Thank you, Madam City Clerk. I now call this meeting of the Sacramento City Council

to order at 206 p.m. Madam City Clerk, please call the roll.

Council Member Kaplan, Council Member Tao, Mayor Patel, Mayor Patel, and

Monty's will be absent. Council Member Valenzuela, here.

Council Member Gatta, Council Member Jennings, Council Member Vang, Mayor Steinberg will be absent.

Vice Mayor Maple, I am here. Thank you very much.

Council Member Gara, would you please lead us in the landing knowledge and the flood of legions.

Thank you, Vice Mayor. Please rise for the opening acknowledgments in honor of Sacramento's

Indigenous people and tribal lands. To the original people of this land, the Nisanan people,

the southern Maidu, the Valiant planes, the Miwok, and the Putin-Winton people, and the

people of the Wilton Rancheria, Sacramento's only federally recognized tribe.

May we acknowledge and honor the native people who come before us and still walk beside

us today on these ancestral lands by choosing to gather together today in the act of practice

of acknowledgment and appreciation for Sacramento's Indigenous people's history, contributions,

and lives.

Thank you. Everyone, I join me in the pledge of allegiance, salute, pledge, I pledge allegiance

to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one

nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

All right, thank you, Council Member Gara. I want to thank the audience for being here.

Glad to see so many people here on a 2 p.m. meeting, so thanks for participating in democracy.

We will now move on to the consent calendar. Do any members have items that they would

like to pull for discussion or separate vote? I see. Council Member Kaplan.

Thank you, Vice Mayor, on item 9, I'd like to bifurcate it.

So items A through E in the motion, which is the motel, keep on consent, and item F, which

is step up on second, have that for separate discussion and vote.

And then just want to speak on items 10, 17, and 18.

Okay, thank you. And then really quickly, Madam City Attorney, your clerk, can we do that

by effortation? Okay, wonderful. All right, Council Member Towne.

Item 13, I'd like to pull up for separate vote and also invite everyone on this foundation,

Sam E's and Capitol College and Career Academy to come up and share what programs and what

they're doing in the community as well. Okay, so separate vote and discussion, item 13.

Okay, Council Member Vounzal. I'd actually like to just pull all of

item 9 for separate discussion and that would be I think preferred. Okay.

Other members? So item 9. So Council Member Vounzal and Kaplan will have item 9 pulled separately.

So at this time, we'll take that later and then Council Member Kaplan, if you want to

speak on items 10, 17, and 18.

Thank you. Item 10, I just want to thank you. If you see, this is an agreement with

St. John's Program for Real Change and Weave, which is helping women and families for

the good work that they're doing as well as finding permanent housing and positive outcomes

for women and children and getting them off the street. So very supportive of the city

continuing this for an additional 12 months. I mean, specifically, you have to look at

it. Over 50% are moving on to positive and with Weave and even higher with St. John's.

There's 70% that are exiting to positive destinations and that's something to be celebrated

with positive partners that we have. And then item 17, which is our coordinated

access system with Sacramento steps forward. I just have a couple questions if Lisa Bates

can come. Ms. Bates, welcome.

My apologies. I am pulling up my question. And of course, they didn't make it. But I know

you and my staff talked earlier and the questions having around, you know, there's been questions

about implementation of the HMI and some of the missing data. What is, where's the process

on that and the timeline on getting the gap in the information?

So the conversation that I had with your staff was around just increasing accountability

and visibility and transparency of data. And so some of the things that we are working

on relative to coordinated access system and beyond is one contributing the HMI system

to a centralized approach that the county is undertaking, the social health information

exchange. And so that's a exchange where a lot of data is going to be put together for

purposes of being able to better coordinate access to the various systems of care that

are happening for clients. So that's one thing that we talked about. We are also in

the process of getting ready to publish for you additional key performance indicators

around how different programs are performing, whether they be sheltering programs, housing

programs, or outreach programs. And that is part of the community standards that you all

saw and reviewed a few months ago. So that data is expected to be coming out quarterly

in July. And then the other thing that we discussed is that as we are required to do

as the COC will be updating our gaps analysis for you and that will be coming out in the

fall. So it will give you an indication of where we have demand and needs that still

are not met in the system.

Then what plans do you have for increasing accountability and transparency with providers

to help them improve their targets on an employee basis?

Community standards was the first step in terms of setting sort of a consistency in terms

of what are expected and a lot of your contracts are embodying some of those requirements.

We will be publishing data that sets a baseline for what their current performance is and then

the expectation is in the following year we will look to targets that we set and hope

that providers can move to continuous improvement on meeting those goals and objectives. You mentioned

earlier the positive exits that is one of the measures that we will be looking at across

our sheltering housing and outreach programs and that information will be available to the

public.

So one of the things I think is important is we have the data what are we doing with the

data that we get like looking at specifically positive outcomes. If one organization is

doing better than another what is it so the best practices can be shared and so that's

the type of information I'm hoping we start really digging into if there is one provider

that may be doing just something a little bit more unique than another I think as we're

spending our money and looking for accountability to make sure we have positive outcomes with

our unhoused what are those best practices.

Absolutely.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

It really is our North Lake community.

We are proving the contracts for Phase 2 of the parks so this is the new development on

your way to the airport.

So this approves this and gets the funding going that we can start building Phase 2 of the

parks for turnkey so that they are available for the community to enjoy and I really just

want to thank our city staff and Yipsey staff for going out and doing a survey in the community

to ask the community once again okay here's what we plan are there any other amenities

thoughts concerns that you have so that they have input on what their parks are going

to look like.

Exciting news.

With that I will move consent absent item 9 and 13.

Okay perfect.

Madam City clerk do we have any public comments on the consent calendar with the exception

of items 9 and 13.

No I have no public comments only on item 13.

Okay so at a motion by Councillor McFlynn and was it a second by Councillor Van Zwill?

All those in favor please say aye.

Any opposed or abstain?

Right.

Passes unanimously.

At this time we will take up item 9 for a separate discussion and vote.

So with that do we have anyone from staff who might be able to come up to answer some questions

and then we'll start it off with Councillor McFlynn.

Okay.

We will move to Councillor Van Zwill.

Sure thank you.

It wasn't questions but thank you Mario for jumping up there and Brian.

I just wanted to provide directions as staff to see if we could explore any recommendations

for the unfunded hotels that apply to provide rooms and we're not selected.

Okay.

And then just questions, you know comments that may be staff or our city attorney could

potentially answer this.

It is come to my attention.

We know in January the attorney general filed a lawsuit against a developer called Shangri-La

who received over $100 million for the home key project with five cities from Salinas

down to Ventura LA, I think San Bernardino, Redlands area and their provider that they

partnered with was step up on second street and that through articles that I have read

that I have sent to our city manager and our city attorney it appears step up on second

street whether they had an interest that Shangri-La paid off or got a loan took $2.7 million

to help with their operating costs because there was concerns about viability and then

that just seeing that gives me a pause because if step up on second is having some financial

difficulties, one, have we done a financial audit of them and know the status of their

finances?

So Councillor McKappling if I may.

We spoke previously on this earlier today and this brought to our attention the article

has been circulating for the last week or so and I think we should work with the

auditors office to take a look at the operator and the financial viability and making sure

that our dollars here for our shelters and our room key projects are not being used to

supplement elsewhere.

I don't think that changes the staff's recommendation but that's something we should definitely

look at and I'll work with the auditors office to do that.

Correct me if I'm wrong that in the past when the city has learned about a provider that

was up for city contract about potential mismanagement of funds that the city did an investigation

and actually held off on providing additional money.

Correct.

Depending the findings of the audit yes.

So my concern is this information come forward.

Information in the article also indicates that during this time the CEO of step up on second

is a former Shangri-La employee and while they are separate entities it causes me concern

that they are intrinsically linked and did step up no about the misuse of funds.

Did they know about that it was illegal to get those funds from Shangri-La which were

actually supposed to be used for home key construction which never happened and because

of the lawsuit well they have to pay back the 2.7 which could potentially put them in

further financial instability because I know Shangri-La has filed chapter 11 and are

there unpaid bills that step up wasn't paid from that and if we do this contract where

is their financial stability such that they don't up and leave Sacramento and leave us

in the lurch because they are pending bankruptcy which then would hurt everybody we have in

our motel program.

I think what we are asking for here today is an extension so that we can go do an RFP

or a new round of operators and for people to apply.

The challenge with kind of pausing for now is that they manage all of our room key projects

and it would be very difficult for us to backfill that because as you recall in years

past we were having challenges just getting operators through the door.

So I would recommend like I said the staff's recommendation won't change but I think we

do do the follow up in terms of working with the auditor's office to take a look at the

financials behind step up.

When I hear you and I'm pretty confident that my colleagues will adopt that recommendation

I'm just kind of doing a very concerned financial stability protest no vote on step up on

second and that's why I asked for a separate bifurcated vote because I approve of the motel

program and one of the things I want with the motel program I know there were a couple

other providers that didn't make the top list.

I would like to is there a way if when we approve this that they kind of stay on the list

in case there's we find more money and we can just move one of them in that they've already

done the qualifications that we could keep them there is that is.

And Councilmember Kaplan that was actually the direction that Councilmember Valenzuela gave

earlier.

Okay.

Yeah.

I'm just making sure that that's legally viable we can do that.

Yes.

Okay.

Yes.

Perfect.

And your comments are not unwarranted.

I'm sure that once we have learned about this that we look into it.

Absolutely.

I just breeding this and digging a little further in does not make me comfortable about

their closeness with Shangri-La and the misuse and fraud of funds whether they knew or didn't

know I can't be.

I mean, those are absolutely the allegations so we will look into it.

I'm rice married.

I'd like to move the item with the direction provided.

All right.

We have a motion.

And that's just to clarify that's a motion on the bifurcation.

So first taking the first to pass a motion by a two thirds vote waving the requirement for

10-day agreement for the five hotels.

So moved.

Okay.

Do you have a second?

Second.

You have a second.

All right.

With that we'll do a roll call vote.

Madam City Clerk.

Thank you and that's just waving the two thirds rule correct.

Yes.

So for this top.

Perfect.

Council member Kaplan.

Aye.

Council member Tao.

Council member Valenzuela.

Yes.

Lysmer Maple.

Aye.

Council member Gara.

Aye.

Council member Jennings.

Yes.

Council member Vang.

Yes.

Item passes.

Okay.

And then for the second, there's also a second motion related to the extension of the contract

for eight months.

Would you prefer me to move the first four and then move the last one separately?

Or just move them all together and have you vote?

Starting with the first motion that was passed by a two thirds vote item state.

Yeah.

Correct.

It was a rule waiver.

Yeah.

But we can include the rule waiver and the motion of the item.

Which then, because item that's only required to move the door.

Okay.

That was my understanding.

Okay.

So the next motion.

I will entertain a motion on.

Step up on second contract extension for eight months.

And can I may clarify the vote we just took was to waive the two thirds vote and pass a through e.

Right.

Is that correct?

Correct.

Yes.

Sorry about that.

Thank you.

So we're waiving the two thirds rule and passing a through e on the recommendation.

So I'll move approval of item s.

Sorry.

And so the motion of the councilmember Valenzuela, second by a council member Jennings.

Please roll call vote.

City clerk.

Councilmember Kaplan.

No.

Councilmember Tao.

Councilmember Valenzuela.

Yes.

Councilmember Gatta.

Aye.

Councilmember Jennings.

Yes.

Councilmember Vang.

Yes.

And vice mayor Maple.

Aye.

All right.

Okay.

Thank you for that.

Sorry about the confusion.

But we got it all figured out.

Appreciate it.

I think some really valid questions and concerns and we'll look forward to seeing what the outcome of that will be.

So I'll move on to item 13 for separate discussion and vote.

And I'll hand it on over to councilmember Tao.

Yes.

So this is the shifting of the opera framework funds and supporting some neighbor groups and folks in the community on certain issues.

So I would like to invite neighbor one is foundation, capital, college and career academy and also families to come up and speak and then we'll open for public comments.

Is that okay?

How much time are you are we allotting for the speakers?

Three, three minutes.

Okay.

So I do have six speaker slips on this item too.

Okay. So we'll take we'll take comment here first.

Did you also submit speaker slips?

I did.

Okay.

So maybe what we should do is go through the public comment.

Okay.

Is that work for you councilmember?

That's why.

I'll start there.

She'll be.

I have six speakers signed up to sleep on this.

You'll have two minutes each.

Kurt Fiera, John Fiero, Nas Bacon, Dr. Gina Warren, Sam Dinkins, Tim Smith, and Kevin Dobson.

So if possible, the lineup in that order.

So first speaker.

Kurt?

Oh, who's here.

Sorry about the keys in.

Come on up, Kurt.

Thank you.

Oh, councilmembers.

My name is Kurt Fiera.

I'm a business agent for the North Carolina Carpenters Union.

I want to first start off by applauding you for supporting such a unique school that has taken a different approach than a traditional school.

As you may know, the focus of the school is to provide students with a learning experience that is hands on with the hands on focus teaching style.

The students are getting real life experiences while in high school and preparation for the real world.

The focus here is providing early exposure to prepare students for a career pathway into the construction industry.

It's obviously not every student will go to college.

So creating a pathway into foundation for the success of those students will benefit us all as a community.

Like what CCCA is doing about the early exposure, we at the Carpenters Union see the need to engage with students early on.

So we have partnered with the CCCA to engage in their hands on program to provide the students with the knowledge the construction trade union has to offer.

Knowledge based on things like what it's like to be a carpenter, what it's like to be a carpenter apprentice and how working in the construction trades lead to the middle class.

We have also participated in several hands on activities where students become excited and engaged.

In supporting a school like this, we see that you two as council members also see the benefits CCCA brings to students and the community and I want to thank you.

The Carpenters will continue to be a partner and work hand in hand with CCCA to make this a success. Thank you.

Thank you for your comments. John Fiero.

Hi, I'm John Fiero. I'm a resident of the city of Sacramento since 1980.

I joined the fire department and retired after 30 years as a fire captain. I earned the city's highest award, the middle of the hour.

And I live in wood like a couple of miles from little Joe's and I decided to open it up again.

And I did that three years ago. We've never had.

Thank you.

I love little Joe's for the record.

We're trying to keep it open.

Next door is one of these hotels, RoomCube motels.

So that's 25 customers usually a day. You know, that would have breakfast and aren't there anymore.

So I wasn't in qualify for the original grant loans and in these ARP loans because I opened in 21 October.

And they've reopened one and they're given some money to see.

And I mean, I pleaded for money also for little Joe's.

And we haven't gotten anything at all. I haven't gotten any grants.

I am in with the facade grant and I'm trying to do something with the Alfresco, but I don't know how that's going to go.

I provide jobs $250,000 worth of wages a year.

$500,000 worth of income.

You know, I pay $40,000 a year, business tax.

And no one approached me with any kind of funding.

It's much going to help us out, which is really good.

But, you know, I'm offering, not as getting a money. I think that's great.

But that's another egg business that you guys are opening.

Two blocks away from it.

You know, I mean, does that make sense? That you don't get any, and a new egg business gets something.

It's like, what do they call it? I'm not fair trade, you know.

It's the same type of business, same breakfast, pancakes, waffles, but nothing here.

And you're going to open that business down there. She has it.

She's a good person. She's going to have a great restaurant.

But they haven't contributed anything. They don't have employees yet.

You know, I've got 12 people.

So, thank you very much. Just, I see they're moving the money from the ARP money into the restorative grant.

I applied for that.

If you're comments, your time is complete.

I was denied the restorative grant also.

So I don't know what my outcome is.

Thank you for your comments.

Naz Becomes.

I'm sorry.

Your time is complete. Thank you.

Naz, then Dr. Gina Warren, then Sam Dinkins.

Hi, everyone.

I wrote something. I'm not good.

My name is Naz, and me and my mother, we are currently the new owners at Sammys, on Del Paso Boulevard.

Sammys has been around for about 80 years.

And when we bought it, I didn't realize what I was buying.

I did not know that, you know, the all this community and everybody has been a part of that.

It's a part of that history there in Del Paso Boulevard.

And I have been overwhelmed with so much love and support from the community.

Everyday people ask me, when are you opening?

When are you opening?

So I'm really looking forward to that.

I'm very thankful to the previous owner for giving me this opportunity to carry on his legacy and doing my best.

And I'm very thankful for you guys into just considering me for this grant.

Like, really, thank you very much.

It means a lot to me.

Thank you.

Thank you for your comments. Dr. Gina Warren, welcome.

Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for the opportunity.

I want to give a little bit of perspective for neighborhood wellness foundation.

We've been in Del Paso Heights since 2015.

I grew up there. I was there since 1977.

And what we did, the co-founder, Marilyn Woods and I, is created an organization that builds from the inside out bottom up.

Our focus was dealing with intergenerational trauma and poverty so we can understand from the granular level what the problems are.

Regarding low illiteracies, what's regarding violence and as well as substance use disorders because we know that there's a direct correlation between adverse childhood experiences and these challenges.

And so when we decided to comprise a team, and this is only a part of our team, we have 19 staff, paid staff, and they are unmatched.

They all are directly rooted in Del Paso Heights for generations, and they provide a perspective that we integrate with our clinical and our academic and our business knowledge to serve the community.

We have 110 years of incarceration on our team.

So when we are out on the homeless trail, we are serving those who we see from a clinical perspective, those who need help.

We talk to them, we learn the challenges that you have from domestic violence to substance use disorders, but all of them associated with adverse childhood experiences.

So this is the work that we do.

What we're seeing now from the fentanyl overdoses to other challenges is that once now that they've cleared the bike trail, they are now wandering around aimlessly in our neighborhood, and they showed several of them at our center.

So we're still able to provide them the support, identify them, connect them to the resources that they need to be successful, and we appreciate the support and the consideration and the support of the work that we want to continue to do.

Thank you.

Thank you, Dr. Warren.

Thank you, hear from Sam Dinkins.

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I'm a 49-year-old individual from Del Paso High, he's pointed raised my whole life.

Thank you, City Councilman Tyle, for being here to provide this space for us.

Thank you, everyone, on the panel.

I have, with my neighborhood, there's 12 reversals with what we do with neighborhood wellness.

There's 70 preventions from what we do with neighborhood wellness on the bike trail, as well as I lost the sister out there, three, four months ago, March 10th.

That's why I said that for one, to let you know about me.

Today, I'm a part of reviving lives, not taking lives, or not hurting nobody, or not taking something from nobody, or not displaying negative behavior, but trying to involve back into my community to give back to my neighbors, to give back to the children that are now abundant to me, to give back to myself, because I have a lot of trauma.

And it's being addressed within neighborhood wellness walls now.

So that is, to me, it's an amazing step.

Like she said, we have 100 and something years ago in graduation.

I'm 30 of them years. Thank you.

Thank you for your comments. Tim Smith, then Kevin Dobson.

Good afternoon. I'm Madam Iceman, members of the City Council. It's great to see you again.

As I mentioned in previous conversations with this council, with you individually, in some cases, I have long supported the distribution of the arpa grants as quickly as possible out into district two.

I'm happy to see that this is going forward, and I support the motion as it's currently formatted. Thank you.

Thank you for your comments. Kevin Dobson.

I'm Kevin Dobson, Founder Executive Director for Capital College and Career Academy.

We are a free public charter high school, and as a charter high school, one of the key differences from your traditional school down the street is that we are unable to raise tax revenue for facilities.

We're incredibly proud that we had the largest union construction project in North Sacramento since light rail went in in 1987.

We're one of only two countywide charter, countywide benefit charters, us, and fortune.

This funding today allows us to expand our programming and our outreach, and allows us to continue the partnerships with many of the organizations that are on the agenda today for consent.

Our first year has been finalized, and we've had students doing jobs at us all throughout the county, including in the mayor's office this past year.

We have students working at a number of union signatory contractors, and with some of local architects and engineers, including some state agencies such as CalTrans.

We also have students going into first semester sophomore year that have obtained over 20 college credits.

We've had students who have been working at the university for a few minutes

so just incredibly thankful for this funding that will allow us to continue our youth programming that we do in addition to being a high school.

Currently, I have over 100 students on our campus doing a summer program.

So just wanted to thank you all and give you an update on how things are going on there.

Yes, first off, I would like to recognize our staff with DCR, you know, great job on the bike trail and working with the community to definitely building that partnership.

In August of last year, Neighbor Wellness Foundation took the initiative to do a lot of harm reduction work on the bike trail.

And with the mayor's lead, you know, in April, the mayor connected with DCR with Neighbor Wellness Foundation to continue that work.

And what we found out with that work was that, you know, we needed more than harm reduction, we needed more services out there for the population.

And with this capacity building grant to Neighbor Wellness Foundation through our Clean and Safe Program, we hope to equip our neighborhood,

to focus on our neighborhood, to have the skills, to have the access to HMIS, to work with other agencies with the city, county, Sacramento, steps forward so that we can definitely do a better service for the bike trail and our unhoused residents there.

And that is the goal of this grant.

And I would like to thank Neighbor Wellness Foundation for stepping up and doing the work since August of last year.

Next is, you know, Capital Career and College Academy. This is one of the, you know, campuses that is invested in North Sacramento, I think, union support and also providing an alternative to kids who would not want to go to college.

And, you know, I think, growing up in District 2, I would love to see a lot of my friends be able to access this type of school and, you know, to support and make sure that this campus succeed in a district is key to bringing back investments and jobs for the area.

But also, with the grant to Samis, with the loans to Samis, Samis has been in the community for 80 years.

You know, this year is Sacramento Centennial year. The old city of North Sacramento was still a city.

Actually, last week on Tuesday would have been its 100 year celebration of being its own city.

And Samis was there, little Joe was there. We need to make sure that we have both Samis and little Joe's operating on the possible of our Asc anchor businesses.

And just to memorize that North Sacramento is thriving and we have been assist there for over 80 plus years.

And with that, I would like to move the item and close public comments.

I'll call second. Okay, I heard two seconds. So we've got a motion by Council Member Tau and then is it right?

There's three. We have a three way. So we'll give it to you, Council Member Jennings, for the second.

Just got a pick here. Okay. Madam City Clerk, will you call the roll?

Council Member Kaplan, Council Member Tau, Council Member Valenzuela, Council Member Gatta, Council Member Jennings, Council Member Vang, and Vice Member Maple.

All right. Passes unanimously.

Wonderful news. And really excited. Thank you for everyone who showed up. It was really incredible to hear about the work that you're doing. Dr. Warren.

Yes. Exciting work. And I think we're all due for maybe some field trips to both Samis and little Joe's.

Yes. And the road. Well, thank you so much. Okay. While they are filing out, we'll move on to the discussion calendar. We have item 20.

Our ordinance amending section 3.56.070 related to janitorial and security guard service contracts. Welcome.

All right. Good afternoon. The ordinance before you today includes amendments pertaining to contracts for janitorial and security services.

In summary, the changes would accomplish the following. Ensure that all new and amended contracts for these type of services be performed by organizations with the collective bargaining agreement or letter of intent in place.

And also to utilize the public utility code prevailing wage for janitorial workers.

And the next amendments are based upon policy direction received on June 18, 2024. Council meeting reflected an attachment to of the report before you.

Staff worked with council members to include a second exception for on call security services for events where cost of services are past to a third party.

This exception will allow the city to ensure the city is able to meet unpredictable staffing needs for applicable events.

And can you introduce yourself? I'm sorry. Diana Ray is an ask per care manager. Thank you. Great to see you again. Madam City clerk, do we have any public comments on the site? I have no speakers on the site. All right. So we'll do have. Yes. While we wait for her to come up.

Give her just a moment. Important to hear from the public.

Our first speaker is Andrew gross. Yeah, get on. Then Demetrius House. Following Demetrius is Irma Ariza. Irma, Pasinta. Andrew. Welcome.

Good afternoon again. Andrew gross. I just wanted to express my appreciation to the staff and to the city attorney's office for the work that's gone in, particularly since the last meeting because there were number of things we need to straight details we need to straighten out.

I also wanted to express the appreciation that the security officers whose employers are frequently union elsewhere will finally have a chance also to be able to have you a new representation.

So I hope we're able to make this past today. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Demetrius. Then Irma. Welcome.

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My name is Irma Reiza.

I have been working as a janitor for more than 35 years

and eight years in the city.

I've been building the buildings

at the city of Sacramento.

I'm currently cleaning the building

at the police station at 300 Richards Boulevard.

I'm very happy that we have the benefits

as all the other janitors in the union in Sacramento.

I'm really happy to have you here.

I'm very happy to have you here.

I'm very happy to have you here.

I'm very happy to have you here.

I'm very happy to have you here.

I'm really happy today because we, the janitors

from the city of Sacramento, who clean the cities,

the buildings of the city of Sacramento

will have benefits like the other janitors

here in Sacramento of our union.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I've been working for four years

for the Lincoln Company, Training Center,

and I've never had any health benefits.

That's why I'm happy that we're going to achieve it.

I've been working on these buildings

for the City of Sacramento at Lincoln Training Center,

and I have not had health benefits,

so I'm really glad that this is moving.

Thank you for your time today.

Yes.

Thank you.

Are we going to do something?

Good afternoon.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I came here to support you.

I'm also a janitor.

I'm in the industry for almost 30 years.

I'm in the industry.

I have to live here in the United States for 43 years.

And all the time my work was to be a janitor.

And it made me just what is happening to my colleagues

in the industry.

And I'm here to support them.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I'm a placencia.

I've also been a janitor here in Sacramento for almost 30 years.

Since I came on, I've been with the union,

and I've found it a very harsh injustice

that my fellow union member janitors

do not have the health care benefits like I do.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Dante?

Welcome.

Hello.

My name is Dante Butler.

I have been working in security for about 12 to 15 years.

I was a non-union security officer.

I was a unionized while I was working as a security officer.

And now I just recently transitioned over to becoming a union rep

for security officers.

And while I was on my bargaining committee as a union officer,

I was able to get the city officers to be able to be represented.

And it was the fear that the companies have

from that stuff that held us back on that.

And as a union rep, I've had to answer the question

of non-union city security officers as to why they don't have

what their coworkers have who might be working right across the tree

from them or right around the corner.

So I very much appreciate what you guys are doing today.

I'm going to be able to propose one.

I know that you guys are also in favor of as well.

Thank you.

Your comment.

Joy Hunt.

And then Irene Velasco.

Good afternoon.

I just forgive me.

I have a little allergy voice.

My name is Joy Hunt.

And I've been a security officer in

Sacramento for six and a half years.

When I started, this was my job site.

So I worked here initially.

I'm also part of the bargaining committee.

And we have been trying to get security contractors to include

the officers at city buildings.

And we believe their fear is they would lose the account

if they allowed workers to unionize.

But we need that.

We need to have some kind of security.

I was very serimonious and undumped from here.

They called me about an hour before I was supposed to come to work

and said, OK, not today.

I don't think that would have happened, you know,

if we had somebody overseeing the whole scenario.

So it's only fear that the people who you have watching you

get paid a fair share.

So with that being said, I'm going to conclude.

But thank you.

Please make sure that when you vote for security and janitors,

that you really think about that.

Thank you.

Thank you, Joy. Good to see you.

And our final speaker on this item is Irene.

If you can come on up to speak to state your name, please.

Is Irene here?

I'm Gerald McKinnory.

I was in the bargaining committee from the very beginning twice now.

And I work in security and the state building.

I finally was able to get in the state building for me after years of,

you know, pushing for that type of change.

And subsequently, now we got this proposal in number 20 that they want

to now take away the union or have them other security companies

come in and bid for those type of jobs that we fought for so hard trying to get into

and have enough air pay.

I'm a homeowner.

I take care of my family.

I have a mother's disabled.

And there are people that are in the union that have been in the union

making much more than we are.

And yet, I'm taking care of the state building and having to, you know,

work with the management help people have access to property and also protect the property.

So a lot of us have worked really hard to be in those positions where license,

we're supposed to be first responders.

They're giving us C.H.P. bags.

They're giving us all kinds of stuff.

But yet, we're getting paid lesser than anyone in the building.

So I just want to keep that in mind that we really want what love for you to vote for

20 protect our union jobs.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I'm Senator.

Thank you.

I'm Senator Clerk.

And just really quickly before I turn it over, I just want to thank everyone who came here today

and last week as well.

I know this moved quickly in the short term.

But I also really want to acknowledge the members of this council who have been moving this forward

over many, many years instead of finally get to this day.

So that's very exciting when I acknowledge that.

I also want to acknowledge our staff for the very hard work.

Short timeline working with all the partners to make it happen.

I know that's not easy to do.

So I just really want to acknowledge the work that you've done over the last weeks and months and years on this topic.

So with that said, oh, and then one last note.

I did want to say I know there were a couple of mentions on this.

But I just want to make it really clear that under this, if it moves forward today, that we're not precluding anyone from participating or submitting.

You know, you just, if you have the ability to submit to work with the unions, get an L.O.I.

We invite you to always come and apply and be a part of our processes.

And it's just a new requirement now under this, if this passes.

So I just want to make that clear.

And with that, I will hand it on over to Councillor Verdon's will.

Thank you.

Thank you, Vice Mayor.

And thank you for those opening comments.

And I definitely want to recognize the work of my colleague, Councillor McGuera, for his many-year effort to correct this issue that started 14 years ago.

When it came to the changes that were made to our living wage ordinance that I believe inadvertently precluded health care for some of our most vulnerable and lowest paid workers on the city team, which are our janitors and security team members.

So I do want to thank you all for coming back again.

Good to see you.

And I definitely want to echo my thanks to staff, especially Jennifer from the City Attorney's Office.

There were many, many emails, many emails over this weekend that I was following trying to keep track of the back and forth between USWW staff and Jennifer.

And I just really want to thank you.

I see those changes reflected.

I appreciated your authentic engagement in this given that this is quite possibly the fastest I've ever seen in ordinance come back to council after we gave you direction last Tuesday.

But you did.

You incorporated all of the changes that we made to try to respond to staff's concerns and concerns from the public.

And I really think just more than anything to carry over on the vice mayor's point that our most vulnerable workers, I think more than anybody deserve health care.

And I deserve the choice to join a union.

And that's really what this ordinance will do for those who are currently in represented on our city team.

So with that, I do have two very technical changes that just happened because I didn't see section F at the end until this was sent out to us yesterday.

So two small changes, one for the emergency services exemption.

So I'm going to go ahead and intent and I realize an error that I didn't include this in the written document I provided last week was to exempt on call security services emergency security services not on call janitorial services.

And so I would like the word just janitorial struck from that because staff's concern I know specifically about security on call and I want to make sure that that's limited to that.

And then for the events exemption, I do appreciate and I saw the language again last night on exempting events.

I want to make it very clear that this is about special events that are permitted by the city of Sacramento, not just any event.

So I just want to define events as special events that are permitted by the city of Sacramento because obviously those are different.

And sometimes we deploy security officers and then essentially bill that permit for that cost that's a different scenario than.

And so I just want to make sure it's very clear that that's what we intend.

So with those two changes, I would like to move this item and thank again staff and all of the stakeholders who've engaged very authentically with us in this process.

And I see the assistant city manager coming up. So go ahead.

I just want to make sure when we talk about events, we talk about someone might be having a wedding reception at Crocker or the Democratic National Committee comes to the convention center and they say to us all of a sudden we need 80 people.

And so it's very unpredictable.

If you consider that a special event held at it depends on how we define that.

And I'll give you several different examples. I held a bot mitzvah party at a community center. I had a DJ. There were over 100 people.

I had to have eight hours of security.

I had the convenience of the city engaging in contract services for me, but I paid the bill so I didn't have to write two checks to two different people.

That's what we mean by event at community centers.

So those were the types of events that we were talking about. We're not talking about a special event that might happen through special event permitting or those same things are included, but it is all inclusive of events at C3 events at community centers events at the Crocker because they're very unpredictable.

We can't just say we need 20 people. It will vary by who books when they book, what we know when they book, and what we have to do in order to get the people there to service the events.

I will tell you at the Democratic National Committee that our union contractors couldn't serve us.

They could not provide enough people. Only our other purveyors of these services were able to staff the amount of people with the required uniforms in order to serve our clients.

I think I'm going to jump on. I think that's what you meant, right, but special events, or you meant to exclude those?

Yeah, no. I meant to cover special events because I mean there's still an application process that happens for those. I don't just get to walk in the convention center and say I'm doing this event.

I don't know if permit is the right word to use, but I'm paying you for service.

I think we might be saying the same thing. Matt, can you come up here and talk about that example?

I don't want to do is exempt the year round staff at the convention center or the year round.

No, no, no. That's what I'm trying to get.

The permanent staff, I think we are seeing the same things. The permanent staffing is going to be fine.

I was looking for that one off is one thing because they're paying for that.

What is the right word, Matt?

Good afternoon, Vice Mayor Kaplan, members of the council. Madam Clerk, City Manager Chan.

I'm Matt Voyer. I'm your general manager for the Safe Credit Union Convention and Performing Art District.

I think what we have at hand a very distinct difference between facility, security, and event security.

So when you have, we as a city entity, we will have a licensee for live nation to do a contract or do a concert at the auditorium.

They rely on the city security, which has been approved and vetted through the City of Sacramento Police Department that's been vetted.

And those men and women that are hired, we schedule them based on the needs of the concert, the times and the number.

And then they, the licensee, in this case, live nation would be the one paying for that service.

This is helpful. So maybe then my amendment is a further clarification that our approved vendors are going to get first right of refusal.

Like the folks that come through our contracting process to provide janitorial, they have, they've met the requirements of this ordinance, they would get first right of refusal.

And then we would move on to the other contractors. That would be maybe a way to keep the language, the way it's drafted as events, but still ensure that we're honoring the intention, which would be that those folks that are contracted with us that have met these requirements, would get first right of refusal.

You're talking just for security, because this is the-

Yes. This is the only thing that's on the areas of event.

So I think again, if we do the distinction between facility security, which are men and women that sit in front of a desk, perhaps, or watch a camera, or they may check security, put somebody on a wristband before they get up to a certain level at an office, versus someone who is equipped to do security checks, bag checks, prevent alcohol from coming in, not to say that these men and women can't do that, but the amount of bodies that we would need in the case of the Democratic Convention, there was over 50 staff.

You all know there was some trouble that we had there, and the amount of security that's needed to pull off an event like that, and it would or could preclude other-

So I understand your point here.

And I'm accepting your point in terms of the amendment requested here by staff. What I want to ensure is that we are giving first right of refusal to the folks who meet the requirements of the section first.

And that's my consideration. It's like, hey, you contact the union provider, and they say, sorry, we can't meet that need this weekend. Great, we move on to the next in line. That's what I'm.

Well, I guess my question would be that it would be, we would leave it up to the licensee to look at the approved Sacramento Police Department Patrol list.

The contracted ones that we're talking about today could also be on that list, and it would be up to the licensee to say I would like company A, B, or C.

I think it would put us at a disservice, and to be able to tell a client what they can or can't do in terms of what security they can or can't provide, because again, based on the licensee, they could do a number of things.

I'm not saying can or can't. I'm just saying first right, like they go to them first, and if they're not available, then they go to them the rest of them second.

Yeah, I think that.

I have a question just so I can understand procedurally. So if I'm, let's say I'm throwing out a concert, I've got Katie Maple, Inc., and I'm going to throw a concert.

So you would provide me a list. You say you're required to have 50 security officers, security guards. Then I would look at that list, and I would call around and I would say okay, who's got the best price.

If that's what I'm most interested in or who's got the right, whatever things I might be looking for, then I would make a choice based on my own budget.

And to contact with that company, I would let you know, and then I'm paying the bill for that. Is that correct?

So this we would not, we the city would not be providing the bill. It would be up to the licensee to pay for the services.

So I think it would be giving us a disservice to tell a client what they should or shouldn't pay based on their budget, because obviously the hourly rate could be different based on whatever company they choose.

So if you do a first right of refusal.

I guess I'm not clear on what the intention of this language is, and then I'm sorry to be going back on fourth on this, but I didn't really get a chance to see this tell you yesterday.

So what we're talking about is not when I as an event planner contract with security. What we're talking about is when the city contract with security and bills the person who's using the space.

So this is specifically, so if I'm doing a parade downtown, I'm paying for my own security. That city is not involved in my procurement decisions on that because I'm a private entity.

Versus if the city says, hey, you're doing a concert at safe credit union, we are going to charge you X for security.

And that is part of your cost of coming in, right? Like that's what we're specifically talking about.

Not the case where somebody is selecting. This is when we're saying, hey, we have found the security people to meet your demand and this is how much it costs.

So what I am saying is, for those instances, the city starts with the vendors that would meet the requirements of the section, and then if there no one is available, go to the next in line.

And I'm going to pass it over to City Manager, Jim.

I think we're saying here it's a it's a past. So the city is not involved other than Matt and the team trying to attract these events to the convention center or C3 project.

So in that instance, it is a pastor. We're helping facilitate that. And we have a list of approved vendors that they can select from.

I think what Matt's point is that if we say you must reach out to these top three vendors first, what Matt sings that that really doesn't work for some of the event holders because financially might not work for them.

So we're leaving it up to them, but we help facilitate that because those vendors are vented through us already.

If we choose to go in this route, it is more than likely that they will go out and procure their own security.

So we will not have the advantage when we compete with other folks to draw folks to come to Sacramento and say we can offer you a complete package.

They're going to have to then go and get their own security separately in lieu of us being able to offer something where they could potentially.

We have the flexibility to staff as needed and it is 100% pass through. This is nothing that the city and where there's no city money for these events is used for security with the exception of base facility security, which will always be subject to the union requirements.

Yeah, this is I guess I'm just I hate that we're legislating this from the diast like this. I wish we had had a chance to talk about this sooner.

So I guess for me, in this case, you are providing a list. They are selecting the person we pay. So we're saying so we're letting them select somebody that we pay.

It's a pass through that. It's a pass through. Correct.

So, but we are the ones actually paying the bill to that security company.

Well, so when you doing so we do settlement. So let's say we have ABC promoter coming into settle the kid rock concert.

Yeah, that particular promoter is routing these shows across the country to 300 shows a year, right?

They do not want to have to write a check to security, write a check to catering, write a check to audio visual, write a check to the union, write a check to telecom.

But they've asked us to do is in the 25 years that I've been here, we collectively put it on it what we call a settlement sheet, which we collect the money from the promoter.

And then once it's said and done, then we turn around and get the invoice and that's how it's paid.

And they're already paid through settlement. We're just again the conduit to make sure that the services what we need is provided and the security is paid.

Okay. Thank you, Matt. I mean, I'm fine with staff's language on this. So we'll just make the strikeout for janitorial for on call.

I will just express my extreme frustration because I feel like we did a really good faith effort last week to try to address the concerns that had been raised by staff.

And then this came in at the night hour. And I really wish that we had had the opportunity to have this dialogue to understand this in advance so that we could really have a thoughtful dialogue.

But at this time, sure, let's keep the language as proposed by staff. So we're just striking janitorial from the exemption for on call emergency services and moving the item. Thank you.

Okay. I have a motion and a second by Councillor Embergera. And I will move out to Councillor Embergera.

Thank you. Thank you very much. First, I, again, I also want to thank all of the folks involved in this for a long time.

I do want to thank Andrew over here for being able to figure out how we can move this forward. And to recognize that the first time we made these changes, we were trying to each time help address what I mentioned before, which is just the unfortunate,

unfortunate, unfortunate, underpayment in the overall janitorial market and security market for this, in this case.

I do want to thank my colleague, Valenzwonov, for moving us forward in this direction and at least for bringing up the conversation of preferred vendors.

I understand where you're getting at, but I do think that at least here what we're getting out of this proposal today is that our facility security and our janitorial security, which are our employees, we're lifting the bar.

You know, I appreciate all of you, you know, the reality is that this work is difficult, it's on rable and it's necessary.

And those three points are what we're trying to respect the labor of you.

With a weld that is respectable and we know that we have to do more.

kind ofz impression with that, I just want to thank everyone

for their consistent work on this,

and finally, and also I do want to thank our convention

Centre team here because

you know, we're

as we find out

our region is very competitive now and we want to maintain

that competitiveness

so that we can continue to draw more

that tourism here in our region

so I— on top of just our daily operations

Thanks again to the city manager for your team for getting us to this point.

That second.

Thank you very much.

Now we move on to Councillor Cappellan.

Thank you, Vice Mayor.

Thank you, Vice Mayor.

Just a couple of questions.

Just want to make a statement first.

To make it very clear that I am fully supportive of living union, wages, health care, wage protection

representation.

My concern is the unintended consequences because we are sausage making on the dias.

And that is a statement that I learned from working at the Capitol that you never craft

language on the dias.

I don't know the history of how long this has been worked on.

So for me, it is very disconcerning that we are crafting and changing language on the

dias.

And I think we need to be thoughtful and mindful that this was council's direction.

So if there is any concern as to why we are rushing and how we got language, it is not

the staff's fault.

It is our fault.

We are asking for things last minute.

And I am very concerned when our city attorney doesn't get the chance and they have one day

to relook at things and that we don't know about the unintended consequences.

Very clearly, I have concerns about the unintended consequences.

I don't have concerns about the union contract, the health care, the wages.

My biggest concern is what are we doing to contractors, Lincoln Training Center, those that

hire and provide work for disabled workers.

As a follow-up, you know, something that is of concern to me, the county of Sacramento

has always had pride industries, opened up and hired a new custodian contractor.

There are approximately 40 people on contract.

There, the new contract starts.

The information that I have received is that out of 40 people, one decided to stay when

the new contract starts on July 1st because those who work for pride industries are not

going to get the same level of wrap around support.

They receive from pride industries that understand disabilities.

So they will not pick up their employees and transport them.

They will not get job training and facilitation with the new airport contract.

And my concern is if we are seeing this with the county, even if Lincoln Training Center

signs on and they come under SEIU or they go to work for another organization, are they

going to get the same wrap around services?

Or are we unintentionally, but intentionally excluding those veterans who have served

our country and are disabled?

For me, that is unconscionable that we would have that unintended consequence.

Quick question.

If, which I am pretty sure, Council passes this, what is the increased cost to our budget

deficit?

Sure, thank you, Council Member.

So we are estimating around a half a million to $650,000 in increased cost annually.

And what is our budget estimated budget shortfall next year?

So for next year, it was estimated at 77 million deficit.

And as you know, that is excluding the hap.

So if we get the hap, it is probably closer to $50,000,000.

Is it a fair assumption that in order to close the budget gap, unfortunately people will

have to be let go because we swept all the vacancies?

So I think right now it might be premature, but I think Council is going to have really

hard decisions on how are we going to close this gap?

So we have limited revenue opportunities and so we are really going to be looking at the

cost side mostly and Councils, and right now we can't afford to maintain our current

level of services.

So Council is going to have to look at a number of things that are going to be tough decisions

for next year.

Yeah, just quickly I want to say, I want to be really cautious about how we talk about

things like this because it is not just public and attendance here, but our city staff and

employees watch these meetings as well.

And those are policy decisions that may or may not get made.

We don't know that.

You don't know that until those conversations happen.

So I just really want to be cautious of that.

And I don't want to send that on.

And I fully appreciate that.

If I can.

If you interrupted me and I'd like to finish my conversations.

I hear your comments there.

I'm sorry, but yes, I fear this, but I also have a right to speak and you've been interrupting

me.

So I'd just like to finish my comments because I've also been very clear that we have a

long-term budget deficit and I want to be mindful, but we also have to be honest with

them.

And our opinion can differ.

And I appreciate you telling me that you differ with me, but I have a right to speak

up.

Right.

And I was not saying that you don't have a right to speak.

I was just speaking after Pete's spoke.

So you are actually speaking.

So if you want to finish your comments, then we can move on.

That'd be great.

So thank you because when you look at our complete budget, a majority of our costs do

our employee costs.

So it is fair having been through budget issues before I think we have to be honest.

And here's the thing.

I hope ultimately we don't have to cut any jobs, but I'm asking honest hard questions that

we have to consider.

And I hope I'm wrong.

How about that?

I hope I'm proven wrong.

I do want to be proven wrong.

But we as a council have an obligation to balance our budget and it is incredibly

difficult to do that.

And I just want to be mindful when we take actions, there's a balance of when we do things

of the costs that come up.

I don't know who can answer that, but which unions represent janitors or custodians?

The only one we're aware of during our limited research is SEIU in this area.

And then which unions represent security?

The same that we are aware of.

Well, it's SEIU, but a different chapter than the janitors.

It's the same chapter.

Or it's the same chapter.

And then during our last RFP for janitorial services, how many bids did we receive?

For janitorial, we received 11.

8.

It was 8.

11 over the past three solicitations.

And of the eight, we had three non-union, four union, and one that we can't identify.

And so if we make this change, it will only allow union organizations to bid on this correct.

Either union or with the letter of intent, which just means that they'll speak to their

employees.

Okay.

So Jennifer, the then this might be you.

I have a question.

Can you please explain to me the difference between the terminology and how we define letter

of intent versus card check?

What does that mean?

Because we've been using that language interchangeably and I want to understand exactly what it means.

Because as I read the definition, it basically says you're entering into a contract to become

a bargaining member, not that you're allowing employees to organize.

Hi, everyone.

Jennifer Gour from the City Attorney's Office.

So I don't know that I can speak to what the term card check means as it was, but what

I understood from the conversation during council last time was that the letter of intent

was meant to allow the employer to remain neutral because we were talking about card check

neutrality and to then allow the employee ease to make a decision.

So the language that we added to the ordinance based on the term to define the letter of intent

better.

So I think that the parties, which in this case refers to the employer and the union.

So they have to have entered into a letter of intent.

And the letter of intent just says that the party's intent to enter into a subsequent agreement

if they are awarded a contract for the city, that the union and the employer will enter

into a contract that will outline a procedure for employees to exercise their representation

rights as they are granted under federal law, meaning that the employer won't oppose,

consistent with federal law won't oppose unionization.

And then it also, the letter of intent also says that if as a result of that, if following

the letter of intent there in place, do choose to unionize, then they will enter into the

collective bargaining agreement that is established for the region.

And then the letter of intent also says that the labor union will oppose the award of

the contract to that prospective contractor based on the fact that there's a letter of

intent and they're going to allow for that process to proceed.

So then that provides a little pause because how would this apply if linking training

center? They sign a letter of intent. They represent disabled individuals.

I have a question because somebody had said to me that disabled individuals are exempt from

paying union dues.

But I'm not sure if that's something we can answer.

I think that's probably best directed to SCIU, representative.

Okay. So that just because there's the pause of if they sign it, but somebody is disabled

at what is the definition of disabled for them to sign on?

Can they legally sign on and then are they exempt from paying union dues?

What does that mean? Because there's potential unintended can even link and training center,

and a letter of intent with disabled individuals.

I think that's okay.

This is what we don't have that answers, but maybe SCIU does.

Would love just some thoughts on that?

Mr. Greaton.

And as Mr. Greaton comes up, I think AFSME is at least one other union that represents

the genitory workers as well as different chapters of the greater SCIU.

So Mr. Greaton.

Lots to in-house janitors as part of other bargaining units.

We represent contracted security and territorial.

We've had a bargaining relationship with pride industries for about 20 some years.

They approached us not a dissimilar starting point to what we're talking about in terms

of letter of intent.

We are not, the union's not privy to someone's disability status.

The employer is, that's HIPAA protected information.

But if the employer through the appropriate medical qualifications has determined that

someone is disabled, the way we do it with pride is we have a statewide letter of agreement

that exempts those people who have significant disability as determined by their medical provider

that exempts them from the collective and bargaining agreement entirely.

So if it were a situation like Lincoln Training Center and there are other disabled

contract, disability contractors and other states that have worked with our sister

locals, they have a mix of disabled and regularly abled folks.

You heard from Iramah Aresa who worked for them here at the city.

You also heard from Leonor Chihuahua who works for them currently at the fire department.

If we were to do a card check agreement with-

So is card check and letter of intent the same thing?

There's two different situations that a letter of intent can address.

With the janitorial workers, we represent a majority of the janitorial contracted workers at the city currently.

So if another company that's non-union wants to bid on UBS's contract with the city,

those workers are already union.

So card check is not part of the process.

If someone were to bid on Lincoln Training Center's current work,

we do not represent the janitors.

Whether it's Lincoln Training Center bidding to renew or somebody else bidding to renew,

a letter of intent would have to include a card check because those workers have to be given a choice

and a process to determine if there are majority who want representation.

So if it's Lincoln or Pride or some other disability employer who wants to take over Lincoln's

existing work or renew, we'd have to engage with that employer.

Or what do you want to do about the disabled employees?

But our practice has been where we have a collective bargaining relationship is to exempt those folks

because of the question of capacity to make that kind of decision.

I mean, I would say this personal opinion,

that folks who are in substance abuse issue are in a different boat,

then folks who are developmentally disabled,

and the level of mental capacity and ability for independent living independent decisions are different.

So there has to be a conversation with the employer about what's the best and the most fair way to address this.

Does that make...

Totally makes sense, and I just want to say thank you for clarification.

Again, this just goes to my hesitation of what's the rush?

Because this is the first time I've discussed this on the dius.

You and I haven't met.

I knew nothing about this coming forward and what it means.

And just my MO is I am hesitant when we rush things legally,

and we're writing new code, what it means,

the concerns about economic impact of unintended with our convention center.

I mean, this is not anti-union in any way.

This is I don't understand the rush and wanting to be very thorough,

because once you get something it's hard to change it,

and the consequences happen and undoing them,

for me is just very, very difficult.

And I'm not comfortable with that.

And I have a hard time for rushing our attorneys.

That's when mistakes happen.

That's when unintended consequences happen.

And this isn't a blame on staff.

This is us going through.

I know there are five votes to go through,

but I want to just make very clear to you and SEIU.

This is not me being anti.

It is I am very concerned about unintended consequences of being very thoughtful

to make sure we don't make mistakes.

That hamper our ability to bring in more money,

to know that we have the right language,

and that there are concerns being addressed with those that are disabled,

because I can't.

I have family members that have served and are continuing to serve.

For me, just wanting to be very supportive of our disability community,

who already gets significantly discriminated against an employment.

That is the reason I will be voting no,

but I need to be clear.

It has nothing to do with all the protections that unions provide

that I am 100% supportive of.

But I just want to thank staff, you for clarifying some of the issues I did,

have concerns on.

And I know this will go to a vote.

All right.

City Manager Chan.

I just want to make a quick comment.

Thank you, Vice Mayor.

Appreciate Councillor Kaplan about the discussion about the deficit next year.

Vice Mayor absolutely surfacing the issue about employees being sensitive to that,

because everybody is watching.

I will make the comment that I did when we kicked off our budget season here this past

going around.

And that is it's going to be a challenge next year, whether it's 77, 50 some odd, 40

some odd, it's in flux.

What's also true is that there are only three ways to address that.

We're going to look at potential revenue growth, reduction in expenses, or changes to service

levels.

That's a conversation we're going to have on this council with the council members,

depending on what those numbers look like.

It's not insurmountable, but it absolutely is going to take a team effort here to get

that home.

But I just want the employees to feel like it's eminent that we're going to lay off.

But there are a lot of decision points that need to be had before that comes to pass.

Our budget, they think, is still wet, hasn't dried yet.

Thank you for that really important point to make.

I just want everyone to know that you will be involved in all processes, especially

all future budget conversations too.

And I just really also want to thank Andrew and the whole USW team for coming and being

able to answer those questions on the spot.

So just appreciate that.

And with that, Madam City Clerk, will you call the roll?

You council member Kaplan.

Council member Tao.

Council member Valenzuela.

Yes.

Council member Gettah.

Aye.

Council member Jennings.

Yes.

Council member Vang.

Yes.

And vice mayor Maple.

Yes.

That motion passes.

Wonderful.

Thank you so much.

Yes.

Thank you.

Okay.

And so we'll move on to public comments, not on the agenda.

Do we have any public comments?

Yes, vice mayor.

I have four.

Roger Dickinson.

Daniel Savala.

Julius.

Then Ryan Masano.

Welcome, Mr. Dickinson.

Vice mayor and council members, thanks for the opportunity to speak this afternoon.

In addition to my own comments, these all comments are also embraced by Andy Hernandez, the president

of the North Sacramento Chamber of Commerce, former council member Rob Curth and Dwayne

Crenshaw, the CEO of the greater Sacramento Urban League among other community members.

District two lacks basic infrastructure in too many places.

Curbs, gutters, sidewalks, lighting.

And it needs upgrades to water and sewer lines as well as streets in order to attract investment.

I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.

But for many of us, we think a path to addressing this is through an enhanced infrastructure financing

district for district two.

An EIFD which could overlay district two and generate funding for investment as well

as we use to match available state and federal money as well.

An EIFD in our estimation is completely justified for district two based on the disinvestment

in the district for too many years.

The county could also be asked by the way and we're welcome, we're happy to approach the county,

to participate in the EIFD that might be created on the instigation of the city to maximize

the generation of tax increment financing.

We would request that the council ask the staff to begin working on an EIFD for district

two now.

Since we know and you know, it will take a long time to get this in place.

And frankly for those of us who care, I know all of you do about the welfare of district

two as well as the entire city, we don't have the luxury of time.

Thanks very much and happy to answer any questions as well.

And of course we will be working closely with our council member, council member, toll throughout

this exercise.

Thanks.

Thank you so much.

Thank you for your comments.

Daniel Savala.

I'll be brief because I was looking at my calendar and this is the last meeting of

year.

Okay so I'll be brief.

Just echo what Roger said.

I'll tell a brief story.

You know, North Sacramento, they'll pass the boulevard has been a food desert or had been

a food desert for a long time.

When we were building a grocery outlet in 2015, we came very close to losing it not once,

but three times because from some serious infrastructure issues that we had.

And so you have a needy community that needed a grocery store and we were constantly going

back and forth for simple issues like adequate drainage.

Thankfully, we have some really talented city staff who got created and were able to get

that project done.

But since said we have this huge conversation about whether it be housing or whether it

be housing that we want to build in Robla, there are some critical infrastructure issues

that we're facing district wide.

The enhanced infrastructure district would be phenomenal for district two.

So I just want to come up here and give a second to what Roger said and let's hopefully

have some direction in the future to get that going and bon voyage with everybody guys

to go on.

Mr. Savala, I'll have you know, we still also have a 5 p.m. meeting.

But thank you.

Next speaker is Julius.

Following Julius is Ryan Masano.

I realize now that the members of the City Council couldn't care less about what I have

to say.

So if and when I stand here, my expressions will always be to address, will always be

addressed to the American people.

If we are to change Sacramento, it starts by removing the politicians who claim to be

for you, but are not.

Though use words such as democracy and what they and that they believe in free speech,

however, when speech delivered is speech they don't like, they have no problem tyrannizing

the very people they claim to be for.

It's time to vote these people out and vote for people of Christian morals who care about

the people and not about a woke ideology such as LGBT or racial equality, etc.

The fact that I stand here and express my concern to the members of the City Council

and am ignored proves that they don't really care about minorities like they claim to do.

If I said white supremacy is a threat to America, that the LGBT need to be seen, that black

people need to be heard, I will get praised and applauded.

But if I or anyone else said who controlled the money and who controlled the politicians,

watch how fast our free speech will get shut down.

How can we ever move forward with making Sacramento great if the City Council members always

hold us back from telling the truth?

Thank you for your comments, Ryan Masano.

I know I'm telling the truth when some people turn their backs.

Good evening, Ryan Masano, at masononnews.com.

Please tune in to my radio show, the Ryan Masano show on Saturday, 3-5 Pacific, and 6-8 Eastern

Daylight Time on SpeakFreeRadio.com.

Thanks to the City Council because you've gotten me so popular now on my radio show.

Please continue.

Please do not interrupt.

I don't need to ask anyone's permission to share the results of thousands of hours of

research.

Every interruption this council has engaged in for the past years included in a nice lawsuit

that will place the city in even more debt.

The lack of self-control of this council is costing Sacramento a lot of money.

If you want to make it worse, just interrupt me again.

If you interrupt, then claim my time is up, then hold a recess and use the police to arrest

me again.

The third time you'll have done this in the past three months, it's not going to end well.

Somehow Julius Guy, Mack, and a few others can sit here and listen to you for hours without

interrupting.

Though we strongly disagree with the majority of what you are doing.

But when we come up to talk, there are constant interruptions and points of order.

I know we say things the media isn't paid to say, which is why people need to hear this.

In 2008, I purchased this book and if you could turn that picture on, please.

I was at 50 seconds.

So I purchased that book in 2008.

So it's $269 right now and on Amazon it's $269.

So this book details how America normalized the perversions of homosexuality and it's

a very good book because it shows you the agenda behind it.

Why so many young people are just totally deluded.

But homosexuality is a perversion.

It's an abomination against nature and no one should be supporting homosexuality and

this is free speech.

And the shame is anyone who supports it.

Please keep your comments.

This is relevant.

Please do not interrupt me.

If you support pride, I support anti-pride.

Thank you, Thomas.

Vice mayor, I have no more speakers.

Thank you, Madame Seaclar.

I see that we have council comments moving first to Councillor Bonswell.

Thank you, Vice Mayor.

Following up on the city attorney's recommendation, I would like to direct her to work with the

city clerk to prepare a rule for the council's consideration to clarify how performance

evaluations of council appointees are considered in the future so that we have a very clear

process in the future.

Thank you.

Why is that clear?

Perfect.

Okay.

Councillor Mertão?

I thank you, Vice Mayor.

I just wanted to provide a direction based on public comments.

I believe North Sacramento has been divested for long enough.

And today I want to ask staff to look at establishing an EIFD encompassing all of North Sacramento.

You know, understand that EIFID, the question always is do we need a catalyst project and

I believe that's the discussion of putting the chicken before the egg or the egg before

the chicken.

And I believe in EIFD over time allows us to look at infrastructure support which is really

needed in North Sacramento.

Our infrastructure is over 100 years old.

We see the report and the Ford together plan.

You see all the disinvestment in the city or in the city of Old North Sacramento.

Fun fact is the city of Old North Sacramento or North Sacramento, all North Sacramento

doesn't even operate on the city's water system which is from the American River.

We still draw from the well.

And so our infrastructure is really old.

I believe we need this funding to supplement more affordable housing in the district and

the area for infill development projects.

So I would like to ask the city manager and staff to look into this request and report

back via to council or a memo just on the feasibility of an EIFD and a salivant of a community

to look at this for North Sacramento.

All right, well taken.

Is that clear city managers?

Yes.

Wonderful.

Councilor McGara.

Thank you very much.

In the ad vein I do want to thank Daniel Savala has been doing a lot of work in economic

development out there in the boulevard and also thank you for our former supervisor and

assembly member for that.

Glad to support that effort in talking through it.

It happened to be on both of the EIFDs for the rail yards and the Aggie Square and

were in the process of this Dr. Boulevard EIFD which is not an easy endeavor.

I think we've relied on a number of sources to try to even get to the points where we're

at.

To that question, Mr. City Manager, I want to make sure that now that we've concluded

the general plan, I want to find out where we are on the on the stock boulevard EIFD as

well.

I believe that that was the biggest hurdle here we were using the general plan and particularly

the stock boulevard specific plan as that.

So if we can get the work in there, I do want to thank economic development, Leslie

Fritchie who's been involved in all those three EIFDs, big shout out to her because I don't

think we would be where we were at.

But also, even for those in my district, until we have the county involved in the future

tank secret meant, it really is a number that isn't as grand yet.

So I want to set expectations to, obviously, every penny counts when it comes to investing.

I think everyone matters.

And as Mr. Tao, glad to support in that effort.

And whether it's chicken or egg, I like fried chicken and I like scrambled eggs.

And what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Okay.

All right.

Here we go.

Excellent comments.

I also want to share Councillor Vergara's question on the other side of stock boulevard deeply

vested in this and want to see it be a success.

So it would also look to see the outcome of that.

Okay.

Seeing nothing else from my colleagues and nothing else to come before the city council, we will

be meeting in close session at 4 p.m.

So we've got a 20-minute break here.

We are adjourned at 3.40 p.m.