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commissioners I wanted to give a little bit of background for this one. So each year

the staff assists the commission in putting together an annual report looking back at

the accomplishments of the commission over the prior calendar year and then the commissions

are also offered the opportunity to make any sort of recommendations that they would like

to make to the personnel and public employees committee or PMP committee and to City Council

as part of that annual report. So on November 14th of this last year the planning and

design commission discussed its 2024 annual report and decided to include a recommendation

in that report to PMPE that the committee should in consultation with the commission

explore reducing the number of planning and design commission seats from 13 to 11 seats

and also looking at perhaps changing the number of affirmative votes required to pass

a motion. So I want to let the commission know that at our next meeting on April 10th

there will be an item on the agenda for the commission members to discuss this recommendation

and provide input to the PMPE committee on that recommendation. So again this is just

agendizing it so that the topic can be discussed by the commission and we can gather your

information and your thoughts on that so there won't be any action taken at that time.

Just let you know if that's coming up at the next meeting. Thank you chair.

Thank you. Our next item of business today is the approval of the consent calendar.

Clerk are there any members of the public who wish to speak on the consent calendar?

Thank you chair. I have no speaker slips on this item. Are there any commissioners?

Is there a motion or a second to pass the consent calendar? I'll vote to pass the consent

calendar. I'm not going to motion to pass the consent calendar.

Thank you. Commissioner Hernandez.

Second. Thank you. First and second. Will the clerk please call the roll for the vote?

Thank you chair. Commissioners please unmute. Commissioner Lee.

Aye. Commissioner Lamas. Aye. Commissioner Nibbo.

Aye. Commissioner Caden is absent. Commissioner Hernandez.

Aye. Commissioner Mastis Reid is absent. Commissioner Ortiz.

Aye. Commissioner Blunt. Aye. Vice Chair Chase.

Aye. Commissioner Rishki.

Aye. Commissioner Thompson. Aye.

And Chair Young. Aye. Thank you. The motion passes.

All right. We'll now proceed with the public hearing calendar. Item two is

leisure lane gas station P22 037. Before the staff presents I would like to ask the commissioner,

the commission first if there are any recusals, disclosures.

Commissioner Hernandez.

Oh sorry I bypassed you by accidentally sorry go ahead.

Okay thank you I received an email from the applicant consistent with staff report.

Thank you. Commissioner Lee. Yes I received an email and had a phone call with the applicant

consistent with the staff report.

Thank you Commissioner Lamas. I received an email from the applicant.

I'm sorry an email from the applicant consistent with the staff report.

And so did I. Thank you.

Oh Commissioner Rishki and Chase.

I received it did not follow up or contact the applicant.

All right. Let's see here.

There's a staff presentation. Thank you.

Good evening commissioners.

Chair Young. My name is Jose Quintanilla, associate planner with the Department of Community Development.

This item is P22 037 leisure lane gas station, which is a request to construct a six pump gas station

and convenience store with pharmacy and to establish alcohol and tobacco sales on an approximately

.93 acre vacant site in North Sacramento.

The site is located immediately adjacent to state route 160s eastbound leisure lane exit.

The site is owned general commercial or C2 and has a 2040 general plan land use designation

of commercial mixed use. Commercial mixed use areas are recognized in the general plan as fostering

vibrant retail and commercial centers of varying scales throughout the community.

The site is adjacent to a freeway on ramp and off ramp and is near several commercial

businesses and services including hotels, self storage, a medical facility, a car wash and a

Costco. It is access to leisure lane and is served by existing infrastructure.

The area is experiencing incremental growth of the remaining vacant sites.

As can be seen on the map on screen that is an older city area and overlaid over it is a more

recent Google maps image. Generally the property south of SR 160 are predominantly a mixture of

light industrial commercial and office uses. This project requires approval of a conditional

use permit to allow a gas station in the C2 zone, a conditional use permit to allow

tobacco retail, a conditional use permit to allow alcohol sales for offsite consumption

limited to beer and wine. Site plan and design review for a construction of the project and a

tree permit for the removal of three private protected trees. The proposed six pump gas station

is considered a large gas station because it can simultaneously fuel more than 10 vehicles at a time.

Each pump can accommodate two vehicles simultaneously. City code allows large gas station with a

CUP if the site is located within 500 feet of freeway right away. The property directly abuts

SR 160. Consistent with general plan policy, LUP 4.13, the project will provide 12 direct current

fast charger electric vehicle charging stations at a ratio of one charging station

per fueling position.

Tobacco sales are proposed with the convenience market as well. A CUP is required for new tobacco retailers

pursuant to title five of the city code if the site is located within a thousand feet of an

existing tobacco retailer, 10% of shelf space must be devoted to fresh and healthy foods and no

more than 5% of total shelf space can be devoted to tobacco products. The site is located roughly

900 feet from an existing tobacco retailer and therefore is subject to comply with these requirements.

The tobacco retailing CUP includes a number of conditions to ensure safe operation,

specifically all tobacco products are required to be sold behind the cash register.

Window advertisements of tobacco products is prohibited and it memorializes the healthy food

requirement and tobacco square foot limitations required under title five.

The applicant is also requesting to sell beer and wine for off-site consumption, which also

requires a CUP. With this process, the applicant applied to the Department of Alcoholic Beverage

Control or ABC to initiate the public convenience or necessity or PCN determination.

On December 24, 2024, the police department determined that the PCN can be issued

for the sale of beer and wine provided and provided protest conditions to ABC, including size

restrictions. General plant policy EJ 2.16 discourages unhealthy uses, including off-site alcohol

sales and tobacco retailing for areas that are within a disadvantaged community. If the location

is near a food desert, school, or pedestrian priority area, the location is within a disadvantaged

community, but the site is not in a food desert, it is not within close proximity to a school,

or walking path at least to a school, and it is not within a pedestrian priority area.

Staff also evaluated the proximity of the establishment to nearby sensitive uses and found

its proximity to sensitive uses is rather minimal, particularly because the area south of SR 160

is a mix of light industrial, commercial, and office uses, and it is bifurcated from more

community oriented and residential areas north of SR 160. Similar to the tobacco CUP, the alcohol

includes a number of conditions to ensure safe operation, and these include video surveillance,

covering points of sale, all alcohol displays, store entrances, and parking areas. A good

neighbor condition requiring 24-hour emergency contact information be posted in a conspicuous

area. Alcohol sales are limited between 6 a.m. and midnight each day, and shelf space for alcohol

has been capped to a total of 280 square feet, with 250 square feet for refrigerated beer,

and 30 square feet for unrefigurated wine. Site plan and design review is required for construction

of the convenience store gas station and all associated site improvements. The project requests

no deviations to applicable development standards. The site will be accessed by a 30-foot,

a 30-foot, 5-foot wide driveway on leisure lane. A traffic operational analysis was completed,

which confirmed that the proposed design meets all circulation and safety requirements.

Additionally, the project to Estrella on Screen will provide a new marked crosswalk at leisure lane,

which includes a rectangular rapid flashing beacons or RRFBs, a dedicated 6-foot wide class

to bicycle lane, street trees, and sidewalk improvements. These are some renderings of the proposed project.

The final entitlement is a tree permit to remove three private protected trees. The trees to be

removed include a 12-inch blue oak, a 25-inch valley oak, and a 24-inch valley oak. These trees are

denoted in red circles on the site plan on Screen with the outline of the building shown as well.

The trees are proposed for removal because they conflict with the most feasible building placement

of the convenience store and associated fueling facilities. The applicant has provided a replacement

plan for the loss of 61 inches with 32 inches in the form of new trees, and the remaining 29 inches

are met with the payment of in-luthies. Notification of the project in this hearing were provided to

all neighborhood associations, residents, and property owners within 500 feet of the site,

and additionally an emailed notice of public hearing was sent to all who provided email comments.

Staff receive approximately four dozen comments, the majority of in opposition to the project.

Concerns raised were related to traffic health and the city's climate goals.

The project completed a traffic analysis and found no impact. A health risk assessment was also

completed and no impacts were filed. Lastly, there is no prohibition of gas stations within the

climate action plan, and the project was found to be consistent with the city's general plan and

provides 12 EV fast chargers to help improve EV charging availability in North Sacramento and for

SR 160 commuters. Staff recommends approval of the project desk condition as the required

findings for all requested entitlements can be made as outlined in the staff report.

Any person that is dissatisfied with the planning and design commission's decision may appeal the

decision to the city council within 10 days after the commission's action. Appeals for this project

specifically must be filed no later than 4 p.m. on April 7th. Further information is shown on

screen and additional instructions including submission instructions can be found on the appeal form.

This concludes my presentation. Staff and the applicant team are available for any questions.

The applicant also has a presentation. Thank you.

Good evening ladies and gentlemen. So I am here to present myself introduction and my project

introduction. I sent emails to all of you and tried to reach out to the community to explain

myself and this is just an introduction and I'm here to answer any question, any concerns to

solve this. So this is my introduction and engineer with 25 years experience in the development

projects, in the community development projects and the oil and gas fields, refineries,

petrochemical plants and the idea for Osprey and Milestone is basically I, this is the next slide.

So the idea for this gas station is to bring the real convenience, true meaning of convenience in

terms of the convenience store as the future plan to go out of the gas to be further instead of

ICEs to go for the EVs and other green energy fuels. So the idea is to place a project which is

self sustainable gas free development area if there is no gas the business should sustain.

Most of the gas stations will fail and that should not be the attitude for the new development.

So I created three to four business heads here. Basically pharmacy was came from the nearby

woodland community, esteemed members and I embrace it, I put it,

a commercial kitchen and see convenience store and the masnid floor we try to create some healthy

environment for the golfers and rooftop seating with the member access only for the safety and

security and 20 seats on the rooftop and then 20 seats on the on the sides and these are a few

of the pictures and 50% as per the city's standard 50% green trees sharing we put it the way we

didn't ask for any deviation is some videos for the development and actual actual development will

be much better than that. So these videos are just for the for an idea to provide you what it will

look like is a double ceiling height with maximum use of the natural light for the pleasant

environment to be in and less energy usage. Whole building will be

operated through electricity no gas uses except the kitchen area and we introduced a few of the

very creative cutting edge technology that new AI empowered like robot function when you go

into store robot well welcome you and then for any assistance for any any any question and

robot will be answered and take you to the place like you want Scotch tape or paper or a pen so it

will take you to the place you can even check out with the robot and there are order tabs in the

store we created. Next slide will be a few more this is the I was talking about the robot and

you can we will have an app you can order through app and go and just pick up the stuff and it

will be with the home delivery to and this is a very unique idea and more convenient we introduced

fresh fruit and fresh juices like directly vending machine with the fresh juice and

office part for the busy people they are on the go so they can use the the soundproof office

part with the printing facility we added pharmacy there's no pharmacy in within I play three

mile radius it's a very inconvenient for the local community the one pharmacy is with the

members only so it will be a great addition for the community service and no wait cues

cue like the regular pharmacy and we added here in the commercial kitchen with the very

kind of for the focus will be like healthy food not refrigerated raw material to be used just

like in and out and grill items and roasted items mostly smoothies coffee fresh fresh ground coffee

so we will try to put and get the feedback from the customers more whatever they need it and

the machine floor you as you see that there's like 12 to 15 people party area to one while

you're charging your car you can have eat your food have a decent eating eating place sitting

place and all you can have a some some knocks for to play and have a good time with the friends

we we added gift section which is not in a normal convenience store like costly items to like

busy people like sometime it happens to me I'm working and then oh my wife's birthday

so we have to go Molly's clothes and stuff so gift items for the selected and then stationery

travel section there's no other convenience store they carry travel section

will be very specific with the convenience truly convenience for the for the busy people and

the neighborhood to to survey so these are like fresh fruits landing machines for the fresh juices

so there will be a notice board like a community newsboard for the local news for the community and

we have a man monitoring of the cameras for the safety and security of the customers and

employees and for the healthy environment so it will be like two-way audio interaction it will

ensure the safety and security and the services quality because the that functional that services

is included with the key performance indicators which is industry specific like customer service

specific about the theft, burglary or long hour cues long cues in the busy hour and in order to

reduce that to improve the quality of the service so we added that function here and pretty much

the and also the the most important is the the hiring policy will be nearest you live in this

gas station area so you will be the first person to be to be hired we will give a chance with the

equal opportunity and we are not afraid to hide local near because because many people they

don't hire it because of the employees have kind of race so we have monitoring continuous man

monitoring we don't have any problem and we want to be positive addition to the community and whoever

will be living near less mile radius you live you will get the first chance to be hired and the

the location of this gas station is between the two major metro areas like downtown Sacramento and

then big metro area for Roseville Rockland so the commuters mainly drive from here so it will be

more tax collection for the commuters which are daily commuters normally and then more job creation

more tax creation for the city and this this corner is a very weird shape it's like a

like a teardrop and it's very difficult to plan a project like this of this this magnitude and

and because it's not worth of of any other development design to put and make it sustainable the

the biggest thing is you develop a project if it is not sustainable maybe after you in two

years five years it will go out of business that that's not an intention here and we try to

utilize this corner in a best possible way even without gas market the business will sustain itself

thank you

clerk are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item oh sorry I'm sorry I didn't

know I'm also a bowl of our construction yeah yeah apologies I'm just going to do a quick wrap

up here first of all thank you very much the honorable planning commission and everyone who

showed up here to speak on this project we really appreciate public input and getting to get

more out of this we want to acknowledge we understand changes is a difficult thing and because of

the change we've made a tremendous amount of changes to these plans in order to make it more

effective for the neighborhood and more conducive for what they're looking for there

we went out we met with people in their homes we met with people in the street we met with

people any place that we could meet them including at a HOA from those conversations we heard over

and over again the lack of accessibility to a pharmacy that was a non-member pharmacy would be

a wonderful thing in the neighborhood given the number of CVS's that have decided to close up

we also recognize that the pharmacy isn't the only thing that's needed in the area we recognize

that fresh food is something that needs to be available and that the all of the stuff that goes

with that that we need something more healthy than what we've been seeing in convenience stores for

a long time what this store does is change the way that a convenience store works and it actually

is convenient for the way that we live today the building itself uses electricity everywhere that

we possibly could with the exception of the kitchen appliances and we've committed to the idea

that we're going to keep this as something that always is addressing the needs of the public and

what it is that they need as they're going by this thing and finally I want to say that I truly

believe that this project will address the critical gaps that are in the neighborhood of the

convenience store of the pharmacy of the services for healthy food options the offer for job experience

for people in the neighborhood and to deliver an actual modern convenience store to the area thank

you guys very much oh I'm Jake Allen and I'm with Boulevard Construction thank you

all right thank you clerk are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item thank you chair

I have 11 speaker slips our first speaker is Pat

good evening members of the commission I'm back representing the Woodlake Neighborhood Association

planning committee and we oppose this proposal because in fact there are 18 gas stations within four

miles so we don't need another gas station we know that gas stations are not appropriate for the future

I know that they're trying to make it look fancy dancing with a pharmacy well if you're going to do

a pharmacy there are some major problems with pharmacies these days skyrocketing drug problems

the medications oftentimes are short have shortages there's a shrinkage of the source of people

to work in pharmacies there is a need for greater automation in the system and there's a need for

more efficiency and more patient care related to that there are a lot of regulatory things that

are needed in order to have a real pharmacy these will be time consuming and costly and quite frankly

I don't believe that this family is able to fulfill that the reason why I say that is that in

the family is the bond fair properties and at north gate I took a picture and I know it won't show up

but on Sunday that property had a pile of garbage 10 feet tall 5 feet wide and it's supposed to be

a gas station with this family I don't think that's what we need in our neighborhood there are many

other better uses for this property we could have another medical facility we could have a complete

pharmacy we could have a dog park we could have a park space so anyway I think that we need not to

approve this project thank you for your time thank you for your comment move on to the next our

next speaker is Mary

commissioners thank you for the few seconds to boot up my comments I object to the

proposed leisure lane gas station because of the harm to air quality of the neighborhood including

children with developing lungs and the proximity to other area gas stations the city climate action

and an adaptation plan to 2045 has as a goal carbon neutrality this means reducing vehicle miles

traveled and Greece greenhouse gas emissions by 57% caused by driving cars further the American

lung association currently rates Sacramento air quality seventh worst out of 228 metropolitan areas

and ninth worst for 24 hour particle pollution out of 223 metropolitan areas these are the fine

particles that lodge in one's lungs that they're talking about as mentioned by Pat there are

18 existing gas stations in many parts in the area 12 are open 24 hours a day including the

chevron that I was here testifying about earlier to you that's just a half mile north the cost

co gas station on Expo Parkway has lines of cars idling and spewing tailpipe emissions across

the street we have a senior living facility next door to that a physical rehabilitation facility

and a block away a mental health facility this is these are people who are vulnerable with their

help various health conditions additionally two new hotels three apartment complexes will soon

open nearby half a mile away an elementary school is filled with growing children under the age

of 12 which operates nine months out of the year and their lungs are still developing I urge you to

vote no on this proposed gas station surely the property owner can find another use for this parcel I

haven't even addressed the trees that cleanse the air that they are proposing to take down please spare

the air and our health thank you for listening to me thank you for your comment our next speaker is

Georgina hi my name is Georgina so do you I am also part of the wood lake neighborhood

I myself I oppose this proposal and I'm about to read a letter from a John Walker which is an

administrator from one of the health facilities in in front of the of the new lot so to whom it

may concern my name is John Walker and I help to run the skilled nursing facility located at

1411 Expo Parkway in Sacramento we have watched as a community around us has grown and improved

we are extremely excited to see this corner of Sacramento journey into a health care hub for those

that need us the most the population that I get to assist are the elderly age 65 and older that

are in need of short-term rehabilitation our pilot our plot of land is not large but with the

area that we have we love walking our patients outside of the facility and allowing them to sit

in our therapy garden to get fresh air we have noticed recently an increasing homelessness

which come which has caused increased risk to our patients we have had to replace thousands of

dollars worth of damages from the transient population without any recompense to those individuals

each that comes through is clearly

inhibited or under some sort of substance and are seeking further drugs and alcohol

us and our next door neighbors have had to hire security guards just to protect our patients

a windows and staff vehicles from damages while we are excited to see this area grow

it needs to grow with the correct businesses thinking about and caring for those patients that

cannot defend themselves we are extremely worried at the thought of the gas station with alcohol

beverages being offered to cheaply to to cheaply catered in such close proximity to our facility

and to our patients I worried that the already hefty toll this transient population is causing

will increase as there will be an alcohol hub right across the street I also worry of the

increase of cars in the narrow road as our patients are walking around for their therapy this

will put an already at risk population further at risk we see that the Costco gas is used and

utilized very well but increasing more st a more stalls will also increase emissions next to

groups of individuals that are on continuous oxygen and thus will discourage them from going

outside these will lead to our patients as well as those residents next door and the facility

pay behind us thank you for your comment your time is now uh okay our next speaker is Len Perry

hi good evening I'm Ann Aynne is Lynn Perry I live in Wood Lake I've been researching this

project since January 23 when I first heard about it and so I've looked at three different climate

action plans the one in 2012 what I like a lot because it declares it's a it's a emergent climate

emergency declaration in 2012 with a goal of making Sacramento the most livable city in America

it stated that if Sacramento were to continue with business as usual practices the city's

community wide greenhouse gas emissions would increase by more than one and a half times by 2050

then I looked at the the mayor's commission and released in 2020 a user friendly 33 pages loved

that one and then I looked at the one released and adopted by the city last year on February 27th

2024 a whopping 591 pages and not none of these documents have specifically addressed building gas

stations and nor do they have any ordinance regulations or laws that prohibit building gas stations

or burning fossil fuel or anything so they're they're nice ideas they're wonderful but they have

no teeth there's nothing that will stop building the gas station from the climate action plans but

they do share three goals reducing greenhouse gases gases vehicle miles travel vehicle miles

traveled and toxic air air contaminants they want they recommend increasing active and public

transportation and electric vehicles and to increase the tree canopy access to green space

and healthy affordable food in all neighbors host so so so those are three goals of

creating healthy communities my my two objection my objection to that is that is ridiculous to

build a gas station in a climate emergency but I also objected to environmental impact reports

the the traffic one was done in October October 25th 2022 so and the health hazard one was done

in 2023 all before this massive development occurred right across the street and

Jose you missed out you said everything was commercial well it's not there's a residence in hotel

there's a 121 unit apartment building and then there's a senior living home those are all

residents I don't know why you would put residences in something that was done commercial or how

that happens but the environmental impact reports are inadequate the traffic study was

thank you for your comment your time is now up our next speaker is John

I'm John fear I'm resident of wood like and one's going to be affected by this project we live

near the light rail station in ardent opa so and if you were to walk from that area from

martin light rail to this gas convenience station on foot you would encounter sidewalks maybe

10% of the time we're walking in the street out there we have no sidewalks we don't trust the

environmental impact we're the traffic reports right now we have a five-story building going up

right on our corner there they said our parking wasn't going to be affected and traffic's going to

be fine parking just came out to us today and told us they're going to take away the parking in front

of our house because the streets are too narrow to park on good planning thank you for the five

story building everything was going good before so no one is really taking care of these projects

and as far as not being a food desert you show me where there's a grocery store it's on Del Paso

Boulevard it's called cost for less or whatever that's that's the only grocery outlet Costco you

need a membership to get in that it's a food outlet but Costco pharmacy obviously you do not need a

membership to get in so that is a pharmacy so they don't know what they're saying about this but

we don't need the traffic we don't need the parking issues it's a terrible impact on our neighborhood

where we're going through right now and I don't think it's fair that we just get a gas station

and I don't know any reason why we really need it thank you thank you for your comment our next

speakers ash

good evening everyone I oppose this plan to be really really good for the environment and for the

new generation and technology wise it's it's a good plan as far as we've seen it on the video

so I think it's a good thing to have it with the pharmacy everyone's targeting the pharmacy but

they don't realize it it's really good for everyone to go in there it's easier for them to get

the medicine they want so plus there's an arcade in there there's a lot of new fresh food is

going to be out there because a lot of grocery places they don't even sell fresh food it's all

frozen and all that so for them to have fresh food and all the fresh items the kids can have older

people can have and anybody can have it so it's I feel like it's a good thing it's a good start

it's a new vision so I feel like it's that's all I have to say I just don't have anything else but

thank you thank you for your comment our next speaker is TJ

hello everyone I'm doing business in Sacramento County last 25 year

always when we have those kind of project we have to come here and we get a lot of difficulties

and the gas station been building last 25 years everywhere every corner I see

now but everybody when they talk about liquor license oh gas station right with a click we are

third type of the citizen of this country because the license will be make our images different

than other citizens I've been through in this process in past and I'm building another gas station

in Sacramento also maybe I see you in future pretty soon but the idea is he's bringing here

it is very convenient because right after freeway by the exit no no disturbing neighbors

and the cost go has the lines and lines you have to wait to get a gas even if you go to the

pharmacy you have to hard to find a parking we call the the cost go is a bit

parking wise is a big issue and then out is very hard so we try to bring a convenience for the

commuter who's going they going rose well to downtown downtown to rose well every day

it's right there of a freeway and the technology is wise when we talk about gas station we are

thinking like small gas station only beer tobacco out few items selling a lot of gas station but

it's not of that concept we are trying to bring a good for our neighborhoods we have all barbic

also we are set up over there the fresh food also and the cooking food not a greasy food like all

fast food doing we are at some Indian tea in there and roasted chicken which one is hard to find

tendo re chicken also those are healthy item we are trying to bring it even EV system you guys

required so we are follow also that one so might request to you guys if you approve this

project will be a great for community and for everyone thank you thank you for your comment our

next speaker is Dell

you

good evening

in response to proposal p 22 037 to develop a gas station at the property on leisure lane

the Sacramento City Planning Commission needs to decline the application that would negatively change

the character of wood like neighborhood based on the following the proposal is for 12 gas

dispensing nozzles to backhoe sales and alcohol sales in a convenience store any additional gas

station to the area opposes Sacramento City General Plan 2024 we need to talk about what

you're referencing because I found different we don't need another gas station there are four

convenient gas stations in the immediate vicinity to wood like neighborhood including Costco

which regularly has 50 idling cars the American Long Association to determine 29 percent pollution

comes from automobiles and they have an action plan opposing new gas stations this is from

long dot org very easy to reference almost every gas station fuel storage tank leaks there's information

all over the place about that senior residents and fragile rehabilitating patients in the skilled

nursing facilities nearby are opposed to the new gas station due to increased air pollution

lost my place

and liquor sales they encourage healthy walking habitants for wellness which would be less comfortable

or curtailed by the gas station and the pollution for more idling cars and not just fumes until

the recent rain the air quality in Sacramento district two has been the worst in Sacramento

the polluted air quality in dangers wood like elementary school students and surrounding

children in care facilities presently the area has an over concentration of alcohol licenses

quote communities with a high concentration of alcohol outlets experiencing greater number of

alcohol related problems unquote that's from abc dot c a dot gov very easy reference and we have

enough access to convenient alcohol remember the art and wake in uh a chevron conversation from

just last month leisure lane was not engineered for the heavier traffic load of so many cars and the

weight of some ice and fuel trucks also the streets are not wide enough three protected trees are

scheduled to be removed every other district is improved pest pedestrian and bicycle safety

acceptance to you we'll be interested in in seeing this area developed in complimentary way that

isn't keeping with a healthier slow paced home feel that a neighborhood generator or not down

thank you for your comment your time is now up thank you for your comment your time is now up

thank you for your comment our next speaker is Robert

yes

what's the setting that hi guys my name is Robert D. Denato I'm a local business owner

I'm a little bit confused why we're calling this a gas station where we've got you know

electric electric charges they should have this place I have a Tesla this morning I stopped

their railings on freeport boulevard um plug my Tesla and went in box groceries for my lunch today

and my you know food at work whatever um piece about a half hour um I think this might be more of a

model of what going forward is um gas stations they're not really gas stations anymore energy

distributors right I mean that's where you go get your energy for your gas car but if you have

an electric car isn't it great to be able to plug it in go do something for 20 minutes 15 minutes

and then get charged and then move on I mean um I think it's a society we need to start thinking

else has a box a little bit I mean if you want clean energy if you want lower emissions

electricity is the way to go I do a lot of work for PG&E and Spud they do a lot of hydropower

um so if you're able to charge your car with hydropower that that's zero emissions that's not

that's not a generator stuff whatever so I would just say um as a society we need to start

thinking a little more outside the box that's all I'm saying thank you thank you for your comment

our next speaker is Tony hello uh I approve this project and uh I'm gonna do one of them

selfish reasons I worked off tribute road for many many years and obviously tribute

leisure are very very close together there is no quick place to go get lunch from there if you

have a 30 minute lunch you do kind of work in that area there's no other place to go you know

you've got to bring your lunch you know I go so I was for the fresh food and then all the food

they're gonna have there and all the fresh ideas I think that's a great thing also too I've been

an outside sales rep for a vast majority of my time working in Roosevelt and living in the

pocket area 160 is the perfect place to bypass all the traffic that happens off of 80 getting to five

so I would take 160 down and take Richard's catch one five there I would have loved the place to

actually stop and get gas I would have plugged the place to actually stop and get some food to eat on

the way to from what to and from work it's a perfect spot and I've recently uh with my boss who

has an electronic vehicle and we charged up at a Walmart and had a walk in a parking lot for 35

minutes why it charged that I was didn't like that I would love to have a place where I could go in

and just go hit a golf ball and get something healthy to eat and maybe at the same time pick up

my medication so thank you for your time thank you for your comment and our last speaker is

perennie

hi everyone my name is perennie and then I've been a local real estate agent for the last eight

years um seen couple projects like this in different neighborhoods around Sacramento and usually

they are negatives and positives but um I've seen this help neighborhoods um especially the houses

around it you know appreciate and value and this helps us with comms as well trying to sell properties

or even getting new buyers into those type of properties so this I don't see it as a gas station

like the other um speakers as said this is a unique you know type a project which kind of is trying

to incorporate both as a hybrid um with the electric which we are moving towards and I feel like

everyone who does have electric car still has a gas running car in today's day and age because

we haven't still got on there so projects like this I think is needed as we slowly approach

towards full electric so this is a unique one that for my generation I think they would appreciate

something like this which I think will put the caliber a little bit higher for other gas stations to

improve and incorporate more modern type of things in the convenience stores be it fresh food

self-check out because right now time is money for everyone the quicker we are able to grab

what we need and if you're able to get it at one stop shop something like this and also if you're

able to you know have fun while waiting for your car to charge golfing like they have the

seating area on top you're slowly you're able to fit in a quick meeting or something while you're

waiting for your car to charge I think those are the the projects or I would say developments that

we are moving towards as a nation also the state of California you'll see in in other countries

I haven't seen this type of gas stations here yet again sorry for calling a gas station but projects

like this I think is the way forward so I do approve this project and I think it will also uplift

highway 160 since it you know that hasn't been much going on with that filter road thank you

thank you thank you for your comment chair I have no more speakers thank you

are there any commissioners who wish to speak on this item

commissioner Chase vice chair Chase

thank you I do have questions you speaking to my I'm not trying to hear you

is it on okay on okay there you go I was I we've heard comments about you know air quality and

other things have you had any input from you know idling air quality relative to automobiles

yes thank you vice chair so the Sacramento metropolitan air quality district is part of our

review process and so when we do route projects they do provide comments this project also did

an initial study which resulted in a mitigated negative declaration they were also part of that

review process but specifically within that MND there was evaluation of construction related

air emission impacts as well as operational air emission impacts both of which were found to be

less than the significance of threshold per the sequel analysis also I would note that all

gas stations are required to receive their own separate permitting through the air district or

sack air district part of that evaluation will include an additional health risk assessment

and depending on the results of their permitting requirements they may restrict the total throughput

of which gas wing can be dispensed into vehicles at any given time thank you very much thank you

chair thank you

commission or a tease thank you mr chair

so I have some questions and some observations and I don't quite I was hoping to hear

what my more seasoned colleagues think about this but what strikes me is I think the applicant is

really trying to accommodate and do many things with this has been characterized as a hybrid which

I struggle with how pragmatic that is or how practical I think the real revenue generator of

these models are the gas the alcohol sales and and I could be incorrect but and at times the

tobacco sales but it does sound like this applicant is seeking to try to accommodate and be many

things and I fear some of them may not be pragmatic that's why I have lots of questions like a

pharmacy that's wonderful but have you confirmed agreements with healthcare plans that will

allow you to be a pharmacy with prescription medications because there's so few the conditions

of these are just not open-ended business arrangements they're really restricted by health

plan just off the top secondly will I carry you know schedule two or serious narcotics which I think

raises given that location some risks of you know narcotics prescriptions being there and that's

just sort of a peripheral issue I think the fundamental issue that I struggle with is whether or

even though our codes and even though our zoning allow for this site to be used as a let's

call it 12 pumps is a gas station even if they're electrical vehicle charging stations it's a gas

station that sells alcohol tobacco and fresh food but I'm a little that's the other thing is

it a kitchen is it a restaurant up top it's a lot of things but really the fundamental question I

have it does seem that there's a lot of options for residents around there to get gas I doubt

that residents around there will shop there for their groceries it is primarily a commuter convenience

it seems for those that will know to go there to get gas and as one gentleman said pick up a meal

but you know is it it just doesn't seem like there's an absence or demand for a gas station in

that area and people who live there are accustomed to using one of the many other options so even though

our code and our zoning allows it and even though I think the applicant has sought to do a lot of

conditions you know I I'm still struggling whether or not that's needed if indeed and I don't want

to I'd love to hear what others think I am troubled however that the proposal to sell until midnight

alcohol I think is a little too a little too much for those who seek to buy alcohol you know six pack

a beer late at night you're going to do those purchases between you know before 8 p.m. you're

coming home you're going to pick up the notion of being able to purchase any kind of alcohol till

midnight to me just doesn't seem compelling that it could more more easily be accommodated and I

know the staff report says if there are any changes in the hourly that would have to go back

for staff review but those are some thoughts off the top of my head I don't know where this is

going I don't want to be the person proposing a solution but I am a bit struck with at night

but I also want to commend the applicant seeking to accommodate neighborhood concerns but really

the bottom line is the many makers are generally the you know alcohol and the gas and I think it's

a little bit of an overreach suggesting that a pharmacy will be there without confirming that

you actually have arrangements with plans that you know you have pharmacies closing for a reason

because there are fewer fewer fewer that are authorized by health care plans or Medicaid to even

be pharmacies and if indeed it what this proceeds and it is going to be a pharmacy and that's a

condition that we can verify before it's finalized you know I hope that there will be a restriction

on controls narcotics at that site because that could raise a risk it's somewhat secluded there

that site at this point and it would be a little bit alarming if there was an enhanced risk of

having narcotics on site just my thoughts thank you

any other comments questions from the dies commissioner Thompson

just a clarifying potential because I've heard a lot that this is not a gas station

and it's definitely loaded with a bunch of non-gas station pieces which I think is great and

I would second commissioner Ortiz statement about the effort that you've gone through in trying to

work with the neighborhood and create a space that's community focused but it is a large gas station

and I'm curious to know how essential is that to the businesses ability to be successful

now that you have all these alternate amenities and I think you had mentioned that the business

could be successful without the gas so is that a reality and is the gas component a key part

of this being a successful project I guess that's a question I guess that's a question

to the applicant I apologize

thank you so for the sustainability part right now it may not be because of the you cannot

run from the EV charging yet so we try to like one nozzle equal to one EV charger car so we try to

make it for the pollution concern or the greenhouse gas emissions so we are not the ICE

in junk car makers we are just providing a product which people need it more more apartments

coming nearby and then they need food they need gas they need EV charging so for sustainability

in future yes when no one will have gas we will have the rest of the thing available so they will

fail we will not this is a sustainable project for the future not now and whether it is the need

or not you said a big gas station in order to that's why the wall green the right aid other

apartments is a closing because they cannot be they I mean their expenses otherwise why would I

close a business so the selling gas or small portion of the income will be as you said the beer wine liquor

no liquor so one lady said liquor is not liquor and then it's like having a product like a tobacco

etc is the sale maybe maybe $1,000 or $2,000 but having a product that give a customer okay you know

I have everything here and then I will stop on this gas station that's the basically how to attract more

loyal customers especially travelers so like woodland community maybe 5% of the traffic on this

location is the woodland community people 95% of all the travelers communities are freeway highway

and so the concerns what a few concerns are good another allegation I it has it's in a false

information I have no any relationship with bonfire we are not the same family so it's tried to

maybe win an argument and try to bring it so this is not something to need to be good for the long

queue of the Costco gas is told that it's creating a gas this gas station is even more needed in order

to avoid that line I give it away the drive through pharmacy should be drive through and commercial

kitchen should be drive to I put it in the plan you can see I give it away because they said oh it

will be a long queue and then it will be idle gas and then greenhouse gases okay I will give it

so these are the things I try to the sausage I try to go many times to local community and

someone said that Costco you can it's not membership only pharmacy you cannot enter into Costco without

showing a car is co-card so that that's I don't know from where this information came

so it was told the hotel apartments lots of development coming up so they need all the

products which I'm trying to create here so as my friends one of the the gentleman said

you should not call it a gas station it's a equal EV charging station it's a it's a mixed hybrid

business model and it's a role model for all the other gas stations to copy it to follow this

trend otherwise you will go out of business I actually I couldn't agree more I think that the

concept of a hybrid is a great way to pull in EV charging as a necessity especially as more

more drivers are utilizing it and I really appreciate that you've added function is charging your

car takes time the part that I'm stuck on is that with a 12 pump gas station

how is that getting phased out especially if it's a key component to your business and what does

that phased out plan look like if we maintain a 12 pump gas station and Sacramento's goal overall

is to have those reduced to as much or as little as possible especially by 2040 2045

then how are you working with the city and bringing this new one in at this time to make sure

that that's a part of the plan so in mid of the application process all incident I got an email or

there is a new 2040 plan you got to have one or the E1 EV immediately without a second thought

within a day I accepted it I said yes that's a good idea second thing the gas if it will phase out

less customer of gas will come on the source so the rest of the locations positions will be converted

into either EV or hydrogen or whatever the green fuel will come up we have enough

iLand available to put even EV charging ports there or whatever the green house

whatever the new green gas or maybe hydrogen will come up so this will

and come so you're it's a demand-driven plan okay thank you

for the environmental report everything all the concerns about the excuse me I'm sorry

I just want you to answer her question because it's not an attempt for you to address all the other

comments yeah thank you um commissioner lamas thank you chair um and thanks to the

community members who came to voice their concerns then um or support um and for this project

I did have a question about um well and I actually I would like to say that um it isn't an

interesting proposal um trying to strike a balance between gas fueling and electric fueling

and what I understand with the building structure and all these added amenities is to accommodate

folks who are going to be charging their vehicles with the electric stations um I uh I do wonder what

type of um charge like how quick the charges are I know there's like a varying power capacity some

are super charging stations that you can charge in like 30 minutes and some take like eight hours

to charge um don't know if that's been determined yet um I'm seeing some head nods I

if you can speak to that component at least I'd be hopeful yeah that's a great question so the general

plan actually requires the the fast charger so I believe it's the level three chargers um which I

think takes upwards of 30 minutes wow okay that is very fast that's good um

um okay well that um that helps me get a better sense of how long folks may be there charging

their vehicles um and um if you need 30 minutes to grab a bite to eat or potentially pick up

pharmacy prescription or utilize some of the um recreational space that seems to be a plan

upstairs um my question kind of pertains to those amenities this approval um will be for the gas

station the pumps the tobacco and alcohol sales will they need to seek further approvals to put the

gas to the pharmacy in will there be I don't will there be further approvals needed to put the

electric the electric charger stations in um how will we know that those added amenities will

come to fruition if the project gets approved at this level so the pharmacy is allowed by right

whether there are additional permitting requirements which they probably are with the state then

you know that's separate from the land use decision um we cannot condition the amenities at least

I don't believe we can um correct me if I'm wrong I mean you can certainly try but I'm not sure if

we can um so yeah like like the applicant said it will be completely demand driven um and with your

question about what there is to do within those 30 minutes um if there's nothing to do in on the

side I would imagine that no one he would not have any loyal customer so it's um it's in his

best interest to have something there for for his um for his customers thank you Jose and

to follow up I think you asked about the the fast charger requirement so there is a condition with

the use permit that those are operational uh before they begin dispensing fuels and the expectation

is also that those will also be fully maintained and operational as well while they're operating

um

perfect that's great to hear I know we've had previous discussions about that and some challenges

around EV charging stations that have been auto commission um and folks trying to charge their

vehicles but not being able to get access to a working one so that's um good to hear that that's

in the requirements for the compliance um thank you for the responses that's that's helpful

and you're my time thank you uh commissioner Rezky thank you thank you all for

okay thank you um for the presentation and for the comments from the community I have a

couple of questions and one is that um there are some private protected trees being removed and those are

being mitigated some of the mitigation is happening on site and some is happening off site

for the ones happening on site are those required to be the same species or similar

um and is there space for that?

they're not required to they are not required to replace them um with a specific species they're

just required to replace them inch for inch okay so and all of the mitigation all of the

replacement is on site so none of the off site trees actually count towards that um

though that mitigation of the inch for inch okay and I noticed um in the packet that we received

there was a plan with uh drive-through going along behind the behind the building and then

that was updated to eliminate that drive-through and that drive-through seems to be sort of where a

lot of those private protected trees are and those trees are and mature trees are an amenity to a

neighborhood per shade and air quality and beauty so I'm wondering if with that drive-through

removed if the trees are able to remain or did the building increase in scope?

the building was shifted back towards the the property line so it's it replaced the the location

where it is now over the location where the drive-through was located.

okay thank you

any other questions from the vice commissioner Thompson?

sorry one more follow-up um with the discussion about the pharmacy which I think is

again a really thoughtful consideration especially after talking to all the neighbors and hearing

that's something that's needed um as an architect who's dabbled in healthcare design

pharmacies do have some special requirements that they have and there is um

so if that doesn't have the potential to go through what would be the alternate that you would offer?

thank you for your thank you for your question uh I didn't think of any alternate because I don't

see any any challenge it's not in the osher bird or any other complex approval processes

it it should be um uh should I have no any problem to approve it but I don't have any backup so

I've ready to listen and any input ideas so unfortunately I didn't have any for because it's

around 350 square feet uh I may add some maybe more office boards or some more positive use area

maybe more gift space or whatever like uh better because right now the as I told the lot is very

weird shape and it's very narrow building so we may shift the the cash register on the back and

then have a better design so we will think after that so what we need to do to make it better

sustainable thank you commissioner blood thank you to this out for the really great work on this um

so one of the parts of this project that I'm confused about is the the bike lanes and the changes

to the uh the sidewalk improvement so is that or the bike lane is going to go in regardless

or is that conditional on this project? so the the bicycle lanes are identified in the bicycle master plan

um absent any development unless the city was constructing bicycle lanes or you know there was

a capital improvement project to build those lanes the lanes would not the bicycle lanes would not

be constructed so there's nothing there now there's no sidewalks no um no bicycle lanes they're

building onto their they're building these improvements on their property they're dedicating

additional um right away space okay and the sidewalk improvements with that be

the the financial responsibility of the city or would that be something that the applicant would

the applicant is responsible responsible for all those improvements?

yeah just curious about that thanks

by sheer chase is that oh commissioner rheshky thank you

um i just want to give a couple of questions for the applicant so with the food sales the healthy

fresh food um when when you've had that in your other locations is that sustainable to to sell

like if that doesn't sell you know it expires it can't be as shelf stable as many things and

you know is is that has that been successful in any of your other locations to have a long term

healthy fresh food? thank you very much for your questions i have a couple of examples to give so

it can never fail healthy food idea with the taste good taste quality initially i may

face more expanses because no freezer like trying to copy maybe in an out idea of a fresh food

but i will say uh like 7 11 followed 100 years back and then like fresh

dairy items and eggs every day to be delivered in the mornings isn't unheard of another

convenience store but they are super successful once you create your brand and then it's uh

talk of the town it's a very healthy food and then uh fresh tasty initially we may struggle but

i i will not give it up uh i will focus more on that the healthy fresh food i know that it's

it will it will work okay and then another question is um is there did you look at an option or

is there an option to shift the building back to where you had it when you had the drive through to

where to preserve all of the private protected trees? so the problem is the the lot shape and uh we

need a circulation for the fire truck and uh unfortunately we were very tight and it is we have very

great architect so they they try to adjust everything in a way it should look beautiful

accessible life safety uh ADA and walk and convenience for under parking so we try to manage it if

if anyone has any idea of we can look at it so it's try to best you know the

in the building from the first plan is did the square footage of the building?

no no it's reduced even thank you thank you very much yeah thank you

you

miss your aunties

wonderful thank you for doing that for me um i actually want to probe a little bit more on

two of the points and if it's possible for the applicant perhaps if i could ask you about a

couple of issues may ask you a couple questions thank you so that uh would you come to the mic

because it's really hard to hear you up here so please i've got old ears so if you could speak

a little louder it'd be helpful um can i ask you and i think our staff reminded me and i want to

highlight this we don't we have land use authority we don't have regulatory uh pharmaceutical

licensing and um regulations and compliance issues so a proponent an applicant can say they're

going to do something and have every intention of doing it and ultimately not do it um and we

have no authority to say ah you didn't do that because we are limited in scope to what we are

authorized to do which is land use um and we and this site is indeed authorized for gas station

and a pharmacy my question to you sir is what steps have you taken to go through the regulatory

process not the land use process not the architect building the building but rather getting authorization

to have a pharmacy at that site i didn't take any because uh i know this is a lengthy process or maybe

a challenging process i will not take you are decision in my hand before going into that hiring

a pharmacist or start the i know the application process and i i a little bit i did my homework

is workable for me i can i can handle this so what is your homework say are the steps that you need

to go through so for the steps i need to have a permanent pharmacist on board and they need to work

with me and then i i looked at the numbers how much cost it will do to me and one uh store new store

maybe i will face losses so those kind of numbers i'm talking about the homework i'm talking about

regulatory and uh other stuff to this is the most difficult process i'm going through after that

is not difficult challenge yes you you said there is a land use you cannot uh maybe bound me

well i can give you voluntary uh like my commitment to do that because it's not compulsion i'm not

doing it just for the publisher community wanted i will do it no i like this idea myself so i think

it's a great idea i just don't know how realistic it is so as one new commissioner i i struggle with

i think it's a good idea i think it's you know compelling of you and i think you have the best

interest but ultimately if it doesn't happen we the commissioners are the ones that granted you

the authority to do something that didn't happen and we don't have any authority to so understand

from my perspective i know how complicated it is with health plans agreeing on well-established

pharmacies i mean they're all falling apart for health plans kind of control that so i think you

do have good intentions but i also understand that it's we as a governing boarder as an authority

to grant your land use if it doesn't happen we're the ones that unfortunately took a risk in the

community will you know the other question i have for you would you consider stopping alcohol sales at

9 p.m. the the reason why i want till midnight because this is truly uh this

s are 160 represent truly like metro traffic people work late till net late maybe in downtown

other areas or maybe one one gentleman said he came from like free portable hour to go all

away to roseville and they they use it i personally use many times going to the ardent wave

mall area and coming from algrove so we always take this road uh so the the purpose is to give

them to make them to have a reason to stop here to make this business more viable it's not really

liquor or beer wine sale is not that much and profit is not that much it's not about the beer wine

sale it's about making this project viable and making the customer loyal even if like two dollar

thing uh like five dollar item they will have oh they have this and they will have a multiple more

stuff to buy so that's a no i just think most people even if they're commuting by nine o'clock

they will have decided i'm going to pick up yes and we'll hold on between nine and midnight i'm not

sure that commuters just my preference it for the you know the risk of sales up to midnight i

think are an issue for me personally i don't know about my colleagues so thank you for not

being i take it that's a no so um i hope you will think about that though whether or not you

would agree to alcohol sales stopping at nine p.m i know not right now i i don't know where the

conversation's going to go but that would be my ask um i think that's it mr chair thank you thank you

any other questions comments vice chair chase thank you chair um i'm i'm really conflicted on this one

i think everyone knows my stance on the last project that came through which i opposed uh which

the commission did approve though uh that was the the chevron on art and way this one is it's more

interesting in that it's the first one that i recall coming through complying with the 2040

general plan at in a one-to-one ratio um and you know somebody mentioned a potential is it a

model is an innovation possibly i mean this could be the first one that kind of kicks things off

um in terms of the ability to convert something we know that you're not going to convert

ev stations back to gas pumps in the future you know just not going to physically happen the

reverse though i think probably could happen could easily replace those 12 you know uh

nozzles in the center there with additional uh you know uh ev charging stations so again potential

it's so totally different than the uh the chevron that i know you know all of my neighbors were

opposed to as was i on uh uh art and way it was mentioned that this is a commuter route which i

totally agree it is uh people who are coming from the kind of midtown out are probably going to jump

on in uh business 50 business 80 anyway from downtown i think this is a likely route out of downtown

to head to the suburbs roseville city where it is and it's very convenient fast-moving you jump on it

i you know as an architect i've designed hundreds of retail centers with uh with gas stations in them

over though i won't mention how many years this is probably the most direct honor off access that

i have seen you immediately get off 160 the stations right there you come out of the driveway

you're immediately back on uh you know minimal impact on surface streets uh you know around

the area in terms of you know all of the things that a car would do so again you know it's a unique

situation that we're looking at here um pharmacy thing i you know i would defer i think that that is

up in the air what effect would that have on it if it doesn't happen i'm not sure um i

do go to uh you know i i guess up at Costco all the time since i live in the area um

commuters coming out of mid downtown at five eight five o'clock i'm not going to stop a Costco

because there'll be an online of 12 cars in front of them i go over after dinner uh it just

drive up to the pump it is very easy uh but commuters don't have that option so this would you know

could conceivably serve that that Costco uh issue um it and i think it was mentioned that does have a

a PCN from the police department indicating that they've they've taken a look at it um

it's it again it's challenging uh and as i say i'm conflicted but i see a lot of positives and

and what i to me is the first potential innovative model of this type uh coming before us uh and

you know i think we need to look at what could this tell us about you know future development uh i

think we're going to learn from this one and uh we need to be careful in our decision but i i see

a certain a lot of potential there so thank you chair thank you um if there aren't any more

questions i'd like to throw out my questions um so uh the questions are for planning staff it's

going to be kind of all over the matter as usual for me um so for the uh the difference between

the general plan for 20 uh 2035 versus 2040 um what would you say would be kind of if you were

to say how many spaces were viable for gas stations in the 2035 plan versus the 2040 plan like

what would you say are kind of like the main adjustments between the two plans as it affects you know

the viability of new gas stations yeah so actually um there was a city code of

amendment i believe it was in 2018 time frame it was the TOD ordinance and that actually was the first

carabout to limit um the size of gas stations and so we put a definition and therefore

what we consider large gas stations and we allowed large gas stations if you're within 500 feet

of a freeway um like this location or if you are along a six lane arterial roadway so that was

sort of the first um stab at limiting gas station size and so the 2035 general plan did not have

any restrictions related to gas stations so then when 2040 general plan came on that was when we

had the EV requirement at the one-to-one ratio so those are the two to my knowledge of the

gas station regulations that have occurred within the last almost 10 years thank you

second question uh just wanting to to respond to concerns about air quality um the concentration

of gas stations um i recognize that the air quality management district you know has their own

approval process uh for for each station but it seems to kind of impose more of like kind of

protocols for how yeah i think you called it what was the term that you called i wasn't familiar with

the term some sort of protocol that that's imposed on on the stations through put perhaps

yeah that that's what could you could you explain what that is for me yeah i'll do my best uh

so essentially the air district will look at sort of the toxic air contaminants um and do their own

individual analysis working with the applicant and if it exceeds any threshold of significance to them

then they will limit the amount of gasoline that can be dispensed um and so that's one way to

sort of curtail or control those um air contaminants as part of the dispensing of fuel so does the

district look at like an entire neighborhood because i think the wood like residents are saying

hey there's like all these gas stations within a four mile radius i mean how how did they go about

making that determination there are cumulative um analyses that are completed and so as part of

this initial study there's uh mitigation that sort of addresses the air districts effort to read

doce overall cumulative effects um and so one for example one of those is to do electrify

buildings so do 100% electric um and so it's goals like that that the air district has to reduce

cumulative effects um community-wide right um i think the other concern from the residents was

just traffic circulation and i think that um i'm assuming the concern has to do with the fact of

of i don't think it has to do with traffic coming in and out of the neighborhood and being able

to get to a place it's about just cars kind of sitting right waiting for gas and because i think

there's a Costco where you you have a lot of cars that are kind of sitting while they're waiting for

their gas uh i think there was a traffic study uh there were some studies that talked about kind of

what are the potential impacts of having that gas station there and you know what are we looking at

as far as uh an increase in potential cars in that area and and what what that impact would be

for for that immediate area yeah good question um so our department of public works did take a close

look at this and we did complete a what we call an operational analysis so it identified all

nearby uh queuing uh to the nearby intersections and so essentially what they do is they there's

like a model of the unplugging the numbers of what the expected trip uh distribution would be uh for

a gas station and when they completed this um traffic analysis they also included the drive-through

because that was part of the scope at the time um and so i think the total number of trips

anticipated with this um including the drive-through so it would technically be less was 2500 new trips

proposed with this uh most of those trips that that has been acknowledges this evening are going to be

pass through coming off um state route 160 um and there were also uh sub mitigation that was

imposed as part of this analysis so um as Jose mentioned the building had shifted back so we could

have more on-site circulation uh we were closely with the applicant to uh carefully locate the

fuel pumps and you know where the gas truck is going to come in and drop off the gas underneath

in the underground tanks um and also uh this project will uh contribute to a um contribution

for traffic uh signal improvements within the vicinity as well.

Could you also speak to just the technology that's applied within kind of the new gas stations

to in a time to kind of mitigate particular uh uh that particular rinse um what sort of safety

kind of measures are are kind of imposed i i don't know if you know the answer to this um but i'm

just kind of curious you know because my idea of like the old gas stations are you know that

there's not there's fumes and whatnot right but you know as as i've kind of

gone to different gas stations i'm not noticing the fumes as as much nowadays and so i

it's hoping maybe you could speak to that. Yeah certainly not an expert um i think it the

aerodistoric again is heavily involved in this control and so specifically the nozzles um i think

if anyone has traveled outside the state of california how the the nozzles of gasoline can vary

uh you put in your car we have the i think it's called vapor reduction nozzles in the state of

california so that really just helps with the um emissions that would come while you're dispensing fuel

but maybe the applicant would have a better sense of what some of these regulations are um than i

would um i'll hold off on that okay yeah i think i think i'm good i think that that's helpful um i

think the last a couple questions i had were related to to alcohol licensing um recalling the last

um the last staff report at that um station i think along arden way i remember that would like

community had mentioned that you know five to ten years ago the owner had said they would only do

a a 20 license right and not yes yes yes um and would not come back for a 21 license and

um i'm wondering if there's a way to condition any kind of approval where

the owner would not be permitted to come back for a 21 license in perpetuity

is that possible i don't know that sounds tough to be honest um because even if you did add a

condition conditions can be modified and the applicant has the ability to apply for a modification

to a condition to essentially maybe remove that and apply for type 21 um but i think as part of

emotional discussion through this commission i think you could say what your intent is is to

to not allow liquor sales that this establishment and and of course that would go through a public

hearing process like the arden um chevron did and publicly notified and potentially appealed up

the this commission okay thinking Leslie might want to comment on that i agree with Garrett

i agree with Garrett um thank you i agree with Garrett i don't think that you could

bind it in perpetuity but we could certainly record in the staff report the intention

you know the commitment of the applicant to not apply for something else in the future

so that we least had a record of it going forward but i don't think you could impose it as a condition

thank you um i think those are all the questions i have um i did want to say i i appreciate

everybody's comments and feedback and again um you know i i appreciate the residents of wood like

i think they have a very beautiful community and i know that when they initially bought their

their homes you know they had an understanding of this is what it was going to be and

things are changing and and so i think to the degree that you're able to preserve um preserve that

space and the neighborhood and the character feel i i hear what you guys are trying to do i think

that the people on the dius are are also sensitive to that as well um so that said i think i'm

going to give the florida commissioner chase i think did you have a vice chair go vice chair

rushy sorry um and i sort of a comment as well i just i really resonated with what commissioner chase

said about this being sort of this um you know having all the the matching number of um

electric chargers and sort of being like geared towards a future with with less gasoline cars

um and i think if this was at any other location in this neighborhood i would probably

strongly oppose it but it's it's very close to the highway and um i noticed some of the some

of the neighbors um suggested maybe you know the spot could be for a dog park or something else and

i don't know how feasible the spot would be for for another another um opportunity because it's a

small spot and i don't think that a park you know it's right in the curve of the on-ramp um so i

don't know is it can i ask a question of the of the cometors of the neighbors if there's someone from

the neighborhood who could say share like if if there if you think there's another feasible use

for the site it just seems like if you're going to have a gas station this would be the spot for it

is there are there other things that that you thought would would fit there

i uh wrecking i'm pat sarah and i recognize that it is an odd shaped piece of property

but uh the idea eventually is to make this a boulevard and so having a gas station on a boulevard

i don't think fits i would much rather have something that uh like a dog park i mean i know that

because it's an odd shape dog parts fit in odd shapes um i would really like it to be compatible

with the neighborhood in the future yeah you know i i worry about it being a park just because of the

air quality being right next to a freeway but um and then i also wonder i you know it seems i

know it's really difficult with the with the fire truck and got i was trying to turn radius but like

is there a way to put the building near the front to hide the cars that are that are getting gas

and so the neighborhood has the building uh towards that i'm within 500 feet of where that pollution

is going to be so um i would much rather have it as even a health facility you know

you made lots of other options okay thank you so much that's very helpful

commission her nand is thank you chair um i just want to thank staff for the presentation as well

as the applicant for his presentation communication committee members thank you so much for coming out

and staying late with us for this discussion and also my fellow commissioners for their insightful

questions i do agree with the comments that were made regarding um the applicants um uh ability

and willingness to work with the community to listen to them and the concessions that were made

as outlined in the staff report um i think that should absolutely be a model for any project that

comes with us they've done a really great job in speaking with the community i think based on

the commissioner questions and staff responses it's my understanding that a number of the major

concerns that the community has raised today such as air quality and traffic has been addressed

um and discussed by by staff i do think that this project is very interesting because it's as

was mentioned the first time that we're seeing a new gas station um and evu ratio and that policy

that we just adopted come to light um and this really interesting way um so it's the first time

we're seeing this multi-functional fuelings slash charging um operation um i i will also note

that in california as well as across the states we are seeing a lot more charging stations

become a destination and it's due to the time that it takes to charge electric vehicles

a number of these companies are now providing retail integration different amenities other

services and technologies um and and it's something that uh i know that a number of of companies

and communities are partnering to expand so i appreciate the um the the ambition here uh

being provided as well as um the risk and the visibility and the analysis behind it um i think

it's the i think the location is ideal for something like this um so based on that um i would like

to make a motion to approve staff recommendation thank you thank you do i have a second

commission alarmist would like to second that motion thank you

would would um before we vote um would would you be amenable for me to memorialize um in that motion

some sort of mention of the intention on the alcohol license being type 20 and that there would be

i guess i don't know how how to rephrase rephrase this in such a way that we're we're not going to

be going for 21 um can i get any help no help there huh um i think they would have to come back but i

think we're just wanting to add that into the staff report right that just as part of a i think you

could um what would you think about adding it as part of the one of the findings that um

a finding of um maybe adding to the finding of fact can related to

general welfare because it's a type 20 and not a type 21 license

that's a good solution and that way it's front and center in the findings it's clear that the

commission consider this as part of their decision making thank you thank you

with that we have a second um clerk uh i wish to call on the vote thank you chair

i'm sorry commission alarmist did we miss you oh do we have to make a amendment to the motion

to do that or you offered a friendly amendment that was a friendly amendment and if the maker

of the motion in the second one accepted that then thank you can i ask do we discuss this with

the applicant is it would be appropriate yeah i think it would be appropriate if if we could throw

that out there for the applicant thank you so the the the question for you before this body as we

are taking a vote is um we would add to the findings of this uh report that our decision

here would be a recommendation of approval um with the understanding that uh this is only for

type 20 license and that we would unlikely support a future type 21 license that i characterize

appropriately looking at i'm fully in agreement so i'm not any problem so as per the general

application process we put it initially 21 i am totally fine with that with zero resistance i

immediately told them yes i'm okay with that because i have multiple more things

especially i'm talking about health corners so yes why not so whatever you want to do i'm okay with that

much appreciate it so it sounds like he had already um conceded that in negotiations with staff

and the community and so our decision here with that as a finding is appropriate and consistent

with discussions thank you thank you well what did thank you

so uh would then we go back to the person who made the initial motion and

sure i will accept that friendly amendment thank you

i will second accept that all right thank you

all right we'll clerk please call on the roll for the vote thank you chair commissioners please

unmute commissioner Lee i commissioner Lamas i commissioner Naibo

commissioner Kaden is absent commissioner Hernandez hi commissioner Musis Reed is absent

commissioner Ortiz i commissioner Blunt i vice chair chaise i commissioner Rishki

i commissioner Thompson i and chariang i thank you the motion passes

all right i'd like to take a 10 minute break um so could we go ahead and do that and

reconvene in 10 minutes

seven twenty seven seven seven thank you

thank you very much staff can i please get 30 seconds on the timer

chair

chair staff is ready when you are

we'll now proceed with item three which is the park bridge east rezone um like to ask

commission first if there any disclosures or recusals oh commissioner Naibo

i i had a conversation with the applicant thank you commissioner Lee yeah i received

you know and you had a phone call with the applicant assistant with the staff report thank you

commissioner Rishki oh commissioner chase like chair chase

okay i think that's everyone right anyone else okay commissioner Lamas i also received an email

from the applicant assistant great thank you leave there's a stop presentation thank you

hello again commissioners chair young my name is Josequit Nia associate planner with the

Department of Community Development the item before us p 24 o2 four park bridge east rezone

a request is subdivided a 4.87 acre site into 41 lots for residential development

and incorporated into the park bridge planned unit development or pud in sanftanatomas

the project site is undeveloped and curly split zoned office business low rise or ob an agriculture

open space or aos it is a 2040 planned general plan designation of residential mixed use

the site is currently located in the sutter west pud the area surrounding the site is comprised

of the existing park bridge residential subdivision to the south and west interstate

incorporated interstate 80 and unincorporated sacrament of county to the north and vacant line to the east

there's a future light rail station serving the green line extension plant south west of the project

site at sanjuan road and truxel road the project requires approval of the following entitlements a

rezone of 4.87 acres from ob pud and aos pud to the single unit or duplex dwelling r1 a pud zone

amendments to the park bridge pud schematic plan to incorporate the site as a new residential

village village five and an amendment to the development guidelines of the pud to update the

residential development standards to allow for a new housing product a tentative subdivision map

to subdivide the 4.8 acre signings of 41 residential lots and five common lots for landscaping

in private streets with tentative subdivision map design deviations for non standard residential

street sections and site plan and design review for review of the map layout circulation and

proposed village five development standards there are no house plans proposed with this request

because of the rezone city code requires that all entitlements be approved by the city council

the applicant requests to rezone the site to the r1 a zone to allow for the development of the

proposed subdivision as the ob zone does not allow for single unit residential development

the proposed r1 a pud zoning is consistent with the rmute designation in the 2040 general plan

which encourages vibrant walkable areas with a high intensity mix of residential commercial

office and public uses where daily errands can be accomplished on foot by bicycle or by transit

the project site is located within the suitor west pud for the city's official zoning map

the applicant requests that the property be moved from the suitor west pud and incorporated

into the park bridge pud as village five in order to create continuity with the existing park

bridge community in addition to the schematic plan amendment the applicant proposes to

incorporate development standards for residential development in village five the amendments

include minimum lot size depth width as well as setback requirements maximum building coverage

and maximum building height these development standards are similar to the other villages in the park

bridge pud the applicant requests approval of a tentative subdivision map to subdivide the property

into 41 residential parcels in five common lots for private streets a shared use path and landscaping

design deviations for non-standard street sections

are required for this project the first modifabes let's go back oh man sorry about that

all right

lost in my place there all right for the first modification is for the proposed 24-foot wide

private streets identified as street section b on the tentative map

this modified street set street section is intended to be more similar to an alley design

the second modification is for the proposed parkway channel way street section d the proposed

street section includes a wider sidewalk at eight feet wide and a wider plan planter at seven

and a half a seven and a half feet wide this non-standard section conforms to the recently

constructed parkway channel to the south public works as review the proposed deviation request

and do not object to the changes as the city's goals for street circulation are not affected

lastly access to the site will be provided through new connections to the existing haven park

circle and terribute street to the west and parktown street to the east the project is served by

three internal private streets shown in red the continuation of a class one shared use path is

proposed adjacent to interstate eighty to the north shown in blue at the top the continuation

of the sound wall adjacent to i80 will also be provided park channel ways designed for future

extension towards the east to improve overall connectivity when the lands to the east are

proposed for development notification of the project and the hearing were provided to all neighborhood

associations residents and property owners within 500 feet of the site staff did receive one

common in opposition related to increased traffic and one e-comment asking about maintenance

obligations traffic counts were conducted for the project and found the roadways to have adequate

capacity and the project will be required to form an h away for maintenance costs associated

with any private facilities staff recommends that the planning and design commission pass emotion

recommending the city council approve these entitlements as the proposal complies with the goals

and policies of the 20 general 2040 general plan and in that this development makes use of a vacant

parcel to provide much needed housing creates additional four-sale housing opportunities and

creates an interconnected neighborhood with pedestrian bicycle amenities thank you this concludes

my presentation staff and the applicant are here should you have any questions thank you

did you see the applicant wanted to speak okay good just here thank you

Clark are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item thank you chair i have no

speaker slips on this item thank you are there any commissioners who wish to speak on this item

commissioners who wish to speak on this item thank you chair

commissioners who wish to speak on this item thank you chair

I drove by this site today and walked it you can actually get through there to me it's a no-brainer

that should not be office that little carve out in that residential area so this makes all the sense in the world

given that I will move that we recommend approval to the city council

we have a motion thank you commission alanas thank you chair um I had some questions for staff

so I used to live in the neighborhood south of this newer neighborhood right there in the bridge

for area I went to Natomas high school saw the traffic daily can you speak to how this connection

may alleviate some of the congestion for this this newer these these villages right the village

one two three four potentially five by proposing to connect it which I believe it is right being

proposed to connect to northgate that's correct the way that the that the roads in this area um

park bridge and you know this new subdivision they are laid out to facilitate that connection

to northgate whether park channel way itself connects to northgate that's you know that's none of

those plans are concrete yet so it may loop around and connect to phone ranch if that is extended

over to northgate okay see we're saying in phone ranch okay yeah okay thank you for that and I

agree that that can help with some of that that traffic congestion on on sandhorn and phone ranch

the lot sizes the minimum ones are 2,400 a little bit smaller was wondering if you can maybe speak to

whether or not those would include driveways I don't think there's on street parking

from what I saw but just if you can speak to a little bit um to how folks um maybe utilizing vehicles

in this specific village um development and um what kind of I know there's no plans for homes

right no home design plans right now but do you have a sense of what the square footage of these

homes may be maybe for 2,400 square foot lots I do not have a specifics on the size of the

homes perhaps the applicant can speak to that um as for the as for the access um there is a on page 52

of the staff report page 52 of the PDF there are um what you want to call hypothetical you know

footprints um and they all include uh two car garage carriages and driveways okay perfect thank you

and so no on street parking but they would be accommodated with the I don't think there would be

there would not be enough space for us to be parking okay okay

um

so and I know there were some concerns about um it's the main set for port about a wall

being built potentially um for the vacant adjacent land to the east which is currently

zone commercial um but it seems like that wall um with this proposal would know would not be built

is part of that um potential consideration for that vacant lot being used as residential in the

future I mean um for them to speak to some of the thought process behind um not including that

as part of the requirement so uh Jason to interstate 80 that we will there will be there will be a

sound wall there now um between this development and the lands to the east there is a 200 I believe

is 200 feet or 100 feet wide um power line easement so we can't build there so that would all be

you know open space um to further east as development comes in if there is a commercial adjacent

to residential the commercial development would have to construct um a solid wall between the

development okay perfect so so if there would be future development that was that will be when

the issue of the wall will be addressed correct separating yeah creating a separation between

the you know two residential neighborhoods but not be a good idea thank you for um that additional

information um and I will second the motion commissioner vice um thank you thank you

thank you we have a second commissioner Thompson quick question um and thank you for the

reference to the plans with the buildings shown just this uh completely agree with commissioner

Chase this is awesome yay housing uh and definitely denser um and taking advantage of space that

isn't used so win win all around my only question is on the narrowing of the streets and uh

within a dense community like this is there a plan for parking because I see we have driveway

and uh garage parking is there a plan for a short term somebody has a party which you know

happens uh we did just hear from a bunch of neighbors talking about street parking not being

available is there an alternator an option that would be in there I would just add that the the

private streets that are internal will not allow on street parking but the streets to the side so

the new park channel and the terry view those are public streets and those can accommodate on street

parking thank you commissioner nibo or are you done with your questions okay commissioner nibo

just super quick can you discuss the bike pathway to the west and the plans for that

so there's currently an existing bike path uh that runs along the the sound wall on the north

end of the property and so that will continue along there and essentially dead end to the edge

of this property um but plans would be to potentially pick that back up when lands to the east um

further develop does that pick up uh but that but that bike path does that continue on to believe it

but I'm sorry my my mic's a little loud uh park channel way yes it runs into park channel way

so it would continue it would finish it would be the final link in that bike path I think when we have

development proposed to the east we would look for opportunities to further extend that to then

something that's but right now it can go south where it wasn't able to go south before

um so so the I'm sorry I'm not explaining this very well but the Haven Park Circle bike path

is going to continue east to where there's the the knuckle for the turning radius on the

fire truck and then it will continue south it will not continue south through the power line

easement if that's what you're referring to oh it will not no the it there's no uh trail

feature the Nino's Parkway actually stops before it gets to park bridge okay but there will be

a sidewalk there that they could go down correct yes okay yeah so so I took a look at this project

also like um late uh commissioner commissioner chase and um I took a look at then adjacent because

the the lot size I took a look at that and I'm like well what what size are those lots adjacent to it

just to the east or to the west are other lots approximately the same width and the same size

and they have the non-standard um street section uh the same non-standard street section

and when you go down there and look at it this the the the driveways do have cars parked

in front of the houses so even though the plans aren't in the staff report there is the 18-foot

front yard setback that would allow for parking of the cars and and frankly with the um because the

front yards of these are all part of um they're all they're all they're maintained through the H.O.A

the front yards will be all the private streets the front yards will be maintained by the

individual property owners by the individual property owners okay so the the neighbors the

the the the non-standard streets to the west lived very well I was surprised by hug

I mean I guess I was surprised and just then went there and like wow these things look really great

very livable so I would have made the motion if it wasn't already beaten so thank you

Commissioner Ortiz just a quick question and maybe it goes to I thought I'd read and had not seen

in H.O.A but this this does indeed have an H.O.A for this beauty correct yes whenever you have

private facilities like the private streets the question well that was going to be my question

who who maintains the private streets so I presumed it was an H.O.A but I didn't see it in the

staff report thank you for clarifying that vice chair chase thank you um I wanted to

wait thank you um it responded to a commission on ibo's comments um some of you may know I used to

live in a project called metro square in midtown and it had approximately 2,000 square foot

lots our house was 1,530 square feet so two-story house with a you know with a small yard in there

it worked very well and the driveways were long enough to actually park off street because

there were two internal streets that were just you know 12 feet wide so there's no parking this

so it it was workable and I this reminded me of the same same situation when I saw

all right any more comments from the dius right um we have a motion and a second will the clerk

please call roll for a vote thank you chair commissioners please unmute commissioner Lee

i

commissioner Lamas i

commissioner nipo

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commissioner caden it's absent

commissioner Hernandez

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commissioner mustis read absent commissioner Ortiz

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commissioner blant

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vice chair chase

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commissioner risky

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commissioner Thompson

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and chair young

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thank you the motion passes

thank you i just want to commend planning staff today for all their great hard work and uh

they they did an excellent job today so thank you planning staff

uh the next item is commissioner comments ideas and questions are there any commissioners

wish to speak on this item

okay uh last item is public comments matters not on the agenda clerk are there any members of

the public who wish to speak on public comments thank you chair i have no speaker slips on this item

all right this concludes today's agenda thank you everyone for your participation the meeting is now adjourned

thank you

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