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Utilities Rate Advisory Commission Meeting - December 15, 2011

Utilities Rate Advisory CommissionThursday, December 15, 2011
BodySacramento, California
SessionUtilities Rate Advisory Commission
DateThursday, December 15, 2011
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0:04

Okay, this evening's meeting of the Utilities Rate Advisory Commission will come to order at 6.33 p.m.

0:13

Seems that we have a quorum, but I shall ask for the road to be called see.

0:20

Mr.

0:20

Brown?

0:22

Mr.

0:23

Douglas Brown?

0:24

Mr.

0:25

Dunley Veeam?

0:27

Ms.

0:28

McBride?

0:29

Here.

0:30

Mr.

0:30

Schubert?

0:31

Here.

0:32

Ms.

0:32

Vilhunter.

0:34

Chair Alchabald.

0:36

Here.

0:37

Okay.

0:38

We have a quorum.

0:40

Okay, very well.

0:43

Without delay, we'll move on to our one action item tonight.

0:47

Approval of the minutes from November 14th.

0:51

Does anybody and recommendation is to approve those minutes?

0:54

Does anybody have uh a motion to do so?

1:01

I would like to make a motion that we approve the minutes from the president.

1:04

Mr.

1:05

Dunley moves.

1:07

Second.

1:08

It is seconded.

1:11

And please call the roll.

1:15

I can do a voice vote.

1:16

All in paper say aye.

1:17

Aye.

1:17

Aye.

1:18

All opposed.

1:19

Great.

1:20

Thank you.

1:22

Tonight, the Commission will be hearing from the Department on various rate proposal scenarios, budgetary scenarios.

1:32

So I hope to uh that we do a lot of listening tonight and have some good questions.

1:37

I I believe we'll also be hearing from uh important members of the community and um both business and residential, perhaps, and also from uh consultants who work with the city.

1:50

So who will begin?

1:52

Mr.

1:52

Brent.

1:55

Good evening, Chairman Archibald, the members of the Commission, Dave Brent, uh interim director for Department of Utilities, and and thank you for having this meeting tonight.

2:04

We um are we gonna get the PowerPoint going?

2:07

We um we actually wanted to schedule this meeting based on an input we've been getting actually from our water ad hoc committee with City Council and the community as part of our outreach and engagement with the community.

2:20

And one of the topics that came up that we thought was important to address as we go through this rate proposal process was this this idea of a couple things, looking at alternative scenarios in the financing of our proposed program.

2:35

And also it was a very good question was if the rate advisor commission and council adopts this three-year proposal and we go out and start borrowing money, what would happen in year four if Council decided they didn't want to continue?

2:51

Would there be this kind of hangover from having to keep paying raising rates just to pay for the debt that we have incurred?

2:57

And so we want to address that also.

2:59

Again, it was uh we thought it was a very thoughtful comment.

3:02

Again, I have to say we've learned quite a bit in this engagement process we've been in for the last couple months from the community.

3:08

And that was the intent.

3:09

It's for the community to understand our challenges and for us to understand their the concerns.

3:14

So we're gonna quickly go back over, and we know we've presented this to you already, so I'll be very quick with my part, and then FCS, Rob Grantham, and and uh and Matt Mullen are going to be here to present the alternatives.

3:27

So just real quickly, as we presented last time, what we've done as a department is we've looked on the water and our sewer side at a 30-year plan, if you will, to invest in our infrastructure in the city and it on a couple of levels.

3:43

One is regulatory compliance, and the other is getting into this best practices program on replacement.

3:49

If you'll recall, currently our our pace is to replace our sewer system every six hundred and fifty years and our water system every 400.

3:57

Our plan is to bring that up to a one in a hundred year replacement cycle.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Comments████████████████████████24%
Utilities████████████████16%
Budget and Finance████████████12%
Wastewater Program████████████12%
Procedural██████████10%
Infrastructure█████████9%
Public Works██████6%
Public Hearing█████5%
Water Management███3%
Summary of Proceedings

Utilities Rate Advisory Commission Meeting - December 15, 2011

The Utilities Rate Advisory Commission met on December 15, 2011, at 6:33 p.m. to discuss proposed rate adjustments and alternative rate scenarios for water and wastewater services. The commission heard a detailed presentation from Department of Utilities staff and consultants, received public comments from residents and business representatives, and deliberated on next steps ahead of a public hearing scheduled for January 25, 2012.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of Minutes for November 14, 2011: The commission unanimously approved the minutes from the previous meeting.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Joan Barden (lifelong Sacramento resident): Expressed concern about the impact of rate increases on elderly, disabled, and low-income homeowners, noting that her entire Social Security goes to her mortgage. She urged the commission to consider a sliding scale or assistance program and invited commissioners to the Oak Park Neighborhood Association meetings.
  • Michael Fowles (Sacramento Business Coalition): Representing 27 business organizations, he requested that the commission slow down the process to allow for more detailed analysis. He called for an independent review of infrastructure deficiencies, a comprehensive financing plan with limited use of debt, and a clear project timeline. He also noted the city's general fund is approaching its debt capacity and expressed concern about shifting debt to the utility enterprise fund.
  • Kevin Green (Downtown Sacramento Partnership): Asked for more information on commercial rate impacts and strongly recommended that the city council redirect the 11% general fund tax on utility rates back to infrastructure projects.
  • Greg Hatfield (IN Sacramento): Warned the commission not to be a rubber stamp and urged listening to the community. He expressed concern that the three-year rate proposal is a “foot in the door” for long-term bond debt, and questioned the necessity of some capital projects given the relatively low leak rates shown in utility maps.

Discussion Items

  • Proposed Rate Adjustments and Alternative Rate Scenarios: Staff presented a three-year rate proposal (water: 10% per year; wastewater: 16%, 15%, 14%) along with alternative scenarios (delaying best practices, delaying the water treatment plant, and a “do nothing” path). Consultants explained the trade-offs between pay-as-you-go and debt financing, emphasizing that debt allows for intergenerational equity. The commission discussed the potential for future rate increases beyond the three-year period, the possibility of a balloon payment (which staff said does not exist), and the impact of labor contract assumptions. A key concern was the 11% general fund tax on utility revenues, which some suggested should be redirected to capital projects. The city attorney clarified that the commission can recommend such a change but that the tax is voter-approved and subject to council discretion.
  • Request for Additional Information: Commissioners asked for more detailed data on the impact of rate increases on different business types (top five categories) and a comparison of Sacramento’s replacement schedules to those of similar older cities (e.g., Kansas City, St. Louis, Boston). Staff agreed to provide this information at a future meeting.

Key Outcomes

  • The commission will hold an additional meeting before the January 25 public hearing to review requested data and continue deliberation. (Staff will work to schedule a date.)
  • Chair Archibald announced his intention to step down as chair at the next meeting, asking commissioners to consider a new chair.
  • The commission’s final recommendation to the city council is expected after the January 25 hearing, with the council vote likely in February 2012 and rates effective July 1, 2012.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, this evening's meeting of the Utilities Rate Advisory Commission will come to order at 6.33 p.m. Seems that we have a quorum, but I shall ask for the road to be called see. Mr. Brown? Mr. Douglas Brown? Mr. Dunley Veeam? Ms. McBride? Here. Mr. Schubert? Here. Ms. Vilhunter. Chair Alchabald. Here. Okay. We have a quorum. Okay, very well. Without delay, we'll move on to our one action item tonight. Approval of the minutes from November 14th. Does anybody and recommendation is to approve those minutes? Does anybody have uh a motion to do so? I would like to make a motion that we approve the minutes from the president. Mr. Dunley moves. Second. It is seconded. And please call the roll. I can do a voice vote. All in paper say aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed. Great. Thank you. Tonight, the Commission will be hearing from the Department on various rate proposal scenarios, budgetary scenarios. So I hope to uh that we do a lot of listening tonight and have some good questions. I I believe we'll also be hearing from uh important members of the community and um both business and residential, perhaps, and also from uh consultants who work with the city. So who will begin? Mr. Brent. Good evening, Chairman Archibald, the members of the Commission, Dave Brent, uh interim director for Department of Utilities, and and thank you for having this meeting tonight. We um are we gonna get the PowerPoint going? We um we actually wanted to schedule this meeting based on an input we've been getting actually from our water ad hoc committee with City Council and the community as part of our outreach and engagement with the community. And one of the topics that came up that we thought was important to address as we go through this rate proposal process was this this idea of a couple things, looking at alternative scenarios in the financing of our proposed program. And also it was a very good question was if the rate advisor commission and council adopts this three-year proposal and we go out and start borrowing money, what would happen in year four if Council decided they didn't want to continue? Would there be this kind of hangover from having to keep paying raising rates just to pay for the debt that we have incurred?

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