Chair, we're ready when you are.

Good evening and welcome to the March 5, 2025 disability advisory commission meeting.

The meeting is now called to order will the clerk please call the roll call to establish a quorum.

Thank you chair commissioners if you can please unmute your microphones.

Commissioner Patel.

Here.

Commissioner Barnbaum here.

Commissioner Greenbaum.

Present.

Commissioner Wilson is absent.

Commissioner Dyson here.

Commissioner Tizon Void here.

Commissioner Mercer is absent.

Vice Chair Ellis.

Present.

Commissioner Carr.

Here.

Commissioner Crowley is currently absent and chair Cramer here.

Thank you.

We have a quorum.

I would like to remind members of the public of the public and chambers that if you would like to speak on an agenda item,

please turn in speakers a speaker slip when the item begins.

You will you'll have two minutes to speak once you are called on.

After the first speaker, we will no longer accept speaker slips.

We will now proceed with today's agenda.

If you will please rise with me for the land acknowledgement and pledge of allegiance.

To the original people of this land, the Nissan people, the southern Maidu Valley and Plains,

Miwak Patwin, Wyntom tribes, Wyntom peoples and the people of the Wilton,

Rantoria Sacramento, only federally recognized tribe.

May we acknowledge and honor the native people who came before us and still walk beside us today.

On these ancestral lands by choosing to gather together today in the active practice of acknowledgement

and appreciation for Sacramento's indigenous peoples history, contributions and lives.

Thank you.

Now, if you will remain standing for the pledge of allegiance,

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands,

one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Our first business today is approval of the consent calendar.

Clerk, are there any members of the public who wish to speak on the consent calendar?

Thank you, Chair. We have no speakers for the consent.

Motion to approve the consent calendar.

May I get a second?

Second.

We have approval for the consent calendar.

Thank you, Clerk.

And that was a motion by Vice Chair Ellish and second by Commissioner Tucson Boyd.

Commissioners, if you can please unmute your microphones.

Commissioner Patel.

Yes.

Commissioner Barnbaum.

Yes.

Commissioner Greenbaum.

Aye.

Commissioner Wilson is absent.

Commissioner Dyson.

Yes.

Commissioner Tucson Boyd.

Commissioner Mercer is absent.

Vice Chair Ellish.

Aye.

Commissioner Carr.

Aye.

Commissioner Crowley is absent and Chair Cramer.

Aye.

Thank you.

The motion passes.

Thank you.

Our first discussion item for tonight is the housing element implementation program.

Okay.

Good evening commissioners.

Chair Cramer, my name is Greta Suess.

I am a senior planner in our community development department here with the city of Sacramento.

And I'm here to present to you on the city's universal design ordinance.

Tonight I will provide an overview of the ordinance.

Outline the scope of this project.

Review what we've heard from stakeholders during initial outreach.

Review some frequently asked questions about the ordinance and review a summary of proposed

amendments and end with some next steps.

The city's universal design ordinance was adopted in 2010.

It is based off of the state's model universal design ordinance.

This ordinance applies to new residential development of 20 units or more in the R1 and R1A zones.

It requires that at least one model in the development includes universal design features

that could be installed at the request of the home buyer.

The buyer could select any of the universal design options listed in the ordinance.

And the developers is required to provide those options at the buyer's expense.

In summary, the ordinance does not require that all universal design features listed in the ordinance be constructed.

They must just be available to purchasers in at least one model of each project.

Key features that are required to be offered include accessible primary and secondary entries,

accessible interior and exterior routes, accessible bathrooms on the route from the primary entry,

accessible bathroom on the route from the primary entry.

Oops, I think I just said that.

An accessible kitchen on the primary entry level, common use rooms, bedrooms,

and accessible routes to minst lamias areas or facilities.

Additionally, the other things that must be offered include conduit for the future wiring of assistive technologies

in all exterior walls and outlets at the bottom and top of any stairs to facilitate the use of a chairlift.

I mean, other general components such as rocker light switches and controls types of flooring raised outlets

and doors and openings for rooms.

Oops, sorry. Oh, I missed one slide.

I apologize. This was my last slide.

So ordinance challenges.

Some challenges with the existing ordinance are that very few buyers have requested installation of these universal design features,

only one to two known cases from city staff and clarification has also been requested of staff in application of the ordinance and projects that include multiple phases or series in larger projects.

The city's housing element provides direction to review and update the universal design ordinance to provide clarification of when and how the ordinance is applied.

And also commits the city to partnering with a RP and resources for independent living to increase the awareness of this ordinance.

So far, staff has conducted outreach to the following groups, home builders, such as individual builders and the North State Building Industry Association, resources for independent living,

AARP and the city's housing policy working group as stakeholder of over 40 representatives from various sectors.

In terms of responses that we got from home builders, I'll walk through some here.

When asked if they were aware of any homes and subdivisions that they worked on that were constructed with the features that were outlined in the ordinance, only one had requested or had noted that they had a purchaser request the features, all other respondents said no.

When asked if their organization ran into questions or complications regarding the scope and application of the ordinance, there were no major questions or complications, only suggestions related to how to apply the ordinance.

When asked if they believed the ordinance provided a benefit to their home sales, there were mixed responses with more saying no.

How is your organization as a home builder meeting the needs of an aging population?

Most builders cited complying with the California residential code aging and place requirements, but some are finding success in building active adult communities and

EDUs and junior ADUs as part of those communities.

When asked if there was anything the city could do to improve the current ordinance based on their experiences, most builders suggested that the ordinance didn't add much value beyond the requirements of the building code and suggested that they were meeting the intent of the ordinance in other ways, such as creating communities entirely marketed towards older adults rather than which was easier to implement than fitting requirements into their own community.

When asked if they were an older adult and independent living advocates, they were supportive of the current ordinance and were not surprised by the lack of awareness among organizations and buyers and they strongly supported increasing education around the ordinance and letting people know about it.

When we spoke to the housing policy working group about this, they had suggested for city personnel to be more focused on enforcement of ordinance requirements, interested, they were interested in finding nonprofits or funding partners to aid in the cost of purchasing these features and then suggested looking at the city of Davis's universal access code.

Moving on to frequently asked asked questions. So can the city require developments to build universal design features, not just offer.

The answer is, in short no, the state law requires that our local ordinance must be substantially the same as the model ordinance that HCD has.

And all universal design ordinances must be filed with the California Department of Housing and Community Development before they can go into effect.

How does this ordinance differ from the new home universal design checklist created by AB 1400 some years ago.

In 2003, this law required HCD to develop guidelines and adopt a new home universal design option checklist.

But this law does not require that builders offer universally universal accessibility features. It does require that they provide a list of features and only whether or not they are offered, whereas our ordinance requires them to offer them in at least one model.

How does this ordinance differ from the aging in place and fall prevention building code requirements.

Aging in place requirements are required to be built into all newly constructed one or two family dwellings.

These requirements represent the most commonly desired, easily achievable features such as larger doors, grab bar backing and switch and outlet locations.

The city's universal design ordinance provides the potential for a greater level of accessibility.

Moving on to proposed amendment summary staff proposes the following amendments to clarify the current ordinance.

First, we're proposing modifications to the scope and application section.

I'm removing the reference to the R1 and R1A zones due to current work underway to modify our city's planning and development code for consistency with our adopted 2040 general plan.

And adding language to ensure that residential development projects that include multiple development phases adequately meet the intent of the ordinance by offering at least one model in each marketed phase of the project.

We also suggest streamline the exemption language under section 15.154.060.

We also are proposing to exempt housing development projects that are subject to the California Building Code Chapter 11a or 11b, which have more universal design and accessibility requirements.

We only require universal design standards for powder room or bathroom facilities if a powder room or bathroom is offered on the primary entry level and only require universal design standards for common use rooms on the primary entry level if a common use room exists.

These last two proposed amendments mirror the way that the features are required of kitchens and bathrooms in the current ordinance.

City staff have spoken with both resources for independent living and aARP who is present this evening who have agreed to partner with the city to increase awareness of this ordinance to potential new home buyers by speaking at existing events that are organized by these organizations and also offering in person and virtual information sessions about the ordinance.

Tonight we are seeking commission review and comment of this ordinance in terms of next steps staff will bring a revised a revised ordinance for adoption to the Law and Legislation Committee and City Council this spring and summer.

This concludes my presentation and I'm happy to answer any questions. Also here with us is Daniel Valencia supervising engineer over our building plan track team in the building division.

Thank you.

Thank you so very much for your presentation. I think it's very important that people are able to make their homes or are able to find homes or it's easy for them to move around or have accessibility.

I guess one of the question my question that I have right now is does this program extend to let's say companies that own land but want to rent them out like if a company owns an apartment complex for rents it out to others.

I think it's an example if they are planning to build an apartment complex but came to you wanting wanting to use your program to make accessible apartments with your company as your company able to to provide them service.

So this ordinance only applies to new construction of essentially single unit dwellings or or doplex dwellings currently.

So it only applies to new new construction of projects that include 20 or more units so in an apartment that exists this would not apply.

So apartments would be regulated by the California building code and subject to 11 a chapter 11 a chapter 11 b for public housing and the accessibility requirements that are statewide mandates.

Thank you so very much. I will now turn it to Commissioner Barnbaum.

Thank you.

I will go back a couple of slides. Very here at the end of the presentation.

Where you discuss the names of the companies or organizations you are going to partner with I have a question on that while you get back to that.

I'll just say in a comment.

There are four people disabilities and older adults. If we can get to that end goal we are then providing accessibility and accommodation then to everybody.

Okay. So here's the slide.

You mentioned this here and at the near the very end of the presentation about American association with retired persons and resources for independent living.

I believe also you mentioned the building industry association.

There's one organization that has been completely left out from what I've been listening to and I think it's very important that they need to be included in this going forward.

And that would be the all to California regional center.

And to California regional center to what you mentioned on another slide is a nonprofit.

They provide services to clients, families and caretakers typically with developmental, cognitive and intellectual disabilities.

And as assessed prior to age 18 and if they are deemed eligible they receive services for life.

They just moved. They are now at 4151 East Commerce Way 95834 and they are in district one.

That is off of arena Boulevard near interstate five just north of a new Costco wholesale facility.

So Madam Chair if you are looking for some guidance and direction. Thank you for the presentation. It's excellent.

I would just make a friendly amendment to include in the discussions and be heavily involved on this topic including all to California regional center as you move forward.

Thank you.

Thank you so much commissioner will be sure to reach out to them as part of us.

Commissioner Greenbaum.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Madam Chair.

I was wondering if you could please go back to the slide where you are presenting the challenges.

It was in the very beginning.

And number two I didn't understand.

I was hoping you could will and I need to provide clear.

What's an example of a challenge that would follow under that category?

It's kind of hard to describe but essentially when home builders come in and they submit for master plans.

It's very common for them to phase out their work.

Say the first 25 homes they'll build in the first year.

The next 40 homes they'll build in the next year.

So it's broken out by phase even though it's the same product.

The way that it's done is kind of.

There are no guarantees that the model home, the master plan home that they've offered the universal design options on will be available in those subsequent phases.

Because it's all mapped out prior to so let's say a plan A home is offered with the universal design features.

It could be that they build all of those plan homes in the first phase, plan A homes in the first phase.

And then there are other models so plan B homes and plan C homes for the later phase.

What we're trying to do is make it a requirement that those options are available in a unit that will be sold in subsequent phases as opposed to just in that first phase.

I think that is that not part of the ordinance then?

It's not as clear in the language and it hasn't been as clear in the language since its inception.

And so we're really just trying to clarify it for our home builders so that when they come in for a master plan submittal, they're already aware of the requirements.

In the building division we get a lot of questions up front on when they have to offer the universal design options.

And there becomes some, it's gray.

And so we're just trying to make it a little more black and white for our customers and home builders that want to build in the city.

Thank you. Understood excellent explanation and excellent presentation. Thank you. This is very important.

Thank you commissioner Greenbaum, commissioner Boyd.

Hi, thank you for the presentation. Can you go to the slide please that list the modifications towards the end of your presentation.

The change is your planning to make.

I think the first one.

There are two slides.

So on one A, can you please explain what those references to R1 and R1A zones mean?

Yes, that's a great question commissioner.

So the city's zoning code establishes different residential, commercial, industrial zones.

So the city has a map where each of these zones applies.

So our single traditional single unit dwelling near meroids or single family neighborhoods is where you would find R1 and R1A zones.

So those zones currently permit one to two dwelling units per lot.

Aside from our newly adopted missing middle interim ordinance.

But this applies.

It's based making the ordinance apply to these zones essentially ensures that the ordinance only applies to single and duplex and to two unit dwellings.

So because our zoning code amendments might be removing reference to the R1 and R1A zones.

We just find it simpler to remove that requirement and then instead exempt projects that are subject to the California building code chapter 11 a and 11 b that would already be covering substantial universal design and accessibility features.

I didn't really clear that up for me. I'm sorry.

Is there a lay person's interpretation of what you just said?

I apologize. R1 and R1A zone is just an area of the city where single.

Understand that part.

Okay, so you want to remove the language that says this is required in those zones.

I don't understand why you would remove that language.

Oh, so it would it would apply to all projects then.

So including the areas of the city that now are permitting additional housing where previously only allowed one unit possibly to.

Correct. That makes more sense. Thank you.

No, that's okay. I just wanted to make sure I understand what we are commenting on.

And then the outreach if you wouldn't mind going to that how you're trying to improve understanding about this offering.

You mentioned ARP working with ARP and resources for independent living and you mentioned they are here both is somebody from both of those organizations here tonight.

So I think that's only a representative from the Sacramento area ARP.

So I would be curious to hear from these partners how they plan to share that information.

Like what would be an existing event organized by ARP where this information would be shared and would that just be speaking or would that be like collateral materials.

So we have intentions of having like specific like I would go speak or a staff member would go speak to ARP.

Did they want to come up to the.

Oh, sure.

We've seen you before. So.

I'm done. Angelo the regional director for ARP here in Sacramento and I'll leave my comments for later.

But some of the things that we actually already do is we offer workshops and trainings around.

You know things that you can do we call it home fit classes and they're one hour workshops where we do them in person we do them virtually and it's modifications that you can make to your home to make it easier to live there.

So some of the things I'll and even on the presentation are some of the recommendations that we make but we already have not only the curriculum in terms of the workshop but we have like a book that we hand out.

And we actually that many senior resource fairs for example distribute that we would have more of a concerted conversation with Greta and with the city to talk about what might be some other opportunities and how we can partner and bring that information out.

I think the other thing I would say to is that there's other opportunities in terms of like how we could partner with the city and do something maybe on a larger scale some sort of a fair or something like that where we could share information.

So a lot of different ways depends on the scope and the time and how we would want to do that or how in partnership with the city.

Okay. Absolutely. We're absolutely also looking for input from this commission if you have additional ideas.

I do.

So those examples really do depend on the potential new home buyer to come to a place to receive the information about these requirements.

Whereas we know if somebody is looking to buy a home they're going to be going to the builder's locations model homes looking at their websites information like that.

They probably will not be surfing the city of Sacramento's website or even ARP's website necessarily like what rules apply to where I live in regards to universal design.

So I would encourage you to consider if there's resources available to get this information out more of a public information campaign providing builders also with some of that UDL information.

So I would encourage you to consider if there's a lot of information about the local population at their model home locations where people are actually looking at these houses so they can better understand.

It sounds like ARP is doing a lot of education for folks that are connected already to them.

But you know you might be somebody my age looking to buy a new home and having that UDL information available to me might change the way I consider which model I'm interested in purchasing because I can look ahead and see oh it has these features.

So I would encourage you to consider if there's a lot of information available to get this information available to you.

And then I would echo Commissioner Bon Bombs. I'm going to say your name wrong recommendation in regards to all to regional center.

One of the communities that they serve our individuals was cerebral palsy and definitely would benefit from UDL in home. Thank you.

Thank you Commissioner Crowley.

Thank you. Thank you so much for hearing our comments. I already took the opportunity to send you an email so that I can I request a copy a separate copy timestamp for today so I can correlate it with what we're discussing today.

I participated in the age friendly community action plan development. So everything that you've presented on and what's being discussed right now has been addressed in a stakeholder, a comprehensive stakeholder report from March of last year.

I would direct our attention to that document as well because the conversation when the stakeholders were involved with the staff during the development of that plan.

There was very strong opinions in the community that builders and those of economic benefit. So there's a cost benefit conversation.

It was very clear from the community that the conversation becomes heavy on contracts and design and less on the utility and accessibility both in terms of economics and in terms of primary floor ramp access, curb access, parking.

So there's a lot of things that we've discussed and are captured in the age friendly community action plan. So I wanted to highlight that as an already existing document with stakeholder feedback.

There are nuances to develop to develop housing. When removing the codes, what it does is it allows people who are aging caregivers with their aging children or partners concurrently so you can have an 80 year old being the primary caregiver of a fixed 56 year old development only disabled.

So that's not only disabled person and then in addition there's a caregiver associated with the care of that disabled person plus the needs of the aging population.

So that is something that's a complex discussion and the more agencies that can give insight and come to the table because the, for example, when you have a AARP table, you have a crowd of people that comes and there's so much recognition, respect and

membership draw that alongside that AARP can only do so much to advocate and they do a lot. But then it requires the interaction and the encouragement of city organizations like we're discussing with the ordinance to have not just alter regional, which is accurate.

But there's more. So for example, what comes to mind and I was contacted by a constituent in the community and that's why I'm bringing it up, the regional center for volunteerism hands on Sacramento, HOS.

They have a and forgive me while I look at their website because their reference is DDSO. They're the developmental disability service organization. It's an organization within this volunteer community group.

So now you have a large organizational presence of volunteers to support those who are developmentally challenged on some level with AARP resources or community feedback or city resources, now having an actual plan to be able to implement the design.

So I wanted to add that that sort of community involvement then also means it would engage then the different types as was mentioned by the previous commissioners where there is the model.

It's not going to capture the needs of that person regardless of age. So it's age friendly. Yes, it's a different slang or vernacular for aging.

But the eight, but our commission is charged with aging across the spectrum, the lifespan. That doesn't often get captured when we have draft proposals.

So that is my call to action. And that's why I promised my comments with I've already emailed because with my involvement, I can interpret how the language of the age friendly community action plan was developed because I was part of that conversation.

And then also being able to relate how the removal of the R1, R2 requirement in giving access doesn't capture that the multifamily model which would be perceived.

So you have the aging elderly person with a child with a disability with a caregiver. That's not a multifamily residential housing.

But in the current community's language, there is limitations to access housing that this proposal then gives us an opportunity to review with you again so that we have the eyes of our DAC to say if we read through it one more time,

is it going to make sure that when a person goes into that room, gets the flyer talks to ARP, they're not going to be captured in a previous limitation of a housing element. Did that make sense? There is, there is language in applications of housing that is part of the resistance and the depression is too strong of a word, but limitation of access to find alternatives to satisfy what is the right way to be able to access housing.

So we just want to satisfy what statistically this proposal is going to provide outreach, but in practice, the access is a better word.

The access of being able to secure that housing in the model of that family unit so far has been defined as an exclusionary coding problem.

But now, without that sort of language, we've now opened it up to not only other aspects of disability, but that caregiving, the space required by regulation of a caregiver can now get managed because in order to have a quality of life, the caregiver has to be able to have their own space, access to a bathroom, a private room if it's 24 hours.

So, our new answers that don't get captured, but if we have an opportunity to provide feedback and have that lens here with such a robust panel of experts in our districts, it'll improve the ability of organizations like ARP and the other community resources, the DDSO, who may be all faced with different challenges, but when we get them together, they now have the stakeholder voice, and that's an opportunity to welcome you back.

I wanted to share that perspective that might have gotten lost in the internal discussions of moving forward such an expensive and timely future of the city in order to provide housing support.

Thank you for the effort and wanted to encourage that you reach out to our staff for the DAC again to kind of shore up and give one more look at what is being presented to the council or to the community, because that's a nuance that's not going to get captured in internal meetings.

It'll be exposed here, and it's valuable to know those subtleties. Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner Crowley. Commissioner Patel?

Hey, yeah. I resonate with a lot of the things that Commissioner Boyd was sharing and had some clarifications. The same side that she was on on the proposed amendment.

I believe it was the second one.

There you go.

A comment before that, just some clarifying. It'll be provided in one model in the marketing face.

Does that mean that the North Lake, we just built this new housing, and so they have the models available.

They are going to build out a whole model representing those features. Is that what that means? Or can you clarify that a little bit more? Is it just in the marketing material?

It would require them to in their development have one model that meets the intent of the ordinance. That could be they could design a model home that would display those features physically.

But they also through the ordinance if they do not do that, they have the option to provide both brochures and placards on the walls of the areas that those features would be where they would be offered.

So if it's not physically built, it needs to be clearly apparent either in the marketing materials. For instance, we like to compare it to if you are looking at the different backsplashes of your kitchen or cabinetry to choose from.

There should be information there on the universal design features for a given model.

Thank you for clarifying that. And I do wonder about it being in especially in those new big developments physically present and visible.

I think a lot of the things that Commissioner Crowley was saying. I recently have an experience looking. I think a lot of lots of different through a lot of so different community lenses who need this.

And I think that our elderly community as they're as they're aging out of their home might in laws their master suites on the second floor they couldn't they had they knew they they only think that they need to go to those 55 and up communities.

And when they go to those model homes and those new builds they're like, yep, this is what I'm going to need for the rest of my life or this is what I need to care for my elderly mother who's in her 90s.

And the same would you know the same flip coin for if you have a child with disabilities or you have, you know, those those needs, I think.

I wonder if there's a space where at least some of the features are represented in in a build because that seeing and touching makes makes it more real.

I wonder about the the marketing materials and how.

How clear they are is there some requirements around it being.

As clearly represented as every home or is it a little small box below with smaller sized pictures is is there equal access representation.

If you are showing the front door of of a home in that marketing material is the larger door space exactly the same in representation through that material is their equity there.

And I don't know if it does it already kind of have language around the equity of how it needs to be in that in that materials.

The current ordinance does not state language like that but we can do our best to include some sort of reference to that type of you know equal equally visible or equal access representation something like that.

I'm happy to take a look as we're revising the ordinance language to try to do something like that.

Two other clear one comment but one other clarification you talked about the bathroom access you know the ramp some of the things is the hallway width also a consideration we're in California and I come from two other states and we make the most of every ounce of space we have.

So our new homes have really small hallways and those homes that are built for accessibility.

They are probably before we got over populated in our state there they are much wider but it is a it's an access piece so if you if you have an accessible bathroom that has the wider doorway but you have a narrow hallway and a

little chair you're not going to be able to turn that wheelchair into that wider doorway it's still going to be a cumbersome event.

Accessible interior roots are addressed in the current ordinance.

And then the only other comment I had when commissioner boy was talking about the public information campaign and alter regional is I also wonder I absolutely echo those things and then wonder about finding the other nonprofit organizations that are that are expanding such as our best buddies group our best buddies group in Sacramento is a pretty new chapter maybe five years.

But it's a nationwide organization that supports the ID community it supports access but it supports events and and I wonder about things like they have an upcoming walk in April I wonder about having that information in those places because as I said people really don't know unless they go seeking so how is it how

is that information shared with community events that organizations hold that that will have a large group that need those access points.

I'm unfamiliar with that group but happy to connect with them and see if we could get some materials out at that event and if you know of other events happy to take those recommendations I think it is a challenge to try to locate where new home buyers will be so I think just getting the word out most broadly as commissioner boy was mentioning is probably the best effort but happy to have more concerted advertisement.

Advertisements at these types of events.

Yeah and when we say the ID community you know so she was sharing cerebral palsy our our down community and a lot of so those families those families with those those children or young adults they're all part of that organization they really support the they have even larger

outreaches for the teen and young adult age range and so that those are all kind of expanding home buyers.

Thank you.

Thank you commissioner Patel commissioner car.

Thank you.

Thank you for an excellent presentation.

My question was about where it's very said that builder suggested that the ordinance did not add much value so I was wondering in which term like what were they trying to you know it because in my experience what I have noticed is that when you're talking about the features of a home the builders are the people who are the no the push forward or the selling point for anything so in terms of outreach I believe in chairman sorry.

Commissioner boy talked about it and then commissioner Patel so I feel like builders will be your best bet and I would also say that maybe in involved association of realtors so whenever they are like making a sale you know they talk about it's you know the new features under this ordinance so I feel like that will add value to it too.

That's a great suggestion I think the question of value was pretty vague right the question that was in the survey was worded on the screen there so just asking it if it added value in general and so I think it's it's really I think up to their interpretation right I think it's this is more seen as you know another requirement that isn't often in places in every jurisdiction.

So from a builder's perspective perspective they might have you know the perspective of oh this is something that I'm not used to so you know it's something that maybe is is more of a needs need to check another box so it might not maybe they don't see it that way I think the for the question was maybe trying to be a leading question but you know it wasn't wasn't highly responded to in the most positive way but.

Thank you commissioner car.

A commission farm.

Farm farm.

Yeah thank you again one thing I want to mention about where I feel all to California regional center would be an expert and provide their expertise since you mentioned single family homes and not necessarily apartments.

So I think the staff you clarified about the thing with apartments and what regulations those have single family homes are essential for buyers that want to become staff members of the home to approximately house four to six individual clients receiving services that would be living in the home as part of service.

So this is they would receive based on their pre existing condition or their disability and the service their service coordinator would be able to provide them with as a place to live as part of the services they receive under their individual plan program or IPP.

And then wanted to ask a question of the chair.

Is there going to be any public comment on this otherwise I'm almost ready to make a motion but I don't want to make a motion until we hear public comment first.

We do have public comments for this item however there's no motion needed for this this is a review and comment item.

Okay except what I was going to include if you madam clerk wanted a motion is to include a all to California regional center the volunteer regional center DDSO and call to action brought up by Commissioner Crowley and best buddies brought up by Commissioner Patel included in the motion to staff and bring it to the full council sometime in the first half of June.

Again I don't believe this item requires a vote tonight it's just a review and comment.

Okay to staff I can defer to city attorney if I'm incorrect on that but okay then if you didn't need a formal motion then that would be my direction to staff that what I just mentioned that final comment.

There would yeah there would not be a motion on this but you're what you're doing is giving staff direction so you're there's no requirement for a motion to do what you've asked them or suggested that they do.

Okay thank you.

Thank you Commissioner Barnbaum vice chair Ellis.

Thank you.

Okay be brief because I think everybody kind of said already a lot of whatever's going to say anyway.

My one which I appreciate the first part is to the public comment I think this is one point where public comment is very valuable to us and so I do appreciate Commissioner Tucson void and kind of inviting that into the presentation.

And like pretty much everyone has said I think outreach to just two organizations isn't enough so I appreciate everyone has pretty much brought up every organization that I could think of but I know there are more out there so I would I would expect us if we're going to say robust outreach.

We should be talking to like a dozen or so or more organizations because there are other organizations that also partner with those that have been mentioned so that that would just be kind of put a button on that.

The one question I do have is why is this limited at 20 units because I could see developers go on 18 19 okay it doesn't apply so why 20 is that state law or just.

That number is not dictated by state law it could be lower but we didn't have a recommendation to change it but that could be input from the deck.

Yeah I that would be my recommendation if we can lower that number I would put it to one if we could but I could see going you know two three it more than five then it seems like a developer could easily skirt under it given.

You know the sizes of the different developments that are kind of coming along that have been mentioned.

I do believe the state model ordinance if I my memory serves me is at five minimum five the I think the reasoning is that they need a kind of economies of scale to provide like differing options and that I can understand so wherever the if it's state law then let's go there if we can go lower than if there isn't one there then you know but that would be my recommendation there.

And similar to a commissioner Patel have mentioned.

Oh gosh just escaped me.

You know looking at the model home issue really kind of bothers me because it's not necessarily a requirement that they have to have built something that people can actually see.

And touch and you know because you know oddly enough as a blind person I you know I need to see it like I'm not spatially where I can just like kind of envision it in my head and get it oh yeah I want to go in and I want to touch the things I want to move through the space so I can kind of get it better and a lot of these different modifications and different things.

I just if we could require that would be all the better I think in some way at least but again I I could see where state law may not allow that and kind of my final thing is.

Well two things you know these things are ungodly expensive I mean you know if you're trying to retrofit you know old build in this case we're talking new build you know it's a little less expensive but it's still a lot of money and to me that when I first you know it's available to purchase at an added expense to the person with the disability that kind of rubs me the wrong way.

I if I go to book a hotel room at the high it and I asked for the ADA room they're not going to charge me double because it costs them more to build out that ADA room right I mean that's kind of the same thing here but I get it there's an added cost to these things so it just kind of you know I know that laws law on this but.

How we can help and do better as a city in that way you know kind of and then similar to the chairs question at the beginning is a lot of our what we already have is old but like the some of our hundreds of years old but you know a few decades old and you run into issues where it's either cost prohibitive or just straight up impossible to retrofit a home.

And people feel the need they have to just I got to go do new build you know because to get what I need.

You know if we can mandate even if they it's not built into the project that more of the models that are available are built and designed in such a way where they could easily be added on later like you know this the

the the required about assistive technologies and stuff like that you know if we design it in a way and then it's not cost prohibitive for the next owner down the down the road who may want or the buyer may not want it when they first move in but

20 30 years later they may change your mind be like yeah I wanted that state a lift because you know I you know I thought it was a lot of money at the time but now I'm like I could really use it so there's those kinds of things that I would just mention but

all in all thank you for the opportunity to contribute and take our comments into consideration.

And thank you so much vice vice chair Ellis vice commissioner boy.

I just wanted to piggyback on your last comment vice chair Ellis I have a friend who's buying a new home and requested the builder that they install an ADA toilet instead of the standard issue and the builder said no that they wouldn't do it I mean and this is somebody

who would be willing to pay for that if that's considered an upgrade they said he'd they put in what it came with and that she could pay somebody to take it out and replace it with an ADA toilet so those are the things like even the folks who

are forward thinking and and aware of what their needs are on this is somebody who has I wouldn't say they consider some themselves having a physical disability but that is something that they wanted and they knew it

would help them live longer in that home and they asked you know there it's a new community I believe it's an Elk Grove so not so much Sacramento but but that was the response and so without any you know anything to support that need for accessibility

at the request of a paying customer you know these I think there's value in these comments and feedback so thank you.

Thank you thank you commissioner boy commissioner Patel.

I just wanted to kind of echo what commissioner Ellis had said I a lot of that was all in my head.

The phrase universal design is sort of something that I'm caught up on because in schools when we use universal design I don't look at my student who's visually impaired and say well you

know I'm not sure if you know what I'm talking about but I think that I'm not sure if you know what I'm talking about but I'm not staple in that

these choices but not you and I think that some of and you kind of couch the way you you you worded it it feels a little bit exclusionary and how do we help the language so

that I think that if a builder while it's different for them I know that many of these huge building organizations in our city and the those

around us they're building both a 55 and up community and a new build they they know the features and sure the hold bars and the added retro

fitting pieces may be an added cost because that's an added material for the building a slam to other universal design if it's

done smart what's good for one is good for all and so it being in one of their models and it being required may one also open

their eyes but also just like commissioner Ellis it is going to show families and potential buyers things they may not realize they need

to be a part of the community and I think you know commissioner Patel if there's no members of the of no if there's no more

commissioners wish to speak on this item I would like to move to public comment thank you chair yes we do have one speaker dawn

and again chair and commission members my name is Dawn Angelo and as I mentioned I am the regional director for AARP in the Sacramento area I am here on behalf of the nearly 70,000 AARP members here in the city of Sacramento to express our support for the

review of the universal design ordinance at AARP one of our top priorities is housing that helps create more age friendly communities we know that housing needs change as we age according to an AARP

survey 90% of adults eight 50 and older would prefer to stay in their homes as they age however as they do age they may begin to face obstacles within their

home that make living independently a challenge universal design is one way to address those issues universal design is an approach to home building remodeling community

development that centers on safety and ease of movement both inside and outside of the home it accommodates the mobility needs of all residents and allows older adults to age at home and in the

community is where they have strong social networks and a sense of familiarity by 2030 is projected that one in four Californians will be 65 and older and by 2035 the number of adults older than 65 will be greater

than those under 19 this means our housing stock needs to change in order to accommodate our aging population in some cases a few

simple changes can help meet the needs of older adults many universal divine features are inexpensive and simple to install while others are more complex and price

here but investing in a few small changes now can help an individual remain in their home longer a home that incorporates universal divine features such as no step entry wide doorways for wheelchair access and easy grasp lever style handles in place of door

and we're not only keep individual safe and comfortable in their home but also add value to the home older consumers will continue to be looking for these features as they may cause and choices in a competitive marketplace we are also committed to

thank you for your comments your times now complete thank you here we have no more speakers thank you so very much for your presentation and thank you to our public speakers and commissioners before we move on to our next item I want to welcome our

newest commissioners we have we have three new commissioners commissioners Ron bomb Patel and Wilson if you would stand up and please introduce yourselves

stand up just like I'm excited wants to go first hello I'm commissioner Michael Barnbaum and I'm the commissioner a pointy of

district two Roger Dickinson

hi commissioner Ashley Patel I'm commissioner pointy Karina Tal Montes district three

thank you and welcome welcome to the commission board we look forward to seeing your contributions and hear your thoughts and reviews

now we're going to move on to our next item and that is the pedestrian crossing enhancements

thank you

Hi everyone my name is Jevin Paulson I'm an associate electrical engineer with public works department engineering services and I'm

actually here to present two items, items four and five, pedestrian crossing enhancements

2025 and the audible signals phase two projects. They're both kind of simple projects and

similar in scope so Jesse actually thought it'd be a little bit easier just to present

both at the same time. In my presentation though I have audible signals phase two first so

should I skip ahead and then we can come back to that or I used to do them both at once

not sure which would be best. Okay I will skip to if you're able to do them separate

please. All right I'll go fast. All right pedestrian crossing enhancements 2025. This

project consists of four unsinitonized well not intersections but crossings throughout

the city that are going to be modified to add rectangular rapid flashing beacons. These

locations were based on our city pedestrian crossing guidelines usage data and comments

from the public. We have those four areas shown district two three and then two and district

four. So rectangular rapid flashing beacons or RFBs this is just a little snippet from

the federal highway safety administration. It's basically just like a regular crossing

sign but it has the two yellow indicators each with an LED source to enhance the

conspicuity of pedestrians at the crossing to drivers. The data that I was reading was

it can improve driver alertness and awareness of pedestrians by up to 98% so it makes a

really big difference in being able to see people as they're crossing. So besides the

actual flashers how these are activated are with these audible information devices fancy

push buttons. So they have eye detector which is a touchless actuation so if you're within

one to four inches all you have to do is wave your hand. It has an audible locator tone

to let you know where it is and it has a standard message when you activate it to let you

know when the RFBs are activated. These are just a couple pictures of some existing conditions.

I actually know that's from, sorry that was from audible signals. So this is an example

we have for the RFB currently installed on J-Street by the target at J-N-17. So each installation

requires a controller box for the RFB electronics which can be pull mounted either behind the sign

is shown or above it and we'll also have new flashing beacons and push buttons. This is the

proposed schedule and budget. We're estimating awarding the construction contract by this fall

getting into construction spring of next year and finishing construction by December of next year.

Any questions? Thank you very much for your presentation. Again, for that we have that these signs

are able to help convey, help people safely cross whether it's for those who are visually or

hearing impaired so it's very important that they also have cues to know when it's safe to cross.

I will now hand it over to Commissioner Barnbaum.

Yes, before the meeting I read through all the agenda items on our discussion calendar.

This one as compared to the previous one which I knew a lot of questions and comments would come

but this one looked very straightforward in the presentation on the online staff reports

and stuff. There's no public comment. Madam Chair, I would like to make a motion

moving the staff presentation out of commission and to the full city council at a date to be

determined by the city clerk and the city staff. For the record there are no public speakers for

this item and again the motion for this item is to review and comment. There's no motion needed

at this time. Okay, thank you. Thank you Commissioner Barnbaum. Vice Chair Ellis.

Thank you. I really appreciate these presentations and getting more of these, I always forget the

term but they're not the full lighted signal with the red yellow green but having at least

something that alerts drivers that are, you know, we can't, you know, for traffic flow, there's

the trade-off of the traffic flow, right? We want to keep people at speed to get the keep the cars

going and I get that and then but also, you know, people need to cross the street and you know,

if we, you know, resources and all that to put in, you know, a light at every single intersection

isn't necessarily necessary but just trying to get more of these in some of the more high

traffic areas so folks don't have to travel, you know, many times I plan my routes because it's

safer to cross that a lighted intersection but that also adds more time to get to where I need to

go because I may go out of the way to go down to a lighted intersection where I know it's safer.

You know, I do like the one that's outside of target that does help because, you know, J Street

is rather busy and granted yeah, there are lighted intersections at either end of J Street

from that particular spot but, you know, then I have to go that way in the back track, you know, so

trying to make more of these available as an alternative to, you know, so that way folks can

try to get places a little more expeditiously and but of course, maintaining them is a component

too. There are many buttons throughout the city that are non-functional, folks, you know, report

them to 3-1-1 and, you know, get told, you know, it's on the queue, it, you know, to get repaired and

things like that and budget constraints and all of that so it's, you know, that's the other part

of all this is trying to maintain the infrastructure is the other challenge that I recognize but I

appreciate your report. Thank you. Yeah, just to talk about maintenance, that's actually a really big

issue with these, especially with the solar versions because they have to replace the battery every

so many years. So these are actually all hardwired so we did try to eliminate some of that maintenance

to make it a little bit easier. Thank you, Vice Chair Ellis of Commissioner Boyd.

Hi, thank you for your presentation. Can you go back to your slide with how these, please,

with how these intersections were selected? And can you tell me, so they were selected by

guidelines? Can you tell me more about what those guidelines are and what comments from the public?

And also I would say while they overview images fine, I think for future presentations, I would like

to see the actual location, what exists there. So I'm going to ask you to tell me what's at those

locations as well after you tell me how they were selected. So what, I need more information of what

general guidelines are and what the usage data and comments from the public, for example,

what kind of comments were you getting? How are they coming to the city, that type of thing?

So I actually don't have that in front of me. I sort of inherited this project from our

traffic engineering department. I can, with Alex, gov. I could get that information for you, though.

I'm not sure about specifically which guidelines. So as far as the existing conditions,

at each site, Mary'sville and Maine, I'll just go one by one. Mary'sville and Maine currently,

there is an overhead mass-darm with, or like an overhead pole with a flashing beacon,

which we're trying to move away from. We're moving to these flashing beacons, which are a little bit

more visible. You mean the activated ones that are tied specifically to an event, right, as opposed

to constantly flashing? Okay. District three, San Juan roading, Gilamot Drive. It's currently,

I think, just a marked intersection. There's no existing infrastructure out there.

District four, at X Street, both those, I believe it's the same situation where we have a

marked crosswalk that's all there is out there. I guess my request would be for this item to

come back to the deck at a future meeting with more information about how these were selected,

since the presenter doesn't have that information tonight. So that would just be my request.

I support installation of these types of crossings, but I feel the presentation is lacking the reason why.

If I can add on to his comments a little bit, and regarding the comments from the public and whatever

complaints may have been received, that's in the hands of our traffic engineer, so we do not have

that tonight. As far as the pedestrian crossing guidelines and pedestrian usage data, that

reference on there, I can tell you that once again, our transportation division developed a set of

pedestrian crossing guidelines that looks at, or that basically has a table where you look at the

type of crossing, usually the number of lanes on there, the number of cars that are going through

the corridor, the number of pedestrians crossing, and it tells you what the appropriate level of

crossing treatment is, whether it's just a marked crossing, a flashing beacon, a pedestrian signal,

or a full traffic signal. So when we're looking at this and it's saying pedestrian usage,

pedestrian crossing guidelines, that's basically indicating that these individual locations were looked

at, the number of lanes was appropriate for the, or for use of a flashing beacon,

and the amount of pedestrian crossing as well as the amount of cars using those intersections,

these locations still qualified for the use of a flashing beacon like this.

I guess I understand that there's guidelines, but I'd be really interested to know what those

triggers are, and this is before the Disabilities Advisory Commission, and to Commissioner or Vice

Chair Ellis's comments for our citizens who are visually impaired. I mean, I would be curious to

know if any of those comments were from individuals who are visually impaired, and what that pedestrian

usage data says about these particular intersections, like I can guess about X and 22nd and 23rd

streets, but I'm very familiar with District 3, and I can't play San Juan in that crossing in relation

to other crossings. So again, like the typically one of presentations like this comes to us,

images of the locations are included, and so that would be really helpful. So again, I would just

restate my request that this comes back to us in the future for further comment.

Thank you Commissioner Crowley. Hi, thanks for being here.

So that we can ask for pictures and all the things that we need to see, it's true, but we're glad

you're on the agenda and glad you're here and very grateful to take up the project from whoever you

got it from. I appreciate what that feels like, and I think we all do. I also, my nature of comment is

this, again, it's coming from the stakeholders that approach me in different community events.

District 2, District 3, District 4 is well represented. What happens is that when we hear that the data

collected from the traffic department, traffic informatics, the length of time that passes to collect

that data is interesting information. Because in the community, if it's dependent upon 311 and

dependent upon citizen comment to elevate, and I think we have a presentation later in the agenda

today, I wanted to bring this comment up now because you're a fresh set of eyes, and it's just

good to have it repeated in our meetings. There are districts that do not have the education,

technology, economics that allow for regular requests to elevate that data.

So I'm always watching from my perspective, if District 2, 3, and 4 was designed in a certain way

with that budget in mind, if there's ever discussion or ability to bring in the other data that

might be historically related to improve. And in the previous presentations, I always bring it

up in that way. But this time, what I wanted to mention is because it's been brought to me.

Citizens give up sometimes when they see other areas constantly getting funded for requests made

because they just have more active involvement. So as a commissioner of District 5,

there's historically accidents and reduced public transportation and funding that's needed,

and that's something that I would take up with the council member in our District. But at the same

time, from the allocation of funds to a project, I just encourage that wherever possible,

if those routes can be extended to those districts that may not have the same demographic.

That if it allows for, you know, you go to different places in the city and there's a new sign,

but right next to it, it looks like a different town, but it's right next to it. And I just wonder

how much $1.2 million or whatever the budget was, just to extend the paint a little bit more,

just to have that a little bit more. So I'm just bringing that up because we don't have any

pictures, so I wanted to give an illustration of what that would look like or what I'm looking for

when I'm looking at the presentation. So thanks for hearing me out.

Thank you commissioner Crowley. Commissioner Dyson?

Talking, you say it's audible. What's audible?

So the buttons to that activate the RFBs, they have a locator tone, so it'll basically just chirp

telling you, you know, to guide you to where it is. And then once the RFB actually turns on,

then it will, it has an actual voice message saying that I can't remember exactly what the words are,

but it's, you know, that's one of them. But for the RFB, it says the lights are now flashing.

It doesn't actually tell the person that it's across because you know you have to check for cars.

It can't guarantee that there's not a car coming, so it says the lights are on and, you know,

look both ways and then cross. And the English language is saying wait.

Yeah, no, it doesn't say wait. It says the lights are now flashing.

Oh, yeah.

And the English light. Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you commissioner Patel.

Thank you commissioner Dyson.

Commissioner Barnbaum.

Yeah, thank you. To commissioner Dyson's last point, I've come across locations where it'll

either just in English say wait. Or we'll say, walk sign is on the cross J Street.

Walk sign is on the cross J Street.

To the commissioner, forget who it was that was asking.

It was commissioner Boyd that asked where San Juan and Gilamont is in relation to looking at the map.

Yes, so I found it. It is west of the I five I 80 interchange.

Gilamont is on the north side of San Juan.

It changes into Guadalajara way on the south side of San Juan.

So it's a street with the name change at San Juan.

And I could tell you to commissioner Crowley who mentioned about access to public transportation.

That is something with route alignment.

Some familiar with that is a section of San Juan road west of Azavito Drive.

And nothing on that road west of Azavito has fixed route public transportation that exists today.

The route on San Juan road turns south on Azavito Drive and continues down on the Nautomas Park

Drive to Garden Highway. It doesn't provide any service on San Juan west of Azavito. Thank you.

Thank you commissioner Barnbaum and commissioner Patel.

I wonder if it's possible to see the picture of the example from J street that exists.

And thank you for being here on this presentation.

One of the things that I noticed in this picture and I wondered if this is the intention or if it is

different for different design builds. I noticed that there in this example there is not

an obstructing curb with the button behind the obstructing curb. There are lots of crosswalks

where I live where they are kind of built behind this large curb and so it's cumbersome to get to

them if you might not be in an accessible walking mode for other parties. Is this the design that

will be there it is plush on the curb making you can get very close to that. Is that the design

for all or is that just what's here? It's kind of going to depend on the location.

We do try to get it as close to the where the ramp meets the road as possible. It needs to be

by a level landing within 10 feet. Adam I don't know if there are any other requirements to have it

behind the curb. So as Devon was saying we follow a specific guidelines actually laid out in the

manual uniform and ETCD manual uniform traffic control devices guidelines where the buttons can

be placed as Devon was saying they are generally placed on a level landing. So a flat spot where

if somebody is in a wheelchair they are not going to be on a slope that's pushing them one direction

or another. It will be within reach. Now if you notice on this one or when you say it's not behind

a curb technically it's still really close to or it's kind of behind a curb. There's in those

guidelines there's a certain reach requirement where you can't exceed I believe it's 10 inches

from that level landing area to where the button is. So you may have to reach over a little bit but

it's not going to be one of those situations where I can picture what you're talking about where it's

too feet. If you're in a wheelchair you're practically leaning on to two sets of wheels to be able

to get to the button. That is not allowable for our design guidelines anymore.

I think thank you. I think you know because most it sounds like these are existing crosswalks.

They're sort of being retrofitted for this piece to add. I would wonder about bringing

to me 10 inches seems still pretty big when we think about some of our more disabled community

that are in a wheelchair who might not have such a reach. So I wonder if the clarity and the exact

distance and some of that could be clarified in I know the commissioner avoided asked for it to

be brought back. So I just wonder if some of the exacts on that could be brought back just so we

could see that. Yeah we have some graphics from the MUTCD that shows it pretty exactly what

you're supposed to do and we always try to have the button on a level landing. It's really only

when it's like impossible if you sometimes you have a situation where if you put a pole there it

would make the impossible for the wheels to get through so we're kind of always balancing that.

Thank you. Thank you commissioner Patel. It's a normal commissioner to speak in the

speaking queue so I think thank you so very much for presentation. I hope and I admit as commissioner

a boy requested that way we can see and discuss talk and discuss this further at some later date.

Again thank you for your presentation. I do believe he's going to present on item five as well.

Oh sorry thank you. No you're fine. Go ahead.

All right. Are there any public was did were there any public speakers for that item?

Yes we recorded that during barn bombs comment. Thank you. Thank you.

Next project audible signals phase two I actually presented on phase one to the DAC two years ago so this

is sort of the bigger follow up we have a lot more intersections we only had eight in the

previous project. These locations were selected also from based on request from citizens with

disabilities through our citizen request program and sort of a mix we have so 14 locations total

at 10 of those locations we're going to be installing new APS devices accessible pedestrian signals

and at six of those devices six of those locations we're going to be reconstructing

non-compliant curb ramps and two locations well both.

So the an audible pedestrian system or signal it's kind of like what I was talking about with RFBs the

accessible information devices but they have more features

because we're at a controlled intersection so I think Commissioner Obama you were talking about

it'll tell you what street you're on that's actually what these will do they'll tell you

way to cross at this street and it'll tell you you know based on which direction you're facing

and so these have the the same thing the hand wave I detect touches actuation and the custom

voice message and braille for each crossing so yeah on the signage they'll be in braille the

name of the street that you're going to cross. So I don't have pictures of all 14 intersections but

these are a couple of corners at on the left is Natoma's Boulevard and Del Paso Road so here we're

going to be installing new APS and reconstructing a curb ramp is one of the two locations where we're

doing both and on the right as an example from North Freeway Boulevard and Gateway Park Boulevard

and we're just installing new APS there this is kind of to show we have a very wide range of

you know what we have to do though on the left Natoma's Boulevard is a lot more work you know

reconstructing that entire curb ramp and on the right all we really have to do is just install the

the new APS buttons. This is an example from six and p so you have three or two components

basically that's it you have the new APS push button gets installed on a pole like we were talking

about next to a level landing if there is no if the existing traffic signal pole at the intersection

is in a bad location we'll be installing a new pedestrian post as close as possible

and then in the traffic signal cabinet there's a control unit at each intersection.

For post schedule we're estimating to begin construction spring of next year and

and construction December of 2026 and total project cost is about 1.6 million.

All right did I go back?

I think I went to the wrong.

Yeah I went past the end of mine.

Well anyway that was the end of my presentation if you have any questions.

Thank you thank you for your presentation.

I'll turn I'll turn it to vice chair.

Vice chair Ellis.

Again thank you.

Again just want to appreciate the fact that the city is doing this and it seems to be methodical

as to you know we have finite resources and going into but as others have shared tonight you

know making sure there's a piece of equity when we're looking across the city and that you know

these upgrades are made with an eye towards the underserved parts of our city. I mean I see

them all the time I live here in downtown so they're pretty ubiquitous and you know so I have

that privilege of where I live but recognizing that. Just again to kind of say what I said before

about maintenance we love these things when they work and when they don't it's you know it's really

problematic I mean there are a number that I come across and I report them to 3-1-1 you know

and they they they kind of linger and I get it because it's budget and priorities and

and all that but it's you know how we can you know invest so that way we get also quality product

because I'm wondering like if we spent more and bought a better version or I don't know because

there are somewhere you go buy you push it and it's like the volume just went you know to 10 or

11 or whatever to the max and you know like they're there a few there next to like apartment buildings

I'm like if you live right next to that you have got to hate that thing after a while

but then there are others where you know it's so muffled you can't hear it to know what it's saying

and you know the vibration is helpful for those you know who are deaf and blind you know

so you know those need to work as well I'm I do like the the motion especially for me with

a being a guide dog user I usually triggered the thing before we even get there and then I know

others who we've mentioned on the previous item that you know may have various different issues

trying to reach for the button to push it in this way they just kind you just kind of have to make

a you know a motion near it and it goes off so I do appreciate that but like there's a few places

I've noticed like like on seventh next to golden one on the golden one center side there is one

you know where there's the motion type but literally on the other side of the street it's still

the old version so it's is this like when you know on a maintenance thing or if there's a need

to replace or you know are these pro how are you know kind of getting into how these projects are

kind of being determined by priority I guess is what I'm kind of asking

so like I was mentioning they are from our citizen request program I'm not sure how I think it's

just an order of receiving those requests I don't think there's any special priority given I'm

not sure Adam's going to be speaking on this later so I can speak a little bit to that and

actually Kelly's going to be speaking on that later this particular project all of the locations

that were developed were entirely based off of citizen requests so citizens that have a recognized

disability made this specific request for all of these audible signals and then they were all

compiled into one large project so we can get an economy of scale and building them

speaking to a couple of the other things that you mentioned as far as like the equipment can we

spend more and get better there's really only two vendors out there that produce these things that

are actually reliable producers we use one particular vendor we have test driven the other vendor

and I'm not sure if we're in the process of approving them or if they did not work well with our

system but I mean basically we have a very complex traffic or traffic signal system in the city

and not every company's product works well within it so we our first priority is to get it to

work well in the system I can guarantee you that our engineers and our maintenance staff

want it to work as much as you do because they don't want the calls yeah as far as the kind of

oddball scenario that you're describing on seven street that happens mainly because

probably 90% of the infrastructure that is put in the city gets put in with development projects

and we can only compel developers to do so much so if they're touching one side of an intersection

but not the other we can't really force them to operate equipment on all sides of the intersection

so we get what we can and then we try to catch those additional locations with follow-on projects but

the peanut butter only spread so far over the toast so that's where we usually end up is we want

to hit everything I think in a future presentation to the DAC we're going to be discussing our ADA

transition plan and that's one of the items in there if I'm not mistaken is kind of the overarching

plan on how to address all locations but right now we're very reactive in it and just trying to

do the most we can with the funds that we have I really appreciate that added information about

the vendors because that's yeah if it's what's in the market is what's in the market then

and we're buying the best we can get then I do appreciate that to your point about developers and

things like that yeah because the money flows from where it flows but in you know in this case with

the golden one center yeah you got the golden one center but it's the city on the other side because

it's there's the park is on the other side so yeah I would just you know where we can be more

consistent and I know you got to find you know you if you have developer dollars on one side of

the street and you don't on the other side you got to find that other pot of money and I get that

so I do appreciate that so thank you and with regard to the different vendors we actually did test

that second vendor at the phase one project I think a J and L. Hambra I think that's a different

kind and yeah the the problem was I think with our traffic traffic operation center it just didn't

it was it was a lot harder for them to set up with our system I think that's the the driving

decision behind that thank you so much thank you so much thank you so much commissioner Ellis

commissioner barmbal yes question and then a couple of corrections on the staff report that I saw

here in online are you eventually looking to enhance this even more so to allow

diagonal crossing at these and other intersections with the audible pedestrian signals

we've often talked about that in slow down Sacramento and I know the person who runs that is

I believe on the city's active transportation commission as well so I don't know if we are

planning to do diagonal crosswalks in the city but it's not a part of this this project or this

program so no we don't have any plans to do that as part of this this project okay I think that

that would be something that would be of an enhancement or an enhancer for everybody particularly

people with disabilities and older adults and part of while you're not seeking a motion on

this item just direction to staff is to take a look at that and bring that back to the DAC in the

active transportation commission I think both of us would both of our commissions would have a

lot of input on the matter of diagonal crossing as it may even relate to what you presented tonight

and then just a couple of corrections the one I noticed here you have listed as truck soul boulevard

and gateway park boulevard I believe it's truck soul road if I'm not mistaken and then in the staff

report it was mentioned that the phase one was heard in March I believe that that phase one was

heard in February thank you thank you commissioner bar and bomb commissioner Dyson

I guess my question is where is district eight is district eight's not included in this process

no I don't know if we have any citizen requests in district eight but what I was given the list

of project or intersections for this project day wasn't included okay so it had to be a

citizens request yeah that's how all of these are sort of entered into the citizen request program

is by citizens with disabilities will yeah we're cross to have added infrastructure at intersections

throughout the city for the next opportunity it'd be 2027 huh it does take a while to set up

thank you thank you commissioner Dyson commissioner void thank you thank you for presentation

yes to piggyback on commissioner Dyson a lot of these ADA or not ADA necessarily projects but

disability related projects are citizen driven some of them are proactive but some of them rely

on citizens to let the city know that they're having a challenge in particular this this project I

know the young woman who submitted the request for a trucks along Gateway Park in North Freeway

and Gateway Park she got a job in the Sacramento Gateway shopping center and realized on public

transportation and the pathway from public transportation that drops off at trucks all and

Gateway Park was not accessible she's visually impaired and it was a concern that she would be

traversing those highly traveled intersections without the aid of the audible signal I did reach out

to her and let her and her family and let them know that about nine months later it looks like

that is on the radar and I am curious whether and maybe our next speaker can address this whether

citizens are contacted you know after the fact and alerted that their requests are being met

I wanted to ask what is wrong with and if you can put up the photo I'm not sure if the

presentations caught up the wrong with the curb at the townness and del Paso Road so the left photo

because I remember when those curb cuts were put in and so now it sounds like there's a problem

with them what's so actually Adam is the one helping go through all these curb ramps I'm not a

curb ramp that's expert in a electrical engineer so I don't know Adam do you remember what was the

issue with this I don't remember the specific issue I'm looking at it right now and trying to

count the different things I mean just off the top of my head I look at it and I can tell you that

doesn't meet any of our current standards that does not necessarily mean it isn't ADA compliant

right now it just doesn't meet current city standards what I do see on there when I look at it

particularly the left side of the picture next to that pole that looks like a really steep ramp

down like that looks like it exceeds the one to twelve limit I would guess that that's the issue

that we identified on there oftentimes when you have dual ramps like that and that one actually

looks relatively well spaced but sometimes those ramps are so tightly spaced together because of

the geometry of the intersection that you don't have room to ramp up in between and that's what

causes a situation like this where you have that kind of weird standing curb in the middle versus

just everything elevated but I would have to look at the engineering drawings to really recall

what we saw in there that was the trigger for replacing those so was the reconstruction of the ramp

identified just when you guys were looking at the install installation of the new APS

correct okay so when we received the citizen request for APS out there we looked at it and I think

that was a lesson learned with the APS phase one install was we focused for or entirely on the APS

just wanting to get that in place and didn't realize just how out of standard all of the curb ramps

were and now we're having to go revisit that so we're trying to make sure we look at this

holistically if we're out there we want to touch it once and be done.

Thanks.

Four of the reconstructed, sorry for interrupting.

Four of the reconstructed curb ramps in this project are actually locations from phase one

that we're going back and making it right so.

Okay.

Also on this intersection so none of this phase has started yet?

Is that?

No we're just moving into design so.

Okay so none of this has started yet.

I use that intersection a lot I live in district one and I noticed this past weekend that the

existing APS started working again so I'm just because the APS even before Commissioner Ellis joined

us has been a concern for mine of mine and I know that we'll be hearing about the audit of all

of the audible signals moving forward because that's a relatively newer intersection,

a newer part of the city and it did have audible signals and none of them have worked for a very

long time but suddenly the opposite corner started started working going northbound so my next

question is going to be is there a maintenance plan associated with the installation of these

new APS signals?

Yes so right now it is more of a reactive we're waiting for you know maintenance is waiting for

those three one one calls to tell them that you know there's something wrong so now right now we

don't have a I don't I don't believe we have a program where they're going through and checking

every single one.

I got a review.

So I brought this up in the comment before CalTrans one of our partners in projects they don't put

in new equipment without a maintenance plan in place for maintaining and checking that equipment

so in my hearing that we moving even just moving forward with putting in new signals we're not

developing a maintenance plan that it's going to continue to be reactive.

For now yes.

That's a really disappointing because I mean those signals haven't been working for years.

I mean I don't know how many how long people have been commenting but it really if you if the

city invests the money to install the equipment and we've realized that we're only being reactive

and now we have an opportunity with these new signals to have a plan in place.

I mean really the plan is somebody going and pushing the buttons every

six months year I mean that that's a plan and that does to me that is the same like that's a

a lot of overhead to just check it and not rely on people with disabilities already trying to

navigate their community to take it upon themselves to say that this is something that I need.

You put it in but it's up to me to tell you that it's not working.

Please come fix it and then however long that process takes for that to happen.

So this has been a recommendation with past presentations regarding audible

signals which are now required by federal law so you're going to be doing it every time you put

in a signal that a maintenance plan be part of the installation of audible signals in the city of

Sacramento. Thank you.

Thank you Commissioner Boyd. Before we continue with Commissioner comments and reviews I want to

to hold a vote to extend the meeting. Motion to extend the meeting to the maximum allowable by

the city ordinance. We have a vote first by Vice Chair Ellis and a second but vote by Commissioner

Barnbaum. Thank you commissioners if you can all please unmute your microphones. Commissioner Patel.

Yes Commissioner Barnbaum. Yes Commissioner Greenbaum. Aye. Commissioner Wilson is absent.

Commissioner Dyson. Aye. Commissioner Tucson Boyd. Aye. Commissioner Mercer is absent. Vice Chair Ellis. Aye.

Commissioner Carr is absent. Commissioner Crowley. Aye. And Chair Cramer. Aye. Thank you the motion

passes. Commissioner Barnbaum if you'd like to continue. Yes. To the point made earlier by Commissioner

Dyson. I was looking here and you have one project in district two right on the border of the

city and county line between the city and the unincorporated area. Were there any other

requests by citizens or others in district two like maybe around Del Paso Boulevard or an old

north Sacramento the one listed here is in the Arden fair area and right at the edge of our district.

I don't have a list of the other locations that were requested. Yeah these were the ones that

we were directed to for this project. I'm not sure if there were others. Okay thank you.

Commissioner Barnbaum. Commissioner Patel. Just added a layer thought on Commissioner Boyd's

conversation around that maintenance plan. I think you know it's one thing to identify that

there's 20 of them broken in the city but the process of what we do with that also takes a long

time so within that plan some sort of allocated funding and promises to you know if the plan is

like I think she was saying every six months we go and push the button and if you identify

and the following month there's plan and facilities and staffing's planned to then go fix them right

away sort of that proactive approach because yes I know we we have some in the community that are

fairly new and I'm like wow we have a new button that doesn't work. It looks great but just that

proactive approach to the plan and that added layer of and when we we know we're going to find

ones that don't work and so we have allocated funds and staffing to then fix it right away.

Thank you Commissioner Patel. I have no I have no further Commissioner speakers and Q thank you

so very much for your presentation presentation and I hope that what we what we offered

here helps in furthering the project and I hope again that we see you on a later date to

further talk on this item. Yeah thank you for all the comments and I will see you again to

come back about the other projects so thank you. And for the record chair we have no public speakers

for this item as well okay we will then move on to our next item the Americans with disabilities

ADA citizens request program. Good evening I think this is my third or fourth time presenting in

front of some of you got some new faces here my name is Kelly Lacey I'm an assistant civil engineer

and I'll be presenting to you today the Americans with Disabilities Act ADA citizen request program.

Before I start this outline I do want to say to Commissioner Boyd's point about the intersection

about the young lady I think her mother submitted that on her behalf and this is the program that's

scooted it on over to be applied to the audible signals project. So for this presentation I'll be going

over the background and purpose of this program the methods of request how we receive them

what makes the request qualified for this particular program how we track them and then how they

are implemented and find their way to construction. So a little bit of background this program

establish following the Barton settlement and it's funded by local roadway maintenance and

construction funds. The purpose of this program is to bring the public rights of way into compliance

with all access laws and regulations and additionally it is the responsibility of this program to

review and prioritize barrier removal in the public right of way. So how do we receive these requests

majority of them come via 311 whether phone call we also have a method online on the city's website

for folks to submit or from our street maintenance crews. What makes a request qualified for this

program so a qualified request comes from a class member a class member defined as all persons

with mobility and or vision disabilities who seek full and equal access pertaining to curb cuts

and sidewalks in the city of Sacramento's public right of ways. Other criteria is the request

within the city of Sacramento and is it in the public right of way you know this this doesn't include

parking lots or anything on like personal property just what we can manage as the city.

What is typically requested the biggest one is curb ramps and if you all remember the 34th street

this is one of them in front of Sakai curb ramps driveways crosswalks or they may include audible signals

and we also receive requests for like abrupt changes in sidewalks so if there's like a lip from a tree

our street maintenance crews can go out and do that nice slope there so it makes it easier for users.

How request tracked so all requests are tracked in a spreadsheet I like to call myself the spreadsheet queen

information collected is their contact information the method ever quest it had come from 311 did it

come from maintenance sometimes we get things by way they find their way to our traffic staff and they

find their way back to this program the location and reason for the request so is it is it a curb ramp

is it a lip in the sidewalk is it an audible signal and then our responses and next steps

so for just just so clarify for this contact information this is their names their emails if they

submitted the method through in one yeah and the location and how are the requests implemented so

it depends on the complexity so a curb ramp is something our street maintenance crews who super

easy can go out and construct it or if we get a grant let's say we get an abundance of curb ramps

this is something we would move forward with if it gets large enough and it becomes a budget

thing as mentioned before then we move it up to a capital improvement project or if it's something

along the lines of the audible signals that Devon had mentioned before if there is already a project

there or project coming up where our curb ramp requests or our ADA requests can squeeze in there

then we'll add it to that project or it will be part of a larger CIP very short presentation

any questions comments or concerns thank you very much for your presentation

it's great that you have a sit that you guys have a system to help help people fill out

be able to send requests for what they need I just want to know is about the upkeep of like current

and future projects I upkeep are you saying is like the the spreadsheet nothing gets deleted the

only way it gets is if it's if it's fixed so if a request comes in it is tracked there until it is

until it can be constructed sometimes we do get requests where we aren't able to do anything like

I said if it's not in the city right away sometimes I've gotten requests from individuals who need more

assistance like in a hospital or parking spaces those sort of things we don't handle those with

this particular program I'm not sure if I answered your question properly well I think like with

Commissioner Boyd said that they had to have a signal that there's the keeps sending in like

it doesn't operate or there's a are you saying oh for maintenance so for this program we handle

the citizen request not necessarily maintenance of existing because for this program was

existing obviously if they're requesting if they're submitting a request what they have

is in working in terms of a curb ramp sidewalk but for this program we don't handle audible signals

we pass it forward or if it comes in in another project but in terms of maintenance and repeated

maintenance that is not they're not a part of this this program okay thank you for clarifying

Commissioner Boyd

so do you follow up with individuals who submit the requests oh I'm so glad you asked this question yes

so we receive requests they if they submit their phone number they get a phone call for me if I just

have their email they get an email for me I let them know hey I've received it you know at least

in the beginning and then if we sit and we discuss and I meet with the multiple entities that be

within public works then I can return a call and say hey this is something that we can do or

hey you know I received your request you know if I have it tracked you know it's not something we can

do next day all the time we're in a project coming up all the time so I try to give them a realistic

view of what's to happen and then of course to give them the good news of we've received your

curb ramp request you know our streetman is cruise are going out and they're doing what needs to do

and if I get a timeline from them or if it finds its way into a larger project I can let them know

when it's going to be handled um do you have statistics on how many requests you're handling I do

not so this is my first year handling this project so it is this my spreadsheet is point forward

from me this is just I can say in the last year we have at least in full capacity whether they

qualify or don't qualify but at least 20 25 the you think they'd come in more frequently but

sometimes it can be handled by before it even gets to this program sometimes if it goes

to street maintenance is something that they can do but yes as far as as far as this not not an

abundance but we do we do get some good calls yeah so I have a comment to say on that um

the agenda item says ADA citizen request program but if you search the city of Sacramento's website

information about this program is on our citywide accessibility page and it is under public

rights of way which I'm going to say the lay person that doesn't necessarily mean something to them

so one of the things that we talk about on this dius a lot is accessibility and language is

something that should be considered when we're talking about accessibility that is not accessible

language to the everyday person they may not know that um if they're searching the web or the city's

website that uh a signal or a curb ramp is a right of way issue the second thing that I would say

about this information on the city's website is that it points to a grievance procedure so the

language for your agenda item is a citizen request request program which sounds very positive and

um you know collaborative so a citizen um states a need that needs to be addressed and then you

coordinate that and in seeking a solution on the website it is grievance based it sounds like

I have a complaint not a need that needs to be addressed and so again back to language

perhaps I and I know a lot of the stuff was just migrated over from the original website and I

really encourage city staff to look at this information um we've talked about it it hasn't been

changed but there's a message about that whether it's a it's a complaint so like I'm a citizen so

if I need something as an individual with disabilities I have to complain to get it I mean it even

talks about the steps and it it just seems really kind of prohibitive I mean it goes up to you

know step four appeal to the city manager it doesn't sound like that's necessarily the process

that's in place today and so I would encourage um you do you know potentially reach out to whoever

is responsible for this page on the city's website and consider um a different way of presenting

this information and how it's useful um and also just keep in mind that filling out an online form

is also not always accessible to our brothers and sisters with disabilities um that being said

I know that we've asked not we just myself but definitely commissioner Crowley has asked many times

about data and so I think as a commission data that drives the programs that we get to provide

feedback on would be helpful I know she specifically has requested data on how many um calls around

ADA issues go through 3-1-1 and to date we haven't been able to get any of that I don't think um so

I you know in the future I think that would be helpful to just as a commission to see how how is

how is the public accessing the city and the services and support that it can provide and if

we're not seeing very many requests because I know that there are commissioners on this day is who

observe the needs throughout the city um perhaps the public don't really know that this is

available to them um you know so how are we informing and educating the public aside from having

a little spot on our city website that this is how you would submit it does does our city express

highlight this is it shared on social media are city council people when they're having town halls

bringing this up with their constituents um is there any outreach when you're doing you know

safe streets presentations oh by the way this is a of opportunity to submit

um things that you think need to be addressed and obviously investigation is part of it so maybe

not everything rises to the level of a project but um you know 20 seems like very small for a city

of over half a million people um and we know how a lot of our infrastructure infrastructure is

outdated so thank you thank you commissioner boyd commissioner Crowley

hi there I agree with everything that was said it's a good presentation it's timely one and

the efforts made by the city are moving in the direction that everybody wants that the stakeholder

wants and we're leading the country in these sort of innovative ways by the way so we we are

on the right track and so one of my backgrounds is that I have a national uh credential as an ADA

coordinator so with with that credential come come on that I that I studied and it became as

because of my role here it's these presentations like this that matter so what I think happened

sometimes is that since things are financially limiting it helps to see where the volume of input

is so that when we when we are assigned as in this volunteer role to go into the community it helps us

communicate better to our neighborhood so that the data can start to show the trend of that

it's working our our service to our own city supporting the staff as civil servants will start to

record that data that will start to align in the next 20 years with the projects that take 20 years

right and so we may not be around to see the impact but capturing if it's less than two

percent of the population we know that we know that we represent less than two percent of the two

percent that are captured in the data but relatively speaking then how much of that two percent

is making an impact for the universal design or the generic um uh discussions that need to manifest

a balanced budget for a project to help the greater good so I just wanted to piggyback that bigger

picture thinking because it's a long night and every little project is a passion project when

it comes in front of us because if we don't say it we know that it didn't get discussed in those

pressure meeting it pressurized chambers of meetings within the council that then have to be you know

adjudicated in a certain format because it's government so I just wanted to share my passion

of the data that we know is there but it helps us to to look beyond the click on that link and you'll

hear the recording well we know that things are not accessible but we are all of us are and I think

the council has done and the city has done and the staff has done an excellent job of making this

trend towards a more inclusive dialogue so we're just excited I'm excited and we the collective we

are excited to be here and at this late hour I need to give encouragement like thanks for sticking

it sticking in with us for all of it thank you thank you I I do echo that it is just to to

bra I know the city anytime we have a project I know Adam said earlier kind of like we touch it we

fix it it's sort of thing um I presented to you all the Franklin Boulevard Get Pleasure project

and I don't know if you guys remember how many curb ramps are on that one um but we do make it

a point so I know this program isn't the only one that touches curb ramps CIP projects do

coordination we do what other entities so I do echo that is yeah we're we're not perfect but we

are we are doing our best I just want to say that and see students thank you so very much for

for your presentation and taking time time to hear the commissioners of course of course

is that all questions I believe so I see no more commissioners in the speaker queue thank you

okay have a good day okay and before before you move on are there members of the public

who wish to speak thank you chair we have new speakers for this item thank thank you um our final

our final item on the agenda tonight is the Tim Haley Awards

um and was presented by a car on commissioner boy

it's not what the agenda says thank you chair

so for our newer commissioners the Tim Haley Awards are an opportunity for

the disabilities advisory commission to recognize those individuals who live within the city

limits who go above and beyond serving the those in the community who have disabilities

so work with the community with people who have disabilities might be someone's job or it might not

but what we're looking at when we make these nominations is um recognizing whether or not

it's an individual's job that they just continue to serve serve with their heart serve with

their soul give back to our community in ways that promote the ideals of this commission which

echo diversity equity and inclusion in a way that often gets lost in the discussion

um we don't always I think we rarely hear uh disability as part of uh DEI conversations and so if we

have an opportunity to acknowledge and rise up those who make our community more inclusive and

accessible um to again our brothers and sisters with disabilities whether they're physical

intellectual or developmental um seeing and unseen we are taking this opportunity to do that

the awards are named after former commissioner Tim Haley who passed away early

in 2020 and um are the thought child of former chair will candidate um this will be I believe our

fourth fourth um annual um

Tim Haley awards and basically I know it says nominations but we have

awarded everybody who's been nominated so this is not necessarily a nominate discuss decide

it's a nominate why you're nominating and then we vote to approve those nominations and then

those folks will be recognized I believe um they'll be invited to our meeting in May and

recognized um in a ceremony here at City Hall so I'll turn this back over to the chair if you

want to open the floor to nominations thank you commissioner Kaley I will now open open open

open the floor to nominations if everybody can can I mute their their mics or

queue up

okay uh vice chair Ellis thank you I'm nominating uh Teresa O'Brien she is a

counselor at Cosmos River College lives in the city limits and also works in the city limits

she works in disability support programs and services at CRC I've had the pleasure privilege

uh in my previous jobs work with her but know her for over a decade and yeah she works with

students with disabilities but she does a lot more than that uh it's not just a regular you know

nine to five job for her it's you know it's a labor of love I would I don't think she would think

of it really as a job and in so many cases um students come to community college for various reasons

and her approach

um

is really student centered regardless of the other pressures they may be under

and sometimes she recognizes that maybe coming to college isn't the net the best path for them

and she's able to connect them to uh the resources that we've all mentioned this evening

have one way or another um to help that person you know live the way they want to live and do

what they want to do and contribute to our society and sometimes you know we would all love them to

come to you know to do higher education even though I don't work in higher ed anymore but

I think she really embodies a lot of what the uh the ideals of this award and um what this

commission is about so when I it was the first name that came to mind for me and why I I nominate her

Commissioner Crowley thank you uh for this opportunity to present my nominations

I wanted to premise this with I knew Tim and he was instrumental in demonstrating to me personally

why it was important to be able to hold these meetings and chambers

why it is important to continue to speak on things that are not commonplace

for a person who has visible disabilities and to champion leadership roles for those who are

passionate but also doing the work of bringing inclusion uh bringing opportunities for inclusion

of many different areas of life that make the city of Sacramento a wonderful place to live

so with that in mind I'm going to be per the per the way that the staff will best recognize the

uh nominations because there's a process to provide a written uh something written more formal

I wanted to just highlight the names uh for the record and how it displays the vibrant nature of those

who may have disabilities uh that they would uh be active citizens uh regardless of what limitations or

accommodations they may need but also that they are in their own right representative of the community

and you wouldn't know how they through their efforts work actions commitment businesses

um how they involve themselves in in our lives and by doing so make it an honor to represent them

at whatever district they live in and that makes them deserving of this award

Barbara Altis is a veteran and a wine connoisseur Bridget Barsodi is an artist and an educator and a

caregiver Randy Call is a retired nurse and still mentors people within the community and it

and particularly those who are not only with his place of worship but also with UC Davis uh

very long respected healthcare worker within an institution that's a flag

ship to our city Merrival Camusura is a well-known and involved child care provider

and has very rare uh very rare licensure to house a large number of children from zero to school aged

Randy Call Missura is a healthcare educator and uh one of those unsung heroes during the

Pan Zabak as a respiratory therapist John Crowley he's a farmer and works in the city public schools

as a high school uh math teacher uh and also uh takes those kids from the city to provide and coaches

in other athletic events so that they are represented well despite not having the resources or the

number of students to compete he ensures that with along with his partner in in the school Patricia

Debrowski is a advocate and an educator Monica Serrano is a voice performer Barbara Sterling

education she's an educator and founder of an academy in Midtown that uh specializes in a out of

box way of presenting curriculum uh and she specializes she has a special education

certification that manages challenges that students may have with behavior and emotions as well

so she's a very a unicorn in that way to be so bold uh and be so visible in the community uh

Peter Sterling is a Spanish language interpreter and oftentimes we don't see it here as much as

we should but when there is language barriers of any kind i feel that um his contribution

within the SAC Romano City school district as an itinerant type person is very rare and um allows

for that sort of diversity of representation and lastly uh Monique Jenkins she's a wellness provider

and again during the pandemic uh allowed not only able and differently abled bodies to stay healthy

but she was brave in uh becoming mobile in her work when all the facilities closed so those are

my nominations that i respectively submit to the deck thank you Commissioner Crowley at Commissioner Boyd

thank you this is always session exciting time um the first year that we gave these awards i nominated

i think three people from the community and subsequent years i have looked to um the disability

network that is even smaller than Sacramento as a small town um four nominations and put forth

nominations from this community so this evening i am bringing forth a nomination from Vanessa Beaker

she is the founder of Flybrae Foundation um she was my nominee the first year we gave this award

and um flybrae if you're not familiar with it um is a foundation that supports individuals on

the autism spectrum they operate a the flybrae v imporium which is a thrift store provides hands on

work experience for young adults and actually adults with um their diagnosed with autism

and other programs and um Vanessa nominated Sacramento County Sheriff Deputy Kathy Buckerich

who has been providing events activities and workshops for the flybrae community for four years

she has called Sheriff Kathy and is um she linked up with Vanessa four years ago through a common goal

to bridge the gap between law enforcement and individuals with disabilities

she's been instrumental in helping us move our law enforcement programs forward and gives 110

percent in doing so Kathy has helped flybrae create a basketball program that buddies up sheriffs

with individuals with developmental and physical disabilities to learn about each other and building

community bonds flybrae is in its third year of this fun cap which begins later this month month

on march 12th sheriff Kathy is also an autism mom both of her sons are on the autism spectrum

she has a huge heart and understands the journey well through the Sacramento Sheriff Activities League

Kathy has done the following for individuals and families with disabilities she has hosted a

swim party in barbecue she has created an in classroom training program for flybrae to teach new

academy grads about autism before they begin their career in the field Kathy helped

Vanessa create a basketball program Vanessa teaches art at the flybrae store

Vanessa is available for any parent in need of support or services Vanessa also allowed fly

also allowed flybrae graphic artists to create this year's bears with the Sacramento

Activities League logo for adoption day in Sacramento County Kathy is on the front lines

protecting our community and at the same time teaching her co-workers volunteering and creating

outreach opportunities to spread awareness and inclusion for those who are often times misunderstood

are overlooked in the words of Vanessa sheriff Kathy is a bright light in our world

sheriff Kathy also participates in the cops and coffee events that I coordinate every year with

flybrae along with sacpity officers so that is my nomination thank you very much commissioner boy

commissioner Dyson yes so my nomination is for Valellean bird and she is the founder and currently

the project director of art artism valine has always provided a safe space for those around

her she provided resources food and shelter as a case worker in Brooklyn for 10 years she's

actually an MFT but she moved her family to Sacramento California where she became a mom and it

was here that her son Mateo was diagnosed with autism and she began a new journey the this

diagnosis and first hand experience navigating the special needs community and its resources

challenged her and she became determined to make the community a better place for her family

and those like hers she started a business and that is artism that provides safe spaces for

special needs families to learn create and engage with the community and their peers she began

advocating for families attending IEPs and she provides families with vital local resources one

and 36 children are on the autism autism spectrum and valine believes it's essential for the disabled

community to be accommodated and included she not only serves she not only serves on four

board of directors for nonprofit organizations but is working extremely hard to spread awareness

and advocate for opportunities for inclusion one of the things that I wanted to bring that's

happening next month every year they have an interactive art exhibit celebrating children on

the autism spectrum the fourth annual artism is set for Saturday April 26th at Luther Burbank High

School in South Sacramento during the event they showcase the artistic talents of young awesome

artists who are on the autism spectrum while families create wonderful works of art and the art

stations and gather community resources the intention is to celebrate our our autism community

by bringing those with little to no understanding of this diagnosis into their world the

Venice free and all is welcome all abilities let's miss bailing bird thank you so very much

commissioner Dyson um commissioner barn mom okay um I wasn't sure how I was going to start this

so thank you for the introduction of this agenda item a commissioner boy so I have a little bit

better idea of what I want to say now um so first I'd like to go on record to nominate all of

our counterparts over at the Sacramento County disabilities advisory commission and what the work

they are putting in uh to provide a better lifestyle and environment for people with disabilities

and older adults throughout the city and county of Sacramento two people on there that I would

like to specifically recognize throughout that commission are Eugene Lozzano um and Kathy

Sachen SAC HEN there is a subcommittee working on the um accessibility and construction of a project

called smf smile more frequently forward so smf forward is the uh upgrades and construction

modifications may have seen if you have a Facebook and a Facebook timeline and you follow

Sacramento International Airport on Facebook one of the biggest construction things they're

doing now is a pedestrian walkway uh and so Eugene and Kathy uh spearhead the airport modernization

accessibility plan and I would like to nominate and recognize these two individuals uh not only

for the work they do on the Sacramento County DAC but specifically spearheading the subcommittee

for a more accessible smf for people with disabilities and older adults uh the third person I want to

recognize specifically um is my best friend my mentor and uh motivator to apply for

uh commissions at the city of Sacramento after the um election fallout and that is a doctor

floshawn uh griffin cofer uh floshawn griffin cofer I know lives in district six of the city of

Sacramento um I know that because I've been to the flow asus myself um she by profession is a public

health professional and epidemiologist uh she had worked at public health advocates and for the

state of california uh prior to her uh campaign to run for mayor of Sacramento which she came really

close just 1938 vote difference uh to our current mayor and she really provided in her profession

along with what she did on the campaign trail a lot of things of diversity equity and inclusion

for people with disabilities and older adults uh in everything she went on the microphone to

publicly speak about uh and advocate uh for a uh Sacramento where more is possible uh for everybody um

so uh yes again everyone on the DAC at our counterparts at the county of Sacramento specifically

catheisation and legine lasano along with doctor floshawn griffin cofer are my nominees thank you

thank you commissioner barn bomb commissioner patel

can you hear me okay like someone did it for me thank you um I would not be here today without

the person that I'm nominating um and so I would like to nominate Danielle Christi uh I met

Danielle Christi 11 years ago when I joined uh west like charter school and uh joining that

school the next year partnered with her and um our journey in uh adopting our own selpa she partnered

with the school and uh other constituents to uh adopt their own full inclusion program um so

that they could so that we could develop um a full access full inclusion program with a particular

mindset uh she partnered with the school for um in those early adoption phases and uh had a

strong desire to do so she has a had a baby at home at the time um who uh was found to have fragile

ex syndrome and she heard he will never he can't he won't um and she started this journey of those

words don't belong in our mouths um and I've learned a ton from her I uh am privileged to be her friend

for years she left her school when her child was uh in my kindergarten classroom uh and started her own

her own journey um as a business owner um started inclusively minded um feeling like

I've done what I needed to for west like and now I want to do that for a broader community

I want to advocate for community I want to um spread this mindset that we have implanted at that

school that still holds true today um she partners with the mine institute um she just recently

did a full inclusion presentation or a few maybe uh the um national association for

school psychologist and so she continues to present statewide nationally um speaking and

and teaching and supporting families students schools for inclusion access um for all and for

that equity through that lens of equity um and through the lens of UDL in the classroom and in the schools

thank you to my chef tell um commissioner green bomb thank you um I would like to nominate

judge andy mejric of the Sacramento County Superior Court uh from in a on on um on um her title

exactly first is she is as the co-chair of the Sacramento County Superior Court's education committee

of the community engagement and fairness committee which focuses on diversity equity and inclusion

for judicial officers staff and deputies um she is the chair of the Sacramento County Superior

Superior Court's mentorship program which is part of a statewide effort begun by um secretary

louise cospedis um to increase the number of diverse judicial um candidates and um the accessibility

to to judge it um she's a personal mentor and she often takes talks about her um

intersecting identities as being Jewish disabled and transgender um she i believe is

the first transgender um judge on put on a bench the bench in Sacramento i could be um as there

more since her since her appointments her appointment though um she uh helped form and um led the

formation of the disability inclusivity bar association of Sacramento um of which i'm honored to be

president of now um this we're we're in about a second or a third year formation and she is and

then also moved on to help form the placer county um or i'm sorry yolo county equivalent um

this and it's her work as a judge who is um who continues to identify as disabled and um

accessibility in our in the legal profession um in this regard is historically lacking

and it's important um that um you know and she she has been a trailblazer in uh

uh in champion um those with disabilities to go into the profession of law whether it's um with

our work at mid-George or UC Davis law other schools and her work as a mentor there but um that

experience on the bench is an all aspects of being on the bench whether it's at the commissioner level

or administrative law judge um in order to serve um their communities and um and i've seen it with

my own eyes um whether it be in her court or in my own practice um how the feeling like the

profession is accessible or feeling like we can be included in the profession um allows me to

serve a different um um community and not being the disabled community um one that i probably

would have not had on the means to uh prior to suffering my own disability in meeting um judge

midrick and um so thank you that's that's my no mention thank you commissioner gnievellman thank

you everybody for for sharing your your nominees i would look forward to meeting meeting them

meeting them when we give out the awards um if it is not too late i also have an nominee a childhood

a neighbor slash friend named laureates it's been meant many many years but Laurie she

uh before she retired she worked with with students with disabilities as well as raising

to two two sons with disabilities she has helped families including my own um like uh to give

the background i am one of the on the only ones my family so far was that besides my mother who

had this ability so she would help help my family by by including including including us in

events where we're like i know where people of different backgrounds can get together and like

play sports such as tea tea ball and soccer and i just wanted to recognize her and thank her for all

the she's done here i make a motion to approve all the nominees for the tim heli awards put forth by

members of the dius second we have a first and second by my the commissioner

twoson void and vice chair elis um thank you chair and for the record we have no speakers for

this item uh commissioners if you can please unmute commissioner patel yes commissioner barnbomb

yes commissioner green bomb commissioner wilson is absent commissioner dyson

commissioner twoson void i commissioner mercer is absent uh vice chair elis i commissioner car

is also absent commissioner crawly i and chair cramer i thank you the motion passes okay thank you

very much for for everybody's nominees and thank you to our audience both on online and in person

for for attending we we really appreciate it appreciate you being here and for your patience and

into the to those who looked comments um not um really now we can't a meeting we can't turn the

meeting thank you so much uh not not quite yet chair we we actually have um commission staff i

know jesse is currently absent migen do you have a report out today do i need to unmute yeah

okay um as substitute staff i do not have a report out today but i will take just a moment to say that

i appreciate the opportunity to be here with you tonight and to hear your feedback on the staff

reports and the things that you value knowing about and then also hearing the great stories of the

tim hailey nominees so thanks for having me

before we adjourn i would like we have commissioner comments um commissioner barnbomb

yes um so many of you know uh i i know um

i personally have known for many years uh mr. jeffery tardigua who has been at this commission and

many of area boards commissions councils whatever um i would like to on his behalf make a couple of

recommendations for the chair and the clerk to consider um make public comment on matters not

on the agenda at the beginning of the meeting uh maybe started off with it uh for up to 12 minutes and then

continue with public addresses matters not on the agenda then at the end of the meeting i know some other

um governing bodies in the region uh handle it that way and i've kind of looked at what everyone does

from observation and research and i think that's a good idea uh and then my other request is

as you saw from the public speaker from a a rp they were very articulate and in what they were

speaking but i felt maybe they were um shortened uh right at uh the the the time limit

and i've noticed in some cases there are uh governing bodies that allow the same time limit but

allow you to make an introduction of who you are who you're with before your comments so the

first thing you say is not counted against you while others uh just go with three minutes

so most of what i've observed is more of a three minute time limit than the introduction and then

two minutes so i would like to make the request because of perhaps speakers having anxiety they're

nervous they may not have done this before uh i would like to kind of look at being a role model for

the rest of our city our commissions and our council and uh introduce a three minute time limit

for public speakers an increase of one minute from the current two minute time limit thank you

thank you commissioner maran bomb maran bomb a commissioner to zambui

wow what a great meeting and for your newbies we really just used up every minute almost of our three

hours so um i wanted to start by welcoming our newest commissioners commissioner Patel and commissioner

maran bomb thank you for uh joining us um and starting this new tradition of council appointed

commissioners previously we were appointed at large and so this into the table you see

the at large members and as we turn out there will be some overlap obviously in districts where we

live but as we turn out that will change but it's so exciting to see an abundance on the

dius for a commission that historically has had trouble staying filled because whether you're an

individual with disability sitting on the commission or somebody who cares for somebody with

disabilities um you know life can be challenging and um these volunteer opportunities um often are

the lowest priority when we have those calls um so welcome um i wanted to share um a community win

and um a room for improvement and so i'll start with the win um for those of you who've been on the

commission with me or watched our past meetings uh you know that i've been a staunch advocate for

accessibility and improve accessibility at the golden one arena and um i had the opportunity to

attend an event at golden one last night heart and um and i wanted to share with you um something

that i did share from the the community had written in their experience which was positive but i

did upon arriving um notice right away a staff member a golden one staff member uh with a wheelchair

near the entry and um izea confirmed that he is one of the golden one staff whose um specific charge

at these events is to be on alert and aware of individuals arriving to the arena who might need

some extra assistance and to offer that assistance um in the form of a wheelchair taking them to

their designated seat and then we'll return at the end of the event um and help them navigate

out back out of the arena so that is a win um seeing it from from myself first hand he did

jail can say do you need a ride and i declined um but um then the the the needs improvement room for

improvement um i watched the live stream of the state of downtown hosted by the downtown

Sacramento partnership um i believe it was last week and the partnership was giving an award

and recognizing a member of the community um who then was expected to go up to on the stage

and it was clear that that individual had difficulty navigating the stairs required to access the

stage and i was totally bummed out because you're recognizing somebody but you created a barrier

for them to shine in that moment um so accessing the stage and then departing the stage um

i would argue that individual deserved more dignity in um having that experience and that that

as an observer advocating for inclusion i felt that that took away from the moment um and perhaps

they didn't feel that way but as an observer i made that note um finally it has been um my honor to

make a slide show that goes along with our Tim Haley award um ceremony which will be in May

so i'm pretty sure that your um words to accompany these awards will need to be forwarded to

Jesse but if when you're doing that if you could also send a photograph of the individual that you

have chosen to recognize then he will get that he or um his compadres will get that to me and i

will include that in the slide show and that's all thank you thank you commissioner void um

committee vice chair Alice uh thank you i just want to again welcome our new additions to the

dius it's a little crowded but i think that's a good thing um and and i just want to circle back to

commissioner barbama's comments um we have taken public comment at the beginning of the agenda

in the pet in it's just typically we don't have a whole lot of public comment which is a shame um

to the two minutes either the clerk or the city attorney if you can refresh me i believe that's

in city ordinance we are not able to change that correct

um

i'm it's either um in the city code or it's in the um rules of procedure i believe

that's not within the discretion of the chair of the vice chair of the commission

i would defer to the clerk on that but i don't believe so it is it is in like uh city attorney

is right um as far as it is the chair's discretion as to how many minutes okay would like and then

the order that she would like to take the agenda as well so okay it's chair's discretion

okay i just wanted a clarity on that okay so i think um just speaking for myself i think uh

commissioner barbama we've heard so i think um sporth uh us discussing and and and i think you're

i would say i think you're right but i think um you know more it's not like we're pressed for time

so allotting folks a little more time i think is appropriate if permissible under the city ordinance

other than that i don't have anything else to share but again welcome to the diocese thank you

hey 23 via mostly clear thank you vice vice chair vice chair lsm again i apologize i apologize for not

doing commissioner comp i mean doing public comments first first and i'm i do plan on make

making sure that that public that public comments have more more time to to speak

yeah uh commissioner commissioner krowley i just wanted to introduce myself uh it's new faces i um

i'm glad to be here part of the crew that is circling out and as the past chair i wanted to just say

that there is an art to running the meeting and so i defer to the chair who whenever that is

in their scope to decide based on the room the topic and how they uh address things with staff

um certain things that i think as as a group as long as we uphold our unity public facing and have

our comments um in consideration of the audience then i think it helps the chair and vice chair

to navigate the comments uh because we uh can easily uh take up this the time in our passion but we

also can email the staff so when they do the presentation and you'll notice like today just a

just a point of like what i've learned over the years is make a comment that is on public record

but then to take a deep dive with whoever's presenting if there's a passion helps the chair and vice

chair set the tone for all of us with all of us still being included that's what i've noticed because

and then it helps the staff prep the agenda and the uh the callback you know there's several callbacks

so it's um a utility a function of utility to recognize the chair and vice chairs notes because if

we don't meet we are not able to discuss so there's the commissioner comments to discuss there's the

email after presentation to acknowledge the direct directed feedback that doesn't have to go

through staff because they just presented to us um i think that depending on the staff

there might be the chair and vice chair would then gather comments to then reflect you know there's

all those nuances that you'll all learn as you come on and i wanted to encourage that full

participation and and i'm so glad to see how everyone prepared i just can't tell you enough that

when there's a few of us we do our best but when there's many of us and we echo each other's

sentiment there's more there's more um acceptance of those comments because it's coming from a diverse

group representing all the districts so again thanks for meeting me here and accepting my tardiness

and being willing to listen to me go on and i'm glad to know you

thank you commissioner caley um do we have any public comments yes chair we do um our

only speaker is kareena

um

now wait is this one yet um this was a topic that involved like the crosswalk but i have a concern

because i have like a Spanish speaking friend named delusiana at my school and i'm like

what if we go on a walk near the school and it's like wait and then she's like what and then i'm like

i don't know how to translate that into Spanish so i'm like why don't we have the um

um unimated voice be like wait ee something

by the way ee is Spanish is Spanish for and so i'm like uh it's a y not an e so just to clarify

anyway um i have one more thing to say about like what my mom was talking about thank you for

mentioning that by the way because i don't know if our current president and don't on trump

actually like mention this in whatever he does but um he did not um say what my mom said i don't

remember what she said but probably something about like i think um about like the crosswalk

so i hope we get it done and i'm very excited to have that done because this is my

Spanish speaking friend will actually be happy for it and i will be happy too so that's a life to

say for now thank you for your comments chair we have no more speakers thank you uh first

i want to comment and thank thank you for coming up here it's so great to see the see our young

younger citizens coming up and speaking especially about concerns within their city city and i hope

and i know that yes there's only one universal language that we have when it comes to cross

crossings and i know that in certain certain part that in there's community throughout Sacramento who

who are who are English English second speakers and i think it's important that we consider them

consider them and how and how they can safely get get through Sacramento and commissioner greenbomb

first i want to thank you so much for for speaking um it's great to hear from all of our

citizens especially our young citizens um and we can hear about issues you need to to our youth

population um i really i very much appreciate it uh quickly it i might and when my district uh

district six there is a cup there are two there are that i just know of and so i know that's not

consistent throughout the city of cross lights that's a coming hour or a or wait um or wait

sort of um right after it says the English however um they are few and very far between that's

the only one i know of in the city and i just happen to live um in the district and um that's

something that i um i share that concern and i'm probably going to do some personal research about

what makes those what what why they which ones get selected and why and um how that week so thank

you very much thank you commissioner greenbomb and unfortunately we we'll have to stop there i want to

think thank everybody again for coming out tonight and and to the commission commissioners for

for their advice and and reviews on on our on the items on our agenda agenda and again i want to

think thank our new commissioner commissioners and welcome them to to the dac cc board it's great to

have in again i look forward we look forward to to having you on here um with with that uh the meeting

the dac meeting is adjourned

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