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Good evening and welcome to the February 4th,

Good evening and welcome to the February 4th, 2026 Disability Advisory Commission.

The meeting is now called to order.

Will the clerk please call the roll to establish a quorum?

Yes.

Commissioners, if you please unmute your microphones.

Commissioner Greenbaum?

Here.

Commissioner Barnbaum?

Here.

Commissioner Patel is absent.

Commissioner Wilson?

Here.

Commissioner Dyson?

Here.

Commissioner Pullen?

Here.

Commissioner Knapper?

Here.

Commissioner Igwebe is absent.

Vice Chair Ellis?

Present.

Commissioner Cower?

Aye.

Here.

Chair Kramer?

Here.

Thank you.

We have a quorum.

I would like to remind members of the public in chambers that if you would like

to speak on an agenda item, please turn in a speaker slip before the item begins.

After the item is called, we will no longer accept speaker slips.

You will have two minutes to speak once you are called on.

We will now proceed with today's agenda.

If you are able, please rise for the land acknowledgement and pledge of allegiance.

To the original people of this land, the Nisenan people, the southern Maidu, Valley and Plains

Miwok, Patwin, Winton peoples, and the people of the Wilton Rancheria, Sacramento's only

federally recognized tribe, may we acknowledge and honor the native people who came before

us and still walk beside us today on these ancestral lands by choosing to gather together

today in the active practice of acknowledgement and appreciation for Sacramento's indigenous

peoples' history, contributions, and lives.

Thank you.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for

which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Before we vote on the approval of the consent calendar, I would like to introduce and welcome

our newest commissioner, Commissioner Pullen.

Would you like an introduction?

Thank you everyone so much for recognizing me so I can speak.

I just wanted to introduce myself.

My name is Coretta Pullen, and I'm honored to join this commission.

A bit about my background, I hold a master's degree in disability studies and created the

disability studies special major at Sac State.

I previously served as special consultant for ADA compliance at Sac State, and I also

served on the system-wide California State University committee focusing on

disability access. That work taught me what changes when access is treated as a

core responsibility and not a courtesy. So I really appreciate the opportunity

to do that for the city as well. I'm going to do my best to participate fully

and consistently as commissioner. I do want to name an access barrier right

away for today. For this meeting the city was not able to provide me ASL

interpreting and when I tried to study the Commission's history by watching

past meetings the all the media on the website is not captioned so I wasn't

able to catch up to the previous meeting but I will do my best today with my

lucky captioner that is working halfway I'm very lucky that I can speak verbally

and that I'm hearing passing and that I'm able to advocate for myself but the

reason I'm thrilled to be here is that my entire life have been passionate about

about using my abled passing body and voice as a machete

for other deaf and hard of hearing peers.

And Sacramento has a huge consortium

of deaf and hard of hearing people

as well as regionally great expertise and resources.

So I am thrilled to bring to this commission a deaf voice

and that I hope that we can work together

to extend the commission to more deaf voices.

Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner Pollan.

We look forward to your contributions here on the DAC.

And now we will move on to the consent, approval of the consent calendar.

Clerk, are there any members of the public who wish to speak on the consent calendar?

I do not have any speaker cards for this item.

Thank you.

Are there any commissioners who wish to speak on this item?

Madam Chair, I would like to make a motion to approve the consent calendar as presented by staff.

Second.

We have one approval from Commissioner Barnbaum and a second from Vice Chair Ellis.

I'll call the roll if you'll unmute your microphones.

Commissioner Greenbaum?

Aye.

Commissioner Barnbaum?

Aye.

Commissioner Fatal is absent.

Commissioner Wilson?

Commissioner Dyson.

Aye.

Commissioner Pullen.

Aye.

Commissioner Knapper.

Aye.

Commissioner Guevara is absent.

Vice Chair Ellis.

Aye.

Commissioner Carr.

Aye.

Chair Kramer.

Aye.

The motion passes.

We will now proceed to the consent calendar.

Our first item today on the consent calendar is the SAC Adapt Transportation Infrastructure

adaption plan.

Sarah Kolarek, Excellent.

Good evening, commissioners.

My name is Sarah Kolarek, and I'm a sustainability specialist in the city's Office of Climate

Action and Sustainability in the Public Works Department.

Tonight's presentation is about SACADAPT,

our Transportation Infrastructure Adaptation Plan.

It is an update on the plan's progress,

an overview of the recommendations in the plan,

and an overview of the public engagement approach

that we're taking for this third and final phase

of engagement for public review of the draft plan.

I last presented to this commission

in November of last year, so I will be providing

a little bit of a more brief update on the plan

so I can really focus on the recommendations

and the things that have changed since I last presented.

So the quick overview to set the stage.

SACADAPT is a planning effort to analyze

extreme weather risks to our transportation system.

This is a grant-funded planning effort

with money from Caltrans through an adaptation

planning grant. The city of Sacramento is the project lead for this work, but we are

working in partnership with SACRT and they were a partner in the grant application and

they're a full partner in the implementation of this planning work.

So with SACADAPT we are looking at all types, all parts of our transportation system and

and how we can prepare those for extreme weather events.

So when I'm describing our transportation system, I'm thinking about roadways, bicycle

facilities, sidewalks, as well as public transportation infrastructure through that RT partnership.

So that includes bus stops, light rail stations, and the infrastructure to support both of

those.

When it comes to extreme weather risks in Sacramento, we are primarily looking at extreme

extreme heat, extreme storms which contribute to both flooding and impacts from high wind.

We're also looking to a certain extent at regional fire impacts with impacts on our

local air quality.

On this slide there's two photos demonstrating some of what these extreme weather risks can

mean for our transportation system.

So in the top right we have a photo of the Sacramento River with an extremely high water

level after a dam release with heavy rains that have led to actual, this is an image

looking at towards Howard Bridge in the city of Sacramento, but it also shows on the west

Sacramento side how high river levels can totally inundate riverside pedestrian facilities

with a staircase that's nearly flooded to the brim.

On the bottom right of this slide we have a photo of a very large tree almost fully blocking

a roadway because it's been knocked down because of high winds and there's also a traffic or

a street light, excuse me, and a traffic sign also blown down.

So these are meaningful impacts to our transportation system and these are ongoing impacts.

We are already facing the impacts of heat, extreme storms, fires, and these will continue

to intensify and become more frequent as a result of climate change.

So with this effort we are doing the baseline analysis to then set ourselves up to identify

and prioritize actionable recommendations that can importantly help position us to take

steps internally to advance policy, internal operations changes, but then also position

ourselves for future funding, in particular grant funding to help us implement these changes.

so a brief recap of the project timeline and so this slide is has a little bit of an infographic

to try to break down those steps so starting from left moving our way through each stage

in august 2024 we kicked off the project work in fall 2024 we started by developing a literature

review and an existing conditions report where we reviewed a lot of the foundational plans.

For example, our climate action and adaptation plan, our local hazard mitigation plan, and

many other plans to understand what work has already been done, what policies already exist,

and what challenges we've already documented.

From there, getting into early 2025, and specifically running from mid-January through February 2025, we hosted our first phase of public engagement, which focused on understanding what extreme weather impacts impact residents most strongly and how residents have been impacted by extreme heat, storms, cold, et cetera.

From there, going into spring 2025, we developed a vulnerability assessment, which was helping us analyze what extreme weather risks will look like in the coming decades, how they will be intensifying, and to help us break down what specific extreme weather risks will be impacting different assets, different parts of our transportation system.

system. From there, going into summer 2025, we developed a draft risk assessment which

was pulling from the vulnerability assessment and focusing on specific transportation assets

to understand what happens if an asset fails because of extreme weather, what are the highest

consequence assets, what parts of our transportation system have the biggest impact if they're

are not functioning as desired.

All of these efforts fed into our more recent work,

so this is continuing on our project timeline.

We moved from the risk assessment

into our phase two engagement,

which took place in late 2025.

So we had a survey open between mid-September

through early November 2025,

and we presented to both the Active Transportation Commission

and this Disabilities Advisory Commission in November 2025.

We used that phase two engagement approach

to understand priorities,

both to feed back into the risk assessment

to help with that scoring

and to help identify and prioritize adaptation strategies.

We took that information as well as internal review

to complete our risk assessment,

finalize and prioritize adaptation strategies

and prepare our draft plan.

Which brings us to where we are now,

which is our phase three engagement,

where we are conducting a public review period

for our draft plan.

More details on that in some of the coming slides.

We presented to Active Transportation Commission

last month and we're here tonight,

the Disabilities Advisory Commission.

From here, we will be taking feedback

from this public review phase,

working to finalize the plan, incorporating feedback,

and then working towards city council in April 2026

in order to meet our grant deadline,

which is at the end of the month in April.

So moving into the actual overview

of the adaptation strategies and implementing actions,

we have for the city 10 overarching strategies

with 59 specific implementing actions.

Tonight I'll just be overviewing

the overarching 10 strategies, but please take a look.

Please review the plan to get

all of the 59 implementation actions.

I'll highlight some of the key implementation actions

that may connect most to what you're interested in.

Overall they do break out into four general categories.

So we have 12 implementation actions related to heat, 16 for flooding, 19 for all hazard

and 12 for disaster preparedness.

Since this plan is in partnership with SACRT we also have a set of adaptation strategies

for RT with 11 overarching strategies and 23 implementing actions.

I'm not going to be going over those tonight in this presentation since that's not

city purview but please take a look and comment on that portion of our plan.

I'll have links and I'll cover that at the end.

Thank you.

So getting into the specific recommendations, we have create built environments that reduce

exposure to extreme heat and mitigate the urban heat island effect.

This is really trying to center the human level experience and the impacts that you face if

you're walking, biking, rolling, taking transit and experiencing extreme heat.

A number of specific implementing actions include implementing the urban forest plan

to expand tree canopy, advancing heat production in the public realm, expanding drinking water

access, creating a wayfinding program, and improving noticing for bicycle and pedestrian

facility closures. All of these actions that I've just actually mentioned are stemming

from other adopted planning efforts including our climate action adaptation plan, general

plan, streets for people active transportation plan, local hazard mitigation plan, and details

are in the draft plan online identifying the language, where it has come from, and if there's

any recommended changes. Also under heat we have create built environments

that are resilient to the impacts of extreme heat. That's focused primarily on the actual

integrity of infrastructure so that's looking at, for example, street pavement specifications

and traffic signal equipment.

For recommendations under flooding, we have increased stormwater drainage capacity which

highlights many actions identified in the local hazard mitigation plan and climate action

and adaptation plan to increase capacity of our stormwater drainage system so that it

can keep up with bigger, more intense storms.

It also includes a strategy from our CAP to integrate stormwater mitigation strategies

into city infrastructure, expanding that to roadway infrastructure and not just thinking

about park infrastructure. And also increasing maintenance capacity for cleaning culverts,

ditches, creeks and storm drains which is a new action to highlight the importance of

maintenance in order for a storm drain system to function as designed. And you'll see investing

in infrastructure maintenance is a big theme that is the other overarching flooding recommendation

because many of our systems, many of our city infrastructure is only as good as maintenance

we're able to provide. So infrastructure maintenance is a big piece of that.

Under all hazard, the overarching recommendations are increasing community resilience to prepare

for climate impacts which include many outreach and education actions highlighted in the local

hazard mitigation plan and RCAP. And one specific example is expanding CERT training. And CERT

is a community emergency response team. So supporting local individuals and their ability

to help their neighbors in emergency situations. We also have reducing the risk of power outages,

both the likelihood of power outages occurring and the impacts if they do occur. Strengthening

city government capacity for climate resilience, which includes some internal administrative

actions and steps that we need to take to support our, for example, workers in extreme

heat conditions, also administrative ways that we can advance climate resilience, and

support resilience of transit facilities, which highlights actions from our Climate

Action Adaptation Plan to support transit to the extent that we can, but also acknowledging

that's a critical part of our climate action goals, increasing mode shift to buses and

light rail. Finally, there's two recommendations under

disaster preparedness, strengthening city government disaster preparedness and capacity

for emergency response which highlights many actions from our local hazard mitigation planning

CAP to enhance emergency planning and engagement resources on the staff level as well as additional

emergency and disaster preparedness exercises.

And then finally, consider evacuation needs and planning, which highlights development

standards and coordination across different departments.

So getting into the community engagement pathways.

Specific details.

So our draft plan is available for review.

There's two ways to access it online.

So you can get to either of these pathways by going to our project website, which is

cityofsacramento.gov slash sacadapt.

From there you can click into the Conveyo platform where there's an opportunity to have

live engagement with the plan.

You can drop comments and see what other people have commented on, have dialogue within the

comments.

There's another option to go onto the website and download an ADA accessible copy of the

plan and then email any comments that you have to climate at cityofsacramento.org.

The deadline for comments is February 12th.

So that's a week from tomorrow.

For the events and targeted engagement, we have a full list of events on our project

website.

We're hosting two online workshops. Actually, one was last night. We'll have our other online workshop tomorrow night at 6 p.m. with the link available on the project website.

Registration is required, but that's just a simple thing to fill in your name and email, and you'll get a link to the workshop.

It'll be an opportunity to hear an overview of the plan, very similar to what I shared tonight, as well as a demo of the comment platform and opportunity for Q&A.

We'll also be attending other in-person events including two events this Saturday, a Chinese

New Year celebration, and Steps to College event at Cal Expo.

So a reminder, tonight's item recommendation is a review and comment.

So highlighting both my interest in hearing about your feedback on the engagement approach

as well as any feedback on the summarized adaptation strategies.

And that's it.

Thank you very much.

This closing slide just has my contact information

and a link to the project website,

as well as a beautiful photo of a tree

and some great things we need more of.

Well, thank you so very much for your presentation.

I just want to ask a few questions myself

before handing it over to my fellow commissioners.

that does this, do these evacuation plans also include those for like man-made disasters?

This is very focused on climate-related disasters.

Yeah, so extreme heat, extreme storms.

Okay.

And finally, I just want to say for the evacuation needs, I feel like this should be prioritized.

Even though during my 30 plus years of living in Sacramento, I never experienced a city having a disaster in need of its citizens needing to evacuate.

I know other areas of California haven't been so fortunate.

And looking back on even just the last decade, there have been disasters which have led to those with disabilities staying behind in order to give their families and loved ones time to escape.

and like I said

just from my perspective

I know from my perspective at least living here

Sacramento seems a very safe place

from those kind of situations

so I was wondering if there would be a way

if we can make Sacramento a safe haven

for the citizens that are in those areas

at least during times

like let's say for instance

if they live up in the mountains

and fire season is coming along

if they can have an advanced opportunity

to come and stay in Sacramento during that duration of time until the fire season is over?

I'll say that is outside of the scope of this plan, looking at creating safe havens for other parts of the state.

But certainly there's getting to your question, an example about evacuations.

That's something that has been thought about as part of this planning effort.

ways of enhancing communication and engagement and preparedness are included in some of the

adaptation strategies and making sure that we are addressing all populations especially anyone who

may need additional assistance or warning as part of that any potential evacuation effort and of

course this planning effort involves a lot of planning to make sure that we don't have

those situations as much as possible. Thank you very much I'll now turn it to my fellow

commissioners and first up is commissioner barnbaum yes thank you um in the slide that discussed the

list of the possible disasters um one was not listed and it we had it fairly recently

the weather phenomenon known as DFA,

dense fog advisory.

We had a series of days,

about two weeks plus in December,

where visibility was almost next to nothing.

And television meteorologists define

a DFA, dense fog advisory,

as anything one quarter of a mile of visibility or less.

Has any discussion taken place at the staff level,

or is this perhaps the time to bring it up,

that DFAs need to be included in the SAC-ADAPT climate plan?

This is absolutely the time to bring that up.

So you're right, fog was not considered specifically as far as an acute hazard to actual infrastructure

itself, like in our roadways.

The integrity of the road will be okay in a fog event.

But this does certainly fit within the sort of all hazard bucket of a need for better,

I think communication, potentially awareness, engagement around how to navigate safely through

different extreme weather events. There will be times that people still need to travel when it's

very hot, when it's very windy, when there's localized flooding, or when there is dense fog.

And so that's duly noted to include that. Within, we actually have a strategy related to all hazard

engagement and preparedness. And so I've made that note down.

Okay. My other questions are, you indicated the comment period goes through Thursday of next week.

Yes.

and you reminded me um didn't know if you realize this um there will be a special

meeting on monday at 1600 4 p.m of the regional transit board of directors because they did not

hold a regular meeting in the month of january are you presenting this as an information item

to the Sacramento Regional Transit District Board on February 9th

to get their feedback, maybe not necessarily approval,

but feedback as part of the comment period that is going to terminate on the 12th.

We are not currently scheduled for that.

I can bring this up with RT folks.

I know that they've been working on the engagement internally.

Through each phase of engagement,

we've reached out and connected with the Mobility Advisory Council that RT convenes,

and we were able to present to the RT MAC in the first and second phase of engagement.

We were scheduled to present to them in January.

That meeting got canceled, but we've shared out the information,

so we still have been engaging with RT advisory boards.

Okay.

I would only suggest that since it was brought to my attention

that their regular meeting on January 26th was canceled,

and it will be a special meeting on February 9th,

and this is within the comment period timeframe you indicated,

that even if it does not appear on the agenda,

that I would like to see that engagement between your team

at the Regional Transit District Board of Directors

be prevalent because you indicated in your presentation that they are a partner on this

and it's not something the city is doing alone.

Absolutely right.

Yep.

I'll connect with them on that.

Yeah.

And then you did indicate, because I had a side question before the meeting started,

but I think this is probably important to ask now.

At some point on the timeline you showed on that slide, does the Regional Transit District Board, the City Council, and maybe another entity have to each get it approved so it's a collaborative effort of approvals by each of the governing bodies mentioned?

Yes, that is correct.

So I have focused on the city-related items in this presentation,

so we'll be going to City Council in April.

This will also be going to the RT Board of Directors in April.

Okay, it's also scheduled for action at their meeting in April.

Yes, and I'm not familiar in all the specific lingo that they use for their board meetings,

but yes, we're working with the staff to have that go to their RT Board in April.

Okay. But again, I just hope that on the 9th it could go to the board just to gather feedback and information so that they provide that before your imposed deadline of the 12th.

I'll follow up with RT.

And then the last question was on the 11 strategies and then 23 implementation things.

You said you weren't going to go over those tonight, but where can folks here?

I think a lot of folks on this commission, perhaps either our choice or dependent riders of SACRT.

Where could folks go to get that unless you have it with you?

So that's in the draft plan.

Yeah.

The chapter three is focused on the adaptation strategies and there's a full section for the RT strategies.

I don't have them memorized.

I can follow up with an email or that could be part of the follow-up log potentially with a list of the strategies and an email of the page number.

I'm looking to staff about the best way to share that.

Okay, I'll make a motion to put that in the follow-up log for the next agenda.

Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner Barnbaum.

Commissioner Wilson.

Thank you for the presentation.

One of the recommendations that I really like seeing is reducing the risks of power auditors.

Just because by disability requires a use of it.

of a ventilator and other disabilities do as well.

Again, I'm one of the lucky few that are qualified

for disaster funding to purchase two backup batteries

from a brain machine.

But I'm just curious, does a job plan describe how

they're going to reduce the risks of gut terror?

So for like backup batteries and backup power at a resident level, this plan doesn't go into that level of detail.

We have only some high-level strategies about backup power for city infrastructure and thinking about city critical facilities,

which can include things like pump stations, which would need to be turned on if we have a heavy rain event.

and we lose power but we need to be keeping roadways clear.

But for the resident level we have, I think that would fit into education on and resources

on backup power could fit into some of the all hazard and disaster preparedness engagement

pieces but we don't have specifics outlined in the plan.

Thank you.

Thank you Commissioner Wilson.

Commissioner Greenbaum.

Thank you. That was excellent presentation. What was the turnout like last night at the online public comment?

The online workshop. We didn't have a high attendance. I think it was about five people. I know we're right now competing with a lot of other national issues and a lot of local events.

I mean, there's a lot happening right now.

And I mean, of course, um, in terms of getting the word out, um, what, what do you guys do?

Yeah.

Um, so we have listed off.

So we have the information on the project website.

Um, we did, um, a broad city express post highlighting the project and ways to get involved.

We didn't have the registration links at that point.

Um, we have done some social media, um, promotions.

so posting and boosted promotions to get it out.

We have been going to in-person events

and sharing information about the workshops online.

And then we've done a wave of kind of targeted emails

to community groups.

So we have a list of about 110, I believe, community groups

where we've emailed that out to identify the ways

of getting involved with information about just direct comment

on the plan as well as in person and the online events.

Great. Well, thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner Greenbaum.

Commissioner Knapper.

Thank you so much for your presentation.

I can't wait to dig into the documentation.

I was curious, one thing is you mentioned about the roadways or pathways.

are you also looking at bike trails and walk trails?

What made me think about was the ditches and creeks

because some of them in my district are very adjacent to creeks or canals or ditches

that are very full when we have rainy season or when the snow melts around here.

The other thing is thank you, Commissioner Greenbaum, for lifting up the awareness piece.

I heard you mention educational

there's an educational segment

it would be nice if it doesn't exist

I haven't read the document I'm being honest

that would include maybe some safety tips

for evacuating those of us living with disabilities

that would be really nice

and I'm sure that this commission here

has some thoughts around that

for the city to put on their website that would be great

And then I think the third thing I'd like to mention if I may and I know you're not here to present on this but I want to for the records here

regarding the regional transit portion of this draft plan is we have the covered parking covered bus stop spaces.

I see we have great bus stops and great you know there's some benches but not very many covered and in inclement weather times.

That's really challenging, particularly in some of our more tree-lined areas.

Without being covered and waiting for the bus, it's pretty scary.

So I certainly look forward to participating in the public comment period.

And again, thank you for your presentation.

Just to confirm, shared-use paths, any bicycle facilities that are not on the street

but are bicycle facilities that would include the walking and biking paths along creeks,

that is considered as part of a bicycle facility

that was grouped into that asset type.

Thank you, Commissioner Knapper.

Commissioner Pullen.

Thank you very much,

and thank you to whoever turned on the speaker.

That was huge.

So I understood half of it,

so stop me if this has already been said.

has the city reached out at all to the resources for independent living RIL

they have a disaster disability disaster access and resources center

which is funded by the California Foundation for Independent Living Centers

which is the statewide organization

but specifically I know CFILC has directly partnered with PG&E

regarding public safety power shutoffs and providing RIL will give Sacramento citizens who need battery backups, generators, etc. through RIL.

So if the city could specifically reach out to the disability disaster accesses and resources,

A lot of what you were talking about with this being an overall, I understand that, but I think there is those resources that are being separately grant funded, and if we can provide a little bit more of overlap, that would be great, especially for, I'm sure those people, if they haven't been reached out to, I'm sure that they would love to be involved with looking at this.

And they certainly have a lot more understanding of what disabled people need, specifically with the wildfires and with public safety power shutoffs, more than maybe any individual commissioner.

So I would love to know slash suggest that the city reach out to them.

Thank you for that.

this planning effort didn't get into the level of granularity of developing the resources for

education and outreach but thank you for highlighting that as a valuable resource and

I'll be I've noted it down way we also have folks taking notes in the audience and we'll be sure to

share that with the folks who are actually working on the implementation of that action

thank you

thank you Commissioner Pollan Commissioner Carr

Thank you. Thank you so much for your presentation and welcome back. Thank you. And last time when we talked about this project, we had listed a couple of resources that you can probably reach out to and see if you can get more public feedback on those.

So, like I was just listening to you, you didn't get a lot of public feedback basically.

So, in that case, like how are you going to make sure that people do know, like the proper knowledge is imparted to them

so that they are able to access, you know, all the resources that you're working towards?

Yeah, thank you for that.

So just to follow up on the workshop that we hosted online last night, that didn't attract a lot of people.

I will note, though, we have, at least last I checked, over 100 comments on the online plan.

So we are still engaging folks.

I think folks are instead choosing to engage with it on their own time rather than during a structured public workshop.

up. So I'm sure that number will increase over the next week and a half or a week as

we're collecting more comment. We will be doing additional efforts to engage with folks,

leveraging some of the virtual options. So sharing, continuing to do social media posts.

We'll be attending in-person events this Saturday. We've had other pop-up in-person events at

some transit stations, busiest transit stations, including 12th Street and University 65th

Street for this phase of engagement. We'll also be posting a recording of the online

workshop to our website so people, again, can engage with it on their own time and have

the resources to know where they can provide a comment.

Okay. So it seems like this project is for, like, it's not particularly geared towards

the people with disabilities, like resources for everyone.

I do like Commissioner Pullen's idea,

because this will be the population that will be most affected by it.

Obviously, everyone will be, but this is more at risk.

So it will be great if those resources can be used

to get more information and incorporated in this.

That will be great. Thank you.

thank you commissioner car commissioner wilson

can i be a government systems change advocate for resources for the living

get a Southern California Public Utilities Commission

recently voted to discontinue DDRR funding for the program

because there's advocacy efforts going on right now

to try to convince the Public Utilities Commission

to reinstate that funding.

But if you're able to leave me with your card,

your card,

can I get you in contact with their disaster coordinator?

Can you provide more information?

Yeah, that'd be great to get that info.

As far as, let's see,

just to confirm,

if you're interested in my contact information or card,

I don't have one on me,

but I can go grab one quickly after the meeting

or I can also share in the follow-up blog my email address if that's the easiest way.

Yeah, okay.

Thank you.

I should have brought my cards.

Yeah, Sarah, if you forwarded me some of the responses to the inquiries earlier and your contact,

I'd be happy to share that.

Perfect.

Perfect.

Cool.

E-mail address is in the presentation as well.

It is in the presentation and staff report but I'm also happy to I'll be following up

regardless and so then that will be another easy way to just have that readily accessible.

Thank you so very much Commissioner Wilson.

Mr. Barnbaum?

Yes, there was actually something mentioned from our other commissioners.

Thank you to Commissioner Pollin for mentioning resources for independent living.

I'd like to go on record and also mention Alta California Regional Center,

probably one of the largest vendors in the region not just the city and the county but the region

overall providing services to people with physical developmental intellectual and cognitive

disabilities and their families for years.

And I think that they ought to be involved some way or another in the SAC

ADAPT program that you're presenting to us today.

Thank you.

I've made a note of that, and I'll share that with the folks who'd be

implementing that education and engagement action.

And then one follow-up question.

Since this does involve SACRT, and you mentioned you were out at some of their stations, is this a climate action plan going to the other cities within the SACRT district?

Or is that a call that SACRT would have to make and not so much the city of Sacramento?

This project, since it was done in partnership with the City of Sacramento and led by the City of Sacramento,

it was focused on City of Sacramento as well as all of the RT light rail infrastructure that extends out of the city

and RT maintenance facilities that may be outside of the city.

But for the most part, for example, bus stops, the focus was really within the city

since that was the data sets that were available and that we are the lead on the project.

And so it was a city of Sacramento-focused effort.

So as a result, it is not going to the other jurisdictions within RT service territory,

though certainly if RT is taking action on future projects, that would impact those jurisdictions

and they would be engaging with them appropriately.

Okay. Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner Barnbaum.

Commissioner Pollin?

Really quickly, I had no idea that DDAR was, the fund was gone.

So that's really disturbing.

And I hope that the city then really takes that seriously, that there isn't these, this other type of resource.

and that it's that much more important that the city include these sort of basic and micro resources

that even though it might not seem, you know, on a grand scheme that that's a part of the city,

it really, that's very disturbing to me that DDAR is done.

And I will also say in the essence of providing resources for you to reach out to, NorCal

Services for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing is going to be a very big agency for you in

regarding to interpreters.

FEMA historically has gone up to its butted heads with the National Association for the

deaf regarding emergency broadcasting and making sure that deaf and hard of hearing

people get the information and resources that they need to evacuate and things of that nature,

as well as, you know, in warming centres or things like that where a deaf individual might

have to leave their home and be relocated, a lot of times interpreters are not there

and it's already such a terrifying time,

not having any sort of plan for how these individuals will be treated

and get the information that they need

is something that should be a priority at the beginning

just so that you have that plan right away.

So NorCal services will be very helpful in that regard for you as well.

Thank you, Commissioner Paulin.

If there are no other commissioners who wish to speak on this item, I wanted to say thank you so much again for your presentation.

Thank you.

Are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item?

I do not have any speaker slips for this item.

Thank you.

Our next item is the oral report staff report.

Yeah, so just want to really highlight that you approved the disabilities annual report and work plan.

Put a lot of work in on that.

to go to the personnel and public employee committee February 24th.

So Tuesday, February 24th at 11 a.m.

So maybe take a note and put that in your calendars.

Of course, encourage Chair Kramer and Vice Chair Ellis to be there.

I will introduce you to give the presentation.

But all the commissioners are welcome.

you can fill out a speaker slip on the item if there's anything you in particular you'd like to

share with the P and PE committee. So once again that's Tuesday February 24th at 11 a.m.

I should be able to attend Jesse. Awesome. Sylvia you want to check your calendar? Yes. Okay.

Okay.

I should go to a tent, too.

Okay.

So, yep, and just to go over logistics, so I'll introduce Sylvia and Keith at the podium, but other commissioners, so like Commissioner Greenbaum, you can speak.

Just fill out a speaker slip.

Yep.

Okay.

Okay.

And then the next item is you also review the prospective plan.

This reviews the accessibility improvements,

go into construction, a look forward and a look behind.

And so that is going to be going to city council on the consent calendar on

March 4th.

So that is going to be going on March 4th.

March 4th?

Yes.

Is that a council date?

I believe that's the next commission meeting date.

Oh, I believe it's March 3rd.

Then I got a, okay.

My apologies.

So March 3rd.

Good catch.

Copy.

Oh, and I did want to bring up something.

So that concludes my report.

Thanks.

We'll now move on to Commissioner Comments.

Commissioner Barnbaum.

Yes.

So actually, thank you, Jesse.

That's a good segue.

So the next meeting for us, I know, is March 4th.

And we're ever getting so closely to that time of the year

where we have the two meetings fairly close to each other.

can we bring back that particular topic at the march 4th meeting and i agree with commissioner

napper from last meeting that we maintain just the thought right now maintain the april meeting

as scheduled and discuss National Mental Health Awareness Month in April because that topic

would prepare us for National Mental Health Awareness Month, which is in May, and then

cancel the meeting in May as far as how do we structure the agenda item for the month of March.

Um, second comment. Um, thank you for the introduction, uh, Commissioner Karina Pollan, um, that, that you, um, had, um, I heard you mention Sacramento State a couple of times, uh, in, in what you said.

um so to our new coach alonzo carter big stingers up uh to you welcome to the commission

i happen to be wearing a marty mapu uh jersey he played at sacramento state and he will be

playing in the super bowl on sunday for mike vrabel and the new england patriots

I'm a Niners fan so I had to go with my guy on the Patriots

I can't root for that other team on the other side of the ball

that I'm not going to mention

also I was asked to read something into the record from my friend Kolika Siegel

who heads a group called Sacramento Social Justice Politicorps

and this group can find this very familiar to them.

Black disabled leaders have always shaped history,

even when history failed to recognize them.

From voting rights and civil rights to disability justice,

LGBTQ plus liberation and education,

black disabled leaders helped build movements

that expanded access, opportunity,

and participation for millions. Too often their disabilities are erased from the story

or their contributions are overlooked altogether. And especially in this group being the Disability

Advisory Commission and during Black History Month here in February, I was asked that we

recognize Fannie Lou Hammer, who had a mobility impairment, chronic pain, and vision loss,

powerful voice for voting rights, economic justice, and health equity. Brad Lomax, who had multiple

sclerosis, a key organizer who helped bridge the black civil rights and disability rights movements.

audrey lord cancer and chronic illness a poet essayist and activist who shaped feminist

black liberation lgbtq plus and disability justice movements and finally barbara jordan

who had multiple sclerosis a trailblazing lawyer educator and elected official

so yes thank you to my friend

Colica Siegel and the

social justice

political corps for

recognizing and combining

disability history

with black history

appropriately enough

here in the month of February

thank you

thank you so much Commissioner

Barnbaum

and again I cannot say this enough

is that disabilities do not discriminate.

They do not discriminate one's age, one's sex, one's affiliation or race.

You know, anyone at any time can become disabled,

whether through birth, illness, or injury.

I think that's important to remember as we continue.

Commissioner Carr?

First of all, welcome, Commissioner Fulain.

It's good to have you on the commission.

Secondly, today is Rosa Parks Day.

It's a good day to observe the life, to honor the life and legacy of Rosa Parks and highlight

the power of individual courage and its ripple effect into collective action.

And secondly, today is World Cancer Day as well.

So we all should get tested and take care of ourselves,

make sure that we do preventative care and look after each other too.

And another is International Epilepsy Day

to raise global awareness about epilepsy, neurological condition that's affecting millions,

and it has a lot of stigma attached to it.

So make sure we somehow spread more awareness about it.

That's about it for me. Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner Carr.

Commissioner Wilson.

I just wanted to say welcome to Commissioner Talbot.

Because I'm a systems change advocate for RAL,

I'm part of a statewide coalition called a Disability Organizing Network.

and this month they're going to be mobilizing

for the California Public Utilities Commission.

We're looking for as many voices

because we can't share their stories

and get out to get back the funding

for this essential program.

So if anybody would like to join,

please reach out to me.

through argument through work.

I can get people connected to the coalition

because we can really use some more voices,

especially from members of the community.

So thank you.

Thank you so very much, Commissioner Wilson.

Vice Chair Ellis.

Thank you.

First, I just want to echo and uplift

much of what has been said tonight

because a number of it I was going to say myself and you put it better than I could have.

So I appreciate all the dialogue around the agenda item and the other comments.

But I do want to specifically echo, yes, it is Black History Month or as UC Davis Chancellor May referred to it as Black Futures Month.

So also looking backward, but let's look forward to it at the same time.

So I'll just uplift that.

And the only other thing that I'm kind of struggling with at the moment is time and time again, individuals on the dais have the need to express their need for reasonable accommodation in this public forum, and that's rather awkward.

I'm just going to speak it.

It's not, and it's usually because one reason or another,

and it just shouldn't have to come to that.

So I would hope, since a request has been made in public,

that there is a need for a particular accommodation on a regular basis,

that that just can be made and be available since it's known.

but it's reasonable accommodations

should hopefully stay confidential

but I understand

commissioners in the past

have felt the need

to bring it forward into the public space

to try to get what they need

but it shouldn't have to come to that

so I just want to uplift that

and hopefully we can have

that in place

in our future meetings

going forward

but again

And thank you to everyone across the dais for all your comments this evening around tonight's agenda.

Thank you, Vice Chair Ellis.

Commissioner Greenbaum.

Well, I echo Vice Chair Ellis' comments.

And I wanted to welcome our new commissioner, Commissioner Pullen.

I am it was it's not okay that you experienced accessibility issues and I

echo like I said Keith I'm sorry Vice Chair Ellis is that we that needs to be

taken care of and thank you for bringing it to our attention too and I look

forward to I would I know will be very invaluable insight from you thank you

Thank you Commissioner Greenbaum and Commissioner Knapper. Thank you Chair

Kramer and welcome. Welcome Commissioner Pullen and all the wonderful. It's a great

meeting tonight. Northgate Boulevard update I know we agreed we approved the

calendar, follow-up calendar but I just want to just still thinking about it.

The other thing too is this area, we see these little pockets of space with our residential areas,

particularly around El Centro and Arco Arena.

Those are big interstate, like they're wide.

I see young people going, you know, back and forth from school.

I see, you know, just residents going back from their homes to shopping, what have you.

There's a major gap between the sidewalk.

I don't know.

It looks like maybe a car or truck pullout.

And then just until you get to the intersection.

Two lanes, one way, one lane going one way, one going the other,

like headed towards the airport or central.

I'm a little nervous every time I go by there,

worried about our neighbors that are trying to get through.

I do see a lot of maybe older adults or middle-aged adults going through trying to get to local shopping.

I don't even know what the path would look like for someone with a disability maybe using assists,

maybe a cane or a wheelchair.

It's actually probably going to be impossible or improbable.

I'm not going to say it's going to be impossible, but certainly not safe.

And so I wanted to lift that up because it seems problematic.

I don't know how else people in this particular residential area get to the shopping where, you know, where things are.

Because there's a big break in the sidewalk.

There's no sidewalk.

And so I do want to look that up, put it on the city's radar.

I think that's an area, if we're looking towards District 1 or that kind of area,

if we can add the El Centro, Arc Arena, cross-section there, something to look at.

I don't know what that could be or why that is.

I assume because it was just a big old truck lane inside River Road.

You know, you get through the fields.

I remember that before we had houses.

Now we have houses.

So anyway, thank you for entertaining this.

And, yeah, I love it.

Black History Month and celebrating 100 years of it

and all the black excellence that exists.

And one mention I'd like to mention,

And Commissioner Barnbaum is Lois Curtis and her partner, really amazing, lived with an

intellectual and developmental disability.

And thank you to them that many of us living with disabilities are able to live independently

in the community.

And thank you to the commission who makes sure that all the things we need to make sure

that we trip very safely in that community and have access to the things that everyone

else has so we can live and thrive and work in the communities that we live in voluntarily

and independently.

So thank you.

And we'll add Lewis Curtis.

Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner Knapper.

Commissioner Polin.

Yes, I just wanted to, I guess, clarify.

My reason for making the access barrier clear is specifically for public records so that

if there was any sort of vote or anything that I would need to say yes or no to, that it be clear

that I didn't have the full specific language. And so that was more for the record, not as to

make anything awkward, uncomfortable, or put anybody on blast, so to say. I do think,

this is my first commission meeting, so please feel free to let me know how things are done.

But I would like to ask if it was possible to look at our meeting's accessibility for the public.

I know I have in discussing when I first interviewed with the mayor's staff about this,

I communicated with some of my deaf colleagues, and they didn't know that the meeting really existed.

And when they looked things up, because deaf people would love to say things, they are one of the most militant of disabled groups.

They want that.

That's one of the things I love about deaf culture.

They tell you exactly what it is and what they need and what they want.

And with my work at Sac State, Sac State has a very large amount of deaf faculty.

And so that was one of the big things that they wanted a space and a seat at the table on the university's Disability Advisory Commission.

And there was, historically, disability and deafness has either been at odds or piggybacked upon.

Many deaf individuals do not consider themselves disabled, and there's also deaf disabled individuals.

And it's a very contentious history with that group.

And so with the WCAG, which, you know, asks for things to be captioned, any sort of media, I really, I would love to bring that as something that this commission should maybe look at with these meetings.

You know, part of when I interviewed, it was how are you going to ensure that the public is able to speak and is able to know what's going on?

And it's a really big gap for not just deaf people, but people with intellectual disabilities, where seeing is really important with those captions alone.

My own ASL interpreting needs that will be dealt with reasonable accommodations, but rather universal design of our meetings itself.

I find it very hard to believe that a Disability Advisory Commission would not have captioned, even live captions, frankly, but just alone, just the WCAG of these meetings and the city.

I mean, it's the city.

So you would think Disability Advisory Commission would be accessible with that sort of basic, even YouTube, automatic captions, even that.

but that doesn't exist with the Granicus, or I think that's how you say it, on the city's website.

So that's just something that I really want to ask in some sort of way, however formally or informally,

however this works, that we look at making this commission specifically,

because one of the things that I was able to see from previous meetings

was that this commission was working on a draft saying that this commission was going to be the backbone of accessible public meetings for the city.

And so if we cannot be the most accessible, how can we expect the animal people or the children people or any of the other people that are coming together?

So that was my reason for stating my access barrier at the beginning.

it was not to pull an HR or anything of that nature, I assure you.

Thank you.

Thank you so very much, Commissioner Pullen.

Mr. Gothen?

Yes, so I just wanted to respond to Commissioner Knapper on Northgate.

Projects are in the queue on Northgate.

You know, there's a project that is a beautification project.

It's putting a new decorative wall on the west side that will actually be advertising for construction this year.

Then there is a Northgate quick build project that will be going through its design phase soon.

And then there's a Northgate Complete Streets effort, which will be a multimillion-dollar effort that will be kicking off this fall.

So a lot coming on Northgate.

And then our mobility and sustainability group has worked through a lot of preliminary planning.

And so those plans have been transitioned to the engineering division.

So we're looking at implementation and identifying the funding is key for advancing those projects.

And then, let's see.

Yeah, you brought up Northgate and was there something else?

El Centro.

Okay, yes.

In North Natomas, under construction right now, this isn't by El Centro.

This is on the kind of other side.

But on the Jackrabbit Trail with North Natomas Jive sponsoring and funds from the mayor sponsoring the project,

we're putting in a new accessible crossing, a full signalized crossing of Arena, which is one of those larger arterials.

So I'll look into if there's any updates on El Centro.

But there are portions of El Centro that are just kind of undeveloped on.

Yeah.

Yeah, some of the sidewalks, if something is incomplete, they forgot a patch or two.

Yeah.

So, you know, I'd look, you know, a lot of our sidewalks and a lot of our improvements are conditions of development.

So as those parcels develop, that's when the city says, well, you know, in order to subdivide, in order to sell those parcels, you have to build them with these improvements in them.

So with that, and then Commissioner Pullen, welcome.

and I did want to encourage you to look at the Commission's annual report.

There's a lot of recommendations in there,

kind of on the same theme of some of the topics you brought up.

So, you know, obviously I know you'd be welcome to come to the P&PE committee meeting too

if you wanted to comment on that.

So I just wanted to make that comment. Thanks.

Thank you. Commissioner Patel?

Hi, everybody.

Sorry for my lateness.

sometimes things happen in life.

I'm happy to be here.

I wanted to welcome our new commissioner

and also just mention a couple of things

that I think are really connected to what we do.

I didn't realize until you called out our next meeting

that our vice mayor's town hall,

annual town hall is the same day.

So I am on, I have a conflict of,

I'm going to decide and I'll let you know about our next meeting because I know how important that was.

It was a really powerful meeting last year, and I think that this year, given our climate, will probably be even more important.

In the February newsletter, there were two things, and I sent them to you, Mr. Gratham, if you want to include them in the minutes or the report because there's a link.

But there were two pieces that I thought were really important to this room and the people that we represent.

There's a community survey that's open now, and it closes on February 13th through the city of Sacramento.

And it says they want to hear your thoughts on various services programs and understand what's working and what needs improvement.

It goes on and describes more about the survey.

but it closes February 13th and I think that it I haven't opened it to read the survey questions

but it's potentially another place for either us or those folks that we support and represent to

get their voices out so I sent you that information and link and then the vision zero project has a

survey out as well. And I know that most of us are familiar with that and again haven't

got to open the survey. I just got this email yesterday. But just two important links that

I think really matter to this the DAC. Thank you Commissioner Patel. Vice Chair Ellis.

Yeah, I just wanted to circle back and clarify my comments from earlier.

First, Commissioner Pullen, welcome.

Sorry.

And then two, I appreciate the fact that you bring it up.

That wasn't really the awkwardness for me.

It's the fact that you had to.

And in my opinion, you shouldn't have had to.

You should have had the accommodation, is my opinion.

So that's what I'm hoping going forward.

And to Jesse's point, a lot of what you've brought up is exactly what we're trying to do.

And so I love your passion and your energy.

We need it.

So, yeah, a lot of what you've mentioned has been talked about many, many, many times.

And hopefully we can get there.

I don't know.

But, yeah, definitely love the new energy.

So it's kind of like when sitting here getting like, yeah, we need it.

We need it.

And we're over here, like talked about it so many times and I'm kind of jaded.

And then you come in like a breath of fresh air.

So thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair Ellis.

Commissioner Barnbaum.

Yeah.

So I hear and I feel the passion that our new commissioner, Paulin, has on the topics she brought up.

And it seems to me that the concerns addressed are very deep and in her passion.

And I would like to, I don't know if the word suggest is right, but maybe make an urgent motion that this commission address the Metropolitan Cable Television Commission and Metro Cable Channel 14.

I think that the issue might be over there quite possibly when it comes to providing accessible captioning for local meetings on that channel.

um many times on on my remote just on standard broadcast channels i have the option to select

closed captioning for anything i'm watching um and i know most anyone else does but i think that

that channel uh has brought some difficulties and thank you for bringing that to our attention

this evening. I know the attorney is just two seats away from me. We normally cannot take

action on anything not on the agenda unless it's under a major sense of urgency or there's

an emergency that it has to be done as soon as possible. And I think that these matters that

have been brought to our attention are perhaps to that level. So yes, I would like to make a motion

that the Cable Television Commission slash Metro Cable Channel 14 be contacted immediately at the

start of business tomorrow so that we could start the process to rectify this issue as soon as

possible. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner

Barnbaum. Is this something that we can take a

vote on? Yeah, so as Commissioner Barnbaum

stated, there is no motion, there's no report

on the agenda.

I did want to clarify

I don't believe these meetings are televised on

Yeah, they're just online.

Yeah, they're just online.

So, you know, in terms of the closed captioning functionality,

I know that's something the clerk's office has dealt with.

And I don't know.

Yes, hi, Haley with the clerk's office.

It's through a company called Granicus, as you mentioned.

And perhaps it's something that could go on the follow-up blog.

I am not part of the contracting team with our service, but I do know that in the middle of this year or so,

we are going to be transitioning per state legislation related to accessibility.

And so perhaps that could be something that we connect the city clerk's office with this commission on.

Again, I don't get to make those decisions, but if that's something you're interested in, you could work with Mr. Gotham and perhaps our office.

Again, those things are in the works.

It's per state legislation, and there are a lot of things that go into it, including certain types of updates to how people can make public comment and things like that.

But that could be an option.

Yes, I think that's a good option.

I'll add it to the follow-up log.

Yep.

Okay, but at least in terms of the nature of how urgent this is and the way it was brought up to us tonight, what means necessary do we have to contact the Cable Commission and staff at Channel 14 to get things on captioning, whether we're just online or something is broadcast live and rebroadcast over the weekend?

I think the staff is going to work on it.

We're not, this commission meeting doesn't go on regular television.

It's just on the city website.

So they're, yeah, the clerk's office and Jesse are going to work together.

And we will probably have something on the follow-up log in March.

Okay.

All right.

And Commissioner Pollin, thank you for bringing that up.

Yeah.

Thank you so very much.

Thank you so very much, Commissioner Bonbon.

I think this is something that we really do need to focus on.

I believe it's been a little too long for us to go without this accessibility.

It leaves out a good portion of the community

and leaves them uninformed about what we're doing

and what the city is doing.

So I believe this should be one of our top priorities

coming in the next follow-up blog.

Commissioner Wilson.

So I just want to write out that resources for connected living is hosting an event for the Vision Zero project.

We just got it scheduled today.

So it's going to be for February 27th.

They've extended the event period so that we can do a hybrid event.

got a

got a

RAL

and we're

going to

just get

a beat

from

11 a.m.

to 11

30 p.m.

and we're

going to

be sending

out details

for that

event

because

it's

Friday

evening

so I

just want

to let

everybody

know that

they're

invited to

and we'd

love to

hear your

voice

so thank

you

Thank you so very much, Commissioner Wilson.

Vice Chair Ellis.

Oh, I'm good.

Oh, well, I was still on there.

Sorry.

That's okay.

Commissioner Pollan.

Hi again.

So I would, I completely understand, specifically with contracts and procuring, I know that there's a lot that goes into what type of company that gets used.

And that's not something that any individual, even staffer, can say.

There's a lot that goes into that.

What I might suggest that's a rather easy fix, at least for the moment.

At any moment, there are plenty of virtual captioning agencies that can Zoom in and literally do open captions for all our meetings.

And in the same way as having a PowerPoint that gets put up and the broadcasting has that ability, there's quite easy, it doesn't even have to be somebody here.

And they're relatively cheap when they're licensed.

And you can just have a captioner that is captioning, at least for these meetings, as soon as next month.

I mean, it's a relatively easy fix in that regard.

Now, obviously, that's out of my purview as an individual commissioner to argue for,

but just understanding that even if Granicus doesn't have the ability to be captioned,

that doesn't mean that the city doesn't right now.

So that's another sort of option that's, in fact, more accessible

because it's open captions and not closed captions, which the type of captions that would be on the TV are.

And a lot better for individuals as well who that type of transcript can be available directly from,

as the stenographer is doing it, they make a transcript.

That transcript can be put in online just as a PDF that is also accessible for deafblind individuals as well.

And so that's a more accessible way that's probably cheaper than doing a whole new procurement of a whole separate online situation that at least our meetings can be accessible.

So that's a suggestion, not necessarily a request.

Thank you so very much, Commissioner Patel.

Commissioner Patel?

I think we have a question at the same time.

I was just gonna share,

the organization does have that ability.

It's an additional cost.

So I'm gonna draw some assumptions

that our city contract doesn't have that additional feature.

And I think that the short term solution makes sense,

but if a new contract or an addendum,

because we do contracts, I'm going to guess annually, I don't know how often those contracts go.

But those master agreements or an addendum to it, it would actually open a door to all meetings,

not just ours, which is our purpose. I think I always look at technology and I'm like,

why would it not when it is this big of an umbrella? Their website says that it's 98% accurate.

I think there's some efficacy.

I can assume the city wants to make sure that those words are really the words we're speaking.

And so I wonder just sharing that information as our team goes off and kind of explores if they're like, oh, no, we don't have that sharing.

The organization does offer that.

It's an additional fee, as most things are.

And so if not now, you know, long-term, easy solution.

that isn't another person's, doesn't add another job for someone.

It's done for everybody.

Thank you, Commissioner Patel.

Commissioner Knapper.

Thank you, Commissioners, for this quick discussion.

I hear you around the contracting pieces.

Thank you, Commissioner Pullen, for letting us know what is available

and pretty rarely available.

Even if there's a cost associated with it and to hopefully prevent the procurement process,

this should be a reasonable accommodation. So hopefully when negotiating, dear city,

for this to happen for this commission to model this as a reasonable accommodation might not be

a bad idea. It may help us overcome any barriers to make it happen sooner than later.

Thank you. Thank you Commissioner Knapper. Let's see if there are any commissioners who

wish to continue speaking on this item. I think we can move on to public comment. Clerk

are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item?

I do not have any speaker slips for public comment matters not on the agenda.

Thank you.

And again, I would like all of us to try and work out a solution for the closed captioning.

Like I said, this is very important as it helps connect members of the community together,

especially those who might have disabilities or hardships with just tuning in and listening

and leaves a majority of them out. So I would like all of us to get together on the follow

up blog and put that in and send a request or do what we can to fix this. As of that,

I believe there are no more items on the agenda

so we can bring this meeting to a close.

Thank you so very much to the public

and to the commissioners for attending and attending.

This meeting is now adjourned.

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