Sacramento County Board of Supervisors FY2025-26 Budget Hearing
Good morning. I'd like to call to order this meeting of the Sacramento County Board of
Supervisors for Wednesday, June 4th, 2025. Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll
and establish a quorum? Yes. Good morning, Supervisors. Kennedy? Desmond? Rodriguez?
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Thank you.
Okay, again I'd like to welcome everyone to this morning's proceedings and of course this is somewhat of a momentous annual ritual that we have here in Sacramento County and in fact local government enjoys that ritual everywhere each year,
which is arguably the most important responsibility that we exercise each year, which is of course considering allocation resources our budget.
And I know that we're going to hear from our CEO in a few minutes, but I do think it's worth mentioning, at least from the chair's perspective, just how important this is.
It's oftentimes stated that budgets are a reflection of our values and I do agree with that statement as sometimes trite as it can be.
But, you know, when you go back and look through the record of the decisions that we make as your board of supervisors to provide what is necessary to fulfill the mission of service and programming and infrastructure and all the responsibilities that we have,
the product of what we do in chambers here today really needs to reflect how we thoughtfully think about those things.
So, with your help, and I know that many of you are here to provide testimony to the board and give us your thoughts and your feelings about how we should allocate those resources,
resources we will hopefully at the end of the day and perhaps maybe tomorrow if necessary come out at the other end with a budget that we can be proud of
and that will indeed for the 25-26 budget year reflect our values.
So, with that, Madam Clerk, first item.
Our first item are public comments relating to matters not on the post-to-day agenda and we do have three speakers signed up.
Okay.
And as before the clerk calls the first speaker, just a reminder,
these are, this is the time of our, during our agenda where members of the public are certainly invited to address the board on any items not on our posted published agenda.
We cannot take any action.
We cannot have any lengthy discussion about the items and that is, again, because of a sunshine law, the Brown Act.
And so, I just want to make that clear just in the event that you think that we may be ignoring you, we are not.
We just by law cannot, again, really engage fully on the subjects that you bring to our attention during off-agenda matters.
Madam Clerk.
Okay.
Our first speaker is Ahmad Salim Abdurrahman.
I hope I didn't butcher it.
Maybe we can come down here.
Good morning, everyone.
My name is Ahmad Salim Abdurrahman.
And I am here today representing Gaitan Resources Incorporation,
a community-based organization serving Sacramento's immigrants, refugee, and low-income families of color since 1980.
Excuse me.
Excuse me, sir.
Excuse me.
I stopped your time, so you're not eating at your time.
Is this about the budget?
Yes.
Okay.
So this is off agenda.
So we're going to hear from you, but we want to hear from you at the right time.
So if you could work with the young lady at the back with the clerk's office,
she will help you better understand kind of when you should come down and join.
I would expect others that want to address the board on that subject matter.
So we want to make sure you're on the record correctly.
Okay?
Okay.
Great.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay.
Our next speaker is Sam Greenley.
Before I begin, mine is about the budget, but it's an item not included in the budget present.
So if it's about the budget, yeah, if it's about the budget, save it for the budget.
Okay.
They directed me to put it on the topic.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Jane
Good morning
Good morning
Excuse me
Chair Cerna
Vice Chair Rodriguez
Supervisor Hume
Supervisor Kennedy
and Supervisor Desmond
My name is Jane Klar
I'm the current chair
of the Juvenile Justice Commission
I'd like to
on behalf of the commission
I'd like to thank you
for giving us the opportunity
Excuse me
It's not about the budget
Are you sure?
Yeah
Okay
So thank you
It's purely
a thank you
Alright
We'll take it
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you
I'd like to thank
Can we increase the speakers?
Thank you for giving us
the opportunity
to present
our Juvenile Justice Commission
report to you
this past January
We truly appreciate
each of you
for taking the time
to meet with us
recently
We are grateful
for your support
in navigating
our funding strategies
and helping us
to sustain
nominal operating costs
As a commission
we want to ensure
that the Juvenile Justice Commission
continues to inspect
and make recommendations
regarding the needs
for incarcerated
and detained youth
Our continued interest
is also with
at-risk youth
in the community
who have come
to the attention
of family court
We again
thank each commissioner
for your awareness
and support
of the work
of the Juvenile Justice Commission
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you
Okay
Now we're on to
item two
For item two
you're acting
as the in-home
supportive services
public authority
This is to approve
the Sacramento County
in-home supportive services
public authority
fiscal year
2025-26
requested budget
good morning
Good morning
My name is
John Kozitsa
I am serving
in the role
of executive director
for the Sacramento County
in-home supportive services
public authority
John can you bring
the mics a little closer
to you
A little closer
Yeah
Thanks
I want to be able
to hear you
That work better
Yeah
Thank you
Okay
So I'm here
this morning
to present
the public authorities
budget
for the fiscal year
25-26
This is a proposed budget
so it is
basically
giving you
a status quo
We're assuming
revenues will continue
flat in light
of the economic
conditions
and the politics
surrounding it
but
I am understanding
that the money
we will get
a slight increase
in the future
However
that will be offset
by ongoing
expense increases
This budget
is really continuing
on some existing
services
regarding urgent care
training
and then some
cleanup on
administrative
duties
So
our budget
currently
and what we were
asking from you
this morning
is a budget
of $4,838,592
and the detail
on that
is I think
on attachment
2
If you want
to take a look
at that
and if you had
any questions
I can explain
some of the
movement
It is basically
we're shifting
accounting
from our fund
into DCFAS's fund
by virtue of
restructuring
and just processing
things a little
differently
There's really
no net difference
in any of that
I wonder if you
have any questions
on the numbers
Any questions
from my colleagues
Seeing none
Does that conclude
the presentation
If that would be
I had one last thing
But I don't have it
so my apologies
that will be it
No worries
Thank you
Madam Clerk
do we have anyone
signed to address
this particular matter
We do not have
any public comments
All right
Very good
All right
With that
bringing it back
to the board
for consideration
of a motion
I will move
to approve
the recommended
action
Second
It's been moved
and seconded
Please vote
Unanimous vote
Thank you
Thank you
Okay
For item three
you're acting
as the board
of supervisors
This is the
consideration
possible revision
and approval
of the fiscal year
2025-26
recommended budget
and also
I'm going to read
item four
into the record
the adoption
of the fiscal year
2025-26
five year
capital improvement
plan
And just a
procedural point
of clarity
looking at county
council
can we take
these together
or should we
consider them
separate
Together
Very good
All right
I have to
look to my boss
All right
Very good
Thank you
Okay
Who's going to
kick us off
here
Thank you
supervisor
Good morning
board of supervisors
David Villanueva
your county executive
I'm here today
with my executive team
and many department
heads sitting in the
gallery behind me
to present the
25-26 recommended
budget
I'll provide a little
bit of an overview
and then we'll turn it
over to our CFO
Amanda Thomas
and she'll take a deeper
dive into some of the
numbers and the policy
decisions
I come before you
today with a bit
of mixed emotions
I'm incredibly proud
of the team
my team
and what they've done
to bring this budget
into balance
however that balancing
requires us to make
some difficult
recommendations
this includes reducing
social services
internal services
parks
animal care services
and our CBO partners
in addition to public
safety
that's just to name a few
while the last five years
have had a period
of considerable growth
for the county
we are now facing
some challenges
that makes it
necessary to make
some tough decisions
to ensure
that our current
reductions are limited
in nature
and allow us to continue
to deliver the fantastic
services that our teams
currently provide
in the years to come
the overarching theme
of this year
is our structural imbalance
that is we are relying
on one-time resources
to fund ongoing
expenditures
despite that
we were able to
balance the budget
and put forth
the county plan
that will put us
in a path
towards fiscal
sustainability
this year's budget
is $8.9 billion
spending plan
and represents
a 2.8% decrease
compared to last year's
adopted budget
this year's spending plan
also includes
a $1 billion
in discretionary resources
and an estimated
$71 million
of fund balance
and that fund balance
represents our
one-time resources
some of our
runtime resources
this estimate
represents a 37%
reduction
compared to last year's
last year's available fund balance
was approximately
$112 million
which $80 million
was used to pay
for ongoing expenditures
this structural imbalance
contributed
to the necessity
for us to make
these reductions
department leaders
took a collaborative
and cooperative approach
as they identified
areas of reductions
while minimizing
impacts of service
to our constituents
departments
recommendations
included
deleting vacant
positions
submitting budgets
that match
the department's
actual cost
reviewing salary
savings estimates
finding ways
to work more efficiently
and making the most
cost-effective use
of alternative resources
and funding
however
after this work
the general fund
reduction
still total
$18 million
which will be
which will result
in 73 deleted
positions
all of which
were vacant
at the time
we prepared
this budget
and finalized it
the general fund
also includes
growth
in the addition
of 52 positions
both those
discretionary
and non-discretionary
resources
were used
to fund
that growth
in the discretionary
use growth
side
it focused
mainly
on critical
services
which is
the top
boards
and reflects
the board's
top priority
which is
county obligations
much of which
went towards
the May's
consent decree
because the
budget
recommendation
does not fund
the budget
does not fully
fund the base
budget
we are not
recommending
putting any
money into
our reserve
that is
putting money
into our
rainy day
reserve
our current
reserve
represents
a 5.5%
of our
general fund
revenues
while our
revenue policy
targets
17%
before Amanda
Flo if you can
put that up there
before Amanda
starts off
with her
25-26
budget review
I wanted to
talk a little
bit about
how we
arrived
at today's
recommended
budget
basically
to talk
about
the
process
that's
something
that
several
supervisors
asked me
to talk
about
the county
executive's
office
sets
targets
and there's
a slide
up there
and I believe
they're handing
something out
to you
the county
executive's
office
sets
targets
for
departments
based on
the budget
outlooks
for the
coming year
we usually
start that
in about
January or
February
of the
year
this year's
budget
target
was to
keep
budgets
flat
or
status
quo
which
is
essentially
a reduction
in everybody's
budget
some
departments
identified
funding
that they
need to
continue
ongoing
programs
and services
departments
submit their
budget
requests
and prioritize
both their
growth
and the
reduction
scenarios
based on
the OCE
budget
targets
several
departments
submitted
budgets
with no
increases
at all
to net
county
costs
and no
impacts
to the
service
levels
the OCE
staff
meet
with
each
department
and reviews
the
reductions
and how
those
reductions
align
with the
board
priorities
and discuss
alternatives
and offer
solutions
if necessary
to minimize
impacts
there's an
exception
to this
process
where we
can
direct
how we
work
with most
of our
departments
or all
of our
departments
we have
no
authority
over the
budget
scenarios
submitted
by the
sheriff
and the
DA
we
accept
their
reductions
and
priorities
as
submitted
while
we
did
discuss
the
impact
and
offer
alternative
the
reductions
in
this
recommended
budget
reflects
their
priorities
and not
the
county
executives
the
OCE
then
finalizes
the
budget
and
puts
it out
to
and
distributes
it
although
this is
a challenging
budget
year
I would
like to
recognize
and
celebrate
many
of the
investments
that this
board
has made
in the
prior
years
and these
are
incredibly
smart
investments
that we've
made
and have
made real
benefits
to our
community
first of all
the May's
consent
decree
we've moved
the needle
on the May's
consent
decree
in recent
times
more than
30 items
have recently
moved from
court monitoring
to now under
court surveillance
or self
monitoring
the county
currently invests
90 to 100
million dollar
annually in
public safety
attributed to
the May's
consent decree
SMF Forward
is another
fantastic project
the first
two SMF Forward
projects
of seven
are under
construction
the pedestrian
walkway
between
terminal B
and concourse
B
and the new
parking garage
next to
terminal B
which I know
everybody can
not wait to
open that
hopefully in the
next I think
it's 18 months
the total cost
of SMF Forward
is 1.4
billion dollars
for all seven
projects
and this project
has no impact
on the general
fund
Metro Air
Park is another
success story
over the past
three years
21 buildings
have been
constructed
at the Metro
Air Park
totaling
6.1 million
square feet
generating
362 million
dollars of
investment
and creating
at least
2,500 jobs
and the progress
continues
out at Metro
Air Park
as we speak
animal care
services
recently launched
pet aid
and wellness
services
or their
paws
to provide
free veterinary
care
to vulnerable
communities
it provides
more than
1,500
exams
and almost
500 spay
and neuter
surgeries
and the
clinic
also delivers
well over
1,000
wellness
services
to those
vulnerable
communities
transportation
and roads
since
2022
we've invested
over 90 million
dollars of general
fund on our
streets
and our
improvements
our street
and roadway
improvements
and overlaid
projects
that includes
included
other work
that we've
done
includes
an additional
375 million
dollars
homeless
homeless
our efforts
to address
homeless
has been
making a
difference
the county
has added
more than
451 beds
to our
shelter system
in less
than five
years
with
442
shelter beds
scheduled to
open within
the next
year
overall we
have a total
of more
than 1,800
beds
both planned
and operational
that the county
is fully funding
or partially
funding
during this
last couple
of years
we opened
our first
safe
stay
which
is
floor
and road
safe
stay
with 125
beds
we also
opened
east
parkway
safe
stay
with a total
of 56
beds
Watt Avenue
is another
great community
that we're
starting
and I talked
with somebody
earlier today
the Watt Avenue
safe stay
is expected
to open
late 2025
early 2026
this will
add 225
sleeping cabins
75
weather
respite
beds
and the
county's
first safe
parking
facility
for 50
people
recently
health
services
received
a 45
million
behavioral
health
grant
or
b-chip
grant
to develop
the Watt Avenue
behavioral
health
campus
this project
includes
behavioral
health
mental
health
urgent
care
with 650
slots
to serve
an estimated
15,600
individuals
annually
along with
a 36
bed adult
residential
treatment
facility
we also
opened
Stockton
Boulevard
safe
stay
we've
partnered
with the
city of
Sacramento
and the
state
of
California
where the
state
of
California
built
the
facility
the
city
of
Sacramento
is
managing
the
referrals
and the
county
is
operating
the
facility
with
175
beds
Grove
Florin
we talked
a little
bit about
yesterday
this is
72
transitional
housing
beds
for
adults
55
and
older
experiencing
homelessness
and
substance
use
disorder
or
severe
mental
illness
also we
prioritize
care
court
participants
for this
priority
population
behavioral
health grant
funding has
been a tremendous
impact
funding many of the things that I just listed off but they've also added at least 147 more beds for transitional housing
beach hip another grant funding that Siobhan's group has been pursuing is beach hip three which Sacramento County is partnering with well space health on a 32 bed mental health rehabilitation center construction project that is estimated to open in December of 2026 black child legacy this year we celebrate 10 years of our black child legacy campaign over the past five years the county has invested nearly 32 million dollars in the black child legacy campaign and
making a real
and
expand passport services for the past six to expand passport services for county residents to date they've processed over 1500 applications and generated almost 100,000 dollars in revenue this by far is not an exhaustive list but we could not have accomplished any of this without your support and your leadership your investments in these critical services and infrastructure over the past several years have made made the community stronger healthier and improved our lives of our residents and it helped communities to thrive
lastly it's important to acknowledge that while I submit the recommended budget the final budget decision rests with the board and we are committed to following that final plan once the board makes that decision.
So before we begin if you have any questions for me I'm open for questions if not I'll turn it back to the chair and I see Amanda over here ready to pounce onto the podium to start presenting.
Thank you david I know supervisor hume is in the queue here to chime in before we hear from him let's do something a little off script but it' s for the general benefit of the public especially the public that' s joined us here today and sometimes we only see these faces once a year but I think it serves as a good reminder maybe if you could introduce the four people behind you that gives a face and a name to the responsibility
that each of your deputy execs has in their various respective spaces for county service delivery.
I absolutely will. On my far left stage left I guess that is.
is dr. Sylvester fadal he' s our deputy county executive over administrative services and that group mainly oversees the internal services but also includes elections and county clerk recorder and several other
departments and some other folks. Next to him is Dave Defonte he is our deputy county executive over community services and he represents all the public works roads water and all the services and he's key to the development review process and he's made making tremendous progress on that.
Next to him is Siobhan Kathari she is our deputy county executive over social services and that is all our social services including environmental management.
And then behind me is Eric Jones he is our public safety and justice deputy county executive and he is our liaison between the elected district attorney and the elected sheriff along with public defender, public defender, coroner and other public safety type services.
So and last but not least is the lady Amanda Thomas that is standing before you at the podium.
None of this could be done without her and her team.
She's been here for I think three years and she's pretty much mastered our budget.
Well she's been in that role for three years.
That's true.
She's been with the county for a little bit longer.
She returned from and we stole her from a local group but we're incredibly happy to have her come back.
And then last person on and then two other people on my executive team that are not here is Kim Nava who is our public information officer and Alicia DeVore who is our legislative affairs person.
Very good.
Thank you for doing that.
I think it's important for everyone to know who the folks are that serve in the office of the county executive.
So when you say OCE the individuals that you just mentioned make up the OCE and I just want to go on record thanking all of you for you know your your service every day.
And so I think it's important for you to be on the board.
Especially during budget season because I know it can get very very busy and there's a lot of activity and back and forth.
And you're charged with shuttling between your respective departments and your bosses office.
And attempting to assemble what we're considering today.
And that's no easy feat so thank you for doing that Mr. County executive.
Supervisor senator I'd be remiss if I didn't do this.
Behind them is a whole host of department heads and maybe they can stand up.
And these the reason why these folks are here today is because their budgets are actually impacted today.
Sure.
Not necessarily in the positive way.
So they've made those sacrifices and made the recommendations to the deputies.
And these are a fantastic bunch of folks.
And every day I every time I meet with them and sit around our department head meetings I'm amazed at the talent that sits around this room.
And as a board you should be incredibly proud of of this group that we've assembled for you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I am very proud.
And I know my colleagues are very proud.
And the people that just stood and the folks behind you and at the podium.
Others that are still upstairs doing work as we speak.
Are civil servants that really really take their jobs and responsibilities very seriously.
And I think I'm very proud of the board members.
Even very personally as it relates to some of the most intimate aspects of county governance.
Whether it be child welfare, public safety and public health.
Just to name a few.
But again I think again it deserves repeating that we the board all appreciate your civil service.
With that, Supervisor Hume.
Thank you Chair.
And actually that's a perfect segue into what I wanted to comment on.
We're going to hear a lot of very valuable and somewhat mind numbing information.
And a lot of push pull from folks who have concerns with what's being presented.
And then we're going to dig into some deliberations and really get into the meat of things.
And so I wanted to put something on the record so that I don't forget it.
And that is to follow up on the acknowledgement that we just had.
And just say how proud and grateful I am for all of the folks who made some difficult decisions.
And I know that at the end of the day, first of all made difficult decisions with a fiscally constrained mindset.
And I know at the end of the day these are human decisions.
They're human decisions that affect the people that work for us.
And more importantly they're human decisions that affect the people for whom we work.
And it's not easy.
And I feel like this was an excellent year to begin this process.
And it is beginning of a process unfortunately because nobody has a perfect crystal ball.
But I've told people that this is a has been a polite budget experience.
It's kind of like a velvet rope where it demands respect and it provides order.
But it does so in a non-threatening and fairly elegant way.
And in some budget years we have metal barricades that are cold and unforgiving.
And so I just appreciate that we're going through this effort.
And I appreciate the work, the introspection and self-awareness from all the department heads
to really try and at least put something forward that recognizes that this is not an endless supply of money.
And that we do have to kind of right size ourselves every now and then.
So I appreciate the indulgence.
Thank you.
Thank you, Supervisor Hume.
You know, it hasn't been said yet, I don't think by anyone, but by law, by law, by statute, we have to pass a balanced budget.
It's the law.
We're not Congress.
We can't print money.
We can't extend, you know, a deficit into the trillions.
We have to balance our budget.
And so that is an important, important guardrail that is specific to local government and in this case to counties.
And I would just ask you to reflect on that at some point prior to your testimony and the fact that the difficult decisions that Supervisor Hume just referenced are in that context.
We have to pass a balanced budget with the resources that we have and the ones that we expect.
And so with that, I think that's an appropriate introduction to Amanda's presentation.
Great.
Thank you very much.
Good morning, Chair Serna, board members.
I'm Amanda Thomas, the county's chief fiscal officer.
And I will be providing an overview of the fiscal year 25-26 recommended budget and capital improvement plan.
Before I jump in, I'm hoping that you will indulge me for just a moment to echo a question.
To echo everything that was said, I'm extremely proud to be part of this executive team, this department head group.
And I really want to thank the departments, including the fiscal teams in the departments who put a lot of thought and creativity and I'm sure some long hours into this budget.
And I also really want to acknowledge the analysts in my office who have a sometimes challenging job of partnering with departments in this process, but also ensuring that we're being consistent among all departments and following budget guidelines that aren't always possible.
So that's not easy and they do a great job of that.
And I'd like to appreciate them as well.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay.
So, as County Executive Villanueva mentioned and as you will likely hear me say several times, the use of one-time resources to fund ongoing general fund expenditures has resulted in a structural imbalance.
And in order to bring the budget into structural balance, we really must align our ongoing expenditures with ongoing revenues.
This is a process that actually started last fiscal year, is continuing in this year's budget and we expect to be a multi-year effort going forward.
So, while the recommended budget does include recommendations for program reductions needed to balance the budget, it also reflects efficiencies identified by departments resulting in cost savings and a lower need for discretionary resources without negatively impacting service levels.
It reflects additional costs for county obligations including the May's consent decree.
Overall, it does reflect less reliance on one-time funding, though we are still using one-time funding.
And it reflects continued funding for many priority programs despite the need for some reductions.
It's important to note that this recommended budget does not reflect any potential impacts that could result from the state budget or changes in federal funding with really a great deal of uncertainty on the horizon about what those impacts could mean.
And because we are not fully funding the base level of service in this recommended budget, we are also not recommending any contributions to general fund reserves.
However, as I will be talking about later, reserve contributions would be a priority for any additional one-time resources available for the revised recommended budget in September.
Thank you.
Amanda, before you leave the slide, I think occasional analogies help during the course of the presentation because the county budget is extremely complicated.
But you correct me if I'm wrong, but when you say kind of a structural deficit and the fact that we have kind of balanced carryover that's diminishing,
I would liken that to you have certain household expenses that you have, you know, that you have, right?
You have a car payment, you have a mortgage payment, you have food, you have utilities.
Now, you can pay that out of your checking account, right?
Because you expect those amounts.
Some of those amounts are the same every month.
Some of them fluctuate.
But if you have to dip into your savings account on a regular basis to help cover those costs and your savings isn't getting replenished fast enough,
you're going to lose your savings over time.
And at some point, you're going to get to a point where now your checking account is vulnerable.
So would you say that that's kind of analogous to where we find ourselves?
Yes, absolutely.
I think that's a great way of putting it in everyday terms.
It would be like, you know, we're paying the rent from the money we have in our savings account.
And once we've spent that money, it's gone.
And how do we pay the rent next month?
Gotcha.
You know, that's the idea.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Thanks.
Okay.
And then just wrapping up on this slide, in addition to the budget recommendations before you today
and in recognition of the fact that we need to align revenues and expenditures,
we are asking the board to direct staff to explore revenue enhancement options
and then return to the board with recommendations.
And I'll talk a little bit more about that later in the presentation.
Okay.
So starting with a high-level overview of the recommended budget,
the budget is balanced, as mentioned, as required by state law.
But the general fund budget continues to be balanced with one-time sources,
although, again, with less reliance on one-time resources
and therefore greater structural balance than the fiscal year 24-25 budget.
The continued tightening that we're seeing in the general fund results from lower available fund balance
and continued slowing revenue growth, as well as increased costs and obligations.
As I'll describe later, the general fund budget includes recommended reductions
resulting from both a loss of dedicated funding and a shortfall in available discretionary resources.
General fund growth or funding for new or enhanced programs totals $43 million,
with $9 million of that funded with discretionary resources
that really are recommended to meet the county's obligations
and fund the most critical needs.
And then finally, just in terms of overview,
both the contingency and reserve recommendations included in this budget
are consistent with the board policies that were adopted in 2023.
So before talking about specific recommendations,
I wanted to set the backdrop of the community engagement process
and board priorities used to evaluate requests
and develop budget recommendations.
So this really started with the community engagement plan framework
that the board approved in 2021
and has continued through each subsequent budget cycle.
Some of the elements of that plan include public budget workshops
that provide a high-level overview of the county's budget
and highlight different departments each year.
Enhanced information that's available on the county's website,
including a very high-level budget and brief budget summary
and a budget explorer tool.
And then, of course, key to understanding the community's priorities
for the county's budget are the professional public opinion surveys
and focus groups of county residents,
with the most recent survey conducted in the fall of 2023
and then followed up by focus groups last November.
And then following those focus groups,
the board reaffirmed its budget priorities for fiscal year 25-26
in January of this year heading into the county's budget development process.
Supervisor, if I might add to that,
in addition to the outreach that Amanda's outlined right there,
I did offer and met with the Downtown Sacramento Partnership,
their board, and offered to meet with anybody on their board.
I also met with Metro Chamber and offered a meeting with them
to discuss our budget and the impacts of the budget.
I did host a meeting with Amanda and Mr. Jones a couple of Fridays ago
in which we went over all the budgets and the budget increases
and to share with them.
But included in that meeting was attendees from Metro Chambers Board,
the Downtown Partnership, Michael Ault and his team, and Scott.
Also people representing various PBIDs.
We also had the Realtors Association, Erin Teague.
I said good morning to her in the back.
Chris Norm was also there,
and then also a representative from the California Building Association.
I think we had a great meeting to discuss exactly where this budget was heading,
and I was there to answer any questions to do that additional outreach.
I think we've set a new precedent, so I think we'll be doing it again next year.
Thank you for doing that.
I think it's incredibly important to not just count on a single day,
namely today, for the budget to benefit from some affirmative,
intentional outreach that we do with various groups and interested parties.
So I think over the last few years,
staff and the county CEO's office have really taken to heart what the board directed you to do,
which was to enhance transparency to the extent that we can do that effectively
by maybe even months in advance about where we stand in terms of the condition of the budget
so that there are no surprises.
Everyone comes into this eyes wide open, so I do appreciate that effort.
Thank you.
So those priorities adopted by the board in January are paraphrased a bit here,
but the first priority is complying with the county's legal, financial, regulatory, and policy obligations.
Priority number two is optimizing the use of county resources,
so improving effectiveness and efficiency where possible,
and also limiting the extent to which reductions in dedicated revenues are backfilled with discretionary resources.
And the third priority is funding new or enhanced programs focused on the most critical and urgent needs
with priority focus areas identified in the survey of county residents being a county-wide focus area of addressing homelessness
and an unincorporated focus area of improving road conditions.
So again, these priorities were used to evaluate both the growth requests
and the reduction impacts submitted by departments to develop the recommendations before you today.
Okay, so stepping back to look at the all funds budget,
not just focusing on the general fund,
total appropriations for all funds are $8.9 billion,
and I think it's helpful to break that number down.
The first thing that's helpful to understand is that about $2 billion of that are transfers
or reimbursements between funds,
so that's really just money that's moving around within the county budget.
Every dollar that moves from one part of the budget to another requires an appropriation,
and this happens, as you'll see, when we have restricted fund revenue that's transferred to the general fund to fund expenditures,
and it also happens when one department pays another department for services.
Our net appropriations in non-general fund budgets are about $3 billion,
and these expenditures are largely funded by a rate, fee, and other special revenue dedicated to a specific purpose.
So an example of this would be utility fees paid by customers.
And then within the general fund, $1.9 billion of expenditures are funded with non-discretionary or departmental revenues,
which are also dedicated to a specific purpose within that department.
So this could come from customer fees for general fund departments,
but it includes a large amount of state and federal funding,
especially for the county's social services departments.
Then also in the general fund, reimbursements from the semi-discretionary restricted funds fund about $1 billion of expenditures.
And these semi-discretionary reimbursements are 1991 and 2011 realignment
and Proposition 172 public safety sales tax revenue that's received from the state
and is available to fund certain programs in the county's social services and public safety departments.
And then finally, discretionary resources in the general fund,
including both our discretionary revenues, so those ongoing funding sources like property taxes,
as well as our one-time resources like fund balance fund about $1 billion of expenditures.
And we generally refer to the appropriations funded with discretionary resources as net county cost.
Before you leave the slide, I'm going to extend the analogy a bit.
So this is like, so you have your household budget, you have checking and savings we talked about,
but your monthly bills that are due are paid out of checking,
but they're in part funded by your rich uncle who can be temperamental,
who sometimes will put money in your checking account,
sometimes will not put money in your checking account,
and it comes with strings attached.
He will say you can only spend a certain amount of dollars on X, right?
And so what this pie chart is telling us is that in that instance,
you only have full control of one-ninth of that $8.9 billion all funds budget.
The rest of it, there are rules, and you have to follow those rules,
or in many cases, you lose the funding entirely.
So that's an important distinction to make and for people to understand.
Agreed.
Okay.
Okay.
So this chart is showing us total appropriations,
including those transfers that I mentioned.
So the total $8.9 billion by fund type.
So if you look from left to right here,
you can see that the enterprise and special revenue funds make up about $3.4 billion
of total appropriations that are funded, again, through utility rates, fees,
other dedicated revenue sources.
In the middle, while total appropriations, again, in the general fund are about $4 billion,
you can see, again, here that only about one quarter, right,
that $1 billion are funded with discretionary resources.
Again, what we refer to as net county cost.
And then $1.6 billion, you can see,
are funded with restricted fund reimbursements,
which you can see are separately budgeted as appropriations
and the restricted funds off to the right.
$1.2 billion, again, looking in that middle general fund column,
we have $1.2 billion of that total $4 billion funded with state and federal revenue
for specific state and federally funded programs.
And then $185 million funded with other departmental revenue.
Again, all the way off to the right there,
that $1.6 billion in restricted fund appropriations,
that includes $1 billion for the semi-discretionary restricted funds
that I mentioned earlier,
and then $568 million for appropriations for other restricted funds.
Okay, so the $8.9 billion in total appropriations
or budgeted expenditures and transfers represents a decrease, actually,
of about $258 million or 2.8% compared to the current adopted budget.
The general fund overall has an increase of about $109 million or 2.8%.
One of the larger decreases that we're seeing is in our other special districts
in agencies, which overall has a decrease of $154 million or about 31%.
And this is really due in large part to the separation of the Sacramento area sewer district
and the fact that those employees are no longer county employees
and no longer included in the county budget.
Patient care revenue actually has a large increase of about $56 million or 20%,
and that's representing additional funding in the general fund
for behavioral health services.
So when netting out all the transfers between funds,
overall there is $6.9 billion in budgeted expenditures, net of reimbursements.
And then the $8.9 billion total budget also includes $66 million of total appropriations
for new or enhanced programs, again, what we call growth.
$43 million of that is in the general fund
and $23 million in non-general fund budgets.
So I mentioned the $6.9 billion in net appropriations when we take those transfers out,
and this chart is showing how that breaks out by functional area in the county's budget.
You can see that the largest share, this 37%,
is for expenditures in the county's social services departments,
including those departments shown here.
The second largest share at 29% is for community services.
Public safety and justice has 17%.
Administrative services, which are services provided by county departments to other county departments,
represents 11%, and then general government is 6%.
So turning it out to look just at the general fund,
and I mentioned earlier that total appropriations are $4 billion,
and the bulk of those, as we saw,
are funded with federal, state, departmental, and semi-discretionary resources.
If we look just at the $1.021 billion of discretionary resources in the general fund,
that are shown here on the left,
we can see that the available resources include $943 million of discretionary revenue,
so that's ongoing revenues,
$71 million of estimated available fund balance,
and that's the estimated amount remaining unspent from the 24-25 budget,
and again, therefore, a one-time source of funding.
And then a $7 million planned use of the property tax system reserve
to fund costs of that project.
And then the right-hand side here shows that together,
those sources are funding $1.021 billion in net county cost,
which reflects a base budget or the budget year cost,
so the 25-26 cost of current service levels of $1.028 billion,
with $4 million of recommended reduction due to the loss of dedicated funding for certain programs,
which we refer to as categorical reductions,
$12 million of other reductions needed to balance the budget,
and then $9 million of growth funded with discretionary resources.
So you can see, looking at these numbers,
that the $1.021 billion in net county costs
includes spending the entire $71 million of estimated fund balance,
which means that we're budgeting to spend more than we're bringing in,
back to that sort of savings account and ongoing household expenses analogy.
So, you know, we've been talking about this structural balance and what that means,
and this is a chart that I think does a good job of showing what we mean
by the use of fund balance in the budget and why that can be a problem.
So the top of each bar is showing the total fund balance available each year,
so that's the total amount unspent from the prior year
that is available in that budget year shown.
And the orange portion of these bars is representing the amount set aside in reserves in the budget.
So that's a good use of fund balance.
We set that aside.
It's available if we need it in future years,
but we're not funding ongoing expenditures with that one-time source.
And then the blue portion is representing the amount used to fund expenditures in the budget.
And you can see looking historically that the total unspent from the prior year
and sort of those pre-pandemic years there was around $50 million available each year.
And then we really saw during the pandemic years a very large increase in those amounts
due to pandemic-related impacts of not being able to fill positions, delays in projects and equipment.
And then just additional revenue, both in terms of some stimulus funding the county received directly
as well as the impacts of stimulus funding on the economy generally.
And we really have seen those impacts drop off in the last couple of years
and seen us returning to what would be a more normal expected level of fund balance.
In 24-25, $105 million of the available fund balance was used to fund appropriations,
as David mentioned, with approximately $80 million of that funding ongoing appropriations.
And that's compared to only $71 million of fund balance estimated to be available in 25-26.
And so while that $71 million represents less reliance on one-time funding
compared to the $80 million in 24-25,
it is very possible that we could end up with an even lower fund balance for the 26-27 budget.
And that's why we really do expect this to be a multi-year effort
to bring the budget into structural balance.
Amanda, before you leave the slide,
I think it deserves reflection here that kind of the importance of the reserve.
And of course, what we see here is the shrinking orange bar.
And I know that our county CEO was here during the Great Recession.
I was fortunate to be elected right at the tail end of that.
And so I remember quite clearly, I believe it was the 11-12 budget.
We still had some remnant cuts that we had to consider coming out of that recession
during which the county was forced to shed about 3,500 jobs.
3,500 jobs, which then, you know, aren't there to help feed our local economy,
aren't there to help pay mortgages,
aren't there to help pay monthly bills and education for kids.
So maybe, Mr. CEO, you could tell us a little bit about kind of what you remember about that
and why the reserve policy and keeping reserves at a healthy level
and building reserves is critical so we don't find ourselves in the same
or we can at least minimize the impacts of a similar economic downturn.
Thank you, Supervisor Serna.
I think one of the things that I mentioned during my opening remarks
is we're at about a 5.5% reserves right now.
And the board has a policy now of 17%, and so we're on our way.
But we had gone through incredible amounts of one-time money using our savings account
and still had to lay off or at least reduce our FTE count by at least 3,500.
We not only did we expend all our reserves, but we also took loans out.
And it took us about six or seven, maybe in 10 years, to pay back those loans.
So it's incredibly important that we continue to balance right-size this budget
by making sure that our ongoing expenditures are being paid for
with our ongoing revenues.
That's why you'll hear Amanda say and me pipe in every once in a while,
the use of one-time funds for ongoing expenditures
does not help us move that needle.
So that was an incredibly devastating time.
You know, it was very...
We have some of my executive team behind me
that actually had to sign their pink slips or their reduction papers
and were removed from positions.
So everybody was very impacted by that.
It was a dark time for the economy,
but it was also a dark time for Sacramento County.
And I don't want to return to that.
And if you follow the data,
you know, we have these ebbs and flows.
Our budget does not consider what our...
I think you said crazy uncle, I think is what the term you used,
that lives on the East Coast or the one that lives down the street
and the changes that they're making to their policies that will impact us.
We're not including the impacts that the federal government will have on us.
We're not including things that the state government...
So we need our reserves to be prepared for those things also.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
Thank you for that.
And again, as a candidate at the time,
and sitting up in the cheap seats there,
watching the proceedings of the previous fiscal year
where the then Board of Supervisors was,
I think at the time,
considering somewhere in the neighborhood of a $4 billion budget,
but literally the Board of Supervisors was spending time with staff in deliberations
talking about how to save four-digit numbers in a $4 billion budget.
That's how desperate things were.
And those budget proceedings went on for days, not hours.
So I, too, remember that, at least as a very focused spectator
and later as a participant at the tail end.
But that, again, is kind of the tale of why a reserve policy
and a healthy reserve account is important.
Thank you.
Okay.
So looking at the ongoing discretionary resources,
discretionary revenues are budgeted, as I said, at $943 million.
And you can see from this chart that property taxes account for by far
the largest share of those revenues at about 72%.
And then that's followed by sales taxes
and then to a lesser extent other revenues and taxes.
Kind of looking at the other side of this,
so looking at now at how those discretionary resources,
including both our ongoing revenues and one-time fund balance,
how those are budgeted to be spent,
this chart is showing how that $1.021 billion net county cost
is allocated by functional area.
With the largest share of discretionary resources,
allocated to public safety and justice at 63%.
And then when you add in correctional health,
which is the social services department,
the combined percentage for public safety,
adding that in is about 72%.
So I'll say that the concentration of discretionary resources
for public safety is largely a function
of the lack of other available funding sources for those costs.
But it also does help to explain
why public safety programs also experience
some of the larger impacts
when faced with a lack of available discretionary resources.
So turning now to look at some of the year-over-year changes in revenues,
for discretionary revenue,
the $943 million projected for 25-26
represents a $35 million,
or about 4% increase,
compared to the current adopted budget.
Property taxes of $659 million
are estimated to be up about $28 million,
or 4.5%,
which, while healthy,
is substantially lower than we were seeing
just a couple of years ago,
as continued high interest rates
have negatively impacted the volume of home sales.
Sales and use taxes are $145 million,
which is estimated to be up about $2 million,
or just 1.3%.
And this really reflects the continued flattening out
that we've seen in sales tax revenues in recent years.
And we're seeing that both local and statewide level.
I'll talk about it a little bit.
And then there's a net $5 million increase
in other taxes and revenues
due largely to utility user taxes
and some other revenue sources.
I think as we look at these numbers,
it is important to note
that our revenue assumptions here
do not reflect any impacts resulting from tariffs
or a potential economic downturn.
And there's, of course,
a great deal of uncertainty right now
and the potential that we could be looking
at negative impacts to revenues
as we move through the fiscal year
and into subsequent fiscal years.
So in addition to discretionary resources,
the county also receives semi-discretionary resources,
which include the various categories
of 1991 and 2011 realignment,
and then also Proposition 172,
public safety sales tax revenue.
So we refer to these sources as semi-discretionary
because there is some discretion
to allocate this funding to programs
in the county's social services
and public safety departments.
So many of them can be allocated
to more than one different department,
but not to any department.
They're not completely discretionary.
So it's important to understand
that this funding generally reimburses
eligible expenditures in the general fund
that otherwise would be funded
with discretionary resources.
The exception to this
is our CalWORKs-related realignment,
which offsets what the state
would otherwise contribute for that program.
So the non-CalWORKs-related revenue
in the semi-discretionary restricted funds
is kind of what we're looking at,
and that is budgeted at $819 million,
which is up just $9 million,
or about 1%.
So again, reflecting that same flattening out
of growth that we're seeing
in local sales tax revenues,
we're also seeing that at the statewide level
because these funding sources
are largely derived from statewide sales taxes.
The combined non-CalWORKs beginning fund balance
of $67 million is down $45 million
compared to the current budget year,
and that includes reserves of $64 million.
Overall, the non-CalWORKs reimbursements
to the general fund are $838 million,
which is a $12 million,
or about 1.4% reduction
compared to the current fiscal year,
and that also includes a $16 million use
of those reserves that I mentioned.
So again, I think this is important
because it's another area of one-time funding
that we have that's impacting the general fund budget.
So although it's not general fund fund balance,
it's fund balance in these semi-discretionary funds
that is also resulting in structural imbalance
in the general fund budget.
So the remaining category of revenue
in the general fund is non-discretionary
or departmental revenues,
and this is revenue that is specific
to programs within a department
and is used to fund eligible expenditures
in department budgets
before the use of discretionary
or semi-discretionary resources.
So the $1.9 billion total
is a net increase of $99 million,
or about 5.5%,
with some of the largest increases,
as you can see here,
in health services and human assistance.
I will point out listed here
that voter registration in elections
actually has about $7 million,
which for that department
is a very large 80% decrease
in revenue year over year,
and that's due largely
to a one-time state reimbursement
in 24-25 for prior year expenditures
as well as a decrease
in some election services charges.
But really, as a result
of this prior year one-time revenue
going away,
the discretionary resource use
is increasing compared to 24-25.
It's very consistent
with what it had been in prior years.
Also noted here at the bottom,
some departments are expecting
a loss in dedicated revenue
or what we call categorical revenue
for certain programs,
which in some cases
was requested to be backfilled
with discretionary resources,
and I will describe those impacts
on the later slide.
So as we turn out to talk
about the recommendations
regarding the appropriations
or the spending
in the general fund,
I wanted to spend some time
describing our budget approach.
I know David did that
a little bit earlier,
but I'll just go through it again
because I think it helps
kind of provide some context
for what we'll be talking about next.
So because we recognize
that there was likely
to be a shortfall
in the availability
of discretionary resources
relative to expenditures
and the fact that overall
there was a need
to better align ongoing spending
with ongoing resources,
our approach this year
was to ask departments
to submit budgets
showing what the impact
would be of not increasing
their use of discretionary resources.
So to do that,
each department had a target
that essentially kept
net county cost
at the fiscal year 24-25 level.
after making certain adjustments.
And one of those adjustments
that I want to mention
recognized that the county's
pension obligation bond
debt service
is decreasing
in fiscal year 25-26
relative to fiscal year 24-25.
And as a result of that,
those costs allocated out
to departments
would also be reduced.
At the same time,
our goal was really
to try to preserve
that funding capacity
that resulted from the fact
that we had decreased costs
to be available
for future county capital needs.
However, ultimately,
the recommendations
in this budget
do not preserve
that funding capacity
as we determined
that providing funding
for existing services
and obligations
was a higher priority.
So as I think David
mentioned earlier,
several departments
submitted budgets
that maintained
the existing level of service
with no increase
in net county cost.
So those included
some smaller budget units
as well as some larger ones
such as homeless services
and housing,
health services,
community development,
coroner, and probation.
And they did that
through a combination
of identifying efficiencies,
budgeting more realistically,
and leveraging
other funding sources.
So as just a few examples,
health services deleted
over 30 vacant positions
in their budget.
Coroner was able
to reduce contracted
transportation costs.
And homeless services
and housing was able
to leverage
departmental funding sources
to provide shelter capacity.
The departments
that identified the need
for additional
discretionary resources
in order to maintain
existing service levels
submitted reduction scenarios
indicating which programs
the department
would reduce
in priority order
should the requested
additional resources
not be available.
Departments requesting funding
for new or enhanced programs
submitted growth requirements
requests also
in priority order.
And then this information
was used along
with the board's budget
priorities to develop
the recommendations
for reductions
and growth.
Before you leave
the slide, Amanda?
I just want to go back
and put a finer point
on some of the comments
that our CEO shared
with us earlier
about process.
Because I think
it needs to be
very, very clear
before I suspect
some of you may
come to the podium
with concerns about
quote-unquote
public safety.
And that is relative
to the sheriff
and the DA's office.
Just, in other words,
we, the CEO
and the process
that you just again
referenced
in terms of
kind of the exercise
you ask all departments
to go through
and keep service levels
where they are,
don't use growth
in discretionary revenue.
It was completely left
to the department heads,
including the elected
department heads,
the sheriff and the DA,
and, you know,
and other department heads
like the head
of regional parks.
The CEO didn't say,
hey, cut X, Y, and Z.
You simply kind of
challenged them
to go do what
you just said, Amanda.
You come back
and you tell us,
because you know better,
you're department heads.
You tell us
where you meet
the challenge
that we've laid out
for you.
So it was completely
at the discretion
of all department heads,
including the sheriff,
including the DA,
that they brought forward
the programs
that would,
might need to be cut
and to kind of
meet this challenge
that you outlined
about service delivery
status quo
and less reliance
on one-time funding.
Is that fair?
Yes, that's fair.
I mean, I think,
you know,
I think what our direction was,
was, you know,
to the extent possible,
let's not impact
service levels, right?
Right.
If there is a way
to not increase
discretionary resource use
and not impact
service levels,
let's explore
all of those opportunities.
And to the extent
that's not possible,
asking the department
to identify
what the impact would be
of not receiving
those resources.
Thank you.
And the reason I want
to make that very abundantly
clear for everyone
is that I've seen,
as I suspect my colleagues have,
I've seen recent transmittals,
whether they be text messages
or emails,
that very, very unfairly,
and quite frankly,
it's not the truth,
that Mr. Villanueva
is the one
that is cutting.
It's Mr. Villanueva,
our CEO,
and Amanda,
who said,
here,
you need to help us
balance the budget.
We need you to do this,
but we're asking
for your input
about which programs
you would prioritize.
That was solely
at the discretion
of those department heads.
And I'm speaking directly
about mostly the DA's office
because, again,
I don't want folks
to march up to the podium,
point their finger
at the CEO
and say,
oh, the CEO
has suggested cutting
X, Y, and Z.
No,
that's not the truth.
So please keep that in mind
for everyone
that wants to specifically
address the DA's budget.
Thank you.
Okay, so looking...
Amanda.
Sorry,
it's Eric right here.
Yes.
Through the chair,
may I speak to that last point?
Sure.
Okay.
So, yes,
each,
speaking for the district attorney's office
and sheriff's office,
they provided a list
of prioritization
of what would meet
the given target.
I would say
the county executive's office
did give recommendations
on perhaps some alternatives
or other...
But that was after
they first came back
with their first list.
And so the CEO's office
saw what those lists were
and understanding
that some of those priorities
were extremely important
to our constituents
and their constituents
gave those department heads
another opportunity
and say,
can you please revisit
that priority list?
Is that true?
Correct.
Okay.
Patrick.
Thank you, Chair.
While we're on this subject,
thank you for that.
You know,
even more specifically,
and just to be really clear here,
government code section 25303
strictly prohibits
the board of supervisors
or the county executive
from telling the district attorney
or the sheriff
where to cut
when it comes to personnel
and programming.
So just as a hypothetical,
if,
and I've seen the same emails
as the chair,
if the message out there
was that the county executive
or the board of supervisors
is directing the district attorney
to cut
the misdemeanor unit,
that is simply not true.
That is at the discretion
of the district attorney.
So,
you know,
we cannot,
the board of supervisors
shall not obstruct
the investigative function
of the sheriff
of the county,
nor shall it obstruct
the investigative
or prosecutorial function
of the district attorney
of the county.
That's in the constitution
of the state of California.
So,
you know,
the misleading statements
that have been made
that this all rests
at the foot
of the county executive
are just that.
They are misleading.
Thank you,
Mr. Jones,
for your clarification.
Thank you,
Supervisor.
Appreciate that.
Supervisor Hume.
Thank you,
Chair.
And I appreciate,
and we're probably getting
over our skis a little bit
early on in the process here,
but I just want to put
another finer point
on what has been said
relative to what the chair
started the meeting with
in that budgets are
an expression of values.
And so the code section
that Supervisor Kennedy
just referenced is true
because the sheriff
and the DA
are elected officers
that constitutionally
we cannot tell them
how to spend their budget,
but we can tell them
how much their budget will be,
which is a different process
than the department heads
who come forward to say
we have been instructed
to prioritize maintenance
of existing services
without growth requests.
And so there is a nuanced
negotiation that takes place.
However,
going back to another analogy
that the chair made,
if the crazy uncle
doesn't put a deposit
into our bank account,
we now have to look
at what we cut,
and what we cut
is going to be
entertainment,
you know,
new clothes,
right?
Like, we're going to pay
our rent,
we're going to pay
the utilities,
and we're going to make sure
we keep food on the table
first.
So these are decisions
that do have to be made,
and they are made with the idea
of what are essential services
relative to the provisions
that have been put upon
these departments
by the people they serve.
So I just think
that's an important thing
to make as well.
I appreciate that,
and I would just say, too,
process is important,
and understanding
who has what say
in prioritization
is absolutely critical
in understanding
how we get to a place
of difficult decision making.
My comments were only aimed
at making very, very clear
that it's not anyone
but the DA and the sheriff
who have prioritized
what they have.
It's not the CEO,
it's not our CFO,
it's those elected
department heads.
Supervisor Desmond.
Thank you, Mr. Chair,
and yeah,
I was expecting to bring
or maybe touch on this
later on,
but I'm glad we're having
this discussion
because ultimately
at the end of the day,
we may disagree
on where we end up
with some of these
appropriations,
but I think we all
are in agreement
on this point
that this board
does not control
where these county
elected officials
spend their dollars,
and process does matter,
and I think sometimes
there's miscommunication,
misunderstanding
of certain things,
but I appreciate
both of your statements
about this very point
and the chairs as well,
but I think something else
to keep in mind
is when Amanda Thomas
completes her budget,
she also has to identify
where those cuts
are specifically coming from.
So it's not just simply
an arbitrary exercise
where she has to identify
where these cuts
are coming from.
Is that right, Amanda?
You just can't say
one point however many million
from this department.
You have to be more specific
than that in the budget.
Yes, and first,
respectfully,
I will say it's not my budget.
Right, sorry.
It's the county's budget.
Your fingerprints are on it
more than anybody else
at this point.
But yes, I mean,
I think, you know,
what we are doing
when we're communicating
the budget and budget decisions
is trying to identify
what is going to result
from that, right?
And that's really reflecting,
again, what, you know,
what departments are telling us
in terms of what
those impacts would be,
and yes, we do have
to make decisions
about what can get funded
and what can't
based on the resources
that we have available.
Thank you.
Okay, so looking here,
really, again,
just at the total appropriations
in the general fund,
you can see that the total
$3.96 billion,
so again,
this is all funding sources
in the general fund.
That reflects a base service level,
so the cost of existing
service level next year
of $3.935 billion
with those categorical
or dedicated revenue reductions,
accounting for about $4 million.
Other reductions,
about $14 million,
and then we had,
as I mentioned,
recommended growth
of $43 million
in total appropriations
funded with all funding sources.
So I'm going to kind of walk
through each of these elements
on the following slides.
Okay, so first,
just looking at some
of the key factors
driving general fund
base appropriations,
which are the budget year cost
of current service levels,
again,
those include
department-identified efficiencies
resulting in cost savings,
as I mentioned earlier.
Also, as I mentioned earlier,
adjustments to better align
the budget with actual results,
so that included budgeting
for reasonable salary savings estimates
based on actual experience.
Also mentioned,
reflects the reduction
in the scheduled pension
obligation bond debt service payments,
reflects salary and benefit
cost increases
for county employees,
including an assumed
2.7% salary adjustment,
general inflationary impacts
on the cost of services
and supplies,
an increase in the county's share
of in-home supportive services
provider payments,
an increase in aid payments,
caseloads and costs,
funded with an increase
in related revenue,
reductions for one-time amounts
that were included
in the 24-25 budget,
and then a recommended decrease
in the general fund contingency
of $6 million,
which would bring the total
to $9 million.
And again,
consistent with the board's policy,
this amount was really determined
based on the uncertainty
that we're aware of
for the upcoming budget year
in terms of what some additional
expenditure needs might be.
So looking at those categorical
or dedicated funding reductions,
the budget reflects $4 million
of total expenditure reductions
resulting from a reduction
in dedicated revenue.
And of this amount,
$2 million was not requested
for backfill
with discretionary resources,
so that includes $1.5 million
in the sheriff's budget
for contract services
and one-time grants,
and then about $5 million
for child support services
due to a shortfall
in funding
from their state allocation.
The Department of Human Assistance
identified reductions
resulting from a shortfall
in CalFresh revenue,
and due to the critical nature
of that program,
13.5 positions
are restored
in that program
with discretionary resources
in the recommended budget.
Of the $1.7 million
total reduction recommended,
$1.4 million
results in the deletion
of 13 vacant positions,
and $300,000
results in the elimination
of a contract
assisting residents
in the South County.
The other significant
categorical reduction
is the elimination
of one vacant position
in the agricultural
commissioner budget,
and this is also due
to a loss of state funding.
So separate
from the categorical reductions,
$14 million
of other reductions
to net county cost
expenditures
are recommended
to balance
the general fund budget.
So these are the reductions
that result
from the impacts
that departments identified
of not receiving
an increase
in discretionary resources
year over year.
And of those
identified impacts,
approximately $20 million
was restored
or funded
in the recommended budget,
and the remaining $14 million
results
in the recommended
program reductions
here,
and those with the most
significant impact
are listed here.
So in the sheriff budget,
$8.1 million
of total appropriations
with $7.4 million
of net county cost,
which represents
about 1.9% less
than the total requested
base budget
for the department.
And the programs
identified for reduction
by the sheriff's office
include the concealed carry
weapons program,
the homeless outreach team,
problem-oriented policing,
and one position
in the marine unit.
And then funding
for other programs
was restored
based on the department's
identified priority order.
All of the positions
identified for a reduction
are either vacant
or the sheriff's office
identified that employees
would be moved
to a vacancy
of the same classification
within the department
so that ultimately
a vacant position
would be deleted.
In the district attorney budget,
the program identified
for reduction
by the district attorney's office
is the misdemeanor trials
and misdemeanor court review units
with the $1.8 million reduction
resulting in the deletion
of six positions
in that program.
Similar to the sheriff,
this reduction reflects
the department's ranking
of which program
to reduce first
with nearly $6 million
of other potential reductions
identified by the department
restored within the budget.
It should be noted
that while only one
of the six positions
was identified as vacant
by the department,
sufficient vacancies
existed for the other
five positions
at the time budget
recommendations
were finalized.
However, we do understand
that at least one
of those positions
has since been filled.
For regional parks,
recommended reductions
total $1.6 million
or about 8.4% lower
than the requested
based budget
resulting in the deletion
of two vacant positions,
extra help
and work crews
and contracts
for waterway support
and science education programs.
For the public defender,
recommended reductions
total $1 million
and include eliminating
one vacant position,
extra help
in the expungement
and records clearing program
and a reduction
to contract services
for the juvenile trauma
response court
and pretrial support programs.
The contract reduction
for the pretrial support program
is included
as a recommended growth
in the correctional health budget,
so there would be no impact
to this program
if that growth is approved.
For child, family,
and adult services,
the $400,000
in recommended reductions
include funding support
provided to the
Child Abuse Prevention Council
and the Sacramento County
Office of Education.
And then additionally here,
because internal services
departments
were also asked
to hold their costs
to other departments flat,
there are also
recommended reductions
to positions
in those departments
as shown here.
So while reductions
are needed
in the general fund,
we are also recommending
expenditures
on new or enhanced programs
or what we call growth
to address critical
net county cost funded needs
in the general fund.
And then also expenditures
funded with departmental revenues
in the general fund
and other funds.
Overall,
across all funds,
over $150 million
of departmental growth
requests were submitted.
The recommended budget
includes $43 million
for recommended
general fund growth
with $9 million
of that funded
with net county cost
and including
52 new positions
across all funding sources.
As you'll see,
most of that $9 million
in recommended
net county cost
funded growth
relates to board
priority number one,
county obligations,
and specifically
to compliance
with the May's consent decree.
And then additionally,
you'll see here,
similar to the approach
that we've taken
in recent years,
we are recommending
that another $20 million
in general fund growth
be prioritized
for inclusion
in the revised
recommended budget
in September
should sufficient
additional resources
be available
after funding
recommended reserves,
which I'll address
on a later slide.
And then,
non-general fund growth
represents an additional
$23 million
in total appropriations,
including 23
additional positions.
So for the general fund,
the most significant
recommended growth
is for the departments
listed here.
In the correctional
health budget unit,
$9 million
total is recommended,
including $6 million
of net county cost,
and again,
that's primarily
to support
the county's obligations
under the May's
consent decree
remedial plan.
This includes
$4 million
for increased costs
for the UC Davis
mental health services
contract,
$1 million
net county costs
for three months
of funding
to add eight positions,
and contract services
for the acute psychiatric
unit expansion
that's expected
for the spring
of 2026,
$400,000
for two positions
for chronic care,
and $300,000
for jail
pre- and post-release
services
that are currently
contracted
by the public defender.
Amanda,
before you go
on to the list there,
I think it's really
important,
especially for,
you know,
it's been mentioned
a few times here,
May's consent decree.
I don't expect
some in the audience
to understand
what that is,
but can you
tell us,
or maybe
county council's
better prepared
to explain
what a consent decree
means in the context
of the budget,
because someone
might just look
at this list
and say,
oh,
you're just
prioritizing
the health
of inmates,
but it's important
to understand
why we're doing that.
So,
Ms. Travis,
if you can just
briefly educate us.
Certainly.
The May's consent decree
is a settlement agreement
that we've entered
into with
a group
of inmates
in the main jail
and the RCCC,
and basically
it obligates
the county
to make a set
of improvements
in the county jail system,
and the set
of improvements
cost money,
and so therefore
the things
that we,
Amanda is referring
to,
are the things
that we have made
improvements in,
capital improvements
and also staffing
improvements that
are related
to the capital
improvements.
Okay,
so this is
what I would call
a have-to-do.
Correct.
Yeah,
all right.
Thank you.
And I think
thinking back
to those budget
priorities
that we looked
at at the beginning
of the presentation,
you know,
these fall squarely
into that priority
one county obligations.
Thank you.
Okay,
so for the sheriff's budget,
$2 million
of growth
includes $1 million
of net county costs
for three deputy sheriff
positions
to escort inmates
to medical appointments,
and then again,
three months of funding
for nine positions
to support
the acute psychiatric
unit expansion,
both of which
also support
the May's consent decree.
In the health
services budget unit,
$12 million
of funded growth
is recommended,
including $6.5 million
for a new behavioral
health urgent care center
that also supports
the May's consent decree.
For homeless services
and housing,
$4 million
of growth
includes $3 million
to support the Watt Avenue
Safe Stay Campus,
and that's funded
with a combination
of homeless
and behavioral health
funding sources.
And then additional growth
includes one-time
augmentations
for existing shelter
providers
to ensure that
performance expectations
are met,
and that's funded
with homeless funding
sources
and $600,000
of net county cost.
For the human
assistance administration
budget unit,
$13 million
of funded growth
is recommended,
and that includes
$10 million
for state-funded
child care payments
for CalWORKs recipients,
$1.5 million
for CalWORKs
expanded subsidized
employment contract
expenditures,
and $1.3 million
for additional
CalWORKs staffing.
For the conflict
criminal defenders budget,
$900,000
of net county cost
is recommended
to implement
a rate increase
of $6 per hour
for attorneys
and investigators
with those rates
having last been adjusted
in fiscal year 2018-19.
Other net county
cost-funded growth
includes about $100,000
in community development
to add an assistant planner
in support of the county's
climate action plan,
and then $100,000
in probation
to purchase additional
GPS units
for pretrial supervision,
which also supports
the May's consent
to create jail
population reduction plan.
So in addition
to the growth
included
in the recommended budget,
we're also recommending
that certain growth
requests be prioritized
for funding
in the revised
recommended budget
if resources
are available
after recommended
reserve contributions.
So the prioritized
growth is shown here,
and that includes
just under $18,000
net county cost
for purchase
of an inflatable boat
for regional parks,
and then a $20 million
contribution
from the general fund
to the roads fund,
and then the associated
expenditures
in the roads fund
for pavement rehabilitation
and maintenance
of county roads.
Okay, so looking
at the reserves
in the general fund,
the only change
in the recommended budget,
as I mentioned,
is that $7.5 million
release
from the property tax
system reserve
to fund
those project costs
in the budget.
No additional reserve
releases
or contributions
are recommended,
again, consistent
with the reserve policy
which first calls
for funding
the base budget
and any new county
obligations
before making
contributions
to reserves.
With this recommended
budget,
the total discretionary
reserves would stand
at $253 million
with about,
with $39 million
of that set aside
for specific purposes.
So when we look
at the remaining
$214 million
of available
discretionary reserves,
that represents
about 5.5%
or 6%
of our total
general fund revenue,
and that's compared
to our long-term
policy goal
of 17%,
which would equate
to about $660 million
just based
on our current
budgeted general fund
revenue.
So as I mentioned
earlier,
for the revised
recommended budget
in September,
before funding
that prioritized
growth identified
on the prior slide,
the reserve policy
first calls
for funding
general reserves
at 10%
of discretionary
revenues,
so not total revenues,
but the discretionary
revenues,
and that would be
a contribution
of about $3.5 million
based on the current
recommended balance
and that reserve
and the current estimate
of discretionary revenue.
This year,
we're also recommending
an additional reserve
contribution
of $20 million
for capital improvements
required by the May's
consent decree.
While we expect
the capital needs
that may be identified
in the jail system
master plan
and those that may be
required to be implemented
before the plan
recommendations
can be implemented,
will require the county
to consider a range
of financing options
and new funding sources,
setting aside
these available funds
in the revised
recommended budget
would best position
the county
to be able to meet
our obligations
under the May's
consent decree.
So thinking about
that $660 million
that the 17%
reserve target
represents,
that seems like
a really big number.
I think this is,
you know,
to the point
that Supervisor Cerna
was making earlier,
I think this chart
kind of helps
put that in context
and what this is
showing us
is that during
the Great Recession
the cumulative loss
of tax revenue
to the county
was over $600 million
and that was starting
at a much lower base
of revenues
than we have today
or than, you know,
would be the case
for a future recession.
Additionally,
this doesn't take
into account
our semi-discretionary
or departmental revenues
that could be subject
to the same sorts
of impacts
during economic downturns.
So obviously
if those revenues
were factored in,
the number would be
even larger.
And I think, you know,
again, as we alluded
to earlier,
some other context
that's helpful
is that on a relative basis,
you know,
the county's reserves
heading into the Great Recession
were essentially
the same as they are today,
about 5%
of the general fund budget,
and those reserves
were nowhere near sufficient
to avoid
the severe budgetary impacts
with, again,
over 3,000 county positions
eliminated
between 2007-8
and 2010-11.
So the more
that we can do
to build up reserves,
the better positioned
we will be
to sustain service levels
during a future recession.
And when we don't
try to predict
when a recession
might occur,
it is useful
to look at financial projections
to understand
how decisions
in this budget year
could impact future years.
And this slide
is showing
a multi-year
sensitivity analysis
for the general fund budget
based on assumptions
about future costs
and revenues
and illustrates
what might happen
under those assumptions
with this chart
showing the difference
between projected
discretionary revenues
and projected
net county costs
through fiscal year
2031-32,
which is the first
full year
after the county's
pension obligation bonds
are scheduled
to be paid off.
So each of these
three lines
is representing
different revenue
growth scenarios
ranging from 3%
on the low end
to 6%
on the high end.
And then all
of the scenarios
include the same
assumption
about net county cost,
which is an underlying
annual growth rate
of about 3.5%
and then also reflects
known reductions
in scheduled debt
payments
over that period
of time.
So I think
the way to look
at this chart
is where these lines
are below zero,
that indicates
that our budgeted
net county cost
would be exceeding
our revenues
based on the assumption
used for that scenario,
meaning that we would
continue to be out
of structural balance
and using fund balance
to the extent available
to pay for current
year expenditures.
You can see
on this chart
that in all scenarios,
net county cost
is expected
to exceed
discretionary revenues
for fiscal 26-27.
And this is true
for all but the most
optimistic scenario
through at least
2030-31,
which again indicates
that we would expect
structural balance
to be an issue
in future budgets
as well.
I think it's really
important to note here
that this analysis
does not include
any assumptions
about the jail system
master plan
and any additional
capital operating
or debt financing needs
that may result
from that plan.
So if those costs
were to be funded
with discretionary resources,
the gap between
projected net county cost
and discretionary resources
would likely be far greater
without any new sources
of funding
and would likely require
further spending reductions.
Amanda,
what's the current outlook
in terms of
net county cost
being affected
by fulfillment
of the May's consent decree?
Do we have
a thumbnail estimate
of what that number
would be?
Well,
and I think that's the point
is that we know
that we will be looking
at this jail system
master plan
that is likely to result
in both additional capital
and operating costs,
but we do not have
an estimate of that.
How about an order
of magnitude?
Just,
I know you get nervous
when I ask you
to do these things
in public,
but just again
for the public's benefit,
in terms of the expense
involved.
Yes.
So,
here's what I can say
is if we look back
over the last five years,
we are now spending
roughly $100 million
more each year
than we were
five years ago
related to staffing
and contract services
in the jails.
And that's only part
of the settlement,
right?
Correct.
So,
the other part
is the construction,
right?
The infrastructure.
Correct.
So,
what's that,
what's the total freight here?
I don't know
that we know.
I know that at one point
we were looking
at improvements
that,
you know,
were over $500 million
in cost.
Right.
I thought it was actually
in excess of that.
So,
when you're talking
about a half billion dollars
at the very least,
and the fact
that it's not even,
it's not in this chart,
correct?
That means that
we're looking at,
even though you have
three different scenarios,
this whole thing
could be argued
as very conservative.
Correct.
Yeah.
And that's the point
that I want to make
is that we're not
reflecting those costs
because they're unknown,
but there's likely
to be costs.
And I think
there are two ways
to thinking about that.
That cost
can require expenditure
reductions
or that cost
may require us
to look for
additional sources
of revenue.
Thank you.
And to that point,
you know,
as we continue
to address
the structural imbalance
in the general fund budget
with the cost
to deliver services
and fund capital needs,
and so including
for the jails
and just other needs
for county buildings
and facilities,
that those costs
continue to outpace
revenue growth.
So one of the other
recommendations
that we have today,
as I mentioned,
is to direct staff
to explore
potential revenue
enhancement options
for the county.
That would include
potential tax measures
that would generate
additional discretionary revenue
and return to the board
with recommendations
for further consideration.
So in addition
to the recommended budget,
we are also recommending
approval of the five-year
capital improvement plan
that totals $2.7 billion
in project costs
across five years
with $890,000
$191 million
in 25-26.
The CIP
includes projects
in the departments
that are listed here,
funded with revenue
in those departments,
and all of the projects
have previously been
reviewed by the board.
In April,
the board referred
the new and newly funded
projects to the planning
commission,
and county staff
had prepared
to recommend
to the planning commission
in May
that the projects
be found to be
consistent with
the county's general plan.
However,
there was a lack
of quorum
at that meeting,
and there were no alternate
dates available.
The CIP ordinance
provides the failure
of the planning commission
to report its recommendation
to the board
shall be deemed
a recommendation
that the projects
are consistent
with the general plan,
and therefore,
the board is able
to approve the CIP.
Funding for the 25-26
projects
is included
in the department's
recommended budget.
And that concludes
my presentation.
With the recommended
actions displayed here,
I'm happy to take
any additional questions.
Thank you, Amanda.
Obviously,
I stated earlier
that it's a complicated budget,
and I certainly
don't envy
your job,
but you do
a great work
in terms of
the analysis
that goes into everything
and how you present,
and not just this budget cycle,
but in past cycles as well,
so we do appreciate
the fact that
you're informing us,
you're informing the public,
so that we can make,
again,
thoughtful decisions.
So what we're going to do
is we're going to hear
from board members
who may have questions
or comments
relative to the presentation.
I'm told by the clerk
that we have
in excess of 80 speakers
signed up to speak,
and we're going to hear
from all of you
that want to address the board.
Again,
as a friendly reminder,
be prepared
I'm going to set
the clock at two minutes
for each speaker.
We're going to stick
very close to that
two minutes
so that everyone
who has a chance
to address the board
has that opportunity,
but we will start
by hearing
from Supervisor Rodriguez.
Good morning, Amanda.
I just want to say
that I think
you are an exceptional
chief fiscal officer.
Coming into this,
you know,
five months into this role,
there was a lot of angst
about going from
a $248 million budget
to a,
what is it,
$8.9 billion budget,
and so you have made it
very easier for me
to really understand
a very high-level impact
that I walked in here today
after, like,
many days of stress,
but I walked here today
just a little more confident
in what I know
and what I value
in this budget,
and so I want to thank you.
Thank you.
Supervisor Hume.
Thank you, Chair.
I have a couple of questions
that as we were going
through this presentation,
I was taking a deeper dive
into the budget.
My first question,
and this can be given
to me offline
if somebody's not prepared
to ask for it
or answer it now,
but what is Exodus Project?
So that is the contract
that I mentioned
in Public Defender
that is one of the recommended
reductions
but would be restored
in correctional health,
and I will tell you
a very basic answer,
and I'm sure somebody here
can give a more detailed one
if you would like it,
but it's essentially providing
pre- and post-release services
to jail inmates
and, again,
in support of the MACE consent.
I agree.
Okay.
It can be offline,
but I'd like a little more detailed
about who provides that
and what services are provided.
Then in the,
speaking of correctional health,
obviously that's one
of the largest appropriations increases
coming from net county cost,
and of the $6 million,
I believe, increase
that you showed on the slide,
the lion's share of that,
over $5 million,
I think by my calculations,
is going to the UCD
for the mental health services contracts.
And my question is,
and again,
I'm willing to take my answer
later today offline,
is how did we determine
that they would be our provider?
Is that,
are those services,
were they bid,
and I guess,
are we locked in?
How long is the term
of the contract?
Just, again,
happy to take that answer offline.
And then here's a question
that I have for you
that is where I really
was taking a deeper dive,
is in several of the
recommended growth requests,
it lists that this item
is contingent upon approval of,
and then it lists
another growth request.
For example,
PCR,
budget unit 720900,
or the capital construction fund,
budget unit 3100000,
right?
And so for me to try
and draw those lines
back to see,
and so I'll just cut
to my question
so that you can
maybe answer that,
which is,
of that $8.9 billion
in that pie chart
that you showed
of what is truly
the money
that you're not dependent
on the crazy uncle
to give you,
one of those
was interfund transfers,
or essentially
one department's
paying another,
and so I would assume
that in the,
if some growth request
is contingent
on another growth request
from another department
or in another area,
that that is going to be
one of those interfund.
And so could I also
extrapolate then
that it's potential
that the growth request
I'm looking at
shows a total appropriation
with no net county cost
because it's getting
its money
from the other department
that had the growth request,
but potentially were I
to source it back
to the original growth request,
there may be net county cost
in that growth request.
Does that,
does that happen
or no?
So that typically
is only going to happen
where the general fund
is funding expenditures
in another fund.
So an example of that
would be the $20 million
to roads.
If you were to look
at the roads fund,
you don't see
a net county cost,
but there is an appropriation
in a budget unit
that we call financing transfers,
which is the budget unit
that transfers money
out of the general fund
where you will see
that net county cost.
So you're absolutely right
when those requests
are linked,
it's because there's a source
in one fund
that's funding another fund.
Most often what those are
is restricted funds.
So you mentioned PCR,
patient care revenue,
that's a restricted funding source.
So you'll see
the appropriation there.
That's funding
a general fund expense.
That's not net county cost
in the general fund
because it's funded
with that restricted
funding source.
Great.
Thank you.
Supervisor Desmond.
Thank you, Mr. Chair,
and thank you, Manna,
for the presentation.
And I certainly echo
the sentiments
of Supervisor Rodriguez.
A couple quick questions
I had for you.
One on the growth,
recommended growth.
And I know we addressed
this a little bit
during the slide
where you talk about
the sheriff,
one million net county costs
and growth
for positions related
to Mays.
So can you put a little
maybe finer point on that
because I think people
might look at this
and be confused
that, you know,
on the one hand
we're recommending cuts
to the sheriff's department
but on the other hand
we're recommending growth
to the sheriff's department.
Explain what those
positions are for.
And also I believe
part of that is only
for funding
for three months.
Can you explain
that as well?
Yeah, that's correct.
So the first part
of that were
those are positions
that are being added
to provide escorts
for medical
and dental appointments.
So again,
this is supporting
the Mays Consent Decree
remedial plan
that has, you know,
sort of requirements
around, you know,
care provided
to inmates
and the availability
of sheriff's deputies
to escort
to those appointments
is critical
for that care
to be provided.
So those are
the positions
that are funded
for the entire year.
And then you're correct.
Another part of that,
as I mentioned,
this impacts both
the correctional health budget
and the sheriff's budget
where there's an expansion
of the acute psychiatric unit.
There's some physical improvements
that need to happen
before that can be opened
and those aren't expected
to be done
until approximately
three months
before the end
of the fiscal year.
So the operating costs
that we are budgeting for
are just three months
of those costs.
Of course,
we will have 12 months
of those costs
in the following fiscal year.
Sort of, again,
to the point
of structural balance, right?
I mean, you know,
that's something
I think we need
to be aware of
is that there are
additional ongoing costs
associated
with these recommendations.
So that one specifically
is nine positions,
so eight deputy sheriffs
and one sergeant
for the acute psychiatric unit expansion.
So the three months of cost
is $476,000,
but you would effectively
multiply that by four
to get to an annual cost.
Okay.
Okay.
And then one other question
I had about
our general fund reserves.
And I'm looking at the chart
on page 28 of 30
of the board letter.
And we have the,
obviously,
the discretionary,
non-discretionary,
but we have dedicated
and non-dedicated.
So looking at the dedicated,
we have the two categories there,
and I'm hoping
you can explain
a little bit to me about,
I remember
the American River Parkway
homeless funding discussion,
that $5 million.
And then explain to me
what that was for
and then also
the ARPA CBO capacity building.
Can you explain that?
A little bit
and what that is dedicated for?
Yeah.
So I will start
with the American River Parkway homeless,
which is,
this is a reserve
that was added
at Supervisor Cerna's suggestion
during budget hearings
a few years ago.
I think with the intention
of, you know,
identifying a use
in terms of a facility
and facility improvements
that would help provide
sheltering capacity
and address homelessness
on the parkway.
I'm happy to defer
if I didn't get
any of that correct.
Okay.
Yeah, no,
I think Amanda's
generally correct.
I think it was a little
broader than that.
I think it was really
to have some resources
available to address
the impacts
associated with
folks that are unsheltered
as it relates
to the parkway.
So I would say
that certainly
could be used
for sheltering,
but it could also
be used
to address
the actual impacts
that occur
on the parkway.
And I will definitely
have to say,
I have a lot more
to say about that
$5 million
a little bit later
as a preview
of coming attractions
because I've given
that a lot of thought
and I think
this is the budget cycle
we need to consider
allocating that
for that $5 million
for its intended use.
Supervisor Desmond,
as we jump into
the CBO capacity building,
Siobhan's been running
the project
for quite some time
and having public hearings
so maybe she can touch
on exactly what that is.
Great, thank you.
So Siobhan Gattari,
Deputy County Executive.
So the intent
of the CBO capacity building
when the board set it aside
a couple of years ago
when we received
ARPA funding
was to really ensure
that the CBOs
that are working
with the most impacted
communities in our area
built the capacity
in order to have
a greater impact
and so the board
set aside just over
$7 million.
That since then
we've decided
to use the ARPA money
for other critical services
around COVID
and we're using
the general fund
for the CBO capacity building.
There's three real objectives
with that money.
One is we want to ensure
that as a county
we're making ourselves
as barrier free
to work with some
of these CBOs
that are doing
the critical work
so these are
process improvements
we're making
to the way
that we RFP
that we contract
that we provide
payments to them
those types of things.
The second intent
is to make sure
we're communicating
and partnering with them
coming alongside
to hear what the needs are
so that we can develop
strategies that can have
the greatest impact
and then the third intent
was really to get
funding out the door
to them in the form
of grants
to be able to ensure
that they can enhance
their capacity
to serve
the critical needs
surrounding
issues like homelessness
as an example
or mental health.
So right now
you had set aside
just over 7 million
we have just over
6.8 million
left in that bucket.
We were intending
to actually get
that money
out the door
this spring
when we found
that the federal
and state budgets
were being impacted
for some of our
social safety net programs.
We put a pause
on that
to see what would happen
with the budget
over the next several months
and we've communicated
that to our CBOs
and our partners
and we will see
how this plays out
and then make some decisions
with your input.
Thanks.
Thank you.
And in terms of
maybe it's a little bit
of a misnomer
to say ARPA
I mean this is essentially
general fund dollars
that we could use.
Absolutely.
This is general fund.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you.
And supervisor
just to make sure
you heard this portion
of it
although the table
that you referenced
is $6.949 million
the actual number
left right now
is $6.821 million.
$6.821.
And I know
this goes without saying
but I will just say
of course everything
you see on this table
is one time.
Yes.
You do your job well
Amanda.
Supervisor Kinney.
Thank you very much.
I'll have
also have comments
later about
both of those two funds.
I think supervisor
Cerno
and I will probably
be on the same page
on one of the two.
The
one specific question
I have
just because
I received
I think we received
correspondence
as late as last night
from the Sacramento
County Office
of Education
and the
cuts to
the
educational services
for foster youth
including
our welcome homes.
The
question
from
SCOE
and the superintendent
is can we
kick the can
down the road
a bit
between
now and September
to give them
an opportunity
to
come up with
a plan
and maybe do
a little better job
of coordinating
with them
to ensure
this is their
statement
to ensure
that those services
aren't lost
and they're funded.
That's part of it
and I'm
wondering if we
can
number one
and number
two
is
is there a
risk if we
stop funding
those
that
program
or those
services
that we're
going to
withhold
educational services
for some of
our most
vulnerable
and those
youth that
need it
the most.
So I think
I can answer
the first part
of that question
and then I'll
probably defer to
Siobhan for the
second part.
I mean
of course
the board
can choose
to fund
whatever
you all
agree to
here.
We would just
need to identify
an available source
of funding
to do that
and I think
if we're thinking
about this
as a ramp down
a one-time source
of funding
would make more
sense
and then I'll
defer to Siobhan.
Yeah and I'm
going to have
Shelby Boston
our DC fast
director come up
and just answer
the second part
of that question
for you.
So Amanda
if I mean
so we would fund
it but it still
means things could
change between now
and September
anyway be it
up or down.
Correct
but if it's funded
in this budget
it would need
to have a funding
source.
I understand
we identify
the funding source
but it still
could go away
between now
and September
should we come
up with a better
plan with SCOE
that works
for both parties.
Thank you.
Good morning
Chair Cerna
and members
of the board
Shelby Boston
director of DC fast
department of child
family and adult
services.
Thank you for the
question.
As you know
this was a difficult
recommendation to
make.
The bright side
is that the
foster youth services
that are provided
to our department
and to the children
in foster care
are a mandated
service of SCOE
and so we
have already
started conversations
with their staff
to determine
if we can
seek alternative
funding through
drawing down
Title IV
E funds.
It does require
a match
so we need
to explore
that more
thoroughly
but we want
to ensure
that there
is the ability
to maintain
the service
array.
We have been
paying for an
enhanced level
of service
which is
beneficial
but we
believe that
we have
some opportunity
there for
some seeking
of what other
jurisdictions are
already doing
that we haven't
done here
historically in
Sacramento.
Okay so the
superintendent has
come forward
with an offer
to you know
can we work
something out
like you know
we just found
out about this
May 22nd
hasn't given
us an opportunity
to create a
new program
and to be able
to backfill
this but no
one's saying
it can't be done.
What I'm concerned
about is if we
make a decision
today to go
along with a
recommendation
to not fund
this and they
don't have
anything in place
and we haven't
worked with them
to put anything
in place is that
funding going to
just immediately
stop and therefore
the programs stop
and the services
stop.
Right so we're
basing our
conversations with
them on what
the superintendent
staff has shared
that they're
willing to continue
perhaps a little
modified maybe
not as many
in person
visits to the
welcome home
as they had
agreed to in
the current
contract but we
believe that we'll
be able to reach
some sort of
resolution within
the next I would
say probably six
months.
Okay thank you.
You're welcome.
A little follow up
to that though
Shelby so you
referenced the
prospect of
looking at title
4E with a
match.
How vulnerable
or likely maybe
that's the better
part of the question
would that be
given the
disposition of
the Trump
administration
and kind of
the chaos
that they
weave.
Yeah I wish
I had the
crystal ball.
I'm not hearing
anything related
to foster youth
impacts at this
time on the
federal level
and we're
closely watching
that.
Okay thank you.
All right.
Thank you.
Okay a little house
keeping here.
So the clerk
has reminded me
that both the sheriff
and the DA
have separate
presentations.
So we are first
going to hear
from that is if the
board does not have
any more questions
for Amanda.
I don't see any.
We are going to hear
from the sheriff
I assume or the
undersheriff I'm not
sure who's presenting
but from the sheriff's
department.
And then we will
then take questions
from the board
for the sheriff
and his staff.
Then we will
proceed to hear
from the district
attorney and members
of the board will
have an opportunity
to ask questions
of the district
attorney and then
we will finally
move on to the
public.
Welcome Sheriff
Cooper.
Thank you
supervisor.
And good morning
board members.
I'm going to go
back to the
board.
I'm going to go
back to the
board.
I'm going to go
back when I'm done.
So starting
with slide one.
Core law enforcement
functions are
considered jails,
patrol, and criminal
investigations.
Non-core law
enforcement functions
are important
but nice to have.
As you can see
we respond to a lot
of calls.
Slide three.
In past budget
cycles I have
asked for more
deputies to address
MACE consent
issues that were
denied.
Those positions
were similar to the
ones that this
year's recommended.
Am I doing?
Can you hear me?
Oh.
Sorry.
Okay.
These positions
were similar to the
ones in this year's
recommended budget.
However, I did not
ask for them.
I was asked to put
them on by the
county exec's office.
All the positions
are to support adult
correctional health.
They do nothing for me
to address our issues
outside of MACE,
especially at the
cost of losing
critical units like
the HOT or POP
teams.
Next slide.
As the population
increases, so do
the number of calls
for service we receive.
The unknowns, like
Prop 36, will
increase a greater
demand for service.
Per FBI stats, the
average 911 response
for large jurisdictions
is eight minutes.
Ours is almost 14
minutes.
Think about that.
The majority of law
enforcement agencies in
the nation respond with
eight minutes.
Ours is 14.
This is due to being
understaffed in patrol.
Next slide.
Three of the recommended
cuts are non-core
functions, but I do
consider them critical.
In my AGRs, I actually
asked for more
deputies for the
homeless outreach team,
not less.
Next slide.
The recommended cuts to
HOT and POP will impact
the quality of life to
our constituents.
Since 2022, I have met
the Board of Soup's
expectations on staffing
the HOT team and has
been a success.
I have also put an
emphasis on POP teams
and how they address
the quality of life
issues in our county.
Under my direction, both
of these teams routinely
work with you to address
ongoing crime problems
and blight in your
districts.
This will not or cannot
continue if the
recommended cuts are
adopted.
It will be directly
impacted by patrol
deputies and their
response to 911 phone
calls.
Next slide.
Our CCW program has
never been funded by
the Board.
The Sheriff's Office has
been left on its own to
fund the entire program
from salary savings.
The majority of the
CCW applications I
process are from
constituents living in
cities, not the
county.
I do not have a legal
obligation to take
applications from people
living in the cities.
The cities within the
county do not have
CCW units.
The best solution is
for you to increase the
application fee so the
program is cost neutral.
Excuse me, Sheriff?
Yes.
Just for the benefit of
the public, CCW is?
Oh, concealed weapons
permits.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Supervisor Kenny?
While we're interrupting
the Sheriff, on that
particular issue, you and
I have had this
conversation, just for
edification, in the past
when we've tried to do
this, we've been blocked
by the state of
California, but we now
have the availability to do
this, correct?
Yes.
That would be great.
Thank you.
Of all the recommended
cuts, I do consider the
marine detail reduction a
core function.
They enforce all the laws
on the waterways and the
primary law enforcement
unit on the water.
This Memorial Day alone,
they logged 30 law
enforcement actions,
including 11 public
assists.
Those are boaters in
trouble.
That's in one day.
We are the only law
enforcement marine unit that
conducts body recovery and
environmental cleanup in
our region.
So for the first hour, fire
is responsible for rescue.
After that, we're
responsible for recovery.
In the past 12 months,
they've removed 49
abandoned vessels,
recovered almost 10
vehicles, half of which
included body recoveries.
There remains over 20
identified submerged
vehicles still targeted
for removal.
Next slide.
Supervisor Kenny?
Thank you.
On the marine unit,
Sheriff, I apologize again,
but so this actually, it
goes beyond just
enforcement.
It's also recovery.
It's, and not just
recovery of an
unfortunate situation
where there's bodies
involved, but also
vehicles.
Is that correct?
Correct.
And these are vehicles
that Supervisor Human and
I are aware as members of
the Delta Counties
Coalition that are a
tremendous impact on the
environment throughout the
Delta.
So, so it actually goes
beyond law enforcement and
you're doing environmental
cleanup in a way.
Yes.
And actually, we got a, I
succeeded in getting a grant
from the state.
Yep.
With the assistance of
Senator Ashby for about a
million and a half, I think.
Yep.
And it is a boat to dive off
of our diver team to go in
and get those boats.
But one of the big issues is
for every car to recover,
the tow companies will charge
you about $2,000 to pull
that car out of the river to
recover their costs.
So it's, so it's very
expensive, similar to our
tow program.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So since 2005 until now,
the Sheriff's Office sworn
staff has decreased by 10.6%.
The population of the county
has grown by 21%.
We have almost 200 less sworn
officers today than we did
20 years ago.
We have the least number of
officers per 10,000 residents
than all other law enforcement
agencies in the county.
Next slide.
We continue to feel the impact
of the recession.
Supervisor, you.
Thank you.
Sorry, sorry to interrupt you,
Sheriff.
With reference to that
previous slide, I know that
it used to be there was an
industry standard of one
officer per 1,000 residents
or thereabouts.
Yes.
Can you give me an idea what
Sacramento County Sheriff's
Office is?
We're.
It's coming up.
It's coming up?
Okay, thank you.
Supervisor Desmond.
Okay.
Okay.
Got to be quick on the draw
here.
We continue to feel the
impact of the recession even
as the county's population
grows.
I had the same number of
homicide detectives today
the Sheriff's Office had 20
years ago.
In 2007, there were 23 child
abuse and sexual abuse
detectives.
Today, 20 years later, I have
15.
That is eight less than I had
20 years ago with a population
increase of 21%.
We run one of five ICACs,
Internet Crimes Against
Children Child Pornography Task
Forces in the state covering all
of Northern California.
We have 15,000 tips last year
that generated 12,000 cases.
The Sheriff's Office is dead last
of officers per population
among all other law enforcement
agencies in the county.
In addition to being last, we have
the most square miles to cover
per officer.
Because of insufficient staffing for
our 911 response time, as well as
the above average of agencies our
size, the average is eight minutes.
Response time for 911 phone call.
As I said earlier, our response
time averages 14 minutes, which is
woefully inadequate.
Next slide.
With these critical deficiencies,
our AGRs were modest.
To begin with, to address crimes
against children and the elderly,
we sought four new detective
positions that were rejected.
To keep pace with the growth,
growing fentanyl and meth crisis,
we sought four detectives.
That was rejected.
I asked for more HOT and Marine
deputies with the result of the
entire HOT team being totally
unfunded.
I had a priority request for an IT
chief position that would save the
county $90,000.
That was rejected by the county
exec's office.
Next slide.
We've heard a lot about MACE today,
and MACE continues to cost the
county millions annually with little
results.
20 months ago, I had a press
conference, and it did make some of
you happy, talking about the MACE
issues.
Those issues still persist.
The needle has moved some, but
overall, not a lot.
As you've heard from your own staff,
the cost per year ranges from $90 to
$100 million.
The risk of receivership or heavy
fines by the courts is real.
The actions of correctional health
care aren't only costing the county
millions.
It's costing my department millions.
Overtime, extra help and medical
runs cost me over $30 million this
physical year.
So typically, when MACE go out because
of ACH, I lose 25% of my JEL staff.
So you talk about programming, talk
about pill call, medical calls, other
visits.
You can't do that or program because you
don't have staffing there.
Just in the few months since Prop 36
was implemented, the JEL's average daily
population has grown by over 200.
The new courthouse, the public voted for
Prop 36.
That's who voted for it.
70% of the public in California and
cities like San Francisco and L.A.
voted for it.
You voted for the voters.
That's who voted for it.
The courthouse is coming online soon.
I'm going to need to staff that.
It's projected to take over 30 sworn
deputies to meet its needs.
We're getting very little help
financially from the California
Department of Finance.
Next slide.
Our academies are beginning to return to
full capacity.
Salary savings are crucial as it pays for
our deputy sheriffs, recruits, and
overtime related to the jails and patrol.
The goal is to cut heavily into our
vacancy rate to fill critical needs and
control overtime and extra help.
A glimpse of California right now,
departments are paying laterals, signing
bonuses, anywhere from $5,000 to $100,000
in the Bay Area for a fully trained officer.
We can't compete against that.
And that's why it's so hard to hire right
now.
And also, the state of this, the state of
California, who wants to be a cop?
And it's hard to hire.
You're working days, nights, weekends,
holidays.
You're missing your kids' birthdays.
You're missing anniversaries.
And you see a lot of bad stuff.
It is really tough to hire these days.
So we want to cut heavily into our vacancy rate.
I think it happens to fill that.
I'm taking a hard look at reducing the size
and number of special operations.
They're critical, but very expensive to operate.
Next slide.
Obviously, we support those recommendations
for those eliminations of these three positions
that don't do a lot.
It's not a lot of money.
Next slide.
Next slide.
On this slide, I just want to reiterate
the impact of the loss.
You know what HOT does.
You know what POP does.
The marine detail and obviously CCW.
Hopefully, you'll vote on that.
That would be cost neutral if we did that.
Next slide.
I didn't ask for the APU or escort deputies.
I was asked to include them by the CEO's office.
Funding these positions creates a need
for me to offer up cuts,
such as HOT and POP teams.
The CCW program needs to be cost neutral.
I would consider ideas with the youth services unit.
How about this?
Instead of cutting those positions,
there's an opportunity to use them
for the MAIS efforts and APU efforts.
It goes back to me offering a $90,000
in cost savings for an IT efficiency.
I'm confused why that got shot down.
Next slide.
We're done with that.
You know, you think about it
with correctional health services,
6.3 million net county costs
to support MAIS consent decree remedial plan.
Health services, 5.3 million net costs
to the county to support MCD behavioral health.
Sheriff's office, 1.1 million to support ACH for MCD
with 500,000 for three deputies,
or up to eight deputies for three months.
Why would I do that?
Why would I fund full-time positions for three months?
That makes no sense.
We're not going to do that.
And then this year, obviously,
12.7 million total growth toward MCD
in the recommended budget,
and 14.2 million in continued costs
if APU programs continue.
Let's go back.
Not all of you board members are here,
but we had an offer of $80 million
to build a new facility.
It was not built.
That could have alleviated this.
That's real talk.
So part of this, we own.
That's real talk.
On the MAIS consent decree,
80% or 20% is sheriff's issues
that we deal with.
80% is county issues.
ACH and DGS.
You know that.
You've seen the numbers.
That's a big issue.
So every time something happens in the jail,
my name's on there,
Sheriff Jim Cooper,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I don't control ACH.
I don't control DGS.
That's the frustration.
They aren't saying the board of supervisors.
They aren't saying your name.
They're saying my name.
How do we solve that?
And I talked before about having one person,
one decision maker that reports to the board
to deal with this.
Right now siloed.
That does not work.
Like I said, we're 20 months out,
almost two years from that press conference
and not all that has changed.
DGS is doing better.
Absolutely.
County counsel, full-time Monica Robinson.
She's awesome.
But still, there's no sense of urgency
for a lot of people to deal with this.
This is the Achilles heel.
I heard a lot of conversation today
about the MAIS consent decree.
We know it's a problem.
Deal with it.
Fix it.
100 million a year.
I was with a doctor yesterday
on the elevator leaving the hospital.
Telehealth for pediatrics in the evenings.
Our telehealth program is pretty much non-existent.
Ask for the numbers.
I talked about that 20 months ago.
We should be using the hell out of telehealth.
Why aren't we?
That's a disconnect.
Why are we sending deputies out with inmates?
Hell, you could put a doctor in there
or a nurse practitioner and make a difference.
No one's sneaking out of the box.
You've got separate folks running separate programs.
I keep going back, and I said this 20 months ago.
One person has to run it, not two people.
And they're accountable to the board.
But just we keep pouring money after money.
It's like shiny objects.
We're going to money on this, money on that.
Why are we doing that?
It makes no sense.
It makes no sense to me
that $100 million a year that we're forced to pay
could be better used elsewhere
and cut money down.
There are opportunities.
I'm working on that.
So here's what scares me.
My deputies have refused about half a dozen patients
that ACH admitted.
They cleared to be booked in for medical.
We said no.
That is not happening anywhere in California,
in the 58 counties, except here.
It's a problem.
When you have to have a deputy intervene,
say, no, you know what?
This inmate's not fit for incarceration,
and send them back.
That's troublesome.
We cannot have that.
It's a problem with ACH.
It has to get fixed.
It's like sometimes, in my mind,
with certain people, you know,
Rome is burning and someone's just fiddling,
not really caring,
and not having a sense of urgency.
And it can't be that way.
It has to change.
So like I said,
this has been going on for two years.
The courts have gotten more aggressive with this.
We've been dragging our feet
and making mistakes along the way.
And it's one of those
is not being tactical, practical,
and efficient in allocating money
to projects that make a difference.
And another is somewhat lack of urgency view
of what failure means.
And failure hurts everybody,
not just the sheriff's office,
all county programs,
when you have a judge dictating
where you will spend your money at.
We don't want receivership.
And that's where we're headed to right now.
Receivership is scary.
Failure is around the corner,
and I fear it's going to start
with heavy sanctions.
Some progress has been made,
I said earlier, on the operational side.
So it's working better,
but still, that sense of urgency
has to happen.
But it's not enough.
And one thing I would ask for this board
is one person in charge of this,
of everything, all maze, all jail stuff.
It has to be that way,
and it will be so much better.
Someone who can coordinate
all parts of the consent decree
with all the parties involved.
One person who can report directly
back to the stakeholders
and the board without limitations
of other duties, oversight, and assignments.
I know a lot of comments were made,
and I know about the discussions
with the CEO's office,
and they weren't adversarial.
So I want to have the undersheriff
talk about that
and just kind of give you a picture
of how we got to where we are
because he was directly involved
in those negotiations.
Good morning, Chair, board members.
I think it's worthwhile
almost to defend ourselves
on how we've came to the conclusion
on the recommended cuts that,
you could say recommended cuts
that we don't support,
and the healthy
and productive relationship
that the sheriff's office has had,
especially me.
I've done all the budget negotiations,
and I call them negotiations on purpose.
I know what the government code says.
Supervisor, we're all aware
that we can spend our money.
You know, the board gives us money.
We can spend it how we want,
but that's not how we operate
the sheriff's department.
I've had over a dozen conversations
with D.C. Jones,
whether they're on their phone
or in person,
with Amanda Thomas on these issues,
and so some clarification
on how we came.
These are critical.
These are hard decisions, right?
When we have something
that before the sheriff was elected
was blessed by giving bodies
to handle the homeless problem,
or at least our piece of it
in the county,
we came in,
and it was pretty apparent to us
that that commitment at that time
had not been held up.
The sheriff's priority,
day one,
was to hold that commitment
to the board of supervisors
and actually do something,
and so to actually see
the hot teams
and the pop teams
that deal with quality of life,
abatements,
things that really impact people
in their neighborhoods
is painful for us.
It's not easy,
but it comes down to
when the decisions were made,
it came down to non-core functions
as core functions.
Say that the hot team
and the pop team
are non-core function,
I would like to also add
that they are critical functions,
but when you see
that we are dead last
in the county
on our staffing
and 911 response,
and we are dead last
in the county
on sworn personnel
and patrol,
I mean,
if you saw the numbers,
they went pretty quick.
SAC PD has almost double
the officers that we have
to response to 911,
double.
And so the decision
that the discussions,
discussions again
that I had
directly with the CEO's office
was we can't touch
the core functions.
We can't touch field services,
obviously can't,
with minimum staffing levels,
we can't touch corrections,
and you saw the numbers
on our investigative units.
20 years ago,
we had the same amount
of homicide detectives
that we do today
with an increase
of 200,000
in the population.
So those were
off the table for us.
There are some things
and some statements
were made
that the CEO's office
offered up
some other alternatives,
and that's absolutely true.
One of those alternatives
was to cut the hot team
and the pot team in half.
Well,
we have to have some credit
of being the largest
law enforcement agency
in the region,
and we know what works
operationally
and logistically,
and you cut those teams
in half,
you might as well
not even have them.
We're stuck with
the 1.9% target.
We're stuck with
a 7.4 reduction target,
million reduction target,
and so things like
YSU or extra help
would not have gotten
us to those numbers.
So in good faith,
we got to the 7.4.
It wasn't a political game.
It wasn't flexing.
It wasn't anything like that,
and we went back and forth
and discussed these issues
in great detail
in cooperation,
and that's how we got
to the hot and pot teams
and the Marine unit,
which are all very,
very painful for us.
It was a hard decision
for us,
but I think it's important
that you know
how we got there.
It wasn't a dictatorship.
It was a cooperative
negotiations between us
and the CEO's office.
I'm going to interject here.
That's fine.
I get that,
and I say that respectfully.
Ultimately,
ultimately,
who is recommending
the cuts,
and who has the authority
to do that?
We're doing that,
and we told you
the reason why,
and the thing is,
I don't want to cut
hot and pop,
but I've got to do
9-1-1 response.
That is horrific,
14 minutes
compared to 8 minutes.
I understand.
So it comes down to that.
Absolutely, yes.
Just like the MACE
consent decree,
we're in this position
because of issues
with the board.
That's why we're here.
It didn't get built.
That's a fact.
And it was also solely
the discretion
of the Sheriff's Department
when asked about
come back to,
you know,
the CEO's office
says come back,
and then you had
the conversation
about restoration,
and you restored,
correct me if I'm wrong,
one of the restorations
is youth services.
Okay?
Let me ask you,
is youth services
a core activity?
No, it's nice to have.
Right.
And bottom line,
it's 9-1-1 response.
That's the most important thing.
When these folks
in this room,
I live in Sacramento County,
call and want a deputy there,
that's the most important thing.
Is it important?
Absolutely.
But the core response
is 9-1-1 response, period.
I don't disagree with you.
I'm just perplexed
why youth services
is a restoration,
yet it's not a core service.
And yesterday,
we had a conversation
about military equipment,
and one of your deputies
was saying that part
of the infrastructure
you use for youth services
are things like Humvees
with Xboxes.
That, to me,
is, I agree with you,
not a core service.
So I don't understand
why it's a restoration,
Chair.
I think about yesterday.
I watched that video
of the hearing yesterday,
you talking about that.
A lot of those are paid
through other fundings for it.
And on one incident,
we used five drones
that someone destroyed on that.
And I would rather send a drone in
and use some of that
military equipment.
And these are drones
you can buy at Costco,
so it's not really
military equipment.
Let's be clear on that, okay?
It's not military equipment.
But on that,
I would rather send a drone in
and get it destroyed
than having us have a bad outcome
and take someone's life,
number one.
That's important to me.
And that's not at the cost
of a position.
I don't disagree,
but we're not talking
about drones right now.
Or my deputies
that have died
in the line of duty,
like Jeff Mitchell,
Danny Oliver,
Bob French,
Mark Stasic,
Adam Gibson,
Vu Nguyen.
I'm just saying,
those things are tools.
They're great tools.
They work good.
And we're going to use them.
We're going to buy
military equipment,
quote unquote,
but it's really not.
It's like the command bus
is military equipment.
So I get what you're saying,
Supervisor,
but we're spending
a lot of money
elsewhere.
That $100 million a year
on May's consent
is still hanging out there.
And that's a big issue.
And I will agree
all day long.
There's some benefit
to these services,
but I think I just heard you say,
why not find
a different funding source?
So why not rely on
some future grants?
You want to give us positions
to deal with APU and ACH.
That's a problem created
not by me.
It's a problem with the county.
That's a county issue.
So those positions,
take those positions back.
I'll make it work.
I never asked those positions.
I was asked to do that.
And you go back
and look at AGRs.
Previous years,
I've asked for things
that dealt with May's.
It was denied
since I've been here
and when Scott Jones was here
to deal with May's directly.
All of a sudden this year,
we get the AGRs
asked to deal with May's
because we got asked
by the CEO's office
to do it,
and we did it
out of cooperation.
Supervisor Desmond.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
And thank you, Sheriff.
I appreciate the presentation
and under Sheriff Ziegler
and I especially appreciate
the discussion
about the negotiation
you had with the county staff.
And the first thing I want to,
I want to hold off
on the conversation
on the AGRs
because I do want to get to that
and your proposal.
But first,
I want to drill down
a little bit about
that ratio slide
that we had a few slides back.
I think it's important
to put that back up there
and maybe it affects me
because 90% of my constituents
live in the county
and they are exclusively served
by the Sacramento County
Sheriff's Department.
So it impacts,
certainly impacts
the residents
in my district
disproportionately,
I think,
when we see these ratios
so low.
And I think it's also important
for the public
to understand
that we are talking about,
you know,
the Sheriff's Department
has two major parts.
One is the correctional side
and one is the patrol side.
And Sacramento County
Sheriff's Department
has probably a larger
patrol responsibility
than just about any
Sheriff's Department
in the state of California.
I mean,
I think that's,
except maybe L.A. County.
And I'd ask Mr. Chair
if we can keep the comments
from the crowd
at a minimum.
And we know exactly
what we're talking about,
the peanut gallery.
But what would it,
you know,
I think about this,
Sheriff,
and I'd like to ask,
you know,
what would it take?
Do you,
are there enough
vacant positions
right now
in the Sheriff's Office
to improve that ratio?
If we get them down,
it will help.
It's not the end all,
the be all.
But a lot of that money
we're using
to run recruits
in the academy,
the salary savings
for paid positions.
And then,
you know,
I had this discussion
with Britt Ferguson,
Amanda's predecessor,
a few years ago,
and I asked him
to break down,
hey,
separate out
the correctional side
of the Sheriff's Department.
I want to know
how many resources
we have
per 10,000 people
in unincorporated
Sacramento County.
And I think even
back then,
obviously,
it was still
much lower
than we see
with a lot of
other police departments.
And we have to be
looking at that measurement
in terms of
the service delivery
to folks out
in the unincorporated areas.
When it comes
to the discussion,
and I appreciate
the Chair's discussion
about the hot
and the pop team
and how you prioritized
what you prioritized.
And, you know,
I understand,
you know,
that's nuanced.
I also understand
your primary role
is to respond
to 911 calls.
And I do appreciate,
Sheriff,
that when you did,
you kept your promise
to all of us.
You kept your promise
that you would
restore the hot
and pop resources,
which I think
are critical
to our respective
communities
and the impact
it's having
in our communities,
the impact
it's having
for small businesses,
for folks
in their neighborhoods.
It does make
a profound difference.
But in my discussions
with a lot of folks
in the Sheriff's Department,
including, you know,
other friends
in the Highway Patrol,
I know that
the more specialized units
that are pulled away,
pulled away
from just primary
patrol functions,
that has an impact
on the patrol functions
in terms of
the amount of overtime
the officers have to work
to keep up,
the call volume
that they're facing.
And I hear that
from the Highway Patrol
in terms of
all the things
the governor
is pulling the CHP
to do,
and that's taking away
from their primary
patrol functions.
Is that the kind
of dynamic
that you're facing
by keeping the hot
and the pop team
staffed
without getting
some relief
in terms of
more patrol deputies?
Yeah, it's true.
We've done our
human trafficking operations.
We probably rescued
probably 20 juveniles.
Those operations
are about $70,000
per operation,
but you can't put
a price on
the life of a juvenile.
So yeah,
you're absolutely right,
Supervisor.
Okay.
And then I want to ask
the, you know,
and when it comes
to the ACH,
I mean,
I do appreciate
that you were here,
Sheriff,
I think a month,
was that about
a month ago,
our board meeting?
Maybe a few weeks ago.
And then we also,
you know,
we had a closed session
discussion,
and I think
we should continue that.
I, I, I,
I'm, you know,
we're not going to
resolve a lot of these
things here in terms
of who's responsible
to county,
but I think that was
a very productive
discussion.
We should continue
doing that.
I'm looking at
Siobhan and our county exec,
but in terms of those
AGR positions,
and I know, Amanda,
we, you and I
had a little bit
of an exchange about this,
but I'm wondering
if you could delve
into it a little more
about why this,
the sheriff's idea
to simply just,
hey, maybe we cut less,
and we require the sheriff
to use existing staffing
to carry out those duties
that those AGR positions
are dedicated towards.
Can you explain why
we didn't either have
that discussion
or go that route?
I will start,
and I think I may end up
deferring to Deputy County
Executive Jones,
but, you know,
I think, I think, again,
sort of getting back
to your question
about what specificity
do we need to have
in the budget?
I think, you know,
we wanted to be
transparent about
what the requirements are,
what the, you know,
what our obligations are
and the things
that we have identified
as, you know, needs,
additional resource needs,
and I think that
that was the case
for those medical escorts
and the APU expansion.
So I wanted to make sure
that resources were provided
for those obligations.
Thank you.
And Eric Jones,
Deputy County Executive,
Public Safety and Justice.
I will just add that
it was a growth request,
and it is true
that the county exec's office
asked those to be put in there
after several meetings
about what is needed
for Mays.
We couldn't,
we couldn't even fund
all of the growth requests
for Mays.
We had to really
superprioritize it.
We had to have discussions
with class counsel.
Their top concern this year
for the Mays consent decree
class counsel
is around health services,
behavioral health,
medical health services
in the jail,
and so we need to do this APU,
the acute psychiatric unit,
as well as IOP,
intensive outpatient care,
and so the medical escorts
are needed to ensure
we are improving
in those areas.
So that is the only growth request
for the sheriff's office
that the county executive office
approved because it was Mays related.
Anything not Mays related
was not approved this cycle.
Okay.
Thank you.
That's helpful.
I just want to be clear.
I mean,
did we separate those positions out
because that is something
we need to show compliance
with Mays,
in your opinion,
and I guess I can look
at our county council as well
because I think
it's an important discussion,
especially in terms of
the sheriff's proposal here.
It is Supervisor Desmond,
and I had a talk
with Monica Robinson
who's assigned
to Mays consent decree
and confirmed that
with her as well.
Okay.
All right.
Well,
and that's
an important point.
Can we go back
to your proposal
really quick,
if you don't mind,
sheriff,
maybe scroll back forward
to the proposal,
the last slide.
I don't know where it was.
So I'm interested in this,
then.
If,
if,
say we keep the two AGRs
where they are
as separate,
what would this look like?
What would be the impact
monetarily?
Because I think right now
it's 8.1 million.
If,
with the CCW fees,
the youth services,
and an additional AGR
for IT,
what would be
the fiscal impact
to the sheriff
if those,
if that proposal,
if we evaluated
that proposal,
Amanda,
or I,
you know,
I guess you're the right one
to ask.
So,
I think what we had
identified in terms of,
if we're just looking
at the CCW fees,
that,
that,
that is a,
that's right now
it was a net county cost
of,
I believe,
840,000.
So we would be saying
that net cost
would,
would go away
if I'm understanding
this correctly.
And then the youth services unit,
that was identified
as a net cost
of about $1.4 million.
So that's currently funded
in the budget.
Just to clarify,
the CCW fees
are included
in the recommended
reductions already.
They entered 40,000.
Okay.
So it would really be
just the,
the youth services
is the,
the new one.
And the IT chief position
would be
an expenditure.
Okay.
90,000.
Okay.
Well,
that's all.
I mean,
I,
I,
I,
I just a preview.
I am going to be looking
to,
for ways to restore
funding to the sheriff's department.
And I'll talk more
about that later.
Thank you.
Thank you, supervisor.
Before we get to supervisor Hume,
I do want to address his request
and just remind everyone
that we do have an expectation
during our proceedings
for respectful and polite behavior,
especially as it relates
to not interrupting our speakers.
It doesn't matter
if it's the sheriff
or another member of the public.
This is already going to be a long day.
Our speaker list has increased.
I have no problem as chair
putting us in recess
and clearing chambers
if people insist on
not respecting our expectations.
And when I say ours,
I mean everyone in this room,
not just the boards.
So if you think
it's going to be a long day,
I can make it a lot longer.
And you'll have, you know,
the people that caused that recess
to thank.
Keep that in mind.
Supervisor Hume.
And also, please,
silence your cell phones, please.
Thank you, chair.
You know, I think there's probably
going to be a lot of sausage making
that happens later today
as we parse through these issues.
But you mentioned, Jim,
that you're at a hearing over
on the other side of the river
or something else going on today.
So I don't know if you're
going to stick around.
So I just wanted to say
while you're here
that I want to thank you
for the work that you've been doing
relative to sex crimes
and human trafficking.
The work you've been putting into
taking fentanyl poisoning seriously
and reducing the likelihood
of deaths from that
and getting that terrible drug
off our streets.
The criminal acts
within and upon
our unhoused encampments
and also the negative impacts
those encampments have
on our larger community.
And then the last thing is
retail theft.
And, you know,
I see the billboards
that you're kind of
putting people on notice
that it's a new day
and we will have consequences again.
And that was even before
the passage of Prop 36.
And I think with the passage
of Prop 36,
we have a pretty clear mandate
from the voters
of what they expect.
And so, you know,
if you're not here,
I'm going to have
a similar message
to the DA
with respect to his situation.
But I just want to say
I support the work
that you're doing.
I'm trying,
we will try and find a way
to figure out
a better path forward.
But I just want to point out,
and I say this not for
any kind of equivocation,
but just as a frame of reference
of how the landscape
has changed,
budget dollars relative
to that big building
wherever it is.
I think it's over that way.
And so back when
the health care,
and again,
conditions then
are what got us into trouble
that we're now having
to reconcile
and pay the piper
in current dollars
as well as future commitments.
But back in budget year 17,
18,
when everything in the jail
was still under the purview
of a line item
within the sheriff's budget,
it was 48 million
total cost to the county,
33 million net county cost,
and 118 FTEs.
This year's budget
is 130 million total cost,
81 million net county cost,
and 268 FTEs.
So just that one aspect alone,
you're looking at,
I don't even know what that is,
it's a 250% increase
in total cost,
150% increase
in net county cost,
and over 100% increased,
and these don't even include
the positions
that you're bringing up
in your AGR
for the deputies.
So it's just,
it's an incredible burden
upon what is limited resources.
And so,
as I said,
I think there's sausage
that's going to be made later on,
but I just wanted to thank you.
Oh, and then the one thing
that I did want to mention as well,
and this is,
I've said this to you privately,
I've said it publicly
to every meeting I'm in
down in the Delta,
but the difference
in the availability
and response
and just care
that you have shown
those communities
that are so isolated
from the rest of the county.
I've seen it,
I've witnessed it,
and I've also witnessed
the work that
the Marine Enforcement Detail
has been doing,
and when we were talking
about abandoned vessels
and the ecological impact,
most people think of like
boats that have run aground
and just get left behind.
If the public knew
how many cars
are in that river right now,
I said how many cars
are in that river right now?
Hilarious.
It's awesome.
And this is the tragic part
that I maybe shouldn't
even say out loud,
but I will.
The number of those cars
that still have bodies in them.
It's tragic.
Because some of them
went into the river
and nobody knew.
Their loved one
just didn't come home
that night.
So again,
I want to thank you.
If we don't get around
whatever the comments
that get made later,
I want to thank you
for the work that you're doing
to take these quality of life
issues seriously
because people pay their taxes
and providing for the
general defense,
I think,
is the number one
obligation of government.
And so a lot of that
comes down to one of those.
Thank you.
Thank you, Chair.
And don't disagree with anything
that Supervisor Hume just said.
But I'm going to push back
just a little bit, Sheriff,
on the adult correctional health issue
in that, you know,
you said something
that I'm going to paraphrase,
so I apologize,
something to the tune of,
you know,
that's a county issue.
That's not my issue.
And frankly,
with the May's consent decree,
if we don't improve,
because one thing that you,
one of the main things,
but one thing that you
and I will agree on
is that ACH hasn't worked.
We've had a lot of problems
over the years,
and I agree with that.
If we don't fix ACH,
you talk about,
you know,
all five of us up here
and you agree on one thing for sure,
and we don't want receivership.
If we don't address significantly ACH
and put significant resources behind it,
it's not an us issue or a you issue.
It's an us issue.
I mean, you know,
so, you know,
I don't separate adult corrective health
away from your functions,
even though they're in different departments.
Does that make sense?
No, it does.
Yeah.
So, and with that,
you have better things to do
than watch the end of our meetings,
but yesterday I did bring up
and ask for,
and pardon my colleagues for repeating,
I did ask for,
because since you and I met
and you shared your concerns about ACH,
which are fair,
I met with a number of staff
and departments to talk about,
okay, this thing's been broken.
What are we doing?
Are we doing anything?
And the answers that I found were,
yes, we're doing quite a bit.
Have we seen the results yet
of most of the efforts we've been doing?
No, granted.
And that's why in August,
we're going to have a hearing
and a workshop to really go over,
these are the issues we've identified with ACH,
these are what the remedial measures
we're putting into place,
and this is how we're going to make it better
and how we are making it better,
including, I believe,
as the undersheriff alluded to yesterday,
some of the things that you guys are doing
that can also address things
like how much time it takes
to get through booking and all of that.
So that is more to come,
but I just want to make the point
that we're all in this ACH thing together
because if we don't fix it,
it's not only is it impactful on our community,
but it's impactful on your department
just as much as anybody else.
No, and you're right.
So to help with booking times,
that was an ACH issue.
We got involved and helped bring it down.
The problem is you have CHP
and every police department in Sacramento County
that wrote a letter,
and I know Folsom P. was here
and talked about the issue about the wait time.
So it's real because Folsom's not real big,
and Elk Grove,
and you get a couple officers down here
waiting for four or five hours,
those are folks off the street,
so it's an issue,
and my fear of supervisor is
it's been almost two years
since I spoke out on this issue,
and the needles move some but not a lot,
and there's not a sense of urgency everywhere,
and really this is like,
I've been to that jail 100 times
to see it myself,
to see what's going on
and what my people are doing or not doing,
and then also ACH.
So the part that I can fix, I do,
but that's a 20% part
versus an 80% part that I have no control over,
and I say this.
We have a great relationship.
I respect each and every one of you.
I've worked great with you
the last two and a half years.
I want to make it work,
but just seeing it firsthand,
you guys have so much going on.
You're very busy.
I get that,
but I see it,
and there has to be changes,
and how can we do that
in a quick manner and not wait?
I keep going back to telehealth,
and oh, we do it,
but no.
Look at numbers.
It's not done that way.
It's really impacting us,
and cost savings.
I don't want to spend that money on overtime.
Let it go back to the county.
That's salary savings.
I can't do that,
so that's born out of frustration
more than anything.
Let me say, too,
on the telehealth issue specifically,
it's not as though the county and D.C.
were opposed to telehealth.
We fully embrace it
and think it's just as important as you do,
but, and you're not going to disagree with me on this,
there is a space limitation
that makes it very difficult to do it,
which is another issue we need to address.
But there are ways to do it.
I mean, they built booths.
There's ways to do that.
It's just someone thinking out of the box,
and I keep going back.
Why is it siloed with two people?
One decision maker would make it so much easier,
and like I said,
if this is our Achilles Hill,
that person should report directly to the board.
In my opinion,
I'm not sitting up there where you are,
but to get the information you want,
and I keep saying that again and again and again,
one person that's accountable
regarding all this stuff,
I think will make a huge difference.
Okay.
So the other issue I want to bring up is the CCWs,
as you and I talked about earlier today.
You know, in order for us to make that change,
it couldn't be done today.
It would obviously have to come before another agenda,
and we'd have to have a full discussion
and agendize it and all that
before we could up the fees.
Would you be willing to freeze CCWs
until we do that if we were to say
that we're going to do it in an expedited fashion?
To freeze them?
Yeah.
Issuing?
I can't, by law.
You can't?
Yeah.
That always seems to get in my way.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you.
Supervisor Rodriguez.
I'll state my comments about the support
for restoring these cuts later,
but I just want to say that
your leadership gives many of our communities
the feel of security for what you have done
and the crimes that you have tackled
with fentanyl, with human trafficking,
child abuse, all of the things that you have done.
I just want to say that,
Sheriff Cooper, you're an exceptional leader.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you.
I'll just close this out.
You know, just so for the benefit
of those watching or joining us here today,
I don't want you to leave in thinking
that I wake up every morning
and want it to seem confrontational
with a sheriff that I support,
a sheriff that I consider a partner.
But what I do disagree with
and why I have my earlier statements
and why I've interjected as I have on process is, again,
I think it's really, really important
from the standpoint of understanding
who is doing what in the budget process
that the public understand.
there's one person, one person only,
despite what's on a slide in a PowerPoint,
to the contrary,
who is making the recommendations,
the recommendations for the cuts
to the county executive,
and that is the sheriff.
It is the sheriff's responsibility.
It's actually in law,
as one of my colleagues has pointed out.
So, again, I don't, I don't, again,
I don't want to cut anything.
Are you kidding me?
I don't want to have to make those difficult decisions.
I would much rather consider,
at best, a status quo budget
and, you know, preferably a budget
that actually sees revenue growth
so that we can actually enhance programming,
including the critically important services
that the sheriff provides.
But I will never be convinced
that David Villanueva said cut hot and pop.
He did not.
That was a recommendation, plain and simple,
from the sheriff's department, okay?
So please understand that.
I get it.
There's a lot of support behind the sheriff
for law enforcement,
and I'm a fan of law enforcement, too.
I get it.
It's important.
But I just think it's, again,
necessary for the public
to at least hear my sentiments,
my perspective on the fact
that this was not a recommended list
of cuts that came
from the CEO's office.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
Next, we will hear from
the district attorney.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I was going to say good morning,
but it's the afternoon now,
so good afternoon.
Hopefully, no one wishes us good evening.
I hope not either.
First of all, thank you for providing me
the opportunity to address the board,
and thank you for people from the public
and from our community here
to support public safety.
Every day, the people of my office
protect the public
and keep our streets safe
for all communities.
We are doing more with less.
Since March of 2020,
we have lost 71 attorneys.
That's a 38% reduction
in attorney staff.
The work that we do
is draining,
it's relentless,
and it's hard.
But there are several reasons
behind why we have
the staffing issues that we do.
One is the pandemic.
It upended many professions.
Two,
the negative sentiment
towards law enforcement
flowed from the protests in 2020,
creating a very difficult process
for us to recruit
and retain attorneys
and members of law enforcement.
But that tide
and that sentiment is changing.
And three,
the strike.
Truth be told,
at two years of impasse,
unfair labor practices
pushed many people in my office
and the public defender's office away.
And since the strike,
we've lost 12 attorneys.
Recently,
we've lost three veteran prosecutors
with nearly 50 years of experience.
And yet,
we are doing more with less.
Last year,
my office on the right-hand side
received over 34,000 police reports
to review for filing.
Other than the sheriff's department,
my department is the only one
that receives these reports
and are responsible for filing them.
Not just from the city jurisdictions,
but from every corner of the county.
Of those 34,000 cases,
we filed 14,000-plus misdemeanors
and 7,000 felonies.
Our caseloads are increasing.
We are doing more with less.
We don't get to overload our case,
hand them off,
or conflict to another set of attorneys.
That responsibility stays with us.
Our SOCA unit,
which is the unit
that prosecutes child molesters
and child abuse cases,
the worst of the worst.
Their caseloads are increasing.
In 2015,
we had 264 cases submitted
for filing,
for review.
In the nine years since then,
it's increased by almost 100%
to 521 cases
that we must review.
That is reflected in the fact
that the caseloads
for the SOCA attorneys
have now grown to,
on average,
35 cases per attorney.
When I was prosecuting those cases
20 years ago,
we were in the low teens.
It has almost tripled now.
And not only
has the caseloads
increased in SOCA,
but they've also increased
in domestic violence.
Domestic violence,
on average,
each attorney has 50 to 70 trials.
And that has a direct reflection
on violence.
In 2024,
we had six
domestic violence-related homicides.
This year,
with another six months to go,
we already have
nine DV homicides.
And we are down.
We are down positions
in homicide,
in major crimes,
to prosecute
three strike cases.
We are down positions
in gangs.
When I was the supervisor
of the gang
and the hate crime team,
we had six full-time attorneys.
We are down to two.
In addition to that,
mental health diversion
is a completely
different animal.
Mental health diversion,
and I'll lay it out for you
the way it works,
it applies to every single case,
except for murder,
rape,
and child molestation.
And I want people
to get the treatment
they deserve,
that they deserve,
and does not jeopardize
public safety.
But the way that law works
is this.
If you commit
an attempted murder,
a child abuse,
a carjacking,
a robbery,
a drive-by shooting,
all you have to do
is bring a doctor's note
that says you have anxiety,
ADHD,
and the judge must presume
that you committed
that crime
because of that condition.
And the only way
for the judge
and for me to prevent you
from getting mental health
diversion
is if you go ahead
and I can show
that in the future
you're going to commit
a murder,
a rape,
a child molestation,
a super strike.
And what have we seen
as a result of that?
That is being used
as a sword
and not a shield
by the Public Defender's Office.
In 2022,
we filed 117 cases
in opposition.
In 2023,
that jumped to 400
and now we have 977.
We have gone
from staffing
nine courtrooms
to 26 calendars
to now staffing
14 courtrooms
and 76 calendars
a month.
That is a huge shift
in staffing.
Recently,
we had an individual
that committed
two separate robberies,
pepper spraying,
essentially,
store employees.
We charged them
with robbery.
What happened was
they got mental health
diversion.
They were released
from custody
and then committed
a stabbing
over in Fair Oaks
and Sunrise.
And so this is
a serious public
safety issue.
But beyond the impact
that it has
in the courtroom,
it has had an impact
in terms of increasing
our caseload
because it delays,
it ages the cases.
To the point right now
in our office,
we have 11,000
pending active felony cases,
18,000 misdemeanors,
and 250 cases
in our post-conviction unit.
We are doing more
with less.
Now,
in addition to that,
and the heavy caseload
that we are having,
we have less resources.
We have less process service
now than we did
in 2013.
And there is
a structural defect.
For example,
the prosecutor
to investigator
ratio
for Riverside County
and for Orange County
comparable to our office
is two attorneys
to one investigator.
But at the Sacramento
DA's office,
we have four attorneys
to one investigator.
And when you take
a look of 20
of the major counties
in California,
we are at the bottom
of the list.
It is a structural defect.
And speaking of structural defects
and the impact
that it has on caseload
and public safety,
two years ago,
the county CEO
recommended the greatest
single increase ever
to one of the stakeholders
in our criminal justice system.
The public defender's office
received 16 attorney positions,
while my office
was only office three.
I had to come before this board
and ask for additional positions.
And I appreciate
and I'm immensely grateful
that this board
gave us two additional positions.
And what have we done
with that?
What have we done
with the limited resources
that we were given?
We led groundbreaking efforts
to confront
the fentanyl crisis.
To the bottom right,
you see 426.
That's 426 fentanyl overdose deaths
in 2023.
That's more than all
the gun-related homicides
in the county in 10 years.
Through our efforts,
we were able to reduce that
in 2024 to 272.
And then currently this year,
it's dropped to 41.
Now, how did we get that done?
We got that done
because of some of the resources
that you provided to us.
Our One Pill Can Kill campaign,
but in addition,
we started the SAC Force strike team.
And what that team does is this,
is when there is a call
to an overdose,
we send that team out,
they do the investigation,
and through that,
we were able to go after
and charge 24 high-level
fentanyl drug dealers.
We were also,
for the first time,
because we did not do that previously,
prosecuted 12 fentanyl-related homicides,
including one that is a double murder
with a death in Folsom
and one in Outro.
And last week,
we were able to obtain,
for the first time,
a homicide conviction.
And that is reflective
in a 63% reduction in deaths.
Before I came into office
and was elected,
my predecessor had disbanded
the major narcotic unit.
Since then,
I have reconstituted,
added two attorneys,
an investigator,
and on top of that,
an individual that does wiretaps.
I've had to pull from other areas,
but what have we done with that?
Along with the Sheriff's Department
and Task Force,
last week at a press conference,
we announced
that collectively together,
we seized
over 200,000 fentanyl pills
and over 100 pounds of fentanyl,
enough to kill 26 million people
or the population of Taiwan
with a street value of 6 million.
We were able to do that
with the limited resources
that this board gave us.
But we are hurting.
We are doing more with less.
So, in addition,
Proposition 36,
the voters and the people
here in the audience
and the community
voted by 70%.
And so what are we doing
in regards to Proposition 36?
We are implementing it
very aggressively.
We are top five
in the state of California,
my office,
in charging Proposition 36
theft-related cases.
And it's had an effect.
It's reduced retail theft
in the county
with the limited resources
that I have.
But it's just not about retail theft
because we are also
been working
with our community prosecutors
for treatment
because there is
a treatment component
to Proposition 36
in regards to getting
the help that people need.
But just as we are doing more,
we are facing cuts.
And we have taken
bold legal steps.
Bold legal steps.
For example,
what we are doing
is we are essentially
redefining
what a traditional
prosecutor's office does.
We have redefined it
to what a modern DA's office
should be doing.
Things like balancing
smart justice and compassion.
And recently,
my office started
the Workers' Protection Unit.
And present in the courtroom
are the heads of every single
building trades
and the carpenters.
And why are they here?
Because for the first time
in Sacramento County's history,
we filed a criminal
felony charge
of wage theft.
Now, how do we go
about doing that?
I basically took
an attorney
that is right now
supervising
two other units
and I cobbled together
to create this unit
because I wasn't given
the resources for it,
but I need the resources
on it
because we are doing
more with less.
And for so long,
workers' rights
went unheard,
but not anymore.
And so that is what
we are trying to do here
by doing more with less.
But just as we're doing that,
we are facing cuts.
And what else are we doing?
First of all,
indigenous women
have homicide rates
ten times that
of the national average.
Nearly 60%
of Native people
will be victims
of violence
in their lifetime.
Their voices
have not been heard
until now.
Recently,
for the first time ever,
Sheriff Jim Cooper
and the Wilton Ranchery
along with my office
signed an MOU
creating a task force
to look at cold cases
regarding missing,
murdered,
and indigenous people.
And that is exactly
what we are doing,
being innovative.
But I did not get
any further resources
to do this.
We cobbled together
the resources
that we have
and just as we're doing so
to help black
and brown communities,
we are facing cuts.
And on the homeless front,
let's talk about that
for a moment,
and the unhoused crisis.
While others hesitated,
we led,
filing the first ever
lawsuit against
the city of Sacramento
to clear dangerous
encampments
and reclaim our spaces.
And has that made a difference?
I can tell you that it has.
Over here on C Street,
what we saw to the left
and what we've seen
to the right.
Over here on Zone,
on W,
what we see
in regards to
the encampments
in front of people's home
and what happened afterwards.
And over here on R Street,
one of the largest
encampments of the city,
through the efforts
of the lawsuit
and working with
our other partners,
we have cleared that.
And what I will tell you
is this,
and what I would
respectfully say is this,
we are always being asked
to do more with less.
The Homeless Corps Center
over on 14th and X Street
has created a number
of public safety issues
with the community.
The unhoused encampments
under the WX freeway
that is being run
by Caltrans
has historically created
public safety issues
for the community.
And the community members,
the business leaders,
and even some elected officials
have approached me personally
and asked me to step in
and help.
And I've never once said no.
We have always stepped forward
to help,
but the day may come
very soon
when I would not have
the resources
to answer the call for help.
And I know that the county
has made great efforts
and strides in terms
of setting up additional
shelters coming up
around in the county.
And when that happens,
there is going to be
public safety issues
that need to be addressed
by the Homeless Outreach Team,
by the Sheriff's Department,
and by the DA's
community prosecutors.
But yet,
we are facing cuts.
With the staffing shortages
that were coming,
we were very strategic
at the start
of this budget season.
Like other departments,
we submitted growth requests.
I never once asked for
or recommended cuts.
And I'm going to say
that again later.
I have never once asked for
or recommended cuts.
At the start of the budget season,
we recommended growths,
and we were very strategic
in doing so.
Our growth requests
prioritize urgent needs
of support staff,
paralegals, investigators,
process servers.
I didn't ask for a large
contingent of attorneys
even though we needed it.
And now,
just as we are facing
or making a difference
in the community,
we are facing budget cuts
of $1.7 million.
And what have we done
with the resources?
We've actually here
dropped the unhoused population.
We are doing more,
but we need more.
And let me talk about
the budget cuts for a moment.
But before I do so,
I need to explain
the structure of the DA's office.
The structure of the DA's office
is like this.
It's a primary residence.
At the bottom,
we see misdemeanors.
Those misdemeanor cases
are being prosecuted
by the new attorneys
that just graduated
from law school.
They make up
the largest segment
of cases that we have.
Once those attorneys
get enough experience,
they move up
to our general felony teams
that prosecute
burglaries, robberies.
And then from there,
we have our special teams,
our specialized teams
that are like separate rooms
in the house,
domestic violence,
elder abuse,
major crimes,
sex assault,
gangs,
adult sex and homicides.
And the way it works is
when we have shortages,
okay,
in, for example,
people leave
the special teams.
They leave
those separate rooms.
I need to replenish
those units.
And so I pull
from the general felonies
to replace attorneys
in domestic violence
who then go to
major crimes or SOCA
and then they move up
that way.
But if I get cut
from below,
where are the reinforcements
going to come from?
And so,
the budget cut
of $1.7 billion,
it is the recommendation
of the CEO's office.
That is the recommendation
of the CEO's office
to cut the district
attorney's budget
by $1.7 million.
And I'm going to provide
some history here.
Several months ago,
the CEO's office
came and reached out
to my office and says,
what is it going to look like
if we cut your budget
by $6 or $7 million?
Because costs have gone up
$6 to $7 million.
And so,
well,
what is it going to look like?
What would that be reflective?
Now,
I did not want
to describe
what that would be
because I was afraid
that if I gave
that description,
it would be flipped
and turned around
and said,
those are my recommendations.
And I used the word
recommendation
in a moment
in a very key way.
And I described
the drastic consequence
of $7 million in cuts.
So the CEO's office
came back
about maybe six weeks ago
and says
that it looks like
it's going to be
$1.7 million.
What would be,
what would happen
if that was the case?
Provide a list
of what those cuts
would look like
and prioritize them.
I didn't want
to give that list
because I had a fear
that at some point
in time
that that would be
used against me
and says,
well,
that's what the DA
recommended.
That's what the DA gave.
The word recommendation
means that I approve of it,
that I consent to it.
And I'm going to say
right now,
I've never consented
to approve
or recommended
any of these cuts.
But what I am saying
is this,
is that if the cuts happen,
80% of my budget
is earmarked
for salary and benefits.
I can't cut
enough photocopies
to meet $1.7 million.
The reality of it
is when that happens,
it goes into
the vacant spots.
And in fact,
the CEO's office
has talked about
seven vacant spots,
attorney level four.
That's the lowest.
And you might be
asking yourself
or people of the public
here,
like,
what's the problem
with vacant positions?
What's the problem
with these unfilled positions
in terms of cutting them?
Well,
here's the deal.
If the idea
is to cut
seven vacant positions
because that equals
$1.7 million,
I currently have
11 vacant positions
in my office.
I have three people
right now in background,
lateral attorneys
from other offices.
They will be employees
in about a month.
That means
that I only have
eight vacant spots.
If you cut
seven vacant spots,
I will only have
one vacant spot left.
And the number seven
to the left,
those are annuitants,
retired annuitants
that are currently
working in the office,
filling in the gaps.
And those annuitants
actually save
the county money
because we don't have
to pay for their benefits
and their pensions.
And the other number 12,
those are the incoming group
of new attorneys
that just graduated
from law school.
They are the reinforcement
that are coming
into the misdemeanor unit
so that I can then,
they're coming
into the misdemeanor unit
to prosecute
misdemeanor cases
so that I can then
send the reinforcements
up to the general felony teams
and then up to the special teams
in those separate rooms
because we are hanging together
by duct tape
and super glue.
And the fact of the matter
is this.
If the $1.7 million
is cut from the DA's budget,
where do I cut from?
And I will tell you this,
that when the CEO's office
reached out to my office
and says,
we're going to cut you
by $1.7 million.
That's the recommendation.
You need a cut
from community prosecution.
That was a directive
from the CEO's office.
So I want to be clear on that.
That was their directive
and I pushed back
and I said,
we pushed back
and we said no.
But the problem
that we're facing is this.
If we cut by $1.7 million,
I won't have the vacancies
to fill the misdemeanor cases.
I won't have the attorneys.
I won't have the resources
to prosecute misdemeanor petty theft,
misdemeanor drug offenses,
auto-burgs, vandalism.
So where else can I cut from?
And remember,
I'm not recommending cuts
or wanting to cut.
But the only other places
outside of what I call
the primary residence,
the core function
of the DA's office,
these other places.
And where is that?
Frankly,
that is going to be
community prosecution.
There are very few
other places I can cut from.
And those community prosecutors
work with business owners,
P-bids,
chambers,
and CBOs.
They work with elected officials.
They work with the community
to preemptively
and proactively
deal with public safety issues.
And I'm going to have
three of them up here
and they've signed up to speak
and they're going to talk
about what they do
and the impact of these cuts.
I don't want to cut from them.
And what I hear is,
and I've heard this,
is,
well,
this is the DA's choice.
This is the DA's choice
to cut this.
Well,
that's like,
for example,
somebody punching me
and I have to put my hands up
and defend myself
and I'm getting blamed for that.
That's like leaving your child
at the park
and then you have to walk,
that child has to walk home
and says,
well,
you chose to walk home.
Where am I going to cut from?
I can't cut
and I will not cut
from homicides
or gangs
or sex crimes
or domestic violence.
I'm not going to cut
from those areas.
So there's no other places
to cut from
than in those other areas
and I don't want to do them
and I'm not recommending
to do so.
So,
we are doing more
and frankly,
we need more.
We need more
because I've asked
for support staff
in terms of paralegals
and process servers
and investigators.
I've asked more
and finally,
I'm asking for a shuttle.
A shuttle
to help our victims
and our witness
access a new courthouse
that is a third
of a mile away
and some might think,
well,
a third of a mile away
isn't very far
unless you're a child
or an elderly victim
or somebody carrying
legal boxes
in the summer heat
and the winter rain.
Now,
innovation alone
is not enough
to deliver justice effectively.
We need people
to power progress
and that's where
we're struggling.
We planted trees.
We planted the MMIP tree.
We planted
the workers' protection tree.
We planted
the Proposition 36 tree.
We planted
the homeless prevention tree.
And the community
wants us to nurture
those trees
so that it can provide
the community shade.
But now,
with the recommended
1.7 cuts
by the CEO's office,
what that does
and what that says
is that,
you know what,
go ahead and keep
those trees
but we're not going
to provide you
with the water,
the nutrients
and the people
to care for it.
Now is not the time
to retreat.
And I will say this,
I've had my public
and private disagreements
with the CEO
but I will say
that he has
a very difficult job.
A very difficult job
in trying to handle
and balance
all of the competing factors
and I don't envy him
for it at all.
In fact,
I respect him
for the difficult job
that he has.
And I say this
to all the people
that are here
in the public.
Here to support
and there's a lot
of people on that list
here to support
public safety.
And I'll say this
to them.
I have personally
spoken to
and worked
with the chair.
He cares deeply
about drug interdiction
especially when it comes
to methamphetamine
and he cares deeply
about working
with the community
in the north area
and underserved communities
and I know
that he cares
about public safety.
And I've worked
and spoken
with Supervisor Kennedy
who has been
at the forefront
of making sure
that when we open
a shelter space
that the area
around there
is protected.
I've spoken to him
on workers protection
who he cares deeply
about and he cares
about public safety
every step of the way.
And I've worked
with Supervisor Desmond
as a former
law enforcement officer
I know he cares
deeply about public safety
and the homeless
outreach team
along with the
community prosecutors
in his
unincorporated area
have made a huge
difference thanks to him.
And I've worked
with Supervisor Pat Hume
whether it's the
MMIP project
or whether it's
his ability
to cut through the noise
and find a solution
he is a champion
of public safety.
And I've also worked
and I say this
to everybody here
with Supervisor Rosario
who cares passionately
about the unhoused crisis
and finding solutions
and a champion
of public safety.
And finally
I'm not here
to ask for excess.
I'm here to ask
for enough.
Enough
to hold offenders
accountable.
Enough to support
the dedicated public
servants who stay
and fight.
Enough to show
this community
that Sacramento County
would not waver
in its commitment
to safety,
fairness,
and the rule of law.
Enough to help me
keep my promise
to keep us safe.
Thank you.
Thank you Mr. DA.
Again I'm going to ask
one more time
and one more time only.
Silence your phones
or turn them off.
Or go outside
and you can have access
to your phones
with sound.
But please
for the respect
of everyone here
especially our speakers
silence your phones.
Supervisor Desmond.
Thank you Mr. Chair
and thank you
for that message.
Thank you DA.
I appreciate
the presentation
and I don't know
if we're going to hear
from the community
prosecutors
during public comment.
I'm assuming
that's not part
of the presentation.
That'll be separate.
Okay.
Public comments.
So first
just as a precursor
to my other comments
you know
there's a common theme
here we're hearing
from you
and the sheriff
and I certainly
appreciate your commitment
to Sacramento County.
I think you
and our sheriff
have made
a dramatic difference
in public safety
in this county
but clearly
there's a lot more
work to do
and I wonder
you know
we're talking about
kind of the ratios
and we heard
the sheriff talk about it
in terms of the number
of deputies on patrol
per 10,000 residents
and then the DA's office
would ratio
with the number
of prosecutors
per investigators
and sometimes
I wonder to myself
are we coming
from a place
really of
you know
we're already
well below
what the standard
is for similarly
sized counties
so I think
as a you know
prospectively
David I'm looking
at you
I'd like to have
that discussion
just looking
at our public
safety resources
how do we stack
up against
similarly situated
counties
you and I
have had
DA Tinhoe
you and I
have had
a lot of
conversations
about these
vacant positions
and okay
explain to me
how the
cutting the
vacant positions
is going
to address
the current
service delivery
and I think
I appreciate
you addressing
that I think
in no uncertain
terms and very
emphatically
in this presentation
today and
I understand
it and I
do appreciate
the comments
you made
and I plan
to bring this
up later
is maybe
it's counterintuitive
to some folks
but this board
we are making
an awful lot
of investments
in social services
investments
that I'm
extremely proud
of and I know
we're all very
proud of
whether that's
increased safe
state communities
off Florin Road
and District 2
or the Watt Avenue
safe state community
but maybe
counterintuitively
in order I think
to maximize
the success
of these
we need to make
sure we have
the appropriate
law enforcement
resource to deal
with issues
that are going
to come up
in these areas
whether that's
a core center
a safe state
community
whatever it is
I think we have
seen from experience
that we need
to make sure
that we address
even minor level
law enforcement issues
so they don't
become bigger issues
not only
for the folks
the vulnerable folks
who take advantage
of these locations
but also for the
surrounding businesses
and communities
so that point
you bring
really resonates
with me
and then
one other question
I had
in terms of
Prop 36
I was also going
to mention this
later too
Prop 36
is something new
it's something new
and it came with
I think a very strong
public expectation
and then there's
been a lot
of discussions
about the lack
of funding
for Prop 36
treatment resources
coming out
of this administration
over here
is this the direction
Supervisor Hume
the lack of resources
and where supervisors
throughout the state
coming together
to say
maybe they oppose
Prop 36
but we are all aligned
in advocating
for those resources
because that is
essentially a mandate
Prop 36
is a mandate
that we need
to make sure
we have the treatment
resources available
for people
who end up
or are eligible
for it
and meet the criteria
end up being caught up
in the criminal justice system
but the other obligation
that came along
with Prop 36
is at the front end
and the front end
is the enforcement
and that's where
the hot team
that's where
the community prosecutors
and your office
obviously where we need
to make those investments
to carry out
that front end promise
of Prop 36
and I ask you
in your discussions
maybe at the state level
and with our state legislature
those front end investments
that's not part of the discussion
with the legislature
is that correct?
That is correct
there is no discussion
at the legislature
of funding enforcement
and you're not going to have
people to get the treatment
they need
or to hold people accountable
without smart
compassionate enforcement
so there's no funding
coming from the state
on that
all it is
is on the treatment side
but you're never going
to get to the treatment side
unless you have
the enforcement
to begin with
I think that's
a very compelling point
in this whole discussion
the last thing
I'd ask you
is
the positions
that are recommended
the 1.8 million
in cuts
have you looked
at other
opportunities
other potential
funding sources
maybe to
to fund
any of these positions
that are proposed
I mean
what kind of
innovative ideas
that you might have
because you
you do understand
we're in a very difficult
time
you understand
we have to address
the structural imbalance
that we're facing
so I'm curious
if there's anything
that maybe you haven't
considered
that
can I have a moment
please
you know we've been
thinking about that
and really trying to
explore those options
there is an option
I'm not fond of it
and the reason
why I'm not fond of it
is because
it's going to require
us to take
people off of our
mainline operation
here
and put them
somewhere else
but we have
what we call
a stop unit
which is the
prison crimes unit
they prosecute
the crimes out
in Folsom
and what they do
is when they
handle those cases
those prosecutors
they bill the state
of California
on an hourly basis
and when they bill
the state of California
that does not come
out of the general fund
here in the county
it's completely
coming from the state
and what I would
be willing to do
and it's going
to put a burden
on already difficult
staffing issue
but I will
give my word
and guarantee
that for the next year
I will make sure
that I will reallocate
staffing to that
prison unit
to save the county
an actual saving
that I can guarantee
of at least half
a million dollars
I would do that
as a sign of good faith
to try to
close the gap
but
it's going to create
other issues for me
and so if I do that
I can't take
these staffing issues
having my
budget cuts
removed
I'm not very good
with this here
but
the vacant spots
that we're talking
about because
that's going to
have an impact
and so
we could do that
we could do that
for this next year
and I would commit
to moving staff
over there
so that
it would actually
be a saving
of half a million
dollars to the county
I'm sorry
I apologize
but just
while you're on that
because I didn't
quite understand
the answer
so right now
we have a program
in which the DA
prosecutes crimes
in say
Folsom prison
yes
I'm surprised
that it's not
the attorney general
that does that
but that's a state issue
and then
we bill the state
for those services
for that particular
service
yes
where does the
cost savings
come from
because here's
what I would do
and I'll
use this over here
so I can explain that
so
these are the
core functions
of the office
over here
and so
the county
pays
from the general fund
or where have you
for attorney salaries
so what I would do
is I would take
resources
staff
attorney
that is currently
being paid
by the county
by the general fund
and I will
reallocate those
attorneys
and reassign
that staff
those attorneys
to the prison crime unit
so that the money
that would have
normally been taken out
by the county general fund
would now be
taken out
from the state's fund
so what that does
is I will
guarantee
that by moving
that staff
and having them work
in this unit
and billing per hour
they billed to the state
because those are state
that's a state facility
and there's an agreement
and an MOU
to prosecute those cases
in my office
but that sounds like
it might save the county
money by
yes
but it also
but that just increases
your
lack of resources
that you're
concerned about
well
going back to
and hopefully I can get
this right here
if I go back
one slide here
so
going back
to the slide
of vacancies
if the county
does not cut
my vacant positions
try this one more time
if the county
does not cut
my vacant positions
then what happens is
I have
12
newer
attorneys
I don't want to say
the word younger
I want to say
newer attorneys
that are coming in
I appreciate that
newer attorneys
that are coming in
those attorneys
if I am not being cut
by the vacant spots
I can hire them
so that they can
provide reinforcement
and if I don't get cut
I can make this work
but if I get cut
my vacant spots
I won't be able
to hire those attorneys
to provide the reinforcements
to the general felony teams
to the special teams
so that I can do this
because here's the deal
I have people in the community
hitting me up all the time
Citrus Heights
wants a community prosecutor
North Sacramento
wants one
everybody wants additional services
but if I
and I want to say yes
but the problem is
if I get slashed
in terms of my vacant spots
and I can't fulfill my staffing
I have to take those staffs
and move them somewhere else
because I cannot go understaffed
in my core operations
of gangs
you know murders
sex crimes
so by doing this
and I'll commit to one year
to be able to allocate it
to save the county
half a million dollars
thank you supervisor Desmond
thank you
supervisor
thank you
I think
I mean the idea
is something that
obviously
later on
the day today
if that's a direction
we wanted to go
obviously we'd have to have
that discussion
about the implications
with Amanda
so
all right
thank you
thank you Tim
thank you
I would just add to that
before we hear from
supervisor Rodriguez
that certainly
we want county council
involved in that
conversation to make sure
that there's no
unforeseen problems
in terms of backfilling
because it sounds like
backfilling
so
I would just
add to that
maybe a legal
review
supervisor Rodriguez
thank you chair
I am going to save
my comments
about the support
of restoring
these cuts
for later
but
DA Ho
I just want to say
that
since I've been
elected
and you were elected
I have appreciated
your tenacity
your energy
and your execution
to fight crimes
we all want
vibrant communities
but there's a cost
to that
having those vibrant
communities
and I just want
to appreciate
the work that
you have done
to get us there
and to keep us there
that's it
thank you
supervisor
thank you chair
and so
just like I did
with the sheriff
you're a busy man
I don't know
if you'll stick around
for the sausage making
but I just wanted
to say that
I remain friends
with your predecessor
and I knew her predecessor
but I've never before
seen a DA
that has been
more committed
aggressive
and effective
in changing
the physical landscape
of the community
for the better
and I think
that the voters
again back
with Prop 36
have said
that they appreciate
the work that you're doing
because it is these
quality of life crimes
and more importantly
all the work
that the sheriff's office
does goes nowhere
if there is a prosecutor
that isn't going
to take those cases up
and in the aggregate
of taking up those cases
we get more effective solutions
and unfortunately
the way we are
right now
in our society
is oftentimes
without drug court
without care court
without some of these
diversion programs
to use the threat
of justice involvement
as a carrot
to lead towards
treatment services
we will never
catch up to ourselves
on some of the
societal ills
in my estimation
and so
I just wanted to say
that while you're here
I appreciate the work
that you're doing
I appreciate you coming up
with this solution
that sounds like
there's a little more
sussing out
that needs to be done
but at least that's
putting something
on the table
that we can figure out
if there's a way
to thread this needle
and make sure
that we support
public safety
so thank you
okay thank you
thank you Mr. DA
I appreciate
your presentation
and you pointing out
by supervisors
some of the things
that we have
some very common
interest in
I do want to say
though
that
you know
I sometimes wish
that we didn't have
to sit here
and make difficult
decisions
especially
when we have
limited resources
but we have
excessive need
and of course
I see
city council member
Roger Dickinson
is in the audience
and I expect
to hear from him
here shortly
but he was
in this seat
back during
the depth
of the recession
and he knows
better than anyone
in this room
the fact that
it's our job
we're elected
to make
great decisions
sometimes
that result
in enhanced service
and doing better
for our constituents
we all enter
elective office
with that intent
right
that's what
drives us
but the job
of being
an elected person
whether you're
a supervisor
or a district attorney
is that sometimes
you have to
also recognize
that you're going
to have difficult
decision making
to do
so when I hear
that
if I
and correct me
if I'm wrong
Mr. DA
that when you
were asked
by the
county CEO
to tell us
about how
and where
you would
need to cut
but you
for whatever
reason
said no
I'm not going
to do that
because of
the reasons
that you stated
I just
I can't help
but feel like
that's shirking
some part
of the responsibility
because it's not
it's distasteful
I get it
it's not what
you wake up
to do
but we are doing
it in front
of you
now
and you
expect us
to do that
and the law
expects us
to do that
so
I want to
correct something
on that
because you
said a moment
ago
and I think
maybe there
was a
misinterpretation
that I refused
to give a list
of what those
cuts would be
so let me
clarify
and as I
said before
exactly what
I said
and I'll say
it again
I didn't want
to do it
I didn't want
to give that
list
but I actually
did give
the list
so if anybody
here is
alluding
that I somehow
skirt my
responsibility
didn't give
a list
that is
wrong
because I did
do that
but what I'm
also saying
is that
this recommendation
of the cuts
is coming
from the CEO's
office
and I've also
been very clear
about what that
would be reflected
in
I disagree
wholeheartedly
because he doesn't
have the authority
to make the
recommendations
he just doesn't
it's not a fact
so we could
agree to disagree
but it's not
a fact
well we'll
disagree on that
respectfully
Mr. Chair
and thank you
everybody for being
here today
thank you
applause
okay I believe
we're going to
hear briefly
from the public
defender's office
yes if we could
thank you
thank you
and then we
will get to
public testimony
thank you
yes good afternoon
good afternoon
chair Cerna
members of the
board
Amanda Benson
chief public
defender
thank you for the
opportunity to be
heard regarding our
budget and the
difficult cuts that
we've had to
propose to meet our
target to prepare
this year's budget I
work closely with
staff to try to
find efficiencies
try to find areas
where we could cut
with minimizing
impact we were
asked we had a
target of 3.4
million dollars and
we immediately got
to work how could
we bridge that gap
the first thing we
did was we had
some additional
streaming source for
new work we had to
do with our
incompetent to stand
trial clients and
typically with new
funding we would ask
for new positions but
to meet the target we
are absorbing that
work with existing
staff and using that
new funding the
million dollars to
reduce net county
costs we also cut our
extra help budget by
$360,000 which is
seven legal research
assistant positions
that we really depend
on quite heavily for
our expungement unit and
other areas of the
office we also cut a
vacant administrative
services position and
then we had to cut our
CBO services one at
our juvenile facility for
our foster hope contract
for our juvenile youth
who are in the program
who have experienced
significant trauma we
had to put that on the
chopping block and then
as well as our Exodus
project and just quickly
I believe Supervisor
Hume had a question
about Exodus project
we've used them to pick
people up from the jail
who are being released
to transport them
provide emergency
housing help them get
clothing food supplies
that type of thing and
we're working with
correctional health for
them to take over that
service so that
correctional health can
work really closely with
them after hours to
provide that same service
to reduce the number of
people who are being
released onto the street
after hours so we also
proposed an additional
1.4 million cuts in our
pretrial services program
and at our juvenile
division that are
thankfully being
recommended to be
restored so the I want to
say that the 1 million
dollars that we proposed
that's not showing in the
budget documents as a cut
because we absorbed that
into our base budget so we
with the million dollars in
cuts that have been
recommended and the million
dollars that we absorbed
into our base budget we
have absorbed a reduction of
two million dollars to our
budget and we're doing the
best we can to minimize that
impact we are absorbing that
workload with our existing
staff so I feel there's a
maybe a narrative out there
that the public defender's
office is not suffering cuts
to meet that 3.4 million
dollars that would have been
12 attorneys if we had
immediately offered up 12
attorneys that would have
really impacted our core
services that would have
resulted in overloads that
would have resulted in
increased costs to the county so
we really tried to find other
ways that we could absorb those
costs without immediately going
to 12 attorneys and we were
able to do that through these
other ways that we found
reductions so lastly I do want
to respond to the DA's
comments and respectfully urge the
board I know there's a lot of
work we are all doing more work
with less money but I just want to
encourage or urge the board to
not restore that budget at the
expense of other public service
and social service agencies that
are really shouldering a lot of work
of these new laws we have mental
health diversion and prop 36 where
the legislature and the voters of
the state of California have made it
clear they want accountability and
they want treatment for a lot of
these offenders and the bulk of
providing that treatment is really
on the public defender conflict
criminal defender correctional health
behavioral health probation and the
sheriff and these laws in doing so
they give people accused of crimes a
right to treatment over trial and so
the number of trials has gone way
down in our county there's been a
drastic cut in jury trials both in
misdemeanors and felonies 54% cut in
jury trials now jury trials typically
are a very time and resource intensive
task for the DA's office because the
DA has to put on the proof they have to
put on the jury trial and it takes a lot
of time and effort and these new laws have
actually as they as people are choosing
treatment over trial it's putting more
burden on these other services agencies
and departments and it's in that way I
mean I I know the DA's office has new
demands that's not the issue but in terms
of jury trials the jury trials have gone
down over half and so but that so that
puts a pause on work that the DA's office
has to do but it does not pause the
burdens of these treatment plans and
mental diversion applications and and so I
think it's important for this board to
understand that these new laws have
impacted departments in different ways and
so I leave with just encouraging this
board to remember the departments that
are shouldering a lot of these burdens
and we all of course care about public
safety please don't take funding away from
the departments that are have these new
burdens we're all trying to implement
these new laws and maintain service
levels thank you thank you Amanda and
and just want to say before we hear from
supervisor Hume who's in the queue and I
just want to recognize the fact that you
have a very very unique mission as it
relates to county service because it's
one of the few just plainly and very
directly constitutionally protected
US constitutionally protected services
that we as a county must provide in
terms of public defense so that's an
important part of understanding the
complexities of dealing with budget cuts
and new laws that enhance the workload for
your attorneys and I think it would be I
would be remiss or we would be remiss if
we didn't remind everyone of the
constitutional importance of it so thank
you thank you supervisor Hume thank you
chair and that's actually a great segue is
that having made my comments to the
sheriff and to the DA I also want to
tell you what a great job I think that
you do and how difficult your decisions
are you know and to the chair's point
the visual or graphical representation of
justice is the blindfolded individual
holding the scales and so it is a balance
and you provide that balance and I you
know in conversing with the DA prior to
this I tried to kind of coach a little
bit to say don't present an unflattering
characterization of the public defender in
defense of what you feel you need because
I think that we do have to have both
sides of those coins and I know that
you've made some difficult decisions as
well and so I thank you for doing that
but I am requesting I would like to once
this is all settled get with you to talk
about mental health diversion and how
it's being applied and when and where and
then the last thing I'll say is is I
heard you and appreciate your comments
about the the zero sum game aspect of
this budget and and to be mindful of of
where we would pull from in order to
make whole and so thank you for for taking
time to provide your comments today.
Thank you.
Supervisor Desmond.
Thank you Mr. Chair and thank you
Amanda it's great to hear from you and
and to hear your perspective and thank
you for the work you do.
I for one would never propose that we
rob Peter to pay Paul or take from some
of the social services if we are going
to restore any kind of funding to the
either the DA or the sheriff.
I and I also my discussion about when
we were talking about ratios of service
with the sheriff and the DA I would
like to see that same evaluation of our
public defenders office of course I mean
across the board with all the county
services that we fund and we administer
so and then finally I think that you
know obviously this board has to be
cognizant of our obligation to make
sure people have their constitutional
rights protected and they have the
appropriate level of representation but I
think this I'm very proud of the work
that this board has done investing in
additional support services for you
and your staff and for folks who end
up justice involved to help them
transition when they reenter society
and I think this board will continue
with that commitment so thank you.
Thank you and we really appreciate
all that support as well thank you.
Thanks again Amanda.
Okay so I am going to look to my
colleagues into all of our staff
including department heads who have
been there and we appear for nearly
four hours and you out there.
Any interest in a bio break for ten
minutes?
I'm seeing nodding heads.
Okay.
So we will do that and then we will go
through the speakers list and the
clerk's office has been good enough to
keep that list so we know who signed
in first but we will start as a
courtesy with city council member
roger dickinson.
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We are in recess.
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Here. Cerner? Here. And you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Again, as a friendly reminder, please, if you will, keep your comments to two minutes or less. You don't have to use the full two minutes.
And of course, if you have a similar comment to a previous speaker, we're certainly eager to register your testimony as such.
And in the interest of saving time, I would ask you to respectfully consider possibly doing that so that, again, we can get through all the speakers here this afternoon that want to address the board.
We are going to start as a courtesy, and this is somewhat tradition in these chambers, that when we have local elected, other local elected officials here in the chambers, that we offer them the opportunity to speak first.
And so I know, again, my predecessor to the board, former county supervisor Roger Dickinson, and former assembly member Roger Dickinson, and now city council member for the city of Sacramento is here.
Welcome, Roger.
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and members. Thanks for the opportunity to make this pitch to you this afternoon. Since I know you've got financial challenges, I thought I'd just go for the sympathy vote.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
be allocated on the basis of using an MOU or some form of agreement with the district attorney's
office to assure that the funding would be used for a community prosecutor in North Sacramento.
So thank you for your consideration. With me today, and we'll just, we thought we'd go quickly
so you can expedite the hearing. Captain Neil Cybulski, who is the North Area Captain for us,
and then Kevin Dobson, who is the president of the Del Paso Heights PBID, and Candace Brooks, who is the executive director of the PBID.
I want to say that Andy Hernandez, who's president of the North Sacramento Chamber of Commerce, was here but unable to stay.
So we're here. We'll make a quick presentation with your blessing, Mr. Chair, and then if you have any questions, happy to respond.
Great. Thank you, Council Member Dickinson. And thanks for reaching out early and coordinating with my office on this subject. Welcome, Captain.
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and other board members. Again, Neil Cybulski, I'm a captain with Sacramento Police Department North Area.
Serve in Council Member Dickinson's council district. I'm here to talk about my support for a community prosecutor in North Sacramento.
As stated, a couple quick items is we know that they address, in partnership with law enforcement, city residents, and as well as business leaders,
address quality of life issues and really crime prevention, right?
So the community prosecutors often focus on quality of life offenses such as trespassing, vandalism, drug activity,
and which can contribute to the decline of the overall quality of life.
And we feel that this partnership will address the quality of life issues to raise those for the citizens of that area, North Sacramento,
as well as deter some of the crime in that area. So thank you for your time.
Thank you, Kevin.
Hi, County Supervisors. Thank you for listening to us today and hearing our input.
Kevin Dobson, Founder, Executive Director for Capital College Career Academy.
We're at charter high school in Del Paso Heights, so I also wear that hat as well as being the PBID board president.
We led the largest union construction project in North Sacramento's history since Light Rail came in in 1987.
So both those efforts and the efforts of the PBID have really taken some real positive steps forward.
And so just ask for the support for a county, an appointed person from the DA's office to support many of the things,
as the captain just noted, that have plagued Del Paso-Bulvar business corridor and has been a hindrance to the development
and just the vibrancy that is so desperately needed in that area.
Thank you.
Candace Brooks, Executive Director of the Del Paso-Bulvar partnership, as well as two businesses on the boulevard.
So the need for support to get this done is necessary because businesses will not survive if they keep having issues,
and we need people to address them directly. So I'm going to keep it simple like that. So thank you.
Very good. Thank you for keeping it simple.
And I will note that Mr. Lithogum's got a grin from ear to ear behind you, so that's a good sign.
And if I can add just one closing word, we've obviously represented the business community today,
but there are real basic fundamental quality of life issues throughout the areas I think most of you appreciate.
I'm convinced if we can intervene at the lowest levels of offenses,
then we can really start to see an impact on the more serious crimes rather than letting those build over time.
That's what makes a community prosecutor so significant, I think, in our case especially.
Thanks for your consideration and good luck.
Thank you, Councilmember.
All right. Next speaker, please.
Okay. Our next speaker is Damien.
And may I ask Chair to make a recommendation about the line?
So if we could, just to kind of help expedite things, let's do lineups of three.
So the next three speakers you see from the list, you can see where your name are.
If you can just kind of line up behind this young man up on the stairs there,
that will reduce the amount of time you need to crawl out of your seat
and then walk over to the podium.
That way we can save a few minutes off our time here this afternoon.
Good morning, Board of Supervisors.
My name is Damien Kingsnors-Denecke.
I'm a fifth-grade student residing in District 1 and attending Washington Elementary School.
I'm taking time off my school day to save Splash $75,000
so that more kids can experience the fun and teachings of Splash.
Though I may seem young for this and may not be worth to pay attention to,
my opinions are still valuable and I ask you to reconsider your decision.
If less kids learn about Splash, less kids of my age, younger and older,
will experience less Splash,
meaning that they will not learn about the vernal pools and our lands and what lives in them.
I've gone to Splash since I was four years old.
In the years that followed, I went back to Splash again several times and really enjoyed it.
Splash was the first place that I ever looked through a microscope
and it was one of my favorite places to go when I was younger.
In the main building, they collected trays of water from the vernal pools.
We could look through a magnifying glass and analyze the little bugs and creatures in the vernal pool water
and learn about our ecosystem.
They have a room filled with rescued wildlife,
which gives kids a chance to observe these animals up close and allows them to recover.
Exposing kids to Splash is important because it instills in us from a young age
an understanding of where we live
and the importance of protecting nature for generations to come.
Splash is an organization that I respect and others should too.
In conclusion, I believe that Splash should keep their funding
so that more children can experience the joy of knowing what creatures live in our vernal pools.
Great job, Damien.
So obviously Damien set the bar pretty high.
Hi, District 1.
Hi, Supervisor Cerna specifically.
So I just wanted to remind the supervisors of our mission statement,
which I got off of the website.
The Department of Human Assistance helps Sacramento County residents
who are in need become self-sufficient, independent,
by providing public benefits, employment assistance, and supportive services.
So I just wanted to set that reminder.
But two things.
One is, I was here a while back mentioning that there's 3,000 ballots weren't counted
in the last election and 1,300 provisional ballots that weren't counted.
And in the budget, $7 million were cut from the voter registration,
which was 80% of their budget.
So I literally don't know how we're going to improve the counting of the ballots
when 80% of it is gone.
The budget is gone.
But then I also wanted to talk about the medical equipment use report
that was presented to the Sheriff's Review Commission.
And it was lacking in six mandated through the government code,
which Supervisor Kennedy said we have to follow the law,
six things that are supposed to be in the report that aren't.
And one of them specifically is what complaints have been,
what complaints against the medical use, military use, military equipment use.
Were there any complaints and what were the resolutions?
And that's missing from the report.
And I talked to county council because the sheriff talked about county council.
Well, if we send it to county council and county council approves the report,
then we're following the law.
And so county council didn't get back to me.
So I just was there across the way earlier today and asked for an update.
But if we can't trust what they're putting in the reports,
then what report can we trust?
Because they're not following the law, at least in some of the reports.
So which reports are they also not following the law?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Jen Holden.
And then Kevin Higgins and Caroline Massagel.
Good afternoon.
My name is Jennifer Holden.
I am a resident in District 2.
Hello, Supervisor Kennedy.
I also grew up in the Arden Arcade area and Carmichael.
So hello, Supervisor Desmond.
I am a neighborhood association leader in South Sacramento.
And while I'm not here representing my association,
I am here to speak up on behalf of my neighborhood
and the benefits of the community prosecutors to my neighborhood.
We have a lot of quality of life issues.
We were reporting, reporting, reporting.
We were getting no traction until we were assigned a community prosecutor.
And while we still report, now we feel that reporting matters.
Before we were not.
The community prosecutors run the Citizens Academy,
which also help connect the community with area law enforcement agents.
And it promotes beneficial community.
So any cuts to the district attorney's office leaves me a little worried
and a little concerned for my neighborhood in South Sacramento.
When I listened to the discussions today,
I heard that there are $3 million going to Ansel Hoffman Park and FEI Nature Center.
But we're cutting law enforcement.
So if you want to know the priorities of a community member
with ties in a couple of different areas,
my values are community prosecutors, district attorney budget, yes.
F.E.I. Nature Center, yes.
A Riverside golf course in a high-income area, no.
I think it's very possible that you could reallocate some funds.
And out of that $3 million, $1.7 or $1.8 million,
go to the district attorney's office,
keep the community prosecutors who protect lower middle class
and lower class neighborhoods, keep people out of jail,
and still protect FEI Nature Center without any problems at all.
The communities that use the golf course can do their own fundraising quite adequately
without stressing their accounts.
Thank you very much.
Supervisor Desmond.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
And without going back and forth with a member of the public here,
just for clarification,
the project of Ansel Hoffman is for the roads and the parking lots there.
If any of you have been down there,
it is one of the most heavily utilized regional parks in Sacramento County,
utilized by everybody throughout the county,
which I'm very proud of,
but the roads and the parking lots have literally been falling apart.
This is not money that's being allocated to FEI.
It's for the infrastructure down there,
and it's been planned for many, many years.
And Mr. DeFonte, isn't it in the CIP?
It's actually under construction right now.
Yeah, but it's in the CIP?
I believe so, yes.
So different budgets is my point, right?
Then law enforcement and some of the other things.
Yeah, these were one-time monies allocated for that specific project,
and then the golf fund has operated it with restricted funding.
Like I said, complicated budget.
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
My name is Kevin Higgins,
and I'm the community prosecutor for the downtown core area of Sacramento.
In the community prosecution unit,
we always ask how can we make our community better?
Specifically, we ask how can we achieve that win-win
where we improve public safety
and at the same time help the individuals
who threaten that public safety deal with their untreated issues?
This effort gave birth to the DA's office,
the chronic offender rehabilitation effort, or core program,
where we offer chronic offenders
who have untreated substance abuse and mental health issues a way out.
We offer them placement instead of jail time.
Without the intervention of the community prosecution unit,
these individuals who were prolific offenders
were wreaking havoc on our streets,
negatively affecting businesses, workers, residents, and visitors.
Without intervention,
these individuals were doing life in jail on the installment plan,
30 days here, 45 days there,
all the while flying under the radar
without any attempt to change the downward trajectory of their lives.
I would like to highlight two individuals
who turned their lives around
through the efforts of the community prosecution unit.
The first individual,
I personally handled 17 cases with him,
if you can imagine that,
before we were able to place him in our core program.
He completed the program,
and for over a year,
he has been living in a sober living environment.
This past year,
he approached the Sacramento Police Department bike officers
who used to arrest him,
walked up to them,
proudly displayed the certificate of completion of our core program,
and thanked them
for helping him address his issues
and get off the streets.
He has had no new cases since 2023.
Another prolific offender in the downtown area,
I filed 10 cases against her in a 12-month period of time.
She was literally wasting away on the streets of downtown.
Through community prosecution unit intervention,
she got help.
She reunited with her family after 17 years.
She now resides with her family,
is drug-free,
takes her medications on her own,
and has had no new cases since 2022.
This is the work of the community prosecution unit,
saving lives while improving public safety.
Saving this unit is a win-win,
and thank you for your time.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
My name is Carolyn Massengale,
and I've been with the district attorney's office for 15 years,
and I'm currently assigned as one of your community prosecutors
to the Sacramento Delta and South Sacramento.
Working in community prosecution
is unlike any other assignment in this office.
We aren't just reactive to crimes.
We work directly with citizens, businesses, and law enforcement
to take a proactive approach addressing challenges in our neighborhoods.
We engage and build solutions with our community members,
especially when their quality of life is being impacted by complex
or persistent issues that they can't tackle alone.
I want to highlight just two examples of successes
that we've had in the South Sacramento area
for the community prosecution unit.
In 2022, the Asian community in South Sacramento
was living in fear due to a series of robberies
that were targeting Asian-owned businesses and patrons.
In response to this crisis,
my colleague Mai Tru and I,
who are both prosecutors assigned to this area,
partnered with the Vietnamese Chamber of Commerce
to start a business watch,
a monthly meeting bringing together local law enforcement
and community members to share safety concerns
and collaborate on solutions.
I actually saw the business,
the owners of Pegasus Bakery here today,
Jonathan and Cynthia Lamb,
who graciously hosted our meetings for a full year.
We also conducted septet evaluations
with all the local businesses in the area,
crime prevention through environmental design,
to encourage and make recommendations to businesses
to make physical improvements to deter criminal activity.
Another example of a success in South Sacramento
involved an apartment complex
located on Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard.
At this particular apartment complex,
the residents were living in unsafe and unlivable conditions,
no regular electricity, squalor-like conditions,
and rampant criminal activity.
When you walked into the opening area of the apartment complex,
literally on the wall, in quotations,
someone wrote,
our slumlord makes us live in garbage.
With the collaboration of the Sacramento County Sheriff's Office
South Pop Team, code enforcement, fire,
and our office, we engaged with the property owner
and we were able to safely relocate residents
and board up the building,
putting an end to this unfit and dangerous condition.
These cuts will directly impact the residents' quality of life
and our ability to do this work.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
It's nice to see all of you in one place.
I'm used to seeing you one at a time.
My name is Ron Lithicum.
I have the pleasure of supervising the Community Prosecution Unit
for the District Attorney's Office.
The District Attorney's Office has a very unique ability
to collaborate across all jurisdictional boundaries
within the Sacramento County itself.
It's through this collaborative approach
that the Community Prosecution Unit
is able to tackle the most difficult issues facing our community.
Things that often fall just below a real serious crime
or criminal activity,
but nonetheless affect our community in great ways.
Nuisance crimes, vandalism,
low-level crimes that my predecessors have talked about
where we employ the CORE program.
I wanted to share one of the successful programs that we used.
It was used at the McClellan Business Park.
McClellan is a very important business district
where many, many businesses are thriving.
They were in trouble.
They had some issues.
In fact, it was a unique location
because three board members' jurisdiction
abutted each other at that location.
And I had the pleasure at the first meeting
of meeting with some angry citizens and business owners
and three board members
where we offered up a chance to start a business watch.
Since then, and still to this day,
we meet monthly to address their concerns,
their issues, listen to their complaints.
When we started,
there was rampant vandalism, crime,
large homeless camps across from schools,
across from museums.
We have worked with our collaborative partners,
the sheriff, highway patrol, code enforcement,
department of transportation,
and certainly not the least,
the board of supervisors themselves.
You have helped us tremendously.
We changed the parking to no stopping zones.
We removed large camps
that attributed some of the criminal activity.
I'm not saying homelessness is a crime
because it's certainly not.
But within that community, like any community,
there is some criminal activity.
And when they live right next to your business,
it can be incredibly damaging.
The proposed cuts to the district attorney's office
will affect the community prosecution's ability
to implement our mission,
which is to make the citizens safe here in Sacramento.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Good afternoon, supervisors and staff.
My name is Franco Garcia,
and I represent the Sacramento Association of Realtors,
and I'm a small business owner.
As realtors, we sell Sacramento as a safe and secure community
with resources that complement a neighborhood
and the surrounding businesses.
We as the Sacramento Association of Realtors
believe that safe communities
are tantamount to a robust real estate market
and make the region a desirable destination
for those looking to realize their dream of homeownership
or opening a business.
Almost 90% of the county's discretionary revenue budget
is funded by property taxes and sales use tax.
See page 10 of the budget memo on that.
So when contemplating cutting a budget item,
you need to take a sharp, detailed, and hard look
into what affects home buyers and business owners
wanting to live and or work in Sacramento County.
When we see that public safety
has a $1.7 million reduction in the proposed budget,
we see those line items as a shortcoming
for those in public safety to do what is needed
to ensure the safety of the people of the county.
Those cuts go against what the community looks for
when they think about where they want to live or work.
The people of the state passed Prop 36
with an overwhelming vote rebuking Prop 47,
which allowed petty criminals to abuse the system.
Now that Prop 36 is in place,
we need a robust DA's office and staff
to be fully funded so they can enforce
what the people have asked for
and need to enforce the laws at all levels of crime.
The budget would not allow the hires needed
by the DA's office to enforce any misdemeanor crimes
and would continue the lawlessness of Prop 47
as the word on the street gets out
to those that commit these crimes.
We as a county and our association
should look forward in boosting the budget
of public safety and not look backwards,
which allows those that commit these crimes
to do so without consequences.
As a non-categorical reduction in the budget,
the DA's office reduction is at the supervisors
and CEOs' discretion in order to balance the general fund.
Again, we must realize the effect of the cut
to the DA's office, which would have a profound impact
on what the county needs most,
more homeowners and more businesses operating
to augment the county's largest funding mechanism,
property taxes and sales use.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Thank you for having me.
My name is Samantha Beck.
I'm the executive director
of the Carmichael Improvement District.
And I'm here to represent not just our district
but the greater Carmichael community.
We're located in District 3
in an unincorporated community in Sacramento County.
It is, I really want to urge this board
to make public safety a top priority
as you're reviewing the funding
of the district attorney's office
and the sheriff's department.
As a property and business improvement district,
we continue to face significant public safety concerns,
retail theft, drug activity, arson, illegal dumping
and ongoing challenges are directly impacting us every day.
And the district attorney's office
and the sheriff's department play a vital role
in addressing these concerns.
The hot and pop team have played a significant role
in making sure that our community is clean and safe
as well as the district attorney's office.
Their leadership has been just incredible
in our community.
I'm also a direct recipient of the support provided
by the DA's office
as well as the sheriff's department
as a domestic abuse survivor myself.
Our DA was Ruan Dozier
and that was a long time ago
and she changed our lives forever.
Their work saves lives and it brings justice
and they need the capacity to continue doing both.
So I ask that you please don't set us back,
that you please prioritize the DA's office
and the sheriff's department
and show that our community continues to put safety first.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It's about to get loud in here.
Oh, yeah, sure, she knows.
I was waiting for that.
All right.
I just want to say to you, Damien,
I love that testimony from that young man, Damien,
that says hope for our future.
And as a matter of fact, I'm going to talk about hope.
So my name is Jason Wendt.
I'm the executive director
for the Watt Avenue Partnership,
also known as the 80 Watt PBID.
That's Property Business Improvement District.
Rich Desmond, thank you very much.
And also a little bit of fill in there.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
So hope.
This is the word that undergirds
and supports my two-minute commentary right now.
For decades, Watt Avenue North Highlands
has struggled with a particular stigma,
a reputation,
that of being an area known for homelessness,
drugs, gang trafficking,
and theft activities.
Our PBID was formed in 2015 to help combat this.
And through a consistent series of collaborative efforts
with law enforcement and county officials,
we have seen tremendous progress
in the aforementioned areas of concern.
hope.
Hope.
Things are tight.
We understand.
Everyone gets a little haircut,
a little off the top, as it were.
But that said,
the Watt Avenue Partnership is, at this moment,
experiencing a very unique time in its history.
Together with the Transit Center Improvement Project,
the Complete Streets Project,
and the impending safe-stay facility,
on top of regular monthly meetings
with law enforcement, district attorneys, volunteers,
and those invested in the success
of the Watt Avenue movement,
we are now the closest we have ever been
to changing that negative stigma around.
Hope.
I simply say here that while cuts must be made,
I implore all involved parties
to please consider the impact
that those cuts may have on special districts like ours,
the ability to actually meet with law enforcement,
hot team, pop team,
ask questions of the district attorney,
all of whom attend the meetings,
are in the room,
and can help give clarity
on the changes of the laws, rules, and regulations
that govern our county
and affect us in real time.
That is invaluable.
It provides hope.
I know that you all care.
So I'm preaching to the choir when I say,
please, in your consideration,
use discernment,
use your perspicacity
and your oversight of these cuts,
and how certain category reductions
might affect our special districts.
Every tiny bit that we can obtain and sustain
helps us and gives us continued hope
as we move forward with passion,
power, and purpose.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I need a thesaurus up here.
Why did I have to go behind Jason?
Oh.
So, board chair, members of the board of supervisors,
my name is Frank Louie,
and I represent Stockton Boulevard Partnership.
We've got over 475,
we represent over 475 businesses
in our business corridor,
and I think we have one of the most diverse
business corridors in the city.
And the community prosecutors are invaluable to us.
The fact that they're really proactive
and a good case in point is
we had this problematic apartment unit
that was just right off of Stockton Boulevard,
and, of course, we, the P-Bids,
really don't have neither the carrot or the stick
to get these folks in compliance,
but it was a heavy area
that was responsible for a lot of the human trafficking
on Stockton Boulevard.
And our community prosecutor,
and I didn't realize Carolyn Massagale was here,
but she was very proactive and vigilant
and stayed true to about two years
of just constant using not only CEPTED,
which is crime prevention through environmental design,
but really engaging the property managers
to be more proactive
to really make our community safe.
And that was just one of the things that they do,
but we do the fentanyl outreach education
and the retail theft that we have ongoing
and all of our respective P-Bids.
And just the fact that we do
our monthly safety on Stockton Boulevard meeting
where we're collaborating
with our law enforcement partners,
our code enforcement partners
to really get a handle of what the issue
and what are some of the issues
that we need to prioritize.
So if we could find money in the budget,
and it just feels that we really would love to,
our ask would be to really look
at saving our community prosecutors.
So thank you again.
Thanks, Frank.
Good afternoon, Chair Serna,
members of the Board of Supervisors,
and to all of our county partners,
Scott Ford on behalf of the Downtown Sacramento Partnership,
proud to serve in California's original
property-based improvement district dating back to 1994.
And as someone who grew up in the city,
currently resides in the unincorporated county,
it gives me great fulfillment every day
to come in and to serve a central neighborhood
that really is the epicenter of Sacramento County.
I do want to acknowledge something
that our county executive said earlier,
the engagement and the partnership
that our organization has with everybody with the county,
from our supervisor Serna to chief executive
David Villanueva and staff.
The progress that we are seeing
in the downtown neighborhood
is directly attributed to a great working relationship
that we have with the county of Sacramento,
the city, the state, and the community at large.
I truly believe that.
One thing that I do know,
that while we try to really rely
on proactive public safety measures,
lighting, positive programming,
pressure washing every day,
it's not always enough.
And one thing that we've heard this afternoon,
and I'll echo again,
is the success is really based on having that ability
to reach out to our community prosecutor.
In this case, it's Kevin Higgins,
who you heard from earlier today,
to really work on getting people
that are on destructive pathways for themselves,
but also for the community at large,
hopefully into pathways towards progress
and positivity for them.
Our council member, Roger Dickinson,
said earlier, it's about intervention.
And I truly believe that.
I've been in this job for over a decade now,
and I've seen individuals who I know by name,
and I've seen them go from paths of destructive behavior
towards much more positive paths towards themselves.
And to me, that's what a robust
and a well-funded community prosecutor program
represents for our central city.
The laws that we have in place
are only as effective as our ability to enforce them
and to hold people accountable
when they are on those pathways.
So, you know, again,
as we look at making very tough decisions
as it relates to the budget,
and I fully recognize how difficult that process is,
I just want to echo that what we hear every day
from our businesses, the employees,
and people who come down and enjoy this neighborhood
is that public safety is foundational
to the social, economic health of Sacramento County.
Thank you.
Thanks, Scott.
Thank you.
Good afternoon, Chair and members of the Board.
My name is Kaylee Olgerson,
and I'm here on behalf
of the Sacramento Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce
and our member businesses
that we represent across the Sacramento County.
We want to begin by recognizing the complexities involved
in developing a balanced budget,
especially during a time of economic difficulty.
I want to thank the county executive and his team
in navigating these difficult decisions
while responding to a wide range of community needs.
That being said, when we ask our members
what matters most to their ability to operate
and grow their businesses in Sacramento County,
the answer is consistent, public safety.
Public safety is not just a community issue.
It is also a business issue.
It's the foundation for a healthy local community
and a stable environment where employees, customers,
and small business owners can thrive.
With the passage of Prop 36,
we are at a turning point to ensure accountability
to improve the conditions within our communities.
But we do not want this tool to be underutilized
due to limited resourcing.
Sacramento's broader prosperity depends on the ability
to ensure that quality-of-life crimes do not continue
to undermine confidence and progress in our county.
We encourage the board to,
or we urge the board to prioritize
public safety investments in this budget cycle,
particularly in the staffing systems
and partnerships that will make this possible.
Thank you for your time and consideration today.
Thank you.
Before you start, can you do me a favor?
Bring the microphones like in.
There you go.
We want to be able to see you as well as hear you.
Gotcha.
Good afternoon.
My name is Michael Beller.
I am here on behalf of the Arden Plus Health Business Alliance,
a property business improvement district,
and as a resident of Arden Arcade.
I want to address a significant concern
regarding the proposed cuts to public safety,
which would severely limit the quality of life
that directly impacts our district and business community.
The potential loss of the community prosecutors
who serve as a direct link between our businesses
and the justice system,
the homeless outreach team,
which provides a critical service to individuals
in need of intervention,
and the problem-oriented policing team,
addressing chronic crime,
and supporting businesses
will affect the safety and stability
of our commercial corridors.
These proposed cuts to both the district attorney's office
and the Sacramento sheriff's office
would significantly reduce and delay
the county's responses
to persistent public safety challenges.
A functioning system of enforcement,
prosecution, and outreach is not optional.
It is the basic building block of economic development
and foundational to the health and safety
of our communities.
We urge the board to maintain funding
for these essential services
to prevent further strain on our businesses,
neighborhoods, and shared quality of life.
Thank you for your time.
Thank you.
20% of our communities
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and his team and the hot and pop teams, and their involvement with our community has been invaluable.
Through this collaboration, we've effectively addressed challenges within our homeless community,
distinguishing those in genuine need from individuals engaging in criminal behavior,
a distinction that benefits everyone.
We've made a big difference proactively working together, and I truly hope that we can continue to do so.
If this partnership were to end, it would have a dire impact on the safety and well-being of our community.
The progress we've made so far, and we've made a lot of progress, I've been there for many years,
I've seen it with my own eyes, would quickly unravel.
This relationship is crucial and must be preserved.
I urge you to not cut the funding. These teams actually work.
And as somebody that's worked in government before, that's really important.
I just heard Sheriff Cooper say some of the programs are barely moving the needle.
We can say for sure these hot and pop teams, the DA's office working with our community,
has really, truly made a difference.
So I urge you to find funding elsewhere.
Don't cut them. Thank you.
Hello. My name is Julie King. I own the Last Tangle Salon in Orangeville.
I'm right next door to the library.
I oppose, and I encourage you to oppose, any cuts for the DA and the Sheriff's Department.
Funding reduction should be at the loss of waste, not within critical services.
The reason the cuts proposed sounds so wildly inappropriate is because it's absolutely irresponsible to ask these departments to take cuts.
Government's obligation is to utilize our taxes properly and keeping law-abiding community safe, and that takes precedence.
Law-abiding community is greater than criminals.
Safety is basic. Nothing can survive or thrive without safety, especially in the unincorporated areas like Orangeville and Fair Oaks.
I'm next door to the library.
I experience firsthand the unhoused and drug addiction.
It's on full display for me.
From drug use in public, blight, and inappropriate behaviors right in front of my salon, scaring the little old ladies that get their hair done.
We're a lot alike. Businesses provide amenities that keep their employees and customers to stay with them.
Without safety, it makes it impossible to build those checking and savings accounts that you were talking about, Mr. Cerna.
Not all budgets are equal. Therefore, budget cuts should not be equal either.
I have an autistic son. Equality and equity are not the same.
It is equitable to put the cuts back into the departments that have waste, not underfunded ones like the sheriff and DA's office.
The times that law enforcement and prosecution are well-funded and enforced are obvious.
We're holding the line, but just barely.
The work of Ron Linthicum and his team has been essential in preventing things from spiraling out of control.
We've, as a community state engaged, don't undo what we've built.
Slashing the DA's budget now would undo years of effort from both law enforcement and community members who have stepped up to be a part of the solution.
We'd lose momentum, lose ground, and lose trust.
What we need is more, not less.
Cutting this budget is the exact opposite of what our community needs.
In summary, I urge you to oppose these proposed cuts.
Lack of safety is a lack of care at the core of your community.
Thank you for your time.
Good afternoon.
Thank you very much for your time.
My name is Charles Smyth with Market Street Development.
I represent the ownership at 1950 Arden Way, the former Chase building.
The building was required in 2021 in attempts to, the plan was to renovate it for medical.
That fell apart without going into all the development issues and details we faced.
The partnership had spent hundreds of thousands on security and was a losing battle.
The building was continuously battleized, broken into, unfortunately, homeless camps.
The, Ron reached out to our partners in Alabama who turned around and reached out to me and working with Ron and the community prosecution group and SAC PD were able to get in there, get the building cleaned up, secure the premises again.
And they lined us up with a fantastic security company.
And I just want to say what they've done for the community and for our project has been wonderful.
And I hate to see their budgets cut.
It put the project back in our problem and we've been handling it since then.
Thanks to Ron and his team.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Afternoon, Chair.
Boards of Supervisor members.
My name is Aaron Zeff.
I'm a business owner.
I'm a member of multiple PBIDS, founded the Midtown Business Association, and currently a board member of Crime Stoppers.
Wanted to make a few points.
One, Sacramento does not have Fortune 100 headquarters and companies that are investing in our community.
This community is made up of small businesses.
SAC doesn't have an abundance of rich uncles.
By the numbers, the county and the city of Sacramento, you are our rich uncles.
Rich uncles are usually very astute and they also look for a return on investment.
And based on your growth estimates that I saw today, and I'm not an economist,
based upon property tax reductions that I and many of my other business associates are currently filing due to the vacancy rates,
the crime, the absolute decaying of our central city, those property tax numbers are probably likely to decrease.
What does a doom loop look like?
A doom loop looks like business closures, increased crime, unsatisfied community, reduced building permits,
and additional needs for property-based improvement districts.
So let's understand what a property-based improvement district is.
We as business community come together to provide clean and safe economic development and marketing.
Why?
Because the community that we thought we were investing in used to provide that.
So we're taxing ourselves.
And now you're asking us to see a current budget that doesn't allow for misdemeanor police response.
The majority of the people in this room have never required a priority one law enforcement response.
The sheriff was detailed in letting us know that that's also about a 14-minute response time,
which is statistically greater than other communities of our size.
However, the majority of us in this room have made a priority two call to law enforcement,
meaning we've needed a misdemeanor response for a quality-of-life crime.
And so today's discussion about providing basic services does not reflect what is actually needed in your community.
The majority of people in this room need law enforcement to arrive to address misdemeanor complaints,
vagrancy, homeless, urination, defecation-armed businesses.
For example, last night, McDonald's, 2331 Broadway.
The business called for a law enforcement response.
An addict, homeless individual with multiple arrests, known to our community prosecutors,
absolutely destroyed the bathroom.
Not only destroyed the bathroom...
Aaron, can you...
Oh, wrap it up?
Yeah.
Sorry.
Destroyed the bathroom, but it took law enforcement three hours to get there.
How, in your right mind, can you ever run a business in the city, in the county,
if we can't get misdemeanors and community prosecutors to do their job?
I'm calling for an increase in their budgets, both law enforcement, POP, and HOST,
if not, double it, because that's where the leverage is and the return on investment for our community resides.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And just before we hear from the next speaker, my analogy extension to the rich uncle was for the federal and state government, not the private industry.
Hello, board.
My name is Jazz Handel.
I'm a local businessman, and I own some retail stores and restaurants in Sacramento area.
I'm a board member of American Petroleum and Convenience Store Association also.
So, along with my fellow retailers from APCA, American Petroleum and Convenience Store Association,
I'm here to oppose and express our serious concerns regarding the proposed budget cuts of $1.75 million to the Sacramento District Attorney's budget.
We understand that these proposed reductions could negatively impact public safety by potentially leading to necessary staff cuts.
A decrease in resources of a district attorney could result in increased crime and theft within our community.
To illustrate the importance of the public safety, I would like to share a personal experience.
One evening, after my restaurant was closed, my staff was leaving when they were aggressively approached and intimidated by a group of individuals.
The situation was tense, and their safety felt uncertain.
Fortunately, a passing police cruiser on a routine patrol caused the group to immediately disperse, allowing my staff to get home safely.
This incident highlighted me that public safety is a crucial element, often unnoticed until urgently needed.
The presence of law enforcement and well-resourced district attorney's office to prosecute criminals are vital for our community services.
Given the increasing issues of retail theft and concerns about public safety,
the district attorney's office requires more resources to effectively address these challenges.
Therefore, we strongly oppose this proposed budget cut and instead urge to prioritize the necessary funding of the district attorney to ensure the safety and well-being of the Sacramento residents.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Community members and Board of Supervisors.
My name is Jonathan Lam.
I'm a Sacramento County resident and local business owner and United States Coast Guard.
I'm in the life-saving business.
And today, I'm here to speed up for the public safety.
I ask you to say no to the budget cut on our district attorney's office.
This year, California ended the policy that allowed the theft under $950 to go unpunished.
This is a big step forward.
But it also means the DA's office is now overwhelmed with new and backlogged cases.
We are finally starting to see hopes and accountability return to our street.
But if we cut DA's office budget now, we'll risk undoing all the progress.
Justice delay is justice denied.
If the saying goes, you cannot expect a horse to run without feeding it.
You cannot expect the business to grow and be able to contribute to county funds and taxes
when public doesn't feel safe to leave, shop, and do business in here.
Imagine you visiting the Capitol Rose Garden.
When you came back and your car's been broken, the police caught the person, but it took years to prosecute.
What message does it send to the criminal?
Again, justice denied is justice denied.
As a member of Asian American community, we care deeply about the safety of our elderly, children, family, and business.
As a business owner, I also understand the importance of balancing the budget, but public safety is our first priority.
Now is the time for us to stand united, speed up, and take action to protect our community.
Let's support our DA's office, police, public safety, and justice for all.
And also, one thing I want to spot out is it's a very nice water fountain out there.
Those things are luxury, it's not necessity.
Cutting budget is never fun, it's stressful for everyone, but we need to make our right decision.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for the opportunity to speak.
My name is Dan Branton, and I'm a senior representative for the NorCal Carpenters Union.
I'm here to kind of give the perspective of the working class.
You know, a lot of my brothers and sisters were here earlier today.
We actually have an election today.
They stayed as long as they could, but they've asked me to, like, deliver the message for them.
You know, the Sacramento area and the construction industry in general, it tends to be an area where there's a lot of crime.
You know, it comes to, you know, and just putting it into perspective, before I became a union member, I worked in the housing tracks.
You know, I was young.
I didn't know what I was doing yet.
The contractor that I worked for actually, you know, worked me a certain amount of time and then refused to pay me at the end of it.
I will tell you, you know, and I'm a demographic that I don't feel like I'm always, you know, targeted for these type of things, but I did not know where to go.
I didn't know who was going to support me in this kind of thing.
I knew that I had rent to pay.
My wife was pregnant.
I didn't know how I was going to pay my bills.
This is happening every day.
Our DA ho has taken the step, which a lot of areas aren't doing yet.
You know, they look, a lot of times we look at the most egregious crimes, and that's where we put it, but we forget about the working class.
We forget about people trying to earn their way.
We look at this housing crisis we have, and we look at the people that are already homeless and houseless.
We forget about the people that are trying to pay their bills and try to stay housed, you know.
So I want to bring up this point that wage theft is also tax fraud, which is it's lost income, and it's lost income to not only your constituents who would be buying things in the community, and that's, you know, feeding our economy,
but it's also loss of income for our tax dollars, right, which pays for our parks and all of our services.
So it's money back in.
It's an investment.
I'm going to wrap up by just saying that please don't cut the DA's budget.
He's fighting for the working class and for us, and, you know, he's the person that we really need to be investing in to invest for our community.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
I know we all want the same thing, which is a safer and prosperous Sacramento County for all its citizens.
I realize that you being on the Board of Supervisors is hard work, and it takes dedication.
It's a great responsibility to oversee this great county.
But today I must urge you to stand with our District Attorney, Ten Ho.
I am Patricia Marys, a labor compliance investigator for the Workforce Defense League.
As a labor compliance investigator, I help workers who are cheated out of their wages, people like Jose Chavez, who you'll hear from next.
The area I cover is Sacramento County.
It's where I live.
I've seen hundreds of workers in this county who have been victims of wage theft, some badly injured and left in the cold by their employers to cover their own medical expenses.
We fight every day to help, and what we've learned is that the civil remedy through the labor commissioner's office or the court does not act as a deterrent for these crimes.
I have seen so many contractors steal and continue to steal because the penalty is just to pay what they owe, and the slate is wiped clean.
Wage theft is a part of a penal code, 487M.
This makes it clear that it should be treated like other thefts and prosecuted criminally.
District Attorney Ten Ho has chosen to lead the way in this regard, and charged Pro Frame Incorporated with the crime of wage theft last May.
This is the first of its kind in Sacramento County.
The Workforce Defense League referred this case to the DA's office, and we feel that if contractors realize that the penalty for stealing will not simply be to pay what they owe years later, I might add,
that they will stop this practice and allow fair contractors to perform this work.
The Sacramento County District Attorney's Office deserves to continue this fight for the workers of this county.
We urge you to not cut their budget so that working people have a fair chance against the criminal contractors who steal from them.
Cutting their wages is going to hurt us all.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
My name is Jose Chavez, and I live in Sacramento.
I work as a carpenter's union apprentice here in Sacramento, making prevailing wage benefits.
But this was not always the case.
Before I came to the NorCal Carpenters Union, I was a wood framer and a victim of wage theft in many forms.
I was not paid for all my hours.
I did not receive overtime, and rarely was I allowed to take breaks.
I knew this wasn't right, but I didn't know this was illegal until I was approached by Patricia Ramirez, and she explained what wage theft was.
That's when I learned that this contractor was stealing from me.
In total, they had stolen over $20,000 from me in two different projects.
Mr. Ramirez helped me get in touch with the Workforce Defense League, who filed a lawsuit on my behalf.
With their help, I was able to stand up for myself and settle my case.
But the truth is that money that was stolen in any other way, the company would have been held accountable for their actions and not been able to buy their way out of this crime.
If they stole that money from a store or a bank and not a hardworking person like me, they would have been convicted of a crime.
District Attorney Ten Ho understands this, and he's leading the way in California to seek that working people are treated fairly under the law.
If he had those resources back then, then maybe we wouldn't be here today.
Please give our District Attorney the resources that needs to function and help others so they do not suffer as I did.
I want to thank the Board of Supervisors and their hard work and dedication to this county and the people in it.
Thank you.
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Good afternoon, respected Chair Cerner and Board of Supervisors.
My name is Todd Schiavo.
I'm the business manager of UA Local 447 Plumbers and Pipe Fitters and the president of the Sacramento Sierra Building Trades.
I'm here today to kind of repeat what some of the others have said in that the DA has been instrumental in helping working folks with his worker protection coalition.
The damage that these contractors are doing to families is tangible and it creates food insecurities, housing insecurities for them and his work has been instrumental.
Also, you know, I feel like Sacramento has kind of made a rebound after the COVID pandemic, right?
Things are starting to happen, works happening, the downtown is frequented by a lot of people and I think it's a lot of people.
And I attribute a lot of that to kind of the crackdown that's been happening and, you know, the DA's efforts to hold people accountable.
Accountability is the probably one of the best deterrents.
So the DA, as part of the business community, I train adults to, our union trains adults to have living wage careers and have successful careers that provide for them benefits, fringes, you know,
all these things.
And our training center was under attack.
It had been vandalized repeatedly and we had experienced theft, vandalism.
And I reached out to a lot of people and got no help until I reached out to Tin Ho.
Tin Ho was there within 20 minutes and we had that problem rectified within a day and we haven't had a problem since.
So I'm no stranger to budgets.
I appreciate the job you have to do and the tough decisions you have to make.
I just urge you to consider that let's not go backwards.
Let's continue forward.
Let's give the business community the protection they deserve and let's give the workers the protection they deserve.
Thank you.
Welcome back.
I know it's been hours.
Thank you.
I had a chance to say good morning to you.
Good afternoon everyone.
My name is Ahmad Salim Abdulrahman and I am here today representing geishin resources, community-based
organization serving Sacramento's immigrants, refugee and low-income families of color since 1980.
Public safety is community safety and in maintaining the community safety the A's office has been working hard
to ensure that various communities of Sacramento are protected in every way possible.
Currently we are seeing a huge uptick in cases involving sexual assault, child abuse and domestic violence and in times like this the DA's office needs more support not less.
In fact they are doing more with less.
Whether it is tackling retail theft, fentanyl trafficking or providing communities outreach and education.
Meanwhile CO recommendations have consistently favored increases for the public defender but not for the DA.
Our community relies on timely prosecution and intervention particularly for victims who are immigrants, refugees or survivors of violence.
Public safety must remain board's top priority and for the reason we respectfully ask you to reject any cuts to the district attorney's office,
especially the purpose of the 1.7 million reduction which would eliminate seven critical
attorneys' position.
Please do not weaken the system that protects those who cannot protect themselves.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hi, my name is Mary Lou.
I am the CEO for APAPA which is a nonprofit organization that has a headquarters office in Sacramento.
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Pardon me.
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The name on the list, is it?
The one ahead of it had his name with my name next to it.
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Sorry.
There were three different versions.
Gotcha.
Sorry for the interruption.
And I'm also a business owner, local business owner in Sacramento operating with my husband,
24 restaurants in three counties, eight of those restaurants are in Sacramento.
I wanted to really thank all the business owners, all the community leaders, especially the grassroots residents
and the people who live and work in this beautiful city of trees, our state capital.
And we face so many challenges.
I'm just sitting and reading the statistics in Sacramento that we are at the bottom 5% out of 19,000 cities across the U.S.
Sacramento is the bottom 5% because of the high crime rate.
And we witness and experience that on an everyday basis, whether it be Pegasus Bakery, Dumpling House, VinFat Supermarkets,
or McDonald's, Golden Arch Enterprises.
So I urge you, when you make the sausage in the back and you talk about that, know that we are making the burgers in the front.
We are the front line workers.
Come on, we haven't had lunch.
We want to be there making the sausage in the back.
And we know that you have the heart in the community and you care.
It truly is scary.
Aaron, who spoke here earlier, talking about what happened at Broadway restaurant.
That's our restaurant.
A few weeks ago, a naked gentleman came in and put ice cream all over himself.
Right?
What do you do?
And the police, they try.
They do their best.
But they shouldn't be asked to do more with less.
And, you know, we're, honestly, we're scared.
We're trying to run our businesses.
And I worked in the DA's office in Yolo County and Solano County for about eight years before being coming the CEO of a nonprofit
and working in Sacramento with our restaurants and our teams.
We have thousands of team members.
And I tell them every day, this is admin.
This is budget cuts.
This is real world.
This is why you want 14 minutes or eight minutes for the sheriff to respond.
Do you want a community prosecutor?
You have to prioritize.
But lives matter.
And like what Jonathan said earlier, we're putting our lives on the line.
And there's nothing between us and whatever is going on in the general public, mental illness, crime, the fentanyl crisis,
that DA Tien Ho attested to earlier.
We experienced that.
I want to share with you my experience and my respect for the DA and for the sheriff's department.
When we call, when we set up meetings, anything that we need, we follow up on those police reports, those enhancements for the hate crimes.
My husband was a victim of hate crime as well, told to go back to his country and assaulted.
Luckily, there's a police officer in the drive-through line getting his Big Mac at the time.
But we hope that you will think of our community, raise that roof.
This is your roof.
This is your house.
1.5 million residents in Sacramento under that roof.
Protect our community.
Protect your house.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon again.
I'm David Ingram, one of the co-founders of River City Waterway Alliance.
I want to thank the board of supervisors for your ongoing support of our organization.
In just about 2.5 years, we've now removed 2.9 million pounds of trash from local area waterways.
Thank you.
That's all volunteer work and we certainly appreciate the support that we get.
Three of our biggest partners who have helped us get to that point, especially in the county,
are facing budget cuts and we're here to talk about how we would like you to reconsider that.
First of all, is Sacramento County Regional Parks.
They have helped us clean up the parkway.
It's 5,000 acres.
Folks are streaming back into the parkway now in unprecedented numbers where they were scared
and we've never seen the parkway before.
We've never seen the parkway before.
We've never seen the parkway before.
We've never seen the parkway before before.
We've never seen the parkway before before.
I don't know if we can pull this up.
This scene is what we come across in the parkway and other waterways on a daily basis.
We do five cleanups a week.
This is what we have when we have encampments in our waterways.
This is an abandoned camp.
This is probably only about 300 pounds of trash.
So multiply that or divide that by 2.9 million pounds.
We've cleaned up thousands of these situations that are all along our waterways.
And you talk about district attorney's office and the sheriff's hot team and their pop team.
Those agencies have helped us tremendously as well.
Without enforcement of the basic laws, trespass laws, vagrancy laws, illegal camping on the parkway,
illegal camping along our waterways, without them we're going backwards.
We've worked so hard.
You've seen us work so hard for so long to get to where we are now.
We're at the tipping point where we're making progress.
And you've heard community members talk about how things are finally getting better.
And to get that revenue back, maybe it's not a spinning issue.
Maybe this is a revenue issue.
Maybe people aren't going to get too excited about moving into a community where this is on the other side of the levee.
Or maybe they're not going to want to come to the parkway to spend their tax money from out of town to go to a city where this is happening.
We're cleaning that up.
We're making progress.
We're going to bring the revenues back.
But invest in the agencies and the departments that are going to help you build the revenue.
When you're focusing on a budget deficit, how are we going to build that revenue?
We're going to do that by making the community safer, cleaning this up.
And we need Sacramento County Regional Parks.
We need the Sheriff's Department.
And we need the District Attorney.
And volunteers.
And we're getting it done.
So please just give us another year.
See where we can get before you start taking away.
Thank you.
Thank you again.
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Hello.
My name is Lisa Sanchez.
And I'm also a co-founder of River City Waterway Alliance.
And I just wanted to be here today to speak on behalf of the three agencies.
District Attorney's Office has been instrumental in what they've been able to help us accomplish.
We do feel that they have made tremendous strides in progress, especially coming out of the pandemic.
So it's again just a tipping point to be able to continue the momentum that they've been able to gain with all the wonderful assistance that they've provided the community.
Same with the Sheriff's Department.
It's just been astounding the turnaround that we've seen working with the Sheriff's Department within the County of Sacramento.
Sacramento.
They've been doing great things.
And again, it's just finally they're starting to make some headway.
So to retract any kind of funding for them, I think, would be extremely detrimental.
And the third would be the Sacramento County Regional Parks.
We have worked with them for a number of years now, helping to clean the parkway up of any illegal encampments and debris.
With this picture, it's kind of hard to see.
But this was actually a fire that went through an encampment that was kind of tucked away.
And we helped clean that up along with multiple others.
But the Sacramento County Regional Parks Department had such a brutal run through COVID.
When I actually returned back to Sacramento in 2015, I took my the first thing I did was take my two dogs for a walk through the parkway and I never went back.
I was completely mortified.
I didn't feel safe at all.
And it took me many, many, many years to want to come back to the parkway.
And with the additional funding that they've been able to receive a few years ago and the amazing progress that they've been able to have with their maintenance crews and the Rangers and all the support that they've received, along with us being able to facilitate the cleanups with them, it's a beautiful parkway again.
It's just a different ballgame than it was three years ago, four years ago, even two years ago.
So I do recommend and highly encourage the reductions for the parkway along with the district attorney's office and the sheriff's to not be slashed.
We appreciate your help and thank you.
I'm going to see if I'm the list is correct.
All right, Lisa.
I am very thrilled to be in a long list of friends both before me and after me.
I know many of these people.
I'm Amy Gardner and I'm a founding member of the Midtown ESAC Advocates.
I'm asking you today to support public safety and not to take funds away from the district attorney or the sheriff's office.
I know we have hard decisions to make, but these two departments and the people's public safety should be the number one responsibility of our leadership.
I know we have a lot of people who are in the county executive and our leadership team, but we all need to understand how important public safety is in our city.
As I'm coming here with many friends and neighbors, we do love our county.
We love our city and we love where we live, but things have caused it to not be very safe.
And I'm asking you specifically not to cut the DEA funding for the community prosecution units.
My neighborhood around McKinley Park has dealt with many big issues.
We've had habitual offenders who are attacking mothers, putting their children into their car seats at the park.
We have the same guy coming back and harassing and publicly exposing himself and fondling him to a young family that lives at the park.
We also have a vandal who enjoys coming and smashing people's windows with rocks and to attack the businesses, breaking the windows that are the storefronts of our community.
With the community prosecution unit, we have had a lot of help for our community.
We have helped us get these criminals prosecuted and issues abated.
We had a huge encampment by Miwok Middle School, formerly Sutter Middle School, and the district attorney and other local entities helped us clear that out.
We've seen less theft.
We've seen less robbery.
We've seen less drug dealing and we have less women and men on working the street corners as prostitutes.
This is good for our neighborhood.
This low-level crime directly affects the quality of life for us.
Prosecuting criminals through the DA prevents harm and violence to our citizens.
Keep funding the DA and make Sacramento a place people want to live, work, and thrive.
Thank you.
Good afternoon, board.
My name is Christina Rogers.
I am a lifelong Californian.
I have lived in Sacramento for 23 years raising my family and I'm also the president of the Land Park Community Association.
Looking at the recommended budget appropriations for 25-26, I see 37% to social services, 29% to community service, and 17% to public safety and justice.
When California voters overwhelmingly passed Prop 36, we made it clear we want crime to be addressed properly and swiftly.
And that includes funding the efforts.
And we know criminals without accountability continue to offend.
Sacramento is a hub for human trafficking.
Our local businesses have suffered.
Gang issue shootings are a regular part of the local news cycle.
And the amount of fentanyl and other deathly drugs being distributed in our communities is off the chart.
And our sheriff and DA are doing incredible work fighting it.
Also, misdemeanor or felony.
The defense and prosecution deserve equal funding.
It is not right to unbalance the caseload.
That leads me to believe there's an advantage to the defense and my question would be why.
I know not all of you up here agree with this.
But those who support cuts to the DA tell me victims are just an uncomfortable reality.
It's not your loved ones, right?
So if you cut prosecuting attorneys positions, victims of crime have every right to believe they've been abandoned and betrayed by their leaders.
Especially low income and marginalized victims.
Actions speak louder than words.
Cutting public safety.
Then the message is clear.
In Sacramento the scales of justice are not balanced for victims.
And our own leaders wear blindfolds ignoring victims suffering.
Thank you very much.
.
Good afternoon Board of Supervisors.
I'm going to be brief if you can show that real quick.
The reason I stood, those executives were here today.
And I'm going to tell you a story about that.
Where I live, Franklin Mack Road, we had a store that left.
It was considered a food desert.
And I tried hard to get a store there.
And after I contacted them, they came over and over.
It was in doubt.
They didn't want to do it.
So finally they did.
They opened there and then they looked around and said,
Hey, can you help us with three other buildings?
I assisted them.
And as they opened up on Franklin and Mack, due to the foot traffic,
we are now getting a quick quack car wash and one of the most innovative Dutch brothers on that corner.
Now getting to the DA's office.
I introduced them there.
Ever since they were introduced to the DA, they have been prolonged supporters of it.
Their stores has thrived.
Their theft has went down.
And it's not about locking people up.
If some come here and portray you just want to lock them up.
It's about what we voted for.
It's not about going out to lock folks up.
This mechanism has all kinds of programs in it for everyone.
So I support you to support not cutting that budget.
Because if you do, if it's not there, this is going to affect the stores.
From the stores to the employees, the prices and product.
And next thing you know, stores is not going to open up.
And they were here today again.
And because of this, I will give them permission to share this.
Because of what is being done, they're looking at four other locations in this Sacramento region.
So I applaud you not to cut that budget.
Thank you.
My name is Marie Harrell.
And I'm in the North Highlands area on the Watt Avenue District.
I'm actually a pastor of a church there.
And since the year of 1989 that we've been there, there's a lot that I've seen take place.
Thank you to the Board of Supervisors as well as the people that have worked here.
As well as the people that have worked on the budget.
And I would like to say I do understand and appreciate the analogies that the chair gave us.
Even for expressing the part about mortgages and the bills that go with it.
And I would like to say that the percentage that we have that goes when they showed the budget slide to public safety.
Is significantly less even than social services.
But it is a requirement that we can have the ability in our community to have the meetings that we do.
One of the ones that has been mentioned multiple times is with the DA.
And I can tell you in my over 30 years of being in that area and community meetings that I've been a part of.
That one has brought the greatest impact.
It brings both civil, government, community, business and social organizations together.
So that we can effectively not only know the programs you've already put in place.
But how to effectively use them in servicing our communities.
And what is done as a result.
As a result of those meetings we've seen a greater influx of change.
And not only change but hope that what we're doing is making a difference.
And I firmly believe that these budget allocations are required for the public safety.
So that we can continue to have those.
And in that analogy that the chair gave about the house as I was sitting there and listening.
Yes it is important that we can pay our mortgage.
But it's also important that we can pay our utilities.
And I would like to say that maybe we could look at potentially some of the growth areas.
And pair those back.
Because if we can pay our mortgage but we can't keep the lights and the heat on.
It doesn't really affect us if we can build three more rooms.
So I'm asking that we could take that into consideration.
And allow us because again having that aspect in our community.
Is allowing us to impact, see, understand and continue change.
Thank you.
Applause.
Good afternoon chair and supervisors.
Erin Teague on behalf of the Sacramento Association of Realtors.
Today we urge you to reconsider the proposed budget cuts to public safety in both the district attorney's office and the sheriff's department.
These agencies are essential to keeping our communities safe.
And the ability to fully implement Prop 36.
Which was passed with a strong 68% of the vote.
It isn't just about the numbers in a budget.
It's about whether people feel safe in their homes.
Whether victims see justice.
And whether small businesses can continue to operate without fear of repeated theft and property damage.
Public safety affects every part of our county from home ownership to local business investment.
Our members work in every neighborhood throughout Sacramento County and hear the same concerns.
Residents want to know that someone will respond when they call 911 and that crimes will be taken seriously.
Even though Prop 36 was only passed in November of 2024, we are already seeing the results through cleaner streets.
Small businesses can focus on the health of their business instead of the safety of their staff and patrons.
Cutting back now would reverse that progress and undermine public trust.
We need strong enforcement and prosecution to make meaningful progress.
We understand that each year brings difficult budget decisions.
But as you know, there is a direct connection between public safety, economic development, and long-term budget sustainability.
Attracting new business to our region not only supports a stronger workforce, it helps stabilize our local economy and ensures a healthier budget for years to come.
When our local economy thrives, it drives home ownership and healthier communities.
Thank you for your time today.
Good afternoon, members of the board.
My name is Greg Jones with Socopolis Investments.
And I also serve as a board member for the Carmichael Improvement District in District 3.
I'm here today to speak against the proposed budget cuts to the district attorney's office.
This issue is not just about numbers.
It's about public safety and the well-being of our communities, specifically downtown Sacramento, Carmichael, and every area in the county.
Cuts to the DA's budget would lead to a loss of new attorneys and community prosecutors, individuals who are essential for maintaining our justice systems.
Without adequate staffing and resources, we are setting ourselves up for potential increases in crime, as a failure to prosecute can allow offenders to escape accountability.
As a board member of the Carmichael P bid, I've witnessed the substantial gains we've made in improving our community over the past few years, especially in recent times.
However, I stand here with a deep concern that if the district attorney's office loses funding, all this progress could be at risk.
We cannot afford to allow these critical gains to be undermined.
It is imperative for us to advocate for the DA's budget to protect our communities and ensure that justice remains effective and accessible.
Let's work together to safeguard public safety and continue the positive momentum we have achieved.
Thank you for your time.
Good afternoon, board members.
My name is Gina Fleming.
I'm the development director at Sacramento Splash and happily will follow Damien because he's exactly why we're here.
We thank you for your time and realize that your time is valuable.
So we've consolidated our speakers and have a contingent here to support.
Please stand up with supporting a splash.
This isn't just about a line item on the budget.
It's about a program that's been opening up kids' eyes to the natural world for 26 years since 1999.
It's the investigating vernal pools program is often a student's first experience in seeing a live frog up close or learning that there's an entire ecosystem thriving in these pools that dry up by summer.
It's a kind of learning that sticks with them for life.
This proposed $75,000 cut would eliminate 20 field trips and that's over 600 kids gone from the preserve, gone from this opportunity.
We are not just talking about enrichment.
This is a core science learning that ties directly to state standards and supports teachers who are already spread so thin.
I'm coming to you.
I'm coming to you.
Almost my year anniversary with Splash and prior to their investment in me, Mackenzie Weiser, our CEO, ran this organization successfully through COVID.
Did all the fundraising, grew Splash from four to seven programs and kept rapport with our amazing donors all by herself.
Now as a team, we will actively work to keep the organization thriving, growing and create new partnerships to diversify our funding.
Splash isn't standing still.
We offered to take on preserve reporting to help where the county no longer has coverage and we hope to continue to support onboarding and the preserve management where we can.
We understand this is a very tough budget year, but I respectfully ask that you vote to keep Splash on the budget.
We value and respect our partnership and want to continue to do this important work.
This program is too effective and too important and meaningful to quietly disappear.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon, supervisors.
My name is Nigel Moore and I'm president of the board of Splash.
And it's my job with my fellow board trustees to be fiscally responsible.
During my tenure of the last four and a half years, two years as treasurer and two years as president, we have managed to grow our programming to serve over 18,000 students per year.
We currently have a shortfall of 130,000 for our project, our program and the historical dairy, Nicholas dairy and now growth.
Now in an additional 75,000 from Sacramento County, that's going to be a real tough job for us to continue on these programs.
For 25 years, the investigating polls program has been one of the most impactful ways we connect students to science and nature.
This isn't extra.
It's a cornerstone.
Damien, you heard from earlier, is a perfect example of what we do for these kids when we take them to the vernal pools.
In the big picture of things, $75,000 is a very small portion for a Sacramento budget.
But Sacramento Splash, it's a huge loss and carries penalties to many schools we serve.
I joined the board of Sacramento Splash because the future of our environment and what lives and soon to be a cultural hands in the children and our children's children and helping them foster the stewardship, education and understanding will broaden their curiosity and ability to grow up as adults that care and protect a delicate environment.
I respectively request you restore Splash funding to your budget.
Thank you very much.
Good afternoon, supervisors.
My name is Maggie Ellis and I'm a veteran teacher who has been supported by the wonderful Splash program for the past 20 years.
I also put my money where my mouth is and I contribute personally to Splash.
I want to thank you for your support of Splash.
It has allowed so many students to connect classroom learning to the real world.
As I've told my students, science is your life.
It is our responsibility as the community to educate students about the importance of water now more than ever, especially with the cost of water increasing.
Not only does Splash do that, it plants the seeds for students to see their impact in the world.
We don't always see that seed grow to its fullest potential until later.
It was just this last year that Splash staff contacted me to share that one of my former students had visited Splash, remembered his critter and his field trip and is now working for the county department of planning and environmental review.
Does that not pay it forward?
As my students, all my students wanted to come today, I actually took a personal necessity today because I believe this is a personal necessity.
It is a necessity for our students and our environment.
Their ability to share their knowledge about the water, about critters, about their impact in our environment is something they never forget.
Hence, the student who is now one of your employees.
It is not only my hope, but theirs, that you will continue to fully support Splash so that their siblings and future students can experience this kind of outdoor education learning and continue to plant the seeds of the role of them in our water cycle and environmental conservation.
Over the years, I have educated over 500 students using Splash curriculum.
I can tell you it makes an impact.
So I ask that you fully support Splash now and in the future.
And you are welcome to come to my classroom because we're still in session and they would love to deliver their speeches to you in which I said, go to the Carroll County supervisors and tell why you cannot build on a vernal pool.
Please come see me anytime.
Elk Grove.
I'm too short to reach up.
We can accommodate that.
There you are.
Okay.
Well, um, Board of Supervisors.
My name is Sandra Bettencourt.
I'm the president of the Ben Alley Community Association in City Council District 2, Roger Dickinson's area, as well as the president of the Sacramento Horseman's Association.
And I'm here to offer profound support for both Sheriff Cooper and his entire team and Tin Ho for his entire team.
Any reduction to public service, this police service or the district attorney's efforts would be horrible to us in the area that I represent.
We have, uh, all kinds of things that have been happening.
And thanks to the community prosecution group, we now have a gathering once a month to network as to how we're going to go ahead and tackle problems in cooperation with hot pop and the community prosecution group.
So I, I really want to urge you to please don't use public safety as the mechanism to reduce the budget costs.
But now I'm going to speak to you as Sandra Bettencourt, Caitlin Bettencourt's grandmother.
And, on May 4th, 2014, we received the horrific news that our granddaughter had taken her own life.
And she was a, an IB student at Mariloma High School.
And I had to go to Mariloma on the 5th of May to meet with counselors.
And I met with Chaplain Norm Powell.
The chaplaincy that serves the schools is of the utmost concern.
Norm took me into a room where I met with about 35 of Caitlin's friends who couldn't understand, nor could we, what had happened and why it had happened.
And the chaplaincy carried the Bettencourt family through to make things better.
I understand that they're facing some financial issues right now.
And I would ask you, please, to restore $40,000 to that effort.
I don't want anybody to have to experience what we experienced.
It was horrific.
It still is.
Eleven years doesn't make a difference.
But please, continue that so that anybody that goes through this won't have.
A worse experience.
Thank you.
Thanks, Sandra.
Good afternoon, Supervisors.
My name is Randall Hom.
I live in District 3.
And I have business interests in both District 2 and District 1.
I'm here today as a small business owner and a realtor who is deeply concerned about the proposed cuts to public safety,
specifically the sheriff's department and the district attorney's office.
For years I've struggled with ongoing issues around encampments and trespassing at my places of business and on properties that I control.
On a near daily basis, I'm forced to either personally handle or pay private vendors to remove tents, trash, and individuals who treat my private property as a bathroom.
I deal with illegal campfires, water theft, broken windows, graffiti, and large-scale debris cleanup.
Sadly, this has become the norm.
It's not unusual for my monthly water bills to reach $500 or $1,000 due to unauthorized use.
Sometimes that's on a vacant building.
I've paid thousands of dollars to replace plate glass windows knowing I can't risk filing an insurance claim because I will likely get my insurance canceled.
That's not just a cost of business.
It's a burden that's unreasonable and it's unsustainable.
And just when it feels like we're finally gaining some ground, thanks to the increased efforts by law enforcement and a very proactive DA's office, this budget proposed cuts to those very departments.
That's incredibly disheartening to me.
As someone who has spent years being told to be patient, I can say with confidence, now is not the time to pull back.
We need to build on the momentum that's finally making a difference.
I urge you to reconsider and restore funding to the sheriff's department and the DA's office.
Public safety is not optional.
It's essential to every resident, property owner, and business just trying to survive.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
My name is Sean Worth.
I'm the conservation chair for the Motherlode Chapter of the Sierra Club.
But more pertinent to today's discussion, I've been on the stakeholder committee for the Mather Vernal Pool Preserve since it was set up by Supervisor Natoli when he was sitting in Supervisor Hume's seat.
And I just want to sound a note of caution today with the cutting of the full-time position for the person who's supposed to be doing the management of the Vernal Pool Preserve there.
And I want to remind you of a couple things quickly.
One is that the county is legally responsible for the management of that preserve.
You guys signed an agreement with the federal government.
And number two, there's a runaway weed problem there.
Invasive weeds are just doing an enormous amount of damage.
We need to consistently knock that back.
And if we don't do that, costs are going to go up.
And I want to take advantage of the rather humorous but also very useful metaphor that Supervisor Serna brought up of this uncle, the rich uncle.
The rich uncle gave the county.
I already regret it.
Yeah.
I think this is going to save a bunch of time though.
This rich uncle offered the county a beautiful house.
And he said, this beautiful house is a gift to you.
But there's a problem with this beautiful house.
And that beautiful house has to be maintained by you.
It's your legal responsibility to maintain it.
And it's got a second problem.
It's got a bad termite problem.
You can't get rid of it.
But to make this easier for you, I'm going to give you the house next door.
And you can sell that house and with that money you can pay for the problem.
The house has been sold.
The problem is still there.
We've got to keep on top of that problem.
Now we have our house budget for the year.
And we don't have the termite company coming in because we don't have a land manager anymore.
And we've got to decide, are we going to pay somebody to continue fighting that termite problem?
Or are we going to let it go and let the damage accrue?
We're responsible for the damage going forward.
We need to pay the small sums every year to keep that in check or we pay for the future.
So budgets, it's about trying to make things balanced.
And part of making things balanced is don't take a cost savings now and have it cost more in the future.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Sherri Skelly Griffith.
Good afternoon, board members.
My name is Sherri Skelly Griffith.
I serve as the vice chair of the Sacramento County Children's Coalition.
Our annual budget letter contains a number of recommendations, but I'd like to just focus on three today.
First, we would ask the board to reject the elimination of the child abuse reporter training contract with CAPSEE.
Reducing access to comprehensive training will have a direct impact on access to mandated child abuse reporting.
Reducing funding for CAPSEE's ability to offer mandated training may shift how reporter training is delivered across this county.
Secondly, we ask that you reject the proposed elimination of the 2.5 FTE for the county, Sacramento County Office of Education's work.
Thank you.
With the instructional case managers to support the child protective services program.
These 2.5 FTE are currently assisting the educational needs of the county's dependent children and youth.
These positions directly coordinate with DCFAS across multiple locations, including the Sacramento County Welcome Homes, of which you are the board of directors.
SCOE provides the education expertise and works with all school districts within our county.
We're very concerned.
Our most at-risk children and youth who, due to high levels of mobility, transition, and trauma, are at extreme risk of dropping out of school or falling behind.
And lastly, we ask that you support the district attorney's request for $100,000 in funding for the continued implementation and maintenance of the electronic suspected child abuse reporting system known as eSCARS.
eSCARS provides electronic cross-reporting of suspected child abuse to law enforcement.
Our coalition's Child Protective Systems Oversight Committee strongly recommended to continue eSCARS in our 2023 report to you, as well as our 2024 report coming up in just two weeks.
We want to thank you for your dedication to a family, children, and youth-centered budget.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Cutting $1.8 million from the district attorney budget and eliminating six full-time positions is a direct assault on the safety of our communities and the integrity of our justice system.
This proposed defunding will severely cripple the district attorney's ability to prosecute criminals and protect victims.
Fewer staff means overwhelming caseloads directly undermining our public safety.
The district attorney's office must be fully equipped to keep dangerous violent offenders out of our neighborhoods.
Consider the impact of a strong district attorney's office on our daily lives.
Here's three examples.
Ryan Doe is a homeless person and used to live at Government Alley near McKinley Park.
Ryan is infamous for breaking all the windows at the kitchen table store in Alhambra.
He was out of his mind on meth.
He has 20 felony charges for vandalism, assault, arson, and burglary, and three misdemeanors for meth.
It is the reckless, relentless work of the district attorney that has kept him off our streets and out of our parks.
Thomas Doe is homeless and the infamous burglar who shattered all the windows at the good bottle shop on J Street just to steal alcohol.
Thomas has 11 felonies for assault, burglary, vandalism, and meth possession, plus four misdemeanors for meth.
The district attorney's efforts have ensured Thomas Sentinel remains in custody, preventing further harm to our businesses and residents.
Christian Doe is homeless and was arrested for indecent exposure at McKinley Park bus stop.
He assaulted the senior citizen who confronted him.
In 2022, Christian beat a woman at McKinley Park who was putting a child in the car.
Christian has four felonies for assault and property destruction, four misdemeanors for lewd and decent exposure.
The district attorney's office has been critical in managing such complex cases and ensuring public safety.
These are not isolated incidents.
They represent a pattern of persistent criminal behavior that only a fully funded district attorney's office can effectively address.
We must support public safety and law enforcement.
Stop these dangerous cuts to the district attorney's office.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon, board.
We're six hours into this meeting and I just appreciate all of your listening to all the testimony that you've heard so far.
I'm Randy Smith.
I'm in District 3.
I'm one of the many volunteers with River City Waterway Alliance and I appreciate what they have been doing for this county, for the residents of this county and cleaning up our waterways with the support of the sheriff homeless outreach team, with the support of the district attorney and with the support of our county parks.
And I just hope you can keep some funds available to keep the wonderful work that they're all doing.
And you're getting a lot more with all the volunteer work that is helping them.
So thank you for what you're doing.
Thanks Randy.
Hello, I'm Mary Murray.
I'm a resident of unincorporated Sacramento County and I'm here to support SPLASH and funding the investigating Vernal Pools science education.
So I've been hearing a lot about brokenness and broken people and fixing broken people and I think kids need a sense of hope for the future and a sense of wonder and SPLASH's Vernal Pools experiences provides hope and wonder, especially for the students they serve.
And SPLASH connects kids up close with nature and introduce them to fascinating resilient ecosystems all in Sacramento County where they live.
They get to see a water habitat with all the critters it supports in the way that it should with clean water with a food web that is incredibly complex.
They get to see a landscape that hasn't changed in tens of thousands of years.
They get to see pools filled with little creatures, some of them described as living fossils.
Crustaceans like shrimp in the ocean living in the Sacramento Valley far from the sea.
Resilient creatures like spadefoot toads with a science fiction existence waiting underground in a state of suspended animation with barely a heartbeat,
but somehow listening for raindrops so they know when the pools have formed.
And the spring flowers making beautiful splashes of colors as they have resiliently for thousands of years with their special pollinator partner bees,
who somehow know when their flowers are blooming.
So our children, our future, they need hope, they need wonder now more than ever.
And Sacramento County has a precious resource available to teach hope and wonder.
I ask the board to continue funding Splash. Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon. I'm Jay Dyer. It's good to see you. You've had a long day.
You've got some tough decisions and it's good for you to see me too because whether you know it or not,
every day in our courtrooms, I stand up and I turn around as your face and I try to execute your constitutional mandate to represent the criminally charged,
the indigent criminally charged in this county, your constituents who have been charged with crimes, some of them quite heinous crimes.
And I do that faithfully and I do that in this county and I do that at rates that are far below rates of other counties.
I'll tell you on a personal note, I have not taken my skills and my dedication to other counties.
I'm loyal to Sacramento, but it's been years since we've had a raise in our rates and the work is hard.
The work is demanding. It is physically and emotionally demanding and sometimes it can actually be incapacitating.
So I have a lot of dedicated colleagues. I am dedicated to your mission and I'm dedicated to Sacramento's citizens.
And I also know that you wouldn't be here today if you didn't know.
I'm not going to talk with you about constitutional mandate, about the importance of a constitutional and robust and vigorous defense,
but you wouldn't be here if you didn't know how important that was.
Because without the robust criminal defense lawyer, your criminal justice system just doesn't work.
And I know I'm listening to other speakers talking about cuts to the DA who is politically powerful
and cuts to the sheriff's budget who is also politically powerful and you're not speaking to a contingent.
The conflict criminal defenders are not politically powerful.
We are sole attorneys standing up against the notion that someone can be ambushed and brought into trial by the government.
We make sure that doesn't happen. We stand on a line that moves back and forward a little bit every day.
And we do our best to make sure that that line stays firm enough to protect your rights.
Because if the criminally charged are not protected in their constitutional rights, none of us are.
So I'm going to ask you to approve that $12.
I know your recommendation is the $6. Appreciate that.
But to be commensurate, to be fair, it should be $12.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Iknown Sean Palmer.
I guess we're going to step in.
There's no Sean Palmer.
So I'm Chaplain Norman, Chaplain Martina from the law enforcement chaplaincy.
Sean's not here?
No?
Okay.
Oh, well, we get four minutes then, right?
Anyway, thanks y'all for being here.
I appreciate y'all.
Chaplain Norman, Chaplain Martina, the law enforcement chaplaincy of Sacramento.
We've been serving the community and we know many of you for over 50, almost 50 years.
And we're trauma care chaplains.
We're constitutional, not congregational, which means that we are there for people of faith,
or whether they don't have faith.
We're still there to help them with the trauma they experience.
One of the main things we do besides serving our community and the law enforcement agencies
and your loved ones is it works schools.
The second highest number of calls we get is for schools.
As you heard from Ms. Bettencourt, we had last year nine suicides in our high schools.
We've had one 14-year-old this year.
We had 13-year-olds attempted.
Well, we are central with trauma care chaplains and we work with death, unfortunately.
That's something that the counselors, therapists, social workers, they're more behavioral specialists.
We commend as people that help with that issue of death.
And we help the people understand what's happening and what they can do about it.
And we've been doing that for almost 20 years now in our schools.
We started with a grant many years ago and it changed into a contract.
And obviously with all the eliminations, fortunately with all the billions and millions of dollars out here,
we're 40,000.
But since we're a nonprofit and we work with a very small yearly budget,
that makes a bit of a difference for us and our response.
I mean, if you think about those three little girls who were killed by their father,
then he killed the caretaker and himself a few years ago.
I was at the insulin command center.
From there I called my contact at Natomas and said,
heads up, Earl, you're going to have a mess tomorrow at the schools.
Well, we showed up the next day at the school at 730 at both schools and it was out of control.
I mean, the counselors, the teachers, everybody was,
but you know what we tried to do is we came in and help them understand what they were going through
and help them through it.
Went to the vigil, went to, you know, next couple of days we were there.
That's just a touch of what we've been doing for years.
Over 2,000 calls in the last year for schools alone.
And we never have charged them a cent.
So we hope that you will reconsider that $40,000,
that little bit that we are asking for now and look forward to working with you.
And we're here for you too.
Appreciate all you do.
It's been a long day for you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
My name is Richard Oloriggi.
I come before you both as a proud resident of District 3,
and I thank Supervisor Desmond for stepping back in now so that I could say thank you to him,
as well as a member of the Conflict Criminal Defense Panel.
Over the past few years I've come to know some of you personally, others professionally, and I know that all of you value public service.
Many people who have come before you today to speak also value public service.
And I recognize that as the Conflict Criminal Defense Panel we are somewhat of an outlier in that we are actually one of the few ones that are increased in terms of the budget recommendation.
And I thank the county executive and his team for making those hard decisions.
I ask the Board of Supervisors to endorse that decision that they've made and approve that rate.
I ask you to do this because yes, even though people often view criminal defense attorneys as the lowest common denominator in the law enforcement system,
we are a part of it nonetheless.
And I thank the chair for his comments earlier with respect to the constitutional duty that we uphold.
We often step in when nobody else will. As the county executive in their notes mentioned, we stepped forward last year as the county conflict defense panel to fill in the void when the public defender and the DA were at an impasse with this board.
We picked up the slack that the public defender was not handling and we did it without any hoopla.
We did it without standing on corners shouting out of microphones.
We did it without marching through this facility going up and down stairs and causing disruptions.
We served our community and we will continue to serve our community.
We simply ask that the appropriate and fair compensation be given to us.
We have not received a raise in over seven years, yet we do not try to hold the county hostage but rather continue to do our job and seek that raise in a peaceful and professional manner.
I hope that you respect that bias and reward it by approving the proposed budget increase.
I finally want to mention that although there is obviously concerns with increasing the budget here, I want to echo Ms. Benson's sentiment earlier and ask that the board not take away the money that was proposed for CCD to try to fill the gap for either the public defender or for the district attorney's office but recognize that we have deserved that.
And we have earned the recommendation by the county executive.
If I may have just one final moment, I want to address one thing with respect to the district attorney's office.
I hope that neither district attorney Ho nor this board chooses to politicize the amount of money that is given to either the district attorney, the sheriff, the public defender or the CCD panel.
Thank you.
I respect what the community supervisors do and they work very hard.
They work for me and against me and I appreciate them and they deserve to be funded.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon, Chair and Board of Supervisors.
Jameson Parker with the Midtown Association.
We're a property-based improvement district in Midtown representing over 1,300 properties with the mission of making Midtown the center of cultural creativity and vibrancy in our urban core.
I just want to first thank you all for your time today and the work that you do to pass a balanced budget.
I know how difficult that can be for all of the leaders here in this room and extended into the county, especially in the economic environment that we currently are in.
Our businesses and property owners tell us time and time again that their number one issue is around public safety.
When crime and vandalism go unchecked, that negative impact ripples.
That crime extends, vandalism goes up, business struggle to stay open, buildings stay vacant, and our economy suffers.
Because of this, this is the most important service that our PBID offers is our Clean and Safe Program.
From anywhere from addressing vandalism and graffiti removal to addressing illegal encampments to trespassing.
Since 2021, our demands for services have more than doubled.
At this day, we service the district with over 11,000 calls for service for our Clean and Safe Program on an annual basis.
And they're not slowing down. These are continuing to escalate.
In the last several years, we've seen a great amount of progress from the state, the county, and the city.
As it relates to address public safety in our environment and enforcement in our communities, this extends to the passage of Proposition 36.
This is a pivotal moment that we're in as a region, which funding will dictate the trajectory of our future.
Midtown's economic recovery, as well as Sacramento's broader vitality, will really rely on our ability to create an environment where small businesses are able to succeed without facing daily crimes and property damage.
We thank you for your prioritizing of public safety and urge you to continue to do so in this budget and our future budget cycles.
And continuing the investment of staffing and the programs that support that.
Thank you for your time.
Thank you.
.
Is Ms. Hearing here? Angela? Angela?
Okay.
We will go to Tani.
Is Tani here?
Okay.
We will go to Jeanette.
Good afternoon, Chair, Vice Chair, and Board members.
My name is Jeanette Carpenter.
I'm here on behalf of Child Action Incorporated.
CAI serves 17,000 children and their 9,000 families in Sacramento County.
Our mission is to empower families and childcare professionals with the tools and support services they need to successfully care for children in Sacramento County.
We appreciate your continued commitment to prioritizing the needs of children, our community's most vulnerable residents and their families.
We also appreciate you supporting our resolution and making that commitment to prioritize childcare in Sacramento County.
We have one comment.
We are opposing the cut to the mandated reporter training.
We also align our comments with the Sacramento Children's Coalition.
And we are opposing it because the reduction in funding will have an impact on access to that mandated reporter training.
And it can put a strain on the Child Abuse Prevention Center ability to their comprehensive professional training.
Additionally, this could have an impact on our childcare providers.
Once again, thank you so much for your time.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon, County Board of Supervisors.
My name is Carmen Butler.
I'm a private attorney here in Sacramento County where I've practiced for over 32 years.
I'm a resident of District 1 for over 24 years.
I'm commenting on the budget as it relates to the request for an increase for the budget of the conflict criminal defenders.
I'm a private attorney, but I'm also a conflict criminal defender and take court appointed cases.
Thank you so much for the job, my big family on that.
And I'm a British besonders department in We augmente for those accused of crime.
Our clients are also members of this community, many of whom work but do not make enough income in order to afford an attorney.
attorneys until they need one. And most people think they will never need one. Or they don't
think of us until it's their son, their daughter, their cousin, their father, who has been accused
of a crime. We, as defense lawyers, attempt to keep the process fair and just. We try to reach
the ideals of our United States Constitution. I'm hopeful that me speaking before the board
allows you to put a face to the attorneys or one of the attorneys that this specific budget
affects. My office is in the downtown area and has been for over 20 years. I reside in the Thomas Park
area. Myself and my fellow Brethren attorneys who contract with the Conflict Criminal Defense
Panel are paid substantially less than other attorneys performing the same work in counties
similar in size and in population to Sacramento County. This results in the Conflict Criminal
Defense Panel losing attorneys and investigators who decide to go to agencies or other counties,
agencies such as the federal panel, that pay more. CCD has not had a pay increase since
the fiscal year 2018-2019. Conflict Criminal Defense attorneys are as valuable to the county
as the district attorneys and the public defenders. The justice system would not be effective without
our presence. I ask that the board approve the CCD's director's request for the increase to the budget.
It is.
Can you please conclude, Ms. Butler?
I'm sorry?
Can you please conclude? You're well over your two minutes.
I went over two minutes?
Yeah.
My apologies. The one last thing that I wanted to say was in regards to the May's consent decree,
that is not just a set of inmates who were requesting some medical care.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hello, everyone. My name is Chanel Patterson. I am the supervisor of the Juvenile Response Team
Court and I'm here to advocate to ensure that we keep budget for this specialized court.
So restorative justice programs like Foster Hope's Juvenile Trauma Response Court are not just services
that are lifelines. They bend quietly and powerfully reducing recidivism by taking tailored youth-centered
approach to healing, meeting each youth and young person where they are with compassion, consistency,
and care. Take Lily, for example, a pregnant teen navigating the heavy weight of undressed trauma
and severe mental illness. The pain she carried was so deep, it took her voice literally.
Lily became mute, unable to express her needs, her fears, or her hopes. Without the intervention
of Foster Hope's trauma response team, she would have faced labor and delivery in complete silence,
in isolation, voiceless, alone, and afraid. But the program changed her trajectory. Through one-on-one support,
trauma-informed therapy, and relentless advocacy, Lily was surrounded by people, her defense team,
that didn't just speak for her. They empowered her to speak again. They held space for her healing
and helped her reclaim her voice in one of the most vulnerable moments of her life.
This is what the Juvenile Trauma Response Court makes possible. It treats young people not as cases,
but as human beings, full of complexity, pain, and potential. It understands that accountability and healing
are not mutually exclusive, and that true public safety begins with care. Please continue to fund
the Juvenile Trauma Response Court. It's not just a program, it's an essential lifeline for our most resilient youth.
They are not broken, they are burdened. With the right support, they rise. Let's choose restoration
over punishment. Let's protect the pathways to hope. Let's stand with the youth like Lily,
and make sure they never feel alone, never silenced, and never forgotten. Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon, honorable supervisors. My name is Sam Greenlee, and I'm here today as the executive
director of Alchemist Community Development Corporation to ask that you allocate $250,000
to fully fund high-quality CalFresh EBT access at 13 certified farmers markets across the county.
I'm not just speaking for Alchemist, though. I'm also here on behalf of 280 local farms and small
businesses who sell at local farmers markets, and the many thousands of food insecure Sacramento
County residents who depend on the program to feed their families. They couldn't be here today because
they can't afford to step away from tending their farms, working their second jobs, caring for their relatives.
In 2024, the program was available at nine local markets and facilitated $1.44 million in EBT and
market match incentives spent by Sacramento County residents on locally grown farm products.
These purchases represent nearly 6 million servings of fresh fruits and vegetables. They represent $2.7
million in local economic activity. They represent the difference for local family farms between a
profitable year and the closure of their farm. They represent improved public health and reduced strain
on food banks. It's rare to find a program that delivers such a substantial return on investment.
The CalFresh at farmers markets does just that. The county's investment in this long proven program
will provide the programmatic support needed to allow state and federal dollars to flow into the grocery
bags of low-income Sacramento families and the wallets of our local farms. I appreciate your consideration and
ask for your support. Thank you. Thank you.
Good afternoon, supervisors. I am honored to wear a lot of hats and work at the grassroots and at the treetops
with good people throughout this county. Today I speak on behalf of Foster Hope Sacramento. Each year,
you as supervisors have an opportunity to see the macro view of the budget, to assess which departments
are performing work that is impactful and helpful to the quality of life for Sacramentans. Every department's
leader is going to vie for the department's needs and say they are helpful. We all want to be
proud of our work. We all want to be safe and I commend the directors for their hard work
their team they and their teams perform. The difficult job for you supervisors is to balance
the need for county administrators to be seen by county staff and the public as making fair decisions while
truly challenging and questioning which departments actually sustain systems that evidence shows can cause
public harm and county liability at the expense of investing in systems of help and sustain public safety
through the quality of life improvement before tragedy occurs. Too often decisions are made based on fear
response or status quo or efficiency and not effectiveness. Today I ask for your courage.
Exercise your voice for the people and restore prevention services like the juvenile trauma response court.
$311,000 for 40 to 80 youth per year that has proven to save lives. Recognize who is impacted by our decisions.
Around 70% of people in our jail were system impacted children.
Two-thirds of our jail population need long-term mental health support. Many of them have families and need housing.
Studying the needs of these people who are arrested and confined as adults shows where we have failed them
and where prevention priorities lie. I'm almost done. Those priorities are not enforcing laws after the fact and jailing people.
That's too late. They are investing in people's needs to prevent unhealthy and predictable responses.
You are in a position to model what caring for one another looks like and for those who can't adequately care for themselves,
we must care for them. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I'm going to stand with my youth.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm here.
Oh, thank you.
I'm Tyler and I'm here to ask you to restore the juvenile trauma response court.
They have done many things for me such as help keeping me out of trouble,
through promoting positive change, for example, motivating me to go to school,
and motivating me to make positive and reasonable decisions and actions, motivating me to stay out of YDF.
They're also helping me meet my legal requirements for probation such as from such as community service
and AOD classes and AOD classes, which I heard are pretty good here.
They also have a great support system that...
Hold on a second.
...
and motivating me to go to higher education.
Also motivating me to use my time positively.
For example, motivating me to get a job
and take a summer course for college.
So with that being said, please restore
the juvenile trauma response court.
Great. Thank you.
Good afternoon, Chamber, Chair, Supervisors.
I'd like to thank Mr. Villanueva and Amanda
for the work they've done.
It was a great presentation earlier.
My name is John Hoffman.
I'm a co-founder and current president
of the Greater Arden Chamber of Commerce,
serving businesses of the Arden Arcade community,
which lies solely and wholly within District 3
and Supervisor Desmond's district.
And I want to thank him specifically
for all the help you've provided.
As a president of a chamber, I speak with many business owners.
Previously, I've worked with National Federation
of Independent Business, National Right Your Congressman,
in which I work all day, every day, speaking with business owners.
And I can tell you quite honestly and easily
that one of the major challenges for all of them
is the crime and public safety for their districts, for their areas.
And many of them are at their limit.
They just can't take it anymore.
But with passage of Proposition 36, we're heading in the right direction.
And I can tell you that without businesses, without jobs,
we're not going to have the taxes, we're not going to have the sales taxes,
we're not going to have the income tax to fund many of the other projects
that we're trying to fund today.
As difficult as it is, and I do appreciate your work, Mr. Villanueva,
as difficult as it is, we need to support our sheriff and district attorney.
I've also been honored to attend many of the business workshops
that are held both in the Howe and Arden area and Auburn and Watt districts.
And I've seen much of the improvements that's done.
I see the passion, the work that's done by all those involved from the Supervisors District,
run primarily by Ron Linthicum, and sheriffs, the hot team, the pop team,
Department of Economics, many of the different people within the district,
the county, who are very passionate about their work and do great work.
I've seen a lot of improvement in my area.
And I want to urge you to find the funding to support both Sheriff Cooper and DA Ho
and keep us going in the right direction.
Thank you very much for all your work.
Thank you.
Good afternoon, County Supervisors.
My name is Nadia Niazi, and I'm the founder of FITRA, a nonprofit and a youth-led social enterprise
that serves system-impacted and vulnerable youth in Sacramento, Sac County, actually.
It also provides, I also serve as a commissioner for the juvenile justice system.
I grew up in Sacramento, and I'm deeply committed in uplifting Sac County's most vulnerable youth,
those aging out of the foster system, court-involved, homeless, exiting juvenile detention,
and disconnected from school and work.
I know one of your top priorities is addressing the homelessness crisis, and I urge you to recognize
that homelessness must be tackled not only through housing but through prevention.
Did you know that nearly 50% of youth who age out of the foster care system become homeless
within just 18 months?
And research shows that a significant portion of our current homeless population has had experience
in the foster care system at some point in our lives.
At FITRA, we work upstream to break that cycle.
We provide structure, mentorship, and most importantly, paid, hands-on job training.
That helps youth build skills, confidence, and purpose.
We provide work because work really works.
I mean, if you're a parent, you understand that giving a young person responsibility, purpose,
and opportunity helps them grow.
Now imagine that same power given to a young person who's never had that chance.
Since 2018, we've served over 250 youth and provided more than 5,000 hours of paid training
and mentorship.
And we're just getting started.
With your support, we can expand our reach, especially in District 5, communities like Elk
Grove, Rancho Cordova, and South Sacramento.
This is a smart, community-rooted solution to youth disconnection, justice involvement, and
homelessness before they escalate.
Thank you for your leadership and for investing in prevention, equity, and Sacramento's next
generation.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Again, if we could have the remaining speakers note the list and line up accordingly behind
the current speaker at the podium.
That would be helpful.
Thank you.
Hello, supervisors.
For a while there, I thought I was number 80, but I'm fortunate.
Thank you for your service.
Supervisor Rodriguez, good to see you again.
I own and operate the Dairy Queen in Orangeville in District 4.
And tomorrow will be my 44th year in owning the store.
That's a lot of peanut-buster parfaits.
I'll tell you that.
A lot of cones, too.
A lot of calories.
10, 15 years ago, I started serving with the glove committee out in Orangeville for the
Greenback Lane in Visions.
And there were cuts to the state program for redevelopment.
And one of the things that our committee had to face was whether or not we were going to
continue to meet or not.
Whether there was a possibility of getting funding for improvements.
And we did.
And we were able to complete a document that was recognized here for improving our street.
I'm here to advocate for the hot and pot programs.
In my time being there at the store, I've seen the street go through ups and downs.
And Ron Lithcombe was walking the streets about 10, 15 years ago looking for support with
the business watch out there.
And at that time, he was trying to get participation.
It's well-participated now.
I've seen the results.
And it works.
And I think that what we get out of those meetings is to amplify the eyes and ears of law enforcement
where we can help direct them.
And it's more proactive.
I think it saves money in the long run.
And it's better than spending money on reactive responses.
And to conclude, I think that as we go ahead and we look forward to the, you know, the
different decisions that have to be made, it appears as though Mr. Cooper and Mr. Ho, they're
not here for them to hear me advocate that they change their minds and allocate based on
what you're saying, Mr. Serna, that, you know, these are their decisions for the budget.
So I have to advocate to you to hopefully change their minds with their decisions that they've
made.
So.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Thanks again.
I don't believe Mr. Hernandez is here.
Is Melinda here?
See here.
All right.
All right.
Do y'all find it hard to hide your lack of integrity?
I know the sheriff and DA does because that's why they depend upon the powers and taxpayer
resources of their elected offices, spending thousands of dollars on these fear-driven
presentations and media propaganda videos to manipulate our public and people into political
advocacy on their behalf.
And I don't blame people here for reacting in fear to these campaigns.
People don't know what they don't know.
People don't know what they don't know.
And most of us are too busy just trying to survive.
But some of you won't know what you don't want to know because some of you are paid to
look the other way and not ask questions.
So I can forgive most of the public today for missing the one slide in the presentation
in this budget that contradicts all these defund claims.
While the county currently spends just 17% of its billion dollars or so in discretionary
costs on community and social services combined, we spend over 72% on law enforcement and the
jail system in this county.
That's just in discretionary resources.
You see, I prefer things, I prefer seeing things for what they are and meeting people
where they're at, which is why I spend so much time studying the data and doing the
math hidden in these hundreds of pages of staff reports.
And here's what I can tell you unequivocally what's in there so far.
Did you know that the sheriff's total budget is currently over 925 million dollars?
That's the combined amount for both general fund and restricted revenues that Cooper currently
has to work with and is set to actually increase this year.
Did you also know that the DA's total budget is set to increase by over 6 million dollars
in total county funds?
That's how much he's recommended to receive in general fund and restricted revenues for
a total budget of over 165 million dollars.
And that's far higher than the 66 million dollars the constitutionally required public defender
and the 13 million dollars of the conflict defenders is recommended for this year.
Did you also know that for the million dollars to hire three more escort deputies to the
sheriff could completely offset and save the $875,000 in cuts for the pretrial services,
juvenile trauma response court, and public defenders expungement records cleaning programs?
And did you also know that the million dollars in cuts to regional parks, including $75,000
in cuts to splash, can be offset-
Can you please wrap up?
I will, absolutely.
I will, absolutely.
By redirecting the million dollars in unnecessary military equipment purchases being requested
by the sheriff and probation's department.
See, I don't expect anybody, and I will finish up, anyone else from the general public to know
this because our county gave us all less than two weeks to review a budget proposal that spans
over 1,067 pages before your vote today.
Thank you.
Melinda?
Shelby?
Good afternoon.
My name is Shelby Alberts, and I am an attorney on the conflict criminal defender panel.
I have been a licensed attorney.
Today marks the first day of my 14th year of practice, and I have been a member of the
panel for 10 years.
CCD comprises the majority of my income.
For instance, me, given the level of experience, the majority of my cases are homicides.
They are very serious.
The CCD attorneys, most of them are solo practitioners.
And what this means is that we bear the cost ourselves to maintain our office.
We pay out of our pocket for our office space.
If we have support staff, that is a cost that we bear, and many of us do not have the luxury
of support staff because we cannot afford it.
We cover all of our own supplies, and if we need to be more than one place at once, we pay
attorneys to cover us.
A day in the life of a solo practitioner on the panel, we have to be several places, and
many days.
We spend at least four hours in court.
We have to see our clients, and so we will do jail visits all the way down at the Branch
Jail in South Elk Grove or here downtown late at night.
We have a 10-hour limit in which we're able to bill for our time every day, and there are
days when we're in trial that we're working 16-hour days.
We truly pour our lives into this job, and our job is incredibly important.
My colleagues have spoken about the importance of the Constitution, but I'd like to mention
a few ways why we are such an important part to ensuring safety in this community.
We're ensuring the members of our community are fairly prosecuted.
We're making sure that the mentally ill have access to treatment.
We're helping the children that aren't making the best decisions in their lives to turn their
lives around.
Keeping experienced attorneys on our panel is incredibly important.
Any attorney in this room will tell you that we all need mentoring, and we all seek mentoring
from someone more experienced than us.
One of the most important things we do, that in these heinous, the most heinous crimes, they
may go to trial.
And if you don't have an experienced attorney defending the accused, their guilty verdict
may not stand.
I am a resident of District 1, and I would like, more than anything, to continue serving my community
here in Sacramento and having that comprise 100% of my income.
So we are asking for a raise.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon, Mark.
Hello, supervisors.
I am Mark Baker, a board member of Sacramento Creek's Council and a founding member of River
City Waterway Alliance.
Most of you know me from my work cleaning the American River Parkway and from coming before
you in the past to plead for help for addressing the tragedy unfolding along our beautiful, wild
and scenic river.
You might remember the gallons of needles that I brought and the infamous honey bucket
that I brought to this meeting as tangible evidence of the crisis we faced.
Since then, a miracle has happened.
Many of the camps are gone, and so is much of the trash that once overwhelmed our riverbanks.
For the past five years, I have had the privilege of leading River City Waterway Alliance, and
before that, Sacramento picks it up volunteers and hundreds of cleanups.
With support of the county parks maintenance crews, we have removed hundreds of tons of trash
and restored the beauty and safety of this vital natural resource.
But today, I come with a warning.
The cuts that you are planning to make on these essential services will be a huge setback
for us.
Our progress is fragile.
Without adequate resources and continued support, the river will quickly fall back
into neglect, endangering public health, wildlife, and quality of life for Sacramentoans.
Investing in cleanups and maintenance efforts is not just about keeping the river beautiful.
It's about protecting treasured community assets and preserving our environment for future generations.
Thank you for your time and dedication to our community.
Thanks, Mark.
Hello.
My name is Alexandria Wilson, and I am an organizer with Decarcerate Sacramento.
First, I just want to echo the fact that the DA and the sheriff are both receiving budget
increases, not cuts in this recommended budget, which feels like a fact that's been lost in
translation today.
I haven't read the entire budget because no average person could read 1,000 pages in the
time that the county provided, which I believe is a huge problem in and of itself.
The public should have been given time to review this budget and provide feedback, as they
are the people it will impact.
It won't impact us all equally, though.
Most of the cuts involved will most directly and severely impact the most vulnerable among
us, including those who rely on cash assistance programs and services offered by the Department
of Social Services and the Public Defenders Pretrial Services Program, which, according to
data from 2023, the most recent I could find, had by that time connected about 1,000 people
to mental health services, over 600 substance use support services, and almost 600 people with
housing.
I can venture to guess those numbers have grown significantly in the two years since.
What this budget does find room for, however, is $20 million for a jail construction reserve
fund, which the board has been recommended to prioritize overfunding county road maintenance,
and I suppose indirectly those aforementioned services this budget seeks to reduce funding
to.
This budget is plainly not in the public interest.
Supervisor Hume, earlier you said we need to prioritize keeping the lights on and food on the
table, but for who?
We're in a shelter crisis.
And so, so many of us live paycheck to paycheck and could have our lives upended by one emergency,
and yet our county is proposing that we prioritize funding for jail construction, which, by the
way, would be on top of the $13 million that was allocated in 2021 for ADA renovations to
the main jail, instead of putting money into things that keep people in housing or help them
acquire it.
This budget makes sure they can be arrested once they lose that housing.
Instead of funding non-carceral community-based mental health services, this budget seeks
to make it even harder for people to receive care once they've been criminalized and arrested
for having a mental health crisis.
Please delay a vote.
Carefully consider who this budget serves, make the necessary modifications, and leave time
for public feedback.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hello, everyone.
Good afternoon.
My name is Christopher Camilo Carvajal Carvajal, and I'm an appointed member of the Public Safety
and Justice Agency Advisory Committee, PISJAC for short.
I didn't make that name up.
That program campaign coordinator for DeCarsway Sacramento and a resident for District 1.
I want to begin with a real example from inside the jail.
A person I spoke with recently waited six months to get boot fluid buildup removed from
their thigh.
That's six months of pain and neglect for something any of us will get treated immediately.
And that isn't a delay.
This isn't rare.
It's a routine.
It has nothing to do with the building itself.
It's the result of the sheriff's staff and the culture they uphold.
When I toured the jails recently as a member of PISJAC, I saw the culture firsthand, a system
marked by dehumanization.
And when I raised alternatives like investing in care and prevention, I was told that it
was just a philosophical difference.
But this budget isn't philosophy.
It's policy.
And your policy decisions will either deepen harm or try to path toward actual safety and
health.
This budget proposes cutting vital services while increasing net funding for the sheriff, the
district attorney, and setting aside $20 million for jail construction, even though the public
has already rejected jail expansion three times since 2019.
And the sheriff is still sitting on $13 million in unused ADA funds from years ago.
This isn't just wasteful.
It's undemocratic.
Earlier, Sheriff Cooper implied that ACH is overfunded, burdensome, and that providing medical
services to those he incarcerates diverse deputies away from other obligations within the jail.
I want to ask you, supervisors, those in the room, those watching online, is providing
health care and dignity to people really a waste?
Is it not the legal obligation of the sheriff's department and the county?
Furthermore, this budget slashes funding to the Public Defenders Pretrial Service Program,
human assistance payments, and other essential supports while providing inadequate funding
to the Conflict Criminal Defenders Office.
Earlier today, someone said the county should be building up its reserves.
Then why are we building a $20 million reserve for a jail while cutting and not funding programs
at work?
Lastly, it was said earlier that the county can't control how sheriff or DA spend their
budgets, but you do have control how much funding they get, and that's where your responsibility
lies.
Instead of investing what actually keeps people safe, housing, care, and community support,
this budget chooses to fund incarceration over the various services that would reduce our
reliance on jails, cops, and punishment in the first place.
In closing, reject the $20 million jail reserve, fund community services, not the carceral system.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
My name is Pamela Elliott.
I'm an attorney, and I'm on the Conflict Criminal Defenders panel.
Oh, sorry.
I also live in the First District.
Most people don't know what it is we do.
When the Public Defender's Office has a conflict, it gets assigned out to an attorney on the panel.
But we don't only do the conflicts.
We also get assigned when the Public Defender determines that they have too large of a caseload.
So it all comes to us.
We love what we do.
We're also small business owners.
So we have to have an office.
Most of us can't afford a secretary or an assistant, file clerk.
So we do those tasks on our own.
We can't bill for those.
We only can bill for attorney tasks.
We bill by a tenth of the hour.
We account for every minute of our time.
We're asking for a $12 hour raise.
Just to put us commensurate with other counties.
We are losing good attorneys to places like Stockton, who pay, I think it's a 40% increase of what we have.
We're losing good attorneys who have to support their families.
With the meager amount we get, we have to pay for office space.
We have to pay for our supplies.
We have to gas.
And now with, on the other side of the street, we have the city increasing our parking.
So we still have that expense going up.
We have not had a pay increase since the 2018-2019 fiscal year.
A $6 raise will not give us parity with other counties.
That could, depending on appeals, if somebody brings that up in appeal that they didn't have a competent attorney because the pay rate was too low,
that's going to be a cost on the county as well.
And, yeah, there's all other counties pay more.
Alameda, Contra Costa, San Joaquin, Placer, El Dorado.
We also contribute to this community.
We go to lunch here.
We buy things here.
When we're down here, this is where we are.
So we're contributing to the other parts of the community.
I request that you approve the $12 an hour raise.
Thank you.
Mr. Chair, I don't want to jump in the queue.
Ms. Elliott?
Ms. Elliott?
Yes.
Through the chair, is that okay?
Sure.
I just wanted to make a, help you make, have you helped me make a point here?
Okay.
Because conflict is a term of art.
Up here, it means something very different than in your world.
So you talked about the fact that the panel provides services when the public defender is overloaded.
But just real briefly explain what type of conflict it is that you're talking about.
Because I think it would illustrate how it's a more common need than what some people might think.
Yes.
When the public defender's office, when they have co-defendants, they can only represent one.
When they have represented a victim or somebody before, and then their interests are adverse to a witness or another co-defendant, they cannot take those cases.
So we take all of those, plus we take the overload, just like when they were having a strike.
We took a number of cases in order to assist with that.
Thank you.
Oh, and one more other thing.
As a small business owner, we do not get retirement.
We do not have benefits.
Okay, now you're overstepping your questions.
I just wanted to take that one point.
Thank you very much.
Okay, thank you.
Good afternoon.
My name is Benjamin Scarborough.
Can you speak between the microphones, please?
My name is Benjamin Scarborough.
I'm a resident of District 1.
I appreciate the supervisor's time and effort.
Can you speak between the microphones, please?
No, no.
Between the microphones.
Between them.
Okay.
There you go.
District 1.
I'm a resident of District 1.
My name is Benjamin Scarborough, and I want to thank you for your dedication as supervisors.
This is not a selfish request.
The point has already been made.
2018 was the last time we had a raise.
Since then, we've had inflation.
Cost of living's gone up.
Housing's gone up.
Everything's gone up.
I'm sure you're all aware of that.
Regarding other counties, $6 an hour would put us on par with Placer County, which is a county of a population of 430,000 people.
Sacramento has 1.5 million people.
Our attorneys have a much larger caseload and are in court more hours per day than the attorneys in Placer County.
Regarding the $12 an hour increase, that would put us on par with Solano County and El Dorado County.
Both counties, again, their population is significantly smaller than this county.
Solano was 500,000.
El Dorado, 190,000.
So San Joaquin is a county I believe still smaller, but they make $38 more an hour.
The federal system is $100 more an hour.
Contra Costa County is a county of comparable size, 1.5 million people.
They make $100 more an hour than we make.
Same thing with Alameda County, 1.6 million.
They make $100 more.
So, again, I don't want to reiterate everything else I said, but it's a very modest request.
And given the cost of increase of everything as well as our costs, again, we pay our own practice insurance, our own health insurance.
We get no retirement.
We get no paid vacations.
We pay for our own office.
With that, let's move that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hello.
I'm Mika Popovich-Hossler.
I'm a college student and a resident of District 3, but here to speak on behalf of Decarcerate Sacramento,
because I was frankly horrified to find the $20 million allocated to jail construction set aside in the budget.
I know we've heard community members here today speak about concerns about other community members experiencing mental health struggles
and causing challenges to the safety of others,
but I'm firm in the stance that constructing a new or expanding the current jail will not cost-effectively
or effectively at all really address this issue of mental health leading to crime.
It's arrest diversion programs we need that meet people where they're at,
like many of these juvenile justice advocates have spoken to,
prevent them from ever becoming involved in the carceral system,
because these jails are just re-traumatizing people.
They're denying them the care they need and producing an issue of recidivism
that you are all seeking to combat with this jail expansion.
Further, jail construction will also not meaningfully bring the county into compliance with the May's consent decree.
The construction-related parts of that decree are quite minuscule in comparison to the reforms that could be made,
to how the booking process works, for example,
and population reduction is also a major ask of that decree.
Programs which divert people from being arrested in the first place are population reduction plans,
and so I do wish to see more funding for those from this body,
rather than money set aside for construction,
which is, again, a cost-ineffective way to address crime in Sacramento County.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
This board created the jail system planning and oversight committee, JPC,
to guide the May's compliance process with accountability.
Has that committee submitted a plan that justifies reserving these funds?
Has the public been invited to weigh in on that plan?
This is all the more concerning when we consider that the vast majority of individuals incarcerated
in Sacramento County jails have not yet had a criminal trial,
that this budget proposes to widen the funding gap between prosecution and public defense.
That's a total of 20 million dollars.
And conflict criminal defenders combined have a total of 20 million dollars less than the district attorney's office.
That is the largest gap since 2021.
That is the largest gap since 2021.
And includes cuts to community-based programs like the juvenile trial trauma response court and pretrial services.
There's a lot for this board to think about, but also a lot for us, your constituents, to think about and say,
which is why delaying this vote to allow more public deliberation and participation is the only path forward.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Russ Wyatt?
Good afternoon.
My name is Russ Wyatt.
I'm a resident of District 1 as well as an attorney on the conflict criminal defenders panel
Ladies and gentlemen of the Board of Supervisors for Sacramento County. The reason I am here is to
Help you understand something you may be losing with this group of attorneys
I've been on the panel now for almost 10 years and
When I first started practicing law, I found that there are two types of attorneys
The type that cares about money and success and their reputation and the type that care about their client and
between those two types
There is a predominance of one type in the panel
These attorneys are not here because they're trying to get rich. They're not here because they want to have some status symbol
They're here because they want a living wage
They're here because they see other counties paying more and they're leaving
You should understand the types of individuals you have currently on the panel and what you stand to lose if they depart
The money you're saving will not be worth the cost in the future to the County of Sacramento
These individuals are selfless. They're courageous. They have heart the panel is made up of almost
100 individual law offices which create a brain trust and help each other
That can only happen if they can afford to live in Sacramento
the cost of living has gone up
But the wage is not I
Will yield the rest of my time to any other member of the panel that wants to add more to this but I implore you
Make this decision carefully. We're not asking for a lot. We're asking for a minimal amount to survive
And to see what inflation may do and with value the rest of my time. Thank you. Thank you
And our final speaker is Peter white
You must be but you must be brothers good afternoon ladies and gentlemen panel of the of the board and you are not seeing two at this time
There's not seen double there are two of us in fact
I
Wanted to share with you a little of my experiences while working for the panel
I have a predominant number of clients who are indigent. I have a countless number of clients who are homeless
I can't tell me people I've had who are drugged drug addicted or mentally ill
I have had clients who are absolutely schizophrenic and without the panel. I don't believe they would have the adequate representation they need
Additionally ladies and gentlemen the panel is a brain trust as my brother may have mentioned I if I have any problem that arises
I can ask any number any member of the panel to help out and chances are I love an answer by the end of the day
I'll have paperwork to go off of I'll have the motion work
Almost completed for me in fact
And I can't tell you how invaluable that is to have those people on my side
While fighting these cases if I can't be in court for some reason whether it be a preliminary hearing
Trial or just personal issues there are attorneys there to stand in for me and to stand up for me the
Bailiffs of the court refer to some people as friends of the court to stand in and I will always stand in for a panel attorney if necessary
Again ladies and gentlemen, I don't want to go into the financials. We've had a few people talk about that
I just want to let you know about my experience personally working for the panel and
About what you may lose if you don't put the budget as I as my brother mentioned
There are people leaving the panel to go to different counties and with that
I will use the rest of my time for any other panel attorney wants to make any statements. Thank you great. Thank you
All right that concludes our very lengthy list of
public speakers and again, I want to thank everyone for your participation in your patience
I think many of you spoke with genuine passion about what's important to you
But what I think you also know is important to our entire community and quite frankly important to each of the five of us and
I don't think it's
I think it's a far stretch to say we don't disagree with probably you know 95% of what you had to say today the real issue is
How do we pay for it right? So that's that's the challenge before us?
I don't think you have any dispute up here about the importance of
again
public safety and just I've said it before I'll say it again
My definition of public safety is a little different than perhaps the next person's but you know public safety for me is
Child welfare as well as law enforcement. It's public health as well as well as the district attorney. So it's a little broader
But I but I again I think that your
Engagement and your willingness to stay here in person for as long as you have and I think we're going on our seventh hour here
really says a lot about the
nature of
our citizenry here and the residents of Sacramento County and how important they know our
budget
decision-making is because you're the ones that are gonna fill it good or bad and so
I do appreciate that I'm gonna take chairs prerogative to
kick us off here in terms of our
Discussion and deliberation and we'll go through what I assume will be a growing list of
Supervisors in the queue to chime in
If I could ask Liz Bellis our parks director to come to the podium, please
And while she's doing that I'll pass out a memo I asked Liz to prepare
the podium, please
I'll pass out a memo.
And our clerk is also putting what I just distributed to my colleagues on the overhead so the public has an opportunity to see what we're looking at
so
In the days leading up to today we all had many briefings with our county
CEO and in fact was sometimes with department heads and his executive team
one of the
items that I've already mentioned and the preamble that preceded public comment
About a sum of five million dollars that had been previously parked in an earlier budget cycle for
impacts to the parkway as it relates to folks that are unsheltered
That those funds have not been expended. They've been
allocated and they've been
set aside
Finding ourselves where we are today
given the nature of our needs
the fact that the parkway continues to be stressed
As many speakers actually noted especially those with the river city waterways and I
Alliance and I want to thank them and all of our
CBOs that are focused on the health of our parkway and its and its use and
enhancement
I think now is the time now is the time that we give it service we the board give it serious consideration in terms of how we allocate
that five million and
given the fact that
we've heard from the sheriff's department and we've heard from
councilmember dickinson in terms of some of the
I would say overlapping and associated needs that I would argue are related to
enhancing the health of the parkway
I have asked liz to tell us about that five million in other words
If it is the will of the board that we finally do specifically allocated this budget cycle
How would you prioritize that?
And so she was good enough to
Provide this memo to me and and also to the county executive which outlines
some of the items that I think could be considered restoration at this point based on what's being
recommended by the
County executive so I will quickly just kind of walk through this
And this correct me if I'm wrong about anything I've said so far and jump in and interrupt me as I oftentimes interrupt you
So first of all
There's a half million in here for contracted support for waterway cleanup
My understanding is that this half million dollar contract is really to manage
the partnership that the county enjoys with various
volunteer groups river city waterways alliance being one of them
So that they can continue the work that they do uninterrupted and I will just say
As someone that represents the lower reach of the american river parkway
Where there is immense stress on it
Every day
That I've seen the great great work that they do I've seen
The tons and tons of debris trash that comes out of the parkway early on a sunday morning and so I just think it's really
Absolutely critical that we don't interrupt that partnership. So that's why that's in here
We have unfortunately been in need of some
restroom repair and discovery park for a number of years
That has to do and I won't go into the gory details, but it has to do with the fact that
things get flushed and
It can do immense damage to the facilities there and then keep the public that wants to enjoy
The parkway to its fullest including being able to use the facilities at times from doing that so I think that's
Absolutely necessary as it is
for similar improvements and
Fortification of those improvements at how and what avenue a little further upstream
In here is also an attempt to
Restore or I guess respond to perhaps a growth a former growth growth request
For a park maintenance worker and the reason that there's a million dollars here that cited is that
We wanted to kind of avoid
When I say we it's based on a discussion I had with our regional parks director wanted to avoid
Getting too deep into a one-time
Amount for not what we know will be an ongoing
Personnel cost so what this attempts to do is make a rough
Estimation of what that would cost us for a decade so 100,000 times 10
Now our parks director did
Kind of come to the balance of that five million by way of suggesting a million and a half for
Wildfire restoration and that's certainly very very important
I know no doubt about it and we still we do that we do do that just because this is now showing
Being shown as crossed off doesn't mean that we wouldn't be doing it we just wouldn't be able to do more of it
But in light of some of the
public testimony
In light of the sheriff's disposition on hot and pop and I think if I'm reading the tea leaves right what I think
My colleagues think about the importance of hot and pop
What I would suggest and I'm eager to hear from them
Is that we perhaps restore hot and pop
fractionally
For their work and and around the parkway of course they are charged with with working in the unincorporated
County and especially district five has an immense amount of geography in the unincorporated county
but
using
That balance of 15 of 1.5 million out of the total five million
In part to fund hot and pop in the parkway would be one preference of mine
and then secondly again
Hearkening back to the testimony we heard from councilmember dickinson about the interest and need for a community prosecutor in north sacramento
I cannot disagree with anything
He said and some of the folks that he brought brought to the podium including
one of the sac pd's
Police captains that work does work in the in the area
That air that part of our community
Has for too long quite frankly
Been ignored and i'm really really encouraged to see that
But not surprised to see that councilmember dickinson has taken a very
aggressive interest in
Working and partnering with the county to find resources to do a better job of
Providing them what they need to have a safer cleaner
environment and the connection here relative to that particular
Potential community prosecutor is that i will just remind folks that some of the most impacted parts
of not just the parkway
But the lower reach so the wood lake area in particular
Is right there in that part of sacramento so the idea being that the community
The community prosecutor could not only assist with
Demands for their services in and around kind of the adjacent urban parts of north sacramento del paso heights
But also as it relates to impacts affecting the parkway so that that would be
My proposal respectfully to my colleagues to consider
Relative to again that five million that is in the budget
It's been parked there for some time, but I think now is the right time again to
Appropriate those funds accordingly
And
Liz I don't know if you wanted to add anything to that
But I just wanted to bring you to the podium to thank you mostly for
working with my office on
Giving this a lot of thought. I think it's the right thing to do and
I
Would give the floor to you. I
Thank you very much for this time to
To make a brief presentation as you mentioned all these things are very important to the american river parkway
And to keep the momentum going I think the irony is that as
Perhaps the economy softens our regional park system actually
Becomes more of a
place for people to go that they can actually have the respite and the enjoy the natural beauty and so that does
Actually create more of a burden on our parks department
And so when we are also in that place where we're going to perhaps get some cuts
We actually need the money even more
So I thank you for this opportunity to present some thoughts on how we might be able to restore some funding for the parkway great. Thank you, Liz
I
I may have other questions later about other parts of the budget
But we are now going to go down through our list
Mr. Jericho to follow up question sure
Just follow up question about this specifically just some just so I'm clear
Do we know what the mechanics would be in terms of
Using a portion of that 1.5 million for hot and pop on the parkway?
I mean, how would that work has there been a discussion with the
Sheriff's department yet about that and how they would act in support of your rangers?
We have not had a detailed discussion about that yet. No, and then what is the cost of the community prosecutor? Do we know?
What portion of the 1.5 million that would take up?
I
I actually I actually asked that question and it's about
390,000 in half
Yeah, cut in half because it would be 50 per is it full time?
Well, I don't know who's who's mr. Jones
I can
so I don't have an exact number from them
But I do have some information I have been talking to the several cities about their use of community prosecutors city of citrus heights said
um that half of the ft half of a community prosecutor is about a hundred ninety four thousand dollars per year so right around
uh four hundred thousand dollars okay
thanks
all right well
Sure
And and so by only funding half the other half would be funded by the city
And is that typical of other arrangements with cities?
I think what we would do is probably tee it up
First to have that conversation to see if they can match it. I think that's probably the responsible thing to do
um, but you know, I want to um
I want to have some
idea and comfort level that there is
uh in comfort comfort comfort level from the rest of my rest of the board
um that there would be some some skin in the game
so really quick liz I have a question too about um
So this has been in the budget for several years, but now we want to allocate it
Is that it was put into the budget um yes a few years ago
It is not money that is under my control
So it would not be something that I would have been saying
How we would be funding it are using it for funding okay
And so um, why now?
Why why use it now? That's my that's my is that yours? That's my disposition not hers. Okay. Okay. Okay.
All right. Got it
Thank you
All right supervisor rodriguez
Okay, um well, this was incredibly um a really good experience. This is my fifth
Budget under government and I spent the last four years
Um looking at an empty chamber saying why don't people get involved like this is the best part
It is it is the most impactful
And I don't think I'll be saying that with sacramento county, but it was great to see
Um, I just want to give a again and just a shout out to um county exec vianueva and um fiscal
Chief fiscal officer thomas who have um, I think just laid out a bunch of really good information
There's so much to process
But um just some comments that I have for about um this morning and hearing some of the feedback
um
um
Keeping our citizens safe is the number one duty of government and balancing a budget on the backs of those who keep us safe
In my opinion is irresponsible and dangerous
And it will put officers and citizens life in jeopardy
The men and women in the probation district attorney and the sheriff's department are the first line of defense against violence and property loss
I will be voting note to the cuts to public safety
We owe it to our constituents. We owe it to our businesses. We owe it to our communities
Prop 36 sent a very strong message
From california that includes that county that people want public safety as a priority
Just today the speakers alone. We have 41 speakers speak on in support of our public safety
I'm also not interested in stifling any of the departments on what they need to be efficient
And uh, and look at opportunities to increase efficiency and reduce
Costs we had conversations yesterday about the sheriff's department and if the sheriff's department needs apparatus
To do their jobs better. I believe that we should leave that in the hands of of the department
I think my bottom line when it comes to is I just want to ensure that
That people are safe whether they are
individuals who are in the process of committing crimes or our police officers
We are a growing county and I think cuts to public safety at this point would be detrimental
My comments are not a surprise to our county exec and our
CFO these are comments that I have made along the way that
Cuts to public safety is something that I will not be supporting
and
um
distance from my comments for right now
Thank you great. Thank you supervisor supervisor hume
Thank you chair, and uh, first of all, I appreciate the thoughtful like coming to the table with suggestions for the funds
But I want to go start by going full circle all the way back to I don't know how many hours ago
That was in talking about this budget exercise being a velvet rope experience
And the difference between a velvet rope and a metal barrier is a velvet rope can expand out a little bit
It's strung between two stanchions, and so it's not necessarily rigid
So I am going to own at the front end of this the hypocrisy of congratulating staff
For you know being fiscally minded as they approached this budget process to to to correct the structural deficit
While at the same time
I'm going to come back and I'm going to ask for some expenditures of one-time funds
And so that's the first thing that I'd like to to point out relative to the the chair's
Suggestions is is to make sure that for those two items that are in place of the wildfire restoration that we figure out
How that is a one-time fund, but I would like to begin if I may
I hope all of you received the public comments
regarding south county services
Unfortunately in their call for communications
They only put my name out as the source of contact
And so I wanted to make sure that you realize that there was another group that were not here advocating for themselves
and I recognize certainly the exercise that the
Department had went through to identify that they are completely generally fun general fund funded
um and
You know the the problem from where I see it is that many of the folks who are working poor in many of parts of our communities
Uh particularly south sacramento arden folsom boulevard
North and and tomas or del paso
They could throw a stick and hit three cbo's that are stood up to try and help them and assist them
The folks that south county services serve are isolated
Culturally they're isolated geographically
Uh, and they're certainly isolated economically and so um
Um, uh, you know, we're talking about galt
Ielton walnut grove
Um
They provide direct lifeline assistance as well as
Navigational support for those that need assistance on how to find
Help and where to look and so
I would like to to as we go through this discussion to ask
That we take uh 200 000 out of the cbo capacity building
reserve item
Um in order to still provide a cut there
Let them know that that they are weaning off
But but not pull the rug out from underneath them
Uh in in whole part and parcel
Uh, I was also going to ask for uh the restoration for the waterway contract
Um and and out of the same line item, so i'm glad to hear that was suggested
And and then i'm i'm looking to my colleagues relative to splash
I know that this 75 000 doesn't seem like a lot in the scope of the budget
But for their budget it means a lot and they're also facing a pretty significant
um
Change to their entire sort of financial responsibility dynamic relative to the roof on their building
And uh and some of the costs that they're going to have to figure out how to account for going forward
So i'm curious to hear if there's um a decision or or feeling there
But then the the last thing that I I want to touch on is is public safety
And I too have been having pretty um significant conversations with the the county exec and and with our chief fiscal officer
And and and again said if if they need to count nodding heads put me in the yard
That falls in keeping public safety whole and i've been up front about that very early on
And i still hold that position here today
But i've also been having conversations with them and with the sheriff and with the da
How do we kind of bridge this gap or or you know
uh figure something out here and so the da mentioned today that he could put
Savings of about 500 000 on the on the table. I respect that i honor that and i think um if we could look at
That taking um well let me back up
Amanda you and i had been talking about um salary savings and and you feel comfortable that the da's current budget
Underestimates potential salary savings um that as far as what they have historically realized year over year
Looking backwards is that still your position?
Yes
Okay, and so I think if we take the 500 000 that the da put on the table if we pulled 500 000 from the cbo capacity reserves
And then the remainder of about 700 000
It we just uh did a budget exercise to bump up the
projected salary savings from two point
Whatever it is percent to three point something percent or whatever that number would have to be
To the extent you feel comfortable that that's still accurate accuracy in budgeting
Um i've had conversations with the da to to say that i feel comfortable that we're looking at that as being a means to
Keep his budget whole without having to cut those positions
And so that solves that issue and then that would leave the sheriff and and what we want to do there
Um and i would look to my colleagues for ideas and and discussion on that
Okay, I think uh mr. Desmond is prepared to chime in
Thank you supervisor human
Thank you uh, mr. Chair and to uh my colleagues who've spoken already um
Uh i'm supportive mr. Chair also applaud you for bringing this forward obviously
There's some mechanics to work out with that uh with those with those funds and how we use those funds
Um, also had a discussion with with siobhan behind closed doors here a little bit about the cbo
Capacity building money and she assured me that that money that money has not been programmed yet
It is still it's dedicated reserves, but of course this board reserves the
ability to to allocate that for other purposes and um
That's where some of my comments will go
um
I'm i'm also supportive of the river city waterway alliance. Thank you for being here for everything you do in the community
You do tremendous work, uh, of course under this proposal
That is still one-time funding as you know
Um, so I would hope you try to make that last for a while because we don't know where we'd be
Where we'll be next year? Um, certainly
um
And i'm in support of the uh, certainly the the community prosecutor
um
Proposal and I I imagine you know I I supervisor hum mentioned
Can we realize or can we project a little higher amount for salary savings with the da?
And actually wouldn't be as much I think as maybe had initially been discussed if those
other two bodies are
transferred over to a state funded
program
um, but then we'd be adding
A position as a community prosecutor in the city of sacramento correct?
So you'd have to work through that amanda and tell us how that would look I suppose
That's my understanding of everything that's on the table right now
So the the community prosecutor would be adding I believe it would be a principal criminal attorney position
So we're working on getting cost of that
And then my understanding is that there's five hundred thousand dollars of additional revenue that could be considered
To offset net county cost and then I think we would look at
Um, the the difference between the net cost of the positions recommended for reduction and that 500 000 is being what could be
Added in additional salary savings
Okay, I should have said
Supervisor desmond to that
The community prosecutor for the the additional one that is absolutely contingent on a memorandum of understanding
between all parties including
the the da himself county exec probably myself my office and
councilmember dickinson's office that the funds will be used as intended
Can I ask a question on that? Sure
Additionally, it's my understanding in other cities where community prosecutors are utilized that those cities cover the cost of that community prosecutor
At least I know that's the case in elk grove
That's my understanding also that um city of elk grove ranch cordova the downtown sacramento partnership
And then the county has two in our unincorporated area
And and so I guess I would I would go back and I understand we have a funding source
You know at least for one-time monies, but why would we be making an exception?
To fund a community prosecutor within the city of sacramento when all the other cities in the region fund their own yeah, and
and respectfully you know if we go back to
What the council member said in front of us including the public?
I think it was really focused on
And he didn't say it but i'll say it the fact that and there may be differences of opinions about this appear
The fact that our largest city in the county is facing the kind of budget stress that it is
And the fact that there's been over years cumulative
Unaddressed need and one of the poorest parts of our not just
City but our entire region so
Maybe that resonates with folks. Maybe it doesn't but to me it's an urgent need and and one that we're not
Restricted from using the funds so that's why I think it's
important for us to make an informed decision and use those funds as requested
Thank you, and you know, it's it is interesting because I do think we run the risk of other cities coming in and saying well
Why don't you fund ours as well, but I also absolutely appreciate that that del paso heights north north sack area is
Disproportionately impacted by a lot of the challenges we face since I brought it up
I did receive a text message from the council member that's suggested that perhaps
What could happen is we fund it for the first I think he's very interested in it haven't been a service that's extended, right?
Which makes sense you don't you know again. This is not about one-offs one year
Especially when it relates to personnel
I think he's very interested in having having that continue. I am interested in having that continue. I think what
His preference is is that we look at funding the first year and then having them pick up the second year and then moving forward
the city is in the habit of
Funding the community prosecutor for that part of the city may I speak to that or are you going to speak to that supervisor?
No, go ahead
so
cities incorporate because they want to
take care of themselves and
I had a conversation with the city of citrus heights a couple of days ago about a part-time prosecutor
The city of Folsom isn't interested right now because financially they cannot afford it
We have so many areas that could utilize funding
I am not in support of utilizing county funds to fund a position for the city of sacramento
for a position that they should be
paying for themselves and
I I look at all of the
All of the comments today on the needs of
I think that's a lot of splash and the voter registration cuts and the rivers you know the regional parks the juvenile justice
Cal fresh ebt farmers market and
And sat county child care
We have so many needs in our county that I just don't see how we can justify
paying for a position for the city of sacramento when it is something that they should be funding themselves
I get that there are special needs in the and in the city
but the county has so many needs related to
foster kids and
Food and so many other areas that I just cannot wholeheartedly support a position getting paid
When we have social services that are getting cuts
Thank you again the funding source that I've identified
Has a pretty obvious connection to the adjacent parkway
So that's when you're talking about some of those other
Needs I don't disagree that we have those needs
But they're not associated necessarily with the parkway. So that's kind of why I've identified this particular source the way I have
Secondly and with all due respect
Come
Happy to give you a tour of del paso happy to give you a tour of north sacramento. It's not Folsom
It's not citrus heights even okay
It's a community of color
That is extremely economically disenfranchised and has had a lack of both political and service attention
For decades not even years
So again, it's
um, yeah, it's not the unincorporated county
Yeah, but let's also remember
uh
The services of the district attorney are county-wide services as well. So
There's that element of this that I think is worth considering
So just really quick. I I don't appreciate the comparison to the city of Folsom
I I I have a very well understanding of of the county of sacramento
I understand del paso I understand I have visited I have I I know the challenges
I know the disparities that oftentimes that come with it
um
Uh, so I just don't want you to think that I have spent my time in this bubble in Folsom because that's not what it is
Um, so yeah, the offer stands
I'm happy to I I would take you up on that
Thank you, mr. Chair. I think I still have the floor here
Yeah, that's right with you, uh, but I I am supportive of
of uh
I am supportive especially in terms of a one-year funding and I do think it is unique in terms of the nexus to the parkway
Um, so I I think that's that's reasonable. I would not support it as an ongoing
Fund from the county however, um, so finally for me, and I know there's a lot of other non-profit organizations, and I appreciate everybody coming out
I I suspect one of my colleagues may mention splash as well
Um, and and and potentially restoring some funding there and maybe to some other things
But it's tough because there's a lot of impacts that you really don't even easily see just looking through the budget
There's impacts to SPCA fund programs refunded SPCA. There's uh, there's uh, of course a lot of federal impacts to non-profits who do amazing work
in sacramento county
Um that that aren't even it's not even reflected in this budget, but the need certainly outweighs the resources we have
Um when it comes to public safety. I do want to comment a little I already made a few of my comments in
Um response to the sheriff and the da's budget and I won't belabor those the discussion about you know prop 36 and
But one thing I do want to want to focus on and we heard a theme from a lot of folks here
Today is number one the progress we're we're making in unincorporated sacramento county um and the return on the investment
Um by some of these public safety resources and certainly what the the sheriff and the da is doing these communities
I think of it in terms of you know, I look at mr. Defoni and what we're doing with the community development review process
I think of everything all the work dot is doing these unincorporated communities to try to try to create
Better environments for the people who live and work and play in these communities
And that's that's resulting in people taking another look at these unincorporated communities
Investing in these communities we want people to come in and bring more housing affordable housing market rate housing
into these communities
um they are only going to do that if they can be assured that these are safe communities and so I I share the sentiment
Um that that we should not
Do anything that's going to stall the progress we've made
um with respect to the sheriff so so my my proposal with the sheriff's department what I what I heard today
from from the sheriff is that they're willing to
um reduce the youth services unit which is I believe about 1.5 million 1.2 million 1.4 million
and then the net county cost of the ccw that's already included in here amanda correct the 840
thousand of net county cost for ccw
So one of the recommended reductions is is to
Reduce that cost in the budget are you referring by 840,000? Yeah, so keep that the same but we but so I'm looking specifically
And he wants to maintain the marine unit, which is a three hundred thousand dollar expense the other way
um
I'm looking at
both the
Funding for the hot and pop team in here and I and I know I don't want to get into the whole thing about who recommends what and
But in terms of the amount of dollars we're looking at those two combined
Are what 6.3 million plus the marine unit is another 300,000?
But if you offset that with the cuts to the ysu
That gets us down to what about 5 million a little over 5 million
Yes, yes, so my proposal would be to
um
Look at the cbo capacity building money to restore that amount to the sheriff's department
how much is that total it's about
5.2 million so you'll take 5.2 of the six point
6.9
6.8
Oh, it's 6.8 now because we actually funded
something
So those are my those are my comments just just a question so
That takes does that need to or does it take into account what I've suggested we don't really kind of know the final number for
Hot and pop you're right
It would it would have to it would also it would be a little less than that
Which could restore a portion more back to cbo capacity building, right?
That's right. Okay, may only be 4.2 million from the cbo. There you go. Yeah, okay. Thank you
Finally supervisor kennedy
Well, uh supervisor hume's velvet rope is turning into a bungee cord
um
I uh
I'm gonna go through well first. Let me address uh the
Kind of the proposal on the table for the parkway at five million dollars. I wholeheartedly support supervisor's
um proposal I
I I couple things
This doesn't take away from my support, but i'm going to caveat my feelings one is it would be nice
I know it's never going to happen if we could get the city to help out with the restroom repairs since
You know some of the major uses they end up getting the t ot out of it including the amazing
Music festivals we have, you know, they really benefit and those are the most
Intensive uses of those restrooms, so it's logical that they kick in it's never going to happen, but it would be nice
Um did have you know, I I spoke with councilmember dickinson about the community prosecutor and at first
I uh
I was kind of the same boat as you know
Isn't this a city issue, but but superfair is certain is right
Um, this has been a historically neglected area probably as much as any area in sacramento county
It is a hurry an area of high needs and if you think that the counties
uh
When when we invest in north sacramento if you don't think that benefits the county and our services
uh from you know probation and you know all of the the county-wide services we provide
um
I I I just think there's a clear nexus there. So so I I can support that as well
um
Down the list now as far as the cbo capacity building. I was a big supporter of it
However times were different than we had a lot of one-time money flowing in because of all the reasons amanda stated earlier
Perhaps you know, it's a nice to have but not a need to have at this point
To create a new program at a time when we're scaling back existing programs
Probably that is a good place to look at bringing out some funds for some of these other purposes
I do have one question before I get to my wish list and that's um the scoey issue is still sticking with me
um
and
It's not because I think that we need to be on the hook for this forever
my concern is is that
We didn't give them the time
to come up with a backstop in order and and I don't want to see and none of us do want to see these vital programs to our foster youth
um suspended in any way because
We're you know behind that so
I would like to see
You know, maybe instead of the 242 797 maybe half of that for six months
uh to give an opportunity for our staff and scoey to come up with a plan moving forward
That's just off the top of my head if there's something more creative or ease more easily done
That's fine. But I I fear if we just cut it today
They're not prepared and then someone's gonna fall between the cracks that that's concern of mine
um
Do have one kind of question about the public defenders pre-trial services program cuts and that's we actually
When we were having those discussions one of the reasons that we were having those discussions was may's consent decree
and that perhaps this could help with
uh
Reduction of population at the jail. It's not a huge impact on jail
population reduction, but it was a part of the discussion
So I don't know if it's counterintuitive for us to be talking about how important mazes is
But then get rid of that program let me those cuts to that program
Um supervisor can we have amanda benson come up and spoke speak to that yeah
Thank you amanda benson public defender so our pretrial program consists of some staff that is being restored
And that staff does a lot of research prior to arraignment
and they um
and we
Visit people in the jail we research cases to try to advocate for release right at arraignment that that's not changing
We're keeping that intact. Um, and that team
typically
Secures the safe pretrial release of about 3 500 people within 48 hours of arrest that's still intact
It's the exodus project just so that's being cut from our department
but
um, I believe it's being recommended
To to uh, be contracted under health services
And so I think it's going to be part of a bigger prop 47 grant project as well
So we think that we're going to be able to transition that pretty effectively. Thank you man. I appreciate that now
a couple things one is
um, I have
Earlier I spoke with the county executive and there's an open position in district 2
I'd like to freeze that position not fill that position
Which should save the county around 167 000 dollars
Plus the general services costs of making room for that position
and
As far as areas that I would like to see
Growth is I would like to once again continue to
I think that's a great question for meadowview fund at 62.5
$60,500
60, um, 60,500 dollars the match for
uh, the
um,
uh, cal fresh match at both the florin and meadowview
Farmers markets which are food deserts which have high needs populations
uh, and also or at least the florin is one of the most heavily used not just in the city not just the county
but um, in the state and sometimes the nation
So I would like to see that 62.5
uh, for another and before amanda's head explodes. I know these are one time
We can look for future funding to help them out or we can have this discussion next year
Depending on where we are
And then I would also like to
Along with the supervisor hume's comments
Splash is an incredibly impactful program to title one schools
are you know
Our neediest schools in our area at a very small amount of money
Even the per child money is so small and it's not only giving kids an opportunity
They wouldn't otherwise have that that gets them involved with stem
uh, it it actually
uh, it's utilizing and showing
Children in our county
Resources that they own
Uh that otherwise they would not have access to really or or even know about so I would like to see the 75 000 restored for splash
And with that, I believe i'm done. Thank you. That's a call for sure
Thank you
Supervisor kennedy i'm i'm sorry can I get just clarification on one thing that you said so with the scoey contract
um, I think it might be better just to say half for a year because they will continue to need a match even if we can draw down the title for e-funds
Would that be okay?
As I said, I mean, there's another better way to do it than just off the top of my head
Yes, I just want to make sure as my my how we get there is up to the smarter people
I just want to make sure that there's not a a cessation in funds
I mean in services
Can I just ask a clarifying question? So
62 500 that's for the alchemist
Proposal right with the farmers markets
And then the okay, all right, i'm sorry and then the uh, and then the splash restoration
The scoey and then transfer the district two position to district three
Is that what I heard?
We just lost our savings here comes the metro cable there's something wrong with our sound system
Here comes the boiler plate, uh, you know, uh soapbox about unincorporated all right
Okay, supervisor hume
Thank you chair, uh, first of all, I I look forward to staff's recap of kind of where we are but
I I just again want to reiterate um
The difficult decisions that have been made the the positive deliberation that has happened
and but I do want to kind of point out that
There is a little bit of a frustration on my end this now being
I guess my third time going through this process
That and I understand that from a procedural standpoint
This is the county execs recommended budget and that is how this thing comes to be
And then it is this is what I have scrubbed and this is what we've come up with
The smarter people have put their heads together and um
and it doesn't allow other than
Pull from reserves or find this line item or or give up a position
It doesn't allow for a lot of
Reiteration of how the board priorities are being interpreted
So I think in in deference to our newest supervisor
I don't think I've even had the opportunity to fully weigh in
That perhaps we look at the process and we look at
The application of those priorities and what they really mean when we talk about optimization and uh
efficiencies, etc
Um because you know not to invoke some of the stuff that's happening at the federal level
But I think the the sort of the you know
You know scrubbing of the budget and and really uh peeking under the couch cushions
Didn't seem to happen in this effort and I think could happen and is probably going to have to happen
Uh at some point in the future so
To the extent we can get ahead of that and and and really have more of a proactive input
So that it isn't a full day of of reacting to
to um different pressures
Um, so I just I just kind of wanted to put that on the record appreciate it. Thank you.
I think those are good comments. Um, okay
Supervisor, can I just make a comment on that real quick? Sure
Um, I don't know if I can stop all the folks that are coming. I think that was a different power that did that
um
Um, but looking at the process
One of the things that we've been talking about is is you know
We come to you in mid-year and provide a mid-year estimation of where we're going to be and seek feedback
I think we need to be more intentional on that
The other thing is I think um, we didn't do a very good job of
Have you heard an example from amanda benson where she said?
There's a million plus dollars that she reduced or absorbed in her budget
That isn't necessarily reflected anywhere in um the budget documentations coming forward
Many many many departments did that where they absorbed what I would call as a cut by keeping a static budget or status quo budget
So we not only didn't recognize that but we're also not rewarding that that service that um
Reduction in their um in their budget, so we'll do better at that also. Thank you
Since we're talking about maybe
future enhancements improvements to budget budget process it occurs to me that
Not the confusion but the ability at times to
To have who is doing what in terms of recommendations manipulated
Um is very frustrating and I think everyone
Saw my frustration with it uh today
I think in in future years quite to be very blunt about it
The budget if there's no statutory reason not to do it the way i'm going to suggest it
The budget should be as follows it should be
The county ceo's recommended budget
The sacramento sheriff's recommended budget
And the sacramento da's
recommended budget budget
And i'm not sure if it's relevant or not but perhaps even the assessor's recommended budget
So in other words you have a recommended
fiscal year budget
uh that is proposed by the chief executive officer
for all
uh departments
um that
certainly uh fall well within his rubric of of command and leadership
uh but i think it would be clear for the public would be clear
for us so that we don't get in the the back and forth the way you saw it earlier today
as to who's doing the recommending
because as i think uh supervisor kennedy pointed out and i really appreciated the fact that he
he did cite the law
that that really makes it at least as clear as can be at least in my estimation whose responsibility
where the buck actually stops on the recommendation
um it does lie with those elected department heads so
it's not to pick on them it's just that's the way it has been set up in state of california so
i would like us to maybe explore that in future years that that's the way it gets teed up then there's kind of a better
perhaps even fairer expectation both for the the three elected uh department heads about
how it's going to be considered and that's in their mind from the get-go in terms of what they're recommending
and it and it doesn't uh leave room uh the kind of room quite frankly that i
saw applied this time uh to potentially throw the ceo under the bus so
that's what i would like us to perhaps think about supervisor kennedy did you
okay supervisor we can absolutely look at that we'll have to look a little deeper into the legality
yeah i don't yeah exactly i don't know if there's something in the statute that it has to be the ceo's
recommendation i don't know but uh i think it's worth exploring okay so as we typically do
uh every time we do this uh and you let me know amanda if you want to do it differently but uh
uh she has been taking copious notes about all of our comments suggestions uh i think she reads the room
well uh she understands uh where there's at least three of us that uh are agreeable to certain things
what i would suggest is if you need the time take the time um and you tell me how much you need to go
back if you want to print out a short summary you can bring it back to us uh to tell us where how it
all balances out if you don't need it and you're prepared to summarize it here now we can do that or
and the the other option the third option is we come back tomorrow and and get it i'm not i'm not in
favor of the third option uh we got a lot of we got a lot of people that have been sitting here for a
long time that need to do other things and so uh you tell me what your preference is amanda my
preference at this point actually would be to clarify to make sure that i've understood everything
that has been said okay and and then yes i i do think i would like to take a short break okay
yeah that's that's that's absolutely fair so why don't you go ahead and summarize and then we'll uh
take a recess it may take a little bit longer than half an hour but we'll try to get half an hour i
know everybody wants to go home um okay so um in no particular order starting with the district
attorney i think what i heard was um restoring the six positions that were recommended for reduction
funding that with five hundred thousand dollars of additional revenue and then the balance being
funded with additional salary savings and please speak up if i no that's why we have these
five five five five five five five hundred thousand of additional revenue and we would match with
five hundred thousand out of the one of those line items reserve line items and then the remainder would
be salaries okay thank you which would be approximately eight hundred thousand dollars seven eight hundred
thousand okay okay okay and those are one time that that would be one time funds at the cbl
you might be getting to it thank you and i will keep repeating that
okay um and then additionally which would be in the district attorney's budget
we would be adding a principal criminal attorney position which would be for a community prosecutor
and that that we're estimating the cost at 285 000 and that would be funded
from the five million dollar parkway reserve correct okay um and then within the sheriff's budget so
the reductions yeah can i just supervisor i just want to make sure we're funding one full-time
position to do that you said something about skin and game and some other things i just want to make
one full one full-time position for the first for a first year with an understanding and of course we'd have
to have an mou in place as i mentioned earlier that um and i've got it on good authority that the city uh council
member for the area is interested in the uh city continuing that discontinuing uh it for the county's
ledger next year so and i had mentioned that there was another city seeking 50 percent that's why i
i understand that's why i asked that question yeah um so within the sheriff's budget um starting first
with the uh concealed carry weapons permit program so we had a reduction of that program there was some
discussion of increasing fees i i'm not clear on what what the proposal is would we still be reducing or
we i think we would still continue to make that reduction and ask the sheriff to come forward with
a new rate to make up for that lost revenue right so that would be 840 000 reduction as which would
stay no change which is already correct right which is already there so it stays a cost recovery
measure right it stays as a cut the general fund or the connect county cost uh was it 840 840 000 840
000 we said we were that was proposed to be reduced and then we're going to keep that reduced we'll keep
that reduction we'll ask the sheriff to come back and find revenue to cover that up
okay and then um the hot and the pop teams would be fully restored um partially funded with parkway funds
to be dedicated for use in the parkway um so that amount would be about 1.2 million because it would be
less the committee prosecutor supervisor kenny just an overall question um you know supervisor cerner
addressed it well with the memorandum because he you had the same concern i did for you know we just
said that but then we've said a thousand times here we don't have the authority to direct the resources
so how we get how do we do that well if we're gonna let me see if i can attempt to address it when the
hot and pop teams had full funding in recent years
uh part of their standard protocol i assume was on occasion to uh go adjacent to or in even in the
parkway to assist our rangers staff especially um as well as our maintenance workers and voluntary
organizations uh with what they are charged to do as the hot and pop teams if it's fully funded in part
with the the five million i assume that they would continue no no i'm sorry i'm sorry i maybe i mixed
i'm talking about no i'm not talking about the five million dollars oh i'm just saying that your idea
of the memorandum to make sure that that position went to that but now we're directing
the da to fully fund oh or the sheriff to fully fund pop and hot but we really can't do that
legally so how are we doing it
i'm gonna look to the attorney to answer that question you are correct it's i mean it would
have to be a good faith agreement or an mou which it does not have the force of law let's take the idea
of the uh of what what we're gonna have to work through with the city and maybe use that as a
template or a consideration at least to um have that good faith understanding that's a little more
than just good faith but in writing right that that that is what will actually occur i think it's
a good point i'm not saying anything that i don't trust that the sheriff would do it but he could we
could say we wanted to go toward this and he say thank you very much now go pound sand i got my money
so yeah i i see what you're saying i i have a pretty i mean your your spidey sense is probably
better than mine politically but i think if he's getting full um if he's getting if there's if he
sees interest on behalf of the board to restore hot and pop and he understands as well as we do how
important that is to our common constituents i i would put my money on that he's probably likely not
going to do something else with it but again good faith to the county council's point right i mean
good faith and if we do a written memorandum of understanding it doesn't have the force of law but
again it's something that we could point to and he can point to um to rely on which i think would be um
a good idea thank you good
okay so then also um restoring the position in the marine unit and the the net of the share of
restorations that is not funded with the parkway reserve would be funded by um in part reducing
the youth services unit by 1.4 million and then the remainder would come from the cbo capacity building
reserve okay um then i have the the three 3.5 million of other parkway related costs funded from that reserve
um and then scoey um at half a year which would be 121 000 full year what sorry one year half funding
thank you 121 still the same dollar amount 121 000. such the accountant not an accountant
uh funded um funded from the cbo capacity building reserve um and then uh south county services sorry
i mean let me pack uh south county services two hundred thousand dollars cbo capacity building and
working with the director to maybe find some in-kind uh opportunities for them to co-locate in our galt uh
dha office um splash 75 000 cbo capacity building and alchemist 62 500 also cbo capacity building
have i missed anything has amanda missed anything
okay so just for for clarity we'll have two comments one for clarity so
with the sheriff's department the youth um the youth is not going to get funded or it is going to
get funded i'm not clear it's up to him his recommendation what is that to us it was based on his proposal
that he came to identify some additional okay and then i i i just want to state for the record
uh i'm not in support of uh taking 400 000 and for the city of sacramento to have a prosecutor
we have another city a city of citrus heights that is looking for a part-time prosecutor and
um i don't see what the criteria is of the differences of these two cities that are incorporated that um
if you know there's been things that the city of sacramento has done in the past few years that i don't
agree in terms of their spending but now that we are covering a very large position for a year is just
not okay with me so i just want to put that down for the record and call it good why don't you propose
that the that the staff find funding for it for citrus heights yeah
well you know i'm going to stand by these cities are incorporated they have their they they have their
own money i don't see where the why the county should come in and and cover them i i i i don't
i just don't agree that the county should be handling uh services for the cities who uh who have their
own taxes their own property taxes their own tot um so fair enough that's just it okay very good
so supervisor could we have about a half hour and is that what you're looking for no i think a little
more 15 minutes i think half an hour six o'clock would be great and actually if we break if before
we break if i could just clarify supervisor kennedy you mentioned freezing the position i because the
position is in the budget i wouldn't be amending the budget to reflect that but understanding that
savings will be there thank you do you want to do anything with public comment close it no we're good
yeah we're good um i'm sorry i think the ceo is asking you if you want to close public comment
i thought i did but okay you want me to bring the gavel down say okay public comment is now closed there
you go so we are in recess until six o'clock
i'd like to call back to order this meeting of the sacramento county board of supervisors for wednesday
june 4th 2025 madam clerk will you please call the roll and re-establish a quorum yes supervisors kennedy
desmond rodriguez here hume here and cerna here you have a quorum very good thank you amanda you're back
i'm back yes thank you all for clarifying for me and i what i'd like to do is just go over
this table that i think is going to be displayed on the overhead which describes all of the changes
to the budget it's a little difficult to see isn't it so so i'll just i'll go quickly row by row on this
first row what we're doing is we are restoring the reduction to the district attorney misdemeanor unit
that was those six positions so that would be restored the total appropriation increase is a
million dollars because we're offsetting with 756 000 of salary savings and then also funding with
500 000 of one-time state revenue in the district attorney's budget and 500 000 of one-time
um cbo capacity building reserve the next line is showing adding a principal criminal attorney
in the district attorney's uh budget for a community prosecutor in north sacramento for one year again
funded with one time um uh uh uh uh uh uh oh sorry funded with one time arpa homeless yeah american
river parkway homeless reserve um the next line is showing the restoring the sheriff hot and pop
team reductions um so that's a total of 6.2 million dollars to restore those two reductions that's
funded with a combination of about 3.6 million dollars in cbo capacity building reserves 1.2 million
dollars in american river parkway homeless reserve and then also funded by reducing the sheriff use services
unit so that's a 1.4 million dollar expenditure reduction you can see that on the next row there
um also restoring the sheriff marine unit reduction funded with the one-time cbo capacity building reserve
um for the sheriff concealed carry weapons program what we're doing is restoring those appropriations
but showing them as 100 funded with revenue so this assumes that the board will approve a fee increase for
this program to fund that um regional parks we're uh uh restoring the reduction for the waterway support
contract of 500 000 and that is funded with the american river parkway homeless reserve we're also
in regional parks funding one-time transfers to the parks construction budget that you'll see at the
very bottom of this table um to fund the discovery park how avenue what avenue restroom repairs again
funded with the american river parkway homeless reserve um in uh the child family and adult services budget
restore partially restoring the sacramento county office of education contracted services on a one-time
basis for 121 399 in the human assistance administration budget partially restoring um the uh reduction to um south county services again on a one-time basis for 200 000 in the regional parks budget restoring the reduction um to splash again on a one-time basis for 75 000 and then in the human assistance administration budget um adding
um uh adding 62 500 for cal fresh benefits at farmers markets on a one-time basis
and amanda dave defonte i think we skipped over the park maintenance worker oh i did the one year sorry
i did yes thank you park maintenance workers so regional parks 77 000 um 19 dollars that would be restoring what was a recommended reduction for that park maintenance worker position
um so that would be funded with the american river parkway homeless reserve um and that um that that reserve
would then retain if you look up at the very top of this um chart here you can see the the table at the top shows the balance in the reserve so we would
be retaining within the american river parkway homeless reserve 922 981 dollars that would be available to fund that position
for the next 10 years very good thank you uh and that concludes your that concludes my comments unless
there are any any questions or changes on this okay very good thank you supervisor rodriguez um amanda i have
a question about the district attorney earlier we talked about it being for almost 400 000 and here we have 285
what why the difference of almost 100 000 so this is the cost of a principal criminal attorney position so
what we would be doing to our budget is adding a position to the budget so this is there was another
growth request that the district attorney had submitted for a principal criminal attorney which is
where this cost came from i i can't speak to the 400 000 i'm not sure what supervisor that might have been my
error i did mention that i heard from a different uh locality said it was about 400 000 i think that's
their cost not necessarily the cost for the da and this only includes the true cost of the county not
any kind of markup or anything else
and i do have just one more question about this position do we know what the expected outcome is a
year from now so we approve this position into the budget but do we know some of the um expectations
that we have of where we are today and where we're going to be a year from now by adding this position
into the budget and i don't know who would answer that i i can try to answer that question i thought it
was very clear that supervisor asked us to come up with the mou with the district attorney his office
in the city of sacramento or at least uh congressman dickinson's office you just promoted him councilman
councilman what did i say congress i'm sorry councilman uh district uh office uh and have a
conversation with him and set those expectations so then a year from now when we come back to the
budget we can look at what the expectation is and where that position had an impact to the city of
sacramento that could be definitely part of the mou okay in fact we could have a mid-year review as far
as i'm concerned so is that your instructions sure okay yeah i think it's going to be both in my office's
interest and councilman uh dickinson's interest to understand the efficacy of uh the work that
presumably uh assuming we get the affirmation of the mou the work that that uh additional committee
prosecutor would be doing in that part of the uh county so supervisor kennedy thank you sir uh i i
know that on the uh oh one a sheriff the money for the ccws it says as soon as board will approve
increase fee can we bring that to us as soon as possible yes yes we're already talking with the
sheriff's office already about bringing it forward okay thank you and it's in their best interest to bring
it forward to make up for that lost revenue right yeah but thank you supervisor kennedy for make uh
offering that reminder supervisor hume yeah i just had one more thing i wanted to go back to budget
unit 310040 i have some questions funny guy all right uh okay so is everyone is our uh supervisor
uh mr i was just gonna make a motion when well if you'll indulge me i just wanted to look to county
council make sure we make the right motion because i believe we we heard two items together right
do we not that's correct so what would the appropriate motion then consist of
let me just pull up the recommendation
seems like we go through this every year
all right well you could just um let's see you could just move staff's recommendation okay unless
you want to read um the uh full yeah full um no no yeah this fall cip the full title of the agenda item
or i would just easiest way is just to remove staff recommendation oh okay the budget of the
budget and the budget budget and the cip because we are doing both together let me preface it with
i would just say i think if lisa i don't know if lisa noticed that we put up oh i didn't see it sorry
thank you so um i think that's what she's looking for us to move staff recommendations and that would be
include all of that right and this recommendation that's on the overhead incorporates as incorporated as
as incorporated these changes that that have been made um by our budget officer okay with that
mr chair i'll move i'll move approval of of the uh uh 2025-26 budget as uh as amended with this recent
printout from amanda as well as approval of the uh 2526 cip very good all right there is a motion and a
second on the floor please vote
unanimous vote very good
um yes applaud
i know it's been a long day uh for everyone um again i want to express my uh my thanks to staff
and especially our fearless leader mr villanueva uh for um hanging in there and of course bearing with us
as we ask uh um you know so many questions that i think you've come to expect that we are going to be
asking about uh a subject this important so we do appreciate your guidance your assistance your
knowledge um and uh with that we'll uh go to well before we go to my colleagues and this this is um
offering general thanks on the subject okay yeah and we'll go to supervisor rodriguez then
supervisor kennedy it's public comments right at the comments well no that's that's what i was getting to
uh so um i'm i'm now done lavishing great uh thanks on all of you uh do we have any comments uh from the ceo um i would just like to return that favor and thank the board for their um very long day today and the focus that you've uh brought to the budget and helping us with their priorities
i said earlier that this was my recommendation and it's the board's budget and we'll stand behind this budget and implement it exactly the way you've spelled it out this is the major policy document for you
and we accept that direction and we'll bring back the things that we promised to bring back
also thank uh like i said this morning thank the executive team um and the department heads for all their work and all the things they did but a special thanks to amanda uh tom
thomas and her team they did a fantastic job pulling this all together somebody referenced there's several
thousands paid pieces of paper on this which is very true it takes a long time for us to pull all this
data together and she knows this inside and out and she does a fantastic job preparing this and presenting
it to you and i couldn't do it without her so thank you amanda very good thank you supervisor rodriguez did
you um yeah i just want to uh you know third time to say thank you uh for the work that this was a really good
experience i um it was a long day but i really enjoyed the day and i enjoyed being part of this process and
i thoroughly enjoyed hearing from um so many of our constituents um and and also i just want to encourage that next year i hope we can
um continue to get off the binders and go electronic so we can save paper um but i did but i did you know i did try it for the first time and it wasn't so bad so i um
and then lastly um i am going to take um uh chair cerner's offer to take me on a tour del paso not because
i mean i i want to get to know del paso but just because i get a chance to hang out with him so
i'll show you the rest of district one too if we have enough time
all right uh supervisor kennedy thank you chair i just want to say i enjoyed nothing about this day
um but uh in addition to all of the accolades that are well deserved by our staff i want to thank the
chair that was a very very well-run budget meeting and those of us that have done it know it can be
difficult so thank you very much thank you supervisor supervisor doesn't likewise thank you supervisor
kennedy stole my thunder a little bit i want to also thank the chair for running the meeting and
and and uh interjecting when appropriate with uh some members of the uh of the public so thank you uh to
county staff very very proud of the work that we do and i know this was a lot of public safety
discussion today but david i know how you started out the meeting today with talking about all the
accomplishments the county has made and those were all on the social services side and i where do you
have that that was great do you have that written up somewhere i mean i know i can find it yeah it was
actually really good it's like a bear trap so thank you i can give you my notes
all right very good um okay if there's no further business before the board we stand adjourned
Discussion Breakdown
Summary
Sacramento County Board of Supervisors FY2025-26 Budget Hearing
The Sacramento County Board of Supervisors met on June 4th, 2025 for over 7 hours to consider and ultimately approve the FY2025-26 recommended budget of $8.9 billion, representing a 2.8% decrease from the previous year.
Opening and Budget Overview
County Executive David Villanueva and Chief Fiscal Officer Amanda Thomas presented the recommended budget, highlighting:
- Total appropriations of $8.9 billion across all funds
- $1.021 billion in discretionary resources
- $71 million in estimated fund balance (one-time resources)
- Structural imbalance due to relying on one-time funds for ongoing expenses
- Current reserves at 5.5% of general fund revenues vs 17% target
Key Department Presentations
- Sheriff Cooper opposed $8.1M in recommended cuts affecting HOT team, POP team, and marine unit
- District Attorney Thien Ho opposed $1.7M reduction affecting misdemeanor prosecution unit
- Public Defender outlined $2M in absorbed reductions while maintaining core services
Public Comment & Discussion
Over 80 speakers addressed the Board on various budget items including:
- Support for maintaining public safety funding
- Concerns about cuts to social services and community programs
- Support for environmental and educational programs like SPLASH
- Requests to maintain funding for community prosecutors
Key Outcomes
The Board approved the budget with several amendments including:
- Restoration of Sheriff's HOT and POP teams using reserve funds
- Restoration of DA's misdemeanor unit positions
- Funding for a North Sacramento community prosecutor position
- Partial restorations for various community programs
- Direction to explore revenue enhancement options
- Approval of 5-year Capital Improvement Plan
The final budget maintained a balance between core services while acknowledging ongoing structural challenges that will require continued attention in future years.
Meeting Transcript
Good morning. I'd like to call to order this meeting of the Sacramento County Board of Supervisors for Wednesday, June 4th, 2025. Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll and establish a quorum? Yes. Good morning, Supervisors. Kennedy? Desmond? Rodriguez? Here. Hume? Cerna? Here. And you have a quorum. This meeting of the Sacramento County Board of Supervisors is live and recorded with closed captioning. It is cable cast on Metro Cable 14, the local government affairs channel on the Comcast and direct TV U-verse cable systems. It is also live streamed at Metro14live.satcounty.gov. Today's meeting will be repeated Saturday, June 7th at 6 p.m. on Channel 14 and viewed at youtube.com forward slash Metro Cable 14. The Board of Supervisors fosters public engagement during the meeting and encourages public participation, civility, and use of courteous language. 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If you need an accommodation pursuant to the Americans with Disabilities Act or for medical or other reasons, please seek clerk staffed for assistance or contact us at 916-874-5451 or by email at boardclerk at sackcounty.gov. Thank you in advance for your courtesy and understanding of the meeting procedures. Great, thank you. Will you please rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Okay, again I'd like to welcome everyone to this morning's proceedings and of course this is somewhat of a momentous annual ritual that we have here in Sacramento County and in fact local government enjoys that ritual everywhere each year, which is arguably the most important responsibility that we exercise each year, which is of course considering allocation resources our budget. And I know that we're going to hear from our CEO in a few minutes, but I do think it's worth mentioning, at least from the chair's perspective, just how important this is. It's oftentimes stated that budgets are a reflection of our values and I do agree with that statement as sometimes trite as it can be. But, you know, when you go back and look through the record of the decisions that we make as your board of supervisors to provide what is necessary to fulfill the mission of service and programming and infrastructure and all the responsibilities that we have, the product of what we do in chambers here today really needs to reflect how we thoughtfully think about those things. So, with your help, and I know that many of you are here to provide testimony to the board and give us your thoughts and your feelings about how we should allocate those resources, resources we will hopefully at the end of the day and perhaps maybe tomorrow if necessary come out at the other end with a budget that we can be proud of and that will indeed for the 25-26 budget year reflect our values. So, with that, Madam Clerk, first item. Our first item are public comments relating to matters not on the post-to-day agenda and we do have three speakers signed up. Okay. And as before the clerk calls the first speaker, just a reminder, these are, this is the time of our, during our agenda where members of the public are certainly invited to address the board on any items not on our posted published agenda. We cannot take any action. We cannot have any lengthy discussion about the items and that is, again, because of a sunshine law, the Brown Act.