Sacramento Planning & Design Commission Meeting - May 22, 2025
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Welcome to the May 22, 2025 Planning and Design Commission meeting.
The meeting is now called to order.
Will the clerk please call the roll to establish a quorum?
Thank you, Chair.
Commissioners, please unmute.
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Commissioner Lamas?
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Commissioner Naibo?
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Commissioner Caden?
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Commissioner Hernandez?
Is absent.
Commissioner Mosses-Reed?
Here.
Commissioner Ortiz?
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Commissioner Blunt?
Here.
Vice Chair Chase?
Here.
Commissioner Risky?
Here.
Commissioner Thompson?
Is absent.
And Chair Young?
Here.
Thank you.
We have a quorum.
Thank you.
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After the first speaker, we will no longer accept speaker slips.
We will now proceed with today's agenda.
Please rise for the opening acknowledgments in honor of Sacramento's indigenous people
and tribal lands.
To the original people of this land, the Nisanan people, the Southern Maidu, Valley and Plains
Miwok, Patwin-Wintoon peoples, and the people of the Wilton Rancheria, Sacramento's only
federally recognized tribe, may we acknowledge and honor the native people who came before
us and still walk beside us today on these ancestral lands by choosing to gather together
today in the active practice of acknowledgement and appreciation for Sacramento's indigenous
people's history, contributions, and lives.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for
which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
All right.
So we will not have a director's report today.
First order of business today is the approval of the consent calendar.
Clerk, are there any members of the public who wish to speak on the consent calendar?
Thank you, Chair.
I have no speaker slips on this item.
Are there any commissioners who wish to speak on this item?
Nope.
Oh, sorry.
There is someone.
Oh, I didn't see.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
I was going to move approval, but is it too soon?
Oh, okay.
Is there a motion or anyone would like to make a motion for the consent calendar?
I'll second Bob's.
Okay.
We have a motion and a second.
Will the clerk please call a roll for the vote?
Thank you, Chair.
Commissioners, please unmute.
Commissioner Lee?
Aye.
Commissioner Lamas?
Aye.
Commissioner Naibo?
Aye.
Commissioner Caden?
Aye.
Commissioner Hernandez?
Aye.
Commissioner Masters-Reed?
Aye.
Commissioner Ortiz?
Aye.
Commissioner Blunt?
Aye.
Vice Chair Chase?
Aye.
Commissioner Risky?
Aye.
Commissioner Thompson?
It's absent.
And Chair Young?
Aye.
Thank you.
The motion passes.
All right.
Before we proceed with the public hearings, I understand there is a request for continuance
on item five, Crocker Village Residential Development.
Would the applicant like to come up to the dais and make their request?
Good evening, Chair.
Members of the Planning Commission.
My name is Daniel Friedman with the Law Offices of Jeffrey Mangels Butler Mitchell.
I appreciate you calling this up early.
I represent the applicant.
First, I just want to acknowledge all the support here for the project application and
thank everyone for coming out.
It's very much appreciated.
The applicant and the developer is very grateful for those who showed.
We submitted a request for continuance on the basis that we believe the staff report-
Excuse me.
I'm so sorry to interrupt you.
We need to do refusals before you begin.
I'm going to limit my comments to continuance.
But if you would like to do refusals-
We would, just to be clear.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So you want to go into refusals?
Okay.
Please.
So before we decide on the request, are there any refusals or disclosures from the dais?
Okay.
Commissioner Naibo?
I got a phone call from the developer, a bunch of emails from the neighbors, a couple
of phone calls regarding the same.
Thank you.
Commissioner Macias-Reed?
I've also received many emails and correspondence from the public, including emails from the applicant
and a phone conversation with the applicant.
I would also like to address the inflammatory and accusatory emails I've received.
And I want to state for the record that back on March 13th, March 13th, not May 13th, March
13th, I sent an email to the city staff letting them know that I would be recusing myself on
this item.
I have also not spoken to any commissioners, neighbors, or others about this matter.
Chair Young and members of the public, I will be recusing myself from this item out of an abundance
of caution due to my proximity to the project.
And then Chair Young, I also wanted to state that item number six, if I may, also need to recuse
myself on that item because I have done work for the applicant in the last 12 months, although
not on that specific project.
I wanted to be clear on that.
But out of an abundance of caution, I will be recusing myself on that item as well.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Commissioner Lee?
Yes, I received emails from the applicant and members of the public.
Commissioner Hernandez?
Thank you.
I received several emails from members of the public as well as the applicant consistent with
staff report.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Commissioner Lamas?
I also received emails from both the members of the public and the applicant, all consistent
with the staff report.
Thank you.
Commissioner Blunt?
I also received emails from the public.
Are you?
I was trying to, yeah.
I'll get you back in.
Okay.
Yeah.
Commissioner Reschke?
I also received emails from the applicant and the public.
Commissioner Ortiz?
I received, I received the applicant and the public as well as I met with via Zoom with
the applicant as well as and the former.
It's not on.
Commissioner Chase?
I received numerous emails that I believe were addressed to all the other commissioners as
well as had a telephone conversation with a representative from the applicant's team today.
Thank you.
And I've received numerous emails as well and met with the applicant and an opponent as well.
All right.
Oh, Commissioner Caden.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Also received emails from the public and the applicant.
Thank you.
All right.
Please proceed.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
Thank you, Madam City Attorney.
So the request for continuance was primarily on the basis that we believe there's a fundamental
legal issue in the staff report.
Also factual issues in the staff report, which we believe we can be, we can address and correct
with the city attorney and with staff.
We submitted a letter, I believe it was yesterday evening, addressing some of those concerns.
I have some other concerns I was going to raise today.
We requested a continuance primarily in order to work that out.
So that's the basis of the request.
And we, again, I want to acknowledge those in red who are here to support in the red ribbons
to support the project.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you.
Thank you so much, Chair.
Thank you.
We have a request from the applicant to continue this item.
I think before the dais can make that decision, I think maybe if we could get an opinion from
legal counsel, because I think they've had a chance to review the letter.
And provide their input on this.
Yes.
We just reviewed, received the letter this morning.
We reviewed it.
It doesn't raise any new legal issues based on our initial review.
I don't know what other issues the applicant intends to raise.
But the letter that we have doesn't raise new issues that we haven't already considered.
Okay.
Thank you.
I guess at this time, does the dais have any questions before I request a motion?
From someone to continue?
Commissioner Lamas.
Thanks.
I am curious about protocol.
What is the standard protocol for us to consider the request?
Go ahead and take it.
The standard for granting a continuance is that the applicant has presented good cause
and that it won't create an unreasonable inconvenience for the public.
Would anyone like to make a motion to continue the item?
Or is there more questions?
I keep looking.
Sorry.
I need to look at the screen.
Commissioner Oreske.
Do we know when it would be continued to?
I know there's a lot of summer recess and summer, you know, people being out.
When would it be heard, basically?
Yeah.
The next scheduled planning commission meeting date is June 26th.
I see a head nodding by the applicant.
I guess a question based on that would be, would June 26th provide enough time to accomplish
the request.
I see a head nodding by the applicant.
Thank you.
Also legal counsel?
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you, Chair.
Commissioner Lamas.
I guess part of the consideration that I'm thinking about as a second part of that is
kind of an undue burden on the community.
It seems like this is probably the most filled room we've had since I've been on the commission.
And we see a lot of folks that are here to speak on behalf on this item because of the
red ribbons.
So I'm a little hesitant to potentially delay this item.
I know there was a reference to new legal concerns that were going to be expressed beyond
some of the legal concerns that were presented in a letter and the city had a chance to review
and respond to.
I am wondering, is there a benefit to hear those in this public space?
Or would those normally be heard with the city staff and the applicant directly, like
prior, before coming to the full commission for consideration?
You're asking if we should hear the public comment.
We should either continue the hearing or not.
I wouldn't recommend hearing the public comment and then continuing the public hearing.
In terms of raising the legal issues that the applicant wants to raise, it probably makes sense
to raise those.
We can discuss them before we discuss them as a full body.
Okay.
Thank you.
No other thoughts?
Any motions?
All right.
Can I make a motion?
Just for the sake of moving forward to continue?
I'll make a motion to continue the item.
Vice Chair Chase?
We have a motion and a second.
Commissioner, please unmute.
Commissioner Lee?
Aye.
Commissioner Lamas?
Aye.
Commissioner Naibo?
No.
Commissioner Caden?
No.
Commissioner Hernandez?
Aye.
Commissioner Mosses-Reade?
Is absent.
Commissioner Ortiz?
No.
Commissioner Blunt?
Aye.
Vice Chair Chase?
Aye.
Commissioner Rischke?
No.
Commissioner Thompson is absent.
And Chair Young?
Aye.
Thank you.
The motion did not pass.
Okay.
All right.
We'll continue the item.
No.
The item is not continued.
It will be heard in order.
Oh, it will be heard in order.
That's right.
Okay.
Thank you.
All right.
Moving on.
I think in light of our agenda, I'd like to move item seven, review of the capital improvement
program for consistency with the 2040 general plan after item four on the agenda.
Okay.
Moving on to item two, floor and storage facility, P24-036.
Point of information.
Yes.
Do you need a motion to change that?
Or can Ken move?
So I don't need a motion to move that item.
Kendra, I don't know if she's still on the premises, but she could join us.
Huh?
Yeah.
I think she's just in the back.
I think she's just in the back.
We'll get her.
Yeah.
I think someone's going to get Kendra.
Thank you.
Welcome back.
All right.
Item two is the floor and storage facility, P24-036.
Good evening, chair and members of the planning and design commission.
I am Danny Abbas with the planning division.
And this item is a request to construct and operate an approximately 700 unit mini storage
locker building within the general commercial and executive airport overlay zone at the
rear of the Bel Air shopping center at the northeast corner of Florin Road and Freeport
Boulevard.
The request requires commission approval of a conditional use permit, tree permit, and site
plan and design review entitlements.
Due to the airport overlay zoning, people intensive land uses are prohibited at the site, including
multi-unit dwellings, duplexes, hotels, schools, and shopping centers.
Staff supports the proposal at this location since it is compatible with the airport overlay
zoning, since it will provide storage options for surrounding residential office and commercial
development, and since the site design and operational conditions of approval are expected
to ensure compatibility with the surroundings.
This afternoon, supplemental information, which included Department of Utilities conditions
of approval intended to be incorporated into the site plan and design review entitlements,
were uploaded to the online staff report.
Planning staff and the applicants reviewed and accepted the conditions.
Staff recommends that the commission approve the project subject to the conditions found with an attachment three of the report with the addition of the utilities conditions.
That concludes the presentation.
Both staff and the applicant would be able to answer any questions should there be any.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I forgot to ask the dais.
Are there any disclosures or recusals for this item?
Commissioner Naibo.
I called the applicant's representative with some questions about the site plan.
Thank you.
Commissioner Ortiz.
I received an email from the applicant's representative, but did not have a conversation.
Thank you.
I have a question.
I have a question.
I have a question.
I have a question.
I have a question.
I have a question.
I have a question.
I have a question.
I received an email from the applicant's representative, but did not have a conversation.
Thank you.
All right.
Clerk, are there any speaker slips for this item?
Thank you, Chair.
I have no speaker slips on this item.
Thank you.
Do we have any questions or comments or motions?
Chair, I think I don't see any issues.
I don't see any issues with the report, and I don't see any issues at all with the project,
so I will make a motion.
Thank you.
I have a motion.
Commissioner Caden.
Second.
I have a second.
Clerk, will you please call the roll?
Thank you, Chair.
Commissioner Lee?
Yes.
Commissioner Lamas?
Aye.
Commissioner Naibo?
Aye.
Commissioner Naibo?
Aye.
Commissioner Caden?
Aye.
Commissioner Hernandez?
Aye.
Commissioner Moises-Reed?
Aye.
Commissioner Ortiz?
Aye.
Commissioner Blunt?
Aye.
Commissioner Blunt?
Aye.
Vice Chair Chase?
Aye.
Commissioner Rischke?
Aye.
Commissioner Rischke?
Aye.
Commissioner Thompson is absent.
And Chair Young?
Aye.
Thank you.
The motion passes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
The motion passes.
Thank you.
Item three.
On the discussion calendar, caliber collision P25-002.
Before we begin, are there any disclosures or recusals?
Nope.
Okay.
Thank you.
Good evening, Chair and Commissioners.
My name is Sierra Peterson, Associate Planner with the Community Development Department.
The item before you is P25-002 for caliber collision expansion located at 1801 21st Street on the western side of the property at the corner of 20th and R Streets.
This application is for a conditional use permit to establish an auto service and repair facility within a 6,000 square foot portion of an existing commercial warehouse.
Warehouse building within the general commercial zone and Central City Special Planning District.
The establishment of the auto service and repair use is for the expansion of an existing auto service and repair business located to the west across 20th Street at 1800 20th Street.
The business is proposed to operate Monday through Friday, 730 to 530.
All services and storage will be within an enclosed building and completely screened from public view.
Additional parking will be provided on site to the south of the building and screened from view with a chain link fence and additional vinyl slats.
The new use does not include any exterior building modifications except for additional fence screening and exterior lighting required with condition number 4.
This project was noted to all residents, property owners and neighborhood associations within 500 feet of the subject site.
The site was posted with a public hearing notice and staff has not received any public comments or e-comments.
Staff recommends that the Planning and Design Commission approve the entitlements subject to the findings and conditions contained in the staff report.
This concludes my presentation.
I am available for any questions you may have and the applicant is also in attendance tonight.
Thank you.
Good evening, Chairman and members of the Commission.
Brian Holloway, Holloway Land Company representing Caliber Collision tonight.
With me is Mr. Brett Flory of Cross Architects who is also representing Caliber and we can both answer any questions you may have.
He's probably best to answer any questions about operations.
First of all, I know you have a very busy agenda so I'm going to be very, very brief.
I just wanted to take a moment to thank our planner, Sierra Peterson, who helped guide us through the process very, very quickly and we appreciate her hard work.
We have read the staff report and we agree to all the conditions of approval and we are ready for your conditions and your deliberations.
I would like to make one comment and that is if you happen to visit the site, you may have noticed that it's actually occupied.
And that's because Caliber's main operation is across the street.
This particular portion of the building that's before you tonight was an auto body shop and they went out of business and Caliber leased it,
found out that they did need a use permit, filed as soon as they could, did and that's before you tonight.
So just wanted to be real clear that it is occupied already and that's why.
Any questions?
No.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Clerk, are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item?
Thank you, Chair.
I have no speaker slips on this item.
All right.
Any comments or questions from the dais or motions?
Commissioner Lee?
Yeah.
I don't see any issues with this item either so a motion to approve.
I have a motion.
Commissioner Hernandez?
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Apologies, I didn't get to disclose in the beginning during disclosures and recusals that I did receive an email from the representative of the applicant and I'm also happy to second.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I have a motion and a second.
Commissioner Nybo?
I'll second.
Did we already get a second?
Yeah, we can get a third.
I do have a, I do have a, I did speak with the applicant.
Okay.
Thank you.
All right.
Will the clerk call a roll?
Thank you, Chair.
Oh, wait.
I'm sorry, Vice Chair Chase.
Also, I spoke with the applicant.
You spoke with the applicant.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Thank you, Chair.
Commissioners, please unmute.
Commissioner Lee?
Aye.
Commissioner Lamas?
Aye.
Commissioner Nybo?
Aye.
Commissioner Kayden?
Aye.
Commissioner Caden?
Aye.
Commissioner Hernandez?
Aye.
Commissioner Macias Reid?
Aye.
Commissioner Ortiz?
Aye.
Commissioner Blunt?
Aye.
Vice Chair Chase?
Aye.
Commissioner Rischke?
Aye.
Commissioner Rischke?
Aye.
Commissioner Thompson is absent.
And Chair Young?
Aye.
Thank you.
The motion passes.
Thank you.
All right.
The next item.
Thank you very much.
The next item is item four, the Cotton Lane Apartments P24.
Yeah.
After this one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cotton Lane Apartments P24-022.
Welcome back.
Hello again.
Good evening again.
I am still Danny Abbas with the Planning Division.
This item is a request to construct a three-story, 54-unit apartment complex.
on a vacant 1.638.
This item is a request to construct a three-story, 54-unit apartment complex on a vacant 1.638
acre site located at the north of the North of the West.
This item is a request to construct a three-story, 54-unit apartment complex on a vacant 1.63 acre site located at the north of the North of the West.
corner of West Dockton Boulevard and Cotton Lane.
The site is a request to construct a three-story, 54-unit apartment complex on a vacant 1.63 acre site located at the northwest corner of West Dockton Boulevard and Cotton Lane.
item is a request to construct a three-story 54-unit apartment complex on a vacant 1.63-acre
site located at the northwest corner of West Stockton Boulevard and Cotton Lane. The site
is surrounded to the north by the Copperstone Village Apartments, the south and west by
single unit dwellings, and the east by Highway 99. The area includes Cosumnes River College,
the Cosumnes River College Light Rail Station, the Valley High North Laguna Library, Shasta
Community Park, restaurants, grocery store, and additional commercial services. To accommodate
proposed density, requested entitlements include a rezone. Staff receive feedback from members
of the public at a January community meeting and through email correspondence expressing
project opposition and concerns related to flooding, rezoning, parking, and resident access. Planning
staff supports the rezone and more dense multi-unit housing at the site since it will position
more citizens proximate to resources and amenities, allowing convenient walkable access to a college,
library, 18-acre city park, routine services, and transit. The project design incorporates several
stormwater management features including onsite green space, bioretention treatment ponds, swales,
and a curb and gutter system. Though there is no requirement for a minimum number of vehicle parking spaces,
the project provides 54 spaces or one per unit. A parking space will be a separate and additional cost
from rent, encouraging residents to be carless in a walkable and transit accessible environment. Residents
will have direct access to the college, library, park, commercial services, and transit via a multi-use trail
immediately north of the site. They will also have access via West Stockton Boulevard. Cotton lane access
would become available if and when other parcels were developed with dedications and city street standard frontage
improvements. Once sufficiently built, the city would accept the roadway as public right of way.
Staff recommends that the commission forward a recommendation of a project approval to city council based on the
findings of fact and subject to the conditions of approval listed in attachment five of the staff report. Staff finds the
project consistent with the general plan, land use goals and policies related to compact urban development,
development intensity, link to transit, provision of housing near a college, and increased housing variety and choice.
That concludes staff presentation. Both staff and the applicant team are available to answer any questions. Thanks.
Thank you. Before I forget, are there any disclosures, recusals from members in the dais?
Commissioner Nybo? I called the applicants engineer with questions about cotton lane drainage, and we discussed that this afternoon.
Thank you. No one else? All right. Thank you. Clerk, are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item?
Thank you, Chair. Yes, I have one speaker for this item. Charlene?
Good evening. Hopefully you had a chance to read my comment. It was e-comment online.
I am Charlene Crabb, the captain of the neighborhood watch for our neighborhood, and on behalf of our neighbors, we oppose this project.
We would encourage the developers to build either houses or duplexes. They are proposing a three-story building on a road with five single-story houses. Overhead, that looks great. Up front, it doesn't.
They are suggesting this three-story building on our street with five houses that has a one-lane dirt road that we have used for 70 years that we maintain.
If you can't. If you can just envision it, the road would stop at a certain point where they would develop it, and then it would drop off, so to speak, and go dirt, gravel again.
There is no drainage on that street. There never has been. It's not a developed street. It's a private road.
So we've always had problems with flooding. There is no sidewalk, and there is no vehicle access from Cotton Lane to any of those facilities, the college, the park, the light rail, or the library.
People do come down the street, because there is apartment complex there, and they just squeak underneath the barrier.
So you're not going to do it with a stroller or anything, but you can get through.
But again, it's not a public road. It's a private road. It has always been designated as a private road.
And I'm sure you folks know that there's already a Cotton Square, College Square plan that's been in the development since 2004.
And just on the other side of this, there's a 92 apartment complex that they've been trying to put through.
And according to Councilperson Vang, I guess it's on hold again.
So that's the logical place where you would put this on the other side of the apartments, not on a dirt road with five single-story houses.
My biggest personal concern is for the parking.
I understand how they've changed the rules, and you don't have to do this, but you've got one parking spot optional for each apartment.
You figure there's a husband and wife. You maybe have roommates.
And if you have the option and you're a single mother and you can't even afford the rent, you're not going to take a parking spot also.
There is no off-street parking close.
You'd have to drive down to Shasta, which there's also a business on the corner.
And then you'd have to walk into oncoming traffic going north on a two-lane road.
Thank you for your comment. Your time is now up.
No sidewalk and no lights.
Chair, I have no more speakers on this item.
Thank you.
Are there any questions, comments from the dais?
Commissioner Naibo.
Oh, sorry, go ahead.
Commissioner Lamas.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you, staff, for the report. Thank you for the public comments.
I did, I am kind of curious to hear a little bit more about the drainage.
If staff can address maybe some of those concerns and some of the mitigating factors that were incorporated into the project.
And also the bioretention treatment ponds.
I'm assuming that's like a wastewater pond.
Just wanting to get some clarification there.
That's if that's what's being proposed here.
If so, I'm curious about the rationale to not connect it to a city utility.
And if that's common for other housing developments.
Yeah.
If we may, I see the engineer is here.
I could do it.
But the engineer, I'd like to leave that to the experts.
And we also have utility staff here, too.
So.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And the other thing that I have mentioned.
And the only thing that I have mentioned is to update those those culverts.
Make sure that the water can go go through.
And we're connecting to the city system.
Which currently there is no connection to the city's strong drain system.
So I've been working with, um, from the engineering waters resources division.
So we're gonna have a project specific drainage study to make sure that we address all the concerns.
As for buy retention.
That's just the water on site.
Which is gonna be detained.
and go into that system and what it is is a layer
that filters out the water so it's clean
when it comes into the system.
Okay, thank you for that clarification.
So it sounds like this project will at some point
definitively connect to a water retention system,
stormwater retention system.
Well this public storm drain system, correct,
on West Stockton Boulevard.
Okay.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That yield my turn.
Thank you.
Commissioner Nybo.
If I can ask a clarifying question.
So on the south side of Cotton Lane where it's now,
where it's ditches, upgraded culverts,
is that going to drain to the sewer storm drain collector, a DI?
Correct, correct, yes.
Okay, so there will no, so this will rectify the issue
on the Cotton Lane where there's no drainage right now.
Yes, correct.
And then on the north side of Cotton Lane where it's paved,
that's also going to be collected,
that'll be collected in just a normal DI.
Correct, because we have a curb and gutter
that's going in there and then so we're going to take
all that water, get it collected,
and essentially convey it into the public system.
On the drainage with, I'm sorry, for the topo,
I don't remember looking, does it drain west to east?
It's really flat and yes, it's supposed to drain west to east.
And so, but the issue is, is that due to the time that it's,
the systems have been in place, they don't have enough cover
on the pipes that are currently there.
When I went over there, they're all crushed,
so no water is going to be able to convey through.
It's all full of sediment.
So that's also restricting it and that's why you're having
flooding issues.
And so our proposal obviously is to upgrade everything in that
area and the vicinity, make sure that the water can be conveyed
appropriately to the, to the storm drain,
the public storm drain system, which we're going to connect to.
Did you happen to get elevations on the residents
of south of the property?
Correct, yeah, we did.
Are they draining towards the road or are they draining flat?
Everything drains to that drainage ditch,
which is essentially is on the south side of cotton lane.
The issue is there's a 12 foot strip that's owned by a neighbor.
And so that's why, that's why what we're doing,
everything is within our right of way, essentially our property.
And so that's why we're able to improve the,
the ditches along our side.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you, thank you, thank you Omar.
I do have a question for staff.
Sure.
If, and, and maybe you can comment.
So if it's in the conditions of approval, I didn't see it.
Are, is there any controlled parking on the north side of cotton lane?
Since it's only 18 feet?
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
The, the north side of cotton lane, um,
will have, will be restricted from, from parking.
There will be no parking allowed.
Uh, also because, uh, that will be, uh, emergency vehicle access only,
and they will need, um, the space to, uh, enter or exit from that.
So since, since it's, uh, since it's emergency vehicles,
the curb will be painted red.
Correct.
Curb is going to be painted red.
The access is only for, um, emergency vehicles in that area.
The, why we had to do that was because the existing cotton lane that the,
the gravel road, it varies between 13 to 16 feet, which isn't enough for a fire.
You need 20 minimum.
And so when we're, when we're, uh, paving it, essentially,
we're going to be getting 20 to 25 feet.
So that's a lot of additional room.
So we can have the fire access.
And so we'll be painting that portion of the parking of that area red.
So there's no, uh, parking available on that side.
Okay.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Any motions or further questions?
Commissioner Lamas.
All right.
To kind of belabor the point on the drainage.
Um, did, did I understand that it drained from east to west?
Right.
So the, the west is the lower point.
And the west side of the proposed parcel is also where the privately owned 12 or 20 feet,
I believe you said was located.
Is that correct?
Can you pull up the site?
Is that possible to pull it up?
I'm just, if not, it's okay.
I can verbally say.
Um, yeah.
So, so along cotton lane, the south side of cotton lane,
um, yeah.
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Is there on it?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So that makes it easier.
So along this side of cotton lane, which is the south side of cotton lane,
um, we don't show it, but I do have an exhibit here, which I can clarify if you need to.
Is there a way I can put, put my exhibit on?
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Well, I'll put my finger here.
But so this strip right here, there's a 12-foot strip.
You'll see the dark blue line is kind of what we own.
And along this side right here, which is my fingers going on the south side, that's
a 12-foot strip that's owned by a neighbor to the west.
And so during the application process, the city encouraged us to reach out to them so
we could build a public cotton lane roadway.
But because there wasn't an agreement with the neighbor, he didn't want to do it.
We're dedicating additional right away on our side so we can accommodate.
And so that 12-foot strip is along that side and you'll see the drainage ditch, which is
the other side, that's all on our side of the property.
So all the water is coming from the neighbors is all going into this ditch.
And the issue is, is that along that side, the culverts, which are crushed and they're
full of sediment, those are not able to convey the water west to east along cotton lane.
So our plans, which are going to be, and we're going to do a project specific drainage study
as well to make sure we address all the concerns to make sure that we can get all the water out.
Okay.
Thank you for that.
So it sounds like the road was kind of pushed north a little bit to accommodate the amount
of space you need to build the road and the drainage system, the culverts on the north side of that road.
Yes, we're granting additional 8.67 feet of right away for the roadway.
And we're also paving it, we're improving the road, meaning that from 13 feet, you're getting now 20 to 25 feet.
Along that side, it's going to be paved.
Okay.
Thank you.
And that's helpful.
I think part of my concern or question was that there was private land that wasn't going to be improved as part of this effort.
What did the drainage with that impact how the drainage, you know, the flow of water would go?
Yeah.
Would one part of that community be more impacted than others if everything's flowing beyond besides that point?
But it sounds like you guys have addressed that concern.
Correct.
Yeah.
Because anytime you do development when you're doing it, there has to be no adverse impact to any of your neighbors.
So you have to make sure that you're incorporating that water flow, especially when it's coming from them to you.
Okay.
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Perfect.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Commissioner Kayden.
Yeah.
Appreciate all the questions from my fellow commissioners on that.
It seems like a lot of the drainage concerns have been worked out.
It seems like this is a great project.
You know, when you see a dense, like more affordable housing type like this that's proposing, you know, an apartment project, I think it's really important for us to say yes.
Especially in this case, right next to a college and a light rail station.
So I'm happy to move the staff recommendation.
Thank you.
Commissioner Ortiz.
Oh, Commissioner Macias Reid.
I'll second.
Thank you.
I have a motion and a second.
Clerk, will you call the roll?
Chair, commissioners, please unmute.
Commissioner Lee.
Aye.
Commissioner Lamas.
Aye.
Commissioner Naybo.
Aye.
Commissioner Kayden.
Aye.
Commissioner Hernandez.
Aye.
Commissioner Mastis Reid.
Aye.
Commissioner Ortiz.
Aye.
Commissioner Blunt.
Aye.
Viceそんな Chase.
Aye.
Commissioner Rischke.
Aye.
Commissioner Thompson is absent.
And Chair Young.
Aye.
Thank you.
The motion passes.
Thank you.
We're now going to the next item, which is item seven on the printed agenda, review of city fiscal year 2530 capital improvement program for consistency with the 2040 general plan M25-11.
And I guess before you begin, are there any disclosures, recusals, or discussion items?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good evening, Chair Young and members of the Planning and Design Commission.
I'm Nguyen Nguyen, Associate Planner with Long Range Planning.
This item pertains to the city's capital improvement program, or CIP for short, that is developed annually by the Department of Finance.
The CIP is the city's five-year financial plan for funding infrastructure and facility needs, and is included as a part of the city's proposed budget every year.
Each year, as part of the CIP process and in compliance with city code, planning staff receives a list of new CIP projects developed by our Department of Finance in collaboration with other city departments responsible for facilitating and implementing capital improvement projects.
Planning staff then reviews and evaluates the new projects for consistency with the goals and policy of the general plan.
Since new projects are added to the city's CIP every year, the Planning and Design Commission is asked to review staff's analysis and make a finding of consistency on an annual basis.
The CIP was last reviewed by the Planning and Design Commission in May of last year.
New CIP projects are typically identified by the various city departments through council approved master plans and programming guides, such as the Transportation Priorities Plan and the Park Project Programming Guide.
Since programming guides and other documents that guide capital investments must be consistent with the city's general plan when adopted, this process supports general plan consistency.
This year, as a part of the proposed 2025 to 2030 CIP, there are 10 new capital improvement projects.
The remaining five are city-wide programs and include technology improvements to code enforcement's case tracking system, the replacement of non-compliant water meters, street and alley maintenance, a neighborhood street light replacement program, and a traffic safety response program.
Based on the high level project descriptions provided, staff finds that the proposed projects are aligned with the general plan's goals and policies to contribute to the safety and well-being of residents and maintain a high quality of existing infrastructure.
A more detailed analysis can be found in attachment two of the staff report.
Based on staff's consistency analysis, staff is recommending that the Planning and Design Commission pass a motion to approve forwarding to city council or report on the city council.
The budget office will inform Council of the commission's consistency findings during Council's review and approval of the 2025 to 2030 CIP in June.
This concludes my presentation.
I am joined by Amy Yang, senior planner for any questions that you might have.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item?
Thank you, Chair.
I have no speaker slips on this item.
Okay.
Any comments or questions from the Dias?
Or motions?
Vice Chair Chase.
Thank you, Chair.
Thank you, Newin, for the report.
I move that we approve this for moving on to the city council.
I have a motion.
Commissioner Lummis?
I had a question.
Sure.
I'm curious about the CIP and how the city or what the city is considering for improving technology to help code enforcement.
Does this have anything to do with like parking meters and possibly going from coin base or coin base and card base or some kind of electronic system and making sure that those are online?
I have a question.
I have a question.
Sure.
I'm curious about the CIP and how the city or what the city is considering for improving technology to help code enforcement.
Does this have anything to do with like parking meters and possibly going from coin base or coin base and card base or some kind of electronic system and making sure that those are online and available?
Or is there something specific under CIP that the city is considering for the technology category?
Thanks for the question, Commissioner Lamas.
electronic system and making sure that those are online and available?
Or is there something specific under CIP that the city is considering
for the technology category?
Yeah, thanks for the question, Commissioner Lamas.
I believe from conversation with our code enforcement staff
that this is part of a request, a budget request this year
for council to approve an 8% fee increase for a technology fee.
And that's part of the development process
when permits are approved and reviewed.
I believe that this technology equipment upgrade
is really aimed at increasing efficiency
in the way we track code enforcement cases.
And so I don't believe, I think parking enforcement
is a different group.
So this is a code enforcement group
that operates out of this community development department.
Okay, thank you for that distinction.
So that makes it, so it sounds like it's
some kind of internal software, tracking software
to help be responsive and get status on what happened
for any follow-up on a code enforcement complaint
and any resolutions.
Okay, thank you, appreciate that.
With that, I yield my time.
Thank you.
Commissioner Blunt.
Second Vice Chair Chase's motion to pass.
I have a second.
Any other comments or questions?
All right.
Commissioners, please unmute.
Commissioner Lee?
Aye.
Commissioner Lamas?
Aye.
Commissioner Naibo?
Aye.
Commissioner Caden?
Aye.
Commissioner Hernandez?
Aye.
Commissioner Mastis-Reed?
Aye.
Commissioner Ortiz?
Aye.
Commissioner Blunt?
Aye.
Vice Chair Chase?
Aye.
Commissioner Rischke?
Aye.
Commissioner Thompson is absent.
Chair Young?
Aye.
Thank you, the motion passes.
Thank you.
Now moving on to item five on the printed agenda.
Crocker Village Residential Development P24-028.
Before we begin the presentation, are there any,
well, we already did disclosures, right, at the beginning,
so I think we're good.
So, yeah.
Welcome back.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good evening again.
I am Danny Epps with the Planning Division.
I wanted to make a, start by making a quick note that corrects mention of a mitigated negative
declaration on page one of the staff report.
The project, as evaluated later in the report, is subject to a prior environmental impact report
and mitigation monitoring plan.
With that said, this item is a request to develop two distinct vacant parcels within the Curtis Park Village
planned unit development with single unit dwellings, including the 2.49-acre flex parcel
with 31 single unit dwellings and the 2.37-acre multi-parcel with 30 single unit dwellings.
Staff accepted, reviewed, and are now making a recommendation on this application
and entitlements proposal.
The general surroundings of the parcels include single unit dwelling development
and the existing Curtis Park neighborhood, affordable senior apartments, commercial development,
Sacramento City College, and the City College Light Rail Station.
The two subject parcels are the only significantly sized remaining undeveloped residential parcels within the PUD.
The applicant request requires that the commission approve a tentative subdivision map to subdivide the parcels
for single unit dwellings, a conditional use permit to allow single unit dwelling development within the shopping center zone,
adoption of a resolution amending the Curtis Park Village PUD schematic plan and guidelines
to allow single unit dwellings within the multifamily housing designation,
and site plan and design review to construct the proposed single unit dwellings.
The Curtis Park Village PUD adopted by City Council in 2010 has always included land designated for market rate multifamily housing.
Separate and distinct from the senior affordable housing, the multifamily site was intended to combine with other uses
into a truly vibrant mixed-use neighborhood.
The inclusion of market rate multifamily housing within the vision statement has not changed since the original adoption of the PUD.
Also, within both the original and current goals and objectives of the PUD is to, quote,
provide various housing choices including single family and cluster, affordable senior, and market rate multifamily residences.
This clearly distinguishes that both affordable senior housing and market rate multifamily housing have always been planned.
The PUD guidelines denote three predominant types of land use development, commercial, single-family housing, and multifamily housing.
The multipartial location concept and land use is described in the following way.
Quote, the area along the western property line of Curtis Park Village South and west of the Court Single Family Home Area
and on the north edge of the commercial area flex zone that contains the affordable housing project
can best be described as the multifamily, high-density housing area in the Curtis Park Village plan,
allowing for the development of apartments and condominiums and condominium multifamily housing.
The original PUD schematic plan included approximately seven acres dedicated to the multifamily housing designation,
excluding land reserved for senior affordable housing.
The area in the middle of the plan, outlined in red, shows land dedicated to multifamily housing.
In 2016, council approved a PUD amendment that reduced the acreage of market rate multifamily housing to the 2.37 acres shown,
allowing an increase in the land dedicated to single-unit dwellings.
Now, the applicant is proposing to eliminate the remaining multifamily housing designation.
Staff has received multiple letters from community members and groups included within the staff report
and posted as e-comments online, including letters that support staff's recommendation,
letters that support the applicant's proposal,
and letters that support denial of single-unit dwelling development on both flex and multiparcels,
on both of the flex and multiparcels.
I also wanted to add that four letters were added,
supplemental printed out, and I believe distributed to the commission.
To be clear, there is no proposal by staff or anyone else
that a 100-foot-tall building be constructed on the multiparcel site.
We have seen the purported renderings of this structure
and heard concerns from residents
and would like to, again, reiterate that staff does not propose development projects.
Staff recommends approval of the proposed flex parcel development
and its associated entitlements with 31 single-unit dwellings
based on the findings and subject to the conditions listed in Report Attachment 3,
since it is consistent with the Curtis Park Village PUD
and compatible with surrounding commercial and residential development.
Staff recommends denial of the proposed PUD schematic plan amendment,
schematic plan and guidelines amendment,
and its associated entitlements to remove the high-density multifamily housing designation from the PUD.
Staff finds this proposed action inconsistent with the vision, goals, and objectives of the PUD
and that it conflicts with the necessary findings to remove this designation.
Specifically, it is inconsistent with general plan land use policies that encourage development intensity adjacent to transit
and encourage a mix of housing types to provide options for residents of different income levels.
If the commission wants to approve staff recommendation this evening,
the commission has everything before it that is necessary to do so,
including findings of fact and the necessary conditions to make a final decision.
If the commission wants to approve proposed single-unit dwelling development on both parcels,
as proposed by the applicant,
you will need to provide findings of fact in support of single-family development on the multi-parcel site
and direct staff to return with the findings and conditions of approval.
If the commission wants to deny single-unit dwelling development on both the flex and multi-parcel sites,
the commission will need to provide findings for denial of the flex site development
and direct staff to return with the findings language for final action.
That concludes the presentation.
The applicant would also like to make a presentation
and after both staff and the applicant would be available for any questions.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
I'm going to have the applicant come up for a presentation.
Hello.
Good evening, commissioners.
Thank you again for having me here today.
If you don't mind, I'd like to kind of start with some of the issues that I addressed
or I referenced, I should say, in my earlier comments,
and then I'll have the applicant come up and speak about the project
and talk about the history and the timeline.
So why am I here today?
I'm here today because the staff report is walking this commission
into a blatant Housing Accountability Act violation.
Why is that?
Well, under the general plan, it specifically states single-family residential is allowed
in this land use designation.
When an applicant under the Housing Accountability Act comes in and proposes a project that is
consistent with the general plan, although there may be an inconsistency with the zoning,
which is what we have here in the PUD, the standards in the general plan are controlling.
Now, I know my client's counsel has spoken with the city about this,
and the reference and response the city has provided has been that there's a case.
It's a case called Snowball v. City of Los Angeles.
And I know this case well, actually.
We litigated the exact same issue against the city of Los Angeles in another case called
Ja Yimbi v. City of Los Angeles.
And we won in the trial court on that issue.
The city didn't appeal it.
They appealed Snowball.
City won.
What I can tell you is two things.
One, the issues are totally different, which is why I am suggesting this commission is being
led into a mistake.
The issues are different for two key reasons.
In Snowball, there was no contrary objective development standard to the general plan.
The issue in Snowball concerned inconsistency in the zoning and whether or not a rezone was required
in order to access the highest density possible under any of the zones allowed in that land use designation.
That's just not the case here.
We have an objective development standard in the general plan that conflicts with what staff
is telling you is an objective development standard in the PUD.
Another key difference is that there is a second sentence in the provision that was litigated in Snowball that was not actually fully litigated.
And actually, the Court of Appeals specifically said we're not addressing it in our decision.
And what was it?
It was, I'll read you the sentence.
So the first sentence deals with the requirement in the HAA that if you have an inconsistency in the zoning,
then you are going to have to apply the general plan requirements.
There's a sentence after that.
It goes as follows.
If the local agency has complied with paragraph two, that's a requirement for a notice of inconsistency,
the local agency may require the proposed housing development project to comply with the objective standards
and criteria of the zoning which is consistent with the general plan.
However, the standards and criteria shall be applied to facilitate and accommodate development
at the density allowed on the site by the general plan and proposed by the proposed housing development project.
So what is this saying?
That's saying if there is an inconsistency on a particular objective development standard,
by the way, in my view, irrespective of whether there's an inconsistency between the zoning and the general plan,
you have to apply the objective development standard in the general plan.
The site at issue here is neighborhood land use designation.
And if you open up the general plan and look at the uses allowed, single-family residential is in there.
So I bring this up to just, again, echo my view and our view, my office's view, that this is a big problem.
And we wanted an opportunity to talk about it with the city attorney because I don't believe, in particular,
the second part was addressed by Snowball, and I don't believe it's addressed in the staff report.
The second part of J4, I should say.
The other issue, which we have not had an opportunity to address with the city attorney,
is the claim that the definition of multi-unit in the city's municipal code constitutes an objective development standard for the term multifamily.
Let me help you understand why this is relevant.
Under the Housing Accountability Act, the city can only enforce objective development standards in reviewing a project.
So you cannot deny a project on the basis of any subjective development standards.
The PUD says multifamily uses are allowed in this zone.
And it does not say what's excluded, but it says multifamily uses.
And what the staff report says is multifamily means multi-unit from our municipal code.
Multi-unit means three units or more.
Well, there's a major problem.
First off, multi-unit is not multifamily for a couple reasons.
First off, if you read the municipal code, what it says is it's a definition of a structure.
That is not the same issue here.
You can have even large, you can have a large residence which is multifamily.
But let me raise other issues here, and I hope you understand this because I think this is a big deal.
So under state law, multifamily is two units.
Under federal law, it's five units.
The problem being it's not a subjective standard.
The PUD does not include a definition for what multifamily is.
So for staff to come in this staff report to say we've picked a definition of multi-unit from somewhere in our municipal code and it's three units, they've just selected what they want to present to this commission.
That is not individually verifiable, which is required by the HAA.
What is the term?
It's uniformly verifiable.
I cannot uniformly verify what the definition of multifamily is.
Well, why is that important?
Because I would argue that 30 units is multifamily.
It is a 30-unit subdivision.
So we have several other issues.
Those are the few that we wanted to talk about.
And one more thing I would add.
Well, why is it also important to talk about what is multifamily?
Well, like I said, under state law, two units is multifamily.
So I pose the question, and I actually would genuinely like to hear staff's opinion on this.
Would the addition of a junior accessory dwelling unit to each one of these single-family residences make these all multifamily structures?
Because it would under state law.
And I'm just curious.
I would love to know that.
Again, another issue that we were hoping to discuss if there was a continuance.
But our take, commissioners, we think there is a false premise guiding this staff recommendation.
One, a false premise that this would not be a violation of the Housing Accountability Act, which, again, I know this is a lot.
I've given you a lot.
I'm happy to address again and to present it in a different format if it would be helpful.
But secondly, the premise that there's some other project coming, that by denying 30 single-family residential units, we're saving something.
I don't think that's accurate.
That's not the question before you.
The question before you is whether you believe the city would benefit from having more housing or not,
and you have an applicant here who's prepared to provide it consistent with the requirements of the general plan.
And then I'll just conclude before the applicant speaks or if you have any questions.
One more issue, which I've never seen in my career.
I've never seen a single application split into two like this.
This was one project application.
This was not two project applications.
And you're being asked to approve half and deny half.
I'm genuinely curious if commissioners on this commission have seen that before,
where one application is half approved, half denied.
I just don't know how to even handle that type of situation.
Again, an issue that I believe probably required an opportunity to discuss.
With that, my ask, and the applicant will echo this ask,
is that you direct staff to make findings to approve this project in full.
It is consistent with the objective requirements in the general plan.
And you, commission, would like to see more housing built in the city.
And I assure you, we can provide the legal basis and justification to do that.
And it would be a much more secure action than what the staff report is trying to guide you into.
With that, I'll pass it to my client, the applicant, who will present on the actual project.
Unless this commission has any questions for me.
No, I think the applicant should present.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good evening, Mr. Chair and the balance of the planning commission.
My name is Paul Petrovich, Petrovich Development Company.
I've spent 44 years in this community building quality projects.
And the last 25 years, out of those 44 years,
spending hundreds of millions of dollars of my own money developing Crocker Village.
I guess before I go any further, I would like to make the comment that it appears that a continuance
for the lack of understanding of state law and the general plan dominating the PUD is appropriate.
To be a little bit more clear on the general plan,
the general plan says this property is zoned R4A.
The general plan specifically says R4A neighborhood, which this is designated,
is not only allowed to have single-family homes, but only required to have three per acre.
I come before you offering 30 homes on a small parcel to create middle-class housing.
Everybody's all excited and should be about affordable housing.
That was the first thing I built in this project 13 years ago.
I just didn't build affordable housing.
I built 25% more than was required for the master plan.
The project as it sits today has 20% affordable based on the total number of units.
So everybody waving their arms saying more, more, more should be tempered with,
but wait a minute, what has already been accomplished?
On May 8th, my counsel wrote a letter to the city attorney stating some and most of the objections
that my lawyer just presented to the city.
May 8th, we asked and followed up three times, got zero response, none.
To our question of this specific issue.
It wasn't until me sitting here that I hear the city attorney say,
we don't have any issues here.
Now, is that fair?
For a developer to sit here and wonder and wonder that we posed a, I don't know,
eight-page letter describing the law and citing law and saying this violates SB 330
and never getting an answer?
Hasn't this project been through enough?
The other issue that plagued this project took 21 court hearings
and resulted in me being granted a writ of mandate
and eventually the city settled for a fraction of my damages at $23 million.
This one is a piece of cake compared to that one.
That one took its toll on my health.
That one took its toll on my family.
Here I cleaned up one of the most contaminated brownfields in the country
where there was no housing plan, never to be brought forward.
And I've created 400 homes
and allowed and gave land for a landing of a bridge
to connect to the light rail station.
Now, your general plan agrees with me.
So why am I having to sit here and fight
for what's right?
To take you back in history,
prior to the fuel debacle,
Council Member Chenier and I got along pretty well.
Lauren Hammond steered the project to its approvals.
Jay Chenier inherited that.
Jay came to me in 2012
and I provided all of you the email
and said, hey, Paul,
SCNA, Curtis Park Neighbors,
and I believe it would be better
to take the affordable housing component
that's supposed to be on this multi-parcel
and move it to half the flex.
The reason?
To avoid a four-story monstrosity
of 130,000 square feet
being right in the middle of two-story homes.
That's what makes a harmonious plan.
It's one of the reasons
this plan won 15 national awards.
So I went and did that.
My mistake, staff's mistake at the time,
because the PUD was amended
to make that happen,
was not coming back around
and taking this multi-parcel
and saying it should be single family.
That's water under the bridge.
Your 2040 general plan says
what I'm asking for
not only should be approved,
but it's against the law not to
by HAA.
And what does that mean to the city?
If you violate HAA
and SB 330,
this goes to court,
you have to pay your legal fees,
I have to pay mine,
and you reimburse me mine,
and then you get penalized
$30,000 to $50,000 per unit
for violating SB 330.
That's $1.5 million.
The city's broke.
Now let me add another layer to this.
There have been zero
market-rate apartments built
within four miles of downtown
since 2020.
That's five years.
Zero of at least 80 units.
They don't pencil.
Materials and labor have skyrocketed,
and the difference between market-rate rents
and the cost to build a project
on this parcel
would take double the market rents
to pay the mortgage.
And that's after you invest $15 million cash.
So what does that really mean?
It means that the multi-parcel,
if not approved,
as I'm requesting,
has zero value.
So what's the second highest and best use
of this parcel
to me
who's owned it for 25 years?
As I've done
four times in three years,
I have given land
to nonprofits,
but mainly land banks,
get it appraised,
and take the write-off
against my income tax.
And that means
nothing gets built.
No homes.
Nothing.
And it remains a homeless camp,
which it is.
The other parcel
that is on Shopping Center
goes back to being Shopping Center.
That's its zone.
That's what I do for a living.
There'll be no homes,
no 61 homes,
no 31 homes
on the multi-parcel,
on the flex parcel.
Zero.
Because I don't,
I don't have another choice.
No one's going to buy it
from me
from market-rate.
And I sure as heck
am not going to give it away.
I don't want to fight the city.
I'm tired of it.
I could have taken the city
all the way to the end
with the damages
on the fuel center
because the court ruled
in my favor.
The appellate court
ruled in my favor unanimously.
The Supreme Court
ruled in my favor unanimously.
13 out of 13 judges
ruled in my favor.
And on top of that,
established it
as New California Law
for how this city
treated me
on that project.
If you don't think
I have the tenacity
and the wherewithal
and the frustration
to go do that again,
because the only reason
I do this stuff
is because I'm principled
and I want what's fair.
My father landed
on D-Day day one.
Survived.
He got caught
in the Battle of the Bulge.
Survived.
And was awarded
the Bronze Star.
And then he went
and freed
a concentration camp
at Dachau.
I was his only son.
And he told me,
don't let anybody
walk over you.
Stand up what's for right
and don't ever back down
at any cost.
And that's how
this project got done.
No one would have
taken on this
$100 million cleanup
and infrastructure
with his own money
and then delivered
another $400 million
of development
for this project.
So I ask you,
plead with you even,
to recognize
the merits
that I've already
satisfied the affordable
housing component.
I've already put in
an apartment building,
moved it at the request
of the city.
That could have gone
in the middle
of the neighborhood
but didn't put it there.
We wouldn't be having
this conversation.
I've also
taken 100%
of the flex land
that was the one
remaining issue
in the EIR
and the approvals
back in 2010,
15 years ago.
And I didn't build
80,000 square feet
more retail.
I'm now converting it
100% to residential.
Commissioner Caden,
you were interested
in seeing that more
housing gets built.
This project
has five different
housing types.
Brownstones,
22 to the acre.
Has multifamily,
affordable,
60 to the acre.
The court lots
are 15 to the acre.
The overall density
of the balance
is 7 to the acre.
We have front-loaded
and we have alley-loaded
homes.
We have five different,
on 35 net acres
of developable land.
I'm offering to build
another 61.
I went ahead
and took the balance
of the flex zone
that's undeveloped
and I thought,
I'll be fair.
I'll come and open hands
to the city
and say,
okay,
instead of making it retail,
I'll make it housing.
So now I'm adding
not 30 homes,
but 61.
And overall,
I do what's right.
More homes get built
near the light rail
so that if you took
those homes,
I'm now building
30 to the acre
effectively
on the multi-parcel.
let me tell you
about another experience.
Three years ago,
I had to come before
the council
and the planning commission.
Per the original approvals,
I had to declare
whether the flex parcel
that was remaining
was going to be residential
or shopping center.
With me having the right
to go back
whichever direction I went,
I spent the next two years
planning this project
as it is before you now.
Elevations,
tentative map,
all the civil engineering,
submitted it
for a pre-development meeting
with the city.
All 15 departments
of the city
were on a conference call
with us,
went over every aspect
of this project.
Everybody said fine,
including planning.
I was then asked
to pay a $93,400
application fee.
Stroke the check.
Check clears.
Staff says,
we don't support you.
We want attached
multifamily.
Where's the fairness?
What kind of message
does that send
to a developer
who's tried to do
the right thing,
who's developed this community
that doesn't exist anywhere?
If they had told me,
no, no, Paul,
sorry,
you got to build,
you got to build
market-rate apartments there.
We wouldn't be standing here.
They sucked me
into this process
and now have sucked you
into the process
of now being subjected
to an ungodly,
dead loser
of a lawsuit.
And I hope you believe me.
I don't want to do it.
But you're leaving me
no choice.
So tonight,
your decision is
no housing,
no additional housing,
or approve my plan,
or ask staff to come back
with conditions of approval.
Because I raise my hand
to God and tell you
that parcel,
that multi-parcel
is going straight
to a land bank.
And I'll raise my hand again
and say,
I'm coming back to you
for retail
on the balance
on the flex.
No more housing.
One other fact
I'd like to present to you.
If you take
the nine acres
surrounding the bridge
to the light rail station,
my average density
is 22 units per acre.
I exceed
the original master plan
because I converted
all the commercial flex
to housing
by 30%.
So if the overall goal
is to create more housing
near transit,
I'm your guy.
I'm ready to do it
and finish it.
Now what you have
behind you here
is at least 35 people
that live within
hundreds of feet
of this parcel.
And they are not happy.
Why?
SB330.
If I was to put this
in the hands
of a for-profit
affordable housing developer,
by right,
without coming before you,
without coming before
the city council,
ministerially,
can have 130 units
to 180 units approved
with you not having
one word to say
nor them having
one word to say
to stop them.
That's state law.
That's where
an eight-story
or a 10-story
structure comes in
that would cast
a shadow
on the balance
of this development.
Now,
if that happened,
now Crocker Village
would have 55%
of all of its units
affordable.
Name me one neighborhood
that has more than 15%,
20%,
30%,
40%,
55%.
Now,
I know there's people
in the audience
from Curtis Park.
They have the right
to come here
and say they want
what Commissioner Caden
referenced.
They have no skin
in the game.
In fact,
they asked me
to change the flex
to single-family homes
so that the walkway
on 10th
leading to the bridge
would have
residential housing.
But their goal
is never to
do what's fair.
It's to be punitive
at your expense,
at the public's expense.
They fueled that lawsuit
on the fuel station
and it cost the city
$26 million.
And another $3 million
in legal fees.
Are you going to let them
take you down
that path again?
Again,
I'm not arguing
their right to come here
and express their opinion.
But I would like
to take two or three acres
of the 17-acre park
in the middle
of Curtis Park.
And let's put
some affordable housing there.
You want to see a riot?
Now,
the type of housing
that I'm proposing here
qualifies under Fannie Mae
and Freddie Mac.
Now,
for those of you
that don't understand
those two programs,
because quite honestly,
I didn't
earlier in my career.
But for as little as
3% down
on a $650,000 house,
$18,000,
$19,000,
a middle-class family
can finally own a house,
finally get part
of the American dream
and raise a family
near transit,
near shopping,
and have a new house
instead of going somewhere
and buying
a $400,000
or $500,000
fixer-upper
that they've got to stick
another $200,000 in
out of their pocket.
That's the opportunity
that's right here.
Those are the people
that bought
the 77 homes
I already built
identical
to the award-winning homes
I have before you
in this application.
It's not just
about affordable.
The biggest housing crisis
is in the middle class,
and they can't afford it.
They can't afford
a million-dollar house.
Fannie Mae
have certain levels
of mortgage
that works
for this area,
and 3% is all you need.
One of the conditions
of approval
on the flex parcel
was for me
to pay more PIF
and more Quimby fees.
Park improvement fees
in Quimby
pay for more land
to go build
a park somewhere else.
I scratched my head
and said,
how in the world
could I own more
after building
damn near
a seven-acre park?
It didn't add up,
but then my civil engineer
figured it out.
He says,
they must be calculating
that the multi-parcel
is going to be built
at 130 units,
so therefore,
this parcel
at 31 units
is going to have
to pay the delta.
At my application level,
there's no more PIF
and Quimby.
I built more
than enough park.
Built.
Didn't pay
an in-luffy.
Built.
Cost me $7 million
to build that park
and detention basin,
and I'm proud of it.
So I want to reiterate
that it was
at the request
of the city
that the multifamily unit
did not get built
on the multi-parcel.
That was the intention.
That was the plan.
It got moved
at the city's request,
and I obliged
because it made
a better plan.
Now I'm standing
before you hearing
denial.
Not right.
Daniel,
could you put up
a third slide
that I provided?
or somebody?
Okay.
Before I get
to the slide,
I want to inform you.
Three affordable housing
developers have approached
me for this parcel,
and they want
to build 150 units here,
and they understand
that they can do it
ministerially,
and I want to show you
what that looks like.
I agree.
Staff did not say that.
I'm telling you,
that's the real world.
it's the slides
that I gave you yesterday.
There was four or five slides,
Daniel,
that I sent to you.
I don't believe
I received any slides.
Can the overhead
be turned on,
please?
Pardon me?
I'll use my handwritten notes,
my official ones
that I turned in.
This is for
massing purposes only.
Please do not think
that I'm standing here
saying this ugly structure
would be built.
That's not my intention here.
I'm trying to portray what an affordable housing developer for profit could walk in here and do to this community.
That structure is eight stories tall.
The existing affordable housing project is four stories tall.
That's double.
Why is that important?
The existing affordable housing is senior.
If they go non-senior, they need cars and they need a place to park.
That requires three stories of parking and the structure on top.
Now, does that look at a place when you look at the two-story homes that it would block the sun over?
Is that what you want to turn this project into by denying this?
Because you don't have control over this once I leave the podium.
So lastly, and I mean lastly, I ask you, and it's incumbent upon you, to either deny this application in its entirety.
You cannot split my application.
It's illegal.
It's against the law.
You either deny the whole thing and therefore violate HAA because the flex zone is designated residential now,
and you've now downzoned it because the other property is part of this application isn't getting built in part of this application that got denied.
Now you're below 15 units per acre on the two parcels.
You're at seven.
It's against the law.
You've got to be 15 or higher.
Or you can ask staff to come back, make findings of fact and conditions of approval to approve my application.
And I'd like to point out that it is also against the law for staff to have provided you with only one option.
The law says they cannot usurp your ability to accept or deny an application.
All they've done is given you one option.
Split the application.
Approve half.
Don't approve the other half.
It's illegal.
They have to give you both so you as a deciding body can have that flexibility and not waste everybody's time and public resources.
Again, this project has been through enough.
It's the best project that this city has ever seen relative to housing types, location, everything being cleaned up to residential standards,
accessible to light rail, first class shopping, a grand park, award-winning architecture.
What do you want out of me?
What more do you want out of me?
Now, I'm sorry.
I'm very passionate about this.
I've been through a lot.
It's been 25 years.
But a person can only take so much.
He can only take so much of being bludgeoned illegally for the second time.
Please help me.
Please help this community.
Please show pride in this project.
Help the middle class have more housing that they can afford.
That's just as big a part of the equation as providing more affordable.
I'm happy to answer any questions you may have, including whether I would be willing to add an attached ADU to meet the two-unit multi-definition.
Are you done with your presentation?
Yes.
I asked for questions.
Oh, before we go on to questions, I do want to provide a move to public comment.
But I wanted to do this.
I just want to make sure everyone understands.
We're going to try our best to hear from everyone.
But I currently have a running tally of 39 folks who are just wanting to speak on this item.
And then I have 26 folks who want to speak on the next item.
So I was trying to run the rough math here.
So just for this item alone, you know, if we're giving three minutes to every individual, we're talking about two hours.
And so by statute, I think at 930, I believe.
At 930, I have to ask the dais if we want to continue the meeting.
So what I'm anticipating here is that we'll probably be in the middle of public comments just for this item.
And then we'll probably need to, I want to say at 915, I would say, is just kind of maybe take a brief pause and just ask the dais if they want to continue.
Now, if you're running the math with me, the next item after that, not including presentations, just public comments, is about an hour and a half.
And so by statute, I think we can only go until 12 o'clock.
Is that correct?
Oh, we can do a continuance.
Continuance, right.
But I just wanted to just give the public, like, this is how much time we've got to work with.
I have to check.
That issue hasn't come up in a long time.
Let me just give you a minute to check.
Yeah.
Okay.
So council is going to double check.
But I just want to give the public an idea of kind of what we're trying to work out.
I mean, I think we can run it anyways.
I mean, should we ask questions now to the applicant or can we go straight to public comment and then just kind of open it up to just questions in general?
Because I think the dais would also just need to hear from the general public as well.
And, Mr. Chair, I would appreciate the ability to rebut any testimony.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
Yep.
Does that work for folks?
I'm going to move on to public comment now.
And then absolutely, you'll have that opportunity to rebut.
So, Clark, we have how many speaker slips?
We have 39 speaker slips.
39 speaker slips.
Let's go on to that.
And then we'll then open it up for questions.
So, thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Our first speaker is Kathleen Ave.
Thank you very much, commissioners.
My name is Kathleen Ave.
I live in Curtis Park on a street that directly connects to the development.
Since the applicant was able to use the overhead camera, may I?
Okay.
In that case, what I wanted to share with you all, and I will pass around,
is a picture I took this morning from the intersection of 10th and Crocker,
looking west into the development.
And what's great about this picture is that it shows the five levels of parking at City College,
the beautiful bridge that was constructed with public dollars to support a transit-oriented development.
It shows the four-story senior affordable housing complex and the legacy landmark water tower that literally towers over all of this.
And this picture makes it very clear.
I will say the olive tree is a very nice touch, Paul.
Love those.
But this is a great corner for multifamily housing.
And a person can imagine projects like this is from Redwood Energy.
So many.
That Cottonwood picture.
Beautiful.
These don't have to be blocky, ugly additions.
They can be beautiful and creative and bring a vibrancy and a dynamism to these neighborhoods
that I think we really need, in part because they would bring people who can afford these spaces
and who want to live in them in proximity to light rail.
I also want to say that this kind of attached multifamily housing has the opportunity to use energy and materials incredibly efficiently
and in a way that single-family housing just doesn't have,
and that is incredibly important for us today.
Next, I want to share that today, May 22nd, is the International Day of Biodiversity.
And this is relevant to this item and your next one because we are here in a biodiversity hotspot in California
and the Central Valley in particular, which means we have species that are nowhere else.
And the natural environments, natural working lands they live in are incredibly important to preserve.
And the way we do that is to get more people living close to the core in places like this with rich resources
that were publicly funded, the infrastructure and amenities like a light rail station and a beautiful bridge.
So I really hope you will deny both of these requests.
Let's stick with the plan for multifamily housing, that everyone understands what it is,
and make this a better neighborhood because of it.
And this is something we all have a stake in because our city needs housing,
our city needs flexible housing and diverse options.
So please support multifamily here in Crocker Village.
Thank you.
Thank you for your comment.
Our next speaker is Nancy Murray.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Excuse me.
Could you hold on for a second?
I'm sorry.
Commissioner Nybo, is there something you wanted to say?
Yeah.
Can we call them two at a time so they stack up?
And that way we can save that.
Thank you.
That's fine.
So after Nancy, I have Anna Petrovich.
Can I please have you line up on the aisle?
So hello, Commissioner and all of you commissioners.
Thank you for hearing my comments.
I will try to be brief.
I do live in Curtis Park.
I'm on 11th Avenue on the west side of the park.
On a good day, I can maybe hit the 10th Avenue parcel with a baseball.
And I have skin in the game.
We are all have skin in this game.
We need more multifamily housing.
I've been in Curtis Park and watched the many iterations of this project and the amount of multifamily market rate housing dwindle and dwindle and dwindle.
And now it is proposed to dwindle even farther.
So I oppose this application and urge you to also oppose the application.
This parcel, similar to the Cotton Road Lane, that was just beautiful and a perfect example of near a college, near a light rail station, near community assets like a park,
and the shopping that's available very close within walking distance of this parcels.
So I live very close to these parcels and believe that the best and highest use is what's currently in the PUD, which is multifamily housing.
And I will try to keep this short.
We have a lot of others.
Thank you.
Hi, my name is Anna Petkovich.
I am actually a resident of District 4.
I'm a member of Strong Sactown.
So I wanted to come out to comment and oppose the plan for single-family housing and ask the city to maintain the plan for multifamily housing.
It seems like a great opportunity to support Sacramento's need for the missing middle housing,
as well as an opportunity for multifamily housing along transit and contribute to affordability, density, and diversity in Sacramento housing.
Thank you.
Thank you for your comments.
Our next speaker is Arlene Krause, followed by Jerry McCall.
Hello.
Thank you for listening to our comments.
My name is Arlene Krause.
I'm a 20-plus-year resident of Curtis Park on Donner Way, which leads into the development,
and I firmly support multifamily housing.
I look for a community where people like my adult children might be actually able to live someday.
Multifamily housing is what makes our community vibrant.
I encourage you to support the housing we need in our community.
Thank you.
Hi, my name is Jerry McCall.
I support the proposed Petrovich development.
I've lived in the neighborhood for about two years now.
It's a beautifully designed residential development bridging both Curtis Park and Land Park.
The city's proposal for high density just doesn't conform with the surrounding neighborhood.
Regarding the shortage of housing in California, Midtown and the Broadway corridor seem to be the best places to put that sort of density.
We move there to be in proximity to Midtown for those services, but we don't want Midtown in our neighborhood.
I say approve the Petrovich project.
Thank you for your comments.
Our next speaker is Michael Turgeon, followed by Bill Pavel.
Paveo.
Paveo.
Excuse me.
Great.
Hi, everyone.
Michael Turgeon here on behalf of House Sacramento, a local grassroots organization for housing affordability in Sacramento.
Just want to emphasize that we think higher density multifamily housing is absolutely the right choice for both parcels,
especially if you take the view that both parcels should be treated as the same project.
Given all the amenities and the transit access in the immediate area and the inherent demand to live in a nice neighborhood like Crocker Village,
we are very skeptical of claims that multifamily at a greater density wouldn't pencil out on this site.
I don't know how you can look around Sacramento today and not see that projects are working today with our rates and the tariffs and all that
on parcels that are way worse than this Crocker Village location.
If multifamily housing doesn't work here, then we have way bigger problems to work through as a city.
We can't afford to turn back the clock and build single-family homes when we're in a deep housing crisis
and need to achieve deep GHG reductions.
In my opinion, it's also very sad to see the Housing Accountability Act weaponized to favor single-family over density,
just like how CEQA has long been weaponized for similar purposes.
In short, we commend the city's good-faith effort to facilitate dense multifamily infill,
even in neighborhoods like Crocker Village.
And we hope the city will, and I quote, do what's right and not back down.
Thank you.
Good evening.
I'm Bill Paveo, a District 7 resident.
And to my surprise, I'm going to agree with Petrovich, but Anna Petrovich.
Thank you.
First, I commend the city on the terms it reached in 2010.
I think that planned unit developments schematic plan and guidelines were right on.
And it made sense to put multifamily development in the middle of that development,
single-family to the north, commercial to the south,
in the middle with access to light rail over that bridge, multifamily, high-density in the middle.
That was the right idea.
I endorse staff's recommendation to retain the multi-parcel site as multifamily residential.
And I believe that every cogent argument they made for that parcel applies to the flex parcel as well.
That is, we need multifamily, especially next to light rail and the community college.
That is where our community should be developing that higher-density product.
If anything, and I noticed that in the plan and in the staff report it referenced that when the plan was first developed,
the flex zone was created in recognition that development in this area is not expected to occur for a number of years,
and market conditions will likely change during this period of time.
Conditions have gotten much worse since then for residents in our community,
especially low and very low-income residents.
You've probably seen the California Housing Partnership reports on overpayment in our community,
extreme rent burdens especially affecting tenants in our community.
We need more multifamily product.
And that alone will begin to slow down some of the escalation of rents in our community.
So in summary, I endorse staff's recommendation to not change the multifamily parcel designation,
but I disagree with staff report on the flex parcel.
Keep it where it is, where multifamily by right, and those other uses as permitted under a CUP.
But I would not change that.
Thank you.
Thank you both for your comments.
Our next speakers are Ralph Proper, followed by Sheila Harrington.
Hello, Commissioners.
I'm Ralph Proper.
I'm a 40-year resident of Curtis Park.
I'm also past president of the Environmental Council of Sacramento,
which was founded 50 years ago,
to try to deal with our bad air quality as well as the loss of habitat.
Infill development is what we need.
Since then, of course, we have two crises that have materialized,
the existential crisis of climate change as well as the extreme need for affordable housing.
And having multifamily housing near the light rail station is the way to go.
I think we need to have as much multifamily housing near that as possible.
That's all I have to say.
Thank you.
Good evening, Commissioners.
My name is Sheila Harrington, and I live on 10th Avenue,
literally two blocks from the site being discussed today.
For that reason, one could argue that it's really in my best interest
to support the developer in his request to have the zoning changed.
The way I see it, though, this is really about whether we,
as both individuals and the city, walk the walk.
Because as a city, we've been talking the talk for 20 to 30 years.
We know that we need to address climate change,
and we've talked extensively about how we need to reduce carbon emissions.
Our city planners are well familiar with the largely agreed upon ideas of smart growth,
which advocates reducing urban sprawl and carbon emissions
by building high-density infill developments near rapid transit.
But at the end of the day, it comes down to each of us as individuals
and to our local elected representatives.
My contribution to this effort is overcoming my own NIMBY feelings,
because, of course, on some level,
I would rather have single-family homes there,
and I expect that that would be better for our property values.
But I am willing to push my selfishness aside,
because I believe in high-density infill developments,
and this is the perfect spot for one.
It's right by the light rail, right by City College.
So that's how I'm walking the walk.
What I'm asking of each of you is that you consider holding the developer
to the previous plan, which required multifamily dwellings on that unit.
So thank you for your consideration.
Thank you both for your comments.
Our next speakers are Janice Kwan, followed by Andrea Rosen.
Good evening, commissioners.
My husband and I recently moved to Crocker Village
after seeking out for several years wanting to live there.
Like my fellow neighbor, we also were in Midtown
and sold our house due to the density
and wanting a more single-family community and residence.
I actually came from San Diego.
My husband and I moved up here 12 years ago.
One thing that we loved about Sacramento
were just how many single-family homes there were and the community.
If you have been to San Diego recently where we grew up,
it is extremely filled with density all over the place.
They have ruined, actually, that community, and it's a shame.
And I hate to see that happen here in Sacramento as well.
I am hoping that you support the developer's plan,
and I oppose the staff's recommendation.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hello, commissioners.
My name is Andrea Rosen, and first I would like to ask you
if you could dig through the e-comments to look at my e-comments for more detail.
I live on Portola Way, right on the edge of this development,
and I, too, have been working on this development for 25 years.
Actually, before Mr. Petrovich purchased the property,
we were working, our neighborhood was working with Union Pacific.
Our neighborhood put a ton of blood, sweat, and tears in negotiating those PUD guidelines.
And we gave up a lot.
The developer gave up a little, and we have a beautiful development.
And believe me, Mr. Petrovich knows how to build high-quality multifamily.
I refer you to his development called Whiskey Hill at 21st and S.
So I am absolutely aghast that we're down to this very old-fashioned, basic,
every single thing has to be single-family.
Attached housing is not a dirty word.
People need places like duplexes and triplexes and fourplexes to live in.
And that is what we considered both at the time when we agreed to the flex zone
and at the time we insisted on some multifamily.
My recollection back in 2010 was there was not opposition to multifamily in Crocker Village.
It was part of the whole vision of having diversity in our neighborhood, okay?
The PUD guidelines are very, very clear that they call for alternative housing.
Housing types.
Alternative housing types does not mean four different single-family residential plans.
Alternative housing types means duplexes, triplexes, quadplexes, and modest apartments.
So I am also baffled by the complaint about the staff's action on the parcel, on the application.
I believe it's the developer's choice how to submit an application to the city.
The developer knew there were two parcels involved.
One had been previously zoned for multifamily and the flex zone was open, a little bit more open.
So I encourage you to oppose.
I oppose the staff's recommendation on the flex zone because I think it's the city's honestly one of their last opportunities to build multifamily.
Or it doesn't have to be apartment buildings.
It can be attached housing.
There's nothing wrong with having attached housing.
You could have the people who work in the commercial center have an opportunity to live near where they work.
So I also have to say that I'm shocked at the level of threats level that you again.
I was on the planning commission myself, and maybe I just haven't been to enough planning commission meetings recently.
But I was sitting there listening to the developer's presentation and just truly...
Thank you for your comment.
Your time is now up.
Thank you.
Our next speaker is Edith Hannigan, followed by Nicholas Lidke.
Good evening, planning commissioners.
I live on Bastone Walk in Crocker Village, half a block north of the flex parcel and a few homes east of the multi-parcel.
I am literally right in the middle between these proposed developments.
Very few homes.
Probably enough for two hands.
We'll be more directly impacted by this project than myself.
I also have a master's degree in urban planning.
And my grandfather was also at the Battle of the Bulge and Colmer Pocket.
I support the staff recommendation to approve the proposal for the flex parcel and deny the proposal for the multi-parcel.
The developer has been telling Crocker Village residents that the city is going to require a 100-unit affordable housing apartment building today.
But that is not the action in front of you this evening.
The developer has also accused me of lying about my address.
Allegedly called me misguided in a neighborhood meeting.
And sent me nasty emails, despite my repeated requests to ask him to stop.
All of this for expressing my First Amendment and Brown Act rights in front of you here today.
My grandfather was in so many battles and received so many Purple Hearts, he stopped accepting them.
And he also told me to stand up for what is right, regardless of the cost.
Talking points distributed by the developer for this meeting want us to mention that this action today would ruin our dream community.
But I am here to tell you that a dense, diverse, urban neighborhood is my dream community.
The talking points also pit Crocker Village residents against the affordable housing crisis.
And urges residents to tell you not to let the crisis override our concerns.
But my concern is the affordability crisis.
My concern is our unhoused neighbors who sleep in their cars on 10th Avenue.
My concern is the livability of Sacramento.
Single-family homes priced near or above a million dollars, as Crocker Village is, is not providing middle housing.
Missing middle housing.
Denying the developer's request to rezone the multi-parcel opens up the ability to create true missing middle housing in the form of market rate multifamily described in the PUD guidelines.
I want to be clear that I love living in Crocker Village.
I want to share this vibrant community with more people.
I encourage you to work with the developer to find a middle ground between single-family homes and high-rise apartments for the multi-parcel.
The first step of that conversation is voting for the staff recommendation in front of you today.
Thank you very much for your time.
And please extend my gracious thanks to Commissioner Reid for her integrity in recusing herself from this issue.
Have a lovely evening.
Good evening, Mr. Commissioner, or Mr. Chair and Commissioners.
My name is Nicholas Lidke.
I, too, live on Baston Walk in Crocker Village.
Actually, Crocker Village is lot 184.
My property is literally three lots down from the multi-parcel property in question, so I certainly have skin in the game.
I respectfully request that the Commission follow the recommendation of your professional planning staff and deny the developers' request for an amendment to the Curtis Park Village PUD and the requested tentative subdivision map.
Adding 30 more $3.25 million homes to this neighborhood is not going to solve this city or the state's housing crisis.
A thoughtfully constructed market rate multifamily unit is perfectly fitting with the development that there is currently in Crocker Village.
It will be right down the street from the multi-unit senior family development that is in the property.
I know the developer has been threatening us with some eight-story monstrosity of buildings on top of parking lots.
That is not necessarily the development that is being called for by the city staff with any kind of detailed reading of the city staff recommendation.
Furthermore, the city staff recommendation is proposing three times more housing units than what the developer's recommendation is.
Given that this project is literally going up in my backyard, let me briefly address some of the concerns that have been raised and probably will be raised by my neighbors in the Crocker Village community, largely based on talking points that have been provided by the developer himself.
First, this development will not ruin the character of the community.
It is already a mixed type of housing community.
We have large single-family homes.
We have the brownstones.
We have the smaller single-family homes.
The senior center is a great addition to the community.
They are super friendly.
I see no reason why more people living in multi-family housing will not be the same as the existing residents there.
Secondly, the proposed multi-family development will not ruin a dream of this community.
In fact, in accordance with Davis Sterling, and I went back and checked today, every one of us who bought into the Crocker Village development were given the site plan prior to closing on housing.
When you look at the site plan, it is really clear that the multi-unit development is right there.
Admittedly, market conditions could change.
It could be multi-unit.
It might not be.
But every one of us bought into that neighborhood knowing full well that there was the potential for multifamily housing to go in on that parcel.
Furthermore, this PUD has been in place for 15 years.
So for the developer to now say that this is some kind of shocking violation of his rights is a little bit rich.
I think for 15 years we've all known what may go in there.
Finally, and I saw several of you smirk knowing me from my day job, I really do not agree with the developer's contention around SB 330.
There have been several additional bills that have been passed in recent years.
Building upon that, I really do not think that this project is going to violate any of the current state housing laws or AB 712, which is moving through the legislature right now.
All of that said, I respectfully request that you approve your staff recommendation in full.
Thank you for your time.
Thank you both for your comments.
Our next speaker is Louise May, followed by Ted Bacani.
And by the way, I just want to appreciate everyone who's coming up.
They're being super efficient to the point.
So thank you very much, everyone.
I want to, I want to, I want to start out by saying that everybody in red here is standing in solidarity to keep the neighborhood in single family homes and support Mr. Hedovich.
I am an eight year headed the tenants association at Curtis Park apartments.
Um, a three story senior apartment building in Crocker village.
Despite the name, we are in Crocker village, not Curtis park.
The prospect of this project will affect the lives of about 140 seniors.
I am representing them.
And again, we support the motion.
We already have situations outside our building of homeless, other people living, fighting, dealing drugs and using them on the street between our building and your proposed multi unit structure.
And I'm not saying that you're bringing in these problems or making any aspirations, but in any population, there's a percentage of people who will contribute to the already difficult problems on a small dead end street that by its nature creates a space for this activity.
This will surely keep us inside our homes.
It has been determined that our area has met and exceeded by 30% the density requirements set by the city.
It also requires subsequent homes to be keeping with the homes around it.
Does this proposed building do that?
Your overflow parking will fill our streets, leaving parking unavailable for homeowners.
As an aside, as a realtor for 30 years, duplexes, triplexes, fourplexes don't sell.
It seems that the decision to construct this, what seems like might be a huge building, was made by the city council for personal reasons against the developer.
You need to not take your issues out on your constituents in the village who have bought and rented in what was to be a quiet and beautiful neighborhood.
I, and 30% of the people I live with, will live about 40 or 50 feet from this structure.
We may never see the sky again from our windows and will have to go outside and look up to do so.
And what if your mother lived there?
Thank you for your time and hopefully your consideration of the impact on this neighborhood.
Hello, my name is Sed Bakani and I live right across the street from the, um, uh, the flex, uh, property.
Um, I'm actually here because I, you know, I wanted to actually learn more about what's going to happen.
And after listening to Mr. Petrovich, um, I would like to support him.
Um, you know, I believe he's developed a really great neighborhood and I feel like he will continue, um, to make the neighborhood great.
Um, I think that, um, if we're looking at multi, um, family homes, I mean, there are many, there are many properties around Sacramento,
that buildings that are empty, um, that can be, um, utilized for that purpose.
Um, they're also close to light rail stations.
Um, the light rail stations that I live by, I mean, it's great that it's there for us as a community, um, to use.
And no matter what's going to be built there, um, I'm sure that, uh, um, the light rail, that we will benefit, you know, whoever lives there will benefit from that light, light rail station.
So I'm just here actually to support, um, my neighborhood and support Mr. Petrovich in, um, what he plans.
I think he's going to continue to do a great job, um, and our community will, um, be better after it's done.
Thanks.
Thank you both for your comments.
Our next speaker is Christine Seador followed by Thuyen Nguyen.
Christine Seador.
Good evening, commissioners.
My name is Christine Seador and I live directly across from the multi parcel.
I, in one of the brownstones and I strongly oppose the city's plan to build a multi story, high density apartment complex in front of our property.
This was never the vision for that parcel.
And we would have never purchased our property if we knew that apartment complex would be going directly across the street.
Having another high density project would negatively impact our community cohesion.
Um, and our, our, you know, our neighborhood.
If you, I don't know if you've been there and had driven through there, but it is a cohesive neighborhood.
Um, and, um, the PUD was carefully designed and approved by the city with intense community input over five years.
The city needs to honor the original commitment.
The project already satisfied its affordable housing requirement by 25%.
Parker village already significantly contributes to Sacramento's housing needs with substantial,
a substantial affordable housing already built.
I strongly urge the planning commission to approve the developers application to build additional court homes,
identical to the, those already constructed around Crocker village.
Multi parcel.
The proposed homes maintain our communities,
rather residential integrity and match the high quality standards residents expect and appreciate.
Thank you.
Hi, my name is twin.
I live, um, at Giovanni street, 200 feet away from the multi parcel.
Um, I support Mr. Petrovic's proposals to develop the 30 single family court homes on the multi parcel.
Uh, as a Sacramento native who grew up in section eight housing, I put myself through college,
graduated from Davis, moved to downtown to start my career.
I lived here for six years.
Um, walk to the walk to work, gym restaurants, grocery stores, capital park.
My dream was to own a home in a neighborhood with similar walkability and vibrancy as downtown.
But, but like many of my generation millennials, it's been challenging in today's housing market.
Uh, we don't qualify for affordable housing, but I understand the need and Sacramento is paving the way.
I know there are three affordable housing projects within three miles of Crocker village.
One monarch project at 805 R street, 241 units on Broadway at 19th and Broadway, 140 units.
Sakura at 16th and T 134 units.
Uh, my generation has no option, but to rent in a market that continues to raise rent year after year,
a brand new, uh, market rate apartment on 14th, 14th and N the Cypress, um, have studios starting at $2,200.
One bedrooms for $2,400.
It, it just makes sense for us to buy.
My dream came true when I purchased my first home in Crocker village for its proximity to downtown,
walkability, the privacy that only single family homes can provide.
Uh, many of my neighbors are first time home buyers, uh, young professionals, young families,
couples planning to start their family.
Um, so I'm advocating for more single family homes because future generations deserve the opportunity to
plant roots here.
Um, with limited entry level housing in Curtis park, this proposal adds much needed supply to the
competitive area.
Uh, the proposal maximizes the available land, 15 homes per acre, acre without shared walls,
uh, meeting density requirements.
It offers privacy and a true sense of home ownership.
Um, features that are important to families seeking a safe and stable place to raise kids.
Um, not, not everyone wants to raise kid in a high density, high traffic environment.
It expands opportunities for the younger generation.
Sorry.
I'm nervous.
Younger generations to become long-term residents in a neighborhood they can grow with.
Uh, it's a community where neighbors know fur babies names before learning their owner's names.
Um, it meets the demand for housing while preserving the character and values of the community.
Uh, so please approve the proposal.
Um, for the 30 single.
Thank you for your comment.
Your time is now complete.
Our next speaker is G Ivanov followed by Louis Sumter.
Hi everyone.
My name is Gennady Ivanov and, um, I live, um, on Ronald Reagan Way.
And, um, unlike some of the people who live right next to Curtis Park, which is probably around seven minutes
away from where I live, or some people who live three blocks away, I live right next to it.
Um, I live right next to you.
And, um, I wanted to say that the reason why we bought house was the fact that we fell in love with the neighborhood.
And, uh, we wanted to invest in the community.
We wanted to build our life there and build our families.
And if you look at all of these people who are sitting with me, these are people who are invested in the community, are ready to invest more, are planning to stay there, and are planning to raise children.
And, um, I've heard a lot about, um, you know, growing population and high density requirements.
And I wanted to say that Mr. Petrovich, thanks to him, already, uh, addressed this concern twice.
Once he built the community and neighborhood in the area where it was a rail yard, it was dirt, it was nothing.
And, um, second, when we talk about high density units, um, he already addressed it by building seniors living community too.
And, um, I honestly don't understand what the concern is.
Um, we already met the requirements of high density units by 25% or 20% as it was mentioned.
Um, I just wanted to say please be fair to Mr. Petrovich.
Uh, please recognize all the effort that he already put in this development and in making our city better.
And, uh, be fair to residents who already spend their energy and time to find this beautiful place.
Who are ready to invest more their time and energy in this place.
Just please be fair to everyone.
Thank you.
Good evening, commissioners.
My name is Luis Sumter.
And about, uh, two years ago, I'm a residential realtor.
About two years ago, I was brought into this community to help sell the remaining homes with my partner, Michael Lonstead.
In those two years, we have sold nearly, uh, 60 homes.
And the reason that number is so important to you tonight, of those homes, we've sold two of them to investors.
I keep hearing about missing middle tonight.
I hear about, um, affordability.
But we, we tend to forget that affordability needs to go into the home ownership market as well.
Most of those homeowners that bought in our community were trading those high rent apartments for a mortgage.
They were first time homeowners.
Many of them told us they thought they would never own a home.
Call your realtor friends and ask them when the last time they spoke or represented a VA buyer.
VA buyers were pushed out of our community because of competition.
We have VA buyers that have bought in Curtis Park, Crocker Village.
It's amazing to see that kind of home ownership.
So as, as Mr. Petrovich mentioned earlier, these are, our price point is still within the conforming loan limits.
So Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac still insure on these loans.
People are getting into these homes for 15 to $20,000 down payment.
We're providing an opportunity that you just can't get in rentals, a rental situation.
We know that 40 years from now, if you're coming out of that rental, your life is no different than when you went in on day one.
But if you come out 40 years later, having bought that house, everything changes.
Probably most of you are homeowners and know about generational wealth.
It starts to change the trajectory of your family forever.
This is how you'll retire more comfortably.
This is how you'll probably put your kids or your grandkids through college.
We see grandparents and, and, and parents taking equity out of their home to help their children buy a home.
This is an opportunity to bring 70 new homes to homeownership opportunity.
It's the American dream.
I have nothing against rental, but we have to still start protecting homeownership.
It's how families change the trajectory.
It's how we leave our legacy to our family.
So I urge you please to vote in favor of the applicant's project as it's submitted.
And I thank you for your time.
Thank you both for your comments.
Our next speaker is Mary Ann G. followed by Candace D. Binsic.
Hi everyone.
My name is Mary Ann Giasi.
My day job, I take care of Northern California patients.
I try to save sight every day.
And the man that spoke with an accent, Gennady Ivanov, is my husband.
I'm Persian.
He's Ukrainian.
We live right across the multi-parcel.
And the reason we bought the neighborhood is quiet, walkable.
We moved from New York City.
We lived in Midtown for a year, paying very high rents.
$4,000 for a two-bedroom, two-bath.
It's like crazy.
So we were trying to find a neighborhood that was walkable for us.
And honestly, every week we went with our realtor from neighborhood to neighborhood.
And anywhere we wanted to put down anything, we had to pay exorbitant amounts of money.
And we had to pay a lot to even renovate it.
Crocker Village was the only neighborhood that was a community feeling.
It was safe.
It's close to amenities.
And we could picture, you know, building roots here.
We want to be part of the community, be part of Sacramento City.
And we pay high taxes.
And we want our taxes to go, you know, for the education, not in fighting city planning or issues.
The other issue is this is really going to impact that neighborhood.
Like, there's not enough parking space.
There's not enough city space.
That is going to become a throughput street.
I do want to mention something.
If our wonderful...
If you're able to show the picture that the lady in purple showed from Curtis Park,
the Curtis Park neighborhood has blocked off the throughput street that can go to Curtis Park.
They didn't even want traffic from Crocker Village to be hitting their beautiful picturesque Curtis Park neighborhood.
I want to mention the red stops.
We walk by that every day.
So when they stand up here and say, they're really for high density development there.
Have they thought about what the traffic is going to do to that area?
Have they thought about where the children are going to play on the street?
I just am surprised.
Would you please show that picture so they can see it?
I have it up here.
Yes.
That is the red.
The red.
We cannot...
Yes.
I live right there.
Please show it.
We cannot cross that street.
We cannot.
And then they're here talking about high density.
Where are the cars going to go?
That was a compromise because of the high amount of...
Is that your temperature?
Open it up.
Oh yes, please.
So we have to live across the high commercial so everybody can use the amenities, but they don't
want the traffic from Crocker Village to go to Curtis Park to not affect their property values.
We don't know what you're talking about.
Let's see show up.
So let's get some decorum here.
I'm sorry.
Let's give the speaker her time.
I'm just saying everybody can see it's not what is.
And about energy, we all have solar panels.
I walk in Curtis Park, I don't see much solar panels on their houses.
So I'm just saying, like seriously, let's just...
Thank you for your comment.
Your time is now complete.
Thank you for your comment.
Your time is now complete.
We just want a little bit of a homogenous neighborhood.
That's all we're asking.
I give her my three minutes.
And so if I could just remind the public, if we could just have some decorum and just give
time for the speaker to speak without, you know, interruptions, please.
Hi, my name is Candace Dubencic and I am a resident of Crocker Village.
I live very near the project we are discussing.
I agree with the approval of existing application to support the developer's proposal.
Crocker Village is a success story that Sacramento should be proud of.
Sacramento should want to support the completion of this project as envisioned.
Why?
The people that live here are a blend of backgrounds and life experiences.
Like me, some have lived in Sacramento all their lives.
Others have recently been transplanted here from the Bay Area, Southern California, or distant states.
We have a beautiful mix of young families, empty nesters, seniors, some of those seniors living in the senior
housing Mr. Petrovich built.
We have a kaleidoscope of different cultures, ethnicities, marital status, first-time homeowners,
old and young.
With all our differences, we have managed to create a new harmonious community.
The developer has made an example for responsible use of land management with high-density homes in a walkable
neighborhood with access to mass transit that can contribute to lowering roadway congestion in Sacramento's
now famed poor air quality, often caused by commuting from distant suburbs and different counties.
Many of our neighbors come from humble beginnings and have worked hard to realize their big dream of owning a home.
Neighbors I know chose Crocker Village because it provides for a variety of housing options for living near where they work or attend school.
We do not come from generational wealth and we are not newbies.
We are not opposed to multi-family buildings, apartments, or affordable housing.
We all acknowledge that we need more of that in the right places, but not in an over-concentrated manner that
destroys the character of the community that we have all built.
The housing crisis is not a crisis that belongs only to lower-income families.
The housing crisis also belongs to middle class.
Outside of old established neighborhoods, our downtown offers very little new-build,
single-family housing options for those who want to own their own home.
Crocker Village is the exception.
I appeal to the members of this committee, please allow Mr. Petrovich the opportunity
to build out our neighborhood according to his vision and the vision of the homeowners that invested into
into the neighborhood.
Can we please just achieve a sensible solution here, a solution preferred by the residents that live
live within the community itself, not in outlying communities?
Please allow us the respect of your consideration for what the community sees for its own future.
Thank you.
Thank you both for your comment.
Our next speaker is Mark Gregerson followed by Jill Julian.
Mark Gregerson.
Mark Gregerson.
Mark Gregerson.
I don't know if Mark's already gone or...
He's right behind you.
He's coming up.
Oh, sorry.
Oh, sorry.
It's okay.
Yeah.
Can you hear Mark?
Oh, we'll come over.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Oh, sorry.
Oh, sorry.
It's okay.
Yeah.
Can you hear Mark?
I am.
Oh, we'll come over.
Okay.
Thank you.
Well, I think we've established that.
My name is Mark.
My last name is Gregerson.
I'm a resident of...
A proud resident of Sacramento in particular.
I'm a proud resident of the development that we're talking about tonight.
I live a few hundred feet from one of the sites that is included on Crocker Drive.
I suffer from Parkinson's disease, so I'll just warn you that sometimes my speech is blurred.
Sometimes my hands tremor, and I just want to mention that to start with so that everything is okay.
As I said, I live in Crocker Village, and the reason I live in Crocker Village is last year, my doctor said that I had to make some life decisions.
I lived up in the foothills, and the doctor said I couldn't live alone anymore, and I negotiated to deal with him.
Part of the problem of living in the foothills was the incline of the roads, and the deal that I negotiated with him was to allow me to live in a community that is more level.
That was Crocker Village.
And you can walk to restaurants.
You can walk to grocery stores.
You can walk to other retail establishments, including dental care, and even a vet for my golden retriever journey.
Crocker Village was well-designed, clean, represented a very nice place to live.
I bought a home in Crocker Village because it was my strong belief that the build-out of the project would follow the same principles and standards that went into Crocker Village as we know it today.
And this is exactly what the developer is requesting to do in his application.
That is to give him a chance to complete the project and have it built to the same standards that exist.
We, as one of the other speakers mentioned, we're not opposed to multi-family buildings, apartments, or affordable housing.
We need more of that, but we need more of that in the right places.
And never is the development of that property be done in an over-concentrated manner that decimates the character of the community, which is a possibility if this staff's recommendation is approved.
So based on that, I thank you for your time and I would respectfully request that you support the applicant's petition for changes and deny.
Thank you for your comment. Your time is now up.
Good evening. Thank you for listening to all of this. My name is Jill Julian and I live on Crocker Drive.
I would implore you to keep our Crocker Village as a family development of single-family homes.
My son and I moved to this development when we were the only houses on the east side of Crocker Drive, known at that time as Curtis Park Village.
We moved with the vision of living in a community-based neighborhood.
Because of that, I felt safe letting my son take the bus home from his school at Alice Burney to Sac City College, crossing over the bridge, and then coming through the development.
When he did that, he got to know several friends. There were a lot of neighbors that would hang out.
So I always felt that it was good for him to be able to ride his bike or his scooter in our neighborhood.
And it's great having the shops across the street for the neighbors to gather for services and fellowship.
And please keep our neighborhood in a safe, small feeling, living there.
We love the family homes, single-family homes, so much that we asked my son's dad to move there, and he did.
So it is such a really nice family gathering. We really love it.
I'm amazed at how many first-time home buyers live there.
It is wonderful to see the multifamily housing projects being built on Broadway, but they anchor the communities.
They're not building up from the communities, like imposing upon the agents and stuff.
As a board member of the Crocker, of the Curtis Park Village HOA, our community has expressed often in meetings how we would like single-family homes to stay and to please vote for this application for the developer.
Thank you.
Thank you both for your comment.
Our next speaker is Alan Fong, followed by Garrett Chen.
Alan Fong, thank you for listening to all of us.
My name is Alan Fong, and I'm a resident of Crocker Village.
I strongly support Mr. Petrovich's vision of single-family homes.
I want to state that the residents on Curtis Park side are not Crocker Village residents, and most of them are not immediately impacted like we are in the development.
So please factor that as you hear all of the discussions that has been brought about.
I think that the residents那麼 long, I think the residents are not a part of this.
I think that the residents are not a part of this.
I think that the residents are not a part of this.
I think that the residents are not a part of this.
A structure such as a five- to eight-story structure would be a blight to our neighborhood, in my opinion.
And there is subjectivity in this.
However, I think most of the residents here would agree with me.
I know that there was some back politics of conflict between Mr. Petrovich and the residents.
Mr. Petrovich and the city in the past.
But do not penalize us residents of Crocker Village to get caught up in that crossfire.
I think that would be wrong.
So I implore planning to approve Mr. Petrovich's plan for single-family homes.
And the main reason why is because he's already compliant with the affordable housing density that was initially negotiated by he and multiple agencies.
So balance and diversity has already been achieved.
And another high-density project would bring probably higher crime, traffic, and loitering.
Which I don't know if you know, but if you ever go to the bridge at nighttime, it's been taken over by teenagers partying there.
It's not used as a pedestrian bridge at night.
It is not, in my opinion, it's not fair that planning is double-dipping and forcing another high-density project on something that the density has already been reached.
My neighbors and I will support single-family homes and Mr. Petrovich.
I believe that planning and even the people with opposing views have good intentions.
But they're saying that the path to hell is often paved with good intentions.
Again, I ask you not to make Crocker Village a place like hell.
Thank you very much.
Hello everyone. My name is Garrett and I live in Crocker Village.
Not to get confused with Curtis Park.
I want to make it clear that Crocker Village is its own neighborhood.
And the residents living there should have the most consideration when there are decisions being made to aim to reshape our neighborhood.
As you can see, I stand in solidarity with my fellow neighbors because we do not agree with the city staff's recommendation to deny development of a single-family homes on the parcel located on Omaha Beach Avenue.
Originally, Curtis Park Senior Apartments was supposed to be built on the parcel.
However, with amendments to the planned urban development, these apartments were relocated to the adjacent lot and it better integrates with the neighborhood.
And this development allowed Crocker Village to satisfy its affordable housing requirement by creating 90 units that house our senior citizens.
That in which some are here today to support our collective efforts.
This well thought out decision has been proven to be a great choice because our community has been recognized with national awards for its innovative land use, its high standards for design, and its impact on the environmental remediation.
By denying the developers proposed amendments, you're making a decision that not only go against the general, the original general plan, you're also making a decision to obscure why Crocker Village is a wonderful place to live.
It is important to note that we are not opposed to multifamily housing or affordable housing, but we do need more of it and we support all the efforts to expand access.
But what we can't support is a short-sighted planning decision that disrupts the fabric of our established community and undermine what a well-planned out project could look like.
A much better and more well thought out example is the on Broadway housing development.
It's a project that doesn't force density into the middle of an existing residential neighborhood.
Instead, it's strategically placed along mixed use and commercial buildings.
It's near transit and it's where higher density makes sense.
The commercial, that project enhances the surrounding area and reflects thoughtful planning, community context, and long-term viability.
The kind of smart growth we should all be striving for.
To finish off, I just want to say that everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
I just want to reiterate that Crocker Village is its own community and other voices outside of our communities are not ours.
Thank you.
Thank you both for your comments.
Our next speaker is Vincent Guan, followed by Wesley M.
Hello, can you hear me?
Good evening, Chairperson and members of the committee.
Thank you for the opportunity to speak.
My name is Vincent Guan and I live in Crocker Village, just steps from the site being considered today.
I moved here because I believe in what this neighborhood offered.
Peace, safety, and stability.
After growing up in affordable housing projects in San Francisco, that means everything to me.
Back then, I was scared to go outside at night.
I remember the bullet holes in the garage gate of my building.
I remember the nights I couldn't sleep because of gunshots and shouting right outside of my window.
That was my childhood.
And for years, I believed that kind of fear was normal.
Crocker Village changed that for me.
This is my first home.
A place where I can finally envision starting a family without the fear that used to be so normal for me.
It's more than an investment.
It's a symbol of life that I've fought hard to build in the future I'm just beginning.
Let me be clear.
I am not trying to stereotype or stigmatize anyone.
I know firsthand that not everyone who lives in affordable housing contributes to crime or instability.
But I also know from personal experience what can happen when cities make housing decisions without considering the full impact on the surrounding community.
And without investing in the support systems, those developments truly need to succeed.
I moved here understanding that this would be a neighborhood of single family homes.
That was the plan we were sold.
And now that promise is at risk of being undone, not because of the developer's proposal is illegal or insufficient.
It in fact meets the state and local laws, including residential density requirements.
That density is already satisfied in part by the senior apartments built nearby.
Yet here we are being asked to accept a shift back towards higher density multifamily housing.
And not because the community wants it, but because it's being pushed in a way that feels forced.
At the expense of neighborhood cohesion, property values, and residential trust.
How can we as homeowners trust that the future developer won't pursue large-scale affordable housing?
Because at this point, it's the only financially viable path.
Heavily supported by taxpayer subsidies and grants.
There already exists market rate apartments that sit vacant because my generation, a millennial, we want to own the American dream as well.
We are not opposing growth.
We are asking for the thoughtful, balanced growth that respects those of us who already live here.
The planning process should include the people who will be directly impacted, not those who live blocks and blocks away or who don't have to raise families beside the decisions being made.
Giving equal weight to those outside voices is like letting a stranger from another state decide who should move next door to me.
And that's not just fair, it's unjust.
Tonight I ask you, don't let this happen.
I approve the developer's proposal for single family homes.
Keep Crockert Village the community we believe in when we chose to make it our home.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Agreement.
Applause
Commissioners.
Thank you for listening to us tonight.
My name is Wesley Marr.
And I live with my wife, rainy.
At 2348 Jane King walk.
walk less than 100 yards from the multi-parcel and 300 yards from the
senior affordable housing. I've lived in Sacramento for 69 years. I've lived in
the pocket. I've lived in Land Park and Crocker Village by far is the best
neighborhood that I've lived in. We have an opportunity for 60 other families to
live in a house like ours. I think you should reconsider not approving Mr.
Petrovich's plan. I would love 60 other families to have an opportunity like
Rami and I have. Thank you. Thank you both for your comment. Our next speaker is Rami
Marr followed by Grant Gee.
I'm so emotional. Hello community. I've written out something and I share what everybody else
shares in Crocker Village. First I want to say I trust I trust Paul. I want to tell
you a story. I love Curtis Park too. I love where I live when I was a young girl. My
mother had a sister who lived on Castro Way. I'm a child of a field worker. We would
drive to Sacramento and visit my aunt on Castro Way, take our banana bikes and drive to Curtis
Park. We play all day. I love the neighborhood. I love the kids I met there. One of my good
friends was the people who owned Gunther. I cherish that neighborhood and then as I grew
up educated myself worked for 30 years for UC Davis and now I'm here in a neighborhood
that I love with my husband Wesley. I love the foundation. I love the community. I think
it would be a terrible idea to put in apartments and a community that's trying to thrive just
like Curtis Park has for years. I'm 55 now so I remember those great memories and that's what
we're trying to do is to build a beautiful community established next door to Curtis Park. We all feel
the same way about what type of community we want to live in. I just want to say thank you to Paul
Petrovich for building that dream for me as a little girl from Lodi wanting to live in Sacramento. Thank you.
I'm Grant Gardin. I came here for the red things but also to support Paul's plan. I just finished my
term probably serving on the board of our homeowners association at which time I got to talk to many of
the members of our community on a regular basis and I've not spoken to a single owner in our community
that supports any type of plan other than what Paul's proposing so I think that would be awesome.
I think that we already have the high density. We've already got the high density unit that is 40
foot taller than our homes and when this community first started my wife and I were living in Land Park.
A small home is an older home. It was built in 1942 and I remember when we first when we did finally move
I noticed how much lower my utility bill was because these houses are really really efficient so from
like a standpoint of that these are very very efficient my utility bill is like 20 bucks a month
so I don't think any of that is with any of the older homes that are in the area so I think that
that's one thing that's really good but I didn't want to move into this neighborhood initially because
I wanted to see how it would develop and how it would turn out because they originally just had that
side to have the brownstones. Then when they started building in all the other houses and it was coming
really to be a really nice neighborhood we jumped on and we moved in in November 2022
a brand new home it's been awesome I love the neighborhood we have a five-year-old son and he
has I'm not kidding you over 20 friends that are within two years of his age one of his best friends
lives next door to us and it's just it's a really really cool thing to watch these kids grow up together
and that's what I wanted out of neighborhood because you know I have a young family I want my kid my son and
if we have any more to be able to grow up with kids that they know in the neighborhood and I think
that having single-family homes nurtures that we know everybody in the neighborhood my son knows
every kid in the neighborhood they go to this huge park that we have and they play and it's awesome and
it's something we can do every day after school so I just want to try to keep the family thing going
and I think that single-family homes is what's going to do that and I think that's really what the essence
of this neighborhood is is it's a family community and there's so many young families there that I
would hate to see something like this get turned down to ruin that dream for other families thank you
thank you both for your comment our next speaker is John Headley followed by Ian Perkins Taylor
I am John Headley I live in Crocker Village every day I walk past the site of where this
what's called the multi-unit or multi-parcel would be so it does affect me however I can't think of
anything further that I could actually say that would add to this conversation because I think it's been
expressed with passion and feeling and I leave it there thank you
thank you commissioners my name is Ian Perkins Taylor I am a resident of the Curtis Park neighborhood
but not Crocker Village I think that some speakers before sort of addressed a lot of the points
that I had regarding the importance of multi-family housing particularly the great location that I
believe that this is for multi-family housing and that's why I support multi-family housing being built
in both sections of the project I just want to
say I'm kind of appalled by some of the threats and scare tactics I heard at the beginning of this
presentation in general but specifically regarding multi-family housing and I think this applies to both
market rate multi-family housing and to affordable multi-family housing and I'm saddened by the
characterization of people who live in multi-family housing they have been described as a shadow
as a blight and as demons who are going to create hell these are people too they could be part of this
community and they could be welcomed into the community they have kids and they have families
too and they want to thrive too so I say let's address the city's housing crisis and build an amazing
neighborhood by building multi-family housing thank you thank you both for your comment our next speaker
is John Malin followed by Jessamyn Lynn
thank you chair and members my name is John Malin I am very fortunate to be and have been a homeowner in
Curtis Park for the past seven years now
actually my realtor who got this Louise is right here and we're we're on different sides of this tonight but that's
okay because that's community and I think community is a big theme about a lot of what we're talking about here tonight so
I think I was a little taken aback and I hadn't really hadn't occurred to me I'd always really thought of
Crocker village as part of the Curtis Park neighborhood and I see that you know the folks who live there don't feel that way and you know while maybe some of them don't consider me their neighbor I certainly consider them my neighbor
so I just want to talk about where I live in Curtis Park because I think it's relevant you know I don't live near the park I don't live near the dreaded roadblock I live in an area called the Sutter Terrace addition
and I think it's relevant because many people have brought up the on Broadway housing project which is a very large low income housing project then many people have spoken very highly of you know my single family home is closer to that building to that development
then I think most of the homes in Crocker village are to this site my neighborhood on my block which is a very small block has single family homes it has a small apartment complex it has a number of businesses
it has a open place across this across the street where they are planning condos and I hope those go up very quickly it has a church where a lot of people who don't live in the neighborhood come every Sunday and they take up a lot of parking but
that's okay we make do because they're part of the community so having multifamily housing having multiple types of housing builds a strong community and it is not a deficit it is a feature
so I hope that I hope that Crocker village is able to continue to be successful part of that success I believe is having multifamily housing
it's part of the reason I'm sure why the plan for this community won all these awards that the applicant is so rightfully proud of
to remove it is to actually destroy the dream of what Crocker village was always supposed to be it was always supposed to include multifamily housing so I support the staff's recommendation to make sure that multifamily housing is preserved in Crocker village thank you
hi my name is Jessamyn let and I'm a Curtis Park resident I actually live right behind one of the right in front of perhaps one of the lots in question I may actually be the neighbor behind the house of one of the previous speakers
my backyard backs right up to the brownstones and I also was really surprised by this sort of fostered sense of division because I too consider the person who lives directly behind me my neighbor I actually don't know them but I do know most of the people on either side of them like this to me
this to me Crocker village is a part of the Curtis Park neighborhood and a really important part of it I moved to Sacramento in 2017 after attending UC Davis and spending a few years moving around for work
I never thought I would end up in Sacramento permanently but shortly after I moved here I realized I absolutely loved it one of the key things that stood out to me and that made the city so wonderful one of the things that when my friends asked me why are you still in Sacramento I'd say it is because of the
amazing range of people who all live right around me in the same neighborhood of course you get a community of young professionals like I was mixed with seniors with single people with young families with long-term residents when you have a starter home next to a duplex across the street from a handful of large houses and down the way from an apartment complex I loved being part of this diverse community and I still love to be a part of it
I think this is what can support people through all of their major life milestones like children and families but also like divorce empty nesters retirement
Crocker village has built a significant amount of large-scale single-family residences which I support because I want to live in a diverse neighborhood with single-family residents
I also want to live in a diverse neighborhood an important component of a diverse neighborhood is other kinds of housing types and so for me this multi-family housing is really about diversifying the type of neighborhood so that I can have the interesting engaging wonderful neighbors that make Sacramento such a unique beautiful and diverse community
additionally I think the R4 a zone is meant to per the zoning code accommodate higher density development in the central city along major commercial corridors and in areas near major institutions and public transit facilities this feels almost custom written for Crocker village with its central location nearby commercial uses and right across the pedestrian bridge from Sacramento City College and the light station
as a city this personally aligns with my goals and our goals as stated in the guiding vision of the city's general plan to be a national model of sustainable equitable growth and community development
near high high density near SAC near transit and SAC City College is sustainable denser and denser more affordable housing in a desirable neighborhood is equitable growth and putting people near transit is best practice for community
and the all-time-wide
thank you for your comment your time is now up our next speaker is Eric Dudley followed by Nancy McKeever
hello I'm Eric Dudley I'm also a resident of Curtis Park I live right behind the brownstones and yeah and I just want to say that
you know Sacramento and actually the I know the maybe the nation or the world as a whole is having a you know a housing affordability crisis right now you know we're looking at like not just rents but housing like purchasing houses is out of reach for most you know a huge portion of Americans right now and Sacramento is one of the most unaffordable housing markets in the country if you look at the average housing price like the
average price the new build is about six hundred and fifty thousand dollars and the median income for us medium household income is eighty eight thousand
you take that into a mortgage and you're looking at you're paying seventy-five percent of your take-home pay just to pay for your mortgage on a six hundred and fifty thousand dollar house with three percent down so you know like we're building all these houses but you know who can buy them like people who could buy houses other places we're not providing housing for people who are
who are lacking housing we're providing people for we're providing houses for people who want to upgrade but the houses they leave are not houses that other people can afford either so you know we just have this huge lack of starter homes of houses that people can buy I'm a huge proponent of home ownership but the model that we're pursuing right now is just not sustainable it's not something that addresses the needs of our community and so I propose that
you know that we follow the staff recommendation and encourage the development in Crocker Village to find solutions that meet the needs that we need right now thank you
chair young planning commissioners my name is Nancy McKeever I live in Curtis Park my comments are about the role of this decision in obtaining citywide house
housing goals the two parcels were discussing are both excellent and rare opportunities for high quality multifamily housing we know the two parcels are quarter mile from excellent transit access their shops parks and services nearby this combination of amenities allows residents to live a lower cost life with realistic options of owning one or maybe no car the multifamily housing with smaller sized units and shared infrastructure costs less to rent or own than single
family homes we know these things when you put the multifamily housing with
and the shops and services this results in a cost savings synergy for residents it's really important that's how you get the most out of multifamily development
it's the magic sauce you could call it for high quality realistic rental and ownership options again for downsize people who are downsizing civil servants first time homeowners all these people are
college students service workers are really needing this kind of living situation and these two parcels can offer exactly that in Sacramento needs more of it so there's something very unique about these parcels I kept thinking how much of this land is really available in Sacramento and the 2024 say COG land use database quantified the two acre parcels
the parcels the parcels that are two acres or larger of vacant land of any zoning throughout the entire city and assessed what portion of those parcels are a quarter mile from a light rail stop and what they found was the total of these parcels which are most similar to the two Curtis village or Crocker village parcels amounted to less than 1% it was actually 0.78% of undeveloped land city
citywide that's how unique this is and these are you know these parcels don't necessarily have the shopping and the parks and all the amenities they're just parcels of that size that are fake and a quarter mile from transit I believe the city cannot responsibly
down zone either of these parcels because they offer the best options available to the city to expand housing choice and affordability in a very high quality way in summary I ask you
please be patient maintain the adopted zoning on both parcels and wait for quality multifamily development proposals to come in thank you
thank you both for your comment our next speaker is Holy Father Aurora followed by Rachel Iskow
commissioners I am a good friend of Pope Leo the 14th he invited me to his inauguration and he told me two things he said first I always wanted to work for the Petrovich team
he went to Villanova got a math degree he said their planners are actually terrible at math and they're not maximizing the profit opportunity I'm like what are you talking Pope they are willing to sell their houses for 600,000 to 1.5 million dollars they've put banners out there he said yes my child but they'll only be able to fit 61 units and at an average of 1 million dollars each if they get that money they're leaving money on the table
he said if they followed the original PUD and maybe even exceeded it they could get 278 units of 900 square feet each I'm like ha ha ha I know where you're going with this Pope you want the city to allow them to build 100 feet high buildings their attorneys have warned me he's like you are so innocent my child he is fooling everyone in the red scarves we can fit all these units in just two stories
two stories same height as the neighboring homes the brownstones I said bro he said come on man respect I'm the Pope let's let's find something in the middle like missing middle you can say broski I'm like okay hey broski two stories how are you just gonna stuff every land square footage with housing no cars no street no green space he's like actually to get those 278 units in two stories we
we will maintain 60% lot coverage as required by zoning and that's gonna give us 80,000 square feet for cars and parking I'm like but nobody wants to buy condos and apartments nobody likes this single families at the hot single family homes are the hot shit he's like you're getting it wrong my child you're getting it wrong the world has changed we have an American Pope there was almost a Filipino Pope there was almost an African American Pope
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I said, Bob, you said you would tell me two things.
You told me only one.
What's the second one?
He bent forward, quietly, politely,
and whispered in my ear,
please do not go to Sun Spa on Fruit Ridge Road.
They will claim they're too busy for you.
I'm like, amen, Bob, amen.
Thank you.
Hard act to follow.
My name is Rachel Isco,
and I live in Curtis Park on 24th Street at 10th Avenue.
So I'm like a block from the flex parcel
and maybe two or three blocks
from the multifamily zone parcel.
And first, I just,
no one is saying that homeownership isn't a great thing.
I own my home.
I raise my kids in the home I own.
But I want us to take a moment here
and just remember the trajectory
that this city has been on
to come to terms with the fact
that for decades and decades,
we have zoned in an exclusionary matter,
neighborhood after neighborhood,
single family only,
or maybe in some low-income neighborhoods
and maybe in parts of downtown,
we allowed multifamily.
We are coming to terms with this now.
We are on a trajectory
to work toward more inclusive neighborhoods.
There is absolutely no reason
that we should allow single-family housing
on lots that are zoned
to allow multifamily by right.
Neither parcel should have single-family housing.
We need inclusive neighborhoods.
There are so many reasons people can't buy
a $650,000 to $1.2 million house.
They have the credit, good credit to rent,
but not enough to qualify for a mortgage.
They honestly can't save $20,000, $40,000, $60,000
for a down payment.
They've got other issues.
They owe back taxes.
There are so many reasons.
And now I want to talk in a really personal way
because this affects me personally.
I have a mid-20s daughter living with me.
She goes to City College.
She trains dogs.
She's majoring in criminal justice.
She wants to work in law enforcement.
And she wants to move out with her friend.
And I want an empty nest someday.
But she loves our neighborhood.
And like most of her generation,
she doesn't drive.
She doesn't want to drive.
She gets anxious.
She wants her mama close.
She loves our neighborhood.
There needs to be more multifamily housing.
And honestly, it breaks my heart
to read some of the comments
and hear some of these comments.
People, we've all lived at some point
in rental housing.
We have.
And it's, go,
there are so many stereotypes about rental.
Thank you for your comment.
Your time is now up.
Our next speaker is Jonathan Cook,
followed by Kathy C.
And Chair Kathy C.
will be our last speaker on this item.
Kathy C.
Kathy Cresswell.
Okay.
Yes.
Raises up a little bit.
I'll attempt to be pre-revoquent.
My name is Jonathan Cook.
I'm the Executive Director
of the Sacramento Housing Alliance.
We sent you two letters,
one in 2024
and one yesterday,
outlining our concerns in detail.
We are recommending the multifamily
for both of the parcels in question.
The average asking rent
in Sacramento County
is almost $1,800 a month.
Your average resident
has to be able to earn
close to $35 an hour
to be able to afford that.
They're not able to afford
these single-family homes.
And we need to create
a diversity of housing types
and uphold the responsibilities
that the city has
to its general plan
around land use,
around zoning
that the general plan updates
included last year,
and to affirmatively
further fair housing
for the city's existing codes
as well as for state law.
So with that,
I would encourage you
to maintain the multifamily
on both parcels.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good evening, commissioners.
I'm Kathy Cresswell,
and I'm a part
of the Sacramento Housing Alliance.
I'm also a resident
of District 7.
And I would encourage you,
I won't repeat all the things
that were in the Sacramento
Housing Alliance letters,
but there's really important issues
there regarding affirmatively
furthering fair housing compliance
with your housing elements
and other state laws.
So I urge you
to take a look at that.
I want to urge you
to support the denial
of the down zoning
on the multi-parcel
and oppose the approval
on the flex parcel.
Sacramento needs
more multifamily housing.
And this parcel,
at one point,
these parcels had,
the whole area had more
multifamily housing
and more density
in this area
that got decreased.
So it's unfathomable to me
that the city
would actually reduce
the only two parcels
that are left
in this area
for multifamily housing.
And it really creates,
multifamily housing
creates the best opportunity
for those who can't afford
right now
single-family
home ownership opportunities,
but it gives them
an opportunity
to live in the place
that we'd all want
to be able to live
that's vibrant,
that's close to transit
and shops.
And that does create
a sense of community.
I'm really saddened
by the biased
and negative descriptions
of people who live
in multifamily
and what multifamily housing is.
People who live
in multifamily housing
are there
and have families
and want to have
the same things
that people who live
in single-family housing do.
And in fact,
I've always said that
the best first-time
homebuyer program
is an affordable
rental unit
so that you can start
saving money
to be able
to afford those units.
But you can't do that
with the prices
of housing
right now
in Sacramento.
So, you know,
one,
we have to get over
believing that people
who live in multifamily housing
are not the same
as any of us
and who don't deserve
a safe,
great place to live
like everyone else.
I also just want to say
I would be very proud
to have my mother
live in any
of the multifamily
zoned parcels
in Crocker Village.
And I also want to say
that the interpretation
that the developer
is making
of SB30,
which goal
is to increase
opportunities
for affordable housing
and higher density housing
turns its whole goals
on its head
and makes no sense
in terms of the overall
strategy
of SB330.
So,
please make sure
we...
Thank you for your comment.
Your time is now up.
Chair,
I have no more speaker slips
on this item.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you, everyone.
I think I did my math
pretty well.
It's almost 845.
Thank you, everyone,
for your comments.
I appreciate all the insight
everyone provided.
We need to vote
to continue...
Wait, we're not at...
Not yet.
Not yet.
Yeah, I would say 915.
Yeah, we're good on time,
actually.
Yeah, let's take a break,
if that would be good.
Can we call for, what,
a 10-minute break?
10-minute break?
Okay.
Thank you.
Chair, staff,
straight when you are.
Thank you.
Just a quick note,
I want to apologize
for the lack of AC.
So it is hot in here.
So we are working
on trying to figure out
how to cool down.
So I appreciate
your patience on this.
So that said,
let's move on
with the agenda.
Do we have any questions
or comments
from the dais
for the applicant
or staff?
Thank you.
Thank you.
No questions.
Wow.
Commissioner Caden.
Thank you, Chair,
and I'll be the first one to go
if no one wants to.
I just want to thank everybody
for coming out.
I mean, this has been,
I think, you know,
as Commissioner Lamas
mentioned,
probably the fullest room
that we've had
in a couple years.
So it's always really,
really important
and helpful
to kind of hear
from the community,
and I think we've got
a really robust discussion tonight.
You know,
I'm going to sort of
keep my comments
mostly oriented
around the policy goals
specifically,
and, you know,
I think sometimes,
you know,
we're sort of
in this position.
Oh, are we,
did you want to?
Can we get rebuttal?
Are we going into?
You'll have a chance
to respond.
I'm giving you a chance,
but at this stage,
it's really more
for the dais to.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean,
I think, you know,
in this position, right,
we're frequently needing
to kind of weigh
the benefits of,
you know,
a project that's real today
or, you know,
I think holding out,
I guess,
for a project
that's more in line
with our policy goals later.
And I think reasonable people
can disagree about
where that line is.
And I think, you know,
frequently I find myself
more inclined
to kind of take
the bird in the hand.
But I think, you know,
in this situation,
these projects
they're just a little bit
beyond that line for me.
These are sites
that I'm struggling
to find
the policy reason
why this body
should take
a discretionary action
to change
what is allowed
to accommodate,
you know,
single-family homes
when basically
every policy category,
I guess,
we care about
in the general plan
seems to suggest
that this should be
a denser product type.
So we just talked
very recently,
we had our general plan
and climate action plan,
annual progress reports.
We talked about how,
you know,
we need to,
you know,
dramatically increase
our multifamily housing
production
in corridors and centers.
You know,
we need to reduce
our rent burden.
We need to increase
our transit mode share.
These are all things
that are really challenging
to do
with single-family homes
and particularly
with single-family homes
that are on
these sort of
blank slate sites
that are right next
to light rail stations.
And I think this was
brought up
in some of the letters
and comments,
but it's just really,
really rare
to have these
two-acre parcels
that are developable
that are right next
to light rail
in these high-demand
neighborhoods.
They virtually
don't exist.
If there was ever
a place for
multifamily housing
from a policy perspective,
this is it.
And then you add in
this layer that is,
you know,
this is a high-opportunity
neighborhood.
This has an incredible park,
right,
where it's just
immediately north
of a shopping center.
You know,
you're in biking distance
of the center
of a two-and-a-half
million-person region
and, you know,
all of the economic
and employment opportunities
that that provides.
You know,
this is exactly
what we mean
when we say
we have a general plan goal
to affirmatively
further fair housing.
You know,
this is the type
of neighborhood
that, you know,
if you are lucky enough
to grow up in,
you are going to maximize
your chance of success,
right?
And that's what
affirmatively further housing
is all about.
It's about ensuring
that we're kind of creating
this opportunity
for all economic segments
of the community,
not just people
who can afford
that kind of sizable
down payment,
you know,
or a mortgage
with today's rates.
I mean,
I understand you can put
3% down,
but when you're putting
3% down
on a $750,000 house,
we're talking $5,300
a month
with today's rates
and that's,
I mean,
that's a huge stretch,
right?
That's not,
I would not characterize
that as,
you know,
available for middle
income residents,
you know,
at least right now
and I understand
that that can change
with rates
but that's just,
that's the conditions
that we have right now.
So, you know,
what does fair housing
mean in practice to me?
It means we need
housing choices
that are beyond
single family homes
in these neighborhoods.
You know,
90% of residential land
in this region's
high opportunity neighborhoods
are designated
single family.
So, you know,
when we have
opportunities like this
to kind of introduce
more affordable
housing types,
you know,
I think it's really
important to take them.
So, you know,
just on kind of
the policy merits alone,
I'm going to be supporting
staff's recommendation
tonight to deny
the proposed change
to the multifamily housing
designated site.
On the flex site,
you know,
virtually everything
that I just said
on the policy side
applies to both
of these sites,
of course.
I think that should
be clear, right?
Both are within
a half mile of transit.
They're both in a high
opportunity neighborhood.
You know,
the half mile of transit,
that's the buffer
that we discussed
as a commission
quite a bit
as part of the general
plan update
where we're trying
to encourage
transit-oriented
development, right?
We're trying,
we have an explicit
policy,
LUP 4.1
to kind of,
you know,
really prioritize
higher densities
and intensities
within that buffer.
So,
if this was
a purely
policy conversation,
my inclination
would be to
explore denying
the proposals
on both sides.
This is not
a purely
policy conversation.
Obviously,
this is partly
a legal one.
And I understand
that the underlying
zoning and PUD standards
are different
between these two sites.
And that's kind of
impacting what we can
and what we can't
deny or approve
in this case
under the Housing
Accountability Act.
And so,
I'm wondering if,
you know,
I think it was covered
a little bit
in the front end
of the staff presentation,
but I'm just wondering
if staff or maybe
council can kind of
just reiterate
the legal distinction
here between the two
sites and,
you know,
what discretion
the commission has
or doesn't have
tonight,
particularly on the
flex parcel.
I can start.
You can jump in.
So,
the flex parcel,
the underlying zoning
allows single unit homes
with a conditional use permit.
And for that reason,
in order to deny
the conditional,
in order to deny
single unit homes
on that site,
you'd have to make
some specific findings
under the Housing
Accountability Act,
specifically that
allowing the project
would have a specific
adverse impact
to public health
and safety.
And there's a very
specific definition
of what a specific
adverse impact is,
and we don't get
a lot of discretion
on that.
So,
it's just different
because of the
underlying zoning
and the fact
that single unit
homes are permitted
with a CUP
on that site.
on that site.
And so,
there hasn't really been
any case law
or anything like that
where that health
and safety provision
has been kind of
expanded to more
policy reasons?
It's like a very,
like,
can you talk more
about how specific
that is?
So,
I'll just read
what it says.
It's a specific
adverse impact
means a significant,
quantifiable,
direct,
and unavoidable impact
based on objective,
identifiable,
identified,
written public health
and safety standards,
policies,
or conditions
as they existed
on the date
the application
was deemed complete.
So,
it's a pretty
narrow category
of reasons
that you can
deny the project.
Got it.
And,
you know,
I wanted to just,
I guess,
introduce into this
conversation,
there's some other
parts of state law,
some of which
were referenced tonight,
that kind of
seem to sort of
run counter
to this provision
in this situation
that I,
you know,
I at least want to
explore and maybe
hear,
I think,
from council about,
like,
to what extent
there's a potential
issue there
or if there's an impact
on the flex parcel decision.
So,
the first one
was brought up
a few times
and was,
you know,
detailed in the SHA letter
and that's
Affirmatively Furthering
Fair Housing.
There's a statutory
obligation under
AB 686
to do that
and that's something
that we,
you know,
have policy language
that we committed to
in our housing element
and I'm just wondering
if,
you know,
does that,
does this decision
approve,
you know,
the conditional use permit
run afoul of that
in any way
or how do you see
those two interacting?
Yeah,
I don't,
I think there's not
a lot of clear case law
on what is
and what is not
violating the obligation
to Affirmatively
Further Fair Housing.
I think that
generally
because
single unit homes
are permitted
on the site
with a CUP,
I don't think
that a court
would find that
permitting that
violates the obligation
to Affirmatively
Further Fair Housing
but I also
don't think
the case law
is particularly
clear on it.
I think
the case,
the cases
that I'm familiar
with
or the case
that I'm familiar
with
is,
talks about
more of like
program level stuff
like the housing element
that doesn't comply
with state standards.
So I'm not,
I hope that helps.
Okay,
yeah,
no,
that is helpful.
And then
just the second one
that I wanted
to just bring up,
you know,
we've been talking
a lot about
SB 330 tonight.
But that,
so that law
also precludes
jurisdictions
from down zoning
which is
in the bill
defined as
decreasing the intensity
of residential uses,
you know,
unless you,
you know,
make it up elsewhere
through,
you know,
no net loss.
So,
you know,
given that
the underlining
zoning on the flex site
allows multifamily
by right
but requires
a discretionary permit,
you know,
or action
to allow
single family,
does that discretionary
action constitute
a down zoning?
Are we,
you know,
is there any conflict there?
I don't think
the case law
is clear on that.
I think it's
unlikely
given that
the zoning code
contemplates
that it may happen
with the issuance
of a CUP.
Okay.
So,
I mean,
just a couple
last notes
before I yield
my time.
I think,
you know,
it is unfortunate
to me
that we,
this law
is being used
to potentially
allow for less housing
when the entire
point of that
bill
was to
crack down
on cities
that were arbitrarily
reducing how much
housing can be built,
right?
And so,
it does feel
a little bit
twisted there.
You know,
that said,
I think we do
have a responsibility
as a commission
to not take
an action tonight
that would lead
to a losing lawsuit.
And it does seem
as though denying
that flex parcel
would,
you know,
potentially do that.
So,
I guess one last
comment for me.
I guess
this is maybe
just a bookmark
for later
for planning staff,
but,
you know,
perhaps this is
something we can address
in the zoning code update
as we're looking at this,
but I'm not sure
it even really makes sense
to have
a conditional use
permit process
that requires
a discretionary vote
at commission
if we don't actually
have discretion,
you know,
to say no,
right?
So,
perhaps cases like these
should either have,
you know,
a clear objective standard
that's precluding that use
or we just allow that use
by right.
So,
to kind of avoid
these sort of conflicts.
So,
all of that said,
you know,
I won't go to motions.
Yeah,
I want to hear from
my other commissioners
so I'll yield my time.
Thank you.
I was just sort of
interested how we arrived.
I think there's been
some contention
on a little bit
about the history
of how we arrived
at
the parameters
around the flex site
and then the multi-site.
So,
for the flex site,
there's an assertion
by the applicant
that the single family
product
or that design
should have been
there by right
but that there was
some sort of
oversight
or whatnot
back when
this was agreed upon.
Was it 2016
or 2020?
2020
and so,
could you maybe
just from
the planning staff's
perspective,
like,
kind of tell us
kind of how
we arrived
at that
point?
So,
the flex site
was initially
created in recognition
that
conditions could change
and so it could
have been
commercial
or residential
and it required
a decision
by city council
to determine
if it would,
its ultimate use
and the applicant
applied,
I believe it was
2023,
for residential
use of the site
which was
supported by staff
and approved
by council
and
at that time
there was,
the applicant
was notified
that specifically
single unit dwellings
would require
a conditional
use permit
that was
communicated
via email,
it was communicated
at the Planning
and Design
Commission hearing
so,
this was
something that
has been knowledge
for at least
multiple years.
Yeah.
And then for
the multifamily
site,
the multiparcel
site,
what was the
history behind,
what was intended
for that
specific parcel
and can you
kind of speak
to that as well?
Yeah,
since the
original adoption
of the PUD
in 2010,
it was,
it has been
designated
multifamily.
That has never
changed.
Or,
excuse me,
this specific
site.
So,
multifamily
designation in
general has
been a part
of the PUD
since 2010.
2010.
And in 2016,
there was a change,
an amendment to
the PD schematic
plan that changed
the acreage and
the location.
it was presented
in the,
in the staff
report,
I believe,
as attachment
seven.
And you can
see specifically
how the
multifamily
designation
applies in terms
of the land
that it,
the parameters
of the land
there.
So,
it went from
approximately
seven acres
in 2010
originally.
And that was
excluding the
senior housing
site.
And currently,
it was changed.
So,
in 2016,
it was changed
to about
the current,
the current
flex site,
which is the
2.3 acres.
Yeah,
wait.
Thank you.
Yeah,
I'm interested
to just hear
more from the
commission.
I think,
just so that,
you know,
what I'm trying
to do is just
try to establish
as,
try to be as
factual as
possible.
I want the
general public
to also be
aware of the
history behind
it.
And I know
there may be
some differences,
so,
but we're going
to try our
best to kind
of find that
common history.
I will say
that,
you know,
I do want
to address
like,
I do want
to address
everybody's
intentions here.
Like,
I see two
camps,
right?
And both
camps are
coming from
good intentions.
I think the
applicant has
the intention
of building a
very beautiful
community.
He has a
very,
he has
site control,
right?
And so,
he wants to
build it a
certain way.
And even
though maybe
there was an
understanding
six,
ten years ago,
whatever,
like,
things are
different now.
And he,
I think he
wants to do
something different.
And so,
I think that
that's why
we're here,
right?
And I think
we're trying to
honor his
wishes to
be heard.
And I think
as a community,
we are also
given that
opportunity to
be able to
speak to that
desire.
and I also
appreciate all
the homeowners
from Crocker
Village and
their desires
to have a
safe community,
one that they
can be proud
of.
And that is
what you are
fighting for.
And so,
I hear that
and I appreciate
the goodness
that comes
from that.
I also,
at the same
time,
wanted to
acknowledge
those who
are advocating
for other
families who
may not be
able to
afford a
single-family
home and
just trying
to create
a place
where they
may have
a home
that they
can afford
and raise
their family.
And so,
I just want
to speak to
that because
I think
that we,
because it
is getting
hot here,
right?
We have a
tendency to
try to
demonize one
another.
And I just
want,
the way I'm
seeing this,
I see people
of good heart
and good nature
who are just
trying to
figure out
how to do
the best thing.
And so,
they may appear
competing,
but my
goal is to
see if we
can find a
solution together
as a
community,
right?
Sacramento
community that
will work
out for
everybody.
With that,
I'll pass
it on.
Vice
Chair Chase.
Thank you,
Chair.
First of all,
I want to
also echo
the appreciation
of everyone
that's turned
out from
both
Crocker Village
and Curtis
Park.
I lived in
Curtis Park
for some time
and it's a
wonderful area.
This was an
incredible,
and I've got to
give incredible
credit to Paul
for developing
just a superbly
high-quality
project here.
It's absolutely
wonderful.
And I know
it wasn't easy.
We also know
it wasn't always
easy to get
that success,
but it's turned
out extremely
well.
I'm torn
in terms of
the density.
This day and
age with our
needs, it's
very difficult
for me to
support down
zoning in
general,
especially near
the light rail,
public
transportation.
I'm not ready
to make a
motion, but I
just have to
express that
feeling.
I do find
that from
having heard
the discussions
on the
legality of
the flex
parcel and
trying to
oppose his
developer's
proposal there.
I see
difficulties in
that.
So I'm
kind of on
the fence on
that one.
Not so much
on the fence.
I think I
probably will
favor the
flex parcel
as proposed.
The one that
has me scratching
my head is
certainly the
multi-parcel.
Spending more
time driving
around today,
looking at the
scale of the
projects and
the housing in
the area.
And as I
say, it's a
great project.
I tend to
think that a
multi-family,
and let's
forget about
the 100
foot height
thing.
That's just
not going to
happen.
But a
multi-family
development there
could be
appropriate.
I'm reminded
after I moved
here about 30
years ago from
L.A.
as an architect
working on a
project, I was
going before the
board of
supervisors in
the county at
that time.
And a
project in
front of me
was an
apartment complex.
At that
time, I
think it
was in
Elk Grove.
It was
before they
were actually
an incorporated
area.
And it was
tremendous.
The chambers
were filled
with opposition
to a
multi-family
apartment complex
there.
Oh, my God,
it's going to
kill our
property values.
And one of
the supervisors,
to his credit,
asked the
whole piece,
I'd like to
see a raise
of hands of
how many
folks in
here came
out of
their high
school,
college,
you know,
whatever,
and immediately
moved into
a single-family
house without
ever living in
rental property.
Probably two or
three hands out
of hundreds
of people in
there.
It's happened.
I mean,
that's the way
we all kind
of reached the
point of owning
a house.
So I think
having multi-family,
the myth of
destruction of
property values
and everything,
just doesn't
exist.
If that's the
way it goes,
I think that
could be,
you know,
to me,
multi-family
on the
multi-parcel
could be a
successful direction
to go here
as we move
forward.
But again,
I'm looking
forward, I
think,
to hearing more
of my colleagues
comments.
I yield.
Thank you,
Chair.
Just,
I would,
I've got some
comments that I'd
like to make,
but before I make
my comments,
I was just
wondering if we
could let the
applicant speak
and get his
thoughts,
because I would
like to get his
thoughts before I
give mine,
and then if we
could close the
public comment,
period,
and...
I think public
comment has
closed.
I mean,
everyone's given
their public
comments,
so if there,
if anything,
like if there
was a question
that I had
that maybe
someone in the
public could
answer,
and I requested
it,
I could do that.
You could bring
them back up.
But if we could
allow them to
speak real quick,
and then we can
finish that part
out.
What is it
specifically that
you would like to...
No, just if they
have anything
that's been...
They would like
to make a rebuttal.
I would like to
give them that
opportunity,
and then we can
go through and
then finish out
and get a motion
and move on.
Is that what you
would like to do
at this time,
or do you want to...
Okay, if you
want to do it now,
that's fine.
Okay.
Thank you,
Chair.
Thank you,
members of the
Commission.
Daniel Friedman,
Jeffrey Mangels,
Butler Mitchell,
on behalf of the
applicant.
There's a lot to
cover.
I'm going to
try and hit the
highlights.
First off, I think
there's a couple
misconceptions that I
do think really need
to be cleared up.
I've heard a lot of
things about what's
competing here,
multifamily versus
single family, and
I've heard a lot of
descriptions about
what that means.
I've heard comments
that multifamily is
affordable.
I've heard comments
that multifamily is
higher density.
I've heard comments
that it will provide
access to certain
different types of
people.
I want to be clear
about what the zoning
code says the
difference is.
It's whether walls
touch.
That's the only
difference.
There's very expensive
multifamily.
You could do a
three-unit
multifamily project on
this site.
You could do a 30-unit
single-family project
on this site.
I'm talking about the
multi-site.
So none of this really
makes sense to me, to
be frank.
I don't...
I've heard comments
that, and I take
offense to this, that
we're using the HAA in
a way that it wasn't
intended to be used.
So what was the HAA
intended to do?
It was intended to
stop cities from
using subjective
standards or
inconsistencies in
their own laws to
stop developers from
building housing.
That's what's
happening here.
And I find it very
curious that there
are folks who don't
live in the community
who are demanding
multifamily,
multifamily, when
this is proposing
30 homes for
families.
So you have an
applicant proposing
a project, and I
keep hearing, what
about the
multifamily?
Well, okay, well, I
don't know what that
means.
So if all the homes
attached walls, is
everyone happy?
So 31 units where
they all touch each
other at one point?
I don't think that's
what this is about.
In my mind, this
concept that, oh, you
should hold out for
something else?
Zoning is not a
project.
So because you have a
certain amount of
units you think you
might be able to get
out of this, there's no
guarantee that's coming.
That's not a project.
You have a project.
Homes proposed to be
built.
I hear housing advocates
saying, deny it.
I just don't get it.
I just don't get it.
I posed a question
which has not been
answered.
If the applicant
proposed junior ADUs
in these single-family
homes, would that
resolve the conflict?
And it's a serious
question.
Why is it a serious
question?
First, junior ADUs,
to my knowledge at the
moment, count towards
arena allocations.
Did the best I could to
look it up quickly, but
I'm almost positive.
Secondly, the California
government code defines
multifamily as housing
developments with two
units.
So, I don't know if my
client will do it, to be
frank, I don't know.
But I do like solving
problems, and to be
honest, I don't like
lawsuits if I can avoid
them.
I think it's a good
solution, and I don't
know why no one's taking
me up on it.
So, that's my proposal.
I do think this is not
about multifamily versus
single-family.
I think that is an
excuse being used to deny
the project.
Because, again, once you
take away the ideas of
what we're talking about
and look into the actual
fundamental issue, whether
the buildings touch, what
we're talking about is
whether to allow attached
or detached housing.
That's it.
That's the only issue.
So, a lot of people like
detached housing because it
encourages pride of
ownership and longevity in
communities.
There's a variety of
reasons people like
detached housing types.
But I just, in my mind,
the folks coming up here
insisting on multifamily,
not all of them, but I
think a lot of them are
doing that, so you deny
housing.
I'll allow my client.
I know he has a few items
to address, but legally
speaking, I believe that
the city would be on very
weak ground.
I don't know.
I think it's close to 9.30.
Yeah.
Mr. Petrovic, since it's
almost 9.30, I'd like to
ask the dais if we can
continue past 9.30 before.
So, yes?
Oh, okay.
It's going to depend on how
long he's done.
No, no, no, no.
I want to just get it done
now.
So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to give him his time
without feeling we have to
rush, like, within the next
five minutes.
So, I need to, we need to
do a vote.
Is that correct?
Okay.
So, can I get a motion to
extend the meeting past 9.30
and then we'll check back in
at 10.30 to see?
Is that fair?
So, can I get a motion for
going past 9.30?
Okay.
Motion from Commissioner
Hernandez and then Vice
Chair Chase.
I actually have a question,
but I will second the motion
too.
Vice Chair seconds.
Thank you.
If we're on the motion,
does that mean continue
this item?
No, it's not to continue
this item.
It's to extend our meeting
past 9.30.
The additional items are
still on the calendar.
Yep.
Still on the calendar.
Thank you.
Yep.
All right.
Clerk, roll call, please.
Thank you, Chair.
Commissioner, please unmute
Commissioner Lee.
Aye.
Commissioner Lamas.
Aye.
Commissioner Naibo.
Aye.
Commissioner Caden.
Aye.
Commissioner Hernandez.
Aye.
Commissioner Macias-Reed is
absent.
Commissioner Ortiz.
Aye.
Commissioner Blunt.
Aye.
Vice Chair Chase.
Aye.
Commissioner Rischke.
Aye.
Commissioner Thompson is
absent.
And Chair Young.
Aye.
Thank you.
And the motion passes.
All right.
Thank you.
You have the floor, Mr. Petrovich.
Thank you.
I'll attempt to sum up,
but there is so much
misinformation and past
history that was blatantly
incorrect.
It was crazy.
I think to further Mr. Freeman's
comments, this really is about
detached or not.
And theoretically, I think I could
build two mansions as long as they
touched.
That's it.
For density.
It's not going to happen.
Just the same way that multifamily
market rate housing that hasn't
been built in five years in this
community is never going to get
built here.
Not in my lifetime.
That is why the choice tonight, as I
said previously, is no housing or
housing.
Some of you know me.
Some of you don't.
Some of you have heard of me.
Some of you haven't.
I'll tell you one thing.
Whatever I say, I do.
If this thing is denied, one of two
things is going to happen.
Either I'm going to cut this man
loose to do what he needs to do.
That's not a threat.
That's just a fact of life.
Or I deed the property.
Because there's no market for
market rate housing.
Every single project you see built
right now that this side of the room
pointed to are affordable housing
projects.
3,300 units in a five mile radius of
this project have been approved as
affordable housing.
300 have been approved for market rate and
they haven't been built.
There's a reason.
The rents have to be $5,000 based on
today's interest rates, material and
labor.
You're not accomplishing anything by
holding out for multifamily here.
It's gone.
It's not happening.
So I want to provide evidence of why and
how I contend that I met the multifamily
component by moving it to the flex zone.
The flex zone to zone commercial.
If I had not met my multi or wasn't allowed to meet my
multi or wasn't asked to meet my multi requirement,
it wouldn't have gone to the shopping center's own land.
I'd still be stuck with the multi parcel.
The hard evidence that I satisfied it is that I converted commercial land to
handle it.
That wasn't for my health.
That wasn't for me to make more money.
That was for a better plan.
Another big misrepresentation was that this is a transit oriented
development.
This is not a TOD.
Never has been.
Never was.
And the funding for that bridge was illegally done by SACOG by claiming it
was a TOD.
Illegally.
Illegally.
SACOG said this is a TOD.
That bridge got funded under false lies and fraudulent representation to the
federal government.
The average household income in Curtis Park is $161,920.
The average household income in Crocker village is $86,000.
Half.
Does anybody here think that I haven't made a compelling reason by building this
project out so that it's more affordable to people to own houses?
What more evidence do you need?
There's two homes for sale in Curtis Park right now.
One's at 1.3 million and 1.6 million.
And they rarely come up for sale.
Does that sound affordable?
There's not one affordable housing complex or unit in all of Curtis Park.
There is here.
We met that standard.
Access between the neighborhoods.
Oh, my God.
What a huge issue this was.
Curtis Park residents demanded seven traffic engineers scope the traffic study for the entire
project so that yet another eighth traffic engineer could do the report to make sure their
community was not going to be burdened by the traffic generated from Crocker village.
It's absurd.
The result and what was predicted is the traffic was going to go from level B and C in their
neighborhood down to A because Crocker village was going to take the traffic down Crocker
Drive.
It's exactly what happened.
But I offered the community in 230 community meetings.
Do you want me to connect the neighborhoods or separate them?
Do you want the streets to end or connect?
I made the exact comment.
I have no dog in this fight.
And mind you, there are no Crocker village residents handy at the time.
They didn't exist.
And they insisted that 10th be closed to traffic.
Insisted.
And most of them, half of them didn't want Donner or Fifth to connect.
So this idea that they're all for multifamily and everything, it doesn't hold water.
I want to reiterate, wanting it to happen, thinking it'll happen by zoning is a complete
and total fallacy.
I appraise the property.
I take the immediate tax benefit.
I move on.
No multifamily happens.
On the other hand, I build 30 homes.
Now, the misconception that I believe Commissioner Caden brought up is that, well, we're downzoning
and it doesn't fit.
SB 330 specifically says you can't go below 15 units to the acre.
It's to keep cities from taking zoning of 15 to the acre and making it three or five or seven.
Once you hit 15, you are now in a ministerial approval process for SB 330.
That is why I designed it at 15 units to the acre.
It meets SB 330.
It's not being weaponized.
I'm meeting the intent of the law.
Period.
Period.
So where are affordable housing units happening?
No market rate housing is being built in the form of apartments.
Well, if you read the paper and know what you guys have approved,
86 units on our street.
On the corridor.
I built the Safeway there.
I still own it.
That's how it scored points.
That's how it was approved.
Part of it.
I built housing on top of retail there.
24 years ago.
The next one, J Street.
Right in the middle of a commercial corridor.
Not in the middle of a neighborhood.
That's where the affordable housing belongs.
The next one.
21st and Broadway.
Surrounded by commercial, not homes.
How in the world can you equate affordable housing at any level going more going in this community
when we're already satisfied it at 20%, not 15%?
My closing comment to you.
And some people have tried to demonize me.
You know, there's an old thing called ad hominem attacks.
And there was an old political strategist called Saul Alinsky.
And Saul Alinsky developed the strategy,
if you don't have the facts on your side, attack the person.
Calling me names, saying that I'm a bully, saying that I'm threatening,
when all I'm doing is passionately expressing the history and the facts that exist,
is not that.
I'm trying to inform you as decision makers that the project meets your general plan,
which overrides the PUD, period.
I'm not saying you can't deny it.
You can deny it.
But you walk right into a bad, bad, bad situation.
And you also can't split my application.
You can't do it.
It's illegal.
It's one application.
You can't say yes.
It'd be like the Cottonwood Project that came before you earlier.
Oh, we're going to improve half of it with the pool and four buildings.
But the other half, not so much.
We're going to make that be single family,
just like the one woman that was saying it should be single family.
That's akin to what's in front of you today.
You can't do that.
So I urge you,
deny my entire application.
Or,
follow SB 330,
recognize that I meet 15 units to the acre,
affirm that the general plan zoning of R4A,
which allows detached single family homes,
overrides everything,
which it does,
and ask staff to come back for conditions of approval
so that you can vote on it.
Any other move
is a bad move.
And I don't want the city to go there.
I don't want to go there.
I want to build homes.
I want to add to this community.
I already satisfied the multi-requirement.
One piece of history you ought to know.
There was a whole lot more multifamily zoned here.
Why did that change?
That's been a question.
Why?
How did that change in 2016?
The reason it changed is
the detention basin
originally was estimated to be 1.2 acres.
After further drainage studies were performed
over a five-year period,
it was determined
that 500,000 cubic feet of water
in a 10-year rain event
was coming from Curtis Park
onto Crocker Village.
And it was incumbent upon me
as the developer of late
to solve that.
And so 1.2-acre detention basin,
which I was going to turn into an amphitheater,
that was my original thought and dream
because they're never wet,
I had to build a six-acre detention basin
with straight-down walls,
which wiped out
most of that multifamily.
And that multifamily,
per the original approval,
was garden-style apartments
at two stories.
Period.
Like we all see
in the older parts of our region.
That became passe.
Now, apartments,
market rate,
aren't being built.
So I'm not waiting around.
I'll take the tax write-off
and move on
because, quite frankly,
I can't take this anymore.
I've been trying to convince bodies like you
with people
that make more money
than anybody in this city
fighting me
to try to provide homes
for people like this
to be first-time owners.
If you can't agree
with my vision,
I will take that
and do what I need to.
Deny it all
or ask staff to come back
for an approval.
But that's
your only two choices here.
Thank you for your comments.
He needs to say one more point.
We gotta really try to move
this evening along.
So you got one minute.
30 seconds.
One minute.
30 seconds.
I just want to be clear.
The contention came out
that this was a down zoning.
This is not a down zoning.
No densities are changing.
I address that with respect
of what really is before you
is attached or detached.
Finally,
to the extent,
I just want to raise,
I know certain commissioners
recuse themselves.
For those who are here
who have prejudged this case,
they would also have
to recuse themselves.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
Let's keep moving on.
Vice Chair Chase.
Thank you, Chair.
Actually,
a question for staff
and then just a quick comment.
Does staff agree
that the ADUs
would count toward our arena goals?
I'll say my comment,
but I also reserve
counsel to weigh in on this.
To my knowledge,
the ADUs do not count
towards density.
So that much I do know.
Also,
they're accessories,
so they're not considered
the units.
Lastly,
on that point,
the multi-unit definition
calls for three units.
That's why I mentioned that.
But I'll let counsel
if they want to add on to that.
We haven't taken a look at that,
but I agree with what Marcus has said.
So yes or no to the arena?
I don't know the answer to it.
We can take a look at it.
We just need to hear from staff.
Yeah,
I'd like to hear that from staff.
Just another quick comment
regarding no market rate,
multifamily projects being built.
One is about 80%
through construction
near me in the Woodluck area.
And it is market rate.
It has affordable component to it
that got subsidy.
There's no component,
no affordable component.
No,
there isn't.
I know the developer.
There were some other
affordable projects
that were built in the area,
but the one adjacent to 160
is all market rate.
So they can be built,
I say.
You know,
how successful?
It started years ago.
Okay.
Also,
so kind of back to the ADU question
as to whether it counts for arena.
There's another project
in the midst of
Woodluck
that is actually
under construction right now.
And it consists of,
it's maximizing the SB 330.
Two parcels,
each with a single family residence,
an attached ADU
and a detached ADU.
So,
six units basically
on those two parcels.
And it's under construction right now.
So that's,
it's a possibility.
So back to the question
of could that be done?
Could staff,
you know,
actually condition that
as an approval
on the multifamily?
Any thoughts from,
from staff?
So,
I'm going to share the questions.
So I'm clearing the question.
Could we condition that
the,
as we're talking about
the multifamily parcel,
that it includes ADUs?
That if,
if we approve
the single family development
as the developer's requesting,
could we,
could we condition that
those single family parcels
also contain an ADU?
I know that's always
going to be an option,
but could it be a condition?
I think what I'm doing
is looking for a way
to maximize the density,
which I think a number
of us feel
is critical here,
and also,
you know,
respect what the developer
is putting,
putting forward here.
But we're,
real quick,
but we're speaking,
I just want to make sure
which parcel,
which side,
are we talking now
about the flex zone parcel?
I'm sorry,
the flex zone,
are you speaking
to the flex zone,
having ADUs conditions
for the flex zone?
I'm thinking
to the multi.
The multi.
Would that be a condition?
I think I heard
the developer agree to it.
I heard you say
that he would agree
to that condition,
right?
The multi-unit definition
in our code
says it's three units
within a single structure,
so I don't think
adding an ADU
gets us to three units
on one
with a single family.
So triplex
and above,
basically.
Well,
I'm also just thinking
if we go to,
if we swing back
to the developer's proposal,
single family,
and I think we're,
the flex parcel,
I tend to think
that there's more
potential legal issues
if we don't approve
that one,
unless other commissioners
disagree.
I'm looking for ways
to maximize
the multi-parcel,
and one could be
the single family
units on there
with each single family
parcel having
an ADU
included in it.
Yeah,
I would add that,
first of all,
I do not believe
that that could be
a condition of approval.
ADUs are non,
they're non-discretionary.
They're reviewed
as ministerial,
so I do not believe
that there could be
that condition of approval,
but I,
you know,
if council
has input as well,
that would be welcome.
I hate to say this,
but if that's the will
of the commission,
I would suggest
that we continue the item
so that we can take
a look at it.
Do we have any,
any other questions
or comments
from the commission Ortiz?
Thank you.
There are so many issues
that are coming up.
I hate recrafting things
at the dais.
It's just too confusing.
And I think the question
of whether or not ADUs,
particularly if they're not attached,
meet the definition
under California law
as multifamily
is an important question.
I don't think ADUs
that are not attached
meet the definition
of multifamily.
I think multifamily
is either two
or more attached
and beyond that.
So,
so you're suggesting
an attached AD.
Okay,
that's a clarification.
So,
but rather than go
and design that
in lieu of,
I think it would warrant,
you know,
staff coming back to us.
On a couple of other things
that I wanted to address
and I wanted to hear
all sides of this discussion,
particularly from our staff,
on the history of the project.
I have a bit of history
on this project,
but I won't bore
the commission with that.
What I'm struggling with
is this representation
that the multifamily site,
somehow,
that the residents
of Crocker Village
and the single-family dwellings
were unaware of.
And it's my understanding
that this site
with the multifamily
or the multifamily designation
has been in the plan
since 2010.
Is that correct?
I'm sorry,
staff,
I want staff to answer.
The multifamily designation
has been a part
of the PUD
since its inception
in 2010.
And on this question
of whether or not
there was a switch
with the senior housing,
was that in addition
to the original
multifamily designation
or was it in exchange of
or in lieu of?
There is not a version
or iteration
of the PUD
that doesn't include
the senior affordable housing
and the multifamily housing.
These are,
in every version
of the PUD,
distinct uses
that are both present
and acknowledged
as land uses
within the PUD.
And the totality included
both of those
multifamily designations.
I would reference
attachment seven.
I believe they are distinct,
listed separately.
Okay.
So I think it's really important
for education purposes
that those who believe
that they were unaware of it
or that there was somehow
a switcheroo,
that's simply not supported on,
anyone who buys a home,
generally your realtor
tells you what is likely
to be built.
You know,
there's a concept
in the law
that, you know,
you're effectively
have noticed
by the land use plan
that is around
where you purchase
your residence.
So there has never been
a switch
or an upzoning.
The multifamily
has always been there.
It's open,
continuous,
you know,
it's like,
it's there.
So I just hope
people understand that.
So we're not
upzoning
by the applicants.
We didn't upzone
as a city,
it's always been there.
For this body
to decide whether
or not
that multifamily
site
is essentially
downzoned
to single family
is the challenge
we're all facing.
And I,
I think it's important
for people
to understand
that when we make
the case
for affordable
or entry-level housing,
which we all want,
we live in a world
in which most of us
were raised
to think
that everybody
should be able
someday
to own a home.
But that's not
the reality today.
I mean,
the best design cities
have multiple
different types
of housing sites.
This site
is incredible.
I got to give
the developer
thus far
kudos
because he did
overcome a lot
of obstacles,
particularly the cleanup
at that site,
which I had a little bit
of a hand in
with legislation
that upped the level
of a cleanup.
But it was envisioned
to have that
housing diversity.
It was envisioned
from day one
to have multifamily
as well as single families
as well as unique
combinations
of single family,
but it has always
been envisioned
to be that ideal mix
of multifamily
and single family.
And that's what,
as a commission,
we are struggling
with essentially
a desire to downzone
to single family.
I think others
have talked about,
I mean,
these are,
whether or not
they can be built,
that's a legitimate
discussion.
It's for developers
in the market.
I don't know
that it's a discussion
within our land use
authority,
to decide,
well,
it's never going
to be built,
therefore we should
move to single family.
Our land use authority
is to interpret,
to apply
what was agreed upon,
and, you know,
we have to,
we can't simply
abandon the notion
of this ideal
mixed-use community
with multifamily
as well as single family
and a diversity
of those types.
because, and again,
this is affordable
multifamily.
I'm troubled
as well as others
about these,
many people
who lived in public
housing like I did,
you know,
who somehow think
that this equates
with public housing,
and public housing
isn't all bad either.
These are families
that deserve,
but that's not
what's being proposed here.
This is multifamily
market rate,
not affordable,
market rate,
which if you look
at rents in our town,
that's, you know,
that's over $2,000 a month.
Now, whether or not
it gets built,
that's certainly an issue,
but that's not an issue
for this body.
I would also say,
I think,
the notion that somehow,
you know,
multifamily is wrong,
it saddens me,
because again,
you read any urbanist,
any people
who design great cities,
many of you moved
from the suburbs,
because you wanted
to be in a dense,
you know,
urban environment
that offers
all the amenities,
and this project
is indeed probably
one of our last chances
to achieve our housing goals
that we are so far behind
in our general,
we have a general plan,
and then we are
so far behind it,
and there aren't
many opportunities left
to do that,
and this project,
consistent with the,
planning and the adoption
and the negotiations
and ultimate model
that our city adopted,
despite all the history
of some of the dynamics
of past council members,
this is what was agreed upon
by this developer
to do this multifamily,
so we are faced with,
do we now address
and meet a request
to down zone,
and I struggle with that
because I don't think,
I don't think that's
the right thing to do,
despite all of the assertions
of,
that somehow,
yeah.
Let me also just close with,
I mean,
I just think for those
who are opposed
to the multifamily,
it's not going
to bring down
property values,
I mean,
you go,
gosh,
what did they just build
over on Stockton Boulevard
and T Street,
Elmhurst,
that huge,
dense,
multifamily housing,
it's stunning,
it's beautiful,
it's pretty unaffordable,
I mean,
for many of us,
but it's not,
doesn't,
hasn't brought down
the neighborhood,
if anything,
you know,
it's given options
for that diversity
of housing,
so I guess,
finally,
I would just say,
let's not assume
that there is somehow
bad dealings
in the past
with the city
on the question
of this multifamily site,
it has been adopted,
it was agreed upon,
there's a desire
by the developer
to change that now,
I'm not going
to make judgment about it,
but let's not frame it
that somehow
it was already met,
and I won't go
into all the details
of SB 330,
I have a different
interpretation
of one provision
that was shared
that I disagree
the interpretation
of one section,
but I don't,
I think the 15 units
per acre
in SB 330
is a floor,
it's not a ceiling,
so I just,
we,
I mean,
our legal counsel
probably could do
a whole session
on SB 330
with this body,
and at some point
it may be important,
but I don't know
that we can tackle it
tonight and say
this is what it is
and isn't,
and I understand
advocacy,
on each side,
but what I saw
in SB 330
is the 15 units
per acre
is a floor,
and I do agree
that it was designed
to protect
against down zoning,
and that the language
always,
that I read
is to protect
against reducing density,
there's nothing in there
that says
you can't increase density,
and again,
this plan was adopted
in 2010
and is grandfathered
into SB 330,
so,
you know,
legal counsel,
I think,
you know,
whatever the outcome
tonight,
I think a deep dive
on SB 330,
if necessary,
either just as education
or otherwise,
is probably long overdue
for this body,
so with that,
I will yield my time.
Thank you.
Commissioner Reschke.
Thank you.
Yeah,
thanks to everyone
who came out tonight,
you're all really
excellent and compelling speakers,
I really enjoyed
hearing from you all,
I wanted to,
I think,
ask a couple of questions
and think through,
so one of the things
that I wanted to,
I really appreciate
Commissioner Ortiz
sharing like that
multifamily housing
isn't necessarily
affordable housing,
though it can be,
and for me,
I think the issue
is really density.
This project is,
like many people pointed out,
a very rare opportunity
to be very close
to a lot of amenities,
including a light rail station,
and if we want
our transit system to work,
we need to have
density near it.
Multifamily buildings
often get built
next to single-family homes,
and I think,
I also appreciate
Commissioner Ortiz
pointing out
that it was clear
that Cracker Village
was planned
to have multifamily,
so for the people
who bought homes there,
they went into that
knowing that would be
next to them.
There are many
single-family homes
all over the state
that are having multifamily
built next to them
that didn't think
that that would happen
because the zoning
has changed
or the state laws
have changed,
and when we build
multifamily next
to single-family homes,
we almost always
step the building down
so it becomes smaller
right next to the
single-family homes
and hold it back,
and I think,
as Mr. Petrovich shared,
he showed massing,
but he specifically said
it wouldn't look like this.
This is just massing.
It would step down.
It wouldn't be,
you know,
a huge tower over the homes.
I think a lot of people
shared what a great
neighborhood,
Crocker Village,
is,
which is really nice.
Kids walking from
Alice Bernie to home,
five-year-olds having
their best friends nearby,
and I think there's
a lot of families
who would like the opportunity
to have those same friends
and those same walkable
neighborhood,
and we could give them
that if there was enough
density to have
to have a lot of people
to have a lot of people.
Could you speak into the mic?
I think folks are having
a hard time hearing you.
I feel like I should
look at them.
Okay, so,
and then the biggest thing
that I see here
is the plans that I looked at
all have two-car garages,
and so for 31 homes
on the multifamily site,
that's 62 cars,
and putting that many cars,
building, first of all,
building buildings for cars
when we're in such a tight
housing crisis
and financing crisis,
to build a building
to keep two cars in
is really, I think,
inappropriate next to
a transit station.
So, you know,
when we talk about having
ADUs or increasing
the density in that way,
if we could eliminate cars
in buildings,
I think that would be
a step in the right direction.
And then, yeah,
you know,
affordable housing
is also an option,
and I just want to share
that, you know,
I heard a lot of things
like affordable housing
belongs in the commercial corridor,
not in our neighborhood,
and these downsides
to affordable housing,
but I don't think
that's the case.
I think affordable housing
does belong in our neighborhoods,
and wherever anyone
has a nice neighborhood
is where everyone
should be able
to afford to live.
So, yeah, thank you.
I have my time.
Thank you.
Commissioner Nybo.
I'd like to thank everyone
for coming out this evening.
There's a lot of red ties out there.
Thank you very much.
Sierra, yeah, Curtis Park.
Thank you for coming out.
As Mr. Petrovich said,
there's been 230 community meetings
on this project.
This will be the fourth time
that I will have voted
for this project.
It's my second lap
on the Planning Commission,
and this actually
is not the most crowded time
that this project
has had in this room.
And you know what?
The air conditioning
didn't work then either.
Damn.
It didn't work.
I've been booed at
when I voted for the project.
I've been shouted down.
This project started,
as we heard, in 2010.
The Jay Schneer letter
was in 2012.
The PUD guidelines
were approved in 2013.
The senior apartments
were approved in June of 2013.
The gas station,
that was the fun one.
That was November of 2015.
And then the tentative map
and PUD amendment
was re-approved
on January 28, 2016.
For those that aren't aware
of what a PUD is,
it's a planned unit development.
It's part of the zoning code.
And correct me if I'm wrong.
Please.
But on big, complicated projects,
there's a lot of issues involved.
You have your spatial issues
where you have the geology,
you've got the topography,
you've got the rainfall,
you've got the water,
you've got the different
building typologies
that go in there.
You have commercial,
you have residential,
you have multifamily perhaps,
you have industrial perhaps.
It's all designed
through a very deliberative process.
By the time it gets here,
that process has gone on
for a very long time.
We approve.
We don't,
we don't,
we're not supposed to design
from up here.
We get what we get
and then we approve it
or we deny it.
But the point is,
by the time it gets to us,
it has been thought out thoroughly.
It has been a,
it has been worked out.
And when you have 230 community meetings,
nothing is by chance.
It's not like it just accidentally showed up
and staff forgot to take it off the plan.
When a room is this full,
if there was a mistake on the plan,
it would be pointed out.
It would be caught.
January 28th,
2016,
at the dais,
the developer said,
this will be the last time
you ever see me here.
I agree to this plan.
He finished after 20 minutes
saying,
you have me on the record.
I approve of these plans.
I support the conditions of approval.
I will build this plan
according to how it's planned
down in front of us.
That was 2016.
So anybody who owned their home
before 2016,
yeah,
it,
it,
you're right.
It's changed.
But since then,
this is exactly what's been planned.
And if you've been told
something different,
if you were informed
that this was not going to be multifamily,
well,
then I think you have action.
But otherwise,
that's what's been planned.
And it's 230 community meetings.
There's been,
there's been a lot of blood,
sweat,
and terror.
Welcome to the community.
Welcome.
And it keeps going.
Regarding multifamily.
You know what?
Let's deal with that massing study
real quick.
Because that was sent to me.
That massing study,
that,
it,
it,
it is absolutely infuriating.
That massing study
is sent around the community.
And it gets people fired up.
It gets people wound up.
It causes division in the community.
It causes people to lose sleep.
That massing study
is absolute horse poop.
It will not be built.
There is no such thing
of a building typology
of five above three.
That thing would be
so massively over parked,
they would be selling
parking spots there.
It doesn't happen.
It's a scary thing
to get people wound up.
We've heard that market rate,
market rate multifamily
doesn't work.
That it's not,
it's not being built.
We literally just approved
a market rate multifamily project.
It literally,
we just approved it.
And if you take
that same footprint
and if you put it
on the 2.5 acres
that we're looking at today,
it's almost 130 acres.
Or it's almost 130 units.
We're not talking
about high rises here.
That's three-story,
stick-built parking at grade.
That is not a scary product.
That is very doable.
That can get done all day long.
We hear things,
well, you know,
I'm just,
I mean, we've heard it.
We've heard it.
So I can just say it from here.
We've been told
that if I don't get
what I want,
I'm going to take
this worthless piece
of property,
take a tax write-off,
and be done with it.
Well, you know what?
Rich people are going to rich.
I can't help that.
I don't get that choice.
So if that's what happens,
that's what happens.
We have a plan unit development.
It's been around
for 15 years.
It's almost done.
When you do a plan unit development,
you don't start
and just say,
you know what?
I'm going to keep on building
the highest land,
the,
the highest land residual
until something changes,
and then I'm going to ignore it,
and I'm going to do something else.
The entire thing
is negotiated in entirety,
and it's built out in entirety.
If we wanted to revise the PUD,
let's revise the PUD.
But that's not what
we're doing here today.
We're trying to get around it.
So when the time comes,
I want to move forward
with staff's recommendation.
Is that a motion?
I'll make a motion.
Thank you.
I'll second.
That's a second.
Commissioner Hernandez?
Thank you, Chair,
and thank you to fellow commissioners
for all their comments
and questions
and to the community
for being out here tonight so late.
I really appreciate your perspectives
and your time
and your desires.
I've been really torn
on the discussion
and the issue here,
and I'm not sure
which way I'll lean yet,
but I just had one question
since it was raised
a couple of times
in terms of the legality
of splitting an application.
If staff could please respond to that.
This application
has two separate parcels
that are non-contiguous
that have different zoning,
that have different PUD designations,
and they require different,
so there's a conditional use permit
that applies exclusively
to the flex zone,
and there is a PUD guidelines amendment
which would directly impact
the multi-parcel.
And so,
these are
different entitlements.
Each are discretionary.
It's my understanding
that
the commission
can
grant
one entitlement
and not another one.
I don't see
an issue
with
staff's recommendation.
Thank you for that clarification.
Thank you.
So,
just as a follow-up,
you're saying that because
there are two separate parcels
which,
with separate
regulations,
rules,
parameters,
that's why it was treated
differently the way it was?
And also entitlements.
They have different entitlements,
and entitlements require
decisions.
The decisions on entitlements
can be different.
Okay.
Thank you.
Anyone else?
I would just add
the chances of
affordable housing
happening
on that site
are very minimal.
There's like
barely any money
at the state right now.
So,
there's no soft funding.
Tax credits
are super hard
to get.
I don't even know
if Bill Povello's here.
He could speak to it.
He used to be
head of the
tax credit allocation committee.
So,
it's super hard.
And,
and the only way
you're going to have
affordable housing
on that site
is
if you have a developer
who's committed
to seeing affordable housing
happening
on that site,
which is not the case here.
So,
I just wanted to,
I'm not saying this
to necessarily
ease the minds
of,
of the residents,
but I'm just saying
like this is,
this is the situation.
What's going to be built there
if,
if,
and I agree,
the conditions are not right
for multifamily.
Interest rates
are way too high right now.
So,
that's just not going to happen.
So,
so,
if we do agree to this,
right,
we're most likely,
what we're going to see
is single family,
31 single family homes built,
right,
at the flex parcel
that multifamily site
will continue to be vacant
until,
you know,
Mr. Petrovich has
some other idea
or market conditions
get better
for,
for multifamily,
which,
you know,
who,
who can predict
the market cycle,
right?
But Mr. Petrovich
is saying rents
are never going to be
high enough
in,
in that area.
That's,
that's also probably
what he's saying as well.
But,
so anyways,
I think that's,
that's kind of what
we're,
we're voting on.
So,
I want to move
the evening along.
It doesn't seem like
anyone else has
any comments.
Commissioner Hernandez,
do you have it?
Nope.
Okay.
Clerk,
will you call a,
call,
call roll?
Thank you,
Chair.
Commissioners,
please unmute.
Commissioner Lee.
I'm sorry,
just for clarity,
we are voting to
approve staff's
recommendation,
correct?
Okay.
Aye.
Commissioner Lamas.
Aye.
Commissioner Naibo.
Aye.
Commissioner Caden.
Aye.
Commissioner Hernandez.
Aye.
Commissioner Macias-Reed
is absent.
Commissioner Ortiz.
Aye.
Commissioner Blunt.
Aye.
Vice Chair Chase.
Aye.
Commissioner Rischke.
Aye.
Commissioner Thompson
is absent.
And Chair Young.
Aye.
Thank you.
The motion passes.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you,
everybody.
Sure,
there's more to come.
Um,
um,
next item on the agenda
is item six,
airport south industrial annexation,
P21-017.
are there any,
are there any disclosures or recusals on the dais that anyone would like to share?
Commissioner Ortiz,
uh,
well,
I'll go according to the,
yeah.
Commissioner Lee.
Yeah,
I just wanted to,
uh,
add,
um,
I really don't want to do this because I know that there's,
uh,
staff and members of the public here,
including the applicant,
uh,
they're already to talk on this item.
But,
uh,
I know that several of the folks,
uh,
who attended tonight's meeting to speak on this item have already left.
And so I don't,
I'm not sure if right now is the appropriate time to do it,
but I just want to put a motion,
um,
uh,
for,
for the commission to,
to vote whether,
uh,
to continue this item to the next,
uh,
planning meeting.
Uh,
can we get to disclosures first and then we can discuss that?
I do have a disclosure.
Um,
uh,
I attended one of the last go meetings.
Uh,
for this project,
um,
I met with the applicant,
including,
uh,
also,
uh,
ECOS,
uh,
the,
uh,
Environmental Council of Sacramento.
Uh,
I also met with a representative of IBEW Local 340 and I received,
uh,
multiple emails from,
uh,
members of the public,
uh,
consistent with the staff report.
Commissioner Hernandez.
Thank you,
Chair.
I received,
uh,
several emails from community members as well as,
uh,
from my representative of the applicant and I had a brief phone conversation
with the representative of the applicant,
consistent with staff report.
Thank you.
Commissioner Caden.
Yeah,
I'm,
I'm going to be,
uh,
recusing myself from this item.
Uh,
don't have a financial conflict of interest,
but just to avoid any,
uh,
perception of bias given my employment at SACOG and the link between SACOG's long range plan and the LAFCO annexation process.
I just want to recuse myself for that reason.
Thank you.
Commissioner Lamas.
I had a meeting with the applicant and a representative of the applicant as well as a meeting with,
um,
a representative of a stakeholder group and received several emails,
uh,
from community members.
Vice Chair Chase.
Thank you,
Chair.
Um,
I had a meeting with the,
uh,
applicant,
uh,
telephone conversation with the member of the,
uh,
public,
actually a member of ECOS.
Uh,
uh,
all consistent with the staff reports.
Thank you,
Commissioner.
I received,
um,
email from the applicant and,
um,
also received,
uh,
email communication from,
um,
a lot of residents consistent with SAP report.
Thank you,
Commissioner Ortiz.
I received numerous,
uh,
emails from,
uh,
individuals opposed to this as well as a couple of,
emails and support.
And I've had a conversation with one opponent and a conversation with,
over the phone with,
uh,
a proponent of the project.
Thank you.
Commissioner Nybo.
Yeah.
Same.
I,
uh,
a bunch of emails and then I had a phone conversation with the applicant and with an
opponent.
Thank you.
Project.
Commissioner Reschke.
Also,
I received a bunch of emails from,
um,
the,
the public and the applicant.
Thank you.
And I also received,
um,
emails and I met with,
uh,
applicants representative and an opponent as well and tried to get a phone call in
with,
uh,
another member of the public,
but wasn't able to.
So I apologize with,
with the time.
And we said that I tried to reach out,
but that's all I've got.
Thank you.
Um,
so I guess before we do the presentation,
I,
there's a request from commissioner Lee to continue this item.
Yes.
Uh,
you know,
I know that there were several people in the audience and they were here earlier,
uh,
but they are no longer here.
And,
um,
I'm not sure,
uh,
which side they are,
or,
uh,
you know,
wanting to speak on,
but,
uh,
I know that several of them have gone home.
So I just want to put it in.
I just want to put it up to,
uh,
for the commission to vote,
uh,
whether to continue this item.
I,
I would typically what I,
I mean,
in a situation like this,
I would ask the applicant.
I think the applicant,
if,
if they are here,
if they want to continue it,
I would,
I would want to give that discretion to the applicant.
Yeah.
Nick Abdis on behalf of the applicant,
we'd like to continue with the hearing.
Okay.
Continue with it.
Yeah.
Not continue the hearing.
Exactly.
Yeah,
I was about to say,
the operative word of like,
okay.
Thank you.
Um,
so that said,
I,
I mean,
I,
I would,
I would err on just trying to continue and just get this,
get this baby done.
So,
are you making a formal motion still?
Turn on mute here.
Uh,
yup,
that's fine.
Uh,
if the applicant wants to continue,
um,
I'm fine with that.
Okay.
Thank you.
Proceed.
Thank you.
Oh,
commissioner Lummis.
Do you want to say something?
I did have a question.
Um,
I know we asked if there was a limitation on how late we can meet.
Do we know?
Can we meet past midnight?
Not saying that we will get there,
but is there a cutoff time?
The rules of procedure don't have an end time,
but I don't know when the lights are going to go out.
Oh,
lights could automatically go out.
I don't know.
Oh,
okay.
Could you confirm that the garage is still open?
Some of our members park in the garage.
Oh,
we get locked into the city garage.
The city garage is open until,
does anyone know that answer to that question?
It's 24 hours.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
So then,
so I guess we will continue to have the meeting until the lights go off,
or we want to bring up this subject again,
but just wanted to be supportive of,
I know folks did leave,
but I see that we do have a lot of folks in the audience and wanted to be a
support of those folks that did,
were able to stick around and have an opportunity to speak on the item as well.
Okay.
Okay.
And then just checking in.
It's almost 10 30.
I said,
give us an hour to kind of reassess whether or not we want to keep reassess,
whether or not we want to keep going on.
Um,
is everyone good to go?
All right,
let's go for it.
We're here for you guys.
Thanks.
Alrighty.
Good evening.
Vice chair,
young and planning design commissioners.
My name is Garrett Norman,
senior planner,
and I will be providing the staff presentation for the airport South industrial
annexation project.
This project consists of annexing approximately 447 acres from Sacramento County
into the city of Sacramento.
The proposed development includes up to 5.2 million square feet of light
industrial comprised of warehouse distribution and research and development
on approximately 237 acres and up to 98,000 square,
uh,
square feet of highway commercial serving uses on 15.7 acres.
That is anticipated to include a gas station,
drive-thru restaurants and a hotel.
There are four non-participating parcels included within the annexation area
that are not included with the development application.
These properties total roughly 83 acres and have the potential to be developed
with 1.4 million square feet of light industrial uses.
Remaining acreage is devoted for stormwater detention,
utility pump stations,
and a SMUD substation.
And lastly,
there is a Caltrans remnant parcel just south of I-5.
So to walk through these parcels again,
here in purple are the light industrial for up to 5.2 million.
Here in the red or the pink is the 98,000 square feet for highway commercial.
These are the four non-participating properties.
These are the detention basins.
These are the utility and SMUD substations.
And this is the Caltrans remnant property.
The annexation area is in unincorporated Sacramento County
and is located southeast of Powerline Road and I-5.
The property abuts the city limit boundary on the east and a portion to the north.
The property is adjacent to Metro Air Park Industrial Complex
and the Sacramento International Airport to the north,
the future Watt EV truck terminal to the west,
the Westlake neighborhood to the east,
and Paso Verde K-8 school to the south.
This application has been in process for four years.
The application was first submitted to the city in May of 2021.
There has been a tremendous amount of work that has led up to this evening,
which includes significant outreach efforts,
an EIR scoping meeting,
a review and comment at the Planning and Design Commission in April of last year,
releasing the draft EIR,
preparation of the final EIR,
a recommendation by the Active Transportation Commission in March of this year,
and two Sacramento Local Agency Formation Commission hearings
on the Sphere of Influence Amendment.
At their May 7th hearing,
the Sacramento LAFCO approved the Sphere of Influence Amendment
and certified the EIR with their decision.
The proposed project includes several entitlements.
These entitlements include
annexation into the city limits,
general plan amendments,
pre-zoning to establish zoning designations,
two development agreements,
one for each participating property owner,
planned unit development guidelines and schematic plan,
master parcel map,
public facilities finance plan
that establishes the funding framework
for required infrastructure,
amendment to the city's bikeway master plan
for the proposed bicycle infrastructure,
water supply assessment to ensure adequate water supply
to serve the development,
and lastly,
a tax exchange agreement is also required
between the city and the county prior to annexation,
which will be brought to the council separately.
The city has prepared a final environmental impact report
and mitigation monitoring and reporting program,
which included analysis of the proposed project
as well as land use assumptions
for the non-participating properties.
LAFCO is the final decision maker
on the annexation component
and will consider the annexation
after the city acts on the entitlements.
The project proposes to amend the 2040 general plan
by establishing land use designations,
floor area ratio standards,
the circulation element
to identify roadway classifications
and incorporate the area
into the North Natomas community plan.
The designations include roughly 420 acres
of employment mixed use
for light industrial and commercial areas
and roughly 6.7 acres of open space
to serve as a 125-foot buffer
along the eastern and southern boundaries
adjacent to Westlake and Paso Verde School.
The proposed pre-zoning includes rezoning
from the county's agricultural 80 zone
to roughly 336 acres of light industrial or M1 PUD,
roughly 15.7 acres for highway commercial or HCPUD,
roughly 70 acres of light industrial
or M1 for the non-participating properties
and roughly 6.7 acres of agricultural open space
for the 125-foot buffer along the eastern
and southern boundaries adjacent
to Westlake and Paso Verde School.
The project includes planned unit development guidelines
and schematic plan.
The PUD would only apply
to the participating properties.
The non-participating properties
are not included within the PUD.
The PUD establishes a regulatory development framework
with prescriptive development standards
for building design and site layout
as well as a schematic plan
that identifies land uses.
The guidelines specifically address building orientation,
height and setbacks,
landscaping and screening requirements,
parking and circulation standards,
architectural design elements and monument signage.
The PUD provides additional restrictions
on the eastern edge closest to Westlake
that includes maximum building height,
maximum building size,
orienting all truck bays away
from the eastern property line
and requiring an additional 125-foot building setback
to serve as an additional buffer
to the city-owned buffer property.
Because the non-participating properties
are not part of the PUD,
staff is proposing to split zone
the property closest to Westlake and Paso Verde
with a 125-foot open space buffer
as previously described
in the pre-zone and general plan exhibits.
This split zone designation provides assurances
that the land cannot be developed
with light industrial uses
and therefore creates an additional open space buffer
to match the building setback provided within the PUD.
Similar to the city-owned buffer property,
there is an additional 200-plus-foot buffer
between Paso Verde School
and the non-participating property.
This buffer area is within the county of Sacramento
and has limited development potential
because of its zoning and unique configuration.
It's important to add that it's not unusual
to see light industrial uses
that accommodate heavy truck bays
that are adjacent to residential.
Both examples shown on the screen
are in North Natomas.
On the left side of the screen
is a research and development spec building
that was improved in the employment center zone,
which is directly across from residential
along Duckhorn Drive.
On the right side is the Panhandle subdivision
that was approved north of the Pan area
along Del Paso Road.
The applicant proposes to subdivide
the participating properties into 25 master parcels.
This includes 11 industrial parcels
totaling 237 acres,
six highway commercial parcels
totaling 15.7 acres,
eight utility parcels for detention basins,
pump stations, and SMUD substation.
The map also establishes the proposed roadways
including Airport South Industrial Drive
connecting Powerline Road to the eastern boundary,
Metro Air Parkway extension
from the I-5 interchange southward,
and internal circulation with A Drive and B Drive.
A roundabout at A Drive and Bayou Way
is proposed to discourage truck traffic
from heading east towards West Lake.
And the abandonment and realignment
of a portion of the existing Bayou Way
is also proposed.
The map includes comprehensive conditions
of approval for infrastructure requirements,
public facilities and financing,
utility connections and easements,
flood protection measures,
and future maintenance obligations.
An environmental impact report
has been prepared in accordance
with the California Environmental Quality Act,
with the city being co-lead agency with LAFCO.
This process began in March of 2022
with the notice of preparation
and a public scoping meeting.
The draft EIR was released
for public review in May of 2024,
and LAFCO held a public hearing
on the draft EIR in June of 2024.
The final EIR is complete,
and LAFCO certified the FEIR
with the Sphere of Influence Amendment
that was approved earlier this month.
The city council will also be required
to certify the final EIR
with the city entitlements.
Mitigation measures are incorporated
to reduce most impacts
to less than significant level.
However, even with mitigation,
some impacts were found to be
significant and unavoidable
and related to visual character,
farmland and agriculture policies,
and air quality.
If there are significant
and unavoidable impacts,
the lead agency must adopt
a statement of overriding considerations
and consider economic, legal, social,
technological, and other benefits
to certify the EIR for project approval.
The benefits of this project include
revitalizing underutilized lands,
provides additional retail near residential,
creating permanent employment opportunities
near places of residence,
generate property tax and sales revenue
for the city,
provides funding for the Natomas Basin
Habitat Conservation Plan.
The project is located
within the Natomas Basin,
which is home to several animal
and plant species protected
under state and federal law
as endangered or threatened.
The city obtained authorization
in 2003 to allow development
while protecting endangered species
in North and South Natomas.
This is referred to
as the Natomas Basin Habitat Conservation Plan
and covers roughly 53,000 acres
of land area within the basin
and identifies 22 sensitive species
potentially affected by development.
Two properties in the annexation area
on the eastern edge of the property area,
totaling 121 acres,
are included in the HCP permit area.
The city has an authorized development total
of 8,050 acres.
The remaining acreage
within the annexation area
is eligible as surplus
and will not exceed
the 8,050 acre cap.
If the project is developed,
the required HCP mitigation includes
approximately 13.7 million HCP fees,
including land dedication
of over 200 acres
of protected open space,
requires pre-construction surveys
for covered species
and avoidance
and minimization measures.
The project would contribute
to the successful completion
of HCP conservation strategy
and supports acquisition
of the remaining 325.7 acres needed
for North and South Natomas build-out.
The project would not affect
the efficacy of the 1.5 acre
to 1 acre mitigation ratio.
It would not adversely affect
site-specific management plans
for the Natomas Basin Conservancy Reserves.
It would not significantly
impact habitat connectivity
for covered species
and it would not prevent
the conservancy
from establishing
required reserve lands.
Staff recommends
the commission forward
a recommendation of approval
to the city council
because the project
is a logical
and contiguous expansion
of the city limits
and is within the city's
sphere of influence.
It is consistent
with ensuring logical
city boundaries
that facilitate
the ability
to efficiently provide
city services,
address economic development needs
and optimize
municipal costs
and revenues.
It is consistent
with the general plan goals
for industrial areas
which aim to provide
industrial opportunities
in suitable locations
to promote economic growth
and encourage
well-designed
industrial properties
particularly where
interfacing with others.
It creates an industrial
and commercial development
that supports
the North Natomas
community plan's
broader goals
for creating
a complete community
with diverse land uses
providing employment
opportunities
that complement
the area's existing development
and provides an opportunity
to benefit
the Natomas Basin
Habitat Conservation Plan
by supporting
the long-term objectives
of the conservation strategy.
This concludes
my presentation.
The applicant has also
prepared a presentation
and both staff
and the applicant
will be available
for questions.
Thank you.
Good evening,
Chair, members of the Planning Commission.
Again, Nick Abdus,
Law Offices of Abdus and Coochie
on behalf of the project.
All right,
we do have some slides
we want to go through
and we are cognizant
of the time,
obviously,
so we'll work
as best we can
to work through these.
So, again,
we thank you
for the opportunity
to present this project.
It represents really
over four years
of meticulous planning
and extensive
community engagement.
Before I begin,
I do want to express
my sincere gratitude
and appreciation
for the collaborative effort
that has brought us
to this moment.
While complex projects
often generate
robust debate,
it's important
to recognize
and acknowledge
the professional dedication
and countless hours
invested by everyone involved.
We're particularly grateful
to the city's
exceptional planning staff,
including Garrett,
whom you just heard
from Cheryl,
Scott,
and Matthew,
whose expertise
and guidance
has been valuable
throughout this process.
And having been
a practicing land use attorney
for over two and a half decades
in the region,
this is certainly
the city's A team
and I don't hesitate
in saying that.
So, with that,
I'd like to introduce
our project team
who's a commitment
and attention to detail
has been instrumental
to developing this proposal.
These professionals
and their support staffs,
many of whom here
are with us tonight
to respond to any questions
you may have,
bring many decades
of combined experience
to this effort.
So, at this time,
I'd like to introduce,
I didn't clarify
at the beginning,
I represent AKT Development.
North Point
is our development partner.
So, Jeff Griffin
with North Point Development
is with me this evening
and we'll begin
the project overview
and I'll be back with you
a little bit later
in the presentation
and we do obviously
want to reserve some time
for rebuttal if necessary.
Good evening,
commissioners.
Thank you for staying late.
Very much appreciated.
Thank you for allowing me
the opportunity
to introduce our firm
as well as discuss
our project.
As Nick said,
I'm Jeff Griffin.
I'm the West Region Partner
for North Point Development.
I opened our local office
here in 2018.
Although North Point Development
is headquartered
in Kansas City,
I'm a Sacramento native.
I was actually born
in Woodland.
North Point Development
is a privately held
real estate operating company
founded in 2012
by Nathaniel Hagedorn,
our current CEO.
Our firm specializes
in industrial,
data center,
and multifamily developments.
Our current national portfolio
consists of 150 million
square feet of Class A industrial space
and 6,500 multifamily units.
We have nine offices
across the country
employing roughly
400 development staff.
Our developments span 27 states
and have helped create a home
for over 100,000 jobs nationwide,
the single biggest fact
that I'm most proud of
on this slide.
This slide also shows
the representation of
some of our logistics clients,
several of which
are Fortune 50 companies.
Additionally,
we show many of the
charitable organizations
we help support locally
and beyond.
Here locally
in the Sacramento community,
we have developed
over 5 million square feet
of Class A industrial space,
of which approximately
4 million square feet
is in the Natomas community
at Metro Air Park.
In 2018,
we started in,
within the Southport Business Park
in West Sacramento,
a three-building project
spanning 60 acres.
Then in 2019,
we commenced
our first Metro Air Park project
and have gone on
to develop seven assets
within that park
over the past five-plus years
across 245 acres.
In 2021,
we purchased roughly 100 acres
from Merrowjet
in the Rancho Cordova community
and have redeveloped
that property
into two assets
with an additional 20 acres
yet to develop.
Locally,
our projects represent
an approximate
$700 million investment
while helping create
over 3,000 long-term jobs,
not to mention
thousands of construction jobs
that go along
with our developments.
This job creation
is accomplished
through teamwork,
by working closely
with the municipalities,
our capital partners,
the contracting industry,
in addition to,
and most importantly,
the ultimate user.
North Point development
is different
than most other
national development firms
in the sense
that our business model
is to own our projects
long-term,
in contrast to many other firms
that stabilize their assets
and typically dispose of them
to institutional investment funds
that mostly have
no community presence.
We have been a part
of the Sacramento community
since 2018
and plan to be here
for a very long time.
The Sacramento community
has been a terrific market
for us to develop in
and we will continue
to live in our core values
and do our very best
to deliver high-quality projects
that provide substantial
community benefits.
Now, I wanted to just give you
a brief overview
of the Airport South area
and what has occurred
in the last 10 years.
Keep in mind,
this slide is from 2015.
As you'll see,
very limited development
around the International Airport.
There was no interchange
at that point in time
and there were zero assets
on the ground
within Metro Airport.
Fast forward 10 years
and you see extensive growth.
We now have a $30 million
interchange at I-5
and Metro Airport Parkway.
The North Lake subdivision
is now mostly built
and Metro Airport
now has 29 assets
totaling almost 10 million
square feet of Class A
industrial space.
This park has become
a premier logistics location
due to its proximity
to the I-5 and I-80 intersection
so goods can be moved
north, south and east and west
across our country.
On this slide,
we wanted to highlight
the International Airport's
planned development property boundary
which you see
overlaid in red
as well as
Metro Airport's boundary
overlaid in blue.
You see the proposed
ASI annexation area
overlaid in orange.
Please note the $30 million
interchange dumps
into the property.
the North Lake subdivision
and the recently approved
WAD-EV project
approved by the County
Board of Supervisors
which will assist
in providing needed
infrastructure
to a future of
CARB compliant
electric truck fleets.
For these reasons,
we believe our proposed project
is the appropriate use
of this land
due to its proximity
to the housing for jobs
as well as being
located under the flight path.
In 2021,
as Garrett mentioned,
we started conceptualizing
our project.
This is the original site plan
which is the basis
for the environmental
impact analysis.
Note 4.4 million square feet
of industrial space
and a highway commercial component.
Over the past four years,
while soliciting
District 1 community feedback
by hosting multiple
community outreach events,
we have redesigned
the easternmost parcel.
Zooming into that parcel,
you can see
we've gone on
to reduce the scale
of the buildings.
These types of assets
could now house
community amenities
such as bounce house,
kids' play zones,
residential service providers,
et cetera,
which was requested
by the community.
In addition,
these types of assets
could be utilized
for research
and development facilities
similar to those
such as the local
Nivijin home
that Garrett referenced earlier
located on Duckhorn.
Next,
we relocated
the north-south connector road
further away
from the residential community
as requested.
We also maintained
a roundabout
to direct truck trips
toward the I-5 interchange
while additionally
slowing down traffic
moving eastbound
into the residential community
which we heard
has been an ongoing concern.
Lastly,
as Garrett mentioned,
we've also provided
in the PUD
a required
125-foot setback
from the eastern portion
of the project
which will place
any vertical assets
some 350 feet
from the Lanfranco properties.
All right,
so just to break things up,
I'm going to come in here.
So separate and apart
from the project
before you,
in response to
and as a gesture
of goodwill
with the immediate neighborhood,
North Point Development
agreed to assist
the park development staff
in conceptualizing
an extension
of the existing
E-Root Park
linear park
adjacent to
the West Lake community
by improving
this currently
city-owned buffer
property
which lies between
the proposed
Airport South project
and the West Lake community.
As you can see
from this exhibit,
the concept
could include
an improved trail
connecting the north
section
to the E-Root Park trail
with substantial
landscape features.
We've also provided
an easement
on our tentative
parcel map
for future
bike and trail
connections
into Airport South
at the proposed
trail location
should the city
proceed with improvement
of this area.
So we put together
a couple of video
simulations
to help visualize
what the visual impacts
would look
on Lanfranco
and then we do have
a little overall
project video
as well
to provide
some visual
simulation
of what the project
could look like.
So this is starting
on the south end
of Lanfranco
heading northbound.
This mimics
the substantial landscape
that we showed
on the previous slide.
please note
that the buildings
are shielded
quite well
by the landscape.
And then on this slide
we wanted to provide
a visual
of the architecture
for the proposed project.
these are the renderings
that we worked
with planning staff
that we landed on.
The concepts
for the logistics facilities
some of which
are contained
within the PUD
development guidelines.
Note the top two
display
the requested roofline
and wall plane
articulation
with multiple paint schemes
to break the massing
of the buildings.
The bottom left
represents the smaller
buildings
in the east most
portion of our project area
with more glazing
along with articulation
features
to represent
more office building
type looks.
And on the bottom right
we show a very basic
concept of a proposed
four-story hotel
which would be allowed
within the highway
commercial area
at the interchange.
Now we'll show you
the slide
of our proposed project.
The video.
We're currently now dropping down
on the proposed
Metro Air Parkway extension
to the south
heading southbound
panning to the west
looking at the highway
commercial component
west of Metro Air Parkway
and the proposed hotel
component of the highway
commercial.
Now we're at the intersection
of Airport South Drive
and Metro Air Parkway
looking westward.
Now turning east
we'll travel down
Airport South Drive.
These buildings are very similar
to the assets
that we have
at Metro Air Park
and if anybody's driven
that parkway now
you're seeing a lot
of the mature growth
on the landscape.
This area here
represents the detention basin
and now we're
heading further east
entering that eastern
portion of the project
where we
designed much smaller buildings.
note all the truck courts
facing away
from the residential community.
And this view represents
the city buffer area
you can see the landscape
there at the bottom
of the page.
I hope you like that video.
I'm getting sleepy
from that view.
Next, these pictures
represent some of
North Point's assets
across the country.
Some similar to our
Airport South concept
while others designed
specifically for certain
tenants and clients.
Also we wanted to provide
a brief representation
of the interior warehouse
components of these
logistics buildings.
Note these are no longer
industrial warehouses
but high-tech logistics
facilities.
that are clean
and professional
with advanced material
handling equipment
and often with
some level of robotics.
To compete in today's
logistics industry
comes down to
optimizing automation
for quicker
and more efficient
processing and delivery
of goods.
And the last slide
regarding our project
is the office component
of these assets.
As you can see here
it's often similar
in nature to Class A
office space
for the employment
retention factor.
These photos are actual
North Point development
clients,
facilities,
some of which also
house cafeterias
and exercise areas
for the employee
enjoyment.
Now Nick will finish
the presentation
and talk about
the economic benefits.
Yeah, so if we can
quickly touch,
we only had a couple
more slides,
quickly touch on
the economic benefits
here.
We've touched on
the nature and the
setting of the project.
Certainly the economic
benefits are not
to be understated.
And so to estimate
the economic benefits
to the city
and beyond,
we retained
EPS to conduct
an economic
impact analysis
and on the screen
you see the results
of that economic
impact analysis.
As you can see,
the big number
is over half a billion
dollar of construction
investment providing
for substantial public
sector tax revenues
based upon increased
property values.
We've also noted
significant school fees
noting that we're not
going to generate
any children out
of the site
because there's
no residential.
And we've also
estimated the potential
for meaningful
sales tax dollars
should an e-commerce
user be housed there
that would create
that point of sale
sales tax revenue.
So, you know,
as we've talked about
throughout the slides,
I mean,
this really represents
a massive investment
in the community
and is,
in addition,
let's go to the next slide,
this slide here,
it just really
is the bottom line
in terms of fees
that are being generated
by the project
over the course
of the development
of the project
and embodied
in the public facilities
finance plan.
So we'll go to the next slide.
So also derived
from the analysis,
this project represents
the potential
to create a home
for over 5,400
long-term operational jobs
while creating
over 3,700
construction job years.
This project
could be an employment hub
for the community,
all immediately adjacent
to the diverse
housing opportunities
already being provided
for in North and Tomas.
And it's very important
to highlight here
and something
we are very proud of
is the fact
that we have negotiated
a career workforce
training agreement
on the project
which assures
the delivery
of additional
significant economic benefits
to our local workforce
through our agreement
with organized labor.
This agreement
ensures that
a large pool
of skilled craft workers
will be employed
in the building
of the project
providing sustainable
employment opportunities
and protecting
established living wage levels
and working conditions
that support
middle-class families
in our community
in addition to
enhancing career opportunities.
So, in closing,
I want to hit on
some of the key concerns
that you've heard about
in the e-comments
and what you may hear
about tonight
just very quickly.
First is regarding
the Habitat Conservation Plan.
This project,
as you've heard
from the city's presentation,
actually advances
the environmental protection
provided for in the HCP
by assisting the HCP
in its implementation
and generating
close to $14 million
in endowment revenue.
What Garrett didn't provide
in the slide
is that that represents
30% of the total endowment
that the Conservancy
has raised in 25 years.
It will be raised
just by this project alone.
So, importantly,
we achieve this
while staying
within the city's maximum
permitted acreage
under the city-authorized
take permits.
This property,
I think,
is important to note
would never qualify
for permanent protection
due to permanent conservation
due to its proximity
to the airport,
which last year,
I understand,
had over a million,
a million two passenger traffic,
existing development,
and I-5 that has
a daily average trips
of close to 200,000 vehicle trips.
It simply does not meet
the HCP siting criteria.
Second,
as it relates
to ag land conversion,
I didn't mention
that in addition
to my professional life,
I'm a third generation
Natoman from a farming family,
and I still actually
maintain a small farm
out in Natomas.
And I can tell you firsthand
this land has limited
agricultural viability
due to its geographic constraints
that restrict certain
ag activities
like crop testing,
pesticide use,
and create ongoing conflicts
with adjacent residents
regarding dust noise
and pests,
to name a few issues.
And so,
while this project
will permanently conserve
higher value
agricultural land
one-to-one,
protecting farmland
that's currently
under zero protection,
third,
regarding traffic
and community impacts,
we've taken these concerns
seriously by reducing
the development intensity
as we've discussed
on Parcel 5,
and the EIR confirms
that the traffic impacts
are reduced
to less than significant
levels with mitigation.
Regarding air quality
and airport safety,
we had a health risk
assessment analysis
prepared for the development
and it shows
that impacts
are below
the established thresholds
for the nearby neighborhood
and the school.
Regarding detention basins
near the airport,
the EIR determined
that bird strike risks
would be less than significant
and will implement
a wildlife hazard
management plan
in coordination
with airport personnel.
It's the same approach
that's been used successfully
by other projects
in the Natomas area
incorporating water features
like a detention basin.
So, finally,
you might also hear
about the county's
urban services boundary.
I think we want to make clear
that everybody understands
that this is a tool
for unincorporated areas
that's never applied
to any city in the county,
including the city of Sacramento
in its history of growth
over the decades.
So, here's the reality
that this project represents
the last vacant portion of land
between the city's current boundary
and the airport,
surrounded by three sides,
by existing or planned development
in the form of WAD EV.
That was mentioned earlier
that I understand breaking ground
this summer.
The question isn't whether
this land will be developed.
Like we said,
it's next to the airport.
There's a new heavy truck
recharging facility
with a 100-acre solar facility
with it,
and obviously the new interchange.
So, really,
the question is whether
we're going to do it thoughtfully
with community benefits,
workforce protections,
and environmental stewardship
or wait for a less desirable option.
So, again,
thank you for your indulgence
in giving us the time
to make this presentation,
and we're happy to answer
any and all questions.
Thank you.
A break.
We are having some tech issues,
and so we need to reset
the tablet here,
and so give us five minutes,
and then we'll reconvene,
and we'll move on
to public comments.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Chair, stoppers, wait when you are.
All right.
We're going to move on
to public comments.
Given the fact that we have
some people who may have left,
can I just see a show of hands
of how many people are planning
on making public comments?
Okay.
I don't think anyone's left,
so okay.
Yeah, no, I know.
I was being facetious, so.
I think we're probably
going to go past 12.
We generally like to not do that,
but I want you guys are here,
so I would just ask
if people can be
as brief and concise,
and then I think for those
who maybe are part
of a certain cohort,
if you want to maybe strategize
and maybe say,
hey, I can get our points across
with maybe not the whole group,
so if you could find ways
to creatively get your points across
to the dais,
that would be much appreciated.
So, all right.
Let's fire away.
Thank you, Chair.
So, I have a 29 speaker slip.
I'm going to call a few of you.
Can I please have the following names
lined up at the aisle?
And then you can sit down
on the reserved seating,
if need be.
Okay, so our first speaker
is Carmen Lugo,
followed by Daniel Garcia,
Alexander Hampton,
Ralph Proper,
and Barry,
excuse me,
B. Terry Burns.
Hi, everyone.
Thank you for your time.
It's obvious to me
that the prior speakers
looked over our arguments
in the LAFCO meeting,
and now they're circumventing
what we were saying,
but I still want to reiterate
my concerns.
As far as the warehouses,
the work can still be done
over at McClellan Park.
These union workers
would be able to work
at McClellan Park.
Let's see.
I am very concerned
about the erosion
of the green space
in Sacramento.
Sacramento.
We have a lot of building
going on statewide,
I mean statewide,
citywide,
countywide.
There's plenty of land
being developed.
There was agreement
years ago
that set aside
that land
for the birds,
the migratory birds.
I'd appreciate it
if you continue
to honor that agreement.
Safety is an issue.
The birds flying
into aircraft
and possibly flying
and causing an accident
will increase.
Air pollution
from diesel trucks
going by
will increase
lung cancer.
Please do,
as our community
requested,
unlike the situation
that we had
with the Golden 1
Center downtown.
Everyone said,
no,
don't do it,
and what happened?
It went up anyway
against the residents
that wanted something else.
Now we're having
to pay with it,
pay for it.
Let the developers know
that we cannot be bought
here in Northern California,
that we are not
Southern California.
We have,
we will look like
Los Angeles,
Los Angeles.
We will be having
one city
butt up against
another city.
And so I definitely
don't want to see that.
And we are intruding
or invading
the land
of the wildlife animals
that live in that land,
on that land.
So I don't think
we have a right
to take away
their land
from them like that.
Thank you for your time.
Thank you.
How's everyone doing?
I'm Daniel Garcia.
I'm a proud member
of Labor's Local 185
and a resident
of Sacramento
for over 30 years.
This property
is strategically
positioned for
industrial development
with easy access
to major highways
and the international airport.
This project
will create
enormous job opportunities
during construction
and long-term operations,
strengthening our region's
economic stability
for everyone.
This project
stands to benefit
not only
my union brothers,
but also other members
of our community.
It will provide
opportunities for
apprentices eager
to build their careers,
young people entering
the trades,
formerly incarcerated
individuals,
and returning veterans
from service
looking for a second chance.
And I know this
because I was once
in their position.
But thanks to the union,
I was able to turn
my life around.
The union gave me
the structure and support
I needed to build
a better future
for my family.
However,
success in this industry
often comes for sacrifice.
As I spent years
commuting for work
outside of my local area,
losing valuable time
with my family
and loved ones
that I can't get back.
But I believe
we can create
better opportunities
for others
and minimize these sacrifices.
As board members,
you have the opportunity
to bring good,
well-paying jobs
to closer to home
and improve the lives
of countless hardworking
families in our community.
So once again,
I respectfully urge you
to move forward
with this project
without delay.
Thank you.
Good evening,
Chair,
Commissioners.
My name is
Alexander Hampton.
I am a member
for Local 46.
I've been a 17-year member.
I've lived in Sacramento
since 1978
and I work
in the vicinity
of this project
and I'm very familiar
with the area.
There is a serious problem
in Sacramento.
Contractors
not from Sacramento area
come here to build
and exploit workers
by not paying
the workers' area standards,
not giving them
mandatory breaks,
and many more problems
that exist on the projects.
In this project,
there has been
no commitment
from the applicant
to hire local contractors
and workers
from the community
that are involved
in the state-approved
apprenticeship program.
The city of Sacramento
should require
the project
to be built
by contractors
that local hire me
and have paid
pervading wage,
utilize apprenticeships
from state-certified
apprenticeship programs
and require health care.
By the city
requiring that,
those conditions
in this project,
not only will the projects
be built on time
and on budget,
this will create
job opportunities
for residents
that live in the area
and it will benefit
the community
and it's a win
for everyone.
Thank you very much
for allowing me
to speak tonight.
to speak tonight.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Am I next?
So I have Ralph Proper
followed by B. Terry Burns.
Okay, yes.
I'm a board member
of Breith, California,
Sacramento region
and I'm speaking
on their behalf today.
I'm a retired air pollution
research specialist
at the Air Resources Board
where I worked
for over 30 years.
I'm also a retired
chemistry professor
at UC Davis
and I have graduate degrees
in chemistry
as well as public health.
I've published scientific papers
on toxic air contaminants
including cancer-causing
diesel exhaust.
The EIR calculates
a risk of cancer cases,
excess cancer cases
just under the threshold
for mitigation
of 10 million.
I might add
that there's a lot
of emissions
cancer-causing
that come from
airport activities
as well
from the take-offs nearby.
However,
that assumes
that there's no development
in parcel 8
which is closest
to the elementary school.
The EIR states
if parcel 8
is developed
at over 100 trucks a day
then they'll analyze that.
Children are especially
sensitive to air pollution.
They inhale
far more relative
to lung volume
than we do
as adults.
Health studies show
that inhaling fine particles
prevents full lung development
leading to permanent
shortness of breath
and increased asthma incidence.
And the ultrafine particles
that result too
are especially bad.
A thin buffer
is now proposed
between porcelain
and the school.
Sacramento was involved
in research
at Arden Middle School
that showed
that if you have a buffer
with tall evergreen trees
like redwoods
that could help capture
the fine particles.
However,
this proposed
treeless buffer
would not prevent
toxic diesel particles
from getting deep
into the children's lungs
and affecting them
for the rest of their lives.
The EIR claims
that assuming zero
toxic emissions
from parcel 8
is appropriate
because it's
a non-participating parcel.
However,
the parcel's existing
M8 zoning
allows warehouse uses
as a matter of right.
Such use clearly involves
significant truck movement
and so such discretionary
approval would be required.
No, I'm sorry,
no such discretionary approval
would be required.
The city really wants
to ensure that porcelain
is analyzed in the future
and can zone all of it
or a significant portion
as open space.
The EIR finds
that the project
is unable to mitigate
to less than significant
its air quality impacts.
It would jeopardize
the long health
of many children
and jeopardize
the air quality improvements
which have over many years.
You are being asked
to recommend
to the city council
that they approve
a resolution
of this project
and I'll quote,
promotes the public health
of the city.
Please let us know
what about this proposed project
promotes the public health
of the city,
including the children.
The EIR clearly demonstrates
otherwise.
Thank you.
Good evening.
I'm Terry Burns.
I'm a former 33-year board member
of the Natomas School District
and I was involved
in the siting
of the Paso Verde School.
In the tour
that you were given,
you didn't see the school.
The school is proposed
to be a 200-foot buffer.
That's less than 70 yards.
When we cited that school,
we worked on good faith
with the Habitat Conservation Plan,
the Natomas Community Plan,
the Urban Services Boundary,
that that area around there
would continue to be agricultural,
environmental,
and we designed the school
with an environmental education focus.
That was our purpose
for the school.
Had we thought
that there would be warehousing
immediately adjacent
to the school,
we might have completely
rethought the location,
both for the health reasons cited
and safety reasons
of people coming and going
who could easily find
their way on campus.
So for those reasons,
I have very strong concerns
about the plan.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you all for your comment.
Our next set of speakers
are Heather Fargo,
Judith Lemaire,
Susan H.,
Rob Burnis,
and Jim P.
I'm going to need the overhead.
Since we weren't able
to give you our PowerPoint
that we had requested,
the very least you can do
is look at the map.
Good evening.
My name is Heather Fargo,
and like all of you,
I am tired.
I'm sorry,
I forgot to hand these out.
Would you give these
to the commissioners
and ask them to pass them around?
This is a small version
of the map I'm trying to show you.
I don't know how to make this work.
I was told I could do it.
Okay, I'll wait for the map
to be passed around instead.
My name is Heather Fargo.
I am currently the president
of the Environmental Council
of Sacramento.
I am also a former mayor
of Sacramento,
and in fact was mayor
when the Natomas Habitat
Conservation Plan was approved.
I took it very seriously then.
I take it very seriously now.
I also served on the city council
prior to that for 11 years.
I have to start by saying
that we feel very disrespected tonight.
The fact that you're starting
public testimony at 11 o'clock p.m.
Half of our speakers have gone home
either because they had to work tomorrow
or because they were tired
or needed transportation or whatever.
So I just want you to know that.
We understand that the system
is stacked against us.
You've made that very clear tonight.
But we're going to continue
to give our testimony anyway.
We are very opposed to this project,
and we hope you'll do the same.
In the short time
that I have to speak with you,
I was hoping to be able to give you
a little bit of context,
which is what the map is about.
What you can see in this map
is the Natomas Basin.
Staff has not talked to you
about a number of issues,
which we think they should have covered,
one of which is the fact that
we submitted a lot of written testimony
to the city,
and none of that was in your staff report.
We were at LAFCO a few weeks ago,
and we had a four-hour-long hearing.
We had over 60 speakers,
hundreds of pages of testimony,
and you received none of that.
We have a petition signed by 1,100 people
in opposing this project,
and we want you to know that,
that we are speaking for a lot of people,
not just the Environmental Council of Sacramento.
There are two larger projects
coming up behind this project.
One is called Upper West Side,
and one is called Grand Park.
These will be standalone communities.
The smaller is the size of Galt,
the larger is the size of two Galt's.
And this particular project
that you're looking at today,
the Airport South Industrial Project,
is the first of those three projects,
totaling 8,000 acres
of potential paving of Natomas farmland,
land which,
per the Natomas Basin Habitat Conservation Plan,
a contract between the city
and the state and federal wildlife agencies,
requires that this land be an open space,
that it stay in agriculture,
and it requires that the city
not go beyond the permitted acres,
permitted acres that have been approved,
and this project goes beyond that.
Yes, the city can bust through
the urban services boundary line,
and I'm sorry it's tweaking.
I can't make it stop.
But this project is counter to every plan
that has been done for this area
for the last 20 years.
Thank you for your comment.
Your time is now up.
Can I put my mic for a moment?
Yeah, I'll actually have some follow-up questions
for Heather afterwards,
so she'll have a chance to speak some more.
Mr. Chair?
Yes.
Just a point of clarification.
It is very late,
and I know we're all kind of tired.
And as I shared with you,
I have to be on the road at 6.30 a.m. this morning,
so I kind of was troubled that we had such a,
well, two obviously significant controversial projects,
and I'd hope that perhaps in the future
maybe we could be cognizant of how scheduling goes.
I don't know if it's better,
and I may inflame those on this dais
or perhaps others in the audience,
but one I think we should have
or should perhaps ask
whether those who are opposed to it
would prefer that we put this item over,
or is it too late to do that?
We contemplated whether or not to do that
earlier in the evening,
and we decided to plow through.
So, but on the other hand,
if we're not going to,
I mean, if that isn't the desire of the opposition,
and I want to give some deference to our former mayor,
I mean, honestly, two minutes,
you know, we gave the proponents of that other project
two, three, four, five bites at the apple.
So I would just say if there's no objection,
perhaps allow the mayor more time if she desires,
but I think we have to be fair on the time
that we stretched the rules for a very long project
and endured a lot in that conversation,
and I think at a minimum,
we should either ask those who are opposed
whether they would prefer putting this over,
which I suspect not, nor would you guys,
but in lieu of that, perhaps give them more time.
Thank you.
Commissioner Nybo?
I just wanted to say that I concur.
Okay.
Yeah.
It was my intention, actually,
to give the former mayor more time.
So I've already spoken with her before
that, you know, we're going to,
I have some more questions that I wanted to know.
However, that said,
I think that there are quite a few members
that you had mentioned who needed to take off,
and what is your thoughts on this?
Is this something that you feel like
you want to continue this
and hear more from those folks?
Our preference would be to continue the item.
We would have appreciated you continue it
sometime in the middle of the Curtis Park event,
but now that we're here at 1130 at night,
I think you should continue this item.
I don't think it's fair to you as commissioners
to endure what you've endured.
This is a really complicated project.
This is a hell of a lot more complicated
than the Curtis Park project.
This is, it has many other agencies involved.
You have opposition from many more people,
from many more diverse points of view.
We are not, as ECOS, opposed to jobs.
We're not opposed to warehousing.
We're not opposed to development.
But we believe in good planning,
and we believe in a good planning process,
and this is not it.
Understood.
I'm going to do all the best.
Okay.
Leslie?
Are you wanting to make a motion?
I would offer to make a motion
to put this over to our next meeting,
if at all possible.
I'd have to close public comment to do that.
I defer to you to figure that out.
But if there's no second,
then it's a moot question.
Leslie?
I don't think you need to close public comment.
I think we would continue the meeting
to continue public comment.
Okay.
I'm sorry, but I just think we have to.
Yeah, well, I'm fried also.
So, I mean, I think everyone, you know,
I think this item deserves our highest
and utmost mind, brain power to,
I can't even speak straight.
Yeah.
To analyze this.
So, yeah.
You should close public comment.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to change my mind on that.
Oh, okay.
We're going to close.
We're going to open it.
It's just for tonight to be able to continue it.
When we bring the item back,
we'll still have more public comment time.
Yes.
So, close public comment for the evening
and then move to continue
and then reopen public comment at our next meeting.
Right.
Okay.
That would be my motion.
That's your motion.
Do I have a second?
You have people in the queue.
I have a...
Commissioner Lee?
Yeah, I have a note.
I do also want to point out
that there are about 90-plus e-comments online.
So, if we can carry that forward
to the next meeting as well.
How would we do that?
If it just stay...
If it was preserved in the...
Okay.
And I would like to...
I apologize if procedurally I shouldn't do this,
but I'm going to do it.
If there is somehow a sense
that information was provided to this body
that wasn't loaded up to us
either as documents on the item
and or...
If it's allowed,
please let's find out
whether or not they could be resubmitted
on both sides of the issue
so that we...
That we're not missing input
that may be relevant
to our decision-making process.
I would probably want the planning staff
to respond to that.
Yeah, I don't...
The assertion that somehow
information was provided
to the planning commission
that was not submitted in our packet.
I don't know what the materials are.
I apologize,
but it was a statement.
Yeah, all information that we've received,
we've been forwarding
to the city clerk's office
and they've been posting it
on e-comments.
There's also another...
A lot of response to comments
that were part of the EIR,
which could be of reference
from the former mayor.
So it's all...
It's posted in...
It's all in the e-comments
and that's the appropriate place
for them to be.
Yes, that is...
I forward them
to the city clerk's office
and they post them on e-comments.
Thank you for clarifying that.
Okay.
Vice Chair Chase.
Vice Chair Chase.
Thank you, Chair.
I'd like to second the motion
by Commissioner Ortiz.
And I think our former mayor
is correct.
This is a big issue
and to start at it,
you know,
heading on to midnight
is just not fair to any of us,
including the project.
So I apologize to all
that it's taken us this long
to think about continuing it.
Probably should have done
that much earlier,
but I think to keep going,
at this point,
it's just going to wipe everybody out
and probably not get a fair analysis
from each of us.
So with that,
I think I would agree.
I would second
and agree that we continue the autumn.
Okay.
Can I just have a point of clarification?
Do we know a date
when we could continue this too
or are we going to re-notice it?
The next meeting date
is June 26th.
There are six items
already scheduled
for that agenda.
I just want to
put that out there.
No, we know
we finalized that one.
Which is not to say
we couldn't do some agenda management
to try to figure it out.
But that's the next meeting
and then after that
is August 14th.
Okay.
Does...
I want to be sensitive
to the applicant also.
Are there any sort of
deadlines, timelines,
time constraints
that you're under
that would jeopardize
the viability of the project?
Before I answer the question,
I want to say
I'm sensitive to the concerns here,
but we also have supporters
that are here this evening
that stayed through
the evening as well.
It's not an easy issue.
I grant you this
and we're all delirious.
I get it.
I mean,
it's 1130.
But, you know,
the continuing...
This project has significant
carry costs,
obviously, for us
and we have project timelines
to meet those expectations.
Now, yeah,
is the project
going to be withdrawn
because we're continuing to June?
I can't tell.
That's not true, right?
So our preference is not,
obviously,
but, I mean,
certainly we have people
here this evening
that I don't know
if they can make it
at the next meeting.
It sounds like the 26th
we might be in the same position
we're in today.
So, you know,
if there's six items
on that agenda.
So I just want to be cognizant.
I certainly don't want
to delay to August.
That's many, many months
from now.
So not an enviable position
that you're in as a body,
but those are my comments.
Thank you.
Okay.
Will the clerk
do a roll call
for continuing this item
to the next meeting?
And sure,
just for the record,
is that for June 26th?
Correct.
I have a question.
Sorry.
I have a question for staff
in terms of scheduling meetings.
I don't know if it's been done
before with this commission,
but is there an option
to do a special meeting?
We can examine it,
but we wouldn't have
that information for you tonight.
Okay.
Vice Chair Chase.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Just if that's not an option,
is it an option for an item
that's continued to become
the first item
in the next meeting
so that they're not
sitting around all night
waiting for us to get to it?
The Chair has the discretion
to reorder the items
on the agenda
as they see fit.
Thank you.
We'll make sure it happens.
Thank you.
Are the Chair ready
to take a roll call vote?
Yep.
All right.
Commissioners, please unmute.
Commissioner Lee.
Aye.
Commissioner Lamas.
Aye.
Commissioner Naibo.
Aye.
Commissioner Caden is absent.
Commissioner Hernandez.
Aye.
Commissioner Macias-Reed
is absent.
Commissioner Ortiz.
Aye.
Commissioner Blunt.
Aye.
Vice Chair Chase.
Aye.
Commissioner Rischke.
Aye.
Commissioner Thompson
is absent.
And Chair Young.
Aye.
Thank you.
The motion passes.
All right.
Let's move on
with the remaining parts
of the agenda.
Next item is...
Aye.
Member comments,
ideas, questions,
and meeting conference report.
Are there any commissioners
who wish to speak
on this item?
No.
No.
All right.
Clerk,
are there any members
of the public
who wish to speak
on public comments
matters not on the agenda?
Thank you, Chair.
I have one public...
Excuse me.
I have one speaker slip
for matters not on the agenda.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Chair
and members.
I appreciate all of your comments
about adjourning the meeting.
I'll share with you
that the Natoma School Board
has for many years
had a standing bylaw
that says
that without unanimous consent
of the board,
we adjourn the meeting
at 10 p.m.
and we do that
and we do that
for the reasons
you suggested.
It is not a public meeting
after 10 o'clock.
People have to go home
and go to work.
People have to go home
and take care of their kids
and I, for one,
as a board member
was not particularly
making my best decisions
at midnight.
So, I just submit that
for your consideration
for future time.
Thank you for your time.
I appreciate all of your insight.
Thank you.
Thank you for your comment, Chair.
I have no more speaker slips
on this item.
Okay.
That concludes today's agenda.
Meeting is adjourned.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Discussion Breakdown
Summary
Sacramento Planning & Design Commission Meeting - May 22, 2025
The Planning & Design Commission held a lengthy meeting from 5:30 PM until nearly midnight, addressing several significant development proposals and planning items.
Opening and Administrative Items
- Roll call established quorum with 11 commissioners present and 1 absent
- Land acknowledgment and Pledge of Allegiance conducted
- Consent calendar approved unanimously
Key Project Reviews
-
Florin Road Storage Facility (P24-036)
- Approved 82,000 sq ft storage facility
- Located at Florin Road/Freeport Blvd
- Includes removal of 14 protected trees
- Passed unanimously
-
Caliber Collision (P25-002)
- Approved expansion of auto service facility at 1801 21st Street
- 6,000 sq ft existing building space
- Passed unanimously
-
Cotton Lane Apartments (P24-022)
- Approved 54-unit apartment complex
- Required rezoning from R-1A to R-3A
- Located near Cosumnes River College
- Passed unanimously despite some community concerns about parking and flooding
-
Crocker Village Residential Development (P24-028)
- Highly contentious 4+ hour discussion
- Commission approved staff recommendation to:
- Approve 31 single-family homes on flex parcel
- Deny rezoning of multi-parcel from multi-family to single-family
- Extensive public comment from ~40 speakers
- Passed unanimously after significant debate
-
Airport South Industrial Annexation (P21-017)
- Major 447-acre annexation and industrial development proposal
- Due to late hour (~11:30 PM), item continued to June 26th meeting
- Commission acknowledged complexity warranted fresh review
Public Comments & Discussion
- Significant public participation throughout meeting
- Multiple speakers on each major item
- Commission emphasized importance of housing diversity and transit-oriented development
- Meeting ran much longer than typical, highlighting need for agenda management
Key Outcomes
- Four major development projects approved
- One significant project continued
- Strong emphasis on maintaining multi-family zoning near transit
- Recognition of need to better manage meeting length and public participation
- Next meeting scheduled for June 26th, 2025
Meeting Transcript
Good evening. Can you hear me? All right. Welcome to the May 22, 2025 Planning and Design Commission meeting. The meeting is now called to order. Will the clerk please call the roll to establish a quorum? Thank you, Chair. Commissioners, please unmute. Commissioner Lee? Here. Commissioner Lamas? Here. Commissioner Naibo? Here. Commissioner Caden? Here. Commissioner Hernandez? Is absent. Commissioner Mosses-Reed? Here. Commissioner Ortiz? Here. Commissioner Blunt? Here. Vice Chair Chase? Here. Commissioner Risky? Here. Commissioner Thompson? Is absent. And Chair Young? Here. Thank you. We have a quorum. Thank you. I would like to remind members of the public in chambers that if you would like to speak on an agenda item, please turn in a speaker slip when the item begins. You will have three minutes to speak once you are called on. After the first speaker, we will no longer accept speaker slips. We will now proceed with today's agenda. Please rise for the opening acknowledgments in honor of Sacramento's indigenous people and tribal lands. To the original people of this land, the Nisanan people, the Southern Maidu, Valley and Plains Miwok, Patwin-Wintoon peoples, and the people of the Wilton Rancheria, Sacramento's only federally recognized tribe, may we acknowledge and honor the native people who came before us and still walk beside us today on these ancestral lands by choosing to gather together today in the active practice of acknowledgement and appreciation for Sacramento's indigenous people's history, contributions, and lives. Please remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for