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Sacramento Preservation Commission Meeting - February 21, 2018

Preservation Commission — Wednesday, February 21, 2018
BodySacramento, California
SessionPreservation Commission
DateWednesday, February 21, 2018
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2018 meeting of the city's City of Sacramento's Preservation Commission is called to order.

0:05

Before we start, I'll review procedures.

0:07

Copies of the agenda for tonight's meeting are in the kiosk just outside the door.

0:12

And note that there were some changes to the agenda and it's now posted as a special meeting agenda.

0:18

The Commission will refer to each item uh in the order provided on the agenda.

0:23

And to my knowledge, at this point, there are no changes to the agenda, other than what you see in the special meeting agenda.

0:31

Each item in the public hearing portion of the meeting will begin with first a brief presentation by staff, followed by questions of staff by the commission.

0:41

If there's an applicant for the item, there will be a presentation by the applicant if they choose, followed by questions of the applicant from the commission, and then opportunity for public comments.

0:51

Speaker forms for members of the public are on the table at the back of the room.

0:56

If you would like to speak, please fill out a form.

0:59

Note the agenda item number on which you would like to speak and bring it up to the clerk at the left of the dais.

1:05

You'll be called to speak at the appropriate time, and there's normally a three-minute limit to public comments.

1:12

Members of the audience may also address the commission on items that are not on the agenda, and that's heard under item four.

1:20

Public comments matters not on the agenda.

1:23

But this time I'll ask that you please turn off uh all cell phones or make them silent.

1:28

Anything else that makes noise, and we'll proceed now with the agenda.

1:33

Roll call, please.

1:36

Commissioner Abrahams.

1:39

Commissioner Bounds.

1:41

Here.

1:42

Commissioner Ryan.

1:44

Here.

1:45

Commissioner Moffitt.

1:46

Here.

1:48

Commissioner Volania.

1:50

Commissioner Whitlam.

1:51

Here.

1:52

And Chair Marshak.

1:54

Here.

1:56

Very good.

1:59

First item on our agenda is the consent calendar, which can s contains three different three uh separate sub-items, which I think we should do separately.

2:08

And so first uh welcoming new Commissioner member Ryan Miller, uh, our structural engineer on the commission, and uh introduction by Carson Anderson.

2:20

We're delighted to have uh a new commission member in the structural engineering field of expertise.

2:26

Ryan is uh staff member with Bueller and Bueller and has worked closely with Eric Fuller, who is the uh previous commissioner holding the seat, has a superb training in civil engineering from Cal Poly San Luis Abispo and has worked with Bueller and Bueller here for I believe it is about 13 years, 14 years.

2:48

So welcomed addition to the Commission.

2:51

Thank you.

2:52

Very good.

2:52

Welcome, Ryan.

2:53

Um would you like to make any remarks?

2:58

Okay, very good.

3:01

All right.

3:01

Uh next item on the agenda is approval of the minutes of the January 21st meeting uh of the commission.

3:09

And uh do we have any comments on the notes that were provided in the agenda packet?

3:18

Commissioner Whitelamb.

3:20

Um I'm fine with the minutes, but I had a uh a question.

3:24

Um I remember on item five that we talked about, which was the item on the U.S.

3:30

General Services building, um we talked about the possibility of um the city um uh going through the nomination process to have that placed on the city regist on the city register.

3:43

And I understand that our we didn't take like a formal motion, and so I understand that the minutes, you know, just will say reviewed and comments received.

3:52

If we you know are prospectively, if we are like going to be like maybe requesting um an item for staff to be looking into, would it have been appropriate even if we didn't have a motion for me under the member comments to have said something, and then could that have been reflected in the minutes if it's like a request like that?

4:17

I just am always concerned that things get lost in the you know shuffle, and I know we can always go back and read the or watch the video.

4:27

Um but I'm also I'm also understand that the purpose of these minutes is to be just very tight, you know.

4:36

So it's just a question prospectively if we could consider that.

4:42

Typically, if the commission wants staff to take an action to proceed with a nomination, it's best practice to make a motion to that effect, and that is something that we can agendize at the uh March meeting.

5:02

I I would I would like to do that just so that we're I mean I have I for one and maybe you could let us know you know what the costs are involved in doing that process.

5:11

I know we can't just be doing things willy-nilly.

5:13

So if we put it on as an agenda item in that way, then um you could let us know what the cost implications are and and would this better be discussed under item number 11, member comments, ideas, questions, and right, right.

5:28

So the minutes are fine.

5:29

The minutes are fine.

5:30

But I forget things if I don't deal with them you know in the moment.

5:33

So thank you.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Historic Preservation█████████████████████████████████████████████54%
Procedural██████████12%
Legal██████7%
Urban Design█████6%
Mills Act Program████5%
Planning and Zoning███4%
Public Comments███3%
Community Engagement███3%
Architecture██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Sacramento Preservation Commission Meeting - February 21, 2018

The Sacramento Preservation Commission held a special meeting on February 21, 2018, at 5:30 p.m. in City Hall Council Chamber. The meeting covered a consent calendar, public comments, two public hearings, staff reports on urban design guidelines and the Mills Act program, and annual elections. Key decisions included continuing a delisting proposal, approving a historic district expansion with amendments, and forwarding comments on design guidelines.

Consent Calendar

  • Welcome New Commissioner Ryan Miller: Received and filed.
  • Approval of Minutes (January 21, 2018): Approved 6:0:2 (Abstain: Miller; Absent: Abrahams).
  • Amend 2018 Meeting Calendar: Rescheduled September 12, 2018 meeting to September 5, 2018; approved 7:0:1 (Absent: Abrahams).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • William Burg (Preservation Sacramento President): Presented the 2017 annual report and announced upcoming preservation events on March 3 and March 6, 2018.

Discussion Items

  • Item 5: M17-021 – 318 U Street Delisting: Staff recommended delisting due to loss of integrity from modifications predating 1985. Commissioners debated whether the property was a retrievable resource and raised concerns about precedent. A motion to continue the item to the March 21, 2018 meeting for further research on modification history and findings passed 7:0:1 (Absent: Abrahams).
  • Item 6: M18-001 – Winn Park Historic District Expansion: Staff recommended adding three properties (1616, 1620, 1624 21st Street) as contributing resources. Public speakers (Margaret Buss, Vivian Gerlach, William Burg, Sue Mortensen, Bernard Cody, J. Mickie Priest) expressed strong support. Commissioners discussed boundary justification and character-defining features. Motion to adopt staff recommendations with amendments (including robust boundary justification, correction of address and map errors, and addition of character-defining features) passed 7:0:1 (Absent: Abrahams).
  • Item 7: Review Draft Update to Central City Urban Design Guidelines (CCNDG): Commissioners raised concerns about insufficient detail, lack of clarity, removal of specific guidelines, and need for better integration with preservation standards. Motion to direct Chair Marshak to craft a letter summarizing concerns to the Planning and Design Commission passed 7:0:1 (Absent: Abrahams).
  • Item 8: Final Draft Mills Act Program Administrative Framework: Staff presented revised fee schedule and scoring criteria. Commissioners expressed support but noted inconsistencies in documents and requested further refinement. Motion to support the Mills Act program, approve the fee schedule (Category 1: $700; Category 2: $1,500 flat; annual inspection: $350/$925), and forward the fee schedule to City Council, with details to be completed by staff and reviewed at a future meeting, passed 7:0:1 (Absent: Abrahams).
  • Item 9: Annual Elections for Chair and Vice-Chair: Motion to re-elect Chair Jon Marshack and Vice-Chair Jacqueline Whitelam passed 7:0:0 (Absent: Abrahams).
  • Item 10: Director’s Report: Director Anderson noted staff reorganization, upcoming General Plan update (including potential historic survey updates), and an open house for GPA Consulting.
  • Item 11: Member Comments: Commissioner Whitelam highlighted a CPF webinar on April 10, 2018, titled "Playing Well Together: Coordinating Specific Plans, Zoning Codes, and Preservation Guidelines." Commissioner Miller announced a planned absence for the March meeting.

Key Outcomes

  • Item 5 Continued: The 318 U Street delisting hearing was continued to March 21, 2018, to allow staff to research the history of modifications and draft findings regarding the pre-1985 condition.
  • Item 6 Approved: The Winn Park Historic District expansion was approved with amendments to include a robust boundary justification, corrected map and address errors, and updated character-defining features for the three properties.
  • Item 7 Letter to PDC: Chair Marshak was directed to write a letter to the Planning and Design Commission summarizing the Commission's concerns about the draft CCNDG, including the need for detailed guidelines, correction of internal inconsistencies, and inclusion of mid-century modern style examples.
  • Item 8 Mills Act Supported: The Commission wholeheartedly supported the Mills Act program, approved the proposed fee schedule, and forwarded it to the City Council. The administrative framework details were to be finalized by staff with review and comment from the Commission at a future meeting.
  • Item 9 Re-elected: Chair Jon Marshack and Vice-Chair Jacqueline Whitelam were re-elected for the coming year.
  • Adjournment: The meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.

Meeting Transcript

2018 meeting of the city's City of Sacramento's Preservation Commission is called to order. Before we start, I'll review procedures. Copies of the agenda for tonight's meeting are in the kiosk just outside the door. And note that there were some changes to the agenda and it's now posted as a special meeting agenda. The Commission will refer to each item uh in the order provided on the agenda. And to my knowledge, at this point, there are no changes to the agenda, other than what you see in the special meeting agenda. Each item in the public hearing portion of the meeting will begin with first a brief presentation by staff, followed by questions of staff by the commission. If there's an applicant for the item, there will be a presentation by the applicant if they choose, followed by questions of the applicant from the commission, and then opportunity for public comments. Speaker forms for members of the public are on the table at the back of the room. If you would like to speak, please fill out a form. Note the agenda item number on which you would like to speak and bring it up to the clerk at the left of the dais. You'll be called to speak at the appropriate time, and there's normally a three-minute limit to public comments. Members of the audience may also address the commission on items that are not on the agenda, and that's heard under item four. Public comments matters not on the agenda. But this time I'll ask that you please turn off uh all cell phones or make them silent. Anything else that makes noise, and we'll proceed now with the agenda. Roll call, please. Commissioner Abrahams. Commissioner Bounds. Here. Commissioner Ryan. Here. Commissioner Moffitt. Here. Commissioner Volania. Commissioner Whitlam. Here. And Chair Marshak. Here. Very good. First item on our agenda is the consent calendar, which can s contains three different three uh separate sub-items, which I think we should do separately. And so first uh welcoming new Commissioner member Ryan Miller, uh, our structural engineer on the commission, and uh introduction by Carson Anderson. We're delighted to have uh a new commission member in the structural engineering field of expertise. Ryan is uh staff member with Bueller and Bueller and has worked closely with Eric Fuller, who is the uh previous commissioner holding the seat, has a superb training in civil engineering from Cal Poly San Luis Abispo and has worked with Bueller and Bueller here for I believe it is about 13 years, 14 years. So welcomed addition to the Commission. Thank you. Very good. Welcome, Ryan. Um would you like to make any remarks? Okay, very good. All right. Uh next item on the agenda is approval of the minutes of the January 21st meeting uh of the commission. And uh do we have any comments on the notes that were provided in the agenda packet? Commissioner Whitelamb. Um I'm fine with the minutes, but I had a uh a question. Um I remember on item five that we talked about, which was the item on the U.S. General Services building, um we talked about the possibility of um the city um uh going through the nomination process to have that placed on the city regist on the city register. And I understand that our we didn't take like a formal motion, and so I understand that the minutes, you know, just will say reviewed and comments received. If we you know are prospectively, if we are like going to be like maybe requesting um an item for staff to be looking into, would it have been appropriate even if we didn't have a motion for me under the member comments to have said something, and then could that have been reflected in the minutes if it's like a request like that? I just am always concerned that things get lost in the you know shuffle, and I know we can always go back and read the or watch the video.

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