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Sorry, welcome to the Thursday December 12th 5.30 p.m. Planning and Design Commission meeting.

This meeting is now called to order.

Clerk please call the roll to establish a quorum.

Thank you, Chair.

Commissioner Zong.

Absent.

Commissioner Chase.

Here.

Commissioner Lamas.

Here.

Commissioner Buckley.

Here.

Commissioner Caden.

Here.

Commissioner Hernandez.

Here.

Commissioner Mosses Reid.

Absent.

Absent.

Advice to your young.

Here.

Commissioner Blond.

Here.

Commissioner Risky.

Absent.

Commissioner Thompson.

Here.

And Chair Wallace.

Here.

Thank you, we have a quorum.

Thank you.

I would like to remind members of the public and chambers if you would like to speak on an agenda item please turn in a speaker slip when the item begins.

You will have three minutes to speak once you are called on.

After the first speaker we will no longer accept speaker slips for that item.

We will now proceed with today's agenda.

Please rise for the opening knowledge and honor of Sacramento's Indigenous Peoples and Tribal lands.

For the original people of this land, the Nissanon people, the southern Maidu, Valley and Plains Mewook,

put when win-tune peoples and the people of the Wilton Rancheria, Sacramento's only federally recognized tribe.

May we acknowledge and honor the native people who came before us and still walk beside us today on these ancestral lands by choosing to gather together today in the active practice of acknowledgement and appreciation for Sacramento's Indigenous Peoples, history, contributions and lives.

Please remain standing for the pledge.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all.

All right.

First order of business is our directors report.

Thank you, Chair.

Three items for the commission this evening.

On Tuesday this week, December 10th, the City Council approved several items that were heard by the commission on its October 24 meeting.

That included what we call the omnibus ordinance, which is an ordinance filled with cleanup corrections and minor amendments to Title 17, which is the City's zoning code.

The Council approved an update to Title 17's density bonus provisions to bring them into compliance with state law.

And also housing element program, H15, which is related to permitting requirements for special needs housing.

Second, the Community Development Department is now accepting applications for the 2025 Planning Academy.

This is an 11 week program that's led by city staff.

It delves into many different planning topics such as housing, historic preservation, urban design, climate action planning.

And it's a mix of virtual and in-person meetings.

And then there are also two walking tours.

It's held on Monday nights, March through May.

And it's the program is now in its 23rd year.

So we're very proud of it.

I'd like to encourage any of you who might be watching to apply or share this information with your networks.

And the application period is open until January 24th.

So you can find more information on the Community Development Department's website.

And your browser type in Sacramento Planning Academy.

You know, it will come up or you can email Planning Academy at cityofsacramento.org for more information.

And then the final item I have for the commissioners.

Our first meeting of 2025 will be Thursday, January 16th.

And at that meeting, the commission will be asked to nominate a new chair and vice chair.

So thinking about that.

That's all I have.

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, Stacia.

Next we have a presentation from Sapphire, recognition of dedication and service.

And I will hand it over to you.

Thank you, Chair.

Good evening.

This is Sapphire, as long from the City Clerk's Office.

As your current term concludes, the City Clerk's Office extends our sincere gratitude for your invaluable service to the Planning and Design Commission and the City of Sacramento.

If any commissioners would like to offer remarks regarding their time on the commission, please feel free to do so at this time.

Thank you.

Any wants to talk?

I think that's for me because you're not really going anywhere.

Thank you for that.

I really appreciate that.

I've had a lot of fun serving on the commission.

It's been more than I could have imagined the breadth of topics have just been a surprise, but also kind of fun.

Coming into this as a person with a strong affordable housing background, I expected to talk about that a bit more up here, but we talked about a lot of other things that I think are really valuable to the folks in Sacramento.

I really appreciate folks on the commission, the support that folks have given, and all the folks who've served in Chair and Vice Chair.

It's really special how folks on this body are contributing to our community, and I think you all should be very proud of that.

And then the planning staff really appreciate all the great work you've done and helped me figure out how to make some decisions up here.

I've really appreciated the work that folks put into the presentations and the work that you put into the reports you do.

Overall, I've just been really wowed by this experience, and it's been great, and so I really appreciate it.

Thank you, Commissioner Buckley.

Commissioner Hernandez.

Thank you, Chair. I just want to thank Commissioner Buckley for her service.

It's been great getting to know you here, and your invaluable expertise and experience, not to mention, just your demeanor and your comments.

Always were enlightening for me and helped me see things from a new perspective, so I just want to thank you for your contributions, and we'll be able to missed.

I will just echo my colleagues' comments.

I think the knowledge that you bring from a legal perspective to this work, trying to tease apart the values and then the policy, are sort of at the core of public service in this kind of a role.

I think you've accorded that perfectly, and I'm not giving up.

I'd like to see you continue on the commission, so thank you so much.

Okay, moving on to the consent calendar.

Prove all of the planning and design commission minutes. Are there any speakers for this item?

Thank you, Chair. I have no speakers for this item.

All right, so any motions, comments from the dice?

Commissioner Blit.

Commissioner Bass.

All right, we have the motion.

We have a second.

Second.

What's going on?

Oh.

Commissioner Lamas.

Clerk, please call the roll.

Thank you, Chair.

Commissioner Zong.

Absent.

Commissioner Chase.

Aye.

Commissioner Lamas.

Aye.

Commissioner Buckley.

Aye.

Commissioner Kaden.

Aye.

Commissioner Hernandez.

Aye.

Commissioner Maseus Reed.

Absent.

Vice Chair Young.

Aye.

Commissioner Blant.

Aye.

Commissioner Rishki.

Absent.

Commissioner Thompson.

Aye.

Commissioner

Andrew Wallace.

Aye.

Thank you, motion passes.

Thank you.

All right, item number two.

Applicant Appeal, 860 Ardenway, CUP, major modification.

Item Z23-078.

We'll have a presentation from Jose.

Thank you.

My name is Jose Quintanilla, associate planner with the community development department.

This item is Z23-078.

An applicant appeal of the zoning administrator's decision to deny the request to modify the existing conditional use permit.

For the existing gas station at 860 Ardenway to change the ABC license type from a type 20 for the sale of beer and wine.

To a type 21 license which allows for the sale of beer, wine and distilled spirits.

And this is all for off-site consumption.

In April of 2024, the zoning administrator, a straighter denied the request, consistent with staff's recommendation and the applicant subsequently filed an appeal.

The planning and design commission previously heard this item on August 8th, October 10th, and November 14th.

At each meeting, the commission has not had sufficient votes to either approve or deny the appeal.

And thus the item has been continued for further discussion at each prior meeting.

At the November 14th hearing, the commission continued the item to this evening.

There are total of eight total findings of fact that are required to be made for an alcohol CUP to be approved.

Staff was unable to make five of the findings as outlined in the staff report.

Staff continues to recommend denial of the modification and denial of the appeal.

If the commission decides to approve the modification and grant the appeal then the commission will need to provide staff supporting facts for these five findings.

Thank you. That concludes my presentation.

Staff's here to answer any questions and the appellanous here as well.

Thank you.

Thank you, Jose. I neglected to ask for disclosures and recusals.

Are there any from the commission?

Vice-Chairyan.

Yes, I visited the site a couple times and spoke with the applicant about proposed conditions.

Commissioner Lemus.

I had a conversation with the council member that consistent with the staff report.

All right. Thank you. I think we'll go straight to public comments.

Clerk, do we have speakers for this item?

Thank you, Chair. I have 13 speaker slips for this item.

Our first speaker is Lola.

Thank you.

Commissioners.

When Mr. Singh, the Chevron station owner, first applied for a license to sell beer and wine in years past when he acquired the property.

He promised he would never seek a license to sell to still spirits.

When Mr. Singh applied for the license to sell beer and wine at that time years ago, I filed a letter of opposition at that time.

In earlier commission hearings on this matter, a series of individuals, some of whom are of my acquaintance, testified that Mr. Singh is a fine fellow of good repute.

I have no doubt Mr. Singh has an upright character and is a generous donor to local charities.

May I remind the commissioners that this is not the question before us?

I'm here today to register my opposition to sales of distilled spirits at the Chevron station on Ardenway and Royal Oaks.

Specifically, school children and their parents are crossing the street near the Chevron station and are endangered by inebriated motorists driving by.

The children's safety should be our first priority.

While Sacramento police data do not yet reflect concerns about hard liquor sales and an increase in motor vehicle versus pedestrian accidents, we do need to wait.

We do not need to wait until this happens to prevent such a future.

Finally, we already have too many liquor stores in Old North Sacramento.

This applicant would worsen, not improve social conditions in our neighborhood.

I urge you to reject this application.

Thank you for your comment.

Our next speaker is Pat.

Good evening and I see that we have three minutes so I don't have to talk quite as fast.

I'm chair of the Woodlake Neighborhood Association Planning Committee.

I've been a 36 year resident of North Sacramento and our committee opposes the change from a 20 to a 21.

I think the five issues, the five points, have not been adequately addressed.

The first concern is whether or not this change is consistent with the general plan.

No, the current rules I know have changed since he applied.

However, he had to reapply so to me that the new changes should apply.

Next item is whether or not this project is detrimental to our community.

So we have to evaluate the risks and the benefits.

If we look carefully, we will see that there are mostly risks and very few benefits to our neighborhood.

I personally walked by Woodlake School and a drunk was addressing me and thanking me for not walking my dog by him.

So we do have a problem of people walking or no, I mean in the neighborhood that are alcoholics.

I believe that this would benefit the management, not the community.

Another point to remember is that there is a major difference between wine and beer and hard spirits.

At the Arden facility, there were 16 in a month, there were 16 citations.

However, by the same owner owning property at the Arco on El Camino had 44 citations.

And when he was selling the distilled spirits.

So there is a difference that would affect our neighborhood.

As mentioned before, we do have an over-concentration of sales of alcohol from the outlets, convenience stores.

And I think it's our responsibility.

There have been a number of studies done that show that a reduction of access to alcohol actually reduces a solid amount of alcohol.

It reduces assaults and motor vehicle crashes.

I won't go into the study in detail because there's not enough time.

I think that it does contribute to our blight.

The owner has even said that he needs already extra help to keep the place clean.

I think that this is definitely an adverse to the redevelopment efforts of our neighborhood.

We have a beautiful new facility called El Salvador that is right next to his facility.

And we're going to kind of compete.

Thank you for your time. Your comment is not. Your time is not up.

Our next speaker is Elaine Jackson.

Yes.

Thank you.

I am hoping today that you can not only look at what the business wants and what one politician wants, but that you could look at what our community needs are.

I really hope that some of you really think about that because think about your own neighborhoods.

And if you did not want this there, we had over 200 people that lived close to this facility sign a petition to not have this upgraded to hard liquor sales.

There is definitely a difference between beer.

I heard a couple of commissioners last time mentioned that there isn't that much of a difference.

There definitely is a difference from beer and wine to hard liquor or they wouldn't have two types of liquor licenses.

I heard several of you say that. That it was not that big of a difference.

But I'm hoping that you guys think about doing the right thing for the right reasons.

You shouldn't just be placed on this appointed to these commissions and only think about one side.

You need to look at the communities which you're affecting.

Del Paso Boulevard has had many many problems with several of the liquor stores which are within a half a mile and a quarter mile of this location.

And North Oak Park closed the two liquor stores within their area.

It has made a turnaround since they've closed those stores.

I've talked to community activists in that area over 10 years ago that said how much crime was created from these two liquor stores.

We know that Del Paso Boulevard liquor stores has a lot of crime.

We just had another shooting Friday.

Now why would you go ahead and say this is okay to our community when we're telling you you can look this up yourself?

This is really an important issue.

Blight continues in areas if you do not lift them up.

We can't think of one reason why this is going to lift up our community.

What benefit does this give our community?

Would you want this in your community?

I ask you strongly.

And as 200 people have stated to you, this is not what we want to see there.

Please, please consider this.

Please do not vote for this for our community.

I wouldn't do that to your community.

I would think about the people who live there and how that affects people.

Please, please think about this when you make your decision.

Thank you.

Thank you for your comment.

Our next speaker is Jay King.

Good evening, I'm commissioners.

I am the president and CEO of the California Black Chamber of Commerce.

And it's an honor to stand before you today to support the modification of the CUP for the business at 860 Arden.

I would like to thank you all for your support and support.

It is a great honor to have you here, Chevron.

As we all know, small business owners are the backbone of our communities.

They not only create jobs, but they also invest time, resources, and energy

and to supporting local organizations and neighbourhood initiatives.

They are dedication to providing quality service while supporting the need of those around them deserve recognition and encouragement.

This CUP modification will enable them to continue their operations effectively and adopt to the need of the community they serve.

Supporting this change is not just about business.

It's about preserving opportunities, creating stability, and fostering economic growth in our shared community.

I encourage all of you to stand with me in supporting CUP all-seeing in this team as they continue their efforts.

Together, we can ensure that small business thrives and continue to support our community.

Thank you all so much.

Thank you for your comment.

Our next speaker is Michelle Rudeck.

Evening commissioners, Michelle Rudeck and I'm at 129 Southgate Road in the Woodland neighbourhood.

Been a resident there for 35 years, come January.

I'm here tonight to voice my opposition to this application to expand the alcohol sales at this location.

I'm not alone in the opposition as you've already heard.

I have a petition with over 200 signatures on record from local residents collected over a short period of time.

All opposing, the proposed expanded liquor sales at this location.

The convenience store, which is what I refer to it as, but it's a gas station, is in a residential area of old established neighbourhoods.

In a low income district, which is known to be deficient in public services and amenities.

The immediate area is in the process of doubling its residential density in the near future with a high number of high, with a number of high density housing projects.

That would include the newly completed under construction and proposed residential, all of those units.

This convenience store is on the city's light rail and bus public transit lines with the Arden Way stop at in very close proximity to the store, allowing for easy public access.

It is situated close to a charter high school and in between, within very close walking distance, of two low income housing projects.

One to the east on Arden, about a year old, and the other to the west, now under construction by the state.

Together, they include a total of about 240 new low income residential apartments.

That's just the tip of the iceberg as to the proposals in this neighbourhood and the overall neighbourhoods surrounding this store.

The city of Sacramento should be supporting the new residents and these new, in these new developments and the existing residential community with increased public services and amenities.

A safe, for living environment, with quality food, good schools, health care, parks and open space, and not with the expansion and hard liquor sales that all goes with, and all that goes with hard liquor sales.

Explain to me how this proposed hard liquor license would benefit anyone but the convenience store owner.

Yes, the city would receive additional sales tax revenue, but at the expense of the surrounding neighbourhoods and the district to community.

I ask the Planning Commission, please, to please consider the greater good, the well-being of the community, and exercise good planning practices and denying this application.

Thank you.

Thank you for your comment. Our next speaker is Willie Minci.

Thank you again. I think I've been here about three or four times, but anyway, at the last meeting I was hearing people say how difficult this was a decision this is.

And me, look at it, I think it's a very easy decision. Very simple. And the reason it's simple is that I look at on West El Camino where I'm 2701 orchard, there's a gas station on AMP.

They do very well across the street. There is another gas station, but let me just tell you that gas station has a 20 and it's been denied twice.

Once in 2014 and 22 and the reason they were denied, you know, I didn't put in a petition, but you know, I just said, these people are not going to have it.

It's near school, it's near kids. And they've accepted that decision, that gas station.

And it's clear to me that I used to go in the store and I saw the kids, but the community didn't want it and twice denied on a 20.

Whereas I look at this right here is that, you know, it's in this gas station, whether you like it or not, it's in a transit district and it's really next to Swanson station.

And the property owners in those areas undergo a lot of restrictions. And, you know, I'm a property owner over in Swanson station.

I like to do away with the restrictions that the city has imposed on me and come before you and say, hey, I'm a night, well, I'm a nice guy.

Take my restrictions, but you know, I accepted as he did when he bought the property. I bought mine and that's what the city wants to do.

And so, for the property owners that are struggling, you know, I mean, they'd like to get these, you know, I can tell you quite a few of them.

They'd like to get these restrictions taken away from them because they're not able to generate the revenue to conduct their business.

And so, I say that we need to send the message that the kids and the people that are struggling are important.

And I cannot say something about the Whitley residents, you know, they're in a very affluent area.

Well, okay, compared to the Dixie and Erie. And I'm not calling them affluent, but I'm just saying that's a troubled region of the city.

And I think that that's an area that has been left behind. And so, I'd like for you to stand with the residents in that area.

Because these things, I do not believe are in the best interest of the people who live in the community. Thank you.

Thank you for your comment. Our next speaker is Dale McCluskey.

Please excuse me, I have a cold. Got out of bed. Put my face on in an article here.

I really appreciate that you are pro small business. I'm a small business owner. I thank you so much that you're pro small business.

But don't take it for, don't do the support of small business at the detriment of residents who just want to live their lives in their own castle.

We want to be safe. We would like to just come home and we just want to live our lives just like everyone else.

Now, it's been talked about for small business, however, the Chevron Station, which I believe is a franchise, has a very strong following as a Chevron Station.

And I understand Mr. Singh has other properties as well, other business properties as well.

He might be considered a small business. I don't know how many employees he has, whatever it's generated. But it just doesn't seem like the compensating factors would come in for a small business as the argument.

I agree with staff. I think the exception to the stated policy prohibiting alcohol be sold adjacent to the light rail transit was granted.

We don't know what the compensating and overriding factors were. Don't know what that maybe someone can fill us in on that.

However, since we are here today, we need to look at this again. And I do believe that there are insufficient supporting factors to make an exception about upgrading the liquor license.

Thank you. Thank you for your comment. Our next speaker is Dresden Voal.

Trustee Voat is unable to attend this meeting tonight because she is shaperoning the Grant Union High School football contingency down to their state game, go Pacers.

But with due respect to all stakeholders, she asked that these comments be shared.

I'm speaking in opposition to the modification and expansion of the conditional use permit at the 860 Ardenway location.

As a community member, a resident of the city district, a parent, and a member of the Twin Rivers School District Board.

The school district board has submitted formal letters expressing our concerns. The community has petitioned and we all believe this expansion would significantly and negatively impact the peace and welfare of our students, families, and neighborhood.

This location is uniquely problematic. It sits directly adjacent to a major light rail station on a street that serves as a major pedestrian and bicycle route for students and their families traveling to and from wood like elementary school and area schools.

Many students and families regularly pass this gas station and transport hub, making it critical to prioritize their safety over expanded business operations.

The argument that this permit modification will in any way serve an economic benefit does not outweigh the risks it poses to many of our most vulnerable residents.

Increased access to alcohol, particularly spirits at a site so close to a school zone and a major transit route invites potential to exacerbate already existing safety concerns, including public intoxication and blight.

I also want to emphasize that while this business owner has sought other license changes and development within the Twin Rivers Unified School District area, the board has only opposed those that, like this one, present significant risks due to their unique locations and conditions.

While we have opposed some of this business owner's proposals, we have not opposed the majority. Our opposition here is thoughtful and deliberate.

Based on the direct and foreseeable impact this modification for expanded sale of alcohol would have on the safety and well-being of our students, families, and community.

I urge the commission to consider the voices of community members who experience these conditions daily and to prioritize the safety of children and transit users over the financial gain of a single business.

Thank you for your time and thank you for your thoughtful consideration.

Thank you for your comment. Our next speaker is, Subdain Singh.

I support the business.

Yes, I support for the business.

Thank you for your comment. Our next speaker is, Jet Tender Singh.

Good evening. I support the business. The reason behind all that is I like to shop over there all that time.

I didn't find anything wrong like no homelessness over there, homeless people. They are taking really good care of the properties.

So I support their business. Thank you.

Thank you for your comment. Our next speaker is, Raghu.

Good evening, everybody. We have to support R&B Chevron, gas station, permit modification. The station has been reliable and convenient resources for our community, providing essential service and contributing to the local economy.

We are going to provide the permit and the permit will allow them to serve better while continuing to meet our needs responsibly.

Thank you.

Thank you for your comment. And our last speaker is, Darro Roberts.

Good evening, Commissioner. Good evening, Commissioner. I'm Darro Roberts, resident of District 2.

I'm here for the third time. I'm here to support Chevron, gas station on a couple of scenes application to expand to existing services to provide a hard alcohol.

At the last meeting, someone in front of the audience asked why would someone work and would you speak on behalf of a business which sells alcohol?

Just as supported businesses such as Mulvaney's B&L, which actually at one point was in our center using the kitchen that we had.

Water Boy, the old woodlay Tavern and Stoneian, by the way, each of those sell alcohol and each of them been asked to give us and supporting non-property in our community.

And then whenever mentioned, not our supported those, but seemed that supporting Chevron, gas station became an issue.

And I bring that up because you may say, how does restaurants and gas station seem to connect?

Well, I don't quite understand how liquor store down the street where someone has been shot on Del Paso Boulevard, connecting it to the Chevron owner's application makes sense to mean it doesn't.

In our neighborhood, Sacramento Police Department did not oppose the applicant. Our neighborhood, of issues of homelessness and our societal issues around alcohol should not be used upon this applicant to stop his application.

There's a perception that there must be some nefarious reason why I would support this application.

It's a good business development. It's a good person in our neighborhood. It does not go against me, the fabric of business development in Northside. It attracts quality people.

We try to attract those type of people and those type of businesses. I oppose the staff's report and favor the Chevron application for modification.

There was a compromise offered by members of the commission. I've heard them talk about it in the past. My hope is that you would take time to talk about that compromise as well.

Thank you very much.

Thank you for your comment. Chair, I have no more speakers.

Thank you, Clerk.

All right. Thank you all for your time and attention to this issue and your consistent presence here.

Commissioner, is there any questions for staff or any motions? Vice Chair again?

Yeah, I wanted to thank the community for sharing their comments. I think that the wood like community residents have made impassioned please to for us to take a long hard look at what's going on in that area.

I'm still making up my mind. But I did go to that site around right after school when wood like came out and I did get a chance to talk to the crossing guard there just to kind of get a sense of what's happening around during school hours.

And what she had indicated that she's been working there for five years that yes, there is a homeless presence there.

They are around but they are not engaging with the kids or the parents they tend to just kind of you know keep their distance so to speak.

And so I did I did also go and visit the site in the evening as well just to kind of see kind of what type of activity is going on.

I think it was a cold night. I didn't see like a ton of homeless people just loitering around that area.

I will say also I did go into the mart and I did notice quite a bit of alcohol shelves there quite a bit actually so that I think for me.

I definitely made me less comfortable and made me kind of reconsider kind of like what I was proposing which was kind of like a net neutral type of proposal.

And the tension here is you know there's there's a narrative out here that that the safety of the children is being jeopardized.

And I think that in that particular area beyond I think you introduced the idea of hard liquor pushing folks to drive a neighborhood in that neighborhood.

That's kind of what you're trying to minimize. I think in that area the other issue that I saw was just like the high traffic that was going on in that space.

Regardless of whether or not anyone was driving under the influence during school hours and so I just want to say all this because as a planning commissioner.

I'm hearing you I'm listening and and yet at the same time I'm also trying to see if there's a win-win situation here for the community as well as as the business because the business has been operating in the community faithfully serving as you guys have mentioned right and as as a commissioner I'm trying to see is there a way for us to still support local businesses and the owner is trying to be responsive to the community as much as he can.

So with that when I am going to change in in my previous motion is actually a net reduction in alcohol sales for that space.

And so what what I'm proposing I think there are the land use for that space gives the right for seven refrigerated spaces of alcohol sales is that correct.

And so what I am proposing is that we eliminate one altogether and put in an exchange healthy foods such as more vegetables yogurt eggs that I think will be more responsive to what's going on in that neighborhood.

Like as it was mentioned there is an apartment complex there when I was there I saw folks kind of coming in getting groceries I know they already have some space set aside for fresh foods like sandwiches and whatnot and when I went in there and this was in the afternoon like at 2 p.m.

like all of that was pretty much like gone by the afternoon and so I think that there is I think it's reasonable to say let's let's provide more access to fruits vegetables in that space.

And then I think there is another section of that refrigerated space that also can be used for wine and beer sales but I think if we go ahead and eliminate that you know that that to me represents sort of a quite a bit of a net reduction in alcohol sales in general in that space replacing that with more healthy food so it becomes more of like a grocery store type of food.

So what I am proposing is that we limit the shelf space for alcohol sales to for the type B alcohol sales to like 30 square feet behind the counter.

If you have a question that you would like to ask the commenter you can do that.

I'll finish and then I'll give you some space. How's that because I do want to hear I do want to hear a response right from the applicant and the community.

So but I'm just I'm just letting the audience out this is my mindset of which I'm trying to to address the problem right.

And so so that's that's my proposal.

I'm limiting limiting that shelf space to 30 square feet but really at the end of the day eliminating two shells I think from from that space.

As a result for my motion.

I'm just going to say anything else in my notes.

Sorry to take notes.

Yeah so I think in essence with a net reduction in alcohol sales space in that spot with additional space dedicated to fresh fruits and vegetables.

I would then propose and give direction to the the planning staff that in light of that the proposed use and the operating because characteristics are consistent with the general plan.

So if you have any specific applicable specific plan or transit village plan.

The proposed use and the operating characteristics are not detrimental to public health.

Safety convenience or welfare of the persons residing working or visiting.

And so because therefore there would be a net reduction in alcohol sales space in that that corner food mart.

We're the proposed alcoholic beverage sales will not enlarge or encourage the development of a skin row.

And will not result in undue concentration because we're at the end of the day reducing concentration of alcohol sales in that space.

And I think when it comes to whether or not alcohol sales effects redevelopment and economic development in this area.

I think we're again I'm just of the belief that we're arguing about 30 square feet right and of shelf space now.

And so again I think that I'm having a hard time accepting that that's going to interfere with the redevelopment of that area.

So that's my proposal but I would love to hear from the community and the person you're raising their heads.

So I could just kind of get her thoughts and then also the applicant as well and whether or not that's something that is an acceptable solution.

I don't think this issue.

But you could speak in the mic so I can hear.

Thanks.

The issue is not how much the sales are.

The issue is the beer and wine versus hard liquor has creates the problems.

The liquor stores in North Oak Park that had all the crime had hard liquor at them.

The liquor stores on Del Paso Boulevard has hard liquor.

The beer and wine stores are not the ones that have all the crime associated.

And that's the thing I understand what you're saying you think that'll help.

But if you go ask the people in North Oak Park which by the way has turned around since they closed those stores the crime has turned around.

And as you see there's a lot of investment over there too now.

And Del Paso Boulevard still is not getting in the vestment and they continually have crime in the hard liquor stores.

And to his comment about the sales there has been no shootings at Stoney Inn.

There's been no shootings at the other places he mentioned but there has been at the liquor stores.

And a lot of crime is associated with hard liquor stores sales.

So I guess I'm just very cautious about making when we say association equating that to cause because 20 years ago in Oak Park Kevin Johnson invested in the 40 acres project.

And to me that was the economic engine right that started investment in that area.

Well actually I worked for the fire department as an arson investigator and I was working back then over 20 years ago when he did that.

And I talked to community members because there was a few fire bombings and it was directly related to the people who were standing up against the crime.

And they told me these people told me when I was investigating that these liquor stores being closed was one of the reasons too that some of the criminals that were going to these stores creating problems.

And the stores being closed did make a difference.

It was after they closed right after they closed these stores.

I spoke to many community members. Thank you.

Thank you.

Yes, please.

Sure I'd love to hear your comments.

My background includes preventive health.

This is what I did for a living for about, I don't know, 30, 40, 50 years.

I've been retired. I've lived in wood like for 47 years.

I keep waiting for improvement in our neighborhood.

And while your thoughts commissioner, Enoch, are well intended, I don't believe that there is any public health police that would monitor that gas station to make sure that there was healthy food in the neighborhood.

And there is no public police entity that exists that would monitor to see that your well intended vote today proposal would be carried out.

I don't see that happening.

And I'm waiting also for the second coming of North Sacramento for it to be developed.

And perhaps with the recent election of a new councilperson, we might be able to get into some serious dialogue about what needs to happen there.

But that is also a future oriented.

And I just want to leave that thought with you about who's going to police the healthy food department that you want to create at the liquor store in order to allow Mr. Singh to have hard liquor sales.

That's it. Thank you.

Thanks. I think you raised a great question.

I'm going to ask Mr. Norman if he could kind of talk about the execution of that.

I know there's no healthy food police.

Yes, we typically do not monitor these on an ongoing basis.

However, if this were to pass with this healthy foods condition, I will personally put a note on my calendar to go visit and ensure that they are in compliance with that requirement because this is a big issue for the commission and the community as well.

And if any community member who is here saw that owner was in violation of that, they could report that too.

That is correct. We are complaint driven. So if any member of the community found they were out of compliance with the condition, they could report that to 311 and we would investigate and enforce appropriately.

Yeah, I would love to hear your thoughts.

I work in literacy, so I don't have a professional opinion here and a little bit of clarification might be helpful if you're able to provide that.

I think that the idea of the healthy foods is a novel one. Of course, we love the idea of more healthy foods in our community that until very recently was a veritable food desert.

So I'm excited to hear about that, but I do think it's literally apples to oranges.

When we talk about this modification and permit from a beer and wine permit or license to hard alcohol spirits,

it's a concern related to the alcohol content per volume. Yes. That's why there's a distinction between the two.

While I appreciate that having one less refrigerator case is a reduction overall in sales, it's not a one to one in alcohol content, which given the spirit of the distinction feels important in that consideration.

Not one at that location. No, there isn't one. Right. Correct. But so understanding that the land use in that area doesn't really provide for a supermarket, so to speak, right?

What I'm trying to do is, I'm trying to reconfigure that land use and try to memorialize restrictions in such a way that this is now functioning more like a neighborhood grocery store.

Such that if it was more of a neighborhood grocery store, would there be that type of thought? But I think it's because it is a food market, you know, at a gas station, I think that there's definitely some kind of negative vibes that go with that.

And so, so I think what I'm trying to do here is trying to kind of re divert how that space is going to look like with.

Please can we wrap this up quickly? I think the commission has a lot to discuss based on this proposal.

Can I just make one brief comment quickly? Not to speak entirely for all those in opposition to this permit modification, but just stating that this is an issue of location really at its heart.

This is on a supermarket and while it may function as one is is not and is not permitted as one and is in fact in proximity to schools and to a transit hub, which I think is the nature of the concern with much of the opposition here.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And then if I get you to ask the applicant just for the response of their proposal, I'll be outstanding.

So I think I understand what you're trying to say. I think you're trying to give not just us, but the next gas station that comes and the one after that as they start to struggle with fuel sales, a path to becoming something different.

That's what I'm trying to understand. You're going from a convenience store to now. Let's keep you alive by pushing you into kind of like a mini grocery store for the neighborhood.

And I respect that a lot. And I think that that feels fair. It feels fair what you're trying to do. And we are totally okay with that.

Thank you. I yield my time.

One second commissioner chase. I just want to clarify that what is being. Are we having discussion? Are we making a motion?

I just made a motion.

Okay. So the motion is to deny staff recommendation.

Right.

And then replace it with the conditions of approval that you have articulated. Great.

All right. Commissioner Chase.

Thank you, chair.

I think we obviously all know this is probably one of those difficult projects that we've had come through.

At least in my four years on the commission. It's not a huge one, but it's very meaningful.

First of all, I think my kudos to everyone that's been involved in these many multiple continuations, both the staff, the appellant and the community turning out.

And I would also initially like to acknowledge Mr. Singh is from everything we've heard as an excellent operator of this establishment.

I don't think anyone is questioning that.

As far as small business, I grew up and the parents had a small business of academic institutions.

So small grocery stores, a matter of fact, no gasoline, just a grocery store.

And so I very much am in the small business. I totally support small business.

This has been one of the most as a D to resident district to this has been one of the most difficult decisions for me to deal with taking it all into account.

And I just want to kind of touch on some of my considerations that I've looked at here and taken this certainly first of all the quality of the current operator and the support that we've heard for the app, the appellant, the applicant coming in here.

So the opposition of over 200 residents in the community, I think we've got a number of projects I don't recall ever seeing that many people come out in opposition to a project wherever it was.

The school district opposition and I'll get into this a little more detail both from the trustee and from the superintendent of the district as well.

The over concentration of nearby off site, which we've heard in the staff report and others talking licenses in the neighborhood.

And perhaps most important concern about the potential impact on future redevelopment of this area.

This district, which has been neglected for way too long is finally about to it's in the process of working with the neighborhood development action team, the end at which has been working on.

Stockton Boulevard for some time.

We are the second area to have this attention brought to it tremendous potential here and I don't want to have anything get in the way of that.

I don't know if this would be that factor, but again, we have to keep in mind that we need to move forward here.

So some of the considerations concerns that I have as we go forward are really the fact that the staff recommendations pretty nile that you know outlined in page four and five of the staff report.

I think they're valid and I agree with at least two of them.

The whole heartedly.

Again, the community opposition of over 200 residents coming out in opposition of this.

I have to take that into account as I evaluate this this whole thing.

Certainly the school districts opposition.

We've heard mention of safe safe roots to school as a program when I served as deputy state architect we were involved in overseeing public schools and designing construction throughout the state of California.

And safe roots to school was a major program of concern to all schools to make sure if kids can't get to school safely they're not going to be learning very well.

So that is a concern and I think that has been an issue here staff have brought that up and I feel that it is an issue as well.

And I think also the non compliance with policy.

I think EGA so environmental justice 2.16 of the general plan which is discourages alcohol permits for offsite sales and that's in the staff report.

Probably more so I'm concerned about cementing we have a non conforming use here.

The more we do to reinforce that the more likely I think we're adding to the permanence of that non conforming use in this area.

And that concerns me.

I think it's there we're not going to take it away but do we want to add to it?

I don't think so.

But finally the reminder I think that we need to keep in mind is that the CUP is a land use action.

It's not tied to the owner of the operator this property here.

So while right now it's in very good hands it appears there's nothing that guarantees that a future operator would operate in the same manner.

And if we increase the sales in here and increase the non conforming use we don't know what effect that will have on the future development of this area.

You're probably getting a sense of where I'm going with this and what my position is on that but I also do want to hear like commissioning on other commissioners before I vote on this and perhaps depending on what happens to the motion on the table now perhaps make another motion so thank you chair.

Thank you commissioner Chase commissioner blunt.

I first of all thank you to the community for your thoughtful comments and for coming out.

Yeah I totally agree with everyone else's really hard.

You bring up extremely thoughtful points and I at the same time I also I'm sorry I want to thank staff for your hard work and as always you know.

You can submit to really providing us thorough information on these these items and and your patients.

But you know listening to commissioner young's proposal it just makes a lot of sense to me and it's actually something that I would genuinely like to see going forward across the city.

I think there are there's a lot of places where I wish that this was the case you know what you're proposing and yeah so I'm hopeful that like in seconding your motion that I'm encouraging this to be a step forward across the city to have this type of model for you know especially since we are as the petitioner is trying to do is evolved.

You know the the EV model and stuff like that so this I think there's going to be more like this and if it's if it's this sort of thoughtful approach I'm all for it so yes I'd like to second the motion and I yield.

Thank you commissioner blunt commissioner Katie.

Thank you chair and thank you to the the community for for coming out once more and for our comments from the commission so far I think I also agree and think that the sort of compromise that you put forward.

Commissioner young is thoughtful and makes a lot of sense to me and you know it again I think we've talked about this several times now right and to me it's a slight distinction here in the sense that we're not talking about a new establishment right.

This is a business that exists today they already sell beer and wine you know and we're now talking about you know a net decrease in the the area of the store that's dedicated to alcohol which is you know on that you know less alcohol right so you know getting back yeah so I live in Northeck Park right I live.

And that was referenced in a couple of the comments I live about two blocks from from Bonfair which has an active type 21 license right now you know there's certainly some

lettering that happens outside of the that gas station but it as noted has not really had a tremendous impact to me on kind of the the kind of demand and and redevelopment and and kind of revitalization of Northeck Park so to me that that you know I don't think that that is going to have a tremendous impact and you know I think just once again it's a small gas station so you know if the point is to sort of

discourage this business I guess and the hope that it redevelopes you know to me the the farmer likely outcome is that it's just going to sit vacant and you know we talk about light I mean that that to me is a far bigger concern than kind of a change in the type of alcohol that is being sold at the business so I appreciate all the comments but I'll be supporting the motion.

Thank you commissioner Kaden commissioner Thompson just a quick question actually clarifying one so if this moves forward with the conditions approval do those conditions stay with this license since the license is attached to the land so the land will then have a max square footage of spirit sales at 30 square feet.

And based on what.

I don't think it's.

Right okay so that'd be like four shelves essentially maybe three okay great thank you that that was all.

Commissioner Lomas I'm sorry commissioner luckily did you have.

Okay sorry commissioner Lomas.

Thank you chair thank you everyone who's come to speak for the last several meetings the staff and for the comments this evening and commissioner young I appreciate you trying to strike this balance because it is tough right trying to address the concerns from all party.

That have an interest in this particular site I know as a commission we've approved alcohol license sales and other locations and I but with that in mind I do feel like this one is a little bit different given that the threshold that the city has created in their staff report with the five conditions that need to be met.

Makes it different makes it.

A stronger case at the city is making an opposition of approving this license and so I have some you know that makes me try to be a little mindful about whether or not we can approve something like this in this particular location also.

I do have some questions about how the compliance of the healthy food shelf would be administered basic question might be what is a healthy food what is healthy food right.

I know we can think of things off the top of our head like an apple but there might be some things that told the line and I imagine there's other.

I don't know if there's any city departments or county but I know there's state departments and federal departments that have guidelines for what those what is considered healthy food.

But I don't know that there's a program currently placed to kind of operate that and so I have some some concerns about how that that might be administered I do I do support the idea like the idea but I do have some some preparation about.

Thank you.

Commissioner Lamas Commissioner and Nendes.

Thank you Vice Chair I also want to say thank you to staff for all of their time and effort on this for the community for coming out so many times on this hearing as well as my fellow commissioners for their very thoughtful deliberation and consideration of this issue you know for myself coming from.

District six I can understand the community's sense of seeking economic development and investment as well as issues regarding over concentration particularly with cannabis and district six but that's a whole other story I will say that you know the city may has made tremendous strides in that sense by being creative and so I hear the concerns but given that it's a net reduction with the repulsive here today.

I will say that that does help make it make it make sense more for me as well so I would like to support the vice here's motion thank you.

Thank you.

I'll offer some comments really quickly and then we'll call the vote I really appreciate that folks feel really passionately about this on both sides.

This is a really weird parcel and it would be hard to put something else there for quite some time and we are in the midst of this electrification transition it is going to be challenging for businesses so this does seem like

a just transition or at least an attempt at one I really want to appreciate the work that commissioner or vice chair young has done to try to throw the needle here and with that I will be supporting this but I will also be visiting to make sure that there is healthy food I'm totally familiar with this site I love wood like it's a great neighborhood I really want to see redevelopment in Del Paso the one other addition that I might make.

Maybe this I don't think this is a friendly amendment but other businesses in the grid have been asked to consider the price point at which they're selling high hard alcohol and so they've been pushed to or they've offered to focus on high in spirits and that could make this location more of a destination in the neighborhood as a for like a higher end customer than for what I'm going to say.

And for what I think folks are really concerned about which is that there will be a lot of loitering and bad behavior in the vicinity and with that can we take the vote.

Thank you chair. Commissioner's long absent commissioner Chase.

No.

Can we also clarify what is it threshold that needs to be met in order for the item to be proved.

Seven votes.

Commissioner Lamas.

No.

Commissioner Buckley.

Aye.

Commissioner Kaden.

Aye.

Commissioner Hernandez.

Aye.

Commissioner Maasisri.

Absent.

Vice Chair Young.

Aye.

Commissioner Blanc.

Aye.

Commissioner Rishki.

Absent.

Commissioner Thompson.

Aye.

And Chair Wallace.

Aye.

Aye.

Thank you motion passes.

All right.

Thank you everybody.

Any better all the time.

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The site is part of the larger 244 acre

Sacrament of Railyards Development Plan.

The project scope includes an eight story,

312 bed hospital, a five-story medical office,

a two-story central energy center,

a seven-level 1,500-stall parking garage,

a 100 at 99-stall service parking lot,

and a portion of the Stanford walk

located within an easement on private property.

On the slide, you can see the site layout

of the major medical center.

The eight-story L-shaped hospital building

and the adjacent medical office building

are centrally located on the site.

The main parking garage is to the east of the hospital

with the surface parking lot

and central energy center located to the west.

The Railyard specific, I'm sorry,

the Railyard's special planning district

identifies the major medical facility

as a land use that's permitted by right

within the hospital zone.

In this case, the SPD requires that all improvements

are subject to a commission-level site plan

and design review.

Entitlements include an addendum to the subsequent EIR.

Site plan and design review for a major medical facility

with a deviation to exceed maximum parking

and Austrian loading standards.

Conditional use permit to exceed the science standards

and a tree permit to remove eight city trees

and 19 private protected trees.

The applicant is requesting two deviations

for parking and loading and unloading facilities.

The parking areas are highlighted in yellow

on the slide and the loading area

is highlighted in green for reference.

The Railyard's SPD establishes a maximum parking requirement

and the subject project is allowed a maximum

of 1,537 parking spaces

where a total of 1,600 and 99 parking spaces are proposed.

The proposed parking exceeds the maximum vehicle

parking by 162 stalls.

Staff supports a deviation because it provides

parking sufficient to meet the needs

of members utilizing the medical center

in an area based on the operational experience of Kaiser.

The hospital is required to provide 16 loading spaces

based on the sides of the hospital

where five loading spaces are proposed

at the rear of the main building.

Staff supports the deviation

because the operator actively manages deliveries

consistent with the purpose and intent

of loading and unloading standards.

The science standards and the each zone allow

for a limited number of signs,

approximately two signs per street frontage

and any detached signs will be less than six feet in height.

Exceeding this requirement requires review

and approval of a commission level conditional use permit.

This exhibit shows the distribution of signs

throughout the site delineated by oval markers.

The sign program includes 34 signs,

including four skyline signs on the building and parking garage

and various pedestrian level building

signs addresses and ground level signs.

Staff is in support of the conditional use permit

for the sign program to exceed the allowable number

and height of signs to ensure

that the medical facility is easily identified

and to provide sufficient way finding on site.

Staff recommends approving the sign program in its entirety.

This project was noticed to all residents,

property owners, and neighborhood associations

within 500 feet of the subject site.

And the site was posted with a public hearing notice.

Staff has not received any public comments, letters,

or e-comments.

Staff recommends that the Planning and Design Commission

approve the request entitlements based on the findings

of facts and conditions of approval listed

in the staff report and attachments.

The applicant will also be making a presentation

to the commission and we are both available

for any questions that you may have.

That concludes my presentation

and I'm available for any questions.

Thank you.

Thank you.

You have the applicant?

Good evening commissioners.

It's my honor to be here.

I'm Jay Robinson.

I'm the Senior Vice President and Area Manager

for Kaiser Permanente.

I have responsibility for both Sacramento

and soft Sacramento facilities.

Kaiser Permanente is one of the leading healthcare providers

in the United States.

We currently headquartered in Oakland,

but we serve nearly 13 million members across the country

with services in Washington State, Oregon.

Of course, California, Colorado,

Mid-Atlantic, and Georgia.

Here in Northern California,

we have 4.6 Kaiser members, as we call them,

in our Northern California service area.

But here in Sacramento, Sacramento,

South Sacramento and Roosevelt,

we have nearly a million members.

In Northern Cal, we have 21 hospitals

and over 206 medical offices,

nearly 10,000 physicians and almost,

and more than 90,000 employees.

See, here we go on the slides.

Don't think I have the right slide.

Here we go.

Back one, yeah.

Here we go.

I won't spend a lot of time here on our philosophy,

but I do want to call attention to our mission,

particularly the part where we talk about the communities

we serve, and that's one of the reasons

we're proud of Kaiser Permanente.

We really focus on the communities that we serve.

A lot of our staff are very active in the community,

working on community boards,

and offering hundreds of hours of volunteer services

to our communities.

We here in Sacramento, the hospital on Morse,

which opened in 1965,

you can see the picture here of the vintage building.

In our service area, the Sacramento service area,

we have 345,000 members,

and then again for Sacramento,

over 700 physicians and nearly 5,000 nurses and staff

that provide services to our members.

This hospital is licensed for 287 beds,

has 59 treatment bays in its emergency department

and sees thousands of surgeries every year.

Our footprint not only serves the area around the Morse

hospital, but we also serve West Sacramento,

Nautomas, Rancho Codova, and Davis.

Going back to the issue that, again,

a part of our mission to serving the community,

we give out in a year more than $4 million in grants.

We provide medical financial aid to our members,

and we can see here about 5,000,

nearly 5,000 volunteer service hours from our employees.

We spend 241 million in employee and corporate donations

to nonprofits and give back many opportunities

to support our communities in the areas

that I referenced earlier.

We also provide partner outreach to minority owned businesses,

women owned businesses, as well as disabled veteran businesses.

Now I'll turn it to my colleague

to go through the rest of the slides.

Good evening, commissioners.

My name is Tina Wehrmister.

I'm a senior land use planner for Sandland Use Manager

for Kaiser Permanente.

I'm happy to present some of the project details

to you this evening.

Kaiser Permanente is proposing a modern state

of the Art Medical Center to provide high quality

patient services at rail yards serving the greater

Sacramento area.

The city has been planning for the redevelopment

of the rail yard since the early 2000s.

In 2016, the city council updated the specific plan

and other implementing documents

to include the Kaiser Permanente Medical Center.

These actions included adoption of a special planning

district, as well as approval of a development agreement.

These documents permitted the medical center by right.

In 2016, the actions also included adoption

of a subsequent environmental impact report,

which evaluated the build out of the medical center

at the project level.

The proposal before you this evening

is consistent with the prior approvals,

as Sierra mentioned.

It's a 312-bed inpatient hospital,

a hospital support building,

which is basically a specialty medical office building.

A 1,500-star-up-stall parking garage

and additional surface parking,

as well as an energy center building

which houses the infrastructure

to support the hospital facility.

A note about the energy center,

we're proud to share that Kaiser Permanente

Rail yards project is an all-electric facility,

one of the first in California,

and will be lead gold certified.

This is just the same site plan that Sierra shared

and just from a different perspective,

you have the hospital here in the middle

of the hospital support building,

parking, the energy center also known

as the CUP Central Utility Plant,

and then the class one bike lane and Stanford walk

is here between the HSB and the parking garage.

The report provided a thorough overview

of the project entitlements, but to summarize,

as a permitted use,

the project requires site planning, design review,

and the proposal is consistent

with development standards and design guidelines.

Kaiser's requesting a use permit

for the proposed sign program.

The base district, as you heard,

has very limiting signage allowance

and proper identification of the facilities,

and the ability to direct visitors,

patients, service deliveries to the appropriate locations

on site is very important for the secure care facility,

and the code does allow the use permit

to be granted for medical facilities

that provide emergency services.

Kaiser is requesting the parking deviation

for this phase of the buildout,

and just to explain a little bit further,

the special planning district provides

for a maximum amount of parking at buildout,

which is 3,000 spaces in no more than 2,500

salt parking garages, plus 200 at grade spaces.

The special planning district also has a ratio

of allowed parking, you know,

ratio of allowed parking pro-square footage of the building.

So what Kaiser's requesting is a deviation

to exceed the ratio for this phase,

but we are not asking to exceed the maximums allowed by code,

so we would still be under the maximums allowed.

This request will allow for adequate parking for members

and staff and reduce future site disruption

by allowing construction of the garage

to its ultimate size now with mobilization of this project phase.

A tree removal permit is requested,

and the project will comply with the replacement plan

described in the conditions of approval.

And finally, an addendum was prepared for the project

and found that the proposed project would not result

in significant environmental impacts

that were not previously studied in the 2016 EIR.

And we are subject to all of the applicable mitigation measures

in that EIR.

So I wanted to conclude with a summary

of some of our project features.

So we will be delivering a state-of-the-art acute care facility

that will be all electric and lead certified, lead gold certified.

The campus will be bicycle and pedestrian friendly

and include the Stanford Walk Class I bike path.

They'll be outdoor seating in the rest of the areas

and the project will pay $4.3 million

in affordable housing fees to the city as well.

So I'll leave you with just a couple other sites or elevations.

Did I look at?

And that concludes my presentation.

Thank you for your time.

We respectfully request that the commission

approve the Rail Yards Medical Center project,

myself and our technical teams available

to answer any questions that you have.

Thank you.

Point of order, I'd like to ask for disclosures

and recusals from the commission.

So I will start.

I met with the applicant team.

Matters consistent with the staff report.

Vice-Sharon?

I met with the applicant consistent with the staff report.

Okay.

Commissioner Lamus.

I also met with the applicant

and our conversations were consistent with the staff report.

Great.

Commissioner Buckley or Kayden?

Yeah, talk with city staff consistent with the staff report.

Great.

Okay.

And now we have any questions for the applicant or staff

and then we'll do public comment after that.

Vice-Sharon?

Yeah, a question for the applicant.

The signage program is that guided by a specific set

of regulations that for hospitals

or is that just an internal program for signage

that Kaiser tries to execute?

So the, I'm looking at staff, I don't know if they want

to answer that, but so the municipal code

allowed a very small amount of signage.

I think it was only 32 square feet per frontage.

And so we have proposed a sign program that's comparable

to what you see in some of our other facilities.

And it is also, we believe, consistent

with the design guidelines.

Okay, yeah, there is a name.

So this is your own internal requirements,

design requirements of what, okay.

Thank you.

Cute Vice-Sharon, Commissioner Lamus.

Thank you, Chair.

And thank you for the presentation.

Thank you, Senator, the report.

This is a very exciting project.

I worked down the street from here,

off of Richards.

A lot of exciting things happening in the space.

I am curious if you can speak more whether it's staff

or the applicant about the flow of traffic.

How folks will be getting in and out of that space,

especially given that the approval for the MLS station.

Well, we got a new investor,

so that may be forthcoming as well.

So it's gonna be a lot of people in that space.

So I just wonder if you can kind of bring us up to speed

as to what the plans are to manage that.

Sure, so I can start.

So the 2016 specific plan,

amendment and the environmental document,

as well as the traffic study associated with that.

In addition to adding Kaiser,

there were a number of other changes

to the real year specific plan that was considered.

And one of those was review and approval of,

at least in concept of the soccer stadium.

And so that traffic analysis included

consideration of that traffic.

And so within the rail yards area,

you will be seeing or have seen that there are roadways

extended, there are roadways that are being widened

as well as there will be changes to the striping

of some of the streets,

modifications of signals in order to allow

the traffic to flow through in an appropriate way.

I'll add that the site is going to be within

a less than a half mile of the new

seven-street light rail station.

So it would be very walkable from transit

as well as fairly close to the,

the Sacramento Valley station, the Amtrak station.

So it's also very accessible by transit as well.

Perfect, thank you for that.

I appreciate the context.

You commissioner?

Commissioner Katie?

Thank you, Chair.

Yeah, incredibly exciting project

and it feels like one that's been a long time coming

and I feel like when I moved to Sacramento

like 12 years ago, it was like the rail yards

is right around the corner and it's like finally here now

and I think it's in part because there was a realization,

there's a need for these big anchors.

And so I think this hospital is going to be a tremendous anchor

to try to hopefully catalyze a lot of the rest

of the redevelopment in this plan.

So thank you for your work.

So you mentioned kind of the,

and what I heard I guess was the idea behind

it's like exceeding the maximum parking requirements

was to kind of front load I guess the construction

of the garage and just kind of do it all in one go,

recognizing that there'll be future phases after.

If that's, if that's right, I'm wondering if you can maybe just

talk a little bit or I guess disentangle

what we're talking about today versus the future phases.

Sure, so the special planning district

has a maximum square footage that it allowed

for this specific hospital site.

And so there's up to 420 beds,

so we're proposing 312, so there could be,

there's potential for addition to the hospital

itself, the acute care facility.

And there was somewhere in the amount of 500,000 square feet

of medical office building, and of course,

we're only proposing at this point 171,000 square feet.

So there's a, there's a ability for that whole area

to expand as well.

So I can say also that that is what's in the planning,

but we don't have anything in our 10-year capital plan.

I just wanted to make that clear that right now,

this is what we're focusing on in the phase one,

but that there's room for additional expansion

in the future under the, under what was studied

for the planning district.

Understood.

And so is there anything else that you can kind of say

about the timing?

Is it, you said the 10-year capital plan,

so is the idea that you would not really pursue

the future phases, including the medical office for 10 years,

or is there the potential to kind of overlap those timelines?

Or there's no current plans to expand within 10 years.

A lot of our development is going to be trying to push things

that don't need to be in the hospital out of the hospital.

So we're looking at plans to open up what we call hubs

that would be in a very different site.

That being said, would there ever be future demand

where we need to expand that could happen?

But at present, there's no plan within, again,

within 10 years to do that kind of expansion.

We feel that the current plan will meet our needs

certainly for the next decade.

Great.

Thank you.

I think this maybe is for staff.

So I was reading through in conditions of approval, B51.

It says that the applicant shall make provisions for bus stops,

maybe a typo, for bus stop, the satisfaction

of the Department of Public Works in consultation

with regional transit.

And I guess I'm wondering if maybe staff can kind of speak

to the coordination, I guess, that's happened so far,

with Sakartee specifically related to bus stops

located outside the hospital.

So staff and Kaiser and Sacramento Regional Transit,

we've all been meeting.

We've had multiple meetings during the review process.

This is an offsite improvement for the project.

This, what is being entitled tonight

is for all onsite improvements.

And then we worked with public works

and all the conditions of approval for offsite improvements

will be engineered later in the building process.

So that also includes the bus stop.

Although we work in conjunction with Sacramento Regional Transit,

ultimately the city determines where the bus stops will be located.

So that's an ongoing discussion.

That also includes the discussion includes where it will be located,

how much space you need to get a bus in and out of the curb

loading area, and then where it's located on both sides

of the street, north and south.

So those are, we have discussed those,

but the ultimate location has not been determined yet.

Okay, so the outside of that condition of approval,

we are not acting on any of that tonight.

And I guess the follow-up would be,

is there a future entitlement for which like that would come

to this body or is that entirely just negotiated

between public works and the applicants and RT?

Correct.

So what's being entitled tonight is all onsite improvements,

private property, all the conditions of approval for public works

are for the offsite improvements.

We can say that there will be a bus stop location,

where the bus stop will be located

is ultimately up to the city to decide.

And that's our public works department.

Great, thank you all for your time.

Thank you, Commissioner.

Commissioner Thompson.

I always double push it.

Thank you for the presentation, everyone.

So question on the parking component.

I like to hear that it's phased.

You guys are putting it all in one.

I think that's a fantastic move,

especially maximizing the amount that you can put

in one structure saves a lot of the land space

for other things.

So kudos, also side kudos to having an all-electric site.

That's fantastic.

And thank you for leading the way in that.

So as far as the phasing is concerned,

the intent isn't, as you're facing

at the additional buildings in the past 10 years from now,

is that intended to also bring in an additional parking

structure to house?

More parking for that or is this,

are we talking about this parking structures?

I would anticipate that we would need additional parking

structure.

Yes.

Okay, and so then once that one does come,

it's still looking at maintaining that original max requirement

of the 3,000 spaces total,

and that this request right now for the overages just

for the temporary.

So that second parking structure would be maxed

at whatever that difference is in between what you're

asking for today and the 3,000.

Correct, that we would intend to comply with the maximums.

Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner.

Commissioner Chase.

Thank you, Chair.

I'd like Commissioner Caden.

I've also been looking forward to this project moving forward

for quite a while.

What is the projected, do you propose timeline

on the development?

Of this development, this phase?

Yes, so we provided that the commission does approve us

and there's no appeal.

We would look to start pulling building permits

as early as January, February,

and we anticipate the construction timeline

to be about four to five years.

Thank you.

Are you?

Yes, Commissioner, in case I have a question really quick,

and then we'll see if there's any public comment.

This comes from a previous planning commissioner

who was very interested in architectural elements,

in particular of the parking structure.

And so the note comes, question is,

vehicle headlights and tall lights should be screened

from street view, and he's an architect

and was unable to determine if the exterior walls

screened the vehicle lights.

And I had some back and forth with staff about that.

That there is perhaps like we have exceeded

or we have met the limit of how much screening can be made

and I was just hoping you could articulate that

a little bit more for our benefit.

Sure, I'd like to have our architect

for most of them Smith Group.

I'm up to address that question.

Thank you, everybody.

The garage is utilizes an upturn beam

around the entire perimeter that's three feet tall,

which should block the view of the outgoing headlights.

This typical on all sides.

Chair Wallace, Carlo Felix,

Senior Planning with Community Development.

If I could add conditional approval number B12

on page 34 of your staff report,

does include a conditional approval relating

to the ceiling mounted lights.

It does require that they be downward facing recessed

and or shielded to reduce glare

specifically towards Stanford walk.

So in addition to the wall that Mr. Moose described,

there is this additional condition of approval as well.

Thank you.

Are there any other questions for staff

or the applicant?

All right.

Clerk, are there any public comments for this item?

Thank you, Chair.

I have no speakers for this item.

Great.

Okay, so we are at the point of additional questions,

comments or motions from the Commissioner Chase.

Thank you, Chair.

I move approval this project.

Motion from Commissioner Chase.

Commissioner Kate Buckley.

I'll second the motion.

And the second from Commissioner Buckley.

Any discussion?

Seeing none.

Let's call the vote, please.

Thank you, Chair.

Commissioner Zon, absent.

Commissioner Chase.

Aye.

Commissioner Lamas.

Aye.

Commissioner Buckley.

Aye.

Commissioner Caden.

Aye.

Commissioner Hernandez.

Aye.

Commissioner Mossis Reed.

Exhausted.

Vice Chair Young.

Aye.

Commissioner Blunt.

Aye.

Commissioner Rishki.

Exhausted.

Commissioner Thompson.

Aye.

Inture Wallace.

Aye.

Thank you.

The motion passes.

Thank you.

Congratulations, everyone, on their hard work on this effort.

Thank you.

Okay.

Is item number four.

Whoever may be screaming self-str tangled.

P24-014. Are there any disclosures or recusals for this item?

Commissioner Hernandez.

I spoke with the representative of the applicant consistent with staff report.

Thank you. Vice Chair Young.

I met with the representative of the applicant consistent with the staff report.

Commissioner Chase.

I had a phone conversation with the applicant consistent with the staff report.

I also had a conversation with the applicant consistent with staff report.

Commissioner Lama.

I had email correspondence with the applicant but we were unable to connect.

Great. Now we have a presentation.

Good evening commissioners. Hope you're all doing well today.

I prepared a short presentation today. I'll be going over the

presentation. The project is location and the requested entitlements and the

applicant will be providing additional details related to the project.

So once again this is agenda item number four. File number P24-014 for

corporate wave green haven self storage. I'm Angel and General with your community

development department. The project is generally located south of

Park City Drive, east of Green Haven Drive and northwest of corporate

park. The project is located west of highway five and is located in district seven

represented by councilmember Jennings. The project that's located is shown on the

screen, outline and red. The requested entitlements include a resolution

adopting the adendum to the previously proved corporate way environmental

document, a rezone of 2.27 acres. The amendment to the green haven

is the PUD guidelines and schematic plan. Conditional use permit to establish a

mini storage facility and the site plan is an area to construct a three-story

hundred and 152,625 square foot facility.

On the screen is the proposed rezone. The request is to rezone 2.27 acres

from office business. Executive airport overlay and green haven

park PUD. The proposed rezone is consistent with the general plan and land use

designation and general plan policies. The PUD schematic plan and guidelines

amendment include a redesign of those 2.27 acres from office to commercial and

update to the commercial signage sex within the PUD and the

update to the signage code and other tax amendments to clean up some of the

language within the PUD to reflect today's development standards and processes.

A conditional use permit to operate a three-story

minestore facility. The proposed hours operation are 9 a.m. to 7 p.m. Monday

through Saturday and it's closed on Sundays. The applicant anticipates to hire

between 46 employees. On the screen is the proposed site plan.

Corporate ways on the east side of the building.

It's set back approximately 25 feet per give or take.

There's a EVA access that's also shared for tenants that wraps around the entire perimeter of the building.

The site plan is there. The applicant is proposing to construct three

stories, 152,000 square feet for a climate controlled minestore

building. Approximately 700 square feet will be dedicated for the office

slash break room. The minestore units will range between the size of 25 to 300 square feet

and there's also going to be a watch person quarters in the building.

With that staff is recommending approval of the proposed project and ask that the

commission for the recommendation to City Council for approval.

Thank you.

Thank you, Angel. Clark, do we have any speakers for the

commission?

Thank you, Chair. I have no speakers to list on this item.

Great. All right. That was the time for Commissioner comments, questions or

motions. Commissioner Lamas.

Thank you, Chair. I had a question for staff in terms of the on site living

in the office. I don't know if this is a person who manages the office or is this

like a intent security. Is that common for these types of developments or is this

unique to this particular location?

It's pretty typical for these storage facilities to provide a watch person

that's more of a security operational requirement for them. It's commonly seen across

other storage facilities in the city.

I might have missed the first part of the question.

That was it. I was just trying to get a sense of the on site security and I was surprised

to see that there's someone there regularly and they have a living quarters for them,

which I think is helpful.

I think that's one of the reasons we did request that and the applicant was willing to do

that. It was an active use there. There was some concern that having a self-storage

facility is just a dead space. We figured by having that there once again, it's an

active base. It also provides that security so that was a win-win.

Perfect. Thank you.

One other thing I'd like to mention. In my presentation, I mentioned that I was going to be

an addendum. I just want to clarify it's actually a neck deck to the corporate way

environments document. That's all.

Thank you, Commissioner Lamis.

Commissioner Chase.

Thank you, Chair. Angel, thank you for answering my questions the other day on the parking issue.

I have one further parking question, though, and you exhibit a section five parking area

standards. It says minimum stall dimensions so correspond to standards provided by the

city. You've eliminated the typical overhang extending a sidewalk to act as a curb.

Then also no individual prefabricated wheel stop would be permitted.

How will wheels be, cars be stopped from going beyond their parking space?

Yeah, Angel is reminding me of that when that's going to come and up not to this body,

but up to optometry across the street. I know that's in the, I think that I believe that's

going to be the key to the PUD guidelines as far as not having the prefabricated stop there.

The concern I guess is what would stop the cars from going further there?

I mean, typically it's having designed many projects. Typicals in either or either the wheel stops,

which I totally do not recommend there are trip hazards, but typically the extension of a sidewalk

of the car is very typical and probably the best solution.

I think, well we do have the applicant here, so I think if you want to suggest or recommend that as an

amendment, I staff doesn't have any opposition to that.

Would you like to ask the applicant? Yeah, would you like to approach the podium?

Good evening, Chris Schultz, TSD engineering. Robert, good question.

I think we worked in the past together. That's what we're doing.

And super familiar. That's why we get the view. You should know this one.

So what we're doing is we're not going to do wheel stops. What we've done is extended the sidewalks to exceed six feet or more.

That would allow a vehicle to overhang sidewalks by two feet and still provide our 48 inches clear.

And then where we butt up against landscape in a couple spots, we just got to make sure we have

low growing shrubs within that two feet. And so, and hopefully that answers your question.

It does. I would suggest rather than relying on the shrubs, which will die from the engine overheat,

extend the paper. There's pros and cons to the wheel stops.

My insurance carrier doesn't like them. Oh, nobody likes wheel stops, free standing, absolutely not the dangerous.

All right. There's any other questions for us to come back here too.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner Chase. I have some questions.

I think they are for staff. Let's see. These are sort of related to the comment letter that was in the staff report.

Could you speak to why there are not the, we are not considering other land uses for the site and are comfortable with this transition to commercial for the specific project.

We did consider other land uses. You know, ideally we looked at, you know, we'd like to possibly see housing there, but because of the executive airport overlay, that was not permitted there.

So the uses are limited.

The site, you see from what we've heard from the property owner and with the applicant, they have tried to market that to more like a commercial or retail use and it's just been unsuccessful.

So for years, it's that vacant. Like I said, this, we have our paintings of sell storage, but we figure that there is a need for that in the area.

There is a sell storage facility not too far away. Angel double checked on that today and there are over 90% full.

So that demand is there. And once again, we, we did try to make sure that we activated the project as far as with the street foresighted architecture, the security being present.

So that's, but we did consider other land uses.

Thank you. And you answered my other question with the other nearby facility is almost at capacity. So thank you.

That indicates there's demand for that. Next, we have Commissioner Buckley.

Thank you, chair. My question kind of piggybacks that a bit. My kid is actually going to preschool. That's right on the other side there.

And I appreciate that the, it looks like the entrance is just about as far away as you could possibly get from the school.

My question is just thinking about how these two uses might interplay. I guess two questions.

First, will the fire lane that goes around there be closed off to the users of the facility and sort of just use her fire?

Or like, I don't know, safety purposes or would be sort of what kind of activity might we consider happening on that backfire lane that goes between the school and the facility?

Or is that a closed space?

I think it's a figure four proposed site plan.

We can also have the applicant if that would be easier.

If the cap can answer that.

My name is Margot Conley, president of development for Banner storage group. Thank you again for being here tonight.

The fire lane that goes all the way around the driveway is actually closed off. So it is only accessible to the fire department.

However, the manager's apartment, which I was going to also answer your question as well, they do have access around.

And they'll be like a key code, like a FAB, to be able to go around that. And then the fire department will work with us as well.

And they will have the access to that gated area.

And then the manager's apartment with everything that you said, Angel, as well, is also a benefit to actually one of the employees as well.

Affordable housing, as you guys know, things are getting very expensive. And it's just a benefit for the employee manager on site.

Obviously, they can't work 24 hours, but it is an added point of security. Thank you.

Thank you. Appreciate that. Where is the manager's site? I'm actually probably the rest of my questions are probably for you, too.

I would stand up here to thank you. So the manager's apartment is actually on the north end of the property.

And I don't know if I have closer to the driveway. Yeah, closer to the school.

Can I do this? Can I lay it on there? Or no, it says unavailable. I did not know that so apologize. So yeah, it's actually on.

I don't know if you can pull up the site plan. Okay.

Yeah, perfect. Oh, it's working. Great. So like it's just the manager's parking is right here.

And then this is actually the manager's apartment. And then this is the patio area. We gave them a private patio landscape area as well.

Okay, that's really helpful. I was thinking, you know, better proximity to maybe that fire lane space in case anything does happen in that space.

You know, it'd be great to have the manager's eyes on that since it's a close space to the school.

And then the other question I had, as did the school have any.

Have any comment on the project?

We sent out public hearing notices and we didn't hear back.

Thank you. That's all my questions. Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, Commissioner Buckley.

Any additional questions, comments or motions from the.

Motion or blood?

So I.

A similar project to this a storage facility project happened off of Richard's Boulevard.

You know, this isn't directed towards the applicant specifically or the staff.

But I just wanted to give a heads up that when this went when this project happened, there was a lot of wage stuff that happened at that project.

And so, you know, just be aware that this is these types of projects are.

Well, workers get taken advantage of.

And so I just want to let you know that it's just something to keep an eye out for and try to try to combat specifically for this project going forward.

With that, I'm motion to pass this.

Thank you, Commissioner Blunt.

Commissioner Caden.

Second.

Anything you want to add, Commissioner Chase?

I was going to second.

Okay. Great. All right. Let's call the vote, please.

Thank you, Chair. Commissioner Zalm.

Saapsent. Commissioner Chase.

Aye.

Commissioner Lamas.

Aye.

Commissioner Buckley.

Aye.

Commissioner Caden.

Aye.

Commissioner Hernandez.

Aye.

Commissioner Mastisri.

Saapsent.

A Feist your young.

Aye.

Commissioner Blunt.

Aye.

Commissioner Rishki.

Saapsent.

Commissioner Thompson.

Aye.

And Chair Wallace.

Aye.

Thank you. The motion passes.

Okay. Thanks, everybody.

Okay.

We're winding down.

Commissioner comments, ideas and questions.

Anything we can say to you this evening?

It's the end of the year.

Commissioner Lamas.

I guess I just want to say I didn't realize it was Commissioner Buckley's last meeting.

Yeah.

Yeah, thanks.

Thanks for your insightful comments.

I get the good fortune to still work with him at the California Department of Housing Commute

Veltment.

But I've enjoyed our time here and all your insight for the work we've done together.

Thank you.

Thanks.

Thank you, Commissioner Lamas.

I'm just going to steal Commissioner Hernandez's thunder and say happy holidays to everybody.

And it's been a pleasure working with you.

This is my second to last meeting as the Chair.

And I have enjoyed working with all of you.

And I think this is the best adjudicative body that exists in the city.

It was a mouthful.

Staff.

And staff.

Exactly.

I just wanted to say it's been a pleasure just serving alongside all of you guys this year.

It's been a fantastic time.

I have learned so much from each of you.

I also wanted to just give props to Maya for just doing an awesome job as the Chair.

And it was hard.

So I just want to give.

And I don't know what your future endeavors are as well.

But I did want to just say thank you for serving and just being a mentor to me as well.

And giving me insights to all the happenings in SAC.

Always do that.

I am actually not leaving the commission for another six months.

Unless the mayor wants to fill the other wife's.

Yes.

Okay.

So Commissioner Chase.

Thank you, Chair.

I also want to thank you for your time and your contributions to this commission.

You've been very, very valuable.

I really appreciate it.

I, some of us, I've, you know, just been reappointed to another four-year term.

And because this does, you know, it's quite a commitment.

I know you've got other things that are getting into.

It's a commitment to the sense that my wife and our new City Council are asking,

are you sure you want to do another term?

I'm glad I'm here.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Enjoy your family.

All right.

Clerk, do we have any public comments for matters on the agenda?

Thank you, Chair.

I have no speaker slips for this item.

All right, then.

We are adjourned.

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