Okay.

All right.

It's called this meeting to order of the Sacramento City Council.

Please call the roll.

We have a council member, Council member Kaplan, Council member Dickinson, vice-merit element.

Council member Plecky-Bong, Council member Maple, here, our pro-temgata, Council member Jennings,

Council member Rain, here, and Mayor McCarty.

Here.

You have a quorum.

Thank you.

Council member Maple, can you please lead us in the land, acknowledgement and the pledge?

Please rise a few or a few.

Please rise to the opening of knowledgements and honor of Sacramento's Indigenous people and tribal lands.

Should the original people of this land, the Nisanan people, the southern mind you,

Galiim pleams me up, puts on two peoples and the people of the Wilton Rancheria,

Sacramento's only federally recognized tribe.

May we acknowledge and honor the native people who came before us and still walk beside us today on these ancestral lands,

by choosing to gather today an active practice of acknowledgement and appreciation for Sacramento's Indigenous people's history,

contributions, and lives.

Remain standing, salute and pledge.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands,

one nation under God, end of Israel with liberty and justice for all.

Okay.

Mayor, we did not have a closed session prior to this meeting, so I'd say to assume that we do not have a city attorney's report out.

Correct.

Yes.

Okay, consent calendar.

So I have five speakers for public comment on the consent calendar.

Do council members have any questions or comments on the items?

Council member Vang.

I'd like to make a comment on item 12.

Council member Kaplan.

Questions on item four, comment on six and 14.

Council member Dickinson.

Comments on number 11.

Okay, seeing no more punched up, let's start with council member Kaplan.

Do you want to do four six and then 14?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Item four, just a couple of questions.

This is regarding community facility districts and our special tax administration.

Is there anybody here that could possibly answer a question or two?

Hi, Brian.

You know, Natomas has a lot of CFDs.

I have gotten a question or two that I just want to highlight right now.

I think about confusions between a CFD and an EIFD.

A couple EIFIDs are coming in front of council.

Can you just briefly say why these are different or can they be both done at the same time?

What is the difference?

Thank you for the question, council member.

So we start with CFD and then shift over to the difference between EIFD.

So a CFD is community facilities district is formed under the Melaroo Act in 1982.

We have a number of different CFDs in the city.

They have been formed for a couple of different purposes.

One is services and maintenance.

So things like park maintenance.

So those services are intended to not supplant, but they're too additive to the services that the city already provides.

So the other CFDs that have been formed include capital, capital nature, capital improvements.

Things like we work with the city with developers.

So Greenbrier, Delta Shore, others.

The developers construct their improvements.

And the city forms the CFD as a way to form the mechanism to issue bonds.

And the bonds are then used to reimburse or acquire their improvements for the public benefit for either that area or kind of that portion of the city.

So it can be for infrastructure sewer water.

Absolutely.

So whatever the eligible improvements are that are kind of specified in the formation documents.

So it could be white ranging water, wastewater.

It could be road improvements.

It could be a whole white range of things.

And one of the distinctions of a CFD versus EIFD is a CFD is a special tax.

So it's the imposition of a tax that's paid by prop owners within that CFD.

So if a CFD has 100 task wall parcels, there's a configuration of formula, a methodology by which the taxes imposed in Lebede.

And so it's distinction because a CFD is considered a legal, separate entity.

So it's separate and apart from the city.

While the city issues the bonds and issues and managers of the debt.

The debt that's incurred by the CFD is not on the city's books.

So let's kind of pivot over to EIFD.

EIFD is an enhanced infrastructure financing district.

And essentially over the last 10, 12 years post dissolution with in January of 2012 with ABX126 and most recently with assembly bill of 1484.

There have been different redevelopment tools that have taken place.

And one of them is the enhanced infrastructure financing district.

And what it allows is completely different than a CFD.

It allows for the growth in the base revenue.

So if an EIFD is formed in a part of a city, we create what's known as the base year, the base taxation.

And so the incremental revenue that's the tax revenue that's generated in year one, year five, year 10.

That could be used to fund different things like capo improvements.

And one of the distinctions there is it's not a new tax.

It's already part of the property owner's tax.

It's essentially taking a portion of the assessed revenue that would otherwise go to the city and general fund.

And reallocating it towards that part of the city for what it ever dedicated services or improvements that are envisioned.

So distinct is once new, once a new and additive to property owners in that area.

One is existing just by way of virtue of property owners paying their tax bill.

The growth in assessed revenue is essentially kind of the mechanism by which either pay go or a means to issue bonds and be able to bond against that revenue stream.

Thank you. And I know that's a lot.

But considering this council is going to be looking at EFIDs and questions kind of come up that could be confusing.

But you could have an EFID and a CFD on one parcel and piece of property.

Absolutely. So for example, you know, the consideration for rail yard CFD.

Right. So this the CFD was formed a narrow years ago in 2022.

We issued bonds work and a couple years ago the city we formed what is known as previously known as the rail yard stadium area EFD.

And right now there are efforts to amend the boundary of the rail yard stadium area EFD to be kind of coterminous with the CFD.

So to your point, Councillor Berville, yes. The CFD and EFD can be stacked on top of one another.

And I just want to thank you because sometimes finances, you know, that's not my Bailey Wick.

But I think sometimes we need to discuss it out in the open because there are questions and concerns.

So I just wanted to use this as an instance that there is nobody better than Brian who can answer our questions if anything comes up in that.

But I am good with the item four. I just wanted to use this as an opportunity to clarify a couple of things.

So thank you, Brian. On item six, I just want to highlight and again, thank the city of Sacramento for partnering with their start program with the Robeless School District.

We are going to be providing before and after school services to a total of 1,000 kids.

Over 90% of the Robeless School District is free and reduced.

And this is truly an area where we can help provide enrichment for our students most in needs where they can succeed in life.

And on item 14, I just want to highlight because if you look at this, this is our 2025 annual weed and rubbish abatement notification.

Just to remind council members, you know, I found out I have 738 parcels that need to do weed abatement and cut their grass that this is just the notice.

But the fines will come back in a couple of weeks. So now owners have a couple of weeks to do this before they will be fined.

So council members, if you've got anybody that needs to make sure we reduce our fire hazard, this is really about reducing fire hazard that they can do so in the next couple of weeks without being fined.

And that's it. Thank you, council member Dickinson. I'm loving.

Thanks, Mountfork. I will add a ditto on the comments on item 6 by council member, Catherine.

Very pleased to have start in the Robeless School District. For all the reasons she mentioned, I wanted to take a moment to underscore the action that anticipates will take with respect to item 11, which is the D2 thrives initiative.

And this really is something that I think the entire council should take pride in and recognize it is the next step following the adoption of the Forward Together Action Plan from last April that the council approved.

It is a strategic roadmap really designed to revitalize the Mary'sville and Del Paso Boulevard commercial commercial corridors.

There are a number of noteworthy benefits that will come as we vote today to award $330,000 to a variety of community partners for specific activities to implement the plan.

And it represents really the next step, not the ultimate step but the next step in our efforts to bring back North Sacramento, bring back these corridors in particular.

So some of the benefits include economic revitalization, enhanced community, well-being, prevention of displacement, increased community engagement, long-term investment, improved infrastructure, increased local business support among others.

And so I am delighted to be here to be part of this today, but I want to also make sure I share thanks because there's lots of moms and dads for this effort.

A number of them are out here in the audience, but I want to recognize the neighborhood development action team and MacKale who is taking care of a new baby somewhere.

they'll pass up all of our partnership, Sierra Service Project and a Sierra Community Land Trust among a host of others. So it is truly from the ground up and out.

And that's the way we build a community, that's the way we build strength and that's the way we build sustainability over time.

So I want to express great thanks to all the partners. I am very, very excited about this.

Can't you tell how excited I am? And looking forward to all the good work that's going to come from this and finally just want to repeat my thanks to my fellow council members for the actions of the past and the actions of today and the actions of the future to invest in district two and in these commercial corridors.

Thanks, Mayor.

And council member Vanguette comments on item 12? Yes, I have comments on item 12 and just wanted to echo council member Dickinson on item 11 on the grant agreement and district two.

Thank you again to city staffs, hard work, shout out to former council members on Tau as well for that. And so great that we have a champion D2 making sure that this is continuing.

It's so important to make sure that we don't leave these communities and these corridors behind because when district two does well, all of Sacramento does well.

And so congratulations council member Dickinson and to the district two community. I wanted to just comment on item 12 to the same staff as well.

This is regarding the Med of you community farmers market operator. I represent the Med of you community in South Sacramento.

And there's many families in household that lives in that community without vehicles that are low income and there are more than half a mile away from a supermarket or fresh produce.

And this farmer's market is something that we launched last summer. And I want to take this moment to thank Michele, our senior development project manager who's actually overseeing this food initiative.

I want to say thank you to Samantha, Lisa Thong, my director of strategic engagement, our Med of you farmers market committee made of residents in the Med of you community that really helped guide this process and a special shout out to assembly member Stephanie,

who actually helped secure state funding through the California Department of Food and Ag. The Med of you farmers market was launched last summer like I shared. We completed our first phase.

But then we had to launch an RFP to make sure that we use the remaining grant until 2027 and seek a long time operator really excited that alchemist was chosen to be our long term operator.

They do incredible work in the community. They operate Cal fresh booth at farmers markets so that our Cal fresh families can access and can use their eBT card to purchase healthy and culturally relevant food.

And so I'm just really excited to get this going and to launch the farmers market again this spring. And just really want to thank city staff and community members that led this project to make it happen. Thank you so much.

Thank you councilmember. I have six speakers on this. Simon Hyatt on item two.

So Simon please feel free to land on the aisle after Simon is Mac worthy and Henry Harry.

Greetings council. Mr. Mayor. Thank you for the opportunity to be appointed to the active transportation commission today.

I especially want to thank you Mr. Mayor because I think it showed a lot of leadership as far as I included my involvement in the opposition in the election last year and did a lot of work to get Dr.

I'm sorry. Where are you a graduate my or city management academy planning.

Very good. Well nice. Wonderful and my working families party champions. So one other shout out the other a few weeks ago charity spoke about the

trucks all road bridge and really wanted to thank Lisa for for her comments that day. Moving forward I would like to see you know

that our city streets are some of our a lot of people are being killed being injured I've personally been hit and run myself and as a top priority as the mayor's appointee not just representing my own district but representing the entire city.

I think the top priority for me will be to find the ways that we can make our Roseville road campus safe I want to give a there was a woman Wendy Wendy Connell was killed in January a resident at that campus it was commonly campaign last year.

The comments your time is complete our next speaker is Mac were the on item four Henry Harry on five and seven Mac were these on four and seven appears.

only thing that you say that you go deal with bonds and you're going to keep up that property when you be at Pellet.

this is called Be at Pellet, we don't actually know how many companies that contribute to your campaign.

so we can give this stuff to the right people when they come to town and show that this is abuse of bonds.

the constitutionality to that when it's being peddling within a city and you got

like these little small beers with silversies, why can't the person get a

permit to get a country? No because they didn't contribute to your

bid to your campaign. I wonder where is the constitutionality to that? Did anybody

file the constitutionality? We know we ain't got no attorneys here in this town.

Corporate attorneys, all the corporate attorneys are somewhere for working for

some point without them. That's what we're looking for, the corporate attorneys

that we can file, I was sitting here on three more speaks where we see stuff

going here that's ridiculous. We can even track the money and then you're gonna

have a tax within a tax high as a explain. What about the extra money with that?

Bond did not tell the previous mayor you can't survive all bonds. You just said

that you had to sell some of those bonds because they went down. Wake up people.

The time coming. Give your comments. Henry Harry on 5 and 7 then

Rashan Davis on item 11. Thank you members of the council. On item 5 you show a map

of the city land that is proposed to be used downtown. I just want to point out

that I've asked this council or maybe you can direct me to somebody in the city

who can give me a wider map that shows all the city on land so that I can start

to process some ideas that I have and I've spoke about those at council. Moving on

to number 7. The police department seems to be moving toward a no-bid

software software system and I'm gonna request it maybe you can make that a

one-year contract so the police commission will have a chance to review what's

going on with that contract with an eye on how information is stored and

shared by that provider because I think that's an area where the police

commission should be involved it. I have two minutes here but the police

commission can really dig down and make sure our data is protected and that the

police department is getting a good product. One of the questions I have is

or the thing I'll point out is we don't know if those other providers would

have tried to provide any fix any shortcomings and still give us a cheaper

product and so the last thing I'll say to you guys here is just my objection to

this meeting that to a clock. These are very important issues fast majority of

our people are out working and at a time when they can't be here you're you

know debating these very important issues and I just object to it thank you. Thank

you for your comments Roshan Davis on 11 then Demica LaCluse also on 11. Hello

everyone how are you? My name is Roshan Davis with Culture I don't have much to

say but we've been working on something very special in D2 and I invite all

of you guys to come see it with the help of the city with the help of the

folks in the community like Councilman Dickinson said we're working from the

grassroots up but also building from the top down so we have a lot of the

pieces to the puzzle to really affect change in our communities and we're

working diligently on it so I would definitely appreciate your support and

passing that thank you. Thank you for your comments Demica. Greetings

Councilmembers Mayor McCarty I just want to reiterate what Roshan said what

Councilmember Dickinson said thank you in advance for passing this item we know

that District 2 is a thriving community with historical spaces and

multi-generations of families who have thrived but also have struggled and we

want to make sure that any revitalization efforts include them and make sure

that they can stay and enjoy the fruits of their labor and the resilience that

they've shown over the years. The forward-together action plan is really a model

that I think that I hope other cities and other areas will duplicate ensuring

that our community members who are at the forefront of these challenges are

also the voices at the table that collective governance and consensus

building is at the forefront of what we do to really build community cohesion

and make the space a place for everyone in Sacramento to come and experience and

for the people in District 2 to live and work and play and so appreciate this

item coming before you appreciate City staff, Michele whose name has been

mentioned many times but again you know working with Michele and Ginger and our

partners, our service project mutual assistance, the Del Paso Boulevard

partnership and of course culture. This is a collaboration that we hope to see

more of in your districts too. Thank you. Thank you for your comment Mary

have no more speakers on the consent calendar. Okay we have a motion and a second

on the entire consent calendar all those in favor please say aye.

Any nos or extensions please say no. Hearing none measures pass. Next item please.

We move to the discussion calendar item 15 is City County Partnership Agreement

to address homeless crisis update. All right good afternoon Mayor council. This

is our six month report for the City County Partnership from July 1 through

December 31 of 2024. This we're about halfway through this agreement almost

exactly halfway through this agreement. It's been a good baseline agreement to

get the city and county to work together and have some accountability on this

and provide you some feedback every six months to show you the work that we're

doing. All right so what we have done is taken the agreement and broken down

into four separate areas outreach services shelter housing and training and

information. If we look at well let me back up I will tell you that we have been

using the same model with the red yellow and green red indicates that an

area has not been completed yellow is that it's in progress and then green is

that it has been completed in full and meets the requirement and so in the

outreach area we have met all the requirements we have green across the board

we have we do have ten and camp and teams that are out in the city every day we

have actually the city has so these are minimum standards on this 25 city

and camp workers we actually have 40 out in the field right now with DCR our

contract with hope step up and that gets us ours the county has ten mental

health workers out there's actually two that are in currently in training which

will bring them to twelve and so we are deploying out to every day very large

teams throughout the city the county is meeting their 67% within the city

their mental health workers in the city currently community health works is

providing the 15 Cal aim workers that are providing the ECM and community service

component of this county staff obviously is conducting the ever health

assessments and enrollments constantly and I'll let them speak on that as far as

breaking that out a little bit later city will determine deployment sites for

engagement we deployed teams every day throughout the city covering all of our

districts and we we assign out every morning and camp and teams will engage in

20 large encampments this language is a is a little older language we don't have

20 large encampments throughout the city in total obviously this changes over

time but we are certainly engaging in more than 20 encampments per month

far exceeding this and then the last metric on this is navigate in a range

people experiencing homeless back to their jurisdiction one appropriate for the

city we've always looked at this is in that we will get you back to your

jurisdiction if we have a contact and someone that is willing to accept you back

into your district we we don't want to just take somebody into another city or

out in the county if they're not going to a specific location to be to be

housed this is a look at some of the outreach that we've provided in the last

six months 3,879 unique locations that we've been to we have served 2,348

unduplicated individuals so it is not a combined or going back in and repeating

this is individuals that we've actually talked to and provided service for and

in the breakdown numbers there's 40,000 overall services this is a in total

all services that all of us out there have provided from providing clothing to

general case management getting vital documents putting people in the

coordinated access system so it gives us a total of 40,000 services that we've

provided in the last six months under services the county has provided the

four core centers that we have been been stood up core exit was the last one that

came online and we're meeting that metric the sobering center that we have is

the crib the on 7th and age well spaces running that is not only a sobering

center but it also has a behavioral health component to it the next metric city

county will refer care coordination programs including behavioral health so

we have the behavioral health out treat outpatient treatments we have FSPs and

then of course we're providing the Cal I'm enhanced care management FSPs of

program is full slots will be added and county is meeting the state standard

for access to substance disorder services and then lastly when appropriate we'll

provide the involuntary diversion programs there's the outpatient programs we

have care court that was just brought up in December and we're meeting that

metric under shelter and housing so our first 12

months the county did meet the metric by opening their 200 beds the shovel

ready we'll skip over 36 months and go to the shovel ready site we the city

provided the shovel ready site is Stockton Boulevard that just came up in December

and we opened it with 175 and then the 36 month metric up there is the what

avenue that's sproak ground and is going right now slate it for two 25 so we'll

get credit for the 25 from that to make the 175 from Stockton Boulevard add up to

our total of 200 required in that metric city and county we both have

shelters that are outside of the coordinated access system and then the rest

that aren't we don't have so the access to this we wanted immediate placement

that we have so we have our Roosevelt Road Center and our outreach and

engagement center that we can immediately place somebody everything else has

been put into the coordinated access system and so we have city and county

have both met that metric and then City County will finalize an affordable

housing plan this this was back in October 23 that we provided an affordable

housing plan and lastly City and County agreed to seek additional funding for

mental health and homelessness we are constantly applying for prop one home key

plus ERF have any funding available out there so we're very active in providing

seeking grants to cover this last area is training information counties

provided the mental health first day train to the city they provided the public

health education to shelter operators we had asked them to come and provide us

the city DCR staff information on all the programs and how to access them and

they graciously came over and over months treated trained us up on several

programs that they have the next one city and county shall track and share

information and data on outcomes we have cleaned up this metric quite a bit have

agreed on how we're pulling this information part of it is from the HMI

S system the other part of this is in the behavioral health there is a

little safety wall in there because behavioral health is in that treatment mode

so there is some hippocompliance that we're working with and careful with that

we don't share any information that shouldn't be shared outside of that and then

lastly the 5150 training was asked for in the last six month requests and they

provided the 5150 training to the city DCR workers and with that this is just

an overview that we are hitting all of our categories right now and open to

questions

so Mary have seven speakers shall we take those first thank you main say chow

Donna Taylor Macworthy

Twana James Mac and then Simon Hyatt please feel free to line up in the aisle so

again main say chow Donna Taylor Macworthy Twana James Mac and then Simon Hyatt

thank you for the council and the mayor we still don't have no power at the

trailer and people are getting really sick in this moment thank you Donna

so everyone first I want to thank God I want to thank everyone on panel I'm

the resident of first-depth community located on 3900 rows we are wrote where

there are located 39 pilots I mean trailers with no electricity and there are

60 pallets with electricity not only that the pallets I mean yeah the pallets on

floor and road all have electricity the ones on Stockton Boulevard all have

electricity and it's not fair that we don't have electricity for the trailers on

Roseville Road not only that there's no way to walk nowhere to walk there's no

word to park your car nowhere to wash and dry our clothes and it's not fair that

the other shelters have these things and we don't have them so I wanted to say

that and it's just not fair thank you thank you if your comments Macworthy's

next up did you want to we hear many things on this homeless what are you training

and don't did you get anything from the medical where is the doctors to declare

that person is milk where's those documentation we want to see those

documentation now who owned the sites that you're in do the city accounting on

your sites I might as you get information up now when we look at that is we said a

district what are you in the Constitution to tell a person they can't get

mental health treatments because they're not in this district we want to

get that that's bullshit this saying if I got to go to the doctor I got to

shoot a doctor where I live get your act together people these are the things

that we're going to ask the Republican people on step-up on this because

somebody abuse and money here you create these things but you're not saying

what money going you can't survive all burns and grants this thing going out

here how many of those people in mental health that have graduated from

mental health you can't people once you in that treatment what are you getting

in pills for those people tell them the truth tell her how you come to be that

these are things that you should be doing when you run into those things like

over at the city college over the weekend on Martin King on Martin County that's

bullshit you get into those neighborhoods and talk to those people and find out

what's now is going on not to pass you don't know about the past so know what you

read I live the past of abuse so wake up people your comments Twana and Mac

it wouldn't hurt for you guys to look at us when we come up here we appreciate that

my name is Twana James and I'm resided on 3900 Road for a Road and I'm here to ask

Roger Dickson if we can have an appointment with you if you can have one

year staff come and meet us and have an appointment with you we have mold we

have I mean there it's just it's not livable there I broke my hand there in

December and it's hard for us to get an appointment with the director there I

have my hand I cannot feel no more the people they I mean they live it how would

you feel if everybody had power but you even the staff trader has power they have

power hooked up they wasted all that money to hook it up just take it down and

and keep these people on the code and he everybody has power but them that is not

even I'm in a pot I have he but I'm here for my friends because it's wrong I

I just think that you guys should have people come in there and have a phone

number that people can complain and me have enough people complained and then you

know do something about it we're living in built here the people they some

people the staff the nine times that is beautiful daytime we can get them do

nothing they just sit there on the phone we have to wait for them to get

off their phone and texting so that we can get them to asking to do you know

some for us and then and then it's just I think that you guys have some heart

for them people have power they don't they freeze if they want to heat they go

into the dining room people keep these blaring lights are on I mean come on

some of them I have a job and they got to live to that it's not right just

please think and I got pictures it's the things that we have to live through

mode in a shower nobody cleansed nothing they were not supposed to clean how

we're supposed to clean about the weekend we got 20 minutes to sit in there and

and we can't clean it's so much thank you for your comments your time is

complete next speaker is Mac good afternoon council my name is Mac

my pronouns are they them and I'm a community organizer in Sacramento I always

appreciate presentations I always appreciate when we give more information than

the bare minimum in presentations I'm seeing today 2300 unduplicated

individuals where we have a housing search slash placement being 1800 I

think that those are two different things right housing search versus

housing placement and things like that and I think I bring this to your

attention because oftentimes what we see is these services right the general

care the housing the hygiene or the clothing the hygiene transportation food

services care coordination all of these things are oftentimes precursors to

sweeps in Sacramento City districts and limits so then you sweep people and then

you can't find them and then we have to start the process all over again I think I

want to speak on a large encampment sweep that just happened off of El Camino

about two weeks ago it happened on a rainy day over 400 people were shoved

further down and out and further into hiding so that way they can just you know

live in their tent and try to stay warm this was done by city rangers alongside

hope and DCR that day hope sat in their car while DCR had one person on site

standing there watching as law enforcement and sheriff work project in

coordination ripped people's belongings away from them I think the biggest

critique that I have besides the sweep in general is the fact that actually a

lot of these speakers were a lot of these folks were Spanish speaking

individuals which meant that when officers went out and put their tags out they

dropped one and did not speak to anybody who lived there which meant that

nobody knew what was going on until the day of and they had their shit starting

to be ripped from them and then threatened with arrest in a language they

don't even understand so that's the coordination efforts comments your time

is complete thank you for your comments our next speaker's time is right always

always

greetings council and I just wanted to stand in solidarity with our residents at

the Roseville Road facility Mac just spoke about transportation and I wanted to

alert you to an article front page Sacramento be Wednesday February 19th of

this year that tells the story of Wendy Connell who was killed on Roseville

Road just outside of the shelter and when that shelter was built we were told

that it would have access to transportation local transit and that it would be

safe but unfortunately Roseville Road is proven to not be safe it has a 50

mile hour speed limit oftentimes as you know people don't drive the speed

limit they typically drive 10 and 20 miles an hour faster and that's how we

lost our neighbor Wendy Connell who was on her way to getting housing as you'll

see in that article by Ariane Lang so do read that article and let's slow

the speed limit ASAP this is something that we can do really quick which if we

have homeless facilities last year we talked about you know we can't tell

people where they can't be without telling them where they can be well the

places that they can be need to be safe for them to get to and so it would be my

proposal that we would treat any homeless shelter just as we would treat a

school and have a 25 mile an hour speed limit those are something things that

we could do right away without having to do more bike lanes things like that we

can lower speed limits like that and and help save our communities lives thank you

thank you for your comments Mary have no more speakers on this agenda item okay

thank you questions and comments council members councilmember Kaplan thank you

mayor mr. Pedro a couple questions now that we are two years into this

partnership and you are a little over a year into what you're doing and

figuring out what are the next steps especially how can we increase the

accountability and increase the results in helping our residents who are on the

streets getting them into supportive and permanent housing what do you see as

the next steps to help increase the positive outcome that's a big question so

the the agreement itself so this city can't you ship agreement addresses some

baseline service provisions and we there's some good points brought up we are

providing a lot of services are those as as we progress so we started with an

original model and we had to we had to have some kickoff point to determine

how we're going to address providing services so we started there we're now

halfway into it and we're looking at our are the services we're providing the

correct services are they getting are they effective are we making a

difference everything that that we would look at to readjust I can tell you

that we have been constantly looking at our metrics and trying to determine

what will work better for us we have pulled a lot of our behavioral health

workers off of outreach and trying to provide behavioral health outreach in the

streets and put them into our shelters so that they can provide more effective

behavioral health where we can make contact with that individual day after day

in a setting that is more secure stable and so we've been making adjustments such

as that we have we we have more adjustments that need to be made and it's up to

you to decide if we want to do anything with the city county partnership and

add more to it or look at other services that we would want to provide or

shift our service model and thank you for that I'm I'm not on the the

partnership so this is my one opportunity to publicly state my opinion so we

don't violate the Brown Act but I see the good work you're doing and also

acknowledging that we receive less hat money and so now we also have to look

at we are facing a budget deficit I think it's more important than ever that we

find ways one we increase the data we're getting and to look at what are we

investing in because you know I've said this before it's not new getting a

35% positive exit into housing is not a good investment in our money it's good

for everybody that gets those services but what are we missing so I would

support you talking to those of my colleagues who are on the city county

partnership of we now have a baseline what can we do is that is better that is

more accountable seeing that potentially less money is coming in the governor is

is requesting increased accountability which I know you're instituting but I'd

like to be you know lockstep with the county so that we make sure we're both

in line on that and then something you said that would just like to hear your

thoughts on how we're investing in sobering centers they're not being used as

much as they could be and we heard from our police chief was it last week it

could have been the week before that when they booked somebody like they're

losing an officer off the street for three plus hours and is a sobering

center a better place for somebody versus jail and then I know sometimes our

sobering centers can reject somebody coming and saying we don't want them

there how do we I've seen models in other cities that sobering centers are

very effective as an interim place so I am I'm looking forward to your thoughts

on that your thoughts to the four by four of how can we work better to make

sobering centers more productive so that our officers are not necessarily

spending three hours in booking because those individuals probably don't need to

be in jail and how can we strengthen the balance of making sure our sobering

centers are taking individuals so that they have a safe place to sober up but

not not through jail I don't expect you to have an answer now but that's

something I'd like to see more of and that conversation in the partnership

agreement thank you yes and and I will mention that there are a couple of

things that we are currently doing we have the street overdose response team

that is a combination team that DCR and a paramedic from the fire department we

have two of those rigs up right now they are taking individuals to our

sobering centers and so that's one component of using the sobering centers more

and then we are also on the fire department side they're looking to address

that alternative response models so they can actually take somebody to a

sobering center instead of a hospital so there are a couple of ways it is

are they're already in effect to use the sobering centers more great and I know

we have a county representative here if they've got any thoughts they would

love to contribute to that while they're here I think it's always good to

hear from them at the same time welcome to the hot seat thank you members of

the council mayor Tim let's director of health services for the county and

yeah I think that's a great question on on sobering sobering centers sober

living we actually through the behavioral health bridge housing program one of

the areas that we did augment was was sobering in fact a most I think if not all

of those facilities we added were in city and I appreciate we met with council

members whose districts those were in recognizing sometimes that the barrier

becomes a lot of those are are smaller more home style or condominium style

settings and that can be a challenge to bring them into neighborhoods I feel

like our our provider bridges in this case does a really good job working

within our communities we can always use more and part of it's just getting

enough people interested in doing it I'm putting in capacity dollars on the

behavioral health side that's that's definitely something that we've

continued to stay focused on on building out and again is that intersection of

prop 36 those are conversations also with the district attorney's office

perfect I would just love to see that potentially strengthened in some of the

partnerships we have especially if we are expanding our service of the

alternate model with our firefighters knowing that they can drop somebody off at

a sobering center and that and that center is not going to turn them away

because I also trust the the expertise of our firefighters to know where

somebody medically should be and now the argument with the sobering center the

way that we we see that happening so the program you're describing is our

triage alter destination program that we went live with in January our crisis

receiving behavioral health that is off downtown right next to the jail is one

of those drop off sites and we've specifically worked with well space health to

be able to connect into our our substance use treatment system so we would

probably still want them going to the crib if for no other reason then to get

the assessment of are they ready for sober living but definitely that's that's

the designer idea behind that triage alter destinations is get them to the to the

crib or our mental health treatment center don't let's not get them into jail

if it's law enforcement let's not get them into the emergency departments

thank you and I guess this is for the next time you guys come back for the

city county partnership I think more details on what's working and not working

with the sobering center or you guys can work on that on the four by four as you

come back but I think the alternate response model is something that kind of

like the next step as we look at the city county partnership how can we make

sure the fire department is included in their leadership in all of this you

know despite you having personal knowledge Brian bring in the leadership so

that we're all on the same page even Metro so there we have something as a

consistent message but thank you for that council member it's helpful to know

each each iteration of the report we add more more data elements now FSPs are

a standard piece happy to maybe build out some more around the substance use

treatment and metrics there also now that we have prop one prop 36 I think our

community is going to want to know how are we implementing what we currently

have it despite not necessarily having funding to go with the new obligations

fully what is it that we are doing to to try and address it as well as our

community is looking for alternative response models so what are we looking at

and how does the partnership agreement I guess mold into this this new new

era so that we can get people into shelter in off the streets so thank you

I appreciate that and I will just specifically call out before my next colleague

joins that the 40 thousand and 18 services for 2348 unique individuals does

relate to just over 17 touches per person so it is important to call that out

statistically of there's a lot of things that the city and county are doing to

try and help individuals and I want to see how we can we can make that more

successful you know I don't know what the answer is but I know you guys are doing a

lot and however we can do that to make those touches more successful and to the

next step of getting them off the streets is something I'm interested in

hearing more thank you council member maple

thank you mayor and thank you Brian for for the presentation I just really

want to acknowledge the amount of work that's gone in gone into this over the last

year or so and it's really been I know it's been hard work and I know it's been

challenging but we've also I think seen a lot of progress and that that shows up

in our numbers you know as the governor recently released a website that shows

the point time counts and how those numbers are across the state and Sacramento is

outperforming virtually every other county in terms of being able to get

people into services and to housing doesn't mean we've done enough absolutely not

we have a lot of work left to do but I think it's really important to acknowledge

the work that is done because we I know that you have people on your team and the

county has people on their team that are out every single day and these are

social workers these are health care workers these are people who are directly

engaging in encampments and talking with folks and trying to get them connected

to services so you know we're always under resource but I just want to acknowledge

that work because I it can be very thankless at times so I hope if anyone's

watching for many of those teams the heart team and others we see you out here

I have a couple specific questions and then just some comments one I know we have

we have folks from the Roseville road shelter here and I know that last week

several of us on just so you know several of us on the site I still reach out

and ask questions about the electricity and about about blankets and other

things that so I can you provide an update on that for for folks sure so when

we started that site we were trying to get that site up to get shelters up as

quick as possible and so with that we provided the pallet homes and the

trailers first before we brought in the infrastructure of electricity and we the

process to get electricity to a site is is effort in and of itself one of the

biggest things that slows that down bless you is providing the what is called

the switch gear or the transformer to provide the electricity to that many

individual sites and so the the the ordering backlog on that is four to six

months just to get that transformer so we decided that we would go with the

placement get people up the streets get them inside and continue the

process of providing electricity so with that it requires us to then get the

power source there and then get conduit to this individual sites and then pull

the electrical wire and actually hook up the site so we we did that and we got

the pallet homes wired with the trailers we have power to every trailer right

now but there is a safety factor involved in that these trailers have been

FEMA trailers that have been around with many people living in them at

different sites and so the safety concern that we had is we don't want to just

plug these trailers in and have some electrical wire short circuit outlet

something happen and catch the trailer on fire a trailer will go up very

quick if on on a small fire it will it will run that trailer instantly so

that was our concern so we went out to bid to get a contractor to look at our

trailers that process in itself we have to go through our city process bid

process so we did select someone they did go out there they inspected our

trailers a visual inspection the the cost to go through each trailer visually

inspect them upgrade them to put heating in the trailers because simply

pulling electrical to the trailer does not make the heater work the heater works

off of a separate system and so we do have to upgrade the system to make it an

electrical heater all of that said it's cost prohibitive to upgrade these

trailers they're they're easily towards the end of their life we have

currently on order a contract for 135 new homes tiny homes and we will be

replacing the trailers with those and then we will power those up and so there's

there was a lot of thought put into do we expend that money on a for a two

month three month period or just change them out for tiny homes so that's where

we're out in that process we there has been offers to have as many blankets as

you want we have offered like somebody said either movie into the day room

that has an HVAC system or into our office space there that also has a

climate controlled area and so with what we have to work with we've we've

done as much as we can for now that's really helpful just because I you know I

want to make sure that we have information on the public I know that we received

an email about that and many of people are wondering but you know it's

challenging when when we're trying to move quickly but we also don't have the

infrastructure in some of the places that we've identified it just takes a

long time and we know that we're working with our partners to write so we have to

go through not only a city process but also a smud process to make sure that

we're in line with them and all of the various projects that they have for

electrification so so I know that you're continuing to work on that and I

appreciate that I just want to thank my next question maybe more for the

county I'm wondering if you can talk about the care court implementation if

there's a status on that from the county's perspective and if that aligns with

our city county partnership

yes and I may phone a friend I have Nicole Cable here who I know was here with

you guys last week who also is implementing our care program I guess are

there specific questions that you have in terms of obviously we we implemented

December as of yesterday we had 21 actual petitions that that came into the

program so we are seeing a definitely a notable volume it seems to be trickling

about three-ish a week at this point and still early in that implementation to

really have a lot of meaningful data on longer-term outcomes we know that the

majority of the strongest majority of referrals are coming from family

members at this point that's really helpful so 21 thus far and then what is the

timeline typically look like right from the time that someone is first and

maybe this isn't a cool question if I'm a good Nicole person it's a petition to

win maybe someone's enters a program or receive some kind of treatment sure

that varies quite a bit the court process is obviously there's a lot of

different steps to it and it depends on whether the person is coming to us

through a petition process which starts at the court and then comes to our

team or if we're receiving referrals there are three kind of buckets of

referral sources including hospitals who may have somebody on an

involuntary hold our internal behavioral health program so such as our

heart team and other our co-response crisis intervention team we allow them to

make referrals to us so that they don't have to engage in that court process

and then the third is the courts there are certain specific courts that are

called out in the law that are able to make those referrals directly to our

behavioral health team so the processes are a little bit different with the

referrals we have two weeks to either file a petition with the court or come up

with a decision on whether they're appropriate for care and those ones some of

those 21 I believe five of those were ones that are County behavioral health

care team did file themselves and so we're contributing to that number the

rest as Tim let's said is most of them are coming from family members when they

come directly through that route the judge has primafacial review first and

then once he's completed that it comes to our team to do an investigation and

so from that point of investigation we then have 30 days to locate an

individual assess them get records anything that we need to really

substantiate the the petition and then we report back to the court and so

that's really where the individual gets enrolled into the program as they go

to that first initial hearing and at that point the judge rules on whether or

not they're appropriate the individual is assigned a public defender at the

time the behavioral health is assigned at the same time and so the at the same

time we are working on doing our investigation the public defender is also

meeting with the client finding out what their needs and wishes are and

really trying to engage collaboratively into the process.

Great thank you so much I really appreciate that and I know many of us here are

curious about the implementation so just appreciate the update and yes I would

happily take some pamphlets that we can keep on in our offices and pass out

to our constituents I really appreciate that so I'm just gonna make a I think

that's it for you thank you I'm just gonna make a few comments just high

level and I'll pass it on but one of the things that you know it's clear to me

as I mentioned at the top that we you know we're making progress it's gonna

take a lot of time it's gonna take resources and it's gonna take us working

together as we already are but in more in effective ways I know that you know

I believe and I've said this many times and I'll keep saying it I really think

that we collectively as a region our county and the cities within it including

the city of Sacramento really needs to take a long hard look at how we can

operate and govern ourselves on this issue in a much more formal way I think the

MOU is wonderful we've made leaps and bounds in terms of our relationship

working together with the city and the county together I think it's a

wonderful step forward but I think there is a lot that we need to do collectively

to work together and in a more formal role and I think that includes our

partners that includes Sacramento steps forward as many of you know Sacramento

steps forward was created as that regional planning and data body but really

it's not it's not a decision making body it doesn't have any elected officials

on the board it doesn't necessarily have a direct role in in policy and so that

creates sometimes a challenge for us where we have really great plans to get

created but not necessarily a very actionable way to make them into reality

and actually normally what happens is you have a lot of jurisdictions that are

independently making decisions and at least to silos and I know that's not

something that we want we talk about that a lot that we want to coordinate and

collaborate better together but the challenge is what is actually happening on

the ground is other than obviously our teams that are working together through

the MOU in the partnership agreement we're not necessarily having those

high-level conversations that I think we need to be having about how do we get to

zero what would it look like if we focused on women and children about them

off the street what would it look like if we focus on veterans for example those

conversations happen in a planning capacity but not necessarily the elected

capacity of us working together and I think of that scenario where we need to have

those conversations together with our county partners and frankly I believe

with the other cities that are also in our county I don't think we all have the

same role to play for example we want we are not all going to contribute the

same amount of resources depending on the size and the severity of the

population within those jurisdictions but I do think they all should be working

together and a much more formalized capacity so that's a request that I'm

going to have of us is that we take a look at that that we evaluate whether or

not the current system that we're working that we're working under makes

sense for the types of decisions that we need to be making and whether we should

be looking forward to a more formalized structure such as a joint powers authority

which about 15 years ago was originally discussed between the city and the

county when Sacramento South Florida was first created and never actually came to

fruition so I think that that's one area that we could look at I know that there

are other options the county of Sacramento did an analysis on unshared

governance models in 2023 I've read through that report I think that there's

some great work there that we can possibly take a look at but it's going to be

require us all meeting together and so I'd love to love to see that and I also

just want to know that this this also should combine with our work with SHRA as

well we know that we have our Sacramento housing redevelopment agency they've

got their housing action plan for a housing action plan that was a part of

that work but how do we incorporate all these things together and how do we

collectively make decisions as a region on homelessness and housing that align

with our data and the reports that we put out right now that's it's not really

happening and I would love to see that happen and so that those are some of my

comments I'd love to see better coordination I'd love us to go down that path

and have those conversations with the county and ourselves thank you thank you

councilmember Dickinson thanks mayor and thanks very much for the presentation

I want to start by following on from some of the earlier exchanges

since your presentation Brian and maybe beginning with Roseville Roseville

Road and in particular and I appreciate the description of what is being done

to try to upgrade the conditions at Roseville Road besides those we know we

obviously have safety issues with respect to transportation and access and

some frustration with trying to create that connection between particularly

light rail and the and the Roseville Road facility so maybe you want to say a

word about where we stand with respect to to realizing a more direct

connection for people at the facility to get to and from light rail sure so when

we initially looked at exit out of the facility we looked at the east side which

is the most direct route out of Roseville Road to the RT station we

disimproliminary walks and actually put a gate in a pedestrian gate in that

backside and as we went down the road with that and started talking to

cal trans about the possibilities they had concerns because it's actually an

off-ramp the very tail end of an off-ramp but it is an off-ramp and so in

discussions with them they had can safety concerns to the to the degree of

putting up fencing barriers extensive safety measures to make that exit out

that backside because of that exit so the requirements there ended up being much

bigger than we would have anticipated from the initial conversations so what

we did is on the south side facing Roseville Road there is a south gate down

there that we have opened up and it has a very large area once you get out of

the gate before you're even accessing Roseville Road which gives you a walkway

south into the RT area without having to be close to the road so that is

initially what we have we are working on another pedestrian access fence to

run down the front side of Roseville Road so that you have space from the road

and using some of the facility itself to make a pedestrian way to get in and

out of the facility. I mean you might even be able to employ some like a Jersey

barrier to separate the travel lane from pedestrian lane short of a full-fledged

fence something something would be easier to to get and install. We've talked to

public works has a project of putting our gray all along Roseville Road that

we've talked about and so there is some other barriers that we have discussed.

I mean obviously they're Jersey barriers along the side of the road in certain

places along Auburn and Roseville Road not so much for pedestrian safety but

to prevent people from parking and walking in in ways that would be unsafe but

I think the sooner we can create some sort of safer access that exists now

the better. I wanted to ask you about the you mentioned 135 tiny homes that are

on order and those are being paid for out of the grant that came from the

state last year or these in addition to. Those 135 are the in-campurn resolution

fund grant that was for the Northern bike trail. Yeah so it had been my

impression that we were going to expand the capacity of Roseville Road's

facility by that 135 but from what you said it sounds like if they're

replacing trailers that we're going to have something significantly less in

terms of net growth of the facility and accommodations. So what does that

turn out to be Brian? So the grant was actually written to be at least a hundred

hundred more tiny homes and because I'm cheap for lack of better terms

renegotiated the purchase price of our pallet homes from down from 13,000 to

10,000 which allowed us more to buy the extra 35 so those 35 will be used to

backfill the trailers will still be meeting our 100 and there's there's a

little bit of funding in there to expand on that a little further but we're

meeting the ERF in expanding that and a lot of it at least a hundred more

tiny homes on the site and those will all be connected to to power as they go

in. Correct so we've already ordered the these switch gear the transformer

we're getting that going we have been ordered to make sure that we're not that's

not our hold up we are going to add these a little bit differently to where

we're setting the homes bringing in the power to them and then bringing

individuals in so that we're not trying to power them up with running conduit

and pulling wire while people are living in them. So yeah I think it's

certainly would be desirable to have them in functioning a full functioning

condition when people do move in so we avoid this mismatch that and I understood

at the time and I understand now what you said earlier that the decision was

made to try to get people in under under a roof rather than wait and and have the

full-fledged operation which would have been as we have seen months and months at

least so I understand that that decision. I want let me move on for a moment I

want to pick up on this issue of sobering centers for a moment and of course as

you and I were talking earlier today so the sobering centers are not

something new to Sacramento County we were talking about at least my

recollection was volunteers of America operated a sobering up location in

the river district for for many many years and so this is really the

continuation of or at least the return if not the continuation of of a

modality that's been around for a while but what I wanted to to explore just for

a moment with you was you know the concept of housing first was developed for a

number of reasons but one of them was to allow people who had some form of

of addiction could be alcohol could be drugs to actually rather than going to

some congregate location or or non-home location to have a place to go and one

of the strengths of housing first and many of its early incarnations was that

those who might drink more than they should and sometimes repeatedly wouldn't

end up going someplace and drying out for 48 hours or 72 hours and then back on

the street which was often the case and that's what we experienced as I recall

with the VOA site but rather would have a an apartment a room somewhere they

could go and then they had that that roof on an ongoing basis so I am

just curious in the current realm what kind of experience are we seeing with

the those who show up at the sobering centers such as the crib and to what

extent are we employing a housing first approach to address the kind of

circumstance that I've described to Tim do we have anybody that can speak on

that because this well spaces run in the crib yeah well space does run the

crib and I think there's a lot to unpack in that question and I think what

you're describing and I was texting back and forth to try and make sure

understand I think you're describing some of the detox beds that used to be

available yeah versus typically like that the sober the sober living facilities

that we have are typically going to be a longer term placement so they're not

going to be you know a few days the detox environment was where you had people

that would yeah detoxify but then limited stay be released what what we're

hoping to address with the crib was was what I described which is we see the

crib as a as a front door to a lot of our our services so they come into the

crib they're able to detox and then well space has access to beds across our

substance use treatment spectrum so residential treatment sober living those

types of placements I mean I pardon me for interrupting for a moment but but what

we saw it to the best of my recollection was the same thing the idea was you went

to V.O.A. you you you dried out the effort was then to move a person into a

longer term circumstance where their condition was being addressed whether

it was alcohol generally it was alcoholism at that time but I drug as well but

the percentage of people who did that who said yes I will take that next step

was pretty low and so you ended up with people dry out but then going back on

the street and so my question is the extent that you're able to address it is

is that a similar experience that we have have now that where most people don't

take that next step but rather just say thanks very much see you I'm going back

to wherever I can't give you details on that I apologize happy to wasn't

anticipating that heavier substance use treatment questions today because I

would bring our our subty manager along I will say generally what what I hear

from our teams is especially with substance use treatment it really is

something that it it's important to find the right time for somebody to be

ready to engage in treatment one of the challenges that we've had which is why

we're trying this model with with the crib is the worst case is somebody's

ready for treatment and we don't have a spot for them and that's that's the

situation that we're running into and so we're trying to make sure then that when

that person is ready we have a spot for them and we want to help them on

their journey to success I actually I really appreciate your response and to

the extent that we have some data the city and the county primarily the county

I'm sure on what is happening to those who come to the subring center I'd be

interested I think that would be educational for all of us to see whether we're

simply a palliative for the moment or are we actually using that as a as a

means to to to meaningfully and I agree with you people have to be ready to make

to take that next step and is how well are we doing in that regard I'd really

be interested in that but but you also your comment leads me to the next area

that I wanted to ask a little bit about and it comes again from some of the

exchange with councilmember maple and I'm curious if if you have a feel for

this yet and maybe too soon maybe too early but when do we reach the point if

you think we ever do that that those who are being directed involuntarily into

treatment start to displace those who are seeking treatment voluntarily yeah I

I think that's a really tough question particularly when you're talking

substance use treatment right now there is no category of locked

substance use treatment facility so I think we are definitely a ways before we

would contemplate that and and realistically we need we know our focus as we

want people to be voluntarily coming into treatment working with wall space

health we have nearly 200 substance use treatment beds that are being built out

at the Stockton campus and and our focus there has been voluntary that being

said we have this intersection of prop 36 and what we want on on the behavioral

health side is let's that's where we we know we have opportunities where they're

going through diversion programs and link them into treatment with an

opportunity to to get their charges reduced on or dismissed for going into

treatment I think when when we talk about forms of involuntary I think that's

that's an area that we're trying to develop our services run we can support

efforts that are happening yeah and I don't I mean I don't want to go too far down

this because we had a prop 36 presentation last week but whether it's

care court or SB 43 or prop 36 to the extent and I'm using involuntary when

someone says yes I'll enter into diversion program I don't consider that

completely voluntary so I mean it's but without without semantics if if someone

is being told get treatment or you're going to jail or they're being told

you're going to treatment through care quarter SB 43 or other means

those are people who presumably are not in a state of mind where they would say

hey I'd love treatment I mean there I won't say it's coerced

necessarily I think that that's probably an unfair implication but but they're

being given a choice which is not necessarily a choice they would like to make

and I'm I'm curious and maybe this is for some additional homework is to figure out

when to people that we start that we're directing to treatment through one of these

portals or another start to displace people who want it who want treatment voluntarily and

and when does our capacity run out if the state doesn't put any money into prop 36 additional

treatment resources because obviously the governor put no money in the budget for that

I don't think you can assume that the legislature will add money they may I mean

that they may they may well do that but if we if we got no money from the state for additional

treatment slots when when when do these things collide between voluntary and involuntary?

Fortunately with with our reimbursement this is the one area that that we're not on the

behavioral health side concerned about there is we know whether it's in voluntary through prop 36

or voluntary through our normal treatment we have the funding to pay for the beds and that'll

continue even if it grows what our challenges as a capacity limitation it takes a lot of money

to build a facility and years to do it I know the the well space campus is you know three four

years in development so it's really having the facility that can that can take people and are

willing to serve serve the medical population that we serve with behavioral health well that that's

that's a that's a hopeful response thank you thank you for that I'm going to let you give

way to Brian and I'll ask him a couple of questions where thank you Brian can you can you can

you bring the chart back up that showed the the services the outreach services I just wanted to

ask a question or two about it yeah yeah there you go so council council member Kaplan put it

in a slightly different way but am I looking at this I I thought for the general case management

that there was an average of two to three touches per excuse me per unduplicated individuals

and I'm curious about the if you could expand a little bit on the nature and extent of what

case management means in in this context because it to me it usually means a continuing

interaction or relationship with a person to help them progress to a state where they are

able either to move into the back into the mainstream or into permanent support of housing

at least somewhere along on a continuum can you talk a little bit more about about what this

24,458 represents in connection with the 2348 unduplicated individuals sure so there's various levels

of case management most of these that are out in the outreach arena are light touch case management

and and that's why you see so many here there's the balance of how much case management

time effort and and there's the cost to it because the time that we have an outreach worker spending

with one individual providing case management we can do intensive case management on a smaller

number of people or light touch case management and stay in touch with a larger number of people

and so most of this is the lighter touch and just staying in contact with people

we don't have the bandwidth and we don't have the funding to do heavy case management in the street

and and so that's that's where you're looking at a higher number with a lighter touch

and so that leaves me to wonder about about the utility generally of or meaningfulness of

of this because I think it's fairly commonly thought you you need probably to have 10 to 15

contacts with someone who's out on the street before they you build enough trust with them that

they will say yes when you offer them housing or services and so I wonder some further delineation

of whether you know what what the maximum number of contacts under this category with with someone

was the minimum I assume the minimum is one probably but where is that or where that median is

would be I think more helpful to understand are we in that light touch really not accomplishing

what we would like to or are we with a certain number of cases having enough touches that

we're actually persuading people to to take advantage of shelter and housing excuse me shelter

and services assuming they're available so there's there's a lot to that question right so every

individual is different out there you can go up to talk to somebody and on the first time they're

like yes I'm ready to go it all leads back to capacity do we have the capacity to tell the

individual we have housing for them or shelter space or something available I total speculation

but I'm telling you that my guess would be that number would be much lower of touches if we

you know on touch one two three somewhere lower down the line we continue to tell them we have

shelter available for them and we would there would be three touches this average would go down

I think these are continuous touches because we don't have the capacity to actually provide

the true base need of getting someone off the street yeah I mean I suspect you're absolutely

right and you know we're trying to figure out what works and how much it takes to get something to

work to help somebody off the off the street and that's why I'm looking for a little bit more

not not today necessarily a bit a greater level of refinement so as you go into the months ahead

thinking about how how you might assess that and I just make a general comment which I I've

made on a couple other vacations about the need to track those those were trying to assist and

those were assisting obviously the the state is as interested in in what are out measurable outcomes

that public understandably has as a very legitimate interest in measurable outcomes and I think we've

gotten better I applaud what you're what you're doing in that regard but I think we we've got

a ways to go before we can really say with confidence here's here's what we're here we're helping

ex number of people and six months later they're housed a year later they're housed I'm having said

that I understand the challenges of doing that but I think we have to we have to do the best we can

in that respect I did want to say just a couple of quick things that one of which your chart on

training I think that's great I am a huge advocate of cross training personnel and this is not

exactly cross training but it's an to me it's an analog to it where the where the city staff is

working with the county staff and others involved to understand multiple functions and perspectives

which I think helps just help some do their job better and it makes us more effective and efficient

and doing that so for me that gets a big gold star and I hope and I hope they'll they'll be more

and the last thing mayor that I just want to say today which isn't so much involved in this

discussion but for me is is still a guiding principle is and I hope we can address this to some extent

perhaps in the budget process is to get to the more to the prevention side we're not talking about

so much prevention today but on from my perspective until we do a better job of preventing homelessness

we're never going to however you define solving homelessness we're not going to solve it so I hope

we can have that discussion in the months a month ahead about how in a in a broader context we're

using our resources across the different elements of the homelessness assistance continuum

thanks thanks mayor thank you vice mayor telematis

councilmember Dickinson 100 percent agree prevention is the most cost effective strategy to prevent

homelessness and I think we've seen documentation of it and s hary has presented you know presented

on it and it's something that we got to continue focusing on because we're going to prevent people

from becoming homeless in the first place that's going to help us with the waterfall and being

able to draw down resources so I do have a question so on the report as of the end of December 2024

the total capacity in FSP programs was 2007 here in 58 from July to December 2024 the FSP served

2631 95 percent of total capacity and duplicate individuals and so I know on the slide it says if county FSP

is full slots will be added so one is it full I think it's probably a question for the county one is

it full and then two if it is then what triggers like the next step to open more FSP's so yeah the FSP's

we will continue to expand as they fill up it it's not full at this point we do amendments to our

contract so we have a we in the county we do pooled contracts with our providers we would increase

the contract amount to that provider to to account for the number of additional slots that we

would add for those programs so we do break it down by like there's FSP's for adults for justice

involved for youth so we split those out so there are different provider contracts but we would

just increase that amount got so the county has capacity right now yes and so okay so I think

keep us posted for a department of community response you know if I mean we're helping and we're

working with the county how do we fill up all those slots so that we can continue helping more people

yeah and and I I know that's something even with I will say with prop one we're looking at a revamp of

our FSP program there are some models that we look at like a tiered program kind of a an FSP

light and then a full scope FSP that we're exploring I think council member maple mentioned the

state's transparency portal if you look at the number of FSP slots Sacramento actually has

some of the most in the state even before factoring in adjustments for population and so we feel that

the number of FSP slots we have is is is pretty good but again if we see an increase in in need we

definitely make those adjustments but also recognizing just because someone's not an FSP they

still have access to housing support dollars they're still able to access case management services

substance use behavior health services so it really does track down to the needs of that

particular individual whether an FSP is appropriate and and I do want to acknowledge the county has

its hands full with the implementation of care core senate bill 43 prop 36 and just the different

programs that you guys have so I do want to acknowledge you and you're saying that it's never

stolen behavioral health that you're working on and I know our city attorney's office has filed

a few care court petitions and so we're waiting to three yeah so we're waiting to hear back well

actually we're not going to hear back so just for everyone here like once the city attorney's office

submits those petitions it gets sent to the courts and then we don't hear back and we're not in the

loop of that correct city attorney okay so I don't know if there's a way for the county to support

us in this so that we can figure out what that process looks like it might even be out of your

hands I'm not here let me explore that because I part of its privacy issue like given when

board members asked me for a status update sometimes I'll give them aggregate information as opposed to

specific information about that individual unless there's a release of information yeah

but I'll go back to my team to see if there's a way we can at least provide any updates on

in aggregate of the ones that you've submitted kind of where they what the disposition was yeah

if I may count some of them I think we're really looking at public information available based

on the court proceedings yeah yeah that'd be wonderful just because I know our department of

community response or police department fire department they know who the frequent users of

our emergency rooms are like they know who is in need of support services and so for us to

figure out what's the best process for us to navigate this would be incredibly helpful whatever

information you can share with our city attorney and DCR I think would be would be great for us as

we move forward on these policies and then I do have a question probably for you or miss how come

the county how is it going to be using the rest of the 5.6 million that former assembly member

now mayor McCarty allocated to the county.

Good afternoon Emily Hallicann director of the Department of Homeless Services and Housing

with Sacramento County and so we went we've gone back to the board and it's been fully allocated

about four weeks after the meeting that you attended council member telemonties we went back

the balance was allocated to three projects one was the Joshua's House project the second one was

the Watt Avenue campus that were under construction now and the balance and recognition of sort of

budget shortfalls and dependency on one time funding we decided to commit to ongoing operations

of some of the programs that had previously been committed and I sent a summary to the mayor staff

and I apologize I'm happy to send it to you as well if that would be helpful of all the activities

that have been funded yeah that'd be incredibly helpful I'll do that what I did was different so

I just I mean keeping the loop and having the city and county truly be a partnership is so

important you know homeless this is impacting all of us so if you can send me that memo I'd

greatly appreciate it I'll do that and that's about it okay thank you and I just want to note that

this partnership agreement is a starting point it's a foundation but it's not good enough for the

general public we got to continue doing more we got to continue pushing for more and we got to

continue working together collectively as partners whether it's the city and the county leadership

SHRA sacks steps forward anyone and everyone that touches homelessness needs to be engaged in

these conversations because that's what the public expects from us like council member maple she

screams and shouts it we need a JPA a joint powers authority and I'm 100% in line with that because

homelessness is everyone's issue it's everyone's number one issue in the Sacramento region and people

don't know lines it's just struck this county property here people don't know that people move

around Sacramento and expect us to work together so we as government leaders need to do better on

that and I think doing a joint powers authority is so important and something that I look forward

as supporting and continuing to scream and shout to support my colleague on that and I do want to

know that the city of Sacramento is in the county limits and so I'm happy that we're working together

and we're going to continue providing services to people here we have a budget deficit here at the

city of Sacramento we're getting less and half funds and so that is important and I mean it's

detrimental to the city and I don't want to be able to like I don't want to have to start stop

supporting homeless programs because of the lack of funding that we have and so I look forward

to seeing how we work together to navigate that whether it's us applying for counting dollars

working with the county to help supplement some of these programs we we need to sustain our budget

but also help people at the same time thank you thank you mayor pro tem gara

great thank you very much mayor first you know I wanted to extend my gratitude to brine and

his team and also our county partners on the progress that we've made and and what we are today

in the in the working relationship between the city and the county one I can't I don't disagree

at all and I do believe that a more formalized process is is important because homelessness and

the effect of homelessness particularly for those that have of us who have districts that are

in between city and county and another city jurisdiction see those effects and in the housing

issue is also a regional issue as well so it's not a jurisdictional issue but it's a regional issue

but I will say that you know the and I agree if we can get a joint powers authority put together

that would be that would I think help that way but the only two ways frankly that you can do

that is through voluntary agreement between other jurisdictions or the legislature imposing that

on us and I think that if the only way we're going to achieve that is by the success of the city

and counties partnership agreement when other folks see another jurisdiction see that we actually

have made a significant effect then we're actually going to be able to move in that process either

through the MOU process to be a created JPA or through the legislative process to impose a JPA

one or the other and so that brings me to I think this point here that this is a legally binding

agreement it's a five-year agreement and that this council and the county voted on with the option

to reauthorize for another five years and so we're at the beginning of year three on this

and I and I have to say that I you know that where we are right now is is very positive I think

there were a lot of pessimists on year one when we first started whether this would even last a year

and where we are today we've learned a lot we've all of us have to also recognized where our

strengths and our weaknesses are as a jurisdiction and that's helped us better real line how

how we look at providing the best service I mean I recall the the very

vocal disagreement about how we should introduce behavioral services and what we've learned

and our strategy of being able to house people and then meet them at the at the at a place where

the accessibility and introduce behavioral services has been much far much more productive than

was when we were going to encampment after encampment and trying to track people who needed that

help and support down so I think that's the the benefit there but we are at year three and I feel

I feel very you know optimistic about our ability to to do more with this partnership and so I

I wouldn't hope that you know our council and the county look at revisiting these points some of

these points are very outdated in the last two years because we had a different point of view at

that time I think there are assumptions were different at that time and our budget assumptions

are also different today as well so I do think that one thing that I'd like to make sure that

the city and the county do is go back through on these points and start re-evaluating our benchmark

goals and so if we looked at the training section we went from yellow and that remember when we had

red dots red dots to yellow to green dots now that we're at green dots we should be thinking about okay

how do we move back do let's reevaluate if is that a is that an a valued point in today's or should

we reevaluate those benchmarks for our agreement you know the there's no question that I think you

know councilmember Dickinson brought it up here that this this allowed us to do a lot more cross

training allowed us to better find methods to coordinate together and and I think the those

pieces should be highlighted and and elevated more because for a long time there was there was

definitely a lot more finger pointing on both sides on on this issue and now there's an acknowledgement

of things saying look we we have valid concerns for each other's responsibility but what is the best

tool to make us help us move forward one of the key things that I do want to dive in deeper and if

not then I'd like to make sure that you know Mr. Mayor that we at least express our concern when

the care court comes back for evaluation at the legislature is is the ability for petitioners

accountability and since the city can be a petitioner that we should have the ability to to be

able to know or track at least the progress of that petition on the care courts and that's less

of the partnership agreement on back to on to the the partnership agreement for the the case of

sub so bring centers I'm glad that we're working well on the on the well space campus as a as a

place but early on in the discussion we had this we had brought up we said let's let's make sure we

address establishing a a very reliable sobering center in the city limits and that's in the

partnership agreement that we wanted one within the city limits but I do remember the conversation

occurring about another sobering center or other sobering centers in the county and particularly

on the east end of the county and and the comment was made during the meeting that you know we

shouldn't have a scenario where someone in full sum or orange veil is transported to downtown

Sacramento when they're in when they're being in the need of a sobering center and so maybe that

that is a question for us to dive into what how the county is looking at those those needs because

I'm sure there are folks on the east end of the county that that would mean those services the

the other piece I think that's see that was this accountability on that piece a lot of look a

lot of my comments actually were asked our questions were put up by the the my colleagues here I

will say that the next piece that I'd like to make sure is as we get an understanding or SB 43

and capacity is going to affect us I think councilmember Dickinson brought that up I'm making

sure what how the city is going to execute it's authority under SB 43 and then finally

the I think the the bigger concern that we that I I worry about which I mentioned earlier was

if have funding is going to shift or change and I know we don't know that conversation until

June or the budget happens but we should be very engaged as as a united city and county on if

we're going to if we're going to be showing progress and we want other cities to to join in on this

if there is any skepticism on the ability to actually execute these programs then then that's

going to affect our ability to have other partners because the goal should be is that every city

join in into this same legally binding agreement whether it's through a joint powers authority whether

it's through a legal MOU as in this case but I my worry here is that we need to be much more

vocal about making sure that if we're going to have these successful that they're that they're

financially successful lastly one of the key things and I want to highlight again I agree on

the prevention side now the prevention side happens by addressing the housing issue and one of the

key things that the partnership agreement was the beginning conversation on the on the affordable

housing side and that's been the responsibility of our housing authority and so making sure that

on the partnership agreement the evolution of what our expectation is on prevention needs to be

now worked out and be a much more a bigger point I think the urgency in the development of the

agreement was addressing the significantly high number of large encampments of people who

needed services and I think that this is a time for us not to be re-evaluating all of those

pieces in the agreement to have a better outcome so those are some thoughts there Mayor and I just

appreciate everyone's diligent work and working together and evolving together on on what is

successful and what isn't and and acknowledging those those those practices that probably weren't

as helpful so thank you Mr. Mayor. Thank you council member I have some comments in some direction

I don't have any questions but I guess the big picture is thank you for for the update in the report

so clearly the the number one issue that the people of Sacramento want us to address is homelessness

no matter where I've gone is as mayor for the past three months or for the past year in the

campaign this was clearly the number one issue wherever I was and one of the key issues to address

this was more cooperation and the public realizes that these issues don't have boundaries city

nor county so all levels of government but especially the city and the county they saw too much

finger pointing so I want to applaud the council and our and our prior mayor for working with the

county and coming up with ideas how we can work together because at the end of the day where we're

all in these issues together so with that you know certainly we've had extensive touches it's

mind boggling as council members Dickinson maple and Kaplan mentioned the amount of touches that

you've made versus the amount of people that we have in the system so it sounds like we almost

have a real life point in time count with a census as far as who's there and maybe not everybody but

you know having individuals 2000 plus and 17 touches per we we know who a lot of these people are

especially the ones who most interact with with our city programs so that leads to the real issue

is where do people go you know where do people go so one thing I do want to highlight is since the

city and the county started talking about this you know we've opened a thousand more bets with the

city and county combined so we've we've opened roughly 300 in the past several months we're

on track to open 300 more with the hundred in Roseville Road plus the additional capacity

it in Stockton Boulevard so I think that that that's a positive notion you know with that we

certainly have a lot to do more cooperation is key 900% concur with what council member maple

talked about having structured opportunities for us to talk together not just us in the county I

think it's you know Elgrove rancher could over other jurisdictions because these issues don't have

boundaries I stood by the idea to create this through legislation last year the issue doesn't go

away I know there are other ideas we're going to start having structured conversations with county

board of supervisors and council members on this and with that one idea that I want to direct

staff with is we haven't really talked about too much tonight is SHRA that's a body that we all

serve on together I know that the county has some ideas as far as what the future of this looks like

they're going to discuss this this week or next week or very soon so I think it's a timely topic how

we work better on the two issues housing and homelessness which are tied together tied together so

I'd like to you know direct city staff to better work with the county and the city in talking about

you know new approaches and coordinate ways and and a review of the structure function and role

of SHRA how it relates to housing and homelessness and they can include but not be limited to

programs at SHRA Curly and ministers funding that comes down from the state federal and even our

local money certainly our vouchers and public housing are our piece of the puzzle and those are

key to addressing housing homelessness but just wanted to give a direction there I also I appreciate

that we jump in a little bit about this every week a bit more but we're not all there yet so on

the budget we started talking about this with the update for HAP when we talked about the

streets to housing program in district two on the northern park northern bike parkway we talked

a bit about this but I would like to have a more comprehensive approach so I'm going to

agenda is a full discussion on this in the coming weeks about homelessness and what we are doing

so really focus on three issues number one where where we are we're at certainly we can have

sacramas steps forward give us and their latest briefing on the point in time count as far as

the numbers and kind of what you've done week after week mr. Peejo is tell us what we're doing

what were the sites that we have on on online right now that roughly 1600 including the 600 new ones

where the money comes from who are nonprofit partners are that provide services at these sites just

lay it out there what are we doing today and then the number three thing the most important piece

of that discussion item is where do we go from here I know you've touched on this multiple times

as how you said you're trying to be a little bit cheap less as important you're you know this is

our money our taxpayer money how do we be more efficient and effective and we know we've asked our

auditor to come up with some findings to analyze which programs have the biggest results some have

60 percent success rate some have 30 so which ones are working and come back with ideas as far as

how we can double down on the ones that provide the biggest outcome but also how we can prioritize

and maximize our dollar because we need to stretch it a bit further so that will be coming in a

few weeks I did want to note that we we had multiple comments and mr. Dickinson alluded to this

on the Roseville roadside it's certainly in your district but it's a site for the entire city of

Sacramento so I've been out there I've seen firsthand the issues and so I know that you are

working on a better access route for people to leave the property because literally the light

rail station you can literally throw a rock to it from the backfets and to walk around doesn't

seem logical and and I know that we're just about there to having a more direct route even

know we can't go through the Cal Trans property on the back and I think you kind of said this by

just want to reiterate that those the RVs that we got during the 2020 during COVID that we had at

Cal Expo I was there when the state unveiled them and we had people being in them for a temporary

basis and then they sat in the courtyard up north for a couple years and so they're out there

they're in their lifeline and what you're saying is we're going to phase those out and put in

the modular tiny homes which I saw firsthand which people appreciate more more dignity for individuals

to store their store their stuff work better than the congregate places and I think is the right

way so in the number of months you're going to swap out those RVs and having more permanent

tiny homes which are more practical for us and more beneficial to the residents out there so thank

you for that for that update and then lastly I just wanted to counsel in the public to know that

Mr. Pedro is a very humble individual but he's excited to announce that after 41 years this weekend

he's retiring from his military service with the United States government and the Air Force and so

be able to dedicate even more time to the issue of the day so thank you for your service

thank you for your service and you're doing a great job and we look forward to your continued

effort on behalf of the City of Sacramento and literally addressing the issue of the day

you know you're an anonymous to most people in the City of Sacramento but if you ask the people

of Sacramento what's one issue they want progress on to make it better not worse but to have real

progress this is the issue and so you're the person behind the scenes helping make it happen so

we're counting on you thank you thank you and with that this is a receive and file we have one more

council member to punch up Mr. Puckett. Thank you Mr. Mayor so to go to order two quick things

one I just want to say thank you both to the county staff and the city staff for being here today

I think one of the things that hasn't gotten well reported over the years that we've been

you know building this partnership is just how productive and positive the working relationship

it is between city and county staff and I just wanted to say thank you again for everything that

you're all doing to serve all of our citizens and then I wanted to echo the mayor's comment about

the need to identify opportunities to build more affordable housing obviously that's a key area

of opportunities so if there's anything that we can do to improve or enhance or change our

governance model around that I'm very much interested in supporting that direction and working

in that direction thank you. Okay thank you that was a receive and file item next item.

Next item is item 16 Sacramento Valley Station Governance Operations Preliminary Recommendations.

All right good afternoon member Cardi and members of the City Council I'm Lucinda Wilcox this is

the Public Works Director and we're here today to talk about the next steps for the Sacramento

Valley Station and a few of you might recall that about 20 years ago this facility was in

serious trouble it was still owned by Union Pacific the station was in serious disrepair

didn't have heating didn't have cooling didn't have fire suppression a lot of it was blocked

off from public access and passenger rail was in was really suffering and the region came together

and took action and through that action the city was able to purchase about 38 acres of land

which included this facility and by leveraging our measure eight dollars we have invested hundreds

of millions of dollars in infrastructure and renovation efforts at the facility and the surrounding

district and passenger rail is doing a lot better it's really serving hundreds of thousands of

trips and this is really truly a regional facility but at this point with the crisis averted

the facilities kind of gotten out of people's minds but we feel that we're really at a crossroads

again and to continue the evolution and realize the opportunity of this facility we think we need

to take some additional steps some here I want to introduce Greg Taylor who's our architect

who's been managing the project and has been instrumental in both increasing operations the station

by working with our partners and bringing in a tremendous amount of grant funds to support our efforts.

Thank you Lucinda. Mayor and council members thank you for this opportunity to brief you

on our progress and evaluating governance options for the Sacramento Valley station. The station is

at a crossroads and as Lucinda said it's really on the threshold in its development potential as

the city and regional asset having the right governance structure will be critical to its future

success. Before we get into the the governance propositions that we want to bring before you I'd

like to give a begin with a brief background on what the city is accomplished and through the city's

leadership has transformed the station to one of the most successful rail stations in the west.

Going back as early as 1996 the city led the vision for what the station could become with the

capital quarter joint powers board regional transit and union Pacific railroad the city drafted

a report that outlined the objectives to redefine the historic station as a true intermodal station.

In the early 2000s preliminary planning began for the site and when when the first county measure

A was approved by the voters the measure specified funding for the Sacramento intermodal transportation

facility. In 2006 coinciding with the city's acquisition of the station from the railroad and

MOU between the county and sacr t to quote demonstrating the commitment and partnership was signed.

Also in this year the city embarked on a 11 year two phase improvement plan for over 130

million dollars of new improvements and station renovation. And now more closer to our current date

in 2020 the benefits of a four year process to develop this the Sacramento Valley station area plan

that went before council in 2021 the city has received a total of 77 million dollars in four

consecutive rounds of the transit and intercity rail capital program sponsored by Calsta known as

Tercipp through partner applications with the capital quarter JPA. So I just have a couple slides

here on these projects past projects to familiarize yourself for the public what has been accomplished.

Phase one the track relocation of 82 and a half million dollars moved the rail track facilities

built new new passenger facilities improved safety by separating the tracks from

the passengers by the underground tunnel and improved overall rail operations that concluded in

2012. Overlapping with that in 2012 through 2017 we focus on what we as defined as phase two to

renovate the station these are I'll have two slides here on the before and afters of the station

which transform the station into a full functioning center for Amtrak and also brought

least space to the city and also some small retail opportunities on the ground floor.

And here's the interior and maybe of many of you have seen the interior

main way to room there on the lower right. So the station as I mentioned is one of the highest

performing in the nation locally on the capital corridor the station out performs the two

next highest and Davis and Emoryville by factored more than two to one. This year they're expecting

to be close to a million passengers. Capital corridor and the San Joaquin's which both serve the

station are ranked four and six nationwide and behind the Pacific surf liner in Southern California

ranked number one for all the state supported services. And overall the station is ranked the

levantth highest Amtrak ridership in the US as of 2023.

Plan service expansions in 2025 include for the capital corridor increasing four additional trains

in the San Joaquin at two additional trains coming this year. And all this is in the context of

what we are here locally building with our new athletic events opportunities the central shops

entertainment and the rail yards that will bring local place making and opportunities for

people to come to the to the local downtown region but also expand access into the Bay Area

and Central Valley through these commuter operations. And this slide I think really captures that

potential where the the SVS as we call it the Sacramento Valley station sits in the middle of all these

just amazing and development opportunities in creating the city around. We're really uniquely

position nationwide to have the ability to create a new expanded station within the area of

a currently developing Brownfield site that doesn't happen everywhere in this country and it's

real opportunity that we have and also the connections to the to our adjacent important districts

around the site. So our preliminary recommendations that would like to take before you

has come with the work over the past year with our consultant team of WSP and city staff through

committees that are formed a meeting on monthly basis to bring you these preliminary recommendations.

But first we should just ask the question why look at governance. The city while the city has been

very successful has demonstrated in delivering these first two large capital improvements. The

third phase is unique challenge. The focus of the third phase is to greatly expand the transit

operations integrated with land development. At present however the city is struggling to keep up

with the current operations and maintenance of the current station. We've had great success in

capital improvements. Our operations funding is another matter it's been a struggle. The city

does not have direct access to rail and transit funds. The $77 million in state funds was made

only possible through the partnership with the capital corridor and that future opportunities

have limitations going forward. City taxpayers through the general fund covers a majority of the

operations and maintenance of the station today for what is a regional facility. Current measure

A does not cover operations funding. And we have found that through our research other entities

other governing agencies that have a single focus on the station are geared and set up for more

success. So with a structure that is focused on the station that can be singly focused on the

new station new opportunities can present themselves. Our research found that focused governance

structures are more agile and risk secure funding for multiple sources and do not rely solely

on grants but engage the private sector and find a broader source of revenue sources.

Their independence can leverage opportunities beyond what the municipal model can deliver.

The other driving point was the need for a structure that had a singular focus on building a

transit oriented district where the ability to leverage public private developments towards funding.

The operations and maintenance of the transit oriented district can it is paramount.

So the area plan to the governance plan of that model that we had had a mission and that was

defined as creating a governance structure that can achieve a vision of the facility and district

as a regional asset. The goals are that it is a place for people it is vibrant that there is an

experience that also connects that is an experience and an of itself and that it also connects people

to the events and activities in the rail yard, stoka, waterfront and all those surrounding

activity areas. And that is a mobility hub that promotes increasing equality in transportation

connecting people throughout the Sacramento region in northern California.

So this is the area that would be under the governance within the Sacramento area plan

and the transit facilities that are located in the plan are shown in purple. The yellow

are development opportunities set forth in the plan and public open space outline there in green.

We looked at a number of case studies throughout the country, stations larger and some

smaller about the size of our own. And what we found is that no other city,

municipality manages a major regional transportation facility like this on its own.

And it therefore relies on partner agencies that best fit the particulars of each station.

This ranges from dedicated county authorities to transit oriented JPAs, nonprofits and transit

agencies in and of themselves. Working through a series of workshop,

society staff, we identified two baseline assumptions of independence and a need for partners

which the government structure should meet. These three alternatives that we show here met those

thresholds. They are not meant to be mutually exclusive. They could transition from one entity

to another. And also multiple entities could coexist and serve specific purposes.

Consensus for a special district as the strongest model, consensus, excuse me, was for a special

district as the strongest model, but it relies on that does require a lot of dedicated effort to

set up and implement. The nonprofit corporation provides the most flexibility and can be form

relatively quickly and be in the independent face of the district. The JPA as a lead structure

would not accomplish all of our objectives but could coexist under the nonprofit for specific

purposes if needed. So examples include Washington DC station is governed by a nonprofit structure.

Denver Union station used a nonprofit to great success in its early formation. And San Diego

has long had the Center City Development Corporation which is a nonprofit structure as well.

So our recommended steps here are the phase one for forming a nonprofit corporation. In the next

two years there would be a, our slides are kind of the fonts are kind of messed up there but we

can still read it. The entity formation would begin over to your process as an independent project

focus organization as the face of the station. And as I said best able to be set that unique

brand and visualize what the SVS can become. It would proceed with development and starting to

take over the development projects that we have funding for and move forward towards full

build out and operations. But within that first two years would also be the charge of the

nonprofit is to actually do the due diligence to investigate the special district and see if it

is a viable alternative and take that forward in a vote that would determine whether the

organization moved forward with the special district or continue as a nonprofit corporation.

So what we see before you today where we're at is we're still in an analysis phase. We have

this recommendation but we're still doing diligence. We will be briefing and incorporating our

feedback from our partners to redefine the recommendation. We'll explore the viability of the

recommended alternative, the outreach and implementation planning, working with identified partner

agencies and continuing to evaluate funding sources and strategies. And we plan to return to

council with final recommendation by the end of the year. Today what we ask is that we have a

few questions for you that and others we entertain questions from you as well of course but we

wanted to understand what do you think we should consider as we explore these alternatives.

What should the cities roll be in the future of the station and how would the city council or

individual members of council like to be involved in the ongoing partner discussions. So with that

I'm concludes my presentation. I'd be glad to take questions.

Councillor Dicconson. Oh, do you have public first?

We have public. I don't have any speakers on this agenda.

I'll comment. Councillor Members, Councillor Dicconson.

Thank you Mayor. Greg takes for the presentation and Lucinda looking at your history seem to recall

there might have been a supervisor was a little bit involved in that agreement between the county

and the city and the CCJPA back in 2006. You know I think what's been done and illustrated in

the slides you showed with the station has been remarkable I think probably the only

error that was made was probably naming the passageway for Steve Cohn but outside of that I think it

all looks pretty pretty pretty good. You guys tell Steve I said that by the way.

I meant to invite him today I'm sorry. But in any case I don't have questions but I do have a

thought or two which may not surprise you. I do think the development corporation or you call

it on profit corporation. I would call it a development corporation is the optimal direction to take

because if you go I mean you don't have to go back to the slide but because there are development

opportunities within the envelope of what we think of as the SBS property or site it seems to

me that a development corporation is the best approach to take advantage of those development

opportunities. It's a form and in and of itself that's not governance I don't think that's more

directed at how you optimize the use of the property for value capture for the purpose of helping

to finance the public improvements to the property and that's really where we find ourselves.

I mean hopefully there will continue to be funding available through Turship and other

and other avenues through SB one and other things that come along as we continue to move into

the future. Hopefully if not right now there'll be a day when once again federal funding is robust

to support Amtrak and inner city rail investment and improvement. But I think the success that we see

of some of those examples you pointed out such as Washington Denver other places is they've taken

advantage of the development opportunity of the site itself and that has been manifested both

within the walls so retail opportunity I mean if you look at Union Station Washington

or you look at Denver to prime examples I mean they've taken advantage of retail opportunities within

the walls of the structure. To some extent these locations you've talked about have taken advantage

of development opportunities that are part again of the surrounding area and I think it's a

development corporation or nonprofit corporation as you've described it that creates the greatest

potential to to realize a return and to generate the funding that we need to augment whatever we get

in the way of public resources and I hope there will be another transportation measure locally

and that it will in fact include a specific allocation or recognition of investment in

Sacramento Valley Station because as you point out quite rightly it's a regional asset. It's

unrealistic and my estimation to think that surrounding governments as governmental units are

going to put a lot of money into the station. You know folks take advantage of it but the response is

yeah and they come and spend their money and contribute sales tax to the city of Sacramento and

they come and they sit in an office in the city of Sacramento next to the station if they go there

or they go to attractions they go to the theater whatever it is so the city of Sacramento is the

one that's realizing the return in terms of public revenue from that we're not realizing it in

winters or in Auburn and so on so I mean just realistically having been around this block a few times

I think it's it's wiser to focus on on how they can contribute in a way that

allows them to be part of the fabric but doesn't really directly say okay in order to do that

you got to you got to bring your checkbook to the table maybe they bring in a different way maybe

they bring it through participation in the CCJPA or the San Joaquins I don't know if Amtrak has

been a partner in any of these station development efforts around the around the country but I

mean maybe we talked talk to Amtrak about being a part of this certainly in my estimation we

got to be talking to the state of California and CalTrans rail division and beyond and up

yeah we are for sure so I think we'd have I think we'd have significant interest in being part

of the development corporation and then the the governance side of that obviously is determined

by who becomes the board and what's the what's the designation of responsibilities and authority

for the for the board in that regard I would think a JPA is at least going to be quicker

may not be better in all regards all respects but if you want to become a special district you

got to go through a legislature so if if you want to do something sooner rather than later

stay away from the white big building over there and again some of us have some experience and

how long it takes you to get through that get through that building just a little just a little

maybe it's jaundice to so I don't I don't know about that but you know a JPA obviously is the

the a meeting of the willing and so again I think I think we have people who would be partners I

think RT would be certainly be a partner as well as some of the others I've mentioned so

you know I'm excited by the prospect I people do not understand some of the things you

that were the 11th most heavily used Amtrak station in the country we've slipped a little bit with

capital corridor in the San Joaquin they used to be the second and fifth most heavily used

inner city rail services in the country now we're fourth and sixth but we're going to be back up

I mean people people don't realize that that Californians do take the train

and and that's only going to increase over time for a whole host of reasons so I'm I'm very

bullish on this in case you can't tell I'm excited about what we can do there have been obviously

for for a long time I'd like to be very much involved as you're thinking about about the direction

you you want to take and I think that that we we have great opportunities to put together something

that is both regional in in nature but but also adapt and able to to be nimble thanks mayor thank

you thank you uh councilmember plucky bomb I'd like to associate myself with all of those comments except for

the one about the tunnel uh I think uh this council you'll find the strong support for transit

for trains anything that we can do to support that effort obviously we're going to need to go back

out to the voters for another measure a and I'm looking forward to supporting that work thank you

for bringing this forward and for working on this for all these years uh I can't wait to see the

sanwake line and all these lines coming uh through our city and and providing greater access

at a more reliable and lower cost thank you thank you thank you councilmember garrer yeah thank you

um one I I completely agree with councilmember dickinson on on the need to look at this as uh as a

more of a development corporation of looking at it holistically and including all of those partners

and um and and I'm reminded of the transit oriented uh district that we created on on on 65th

street when that perspective of the entire area where it used to be just the light rail stop and then

a bunch of warehouses and that was just the it was like the works the easiest and closest way

to put a light rail station all right there but there was nothing there that was successful uh and

those all those jackson property warehouses that were abandoned now are you know a hotel and

you know arrive favors gym uh and now housing that we're doing there and back then councilmember

uh mccardi appointed me to the 65th street rack to look at those conversations but the focus was

around um the you know how do we combine all those interests I think where the gap was on that time

it was oh well this is the RT property and that's all we do at the RT property and I think this is

an opportunity to learn from that um I think narrow window you know and say how do we look at at

that entire facility being fully encompassed with services I mean when you're walking down the

Steve Cone walkway there's all this open space that could be actually something that could that

could be bringing in revenue generation or make it an interest for people to use it more and

you know some of us used to use it a lot for to go see the Raiders games you know uh very very

regularly and and what a great experience that was uh and you know even even this right now with

uh the opportunity for kids to be able to use it uh to join their families and and take advantage of

that but it it is it it doesn't provide that amenity okay so I one thing yes it should be uh

a I think in a form that looks at all of those components um one message that I hope does not get

lost uh it is a regional asset so in the development of the governance structure and in the development

of how we move forward we need to make sure that we're thinking about how does it become a regional

asset and how do people how does it get recognized as a regional asset and not just a city of

Sacramento property because that I think that I think is is going to be the success of it is if

we can think about that I don't know what the solution to that is um I know that when we looked at

measure B and measure uh A and measure A you know I don't want to call it A plus by A the next day

that failed on the ballot um you know the we at that point there was a group of us that recognized

hey this is a regional asset and we're going to put this the the the amount of money off the top

to make sure that we support that so in the development of how we look at the governance structure

and uh we need to make sure that that's a a guiding principle on that on that piece uh second I mean

the recognition that we're not a transit the city's not a transit agency so we can't apply for a

lot of those transit dollars I think something of urgency is important in figuring out whether it's

capital corridor or what other agency can can do that um I almost feel that depending on the

urgency for access to grants there's nothing I think wrong with having a two-step process say

you know the joint powers authority or another uh longer term governance structure or something if

there's there's the immediate to get something moving with the process of okay this is how

the the final structure should look at maybe we look at at those process so that would be my say but

I think my guiding thing is is really we have to figure out how to make this uh one financially

uh sustainable in the long run uh when I go visit my family in Mexico City all of the stations

there are linked with small businesses they're linked with services that people use on a regular

basis uh when you think about hey I got to in the morning you drop you get your coffee you're the

cleaners or the you know or in your kids so those three things like if you're not involving and those

in one way or another then it's then it just becomes a a stop and I think it's got to be more than

just a stop so thank you Mr. Mayor thank you Councillor Reckappellin thank you Mayor um can I have

staff put up the last slide that says the questions that we need to answer because I want to make sure

that that's that's focused in pre-minute of direction that uh we're being asked to uh to to answer

the next steps I'm sorry yeah the next steps the next uh the questions yes um that one thank you

I will agree um we need to form a some sort of governance structure I think I'm in alignment with

most of my colleagues but I want to be thoughtful but um I hear we need to do something right away

but if that doing something right away means maybe we partner with an organization if it's because

we need grants or it's because we're potentially missing out on money um but I want to be thoughtful

because once you set up a new governance structure that's the governance structure you're you're

set with so whether the right thing is a JPA something else I want to be thoughtful in how do we do the

business improvement district but also recognize like council member getta said it's a regional

amenity so how much should the region be involved as well as uh improving the rail yards and to the

success of the rail yards but understanding the success of the governance structure so what does

that look like in its best form um I want us to be thoughtful but also be aware if we need to partner

with another organization because we can't be the author of getting grants or funding that we have

that process set up as we have that that conversation um but I think what really guides us and I

want to think about it is what is our mission and what is our vision for this and then what structure

best allows us to implement that vision and that mission because that will guide the purpose and

everything um to make it a success and I trust those of you who've done the work and see what other

organizations have done across the United States and the structure that they've set it up what closely

aligns mostly with Sacramento um I think is is the best of what we should look at knowing that as we do

this um don't forget that transit moves people but we also need to invest in the transit oriented

development um to make it so that people can live work and play within an area um walking distance

biking distance thank you councilmember may fault thank you mayor um I agree with a lot of my

colleagues have said I have a couple questions one is around um around the JPA idea um do you have a

sense and this is asking your your opinion more so but do you have a sense of the likelihood of us

being able to establish something like a JPA is do you do you see that as being like a difficult

path given the city's ownership in it who would be the partners um well um I think

what we've found we we see that there may be a opportunity for JPA to exist within the development

or nonprofit corporation the JPAs tend to seem to work best if they're kind of mutually aligned

like the transportation authorities and the transportation running the transportation entity of

this transit oriented development would be a key way for JPA to work together for other interests

if you bring a JPA into a structure that has multiple interests and development transit uh these

other things I think that's a more difficult structure for the JPA to function well under you're

bringing everybody has their interests that are coming to the table in the JPA whereas we found

the nonprofit corporation setting that as a as an entity that relies would be made up of experts

that help develop their different aspects of the station not necessarily elected officials

pardon me but um for that reason to really look at the expertise that would um guide the station

and would be a way to move forward the most expeditiously with the with the best um we think the best

results so there as I said that we use that venn diagram there's not uh there is a play of

opportunity for these three structures to coexist in some form and we really think that if we can

get to the special district over time that funding security would be the ultimate game but we know

that that is a very high hurdle and we that's why I think the the theme here is we we want to get

going and not wait for that so we want to establish a structure to start us on our way in our

journey and develop this as we go okay that makes sense um and in that vein I would be you know

supportive of exploring structures that allow you to move quickly and and and nimly because

things are going to change I also had a question about how this kind of coordinates or intermixes with

the Reilly Hurts project in general of course we know that there's a lot more happening in the space

surrounding just this piece of land and if if we're thinking about all that in combination in the

Reilly Hurts project is healthy yes um well for one you'll I believe we're scheduled may for the

term sheet coming forward that the two properties that would go a lot 40 and a lot 44 would be a

senate they're shown on the on the diagram but a significant asset for the station for the development

corporation to build on for that funding but we're also we're we have three projects right now working

with downtown Reilly Hurts partnership that we receive funding for for Terce this summer will be

starting they'll be starting the construction of a new entrance from the Stevecomb passageway

into the the the the central shops plaza district that's been under construction so that was

Terce up money back in 2020 so we're looking forward to that um we have a segment of fifth street

that was funded that will allow our regional bus connector routes to more efficiently access

to station via fifth street to the to the freeway that will be that's coming to you next month

for our construction agreement and then we just recently in 2024 round received four million

dollars towards construction to complete the extension of Birkett Street down from

to the to the mouth of our tunnel that we built in 2012 that has never been open for pedestrian

bikes because it didn't have a connection to the public way and that will also serve as the

end of route turnaround for sack RT we're expanding the cultus out there so their buses can turn

around layover have a restaurant facility facility dedicated to the drivers and that serves the

rail yards region Kaiser for drop off there so we are definitely integrated all the way through

with the rail yard love to hear it um well other projects on the on the work on the work on the work

is it a lot of really great work by the team just want to thank you for that too um the entire

city team for this because it's they were clearly collaborating with all these partners it's just

it's a lot of work in the making and one of the the last questions I have is around I think this

is capital quarter in Amtrak do they currently pay the city anything in order to use this space

no no it's not set up that way they they um they Amtrak is the says people don't understand this

generally Amtrak owns the the trains that go interstate the that go through our station the

Zephyr and the co starlight those are Amtrak operated owned and operated trains the state owns

all the rail equipment for the capital quarters in the San Joaquin's and they hire they contract

with Amtrak to run the service so it's a state operated but we hold we inherited the lease when we

acquired the station in 20 2006 that Amtrak is the prime tenant and works out of the station

and their their lease terminates the first round in 2026 but they have three five year options to

2041 that came with the acquisition um thank you for that background and I think it's helpful

for the public to to understand all of that um I just really broadly I think you know this is

there's a lot of history in this space too and that's actually one of my favorite parts about it I

think it this is probably one of the generally speaking the rail yards is one of the the largest you

know in full projects it's the in the United States of America that's left to do and it's got

it it's got an amazing connection to our history it's determinists of the transcontinental rail road

and I think it's um one of one of the best investments that we could be doing is thinking about

this holistically as council member Kaplan mentioned thinking about in terms of how can we connect

to housing, transit or age development, to biking to and especially to our transit infrastructure so

that people can get around and so this is all connected it's interconnected in my mind um and so

really appreciate the work and I want to say that now that our colleague Mr. Dickinson is serving as

the representative in the capital corridor or JPA um through Sakharchi I think there might be

some opportunities for for their conversations about how that partnership can work um as we continue

forward but just really appreciate it and um I think my comments would be centered around how can

we move quickly and and in plea to create a structure thank you. Thank you. Back to council member Dickinson.

I just the conversation reminded me that um for those of you who may not know or recall uh light

rail was originally constructed through a JPA which was the city of Sacramento the county of Sacramento

Sacramento Regional Transit in the state of California the Sacramento Transit Development Agency so

I mean it's not we don't it's not as if we don't have something of a of a model right here in our

own backyard of um putting together an entity now that obviously was for development of the line

itself not the development associated with it but it's but it's something that we should keep in

mind I think as as you move ahead with this thanks. Yes thank you I just um uh perspective and some

and some insight here so yeah I forget a lot of things in this world but I remember vividly

sitting over there in Mr. Gareth's seat 19 years ago talking about this and having some of our

same city staff here and thinking this is imminent imminent and in my head I had you been recently to

at that time to I think our first captive cap delegation went to Union Station but like oh we

can have this in a couple years and certainly been to downtown LA and seen Union Station there

New York City and other cities and and thought this was just right around the corner so one it takes time

and we had serious infrastructure issues um you know legacy impacts there that that's uh what's that

bankruptcy the bankruptcy with the you know the Thomas development team but

we can see and touch closeness like the the courthouse Roger wins the courthouse open over there

the county courthouse soon right yeah the new one I've been told it should be open for the end

of the year but then I heard someone else say it might not be till 20 mid 26 okay well that's soon

so better than they're the 19 years better than 19 yeah and then we're all going to the we're all

going to the groundbreaking of the new Kaiser hospital and that's a four-year project and then

hopefully we'll start construction of the soccer stadium there and there's the shops and there's

two housing developments so we're there there's some projects that are in the rail yards that are open

so you know this is this is imminent and I think one of the things which is key which um we heard

from all the council members and and about stations here but also internationally and and and

make it which mr. Garrett talked about is that these are bustling places of commerce and I think that

these opportunities just aren't there yet because we don't have a lot there we had a starbucks

there we've had starts and stops with retail there and you know you think wow this will be an

amazing place for a brewery why would someone not want to use this historic place and you know

real-yard brewery or something like that but it's on that people there it's just there's not

enough people there you know yeah we have over 17,000 square feet on the ground floor that we've

entertained prior to covid we were shopping looking for you know bikes and brew any creative

things we have set up for marketplace it just hasn't there hasn't been that synergy there yet

so to your point yeah but I am optimistic because as as councilman Dickinson noted this is one of

the most bustling lines and growing lines in America the capital corridor I love going there

going down catching a ballgame in the bay area you know taking those trains and we see that but there's

just not enough commerce and housing built around there but I see that we're close to that tipping

point so I'm optimistic that one it's not a drain on the city budget that we can get revenue from

our tenants to help pay for the needed upgrades and just maintenance so it's not a loser but a

winner for the city of Sacramento and as far as the structure I don't I don't know the answer and

I'll leave it to you and focusing on the examples from from across the nation but but I do know what

I heard earlier is that it's very unlikely that any jurisdictions gonna want to help at all they

have their own needs costs are going in their own communities they have their own legacy infrastructure

obligations as well but doesn't mean they can't serve on this body and help us you know get in

line for say cog funding you know apply for you know federal spending so strengthen numbers and so

I think when we focus on that it's not that we're looking for you to help us with your general fund

but being part of the of the governing governing structure so and then lastly as far as I do recall

that the measure a we the legacy measure a we're we're living with right here it did help us

tremendously so maybe someone can remind me and you were anybody else in the council so the measure

A-ish measure that did not succeed recently what would that have done to help the real yards

the station that did have one million dollars towards operations annually yes and increase yeah

and what would that have been used for we well we have ongoing current minutes of increasing

security but we've you know we're getting the stations booming on so we've got deferred maintenance

of we need to pick up and so on like that so it would definitely been a huge asset for us yeah

and is that what our ask will be for the next measure again a million ongoing I think we need to

evaluate that in the whole scheme everything yeah yeah and back to our back to the leases idea

and so give us some hope for the bikes and brew or other vision vision there do you have any

real tangible not just optimism but inside as far as based upon what we're seeing there what

projects are coming online right now or about to break ground as far as what increased

retail activity we can see there but we we do a plug for sourdough company is our ground floor

tenant that's doing quite well down there and they're actually doing some catering out of

there as well as plus their open hours we have the second floor primarily leased the state has

is a big tenant and so though those are good for we're getting revenue in but we are looking

to find ways to create activities and great especially with the coming athletics we're improving

our wayfinding we're painting the canopies leading out to west Sacramento a bright blue color that

kind of ties to the waterfront colors we're talking in capital quarter how we can maybe coordinate

some late trains that's in discussion so we're trying to you know capitalize on those events

great opportunities for food trucks food music and start to create in that place and just starting

get you know that start of the hum getting in people's minds that it's just not a train station

but it's a place to come where things are happening so that's kind of the first step I think that's

the last thing what's the what's the timeline that you would like to have us focus on

of governance well we plan to come back by the end of the year with the more formal

recommendation we're doing our diligence we're going to be exploring a business case and developing

we're getting more into the numbers and we'll have putting more of the the skin on the bones of

this idea that we're moving forward with and be able to come back with you to you by the end of the year

okay thank you thank you I really appreciate you thank you for the presentation this long yes

this is this was a receive and file no vote on this item that is the final item on the agenda we do

have public comment we do mayor do you want to do council comments ideas and questions first or

public comment public comment first wonderful I have 15 speakers so I'll call a few off please

line up in the middle aisle Chris Baker Robert Elvis Fernando Burton Mac worthy

one of James then Mac that matters not on the agenda I didn't hear

this is for matters not on the agenda okay public comment for matters not on the agenda thank you

good evening mayor and council I haven't been here in a while but I don't know if you guys turn on

the TV sometimes I get tired of hearing about the you know we're cold the negativity of South

Sacramento floor and road Franklin and Mac all shooting or this or that but we never talk about

good things that's going on on Franklin and Mac road and that corridor so I say what can I do

about it I'm gonna show you some pictures of this thing works well I'm gonna show you this this

is food for less I work behind the scenes council member veins and then and bought food for less

there okay they did exceptionally numbers ahead above what they expected and due to that this

has been working behind the scenes for years we're going to have one of the best innovative quick

quite car washes and ducks brothers there food for less had to give up some park installs that

they were not using so that's what's going on in South Sacramento some good things I wish when

I turn on the TV I could hear hey this is going on on Franklin and Mac look at what the

beautification going on here on Mac road that's about like to see in second of all you all have

the forms there five years ago I was given a task to work with this reentry program and it's

one of the federal ones and five years ago there was mandate settled them and not neither one

besides one council member that's down the street have visited them now there's a graduation

mark six and I think it would remember it would be good if one of y'all all of you can come there

and look at these people in the face and say thank you for taking part in the first step act we see

these people they were in fellery incarcerated but they have achieved milestone goals got their

families back working for cow trans working for the state working for the county but when we put

all of these restrictions on nobody's been there to pat them on the back and say thank you well done

comments your speaker time is complete our next speaker's Robert Alvis

thank you guys for taking these comments my name is Robert Alvis I own GD theaters which operates

the Crest Theater and the Empress Tavern restaurant right up the street I've noticed something

over the last couple weeks I want to bring to your attention we as we know when there's events

at the Golden One Center at the Capitol Mall the Capitol Garage goes to surge pricing all day

event pricing at $15 instead of the normal seven over the last couple weeks and most recently

this Sunday the City Hall Garage has randomly gone to all day event parking at $15 when there are

no events and so like this last Sunday I had 30 families come to the crest and they use the City Hall

parking garage and asked me why is this garage that's 90% empty charging $15 for an all day event

that doesn't exist so I don't know who's making that decision I just wanted to bring a tear guys

as attention have someone look into it like I said I know you know if there's a big concert as

these are Shavis Park parking goes up with demand but when my customers see that there isn't the

demand they're less likely to come back and we need more people coming downtown not less so

anything we can do to encourage that I would appreciate thank you guys for your time yeah just for

our curiosity we'll we'll look into it and so the individual who oversees our parking division

we'll meet you in the back to get your information okay thank you thank you Fernando Burton

good afternoon the mayor and council members I'm disappointed that my representative has left the

dius I've lived in midtown district for 30 years and I'm calling I've come here out of frustration

since March of 2022 there have been 25 accidents at the intersection of 19th and O street

some have been very serious one I know is a motorcycleist who went over the over a the hood of a car

the the motorcycle submarine into a park car and the motorcycleist was likely paralyzed I know because

I called 911 and he said he couldn't feel his legs the reason I'm here is that there's a proposal

for a development at 19th and capital that's going to have 252 multi multi-unit residences 155

parking spaces you combine all of that those cars with the edict of return to work you got staff

from the east end project you can have more cars affecting that intersection and I'm tired of

the platitudes from public work staff that we'll look into it we'll research it and that's why I'm

here out of frustration I don't know what can be done but I'm tired of dealing with city staff

because I get no response 25 accidents at 19th and O you've got you've got at the rail yards

already built in the the stoplights but established neighborhoods like Midtown are being ignored

that in rail yard is future planning that's the way it should be established neighborhoods

it's catch up and we have not caught up so we need to we need to do something so thank you

thank you for your comments Macworthy then Twana

I don't know where I should start but what we hear here is everybody kicking for the city

to make money nobody's saying about things can go here that people can make money

how many of you really know what a nonprofit organization here shallow arms and they can't

just state black folks lost that was nonprofit nonprofit we're all waiting watching DC here you got

to know how to use it I tried to get it in with a previous man we own it like folks on the own

nonprofit by law and come out and do it but we see things like the DA come in and tell you I'm

using brother to brother to snatch your own other people downtown you go see some killing go

here and it should be because I know my daddy taught me I commit a crime it's you you tell it I kill you

you tell it you vice versa and then we look at the county in city five million dollars over here

what do it that's it's already do not know where's the black my voice in Sacramento we have no

media I'm known as black boys here wherever the others that come here and got paid

people if you wake up and understand that that is six bill it didn't cover you all if you commit

crime that which I've been committed here you don't get to twice you do it but here not a

DA gonna go to be a psychologist and what you doing or you still in the eat or what you're

still in for that we made by the you getting ready to build Mojela after you get ready to do

flea bargaining done it in the mid seventies nine percent of all the cases you go here is people

owned by a public opinion a public opinion to work for the state you don't have a fast law farm

here in this town no more just like here you don't have it here in the city I think if you're

comments our next speaker's Twana James then Mac I want to know we can get an appointment with you

for you so we can tell you our concerns about our place we are there's people that are afraid to go

back because we we might get thrown out for being here and I don't think that's right and the

blankets what he was talking on that I had to go to my church and get blankets for them there's

it's not no there's not unlimited blankets people are freezing there and just have a heart and

listen to people that are there give have a survey every six months or something and send it to

the people that live there let them show their concerns you know we're here for a reason because

there's things wrong there and we're just asking if we can get an appointment with you and just

tell you our concerns is that a great can we agree on that that we can get one before I leave because

I'm not leaving here unless we get one you take me to jail you can do whatever I'm not leaving

here until we get one and that's all I'm just listen to the people that live there that's all I

mean we're not doing this for nothing we're not complaining about nothing give people blankets

and you know what they're okay they're moving out of the two people two trailers they move

out today they they're moving them out they're keeping people in the trailers they're not doing what

they're saying they're doing you need to keep them accountable for what they're saying that every

almost everything he said not everything I'm not gonna say that but most of it they you know it was

it was lie because they're not they're not checking in on the people that are doing you know working

there the stuff over there's tortures people and we should be able to stay this without getting

thrown out I love I'm about my arm because he wanted to hurry up and get people in there I

bust in my teeth out you think anybody asked me if they can help me get my teeth done no

in my arm I just got my arm out of the cast three months because it uneven pavement there

and I just sorry I just think that you guys you should give me give us a chance could we thank

you for your comments your time is complete our next speaker is Mack then Henry Harry

I think this speaks to those hierarchical structures that I like talked about last time because that

because then the expertise right was given to this man who is not on the ground

and it was said to you like all of these things were happening and then you have people who are

actually the experts of what they're experiencing walking in here telling you that it's not

so I think that needs to be taken very seriously that these hierarchical structures

actually cause y'all delayed feedback loops and me it makes it so I'm going back a week later

and folks are still freezing and don't have blankets um y'all know my name is Mack my

friends are they them and I come today as a friend of residents of the Roosevelt campus

um those are world campus I think again right these need for the feedback loops you guys have

already heard they have mold freeze they're freezing at night a week later and they're still cold

they're still cold um and that was why they residents really would like to meet with you and

Roger Dickinson it's your um campus it's in your district um can you point to maybe who your staff

members are in the room none of them okay uh would it be possible to get somebody down before we left

so we could just get a card and because they have tried to email all of you that's how it started

they actually tried to reach out to your office and they tried to reach up to many of y'all's

office about this well before they came in here today um and it has continuously gone on deaf

ears I think why you you know we don't show up unless we have to people tried to call you people

tried to say this people can't go to the director because again these not these hierarchal structures

means that if this one person doesn't like you that means that you don't get help but other people do

and so like creating feedback loops that allow for a non-hiericle like there needs to be many people

that people get to go to there needs to be many people along the way that people get to talk to

about the needs that they have not just like one person who's in charge of everything because then

if you get on their backside you you want somebody you can be you can't talk to them um thank you

for your comments our next speaker is Henry Harry thank you Mack Henry Harry and Julie Virga

and Susan Falcone I don't see Henry Julie falling Julie is Susan Falcone Athena Pagano

I used to come down please start over your timer your mic was turned off you bet please proceed

good afternoon I just wanted it come down here today to say something that you may not hear very often

which is thank you I appreciate your time and your energy um I really thought it was time that I

come down here and see you guys in action I hadn't done that yet this year and it's hard work

it's a lot of pain attention to a lot of little details and um I appreciate a renewed commitment

to leadership and I see a new energy in the city council that I've not seen in the past

and I really appreciate that and one of the things that I do want to bring to your attention that

I hope you will seriously consider as we go forward because you were talking about prevention

and how prevention can make such a big difference and preventing animals um from overpopulating

is really going to be key to changing Sacramento and I'm confident that you all will be

supportive of a spay neuter efforts that we all are going to be collaborating together to make

going forward so that's it thank you very much Susan and Athena

okay a Thea yeah do I see Susan I don't see any movement so please proceed oh so Susan

after you thank you good afternoon my name is Thea Pagano I'm a certified humane education

specialist with 25 years in the animal care field I have worked with many shelters throughout

California during those years and I believe that spay neuter is the foundation of population control

and because of that I have built a mobile spay neuter program from the ground up so I have a

thorough understanding of all things spay neuter in the state of California currently Sacramento

faces a major issue hundreds of unaltered foster dogs remain in limbo due to a seven to eight

month weight period for spay neuter the city as the technical owner of these animals carries the

liability for roughly one thousand unaltered animals if any of them escape bite someone

harm another animal or cause an accident this open Sacramento to legal and financial risk

there are many of those fosters that have also become lost in the system without a clear plan

for transferring of ownership I have personally offered to bring a professional high volume

team of spay neuter into front street by using their veterinary hospital without any success

thinking that perhaps front street didn't want to use their own veterinary hospital I also supported

bringing SNPs mobile clinic as a proven cost effective and long term solution yet the city

continues to reject these opportunities and in a recent development it is concerning that the

city has contracted spay neuter services which appears to overlook California veterinary medical

board regulations again exposing Sacramento to legal liability if these preventable issues aren't

to dress the city will face mounting costs not just in sheltering animals but possibly in lawsuits

too I urge you to please prioritize responsible legal and effective solutions before it's too late

not only for the city of Sacramento but in an effort to save as many animals lives as possible

and I thank you very much thank you for your comments Susan Falcone following Susan is Carolina

Flores then Alfonso Carolina and I don't see I don't see movements just Susan what do you want to

speak Susan Susan Falcone then Carolina I don't okay so Carolina and Alfonso is not here so following

Carolina is Jerat Hill

we used we used start over so I can make sure your time is correct

two minutes up for this vanish do you want me to put four minutes on or do you want to do two and two

no no you have to tell me because I'm going on one idea after the other you've got to stir and the

animal is there thank you I'll let you know and show me this is up I'm here to put the

key and our concern to count the attack criminals against the invaders ambulances mexican immigrants

undocumented you have not done anything I am at the point of looking for some legal service to

put them to you responsible for these criminals because because the people who are attacking

those immigrants are code enforcement staff and police in the videos that a man had a

moraton of the police that attacked him you are responsible for the police for what we have to

you if nothing is doing nothing this action is criminal this action is your responsibility and if

you do nothing there is another course of starting a payment against you or you

do something to stop this action of your team, your departments then that's why please

ask we have some recommendations I'm going to say we're going to send our

condor is not going to come today and we want there are some solutions to help the

ambulances to put an area where it will be for the vendors the vendors are in the

city on some sides or more one or two a space where the vendors are there can wash

can use the excuses can throw this sanitary or garbage and the other is to have to

prove unity in the community the truth the neighbors do not know what are going on

but when you come to arrest them, you have to be aware of them the vendors are protecting

the communities the desinities that where they are working it is literally an

relationship that can be established very well but when you come to arrest them,

throw their food that will bring their carols to my eyes, it's for two minutes is complete

I'll put two more minutes.

Wonderful. I was having so much fun.

Okay, beneath the Water Foundation I'm Director of Communications and I'm there are few steps

that we think that we should be achieve this anti-immigrant fervor of the vendors the ambulance

to my camera I have to mix my English and Spanish. The street vendors who are California

residents are being attacked by people that are in your company your company code enforcement

your company police man there's videos there's 10 videos online that you can see where the

street vendors have been assaulted there's crimes that are committed against them and who's

protecting them not you not the police and this violates the agreement between the country

us in Mexico that United States would protect the Mexican nationals working here.

We've asked promote unity we asked designated vent venting zone and community building and they're

being organized meetings where the both the neighborhoods and the vendors get a chance to meet

and talk about the same struggles and the same goals that they have we think that they would make

better city governments the raising awareness the empathy and the understanding is going to happen

when you educate the community about what's going on and I really believe that these immigrant street

vendors are contributing immensely to the economy here in Sacramento they don't have stores with

great big neon signs and play teams that are doing nationally but they are vital parts of the

community they are part of the urban landscape and you are not aware of it and I am sorry that's

your loss but we have to protect them you have to protect them and I hold you each of you responsible

for protecting the street vendors this is a crime we're getting out of this corruption scandal right

well you know what this does not paint a very good picture about us nationally or internationally

and I hope that you understand that we are trying to do what we can to help you with the Department

of Justice we hope to be able to find ways to stop this crime because nobody's here is doing

anything about it thank you so much I appreciate your attention and your support

Hey your comments our next speaker is Jared Hill and Anna Arrondo and then Elise Niz

with three more speakers good evening council welcome to those of you new on the diocese the

selection term and a good to see those of you who have spoken here a number of times before

I am one of ten of the core member applicants who won right to dispensary license a year ago almost a

year ago about 30 days from now be a year we are awarded one year extension of time to get our

dispensary open prior to that the reason my company and team needed the extension was because our

building in your district mr. Dickinson district two at 1511 Doppasso the oh Casabella

furniture Galleria St. Kerry's building burned down while we had an under contract to purchase it

and open up there in the check cash in place and then expand expand our vision our goal for the

avenue there in the rest of that building so at that time we requested more time from the council

even though miss Kaplan is not here at the moment sure those of you who were remember that while

one year extension was given it was intimated that hey those people might need more than a one

year extension of time because of the way that this thing has gone for us this has been quite a

journey it took us almost two and a half years out of the three years initially granted to get

open to find a building some of the things that the road blocks that we've been faced with have been

access to real estate that's appropriately zoned access to viable financing beyond not just the

support we get from the core program and and and O.C.M. but finding viable partners people that

are are part of this core program start now as mom and pops are very limited resources and

been faced with a lot of predatory deals so I'm just here today to solicit your continued support

we are really close at another location just up the street from there 1625 comments your time is

coming to be unable to speak with you guys thank you for your comments thank you I'm Anna

Arilando falling Anna is Elise I don't see any movement Anna Elise okay so mayor we move on to

council comments ideas questions and AB123 reports council member Dickinson thank you

three announcements the first is the California chapter of the council of American

Islamic relations we all know as care as pleased to announce it's 18th annual capital iftar which

is a celebration of community and interfaith understanding during the holy month of Ramadan and

that will be next Tuesday March 11th beginning at 5 15 pm at the del Paso art gallery which is

located at 16 16 del Paso Boulevard all are welcome to join in the event and breaking fast

together and fostering dialogue and building bridges across diverse communities second I wanted to

mention the youth opportunity alert which will take place here at city hall on March 8th

so Saturday from 9 30 in the morning to to noon and it's an opportunity to discover

stipend based programs internships and seasonal career employment so among other things you

can get a professional headshot if you if you come to the resource fair and we invite all to

join in that this Saturday as well and then thirdly the Sacramento building trades is hosting a

hands-on union trade awareness career fair that will be March 28th from 10 in the morning to 2 pm at

97 01 big horn boulevard so toward toward the south part of the county and I'll grow and that's

an opportunity to learn about apprenticeship opportunities connect with representatives of various

building trades and discover potential pathways to stable and fulfilling careers so for those

who are interested in the trades there's an opportunity thank you mayor and I'm clerk.

I'll turn over Jennings. Thank you very much please join us and the Southland Park

Neighborhood Association Zeeburg Park Neighbors del Paso Trail Enthusias Pocket Area churches

together the City of Sacramento youth parks and community enrichment department and parks

commissioner Joe Flores and my office this Saturday to put in sweat equity to clean up the

flooring road and pocket road section of the del Rio Trail once again that's this Saturday March

the 8 at 9 a.m. we'd love to see you there and then it's that time of year again for you to

market calendars for the Easter egg hunt at Garcia Bend Park in the pocket neighborhood it will

take place on April the 5th you can arrive at 10 a.m. if you want to picture with the Easter

bunny and be sure to bring your Easter baskets and all those eggs filled with treats will start at

10 30 sharp and be on the lookout for the golden egg for a special surprise with goodies galore

there's plenty of fun to go around for everyone so bring the kids out more information can be found

on my Facebook and Instagram page hope to see you there.

Council member Kaplan thank you this Sunday we're going to have the district one women in

Natomas small business celebration it's going to be 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. at the North Natomas

Community Center it's a showcase of a lot of our small women owned businesses so come on out

and join us and then mark your calendars for Saturday March 15th at the North Lake Community Park

which is the new community as you head to the airport it is windy out there so we are having our

district one kite fun fly event from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. so bring your kids your grandkids out

fly some kites we will provide them and the kids can also make them.

Council member Wang thank you I just wanted to make an announcement this Saturday from 9 to 1

o'clock at John still drive 2250 we are going to be planting trees and cleaning up the neighborhood

there's going to be bike repairs as well by Saba and so encouraging folks to come out to that

there'll be information and resources and lots of fun so bring your gloves and be ready to plant

lots of trees and then I just wanted to give a shout out to my staff Samantha Lise Thong

she's actually getting married this Sunday and I'm excited for her mong wedding and just

wanted to give her an Andy a shout out that has been a long time coming and I'm super excited for

and then lastly I want to just remind folks that our annual district eight community conversation

next Saturday from 10 to 1 at Union House Elementary School we're going to have various departments

there we're going to talk about the great work that's been happening in district eight and the work

that we still have ahead would love for folks to be there food will be there lots of activities as

well it's a really great annual event for community members to get updated about what's happening

in the district and those are my updates thank you mayor pretend getta thank you very much man

of clerk I just wanted to encourage folks to join us for the college gland little league opening day

and parade as we always do we start at the railings on full sub boulevard and then drive out to

college gland and neighborhood at 8 a.m. for opening ceremony at 8 30 a.m. and appreciate

everyone joining us out there we're also going to be dedicating the softball field so thanks everyone

for who worked together all the parents to start our first softball team in college glint thank you

man of clerk thank you so the business of this meeting is complete we do have a special meeting

for the purpose of a closed session after this meeting we do have a quorum here in council I do not

have any public comment on either of these agenda items we've got two items that we will discuss in

closed session pursuant to government code section 5495 6.9 d1 to discuss matters pertaining

depending litigation Megan white versus city of Sacramento United States District Court for the

eastern district of california case number two colon 21-cv-022 11-jam-db item number two is pursuant

to government code section 5495 7.6 for a matter pertaining to negotiation with recognized

employee organizations Sacramento City exempt employees association Sacramento police officers

association international union of operating engineers stationary engineers local 39 Sacramento

area firefighters local 522 Sacramento Sierra building and construction trades council plumbers

and pipe fitters local 447 auto marine and specialty painters local 1176

western council of engineers international association of machinist and aerospace workers

the purpose is to confer with the city's chief negotiators Shelley Banks Robinson

Aaron Denado and Tim Davis so mayor you may adjourn to closed session thank you well adjourn to closed

session