Good evening.

I'm going to call to order the um meeting of the City of Sacramento Disability Advisory Commission for Wednesday, June 3rd.

What's my the pledge and land acknowledgement?

Yeah, we can do the role first.

Oh, roll call.

Okay.

Thank you.

Sorry.

It's been a minute since I've chaired these.

Clerk, can you please call the roll?

Yes, thank you, Vice Chair.

Commissioners, if you can all please unmute your microphones for roll call.

Commissioner Greenbaum is absent.

Commissioner Barnbaum?

Here.

Commissioner Patel.

Here.

Commissioner Guerrero is currently absent.

Commissioner Wilson?

Here.

Commissioner Dyson is absent.

Commissioner Knapper?

Here.

Commissioner Polan.

Here.

Commissioner Iguigbe is absent.

Commissioner Carr is absent.

Chair Kramer is also absent.

And Vice Chair Ellis.

Present.

Thank you.

We have a quorum.

Thank you, Clerk.

Will everyone please rise if you are able for the land acknowledgement, which will be read by uh Commissioner Barnbaum.

Thank you, everyone.

Please rise.

Please rise for the opening acknowledgments in honor of Sacramento's indigenous people and tribal lands to the original people of this land, the Nissanon people, the Southern Maidu, Valley and Plains, Miwok, Patwin Wintune peoples, and the people of the Wilton Rancheria, Sacramento's only federally recognized tribe.

May we acknowledge and honor the native people who came before us and still walk beside us today on these ancestral lands by choosing to gather together today in the active practice of acknowledgment and appreciation for Sacramento's indigenous people's history, contributions, and lives.

Thank you.

Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.

One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you.

You may be seated.

So um our first item on the agenda is the consent calendar.

Do I have a motion to approve the consent calendar?

Mr.

Vice Chair, I uh Commissioner Barnbaum make a motion to approve the consent uh calendar as written by staff.

Is there a second?

Vice Chair, may I?

Sure.

Yes.

Uh Commissioner Napper.

Sure.

Pull in.

Sorry.

I should say my name.

I'd like to pull item two for the follow-up log from the consent calendar.

Sure.

We can take them the I each item separately.

So I will accept the friendly amendment to pull the follow-up log by request of Commissioner Pulland.

Sounds good.

So this first motion is just to approve the minutes.

Is there a second?

I'll second.

Second.

Um we can just do a voice voice vote.

Okay, all those in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

All those opposed.

Abstentions?

Unanimous.

Is there a motion to approve the follow-up log?

Oh, isn't it current on the follow-up log?

Sorry, discussion on the follow-up log.

Commissioner Pullen.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Uh, I pulled item two because the follow-up log is the mechanism by which this commission places items on future agendas and tracks the status of our recommendations.

Approving it on consent without comment makes its current dispositions our record.

I wanted to focus on recommendations six, seven, and eight from the 2024 annual report, which is the DEIB training update, the RGEAP revision, and the Racial Equity Committee presentation.

On recommendation eight, the log correctly reflects that this commission presented to the Racial Equity Committee on October 21st, 2025.

That part is done.

But for recommendations six and seven, the log shows not implemented, and the only update in the staff status column is that we presented at the REC meeting, which isn't a staff update or status update, rather, it's a trigger event for what should have followed.

Three things have happened since that October 21st that should be in this log and aren't.

First, at that meeting, the then interim city manager Milstein committed that phase two of the mandatory DEI training would include disability content and that future phase one makeup sessions would as well.

That commitment isn't reflected in the log.

And then phase two procurement procurement is currently titled Mandatory Racial Equity Training, not Mandatory DEI B training.

So whether that uh request for proposal scope language honors this October commitment or not is a live question that I think we should uh address.

And then second, uh, the diversity and equity manager stated that the ODE convened in September 2025 to develop a results-based accountability framework, and that she's open to reimagining uh the thing that we are uh recommending to include disability using that framework, um, but it expires this year.

Uh also council member Vang encouraged this commission, the DAC and the ODE to correct connect directly on that work, and none of that is in the log.

And then finally, uh the workplace uh diversity and salary trends audit was heard at budget and audit on May 26th.

Uh 206 pages, zero mentions of disability.

Uh the audit doesn't engage recommendation seven, uh, and that isn't referenced in the log either.

So under Rule 17B of council rules and procedures, the follow-up log is required to include estimated agenda date or disposition of each item.

So I'd like to request on the record that the next version of this log include status from the three offices on recommendations six and seven, from human resources on phase two training, scope language and whether it requires disability awareness content from ODE on the RGEAP successor framing, and then from the Office of the City Auditor on the scope of the workforce diversity audit.

With those requests on the record, I will support approving the log.

Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner.

The record shall so reflect, and I believe staff can move forward accordingly.

Any other um discussion on the follow-up log?

Seeing none, is there a motion?

I'll move to approve.

My commissioner Pullen, is there a second?

I'll second that motion.

So seconded.

Um, do a voice vote.

Uh all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

I.

All those opposed.

Abstentions?

Unanimous.

And for the record, there were no public comments on the consent.

On the consent call.

Okay, thank you.

Uh, we're gonna take a couple items out of order on our agenda.

Instead of moving into the discussion calendar, we're gonna take up the staff report.

So I'm gonna turn it over to Jesse for the staff oral report.

Thank you, Vice Chair Ellis.

Um, for our project updates.

Uh Stephanie Seiss inform me we have no updates this meeting.

But we do have some special guests.

Uh so Jennifer Dahlin Wyatt is here and Erica Galang.

Allow them to introduce themselves and report back on um some topics that have come up and some of our project reviews on the topic of scooters.

So, with that, I'll hand it over to these two.

Great.

Thanks.

Jesse, Vice Chair Ellis and Commissioners.

I'm Jennifer Donlin Wyatt.

I serve our city as division manager for mobility and sustainability within the public works department, and with me is Erica.

Hi, I'm Erica Gillang.

I am the section manager at the mobility parking and curb management uh section, and our team focuses on the shared writables and mobility.

Great.

So Erica is new to our division and our team, and I heard that you all had some comments and questions on the scooter.

So I thought I would just come give a quick update, get a feel for where you're at and see what we can do for next steps.

So our team manages the policy and the permitting program for shared rideables, otherwise known as shared scooters or shared bikes.

We come to the DAC with any time we have an update to our regulatory framework.

So I think we've been here at least three or four times because we've had three or four updates to the regulatory practices that we had.

It's been a couple of years since we updated them, though we will be, it's in our work plan to update them again.

Scooters being parked on sidewalks and then people scooting on sidewalks.

Want to share that scooting on sidewalks is prohibited by California law.

It's not even our regulatory framework.

It is the state that prohibits that.

Enforcement of those regulations are through the police department.

However, through our regulatory policy, what we have enacted are a couple of things.

We require that all scooters have stickers on them that say no scooting on sidewalks so that users understand that they're not supposed to.

We also require that the operators do education to their customers so that they know that they are not supposed to scoot on sidewalks.

Um another issue that I understand that you have and that you face is something that we've been working on, is um scooters parked blocking accessible paths of travel.

Um that is prohibited by the city regulatory framework and of course by federal ADA requirements.

Um we have one, like all we also require that scooters be parked at either a bike rack or a drop zone.

That is city requirements.

We have partnered with a separate division, our parking division, our parking enforcement officers, issue citations for scooters that block an accessible path of travel.

So if it blocks a curb ramp, any part of a sidewalk, any those sort of areas, there is a $15 citation plus 1250 state fees that we issue to the company because we can't know who parked the device, and that we require the company then pass on that citation to the person who parked it because they will.

Excuse me, is this an agendized item?

It's under the staff oral report.

This isn't an oral report.

This is a this is the much detail?

This is the equivalent of an agendized item.

This should be agendized as a separate item.

Okay, well, maybe we can just summarize it with just what the California law is and the well.

I think you would need to bring this back as a separate agendized item.

Oh, my point of my question would be is what does the commission want to hear on?

So I can know who is the appropriate entity to bring back.

Because if it's around enforcement, that's not my team.

We set up the policies and procedures.

Enforcement is through either the parking division within public works or through the police department.

Well, that seems like that would be something to talk to Mr.

Gotham about what would be an appropriate agenda item to bring back.

Okay.

Can we at least allow the commissioners to at least kind of give staff a little bit of direction to bring back an item?

This is this is the equivalent of an agendized item.

This needs to be brought back as an agendized item.

Okay.

Mr.

Vice Chair, yes.

Per the advice of the attorney uh of the commission.

Uh, I would make a motion to place this on the agenda for Wednesday, August 5th.

Yeah, we can so direct staff to bring it back.

Well, why don't we uh with the direction from the city attorney?

I do apologize to my colleagues for coming.

We're glad to be here.

And we'll we'll bring this back at a future um a future agenda for a little more robust discussion.

But maybe in the meantime I can work with um Jennifer and Erica on um just uh the NUM Vice Chair Ellis on just the specific topic.

Yeah, and try to formalize an agenda item.

Yeah, okay.

Absolutely my apologies.

Thank you for coming.

Thank you for coming.

We really do appreciate it.

We love coming to the DAC.

We're happy to be uh come before you.

We've come before every iteration of our regulatory update.

Thank you.

We'll come again.

Thank you.

Oh, sorry.

You didn't do it.

Okay, thank you.

Did you have anything else as part of your oral report, Josie?

Um, no, no, I don't.

So then we can move in to the discussion um uh calendar.

We did the follow-up.

Item number three.

So the item number three is our recommendation for a from our annual report for a um uh citywide uh accessibility coordinator position.

And I believe Jesse, this is your item that you're presenting on.

I thought I'd come down here.

Um so yeah, this and I want to invite our division manager, Ophelia Abelos, come down and join me.

Um but we wanted to give an opportunity to discuss the disposition of this recommendation that the Disabilities Advisory Commission has put a lot of work into.

And just for the record, it's to prioritize the reinstatement of the citywide ADA coordinator position in the next budget cycle.

This position would enhance ADA programs citywide, collaborate with internal and external stakeholders, coordinate ADA activities, and provide leadership to advance the city's commitment to a strong and effective ADA program.

The ADA coordinator would serve as the city spokesperson on ADA issues, staff the disabilities advisory commission, bring forward at least one item annually under each of the commission's powers and duties, and recommend ADA related policies and programs to the city council and city manager.

This position does not currently exist in the city's salary schedule or classification system.

And so this was heard by the commission recommended on January 14th of this year, and it went before the personnel and public employee committee on February 24th, and they uh recommended that it go to the budget and audit committee for consideration, and this was heard by the budget and audit committee on May 5th, and City Council did approve the annual report on March uh 24th.

And so there was discussion at the committee meetings, and um we did we want to acknowledge though that the position was not established in the current budget, and so our understanding is that you know the rationale of that is that each department has subject matter experts and within parks, within public works, public works hosts the commission, and we bring our items before uh the commission for review and comment.

And so I just want to give this opportunity to rehearse the history of kind of where we've been this year and then offer the commission the opportunity to discuss the item, and then also um my division manager, Ophelia Abelos is here also to um give any any additional feedback from staff.

So maybe with that I'll just turn it back over to you, Vice Chair.

Sounds good.

Yeah, um, I think you recap kind of the history of this position uh pretty well.

It's been in the last three or four annual reports, uh, but this was the first time that the city council pulled it out of the report and referred it to budget and audit, and I think that was a huge move, but again, it didn't get across the finish line, so um, but I'll open it up to uh the rest of the commissioners for any kind of comment, discussion, or questions.

Uh Commissioner Pullen.

Hi, Jesse.

Um thank you, Chair or Vice Chair.

Uh so I do have a few questions on this item, so I will pause after each.

Um, so first, just on the research uh process for tonight's report.

Um, I I went and reviewed uh all the publicly available records related to the term ADA coordinator in the city of Sacramento, um, and I didn't find any council action removing the position, but the public record names at least five ADA coordinators or ADA managers, including citywide, going back to 2003, which is Michael Whipple, Rocky Burks, Michael Peravagna, Neil Alberton, and Jamie Kinney.

And then in 2016 and 17, the budget documents the transfer of one FTE program specialist position from HR to public works to support the ADA program.

And the transfer represented a hundred and twenty-four thousand dollar reduction in human resources expenditure for risk management administration.

So the position was funded, and then it was moved.

Again, this was in 2017, moved, not eliminated.

And so it was funded by the risk management administration.

So my question is in preparing tonight's report, did staff examine the historical ADA coordinator function in that transfer?

And do you know where that program specialist?

I know the report says that it's a that you're requesting a program manager classification, but upon information and belief the previous ADA coordinators were under the classification of specialist.

So I'm just curious whether that remains in public works budget?

Is it absorbed into other duties?

What happened to that?

So in researching what this position would entail as a citywide coordinator, I coordinated with HR and labor relations, and they said a program manager position would be most comparable if it were established.

As to the history of the program specialist, the various staff who have occupied that position, I believe, were a program specialist in the public works department and provided guidance on accessibility is related to improvements in the public right-of-way.

Since then, I serve as that as well as the senior engineers who come and present projects to the DAC on accessibility in the public right-away were the subject matter experts, as long along with our electrical engineers.

But as to how that position has changed, I can't really speak to that in terms of uh what happened to in the budget cycle for the program specialist position.

Um sort of this report, because specifically this report says that it doesn't exist in the cloud the salary classification, right?

And so you're creating it.

The citywide one, right?

The city, as I understand, the citywide ADA coordinator position as envisioned, would be a program manager in the city manager's office, and that does not exist currently.

Okay.

Um the response from city council is that it's a budget issue.

Is that correct?

I don't know how to speak to that, honestly.

Yeah, I would I would say that that would be my interpretation of what was said more or less.

I mean, they didn't specifically you know disapprove of it, it just wasn't included in the budget.

Okay, yeah, I mean, I'm I'm really cons I'm really interested rather in that $200,000.

Um I understand that when talking with labor relations and things like that, you're asking for a program manager.

I completely understand.

I think I I can speak for myself.

I feel like the commission would definitely prefer an ADA coordinator be a program manager that has the teeth to make things happen.

But if we are sort of begging for scraps, um wouldn't it make more sense to rather reinstate what the city already has the mechanisms around than try to um argue for a brand new position, especially in a deficit?

What was the I guess the question is, what is the um what is the determination between making it a manager versus a more comparable 160,000 if we're begging for money?

I think I would go ahead, Jesse.

Well, I think I would say that we we cover it within the department right now and public works, but as as the recommendation put forward, how does that work in in human in HR and in labor relations?

It would be a program manager position.

So maybe I'm not following the question, but I believe I believe it's so so I think if it went back to public works, we're we're managing that with our with our staff with that, but we don't have the program special.

I the way I understand the question is that we're asking for position A, and we we in the historically we had position B, right?

And so can we can we ask for position B?

Would it be more successful to ask for position B versus position A, which is you know, the program specialist versus you know, the program manager.

I don't think that's I don't see that as the issue, and this is my interpretation of what happened with this.

It's not it's not the city saying it, it's just what I'm viewing as being an attendant at the meetings.

I don't think it's a matter of um what type of position it is that that's like a that's something that we can clarify in the future, it's getting an approval for the concept of an overall citywide ADA coordinator because I've the feedback that I have received um, you know, is that we are um doing our best to address ADA um in each of the respective divisions, that an uh a total ADA coordinator is not a specialist in a parks project and a uh you know, a roadway project and a facilities building, so that if we um if we share that responsibility of making sure that all of the ADA requirements are being met in all of those specific technical areas, and um that those are the best folks to incorporate those improvements, ADA improvements following the laws that are given.

And so an ADA coordinator would not be able to provide the technical guidance as a city overall because we we expand over a uh various technical fields that are very specialized, and so that's that's the that's my understanding of why an aid, you know, spreading that to the specific departments into everyone doing that work and making sure that all of the ADA compliance is in the is in our documents, is on our plans, it's within our roadways, it's within our policies, even IT, you know, there's there's there's there are um things that they need to um that they need to do with with a deadline with the California laws too that they need to abide by so they're the ones we can't advise them how to do that.

We can they know what the law is and they have to figure out a way of doing it, and they're specialized in the IT programs, and so that's that's just an example I'm using.

So what um so by sharing the the responsibility of ADA throughout the city and incorporating it into our technical documents that that's the best way that we can reach this, you know, reach the goals of of um of getting ADA compliance and within the city.

So do the program manager, so you're saying that the program manager I'm not comparing the program manager with the program specialist.

I think that's just a nuisance with with what we call what the position is.

I think that just having an overall position is what I didn't, I didn't see a lot of support for an overall position.

For ADA overall position.

I didn't see that in any of the council meetings, you know, it didn't come through, like and there was no champion coming behind that saying, yeah, we need this.

It didn't it didn't come in through any of the memos that the council members um submitted to to the mayor.

So I didn't see the support.

And when asking a um when asking um what why did why why you know why do you think we didn't get the support we needed?

The council, you know, the the feedback that I received was we are there's too many specialties that one person can't help out with.

And I I would agree with you, I think that is a fairer characterization of what occurred.

That while our proposal did get referred to full council, it did, that's why it didn't end up as a priority in the budget, is that's kind of where it landed, is it didn't then become part of the budget process in that it didn't become a priority in those memo documents and with the work between the mayor and the city manager, and I believe kind of the view from the city manager's point of view is they are that coordinating function across all the departments.

Whether that's effective or whether we agree with that, I think that's that's yeah, that's just the point we disagree.

Right, that's just the few that you so that's so.

Then the report is not that there's no funding identified, it's that there's no support.

Is that what you're saying?

No, that's not what I'm saying.

Um what I'm what I'm saying is that there was no funding identified.

So but your question was not about the funding.

Your question was about the difference in the position.

What I'm saying is that I don't think the it's it's not right now.

It's we're not, we're not asking about, I don't think the nuances is in the is in the position name, it's in the actual getting an additional position for that in the city manager's office.

And I have the position at all, yeah.

Yeah, whether we have a position or not have a position.

Okay, any other comments?

I'll let that sit.

Okay.

Uh Commissioner Wilson.

Crossfire, Crusher.

So good.

Sorry.

Cause it covers.

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Cross.

So let's go to the next commercial.

Okay, thank you.

Uh Commissioner Knapper.

Yes, thank you.

Um, thank you for coming.

Um I love all of what um Commissioner Pullin' stated.

Thank you.

Is this currently under the role of the city manager?

Is that what I heard, Chair uh Vice Chair Ellis?

I'm sorry, can you say that?

Did you say that the role that Jessia is currently under the city manager?

No, okay.

So it's to create the create the role within the city manager's office, and and the role is not to be in the nuance or the tech tech you know, the technical nuances per city department, right?

There's ADA coordinators or whatever their titles are there, the position name.

So the position name would be the the um ADA program manager within the city manager's office, and they would have the citywide oversight to support all of the work that makes some kind of oversight and making sure everybody's following the rules and projects are moving along accordingly, according to ADA, etc.

So this is a this is a broader role, right?

That's what the ask was, yeah.

So it's not to get in, it's not to talking about the not to be so worried about the nuances of you know program specialist or program manager, yeah.

But it's it's a new position in the city manager's office, is what the request was, right?

Correct.

So the role of the um Commissioner Colin Poland, may I ask a clarifying question if I may?

Absolutely.

But you lifted up, I'm not sure.

Were you looking at that?

Maybe um there was an a position existing, and and that position is there a bit vacant.

So what I what I was specifically mentioning about I think we got off track with the idea of specialist versus manager.

My argument was if what we're being told is there's not enough funding, that asking for the bigger position is probably politically a harder ask than saying, Hey, we already had this throughout the years, we want it back.

Now it was never removed.

The people that were there just retired.

So that was my question about has it been absorbed to anything?

And it was just a previous program specialist.

And I think the my specific question was if it's just about budget, then why the program manager at the 200,000?

Because that's a harder ask.

But two, if the now I'm getting that everybody we're back at the everybody thing that we all have our role to play, which defeats the purpose of the recommendation.

So that's what I was confused about.

I agree, and I thank you for lifting up your question.

Is that role vacant?

And then the other is um, is it a role if it is vacant that could easily be moved over to the city manager's office?

Anyway, I know it's not a it can answer that question now, but I I think I hear what um is saying and I I have the similar concerns from HR to public work we can move on.

I don't disagree, but um thank you for thank you.

I guess I look up to a follow-up at some point.

Yeah, my guess is on the yeah, go ahead, Jesse.

On the question of yeah, is it a role that I the perspective I believe the perspective of the the city managers and maybe it's I'm restating it, um, and you all understand, is that there's the the responsibilities of the accessibility uh reviews and implementation are being handled by the departments, and there's maybe not much in addition that this role would add to what public works Yipsey facilities are currently are currently doing.

So I think maybe that's that's maybe that's the rub.

And so um uh it yeah, so and then it and then would it create maybe some um overlap, right?

If if human resources is managing the accommodations, you know, for all city employees.

What would a program manager with um as a citywide ADA coordinator um assist that and so maybe it's kind of like what you're saying, just maybe supporting each department in their roles.

Um, yeah, that's that's I mean that that's yeah, there's two different things here.

That's the way it was.

Is your question is where's the position now and what happened to it?

We I don't we don't know, I don't know that yet.

I don't know at this time.

I would have to go back and follow that position in in our records and and figure out where that is because I wouldn't be able to um I mean I I got here four years ago and there was no ADA that position was not there in my division, so I would have to follow where that would be, you know, uh check in with HR and see that is so my guess is I don't have an answer for that.

Yeah, what probably my guess is what probably happened is from what just the history of me being on this dias, is those duties kind of got spread across multiple positions.

So the position is probably still within public works doing a portion of this, but it's spread across, you know, several other roles within, I would guess.

And I I was on the commission 10 years ago when it was under HR, and it it it was a very different time, I'll just say, in comparison to where we are now.

So I think that's something to kind of keep in mind too.

That you know, is this what we wanted it to be?

And I think also I'll just take a point of privilege as the chair.

Uh, I think this is some food for thought uh for us to kind of ruminate about over the next several months as we go into doing our annual report for next year, is I think there may be we may need to reframe this ask in a different way for it to better resonate with the city council.

If this is our, you know, uh I think this is a learning opportunity to see what we got, and then kind of going from there, and maybe we need to reframe it in the next report, um, taking into account some of the history.

Um, do we have any other speakers?

Uh yeah.

Uh Commissioner Tantel.

The way that I think I understand the role that we were hoping to see.

Um, I I have a wondering.

Um, you know, I think we sit on this commission and we look at projects often.

So it sounds like potentially a role existed in a different way slightly, and then it disseminated.

So lots of people are are touching it.

And I I think what what it feels like often, I know things in the city move slowly, and I think when I first stepped on here, I was a little bit like, oh, we're looking at something for 2028.

Okay, getting my head around the pace of things.

Um, but I I think it feels sometimes like one of those bikes where you put like 20 people on them and everybody's pedaling.

Some people are pedaling different directions and the bike never moves, and then when you finally get everybody going, it still takes a while to get it moving.

And I think that the purpose of this position is to have someone shove that bike along.

Um I have a wondering, I think that some of the things that come forward to us.

I remember um one of my early meetings when I first joined the DAC, there was a pretty new intersection that we were looking at because it needed re refurbed.

And I'm like, What how did how did that go wrong?

And um, and so I think about like the cost to go fix the problem because it was done wrong, is so much city money, so much city time, so which time is money, so much city planning, and it feels a little bit like our bike, we're we're all pedaling on this deck in the same direction, but we don't get very far because we're we're we're in the business a little bit of fixing existing problems that someone put in wrong.

And so if we think of if we think of the last 10 years, there's not been this position.

Well, we're we're fixing all the things that went wrong, and so we're not moving forward, and I think some of the dreams I know um Doris came to us, and she's this like one man one woman uh planned a little side project that she wants to make our city events more accessible.

Um, our city has hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of events.

I was actually just at one, and there was a little ramp, and I was so excited, but that little ramp led on Capitol Mall to a big grassy patch and was like, cool, we can get up.

We can't get anywhere else because we only got halfway.

This position's purpose is to move us forward instead of keeping us stalled.

And so I really wonder if the some of the work we do is to go back really diligently, and if we can get if we can find specific projects and list them that were done, projects that were created in the last 10 years, and then the city went back and paid hundreds and hundreds of thousand dollars to fix it to make it more ADA compliant, and if we could throw that money forward, I bet it is more than 10 years times 200,000 over the 10 years, and maybe showing that we are trying to get stop putting out fires and start planning in a preventative fashion, maybe if we can show that through the actual dollars the city has spent in the time that this position has not been available, maybe that is what the city needs to see the value.

I would like to propose something I would like I I know I would like to get what we're reporting what Jesse and I are reporting today are just um perceptions from what we were at the council meetings and and from what we've heard but I'd like to really go back and do a follow up on this item to go talk to our leadership and get you know um and get more direction on on you know what their their official thoughts were of why we didn't get this position so I would recommend us to come back and do a follow up on this item if that's okay.

Yeah I think so and I think in that you know in in this like curiosity piece that I have I we are one of the few cities that has this and so there are dreaming things such there are great ideas I sat down with Doris and had some great like ideas but without this position you can't get past the like fix the problems that exist that we already spent a bunch of money and did it wrong and so I think um maybe also just if I may like maybe we in our report need to put in some of those bigger dreams that one of the things I said is why is the city spending tons why why would we propose um why would we propose for every city event to have to pay for these ramps why doesn't the city just buy them themselves and you rent the instead of the third party how much money are you paying for 700 events a year.

But things like that can't happen if you don't have someone at the top really coordinating through and there are ways to save the city money by providing a position that that focuses on that while still us being maybe one of the forefront tiers that people look at and say look what Sacramento is doing different than everyone else in this world.

Yeah I mean I just want to say it's it's really striking to me that disabled people are saying we need this and non-disabled people are saying that's not best for you.

This commission is for disabled people written in the bylaws to discuss and advise to the city council to the city manager to the city what disabled people in the city need.

And if now I'm finding first in that report it doesn't say there wasn't support that's not what this report said it's just said that the no funding was identified.

So when I say well look there's ways we could fund it through risk management it was already funded through rich management and Eric Guerra specifically said at that city council meeting hey staff have we considered looking at the liability or the self-insurance does having an ADA coordinator save us money on insurance he brought that up I haven't heard any any response to that or looking into that at all so just to say hey there's no funding and then when it's you come before us and then suddenly it's well the city manager doesn't like it because it overlaps that's a completely different framing than what the report and what I read and prepared for earlier is and so I'm a little taken aback by by that.

And I completely agree with uh Commissioner Patel about you know maybe we and and uh Vice Chair Ellis if this is what the city says then our recommendations cannot just be we want an ADA coordinator now it the onus seems to be on us to tell them why they need an ADA coordinator not a recommendation.

It seems to be that the onus is on us to do the research, to do the reports, and to argue rather than advise.

So I'm I'm definitely, I think a follow-up is absolutely necessary.

There has been a citywide ADA coordinator that is called a citywide ADA coordinator that advises citywide that was just a program specialist.

So that did happen before.

Whether it's successful or not, that's that's a completely different thing.

But to say this didn't exist, this didn't happen, we didn't have it now.

We're asking for this, is uh public recordly not where we should be.

So I I really I would like to um ask vice chair if we could definitely put this on um future agendas and really get to the bottom of what this position is and what the city thinks of it because this is fascinating to me.

Thank you very much.

Yeah, I think we can do that.

Um Commissioner Barnbaum.

Yes, uh, so I want to go on record and and agree with the fellow commissioners that have spoken before me.

Uh Commissioner Paul and uh Patel and Vice Chair Ellis um in regards to uh this topic in front of us.

Um, to the point made, yes, you know, we need to be a strong voice, a strong united voice, that we are the commission uh that needs to put at the forefront individuals with disabilities first, and the uh argument is very much there, that there needs to be uh an ADA coordinator that we just not advocate for it, but argue for it uh and get the necessary votes uh that we so need for it.

Uh and I'll just close to say that one of those votes uh happens to be uh evaluating us right now in person.

If you look to the far corner of your left shoulder, like to recognize council member Phil Plucky Baum in the audience today.

Thank you.

Uh thank you, Commissioner Barnbaum.

Yeah.

Uh Commissioner Wilson.

I've got uh cut everybody called us uh to tell us to say to that uh disability, community, preservus, people, to get uh suggestion, coverage, because uh could require it.

Cause it's a credit disability, give it a career true, because it's priority, it's sort of uh side project.

Take care.

Thank you.

Uh thank you, Jesse.

Thank you, we appreciate all of your work.

All right, good discussion.

I'll just close um by saying, you know, this has been it's been an ask of the commission in a number of our reports, and it's it's a coordinating function that I think we think the city is lacking.

And at least when I rejoined uh the commission a couple years ago, and this was in the reports, and we were pushing for it.

I viewed it uh similar to a role at the University of California.

Um, I right before I came back to the DAC, I had had the privilege of serving on the Board of Regents, and the UC created a system-wide Office of Civil Rights.

Um, and there were several different roles in there, and one of them was disability rights.

And the university was moving in this direction of they hadn't had this type of coordinating role across the entire university, and that's what it was.

It was a it wasn't they weren't gonna just do like reasonable accommodations and that HR function.

That thing that was still going to exist.

This was going to be, you know, it's a vast enterprise, just like the city is, and it's a coordinating function that we're asking for.

Like we're saying, there are all these specialists in the different departments in public works, in IT, in HR, that do a component of this accessibility work, but where we're seeing some fragmentation, isn't there isn't a point person to kind of ensure all these things are moving in the same direction, you know, um, and we see some of the disparate issues, the speaker slip issue, the door button issues, and it's something at a level where the city is taking it seriously enough because there is somebody at a high enough authority to get it done and to work through a lot of the issues that we've been raising on this dais.

So that was my hope for this role, it was gonna be a more of a grandiose role to ensure not just ensure compliance with ADA, but ensure we're living up to the principles of inclusion, because I see this in in the work that I do for the state of California at the Department of Rehabilitation.

Yeah, you can be ADA compliant, but if we just did this one extra thing, it would make things so much better.

Like, for example, so I I manage um two inspectors that go out to assess uh ADA compliance for the lotto retailers, and so they have the check a ticket, so you can go up and see if you won the lottery, right?

And we're in there, and we're like, there's this hat rack thing right next to it.

If they had moved the hat rack out of the way, there would be three more feet of clearance.

But technically, by it being there, it's not it's not it's compliant, you it meets the measurements, but it would be sure it would be nice if this thing was not in the way, and we see this all the time in facilities in all over the place.

It's not the built environment necessarily, it's they've put something there.

The scooters are another one, so there's those things that you know.

If we could do just be a little more intentive and be like, let's not do that to ourselves.

So that and somebody's pointing that out, and you know, doing it in a way that yeah, we're compliant, but it would be nice if we just didn't do these things.

So, anyway, that's kind of my my point on this.

Um, but I'll belabor it and I'll move us along to our next.

Oh, some just uh oh, Commissioner Patel, sorry.

I'm probably being redundant too.

Just as I I'm a professor and as I'm processing through what they shared and what was shared what Jesse shared, it sounds and you know, Commissioner Pullen.

I it sounds like it is either of or both.

The issue is maybe we don't have the money or don't want the money to go that direction, or we don't see the purpose or need.

And so I agree with Commissioner Pollen.

We we need to build, we need to research and have this as a discussion item so that we can help ensure that both of those ideas are locked tight.

There is a clear need that is different than what you are doing right now, and hey, we'll save you money.

Cause I actually believe that if we research, we just would probably uncover that.

Uh Commissioner Poland.

I'll I'll just be really quick.

I know we're n at this point we're just saying it in a circle, but I honestly I think it's important to say the words out loud on the record on this dais, because I know all of us commissioners because we are disabled people and we are commissioners, like we all know this.

Um currently, we're saying stuff about like it might be nice.

We're we're compliant, but we could be better.

We're not compliant in some things.

They just approved Granicus for another contract that went through city council, and they were told it's not compliant.

This commission did an official ADA grievance with the city about Granicus, like five years ago or something, and the city clerk responded and said, you know what, you're right, it's not captioned, and it's confusing because there's a logo, so let's remove the logo.

That is not compliant, it's not okay, and because everything's so fragmented, nobody has the exact purview to say that's not okay.

IT can't say it because guess where it goes?

Procurement.

Procurement can say it, but then guess where it goes?

City council.

City council says, Well, we've had it for so long.

I guess we keep going and hope that Granicus fixes it.

And yes, maybe the city could say, hey, Granicus, you must fix it or we will not pay you.

But whose job is that to do that?

IT?

Well, I asked IT.

They said they're a third party.

They are not in charge of Granicus.

That is exactly what this role requires, and the city manager and everybody else does not have the purview or ability to do so.

And so I think it's really important that we are so clear about what this role will do for the city.

This is not even, we are not in the dreaming part right now.

We are in the desperate part.

And that was my point about the specialist, about the manager.

I don't care how it happens, it just has to happen.

And then we can make it better.

We can make a real like the county has a disability compliance office.

Wouldn't that be great?

But we're not in that place yet.

We are just begging.

So I think that's so important that we as a commission are clear about that with the city because the city thinks these subject matter experts are okay, and there is harm happening at this moment.

There's harm.

I just had to be here an hour early to help the city fix their assisted listening devices.

And thank God they did fix it.

But they said to me, well, nobody has really asked for it, and so we've never really checked.

What would an ADA coordinator do?

Oh, wait, check.

That's their job, right?

And of course, IT is not there to check every single time because they have so many other things to do.

That is what the role is.

And so for the city to say we have subject matter experts, I don't think we can allow that when we are not compliant.

It's not working.

That's all.

I'm sorry, I'm I'm yep, that's it.

That's all right.

Thank you, Commissioner Pull.

And I appreciate your passion.

It's definitely needed and dedicated and appreciated.

Okay.

Move on to item number four.

Um, which is uh vision zero uh school safety uh project.

And what is Anthony Grace, thank you.

Good evening, everyone.

My name is Anthony Grace, assistant civil engineer with the engineering section of Department of Public Works.

This is uh my first committee meeting of any kind, so please forgive me if I stumble through this.

Um, I'm here tonight to present on the Vision Zero School Safety Project phase two.

This is a continuation from the Vision Zero School Safety Project, which was built off the Vision Zero School Safety Plan.

Um, which I believe was approved by council in 2020 as the leading plan for 20 school sites in the city of Sacramento.

Um this plan was developed.

With input from school communities?

Do you have a clicker down there?

I don't see anything other than this.

Oh, is this?

Yes, you can navigate with that.

Okay.

I'm gonna turn the screen here so I can actually see it.

Uh the Vision Zero School Safety Plan was developed with input from school communities and city staff as well, included a walkabouts, meetings, discussions on safety concerns.

Um, and ultimately it provided a list of short, medium, and long-term recommendations.

Some were to be handled by the school districts, the schools uh, and then others to be handled by uh other entities within the city, whether it's Department of Public Works or Parking or or who have you.

Um the first project, the Vision Zero School Safety Project is implementing recommendations at seven schools.

That one's getting close to uh close to being listed for construction.

Hopefully, hopefully within the next year, um, finally going to construction after several years of a lot of back and forth on design and and um focusing on on really how to make those school sites uh implement those recommendations as best as possible.

The Vision Zero School Safety Phase 2.

Initially, we were gonna be implementing recommendations at 11 school sites.

One of those schools, Earl Warren Elementary in District 6, has both two projects that would be implementing all the recommendations made in the school safety plan and have no no longer has need to be with this project.

Those two projects, one is with the school district where they're doing a lot of frontage improvement and on-site improvements for the school itself, and then the other project is the Fruit Ridge Road Safety Project.

I'm not quite sure the title of that one, but that one's being managed by uh she left, but Stephanie.

Two of the projects that were initially included in the Vision Zero School Safety Project are also being uh addressed through district-led efforts to make improvements.

Um, and I've heard recently as of today that it sounds like Miwok Middle may be also seeking to make improvements along their frontage.

Uh so I'll be learning more about that and determining if there's things being covered by that project that we will no longer need to cover with our project.

The schools that we are working towards making improvements include H.

Allen Height in District 1, uh North Thomas, Garden Valley Elementary in South Nathomas, Northwood Elementary, I think that's the Del Paso Heights area.

It's kind of at that border.

Mustard Seed School in the River District, Washington Elementary in Midtown, Miwok Middle School in East Sac, Sacramento Charter High School down in South Sack Oak Park area, Brett Hart Elementary in the Curtis Park area, and then two in the South Capital Collegiate Academy and Rio Casadero High School.

The purpose of the project was to improve uh safety and access at schools.

Again, there was a list of recommendations put together, determining uh following the site visits, input from the school communities, technical analysis, there was review, city staff were included.

We had a consultant on board, all kind of working together to really devise how best to address these concerns and make these recommendations to improve the safety and accessibility around these sites.

List of recommendations include items such as making sure all the school signs and markings are existing.

There are school crosswalks that don't have the school crossing signs, there's faded markings.

There's some advanced markings that need to be put in place.

So we'll be addressing all of those items.

Um we'll be incorporating the parking restrictions near the intersections and crosswalks, making sure that visibility for those pedestrians is enhanced as much as possible, improving pedestrian ramps around school sites.

We've got a lot of curb ramps from just the built environment that we will be addressing.

I believe Washington Elementary probably has the most uh ramps around it, and we'll be making sure all those are ADA compliant.

Um, there's a lot that don't have the uh the raised bumps, so we'll be uh implementing those at those sites as well.

Uh another aspect of this project is to install pedestrian crossing enhancements.

Again, just whether it's uh the tough curb curdbulb outs where it creates that sense of uh separation from the travel way and provides that extra visibility for the pedestrians as they're crossing better signage, better better markings.

Um we are gonna be evaluating the installation of rapid rectangular flashing beacons, particularly at Alhambra Boulevard and I Street by Miwok Middle.

Um, and then there's several intersections that will be evaluated for traffic signals.

So with this project, we've split it into a couple phases.

There's some items that we can tackle in a really short term, and we are we're coordinating with our traffic engineering group to get those in place.

That includes the installation of the signs and the markings, um, updating the controlled crosswalks so that they meet the current guidance for the ladder-style crosswalks, um, making sure all the markings are remarked and visible around the school sites, restricting parking near the intersection, reconstructing and improving the pedestrian ramps, and then the passenger loading zones.

And we'll like I said, we're doing that in conjunction with the traffic engineering group and our street maintenance folks.

This is a list of intersections where we'll be updating curb ramps.

As you can see, it's pretty extensive.

Some of these have just one curb ramp that needs to be updated, some have two, three, some are all four.

It is getting pretty extensive.

So we've split that into two different fiscal years just to kind of help absorb the cost.

But we will be starting on that this summer.

We've got the CIP setup and the funding identified to begin those improvements.

The other phase of this project is going to be the feasibility and traffic study, and this is for those larger scale items that really need a good thorough analysis.

As mentioned, there's several traffic signals that we are looking at.

There's three intersections.

So we want to make sure that one, they're warranted by the CA M U T C D the manual and uniform traffic control devices.

And then following that, if these are feasible and how how we can go about installing those, do we need right-away, all that kind of determination?

We've got a couple areas, such as on North Park Drive, where one of the recommendations included installing you know a buffer zone or some kind of raised element along the bike path.

So we want to evaluate the feasibility of that.

We don't want to impede the bikeway and make it a hazard for bicyclists, but we do want to make sure that they have that separation if it will be feasible.

There's areas where we're looking at widening the sidewalks.

Again, there's a component of right away, so we really need to make sure do we have the right-of-way and how much that's gonna cost if we can do it.

Over by Northwood Elementary along Taft, the west side of the roadway has no existing sidewalk along fronting all the residential properties.

So one of the elements is we're gonna look at evaluating constructing those sidewalks, what that'll take, what what that looks like, the drainage elements, which will be a major component of that.

And then on Franklin Boulevard, one of the major recommendations was for traffic calming elements, and so we'll be exploring exploring what that will look like and how to best move forward with that.

Currently, we have 700,000 in local funds dedicated to this project, 400,000 from the Vision Zero program, and then 300,000 from the quick build traffic safety funds, which is a relatively new program.

But like I said, we've been able to coordinate with our traffic engineering group to really get those initial funds addressed.

In order to complete all these funds, we will need additional funding.

Um, and then the items included in the feasibility and traffic study will be determining different estimates for those to determine how to best move forward with constructing those improvements.

There's our timeline.

As I mentioned, we're starting the summer with constructing those initial improvements.

And then our feasibility study, we're underway to get a consultant under contract.

Um they believe they will be able to complete that by December.

Um, and so hopefully, you know, following that we can have a good thorough discussion on where that will lead.

And then following that, we'll be searching for how to best move forward with those other components.

Thank you.

Any any questions?

Thank you.

Thank you, vice chair.

Hi, thank you.

Excuse me.

Hi, thank you so much for presenting.

Um, can you go back to page nine of your presentation if you don't mind?

And Ian, you said nor Norwood Elementary is a part of the project.

Is Norwood not why is not Norwood here?

Am I not seeing something?

So this specifically speaks to the curb ramp elements.

And um it's not Norwood, it's Northwood elementary on Taft uh Taft Street, just north of uh Al Camino Avenue.

Um and so that one we're not looking at it for curb ramps that that's being included in the feasibility study for that sidewalk along that western side of the roadway.

Thank you for the clarification.

You're welcome.

Okay.

Commissioner Patel.

Hi, thank you so much.

Um the schools element is a big piece of my heart.

Can you go to slide six?

I just have a couple questions.

Um I'm happy to see that these are getting started in like the very near future.

Um you used some lingo that I think I know what you were meaning, but I just want to clarify.

So when you're saying traffic calming, um, is is this picture on the top left um the white is that is that rumble strips?

Is that when you're saying traffic calming, are those the kind of things you're talking about?

So that is an element of traffic calming.

We generally try to steer clear from using those near residential zones because we do get a lot of complaints um regarding roadway noise from from residential properties.

Um so that could be an element of traffic calming.

Part of the problem with saying traffic calming is that it's very extensive.

Yeah.

Um and when reviewing this vision zero school safety plan, that that was what the recommendation included.

And so that's part of what we're gonna be working with this consultant on really identifying well what kind of traffic calming can we pursue here, uh, especially on Franklin Boulevard where it's already a really tight roadway.

Um, you know, and I know we allow parking on both sides and we have the travel lane, but then there's no space for anything else.

Um, so yeah, we'll be working with that consultant to really identify what does traffic calming look here and and how to address that.

Well it's interesting because Franklin was one of my Franklin and Meadowview specifically, and I would need to think through some of the crossings, um, some of the other schools.

Um I mean, Meadow View, the speed, yeah, right.

The rumble strips are loud because they're working because if you drive over them fast, then they're so right, like they're serving their purpose, so it's this weird double-edged sword.

Um, but I used to work at that school very long time ago.

Um it is it is a dangerous place.

Whoever put that school on that road, it must have been like way before the traffic was what it is now.

Um it is not a safe road to put a school on.

I don't think it would ever construct a school on that busy of an intersection um in the future.

And so I was specifically wondering about the rumble strips here, um, when I'm thinking about what that looks like, the speed of traffic, because the and this is kind of goes to that like multiple iterations till we get to the right place or doing it right the first time that I was speaking on uh earlier um section.

Um the signs aren't gonna do anything for the traffic.

They're still gonna go 60 miles an hour in front of that school.

Um, and so how can we keep those students safe?

How can we slow down traffic who are about to fly through a red light because there is a young student or someone in a wheelchair who takes longer to get across crossing?

Um and so the rumble strips were is was something I was hoping might be part of that traffic calming um so to speak plan, and especially in places like Meadow View.

So I think it's something that I I would hope that you guys would consider.

Um and Franklin were two of the ones I was thinking of that are pretty less safe, right?

You think about H.

Allen Height, it is tucked inside of a neighborhood, doesn't mean people drive great there because I drive that multiple times a day every day, but it's a little bit better, um, right?

You you're a little protected because you're between um homes, then it's a lower uh uh that you've got stop signs and things that that prevent you from going fast.

You've already got the speed humps there or tables or whatever version they're called.

Um so just something just a comment and a consideration, um, because we know those signs don't do much, and when what we if we look back historically at intersections where we try to put the signs, we we just keep layering things in until we eventually get to the right marker, which is probably something like rumble strips or speed tables in those areas.

Um and then my other question was um in this picture, this this picture um on the bottom right, you said something about widening sidewalks.

So I wondered about that because when we look at I know we're supposed to be looking at the school sign there, but my eyes instantly went to the probably 18-inch sidewalk at that at that pole.

And so anyone in a wheelchair or who walks with a cane can't really safely access through that space because it's not wide enough, and so students um students can't go home on their own.

They can't be independent when they get old enough uh to do so because they can't get out of their school.

Um so if when we look at this sidewalk, um there there isn't a right-of-way for our um disabled community when our sidewalks are like this.

And I know that is you know, there was a pic there's a picture further on that I actually think it's H.

Allen Height on side 10 where it's a much wider sidewalk.

That's what we do now.

Um this is definitely an older uh neighborhood.

Um, but how are we, how are we fixing that?

Cause if we just get to the school crossing, we can't th those the many students walk home.

Um, and so how are we giving that equal opportunity?

Anthony, uh maybe I can um answer Commissioner Patel.

We're gonna bring back an item on a future agenda that looks specifically at utility poll uh challenges and uh particularly um the issue that you're pointing out because it's it's something that happens, it's not just particular to Anthony's project, but it in and it is something, but so I I think we'd it's worthy of like a deeper discussion.

Um I have talked with Ophelia about bringing back an item that looks specifically at uh utility poles.

So um I just want to put that out there too.

So that's great.

Yeah, I had heard him mention um widening sidewalks, so I didn't know if where is that kind of happening at.

Yeah, and I'll say that you know, not all the recommendations apply to all the schools.

Um the widening sidewalk component is specific to Garden Valley Elementary School up there off of uh Northgate Drive.

It's a Northgate and patio.

Um so we were looking around uh Patio Avenue, widening those sidewalks around Larchwood, uh widening those sidewalks that that's where that component is specifically looking at.

Um I think you know mainly the biggest challenge will be cost.

I believe those are both city owned parcels along Patio Avenue, but I'm not quite sure, and I'm not sure what coordination that will require with those other divisions to to coordinate that.

Thank you.

Uh Commissioner Poland.

Hello.

Um, so you chose an interesting uh council meeting to come and present.

So um uh anyway, for um the rectangular rapid flashing beacon that is being um evaluated.

Um this obviously is not gonna be anything that you will be able to answer at all, but um to look forward, um, I know that there is different types that also allow for, for example, dimming when it's um night out, things like that, and determining how quickly the flashes go for photosensitive people.

Um I know that those specific the rectangular rapid flashing beacons, um, they aren't regulated for the specific flashes.

They are a little bit, but not into like um photosensitive uh area.

So that's something that you that the city could consider if you guys do go ahead and do that.

Um that particular beacon is looking for the ones that are dimmable at night um and that are um able to be tweaked as far as those those flashing.

Um, because some of them aren't, some of them are.

Um, and I know you're just in the planning phase, so just something to consider.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And Commissioner Barnbaum.

Yes, um, I wanted to follow up with a comment uh that Commissioner Patelk uh brought up on traffic calming.

Um I've lived in the city uh since 1995.

One of the most controversial uh traffic calming projects uh the city is undertaken was the one in midtown some years, if not a decade or more ago.

Are you looking at traffic calming measures like half street closures, roundabouts, uh, or additional speed lumps or converting uh one-way streets and do the opposite direction or something similar to what midtown went through around these schools, or is that just around the water uh cooler?

I'll say with the traffic circles, the main issue comes around, especially with the existing infrastructure, the the space available to us.

Franklin Boulevard is a tight intersection.

We don't have or a tight roadway, we don't have a lot of space in the intersection to install items like traffic circles.

Um I would be consulting with the traffic engineering group as far as speed bumps go, speed lumps.

Uh that depends on the roadway classification, the volume of traffic on the roadway.

Um but if it falls within our city criteria, then that is definitely something that could be explored.

Um I don't we wouldn't be looking at any half street closures.

Um I know they are very controversial.

Um, some people love them, some people hate them because drivers just go around them anyways.

Um, and so you know, is that really gonna increase the safety if you have a driver going the wrong way going around them without the the enforcement aspect that can stay there constantly cracking down on it?

Okay, thank you so much um for your presentation.

Um I think this has been uh long time coming, and I really appreciate the level of detail you've provided us and uh definitely the level of detail that my fellow commissioners have provided you.

Um yeah, that's all I have.

Um uh clerk, and I neglected to do this on the previous item.

There was no public comment on the previous item.

Uh, clerk, do we have any um public comment slips on this item?

Thank you, Vice Chair.

We do not have any speakers for this item.

All right.

Well, thank you again.

Thank you.

And we will move on to, yes.

Uh we will move on to our next item.

We already had our staff report, so we will move to uh Commissioner comments um thoughts and ideas.

Um Commissioner Barma.

Thank you.

Um just looking at the calendar, I see no formal meeting until Wednesday, August 5th.

So maybe this will give folks a little bit of chance to look up some things we've had discussions on today, and uh I'd brought one item I want to bring back uh tonight um to that I had brought up at a different meeting.

Um so I'd like to recommend maybe not a motion per se, um, either into the log uh or onto the agenda, uh, whichever the feeling is to bring back the matter relating to the scooters.

Okay.

And I don't know if we're ready at this level of the to bring it to the commission, uh, but just maybe a status update on where the city is in regards to the Arden Auburn mobility Plan.

I brought a sheet of paper about that at the last meeting, and I don't know if it's transferred departments yet to come here, and if it's worth jumping ahead of ourselves, I understand.

And if we are, would it be appropriate uh to put it on the work plan for 2027 rather than the August 5th agenda?

If that's the one I'm remembering from last meeting, I think that one's at least two or three years out, right?

Jesse.

Yeah, it's it's with our it's with our um with our planning division currently, and so um typically the items that come before the disability advisory commissioner and the engineering services, because we're having a greater level of detail.

Um, but you know what?

I'm gonna be working with Jennifer on a report out on the scooters.

And so um maybe I'll ask if maybe that can also be part of her report is a brief update on the that plan effort.

Okay, and and if that's the case uh great.

Um let's make sure that we get the text uh and the language into the uh uh agenda so we uh aren't stopped by legal um as to discussing something they feel um that wasn't worded properly on the formal uh public paper 72 hours in advance.

Okay, correct.

Thank you.

We'll do uh um Commissioner Knapper.

Yes, thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Um thank you everyone.

Uh so I want to announce I didn't hear so this is Pride Month, and I know we have a big event happening here in downtown Sacramento.

I hope people are able to participate.

Um, and then it is also um we'll be celebrating Juneteenth, and which is very near and dear to my heart as an African-American person.

Um I um there are events around the city.

Um, I encourage everyone to participate.

If you haven't, come out and join the community.

Um the other thing I would like to lift up is um I know it's a bit of a touchy subject, but thank you for this opportunity that for for us to have um announcements.

There was um our in-house community members many live with disabilities, and there was um something of an issue that happened in the last few days where many people were displaced who were in um like transition or interim housing and hotels, um, city contracted um hotels or motels, and um a lot of quite a few people were displaced to some fiasco happened.

Um people did receive some emergency vouchers for um to to rehouse because they were displaced.

Um and the vouchers weren't enough to cover um getting another room for the night.

These are families, um, these are children, these are people living with disabilities, and um so I am sharing this in the sense of um as it as a commissioner on the disability advisory um commission.

Uh we have folks out there, it's hot outside.

We have young children and people with disabilities that don't have access to um electricity, for example, if I need to plug in my nebulizer to read or my chair if I need to, this mobile.

Um, I don't have um blankets at night.

Children are you know reporting that they're cold, right?

People don't have water, they don't have ice, they don't have electrolytes, they don't have much of anything right now who are displaced, and there's an ask for help.

And um, I I don't, I'm not asking the commission itself.

I I mean I think something we need to consider to continue to put it to forefront.

Um that disabilities also includes our in-house um neighbors here in Sacramento and in the city of Sacramento.

Sacramental Steps Forward is um really supporting this community, and I would encourage anyone as an individual if you'd like to contribute to help our displaced and house neighbors um until the city gets it together with them to get them back into housing or transitional housing in the hotels or motels where they were contracted to stay.

Um please contact Sacramento Steps Forward if you care to drop off some water or you know, a a big bag of ice or whatever it is, some Gatorade or snacks and what whatever it is for our folks until it gets sorted out.

And that's my those are my announcements for today, and thank you.

Thank you, uh Commissioner Pullen.

Um, and actually to add on to Commissioner Knapper, uh, like 60% of all unhoused people are people who identify themselves as being disabled.

Um, so it is definitely a disproportionate um amount of those folks who are like us, and so um absolutely any homeless services is also a disability services.

Um so I really thank Commissioner Knapper for bringing that up.

Um yeah.

Uh as far as um future agenda requests, uh, I would like to request um sometime at the future that uh we consider formally accepting council member Maple's request from the May 5th budget and audit committee, um, where she asked for two-way communication with the city manager's office um and or commission um on the ADA coordinator question.

Um I think what was brought up today shows that um clearly the city manager's office and us are not quite something's going on there.

Um, and I would really appreciate us um either formally sending a letter to the city manager's office as a commission saying, hey, we need to talk about this, inviting them to come, etc.

Um, or if staff just wants to invite however you want to do it, but I do think that the city manager's office needs to be the one, um, not just public works, not just HR.

It seems to be the city manager at this point that needs to be the one that that comes and talks with us.

So if we could put that on uh an agenda to discuss going forward, not making any motions or anything now, but that's it.

Thank you very much.

If that is a motion, I'll second it.

It sounds like it's coming from a council member.

Yeah, thank you.

Um and then uh uh Commissioner Carrero.

It's on.

Okay.

Hi, hi everyone.

Um, and yes, Juneteenth is very important.

I have it on my calendar.

I'm going to all the community events, and my job is also hosting a big party, so I'm excited.

Um, so yes.

Um I wanted to ask um a request for a particular topic.

I know a um I know I'm fairly new, and a lot of our conversations have been around uh infrastructure, planning, city, but as you know, last year HR one passed, which did a big significant um impact to us as they did cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, Medicaid expansion, and that obviously um impacts people with disability.

And so I wanted to know if there would be an opportunity to be able to talk about the impacts.

I know that in Southern Hospital, the cancer center, a lot of um patients have to be turned away because they don't have health insurance.

So I just wanted to curiously, you know, this I just want to know um, you know, what the city is doing to address.

I know it's more of like a state issue, but I'm wondering at the local level um what's being done based on the cuts that have been done um due to HR one, which is a federal law.

Um so I was curious to know if there's anything if there is like a discussion that could be done here, and that and then another random policy idea that I was thinking tagging along to scooters, and you know, I live in downtown, so I have to talk about this.

Um but uh, you know, another way to tax and bring money is and also as a it's also a disability issue because believe it or not, in downtown there are a lot of people with disability that live here, as well as seniors.

And is there a way to like I don't know if it's in the law sort of anything, is there a way to find people who don't pick up poop after their dogs?

Because you know, we step on it, wheelchairs roll on it, you know.

So maybe that's a way of an incentive to try to get money um to help fund the ADA coordinator.

So, you know, something to think about we can bring to discussion, you know.

Um, but yeah, this is something to think about.

Love the ideas.

I think I think looking at the federal funding the city's pulled down, looking if there's been any changes, maybe Jesse, that might be the right framing of that at all.

Well, my initial reaction to HR one that's not an activity or program of the city.

Yeah so not under not that specifically yeah so we're try really trying to stay on on point with canum what we should do.

But I don't think the city's really lost like resources available or maybe maybe you know um just because I just I've maybe the county the county okay that's yeah I apologize.

Health and human assistance more of a county function.

But scooters and sidewalk issues I think what they're gonna tackle with we're working on it and dog poop.

And dog poop uh Commissioner Knapper you wanted to queue up again yeah thank you vice chair thank you commissioner yes um uh I think it's very important that the HR when the the impacts to our um community members that are maybe receiving medical um and um and many who are in this are disabled and so if people have interests I I recommend um take issue there is a disability advisory commission and under the county there's also the board of supervisors as well.

Um I I came on to um Jesse I wanted to um if I may um you mentioned that uh the utilities uh you're gonna bring something thank you because you know Northgate Boulevard right okay so I hope that and then I know you mentioned an update regarding that at some point so I I'm I'm imagining um that all of that will be in whatever that presentation will yeah so the way we've envisioned it is that uh utility polls in on in sidewalks presenting an obstruction is is a issue on many arterial corridors and it has come up as a comment as projects come before you and so we have staff with a lot of years experience uh implementing you know corridor projects and kind of what works what doesn't work and then why is it so hard right and kind of um educating the commission on on the challenges of the challenges that we come up against when we're when we're when we're doing projects and there you identify there's a poll out there you know where's it gonna end up so um yeah thank you so much for that and I I look forward to that um being on the agenda hopefully um I know we just I'm concepting to my calendar but we do as it's one of your work plan items it's uh it's we're gonna capture it under like the reviewing of the plans and projects okay yeah thank you sir and like we don't have a strict rule about requeuing up in this segment but just for the sake of the city attorney let's try not to comment too much on each other so we're not having a discussion about an item not on the agenda but you're free to say what you want in the space but just since we've already but anyway uh Commissioner Patel.

Hi uh I love the ideas I I couldn't help myself I think I smiled and almost just was like there's an example just wanted to know like slide nine has of the project that we just looked at to my point earlier has six seven eight nine ten curb ramp and I'm like how much money it was seven hundred thousand dollars that project probably four hundred thousand right there boom there's two years for this position um just because it wasn't done right um so we already have a piece of data uh to start the data poll I I saw that slide and I'm like there's all the money right there um putting out the fire um so just had to say that I don't know if anyone else thought of that when that slide went up but um let's do it right the first time let's let's be that city that does that um and then my question um and or comment to think about so I just a clarity we keep saying scooters um she did say shared writables so is are are we I just, in the vein of everything I've said tonight it like smarter not harder, smarter not harder.

Are we talking about just scooters?

So then we're not solving the e-bikes because the problems are the same, or shared ride holes is all of those.

Okay, so we we're saying scooters, but but we are 'cause the e-bike has their own new set of laws, and they're separate over here, and scooters have these laws, and so are are we we're talking about it all when we come back together.

Okay.

That's my impression at least.

But an expectation.

I just wanted to make sure we don't have to then go redo the the same thing.

Thank you.

And then Commissioner Barnbom.

Yes, uh, thank you for everyone for the healthy discussion we're uh having of about ideas and future agenda items.

Uh one thing that kind of popped into my mind, and maybe make a suggestion either to expand the work plan or add this to the 2027 work plan is the suggestion of a joint DAC meeting, combining forces at 700 H Street with those here at 916 H Street, to uh have a collaborative meeting on maybe on an annual basis to start, and if we go semi annual or quarterly in the future, great.

Uh, but kind of hear what everybody is having in their business plan and stuff at least annually and get the two DACs together.

That's a heavy lift, sir, but I think our staff can coordinate okay.

So we'll leave it there.

Thank just a suggestion.

Seeing no one else, uh, we'll move to public comment items not on the agenda.

Thank you by share, we do not have any speakers.

All right.

Well, thank you all for a very robust and passionate meeting this evening, uh, with no other agenda items.

I hereby uh declare this meeting adjourned.

Thank you.