Good morning. Welcome to the December 3, 2024 meeting of the Sacramento County Board of Supervisors.

Would the clerk please call the roll? Yes, good morning. Supervisor Cerna.

Here. Desmond.

Here. Frost.

Hume. Here.

Kennedy. Here.

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of the meeting procedures. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Will you please join me in the Pledge

of Allegiance? Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to

the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice

for all. First item, please. Our first item is public comments relating to matters not

on the posted agenda. Let me get that up for you guys. Our first speaker is Betty.

There's no timer. I'll put it on when you start. Okay. Why am I here? Why do I have

to leave my house and come down here and speak to you? Are we a small group, as CERN

has said on the news on Channel 3, we're just a small fringe group? Or did millions of people

come and vote on November 5th to declare that we are tired of our government, we're tired

of the division of government up here and the people down here? So we're coming into

the houses, the institutions that govern us, and we're holding our leaders accountable.

And our Chair, Patrick Kennedy, says AB 969 is something we must comply with that ties

his hands from manually counting an election, that he's to do nothing when an election is

being counted. If he sees something, nothing can be done, and we must comply with it because

Governor Newsom, who is Governor Newsom, but an elected official? Who is he, someone that

we put into office? He works for us and you work for us, and we're here to stand up against

that. We need leaders that are going to stand up against that that are going to do everything

that they can when they see something like this in place, and they say no, and they push

back, and they say no. And just like in Huntington Beach, where they checked the voter rolls

when it was told it was unlawful, or AB 957 when it says gender affirming a child, cutting

their genitals off is the state standard for the health, safety, and well-being of a child,

we say no. We demand that we have leaders that do this, and if you're not willing to

do that, we will replace you with someone that will. The MAGA Ascendant is rising, and we

will make California great again because we're going to show up, and we're going to demand

leaders that lead and not follow. Not follow along for their careers, not follow along

for what's in their best interest. You serve the people, and we're coming into the houses

that we have allowed you to run wild with for too long. Thank you.

Next speaker. Jim Reeves. Yeah, I'm not. Good morning. On April 27, 1961, President John

F. Kennedy gave a speech entitled, The President and the Press. The following excerpts capture

the essence of this speech. Our way of life is under attack. We are opposed around the

world by a monolithic ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding

its fear of influence on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections,

on intimidation instead of free choice, on gorillas and material resources into the night.

And I lost my place. On gorilla by night instead of by armies by day. It is the system by which

is constricted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly

efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific,

and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes

are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced and not praised. No expenditure

is questioned. No rumor is printed. No secret is revealed. The subversive monolithic conspiracy

was so troubling to JFK that he created the special forces within the military for the

purpose of defending against the globalist. Tragically, President Kennedy was a dissenter

that was silenced. John F. Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963. Donald John Trump promises

to complete John Kennedy's declaration. There had been at least two attempts in his life

within the last year. On July 13, 2024, President Trump was shot in the face near Butler, Pennsylvania

on September 15, 2024. Donald Trump, a former president of the United States and future

president by Electoral College and popular vote in the 2024 presidential election, survived

and an assassination attempt at Temple Golfing at Trump International. I only bring this

up to remind you that there will be a new controlling authority and it's time for self-reflection

and it's time to stand up as a lesser magistrate. Thank you.

Next speaker.

Good morning. My name is Sarah and I'm from District 3 and New California. I want to

thank you first, Supervisor Kennedy, for your response to the cease and desist letter. The

last time we were here, this is an admission in our opinion of the board making it valid

of the facts from that letter. Also, thank you, Supervisor Hume, your acknowledgment

of the flaw of the California one-party executive and legislative branch as they turn a deaf

ear to we the people. Public servants are supposed to represent the people, the people's will,

in the constitutional republic. On November 5th, we chose to engage in our constitutional

duty to vote on the only true election day, not an election season. Board, how could California

call the election for Harris at 8.01 p.m. on November 5th? Why? Why do I ask? I know

of individuals who are still in line waiting to vote in our county at 8.01 p.m. I also personally

know of a poll worker who was transporting thousands of ballots to the R.O.V. office at

8.05 p.m. in Nevada County. There are many other deceptions occurring in other counties

throughout California, still counting, still wondering how huge leads are erased with mysterious

ballot drops well after election day. Yet at 8.01 p.m. on November 5th, California was

called for Harris. This makes no common sense. We have no confidence in California's election

process. Therefore, this board must vote no to certify this election when the time comes.

I ask you, Board, please be courageous and reject this unlawful election process that's

happening in California right now. To vote for it would be complicit in an illegal, unjust,

fraudulent process. I yield the remainder of my time. Thank you.

Next speaker, please. Good morning. Good morning. I come here today to talk about the fact that

we're all residents of this county and we're constituents of this board. And I feel that

the two-minute limit that we have here is very unfair. The fact that you feel you have

no requirement to respond to anything that we say is insulting. We live basically right

now in a failed state. The U.S. Constitution guarantees us a Republican form of government,

which we don't have in California. And so I would encourage you to find another way

to interface with your constituents in this county. And I would encourage you maybe town

halls, for example, quarterly, to give better feedback from your constituents. Thank you.

Next speaker, please. All right. So, like the rest of the speakers so far, we've been calling

it action for weeks and months. And I just wanted to give some presidents for doing so.

So I'm here to discuss the principle fundamental to just governance, the doctrine of lesser

magistrates. The doctrine of lesser magistrates is a guiding principle stating that when higher

authorities issue unconstitutional or immoral mandates, local leaders, lesser magistrates

like you, must interpose and protect the people from tyranny. Just like Hume had expressed,

you assured us that everything was just fine without the voting process, Kennedy. But Hume

didn't acknowledge that it's probably a good time to look at the voter rolls. And that

would be something that would be corrected within the next four years. And he has our

full support in doing so. And that's actually the thrust of our message is we're behind

you in doing that. But as far as the presidents. So codified in 1550, the Magdeburg Confession,

this doctrine guided city leaders in defying the Holy Roman Emperor to uphold religious

freedom. It echoes in the Declaration of Independence where colonial leaders resisted British overreach

to preserve liberty. The U.S. Supreme Court has affirmed its principle. In Prince v. United

States in 1997, the court ruled that state officials cannot be forced to enforce federal

directives violating constitutional principles. Similarly, New York v. United States in 1992

upheld state sovereignty confirming the federal government cannot compel local compliance with

unconstitutional laws. As Sarah mentioned on October 2nd, we delivered a cease and desist

order regarding California's AB 969, which unlawfully bypassed constitutional procedures

via a fraudulent urgency clause. AB 969, Article 2, Section 9 of the California Constitution

by denying referendum rights in Article 4, Section 8D, as its urgency clause lacks factual

justification. We just want to call you all to action. And we're giving you, if you want

to go back and watch the video, you can figure out that we're following you closely.

Speaker please. Good morning, Board members. During the past five months, we've been here

in treating you as our county representatives as lesser magistrates, which is mentioned,

to safeguard our rights as a constitutional republic to fair elections. Now that the elections

are over, we're calling your attention to the following violations. Number one, our

U.S. Constitution requires same day voting in all federal elections for the entire country,

yet our state government has added 29 days before and 27 days after that day, creating

the fraudulent situation of five counties still receiving newly found ballots three weeks

later to change the election results for five counties. Do you really believe that the people

you represent think that this doesn't compromise their vote? Argentina, by contrast, took six

hours to record 27 million same day ballots cast. Number two, both our U.S. Constitution

and California state constitution require voter identification so that only citizens

vote in our elections, yet our governor declared voter ID is not required and only one lesser

magistrate, the city of Huntington Beach, refused to comply with this unconstitutional mandate

and was vindicated by the courts. Who knows how many illegals in California compromised

our vote? Number three, the Help American Vote Act, whose funds California received,

requires with severe penalties for noncompliance, among other things, accurate, updated voter

records which we do not have. Who knows how many illegals or dead voters or those who

have moved out of California have voted and compromised our legal vote? So we are asking

you as lesser magistrates to inform the secretary of state that you cannot, in good conscience,

certify this county's elections or, for that matter, the state's elections. Therefore,

we request that your time is up. ASAP this December to remedy this compromise

election. Next speaker, please.

Free elections do not exist in California. California's elections are in the hands of

the government. This is unlawful. This is unconstitutional. Let it be known, we the

people will not let up on these Sacramento board of supervisors until elections are back

into the hands of the people where they legally belong. Our country is now nearly solid red,

although California still has the most corrupt elections process in the entire country. California

is still counting votes 28 days after election day. Republicans were ahead in the 45th congressional

district, and then there was the bomb threat at the Huntington Beach Precinct. All of a

sudden, Democrat votes started pouring in. This is unbelievable. The Huntington Beach

Precinct was doing the right thing by checking IDs in order to verify legally registered

voters. Newsom's new law that identification is not required to vote continues to corrupt

California's election process. California's use of mail-in ballots, electronic voting

machines connected to the Internet, and third-party software has enabled widespread manipulation,

fraud, and foreign interference, and there are algorithms that fractionate votes. California

indeed has the most corrupt elections in the entire country. Gavin Newsom wants to make

California Trump-proof. Newsom wants to stop all of the great things that can be done to

make California great again. It is time for we the people to make California Newsom-proof.

So that we can start doing the great things to make California great again. Well, well,

well, New California was featured on Sacramento local news. How nice. We have been accused

of spreading misinformation. New California State gathers our information from many credible

and reliable sources. We are confident that our information is factual and true.

Thank you. Your time is up.

One of these supervisors is spreading the misinformation.

Thank you. Your time is up, sir.

That New California State is spreading misinformation.

Your time is up, sir.

I bet you won't.

Next speaker, please.

Ryan?

Good morning.

I don't know if you remember me coming to you guys for help because your director had

spread some lies which brought death threats to me and my family. We did go to small claims

and I found out intentionally spreading lies to harm someone's credibility or sharing false

information that harms someone's reputation is not defamation, nor is it considered assassination

of character if you are the director of government department. Inspire that being the very definition.

With that aside, I've come to you for help about retaliation from that same director.

Even with the very definition of what proof is, it was still ignored. So I'll give you

another example of some of the types of bull feces that we're faced here as citizens to

you guys. During this court case, this director, he told me that I could communicate with him

using the county email, which is very ironic because this was a very private event and

I believe he wrote me up for using the county email for something that was not work related

and I had emailed that I passed out at my desk but he said it was after hours. But he

could use it for his personal leisure. I just thought that was kind of slapping the face

where how can I communicate with you, oh just use my personal county email. Yeah, this

just amazes me. Then I hear Gavin Newsom say he wants to Trump proof California. It's like

from what? We live in a capital where stuff is permitted. Yeah, so I just not add enough.

People say that Trump's putting people in places they're not qualified for but I'm looking

at a board that runs the state capital of the county with very little education. The directors

with no master's degree that oversee positions that have master's degree. I understand them

you guys need to be out of time. You guys need to be out of time up there. Thank you. Next

speaker please. Good morning, my name is Dermaine Dowdell. I'm a journeyman carpenter and just

to give a couple of my reasons why I'm speaking for the carpenters, I believe that going through

the apprenticeship for me was a godsend. I didn't have the traditional college pathway

that most people might have, but it has provided my family with the solid foundation to have

health care and to take care of our future.

I also believe that hiring locally is very important for Sacramento.

There are a lot of jobs coming up, and we have the people and the members that are educated

and trained to provide you guys with that solid work that you need.

Also I'd like to speak about prevailing wage.

Those dollars that come from the people that work in this community will circulate through

this community.

It also helped to bring that pride in community, that pride in what's going on around us and

the place that we live in.

I just want to see that those carpenters that are out here, our apprentices are put on these

great jobs that are coming up in the future and that were considered.

Thank you very much.

Happy holidays to you all.

Thank you.

Next speaker please.

Good morning board.

My name is Megan Elsie.

I am a member of 350 Sacramento, which is a climate justice organization.

I'm here to ask you to oppose the Upper West Side Project, which will be coming up for

your consideration early next year.

The Upper West Side Project will increase vehicle miles travel.

That's VMT.

VMT is one of the leading causes of greenhouse gas emissions, which of course cause climate

change, which is very dangerous to us here in California.

Now the VMT will be increased because the Upper West Side Project is not infill or smart

growth.

It is sprawl development and it is outside the urban services boundary and the urban

policy area.

It has been advertised as something that is mixed use development, but it will not.

That is a speculative and ungrounded claim because the amount of development is not needed.

SACOG, the Sacramento Council of Governments, has found that far more development has already

been approved than will be needed for decades in the county.

These different developments, some have already been approved, are going to be spread out.

No businesses will want to go there to be mixed use development, so people will have

to drive miles and miles for services.

It does not meet our housing needs.

The kind of housing that we need built would be adjacent to public transportation and or

low income housing.

Those types of housing are what will lower poverty, homelessness and greenhouse gas emissions.

So again, I ask the board to deny the Upper West Side Project next year.

Thank you very much.

Thank you for coming in.

Is that our final speaker?

That concludes your off agenda comments.

Okay, thank you.

Next item, please.

Okay, for your consent matters, items 2 through 72.

For item 8, you're adopting an ordinance amending Sacramento County Code 4.54.360 pertaining

to the application fee to sell fireworks.

You waived reading on this on November 5th.

And for item 33, you're adopting an ordinance amending Chapter 16.91, Title 16 of the Sacramento

County Code relating to Sacramento Countywide Transportation Mitigation Fee Program.

And you waived reading on this on November 5th.

Thank you.

Thank you, Chair.

I turn on my mic.

Thank you.

Just wanted to offer a comment on item 6 and then record a no vote on item 16.

16 is a no vote.

Got it.

Okay, for item 6, this is the authority to place Aggie Square possessory interest assessments

on secured tax roll.

And then for item 16 for the no vote, this is the contract to approve the Second Amendment

to agreement with Nottenham Lewis Architects for additional architectural services.

Great.

Thank you.

I just wanted to offer my thanks to our County Executive David Villanueva and our County

Assessor, Christina Nguyen for their assistance on the, what was a concerning issue earlier

And thank you, Chair.

Thank you.

So, Res.

Desmond.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I would like to remove from consideration item 30.

Okay.

Let me read that into the record.

This is acting as the Carmichael Recreation and Park District.

This is to approve the resolution delegating authority to the District Administrator to

negotiate and execute a new lease.

And thank you.

And just with the board's support, I would just like maybe to delay the hearing on this

matter until early January to give me a chance to have a discussion with the Carmichael Recreation

and Park District Director about this lease and some of the concerns I have relating

to it.

I'll second that.

A unanimous vote.

Thank you.

All right.

Number 26, please.

Fern Bacon Middle School safe routes to school improvements.

Just want to thank DOT staff and all the staff that has been involved with this.

This is, I was saying, Mr. Villanueva, who actually went to Fern Bacon.

We were talking and he said that's why it's so familiar to him.

It's so familiar to me because I've been working on this for eight years.

And it's not because of our staff that it took so long.

That's the funding streams, the color of money and all of that.

But this is a great project for a neighborhood that badly needs it and for kids who are put

in danger every day to go to school walking where there's no sidewalks, busy corridors.

And so this is not only good for South Sacramento, but it's also going to save lives.

So thank you for your work.

Okay.

I see no one else.

Is there any member of the public that would like to comment on an item or have an item

removed from consent?

We do not have anyone sign up to speak for consent matters.

Is there a motion?

Second.

Okay.

We have a motion to second, noting the Supervisors no vote.

Okay.

Anonymous vote for items 2 through 72 with the exception of 16 and 30.

For item 73, this is the presentation of resolution congratulating the Sacramento Ballet on their

Board, we're here today to recognize the great work of the Sacramento Ballet who for the

past 70 years have not only entertained Sacramento, but educated Sacramento and introduced Sacramento

to the arts in many ways.

From the leadership of Barbara Crockett from the very beginning to, of course, we all remember

the works of Ron Cunningham in Korean Brenda and of course, Anthony Crutscap.

nutcracker, which many of us probably, that was the first ballet that we first saw.

Many of us in this room, I can say probably, that was the first ballet we saw and it has

actually introduced tens and tens of thousands of children every year to the arts and specifically

to ballet.

So, on behalf of the Board of Supervisors, therefore be it resolved that the Board of

Supervisors, County of Sacramento, State of California, hereby commends the Sacramento

Ballet for their outstanding artistic contributions and community outreach to the greater Sacramento

for the past 70 years.

The County of Sacramento community celebrates the Sacramento Ballet's artistic director,

the dancers of the company and the second company.

The directors, the Board of Directors, the staff, the volunteers and the children who

all work tirelessly and serve as representatives of California's thriving cultural scene on

national and international stages and for everything that you do in Sacramento.

Thank you very much.

On behalf of the dancers, the staff, the Board and the school, we want to say thank you to

the County and you and through history those who have sat in those seats because without

you we can continue all of our outreach and community engagement and shows throughout

all districts.

We greatly appreciate it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Item 74 is the presentation of resolution honoring David Magnino for over

for over 10 years of county service

with the Emergency Medical Services Agency.

Good morning, I'm Tim Lutz,

Director of Health Services,

bittersweet to be here today,

recognizing Dave Magni know for his amazing service

to our Sacramento EMS Agency.

Dave stepped into the role in December, 2013.

And I can certainly highlight the fact

that his contributions have enhanced patient care

and system efficiency across our entire EMS system.

And he really has been a strong advocate

for addressing some of the challenges

that I know we've talked about with this board,

ambulance, patient offload times, system efficiencies.

Those things that often I think we take for granted

until we need to call 911

and want an ambulance to be timely

and get us into an emergency room quickly.

Some of the programs that Dave has really helped

or been an integral part in helping develop and bring to us

are one that we're talking about in a little bit today,

which is our triage alternate destination program.

And I'll just say a significant point to that

is numerous other pre-established community

paramedicine programs have applied for and been denied

or had struggles implementing

a triage alternate destination program.

Our application went through quickly and was approved

and that is very much in part to Dave's tremendous knowledge

of our EMS system in California.

Dave also has helped herald in our pre-hospital

blood administration program

and specialty care for trauma, STEMI and stroke.

Really what I would say his focus has been

is innovative solutions to address some of our critical

challenges like our ambulance, patient offload times

that directly contribute to the betterment

of all of us in Sacramento County.

As Dave approaches his retirement,

I think he has a good legacy that he's left us

and big shoes to fill.

So thank you Dave for your service and work

for Sacramento County residents.

Thank you very much Board of Supervisors.

And I've gotten to know most of you over the years

and I wanna give a big thanks to my team.

It's not me that's done all this work.

It's the team that's sitting back here behind me

cause I couldn't do it all myself.

It is 100% them with the support of previous directors

for Department of Health Services

and my immediate supervisors, Dr. Cicerea

and Dr. Demiano, I wouldn't be here today

if it wasn't for their support.

So again, I wanna thank you and hopefully

we can keep moving the EMS system

in Sacramento County to be a leader

in everything that we do.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you guys.

I love you both.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, next item please.

Yes, item 75, presentation of resolution recognizing Michelle Cajes upon the occasion

of her retirement.

We meet again.

Colleagues and members of the public, it is my privilege but I am also somewhat saddened

today to be here to present a much deserved resolution for Michelle Cajes for her dedicated

and outstanding service to Sacramento County.

As we all know, Michelle has been stalwart protector of children in her capacity with

a DCFAS and throughout her career.

And certainly I've also had the great honor to work with her very closely on the first

five commission as chair and she's been a faithful dedicated commissioner working in

that capacity as well.

This is the second time I've had a chance to present a resolution in the last month.

We did one for her service on the first five commission earlier and that was at her objection.

She didn't want all the fanfare and attention and that really speaks to the kind of person

she is.

She is a very, I think, humble public servant.

I think she's a model public servant.

I think for young people that are considering work in local government, especially on subjects

as important as child welfare, Michelle serves as a distinct role model.

And one of the things that I mentioned during the resolution presentation for first five

is I think in her honor, while she's going to go off and retire, we ought to adopt part

Campaign, which she has been an incredible component part since its inception, that we

really focus our attention on making sure that every child in Sacramento County has

the opportunity to succeed in life, to be healthy in life, to enjoy early childhood development

opportunities and their families.

So I am not going to read all the where as's in the resolve here.

I did that for the first five presentation.

But I will tell you that as the senior member of the board and having had the opportunity

now for 14 years to work with Michelle, I am sincerely saddened to see her go.

But I understand that she needs to write off into the sunset.

But she can definitely look back on an incredible career here in Sacramento County doing incredible

work.

And I would argue the most important work.

So Michelle, it's my distinct honor to present you with this resolution honoring you on your

service and congratulating you on your retirement.

Michelle, step away from the PowerPoint remote.

I know, right?

My last opportunity to mess it up.

Wow, this is very humbling and uncomfortable.

And I stand here today with a very full heart.

I started my career in a nonprofit agency that had a contract with the county and really

enjoyed serving in that capacity.

And I thought, you know what, I'm going to go try the county.

Give it five years.

Just see what it's like on the other side.

And here I am 28 and a half years later.

And it has been such a great ride and I'm so grateful to have been able to serve our

community as a county employee.

I would recruit folks to come work for the county.

You can do different things and serve our community in different ways.

And it's a great place to work.

So there are so many people who have supported me along the way that I would love to thank.

I can't thank them all.

But I do know that I have accomplished not one thing other than maybe driving myself

to work alone.

I've always had a team that I've been a part of or led.

And I could not have gotten to where I am today without all those folks behind me in

front of me and by my side.

But there are a few folks I want to call out.

There's my wife Tara Garrett who Tara has been my rock.

She has supported me, encouraged me and quite frankly tolerated me for the past 27 years.

If you don't know I can be a little much at times.

She's had her own successful career often with long hours but somehow managed to support

me, our family and our home in a way that has allowed me to work the extra hours that

are often needed in these positions and I'm so grateful for that.

And the wonderful news is we are both retiring so we get to start this new journey together.

So I'd also like to thank my parents.

My mother is no longer with us but I know that she is cheering me on.

And my father is with us and I'm so, yeah, so grateful for that.

He served our country for 22 years and then completed another career with Lockheed Martin.

He taught me the importance of a strong work ethic, of commitment, of humor and never ever

giving up even when things get challenging.

He lives in Texas and he would send me articles from Texas papers that highlighted stories

about foster children with complex needs and how difficult it was to find placements for

them.

And he would send me a note encouraging me and telling me it's not just a Sacramento

issue, hang in there and keep trying, right?

And now he's a role model to me for healthy and joyful aging.

He's almost 90 years old, still buying green bananas and does everything possible to enjoy

the gift of time.

So thank you, dad, out in Texas.

A huge thanks to my executive leadership team, Dr. Danny Morris, Melissa, Jacobs, Melissa

Lloyd.

Our department, although relatively new, is very strong because of their leadership, their

experience and their ability to lead all the DCFAS employees who are an amazing group

of folks that show up each and every day to serve some of our most vulnerable.

You confirmed on consent the appointment of Shelby Boston, who will replace me.

You have a great team, Shelby, and I know that you will be a great asset to the department.

I would be remiss if I did not thank Siobhan and all our social service agency directors.

Emily, Ethan, Tim, Julie, Dallin, Jania, they are such an incredible group of folks, hard

working, also committed.

Very funny.

You should have them do a little show for you.

And it's been wonderful being a part of that team.

So thank you.

And lastly, I want to thank this board for all your support over the years, not just

for me personally, and not just for our department, but all the support for our social services

and health departments that provide and support our safety net services in the community.

A quote I'd like to end with from Hubert Humphrey.

The way we treat our children in the dawn of their lives and the way we treat our elderly

in the twilight of their lives is a measure of the quality of a nation.

And I would say the quality in our community continues to get better because of this board's

actions and support.

You understand the importance of prevention and investing in children and families while

also allocating resources to support our seniors so they can age with dignity and respect.

So thank you for supporting our littles and our seniors.

It has been such a pleasure to serve as your deputy and director and director for the past

12 years.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Board down?

Okay.

So let's get one photo here.

Okay. Yeah. Stick around.

Tracy.

Photoshop.

Then we're going to get the pic.

This is a good iPhone.

Everything beautiful.

What's that?

Are you just stay there?

Supervisor Frost.

Michelle.

I just want to thank you for all of your hard work.

You know, I learned a lot about the complexities of what you do when I faced situations in my own personal life, the complexities of what you do.

The complexities of the foster care system, not only for those that are being fostered, but for the families that are involved on all sides and the foster parents.

And I just know under your leadership with your team, and I don't know exactly each person that was involved.

I know some of them.

That's someone who I love very much in my almost immediate family is alive today and her baby is alive because of you and your team.

So I want to personally thank you for all that you did.

We didn't think she was going to make it.

And she did.

And she's doing great.

And so you deserve a great retirement.

I know that we really appreciate everything you did with the county over time, but I know that a lot of great things happen under your leadership, not just handling problems, but prevention and education and finding ways to prevent those situations from happening for people.

So thank you so much for your commitment to all of that.

And I hope you have a wonderful retirement.

Thank you so much.

So rather him.

Thank you, chair.

Michelle, I had the pleasure to meet you.

Obviously, I have the least experience of anyone up here being associated with you, but I had the pleasure of meeting you very early on when we were touring the youth correctional facility.

And it just struck me.

You have this magnetic electricity that exudes from you.

And your job forces you to deal with some of the most intractable situations and systems in our society.

And that quote from Herbert Hoover.

So perfect.

Because you advocate for those who either don't have their voice yet, or maybe their voices diminished at the end of their lives or towards the Twilight of their lives.

And yet you you bring this smile and this, like I said, there's just this perspective and this energy to it that I hope will be replicated and continue on.

And you have a great team of people behind you.

You know, we've been leaning in recently on the foster care situation and how we sort of wrap our minds around those that, you know, have received a bad shake in life.

With the standing up of Natoli Place, we increased our bed count for seniors who deserve to have a place of respite, you know, to get themselves back for feedback under them.

And so I just commend you for the work that you've done.

And I agree you deserve a great retirement and please don't fail it.

Like go out and enjoy life.

And I don't want to see you back here anytime soon, except it's for joyous reasons.

And so congratulations on a storied career.

And I'm glad you came over to this side of the house and found a place where you could really do some good work.

Thank you.

So, President Desmond.

Yes, Michelle, don't do what Dave Magnino did and go get a job at the state or something, you know, keep working, you know, get it right the first time when you retire.

But I just want to echo what everybody said up here.

You know, we were just at a CSEC conference a couple weeks ago and LA County Supervisor said, you know, the role of counties is to be there for people when the bottom drops out of their lives.

And you have really been really at the vanguard of that effort to protect people when that happens to help lift them back up and care for them, especially the most vulnerable people in our society.

And you have just been a joy to work with, so responsive, so understanding of the unique, you know, challenges we each face dealing with constituents, certainly with regard to the setting up the welcome homes and dealing with the challenges with our foster care system.

But I just thank you and I wish you and Tara a long and just wonderful and enjoyable retirement.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Supervisor.

Mr. Villanueva.

Thank you, Chair Kennedy.

Michelle, I just wanted to say congratulations.

I know we had a chance to have lunch the other day and go over all the great things that you've done.

You know, this is a well-deserved retirement after 28 years.

What a fantastic career that you've had, you know.

You continue to touch the children in our lives and the older adults and people with disabilities and you do a fantastic job.

And just know you've made it so much better for so many other folks.

You know, when I first started as the county executive, I was out meeting with a whole host of CBOs and they've just talked nothing but high praises of you and your department and the great things you do.

So congratulations on your retirement and congratulations on all the legacy that you left here.

And I hope you have a chance to get out and improve that golf game and spend some time with Tara and do the wonderful things that you have planned.

So congratulations.

Thank you, David.

Thank you.

With that, I'm sorry, hang on.

I believe we have a caller.

Paula, please start with your comments.

Thank you.

Good morning.

First, I want to thank the board for allowing me this time to share some of my thoughts about my daughter, Michelle.

I know it is not always possible for a father to see his daughter retire and it is certainly something special to be invited to participate.

I have a tremendous feeling of satisfaction and pride in seeing how Michelle has come to this place in her career.

From her early work with the weave to her position as director of child family and adult services for Sacramento County,

Michelle has been driven by compassion, caring and commitment to helping people.

These qualities have been her north star her entire life.

They reflect values, parents, holy hope, their child will uphold, excuse me.

As parents, her mother and I saw those qualities take shape as she was growing up.

Michelle was a team player and leader.

She fully embraced school community activities and team sports.

As she mapped out her academic career, both undergrad and graduate school, she never lost focus on her purpose to help others.

I am also proud she stayed in Sacramento after graduating from Sacramento State to build her life and serve the community.

Through media coverage and many special father-daughter conversations, I saw her navigate her career.

I saw her resilience and determination to help.

I saw her help manage the vital human and financial resources that allow this department to protect some of Sacramento's most vulnerable children and seniors.

To all of you here today, I know your time serving the people of the county reflects some very good choices, our choices, challenging choices, but certainly purposeful choices.

And I thank you for choosing my daughter.

And to all of the people who have accompanied Michelle on her professional journey, please know how grateful I am that you saw fit to present her with opportunities to expand her commitment to public service.

Michelle, I see you and I see your leadership and professional record as testament to the compassion, caring, and commitment to others that have always defined you.

Congratulations on your retirement. Your entire family is proud of you and loves you very much. Thank you.

Thanks, Dad.

Well, that goes to show you that the green banana does not fall far from the tree.

Okay, I believe we have some members of Michelle's staff that would like to say a few words.

It's an episode of This Is Your Life.

Chair, I'd like to have a DGS to look at the ventilation system. It just got a little dusty in here or something. I don't know what's going on.

It's definitely a day for some Kleenex. Good morning to all the board members. Melissa Lloyd, Deputy Director, Child Protective Services.

And I'm here with my teammates, Dr. Danny Morris, over our Quality Management and Administrative Services, and Melissa Jacobs, our Senior and Adult Services Deputy Director.

We wanted to come here together as a team today and publicly show our admiration, respect, and love for Michelle.

We could take up an entire day sharing how much Michelle means to us, but we will not do that. We will keep it very brief and just say a couple of words in terms of how much Michelle means to us individually.

So, Michelle, I just want to say thank you for supporting me unconditionally. Michelle's been my direct boss for nine years.

I came in after she promoted to Director, but I have so much gratitude for all of the support you've given me. Michelle has taught me so much. She has led by example.

She's challenged me, and I'm very honored to say that she has made me a better person and a better professional in the work that I do every day.

So, I just want to say thank you so much. I also want to give acknowledgement to Tara, her wife.

The work that we do is so much that is done in public service is definitely not nine to five, 24-seven, and Tara, like all of our family members, has been supportive.

And if you don't have that support at home so that you can do the work that is required on behalf of our community, it just would make things so much harder.

So, I do want to say just thank you to Tara and your family for all the support they've given. So, thank you and congratulations.

Thank you.

I just want to say publicly acknowledge you and congratulate you. Thank you so much for also caring about seniors and our older adults and individuals with disabilities and DCFAS.

And thank you for your leadership.

Being the newest person on the team, but knowing Michelle for over, oh wow.

Long time. We've had the opportunity to work together as colleagues with CWDA and I remember her joining CWDA meetings for children and the fire she brought and the energy and the knowledge and the change she brought to California really helped change, shift and do things that some may not know that she did statewide, not just in Sacramento.

I want to thank her for that. And the humor that she has is great. And I know when we're in meetings, when she's getting tired of the meeting, she'll do something and say something that's very fun and I appreciate.

So, I found a shirt that expresses what she shares and says when I know she's ready to move on. And the shirt says, I don't say blah blah blah, but she does say blah blah blah.

Madam clerk, any other?

I have one public comment from Tameza or Tameza Wash?

Tameza.

We need you one more time.

That comment from your dad.

That was amazing. But it really just exemplified what you have in family and what you provide us each and every day in family.

My name is Tameza. I'm the chair of the Women and Girls Commission. Michelle shows up for us endlessly and your leadership is unmatched.

It truly exemplifies every day how much we can be doing for survivors and community. You're so innovative and creative and the commission just adores you.

We appreciate you and it's our hope. You can make it to our open house where we want to continue to celebrate you.

And I'm just excited about this next journey. Please, sis, rest, adventure, enjoy. And I just wanted to really just take this time today to say thank you.

We have so many memories when I've gotten the work of domestic violence, anti-trafficking and so forth. Many people said you got to know who Michelle is and I understand why when I met you.

Working with survivors each and every day has been a passion of mine. I'm born and raised in Oakland and when I came to Sacramento, I didn't think it was the same parallels but I began seeing those things and I began seeing the richness and the culture that you provided,

not only in our nonprofits but also within the Women and Girls. So we thank you for having this torch and keeping it lit even in the darkest of times.

And we will continue to keep that torch lit in the work that we do for Women and Girls because there's still so much work to do and we thank you and we appreciate you.

Thank you too.

Thank you.

Okay, I believe that brings the Michelle hour to a close.

Next item, please.

Okay, for item 76, presentation of resolution recognizing Chief Probation Officer Marlon Yarber upon the occasion of his retirement.

Sorry, dude, you should have gone first.

So we're here to honor Marlon Yarber who's been with the county probation department since 2013 but served as our Chief Probation Officer since 2021 and under Marlon's tenure, we've seen huge great advancements in the

youth programs that are offered through probation in the facility itself. We have seen a real push, a continued push but a laser light focus on anti-recidivism.

We sincerely appreciate everything that you have done. I know that when I look at the men and women in your department, I think we have the best department in California and you've been a part of that for quite some time and you've been an exemplary chief.

We appreciate everything that you have done for the county and the youth in Sacramento and those that sometimes fall between the cracks and get forgotten and how you have made their lives better which has made the community safer.

So thank you Marlon for all your efforts.

Thank you.

Thank you chair and board. Thank you for making time on the agenda.

Yeah, a little bit of heartburn with maybe the clerk's office or county executive, don't follow Michelle.

Incredible speech, congratulations.

That's more appropriate. I will not be long at all.

I need Michelle's speech writer. That's the other thing I recognize. Maybe it's Michelle.

But just want to say thank you. Certainly the board, all of your support, county executive, Eric, rest of the deputy county executive staff, the court, we're joined today by the court executive, the chief in Sacramento is appointed by the presiding judge.

It is a tough thing when you say you're done. It's been 30 years for me in and around the field and thank you for the tissue. I'm glad these are already up here.

30 years in and around the field and never thought, it was never thought to be chief. I only got into the field because of curiosity really about disparities.

And then thinking, you know, you know, thinking you could help kids.

You know, my wife's like, are you crying? I'm like, no, I'm not crying. It's, you know, here in Michelle's dad.

I could think of my own parents and like, oh, you know, you got to, you know, balance, you know, kids, all kids need love and discipline and you got to balance that and that's what probation is about.

So, you know, it's appropriate, I think, that I ended up here. Did not set out to do it. You know, it certainly wouldn't be able to do it.

You know, without the support of my wife, Shannon, who's here, my kids were at school, you know, where they need to be.

And certainly my team, you know, the work, you know, we had lots of incredible successes, innovated. I do think, you know, best department in the land, certainly in the state, maybe in the country, you know, tops as it relates to, you know, the way our facility is operated.

We're just really blessed. You know, as am I, really blessed to have incredible talent, you know, joined by Assistant Chief Julie Wary, Assistant Chief Mark Marquez.

He's not here. He's out sick, but since his regards and, you know, a host of our team and the things I've been able to do or that, you know, former Chief Seale was able to do, we don't do it alone.

He's in a better place and, you know, really will just end by saying thank you. Appreciate all the support. So that's it for me.

Mr. Chair, if I could offer some comments.

Yeah, we have a queue. Is that okay?

Sure.

Mr. President Desmond.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I'll be brief, Marlon. I love what you described. You know, probation straddles that line between love and discipline. I always think about straddling the line between social services and frontline law enforcement.

It's the same thing. And you have been an incredible leader in Sacramento County in making sure that we are doing everything we can in terms of prevention, rehabilitation, just the ongoing evolution of a criminal justice system that keeps people safe while also making sure we do things.

That makes sure people will thrive as well if they get caught up in the criminal justice system. So thank you. And you're also just a class act when it comes to advocacy for better probation related policies at the state level.

And I'm sure you have a bright future in that regard, Marlon. I think a lot of organizations would love to have you come and join their teams because I know you have a lot more to give in this area.

And I wish you all the best in your retirement. Thank you for your service.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

So, Reza Frost?

I didn't know you had such a sense of humor.

Well, usually I'm, you know, overprepared and I'm on point anticipating your questions. So today I did not prepare. Here I am.

I just want to say I think I came in late. I think I started in 2017. You'd been here for quite a while, but I remember touring your facility, the juvenile facility and the events that we went to and learning a little bit about probation and the complexity.

I don't think that's an easy thing to do for people, but I think you've changed the direction of lives. And it's because, not just because of the programs that you instituted, but the partnerships, private partnerships.

And you've been a great leader for the county and I've appreciated your leadership and I just want to thank you and say I hope you have a wonderful retirement.

Thank you. Sue Rezzi-Hume.

Thank you, Chair. First of all, Chief, I just want your wife to know we've put in the work order for the ventilation to fix the dustiness.

And the other thing is that you and DCFAS kind of work like gears or teeth on the gears sometimes. And whereas there's the prevention front end and there's the sort of back end work that's done, there's also that intervening time where someone is justice involved.

And try and make a difference wherever you can, because you have, and it's very important work. So thank you very much for your service.

Supervisor Serna.

Thank you.

So first of all, thank you for all of your dedication to this county, especially to the younger people of the county, and your capacity as chief.

I think you've served extraordinarily well, and you should be very proud of what you've achieved. Just listening to some of my colleagues' comments and reflecting on one thing that you said before you broke down.

You said, Marlene, you said you were done. And this goes for Michelle as well. It goes for any, I think, public servant that could look back on their time and service to the public.

And that's their prerogative, that's their absolute right, that's what makes our system of government the best in the world, in my opinion. And so that's to be expected.

But oftentimes in those comments, I just can't help but reflect on the fact that those same critics just don't take the time to really understand what we do as a team here in Sacramento County.

And in the capital city, they certainly understand probably better than most in the state what their legislators are doing. But it really is county governance and county service where I'll argue all day long, it carries the most importance in terms of how we're using resources more and more.

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I think that's a very real important point, and I think that's a very important point, but I think that's a very important point.

As we discuss this also, with a genuine interest in succeeding in measuring that success by how well others can succeed in their lives.

And so as I wish you, fond farewell to your retirement chief, again I would encourage you, never to lose wtih the fact that your presence will be felt here for years, and years to come.

Thank you.

any other yes mr. Villanueva thank you chair Kennedy chief I just want to say

thank you and congratulations at 30 years is a great career and I know you

spent a lot of time in this field of not all your time in this field with 10

years 11 years I think I think 11 years in a couple of weeks or 11 the fifth the

fifth so a couple of days from now 11 years here with the county and I just

want to say I appreciate all the innovative programs that you've bring

brought to the county and and the the way you've continued to transform the

way probation does provide services here in Sacramento County I think not only

here in Sacramento County but it's it's a model for us going forward with the

leadership that you've provided but also I think it's an incredible foundation

for the state of California to follow so I think like supervisor Cerna said your

legacy and leadership sets incredibly high standards not only for our county

but for the state of California and thank you on behalf of myself the

executive leadership team here and all the department heads sitting behind us

thank you for your service and wish you luck in your in your retirement and I

know you'll have a little bit more time to run those kids around all those

sporting events I know that was one thing that was important to you about

what I have to be today I'm glad you made it instead of taking it to the

different soccer the different practices so thank you thank you okay we have any

others all right thank you Marlon next item please okay so the next item we

have an announcement from our county executive for item 5 this is the

authorization to appoint Shelby Boston as director of child family and adult

services great thank you Flo with item number five today you've approved and

confirmed the appointment of Shelby Boston as our new director of child

family and adult services miss Boston has more than 25 years of experiencing

serving the public and social services agencies she is most recently the

director of the public guardian for butte county for butte county's department

of employment and social services since 2016 prior to that she served in several

positions in butte county's child and family services introduced including

being an analyst and social worker she is the incoming president for the

California welfare directors association and miss Boston holds a master's

degree in social service social work and a bachelor's degree in health services

both from CSU Chico which we won't necessarily hold that against her but

we're fortunate to welcome miss Boston to the county and I appreciate the board

support on this and ask her if she'd like to say a couple of words good morning

chair Kennedy and members of the board thank you for the introduction and I

have to say both of my sons have attended sex I am incredibly excited to

be joining Sacramento County after a long career in butte and I am feel very

fortunate to follow in the footsteps of Michelle I've been fortunate to know her

for many years as a peer she is incredibly respected and I hope to live up to

the expectations that she has left for me and I just have been so appreciative

of the process and just the warm welcoming of all of my colleagues my

soon-to-be colleagues and I've already warned Ethan if anything goes wrong it's

his fault thank you very much thank you very much Shelby and if I might

make a recommendation you probably gonna do this anyway but to make

appointments with each one of us so we can get to know you better

absolutely thank you very much welcome next item please okay for our next item

item 77 this is County service area number one zone number one public hearing

on the benefit category change and levy of increased service charges for the

Watt and El Camino Chick-fil-A project okay good morning the Watt and El Camino

Chick-fil-A project is located on Watt Avenue approximately 400 feet south of

the intersection with El Camino Avenue it consists of construction of a Chick-fil-A

restaurant drive-through and associated site improvements the project was

approved with a tentative map the tentative parcel map special development

permit amendment and design review on June 3rd 2019 in response to the

project's condition of approval required prior to building permit issuance

the project proponents submitted an application requesting the initiation of

the benefit category change process in response to that request a ballot notice

was mailed to the property owner on September 20th on November 5th 2024 at

the request of the project proponents the public hearing was continued to today

currently the project's parcels are in the street and safety light non-residential

benefit category and is assessed $75.14 annually which includes the 278 feet of

public right of way after the benefit category changed the enhanced street and

in safety light non-residential category the increased annual service charge

will be approximately $238.42 if there are no questions from the board we

recommend the board open the public hearing consider written oral testimony

and objections and protests and close the public hearing and then direct the

clerk to tabulate the return protest ballot thank you very much any questions

from the board seeing none I'll open the public hearing is there any member of

the public that would like to address the board at this time on this item we do

not have any public comments signed up all right we'll close the public

hearing would the clerk please tabulate the protest vote yes I'm gonna open the

ballot now

I have received one ballot the legal owner is Intel ELLC for parcels 281011

047 and 048 and the address is El Camino Avenue Sacramento California 958

21 and they are in favor for the annual service charge increase okay we please

read changes into the record thank you in section 2 at the close of the

tabulation the board received zero oral and written protests in section 3 at the

close of the tabulation the board received one protest ballot totaling

100% of the total amount to be levied of which 100% was in favor of the benefit

category change and 0% was in opposition to the change of the benefit

category all right sir a motion yes mr. Chair as the supervisor with the dubious

distinction of having the highest number of fast food chicken restaurants in

this district I move approval is there a problem with that yes unanimous vote thank

you very much next item item 78 is County service area number one zone number

one public hearing on the benefit category change and levy of increased

service charge for the oxwarm subdivision I'd like to mention that we

would normally combine the multiple CSA items into a single agenda and hearing

but since the other one was a continuance and this was already on

agenda that's what they're two separate so this is the oxwarm subdivision it's

located 650 feet east of the intersection of oxwarm Lane and Bradshaw Road and

consists of 95 single family lots a park lot miscellaneous landscape parcels and

associated site improvements the project was approved with a small lot

tentative map and design review on November 7th 2023 in response to the

project's condition of approval requiring required prior to filing a final map

the project proponents submitted an application requesting the initiation of

the benefit category change process in response to that process and response to

that request a ballot notice was mailed to the property owner on October 18th

currently the projects exit to existing parcels are in the safety light only

non-residential benefit category and is assessed $2.50 56 cents each annually at

the after the benefit category changes the increased annual service charge will

be approximately $5,937.50 for the 95 residential parcels in the enhanced

street and safety light residential category and $256.91 for the 252 feet

of public frontage for the park parcel in the enhanced street and safety light

non-residential category for a total of $6,194.41 for the project if there are

no questions from the board we recommend the board open the public hearing

consider any written and oral pro testimony and objections and protests

and close the public hearing to direct the clerk to tabulate the return protest

ballot questions of the board seeing none open the public hearing is there any

member of the public that would like to address the board on this item at this

time we do not have any public comments I'll close the public hearing please

tabulate the vote I have received one ballot and the legal owner is KLLB by 2

LLC parcels 066 011 0 0 6 and 0 6 6 0 1 1 0 0 2 5 site address is 9 7 7 0

oxfarm lane Sacramento 95829 and they are in favor of the annual service

increase please read changes into the record okay so section 2 at the close of

the tabulation the board received zero oral and written protests in section 3

at the close of the tabulation the board received one protest ballot totaling

100% of the total amount to be levied of which 100% was in favor of the change of

the benefit category and 0% was in opposition to the change of the benefit

category sir motion second please vote unanimous vote thank you no tears

item 79 very funny County item 79 the Sacramento County Emergency Medical

Services Agency report on the triage to alternate destinations program and

ambulance patient offload time reduction

Dr.

great thank you chairman Kennedy and the rest of the board thank you so much for

giving us an opportunity to come in to give a an update on two of our programs

at the Sac County EMS agency so again my name is Greg can I'm the EMS medical

director for Sac County EMS so I stood before you about 13 months ago where we

had a chance to talk about the dire state of our EMS system and I come back

today with with a sense of incredible pride in where we have come just in 13

short months before I get going into the presentation I want to acknowledge all

of the folks who are in the audience with me today it seems like every time I

come to the board I've got this incredible wind behind my back of these

of these EMS leaders in our community 13 months ago when we were 70 80 minutes

into our APOT offload standard in hospitals and our on our crews were on

there at their breaking point and our system was at its breaking point these

are the folks that led those crews and that workforce to get through that dark

time and to get us into a better place where people are feeling better about

what they're doing we are able to care for the patients that call 911 in a

efficient and effective way so just a kudos to everybody who's sitting in the

audience behind me and also point out to the folks at the EMS agency who work

every day to to give me the support that I need to give them the support that

they absolutely need so with that said so we're gonna we're gonna move on and

just give a couple of updates on on first off our trashed all their

destination program which again I'm gonna point to supervisor Hume as being a

real champion for us in moving that forward so we were given a mandate just

about a year ago for the county to stand up a trashed alternate destination

program so as was mentioned earlier on in Dave's retirement discussion he was

was instrumental in in giving us the just the bandwidth and the and the

leadership to to allow us to stand up a program really in light speed we had we

really no experience in this county previously doing community paramedicine

or other programs similar to this whereas other municipalities and counties

across the state that had these programs already in place we were kind of in a

in a race with them in order to stand up a program and I can say that we were the

first to be approved to move forward triage to alternate destination one a

lot of these other programs that had that experience failed and and that is a

testament to Kristen Bianco and to Dave and and the rest of the team that

helped me move forward with this program okay so this gives us a our approval

letter so as of August 16th we were approved by the state DMS authority to

stand up our triage to alternate destination for psychiatric care and for

substance sobering centers so a moment to stay for all of us to kick off our

movement forward in getting our program up off the ground so one of the things

that comes along with getting a triage to alternate destination program

approved is a opportunity to apply for a grant with the care star foundation so

care star has stepped forward and essentially put a blanket offer to any

county that has a triage to alternate destination program approved to be able

to apply for care star funding so we are in the process of finalizing our

application which would allow us to get a one-time grant of $50,000 which we have

earmarked within the agency to cover the production of training materials for

our county and also to assist with our providers in deferring some of the costs

that they have when it comes to them training their folks to be able to go

out and do this good work so our curriculum so our triage to alternate

destination providers who will be trained throughout the county are going to be

trained in these specific areas so understanding mental illness looking at

specific mental health conditions like schizophrenia mood effective disorders

understanding suicidal fats and behaviors having an understanding of alcohol and

substance use disorders and then the specific county wide protocols that

would allow patients to move to our specific sites for alternate care that's

not an emergency department I know Kevin Mackey was here so he's sitting in

the audience and I want to thank him personally we sat together in his office

for seven hours shooting video and this guy's great at chasing away leaf blowers

and FedEx trucks that are beeping in outside the window and it put us in it's

going to put us in a great spot where we can do really asynchronous learning where

folks can can log in and to take the training and to get themselves to add

accreditation within our county so I'm gonna that that kind of covers the

triage to alternate destination piece I think we've we are in a great place to

to be able to move forward with this come to the start of the year with our

providers achieving their accreditation and then starting to move folks into the

new alternate sites for care it is my hope that I can come back to the board

at some point and to give you some numbers and and to show really the the

amount of emergency department hours that have been that have been kept out of

the Ed's and to show the safety and efficacy of our program.

Supervisor Serna. Thank you Chair. So you know obviously we received all the

presentation materials in advance of the meeting this morning but I wanted to

ask you a question about this graph in particular before you left it and I'm

not sure as nope the next one the graph. So I'm not sure it has any relevance on

kind of the punchline of this this meeting or not because I'm sure we're

gonna hear different perspectives after you after you deliver your presentation

but I wanted to know is there a really distinct seasonality to this because

it's it's showing by the way you win the ward for the smallest font on the on a

graph here but but there is there's seems to be a distinct reflection both

locally at the Sacramento County level and statewide in terms of the peaks and

valleys here so I just wanted to understand what are we what are we looking

at in terms of you know the similarities despite the differences. Sure sure I can

speak to that so definitely you see that those two curves are kind of

synchronous with one another and those speak those spikes that you see

generally coincide to the areas where the times of year when we have a lot of

respiratory viruses and those sort of things so we know and as a from from a

county perspective our EMS transports to the emergency department 10 years ago I

would say that we have we would have more transports in the winter time than

the summertime but now it is almost flat so we see about 10 to anywhere from 10

to 12,000 EMS transports to local emergency departments every month and

that happens in June it happens in July it happens in January so we really see

kind of a load leveling across our entire year but what what we see with

these spikes in our eight pot times which is the time that it takes to get a

patient off of an EMS gurney into a bed space in the emergency department that

time tends to get higher when our hospital census is high so when we have a

lot of patients that are admitted to hospital and when there's a log jam or

backlog of getting patients out of the ED that's typically when you see those

spikes I put this slide into the into the deck today just to highlight the fact

that we have consistently been above the the statewide standard so the state

produces there's there gives us the the statewide view with every EMS

Commission meeting so the last one was back in September we're expecting another

update just in a week's time but this this shows us that we came close to

being able to to claim that we were at or better than the statewide average way

back in 2020 but but if you look that's right when the teeth of COVID was

happening okay so within I remember those emergency department days you could

hear a pin drop in the ED and there was you were seeing like half of it as in

patients when you normally see 20 so at that point the the graphs or the the

lines coincided but then if you look all the way to the very right edge you can

see that as of September we were almost at the point of where we were at the

statewide average gonna fast forward I'll maybe let the cat out of the bag here

but I anticipate that with the EMS Commission data that comes out next

Wednesday that we are going to be below that line with where we currently are

and in the County of Sacramento before you leave it if we were to impose

Sacramento County's trend here on some of our sister analog counties Alameda

Santa Clara some of the more urbanized counties with somewhat similar

populations would would that would we look similar would we have wider gaps in

the in the comparison and it's and I actually have data from the EMS Commission

actually smaller font than this so I spared everybody that but when when that

data came out mid-September it was it was shocking that we had traditionally

been 20 30 40 50 minutes higher than our peer counties so and so these are

looking at places like Medesto Stanislaus County this is looking at

Alameda LA D inland Empire that all of our our EMS agencies that are there

comparable to us we had traditionally underperformed them but with the with the

data that came out in September and I said this in my our second APOC meeting

that we had just just in in October that we could stand there in that moment to

say that we have a better APOC time our and milispation offload times are better

than any peer municipality in the state of California thank you continue please so

again just to highlight again that we are we are nearing the statewide average

on the right edge of this graph and they kind of put this next one out which

again shows it the three-year trend line with that dark hatched trend showing

that we've had a consistent downward trend in our 90th percent LA pot number

just going through the year 2024 this is this is kind of where the rubber hits the road

we have to submit our data to the to I think I made this presentation in September

or the first couple of days of October where we're able to show the downward trend so a year ago

we stood at 73 minutes as our 90 percent 90 percent LA pot time and you can see that we've had

month-on-month a consistent decline over the course of this year 35 minutes in October

has moved down to 29 minutes in the month of November so we currently stand at 29 minutes

and again I will I will if I were a betting man I'd put money down on the table that we're going

to be better by far than any of our peer municipalities across the state when the

EMS data is put out on on next Wednesday okay I put this slide up here also just to highlight

so on on the the left hand side of the slide you see the the one to two two to three three to

four four to five and greater than five so that highlights the the time that a patient sits on an

EMS gurney before they're moved into a a bed space so if you look across the bottom row so one to two

so back in November of 2023 there were 715 patients in that month that spent between one

and two hours on an EMS gurney before they got into a hospital bed we peaked up at 1,263 patients

that were greater that had a one to two hour wait if you fast forward all the way across to October

and we'll have the November number soon you can see that that 1,263 number has gone all the way down

to 181 so that is a that is a testament to the great work that's being done in our emergency

departments I think that they they deserve a ton of credit for the work that they are doing

and for their understanding that this is a community this is a community problem that needs to be

solved because all of these folks crews need to be back on the on the on the road and to borrow a

phrase from chief Rudnicki from Sac Metro they need to be prepared for the next patient and that's

and that's really what it comes down when it comes to to fixing our APOD number is that our EMS

crews need to be prepared for the next person that calls 911 so this gives a little bit more

of a breakdown by month with with our patient counts I already kind of alluded to this in

my earlier comments that we see anywhere between 10 and 12,000 patients a month the bottom number

there was I was able to submit a a an update earlier in the month where we had a small number of

patient records into our system for November but this November did finish up at 29 minutes

it's also interesting to see that our the average offload time is is shrinking dramatically as well

so we even see that we're 19 and then even 16 minutes is our average offload time which is

quite remarkable from where we were okay I go back to this this is kind of my roadmap for

for EMS medical direction and looking at at how we address not only our ambulance patient offload

time and but how do we address all of our programs to kind of feed into pinch points across the

the the arc of a patient care encounter through a hospital so on the left you've got your 911 call

then your EMS interaction and in the middle in the blue you've got your emergency department

and then the patient moves into a hospital admission and then goes home at the end

so the all of the work that we've been doing over the last year is really focused on that purple

area which is our EMS portion so looking at triage to alternate destination looking at

bolstering our MIH program and giving them kind of more reign to look at different patient

populations we've actually dropped their their inclusion criteria down to two years of age

so they can actually start seeing kids at home with the upcoming respiratory viral season that

we're really in the middle of now that gives them the the free reign to go out and do some good work

with our pediatric population also looking at things like telehealth public outreach and then our

EMS buprenorphine programs in the field so all of these things have impacted our on our A-POD number

and giving our crews the ability to bring patients directly to the waiting room which kind of

allows for our hospitals to be able to triage patients so you don't get preferential treatment

if you come by ambulance if there's somebody in the waiting room that is more sick than the ambulance

patient they're the ones that are going to get in the bed space first just to put everybody into a

proper triage category so that everybody's got a fair shake at getting a fast efficient treatment

in the emergency department. Supervisor Serna. Thank you. So you noted the there's a bullet point in

the second box from the left there EMS buprenorphine administration. Is that am I confused I thought

I thought it was Narcan buprenorphine that was administered in the field buprenorphine the way

I've come to understand it from you know taking tours of clinics and whatnot that deal with

the opioid addiction epidemic that buprenorphine has to be administered

after a certain amount of withdrawal period so I'm just kind of curious about what's the distinction

in is there is Narcan administered somewhere it's just not mentioned here. Oh absolutely so

Narcan is given when somebody is in acute overdose so that's a reversal agent and somebody's overdose

to essentially bring them back to reverse that respiratory depression and to put them on a

path where they where they can be cared for. EMS buprenorphine is a field level intervention so if

you have somebody who is suffering from withdrawal from an opioid they can be given buprenorphine

in the field which will alleviate some of their withdrawal symptoms but we also know from the

data that these folks who are given early buprenorphine end up being retained in medical

assisted therapy longer their ability to kind of stay in substance use disorder therapy longer

is true. So buprenorphine is kind of a one-way street I mean in terms of at least the way I've

come to understand it from hearing from clinicians and doctors and because withdrawal from buprenorphine

is I've been told even somewhat more acute or it can be more acute than coming off some of the other

opioids. So I think I think there's there is a concern amongst our emergency departments that

EMS given buprenorphine can cause precipitate some withdrawal symptoms but that's just something

that is that is a more theoretical concern and the data that has been shown up and down the

state and really across the country shows that that concern is not so something that we need to be

on the lookout for and to be able to manage but the benefits certainly of getting pre-hospital

buprenorphine outweighs the risk. Thank you. Okay so I just want to highlight with our APOT numbers

that we are in a better place and we've come down significantly from where we were a year ago.

29 minutes is a number that we need to be celebrating. We're in the Christmas season here

and I think it's a great opportunity for us to recognize that. Now we have a robust discussion

happening within the county about our ambulance patient offload time standard. So that standard

kind of follows on the legislation, AB40 legislation that was put forward this year.

We've been working diligently with our hospital partners to get mitigation plans for APOT put

in place meeting state mandated deadlines for those that work and we move forward into January

of next year in a good place to be within kind of striking distance of our APOT goal. So

currently our APOT standard in Sacramento is at 20 minutes and that was established back in 2016.

We have a policy in place that's going to be reviewed just in a few short days on December 12th

where we have our EMS stakeholders and hospitals coming together to really debate on what that APOT

offload standard is to be and with that robust discussion we will be having a decision,

final decision on what the county-wide APOT offload standard is going to be moving forward.

So I anticipate that that's going to be a lively conversation. We've already had a number of

submitted comments during our public comment period for that meeting and we look forward to the 12th.

So with that I'll yield if you have questions.

Mr. President. Thank you chair. First of all I just want to say congratulations.

I know that when you came on board you and I had a conversation before we even knew each

other's respective roles and you've leaned into this issue and the short timer sitting behind you

had obviously committed a lot of effort to it as well and I know in my first budget process I foisted

money upon director Lutz just so scarcity of resources wouldn't be a crutch to perpetuate

the status quo but really it's been the work of the folks that are sitting in the audience both

representing the hospitals as well as our EMS and our private transporters that you know have

grasped the low hanging fruit and with I think minimal processes changes certainly not any changes

to the to the built environment you know we've we've halved the the average time for our county and

we are overperforming relative to our peers going from the worst in the state to now that there's

you know at least a dozen or so counties worse than us still and I think there's still work to be

done so don't don't let off the gas here but I think the next step for that and at least you

had to board and came now we're an audience earlier but they're not here anymore but I think the next

step to that is we really need to lean into some of the legislative fixes that allow for the waiting

room to be utilized better allow for the reimbursement so that when we try some of these more novel

concepts that's not a cost disincentive for folks to utilize triage to alternate destination

and so anything we can do up here if it's leaning in at CSAC and seeing if we can't get a coordinated

effort to really recognize that the system doesn't work as intended any longer and we need to update

how we we do this but I just want to congratulate everyone as I know we're going to hear a lot of

public comment relative to the standard that you just mentioned but I want to congratulate the work

that's been done so far and I hope that as we continue this conversation that we don't cleave

that collaboration and that collaborative effort and and get back to the finger pointing days that

I don't think were helpful but I do have a question relative to 2016 when he said that 20 minute standard

was put in place or enacted what was that based on and are there other counties that have a 20

minute standard and no the state the state has now said 30 minutes but but certainly that was

you know after we we'd established our own standard so I'll clarify one thing so the so the ab40 language

states that that counties will set their ambulance patient offload standard but that is not to

exceed 30 minutes okay so the county county can if you want to attend minutes you can set it at 10

yeah okay it just it can't exceed 30 so the you know obviously I was not there in 2016 when this was

debated but it was it was agreed upon by our EMS and hospital stakeholders at that time I think Dave

was in the room there that a 20 minute offload standard was reasonable so we the California has

a patchwork of offload standards so there are some there are there at 30 some that have recently been

moved to 30 but some counties that have that have held tight at 20 minutes San Joaquin County for

example has held held pat at 20 but we also have other large urban areas like Alameda as an example

they've they've shifted up to 30 so but again it's it is it is very patchwork but I think it's that

I don't think that there's one standard one size does not fit all when it comes to this this issue

I think that it depends on the the how robust is your pre-hospital system you know we have one of

the best in the world how what are your emergency departments like in your in your county we have

some of the best in the world some of the most innovative emergency departments around and I

think that a 20 minute standard is not out of reach and as is evidenced by some of the data

that I've shown today so our we've achieved that with our average number so a lion's share of patients

are getting off the gurney in less than 20 minutes but it's just some of those long timers so people

that are on for two three four hours that may have that may have specific needs that just need to be

prioritized a little more and I think that I think that we continue to work I agree with you that we

don't want to get back into a position where we're pointing fingers I think we want to continue the

collaborative approach that we we have we've set forth with our our EMS providers were able to

provide some poignant examples of what happens when we have a ambulance patient offload delay

and and how that can relate or translate into somebody who's calling 911 not having an ambulance

for them and it was actually chief radnicki who put forward one of the examples in February

that got in the mind of the folks at Kaiser Roseville one of the largest hospitals largest

emergency departments in the state and they just decided that it just wasn't okay for them to be at

80 minutes anymore and and with the November numbers we see that they now stand at 22 so it

shows that with focused effort we can get to the place that we need to be with that effort you know

I don't know I remember I'm going to date myself a little bit but you remember avis commercials

you remember avis we try harder right so so um dailanes worth who has been working with us he's a

professor at sex day it'll give him credit for that that slogan he put that up at one of our

summits because I asked him to come and talk about how do we make these changes durable how do we

make it so that a year from now I'm not going to come back here with my head down saying we're back

at 63 minutes and and he said to me you know Greg you can't just work harder and I worry

that some of the gains that we've made is just that our emergency department staffs return

in the wheel harder and and they're just they're just trying to get people through now certainly

there's been some um operational changes within the eds that have been phenomenal that have that

have gotten us to where we are and that came out of our mitigation planning and it came out of some

of the out of our apot discussions that were centered around ab40 so we've done a good job there

but now now that we're getting within kind of shooting range of the of that of that target

I think we need to start start putting some of our focus on the durability piece so how do we make

it so that it's just it's just ingrained so kim adams up at Kaiser Roosevelt the nurse manager up

there when you retire what's going to happen are you going to be right back to 80 minutes or are you

going to continue to work some of the folks that we had stirring speeches of retirements today

you know the same thing applies there what's going to happen with your organization when you retire

you know how do we how do we get those changes to be durable so that that it's just it's just

sacramental way it's how we do it yeah last question for me and then i'll see to my colleagues so the

the chart that you showed that has the 90th percentile sub 30 minutes but then it shows the

apot average sub 20 minutes so as you say we are in shooting range of the target

and I believe in sort of the brass ring to the extent that the aspirational target doesn't

provide for greater exposure or liability from a punitive standpoint

and so I guess my question is relative to the the ab 40 standard

being different from our own county standard what is the risk in that delta as far as if we

certainly we'd need to meet the 30 minutes but what if we don't meet the 20 minutes so so again

we we need to meet what we decide in sacramental county is our offload standard so if we decide

that we're 20 minutes or 25 minutes what we decide that is the the state ems authority takes that as

the benchmark it's not the 30 minute benchmark okay so if we decide we're going to go to 30 minutes

then yes that becomes the benchmark but whatever we decide collectively is is how we move forward

and the ems authority will be making calls to our hospital partners if you're not at 20 minutes

and that's what our standard is then you're going to get a call and they're going to be asking you

about your your apot mitigation plan you know have you implemented that what changes have you made

how are you looking to to operationally get to that number okay yeah thank you

so we're going to turn it thank you so to put a finer point on the last line of

question from supervisor hume and and i'm asking for i guess more anecdotal information than hard

data because i'm not sure that it exists it'd be great if it did but if it's coming i'm sure it is

and i'm sure it's going to be a very small font but tiny but so if you know what we're being asked

to really to me to the matter here today is 30 versus 20 at least in my estimation from what i've

heard from from those that have been advocating on both sides but if you were to look at what the

patient risk is if there is one between those two objectives what can you tell me anecdotally

are there instance are there examples where you had you know a patient in the field someone

calls 911 needs they're in distress they need assistance but they can't but ems can't get there

soon enough so response times climb because they're on the wall versus and and just looking at those

that group of instances between the 10 minute delta so if we could kind of get if i can get my mind

wrapped around that well that would help me understand not just the the fiscal consequence

because you know as we're going to hear from the ems folks you know you have a taxpayer dollar paid

for ems technician you know fire department personnel on the wall waiting for their patient to be

you know or for the hospital to take full custody of that patient you know versus the hospital

systems not taxpayer funded which that's a you know i think that's a very interesting salient point

again for this supervisor to consider but i really won't want to understand what are the

consequences not just the fiscal consequences but what are the consequences to patients that are

in dire need of attention between the 20 and 30s or anything else you can share do you have a

a slide you could whip out of your you know jacket pocket i mean i i can talk to you at

length about this uh supervisor shernas so try not to try to point take it all right so so state

state law state law dictates what a paramedic or ems professional can do inside of a hospital

so that law highlights that a paramedic may care for a patient if they're under the direct

supervision of a physician or a nurse while they are in the course of training so when you come out

of sac state or any other program you come into one of our emergency departments you got a nurse

or a physician that you're on their hip and they're walking you around the department saying well

okay let's start an ivy let's do all this let's do this this and this and kind of get your get

you trained up but once they once they go out into the street and they come into the to the care

bring that patient into the emergency department their ability to intervene on that patient is

really zero so they can continue to watch that patient so that patient goes into arrest they

can't get up there and start administering so so our our providers will they will they'll do what's

right for the patient and that's what's happened in our county in previous instances they will do

what's right they will start cpr they will start doing what they need to do to care for that patient

but when that patient with chest pain or with other complaints comes in and they're put on a wall

the crews that are in that hospital all they are doing is essentially supervising that patient

so they've got eyes on them so if something were to happen they would have a sudden change in their

status they can raise a flag and say hey there's something going on with my patient but their

ability to intervene is very very limited and i think that that is that is an area that there's

there's i think best put as some misunderstanding between our emergency department staff and what

the statute is which governs uh pre-hospital care providers in the the brick and mortar of a hospital

so you can see a situation where patient rolls in and they they have so let's say they're having

chest pain and and we do ekgs within 10 minutes we allow our our ems providers to wheel that patient

to a space where an ekg can be done to look at their heart if there's an immediate issue there

they're going to take them but if that ekg is negative that patient can go on to wall time

and then all of a sudden you've got a situation where the the medics are just standing there

watching okay so if if in that the next say that ekg was done at 10 minutes you've got another 10

minutes that goes by that patient could be deteriorating they could have an unseen medical

condition that is getting worse with every passing second or minute while they're on the wall

and that may not be immediately evident just by you looking at a patient so and and we have seen

these instances as emergency providers where patients decompensate on a wall absolutely happens

we've seen patients where they they arrest on a wall where our ems providers start to do the cpr

and they they raise their hand saying hey i've got a problem here they're they're in my clinical

opinion as an emergency physician an active working emergency physician in this county

i feel that there is inherent risk in patients staying on an ems gurney there's inherent risk to

that to address and just real quick to address the pre-hospital side so just to be clear when

there is no ambulance available so i get asked this all the time and i'm not the greatest

spokesperson for our ems colleagues but i'm gonna try i'm gonna try i get asked this all the time

so why is why is there an engine screaming down the road to get to an 911 call because there's

paramedics on that engine so that you know they they want a six minute response and on that onto

that sick patient so engine's going to get there you're going to get a paramedic crew that's going

to start to care for that patient so the response time is taken care of that the pre-hospital team

is doing the work to stabilize that patient but what happens with apot is that all of a sudden

you might not have an ambulance so there the instance that chief rdnicky talked about at

at the apot summit there were paramedics on scene for that patient that was sick in the heart of

sacramento but there were ambulances on the wall from all of the stations in and around that and i

think where did that ambulance come from that came out from rancho from rancho cordova to come into

the into sacramento in order to take that patient to hospital so it showed in a very very poignant way

how ambulance patient offload delay and ambulance patient offload time can impact the next patient

in the field so if so in terms of the how you began the response explaining what a

emt fire personnel what the responsibilities are once the patient is dedicated to wall

space they're basically just raising their hand they're getting the attention of others if the

patient deteriorates or right you know has some more progress of their acute condition

what would you say is that the qualifications then for let's say you're going to invent a job

you're going to have a job description for that for that person regardless of you know what their

their background is whether they're emt's doctors nurses if if that's what you're telling us that

that is the responsibility once they're on on the wall why couldn't you have a volunteer someone

you know or someone that's entry level in the hospital system take on that responsibility

thereby freeing up the the emt and and and do so with the acknowledgement that that's going to be at

some reduced cost to the hospital systems so and i can speak to this on both sides of the house i

can speak to it from an ems side and on a hospital side so we have we have great work that's being

done with sac metro fire we have um sac city fire where kevin's here right here um who have entered

into a partnership with some of our private ambulance providers where if you have multiple patients

that are on a wall it you don't need to have multiple paramedics supervising those people

so you can have you can have wall essentially supervisory staff other typically bls units so

emt's that can come in and can take over observation over numerous patients okay so that that way

freeing up the the paramedic crew to get back on the street to be able to care for that next patient

now from the hospital side of things we've seen some great innovation in this exact space over the

last few months to the last year and i think that that that accounts for a lot of the improvement

that we've seen so our hospitals so sutter our kaiser roseville was the first to really

dive into this in a robust way where they would have an offload zone so a series of beds that

were just in a hallway space so typically where the wall time medics would be uh where a patient

arrives they get the story from the pre-hospital crew they get signed off as being now under the

supervision of the emergency department and then they're moved into that wall decompression space

where you have a tech or single nurse that is able to supervise that that group of patients until

that they are then moved into an actual treatment space then speak to the treatment space so currently

when a patient is on the wall if i'm an emergency physician i can go over there i can i can get

their history i can examine them i can put orders in but there's a there is a a barrier there so

they're getting their care started from my perspective is delayed so even though i'm standing there able

i can't get you to get your chest x-ray i can't get you to give me a urine sample i can't get

you to give me blood all of those things now there's now our hospitals and the ms providers do some

good work to kind of collaborate there but the the nuts and bolts of getting somebody cared for

does not happen when they're on an ms gurney that happens when they're on an ed bed where i can do my

work and so that's why api is important for me as a hospital person that i want to get patients into

the bed space so i can get them started and i can get them the care they need so i have a 100% of

our hospital systems implemented this already so that's a great question so kaiser roseville

implemented um and that was one of their biggest things that they did so other than some cultural

changes within their department to get people to buy into the to the next patient idea so they were

able to get people moving in the in that direction the next hospital that did this and it's even more

dramatic and impressive than than kaiser roseville kaiser roseville again largest emergency department

one of the largest emergency departments in the state a ton of resources you know nurses physicians

texts for days then you shift fast forward you shift over to mercy san juan medical center i

don't know if anybody's ever been in mercy san juan medical center his emergency department but

it is probably about the size of the space that us are standing in here and they care for the largest

pre-hospital ems volume in the county i'll say that again so the the number of ems transports in

the county it's the highest at mercy san juan they had some of the worst apot times now i think in

november there were 21 minutes and it is because they did this this they call it apot alley so

their central hallway they've gotten nurses that have just committed to this process texts that

are committed to this process to get patients off of the gurney's ems gurney's quick put them into

this pre this loading area where they can be seen and then they can get shifted over to the actual

place where they're going to land later so we've had two i know in the my hospital i work at kaiser

south sacramento the the the nursing staff there is working diligently to replicate some of the work

that's being done in roseville i know that the kaiser system there's a there is discussions at

a regional level about implementing those types of changes across their entire system and i'll

call out morse avenue kaiser i actually think that they went under 20 minutes in the month of

november from the worst in the county so again these these these work but again i work i worry

that we're working harder not smarter and that we need to try to get in the durable systems changes

that can keep us there great thank you okay thank you dr can i don't see any more questions from the

board is at the end of your presentation i think that's it for me thank you so much thank you do

we have public comment we do have public comments our first speaker is john broodnick okay and just

and if we could we're really pushed up against a serious deadline for a future next item so or

an upcoming item so if we could try to represent a group let's jay for example if you're wearing

a uniform that looks a lot like the people who are around you um and just uh kind of try to represent

the group as much as well as you can sweet arm repetition understood thank you for your time thank

you my name is john rinicki director of ems of metro fire and i am representing our ems system

both public and private in my comments and remarks which are focused solely on gratitude

collaboration and an ask for your support for the next phase of this dr can stole a lot of my words

unplanned but i'm glad um he was able to answer it first off my gratitude towards you all of your

staff at the county that's been focused on this topic and supporting us um based on the questions

and comments and dialogue that just happened uh i'm very much appreciative it shows the engagement

and and uh desire to understand both sides and positions um also want to share gratitude to the

hospital systems um it truly has been great collaboration and a good partnership that we've

had meeting with uh meetings led by the lemsa and dale ainsworth um as one big team yeah we have we

see things differently and we have different views but it has truly been a collaboration with uh rose

from sutter roseville along with the kaiser and mercy santa wans and all the systems um it truly

has been we are excited for where we are those numbers um are great our ems folks on the streets

share with me regularly asking questions of what happened at this hospital or that hospital

i'm not waiting as long it's not as frequent it's phenomenal

the ask is this continued focus on this ab 40 and what our standard is going to be

i heard some questions about comparing us to other counties um and as the leaders you are

and as the lemsa is i i challenge us all to look at how we're going to set the standard in the bar

for the state ab 40 gave the the ability for each county to look at their community their

hospitals their resources and geography and decide what is best for our county and no other

task or race or competition that i'm aware of do you measure your success before you reach the

finish line just in comparison to where everybody is and so i encourage us to do the same i know my

time is limited but the last last moment you're speaking for an important constituency in this

issue so i'll give you a couple more minutes thank you so much i appreciate it um i give you our

our goal is to continue to work with our hospital partners we know that it's a difficult position

to be in when they don't have space and staffed but we are excited about the progress we've seen

the many examples of reaching under 20 minutes and so our desire and ask is that you continue to

support dr can in our county with being the leaders we are and establishing the standard

leaning on the examples we've already seen from hospitals that we can achieve 20 minutes not 100

percent of the time we know that and to your question um supervisor serna about the examples

i'm not going to focus on examples of the negative outcomes but we did have one yesterday where we

had a seizure the patients on the wall for two hours and they start seizing again on the wall

those are challenges for us and we in our focus the whole time as i've shared with all of you

is we are focused on the next patient and the patient and their life is our priority

and i'll close with this in the fire service when we respond to a structure fire we've all

seen the news clippings and the media stories about when we save a life and we pull somebody

out of a building when our crews respond to those fires it's in all of our minds that there is a

life in that building our priority is life somebody's loved one somebody who can't help

themselves and we don't move on to the next party of saving the building until we know everybody's

out the correlation to ems is every single dispatch is a life party we know somebody's there

somebody's loved one somebody who can't help themselves somebody who needs our help and

that's what we want to do we want to continue this great effort we've had the success and

momentum and continue to be able to respond without delay get our ambulances off the wall

as a team and respond to the next patient thank you so much thank you very much next speaker please

good morning border supervisors my name is trust and ike i'm a 30 year practicing emergency

physician as you can tell by the color of my hair it's left a long time ago um i live in district

three i'm the medical director for consumer's fire department in district five on behalf of

consumer's fire department and chief red ricas we want to thank you supervisor heum for all the

work and unwavering support you have given us over the years and for your work on apod

why am i here i'm here to support the current standard of 20 minutes because it's a patient

safety issue and i'm going to tell you two stories the hospitals both the ems public and private

have done excellent work and we decreased the time and we'll continue to work together but here

are my two stories over the last three years dispatch has gone down to zero medics in the system

three times what did that result in there was a patient that's having a cardiac arrest at the

airport undergoing care but the closest transporting agency was 30 miles away there was a pediatric

respiratory distress the closest responding agency was 26 miles away so it does impact us on the

daily someone say why not put more ambulances in the system well that doesn't solve the problem it

puts more ambulances in the system it puts more ambulances on your wall it doesn't solve the apod

issue lastly i'm going to give you one from one of my um crews at a 50 year old with chest pain

complaining of chest pain for several hours was transported in had ekg changes concerning

for a cardiac event had an arrhythmia got into the hospital should have gone directly to room did not

not at 30 minutes not at 20 minutes but at 12 minutes after getting an ekg just to confirm

what we already knew that patient went into cardiac arrest the patient ultimately went to a room and

got treated and no adverse effects but these are the day-to-day toll of having wall time for our

crews thank you for your time thank you doctor next speaker please

hi i'm alex schmaltz i'm coming today actually as a uh a member of the public i live about a

mile down the street and then somebody who really deeply cares about the care that our

my loved ones our family everybody around us is receiving i also have a bit of background that i

think uh kind of flushes out the my perspective i'm an er doc who's been practicing in sacramento for

a little over eight years um i'm the medical director for sacramento metro fire and i am the

stanislaus county medical director so the is the greg can of stanislaus county um if i can make that

analogy um i'm also a member of the public health advisory board for you guys at the sacramento

county um so i have a little bit of context and something i care very deeply about um i think

everything that we do revolves around patients so i'm gonna kind of hub this story around the

patients that i took care of um i can think of dozens of these examples but the the one that

kind of most stands out to me was a middle-aged man actually not much older than i am maybe five

years older than i am came in was on the wall waiting for a room for about half an hour um

unfortunately he went into cardiac arrest he underwent about an hour of cpr and he died

couldn't bring him back i wasn't the doctor taking care of this patient um but i was the

doctor who was there when his wife showed up and when i was telling her about the patients and the

howls of grief and agony that just came out because she kept saying he was fine he was fine

and that is one of the worst moments of my career and that will stick with me for the rest of my

career and the rest of my life and i can't help but think that if that patient got into a room and

got the care earlier that may not have happened um sorry my nose just disappeared but um as as the

medical director for stanislaus county i know that we we face a similar problem our apot times

were very similar when i came in there about two years ago they're close to 60 minutes for the 90th

percentile every hospital has gotten under that 30 minute period can you wrap up doctor yeah um

this is a goal that is achievable um there are counties where many counties where the all the

hospitals are under 20 minutes they do not have more resources or better hospitals i think it's

just something if we keep working together we can make a huge impact for our patients and

prevent cases like this thank you thank you next speaker please

mr jensen you have up to four minutes thank you i appreciate that good morning or maybe it's

afternoon now it's been a good session i'm brian jensen with the hospital council and i represent

the hospitals that serve sacramento county and rozo which is in the emergency medical services

agencies jurisdiction i want to begin by saying it today is the day of celebration i was here 13

months ago when we had the same conversation and it was it was dire and we were very concerned

and there's been a lot of concentrated focus from the leadership level at the board and the staff of

the county as well as everyone in the room and i have genuine respect and affection for my friends

here because it's a very difficult challenge that we've all been dealing with for a long time and so

it really is a time to celebrate i want to commend the county for three things you've you've

supported the right programs like mobile integrated health like the infrastructure investments in

behavioral health you've supported you've supported the right policies like triage to

alternate destination and the 5050 protocol and you supported the right approach by bringing in

dr. ainsworth to facilitate conversations with the ems providers in the hospitals to really

grind away at this problem from a very granular level and that's what it's taken

hospitals have also done their part there have been literally many dozens of individual adjustments

to staffing to operational procedures and to internal alignment from the ed to the in-house

part of the hospital from physician staff to the nursing all those kinds of things that are so

complex they've been ironing out individual things bit by bit by bit and and we're seeing the

results of that we're confident that the hospitals in sacramental can reach a 30 minute standard

it's a stretch goal and it has been based on history but we're getting there we're doing it

and that would be in compliance with ab 40 uh i will say that there are a couple of things

that keep us from seeing the 20 minute standard the county now has as a reasonable expectation

i think before we talk about enforcing this and holding hospitals accountable for meeting 20

minute standard there are at least two things that need to take place number one we need to

ensure the data accuracy and integrity of apod data and as we look into it we find out there's a

lot of discrepancies some of it is structural because of the way our our data systems are

and the county is working on a plan by having its own repository that will dramatically improve that

the growth factory innovation challenge that we've engaged with together with everyone in this room

have identified a technological uh solution to that by automating and and increasing the data

accuracy of those times which if you're going to be held accountable to something you want to make

sure we're talking about facts and not an approximation of facts the other thing though

that i think we are already on the path to doing is expanding the collaborative effort that the

county has led through dr. ainsworth and bringing the parties together to really have a singular

focus on operationally making changes that work however there are at least two sets of

participants or or partners that are not in the room yet and i would urge the county to extend

dr. ainsworth's contract into next year and expand the the group at the table to include

managed care plans and skilled nursing facilities because apod is largely a front door symptom of

problems beyond the hospital's control outside of their back door with some assistance by us all

coming together like we have at the front door and focusing on the broader continuum of care

ensuring that there are safe destination points for the people who no longer need acute care

that are being held longer in hospitals because they're not being directed to a the safe next step

and so they're held longer which backs up things through the hospital to the front door the people

holding the keys to the back door of the hospital are the health plans and the skilled nursing

facilities and other post acute providers let's bring them all to the table let's continue this

work and a year from now i would love to see us near that 20 minute mark however before we hold

hospitals accountable to that we need to take those steps thank you thank you sir next speaker

good morning welcome i'm rose clangel register nurse i'm the emergency director at satter rose

fell medical center and i'm the satter health chair for the apod committee today's apod number

represents the collaboration of the hospital the lemsa ems agencies and fire the decrease the

decrease is more than 50 percent the 20 minute standard from 2014 was from the california hospital

association and collaboration and it was prior to a pandemic it was in prior to the increase in the

volume of patients that are seeking medical care in our community that need our services

patients don't arrive one at a time we can arrive up to 20 to 30 patients in an hour up to 10

arriving by ambulance in an already impacted emergency apartment that's why it is so important

for all of us to work together to meet the demands of our community we all want what's best for our

community and we will all want to offer timely care and we all want to um the way we have proven

it works is by working together i believe you're going to see a video which highlights as brian

was talking about the work that we've done with the growth factory and that really is with the

collaboration with everybody in this room having one common goal of looking at what kind of tools

could we use to have transparency of that data right now we don't get the data until the next

month 10 or 11 days after that month starts so it's really hard for us to be able to pivot as a

community to make sure that we have those resources available we don't want patients on our wall

we don't want patients who are having chest pain who are um not who really need that acute services

we want everybody to be seen we want the 85 percent of our patients that are walking in the

15 percent that are coming by ems we want everybody to be seen timely so it's really important for us

to be able to continue to collaborate together and i really want to thank the lemsa dr can and

davie our ems um assistant chief redickey all of us for coming together and really having that common

goal because 13 months ago we didn't think we were going to get to where we are today and here

we are now so just continue to work together thank you rose next speaker please

good afternoon um my name is peter hall uh i've served in a variety of different roles but i

moved to this community 28 years ago to be an ER physician in setter roseville

which at the time was down on sunrise if sure some of my friends in here remember that as well

and that's uh something really important to remember is that many of our emergency departments

exist in areas now that are incredibly fast growing and accommodating those changes is

really challenging another important thing to remember also is that an emergency department

is open to everybody it's part of the reason i've always loved being an ER doctor we see everybody

who needs to see us we're we're going to take care of anybody who walks through the door and sometimes

you have to realize as much as we rely so much on our pre-hospital uh colleagues uh some patients

will arrive by private uh auto and not ones that are stable uh sometimes family members will

panic and they will bring in a patient who is incredibly sick or even dying uh and they will

be really really um not thinking clearly and drive in to the to the ER with that patient

we need to see everybody i think uh an important thing to remember is that um the emergency department

is there to serve everyone uh and often the sickest patients come to us uh by ambulance but

sometimes they don't we have to be able to accommodate everyone that comes through the door

only about 15 percent of our patients will come by ambulance and so we need to make sure that we're

able to be to be ready to take care of everyone that comes in and we're dedicated to that i can

promise you uh i'm very proud of the service that i have and i've been able to serve in a variety of

different roles now with Sutter i'm now the chief medical officer in the Sacramento area

and uh we work very hard as as brian jensen said to make sure that we're working every day to have

the emergency departments available to take care of everyone thank you doctor you're welcome that's

the last public speaker that i see supervisor sirna thank you uh i know that this is uh just a

report that um we're receiving today but i want to thank everyone who uh took the time to wait

patiently and be here and speak and help us uh think through um what i think is uh actually a

good um an overall good situation right the fact that we can all as someone said celebrate the

success that's occurred thus far um i do think that um you know setting an objective uh below

the maximum what the state would set for us is probably the right um way to consider this

but i also wanted to take the time and uh as others have to publicly thank supervisor hume for

being our supervisor our board of supervisors leader on the subject we oftentimes the five of us

take up uh matters um sometimes as a matter of division of labor uh but uh i think um oftentimes

it's you know of great personal interest and so uh thank you um supervisor hume for um staying on

this and uh look forward to your continued um you know involvement in in this is uh what i would

hope would be a shared interest in the 20 minute standard thank you supervisor hume uh i saw director

let's come into the podium do we want to were you the only thing i wanted to highlight to the board

we didn't have time to show what we think is a great video from no you don't yes so well i was

going to ask the clerk if we could probably link it into the the board item and i'll be happy to send

it out to everybody and send it out to us so yes that'd be great thank you thank you and again i know

we're up against a time constraint so i won't belabor the issue uh too much further but i do just

again when i extend my congratulations for the work that's been done in the effort uh that has been

made uh it has been substantial and it has to be sustainable as i think uh dr can was mentioning

but you know the ultimate solution is not just creating better throughput for the existing funnel

and i appreciate uh brian jensen's points about you know making sure the information is good

and making sure that we have the capacity and throughput but the big biggest capacity we have

to have is adding more funnels and a lot of that as i said uh earlier comes through a legislative

fix that that expands our our tad capabilities the reimbursement we do have to add those voices

at the table of the folks who aren't here who are critical pieces to all this we're going to have an

item on the agenda i see dr portious in the in the audience uh relative to well space and standing

up a new center that's going to provide some of that capacity so i i agree now is not the time to

take our foot off the gas hold that higher standard out there but but please use it as uh as a carrot

and not a stick uh while we work on these we're finding some of our existing processes so thank

you all for the work that you're doing thank you supervisor and thank you all for being here that

came out today appreciate what you do every day but sitting through and uh you know this important

item so thank you very much for being here and with that we're going to take an item out of order

we are against a hard deadline so we will take uh madam clerk night number 83 next okay that is

the tarasina at wild hawk the execution of bond documents up to 45 million approval to amend the

budget to authorize the execution of a construction and permanent loan agreement with usa properties

for 9.2 million approval to provide 1.4 million in county fee offset program funding to sacramento

housing and redevelopment agency and authorize shre to execute a loan agreement for 1.4 million

with usa properties good afternoon chair members of the board whitney hinton with sacrament housing

and redevelopment agency staff is requesting approval to enter into an agreement with the county

of sacramento and then usa properties the developer for the impact fee waiver offset fees and approval

of the final loan and bond documents for tarasina at wild hawk project in april the board approved a

9.2 million dollar loan commitment and issuance of the bonds for the project tarasina at wild hawk is

a new construction project located located on a 6.9 acre vacant lot at 9756 gerber road the project

will consist of six three-story buildings and one standalone clubhouse there will be 145 one

two and three bedroom units affordable to households who earn between 30 and 70 percent of

area median income usa properties will serve as the developer and usa management company will

service the property management company the project is scheduled to close on financing mid december

and construction will start immediately this concludes my presentation and staff is available

any questions you may have thank you very much i don't see any questions from the board is there

any public comment i don't have public comments okay i will say um you know this is proof that

there's not one way to do anything uh you know i want to thank you our planning staff and you

know the various staffs and shra uh for uh coming up with this and uh making it possible to to go

forward with what's really a great project and meeting our needs for affordability and all of

that so thank you very much all of you to worked on this and i will um move the item was that okay

thank you please vote unanimous vote okay supervisor thank you for taking it out of order

all right so now we're back to item 80 and um this is the authority to execute a revenue agreement

with advocates for human potential and well space uh and all the other actions therein that are

reflected on the agenda good morning or afternoon now board um tim lutz director of health services

happy to bring this project forward i'll say that this really represents the strong partnerships

and collaborations that we have um built up in sacramento this um this b chip or behavioral health

infrastructure or capital improvement program um funding originally um was a county um project

that was going to be in supervisor humes district unfortunately the when we originally scoped the

project and then increases in construction costs were such that um it was really going to be out

out of our reach to be able to build a new facility um where we had intended and that project could

have completely gone away however well space health um stepped in and said they could complete the

project within the original grant scope and so we've now um almost six months of negotiations

with the state to come up with a an agreement that everybody's comfortable with um and really

really happy to be able to bring this project forward and and fruition um it'll um provide

mental health um rehabilitation center beds 32 um beds which is a sub-acute facility something

that we've identified as a key and critical gap within the county and so very happy to be able

to bring this forward um dr um jonathan portias is here today to talk also about this project but

also the broader scope of the the stockton boulevard work that well space is doing and

kind of how this fits into certainly our behavioral health continuum of care but also our our community

and um the different levels of care that well space is provided so i'll uh ask jonathan to come up

and i think he has a presentation to walk through with you thank you welcome dr portias thank you

thank you it's great to see everyone thanks for having me and i will try to make this as quick as

i can we're not nearly the hurry as we were 15 minutes ago so okay and i presume that when it

points to the right i can just click this to move the slides forward i'll try it okay i'm uh

dr jonathan portias thanks so much for having me i'm this chief executive officer of well

space health and it's a pleasure to be here to talk about our wellness campus in general i've been

serving this community for over 20 years now i've tried to build the best science-based

interventions that we can have in our community i've tried to start with the least fortunate people

at the center of my focus and then work my way out um i should say it's not been a lonely road

it's been a road of partnership and uh luckily my name doesn't start with an m so i'm not retiring

today but um some of our friends with m names um these have been great partners for us also

i should acknowledge ben av and petra linden who are here with me incredible partners

in our work our mission is achieving regional health through high quality comprehensive care

and it's regional and it's in partnership we're one of sacramentos oldest social service providers

dating back to 1953 when we talk about the warren e thawnton facility on bradshaw

warren e thawnton was a founding board member of the family service agency which is a progenitor

organization of ours when you think about epi's great race that actually was specifically

created to fundraise for the acquiring effort which is the progenitor organization of ours so

we've braided multiple organizations to bring that integrated care package that we think

complements what the county does um and what the region needs and so that's a lot about what this

wellness campus is about we as an organization currently have 125 000 patients served in our

community health centers we have over 400 000 visits a year with about 1400 people seen every day

and importantly our 988 crisis suicide and crisis lifeline is growing as a result of an increased

988 advertising and the youth of that line and we currently are going beyond 150 000 calls texts

and chats annually we have health centers across the region i think just this map is rather bare

bones but you can see we've put multiple different types of health centers across our region and this

partial list is 20 things that make up a partial list of things we do maybe i'll just point out four of

them primary care 125 000 sacramento beneficiaries on the medicale plus about 10 000 uninsured persons

birth and beyond a critical piece of who we are as an organization a whole continuum of co-occurring

substance use and mental health disorders treatments and the 988 suicide prevention and crisis lifeline

important to us is the infrastructure how do we bind our organization we do that with with quality

and what i call administrative proctology um and my favorite group is the joint commission they're

rather invasive they come um and scrutinize us closely we're accredited three ways by the joint

commission for primary care for behavioral health and now for our certified community behavioral

health clinic we're also certified on top of those three accreditations as a patient centered health

home and behavioral health home and then we have additional accreditations with the american association

of suicide ology and international council for health plans i'd like to call us a confluence of

care we know what a confluence is here in sacramento that is the american and the sacramento

rivers coming together and our health our community wellness campus really reflects that

we're developing a marquee regional community wellness campus in sacramento county to provide

comprehensive medical dental behavioral health and supportive services primarily to people

insured with medicale with a focus on expanding behavioral health and recovery continue to

care to vulnerable people we are of the community and in service to this community i think that's

pretty obvious the community wellness campus is intended to meet unmet local and regional needs

bolster program access and serve as a template for how our community builds a recovery oriented

confluence of synergistic care one component which we've touched upon in various ways actually this

morning most recently with the alternative destination discussion is the community wellness

campus will follow the substance abuse and mental health service administration national best practice

for behavioral health crisis care uniting typically disparate aspects of care to provide

uninserved underserved people with high quality comprehensive care across the region specifically

the model unites our system of federally qualified health centers the region's largest medical

behavioral health system in california's second largest 98 crisis center on a campus large enough

for co-location of these key services now to the pictures you can see here that this is actually the

campus the community wellness campus you can see stockton boulevard on the right

riser avenue above and morris and creek winds its way around the back end the left end of our campus

the bottom of the campus is actually also the city and the county line so we've tried to be

accessible to the county and and the city the existing buildings on this campus listed as a

one through three and d add up to 70 000 square feet of unfinished space which will allow various

projects to move forward very quickly the remaining land is eight and a half acres and has been

compacted and prepared for construction so it's shovel ready for various projects needing rapid

ground up construction in the next slides you'll see various layouts of this campus i'd i'd i'd

suggest you look at that traffic rotary that circle in the middle there um so it can kind of give you

a sense of where we are on the next few pictures first i'm just going to touch on the governor's

safe state community the sacramento county will open soon with first step communities as the operator

the safe state community has access to this undeveloped piece of land until june 30th of 2027

you can see here you see the circle there in the middle or part of one

so this is just south of that circle and there will be five villages in the safe state community

with a buffer space between stockton boulevard to the right and the front of of that safe stay community

in this design you can see how the campus is going to develop over the next five years

immediately below the traffic circle is where the safe state community is and where the parking

structure and and buildings flanking it will go up i'll let you know in a few slides when the

construction actually is going to begin in timeline but you can see access to the far left

of the campus remains open with the safe state community since construction of those buildings

to the left will begin while the safe state community is still there

various residential rehab and withdrawal management programs will be built into the two

structures on the far left in fact we've already received a 16 million dollar b-chip award from

the state and as you know various local dollars um that that you've committed to this project

for which we're terribly grateful the mental health rehabilitation center today's focus

is to is part of the b-chip funding allocation and it's the building at about 11 o'clock on that

traffic rotary with the bright green patch on it the 988 community crisis communication center

will be in that large building on the top the top floor of that will be a 988 call center we serve

32 out of 58 counties and that is where we're going to receive all of those mental health and

suicidal crisis calls plus perform dispatch because there's an increasing integration between 988

and 911 and again that fits with our idea that we're re-engineering the crisis response system

and creating an appropriate place for people to go the crisis receiving site the crib will be in

addition to the one we have over the road here and it'll be downstairs in that same building

it'll represent an expansion of our 24-hour crisis receiving work which is especially salient

with alternative destination where we people who don't actually need to be in a psych facility

or take up an acute care bay in a hospital will be able to go 10 000 visits drop-offs to the site

over the road in three years three percent went to the hospital 10 000 three percent we'll also

have an expansion of our outpatient services we have an extensive slew of services for substance

use and co-occurring disorders with the county our ccbhc and also our federally qualified health

center and ultimately we'll have a housing entity down on the bottom right there we plan on a senior

housing supportive housing site for elders in the local southeast asian community since this is

little Saigon this is the mental health rehab center that you are considering today we have a

three-story structure and we have built the top as the outdoor space that provides dignity and

privacy to the person staying in that facility we've designed this closely with with a

traditional provider of these services and this will we will simply be the landlord for this facility

which will be run by the county and a county contractor our confluence extends to partnership

we partnered with ourselves partnered with the county with the city stocked in below our partnership

the state of california advocates for human potential and amity foundation

we also have a confluence of funding which we think of as a complex funding ecosystem

b-chip behavioral health continuum infrastructure program this has been a major major program

i want to be candid this is like gold or probably something better than gold for us 22 23 years now

i've been here trying to find ways to build programs and this program came along the bit

that i am a little cynical about and i just want to request your support we need the indigenous

providers of this community to be getting those dollars we need people who've been here in the

in the book good times but also the bad times we need the nonprofits who you have helped raise

over these decades and this is a great time for what one of my colleagues would call um poverty

speculation where people sort of step in and start saying well there's a whole bunch of money out

there for these programs but we really need to remember our roots and who's been grooming

these programs and who's been nurturing these programs over time and if we need to consider

other programs we're happy to support other programs coming in that have the same kind of

dedication to the community but just in terms of funding b-chip round three that's the money you're

considering today with this mhrc b-chip round five is the 16 million dollars we got to start

raising the residential rehab facility prop one the bond b-chip funding uh round one we have two

applications out to build out the crisis continuum and also augment the residential rehab and withdrawal

management detox services so you'll see these funds really needed in this context we're also working

on a bond b-chip round two plan where the county and other counties are looking at what's needed

out there what youth services might might have economies of scale across a region rather than

one county and it's been fun to kind of start imagining with with your colleagues here in

in the county we're getting into new markets tax credits which is one other form of leveraging

the funding and bringing in funding into our funding stack and so we'll be bringing those to

the campus direct investments through gifts and generosity of community partners and obviously

conventional loans i think it's really important this this project is in the city i guess uh

much of the work we're doing just that infrastructure work that we've spent the whole of a year doing

to to change parcel maps subdivision condominium maps has been this incredible partnership with

with your county executive and his his team so dr wallets in the city it is surrounded on three

sides by the county thank you very much yes i am not as um able to know that as you are so

you got me um and i i just you know we we are here together doing this and this is a partnership

and this will be a partnership we're not really interested in doing

what we think is good for us we're just focused on what we think and we know in partnership is

good for our community and our region so thank you and thanks also to any of my staff who are here

thank you dr portious is there any other presentation to be made

nope okay thank you um is there any public comment we do not have public comments for this item

okay i will say that um thank you doctor for being here and giving that concise presentation on a

very complex uh subject um this is an amazing i i i akin this to in supervisor desmond's district

what we're doing on watt avenue as far as a game changer for the county of sacramento um and

we've got you know that campus up north this campus in the south um you know delivering services

to the direct area which are badly needed but also revitalizing an area in another respect

and uh you know being a part of the community um yeah i'll give an example uh the well-spaced folks

made a conscious decision not to build uh food facilities significant food facilities that are

going to be needed for this so that they could contract out with with local restaurants and

businesses um you know well space has made a commitment to that area and uh is going to be a

huge benefit for us from a health perspective but a community perspective as well so thank you for

supervisor desmond thank you uh mr chair and i want to echo a lot of those same sentiment this is

this is an amazing what we're what you were doing here and dr portious want to thank you for your

leadership tenacity creativity um it's amazing how integrated and comprehensive this campus is

going to be and you know when i first got elected i like a lot of people went out and visited you

know haven for hope and you go to places programs in other parts of the country in other parts of

the state this this and hopefully eventually the the campus on watt avenue these are the places

where people from other states and throughout the state of california california you're going to come

visit because they're going to see that these are really game changing uh programs so i'm very

excited about this very supportive about what this is going to do and those little kind of details

that you mentioned in terms of uh not providing food services there but committing to the local

community and also looking at opportunities for both permanent supportive housing nearby

and affordable housing nearby uh it'll be great to have that geographically approximate to these

locations too so uh very very supportive of it and thank you for for all your efforts and the

efforts of county staff like to move staff recommendation please vote unanimous vote

okay uh before we get to the next item that's which is 81 we're going to actually hold that

over until the afternoon session so we'll schedule that for two o'clock and so that takes us to 82

for item 82 you're acting as the board of supervisors and the housing authority of county

of sacramento this is the approval of the 2025 sacramento housing and redevelopment agency

proposed budget and adopting a multifamily loan and mortgage revenue bond application schedule

good afternoon take it can everyone hear me good afternoon uh chair kennedy and my supervisor

vice chair supervisor serna is really happy to be here and i just want to say my name is sasill

nunley and i serve as the vice chair of the sacramental housing and redevelopment commission

i also serve on the agency for aging for area four again as part of a representative from

phil serna and i am an aging senior as they would say and you see my dress here i just came from

the gym literally so i was exercising and trying to keep that health because health is so important

and not just for aging seniors but it's also important from the standpoint of the housing

and you have housing for seniors which is a significant component of the sacramental housing

and redevelopment agency because so many of us are on fixed income as i am and we just see barely

the colas that keep hopefully keep pace with inflation but then you have health costs that go

way above so it's just with a great honor that i'm introducing the sacramental housing and redevelopment

proposed budget and hopefully for your acceptance s h r a operates on a calendar year and the

current operating year will end december 31st the agency prepares its annual budget and presents it

to the commission and to the governing boards the budget presentation includes updates from each of

the agency's core department functions which focus on goals accomplishments and projections for the

coming year between august and november the agency staff presented us the following 2025 budget updates

to the commission they included revenue trends and projections at administration department housing

choice voucher homeless innovations and housing authority as well as development and on november

20th the commission approved the 2025 sacramental housing and redevelopment agency proposed budget

on behalf of the commission i would like to commend a s h r a staff for presenting budget reports that

were very thorough informative and for being responsive to any of our concerns or recommendations

from the commission i am very proud of the hard work that has been done by the commission and all

agency staff throughout the budget process and achieving s h r a's mission to provide affordable

housing opportunities to sacramental residents i also would like to say given the current

political environment and reality that we are now facing both staff presented a very comprehensive

overview of what the potential could be for our group going forward so in closing i would like

to ask s h r a direct finance director iran dijon and executive director lachille dosier to present

the agency's 2025 final budget for your approval thank you thank you

thank you vice chair nunley uh good afternoon chair canady members of the board i am iran

dosong director of finance at s h r a and i'm pleased to provide a brief overview of our 2025 budget

our proposed budget is balanced our fiscal year runs january through december and we're

estimating about 419 million in total revenue for 2025 as in previous years vast majority of those

funds will come from the federal resources um that represents almost 302 million or about 72

percent and then the remainder 28 percent or about 117 million will be coming from state and

local resources in terms of our proposed expenditures those total 327.1 million majority will be

committed to our HAP payments which is housing assistance payments followed by capital projects

at 61.2 million salaries and benefits at almost 34 million services and supplies

with about 23.3 public services at 5.8 followed by debt service at 2.3 and financial transactions

at 0.9 million the next slide provides a brief comparison of the past of the four years of our

budget trends as you could see we're coming back to the pre-covid spending trends as compared with

2024 our proposed budget is slightly higher about 1 excuse me 1.4 million or 0.4 percent

and this is mainly attributed to the net impact over housing assistance payments

and the next slide provides a 10-year snapshot of the housing assistance payments trends as you

could see since COVID those have gone up and the HAP payments are primarily based on the

utilization of our vouchers as well as the costs of housing and as you could see here since 2020

those costs have increased significantly also it's important to note as we are converting

our public housing portfolio into the RAD which is a rental assistance demonstration units those

additional units will be generating vouchers for us so the trend will continue in the upcoming year

of higher revenues and then conversely on the public housing side as those units from the

portfolio are being converted into the RAD program you will see a slight decrease on this revenue

side and so this concludes a brief overview of our budget highlights and I will turn over the

presentation to Lachelle Dozier our executive director. Thank you Angela so I keep talking

with my hand so sometimes I can't do all those things at one time. I'm Lachelle Dozier executive

director for Sacramento Housing and Redevelopment Agency and I just like to say provide highlights

kind of the big picture looking at what are we seeing at the state and the federal level as it

relates to housing and all of the resources that we receive. As Irene just pointed out the majority

of our funds do come from the federal government so we're always very keenly aware of exactly

you know what's going on and what are some of the opportunities and challenges with that

but before I go into federal I think I want to start with just the state. In the state we have

four billion dollars have been committed to housing affordability and homelessness. Governor Newsom has

done an excellent job of focusing on homeless housing and has provided you know a lot of resources

and information and funding. One billion of that is our HAP funding and we all know that that is

what's critical that we use to help support a lot of the homeless shelters that we oversee.

500 million goes into low-income housing tax credits which is a part of all of the funding

mechanisms you know we call it lasagna layer funding because you need so many different

pieces and components to make affordable housing work so there's been continued commitment of that

in terms of the 500 million dollars and then the 418 is the competitive funding another source of

funds that we use to pull together these projects but more importantly is the 2.2 billion dollars of

home key funding. We've been very successful with home key over the last few years. We have

projects that are literally under construction as we speak and we are gearing up for the NOFA that

just came out on last Thursday I believe it was no Thursday was Thanksgiving so it must have been

Wednesday and we have projects that we are getting ready to submit for consideration. We've been as I

said very successful if we are successful in our next two home key rounds then we will be up to eight

home key projects that we have been able to initiate which translates to hundreds of individuals

who've been able to get off the streets as a result of that program. So now let me turn over to

what's going on at the federal level because there's a lot going on at the federal level.

Is there? Yes. Yes there is. The federal level we are we have a lot of challenges just to be honest

and we are currently operating under a continuing resolution so that continuing resolution goes until

December 20th of this year and it's very unlikely that Congress in this lame duck session will

actually come up with a budget so this continuing resolution will expand into going to next year

which has happened in the past. Our initial kind of what we're hearing is that maybe in May that we

might receive a budget if not there is a possibility that we could be under a CR for the entire year.

So what does that really mean? What impact does that have on us? It has a lot because that means

we are being funded at the previous year's level of fiscal year 24. Obviously our costs continue to

go up and I'll talk a little bit more in terms of how we're going to adjust within this budget with

those uncertainties. The other issue is the impact of on our vouchers. As you know we are in a

shortfall situation like many other housing authorities across the country and at the chart

if you're you know that Irene showed that our expense level did not meet our revenue level so

there's a gap and that's what the shortfall is. So we are continuing to work with HUD and the

shortfall team. They have calculated what that gap is. It's about 4.5 million dollars that we receive

to help assist with that through the end of this fiscal year. However the issue is that under a

continuing resolution and not knowing exactly where our funding level is that we really have to be

extremely conservative. So in meeting and talking with HUD the way that they were able to address

the shortfall was to take money from all their other accounts. So we kind of said wait a minute

you've taken the money from other accounts that really need it but they know that the

shortfall is the biggest priority. They started out at 200 million at last count. It was well over

400 million dollars that was needed. So as a result of taking money from those other funding

sources to close the gap the impact in terms of next year means that they don't have a cushion.

So that is very alarming that you know HUD which is a billion dollar agency doesn't have any type of

wiggle room so hopefully we'll get to a resolution soon in that regard. The other thing that was

pointed out to us is our emergency housing vouchers which we received those during COVID for

homeless individuals who are on the streets. And it was a 10-year voucher program. We were informed

that it won't be for 10 years that those funds will run out in 2026. So that was pretty alarming.

So that is another challenge and hurdle that the housing authorities have to figure out and work

with HUD in terms of how the funding is for all of those individuals who are housed and living

you know out there on the private rental market. The other thing too is that's going on is transition

of their major financial systems that they've had for decades or in the midst of really transitioning

that if there are large changes and upheaval it will really impact you know how we communicate with

HUD which is through those systems and how we actually receive our funding because it calculates

our funding that comes to us. So a lot of unknowns and a lot of challenges but in terms of how we've

used the information that we have to our budget for next year if we go to the next slide is really

take a very conservative approach. Given the fact that we're not quite sure exactly when we'll receive

funding we have been very very conservative in pulling together this budget. We have made decisions

that we are going to delay in terms of hiring in certain positions until we actually know exactly

what our financial outlook is. The other thing that we are doing and have done is really focusing

on the use of technology. So in light of not actually having a lot of additional resources

then we have made sure that we are using technology to our full extent. We have put in different portals

so that our clients are able to do things online. We have increased the technology availability for

our landlords so that they can transact into a lot of things that they need to do without having to

come into the office or transmit a lot of paperwork. So we're still continuing to lead very heavily

on technology and will in this upcoming year as we look to transition a lot of our major systems

over to new platforms. The other area too in terms of this budget is how do we advocate and how do

we really push at the national level to make sure that our elected officials know what impact this

has back in Sacramento. So our national organizations are gearing up for extreme advocacy and education

and outreach to our congressional members who the ones from Sacramento have been very, very open

and really understand the need to make sure that we get a budget, we get a budget on time and that

it covers all of the valuable programs that we're running. The other area that we're also working

on is the 10-year roadmap for public housing. That is a committee that was formed to really address

the public housing inventory that has been deteriorating over time. We get money but it's not

enough to keep it up to the level that we need. That's why we embarked on the program like Mirasol

Village because it reached the end of its useful life and so we had to really start over. But we

still have a lot in our inventory so we're using the RAD program to convert but on the national

level what we're doing is taking all of that information that housing authorities have done

for their transformations like RAD and CNI, Choice Neighborhoods Initiative and really coming up with

what is the number that we really need to be funded at so that we don't lose valuable units.

That's the challenge that we have is creating new units but preserving the units that we have

because if we only focus on one then we're going to start to lose units on the other end.

It's the balancing act that we need but we feel it's important that we as an industry

communicate to Congress as well as to HUD what the appropriate level of funding is.

So those have been kind of our approach and what we have put together in terms of this

particular budget as I said very conservative. Once we receive exactly you know where our funding is

then we'll be able to make adjustments accordingly and those are the major things that I have.

Okay. That I'm available for any questions. Any questions from the board?

I'm not seeing any. Are there any public comments?

We did not have any public comments. All right. Board is there a motion?

Chair will second.

Thank you, Lyshelle. Thank you.

Next item. Our next item is item 84. This is a request for review of hearing officer's decision

in the matter of Asian flower massage. And we do have an interpreter here to assist the applicant

or the appellant.

Good afternoon honorable chair and supervisors. My name is Blake Sequera with county council

on behalf of the Department of Finance and the Sheriff's Department.

Before you today is an appeal of the hearing officer's decision in order revoking the massage

establishment general and special business license belonging to one U doing business as

Asian flower massage in district three. Before we begin with the appeal the board needs to take a

vote on the conduct in which this hearing will be held pursuant to the county code staff request

this hearing be conducted by oral argument only. I did speak with the appellant. She does not have

any additional documents to submit. I will make that motion. Second.

Oh. The unanimous vote with those members present.

Thank you. In appellants appeal marked as exhibit B of your record the appellant did not

allege any error pertaining to the hearing officer's decision as required by Sacramento

county code. Staff's request is that this board adopt the findings and orders of the hearing

officers as those of the board themselves and deny the appeal request upholding the revocation.

The hearing officer's findings and orders are in exhibit A of your record. The facts as

established by testimony and evidence presented at the hearing are that on April 10th of this year

Sacramento county license inspectors performed an inspection at the business establishment.

During the operation it was found that the appellant was in violation of the county code for

six different violations. This included unlicensed massage providers, incomplete massage logs,

and various other establishment related violations.

Three months later the county did a reinspection on July 11th.

Inspectors conducted a follow-up inspection and found seven violations of the Sacramento county

code many of which were continuing violations from the inspection three months prior including

having two unlicensed providers evidence that massage providers were living at the establishment

and having incomplete and illegible massage logs and registers.

The specific facts are outlined in more detail in the decision which is exhibit A and the county's

initial record which is exhibit C of your record. After review of the file from both the inspections

performed by business licensing inspectors the Sacramento county sheriff's office determined

that the actions of the licensee exposed patrons of the business to substantial harm,

risk of criminal deceitful or unethical practices, and that the licensee is not abiding by the

Sacramento county code. The Sacramento county sheriff's office moved to revoke the business

licenses on September 3rd of this year. You can see that in exhibit C page seven of the record.

The licensee in this case appealed the determination to this board and asked that this board

reverse the hearing officer's decision. However in the appellants appeal which you can see in

exhibit A, I'm sorry exhibit B of your record, the appellant admitted to the violations but

asks for special consideration to allow for continued operation of the business.

Staff requests that in light of this admission and in light of the hearing officer's findings

and orders that the revocation is upheld and this matter is adjudicated. I have staff from

the Sacramento county sheriff's office and business licensing available by phone and in person if the

board has any questions. Any questions from the board at this point? Okay as the appellant here to

make a statement of something.

That's a no. That's a no.

Okay.

You can pull the microphone. My name is John Yu. I have a small business in the Sacramento

McConaughey Avenue Asian Flower Massage. I'm owner.

I want to continue my business. Actually I know everything my fault. I know

I see I accept all those assertions. I agree that's my fault but because I didn't manage

as well of my business but I just want you to get a chance to get back the license. I can continue

my business like business. Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay. Yeah. All right.

Okay. Thank you Mr. Chair. Blight can you just please clarify a couple things? I'm sorry

Supervisor before we do that we don't have any public comment on this. We do not. Okay.

Thank you. Just to confirm how long did the appellant own the business before the first

inspection? The license was first issued in 2022 so approximately a year and a half.

Okay and just looking at these and it was three months between the first inspection where

six violations were found and the second inspection when additional seven violations

were found. Is that correct? That's correct. Okay. I move staff recommendation to deny the appeal

and uphold the revocation. Second. Okay we have a motion and a second. Please vote.

You're now on this vote. Thank you Supervisor. Thank you. All right. Is that our morning?

I've lost track. That concludes our morning sir. That concludes our morning session.

We do have closed session so we will recess to close session.

We'll come back into session. Would the clerk please call the roll?

Supervisor Frost? Here. Supervisor Desmond? Here. Supervisor Hume? Here. Vice Chair Serna? Here.

And Chair Kennedy? Here. We do have a quorum with the member Sprezzner. First item please.

First item is carried over from this morning. Item number 81 is to approve the financing

district local goals and policies as a replacement to the current second amended and restated county

of Sacramento special assessment and community facilities district financing program local

goals and policies. Good afternoon Chair Kennedy and supervisors. Colin Bedis your county debt officer.

The item I'll be presenting on now is the recommendation to approve the county of

Sacramento's new financing district local goals and policies. The reasons why we are

recommending a replacement of the current policy include the following to update the policy to

bring it into current standard of formatting to update the policy to mere current Melrose law for

community facilities districts to streamline the formation process for financing districts

and to incorporate a policy for tax increment financing districts. The most significant change

is the addition of the tax increment financing districts which when formed would redirect

future growth of property tax revenue and vehicle license fee revenue from the general fund to

specific uses that benefit properties within the financing districts. The recommended guidelines

include limiting the formation to infill or brownfield areas avoiding greenfield areas unless

the board determines that there are exceptional public benefits requiring a positive fiscal impact

as determined in a fiscal impact report unless the board determines greater public benefit.

Capping the tax increment and VLF allocation at 50% limiting the tax increment financing

district terms to a maximum of 45 years ensuring that funding is committed to infrastructure within

the established operations and maintenance funding allowing the county to terminate the

tax increment financing district within 10 years if the project area doesn't develop as anticipated

provided that bonds have not been issued ensuring that county contributions to multi-jurisdictional

tax increment financing districts do not exceed contributions from other participating cities

ensuring that the number of county representatives to a multi-jurisdictional tax increment financing

districts is greater than or equal to the representation provided by participating cities

and providing that unincorporated area will be the primary focus and priority for the formation

of such districts or the district shall have significant county have significant county wide

importance in addition to tax increment financing districts other recommended changes to the county's

financing district policies include aligning it to the current law and the county debt policy

changes to the advanced funding agreement process allowance for the self-certification of prevailing

wage requirements and relaxing the requirements for property owners holding 10% or more of land

within a district to provide a letter of credit to be a county determination based on market

conditions at the time and finally it defines the process for determining the nonprofit organization

that would benefit from a bold allocation when bonds are issued for a bold CFD while updating

these policies county staff shared the draft policies with various stakeholders and received

feedback and while we accepted some of the requested changes we did not accept all

some of the recommendations from various stakeholders were to broaden the policy to allow

for tax increment districts to have the maximum duration allowed by law and to allow for the

maximum allocation of tax increment there were also recommendations to define certain aspects

of the policy in greater detail however many of those details would be district specific and would

not be beneficial to get into that level of detail within a policy document the county staff

recommendation presents a balance between flexibility and providing clear guidance on

forming financing districts that would maintain a benefit to the county general fund growth

and provide certain safeguards to ensure the policies serve the best interest of the county as a whole

and this concludes my presentation thank you call on is there any questions

do we have any public comment

I do not

all right I will say I think this is a great step towards transparency and predictability for

everybody and you know you've left it not you're not it's not so prescribed that it's not nimble

but yet it still lays out clearly you know what we're going to do and so good good work thank you

thank you

next step

looks like we need to take item on this oh yes I'm sorry we're at Dr.

really sure

any item passes next item please

next item on the agenda we're going to read into the record items number 85 and 86 together

the item is for PLMP 20203 that 00089 is mission avenue apartments west in a pill of the planning

commissions effective denial of a development plan review density bonus incentive concessions

or waivers and design review for a property located at 3537 mission avenue in the arden

arcade farms community and also plmp 20203 00087 again mission avenue apartments east

and a pill of the planning commission's effective denial of development plan review

density bonus incentives concessions or waivers and design review for a property located at 3532

mission avenue in the Carmichael old foothill farms community so Kimber just to be clear we're

going to hear both items together and we'll also hear public comment on both items at the same time

correct thank you

thank you

all right good afternoon chair kennedy and members of the board my name is kimber goutieres

i'm a senior planner with planning and environmental review and i will be presenting both mission

avenue apartment appeals so that is east and west i also have christian balthazar's name

up on the powerpoint slide because he is the project manager for the project and has done

all the work up to his point so just wanted to acknowledge all the hard work that he's done

up to now all right um so i am going to start just kind of going over the location and setting and

community context for both of the project sites um so starting with location and setting um the

subject sites are located on mission avenue mission avenue does serve as the dividing line

between the arden arcade and the Carmichael old foothill farms communities the mission west project

which is on the left side of the screen is a 1.6 acre parcel located at 3537 mission avenue and is

in the arden arcade community it is also currently developed with two single family dwellings and

then the on the right side of the screen we have the mission east project site which is a 1.05 acre

parcel the address is 3532 mission avenue and it is in the Carmichael old foothill farms community

and that site is currently vacant

the project sites are within the mission oaks neighborhood preservation area

mission west has an underlying zoning of rd 20 and mission east has an underlying

split zoning of rd 20 and rd 30 um properties on this particular stretch of mission um are

predominantly commercial office uses um toward the intersection of mission and engulf to the north

and then higher density residential near the intersection of mission and whitney to the south

the immediately surrounding area to the mission west site is um general office uses to the north

single family uses to the south um condominium community an undeveloped land which also includes

the mission east project site to the east and single family residential and vacant land to the west

the immediately surrounding area to the mission east site is developed with a condominium

community to the north apartment complex to the south mixture of condominium and apartments to

the east and single family to the west so i'm going to start with the mission west project

details and then i will follow those with the mission east project details i'll then end with

the planning commission hearing summaries as well as details on the filed appeals and then

ending with staff's analysis and recommendation before i review the entitlement request for

mission west i did want to note that a code enforcement violation was opened for this parcel

on october 2nd of 2024 the violation was for junk and rubbish on the project site this violation

has been remedied and the code case was closed therefore there are no active code cases associated

with the mission west project site the applicant is requesting a development plan review pursuant

to the mission oak's npa for the development of non-single family residential use on property

described in the npa a density bonus incentives concessions or waivers for a qualified housing

development as allowed under the affordable housing incentive program and then lastly a design review

to demonstrate to determine substantial compliance with the sacramento county countywide design

guidelines um to elaborate on the density bonus and incentives concessions part of the request

the applicant is requesting a 50 density bonus two incentives concessions and four waivers

included as attachment three of the hearing packet is a list of the requested incentives concessions

along with the applicant's justification for each item and then attachment four of the hearing

packet contains a breakdown of the density bonus and incessive incentives concessions calculations

for the project so as you will see the project does have three incentives concessions available

however they are just requesting two throughout the rest of my presentation i will point out the

areas of the site um and of the proposed project where a deviation is being requested through an

incentive concession or waiver um here is the proposed site plan for the project which consists

of the construction of a three-story building to accommodate a total of 48 units five of those

units are proposed to be very low income units a handful of deviations proposed relate to the

building placement and facade so the first waiver i do want to point out is for the rear yard setback

the zoning code calls for a 75 foot rear yard setback to the west um which they are proposing a

56 foot rear yard setback the two incentives concessions being requested are for our multifamily

design guidelines the first states that buildings shall be designed to offset windows between facing

building elevations and then the second is all units adjacent to common spaces shall have a kitchen

living room or bedroom that provides windows overlooking such spaces so there are areas of the

proposed building specifically in the courtyard area where this both of those standards are not being

met the site will continue to be accessed from mission avenue which will lead to a parking lot

consisting of 64 parking spaces for both tenant and visitor use tuck under parking is proposed on

the southern side of the building there are two waivers being requested related to parking

those include standard parking stall sizing and total number of parking spaces the project is

proposing more compact stall sizing than what is permitted and the parking ratio proposed is

approximately 1.3 spaces for each dwelling unit which is below the standard parking ratio

so just to be clear the total number required for this site given the number of units and the types

of number of bedrooms for each unit it's 66 spaces required they are proposing 64 so two spaces short

lastly a six foot tall wooden fence is proposed as perimeter fencing to the northwest and south

here are the proposed landscape plans the project proposes street frontage landscape

planners with street trees on mission avenue and parking lot planners with shade trees to meet

the parking lot shading standards a picnic table barbecue and benches are proposed to be provided

in a common area courtyard in the center of the building and this is shown as an enlarged image

on the right side of the slide a total of 32 trees would be removed all of them are rated as fair

or poor condition in the arborist report and the plans also show the addition of 47 new trees to

the site with the proposed development the last waiver pertains to perimeter landscaping so a

minimum seven foot wide continuous landscape planner is required for multifamily residential uses

in all cases the they are proposing a seven foot wide planter to the northwest and south

however there aren't any wheel stops provided so vehicles will overhang so it does reduce that

allowable planting space by two feet so they are essentially five feet in width

here we have the east and south elevations for the building the proposed height of the building

is 34.33 feet which meets the rd2 rd20 height standard

here we have the north and west elevations for the for the building this is where you can kind of

imagine a little bit better the the two incentives or concessions being requested they are the west

shown on the west elevation so the kind of the two interior elevations would be facing each other

and would have windows facing each other and lined up not offset

this is one of two sightline exhibits this exhibit is depicting the location of the viewpoint of

the next exhibit which is a person standing on a third floor balcony on the southern side of the

building closest to the existing family residence to the south here we have the second sightline

exhibit which depicts a couple of things the first of which is the viewpoint from the person

standing on the third floor balcony and then another one being the height of the screen trees at

planting which is shaded in gray and then the non shaded tree is at 15 years of growth

the last exhibit is a rendering of the proposed building on site or building on site this this

view would be heading looking south on mission avenue towards the project

the arden arcade community planning advisory council met on january 25th of 2024 and recommends

recommended that the planning commission approve the requested entitlements with the request

presented on the slide so they asked for a number of things to be looked at in addition to the project

itself that vote was a four yes to no one absent responses to these individual requests have

been provided on pages 15 and 16 of the june 10th planning commission staff report which is

attachment 21 of the board package and then the design review advisory committee met on january

11th 2024 and recommends the planning commission find the project in substantial compliance

with the design guidelines excuse me kimber yes supervisor desmond thank you mr chair i'm going

to hold most of my questions till after you get through both these kimber but i think it would

be helpful if you think you could very briefly hit on those c-pack recommendations just kind of the

highlights of what your findings were in response to those recommendations i think that'll be

important and they would apply to both projects obviously yes

okay so um the first was the request to expand the public noticing radius from 500 feet to one

mile we did determine that expanding the mailing radius would be cost prohibitive and would set a

precedent for infill housing projects moving forward so we we kept with the 500 foot mailing

radius for these projects for the comprehensive greenery review the applicant didn't provide that

sightline exhibit that i just went over so that details the trees on the interior property lines

and kind of the impact the third floor balconies could potentially have to the project and neighboring

sites the third was the heat map of criminal activity within three blocks of the site a community

crime map which was provided by the sheriff's office website does show that the site is not in a

high crime area i do have a later slide with that visual so i can pull that up later and then the

onsite management plan um we did kind of inform the applicant team to reach out to the property

owner for an onsite management plan this management plan is not a required application item nor is it

a zoning code requirement so it would be at the discretion of the property owner to provide that

i thought that they did

i'll let them speak to that when they come up to talk and then the traffic study on mission avenue

the project the project combined with the east project so both of the project combined would

not generate enough new daily trips or new peak hour trips to warrant a traffic study be conducted

so that's they had less than 1000 new daily trips and less than 100 new peak hour trips

we did include dot's letter in the report as well i also have some additional slides later on

talking more about the traffic counts that were conducted in 2023 for mission avenue at wittney

avenue so i can go over that more later in the presentation the heat map of transit stops i also

have a visual of that later on in the presentation there are a total of four bus stops along mission

avenue within walking distance of the proposed sites that's two northbound and two southbound stops

the sequa document prepared for the project it was determined that a notice of exemption was

prepared and has been included that does not require a public review period or public noticing for that

and then project elevations with sight lines again we went over those sight line exhibits

and have those provided in the powerpoint and you'll have one of those for the east project

for east as well thank you okay so moving on to the east project site

so the subject site does have two previous planning entitlements it includes the approval of a

15 townhome project which is called mission manor townhomes it was approved in september of 2006

there was also a five-year time extension approved for the project in february of 2017

the necessary permits and development were not completed prior to the map expiring

which was on february 27th of 2022 so it did not move forward and then on september 17th

of this year a code enforcement violation was opened for the parcel the violation was for junk

and rubbish on the site that has been remedied and the code case was closed so there are no

current active cases associated with the site so for mission east the same entitlements are

being requested the development plan review pursuant to the mission oaks npa a density bonus

and incentives concessions or waivers for a qualified housing development as allowed under

the affordable housing incentive program and then a design review to determine substantial

compliance with design guidelines for this project the applicant is requesting again a 50

percent density bonus two incentives concessions and six waivers again attachment three has the

list of those detailed out with the applicants justification and then attachment four has the

breakdown of the density bonus and incentives concessions calculations similar to the last

project this one does have three available incentives concessions the applicant is proposing two

let's see moving on to the site plan so this project consists of the construction of four

three-story buildings to accommodate a total of 33 units four of those units are proposed as very

low income the first waiver i wanted to point out is for the side yard setback so the zoning code

calls for a 15 foot side yard setback and to the south on the south property line is where that

deviation would occur and they're proposing a 10.2 foot side yard setback the two incentives concessions

being requested are similar to the last project they're for multifamily design standards the first

is the offset of the windows of building elevations facing each other and the second states the trees

lattice trellis structures and or decorative masonry walls shall be incorporated as part of the

carports to minimize visual impact i will provide the elevations later in later slides to kind of show

both of the buildings window placements and then decorative features for the carpets are not being

proposed for this particular site the site will continue to be accessed from mission avenue which

will lead to a parking lot consisting of 42 parking spaces for both tenant and visitor use

there are three waivers being requested related to parking which include the standard parking

stall sizing the total number of parking spaces and parking and paving directly touching a residential

building so the project is proposing more compact stalls than what is permitted the parking ratio

is one space per dwelling unit and there are instances north of building b1 and building b

where the parking area and paving directly touches the building and there isn't any kind of

additional landscaping in between the paving and building and then lastly a six foot tall

wooden fence is proposed to be placed on the northeast and south property lines as perimeter fencing

here are the landscape here's the landscape plan the project proposes frontage landscaping

planters with trees along mission avenue and parking lot planners with shade trees to meet

parking lot shade standards a basketball court is proposed between buildings b and c near the

southeast corner of the lot this would serve as a site amenity and would also serve as the fire

turnaround for the site the site currently has a total of 26 trees which would all be removed

and are rated fair or poor in the arborist report and the plans show the addition of 35 new trees

on the site with the proposed project and then the last waivers being requested are similar to

the last project pertaining to the seven foot wide continuous landscape planner they are

not proposing any wheel stops so that two foot overhang into the landscape planner would limit

the planner to five feet instead of seven but seven feet is proposed

um here we have the building elevations from all directions for both proposed building bees

so since the building bees are proposed to have a mirrored floor plan elevation two which is the

top right would be facing elevation two for the second building so that's where the offset of

the windows is not achieved as the windows would all line up with each other

on screen now are the building elevations for proposed building b one building b one and both

buildings b will have a peak building height of 38 feet and seven inches

and here are the building elevations for building c

and then this brings us to the sight line exhibits um so this one depicts the viewpoint so this is

particularly looking at someone standing on a balcony on building c looking to the east

and this is closest to where the condominium community and the apartment complexes

and then here's the second sight line exhibit the first showing the view line of someone

standing on the balcony and then again the trees at planting so shaded in gray and then the trees

at 15 years of growth which are not shaded and then the last exhibit I have is it for the projects

is the rendering um this is showing south again south on mission avenue looking at the proposed

project site frontage the Carmichael old foothill farms community planning advisory council met on

January 10th of 2004 2024 and recommended the planning commission approve the requested

entitlements with a recommendation that the proposed wooden fence be replaced by an eight foot tall

masonry wall that vote was four yes one no and one recusal the design review advisory committee

met on January 11th 2024 and recommends the planning recommended that the planning commission

find the project in substantial compliance with the design guidelines and then also during that

drac meeting staff did um did bring up the c-pack recommendation to replace the fence with the wall

to which the drac member stated that they felt this would take away from the neighborhood feel

of the area and were not in support of that recommendation or that change to the project

okay so the both projects were first heard by the planning commission on June 10th of this year

mission east was heard first and then following staff's presentation 28 members of the public

spoke in opposition and one member of the public spoke in favor of the project comments included

concerns regarding increased criminal activity increase in traffic pedestrian safety potential

to decrease property values concerns with loss of privacy given the height of the structures

and an over concentration of apartments in the area following the public comment period

for the mission east project the planning commission did vote to continue the item to a date

uncertain for staff to research and provide additional information regarding the following

items cumulative transportation impacts potential for on-street parking to be used safety of the

whitney avenue and mission avenue intersection overall state of the transportation network

including transit in the project area and additional analysis of the standards that

are physically precluding the proposed development and what constitutes physical preclusion

supervisor serna oh okay continue no problem i mr. chair i'm sorry i actually had a good

question on that last bullet supervisor desmond thank you what is that what is what does that mean

i i don't understand what that last bullet means yeah so um

the when defining the term waiver um it talks the the government code specifically uses the

term physically precluding um so essentially essentially how we defined it and i have the

slide later but um the the term physical complete preclusion comes from government code section 65915

e and it's what it's used when defining the term waiver so if someone's coming in for a waiver and

they're deviating from one of their standards it has to be the development has to be physically

precluding from them doing that standard so they have to show improve that it's not physically

possible for them to achieve that standard with the with the site and with the proposed project

okay the number of units and also i'll just cover this now um so we don't have to go over it later

but the the government code does not provide a definition for physically precluding so um by

law when a statute does not define a term we go to the ordinary meaning um so the word physical is

defined as having material existence perceptible especially through the senses and subject to

the laws of nature of or relating to material things and then preclusion is defined as to

make possible by necessary consequence so rule out in advance um so therefore in the context

the development standard at issue would be tangibly make the construction of the requisite

density impossible okay all right so um after

so okay so yeah so after they voted to continue the item with this additional information that they

wanted um wanted us to research staff did not provide a presentation for mission west

given the amount of discussion had for mission east um so although we did not present the project

in accordance with the brown act the planning commission did open the public comment period

for mission west um we did have a total of 11 members of the public speak in opposition to

the project and the comments included concerns regarding increased criminal activity increase

in traffic pedestrian safety potential to decrease property values concerns with loss of privacy given

height of structures and an over concentration of apartments in the area um so following the public

comment period planning commission did vote to continue to a date uncertain to allow staff to

research those additional items um so these next eight slides that I have do provide visuals and

additional information in response to the planning commission's requested items we have touched on a

number of them already so I'll kind of just kind of go through and touch on anything that I haven't

covered yet um so the first was analyzing cumulative transportation impacts of both projects

taking into account established and proposed projects surrounding the project site

as I stated this is something similar to what the cpaks had requested the ardent arcade cpak

requested um so we did coordinate with dot who prepared a trip generation letter that included

both projects and it did state that the projects would be exempt from sequa um vehicle miles

traveled study because the site does both sites exist in a vmt efficient area and then given this

oh sorry they also calculated that both sites combined would generate 670 new daily trips

and 71 am peak trips and 76 p.m peak trips so this is less than the thousand new daily trips

and 100 new trips during the am peak p.m peak hours needed to require a traffic study

superveter desert so I will fill up on this follow up on this one since you have it up here

so and maybe this is a d.o.t question in in terms of looking at the trip generation

and the traffic counts um I'm just curious just the historical context of this area because I know

you know there used to be a hospital right down the street on angle um and and there was

la sierra high school right down the street also on angle and you know I've lived in this neighborhood

my entire lived in this area my entire life and remember when those were both in existence and

there was a lot of traffic in that area I'm I'm curious from a d.o.t perspective do you take

into account that kind of that historical context and the traffic conditions I guess that that existed

when those roads were built and both the hospital and and the high school were were open Cameron

and how does it how does it relate to our guess our analysis today in the context of these projects

Cameron she principal civil engineer with the department of transportation so as far as the

um the historical uses that's taken into account um as part of the general plan roadway designations

so when we size all the roadways and determine what's going to be a two-lane or a four-lane road

and general plan that's all kind of based on the zoning of the properties and what land use

anticipated there in the future as far as the traffic study thresholds though we just based

it on the existing conditions so what's out there today okay okay because it I mean obviously I've

thought a lot about these these projects have a lot of discussions but it does it does occur to me

that those those roadways have been in that same configuration that same size from when those other

uses were in existence on angle is that correct I mean they haven't not changed since I don't

believe we did take a look at the cumulative traffic numbers for that area and as part of

the general plan and the existing traffic count we have on Whitney today is about 7500 cars a day

it it build out of the general plan it's only really supposed to increase to about 9500

based on the current growth projections in that area so we're not really projecting a huge amount

of traffic increase there in the future which is well below the capacity of Whitney Avenue to carry

okay all right thank you

so along with the traffic generation letter DOT also provided data on a traffic count that was

conducted at the intersection of Mission Avenue and Whitney in March of 2023 the traffic count

concluded that the north leg of Mission Avenue has a total of 2,815 northbound and southbound trips

and that based on the road classification of a residential collector the roadway does operate

at an acceptable level of service

the planning commission did inquire as to why on street parking was not included in the total

parking proposed and directed staff to provide additional information on this topic upon review

of the zoning code it was determined that visitor parking may be satisfied with on street parking

spaces on the property or on adjacent street frontages at a one-to-one ratio however affordable

housing projects are not required to provide visitor parking so given that there are no visitor

parking requirements for affordable housing projects on street parking cannot be used to

satisfy the off street parking and have not been included in the total number of parking spaces proposed

while that number of on street parking spaces cannot be used to satisfy the off street parking

requirements the project is conditioned to install class a street improvements along Mission Avenue

so that would include that would include road widening on Mission and both project frontages

would need to construct class a improvements which include curb gutter and sidewalk so on the screen

now the the applicant has provided a cross section illustrating what the ultimate right-of-way

condition would be and as you can see the the frontage improvements required would allow for

on street parking to be available and then this next exhibit is an aerial view of the proposed

frontage improvements and as you can see a total of 11 on street parking spaces will be created

for for the west projects frontage and seven on the east projects frontage

so rather does that say can you go back to that prior slide

Kimber

get my screen up here the one that the one before this

what what's the current width of the roadway now that's a good question

it looks like what 84 feet

beer after the improvements are made right

um

just trying to get a sense of what the difference is going to be

I don't see the dimension on the slide is okay well I mean you can back that so but the what um

how many between both the east and west side of mission um how many additional

I mean what what will be the the length of that changed frontage or the improved frontage there

so it is a

100 feet 200 feet it'll be the entire frontage of just the projects

I'm looking over our dot folks who are nodding their heads how many how many cars how many parking

spaces will that accommodate so the 11 on each side no four on one and

seven on the other okay I mean it is a very legitimate concern that because of the decrease

marginally decreased number of parking spaces that people will be parking in in the neighborhoods

and and I'm certainly sensitive to that but if if because of these improvements it'll accommodate

most of those people to park on on mission I think it definitely mitigates uh that concern in my opinion so

yeah so this one outlines this exhibit outlines the four additional spaces that would be created on the east

project and then here are the other seven that would be accommodated on the west

yeah thank you commissioner desin before kimmer goes on I wanted to get back to one of your questions

uh todd smith planning director the frontages in their existing condition of these two projects

do not currently have on street parking or sidewalks so if we have some aerial photographs that

we can look up online to show just a really a dirt frontage that may be used by pedestrians but

it's probably not very safe all right um moving on to safety of the mission avenue and wittney

avenue intersection on the screen now is a criminal activity heat map that was prepared for the project

site the map illustrates that the project site which is shown with the blue marker right here

is not in a criminal activity hot spot and it indicates that the project site is not considered

a high crime area additionally we had several public commenters raised safety concerns about

the mission avenue and wittney avenue intersection it was stated that the intersection has had many

car accidents and to some it was considered dangerous commoners perceived that the proposed

project would increase the number of accidents at this intersection we did coordinate with dot and

provided a report of all the car accidents that occurred in this intersection for the past five

years which is included as attachment 18 this report concluded that there have been a total of 14

car accidents in the past five years seven of which included or sorry seven of which resulted in

injuries and zero resulted in fatalities um dot also looked at the last 12 months of crashes where

it was identified that four incidents had occurred um based on the cal transmanual of uniform traffic

control devices this is below the number of crashes that are susceptible to correction by a traffic

signal in a 12 month period to address the planning commission's inquiry regarding public

transportation in the area staff did look at immediate public transportation that serves the

area it was determined that a total of four bus stops are along mission avenue and are within

walking distance the bus stops are associated with bus route 82 which operates monday through

friday at 30 minute intervals from 5 15 a.m to 9 15 p.m and on weekends at one hour intervals from

7 16 a.m to 9 16 p.m and then here we just have a visual of the um bus stops near the project

site which are shown in blue circles bus 82's route includes the university and 65th light rail

station and the american river college campus so it provides riders with routes to access um s r

sac rt's larger transportation network

and we covered physical preclusion so i'm going to skip over this slide

which brings us to the second planning commission meeting which was on august 26 of this year

um staff provided a presentation going over all the requested items that i just reviewed with you all

now there were a total of 13 members of the public who spoke in opposition to the projects

and following deliberation and in two separate actions um commissioner borja made a motion to

approve the project commissioner devlin seconded the motion and then with a vote of two yes one no

one abstention and one absent the motion to approve failed um so no action was taken and

it resulted in an effective denial of the project following that august 26 hearing the applicant

team mogavaro architect submitted an appeal to the clerk of the board's office on september 5

the appellants provided a justification statement for the appeal which states the county is legally

precluded from denying the project given no quantifiable specific adverse impacts upon health

and safety have been identified additionally the four justifications listed on the slide now

were provided stating that the planning commission's actions violated a number of laws

this is also detailed in pages seven through nine of the board letter and the appeal form and

justification statement is included as attachment 24 of the hearing packet sir ruther hum thank you

chair i just had a quick question kimber regarding the actions of the planning commission do you uh

do you know or or can you recall what the justification was for the abstention there was no

justification provided at the hearing they just didn't want to vote on it okay

moving on to project analysis um so staff has determined that the proposed projects are qualified

housing developments for the affordable housing incentive program um this does make them eligible

for the 50 density bonus the three incentives and concessions as well as unlimited waivers

although the project is eligible for three incentives concessions only two are being

requested for each project um the just to kind of give a little bit of background to

an affordable housing incentive program application shall be heard by the same authority

as the housing developments other required entitlements so kind of the trigger for the

planning commission's review did fall on that development plan review that is required by the

neighborhood preservation area so all of the the density bonus the um incentives concessions

and waivers all need to be heard by the same hearing authority and the hearing body shall

approve the density bonus and requested incentives for qualified housing developments unless it makes

one of the written findings that is provided um so from that review um the applicant has

established that the requested incentives or concessions are required in order to provide for

affordable housing costs as divide as defined in the health and safety code as well as for

rents for targeted units to be set as specified in the government code staff has also determined

that the requested incentive concessions would not have a specific adverse impact as defined in

government code for which there is no feasible method to satisfactorily mitigate or avoid without

rendering the development unaffordable to low and moderate income households therefore staff

previously determined that the approval of the project is appropriate and is required by law

that determination remains unchanged and the um additionally the planning commission's motion to

approve the project but the motion failing um resulted in a de facto denial this de facto

denial did not result in the planning commission making any of those written findings to deny the

project um so that motion to deny was never made in addition to all of that the projects can be

found consistent with the general plan community plan mission oaks npa and zoning code this project

will create new housing opportunities to meet the county's housing needs um a notice of exemption was

prepared for the project indicating that there are no significant environmental concerns and as

previously mentioned the projects were supported by drak and cpaq therefore planning and environmental

review staff recommends the board take the following actions for each project so you will need to take

two separate actions um to approve the appeal overturning the planning commission's effective

denial of the proposed project recognize the exempt status of the request under section 21159.25 of the

california environmental quality act approve the development plan review approve the density bonus

and incentives and concessions and find the project in substantial compliance with the design

guidelines all subject to findings and conditions um that concludes my presentation the applicant

mogavara architects is available to also answer any questions okay before the applicant gets up

there's questions from the board as reserna thank you thank you kimber for a very thorough

um presentation um so i guess the the the way i want to start out my comments well first of all i

want to say that i um will adamantly uh forcefully energetically be supporting the appeal uh however

i want to um state clearly um that it's really unfortunate that i think we have a bit of um

disconnection uh between this board and and its planning commission on this one

and the reason i say that is uh and this goes to the line of questioning i i i had for kimber during

our briefing on this that um if the planning commission is being educated especially by county

council about um kind of the parameters of discretion that can be applied on something

a proposal like this and there's this weird disjointed um disconnect between the first

and second vote and people are absent and there's an abstention i don't think our planning commission

quite frankly is grasping the gravity of what their decision um their ambiguous decision

uh will do or has uh not just for the board for the public because by way of um effectively denying

the proposal they i think unfortunately give the concerned local community the hope that

there's some merit in the denial but it was basically a denial uh a perfunctory denial based on

uh the fact that you had people absent and then you have an abstention and you know abstentions i

you know this is my personal opinion here abstentions should be used very carefully and very rarely

we are elected they are appointed to make decisions sometimes they're difficult decisions sometimes

they're decisions that you know we're going to piss off our constituents but it's the right thing to

do or in fact it's the legal legally right thing to do the legally required thing to do

and so not only am i going to be supporting the appeal but i also would like to i don't know have the

planning director working with our county executive and mr. de Fonte really kind of look into

is there a way i don't want to be i don't want to be too punitive here or punitive at all against

our own planning commission but i think they need a refresher course there's three of us that have

served on planning commissions up here that um i think understand the gravity of that responsibility

and the fact that you know we're not there to rubber stamp things we're we're there as we are here

to apply um you know our discretion to ask questions uh to make me make sure we understand

the legal guardrails involved with our decisions but this one just it has it really has me questioning

whether or not the the commission itself kind of understands uh what they're doing i hate to put

it that way um but it's time i think for the for maybe a refresher course of some sort for them to

to grasp that and it's not just in the context of of this kind of an uncomfortable place that they

place this this board but we ought to be looking at quite frankly the policy on how many absences

a planning commissioner uh can can have or should have before there's some kind of repercussion

you know there's an expectation that we show up there's you know in my opinion there's a similar

expectation for them to to be present at least as much as we are so um you know it's a frustrating

place to be uh but i just wanted to just as a matter of really addressing the the process here

more than anything uh make those comments and statements and ask for staff's help and assistance

to maybe vet further how we kind of keep this from happening again thank you

thanks sir reather sir reather desmond thank you and unfortunately i only served on a c-pack was

not on the planning commission but um i was also left scratching my head with the lack of action

by the planning commission i mean it seemed to me on the one hand they had very little discretion

really to deny this certainly they could have asked questions like they did in the earlier

hearing and try and get more information but then that also begs the question for me why did the

applicant have to appeal a decision really that the the planning commission wasn't really able to

make but i probably shouldn't be opening that pandora's box with the applicant here in the room

i did a few follow-up questions uh for you maybe i'll start with you cameron if you don't mind just

a couple d-o-t questions that i should have mentioned and kimber i apologize for interrupting your

your presentation you should have said supervisor wait till the end of the power point all those are

going to be addressed so i apologize for that um cameron a couple other things that uh come to

mine and certainly with my discussions with neighbors and my my knowledge of the of the area

there you know you have the two schools you have you have churchill middle school right down the

street and then you have mission avenue you know ones on whitney ones on mission very close by

in any of your traffic evaluations do you have a sense of whether especially churchill because

i think churchill is closer whether there is already any kind of traffic impact on whitney

during pickup and drop off at churchill was that was that part of the scope of anything you looked

at or even anecdotally do you have any information i thought as kimber mentioned um it didn't meet the

threshold for traffic study we did tell the applicant team if they wanted to voluntarily

do one to address some of those concerns um they could do that but it wasn't something that we could

require under our d-o-t policy ultimately they declined to pursue that so we don't have that

specific information okay although we we will be pursuing a grant um or i think we already have

started pursuing grants for whitney avenue to look at class four bike lanes and road died improvements

to kind of speak towards the safety aspect okay there weren't enough crashes to merit

installing a traffic stable but there's other things we can be doing out there okay and certainly

depending on where this i mean that's something we should always keep an eye on you know whenever

we have new development around schools and infill development projects um and and you mentioned

something else um you mentioned the crash data i'm glad you brought that up because i

if you correct me if i'm wrong but i looked at that crash data as well what's one of the exhibits

here and it seemed to me that all the crashes were either property injury uh property damage only or

just complain of pain which is a very minor uh injury threshold is that correct camera did i miss

something with the crash data do you have those numbers i don't have the that's right kimber

it's in the it's in the attachment but that was my when i looked at it i did not see any

like major okay um and then cameron also what about you know one of the concerns i heard

and i know there's some people in the audience today who who maybe don't live right next to this

proposed project they live a little maybe a little further away from it but they are concerned

of the about the the kind of the commute pattern impact for instance people trying to get on uh

business adion maybe they're going uh making their way to go north on walnut for instance

or or other directions is that i mean do you have any sense of whether this increased traffic is

going to have a negative impact on those kind of larger commute patterns of people in the area

trying to make it to to the local freeways so we did do a little bit of research looking at our

traffic model about the likely commute patterns in this project we expect most folks um accessing

the freeway are going to go north on norris uh and get on to either adi eastbound or business adi

westbound um from the operand boulevard ramps it's not likely that too many people will be going east

on whitney unless they're accessing local destinations within car michael like schools or

shopping and some people i'm sure will go south on whitney or mission to get on marconi and take

marconi down to cap city too and then i what about transit you know transit patterns because there's a

lot of concern again about the number of cars but do we have i guess i could ask my rt uh board

member colleagues here is there for multifamily housing and is there any kind of um uh rough

estimate for for a percentage of the residents there that might be projected to use transit i

don't know do you i mean that's that is baked into the trip generation estimates that we do that not

all of them are going to be vehicle trips some of them will be transit trips um as far as a specific

project in the area though i i don't think i can speculate on a percentage okay but you did

provide we did provide the map and there are transit stops uh three or four very close to this

project okay okay thank you cameron so kimber had a couple questions and and you've you've um you've

heard me talk about this a lot you know when these these kinds of infill projects my my my number one

concern you know traffic obviously is an issue and and safety and and aesthetics but i'm always most

sensitive to where you have a new multifamily use especially um uh multiple story project

that interfaces right next to a single family residence like an existing backyard where someone

who's lived there forever and all of a sudden they have someone on an outside you know balcony

looking down into her backyard and i appreciate the some of the uh renderings or the sightline exhibits

that you that you showed here um first of all just to confirm the the height requirements they are

not asking to exceed the county's height requirements correct okay so regardless of whether it's two

story or three story there is a height requirement and they could either do it a two or three story

within that requirement yes so that's i think that's that's extremely important to hit home with that

in terms of kind of those sight lines that you illustrated you you you showed um uh 15 a tree

at 15 years old and then you showed a tree at planting um i'm just curious to are there is there

more we can do to try to minimize i guess that privacy issue between someone's single family or

i guess condo backyard and the third story yeah we we do have in our zoning code minimum requirements

for like kind of the container size of trees that get planted um so there is some options to kind of

include larger plantings when they're first planted instead of smaller ones um so that is an option

they are proposing a six foot tall fence um that is kind of the minimum requirements there may be some

available flexibility there um yeah those are okay and that's and i know we're gonna be hearing from

the applicant and i'll i'll i'll ask the applicant those questions as well so okay that's all i have

for now mr. jer thank you okay i've seen no others uh would the applicant like to come forward this

time so chair kennedy if i could do so and swear in any that would like to address the

board this morning okay so if you had wished to address the board about items number 58 and

anybody 85 and 86 anybody in the audience who's going to address this issue before the board

needs to be sworn in so if you could stand and she'll uh give the oath and you can raise your

right hand and she'll she'll administer the oath so please thank you so please raise your right

hand in the appropriate responses i do do you swear that the testimony you are about to give this

board is the truth so help you god if you do not swear do you so affirm i do so when you go to the

podium please state your name for the record and the statement i have been sworn thank you

thank you proceed good afternoon chair kennedy and the board thank you very much supervisors for

taking the time um i'll just introduce the gentleman briefly to my right uh this is eric price he is

the owner of kjax properties they will be the eventual property manager of this company and he's

going to be part of my presentation today so i just wanted to acknowledge his presence and

i do want to thank kimber and christian for all of their tireless work on this project i think

kimber that was an appropriate shout out to christian you've been a real pleasure to work

with very professional through and through um and thank you very much for the board for the

opportunity to speak about why we think this is a great project for the area i do just want to

really briefly discuss a couple things that were for the record your name excuse me tear my name is

dominic mogu vero i'm here with mogu vero architects we're a project applicant thank you so just a

couple things that were discussed in the staff presentation that i just want to touch on really

quick before i go into mine uh so the property frontages that will be improved the mission

avenue west is 230 linear feet of new class a frontage and mission avenue east is about 160

linear feet um we did provide a management plan in the planning commission a subsequent item as

requested and i actually do have a couple copies of that here but of course mr price is going to

be here to speak to that and that may be a more appropriate play to provide but i do have copies

if you'd like to see them um and then just one quick correction as well i think it was suggested

that the parking ratio on the east side was one to one it's actually 42 vehicular parking spaces

for the 33 residential units at that property so i would just say that mission avenue apartments

east and west are well located and thoughtfully designed residential communities that benefit

the local area and allow residents of these future projects to benefit from the high quality

existing neighborhood as well as mentioned the total unit count between both parcels is 81 units

with a mixture of one two and three bedroom units as also mentioned by staff this includes nine

units which will be affordable to very low income households which earn 50 of area median income or

below this project seeks no subsidy of any sort from the county shra or any other entity

these projects are consistent with and subject to density bonus law as well as the housing

accountability act but most importantly they are great additions to this area and responsible

and well located for new housing now i will say we know based upon recent activity taken by this

board that you understand the importance of developing new infill housing these proposed

projects are great examples of well placed high quality infill this location benefits from safe

neighborhoods high quality schools good parks services and other amenities many of which are

walkable as well this region as cited by staff has a below average vehicle miles traveled score

additionally these parcels have been zoned for three-story multifamily development for over 40

years these proposed projects are consistent with a long-term vision and general plan for these

parcels in that regard the project has been thoughtfully designed to blend in with the

surrounding neighborhood as much as possible including selection of comparable materials

and forms such as brick and lap siding which match the surrounding neighborhood the projects will

also directly benefit san juan unified school district which we understand is busing students

in from more far-reaching parts of the county in order to maintain enrollment but we were not

able to get the exact numbers anticipated we know that these projects will bring new families to the

immediate area reducing the need to bus in thus also saving on costs additionally these projects

will pay almost four hundred thousand dollars three hundred eighty nine thousand dollars to be exact

in school impact fees alone when approved for building permit more generally we know that these

projects will benefit the area they will bring 81 new households to this rather urbanized stretch

of mission avenue completing the development of the final vacant parcels on this block where

existing uses include other multifamily ownership such as courtland lane north of the east side

as well as rental medical office and retail the residents of these projects will be patrons in

the local economy and will be active members of the community it is important to note that only

one single family home exists on this block where the development is proposed and we have approached

the design of this project to mitigate the impacts to that owner this includes setting the building

back as much as possible from that existing single family residents well beyond what was

required by code now i will pause briefly and ask eric to do a brief presentation about his company

kjax properties how they will manage the project and to speak briefly about how they will oversee

and approve tenants as well eric i thank you board uh sworn in uh my name is eric price i'm the

owner of kjax property we manage about 4 000 apartment units in the greater sacramento area i have

about a hundred employees that oversee management and maintenance of properties very similar to this

most of them older and not quite as nice and i'm just here to say that i own a sorry i managed

a number of properties for the developer here they are a good owner that lets us do our job we are

very capable of doing our job professionally and the property will be managed well as a someone who

consults with property owners on a regular basis it seems a little disappointing for it to get this

far to get a development push through we need more housing in the area i see that first hand as

the owner of a property management company i see that first hand as a board member for the

karmical improvement district um and i'm kind of curious why we're here to be honest along the lines

of um what supervisor serna said this seems like a big waste of our time and money and if all the

developments that all of my clients want to build have to go through this arduous of a process

to get an approval we're going to have a lot less development and we need more development

so i'll stop there and we can move on to what you want to finish on unless there are any questions

no thank you so i think one thing that eric i think just briefly forgot to mention was that

new rent residents of the market rate units are typically required to have two and a half to three

times uh average monthly rent for their income and they have a very strenuous approval process

including yeah no i went off on a tangent on my notes i'm sorry if i can there will also be one

full-time manager at this site that lives on site and one full-time maintenance technician

those are two new full-time jobs that will be here so along with housing the 81 families that will

be here there will be two full-time jobs we will also be contracting out the landscape maintenance

and pest control and other professional services with licensed vendors licensed contractors

kjax property is also a licensed general contractor though we don't plan on doing any construction

for this project this time sorry thank you eric no problem at all and i will just say one other

thing that eric shared with me just in regards to the code enforcement and sort of challenges

with the site is there were ongoing negative activities at both of these vacant parcels

they have been a little bit of a magnet for portivity and actually my client proactively

demolished the house on the west side to limit that kind of activity and benefit the neighborhood

well ahead of starting construction frankly before the project was even approved so that actually

decreased her potential resell value of the property i will say thank you eric i think that

you know your perspective and experience suggests further that these projects will benefit the

immediate area in the neighborhood on that note i just want to make a couple quick more points before

we move into deliberation today during public comment you will likely hear from some community

members who want to do all they can to stop these projects that includes all sorts of fear

mongering about low income residents as well as falsehoods about the number and type of

affordable units they will say that the project is going to cause more crime that a traffic study

must be done before the project can proceed and they will say that this project should not exist

in their neighborhood because it will ruin it forever what they won't say is that because they

think that the quality benefits of their neighborhood and let's be clear everyone agrees that this is

an excellent neighborhood to live and raise a family and perhaps should not be extended to all county

residents specifically possibly new renters so in that vein i just want to touch on a few of these

concerns briefly myself in terms of safety as discussed during the staff presentation these

are low crime areas that is one reason we and my client think it is a great location for more

high quality housing more overall surveillance we'll call it eyes on the street benefits everyone

these new projects will have 20 new balconies and patios facing mission

adding stakeholders to the stretch of mission avenue keeping an eye out for bad behavior for

all this is a significantly better condition than the existing vacant lots which we now know have

been a problem of sorts regarding pedestrian safety as discussed again by staff this project

will complete a disconnected sidewalk on the east side of mission avenue and add over 200

linear feet of new class a improvements to the west side of mission avenue these improvements

provide safety for pedestrians of all types but especially children the elderly and the disabled

will also encouraging parallel parking further protecting pedestrians and cyclists and slowing

down traffic on the street regarding traffic as discussed this project will slow down vehicular

traffic by adding class a improvements and as discussed earlier didn't expect such digression

but it has now of course been further solidified that do t does not feel that this trap these

projects require the generation of a traffic study even when viewed in aggregate there will

be some fear-mongering about cut through traffic and how it impacts the surrounding neighborhood

but it's very important to note there are no side streets connecting to the existing neighborhood

from this stretch of mission avenue it only feeds to other collectors Whitney and Angle so the

likelihood of pedestrian or vehicular traffic actually cutting through the surrounding neighborhood

is almost zero more importantly we know that this is a great neighborhood for people to live in

most important opponents will point to some of the older nearby multifamily projects as examples

of why multifamily housing is bad our firm thinks that all housing is good housing in today's

environment but I think it is also important to note that design and management have a lot to do

with how a property ages we've already highlighted the high quality management services provided by

kjax but I think also worth pointing out that these other projects would never leave our desks at

mocavero they do not emphasize eyes on the street they do not embrace the neighborhood they were

built with cheaper looking materials that don't age well add to that poor management and you can

have issues over time this project team is proposing a completely different type of community one

that conjunctively the owner the neighborhood management and residents can all be proud of

these 81 new households will become neighbors as well frequenting local businesses attending local

schools using local parks and services and looking out for their neighbors maintaining and dare I

say improving the quality of life for all in the area I strongly urge you to consider the benefits

of these applications as well as their conformance with an applicability of state density bonus law

and vote to approve these quality projects thank you for your time we do have others from mogover

architects team and myself of course who are available to answer any questions thank you mr

mogover are there any questions okay thank you very much thank you go to public comment

to the first person that we have is amber viegas

hello I'm amber viegas I live over on chamberland at our chamberland way

first I want to say I don't really need anybody to speak for me I'm not here to fear monger

I'm here because I care about my community

and I'm asking you to uphold the npa we love our neighborhood we want to stay the same and what I

say that I say we want to welcome new people but this is a single family neighborhood I think

it's the american dream to own your own property and all this is really doing

is feeding into someone's some rich person from cooper tino who's probably out enjoying on our

tennis courts right now instead of here engaging with the community about what we want and what we need

the reason why it has gone this long is because of her lack of engagement with our community

so just please deny this project as it is written I would love to see new families come in

and enjoy the same things that I have there but the way it is written is wrong it's absolutely wrong

the waivers the traffic

cars on either side what they say 11 that's going to turn mission avenue into a single lane street

please deny it thank you thank you before the next speaker comes up I understand that

in these circumstances emotions can run high people have strong feelings that's completely

understandable but if you could address the board and not members of the audience while

you're speaking that would be greatly appreciated next speaker please next speaker is dev burger

good afternoon my name is dev burger I live in the area in question and I want to bring up a couple

things about safety I believe it was June when we had a meeting a planning meeting and on that

same day there was an accident at the intersection of mission and Whitney it was very serious

on Wednesday before Thanksgiving I was almost killed at the intersection of Whitney

and mission when a car went through a stop sign so the concerns about the safety and traffic

we who live there can tell you that there are cars that go through the stop signs every single day

every single hour and what Kimber didn't mention is yes there are schools nearby but there's also

a nursing home and assisted living so we're talking about people that have to park for all of these

and you're not taking that into consideration nor are you taking into consideration for the

department of transportation that people such as myself who suffer a near miss that's terrifying

we don't get counted in the department of transportation statistics so the aesthetics

bother us we don't believe the privacy will happen easily the traffic safety the parking the

noise all of this is real to us and we want you to know that we have witnessed issues such as

I've shared in this brief period of time that we get to talk that are really not safe for our

community and I'm not talking about crime I'm talking about the traffic and if you want us to

believe that with a couple hundred more people moving in that there is not going to be a problem

with traffic and safety then look at what happened when American River Hospital left and those houses

went in there and there's been a lot of traffic problems I ask you to deny this project thank you