house.

Peach tree health.

Sacramento Food Bank and Family Services.

The Gardens Family Community Center.

Women's Empowerment.

Yancy outreach.

Okay. We're still on the agenda item.

We will allow the first step communities scores.

If there's any members of the commission who want to review or change their scores.

Okay.

Chair, my apologies for the interruption.

As sorry, per councilor's procedure, chapter eight, section D6.

City established legislative bodies.

I'm going to ask for a motion after two hours and like, unless extended for an additional hour by two thirds vote of members present.

So at this time, I'll need to ask for a motion to extend the meeting past 12 p.m.

For an additional hour.

Is there a motion?

I move to extend one hour.

I'll second.

Thank you.

I'll call the roll.

Thank you, President Smith.

I'll now do the roll call vote.

Commissioner Corbs.

I here.

I.

Commissioner Yanes.

I.

Commissioner Beckman.

I.

Commissioner Ruh.

I.

Commissioner Zamaniden.

I.

Commissioner Inosah.

I.

Vice President Ellis's absence.

Ex officio member Howard Chan is absence and president Smith.

Thank you.

I.

Thank you.

The motion passes and the meeting will be extended an additional hour.

Thank you.

That doesn't mean we have to take another hour.

It means we are.

We can if we need it.

Okay.

Let me just check with the staff.

Thank you.

Okay.

Commissioners, we have, if we can come back to order, please.

We have scores ranging from 671.

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We have a number of 6.

We have a number of 7.

We have a number of 8.

Our number of1 less than 10.

We have a number of 11 there there that are

written in document and totals.

We have a number of left numbers here...

because we have a number of skipped and

totals...

I'm good.

Can you erase the body one for us?

I just want to hide that.

I'm sorry.

The total.

I'm going to get it.

I'm going to do it.

Okay, commissioners, we have scores of 671 down to 32.

We typically, historically, have not funded organizations with very low scores.

There's a total number of points available of 99 times 7.

That's a total.

That's a possible number.

Yes.

You're meeting C for 180.

What was it?

How many?

How many?

What's the maximum score?

There's 11.

11 times 9.

So, 693 is the maximum score possible.

We have scores that go from 671 down to 322.

Regardless of how much money that we have, we have never funded organizations that received extremely low scores, like in the low 400s or 300s.

So, before we go any farther, are there commissioners that would like to speak to that issue?

May I rise for point of clarification?

We do have scores of 10 on here.

So, would the total score then be 700?

Or?

It's 11 times 9.

Well, you know, we have 10s.

Yeah, we do have scores of 10 on some categories.

It's only 0 through 9.

If we have 10s, that's a type of them.

Can you point me to where we have 10s?

Oh, yeah.

Should I change those to 9?

Yeah, we need to change those to 9.

That was accidental.

Yeah, we have a maximum of 10.

Thank you for pointing that out.

I hadn't noticed that.

Okay.

So,

we have a couple of commissioners that would like to offer their opinion on where we should have a cutoff.

Can you, can you remind us so what's the,

what's the, how many are there, there's 20 now?

And so, what would we normally, I'm sorry, I can't remember, is it usually the,

the bottom, what, four?

Last year it was three, I believe, that we did not fund.

But it seems this year we have, we have organizations,

three, well, we have, we have low scores below 500.

And we could choose to have a cutoff wherever we want at this point.

Because there were so many no-shows, we have a smaller number of organizations that we need to consider their request.

But I also think that we should take care not to fund organizations that are way outside our,

our usual funding priorities.

And we have some, we have some with very low scores because they're so far outside our funding priorities.

So the commission just needs to set a cutoff.

Yeah, I think there's a lot of great organizations here, even the ones that scored low,

you know, there's portions of what they do that, that do align with our funding priorities,

you know, whether that's providing food or, you know, the transportation was a little tough,

but primarily the food portion of it, I think, because we have the budget for it and, you know,

to provide food for the, to provide food for the city of Sacramento,

if we have the money for it because these other organizations are to show up,

if we can give them a small fraction of what they're asking for and put that back towards the community,

I think that's the right way of doing it.

So I would, I would like a minimum score of 300,

just so we have some sort of funding, even for the lowest organization,

what they're asking, like for the EGE, I think, I think she had mentioned it was about two to 300 bucks or so

on a monthly basis that they spend on food.

So I just multiply that by 12, so around 3600 bucks on the high end of what they spend towards food.

So if we're funding that point for that level 20 or 30%, I think that's a fair amount,

and they can use that to proceed to give back to the community.

That's my suggestion.

And I agree, they've come here, they've showed up.

Is your microphone on?

It should be.

Okay, can you get closer? I can't, I couldn't hear you.

But I agree that people have come out of their way and have showed up,

and hopefully this, when we say this every single year,

that hopefully the ones that are on the low end of the list here have learned what our funding priorities are,

and that next year you will come prepared, that the money that you are asking for is the money is going to go to food shelter transportation,

and you learn that, and you start having other things in there, use other grants for that.

And so I completely agree that everybody that showed up today should get some form of funding 100%.

And again, that's really because as long as it aligns with some part of what we're funding,

which is, you know, even with the YMCA, right, it's the portion of it was for food, EGE,

portion of it for food. I think in that situation it's okay if we have the ability to fund them to give a small portion of what they're asking for.

Mr. Janis?

Okay, I'm going to be done while I disagree.

I'm the oldest here, I'm just my last meeting, I have 13 years with this grant.

And we purposely have those three missions, those three purposes, the shelter, the food,

and all of a sudden they were now elocid.

Transportation, their grant doesn't say those things.

That's why they have the low scores. And just because you have compassion, you show empathy,

that's not what we hear for the Anland City. Anland gave us instructions, we are at the steward.

And even though you're going to give that maybe a 6,000, 2,000 is food,

you have to put in your application, it's going to be 2,000 for food.

Not the transportation, not for the gas, because you know what, if they spin it on gas, we cannot complain about it.

We have no enforcement because that's the grant was submitted.

So you cannot adjust it because of empathy, you have to follow the rules, the regiment rules that we have.

So I say no, do not do that because that's going to skew and give president to the future meetings.

And just because we have the money, I mean some of these stellar cherry over essentials that did not show up, it breaks my heart.

It breaks my heart because they serve our community the way and bequeathed to the city and in Bertha,

the potential who bequeathed to the city. So we have to follow their instruction because that's what they gave their funding for to the city.

And I understand and I know you have a gentle heart, but we have to follow the rules of what the benefactor gave us to follow by.

Okay, that's my speech.

Commissioner Hennepinosa.

Yeah, I definitely see both sides. I think first what would be important was to see the ones who are above a certain standard, you know, kind of what's left over after that and possibly are we able to make a decision at that point on what.

Yeah, because I mean if we go over our funding, giving everybody top priority, then we can determine what to do with the bottom ones after that.

The reason that if I can respond the reason I'm having this discussion is because we we historically give lower amounts to people who are less in line with our funding priorities.

If because of dropouts, we reward those people extra this year, just because they were here.

We're not following the guidelines we set for ourselves to focus on housing with wraparound services and transportation and food.

Those are our three priorities. So my personal opinion is if they don't meet the priorities or they have an extremely low score,

then I'm not sure we should fund them at all, even if we have the money. Whatever we if we don't allocate all of our money this year, then we can fully allocate the people who scored higher.

My opinion is that's what we should be doing, but I'm one person on the commission.

So are there other commissioners that want to speak?

I have additional comments though, but there's not one charity up there that that what was mentioned earlier, every single one of these even down to the bottom there.

There's some portion of that that is either food. I think every single one of them. It might be a small portion, but a portion of it is food.

So for EGE foundation had no food in their application. I think that was it.

Now they answered questions here today that made it sound like there is some food included in those.

And what they give the backpacks. I apologize.

No, EGE was the.

Teaching about gardening and.

No, no, no.

Oh, no, she said that she purchased food for the kids while they're at their event.

There is no mention of it in their.

And there until she mentioned it here. I don't I don't think it's on the budget that they have laid out, but it is mentioned in their description of what they're providing.

Right, but they are they have to give us a budget how they're going to spend our money. None of it was listed as food.

Well, I've shared how I.

Okay.

How I would vote. So other commissioners that would like to speak.

Right. I guess. Yeah. I guess I'm in line with what Karen and Yusuf have indicated that yes, while some of the organizations perhaps didn't highlight those aspects that are directly aligned with the objectives of the grant.

They do have components that do align.

And so we I don't think we should necessarily fully strike them from being eligible for receiving some level of funding.

But certainly they don't necessarily align as closely as some of the other organizations. And so again, I think maybe a partial.

Grant would be.

Is there a recommendation from a member of the commission? I recommend it.

I want to make a motion. I'd make a motion to have the minimum be 300.

The minimum score to be 300. Right. That's the reason.

So that way they still get something, but it's a small fraction because it will will wait it out based on percentages.

Is there a second for that motion?

I second that.

What about if I have another motion? You can't once there's a motion on the table. We have to dispense with it either pass it or not pass it.

How about modifying it? Okay. I'm offering to modify.

I recommend a modification to the motion. I'm asking for a modification to remove the last three.

I don't know. I'm not.

Is there a second for the amendment?

So this would be a substitute motion. It sounds like.

If substitute. Yes, a substitute motion. If the original.

Motion or does not accept that the any kind of amendment to his motion, then yours would be a substitute motion.

So if the motion would we would take the substitute motion first.

If that fails, then take the.

Yeah.

Okay. Is there a second for the substitute motion?

Okay. The motion dies for lack of second.

Is there a substitute motion or discussion from the commission?

We for the record we don't have. We didn't get any speaker slips from public comments on this item.

Okay. Okay. Thank you.

Can I clarify the who made the motion and who seconded the original motion?

I made the motion and.

Orbs.

Okay.

So I will do a roll call to do a roll call vote.

Thank you, President Smith, Commissioner Corbs.

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Commissioner Yinez.

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Commissioner Beckman.

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Commissioner Zamaniden.

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Commissioner Yinez.

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Ex officio member Howard Chan is absent and president Smith.

No.

Thank you.

One moment.

The motion fails as the motion needs six.

Six members to pass past the motion and we had five members.

Yes on the motion.

Okay. Would someone else on the commission like to make a motion?

Another motion different from the last one that just failed?

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What would it take to outside of just not funding at all the bottom?

You know, few or even any of them.

Is there any other sort of percentage limitations that we could put on it?

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That's not going directly to the three top priorities.

for the staff. So we can't modify what they ask for. We can only grant a percentage of

what they ask for. So we can do the broad enough. We can just call it 20% just to be safe.

That would be, that would be even less than that. Right. That would be even less than that.

I think they at least get, you know, a portion of what they're asking for. And I say 20

intentionally because if we do 30 or anything above that, then EG would get more than

probably what the cost of actual food is for their expenses. So if we do 30% for all the

bottom ones, then that might be an excess of what they actually use for food.

Do we have a motion on the table? Yes, that was my note. No. We don't have a motion on the

table. Last year you changed the percentages. So I make a motion that we fund those that

are under 550%. Well, so I think they're tiered to where it's what, like four or five organizations

get 100% and then there's like a tier system. And then I think we can modify it more so on

the bottom part of it. If we want to fund not 50% of it, but more so, you know, in the

last four or five organizations, we can modify that a bit. That's typically what's been.

I believe that President Smith was talking about setting a limit. I mean, I'm wondering if

we should be thinking about scoring and those that are under a certain, you know, number,

right, as a criteria, because we could be here all day, parsing this out. You're saying

under 500 under 500 under or under 500 score that were their total scores under 500 and

fund them at 50% and fund them at 50%. That's that's my motion. The challenge with that is

that for I don't know if we can put EG even in a different category because then that would

be an excess of what the food cost would be for that organization. So we have a motion on

the table. So we either need to get a second or have it die before we have a discussion.

Is there a second for the motion that's on the table? Can I modify that just the last

organization? Because I think if we do 50% what was the cost now? So see that that's hard

because the way it's done. So YMCA and EGE 50% would be an excess of their food costs.

So that's 50 and 500 and then 20 at 450. Right? So 450, you get 20% at 500 and you get

so we can work with that.

YMCA also had transportation. Right, but that transportation was fuel costs and expenses

of maybe maintenance on the vehicle. Or actually no, I'm sorry, those were

not the right ones. It wasn't directly. Yeah, I think that's a good suggestion.

I would maybe before I do the actual subsidy motion, I think maybe doing 450 and below at 20%.

Was that would that be okay? Would everybody? I can modify that to 10%.

I should have set 30. We have competing motions on the floor. We need to do one at a time.

We have the first motion which was to do everything below 500 at 50% is there a second

for that? A little 550%. Okay, that motion dies. Now would somebody like to make a substitute?

Another motion? I'll make a substitute to. It would be sorry, it's not a substitute

motion. It would be a new motion motion. Okay, well, I guess I'll make an

motion. The score is below 450. Be funded at a 20% rate. And everything else funded?

Just to be clear, the bottom two at three. Bottom three. Bottom three, I'm sorry, at 50%.

20%. 20%. I know, almost capable. The next two at 50% and then above that, based on what's available.

To be discussed. Yeah, above that, I thought we had the chart of 100% and then the next year goes to

right. So I think we can use that for above. If we do this, we'll have money to fund everyone else

at 100%. Okay. That's it. Should that be included in the motion then?

I think that's probably one motion. The city attorney wants to address that.

You could do that as one motion. We have to. I just want to settle that one part first and then

we can talk about the rest. You don't have to do it as one motion if you don't want to.

And I'll do the second motion. Just the motion is just at least for the bottom three, but that's

below 450. Fund at 20%. And then we can talk about the rest of it after that's approved. So 20%.

Is there a second? Okay. Commissioner Corp. Seconds.

Okay. Call the roll, please. Thank you, President Smith. Commissioner Corp's.

I. Nay. Commissioner Yanas.

Nay. Commissioner Beckman. I. Commissioner Rul. I.

Commissioner Zamaniden. I. Commissioner Inosha. I.

Vice President Ellis is absent. Ex officio member Howard Chan is absent. And president Smith.

I. Thank you. The motion passes with six votes. Yes.

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That was painful. Then can I make a motion because of the.

So can you fill in the percentages?

Why is zero showing up in there?

Because I. Oh, I just have to reform that.

No, it's probably going to be walking out.

No, it is. Okay. So was that only for the last three? That was the last three, just so we can

say that. All right.

Would somebody else like to make a motion?

So if we have we have money that we all the rest of them could be funded at 100%.

It's whether or not we feel like they deserve to be funded at 100%.

Based on our scores. I move to leave it as is.

I move. Which is that means that means the second the way it is right now for the 25 requests.

So you mean at 100% funding the remainder of.

Yes. So everybody is the number that says 2025 requests will be granted.

I'd like to make a substitute motion to fund the ones under 500 at 50%.

And those above 500 at 100%. I'll second that.

We have a motion that's been seconded.

Thank you, President Smith. I'll do the roll call vote for the substitute motion

made by President Smith and seconded by Commissioner Zamaniden.

Commissioner corpse. I. Commissioner Yones. I.

Commissioner Beckman. I. Commissioner rule. I.

Commissioner Zamaniden. I. Commissioner you know, Hosa. I.

Vice President Ellis is absence. Ex officio member Howard Chan is absence and president Smith.

I thank you. The motion passes with seven eyes.

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Don't get too excited.

A little adjustment to me.

You have gender.

This is extra attention we're welcome.

The last three went up from 20% to 50% or no.

No, okay.

That's the next two.

She had just scrolled that.

Okay, thank you.

Okay.

So what's the trouble awarded?

But my reasons is someone's answer, right?

Who knows how to put the bid?

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You see that little arrow up?

I'll put it down.

Just say it's a small one.

Something.

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I was just trying to do the easy way.

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Okay.

Right.

Our goal for this year is to try and get people to apply to show up.

Yeah.

Because it's sad that we have organizations that could have been fully funded and they show up today.

So I need a motion from someone on the commission to approve the funding allocations as displayed on the screen.

I will motion to pass the funding as shown on the screen.

A second.

I can call the roll.

Thank you, President Smith.

I have a motion by Commissioner Zamanidin and a second by Commissioner Beckman.

Commissioner, please unmute your microphones.

Commissioner Corbs.

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Commissioner Yanez.

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Commissioner Beckman.

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Commissioner Ruhl.

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Commissioner Zamanidin.

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Commissioner Inosah.

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Vice President Ellis is absence.

Ex officio member Howard Chan is absence.

And President Smith.

Thank you, the motion passes.

Okay.

The next item is member comments.

Are there any commissioners who wish to speak?

Questioner, are we going to have this sheet sent to us?

Thank you.

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Just real quick.

Just one look to know the organizations that are new to this process.

The next contact will be probably in a couple of weeks sending out the grant agreement for your signature and that will go to the primary contact that was listed on your application.

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Brian Vargas.

Brian Vargas.

With the city of Sacramento, he'll be taking over or managing this grant.

He's back there waving his hand.

Today was his.

By fire.

Yes.

Because this is my last meeting as well.

Every single person in this room is doing something good for the men, women, and children

of Sacramento.

And we thank you for that.

And it's very difficult when we read through these applications and we know we're looking

for those words.

Food, shelter, transportation.

And when we don't see that, it's almost painful.

So every year we say this, hopefully next year you will know exactly what you need to be

requesting and how you're going to word that.

Because we want to give money.

We want to.

Because there's so much need, so I just want to say thank you to every single person.

Just out of a much more basic level regarding the Bianno reports.

And those are due July 31st for the first half of the year and then the following January

31st for the second half of the year.

But we cannot issue the funding checks until we have that report from you.

So keep going.

Are there any other commission or comments?

Yeah, I have a comment.

Having been in the nonprofit space for about 20 years, I just really appreciate everything

that you're doing.

And we know how difficult it is and with inflation and with some of the increased costs that

we're all experiencing living in California and in this valley.

So thank you for what you're doing.

Keep up the good work.

It was really heartwarming to read all of the applications.

We have 27 that we processed and we just are grateful.

I'm very thankful for what you're doing.

Thank you.

Last.

Thank you.

The last item is public comments matters not on the agenda.

Clark are their members of the public who wish to speak on public comments.

Thank you, President Smith.

I have no speaker slips for this.

The last item on our agenda is a recognition.

I'll turn it over to the clerk's office.

Thank you, President Smith.

This is the last regularly scheduled meeting before a few of your terms expire.

The office of the city clerk would like to extend our sincerest gratitude for the service

of commissioners, commissioners, young and commissioners of Maniden on the Annland and

Bertha Henshel Memorial Funds commission.

Your service has been invaluable to the commission as well as the city of Sacramento.

I'll now be handing out some certificates of service for you all.

And if anyone would like to say a few words about their service, please feel free to do so now.

I'll say something.

So, you know, it's been a great five years.

I wanted to reapply.

I just couldn't with the availability of kids and everything.

But it's been really great to get to know everybody that's heading these nonprofits and

everyone that's involved and all the community members that you're helping.

It's a really great thing that you're doing and it's amazing to see the impact that you're

making on the community.

So, thank you.

I appreciate it.

Thank you.

It's a little too sense, you know, a hard dog.

I'm not interested, but the reason is you asked, I asked all these questions.

I actually read every single page and she says 27, but 27 times, I don't know how many

pieces per person and those audits are not easy to read and understand.

But it was my passion.

I've done this 13 years.

And so keep helping our community.

We need you, but please show up.

Okay.

And it makes a big difference.

We lost so many good organizations that have served for many, many years and they didn't

come for the $10,000 that it could easily gotten it because they served that target market.

And they said those three keywords that we've been repeating through this whole meeting.

So thank you for your service to this community because you know, we need you.

We need you.

Thank you.

And I will just say the same thing.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you again.

Every single person is making a difference in someone's life today.

And we just thank you.

Before we conclude today's agenda, I just want to add my personal thanks to the commissioners

for their years of service.

And also mentioned that prior commission members were approved by the City Council, PP&E

Committee, which I can't remember what that stands for.

And we served six year terms.

All of us that are sitting here were appointed to six year, or a portion or all of a six year

term, depending on when our appointment fell.

And so starting this year, as there are openings, the openings will be filled at the district

level.

So each city council person will be able to fill an opening.

And those seats will be filled for four years.

So we have shorter duration, and we are also increasing the size of the commission.

And so in our next meeting, we will have some new commissioners.

We also encourage, if any of you know someone, not know them well enough that it would disqualify

them.

Disqualify you to have them sitting up here, or they would have to disqualify themselves.

We are always looking for commissioners.

And starting this year, they are appointed at the district level.

So if you have anyone that's interested, you could refer them to their City Council person.

Jacob Redberg, Office of the City Clerk, they can also go to boards.cityofsacramento.org

for the commission page.

And there's a link to apply as well.

Okay.

Is there anything else from the commission?

Okay.

That concludes today's agenda.

Thank you everyone for your participation.

The meeting is adjourned.