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All right. Good morning. I now call this meeting of the Sacramento Law and Legislation Committee

to order. Will the clerk please call the roll to establish a quorum?

Thank you. Councillor Member Maple? Here.

Councillor Member Gare? Here.

Councillor Member Jennings? I'm here. Chairbell, as well.

I'm here. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Mr. Vice Chair, would you mind leading us in the pledge

in recognition? Thank you.

Please rise for the opening acknowledgements in honor of Sacramento's indigenous people and

tribal lands, to the original people of this land, Danesean people, the southern Maidu,

the Valley and Planes Miwaq, and the Paton Witten, and the people of the Wilton Rancheria

Sacramento's only federally recognized tribes.

May we acknowledge and honor the native land

who came before us and still walked beside us today

on these ancestral lands.

By choosing to gather together today

in the active practice of acknowledgement

and appreciation of Sacramento's indigenous peoples history,

their contributions and their lives.

Thank you.

Please join me for the pleasure of allegiance.

The pleasure of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

And to the Republic for which it stands,

one of the shame under God,

indivisible, and liberty and justice for all.

Thank you very much, Vice Chair Jennings.

All right, colleagues, we are starting our meeting

with four items on consent.

I am asking that we, I just blanked on the right word,

postpone item four until our next long legislation

committee meeting.

But do any colleagues have comments or questions on items one through three?

All looked in second.

All right, Manifact, we have any public commenters on these items.

We have no public speakers.

All right, so the motion is for item one, two, three,

with four being continued.

All in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Any abstained?

Opposed?

That passes unanimously.

Thank you.

We are moving right along to item five

and my teams are still loading.

But will the staff presenters please come up for item five?

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Yeah, I'll do a quick introduction.

We have our state lobbyists here today,

Ross Buckley and McKinley, Thompson Morley,

to give us a brief update on how things went in the legislature

this year.

They're prognostication for next year.

And then we will be happy to answer any questions

or provide any input.

So Ross and McKinley, if you want to come on up.

Welcome.

Thank you.

Thank you for allowing us to be here this morning.

As Kosoah mentioned that we're going to provide an update

on the 2024 legislative session with officially

come to a close and the governor's complete

his final legislative actions.

And we even got a special session this year, which allowed

us to extend that and the legislature

to meet in the last couple of weeks here as well.

But I think to start, like the kind of the most

kind of the legislature was the end of session.

Session wrapped up this year, the early morning hours

of September 1st.

I saw a number of you there now have

gained the chaos it was the end of session this year.

Given that it's an even number year

and selection year, we end the last day of August.

But sometimes you get midnight.

It trickles into those early morning hours.

So that's kind of what happened.

But given the unique schedule that last day was on Saturday,

which was a unique kind of perspective for the legislature,

what has really driven in the last couple of years

is that 7-2-R and print rule before the end of session.

So really, we were looking at what

built our amended 7-2 hours in between that midnight deadline.

And 7-2 hours before that, which we saw a number of surprises

this year, and we'll go into those in a second.

And some of those surprises that we saw

have put in print at the end of session.

But that's really what drives some of the chaos.

I think it's further ahead some of the chaos

that we saw at the end of session.

With about 50 minutes to go, the assembly

got 45 bills back from the Senate, which typically this would

mean that bills wouldn't have enough time to be heard.

But they were able to limit the debate,

and they were able to get through all 45 bills.

But it was, they had to go quite quickly to meet that deadline.

As we kind of wrapped up the end of session,

all the attention has turned to the government,

and his ability to sign or veto bills,

which he had until September 30th to finish that process.

12, or 1,206 bills were sent to him this year,

which is actually the most he's seen during his tenure.

He ultimately signed 1,017 of those,

and vetoed 189 of those bills.

So that left him about a veto rate of 15.7%.

Over the last 10 years, that veto rate has been about 15%.

So it was a slightly higher this year.

And we'll go into some of those reasons,

but it allows him to do with budgetary constraints

that we've facing this year.

And why some of them were lower.

Some of those I did kind of on how to for all of you this morning,

assembly bill 2988 by assembly member Kevin McCarty,

that bill authorizes judicial counsel to sell

the main Sacramento County courthouse

once it becomes obsolete and then once complete.

AB 3068 by assembly member Hayes,

this was related to create a streamlined process

for adaptive reuse projects.

The government ultimately vetoed this bill

because there were some concerns around funding,

but in his veto message,

he did state his desire to work on adaptive reuse projects,

particularly as we all know here in the CFSAC,

we're all around state buildings as well as other empty buildings.

They're not in use.

And then assembly bill 98 by assembly member Krio

was one of those late guttenant men's,

which had to deal with warehouse and logistic use centers,

which limited the vocal governance abilities

to make decisions for themselves,

but also was a small, it was a negotiate process,

but may stacles were left out

including local governments in that process.

So they've decided on record that they're going to come back

and do a lot cleanup on that bill next year,

so I know that we'll be engaged in that process

as that bill moves forward.

And it will be, I'm sure, a long year

as we have continued conversations by bill.

And then on the budget front,

kind of shifting over to the budget front,

as I mentioned, this was a very unique budget year too.

Depending on estimates earlier this year,

we were facing between a $37 billion

and $53 billion shortfall.

That meant that the legislature and the governor

had to act quite quickly,

and we did early budget action items

to cut delay deferred, fund shift, about $17 billion,

pretty early on the legislative session.

Just, I think that was March.

If I'm not mistaken, when we did that,

we also did an unprecedented state spending freeze

over $1 million, we froze all expenditures

until we could figure out the budget process,

which led to a lot of concerns about

what was gonna be funded and not funded in the serious budget.

A lot of it came to, let's protect the funding

that we've already in the progress we've made.

I know that for the city,

impacted a couple of programs in particular.

One was the next half-program, the next half allocation,

which ultimately a billion dollars was allocated

for a season counties to deal with housing homes,

those issues.

And then the other one that was a protective funding

was the regional early action program,

the RE-2.0 funding, which we work with Saecock

and others in our region to help protect

and that money was restored when it was proposed

to be cut in this year's budget.

So those were all very good wins.

And then just a couple of weeks ago,

on October 4th, the government announced $131 million

for encampment resolutions,

which the city was awarded just over $18 million,

so that was more good news on that front.

I'm gonna turn it over to the Kinley

who's gonna talk about a little,

next couple of months.

Yes, of course.

So would you like me to start with the election

or should I start with what we can expect next year?

Sorry, I'll start with the election then.

So basically, obviously we all know,

November 5th is about to be a pretty big day.

I'm mostly going to focus on the statewide elections

and of course the elections that will impact

the city of Sacramento.

So at the statewide level,

we have the US Senate race between Adam Schiff

and Steve Garvey,

and there are several other US House elections

across the state.

This year, all state assembly members are up for election,

and there are eight Denver's,

Denver's, Denver's, and four Republican versus

Republican races as well as six uncontested races.

We expect to have about 20 new assembly members

and the democratic super majority in the assembly

is not expected to change.

Audenambered Senate districts are also up

for election this year,

and there's actually a potential to reach gender parity

for the first time ever,

which would be very exciting in the Senate.

There are three Democrat versus Democrat races

in one Republican versus Republican race,

and the super majority in that house

is also expected to remain across 2025.

So for the city of Sacramento,

we have assembly races between Maggie Crel

and Nguiela,

since Assembly Member McCarty will not be running again.

And then we also have incumbent Stephanie Nguyen

versus Vennias Singh,

not race.

Those are two races that are up right now,

and as of right now,

it does look as though Assembly Member Nguyen

is pulling a little bit higher,

and as is Maggie Crel in her race.

So we will of course watch on November 5th

to see what happens,

as that will be impactful to the city.

I also wanted to quickly touch on the statewide ballot measures.

I'm happy to do a dive into each of them.

However, the one that I thought that I would focus on

was actually proposition four.

There are 10 statewide ballots, including two bonds.

But proposition four is the safe drinking water,

wildfire prevention, drought preparedness,

and clean air bond act of 2024,

more easily known as the climate bond.

And this one authorizes the state to borrow about $10 billion

for a number of different programs,

including 3.8 for drinking water, flood,

and water resilience,

one and a half billion for wildfire and forest resilience,

1.2 billion for coastal resilience,

450 million for extreme heat mitigation,

700 million for park creation,

and outdoor access programs,

which I thought you might find interesting,

and 850 million for clean air programs,

as well as others for biodiversity protection,

climate smart sustainable,

farms, ranges, and working land programs, and others.

Funding from the bond will also potentially go

to support several clean energy projects,

specific projects,

but we can cover more of that in detail

as that's all worked out in the future.

Thus far, polling is showing that the majority of voters

are planning to support the bond.

There are, of course, several others,

which I'm happy to cover.

If you have interest in any of them,

there are ones related to schools,

to rent and to various Medicare taxes, as well.

Happy to dive into those if you would like,

I have information on each,

or I can follow up with an email if you'd prefer.

No?

Okay.

So then if you'd like,

you can quickly cover what we can expect out of next year.

Fantastic.

So of course, looking ahead to next year,

it's gonna be a whole new tier session.

We're starting a new one.

The new members will be sworn in on December 4th,

and we expect the new legislative session

to begin on January 6th.

In positive news on the budget front,

because obviously that hugely impacts

the legislation that we see,

and what is signed as Ross covered.

September tax receipts were actually above estimates.

I believe around 20% above the original estimates,

indicating that the budget may actually be

in a better position than originally believed.

Certainly not as flush as we were a few years ago,

but in a better position than we were over this last year.

I'm not gonna read the tea leaves too much,

but we can expect legislators to continue focusing

on things such as infrastructure,

transportation, housing, and energy affordability in 2025,

as we know has been a huge topic over this past year.

We'll continue to monitor bills as discussed

and begin as they're discussed,

and also which measures are introduced

to make sure we're keeping track of policies

and be impactful to the city and the city's priorities.

Any other questions?

Well, man, click, we have any public comment on this item.

We do not.

Okay, great, I love you to hang out up there for a minute.

If that's okay, I know I'll pass it over to Council Member Gare,

who asked us to include this item on the agenda.

And sure as lots of thoughts, go ahead.

Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

Thank you very much for the presentation,

and for your ad-vict, because see this year,

I also wanna thank our Chair here for

so little extra work that they have to do

to make sure they're communicating with our staff

on signing all those support letters and opposition letters.

And first, a couple of thoughts right off the bat.

One, I believe Proposition IV fits pretty squarely

in with our policy platform.

So I'd like to, you know, with the Chair's prerogative,

see if the city of Sacramento can go on

in supporting Proposition IV.

We're to do it fantastic, good, thank you very much.

I think there's just both on the water side

and particularly on the forestry side,

because we end up with the smoke when the fires happen.

So those are two major issues, both for our utilities

and then just our public health here.

So thank you, good to know that we're already on that side.

As far as the annual advocacy,

I think, you know, the team has done a great job

in getting us information and keeping us posted.

On as things move along and interacting

when there is something that works against the city's best interest.

Where I think I'd like to see us be a little more proactive.

One, maybe this similar item at the end of February,

once we kind of get a good sense of what the issue

to juror or where the focusing points are.

Our policy platform was very broad,

but if we can see where the legislature is moving

and then be able to be much more engaged,

I think that's what would be very helpful.

So I'd like to see us schedule this for in February.

That's when, you know, as they say, the races are off.

And before that, though, and this is a little bit work

on our part, but I think also on our advocacy team's part

is in the past, other cities do reach out to departments

and ask for particular issues that are restrictive

because of state statutes or codes or certain regulations.

And why they may not be, you know,

transformative big, you know, policies like,

you know, cap and trade, for example.

They are things that we consistently hear

when we're trying to help constituents like,

oh, well, the state law doesn't allow us to do that

or we're restricted by the state to do that.

And some of our, you know, as many of you have worked on this,

our statutes get drafted, you know, 30, 40 years later

and some of those stand the test of time,

but some of those just need to be tweaked or updated.

So I would like to actually direct as part of this

our both city managers team to start putting together a list

of, you know, that's an accruing list of statutes

or issues that affect our ability to accomplish the work

that we're charging our staff to do.

And, you know, many of those times those bills go on consent

and they pass through, a lot of local jurisdictions,

you know, do that already.

But I'd like us to get into that exercise

where we have that many of lists and maybe not next year,

but year after that, we already have a comprehensive list

of minor statutes that some legislator

who would want to take on this effort can help us move

through those issues to help us.

Because I do fight an frustrating one.

So like, well, the statute doesn't let us

and it's a minor tweak, but it's not worth the effort.

So with that, this is from my directions, Madam Chair,

and so it has to be a little more proactive

on those two fronts.

Yes, absolutely.

We see a lot of agencies do that.

I think regional transit's probably our most active

colleague that sponsors bills.

It feels like every year having to do with tweaking things

in their governance body and it's a great way to partner

with our local reps as well as to keep our issues

moving forward.

So, you know, Consuelo, I saw you nodding,

I don't know if you had anything you wanted to add to.

No, okay.

Do you have anything you want to?

Yeah, I would just say on some of that perspective,

I know it's a process that some of you are very familiar with,

but the local government almost bill every year

is another good opportunity to actually work on some

of those kind of technical fixes that maybe doesn't

get stalled on.

And we engage with the consultants and stuff

like that all the time, so happy to do so.

Yeah, that'd be perfect.

And those omnivorous bills obviously, they get going

and there's a deadline if we don't get it in there,

we're not getting it in the second house.

So, the more we build that in there.

And last, last, just, you know, throw in there,

I'm hosting a meeting with Arches

and all of our agencies around the efforts

that we are working on on a renewable hydrogen.

So, I'd like to make sure that your team is engaged

in that effort and that's RTS, say,

Cogger district, SMUD and sewer district.

So, thank you.

Cool, that is Arches' big topic.

Go ahead, Vice Mayor Meeple.

Thank you, thank you, Chair, I appreciate it.

I just really want to agree with my colleague,

Council Member Gare, and say, you know,

I think it's important for us to engage

in the big stuff and a little stuff.

But mostly just want to say thank you so much

to Ross and McKinley for your work,

the work of the firm.

You know, you always have the interest of the city at heart

and just want to appreciate you

and know that we're in very good hands.

So, thank you.

Appreciate it, thank you.

Yeah, I got to bump into Ross quite a bit

at the end of session through my day job

and that was fun to me to see him

working in the city of Sacramento,

and I was doing my work for my day job, that was fun.

All right, so that's the direction.

You come back in February and maybe Consuelo

work with the city team to see if there's any proactive,

either big nets or little nets

that we can try to advance, you know,

during the next session and we'll see where the tide blows

and how we can try to tag on

since city was Sacramento priorities.

Great, thank you both for being here.

We appreciate you.

Thank you.

Awesome, and thank you Consuelo for organizing that.

All right, next item on our agenda,

item six, the Tenant Protection Program Update.

Welcome Peter.

Good morning, Chair Brownsweil and committee members.

I'm Peter Lee Most, your code

and housing enforcement chief for community development.

Today I would like to provide some brief and update

on the Tenant Protection relief act

and present some minor modifications

as we discussed during our last presentation

to this committee on September 17th of this year.

On August 13th, 2019 City Council adopted

the addition of chapter 5.156,

also known as the Tenant Protection Relief Act.

The program was established to assist residents

with increasing rental rates

by establishing set limits on annual rent

increases for certain properties

and for long term tenants to have

provide protections for unwarranted lease terminations

also known as just cause evictions.

This program was adopted and it was set to sunset,

on December 31st of 2024.

As discussed during our last presentation

to the committee, staff is prosing three minor modifications

to the existing ordinance.

Number one, first adding the definition

of substantial repairs to be consistent with state law.

Two, to clearly state the requirement

for property registration and conjunction with the annual fee.

And three, to modifying the sunset date

at the recommendation of this committee

from December 31st, 2024 to December 31st,

2029.

This is a five year extension

and this will allow us to further work with our stakeholders

and evaluate and modify the programs needed.

Today we're seeking this committee review and comment

on these minor modifications to chapter 5.156

relating to the City's Tenant Protection Relief Act

and for the committee to pass a motion

forwarding the ordinance as amended

to City Council for consideration and adoption.

I think that's the presentation.

Great, thank you.

It is exactly what we talked about on September.

So thank you for that update, though, Peter.

Please, and I'm quick.

Do you have any public comments on this item?

Thank you.

We have four speakers.

First is Matt McDonald, followed by Josh Okin.

Josh Oken, the cherry hot.

All right.

Good morning, Matt McDonald with the California

Apartment Association.

We would like to repeat our preference

that TPP expiration would go forward

and let AB 1482 be the common standard statewide.

However, we also recognize the City of Sacramento

has invested a great deal of effort

and energy into the creation and maintenance of TPP.

If the Council does extend TPP for an additional five years,

we reiterate the need for one further public education

on renters rights and two gathering

of statistically reliable data

on the effectiveness of the program.

We stand by what we said at the last hearing

that we will assist the City and renter education

wherever possible.

If the committee chooses to send TPP to Council

for the five-year extension and it is adopted by Council,

we look forward to working with the City

to expand education on the issue

and work in cooperation with further city efforts.

Thank you.

Thank you for your comment.

Our next speaker is Josh, followed by Shree,

then our last speaker is Chris Valencia.

Good afternoon, Chair and committee members.

My name is Josh Oken.

On behalf of the Sacramento Association of Realtors.

We support the staff's recommendation

to extend the program for five years

to collect additional information,

provide more education and provide stability

to the program for the tenants and for the landlords.

An extension of the TPP offers a vital opportunity

for more education for both tenants and landlords.

The Realtors are eager to collaborate

with the City to facilitate this educational outreach,

which will clarify how the tenant protection program

and the rental inspection program operate.

As a community, we want to balance tenant protections

with the well-being of the housing market.

Notably, the survey data indicates

that most property owners in our city

own between one and three properties,

underscoring the local nature of these investments

and the role in supporting our economy.

Many local mom and pop landlords rely on rental income

as a vital part of their retirement plans,

introducing overly burdensome legislation

could jeopardize their financial security and livelihoods.

As costs associated with housing,

such as property taxes and insurance continue to rise,

it is imperative that we create an environment

where local housing providers can continue to operate.

Should these providers exit the market,

we risk further constricting rental options

and inadvertently paving the way

for increased corporate ownership of housing.

A balanced approach is crucial.

If the regulatory environment becomes too onerous,

capital investment in local housing will decline

adversely impacting the market.

If landlords are unable to afford their property maintenance,

they may refrain from investing in their units

and surrounding communities.

This can lead to a decline in the overall quality

of life for all residents.

Ultimately, we must continue our efforts

to create more housing and create a feasible pathway

to homeownership.

Thank you.

Thank you for your comments.

Our next speaker is Sheree Hunt,

followed by Chris Vounzane.

Good afternoon, committee members.

My name is Sheree Hunt.

I'm a Realtor and a small business owner.

I'm here to speak on the tenant protection program

as someone who has a direct line

to both the tenants and landlords, the connection of the two.

I stand in support of an extension at this time.

It's worked to stabilize our local rents

from skyrocketing to just moderately growing up.

Over the last two years,

what's missing is our education component, really.

There's a lot of misunderstanding

about the different parts of this whole program.

And the public is really misunderstanding it.

So I urge you to include that next go around.

As a Realtor, I understand the supply and demand.

It's really an interesting way to keep the rents down,

just by creating more housing in general.

Unfortunately, some of the programs actually create

more restrictions and costs to the landlords,

but the end result is forcing them to sell their properties

as they can no longer afford to be kind to their tenants

and give them a break.

Many of my small property owners

who have used their first home as a rental

are now selling and moving out of state

to more friendly environments.

The homes are being bought up fast by homeowners

and taking them out of our rental pool.

When there is less homes in the rental pool,

rents go up, simple.

We just need to build more homes

and help people find a pathway to affordable home ownership

that is also in their best interest and the tenants.

I wanna close by saying thank you for your dedication

to housing creation, but the please keep

the existing tenant protection program in place.

Thank you.

Thank you very comments.

Our last speaker is Chris Valencia.

Good morning.

Hello Madam Chair and Council members.

My name is Chris Valencia.

I'm speaking on behalf of the North State Building Industry

Association.

We support staff recommendations on this

and urge that you move this to the full council

for consideration.

We believe that it is important to keep,

it's important to keep it financially feasible

to continue building housing in Sacramento.

We do not want to discourage additional housing supply.

And with the rental market being able to bring on so many,

bring online so many units,

it has kept rents relatively stable here

in the city of Sacramento.

For these reasons, we do urge your support on this matter.

Thank you.

Thank you for your comment.

That was our last speaker.

Great, thank you.

Never thought I'd see the day we're both a BA

and the realtor support this.

And I just wanna acknowledge and thank you both

for your flexibility and willingness to work with the city

to make a program that makes sense

for as many stakeholders as possible.

And with that, I will pass it over to Council member Gara.

Great, thank you very much.

I appreciate every use.

I made the comments.

I was gonna make, I appreciate everyone's hard work.

And I'll move the item and with only one direction

that on the issue of 2-1-1 for renters education

that we bring this up during our meeting with SHRA

and our housing authority to look at,

if there are ways, when we look at CDBG funding

or other funding to expand the renters education program.

So I know we've looked at more brick and mortar programs

for that, but I don't know if we're eligible for that,

but I'd like to see how we do that.

So that's it.

Thank you, Chair.

For that.

Thank you so much.

Vice Chair Jennings.

Thank you very much.

I just wanna support my colleagues' motion.

Put a second to it, especially with the education

for our partners to make sure that that's in place.

The speakers made it very clear that the program is working,

but we need to expand more education.

And so with that said, we have to make sure

we have a robust educational program over the next five years

so that it meets the needs of the people.

Yeah, absolutely agree.

Nice mayor, Meepold.

Thank you, Chair.

And just when I agree with my colleagues, again,

thank everyone for showing up.

It's really is a great thing to see everyone working together

who cares and comes from different perspectives,

but finding a path forward that works.

Nike and also say, just anecdotally,

from hearing from my constituents that this is a program

that they also feel works for them.

So that's a great place to be.

You've got people who are working in the industry.

You've got people who are living in our neighborhood.

And I do agree with the fact that we need to have more education.

And we need to make sure that people understand.

And so we look forward to working with you all

to make that a reality.

So thank you.

Excellent.

We are all in consensus.

We have a motion and a second.

All in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

And the oppose at stain that passes unanimously.

Thank you, staff.

Again, for bringing this forward in such a timely manner

and this rate will be just two weeks, I think,

under the deadline for this to expire.

So appreciate your work on this.

All right, moving along to our final item, item seven,

an account number proposal request to amend the city code

relating to firearm and ammunition sales.

For those who have not been here for one of these items

of floor, unfortunately, both colleagues

who proposed this item do not sit on this committee

so they can't come to present.

So we'll start with public comments

so that you can talk a little bit.

I know, Council Member Gare has submitted something

very similar in the past.

So I'll be looking for him to make some comments.

And then we will decide on one of a few options, which

could be to ask staff to work on bringing us something

we can vote on, because this hasn't been vetted yet

by anybody, including our city attorney

to make sure everything's legal and good

so that we can vote on it.

And a few other options we could always send it back

to the members, et cetera, et cetera.

So we will discuss that after we hear from you.

So, Madam City Clerk.

Thank you. We have 10 speakers.

If you can line up behind the podium,

as your name is called, first is Anita,

followed by Jebra, Dan Leah.

Good morning.

My name is Anita Rosso.

I'm with the DJGO Music Is Life Arts Foundation.

I'm requesting that the committee pass a motion directing

the appropriate council, a point of officer,

to commence work on the proposal with committee members

and forward the item to the city council for consideration

without further review by the committee.

I am a mother who continues to grieve and mourn

the loss of my son, Giovanni Pisano.

Better known as DJGO, I wholeheartedly

approve this proposal and ask you to please forward the item

to the city council for consideration

without further review by the committee

to help stop the killing of our children.

I look forward to working with councilmember Kaplan

in the future roundtable on the next steps.

Thank you.

Thank you for being here today.

Thank you for your comment.

Our next speaker is Jebra, followed by Leah,

and Cynthia.

Good morning.

I am definitely honored to be here today.

I am Deborah Grimes, and I am today representing

the Greg Najee Grimes 212 Anchor Foundation.

I'm here today as Najee's mom.

I am requesting that the committee pass a motion

directing the appropriate council appointed officer

to commence work on the proposal with committee members

and forward the item to the city council

for consideration without further review by the committee.

Over the last two years, I've worn mini shirts,

red winds, purple winds, mini shirts.

Some of you are aware that my son was tragically murdered

just a couple of blocks from here two years ago,

Fourth of July.

And since that time, I've met many incredible families.

So tragically, we are a collective.

We have the same loss there, survivor families as well.

The throughline is that all of these murders

were senseless gun violence.

I've been to many visuals, and many of those Lisa Kaplan

has also been there as well.

So I know that her mind or heart or spirit

is in the right place with that.

I'd like to say that

if you could imagine a teenager who is under age

trying to get into a gun shop because he's just curious

about guns, but he's denied.

With that saved lives, you bet it would.

So that's the kind of framework.

Thank you for your comment. Your time is now complete.

Yes. Thank you very much.

Thank you for being here.

Thank you very much.

Our next speaker is Leah, followed by Cynthia,

the many.

Good morning. My name is Leah Shankin.

I am the founder of Impact, and I am requesting that the committee pass

the motion directing the appropriate council appointed officer

to commence work on the proposal with committee members

and forward the item to the city council for consideration

without further review by a committee with the recognition

that there will be a community roundtable to address any concerns.

I also want to add, as I sit in court today with our case street families

from the case street shooting, which is the deadliest shooting known

to Sacramento history.

I say that it's imperative that we begin to have these conversations.

I think it's imperative that we act.

I think that if we don't, we continue to lose lives.

We had a 15-year-old shot just early this morning and Sacramento.

We can't continue to ignore these things.

We have to act. We have to do something and the time is now.

Thank you.

Thank you for your comment.

Our next speaker is Cynthia, followed by Benny.

Thank you.

Hello, I'm Cynthia Shellett and I'm with mom's demand action for gun

sense.

I'm requesting that the committee pass this motion directing the

appropriate council appointed officer to commence work on the proposal

right away.

So I think the other people have spoken very clearly and I just want you to know

that our whole organization is really watching you and thank you for

considering this proposal.

Thank you for our comment.

Our next speaker is Benny, followed by Kyrista, the Mary.

Benny?

Benny?

Okay, Kyrista.

Thank you.

Hi, my name is Kyrista Ghanapathi and I work in the city.

For all the tragedies that you hear,

there are countless almost tragedies and those are reminders to how close things can

and how terrible things can turn out.

When I was 13, another 13-year-old girl pointed a gun in my face and she was very angry

and she didn't pull the trigger.

I talked my way out but these things happened and that gun was in near us because the father

was trying to protect his family so he had a gun.

This happens.

This is a story that could play out anytime, not just so many years ago but today too.

So I just wanted to say that we need to have better ordinances and laws to ensure

that more gun owners are probably storing their guns and keeping them safe from their children.

And so anything that you can do I think would help greatly with that.

So thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you for your comment.

Let's try this again, Barry.

Many, many.

Morning, morning guys.

Barry Axe is founder of Voice of the Youth and I don't shoot our future down.

I just feel that this is an important moment that we have in our city.

A much needed conversation for us to be able to deep dive in the effects of what's

happening in our communities.

Too long that we've thought that a gun violence has just been centered and underprivileged

underserved communities but as we've seen this cancer has spread.

So for me, I think it's vital to create a committee,

organized team of individuals who are on the ground, individuals who know exactly what our

communities need, all communities that are affected by gun violence as well as the victims

that are left and as well as hopefully preventing some of them necessary things.

My focus is definitely on making sure that in the conversation we are directly centered on

looking at how do we stop young people from getting guns?

How do we stop young people from continuously getting guns and getting out of juvenile hall

to go commit another gun violence offense?

So these kind of things I feel that if we don't start talking about it,

we're going to have more and more tragic incidents and we're going to have more and more

families that are going to be victims of gun violence.

Thank you very much for your guys, Estant.

Thank you for a comment.

Next speaker is Mary followed by James, then Zion.

Hi, my name is Mary DuPlaugh and I've been a volunteer for various organizations

in Sacramento fighting gun violence.

I am a gun violence survivor and I am here representing every parent, every brother's sister,

aunt, cousin, uncle, in Sacramento that has lost a loved one to gun violence.

My daughter went to college, a way to college and she never came home.

She was shot and killed before she could even attend one class.

She was born in Sacramento and loved Sacramento and I love Sacramento and I don't want to see

another person in this community suffer and Lisa Kaplan, I applaud you for this and I wholeheartedly

supported. When I heard that San Jose was approving liability insurance for gun owners,

I was thrilled and I am surprised that there aren't other cities adopting that and I think it's

a fantastic idea. Everything on this list will save lives and I thank you.

Thank you for your comment. Our next speaker is James, followed by Zion, then our last speaker is

Rashid.

Hi everyone, my name is Zion Tatessa, everyone knows me from Queen Shiva and also Shiva Farms

Foundation. So for me this is really an amazing initiation because it's all about the policy.

If we don't have no policy to control the gun that is in our community, especially 15,

16 year olds right now it's like a candy. It's all over our community and they,

you know, the youth are killing each other through not just police violence, community

violence is out of control. I know we can be blind eye but this is a really an amazing

initiation how we can actually protect our kids because we don't have to be praying every night,

especially black women for our kids to return, especially those ones who have black kids.

I think this is, I mean, I really thank Lisa for initiating this. This is a policy that really

overdue, especially in our community's Sacramento. Otherwise our youth are going to kill each other

because mental health is pandemic right now. Poverty is in our community so we have to create

policy for that too. It's everyone of you I wish that you all have some policy like this really

to protect and invest in our community, especially in our youth. So I thank Lisa for this amazing

opportunity. We don't need to create the will already San Jose has passed it so we can follow

those type of policy to really implement it here in our community so we can protect all of us

in our family in our community. So I thank all of you so hopefully you really passed this

emotion because this is really passed you. Thank you. Thank you for a comment or next speaker's James

followed by Rashid. Hello my name is James and I was on. So when I was younger me and my cousin

we were going to the store and we were robbed by you know people and it's kind of funny because

we shouldn't have been robbed. There should be gun and control and hmm I don't know it like

violence that has long overdue there should have been gun control because these killings shouldn't

be happening. Me and my cousin shouldn't have been shot at by a robber with a gun and it's just

shouldn't be happening. It may seem like it's by design because of why there are so many guns in the

community in the first place but there just shouldn't be like when you really think about it and

I don't know that's basically it. Thank you for a comment our last speaker is Rashid.

How you doing? Received the deco would lift up love always. First of all I want to

bring my heart to the parents who have lost their parents are the kids. I can't imagine the heart

that they maybe have holding but I have a few questions about this policy.

Lobbility insurance. Lobbility insurance may be good for some but for poor people it may be a

strange. So to me it says that this is a bias policy to poor people because after I purchased my

gun rightfully now I have to continue to make payments on having the gun. So that's the only kind

of issue I have and I don't think liability insurance necessarily saves a life. I actually had

an opportunity to participate in a one year study, a behavior study throughout the state.

50% of gun owners commit suicide. So majority of gun owners really have there's a mental

issue going on when they purchase the gun. More than 50% is 56% actually. So I think there's more

a behavior issue and they have 2016 California passed the law for gun violence restraining orders.

So this gives an opportunity for teachers, family members, friends. If they notice something they

can make a call and say hey Rashid has been depressed. He just purchased a gun. I'm not sure if he's

going to use it on himself or others and you can report that. That gun can then be

held for 30 days and then that person can go through an assessment and evaluation to see if they

are okay to receive this gun back. Thank you for your comment your time is now complete.

We have no more speakers on the side. Thank you Rashid. Yeah. Your time is complete. I'm sorry.

I, your point is well taken. Thank you. Thank you. All right. I am going to move it over to start to

my colleague council member Gara. Thank you very much. Appreciate that Madam Chair. First,

my first thoughts go out to all of the parents here who've lost someone as a parent to little kids.

It's the most horrific thing that you can even imagine and the fact that you've lived through it.

You know, my heart goes out to you. And it's also a reminder about how fragile life really is.

You know, in split of a second. And it's a reason why I think we need to move forward on this item.

And also why the city needs to take, you know, further action on these items.

You know, thank you, Ms. Grimes, for, you know, the strength and the courage to help those.

And thank you to the other parents here from mom's demand action who have, who have stepped up and

encouraged our city. I, you know, because of mom's demand action, we put forward a gun storage

concept. Thankfully, the state was able to move a faster action here and the governor just

signed a gun storage law that helps jurisdictions like ours. And all of these efforts, all of these

efforts combined, I think are what is going to help us save lives. This is just the starting point.

And I want to thank Councilmember Kaplan for looking at this and also the city of San Jose, the good

people of San Jose who said, you know, enough is enough. The fact is, you know, that,

that firearms and responsible fire on responsible fire on ownership is essential. And, and that includes

recognizing that they are a liability as well. Just like your car is a tool for transportation, it can

also be a very dangerous item and a risk and a liability. And so I think the fact that the city

of San Jose has started in looking at this about how with the danger and the damage and a reminder

to those who are going to be any gun owner is going to be a responsible gun owner. So that means

securing your firearm and then dealing with the potential risk of that firearm. And this is

one step moving forward. So I will personally say that I know personally the feeling of what it's

like to have, you know, a firearm, you know, waved at you, pointed at you, and it's a terrifying

feeling that you will never escape and then will never leave you. And even worse if it's

if it's used against you. And these were, you know, they weren't purchased illegally. And the fact is

because irresponsible gun owners don't secure their firearms and are reminded about about what

happens when they're not being responsible gun owners to secure their firearms. Not only are they

sometimes lost or stolen or forgotten about when someone passes away, they're inherited and

those owners are not taking to securing them. But worst, the number of children nationally

who accidentally shoot themselves or a friend is a travesty. And those aren't random guns on

the street being purchased illegally. So the I think the steps that we're taking here are, you know,

prudent. And so I'm willing to make a motion to move item number two so that this moves directly

to the council. Normally I'd have the language come back to this committee, but the good city of

San Jose I think has done a lot of the legwork for us. And there's been some legal precedent already.

And for allows us to have this discussion at the council and move forward because this is just

one step. There are many different ways of addressing this. And we know having been on working on

domestic violence issues that a firearm that is unsecured or a responsible, irresponsible gun owner

who doesn't take every action to you to secure and understands the consequences of it,

they've used them in those situations. So with that, Madam Chair, I'll move item number two.

That's my motion. Thank you, council member. I'll move on to vice mayor Mipal.

Thank you, Chair. And just really want to start by thanking council member Kaplan and Mayor Steinberg

for bringing this forward, but also the community members because we know that nothing that happens

on the stya is anywhere in this building happens without the community and it usually comes straight

from it. So thank you for being here for your advocacy. I know it's not easy getting here on a Tuesday

in the middle of the afternoon, but thank you for your service. And again, also want to share the

sentiments of my colleagues about I'm just so sorry for your loss and it's really powerful

and inspiring to see some incredibly strong women and other people to be here and use that,

turn that energy and that emotion and the anger and the frustration into action.

And that's what we're seeing here today. So I'm happy to second the motion to move forward.

And I'm really looking forward to seeing this come to the full council for consideration because

I think as one of the speakers said, it's about time. So thank you.

All right, Vice Chair Jennings. Thank you, Chair. I want to thank all the people who came today.

You touched my heart as far as your testimony. And I took it on every single word you said,

how do we stop young people from getting guns? All murders, all murders are senseless.

And we continue to lose lives. And one of the most powerful things that you said that allows us to

move today says the time is now to act. We must act now. We are already too late in some cases.

It's a much needed conversation. And I don't want to see another person or another family suffer.

This gives us more resources to help protect our children, our families, and our communities.

Then we have to. And so the time is now to act. And I'm glad my colleagues have put the motion

up. I'm glad it's been second. I had hope that we would get it back here first, but I understand

from a timing standpoint, we need to move faster than slower. And the reason that I had hope that

it would come back here is because we could then take a peek at it before we give it to the full

council just to make sure that it includes things like I heard community roundtable, which I don't

know is now a part of what we're going to be doing if we accept the item number two. We won't be

able to go to the community roundtable. So I want to take that off the table if we decide to go

that way and make sure that we get others input to this as well. But I understand the sense of

urgency. And so I'm willing to support item number two in an effort to get to that. And then when

we get to the council, maybe we can then after we get to the council, make sure that we get out to

the community. So we can have those community roundtables in each one of our districts. And we can

have more conversations about this so that everybody will be able to have their voice heard as well.

So I heard your voice today loud and clear. And I think we're going to act on what you have told us to do.

Thank you, vice chair. Councilman Gertich, do you have another point before I make my-

Yes, I just wanted to thank Councilman Jennings for making those that comment. And I have spoken

to the author of the proposal and she has committed her resource to ensuring that those

community roundtables occur prior to the council meeting. And also that the issues of

the multiple of issues of mental health and hardship are all part of those conversations

in the community roundtable. So again, it's one step forward, but that wanted to make sure that you

knew that that that process is moving forward. Thank you for that additional point, council member.

I want to echo the vice chair's points and give the vice chair a lot of credit for your

voice and violence prevention efforts across the city for your entire time on council. I was lucky

to participate in some of those listening sessions shortly after I came into council with the

mayor and yourself where service providers told us very clearly about what you needed in terms

of resources and coordination and infrastructure in order to address the whole gun violence

epidemic. I think if the roundtables are about gun control, that's a more like the outcome of

eliminating gun violence, you know, gun controls and important part of that. And I will support

the motion today as well because this is an important tool we have, but I will always say,

and I'm a little bit of a broken record to this point, but you know, this city saw two years with

no euthamicides, two years with no euthamicides. And that was a huge thanks to a lot of people

across the city who worked very hard with very robust funding to try to ensure that outcome was

realized. And so we often point to other countries, gun violence outcomes as so much better than

the United States, but those other countries have other things besides gun control as well,

you know, they have robust health care, they have robust education systems, they have systems

in place to ensure that it is less likely someone is going to get to the point of either poverty

or mental illness or some other crisis to where they reach for gun as the resolution. And so

I just have to continue to say that because I think there's only so far on the gun control issue

without federal action, there's only so far we can go. Some of the stuff that's happening online,

some of the stuff that we know that our young people are seeing and have access to is incredibly

disturbing and we won't get there until we get there, right? Like we need to hit all of the

points of gun control, but we also really want to ensure that people have healthy lives and have

healthy resources and that's a very much broader conversation. And so I guess I just want to put

this in context of the broader conversation and really want to assert that if those listening

sessions are happening, I really want to insist that council member Jennings be included in those

listening sessions because of his relationships and because of your history of working on these

issues, we've seen an unacceptable spike in youth homicides but in gun violence generally in

the city ever since we changed course away from what those service providers were doing for many

years quite successfully. And I just don't want us to lose sight of the fact that much more is

possible that we can do more than just, you know, try to limit the ability of minors to go into

stores, right? We can do a lot more than that. And I just want to hold us to that higher standard while

we also move this item forward as well. So with that, we have a motion and a second. All in favor,

please say, sorry. Oh, vice chair Jennings, sorry, thank you Madam Chair. Yeah, I don't want to prolong

this matter, but I do want to put it, I want to be transparent in saying that the RFP process that

was in the staff report, I do want to have a conversation about that more extensively. And I think

what we're getting ready to do allows us to be what have that because I don't believe in the

city, the size of Sacramento that one nonprofit can educate the entire city. And I'm thinking that

you're going to have to have more nonprofits that are strategically placed in our district districts

so that they can do the education that's needed to the number of people who are going to require it.

And so I just want to make put that on the table today to say I'm not satisfied that only one

nonprofit would get that award and they would be able to do the work that's necessary to do the

education to the number of people who will need it. Now I appreciate that vice chair and I will say

that it's not clear to me in this submission if that was also a part of the San Jose law that they

passed. And so it would be great to get a little bit of that discussion going and I'm glad

even happier now that I've asked you to please participate in those meetings with the authors of

this so that we can make sure that when this does come to council we have all the answers and

evidence that we need to ensure that this fits into a broader strategy that is based on best practices.

All right then we have a motion and a second all in favor please say aye. Aye.

I'm posed abstained. That passes unanimously. Thank you all for being here today and for your

continued advocacy in our community. All right with that committee comments ideas, questions,

reports, anything? Any comments off agenda item clerk? All right with that we are adjourned at

noon on the dot.