Okay, good evening everyone and welcome to the April 14th, 2000.

April 13th, excuse me, 2026.

Um Commission meeting for the community police review commission.

Uh this meeting is now called to order.

Will the clerk please call the road to establish a quorum?

Thank you, Chair.

Members please unmute your microphones.

Commissioner Johnson.

Present.

Commissioner Coleman is absent.

Commissioner Corbs.

Present.

Commissioner Buen Rostro is absent.

Commissioner Griggs.

Present.

Commissioner Lewis.

Present.

Commissioner Jenulius is absent.

Commissioner Brookins is absent.

Commissioner Espinoza Salazar.

Present.

And Chair Sample.

Present.

Thank you.

We have quorum.

Okay.

Thank you very much.

So we do have a quorum tonight.

I would like to remind members of the public and chambers that if you would like to speak on an agenda item, please turn in a speaker slip to the uh before the item begins.

After the item is called, we will no longer accept speaker slips, and you will have two minutes to speak once you are called on.

We will now proceed with tonight's agenda.

Please rise if you're able for the opening acknowledgement in honor of Sacramento's indigenous people and tribal lands.

To the original people of this land, the Nissanon people, the Southern Maidu Valley, the Plains Miwok, the Potwin Wintow peoples, and the people of the Wilton Rancher, Sacramento's only federally recognized tribe.

May we acknowledge and honor the Native people who came before us and still walk beside us today on these ancestral lands by choosing to gather together today in the active practice of acknowledgement and appreciation for Sacramento's indigenous peoples' history, contributions, and lives.

Thank you.

Now I will ask uh Commissioner Johnson if you will lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance.

To the Republic for which it stands.

One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and okay, thank you very much.

Next we're gonna move to the approval of the consent calendar.

Um sorry.

All right, so uh if you'll forgive my oversight there, we like to move to is there public comment on matters not on the agenda.

Thank you, Chair.

I have no speaker slips for matters not on the agenda.

Okay, thank you.

Uh now we'll move into our consent calendar.

Uh our consent calendar is the approval of our minutes from our March 9th, 2026 uh commission meeting.

Uh are there uh any questions?

Excuse me.

Are there any members of the public who would like to speak on this item?

Uh yes, Chair, we do have one member of the public signed up to speak.

May you make your way to the lectern now.

I didn't hear I was talking now.

Okay, so this matter is does not pertain to what's on the agenda.

Um so my name is Miss Tanji Lewis, and I've been here over a month in a crisis.

I've went to report a crime that had happened to me and my son.

We do not supposed to be in the United States.

And for his abduction, I was refused to make a report.

This has been happening for over a year.

Every city and state I've been to.

I've been refused to report reports of our crime being reported.

And so I'm continuously reaching out.

How can this commission help connect me with those that can help?

Now it's a lot more in detail about what has happened to me and my family because we had to flee the United States into another country.

And so I'm reaching out in every avenue that possibly can because my son's life does depend on it.

And so I decide to make this meeting.

I don't know how much time I have, I don't know.

And um to reach out to see how can this commission help connect me to make what wrong right because no matter a crime is a crime, it must be reported.

And because I appear to be by myself, I have encounter of a lot of injustice that would cause me to continue in this life that is not mine.

I work very hard not to be in this situation, and my son somewhere else that I do not know.

And so, how can this commission again connect me to and help assist with the matter at hand being my previous experience and experience now here with the police department and others and position out connect with their office and haven't heard any response back at all?

Do I stay here?

Great.

Thank you, Miss Lewis, for for that comment.

Okay, so what do I hear something back now or later?

This is uh public comment time, I believe that was for public matters not on the agenda.

I've been to many different ones.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, so just so that we'll all know that was public comment on matters not on the agenda.

So now we'll move into our uh consent calendar, which will be the approval of our commission meetings for the March 9th, 2026 meeting.

Does that clean it up for me?

Yes.

Okay.

Sorry for the confusion on uh on the clerk's hand.

All right.

Uh with that being said, uh, is there a motion and a second for our consent calendar?

Motion.

Okay.

And for the record, we have no public comments on uh the consent calendar.

So there's no public comments.

Any comments by commissioners.

Okay.

So I have a motion by Commissioner Vice Chair Johnson, and I have a second by uh Commissioner Lewis.

Is corpse?

All right.

I heard both of y'all say second, so tie goes to the runner.

Uh that's the A's up the street.

All right, with that being said, all in favor say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

Any abstentions?

Okay, the motion passes.

Um let's move to our next item, which is under our discussion calendar.

We have the Sacramento Police Department staff update.

Uh Captain Buchanan.

Good evening, Chair and Commissioners.

Uh, thank you for the time to address you guys tonight.

Um, just a little history on why we're starting the staff updates.

Uh, the chair and I spoke.

We thought it'd be good to provide a little bit more knowledge on some of our units within the department that you guys may not be aware of.

So tonight it's easy one for me.

It's one of my my teams, and it's the our inspections and standards team.

Um, and I'll give you a brief overview on what they do and how they how they help ensure accountability within the Sacramento Police Department.

Uh the inspectors span the inspections and standards team was created in 2020 to make sure we are meeting the highest standards for our internal audits and inspections.

Their core responsibility is accountable, accountability of our equipment for our practices and for the constitutional rights of the people we serve.

On the equipment side, the team conducts quarterly inspections of patrol investigations and specialty units.

These inspections are chosen at random and focus on making sure every piece of issued equipment is present, functional, and ready for use.

When they identify an issue, it gets corrected quickly, and if they see a pattern, they work with the department to develop long-term solutions.

One of the primaries they focus primary area areas they focus on is the accountability and proper functioning of our less than lethal systems.

The inspection standard teams also ensures accountability through our constitutionality of arrest audits.

Some of the key points others look at are whether there was reasonable suspicion, probable cause was established, or whether evidence was handled correctly.

And third quarter, in the third quarter of 2025, uh SPD made approximately 2,500 arrests.

The team reviewed 126 of them.

Of those, 125 were found to be fully compliant, and one was referred to the watch commander for additional review.

These results and every quarter's result results stated back to 2021 are publicly put publicly posted on our transparency page.

If you uh refer to your handout that I get you have up there, you can see what we post on our transparency page with the detailed data.

This gives uh this process gives the community a clear window into how we monitor constitution monitor constitutional policing within the department.

It should be noted that if an auditor identifies potential corrective actions, then the review is forwarded to the officers division who will decide if the corrective actions should be referred to the turn internal affairs divisions or not.

The inspection standard team also prepares the annual military equipment use report which you guys are very familiar with with which accounts for quantities costs uses and the demographics of individual the individuals the equipment was used on a recent audit by the LA uh controllers found SP's report to be fully compliant with state law and model for other agencies and our auditor uh conducted audit at our city auditor conducted audit on it and said we're above standard in almost all the areas that they reviewed in short the inspector standards team is one of our most important accountability mechanism mechanisms their work helps ensure equipment is managed responsibly our arrests meet constitutional standards and our operations remain transparent to the community to close it out they're extremely professional group employees who do amazing work that I'm extremely proud of so I'll take any questions if you guys have them on that team I just I thought it would be nice to give you guys more insight to some of our units okay commission are there well first uh clerk do I have any members of the public who want to speak on this item thank you chair I have no speaker slips on item number two okay uh are there any commissioners who have questions or comments for uh Captain Buchanan oh there we go commission of corps thank you for that presentation so we haven't had opsa here for a while and so are these cases that you were referring to from the standards team the inspection and standards team does OPSA review those as well no commissioner it's all internal to make sure we're not violating people's civil rights when we're making arrests so it's it's the constitutionality of the rest they're being made so it's not every call it's just another mechanism for oversight internally which makes this team special in what they do on on that perspective.

Okay so this is in addition to what OPSA is doing along with the police department correct it's in addition to our supervisor reviewing a minimum of two body cameras uh per period for every six months then these and plus whatever um other incidents that may mandate a review okay that was my only question thank you thank you okay uh next I have commissioner lewis uh thank you for the report my question is so they're reviewing five percent of arrests is that then extrapolated into trends for the grade because that's five percent so the greater majority is that then expected that there's a trending situation or is this five percent deemed to be reflective of overall performance if that makes sense I think I I'm following so the five five percent is just randomly selected statistics the statistical sampling I'm not gonna say I'm an auditor to understand what that means but it it it will show us if there's trends that we need to to our patterns that we need to be aware of it it has caught some issues in the past so it has been a productive study or a productive uh auditing process so it's it's working out for us I don't know if I'm answering your question or you are you are I just wanted to know if there is there was and I'm sure the auditors would do this we're following any trends or patterns that may have been reflected in this five percent which would then cause them to say okay hold on maybe we need to look at a greater percentage correct correct if we found a large number that were there was to be problems as certainly in a special area or certain or certain arrest type then we go back and we'd study that to see what it was and do more review.

Okay thank you okay uh vice chair johnson uh captain buchanan thank you very much for that um report uh my question is in regards to the training um is there any adjustments have been done in a training since 25 uh uh regarding just the the the auditing process yes yeah so the the all the auditors are selected and they receive training uh before they can be able to conduct audits they actually follow a checklist to make sure it's consistent with uh across the board they review um all the paperwork they review the body work camera um and they they review everything that has to do with deal with the call um so yes they are trained um we don't have a set retraining period for them to do um because they do cycle out because we have to use people outside the unit because to review 125 calls every quarter um is a a lift for some people that because it's not their full-time job thank you okay other members of the commission uh well just it's not really a question it's more of a comment captain of you can I want to say thank you so much for this report and this information uh it is again our hope and our desire to continue to kind of have this type of information to be able to help inform the work that we're doing so great job with this really appreciate it sir all right if there's no other comments from uh members of the commission we'll move to our next discussion item uh so our next discussion item is uh an audit of the Sacramento Police Department evidence and property division and so we uh will have a report from our city auditors welcome

It is again our hope and our desire to continue to kind of have this type of information to be able to help inform the work that we're doing.

So great job with this.

Really appreciate it.

Thanks, sir.

All right.

If there's no other comments from uh members of the commission, we'll move to our next discussion item.

Uh so our next discussion item is uh an audit of the Sacramento Police Department evidence and property division.

And so we uh will have a report from our city auditors.

Welcome.

All right.

Um good evening, uh community police review commissioners.

My name is Kevin Christensen.

I'm the assistant city auditor with the city auditor's office.

So with me tonight are first show Rari, the city auditor, and Chevelle Jackson, a senior fiscal policy analyst in the office that worked on the project.

So we are here to present our audit of the Sacramento Police Department's evidence and properties sections.

Um we'll begin with a little background.

Uh the evidence and property section plays a critical role in the criminal justice process by maintaining the integrity of evidence from the moment it's collected through its final disposition.

This function directly supports successful prosecutions, reduces legal and operational risk, and helps maintain public trust.

So the section operates under uh the police department's general order 525.01, which requires all evidence be securely stored, properly documented, and consistently tracked to preserve the chain of custody.

Uh, as discussed below, or as discussed later in this presentation, uh the police departments also developed two draft procedure documents provided to staff that guide the day-to-day operations of the of the warehouse.

So operationally, the work uh centers on four core functions intake, storage, distribution, and disposition.

Uh so staff verify and accept evidence from patrol officers, they maintain the secure inventory controls, provide evidence for investigations and court proceedings, and ensure appropriate and final outcomes such as return, destruction, or transfer.

Um go to the scope of the audit.

Um the objective of the project was to determine whether the evidence and property section operates in compliance with applicable laws, industry best standards, uh, and maintaining the integrity and countability of the evidence handling process.

For scope, we focused our review on operations of the warehouse between 2020 and 2024.

So in order to do the project, we focused on three main areas or a couple different couple different areas.

Uh to we reviewed national standards, analyze SPD's draft policies, and conducted walkthroughs of evidence facilities to assess the operational and structural practices.

We reviewed best practices from the California Commission on Police Officer Standards and Training, or uh post, and the International Association of Property and Evidence.

So given the volume of property related to homelessness, we also engaged uh shelter operators that are operating homeless shelters in the city, uh SBD command staff and city officials to identify best practices for handling and returning property.

So we performed detailed testing of high-risk items such as firearms, narcotics, cash, and jewelry using a statistically value uh valid sample and verified their presence in the warehouse.

In addition, we assessed warehouse access controls, um, including security badging and uh security cameras.

So for our first finding, uh we concluded that SPD's evidence location and retrieval processes are generally operating effectively with error rates within acceptable industry ranges.

So we found that SPD has strong controls in place for evidence handling.

Officers are required to book items by the end of their shift, properly package and document them, and ensure that they're secured in design in designated storage locations.

Evidence and property staff then review the submissions and confirm the accuracy of uh and compliance.

So we found that maintaining a chain of custody is a central control for uh for SPD.

Um, our testing of high-risk items that included narcotics, firearms, securities, and jewelry showed that nearly all items were properly accounted for.

Drugs were tracked at 100%, firearms at 99.6%.

One item that would that we could not find was a fingerprint, and all remaining items uh in in the in the high-risk designations were ultimately located or supported by chain of custody documentation.

Um as part of this first finding, or in our uh first sub-finding, we identified an opportunity for SPD to strengthen ammunition storage practices that better align with best practices.

So while policies exist, we observed ammunition uh for destruction and department use being stored on pallets on the warehouse floor rather than in dead in dedicated fire related or fire rated storage.

This is partly due to the dual role of the facilities.

So the evidence and property warehouse serves as both the evidence storage and also as the department's armory, resulting in large volumes of ammunition stored in in the basically in the secured warehouse.

So best practices we found recommend that ammunition be stored separately in fireproof lockers.

Although access to the areas are restricted, storing ammunition in open areas increases the risk of loss, misuse, and various safety hazards.

So for this, we recommended that SPD move the ammunition into fire rated lockers and update its policies to clearly require storage consistent with the best practices.

So our second sub-finding for our second sub-finding had to do with firearms stored in cages on the floor of the facility.

So basically, we found that firearms pending destruction were stored in open racks in the secured warehouse.

So we found this in the initial walkthroughs of the audit.

Over the course of the audit, SPD had added additional security protocols by adding uh by adding locking mechanisms to the cages and by ensuring that those cages are locked to the uh to basically set for set structures.

So what we found these um these uh these improvements take took place, precede the procedures manual did not reflect the new requirements.

So we recommended that they update the manual and train staff on these new security requirements.

Um for our uh for our our fourth subfinding, uh we identified an opportunity to strengthen access controls over the warehouse uh the warehouse's video surveillance system.

So while SPD has strong overall security measures in place, we observed that the video surveillance workstation is located on the open warehouse floor, making it accessible for evidence and property staff and increasing the risk of unauthorized access or tampering.

So best practices we found recommend that surveillance systems be secured and accessible only to authorized management personnel and uh as a serve as a critical control for monitoring activity and preserving a reliable record.

Although additional cameras are planned to enhance monitoring, the current placement still presents risks to integrity and compliance.

So we recommended that SPD take steps to better secure the surveillance workstation and strengthen controls to protect it to protect the critical records.

So for the second finding, um, we identified a governance gap related to SPD's evidence and property policies and procedures.

So while um, as I said earlier, while SPD has developed a comprehensive procedural manual, including uh both the evidence and property manual and a separate firearms handbook, these documents remain in draft form and have not been formally adopted.

These manuals provide clear critical guidance on evidence handling, security documentation, and legal compliance, and are intended to support consistent and accountable operations.

So best practices and container control standards emphasize the policies should be formally uh approved, communicated, and implemented in order to be effective.

Without finalized procedures, management's ability to enforce standards, ensure consistency, and maintain accountability is limited.

So we recommended that SPD prioritize the finalizing of these documents and provide uh staff training.

So the we had one five subfinding for this finding where we identified an opportunity to strengthen how SPD handles jewelry and other high value and other high value items.

So while current procedures require items over 100 to be stored in in a secure safe, they do not provide clear criteria for determining the value or consistent guidance for booking and documentation of these high of these higher value items.

So in practice, staff are separating the higher value items based on uh based on the property reports, but we observed incidents where items were not initially identified as high value and required relocation after the fact.

Now, to put this into context, we reviewed about 300 uh items and four required um placement in the safe.

So we're not talking about um a big a big issue here.

So what we found is this is partly due to the limited appraisal experience and inconsistent completion of value fields in the tracking system.

Um so best practices recommend itemizing valuables and applying reasonable market values.

Um what the what the what SPD told us is that the neither the police officers or the property uh clerks are trained in appraising jewelry and high value items.

So a lot of this, if the value isn't given to them, they kind of ballpark it, right?

So what we recommended is updating uh updating the procedures to provide clearer guidance so potentially value valuable items are moved into the safe.

So our third finding has to do with uh opportunities to reduce time and cost by relocating homeless enforcement property.

So currently, SPD spends a significant amount of time and resources collecting, storing and disposing of property belonging to people experiencing homelessness to the tune of about 8,000 staff hours annually, or roughly $588,000 in total costs between property clerks and uh members of the uh SPD impact team.

So this work also strains warehouse capacity, it pulls officers from core duties and creates barriers for individuals attempting to retrieve their belongings.

Um other agencies that we spoke to throughout the state have addressed these challenges by using third party providers to collect store and return property off-site, which we found improved, which they found improves efficiency and increases retrieval rates.

So for this, we recommended that SPD explore a similar approach and in coordination with the Department of Community Response implement monitoring to ensure that it delivers time uh time savings and operational benefits.

Um our fourth finding has to do with evidence disposition and accumulation within the warehouse.

So we identified that evidence disposition practices have not kept pace with incoming inventory, leading to a growing accumulation of property.

So between 2022 and 2024, SPD booked over 143,000 items and dispose of about 122,000 items, resulting in a net increase of more than 20,000 items in storage over that three year process.

So while processing has improved, intake generally outpaced removals contributing to overcrowding and increased risks related to storage capacity safety in the chain of custody.

Right.

So up there on the slide you can see the incoming and outgoing rates for 20 for 22, 23, and 24, and the item in the red circle is the um is the accumulated items in the warehouse.

So these challenges are partly driven by legal and court requirements that extend how long evidence must be retained in the warehouse, right?

So they don't move stuff out as they at as they want to.

A lot of times it requires time for legal disposition, uh, it requires time for people to leave leave incarceration and uh a host of different issues.

So while best practices emphasize the importance of timely and routine disposition and dedicated staff resources to manage inventory effectively.

Uh so we identified opportunities to improve disposal timelines, prioritize items already authorized for release, and establish performance goals.

So the second subfinding here has to uh um uh identifies opportunities to improve how quickly SPD disposes of property after it's been authorized for release.

So we found of all the items that come into the property and evidence room, 75% of the items require external authorization for um for disposition from prosecutors such as prosecutors at the district attorney's office.

So this limits control over when the items can be disposed.

However, once they are approved, SPD has much greater influence over how quickly the items are cleared, right?

So the as you'll see from the table, um there are we broke it down into uh different time categories for the amount of time items remained in the property and evidence room after authorization was provided.

So we found that more consistent monitoring of authorized authorized items, especially those pending over 60 days would help reduce delays and improve throughput.

Right.

So you see that red circle is around the items that are in the property that are in the warehouse, 61 to 90 days and then 91 to 180 days after authorization has been given for removal.

Um so we found that a more consistent monitoring of the of these items would help uh reduce delays.

Additionally, current procedures do not include clear performance goals for timely disposal.

So the pro so the procedures basically don't provide kind of a goal for property and evidence clerks to remove this stuff once authorization has been provided.

So we recommended that uh the SPD establish time-bound disposal targets and prioritize older authorized items to approve efficiencies.

So our fifth finding, we concluded that uh SPD's evidence and property division has implemented strong security controls uh to safeguard to safeguard evidence, particularly in high-risk areas such as firearms, narcotics, and currency storage.

So our testing found no instances of unauthorized access into the facility, indicated the current controls are functioning effectively.

Um however, the policies do not consistently require routine periodic reviews of access permissions and access lists.

So basically, without regular audits, we found that there's a risk that access permissions may not stay aligned with current roles in the future.

So we recommended that formalizing uh periodic access reviews to ensure permissions remain current, appropriate, and consistently enforced.

And finally, for our sixth finding, we identified that uh SPD's property and uh evidence section demonstrates strong performance in booking accuracy and error correction exceeding best practice benchmarks.

Um so across more than 143 items reviewed, the booking error rate was less than one percent, indicating a high level of accuracy.

When errors did occur, there were typically identified quickly and corrected within a few days through a structured process.

These processes align with best practices, and overall this reflects a well-functioning system.

So that concludes our presentation, and we're available for questions if you've got any.

Okay, thank you, Mr.

Christensen.

Are there members of the public who have any comments on this item?

Uh thank you, Chair.

I have no speaker slips for item number three.

Okay.

Uh commission members, uh, Commissioner Corps.

That was a lot of information, so thank you for that.

Holy cow, right?

That was a lot.

So um regarding the collection of uh items for the homeless.

How long so they collect items for whatever reason, and then when can they come back and get their items?

So typically um the items are are uh collected at the point of incarceration and put into the facility.

Now they can come get the items immediately once they are released from the incarcerated state.

Um I think what we found, um, what we were told through various um through various interviews is that the location of the property in evidence warehouse is not close to the jail, which makes it somewhat difficult for individuals who are homeless to get over there and get it.

There are issues with trauma where an individual who you who has significant trauma weight may not want to engage with the police immediately after um being incarcerated.

So I think the the simple answer to your question is immediately upon their release, they they can go get it.

But then according to your chart, it showed that there was stuff there that was years later.

You know, and I know we can't specifically say was this homeless or was this a different type of crime, but so it so at some point the evidence or the um the accumulation of items is going to be destroyed.

That's right.

So I think um, so I think the chart you're referring to.

It was the one that you had with the red circle.

Right, is general evidence.

So that's looking at all evidence of all different kinds.

Right.

I was supposed to say I know you couldn't specify right.

So I think so.

The uh the homeless evidence is um documented under what is what the police department categorizes as safekeeping.

And if there is a timeline established by, if I'm not missing if I'm not mistaken, it's the California Civil Code that requires um the property be held for a certain period of time.

If the individual um does not come back, then the item is either uh dispos it's destroyed, it's it um it's sold, or um yeah, it's it's thrown away.

Because I feel like I hear a lot about that, you know, property is taken and that they can never get it back.

The point is people can get it back if they want it.

Once they are let out of jail.

They um they can.

Okay.

Just confirming that, because it sounds I I hear a lot where property is taken and then they just can't seem to get it back.

So they can get it back as long as it wasn't illegal, drugs, guns, or whatever it might be.

Right.

I think what we heard from both well from what we heard from shelter operators, what we heard from people that uh social scientists that study um homelessness from members of the impact team, from representatives of the uh of the um of the evidence and property section, is that there are hurdles to individuals getting there to get the property back, right?

Now that of course is not necessarily the police department's responsibility.

Um I think uh based on some of our benchmarking, what we found is that other cities have tried to take a more proactive and as they describe it, a more humane approach to trying to put these individuals in a position to be able to reach to retrieve their property.

For example, um the city of Evident, the city of Anaheim and um the county of Santa Clara are now as discussed in the report, are contracting out with a service provider that will meet the impact team on the point of incarceration.

They will take the property, store it in a warehouse, and give the individual a card.

When the individuals are retreat in uh release from incarceration, they contact the warehouse and they come back and deliver the items back to that person at when they are when they are released.

Now the impact team and DCR have been consulting and are moving towards exploring a contract of that nature.

Um, however, nothing is finalized yet.

Well, it looks like that might save money, so that probably would be a good thing.

Um all right.

I just I just wanted to make sure that people can get their stuff back if they want it.

I understand that there's hurdles to getting it, but they can get it back if they want it.

It's not like it's stored and then destroyed, and they don't have the opportunity to get it back.

All right, well, it looks like SAC PD is doing a good job.

Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner.

Uh Vice Chair Johnson.

Um, thank you, sir, very much for that report.

Um, my question piggyback on Commissioner Corps is on um since it's centralized where the um unhoused um are having their things or whatever valuables they may have, maybe they have loose jewelry or whatever they may have that's taken into now um possession of the police department and now taken out to a warehouse location.

Um have you had any complaints?

I know we're always complaining, somebody's always complaining, but you have any a lot of complaints of people saying, Well, it just was hard for me to go get my stuff, it was hard for me to get there to get to it, you know.

Um, and eventually they just destroyed it, or eventually I just couldn't get it back.

Um have you received any volume of phone calls saying that I'm coming and get it, and then you know, within week or two of tracking them and saying they didn't come and pick it up, so when are they gonna come and pick it up?

You know, are we just holding on to it?

Well, I think that's a concern is that um in many cases that it is being held on to until the uh until the police department is legally required to hold on to it, right?

So I think one of the things that we heard from both DCR outreach workers, from shelter operators, um, and from the police themselves is that um what you have is when an individual is incarcerated, they separate out personal belongings, um the valuable stuff versus the stuff that is not that valuable.

So um in most cases the stuff that they do find most valuable, they it does go into safekeeping.

Now, this can include um identification, birth certificates, medicine, family, heirlooms, um, and in instances where they don't go back and get it, that stuff that that stuff is destroyed.

Um now we don't have statistics on um how many times or the rate that that does occur.

However, um it is significant enough that basically everybody that we talked to regarding this issue said it's a problem.

Okay.

Um my other question was in regards to um to the audits you have done on some of the stations.

Um are some of the stations trying to upgrade their storage areas, their containing areas to where um it's it's not so much open and and um it's kind of put away where they can just not just pass by a door on its way out and be in access to it, whether they have to go into that area to pick it out to really um to go into the area to pick out evidence or whatever they need to get to to get to it.

Um some stations I guess are not large enough, some stations are not able to have those type of places where they can have it all racked up and placed in the area, and it might be a certain areas this of the station located.

So are some of our stations kind of trying to upgrade themselves to do it.

Um I think the uh this might be a question better suited for for um the department.

Good evening, Deputy Chief Bails.

Uh thank you, Commissioner.

First of all, I want to say thank you to the city auditor's office, they've been fantastic to work with.

Also, I just wanted to introduce um Captain Hansen and Liz Voggy.

Captain Hanson's uh the uh captain over investigations, and the property warehouse is run by Liz, um which is out of the uh investigations division.

Thank you for your question, sir.

Um so each of our substations, our patrol substations have a temporary holding area for evidence.

So a patrol officer, if they are booking evidence, they don't have to go all the way down to the property warehouse to do that, which is over off of Richards Boulevard.

Um they always have the opportunity to do that, but it if they're in North Sacramento or South Sacramento, they can do that at one of our substations.

Those are temporary holding locations for evidence, they're not permanent.

So what happens is several times a week after an officer writes in and books in the the evidence, the chain of custody is established through that report and through that um evidence being booked in.

It's locked into a locker, which is also in a secure building, which is behind the secure gate of the police department.

So there's several layers of security there.

Once that piece of evidence is there, it's entered also into our records management system, um, which tracks it separately than a written report.

It's also an electronic digital chain of custody.

Our property warehouse staff then responds to each of the substations and collects the couple days worth of evidence, putting it into their chain of custody, cataloging it, transporting it to the warehouse, and then putting it into the warehouse with a catalog of where it's located in there.

Currently, there is no infrastructure resources available to either um upsize that or increase um physical infrastructure security at those locations, but they are at very adequate at this time.

So is this a pretty good process at the time to maybe that you would like to continue to keep going this route this way rather than trying to upgrade stations, substations to house um for certain periods of time, evidence they have.

I would love any resource that you guys can encourage.

Absolutely.

Yeah, um, we're always looking to improve infrastructure.

Um, some of our substations are very old, you know, inside the city.

Uh so we do the best we can with what we've got just to that very topic of the ammunition.

So ammunition, um, we concur.

We would love to store it in a fireproof lockered separate area.

Um, it is currently stored behind several layers of security.

No officer is authorized back their only property warehouse, and it's through two different sets of uh key card access controls.

However, the auditor is absolutely right that fire-rated um storage is the industry best standard.

Um we would love to do that, but we don't have the resources available to try and do the infrastructure um you know improvement to do that.

Um not only that, but just increasing capacity altogether.

As you can see, we're um to the gills, so to speak, um, and we are basically restrained by how many people we have that can work for us and process and the area in which we have to store it.

And as you heard, there's a lot of legal constraints and mandates that we have to meet in order to um maintain uh not only the chain of custody for evidence, but then all of the property that we take in that's just for safekeeping to get that back to people.

But I was asking that for the reason that because we are looking at the MUE type of thing, and um knowing that each station possibly has certain MUE equipment um on in their station.

So I know that um access to that um is is needed um and you can't really have too much going on in certain areas, like you said, certain areas you can go into, certain areas you cannot go into.

And um, and I know our officers are trusted and and to do their job and to know how to come in in and out.

And that's why I was kind of looking at where I say, well, why would we need additional cameras when we're you really you know the we're the police department, you know.

Well, we uh we love to not only hold people accountable but hold ourselves accountable and then audit that accountability process.

So um we are always um like the briefing that Captain Buchanan gave tonight with our inspection standards team.

We are look always looking for opportunities to be transparent and make sure that we are catching any trends early and often if there is an error or if there's any malfeasance altogether.

Thank you, Deputy Chief.

Appreciate it.

Okay.

Um next I have uh Commissioner Lewis.

Thank you again for um for your your um explanation and for the audit as well with your team.

My one question is, and I guess I just wanted to make sure I understand there's a difference between when an unhoused person is taken into custody, there's a difference between evidence related to whatever the reason they're being arrested and their property that they obviously don't like have a home or whatever to leave at.

Is is that what's what the issue is with the storage?

It's their actual property, not stuff that they're that are needed for legal reasons or whatever, just their actual property.

Right.

I think I understand your question.

So when a let's say the impact team goes out to do an enforcement action, um typically an individual who is experiencing homelessness in one of these actions has a lot of belongings.

Um now the uh the police department is not able to take all of that, right?

So typically what happens is that um the impact, the uh representatives of the impact team as well as the DCR outreach workers will help the the homeless individual with the person experiencing homelessness separate the stuff that is important to them that they want to take.

Now that stuff is taken and booked into the property and evidence work.

Yes, gotcha.

And so the rest of it is not really germane to what yeah, to to what we're discussing here.

So it's not necessarily, I guess when we use the word evidence, I'm thinking, you know, evidence of a crime or whatever evidence.

This is simply we're holding their property, and for whatever reason they've been unable to the length of time, as Commissioner Corps is pointing out, you know, there's various reasons why they've not been able to go back right away and get it, but it's not something that's germane to a case against them, per se.

No, no.

Okay, that was my question.

Thank you.

Okay, thank you.

Uh, just a few questions that I have, um, Mr.

Christianson.

First of all, I mean, when I read through the report as well as through your presentation, and I see things like all uh data shows 99.6 percent.

Uh consistency supported, it lets me know that this is a fairly high level well ran uh machine in terms of the work that we're uh that our team is doing at SPD.

Uh the one that really stood out to me that I definitely think from our seat, our community would be most accurate or most concerned about is the high book in accuracy and the terms of errors are rare, and I think that is something that uh cannot be an understatement.

And when there are errors, your report says it's corrected within two to seven days.

So I think for me, those are some things, uh a few other things in there too, that just stood out to me as um what you would want to see.

I mean, that's the kind of information that you think that you would want to see from um uh SVD.

So uh good job on that to the team over there.

A few questions is when you make the recommendations.

What are the process for the recommendations that uh you make?

So you tell the team, you give this information, what's next?

So um we follow um generally accepted government auditing standards, which lay out a recommendation and a recommendation follow-up process.

So what happens is when we make recommendations, the um the client or in this case the police department um are invited to respond to each one of the recommendations.

Now, what you'll see in the back of the report um is a what's called a management response.

This begins on page uh 40.

Now what it basically states the recommendation and the department responds whether they agree, um disagree, partially agree, or are neutral in the um response.

They include a um in most cases a timeline for the remediative action to take place once that happens, we enter this information into what we uh what we have is a recommendation follow-up portal for our recommendation follow-up process.

So twice a year, we reach out to the to the department on recommendations that are still open and request an update on the status of the implementation.

We come back and provide a report to on on that to the budget and audit committee and then the city council twice a year.

Okay.

Great, thank you.

And then I guess my my final question is this is how can this commission, how can this body add value to uh these recommendations of the work that that you've done?

Um I think we are we have tried to note that uh in relation to our objectives, um, kind of what we're finding.

I think that um you know should you be so inclined as this goes through the budget and audit committee or to the city and council if a representative wanted to come and show your support to the police department or support that these recommendations be implemented I think um that would be I think that would be helpful.

Great thank you for that are the other commissioners that have any comments okay very thorough report appreciate it.

Thank you very much and uh commissioners this is a receive and file so thank you so much for that uh Mr.

Christensen all right our next item on the agenda if I could get my notes here again our next item is the establishment of ad hoc committees for the proposed uh 2026 uh work plan uh and so this item is really uh commissioned for us to discuss and just really to for you to offer your interest in uh working on one of the ad hoc committees I will make uh the appointment um of those committees but this gives us an opportunity to discuss it so with that being said clerk are there any members of the public who wish to discuss this item thank you chair I have no uh speaker slips for item four okay uh so just to remind uh all of us you know our work plan uh really comes down to what I call three major areas one is the outreach uh and events ad hoc committee the second is the policy and procedures ad hoc committee um I feel like our standing one is always the military equipment use uh committee and the planning and I will say that one needs to probably start their work fairly soon and then the final one uh that we added this year to our work plan uh pending its approval is an annual uh an annual report work group so it's a group of us to work on the anger report so that we know uh that all voices are captured uh in our annual report um so with that being said I'll stop there and see if there are uh comments questions concerns or maybe you're just jumping to say hey I want to be a part of that ad hoc and uh just share your interests with me okay I have commissioner lewis first um thank you uh chair I for one am glad that we kind of condensed down into two committees versus I think we we had like five or four whatever um and I think that um the addition to our work plan is is a good idea because I what I understood in the past was that the chair and the vice chair just kind of huddled together and they just had to make it happen but I think a committee at underneath that happening will be good and I think that there's a enough of us where if we have the two committees that those things particularly the MEU because we need to get going on that are good so absolutely I I agree with our work plan and I agree with the two ad hocs.

Commissioner Corps I think I just felt an earthquake anybody else feel that okay just making sure I just thought it was a little rumble I was like I have too but like a six point okay so let me just confirm we're gonna have the outreach and events the policy and procedures and the MEU and I I would say that I feel like the MEU can be a part of the outreach and events.

Okay so those so it's I just wanted to you kind of said them separately but that's gonna be part of that one.

Okay so we technically like like Commissioner Lewis said there's two with that final group being a work group around the annual report which would include the chair vice chair okay probably another member okay all right just making sure um so are we so then half will be on the first one and so we have to make sure we don't have a quorum correct so city attorney how many can we have on each ad hoc uh Jacob City Clerk it's gonna be a maximum of five so maximum of five so my uh I'm sorry Commissioner Corps are you nope I'm done uh so I guess my uh question is just to entertain any interest from uh fellow commissioners of which ones you're like hey uh whatever you do appoint me to that one if not then you'll just be left to the chair's appointment okay it's like either speak up or I'm just gonna well I feel bad that was I mean you don't have time to be doing all this so since my previous ad hoc committee we were trying desperately to get some type of onboard

If not, then you'll just be left to the chair's appointment.

Okay, I will see it's like either speak up or I'm just gonna well.

I feel bad that was I mean you don't have time to be doing all this.

So since my previous ad hoc committee, we were trying desperately to get some type of onboarding and training taking place.

I will continue to be on that committee.

So that would be under our policy and procedure.

Yes.

And if anybody would like to join me, I'm taking requests.

See anybody jumping.

We have to do that.

How about if I nominate how about if I nominate um Commissioner Gianulius, who's not here?

You won't take nominations, but I'll take the interest.

Okay.

Did I say that correctly?

I will ask her, and I'm sure she will do it.

If anybody else wants to join me.

I'll join.

Oh, thank you.

Okay.

So I have three people.

Um I would be interested in the outreach and events ad hoc committee.

And I, if I'm correct, you you also helped last year leave the charge on MEU, which is a future item at that.

Okay.

And yes, where I'm at.

I never know what to do there.

Last year, Commissioner Lewis.

We were told from the beginning, obviously there have you know, we can't have too many people because of quorum, but then it was like at the last minute, we were told that we could attend the meeting if we wanted to.

So I don't know that was a little why and I I just have because I knew I couldn't go originally.

Because we ended up with four of us there.

But but there was an email that came out from Chair uh Kim at that time.

It was like the day before, and she said, okay, if anybody wants to attend the MEU meeting, you can.

And I was a little bit confused because I know we couldn't be part of the planning.

Yeah, I'm not sure.

Is that the way it's gonna be if we don't if we're not part of the out the outreach ad hoc, will we still be able to attend the meeting?

Uh city attorney.

I don't know what meeting you're doing.

The MEU, the MMU community meeting.

You cannot, unless it's a public meeting.

No, it is the public.

It's a public meeting.

As long as it's public, it's agendized.

You guys can do that.

Oh, then anybody can go.

Because you're still a citizen.

Right, right.

That's what I was thinking, is like we're sure we're kind of told from the beginning we couldn't, and then like I said, the day before we were.

It has to be an official public.

No, it is.

It is the MEU.

It's the military equipment use policy forum that we have to have every year.

But I was gonna say I think this topic is best discussed under item six, which is our MEU outreach planning.

So if we could just hold that, because I think what you're probably gonna share with us is that it needs to be a brown act compliant meeting, not just so we'll wait till we get to that spot.

Yes, sir.

But please hold on to that.

Okay, are there any other interests before?

Commissioner Salazar.

Yes, I'd be interested in the um outreach and events ad hoc committee.

Okay, the outreach.

Great, thank you.

Okay.

So if uh uh a few questions, uh I'm sorry, Vice Chair Johnson.

Um you can just put me in on both of those committees.

Okay, we can have it.

And just curious, is there anyone just itching to join the vice chair and myself in writing the annual uh report and work plan?

I mean, I'll join on that.

Okay, great.

Okay.

Um this is just maybe a uh a question for uh the clerk or the attorney.

The time uh either one of you know the timeline for the approval of our work plan, and can the ad hocs initiate their work before the work plan has been approved?

I know that's a very complicated or complex question.

question for uh the clerk or the attorney the time uh will either one of you know the timeline for the approval of our work plan and can the ad hocs initiate their work before the work plan has been approved i know that's a very complicated or complex question i've asked um as chair uh per the guidelines of the um the administrative guidelines of the city clerk you can create a um an ad hoc during the meeting and appoint and appoint folks um for a a limited purpose um if which you can do now if that purpose is not approved by the p and pe committee they don't want you doing that work and to go back to the drawing board on that then that would likely need to be dissolved immediately um however uh and not to speak for them if this if if this is under the uh the the the city code is the scope of your work i don't see why that would occur okay okay so with that being said the chair then will um appoint to the outreach and events ad hoc commissioner uh lewis commissioner salazar commissioner johnson or vice chair johnson and that is the 2026 outreach and events yeah 2026 thank you let me make sure i say the 2026 outreach and events which will include the meu uh planning uh and then the policy policy and procedures ad hoc will be commissioner corps can commissioner gianulius i only said that like tentatively because she's not here commissioner griggs and vice chair johnson and then the I'm sorry that's the 2026 policy and procedure ad hoc and then the 2026 annual uh report uh will be uh chair uh sample vice chair uh johnson and commissioner lewis okay all right so is the order I don't know if that's what you say at the end of that but we're gonna go with it okay thank you very much all right our next item there's uh one part to it I think yes I don't know if you wanted to have your ad hoc committees uh duration for less than a year because I think that was the second part of your item so they can be um from when you establish them they normally expire a year out but I think you indicated it's yes thank you so these ad hocs thank you um uh city attorney these ad hocs would be um through December 31st 2026 so they will end at the end of this term and so the next chair will appoint did I get that yes uh so the period of time will be April through December 20 excuse me December 31st 2026 that being said uh per the city clerk's administrative policy there still will need to be in a staff report for a dissolution of each of those um each of those ad hoc committees um that has a a summary of the work that was accomplished by the uh by the ad hoc uh yes these ones at the end of the year and then the the old ones from from last year are pending uh but that will be brought before you on the consent calendar uh at the next meeting got it okay thank you so much city clerk all right thank you for that cleanup item there so that we can move forward uh our next item is commission outreach to council members council members and may I'm sorry is that a uh so this item was agenda my apologies uh this item was agendized to take a motion however um I'll defer to um the city attorney the administrative policy doesn't require the chair to have to uh um make a mo call for a motion to create the ad hoc committees and appoint members to them uh do we need to take this as a motion or or can that be dropped it at the will of the chair it can be dropped withdrawn okay so uh we'll withdraw that part and we'll just say that those are the new ad hocs thank you for that thank you definitely appreciate all keeping this legal and and out of trouble we're sitting here with the police okay uh next we're gonna move to uh item five commission outreach to council members and mayor um this is to discuss strategies for commissioners to reach out to city council members and the mayor concerning the work of this commission uh are there m any public comments on this item thank you chair i have no speaker slips for item five commission outreach to council members and mayor okay uh so i'd like to turn this item over to vice chair johnson who is going to uh lead this discussion mr both okay um i um suggested that um that we all as commissioners um find a time on our our our councilman's calendar um to just sit with him and um maybe update him on where we're at as um commissioners and also

Okay.

Uh so I'd like to turn this item over to Vice Chair Johnson who is going to uh lead this discussion.

Mr.

Bolsonaro, um I um suggested that um that we all as commissioners um find a time on our our our councilman's calendar um to just sit with him and um maybe update him on where we're at as um commissioners and also to um receive feedback from him um receive feedback from them um regards to um what they feel that as commissioners that what we ought to um be looking for or to be looking at in regards to um presently what they have in hand, which was uh reports to them, or whether it be something that's coming down the pike.

Um I had a chance to speak with my um councilman um for an appointment, and the appointment was set up as um police commission um Johnson to speak with um councilman on matters of police commission, and so we were able to go into discussions um in regards to um update him where we're we're at and what we're doing um as far as up till now on the commission, and then to hear his feedback on us being a uh body that's um a vehicle that they are very well loved that we're we're doing what we're doing, but also in the future to let us know that possibly there will be more um for us to um to be responsible for on recommendations from them in the future um in the near future.

So that's why I want us to maybe kind of tag in with your the councilperson, find out exactly um what their feelings are as far as their city council, the city council persons, and um to find out exactly uh what do they see us as individuals representing their district um to be a more concerned about uh rather than just what's on our present agenda?

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Uh we do have a speaker, Commissioner Corps.

Thank you for that.

Um I am all in support of doing this, and I think I mentioned at the last meeting that it's so important to be uh I mean a council member or the mayor elected you to be on this position on this commission.

So it's your responsibility, our responsibility to reach out to them, share what's happening, um, gather feedback, whatever it might be.

And I think at the last meeting when I was here, I would shared that my council member and another council member, so Phil Plucky Baum and Eric Garrett were hold holding a joint community meeting, and I asked to attend, not asked.

I mean, I was gonna I was attending, but then I sent um Commissioner Plucky Baum a note and just said, I'm gonna be there.

Would you mind just introducing me at the event if anybody had questions?

I think there was probably a hundred people there, maybe over at the police department was there.

Um there was other um city entities there that had tables and little chis and stuff they were handing out, and so he introduced me at the beginning of the meeting, just saying that I was his representative on the police commission, and I cannot believe the number of people that came up and had questions.

So it was so nice that I'm glad that I did that, and you'd be amazed at the number of uh people just in the community that had questions about what do you do and how do you engage with the police department and what exactly does that look like?

And so I really appreciate you saying that, Commissioner Johnson.

And so what and if you go to each um council member, many a times they have a monthly newsletter and they're sharing all their events that they're gonna be doing that month, and you can just ask if you I mean, obviously, time is of the essence, probably can't go to a lot of the events um because we're all busy, but if there's something that you can attend, because they would love to have you there and introduce you and say who you are.

So I thought that was great.

I had no idea so many people are gonna come up to me and have questions.

I was like, wow, it was great.

Thank you.

Uh Commissioner Lewis.

I think another thing that we can um address with our councilperson is our need for staffing for this body because that is something that's decided by city council.

So if we in our meetings with them can impress upon them the need for us to have city staff um reiterate it a couple times, maybe then perhaps it can be something that will eventually be able to get the full committees council's attention so that we can move forward in that.

Then perhaps it can be something that will eventually be able to get the full committees council's attention so that we can move forward in that.

But I agree with you.

I think getting on their um their calendar is you know, I'm I'm lucky that I live next door to my councilperson, so it's like waving over the fence.

Hey, but you know, get on your calendar and you know sit and have that that conversation with them.

Absolutely.

Okay.

Uh and I think that you know, for me, when uh the vice chair brought this up, this really sounds like a very important role for all of us as representatives to be able to build that relationship.

And I think this also gets to a spot that this commission has been asking for for some time is how do we have a meaningful connection with our city council with the mayor, and so I think this is a great way for us to do some one-to-one outreach to those who appointed us, and so hopefully we're able to hear their priorities.

We're able to share with them our priorities uh as we kind of work together.

So thank you uh so much, uh Commissioner uh Vice Chair Johnson for bringing this forward.

Um we would like to uh just say that um from vice chair and chair, we would like for you to prioritize this, and uh I think what did we say within the next two months?

We would like everyone to have met with their uh their appointing individuals.

So uh definitely uh encourage you to to do that work.

Uh we won't have a formal agenda item on your report backs, but feel free during commissioner comments or other times to uh share that information in terms of your report backs.

Uh are there any other uh discussion or questions about uh this uh item?

Okay, thank you.

Uh moving to our next item six is our proposed military equipment use MEU outreach planning.

Uh this is to discuss and provide direction on outreach priorities and strategies related to the city's MEU policies and community engagement.

Uh this uh item uh really will inform the work that's gonna uh happen in terms of our outreach and events uh uh ad hoc.

So uh with that being said, are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item?

Thank you, Chair.

I have no speaker slips for item six.

Okay, there are no speakers, and so uh commission, this really is our opportunity to kind of talk about our MEU.

Uh we know that we need to uh very quickly start getting the planning happening to start getting the outreach.

Uh last year's our colleagues and at SPD were very helpful in us getting this information out.

So uh I'll stop there and uh Commissioner Corps.

I'll now go to you for your your question that you were asking earlier in terms of our involvement engagement.

So just confirming that if it's a public meeting and it is that even though we wouldn't go as part of the commission um that's part of the planning, we could go as an attendee as a community member.

So no, um, you have to be in thank you for that clarification because I kept saying public meeting, and I do mean a brown act body meeting, and you're limited to where you can have those spaces.

So you it have to be agendized, and I think it has to be here and unless for certain circumstances because it's you're discussing a matter that's within your purview.

So you it it have to be a meeting like this.

So I wonder why last year we got an email saying at the last minute saying if anybody from the commission wants to attend, we can.

It just so happened I couldn't because I was not available.

I was not aware of that email, so I I can't speak to you member.

She said yeah.

I figured she found out something that the rest of us on the committee.

So if I'm not on the ad hoc committee, I can't go as a community member to a meeting that is at a community center.

Uh just to a meeting that's discussing subject matter under your purview.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So the only uh council commission members that should be at the ME were those of us on that committee.

Yes, unless you want to join the committee.

No.

Yeah.

Which I'm already on a committee.

Unless you want to, it's it's not really about the committee.

It's it's just the quorum hearing a matter.

So if there's only three people on your committee.

And there's so then technically we could before the event, we can say, does anybody want to go?

Right.

Perfect.

As long as we make sure that there's not.

Not more than that.

Okay, well that makes sense then.

I'm fine with that.

Okay.

Okay.

So not that I will uh throw that out there, but you you have three on the committee, but I will attend the MEU as chair, so really you would have one more kind of let Karen huh?

Oh I mean, I'm just I would have liked to have gone.

I know it depends on what the date is.

I might be out of town.

I don't know.

No, Karen, you can't be out of town now.

You're you're you're you're you signed up for this.

Uh so uh one of the questions I I have, and maybe this is something that Commissioner Lewis or uh Captain Buchanan can answer.

What is kind of our timeline?

Because I know it's very short that we need to start getting these on the books soon.

So did we did we did we did they fix the condensing time coming to the legislature?

Yes, that did that is has been that did pass.

We're a little crunching timeline.

Well, that's yeah, so so we don't have to meet meet it, but I think we have the like the last week and last third or third or last week in July for the community meeting still us still there because we wanted to still have that time frame for feedback to be implemented into it before I went to council if we had to.

Um the ordinance is then there I can pull up the exact time frame, but I'd be I would say let's be prepared before the third week of July to have it scheduled, and I think the biggest thing for that if you guys could uh come up with a location because that is the big biggest logistical concern for uh city city staff.

So third meeting of July give me a sec, I'll look up with the exact date or what the ordinance says.

Okay, uh Commissioner Corps.

So I know that for the past couple years it's been at the Oak Park.

I know that that's that's a great location.

I mean, it is it's I don't think you have to pay for that, right?

It's free.

Is it free to go there?

Yeah, so that's nice.

I mean, I don't obviously we couldn't go someplace where you have to pay, we have no money, right?

Um so that's great.

I know that a lot of people that have attended have not been from that community, but I know we like to have it in that community, or we talked about Del Paso Heights, um, because uh this is where a lot of uh the equipment is being used, right?

In in these two areas, because we would like to get the community to come out and give their um perspective on that for what it's worth.

I did speak to the um president of the land park community association, and they said they would be happy to allow us to use their location at the zoo, they have their meetings at the zoo, whatever reason, or at fairy tale town or something like that, and that we could use their location if we wanted to.

So I'm just offering that up.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, are there other commissioners that want to speak on this item?

All right, so I uh if I'm capturing what I'm hearing correctly, I think the first work of the outreach and events committee around the MEU is to let's secure a location and um secure a date so that we can start uh that that outreach in that work.

Uh I'm happy that uh in my mind for some odd reason I was under the old timeline, but I'm happy that we kind of have yeah, a little bit of a breather.

It wasn't just yeah, it was crunching.

Okay, are there any other uh members of the commission that want to speak on the proposed MEU planning other than we need to work on a location and uh get a solid date?

Okay, all right, moving to item number seven, uh which is the Sacramento Community Polish Review uh Commission follow-up log.

Uh this item is a receive and file, and this is if there's anything you want to add to the follow-up log that we have.

Uh if you remember at our last meeting, we kind of zeroed out the log so that we could begin to start fresh on it.

Uh yes, sorry, Captain uh Buchanan.

Uh it just has to be done before July 31st.

So are there any items uh that well sorry let me go backwards?

Are there any members of the public?

Uh thank you, Chair.

I have no speaker's list for item seven uh for the follow-up log.

Okay.

All right, commissioners.

Are there any uh items that you would like to see added to the follow-up log?

Okay.

Uh moving to our next item, staff and commissioner comments, ideas, and questions.

Do I have any commissioners who want to speak up at this time?

Uh Commissioner Corps.

I have two things.

Number one, um, what is what is happening with OPSA?

Are they coming to our meetings anymore?

Or I know that the executive director, I'm not sure what the title was.

Um, she left.

And so was Jody was the interim.

Jody is uh away.

I don't have the details on that.

So there is an acting, I don't know their overall structure right now, so I don't know them.

You'd have to refer to their office.

Okay, because I just feel like they were part of our meetings and now they're kind of gone.

Yeah, I would reach out to uh I could give you the point of contacts for either um the assistant um director.

I think that's his title, but Brendan.

Okay, if I I can reach out to you to get that.

Yeah, you can just reach out to me, I'll give you some points of contact, or I could connect you via email with a couple points of contact over there.

Okay, because I I know that um for our training and onboarding, would like to include them.

If you know okay, perfect.

I just didn't know what happened.

The other thing that I have really quick is that I know um Sacramento Police Department has their own community event days, or I'm not sure community engagement days, but those have not been um set on the calendar yet, right?

We don't have dates yet for those.

The citizen academy days you're talking about.

Uh I I am I'm not sure on the answer.

I don't know, but yeah, they haven't been scheduled yet.

Are we gonna have any for this year?

I'm not sure.

We sometimes we schedule them and we don't get attendance and we had cancel them.

I would assume, but I don't know for sure on the answer.

I could definitely find that out for you.

Okay, so I just wanted to bring attention to everybody on this commission that the Sacramento County Sheriff's Office does have a community academy.

If anybody is interested, it's a 10-week academy, and it's every Tuesday night from May 5th to July 7th, and you learn things, it's a you get a better understanding.

The criminal justice system, crime scene investigations, internal affairs, community policing, dispatch, canine, recruiting, blah blah blah.

Um, so if anybody is interested, I'm happy I printed out some extra little pamphlets on this.

Uh if they wanted to.

I was thinking about doing that, I'm not sure yet, based on my schedule, but I just saw that come on come online if anybody's interested.

And it's free, but you do have to apply by April 20th.

So if anybody's interested.

Okay.

Thank you.

All right.

Any other commissioners?

All right, just uh couple of um items that I want to uh share.

First of all, um it really goes without saying, I think our entire community has been impacted by the uh incident at um one of our local schools, which I won't name, but uh it did spark for me just a question of you know what opportunities are we looking at in terms of youth outreach and engagement, and at some point I think it would be worthwhile a discussion for us to have about how are we meaningfully engaging our young people.

It was a discussion that we had uh doing one of our sub-ad hocs of how are we really but uh it is something to um really think about about our youth, gun violence, and the impact that uh our young people are having.

So I'll leave that there.

Uh the other thing is District One, uh so that's the uh area that I represent or was appointed from, uh, will be having uh their community can uh conversations on this uh upcoming Thursday.

Uh our council member, uh Councilmember Kaplan does a great job of allowing all of her commissioners the opportunity to interface and interact directly with the members of the district.

So uh I'll be there.

It's gonna be at the North and Thomas Community Center uh representing um this body, and so looking forward to uh hearing from our uh community and um uh other residents.

Uh also I had the opportunity uh over the last couple of weeks to spend some time with our colleagues from Sacramento County, uh our counterparts over there.

So really a great opportunity.

Uh I'm excited about I think some things that we could do regionally uh with both of our over uh our community review bodies to continue to support uh uh our law enforcement partners here in the region.

So thank you, Commissioner Cho for that opportunity to sit down with you and the rest of the uh a couple of the team there uh from the county.

Uh finally, uh would like to just kind of offer, I think, from this seat as well as from all of us uh well wishes to uh our police chief, Kathy Lester, who you may have uh read, uh uh shared that she would be retiring after 32 years.

So please, on behalf of this body, uh share with uh Chief Lester that we appreciate, we wish her well uh in this new uh uh journey in this new chapter in her life, and so uh just wish her well on behalf of this group and thank her for her partnership and commitment uh with our body and the work that she has done uh over the course of these last 32 years for uh the City of Sacramento and the Sacramento Police Department.

Um it is uh my hope that this commission would have uh some ability to to help engage and help with the process as we move forward for a replacement and how we can lend our voice and add value uh to that very important work.

So uh we're really uh excited uh to lend our voice to that.

And uh please uh I don't know who gets communicated that to, but just know that we stand ready to step in that space and help in any way that we can uh with that.

Uh you may have seen tonight we had Deputy Chief Bails uh who was here, uh, who I believe will be at some point in May stepping into that inward role.

So again, very uh appreciative and looking forward to working together and continuing our work.

And finally, uh for those who don't know, uh, and again, youth have been on my mind, uh, but SAC State has uh a list of summer youth academies uh that our youth can get involved in this summer.

Uh and one of those academies is crime and punishment, uh theories of crime, and it is in their health and human sciences uh pathways.

So again, a great opportunity for our young people to get involved, to be active this summer, and hopefully uh learn a few things.

So, once again, uh those are just a few items that I wanted to share out.

Any other commissioners?

All right, is there any other questions, concerns for the good of the order?

Seeing none, we stand adjourned.

Oh, we're gonna be able to do that.