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Good evening.

Welcome to Monday, January 13th, 5.30 p.m. meeting of the measure you and welcome everyone.

The meeting is now called to order.

Clerk, will you please do the roll call to establish a form?

Thank you, Chair.

Members, if you please unmute your microphones.

Commissioner McGee.

Present.

Commissioner Smith is absent.

Commissioner Wolfe.

Present.

Commissioner Johnston.

Present.

Commissioner Gores.

Here.

Commissioner Georgeoff.

Here.

Commissioner Geroski.

Here.

Commissioner Fry Lucas.

Here.

Commissioner Paschal.

Here.

Commissioner Rosa.

Here.

And Vice Chair Sala.

Here.

Thank you.

We have Quorum.

Thank you.

I want to remind the public that if you'd like to speak on an agenda item for those that

are here physically, turn in a speaker slip and when the item begins.

And also you have two minutes to speak once you're called upon.

After the first speaker, we're not going to no longer, can we, we will not accept speaker

steps.

We will now proceed with today's agenda.

And that starts with the land acknowledgement.

To the original people of this land, the Nissan people, the southern Maidu Valley, and

planes me walk.

Patwin, wind two peoples, and the people of the Wilton Rancheria, Sacramento's only federally

recognized tribe.

May we acknowledge and honor the native people who came before us and still walk beside

us today on the ancestral lands by choosing to gather together today in the active practice

of acknowledgement and appreciation for Sacramento's indigenous people's history, contributions

and lives.

Thank you.

We will now say the pleasure of allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the value of the United States and to the public for which it stands

under the flag.

Thank you.

Okay.

So our first business today is to approve the consent calendar.

Clerk, are there any members of the public who wish to speak on the consent calendar?

Actually, Vice Chair, before we do the consent calendar, we have a line item to welcome new

commissioners, Sandra Fry Lucas and Malie Groski, Maximilian Rosa and Timothy Smith.

Yes, welcome.

I'm sorry.

I didn't see that here, but yes, welcome to the measure you commission and your appointment.

I know it's going to be a little bit disfirst meeting, disconcerting, but trust me, you'll

get the hang of it and it's very, it'll be very enlightening and you're going to enjoy

being part of this commission as all of us have and are.

Oh.

Any of the new commissioners would like to introduce themselves now would be a good time.

My name is Sandra Fry Lucas.

Oh, I'm Sandra Fry Lucas.

I got you here too.

Oh, you get okay.

I'm Maximilian Rosa.

I am Emily Groski.

And Timothy Smith is not present this evening.

Thank you and again, welcome.

So as I was saying, are there any members of the public who wish to speak on the consent

calendar?

Thank you, Chair.

I have no speakers lips on the consent calendar.

Okay.

Are there any commissioners who want to speak on this issue?

Okay.

Is there a motion and a second for the consent calendar?

Madam Vice Chair, I will make the motion to approve the consent calendar.

I'll second.

Okay.

Commissioner Orga, is there a second?

I got a motion from Commissioner Gores with a second from Commissioner George Off.

Okay.

Please call the roll for the vote.

Thank you, Chair.

Commissioner's please unmute.

Commissioner McGee?

Yes.

Commissioner Smith is absent.

Commissioner Wolff.

Sorry.

Sorry, I missed a question.

You can.

Yeah, I could I approve.

Commissioner Johnston.

Yes.

Commissioner Gores.

Aye.

Commissioner George Off.

Yep.

Commissioner Joroski.

Yes.

Commissioner Paskel.

Yes.

Commissioner Frey Lucas.

Here.

On the vote for the consent calendar, I do need a yes or no.

Yes.

Commissioner Rosa.

Yes.

And Vice Chair Sala.

Yes.

Thank you.

The motion passes.

Thank you.

We are now going to proceed to the discussion calendar.

And that is who?

Wait a minute.

Sorry.

I'm new at this.

Oh, that's right.

This is probably why we need a new chair and vice chair.

So that's what we're going to select the chair and vice chair.

Our current chair's term ended and then the vice chair term has ended as well.

So do we have any nominations for the chair?

We're starting with the chair.

I will nominate Commissioner Wolfe for chair.

Okay.

Is there a second?

I'll second.

I would second that.

Is there any other nominations?

I think he went like this.

Yes.

Forbally.

Yes.

My colleagues would like me to all accept.

Hey.

No.

There is no other individual.

So I heard a motion by Commissioner Goris.

I believe a second by Commissioner Paschal.

You're giving me a look but I don't want to nominate myself.

That would be weird.

So if you want to.

Oh, yes.

I wasn't too sure what that your response was.

Yes.

I would like to nominate Commissioner George.

We have a second.

Is there a second?

Can I have some clarification on how this works from a logistics example?

I don't know if there.

Because we have two nominated.

And like the vice chair is the same.

No, the vice chair is after the chair.

So these two potentials are both commissioners going up for the one seat.

And I think that's a good understanding.

Correct.

So I received a main motion from Commissioner Goris nominating Commissioner Wolfe

for the chair position with a second by Commissioner Paschal.

I then received a substitute motion from Commissioner Sala nominating Commissioner George

off.

And was there a second on that motion?

I would second that motion.

Second.

First motion.

Mr. Paschal did the seconds on the on the main motion.

So I'll defer to the city attorney's office.

We will take the substitute motion first.

Is that correct?

Yeah.

Excellent.

Oh, I made.

So what I would do is if it's okay with the rules and with our commissioners,

I would amend my motion to make the motion for Commissioner Wolfe for chair and for

Commissioner George off as the vice chair if we can do it in one package if that's okay.

So the motion on the table is for commissioner George off for chair as well.

Not for vice chair.

You could amend the original motion.

Provided that George off accepts the vice chair nomination and that the second also accepts

to modify the motion.

Or you could vote right now based on whatever the chair wants which one goes first.

So I believe the chair can pick which vote goes first whether it's Commissioner George off

the substitute motion or the first motion.

I would like to go to have the substitute motion go first.

Then that's fine.

You could have the substitute motion go first.

Can we like can we have some discussion?

Yeah.

I mean, I guess I don't know how constrained we are in terms of what the discussion topics,

but it seems like it would be nice if there's multiple people interested in the positions like here from both of them, etc.

So right now we just have the motions discussion.

Once we have the motions that are going to take place discussion can happen after based on.

Yeah.

Every the chair's preference and the request to speak.

Okay.

So we're we're now having a discussion on the substitute motion.

Okay.

Commissioner Gores.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

I keep hitting the wrong button.

Sorry.

So my reasoning and the reason why I set the motion away.

It was basically just seniority just as we kind of move through this process and we have a lot of new commissioners.

Vice chair solas the most senior season commissioner on this commission followed by me.

I don't want it.

I don't want it.

And Commissioner Wolf was the next one.

So it was just natural to me to just go to with a commissioner wolf.

And then Teddy is after I commissioner Georgia.

Sorry.

And he's so eloquent and he's so great in what he does.

But again, I just wanted to kind of just follow behind Marcus and then hopefully we'll set him up to be a chair next time if that's what happened.

So that's kind of what my reasoning was.

Okay.

Commissioner McGee.

Based on the discussion that has gone forward.

I know that we have two on the table for the senior role.

So my question is to commissioner.

Georgia, you know, would you take the vice chair or is it your intention that you also want to be up for the chair?

I can talk on this a little bit.

Yeah, it would be my intention to be the chair.

I've talked with quite a few members already about that position.

They seem to be vocal that they would be supportive of that.

Based off the action that we've had previously, such as reestablishing ad hoc as well as the metrics initiatives that were pretty heavily carried by myself.

And so, you know, I think going into the next future years, we have a lot of things that we want to achieve.

So, I think that's a proof of having things with results.

It's something that I think is incredibly important.

And so, that's what I bring forward to the table if the committee sees to see me as chair in the next few years.

Thank you for that clarification.

And let me, is anybody else want to make any comments?

Yes.

Commissioner Wolfe.

Yeah, I appreciate your ambition.

I know that you've done a really good job showing up the meetings and speaking on behalf of the committee.

So, thank you for that and Kudos. You've done a really good job of that.

My general nature is to be non-conflictual.

And I'd be happy to accept the vice chair position given this.

And he's his ambition to do it.

I think he would do a very good job.

So, I don't know if there's, you know, renegotiating motions.

It sounded like we get to discuss it after a vote.

But I am, you know, I'd be happy to nominate myself to be vice chair to call any questions about the legitimacy of an election.

So, if a member Goris amends the motion and the second, which I believe was member Pascal, is okay with it, the motion can be modified.

Okay.

So, I will modify my motion and I will, I guess, we tracked it.

Correct. So, the way it sounded to me is that you were now, are you now not accepting the nomination for chair that you were nominated for by Commissioner Goris?

Sure.

So, the main motion, there's no drops.

Yeah.

I think it's because Commissioner Wolfe declined the nomination.

So, now we have a motion on the table for, for, remember, George office chair made by Commissioner Sala, the second by Commissioner McGee.

So, we do have a motion on the table for the chair position if we want to take that motion.

Now, if there's no other substitute motions.

So, as long as Commissioner Pascal is okay with me retracting my motion, then, yeah, I guess we're good.

I said so.

Yeah. So, we can just vote on the amended motion and get that.

So, it's clear and clean and then, and then we'll make the motion for the vice chair.

I just want to say why I, I wasn't sure that Commissioner George off wanted to be chair, but I, over the past year, I've seen him very eloquently.

Defend policies that measure you as advocating for in front of the city council, in front of budget and audit in front of law and ledge.

And, and he does his homework and he really has put a lot of time and energy and to understanding policies past practices.

And I believe that he will serve the commission very well as chair.

So, that's why I, I support it and, and I'm glad that he's accepted.

And I'm glad that you're accepting to be vice chair because I think equally you will be a great vice chair and be in support of all because we have a lot.

In front of us in the next two years and we need talented individuals such as yourselves.

So, with that, I call for the vote.

Excellent. And just to restate it for the record, the motion now is made by Commissioner, Commissioner Sala nominating Commissioner George off as the chair of the

measure you community advisory committee with a second by Commissioner McGee.

I'll now do the roll call vote. Commissioner McGee.

Yes.

Commissioner Smith is absent. Commissioner Wolfe.

Yes.

Commissioner Johnson.

Yes.

Commissioner Gores.

Yes.

Commissioner George off.

Yes.

Commissioner Jurassic.

Yes.

Thank you.

Commissioner Pascal.

Yes.

Commissioner Fry Lucas.

Yes.

Commissioner Rosa.

Yes.

And vice chair Sala.

Yes.

Thank you. The motion passes nominating Commissioner George off as the chair of the measure you community advisory commission.

We'll now take nominations for the vice chair.

I'd like to nominate Commissioner Wolfe for vice chair since he was so eloquently able to resolve our conflict, I suppose, and appreciate it.

And I'll second.

Commissioner Wolfe has received a motion from Commissioner George off nominating Commissioner Wolfe as vice chair for the measure you community advisory commission with a second by Commissioner Goris.

I'll now do the roll call votes.

Commissioner McGee.

Yes.

Commissioner Smith is absent. Commissioner Wolfe.

Yes.

Commissioner Johnston.

Yes.

Commissioner Gores.

Yes.

Commissioner George off.

Yes.

Commissioner Joroski.

Yes.

Commissioner Pascal.

Yes.

Commissioner Fry Lucas.

Yes.

Commissioner Rosa.

Yes.

And chair Sala.

Yes.

Thank you. The motion passes.

Thank you.

Yes.

And then chair you reminded me public comment.

We forgot to take that.

Yes.

So we'll now do that.

I do have one speaker slip on this item. Mr. Lambert Davis.

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Good evening.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I'm as I look across the rough.

And I'm fresh from off the trail of the cheesecakes because it was incredible during the holidays.

But I wanted to say that if I pronounce his name correctly,

George off, that's a good selection because I'm one of the few people that come to these measure you meetings.

And if it's not going to be chair Dickerson or chair Sala, that's a good choice because I've studied him.

And Mark is wolfed.

That's a good one too because we've worked together before.

And he's a man of integrity, at least that dealing with me.

And so I think it's great.

I'm not sure where chair Dickerson is, but I did want to say on the record wherever she's at.

I wanted to thank her because a year ago today, she spoke up on my situation when I was when participatory budgeting was going on.

She actually spoke up during the consent calendar during city council a year ago.

She said I was probably one of the most engaged, civically engaged people in district two regarding measure you.

And that is probably true because I went to a lot of meetings to understand measure you.

And it's been changed many different ways now.

I mean, they've even combined it with the general fund.

I didn't see that or I wouldn't have voted for it.

You know, it was supposed to be separate.

It also was supposed to help underserved communities more.

So try to do that.

The two people that are coming in here try to focus in on that.

Thank you for your comments.

Chair, I have no more speaker slips on this item.

Thank you.

So we're going to move on to the next item on the discussion calendar.

And that is we are going to have municipal services do a presentation.

And just for the new individuals, we've asked that different departments come before each measure you meeting and just present on their department budget directions, etc.

So that as we're getting ready to make decisions on the allocations of measure you funds, we want to be more aware of the different services, the different departments that measure you funds.

Excuse me.

Thank you.

Not to interrupt, but I believe the motion was for the calendar year.

So I believe the chair is the member, George.

Sorry.

No, no, no, it starts at the next.

At the next meeting.

My mistake.

I'm happy for you to do it.

You can take this one.

That's fine.

I got.

Welcome.

Good evening, members of the Measure You Community Advisory Commission.

My name is Matt Ironman.

I'm the Director of Public Works.

Thank you for the opportunities to share how the Department of Public Works leverages measure you funding to enhance Sacramento's infrastructure.

Sustainability and community services.

Public Works is a cornerstone of the city's operations with eight operating divisions, 769 full-time employees, and an annual budget of $241 million.

While Measure You represents less than 1% of the operating budget, 1.8 million, it plays a critical role in specific programs and community improvements.

For the fiscal year 2024 through 2025, our Measure You programs have provided critical support for climate action and sustainability initiatives,

community investments, and responsive community services totaling $4.5 million.

To achieve carbon neutrality by 2045, we establish key goals.

Increase zero emission vehicles to 28% from the current 5%.

Reduce vehicle miles traveled by 25%.

And expand Sacramento's tree canopy to 35% from 19%.

Our recent efforts include EV Blueprint and Building Electro Occasion Projects.

$15 million in grants secured in 2024, including investments in our urban forest, environmental justice initiatives, and charging infrastructure.

Public Works maintains 2,200 parcels, 400 city buildings, and over 5.4 million square feet of space, office space,

including libraries, fire stations, community centers, and museums.

Measure You investments include 2.2 million in fiscal year 2425 for critical repairs such as roofs, plumbing, and HVAC systems.

We also allocate $500,000 for ADA compliance improvements.

Some of our recent projects include fire station entrance gates, EV public charging infrastructure, and accessibility improvements to city council chambers.

Illegal dumping and recycling.

Illegal dumping continues to be a significant challenge with over 11,468 311 requests in 2024.

Measure You funds contribute over $970,000 to cover the disposal associated with 145,351 tons of waste collected annually.

Our response time averages about 2.8 days, which showcases our commitment to community cleanliness.

We're seeing an increase of over 10% year-over-year for costs associated with illegal dumping.

Our facility upgrade investments include in accessibility and structural improvements, ensure that community space remains safe, functional, and inclusive.

Climate action leadership programs like the EV blueprint and building electrification pilots, position Sacramento as a leader in climate resilience.

Illegal dumping response measure you support swift response to illegal dumping, enhancing public space, and improving community satisfaction.

The value of measure you for Sacramento is represents a small portion of public works budget.

Its impact is outsized. It funds critical programs and goals that align with Sacramento's vision for sustainability and equitable future.

It enables public works to act as stewards of community resources, maintaining vital infrastructure, and addressing key community needs.

Thank you for your time and support. Measure You allows us to build a cleaner, safer, and more sustainable Sacramento for all.

The public works team is happy to answer any questions you have, how we utilize these funds, our future plans for measure you investments.

Welcome.

Sorry.

Don't we go to public speakers?

We do.

We do.

I think it's a very good question.

I think it's a good question.

The commission of discussion between each presentation from the department.

Why don't we take them one at a time?

I'll do public comment.

One of the things I noticed was deferred maintenance.

As a person who's a native, my family moved here in 1946, and then of course I was born and raised here.

As a person who had studied deferred maintenance.

Last year I studied some of the ideas that Jackie Beecham had.

They were really outside the thinking of how to approach parks.

For instance, if you go study and you should go visit this park, it's called Wood Lake Park.

And if you go by there, I went by there today.

If you go by Wood Lake Park, there's no restrooms there, and there's water fountains there, and there's also children's apparatus.

Anytime you have that combination, if you know about children, they got to go to the restroom.

Child apparatus, especially.

So when you don't have any restrooms, to me, you shouldn't call it a park.

That's a boom doggo to me.

You don't know what a boom doggo is, you should study that word.

It's a boom doggo.

But if you go to the park where I grew up, which is Hagen Wood Park, that has some restrooms.

That has some water fountains.

That has parks there, baseball and soccer.

So I think the maintenance should be taken.

No funding should go to Wood Lake Park.

It's not a park to me.

You put the money where parks are, and start with Hagen Wood Park.

It's been neglected for decades.

And I know I grew up there.

But really, as a restroom, you should go out and look at Wood Lake Park and see the distinction I'm talking about.

Thank you for your comments.

Chair, I have no more speaker slips.

I see that we have three commissioners wanting to speak in the first one, Commissioner Wolfe.

Past item.

Oh, okay.

Commissioner Fry Lucas.

Or I think that was me.

I think that was mine.

I just had a clarifying question, I guess.

This was, I didn't understand this previously.

You mentioned that your department maintains the facilities for park parks and, or sorry, libraries and fire station, that sort of thing.

Is that, that's so those costs appear on your side of the budget, not in the fire department, not in the library or so forth?

If it's generally funded, it comes out of our budget.

Okay.

If it's an enterprise, then we'll build back to the enterprise.

And that just extends to buildings, not to fire trucks or computers in the library or other physical type infrastructure?

Yeah, like the inventory inside the buildings, I mean, you know, things like desks and things like that will fall under our purview.

If they have specialized items, then they would purchase those.

Thank you.

Okay. Commissioner Johnston.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Wait a minute.

Did you want to go ahead?

Yeah, sure.

First off, thanks for presenting and coming here.

I know it's taking time all your day.

One of the things that you mentioned was that many of these things improve community satisfaction.

And I'm just curious if there's a way that you track that through surveys or through outreach or how did you gauge that improvement or measure it?

Yeah.

Have we done any, no?

Yeah, we haven't done any, I mean, really our customers really the internal customer, right?

So we, you know, the parks are our customer.

And so generally it's the internal divisions or departments that are we're working with.

Okay. So this is, would this be including like surveying internal departments then in terms of like giving feedback?

We don't survey them, but we work very closely with them.

Okay. Got it.

Nothing that's like we can write down and be like, oh, this is like the, this is the gain that we've seen or something like that.

Okay. Understood. One of the things that I kind of wanted to call out as well was like for the climate sustainability, it looks like 562,000 was given, but it's sort of a lot of times we'll see money is given to a program.

And then that money is used to garnish like much more program at state level or even national.

So it looks like $11 million came in for that climate sustainability island item.

I was just curious if we had an idea of like how that got spent in terms of satisfying, you know, whatever climate desires were.

We're looking to have such as like you mentioned getting the cars to reduce emissions.

I think it was like a goal of like 32% or something like that or 35% from 19.

Or no, that was just 5 to 28, I think was the car zero emission progress, right?

Yeah, we have some goals. I don't know if you can speak to that.

This is a, Missinda Volcox, she's the assistant director. She oversees the sustainability group.

Welcome.

Hey, thanks. Again, I'm Missinda Volcox.

So we do. We have four staff. That's what the 560,000 go for that very mighty staff.

And a lot of their work is in obtaining grants and outside funding so that they can do more with that.

So some of those goals that we have in terms of trying to reduce vehicle miles traveled or trying to increase the bar.

They're really longer term goals. But as we like implement programs like putting in additional charging infrastructure and neighborhoods that may not have access to electric vehicle charges.

We then have programs to monitor how's that, you know, are we, how are those being used and who's using those charges so we can see if they're being effective in that way.

So a lot of our goals are longer term. But we are trying to keep abreast of kind of if we're being effective and if we're using the right tools to get there.

That makes sense. So in terms of these long, long term goals, the zero emission goal of like getting from 5% to 28%.

What's your time horizon that you're kind of envisioning with? Yeah, with that goal.

Yeah, I think part of that is, you know, we control what we can control. So some of it is there's a lot of state incentives federal incentives and just greater availability of electric vehicles.

Our goals are really aimed at making sure that we don't leave certain neighborhoods behind in EV adoption so that it's not just everyone who can afford to buy an upscale EV.

But how do we make sure that people that live in apartments that may not have access to home charging infrastructure?

Can also take advantage of electric vehicles or see the use of them. So some of that program is what we put the EV chargers out in those neighborhoods.

So we know kind of based on state efforts, how much we might accomplish if we do nothing.

And then our goal again is to make it possible for everyone to adopt those.

And we're also, we have programs to, we do more education about electric vehicles.

We have part of our grant provided some electric vehicle ride share that is subsidized so that people who may not have used electric vehicle have access to one and can see how it works or use it on a temporary basis.

If they don't need a car all the time. So through, we're able to track probably annually just through vehicle registrations, how many actual electric vehicles are registered in the city.

So we check, we can kind of see how things are going up. But again, we want to check more by zip code to make sure that it's being more equitable.

Yeah, I love that. I saw that there were like 67 or so electrical chargers that we're trying to put on like libraries, parks, all these places. That's fantastic. I love to see that.

And I think it's going to help a lot of people who don't have access to like build one in their home, for example, or their garage.

But I guess one of my questions I'm sort of trying to get to is like, one of the first slides we saw was like, we want to see tree canopy grow from like 19 to 35%.

We want to see zero emission vehicles, but just in our state or city owned vehicles from five to 28% for zero emission vehicles or something.

I believe that's what I saw. I'm trying to get like a timeline for those sort of things. Like, do we see that as like a five year goal, a 10 year goal or like a 20 year goal or something like that?

Well, our tree canopy goal is a 20 year goal. But we measure every five years to see if we're making adequate progress. And if we need to do more interventions.

And then the, again, I think the the EV goal was a shorter term goal. I think that was by 2035 to get to 25%.

And do you feel like we're tracking towards those goals or do you feel like those are very ambitious scores?

And so we haven't again, we'll see I think in the next time we measure how we're doing.

So I think we're making progress. We're probably not making fast enough progress to achieve those goals.

Understood. Thank you for your time.

Thank you. Commission or John?

Yeah, I have just two quick questions. The first might be first staff and whether we can get this report.

There's a lot of great information and data I just can't absorb. So I don't know how that works.

All the slides presented tonight will have public links on the website so we can share that with everybody.

Okay, because I didn't see the link in the agenda said it. No, whether we had to ask or the second is you said 1.8 million comes from measure you.

And I just want or I think that's the right number, right? I wanted to kind of make sure I understood how that budget process goes.

Do they do you have a list of things that you kind of wish that you did that isn't covered by the, you know, just the base general fund.

And then you find out you get a 1.8 million and then these are kind of the extra projects that you wish.

And then you pursue those extra so therefore these projects wouldn't have happened but for measure you funds.

I'm kind of think of how how do you look at the prioritization of the money you get for measure you and that process so we can kind of better assess.

Like this is actually serving projects that would not have happened. That's I love to clean up in the you know the elevator and all that stuff and just help us to better understand.

And also want to thank everyone for being making their time coming out here and talking about this really important stuff.

Yeah, the you know really goes into the facilities right.

So we're upgrading the facilities were making sure that the roofs are in you know being repaired one one they need to be repaired.

Obviously we have about a hundred million dollars in deferred maintenance and we have 1.5 billion total within public works.

So it's not going to it's not going to move the needle too much on the deferred maintenance side of it.

But it does help right and helps us it helps us continue on most of our are operating expense at a public works is either through grant funding or enterprise funds that were very we're very limited.

Expectations on expenditures from the general funds of this helps us to maintain city facilities and.

I mean it it goes into illegal dumping sustainability and city facilities so you're saying that without measure your funds a lot of those projects would not have gotten completed.

There would be put in a queue like every other project that we have and we would have to be bandaging things versus fixing things.

Great. Thank you.

Commissioner Rosa.

Thanks for the presentation that was one thing I was curious about also is how you categorize some of these like funding measures or if there's like a process to triage you know what you use the funds for and how you evaluate the impact.

Well it goes for general fund it you know positions right and and opportunities so it is a very limited amount that public works can use this funding for and so we want to make sure that we are putting the money towards our goals like EV putting out doing the EV blueprint.

Which which is an initiative that put electric vehicle charging within the parks are not the parks the libraries in the community centers and because those things most likely wouldn't happen without the help from the measure you funds we put the E-trike program out there where you could rent EV by bicycle.

At our libraries and are we're now putting out a total of 11 a car share program which allows people access to use electric vehicles so all of those things are important endeavors that that we're doing that we normally wouldn't do without this funding.

I'm just curious if there's a way to like evaluate that these funds go to the communities that need the most or if it's just based on your backlog of deferred maintenance.

We have a pretty good sense of putting them out in our underfunded communities and are you know so you know they're like any metrics to track that.

Like data that supports it.

I would say for our sustainability program one of the elements of it is to looking at equity so that most of the investments not all but most of the investments that we make are focused on those under resourced communities so they get more similarly with the facilities that we try to improve.

We do look particularly at those that serve some of the under resource community so library investments and those kinds of things so we do have just some overall principles about achieving equity which would direct a lot of the funding to try to address those with the greatest need.

Thank you.

I just had one last point I wanted to offer a big thank you to Mr. Davis he's a fellow Del Paso Heights native and I wanted to specifically call him out and admonish his civic advocacy community engagement.

He's also at times donated cheesecakes to volunteer events we were hosting so I just wanted to take this moment specifically thank him for his work in the community.

Also I wanted to mention tree canopy because I used to work at a secretary foundation and there's also the same overlap of disparity where under resource or more deserving communities are the ones that tend to lack the canopy that other more affluent communities have so I'm just curious how you how you like approach that process as well.

We have over a hundred thousand trees in the city of Sacramento that we we manage and maintain and there are neighborhoods that just weren't the infrastructure wasn't built to have trees within the right away and as we do our complete streets projects and revitalize.

You know the different neighborhoods we're including all of that stuff in our streets capes and adding tree canopy in those neighborhoods so we are very aware and are working towards you know putting trees out there but we have to change the infrastructure I mean some places don't even have sidewalks right and so as we start to rebuild we are installing them.

Thank you.

Commissioner McGee.

Thank you for all you shared you kind of answered my question while still make the statement. I was happy to hear you talk about the e-bikes in the library because I'm district one North and Thomas and I've seen that I've seen people utilizing those bikes.

I guess kind of what we're saying or for me you know that that empirical that data I'm an understanding the process because for me putting e-b charging stations and parks and libraries like that's a noble cause but the underserved population aren't going to be driving e-b cars anyhow so that is for me from equity and a community lens that is a cause that won't help the people that need the money.

For me that's not the best use if you want to impact the communities that are underserved underrepresented and so definitely like would like to hear and see more of the things that actually broadly touch all people in community right such as the e-bikes which I've seen people in North and Thomas going to the library and checking the e-bikes out so I can vouch that that's a check that that works because you're giving those that might not be able to ever afford an e-bike to have that opportunity.

To engage in that sustainability act of you know using the e-bike so you know just again you know always keeping that community equity lens at the forefront and using data to inform as opposed to saying well this is a good deed and this is how we're doling it out if you know that makes sense.

Thank you.

Okay thank you Commissioner Gores.

Thank you, Vice Chair. Thank you Mr. Director for your presentation. I really appreciate it. I just have two quick questions and I was trying to tell the assistant director not to go trying to signal to I know maybe getting steps in and stuff I don't know but my question is so I see when I look at the dashboard there's two sections for sustainability sustainability program for

four five hundred that for three hundred thousand and then there's climate action and sustainability for five hundred sixty two thousand what's the difference why isn't that combined into one.

That the four hundred and fifty one thousand is is the step it's just a budgeting thing that's the staffing and then the three hundred thousand is funding we get annually that helps to provide we can use it for programs or we can use it to leverage grants as

like a local match for grants but the other part is just pays for the actual staff that we have that do all the work.

Great thank you and my last question is as commissioners as we're out in the community sometimes I get asked questions when I'm at community events and stuff and I can proceed one question and I'm going to ask me is what's an example of a city facility

we investment program can you give me one example from last year.

Yeah I think it's something there's a lot of them I would say putting a repairing like an age back system at one of the libraries something like that.

Sounds good sorry they mean to put you on the spot thank you.

Okay thank you very much thank you for your presentation and spending time with us and answering all the questions.

Thank you.

Okay so our next speaker will be utilities.

Thank you.

Good evening commissioners.

I'm seeing the presentation on the front screen but not there you go.

All right my name is Pravani Vandya I am the director of utilities I'm going to talk to you today about measure you and the Sacramento utility rate assistance program.

So the Department of Utilities provides drinking water storm water and wastewater services to the resident residents and businesses in Sacramento.

We directly build our customers for these utility services.

For the Department of Public Works they provide solid waste services including recycling and organic waste as well as leaf pickup services that are bold through the utilities bullying that we provide.

The Department of Utilities is enterprise funded that means that our rate payers fund our workings and we do not get money from the general fund.

Prop to 18 prohibits the use of rate payer funding for other purposes.

What this means is that we cannot fund through through the rate dollars that we receive from our rate payers.

For sewer is the only deal you program that is funded by non enterprise funds and measure you in the sentence.

Measure you funding for the Sacramento utility rate assistance program is about $5.4 million.

Eligible customers can save money on water sewer drainage and garbage bowls depending on the services they receive.

To be eligible for the for this assistance you must pay a city bull for utility services.

You must live at the property and you must meet income requirements or participate in the smud rate assistance program.

We have roughly $8,900 accounts total.

It saves our customers on average about $50 per month and depending on services city of Sacramento utilities can cost an average of $190 per month.

These are our sewer customers by location.

So we've represented a district wide through the city.

We have a heat map that we've worked with our GIS team to develop.

And that is the total number of accounts by district as indicated with district eight having the highest number at 1865 accounts.

This graphic represents the number of new sewer accounts that have been added each calendar year and you'll see that 2024 has been the largest number so far.

This shows us our sewer costs annually.

And so this last year 2024 we were at $5.4 million for that fiscal year.

That ends the presentation on sewer and I'm available for any questions that you might have.

Do we have any public comment?

Vice Chair, we took public comments after the last one.

We didn't receive separate.

Okay, do we have Commissioner Rosa?

I was just curious if you have like an average amount or average rate of assistance per person.

So that average is $50. So the reduction of their bull would be on average $50.

So it's an average across the board for all for everyone that's on the program.

So per month?

Yes.

Thank you.

Commissioner Gores.

Thank you, Madam Vice Chair.

Thank you, Director, for your presentation.

I'm going to ask you a question.

Is there a concern for the Nasserah customer signs up for the program?

Is that, do they have to reapply every year or is it ongoing?

Like how does that work?

No.

So we ask that they review their information and if there are updates to information that they let us know.

We get downloads of the smud information.

So if new people sign up with smud, then we get that information directly and we'd reach out to those customers.

But no, we ask that people keep us up to date with information.

And annually we send out reminders to remind people that you're part of this program.

You need to ensure that your information remains the same because if it changes, then we need to re-evaluate them on the program.

So that's how we try to ensure that we're keeping up to date with changes in information, changes in eligibility essentially.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I really like this program.

It's very valuable and it was very helpful to see you break it down by district.

I think you can kind of see sometimes the questions we're asking.

I want to know where the money is going and clearly you're breaking it down really.

I like that.

And I think that you might say $50 a month.

Well, how much does that really help someone?

It does help a lot.

I mean, it makes a difference of either medication food, gas.

So I'm just very supportive of this program.

I have a question.

So Smud alert you to new families that are eligible under their program and then you reach out to them.

So do you think I know it's obvious that huge increase in 2024 because of the economic.

But do you, the economic situation that we find ourselves in?

Do you also feel it has the outreach improved or more people are becoming aware of it?

That's difficult.

Because that's a big jump.

It's difficult to say from the time that the inception of the program, from the first implementation, the first year of implementation,

this is how we implemented it with so getting those reports from Smud, making sure we're looking at those.

And then doing the annual updates through our bullying to notify people that they need to update the information.

So I can't say that the 2024 increase is because of a change in communicating out that information or the need to provide that information.

It's challenging to draw conclusion.

But in terms of the program and how we communicated, we haven't changed that.

So I can't say that's the reason for that 2024 increase.

From what we've seen, it is just the need of the community that's gone up.

And I don't know if Smud's done something on this side, right, to go back to the people that are in their program to look at eligibility criteria and add more people.

We're not aware that Smud did that in 2024.

So no, I don't have a specific reason as to why the increase.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much.

No further question.

Oh, she.

I just realized.

I wanted to ask you kind of the same question how you think about the measure you funds in your budget.

Is it that there be fewer people in it or this program?

Was this program accepted because of measure you?

How do you think about measure you when you're planning for this program?

The program was added on to measure you.

The city provided this program prior through General Fund.

And then with the inception of measure you that money was taken from there.

The way the program set up right now, historically we have been able to add more people on to the program.

But there's no doubt that when you have limited income coming in to measure you, you can't keep adding on.

So if we have another year like 2024, you go up another million dollars or $500,000.

Because that's the biggest challenge for utilities is we cannot use any of our rate pay a money to fund things like this even though they make sense.

And so different people are looking at it.

We haven't yet and I can tell you in my experience that I've been with the city for 18 years.

We've been talking about this at the state and federal level almost as long as that.

So it tells you that this talk but not necessarily action towards it.

So I think measure you is great towards helping those disadvantaged communities, low income communities,

be able to forgive some of what they owe.

The challenges if measure you doesn't exist anymore, right?

How do you make up that money considering that our general fund is as challenged as it is?

So I personally appreciate the program and that we can do something towards our rate payers who are challenged in those ways.

I know that it's part of the larger discussion on finding money for so many things that we think are important for various communities that are challenged, income wise, disadvantaged.

So I wish I could do more on the rate, pay a funding site but unfortunately the laws in California prevent that.

And I think it's commissions like you and things like measure you where we collect a little more money to go to specific things that helps.

But yeah, unfortunately I don't have I don't have the perfect solution.

Great. Thank you. That was helpful.

Hey, Commissioner George.

Hi, thanks for that information.

I'm looking at the application right now.

I'm not sure how up to date this is because it's fiscal year 2018 but it's the one I could find.

And it looks like essentially we have people filling out their wages, their child support, a lot of information disability.

And then there's an income eligibility requirement after you do that massive calculation.

We're not massive but do that calculation.

I'm curious as it seems like it's kind of like two things with this.

One is it seems like there might be a lot of people out there that are eligible for this benefit but aren't receiving it.

And we could maybe even find them based off of like tax records and like let them know hey this is a benefit that's available to you.

I'm assuming we don't do this as of now but I'm just curious to get your thoughts on that.

So through the bulls that the city puts out to our ratepayers we do communicate the program.

So everybody who's a rate payer would receive that information now.

I will say that not everybody reads their bull very closely so obviously that's at play as well.

So we are reaching out to everyone who is a rate payer and potentially people who are challenged financially challenged.

So it seems like the reach out is happening basically by just blast rather than which is fine.

I'm just saying that's the way we kind of do.

We send it to everyone and who...

So we do that so through the bullying process but what we also do is

utilities goes out to various community events for various reasons that will communicate conservation.

Amongst various other things that we do we will include communication about the program and help people understand what's available.

Point them to the website.

So we try to communicate as much as we can in other forums.

We have a presence.

Utilities has a presence on social media as well from time to time.

We put blasts out and we will put a blast out every now and then a bought sewer.

So that if we're missing people through those other means we're trying to engage and capture them in other ways.

Makes sense.

Yeah. One thing I also notice is that it's sort of like a step function of whether like you're in or you're out.

Or there's no step function I should say.

It's either you are in or you're out.

So if you make a dollar more than that cap for that kid or that family,

you're in person's and household to quote it's you're just you're cut off.

Is there not a way to make this maybe a little bit more like oh I made like one extra dollar this year and now I get I lose $500 basically or.

And I think that's up to city council to decide if they want to modify the program but the way the programs implemented right now.

Yes it's an absolute criteria.

And then I guess last question is I know it's like all the funding this does not fund FTEs or full time employees for this through a measure you.

So that's coming from I assume the ratepayers is or is how is that staffed.

So the forgiveness of rates for low income ratepayers that money goes towards the rates that the department would get.

So it goes into the pool of money so it's used to do everything that we do which would include FTEs.

Okay got it makes sense so it does include FTEs in this like $5 million measure you.

Yes because you're paying for all of the services that utility provides whatever services that homeowner is receiving.

That's where the money is going to so it would include everything associated infrastructure FTEs anything that we need to provide those services.

Makes sense. Alright appreciate it. Thank you.

Good job.

Thank you so much for your presentation.

I was just curious you were able to show the breakdown there of the number of accounts that you have per district and then that huge increase that we saw in 2024.

Do you know which districts had the highest number of increase or can you see how many how the accounts changed per district in 2024 with those increases.

Yeah we can go back and look at that data I don't have the answers with me but we can go back and look at the data because we collect the data through each year.

And we can we can look at it by district so I'll connect with the GIS folks because they put some heat maps together and I think it does represent the historical data as well so I'll look at that.

Thank you yeah that'd be really interesting because we'd be able to track kind of there that eligibility and the differences that we would see during that time frame across the community.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I'm just curious if you have any insight or like metrics that might illuminate like how many people might be eligible for this program that are not participating or may just not know about it.

And unfortunately not because it's not information that we receive from ratepayers.

I imagine there must be general data for Sacramento in terms of you know incomes what the various bands represent but I know I don't I don't have that information specifically for our ratepayers.

Thank you I think that's all of our questions thank you very much thank you for coming here.

Okay we have our next presentation.

Yipsey.

Oh here she is.

This is it. This is she's yes she's the last one.

Oh yeah she's got a whole team here.

We wanted to make an entrance.

Yes you did.

Yes.

Good evening.

My name is Jackie Beach. I'm the director of the youth parks and community Richmond department.

Often referred to as Yipsey.

I'm also joined by members of our executive team tonight will be sharing more information about our department's role in serving the Sacramento community.

Through our parks and recreation system including many of our core services that are funded by measure you.

And this will include introductions of each of our areas of operation.

And some of our department metrics and data from the last year.

So it's Yipsey's mission to empower our youth strengthen neighborhoods and provide life enriching programs for a beautiful livable community.

We value innovation collaboration safety equity inclusion and more.

Our department operates through multiple units that support goals of creating pathways for youth development, quality parkland recreation facilities, lifelong recreation and learning and community livability and strong neighborhoods.

And we will always strive for excellence to service our Sacramento community.

We will create a $67 million budget of which $46 million is funded by measure you.

This includes 709 FTE that equates to over 1500 individual employees.

And that includes full time and part time staff.

Our areas of operation are shown here and these servicential functions and deliver core services that address major quality of life issues across the city that include youth development.

Access to safe spaces for youth and families and are more vulnerable populations climate and sustainability and much more.

First we have our administration and fiscal services team and they directly support Yipsey's budget and fiscal services, human resources procurement.

Administrative operations and lease management that also includes our citywide golf course operations.

This team also supports various commissions including our parks and community enrichment commission and land memorial commission and gifts to share.

The community administration team also manages over $34 million in grant funding to support several grant funded programs and projects.

These project support priorities of infrastructure investment in our parks and facilities, climate and sustainability efforts and of course investment in our youth through community based programs and services.

Our parks safety division is comprised of 15 budgeted park safety staff. We currently have three vacancies.

This team is responsible for the public safety service and preservation of all 237 parks, bike trails, aquatic facilities, community centers and open space.

Park rangers operate from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. 365 days per year with on average two to three rangers on shift at one time.

We have a budget for about $4,000 for service annually. The park safety team also plays a critical role in the city's incident management team and rapid response efforts to address the impacts of homelessness in our parks.

They responded to over 3,000 rapid calls last year in 2024. They are also tasked with crime prevention through environmental design or septid, especially event support and citywide park permit distribution.

Our park planning and development services team includes 14 full time employees and they are funded through capital improvement projects that are comprised of measure you grant and PIF and Quimby funds.

This team delivers millions of dollars in park projects and infrastructure investment that also directly support access to safe space to all of our parks and facilities.

In our advanced planning team, they spent the last five years developing the parks plan 2040 that was adopted in 2024. This plan outlines strategies for the future parks, recreation and Sacramento.

Currently the park development team has over 66 active projects valued at $30 million and they completed $24 million in deferred maintenance projects since 2020.

In addition to deferred maintenance and development projects, the staff also support several special projects citywide.

Some examples of some currently funded projects across several districts within the city and district one, we have West Shore Park, development, North Natomas Regional Park field lighting, Meadows Park phase three improvements in district two, we have rent free field renovations, the Mama Mark splash pad that was just recently completed.

We have a park rest room replacement and softball complex lighting at Sacramento softball complex in district three of fellman hawk park North gate rest room replacement and open community garden.

In district four, the wind park building, which is currently funded the crate building, Crocker park renovations.

This is a setters landing skate park renovations and near park renovations in district five, we have airport little league renovations, McClusch, you both build renovations and the twerly disc golf course.

In district six and baseball field renovations in district seven, Garcia been soccer renovations and land park dog park design.

In district eight, Steve Jones playground, Mark Hopkins playground and the 24th street fitness equipment. Those are just an examples of recently or have started currently funded park planning projects.

Differed maintenance has been a discussion of the evening. We've our team has been working diligently to address deferred maintenance burden in our parks facilities and pools.

This includes safety and accessibility issues such as park rest room replacements, major irrigation renovations, sports court resurfacing projects and field and playground replacements.

Differed maintenance projects are funded using a combination of grant funds and also a reallocation of measure you funds remaining at the end of each fiscal year.

In fiscal year 24, 70% of the deferred maintenance projects completed were supported by our department's measure you carry over savings from the prior fiscal year 23.

So while funding for deferred maintenance is significantly limited, we are striving to focus on projects that will prioritize the health and safety of our community will also improve the quality of life for youth and families.

Some recently completed deferred maintenance projects include the Hagenwood Kings Court renovation, Nino's Park basketball soccer field and site furnishings, an O'Neill Park rest room replacement, the Charlie Park playground replacement, Camila Park irrigation improvements and Garcia been parking lot resurfacing.

Our park maintenance division is supported by 125 dedicated full time employees and they are responsible for the daily care maintenance of our 237 parks developed, developed parks excuse me community gardens, bike trails, parkways, dog parks, Sacramento's historic city cemetery and the open spaces that span over 4300 acres and are used daily by youth and family citywide.

Last year this division supported over 5,000 organized youth and adult sporting events, 475 permitted park events and supported 18,000 volunteer hours across city parks.

The division is also tasked with responding to over 3,000 311 requests annually for additional services of matter or special concern including safety environmental sustainability, litter removal and vandalism across our city parks.

Within our developed parkland, the division focuses its efforts on the following core services that are directly supported by measure you.

That includes weekly mowing, daily inspection, cleaning and waste pickup, basic sports field preparation and maintenance on a seasonal basis, irrigation inspection and repairs is needed, seasonal weed abatement and fire fuel modification, playground infill and safety material, rotational res needed,

routine upurnal shrubs, park beautification and non-core landscaping services are performed as needed or as funding becomes available and of course on an overtime basis if necessary.

You also operate 15 community center citywide where we provide primarily free programming and access to safe space for over 20,000 visits by youth and teens.

This is through in person after school programs and summer camps preschool programs and teen events where we saw a 39% increase in participation over the last year.

Community centers also provide essential programs and services for our older adult population where participation and offerings have increased significantly including 34,000 visits in the past year.

Also in fiscal year 2024 we saw over 31 visits to our wellness rooms at community center citywide which are essentially gyms within our community centers.

In addition to direct program delivery we work very closely with youth serving nonprofits and many community partners that utilize our community centers for programs and services.

We waved over $220,000 in rental fees last year through the council approved fee and fee waiver and fee reduction program.

Here you'll see a significant increase in program visits across community centers from 2023 to 2024.

We saw a 74% increase in older adult visits citywide and also an increase in youth and teen programs.

Last year over 13,000 meals were distributed to older adults through our meals on wheels program and over 2400 youth were served in programs where they were also provided free lunch or supper.

Our reservations office issued nearly 3,000 park permits and 700 athletic field allocations to parks across the city.

As demonstrated our community center support several core services and city priorities that include safety providing access to safe spaces for youth and free childcare programs for working families.

Daily meals for our youth and older adults and access to wellness and technology resources.

Community centers also support emergency response efforts and activation serving extreme weather and hazardous air quality events.

Our aquatic section operates 17 pools citywide including the regional aquatic complex with over 100,000 visits to recreation spend each season.

Other programs include our swim lesson program water safety classes swim team junior lifeguard and lifeguarding fitness classes and special events.

These programs support safety for people of all ages by providing access to supervised swimming environments and drowning prevention through water safety education and swim lesson programs.

You have to use aquatic program area you see aquatic program is recognized by the American Red Cross as one of the state's top training providers.

We certified over 267 lifeguards in the past year and in 2024 we awarded over $62,000 in scholarships and reimbursements to youth across Sacramento.

This included free swim lessons and also lifeguard training scholarships who then went on to the employed with our aquatic section.

Here you'll see our 17 aquatic facilities where you have see offers a safe swimming environment opportunity to Sacramento residents throughout the region seven days a week during the summer months and 10 months out of the year at the North and Thomas Aquatics Complex supporting core services of safe and affordable swimming environment water safety education and drowning prevention, which is especially of great importance in a city surrounded by rivers and lakes.

Also youth employment as I mentioned with the majority of our aquatic staff being between the age of 15 and 24 years old.

Here's a quick snapshot of participation in recreation swim by pool that in that in addition to visits from community youth teens and adults.

It also includes some of our department youth programs schools and other organized community groups that we work closely with.

You'll see here that met of you Clooney and the North of Thomas Community North of Thomas Aquatics Complex saw the largest number participants in 2024.

We have these three hubs located to equitably support service in the south central and north areas of the city.

In fiscal year 24 we established the youth development administration team within Yipsey to better align resources in the city's ability to support youth initiatives and opportunities and also relationships with our youth serving organizations and many of our community care holders.

To best serve Sacramento young people this team is responsible for the implementation of the council adopted city wide youth development plan including management of grants that support youth development services and opportunities.

This team is also responsible for the implementation of the Sacramento Children's Fund or measure L as you're probably aware where they are currently working to identify a panel to review applications where we will be making recommendations for funding to city council in the coming months.

From fiscal year 24 to date the youth development administration team supported over $14 million in grant programs and initiatives with over 80% of those funded by measure you.

Some of these grants include Sacktown Youth Nights, the organizational resiliency fund, both programs that support community based organizations in addressing priorities of youth safety, violence prevention and economic development and many of our under resourced communities.

Here we have our civic engagement team that includes four full time staff and support for the Sacramento Youth Commission and the summer at City Hall programs.

The youth commission strives to advance the quality of life for Sacramento youth and does so with the guidance training and support provided by the adult allies within the civic engagement unit.

Summer at City Hall serves 68 high school students citywide last year engaging them in education around local government structure and youth development.

Both of these programs support services and priorities of youth safety, diversity, equity and inclusion and workforce development.

Yipses expanded learning unit provides after school programs for over 4,000 youth across the city and four different school districts and at 24 elementary and middle school campuses.

The fourth hour program is our fee based year round license child care program serves over 2,000 youth at 18 school locations providing critical support for working families.

Our department also works very closely with child action and school districts to remove barriers for access to quality child care within our programs.

Start is supported by the ACE's grant fund and measure you serving over 2,000 youth annually and free after school programs on school campuses.

This also includes daily hot meals for all of our participants.

The summer or a so summer camp program provides low cost summer programming to keep you engaged during out of school time. Very popular program that you see offers.

And you see youth workforce development unit provides work based learning program and paid work experiences for youth ages 10 to 18 years old.

Creating opportunities to gain skills that lead to successful and employable adults. Over 1100 young people participate in programs like young leaders of tomorrow, primetime team, WIOA, junior decade and the new North Nautomas workforce development program.

And of course our landscape and learning program providing over 1.1 million dollars in direct investments into the hands of young people through salaries and stipends.

Next we have our older adult services section that operates the heart senior center to provide opportunities for help and wellness, social connections and resources for adults ages 50 and older.

Over 3,000 older adults participate in programs each month including daily meals and weekly meal distribution as well as access to safe space and social services and referrals.

The older adult services team also supports more than 80 families and caregivers through triple R. That's our low cost license adult day program for older adults with dementia at three different locations across the city.

And here we have additional community enrichment programs that support a variety of core services for youth and families of all ages and abilities.

Our youth adult sports programs focus on fitness and creating social connections through a variety of sports programs and at our skate parks.

Over 5,000 youth and adults participate each year in sports leagues such as junior giants NFL flag football junior NBA and programs at the Sacramento softball complex.

Many of the youth programs are free or low cost for youth ages 5 to 24.

And we have our access leisure program that provides accessible programs and opportunities for youth teens and adults with disabilities including adaptive sports and social programs outdoor recreation and summer camps.

Access leisure served over 1,600 participants in fiscal year 24 and accommodation requests for inclusion services in the up to activities increased by 40% over the last year.

Our department also operates Camp Sacramento in elder on national forest that supports mental and physical wellness throughout to a recreation nature and environmental education.

In the permitting an event section is responsible for permitting city parks and the public right away for special events more than 600 permits were issued in fiscal year 24 totaling over 1300 events.

This section also issues the neighborhood block parties block party permits and provides events support services for council office events.

Responsible for event logistics including securing park reservations coordinating park dangers maintenance and equipment needs.

Due to the influx especially events over the years and as part of the fiscal year 25 budget the city added a division in the convention and cultural services department to help streamline entertainment related permits.

So you see will continue to focus its efforts on special events that are hosted in and around parks and very collaboratively with this team.

Now that we've heard about many of the programs and services that you see provides our marketing team put together a quick real of just some of the highlights from the last year that I'd like to share with you.

All right.

All right. And with that I am joined by members of our leadership team. We are happy to answer any question.

Thank you very much. Very impressive. You do a lot of work for the city of Sacramento for our community and our youth and I appreciate all of the work.

And when you think of all that you're doing it is impressive with the number of staff that you have to do all that work.

So thank you for your presentation and I appreciate you breaking down where measure you is is being utilized.

there are more well-known the more popular might get more more or more of the measure you funds than others.

And so it's been hard trying to figure out where the measure you fund are going for for specific programs and areas.

Sure. So we did provide a breakdown of pools by district. Yeah.

We have similar maps for our community centers and we have a community center in nearly every district. We have pools in nearly every district and we really service where we see the most under resource communities and the most significant demand.

Majority of our programs are either free or extremely low cost and we also offer a scholarship program that allows that you know additionally removes barriers for youth or families that can demonstrate a financial need.

But our goal is to really reach those neighborhoods or communities that aren't already receiving those services or don't currently have those being offered at a community center.

We offer a lot of the same programs across our community centers and parks but generally each community center is a little bit different right and we try to be responsive to whatever the community's needs are based on the feedback we're hearing from them.

We have a lot of families and youth that just visit our community centers we engage with them pretty regularly and try to respond to the demand and based on what we're seeing from our community.

Thank you.

Hey Commissioner McGee.

I wanted to say thank you for the breath depth and transparency.

Taking off my commissioner hat I am a resident of West Shore. So thank you for West Shore Park.

I am in transparency I also sit on the HLA board for West Shore and so as we are talking with our community members a lot of them have been asking how I believe it's under your purview you guys decide what parks get restroom facilities versus others.

I don't know if that's under your watch if you can maybe this inform me so I could take it back because that was really a hot button discussion topic with West Shore Park getting ready to open.

So is that something that you can kind of just give me something to tell them.

I will spare you all and invite my park planning development services manager please to share more about that process.

Good evening my name is Jason Weissman I'm the park planning and development manager so West Shore Park I mean typically our in our parks plan in 2040.

We are trying to steer away from restrooms in neighborhood parks those are intended to serve the actual neighborhood within a half mile radius.

If we put a restroom at every park I mean they're one of our biggest maintenance issues that we have an ongoing thing so we try to focus our restrooms more on community parks or things where there's sports events or specialized parks where we have a lot of activity.

But we don't have the funds to construct a restroom at every park and and the maintain them also so right now we're focusing on community parks I know blackbird park is near there and that there's a restroom plan for that park we are we're in design for.

I'm excited because I literally step out my door and I'm at West Shore I'm blackbird park sorry so yes thank you for that and then just to finish my comment.

I can truly say for all that you do again like as a community member not a commissioner thank you.

My daughter goes to Passover day she went to a ranch we utilized for our.

Between North Atomas and South Atomas especially at South Atomas Community Center I really when I go in there I see the impact of the services I see the elderly out I see the programming I see all the things that you really highlighted.

And my heart is 10 times bigger because I truly when I walk through my community I actually can see the measure you impact so to your team fantastic job I could really really go on and on the summer camps we had family family member that was you know going through in their child was able to use the free camps for the summer so again like literally talk about life changing and really impact for work I can co sign.

I see you guys in the community being what the community needs and my heart is 10 times bigger so really really sincerely as a community member thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Commissioner first well.

So I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and do a presentation and I'll you do the whole team.

My question is what can you explain the relationship kind of going forward as far as youth programming in terms of what's the vision for what's funded by measure you versus measure L.

I can say given the city's structural budget deficit and the budget challenge the experience challenges we're currently experiencing for fiscal year 25 that we anticipate experiencing for fiscal year 26.

So we don't have the capacity or resources to really expand any of the current offerings that we have so that we're hopeful through the process of measure L if the community desires you know and enhance any of those programs then we would need to seek out some additional resources to do so.

So potentially measure L could backfill measure you in a budget deficit so that to sort of maintain the current programs or.

No so it can't supplant it's part of the measure language measure L cannot supplant the city's current baseline investment and youth expenditures.

So as long as the city is meeting that baseline number and the programs or services or projects qualify as primarily youth serving then we have that flexibility within measure L funds at the discretion of city council.

Thank you commissioner chorus.

Thank you my advice chair thank you director for the presentation what a great department it's like what can we say right they do so so much good stuff so I have a couple questions number one I've seen as I've gone to the city some of the branding paid by measure you but then it kind of stopped right so I hope we can do it again so people can actually see that we're actually trying to do things good and

community so I really hope that we can see that again and also what determines the difference between our park and a community park.

Is there a difference.

I mean there's different criteria within the parks plan how it spells out so I mean a neighborhood park is intended to serve a half mile radius so they're typically smaller in size from one to three acres or the community parks are typically a lot larger there anywhere from five to you know usually that five to 15 acres they usually have more sports and fields and stuff so there's little more detail in the parks plan on how those are actually called out on there's you know there's specialty parks and all kinds of stuff in there as well.

Thank you and my last question is so I just graduated from the city management academy as you know and you talked about camps Sacramento right and it looks like it's a very popular program as far as you know renting a cabin and going but it's a big way and it's right and very limited with cabins.

It's really like surprising to me because it's so popular but it's one of the lowest things on your on your budget so any you know any rooms for expansion maybe in the future being that so popular.

Yeah I think the challenge with camp Sacramento really unique thing about camp Sacramento but also the challenges that's 100 years old people like to go because that's 100 years old but also significantly aging infrastructure and so we lease the land for the national forest service and it's.

We're limited on the amount of space that we have we're continually trying to identify funding to make some additional investments up there our team worked really hard this last year to also make it more accessible families have been going for generations and generations and generations and actually with the participation of your sister commission the parks commission.

We engage with a couple of our parks commissioners and piloted some other opportunities to be able to get more people up at camp Sacramento running some day opportunities so well we may not have the flexibility for expanding overnight opportunities you know inviting people up for the day to experience camp that's something that we're continuing to explore and trying to expand those offerings as we're able to ultimately I think we'd love to make those investments at camp Sacramento and be able to expand it but our priorities right now are really on the existence of the community.

We're going to have to do that on the existing investments or infrastructure within this city our community centers our pools that are more accessible to the people that are here in Sacramento.

Thank you.

Thank you Commissioner Johnson.

Yes thank you all again for everything you do we are all community members here and I will say I look at parks very differently before toddler and after toddler and I'm a resident of Tile Park and I've spent an

amount of time at that park now and all the other parks so I so appreciate the parks department and I also think it's kind of core of what measure you was sold on to the to the voters as well a lot of the services and if I'm doing the math correctly you're saying 46 of a 67 million dollar budget is roughly 69% if you take leaving only 21 million without but I don't think that it would be I think be a little disingenuous to say without measure you you would only have a 21 million dollar budget I don't know if this is the right question I guess it's just a math that I could do in the future.

I think the right question is do you know if you see this budget has expanded significantly pre or post measure you compared to pre measure you because you know this might be a question for city council but like just allocating and saying you get 47 46 million dollars isn't necessarily mean that your budget grew significantly right because you can say that we got it from the general fund before.

Is that a question you can answer do you know what it was compared post and pre measure you.

I don't know exactly what it was pre measure you I mean we have seen some incremental growth you know over the years but we are predominantly funded by measure you that other you know 20 plus million dollars it's our Piff and Quimbee funds it's our fourth hour program that's an enterprise fee based program right that relies on revenues to ensure that program continues operating it's our special district funding.

Landscapes and lighting so a lot of that additional funding just covers the kind of above and beyond or supplemental maintenance that might see in a park some of its grant funding like our Aces grant fund that supports our start program but predominantly it it allows us to keep our centers open it keeps our our pools you know clear and clean our practice

save as possible. We've seen growth in the budget but we look at measure you sort of interchangeably with general fund because it is predominantly how we are operating at this point yeah I'd be happy to look at symmetric seven report back yeah just because it's helpful to see because I know measure you that's part of our discussion is it is coming

to a certain degree it's so slicing it away is on it may be an impossible task right but being able to advocate and say this is the tangible benefit that measure you's providing within without any information or day that we can get on that would be very helpful

absolutely happy to share. Thank you commissioner George. Is it true that the I mean budget is pretty complicated sometimes but it looks like like 21 million is coming from other services supplies

that revenue that's generated through the services you provide whether it be like the community centers of people paying to enter what how does you mean that the delta between the 46 and

so it's our enterprise fund we have fourth hour which I believe is in the tune of 5.3 million dollars is our fourth hour program we receive 5.7 general general fund dollars

we have several community facilities districts and several special districts where we get additional funding for park improvements or enhancements and maintenance

primarily and then again the start program so that majority of that difference is made up through those all other alternative funding sources.

Gotcha one thing I'm very curious about is you know as as you mentioned yourself where you are in a pretty bad structural deficit and so money is extremely tight

and you know a lot of the services that you provide which obviously we've all been very appreciative of myself included

are at risk right there seriously at risk and so one thing I'm sort of wondering is as you're looking at this almost certainly things are going to be kind of we don't want that

so the only option here would be like an increase in efficiency right do you have goals going to next year to sort of address those concerns or

sure it's a great question I mean it structural deficit or not it continues to be a challenge for us and something that we're always trying to be really creative and strategic as we're approaching each budget year but especially

challenge with that now given our budget circumstances you know many of the programs that we offer are are free or extremely low cost one of our strategies has been

nominal fee either establishing nominal fees for participation in some of our programs or slightly increasing fees I mean the cost of us to do business continues to increase

but our way of mitigating any any barriers for the community are to are we established the youth scholarship program fund that we're very fortunate to have our former mayor Steinberg

making additional budget direction during the last fiscal year to enhance the scholarship program our team this last September I have really have to

applaud the work that they've done and developing the scholarship program to focus on family youth and families that have more

financial need to allow them to be able to continue to participate in these programs even when there is a nominal fee and another example not just for

our youth scholarship program but for our older adults programs which have also been offered very low cost or free of charge we offer special events for for older adults that have

typically even free we started implementing a five to ten dollar fee we have not seen a decrease in participation for the value of what the these individuals are getting out of these events it's it's

worth it for them but we continue to offer opportunities for scholarships and fee assistance to remove some of those barriers so I'm really trying to be creative and make sure that we're balancing what the

communities needs are and able to at least continue like you said efficiencies really working with a lot of our community partners making sure we're working

across other departments to offer our programs and services really tapping into the existing resources we have we went to you saw

their pools like hub models of pool service where we keep all of our neighborhood pools open but we really focus a lot of those core services in different geographical areas of the city where we're seeing higher levels of

attendance but making sure that anywhere in the city a family would have access to a swimming pool and within close proximity that makes sense I have one last question I kind of throw you I don't expect an

answer necessarily but I'm curious if you have it basically sort of like a again very focused on budget and efficiency is like cost per person hour of recreation per type right so say like people are using a pool what's the cost per person hour versus a part per person hour versus

that is absolutely something that we are really focusing on right now and I will say especially as we are incomes measure L right we every year are we have to be able to

demonstrate the impacts or primary youth service of our programs on and how that ties into measure L we have an expectation or duty to fulfill that that baseline

youth investment at least as it pertains to youth every program is a little bit different right we have our community centers are open it's also a little bit difficult to track those metrics it's an open space we activate I wouldn't necessarily say we activate when you have these heat waves our community

centers are open anyone from the public can come in charge their phone gets and rest from the heat and and go on so we're continuously trying to find ways to identify what that data is and how to

catch those metrics we've come a long way in the last handful of years and we have a fantastic team that's working on you know performance metrics and evaluation data especially when it comes to many of these grant funds and

opportunities that we're having to really make sure that we're tracking appropriately so I look forward to coming back to council until all of our

commissions with a little bit more refined data around exactly what you just outlined awesome would love to see it yeah thanks

part of my interruption the time is 726 we do need to make a motion to extend the meeting past two hours is there a motion so moved

and a second second

yes commissioner gerosky yes commissioner pass call yes commissioner fried Lucas is commissioner Rosa yes and vice chair solos yes thank you the motion passes

thank you commissioner rosa I just want to commend the work you all are doing having grown up across the street from mom and

marks park it fills me with a lot of pride to see that space functional and the work that's been done there over the past few

years I also was part of the start program as a kid in elementary school so it also fills me with a lot of joy and

excitement to see the amazing work you're doing also having worked a lot in urban agriculture and building

establishing and designing community gardens I'm curious if there's any districts in the city that don't

have any city sponsored community gardens I'll invite Sean you know it's worth our park maintenance manager I'm

give everyone a turn come on up Sean thank you Sean else worth park maintenance manager so to answer your

question there is a I guess a hole in the community guard program that does affect district two I know

we've been looking at many opportunities that are again a funding dependent but looking at many

opportunities to focus something into into district two so it's a continual focus I know of the

development team and then of course for the park maintenance team who cares for the community gardens yes it's a

huge focus for us we understand that disparity and we make every effort to correct it so awesome thank you

having grown up in Del Paso Heights which is considered a food desert is a big reason why I focus so much on

food sovereignty and sustainability as part of like community initiatives so thank you for I think we've

actually jatted yes I believe so yes bringing more community gardens to Del Paso Heights yes so I do

recognize the name and wonderful to meet you in person so likewise we're all there for you together

thank you thank you I think that's I just want to I want to thank you again for your presentation and all

that you do and we just recently had a community garden established over by Strauss School off of

Nino's Park it was an abandoned community park and you department revitalized it and now there's a

waiting list to use those plots and it's right next to his school so so we're excited and then I'm

just going to put a plug in because it's oh it's a sore issue for us in our community is Garden

Land Park the bathroom I really appreciate it seeing the before and after the bathroom that's the

kind of transformation that's needed at Garden Land Park restroom but I know that the Ford maintenance

is a big issue and the challenge for all of you but I'm just putting that out there and thank you

again for all that you do and your presentation and having your whole team here waiting with us

and answering our questions they are they are a wonderful team yes thank you okay yes thank you

okay so moving along and this this will be the measure you focus groups and let me so I'm going to

speak on this issue and I welcome we we have an ad hoc a focus group ad hoc that commissioner George

Joffing and commissioner McGee so you cannot chime in but I'll give you a little history of what

this is a few years ago the community survey every every two years they visit every two years

yeah every two years they send out a community survey and a few years ago we added questions to

the community survey that pertain to measure you funding how they would like measure you to be

funded but the important piece for us well that was important but equally important was we asked

a question is if they would want to participate or be contacted you know or participate in a focus

group on measure you funding we had over 500 responses that said yes and they gave their email

we've been working on this issue was what four years ago something like that three years ago

on this issue of following up we've been wanting to follow up with those individuals that gave

their email and indicated they wanted to give input fortunately the city council last year approved

little about 17,000 little less for us to do focus groups two in person one in the north area one

in the south area and then a virtual focus group with those same individuals that indicated which

ash has their emails that they wanted to participate and in the money is to cover

you know like 10 to 12 individuals in person focus groups the virtual provide refreshments

childcare and if needed transportation it's not a lot of money but it was a big win for us to have

the city council approve that funding so fast forward we we formed a ad hoc and we went out and

outreach to several community based organizations that had some experience doing focus groups

developing questions facilitating it and then being able to provide a result of those focus groups

so Stanford settlement and Julie wrote in director of Stanford settlement was the winning

bid and we we are have contracted with Stanford settlement to do both in person and virtual

we met which is the ad hoc the three of us and anybody I just want to it would be great if any of you

want to participate in the ad hoc committee for the focus groups we welcome that opportunity so we

met two we three weeks ago was right after Christmas and we discussed with Julie the locations which

ones going to be in Hagenwood and the other one the in-person Hagenwood Pennell Community Center

and then of course the virtual one Julie has since developed an email or a letter that will go out

to those that indicate that gave their emails and indicated they were interested and it would

just be a blanket email saying we apologize for the delay it's taken some time but if you're still

interested we're still interested in hearing from you just submitted that to us to review and then

ash had some good feedback which I think is it's worth mentioning saying because it's been so long

that maybe we just need to send out another survey for those same individuals and re-ass

some of the questions and get instead of using what the answers were from last time and who they

are it's just doing a new survey so and in addition to that and then I'll let Julie speak or anybody

else I was up here to me we came up with some potential questions to ask and now I I I should have

back like on Thursday submitted this to ash so that it could be published so it I did not do my

due diligence but so I'm just going to go over what we're going and then we can post this after the

fact correct no anyway I'll go over our intent for the focus group is we want to absolutely give a

history of measure you how how that funds have been allocated which thank you ash your dash

board that you provided already set to some for that and it's great and I think we can you just use

that we could do it in a poster and the role of the measure you advisory commission because I don't

I think well we all know the community is not aware of what actually the commission what our rules

are and then we have another in case any of you were missing something please add to that

that's just can be the opening in general information before we get started so questions is

like how familiar are you with measure you and its intended purpose so we'll document that

because we want to capture that community priorities the funding allocations what areas of

community investment do you believe should be prioritized and deprioritized with measure you funding

which you can see that that will be a lively discussion and then equity and inclusion going back

to some of the questions we've already asked and some of the things we're interested in how do you

think measure you funds can be used to address inequities within our communities

and then the perceived impact and I think that's kind of you've aligned with some of the questions

you were kind of asking is community benefits what positive changes have you noticed in the

community as a result of measure you funding accountability and transparency do you feel there's

enough transparency in how measure you funds are being allocated and used and how would you prefer

this information be disseminated and of course future directions the long term vision what are

your long term hopes for the impact of measure you in our community and how do you hope it would be

measured by the city are these specific metrics you would be interested in seeing are there

specific metrics that you would be interested in seeing that one will be hard for them to identify

but still the question needs to be asked and participation and engagement what are the best ways

for the city to involve residents in future decisions about measure you what would make you feel the

impact of measure you funds so those are the general questions that we want to ask and during the

focus groups so I know that I'm reading it to you and it's not and I apologize that you don't have

the opportunity to really look at it and and think about it but if you want to weigh in this would be

it would be great because we will be meeting with Julie again with the ad hoc because we want to

provide support for what she's doing in guidance so is there any Julie have any did I leave anything out

commissioner George off commissioner McGee I just add a gas truly we can just like forward it to

everyone if we send it to you and then you can just forward it to everyone right sorry so this

might be a question for the clerk in the attorney so I think the question is a list of questions

was just orally discussed am I able to I guess send out that list after the meeting of quiet and I'm

like confusing this with supplemental material because originally vice chair chair saw I wanted to

present this as a document so now it's sort of a verbal list of questions is that appropriate

so what was going to happen with the list just to share it with the members after the meeting via email

so memorial memorialize the list that was just given out I think that would be fine it's not a

communication after since it is memorializing the same items but great

any questions yes commissioner corpus so right before the last meeting before the holidays I

thought I had said oh yeah I'll participate I never heard anything but the holidays came and

I went but being that you want to be on that yeah I was going to say being that I'm a district eight

resident and the panel center being one of the locations I would definitely would love to support any

of the efforts and I will also invite my fellow commissioner fried Lucas was also

that district eight if she would join me and help support so yes

hey commissioner passqual I just wanted to thank the vice chair for being so persistent

at this I mean it has been something I think I this is my second second or two second full year

I've been here two years and you've been talking about I mean we've been talking about this

since the very first meeting that I joined and so I don't think we would be this far if you hadn't

really demonstrated so much leadership and commitment and I think it's really important

that to put that priority on hearing from the community and so I just wanted to appreciate that

thank you for doing that and also just to ask you how can we be supportive I mean is it

is it showing up at the focus groups to just you know show support is it you know

I would say excuse myself put me to work or you know tell us what's useful at this point

yeah um so we did have that discussion about whether we wanted commissioners there or not and

I think we ended up it would be good to have maybe the commissioner from that district there but not

all of us there because that that could be very intimidating for individuals who feel like they

want to have a free discussion so I think that's that's what we landed where we landed correct

that is that's what I remember a screen upon at the same time it would be superb to have at

least one person from the commission there because you are the experts I'm as for you I'm learning

a lot quickly but worst case scenario somebody asked me a question that I have no idea and I study

hard for it so appreciate your support for that yes so that's how you can support us and I

I personally will be there for obvious reasons but I think having someone from from that district

there so that the community can identify you and you can identify yourself and

be a point of contact is really important

so any other thank you Julie for for your support and for moving this forward and I I apologize to

commissioner Gorgas you're right you did tell me you wanted to be on there but I will make sure

the next convening of the ad hoc that you will join us and be part of it no problem I will

accept your apology but you got to learn my name first is Gorgas Gorgas five years

I keep doing that yes okay oh yes um do we have any members of the public

thank you chair I have one speaker slip mr. Lambert Lambert Davis

first of all I would like to say if that's a good selection uh Stanford settlement

Stanford settlement goes back very far with my family my family has been here since 1946

I can't remember the lady's name but it was mother oh sister Jean and I remember her

many decades ago and she didn't just concentrate on uh I guess that would be district three

she she was all over the place just like julie is they don't just talk about where they're

located they actually branch out to where I want them to go which is district two

specifically deltasal heights you will hear something from me after this where grant high schools

football team is in the news all over california and it's not just the football team is the cheer

leaders and the drum line and I my family we went everywhere with them they had to go to

Stockton they won in the rain and they had to go to google I'm not google but mountain view

but they had a chance to go by google and google was uh born before they were so all their lives

that's all they've known is google so it was a treat for them thank god they didn't go in the building

because they had some work to do and they went and did it they won the northern california title

and then they had the city sent them way to orange county and they won that so it's going to be a lot

you're going to see the grant paces a lot on the news they were just on kcr a3 and I think

that uh measure you should find some money for these teenagers to go to the king's games to have

bankwish to do things you have money here you just a matter of how you're going to spend

thank you for your comments chair I have no more speakers on this item thank you

k city managers report

greetings uh commissioners ashrugani special projects manager in the city managers office

um i don't believe we have anything to update except for um i did emit this from my email i think

i gave you all heads up that your annual report went to the personal and public employees uh committee

last week of the city council um that was moved forward to the full city council and i will let you

know of that date um i don't know if if we know that at this point but when that does go to

city council i will let you know and so that is the only update for now thank you

kuna i want to thank you for your tutorial that was great thank you for doing that for

how how to read or access the dashboard and the data was very nice and i was clicking on there

so i appreciate you doing that will will you do that tutorial for the public

it's one of these things that you're never happy with it and you keep rerecording it but i think

yes eventually when um yes we we will make a version available great thank you okay now we're at

commissioner comments ideas and questions do we have um commissioner magee i just had a follow-up

question for you ashen regards to the dashboard looking fantastic like thank you very clear easy to

understand um did the dashboard go out to the council members of city council have they had a

chance to review comment any feedback in regards to that it actually just went out today um no feedback

received as of yet um we did encourage them to share with their constituents so um i will say it's

been we didn't start with the intent of uh really bringing a lot of attention to it i think

and in fact if if you're aware we had the previous dashboard that um we didn't even link to

from the public website we just sent out a link to you also it's been kind of a slow roll in terms

of like actually getting it going but um i think we are exploring some options to bring some more

publicity to it and so um yes the the council members do have a copy as of today thank you for that

and i'd love to kind of see if you know we become the kind of the four runners right for all other

commissions to kind of do the same transparency thank you

oh okay before that i i would encourage us because i is send an email communicate with our

city council member and just encourage them to put it in their newsletter send it out on your

newsletter it's the best way to communicate um so anyway so commissioner goris thank you

uh just uh first of all madam vice chair thank you for consistently pushing this we really really

appreciate it and i want to kind of just piggyback off a commission of press girls or comments um real

quick i just want to make some quick announcements um with district eight the the district where i live

the mok junior freedom run 5k 10k is going to be on jenny were 18th 7th 30th 7th slanting park

there's also community breakfast at eight o'clock at on Saturday january 18th at the center at

district 56 and the fifth annual marina du kins jr. day parade eight o'clock uh monday january

20th at lutherburg bank high school the 43rd annual march for the dream monday the 20th at eight o'clock

at Sacramento city college and also my last comments is i want to just dedicate this meeting to our

our exiting chair uh diginson um who was here from the conception of measure you um

her leadership's gonna be missed and um i just kind of want to acknowledge her tonight so thank you

thank you yes uh commissioner jory job yeah i just want to first off welcome all the new members

glad to have these seats filled really look forward to your ideas it's already been pretty

impactful so excited for more um and if you have any questions obviously feel free to reach out

because it can be a lot uh when you first start for sure um i think i wanted to bring up since it's

like ideas and questions um would be some sort of ad hoc creation around like budget and budget

analysis and doing this sort of metrics dig deep dive work um i know there's a lot of interest

here but as clearly we can't do that work in two hours per month so um yeah sort of

bootstrapping that i guess and starting something along these lines um that being said um the process

for this is kind of weird i guess it's just like we sort of say okay who's interested who's not

interested and then make a group uh based on that um i'm obviously interested and maybe um i guess

actually the proper protocol here we first approve it or i guess maybe this question for uh

the angel uh so let's but yeah do you know what's the proper procedure for ad hoc creation now

i forgot is do we have to approve it all or do we just so i i think they don't have the any

specific rules yet for ad hoc procedures i think there's been talk about you know what

requirements there are so i think as long as you can create it here um as long as it's not a

quorum sure um i think it should be fine cool okay so in that case um i think we'll

we'll i'm going i'm very interested in doing this work and sort of deep diving if there's other

people who are interested i mean for free speak up i guess and we can get into the metrics and

stuff like that so yeah yeah i have a question really sorry um are you are you being specific around

the upcoming budget cycle and the our recommendations for this particular

budget are you talking about more generally the metrics and all and all about other stuff we've

been talking about let me uh because you used stole my thunder i was gonna sorry about that

just that we form a ad hoc to deal with the current upcoming budget we're so we're here

January February there is no meeting and then we have March April May last year it was we did not get

a budget the um city managers budget until May then we had to scramble

respond we made our recommendations and we had to scramble respond to the managers city managers

budget and then it had to go be to budget and uh budget and audit and then from there go to

city council for it to be approved in June and that was um felt to me not thoughtful it wasn't

um it wasn't adequate but it was it was there was all kinds of things that happened last year

that that was very challenging but but this year we're in a different place because we can have

ad hoc and in the past when we we would just say we wanted to form a ad hoc as long as it's it's um

less than um the numbers of what's seven six yeah i think we we can um we and and plan and

start preparing now for what we want to make as our recommendations and and based on what we've

already seen i know we're not you know we're going to have some more departments in March

but we have enough data especially thanks to not only the dashboard but that whole long document

that that that's been provided that we can go in and start looking at it and delving in and

coming up with our recommendations ideally it would be nice to have our recommendations and give

it to the interim um city manager before the before she makes her final in in May ideally i don't

know but i i think that's so having the ad hoc starting sooner than later is really important

because it's not a lot of time and good and you all know that so it's just mainly who's interested

and then and then who's going to take leadership and convening the group together

yes yeah go ahead you're in no comment i just was volunteering oh okay

so commissioner passqual commissioner

yes you um gorus

you okay okay so i think we're what what's the number you have up to seven because we are a

15 member group oh okay seven okay so right now i have four plus me five so we have two more

okay i would like to

that's good and then i'll obviously take charge in so you you will take the leadership and reconvene

and convene in the group yep okay and then um so then march when we meet it would be nice to have a

report out yeah i think uh for me first episode we'll be figuring out what the objective of

yes i mean we obviously have an objective which because we have to have one for the ad hoc but it's

like sort of to like create a report for the council which includes both metrics and budget

recommendations i budget and metric recommendations yeah but to show me how deep we want to go i think

was a concern of when we talked about this previously like how do we want to go into every program

which is like 90 programs long and come up with metrics for each of these do we want to stay sort

of high level what sort of work do we want to do um consulting with like the individuals who we

just talked to today um like getting office time with them or whatever like there's a lot

that can be done and so like narrowing that scope and figure out exactly the target i think it's

step one and then if we can get a report in by may great or march march well if we can do uh just

to report out as to the direction where go oh sure yeah absolutely no we won't be ready by 10

until out of work no good deal okay thank you any other comments no okay public comments not on

the agenda do we have any take a chair i do you have one speaker slip mr. Lambert davis

oh okay um grand high school was not the the only uh

team that went viral during the holidays i'm going to place something and this is

by our granddaughter so you can hear it no it's going to be a good day

with the to the band bad cheese case one bite will change the life one bite will change the life

one bite will get you right one bite will get you right to the band bad cheese case to the band

bad cheese case no it's going to be a good day with it should have been bad cheese case one bite will

change the life one bite will get you right to the band bad cheese case to the band bad cheese case

no it's going to be a good day with it to the band bad cheese case okay now that's

uh my granddaughter and she is gone to college now and she approached me about an idea she had

and i'm a baby boomer i had no idea what she was talking about but she convinced me to take

her to end and out on trucks to listen to it and when i heard it i she she talked about tiktok i

said don't worry about tiktok it might be banned what we can do is approach a major company

and a major company has approached us now and here these young people are and and we have a

tremendous millennial following in this city they came to me during the pandemic they were wonderful

they literally saved our business because they patronized us but we have now gone viral in

california and the better business bureau of sacramental has endorsed us and i think mr

regani should be inspired enough to call me and let's talk about getting a check out of your

department thank you for your comments chair i have no more speakers thank you

thank you to measure you thank you and now samples yeah

yeah

and this guy mark is all of them know how to reach up to the way it's like he's

cake

go from there

thank you very much and thank you all of you july for staying till the end

this concludes our measure you commission we'll see each other in march

so