Good morning, everyone.

We will now call to order the Sacramento County Board of Supervisors meeting for Tuesday, February 10th.

Would the clerk please call the role and establish a quorum?

Certainly.

Supervisor Cerna.

Supervisor Kennedy.

Supervisor Desmond.

Vice Chair Hume.

And Jerry Rodriguez.

Here.

We have a quorum.

Thank you.

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Thank you, Todd.

Let us stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

All right.

Would the clerk please uh call the first item?

Our first item on today's agenda is public comments relating to matters not on the posted agenda.

And we do have several speakers signed up.

First of which is Marvel Wilson.

You pronounced it Marvel, which is good morning.

Good morning.

Is that how you pronounce it?

Say again, please.

Is that how you pronounce it?

No, it's Marvel.

Marvell.

Okay.

Good morning, Marvell.

I can't withstand the superhero pressure.

Because I'll let you down, be honest.

Okay, so um I'm glad we got an opportunity to address what what we're here to do is find out about the TOT, which was referred to us a couple of years ago, and I did some research and we kind of got lost in the transition.

Uh uh translation.

So now we're here to find out.

Number one, is that actually a grant?

So some reimbursement attached to that because we had the misinterpretation that there's some sort of reimbursement attached to this grant.

There we go.

Okay, so now we're curious to know why is it called a grant.

If that's the case, because um we're we're a community based organization known as hooked on fishing not on violence, and we uh have been doing this work diligently for years, and now we're appealing to uh some outside resources, and um thus far we we've keep running the dead ends and now this is another dead end.

If we were talking about we had to raise funds to a lot to get things done, and then uh you will I don't know, you give us funds and then we pay you back.

Is that that's uh is that how it goes?

No, that's not how it works.

But if you want information, we can connect with you with someone who can give you more details.

Um the deadline was extended to the 14th, so you have until Saturday.

Uh, but um is it yes?

Um supervisor, we can take uh uh Mr.

Wilson's uh comments and look into the details because I'm not exactly sure what organization he represents.

So, no fishing, not on the fishing.

Okay, um we can because I think that was that something we did last.

Well we'll let us look into it a little bit more and meet with him after this meeting.

Sounds good.

Uh sure.

All right, thank you for the information, Marvella.

Thank you.

Oh, yes.

So um thank you.

Yes, uh I believe our district has worked with your organization before to provide you some support.

Uh it may have been TOT funding.

Um, where do you have a physical location?

Uh yes, we do.

Uh we're uh whereabouts is it, you don't.

I mean, is it in the city of Sacramento?

City of Sacramento, correct?

Okay.

I believe you're kind of um doing a lot of the work in the in the district I represent, and probably the district that uh Supervisor County represents.

Uh in addition to whatever assistance the county executive just mentioned, please reach out to uh my staff uh and we can help you um clarify whatever questions uh you may have regarding TOT.

There's a lot of moving parts to it.

Um there are kind of two different tracks you can take in terms of how to compete for uh TOT.

Uh but uh if you do that um and alongside with what Mr.

Villanueva has suggested, I think we can we can help you out.

All right, I appreciate that.

Thank you.

And also uh just be aware too that uh because you're speaking on off agenda matters, we can't really go into much more detail than I've already explained here to try and help you.

Okay, all right.

Thank you for that, and we'll have a chat.

And our next public speaker is Joseph Tanner.

Good morning, Joseph.

Good morning.

Um Madam Chairman and gentlemen, uh the only reason that uh myself and Mr.

Wilson are here is to clarify the fact that uh hooked on fishing, not on violence, has been in operation for a number of years already within the communities, both supervisors in the district one and two, uh, do know of our uh our work.

Uh we're here to clarify, and uh uh Chairman Rodriguez, we're only here to clarify just exactly what the language is because it seems to be uh a little confusing, so that clarity is definitely needed, and uh Mr.

Bill and Awayva definitely will be in contact with you because we do want some clarity.

Um, I hope that um as we conclude as this business concludes itself, that uh we'll have some sort of positive outlook, positive turn.

Joseph Tanner, thank you.

Thank you, Joseph.

And our next public speaker is Daniela Barrera Barajas.

We're going to go together.

Is that still okay?

This is Isamar.

I'm on the next agenda item.

We're gonna do it together within two minutes.

Is that fine?

Okay, that's fine.

Okay, cool.

Thank you.

Good morning, everyone.

My name is Issa Morphin, and I am go ahead.

And I'm Daniela Barrera Barajas.

And we are both mental health therapists at Use Davis.

We are here today as private citizens, and our views do not represent UC.

We work in conjunction with the UC Davis Child and Adolescent Abuse Resource and Evaluation Center, also known as the Care Center.

The care center provides counseling for victims of crime, sex trafficking, and exploitation, as well as abuse, neglected, and high risk youth.

The Care Center is largely funded through contracts awarded by your behavioral health committee.

Last month, the care center was suddenly informed, the Sacramento County contract was not going to be granted.

This county contract has been in place since 1999.

Last week last week, we learned that the contract will now continue for one more year.

There is a lot of confusion in regards to funding and service stability.

This makes it almost impossible to create treatment plans.

It undermines clients' ability to let themselves develop relationships fully.

You'd need time to build rapport.

How are these at risk populations supposed to build trust with clinicians if they can count on you to fund our program consistently?

We help people and save lives in the works that we do.

We have the data to show it.

If we can't consistently fund our programs, staff can't plan for their futures, meaning high rates of turnover.

Beyond that, clients can't let themselves trust therapist if every year they worry about it being shut down.

As the board, you can prioritize mental health treatment for children and families.

You can instruct the committee to prioritize specialty programs.

Please help clinicians, help Sacramento youth and families.

Thank you for your time.

Have a good day.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh thank you for being here and uh providing your testimony.

Um what I would like to propose um is uh Siobhan.

If you could give me and my chief a quick briefing, maybe as early as after this meeting, uh, in terms of the um subject matter that uh the two uh speakers have alluded to, and uh we will commit through my office to um work back through Siobhan to answer any questions you might have or give you a better understanding of um what's at issue relative to um again the concern that you've expressed here today.

So I just didn't want you to think that you would um speak here and and not have any follow-up.

So, okay, thank you.

Thanks, Evan.

Thank you.

And our next speaker is Chris Bennett.

Good morning, Chris.

Good morning.

So I'm Chris Bennett.

I'm running for Congress in the third district, and I'm here to speak on behalf of the Child Abuse Assessment Resource and Evaluation Center.

Now they were able to receive another year of funding, but I really want to urge the Board of Supervisors to prioritize this program.

As we've been seeing right now, people from across the world have been completely unaccountable for committing horrific acts of violence against children and doing human trafficking and sexual violence, and we need to make sure that we have the resources necessary to address these very real problems.

And we also have the problem where the middle class has been dwindling at ever increasing rates alongside union declines in membership.

So please continue to fund the care center.

Please make sure that the behavioral health committee understands that this is extremely important and that we need to keep making sure that we're taking care of our children and our families.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And we have no additional speakers.

Okay, so will the clerk please call the next item.

The next item on our calendar is the consent items.

Those are items two through 15 on our agenda, and I have a few notes to read into the record.

First off, we have uh consent calendar item number eight, adopt an ordinance amending chapter 6.2, Title 6 of the Sacramento County Code that is relating to solid waste management.

We have waived the full reading and continued this matter from January 27th, 2026.

It was item number 20 on the agenda.

For consent calendar item number nine.

Uh we are adopting an update to the Sacramento County Water Agency fee plans and engineers report for zones 11A, B, C, W, and N, and introduce an ordinance amending Schedule D of Title II of the Sacramento County Water Agency Code.

We are waiving the full reading and continuing to February 24th, 2026 for adoption.

Also, we did publish an addendum item with one consent calendar item.

That is the Casumnes Fire Department ordinance adoption of findings denying proposed Casumness Fire Department ordinance number 23.

I would also like to note as a correction to the board letter, the board letter references a 3-2 vote for approval on January 27th.

Those references should be updated to recognize the 4 to 1 vote for approval.

And those are all the notes on the consent calendar.

Thank you.

Um any comments or anybody would like to.

Oh, there we go.

Supervisor Hume.

Thank you, Chair.

Uh, I just have a question procedurally for the addenda item.

Will we be hearing that separately or is it incorporated as a part of the consent calendar?

It's incorporated as part of the consent calendar.

Would you register me as a no on that particular item then?

We'll do.

Thank you.

Supervisor Sarna.

Thanks, Chair.

Uh please uh for the record show that I'm abstaining on item six.

Item six.

Thank you.

All right, are there any public comments?

We have no one signed up for consent calendar.

Okay.

I will entertain a motion.

I'll second them.

Okay, would the clerk please call for the vote?

And the consent calendar passes 5-0.

All right.

Would the clerk please call the next item?

All right.

And the next we will be taking item number 21.

Those are the nominations.

So we will be continuing the following nominations to February 24th, 2026.

The Adult and Aging Commission, the Antelope Community Planning Advisory Council, the Art and Arcade Community Planning Advisory Council, Cordova Community Planning Advisory Council, Casumas Area Community Planning Advisory Council, Developmental Disabilities Planning and Advisory Council, In Home Supportive Services Advisory Committee, Sacramento County Commission to this on the status of women and girls, and the following committee uh nominations will be continued to March 10th.

Uh those include the Cemetery Advisory Committee, Equal Employment Opportunity Advisory Committee, Fair Oaks Community Planning Advisory Council, North Highlands Community Planning Advisory Council, South Sacramento Area Community Planning Advisory Council, and this next set of bodies will be continued to March 24th, 2026.

Those include Foothill Farms Community Planning Advisory Council, Orangevale Community Planning Advisory Council, Sacramento County Behavioral Health Commission, Sacramento County Behavioral Health Youth Advisory Board, Sacramento County Treasury Oversight Committee, Sacramento County Youth Commission, and the Vineyard Community Planning Advisory Council.

Which brings us to today's nominations.

First up, we have the Carmichael Community Planning Advisory Council.

There are two district three nominations.

Please reappoint Rayburn Lano and continue the remainder to March 10th.

We'll do.

Thank you very much.

And next we have the Children's Coalition.

There are 24 seats.

On this one, Chiefs recommend nominating Christopher Orr.

And continue the remaining to February 24th.

Thank you very much.

Then we have the Clint County Planning Commission.

There are two seats.

There is one district one nomination, no applicants.

And then there is one district three nomination.

For district one, please continue to March 10th.

For district three, please continue to February 24th.

Thank you very much.

Then we have the Galt Arno Cemetery District.

There is one nomination, one district five nomination.

Please continue to February 24th.

Thank you.

We have the Health and Human Services Coordinating Council.

There are nine community member seats.

One district one nomination.

Please continue to March 10th.

Thank you.

Two district three nominations.

Please nominate Ziggy Robison and Bryce Alred.

Thank you very much.

The Law Library Board of Trustees.

There is one member of the bar seat.

Chiefs recommend reappointing June Coleman.

Thank you.

And the Public Health Advisory Board.

There are four seats.

Chiefs recommend nominating Johnny Vang.

And Chiefs recommend reappointing Stacey Anderson, Michael Li Chang, and Samantha Rapp.

Thank you very much.

Then we have the Rio Linda Elverta Community Planning Advisory Council.

There are two district four nominations.

All right.

Thank you for that.

And we have the Veterans Advisory Commission.

There are five seats.

One district one nomination.

District one, please continue to March 10th.

Thank you very much.

We have one district two nomination.

Please reappoint Max Baumgartner.

Thank you very much.

We have one district three nomination.

Please reappoint Matthew Chicato.

Thank you very much.

We have one district four nomination.

Thank you.

And one district five nomination.

Please reappoint Austin Ashey.

Thank you very much.

And just double checking one thing here.

Yep.

All right.

We are on that will conclude our nominations for today.

Which uh so we have uh five hearings scheduled for 10 o'clock.

Um either we take a break or we hear some county executive comments, but I typically we do that at the end.

So I would the chairman like to handle it.

Let's go ahead and take a break until 10 a.m.

All right, thank you very much.

Good morning, everyone.

We will now resume the Sacramento County Board of Supervisors meeting.

Would the clerk please call the next item?

Oh, actually, can I just make a comment on health and human services coordinating council?

District 4 will continue to February 24th.

Thank you very much.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

All right, next item on our agenda is item number 16.

This is the public hearing on the benefit category change and levy of increased service charges for the winding ranch subdivision.

Kate, good morning, good morning.

Um I'm Don Pimentel with County Engineering.

The winding ranch subdivision is situated on the south side of Winding Way, approximately 200 feet east of Manzanita Avenue.

The development consists of 79 single family lots, a detention basin, miscellaneous access and landscape lots and associated site improvements.

This project was approved on August 20th of 2024.

Required prior to the final map recordation.

The project proponents submitted an application to initiate the benefit category change process.

Following that submission, a notice and proposition 218 protest ballot was sent to the property owner on December 23rd, 2025.

Currently, the project's existing parcel is in the safety light only category with an annual assessment of two dollars and fifty-six cents.

Upon changing to the enhanced street and safety light residential and non-residential categories, the annual service charge will increase to approximately five thousand seven hundred dollars and ninety-six cents for the project.

If the board has no questions, staff recommends opening the public hearing, receiving written and oral testimony along with any objections or protests.

Close the public hearing and then direct the clerk to tabulate the return protest ballot.

Thank you.

Are there any questions for staff?

No questions.

I will now open the public hearing.

Um clerk has anyone signed up to speak on this item.

We have no requests to speak.

Okay, great.

I will now close the public hearing.

Will the clerk clerk please tabulate the ballots?

The clerk's office has received one protest ballot, DR Horton CA2 inc.

And this ballot uh for 590 winding 590 winding way uh is marked yes and is signed and dated.

Okay, but the clerk uh will the staff please read the fill-ins.

Thank you.

Um without the majority protest.

Um in section two at the close of the hearing, the board received zero written protests.

In section three, at the close of the tabulation, the board received one protest ballot, totaling one hundred percent of the total service charges to be levied, of which one hundred percent was in favor of the benefit category and zero percent were in opposition.

Thank you.

Okay, I move to approve the reso and adopt the uh benefit category change.

All right, please vote.

Item 16 passes unanimously 5-0.

All right, would the clerk please call the next item?

The next item on our agenda is item 17.

This is a public hearing to establish a service charge within the North Vineyard Greens Unit 3, Unit 11, and Unit 11 West Subdivisions.

Good morning again.

Thank you.

It's me again.

Um for a North Vineyard Greens Unit 3, 11, and 11 West subdivisions, they are located on the northeast and northwest corners of the intersection of Waterman Road and Gerber Road.

To comply with the rezone conditions of approval, the property owners of the subdivision have requested that the county establish the CSA 10 zone three service charge for their developments.

These charges provide extended transportation relation related services that can reduce vehicle trips within new urban growth areas.

In response to the owner's request, a notice and protest ballot were mailed to the property owner on December 23rd, 2025.

This item proposes the levy of an annual service charge on of 1031 dollars and 54 cents per single family residential lot for 92 single family units.

If there are no questions from the board, we recommend the board open the public hearing, consider any written and oral testimonies, objection to protests, close the public hearing, and then direct the clerk to tabulate the return protest ballot.

All right, I will now open the public hearing.

Clerk has anyone signed up to speak on this item.

We have had no request to speak on this item.

All right, I will now close the public hearing.

Will the clerk please tabulate the ballots?

The clerk's office has received one protest ballot for counties uh county service area number 10, uh site address Waterman Road and Gerber Road, Sacramento.

The ballot is marked yes and is signed and dated.

Thank you.

Will the staff please read the fill-ins?

Thank you.

At the close of the tabulation, the board received zero oral and written protests.

In section three, at the close of the tabulation, the board received one protest ballot totaling 100% of the total amount to be levied, of which 100% was in favor of the service change charge, and zero percent were in opposition.

All right.

I will entertain.

Oh, we have a do you have a request to speak?

Supervisor Cerna.

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh, if there are no questions by my colleagues, I'd move approval of the item.

We have a we have a motion and a second.

Please vote.

And item 17 passes unanimously 5-0.

All right, thank you.

Would the clerk please call the next item?

The next item on our agenda today is 18 Power Family In authorizing the bond insurance and conditional loan commitment with resources for community development in the amount of 2.5 million.

Good morning, Christine.

Good morning.

Christine Wikert, SHRA.

A staff's requesting approval to issue tax exempt mortgage revenue bonds and a commitment of $2.5 million in home funds to the power in family project.

Power and Family is a new construction project located on Power Inn near Calvine Road, which will serve households earning between 30 and 60% of area meeting income.

The five-story development is consists of 73, one, two, and three bedroom units, and the project will feature amenities such as play structure, service space, laundry facilities, and a community room.

The developer is currently applying for 24 million dollars in affordable housing and sustainable communities funds.

Other funding sources include low-income housing tax credits, a deferred developer fee, and developer equity.

They have been building affordable housing for over 40 years, but this is their first project in Sacramento.

Staff is approved.

The John Stewart Company is the property manager and life steps will provide a minimum of 20 hours of on-site resident services, including after school programs.

In closing, staff's requesting approval of the issuance of bonds and 2.5 million dollar home loan for the power and family project, and is available to answer any questions you may have.

Thank you, Christine.

Supervisor Hume.

Thank you, Chair.

Uh, thank you, Christine.

I just have a quick question regarding uh the entitlements for the project.

Uh does this project slide in under um say SB 79 or something where it kind of removes local land use control?

I believe it does.

Maybe I can get some help from um county staff, but the this project is now since they're applying for their AHSC entitlements.

I don't um funding, I don't believe they have to have their entitlements yet, so they haven't gotten to the point that often we come before you with projects that do have their entitlements already.

This one I'm not sure about, but we can get back to you unless Dave, you have any.

I don't know off the top of my head, so we'd have to get back to you.

Okay, and the only reason why I ask is is I imagine this is something that is going to come before us more frequently.

Yes, where you have a five-story building in an area where there are no other five-story buildings.

The only building I think over one story, two stories, other than maybe a couple houses is the Fairfield in uh hotel.

So, you know, I I think there's some sensitivity that I certainly have of what fits the neighborhood.

And so I'm not opposed to the project per se.

I'm not certainly not opposed to extending tax credits and a loan amount, but again, it's just because this is the last piece of undeveloped property within this area.

We have a pretty good idea of what the surrounding uses are gonna be.

Yeah, so absolutely.

Supervisor Kennedy.

Yeah, thank you, and thank you, Supervisor Hume.

Um, yeah, this is a not necessarily this project has been something we've been working on for a long time, but this lot is something that we've been working on and trying to get something, particularly housing there for quite a while, and to have something that fits in, you know, where it is adjacent to commercial and all of that.

Um, I think that this is a highly appropriate uh uh use for this lot.

I thank SHRA for um continually uh trying to get something here, as I said, we have been for the 11 years I've been here.

Um and and I also welcome the fact that we're bringing in a new developer.

That's always good to continue to grow our pool of developers we're working with, who specialize and have a history as this one does.

So uh thanks to uh you Christine and staff for your tenacity and um I think this is gonna be a very good addition to that area there, and also um meet the needs that we have in South Sacramento for affordable housing.

Thank you.

All right, are there uh thank you, Christine?

Are there any requests to speak on this item?

None.

Move approval, second.

All right, all right.

Please vote.

Thank you, Christine.

Item 18 on our agenda passes unanimously 50.

All right, would the clerk please call the next item?

The next item on our agenda is 19 resolution of necessity authorizing eminent domain actions to acquire real property.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning, Chair Rodriguez and all other members of the board.

I'm Peter Hannon, program manager with the real estate division, and I'm here today to introduce this item, which recommends board approval for one uh for three resolutions of necessity authorizing eminent domain actions to acquire real property interest for the Department of Transportation's wide-away infill sidewalk infill project.

Um before I begin my presentation, there have been some recent developments on one of the resolutions.

Uh item number three for Paula C.

Noonan as trust or and trustee at 2376 wide away.

This owner has signed the necessary acquisition documents, and the county has fully executed those.

Therefore, I would ask that the board drop this resolution number three for Paula C Noonan.

Okay, the wide away sidewalk infill project consists of the construction of curb gutter sidewalk, accessible curb ramps, minor storm drainage alterations, and installation of street lights.

The project will construct sidewalk on the south side of Wideaway between Markston Road and Jaron Place.

The project will also construct new sidewalk along the north side of Wyda from Geron Place to approximately 180 feet east of Wright Street.

Of the 10 necessary acquisitions required for the project, two are the subject of this board item.

At this time, I'd like to display attachment three to this resolution necessity hearing, which is the list of properties.

And uh the list of properties, the individual properties.

Um, the individual properties necessary easements and corresponding easement areas are shown in square feet.

Um, uh Trong Nuyan, a married man located at 2372 wide away, APN 278-0230-021.

The real property interests the county seeks to acquire consists of an easement for public roadway and public utilities, and an easement for public utilities and public facilities and an easement uh temporary construction easement.

The real property interest the county seeks to acquire for an easement of public interests uh public utilities and public facilities and an easement for public utilities.

Uh the second one, Bill Lobner, trustee of the Bill Lobner family trust, located at 2419 wide away, assessors parcel number 2780210012.

The real property interest the county seeks to acquire consists of an easement for public roadway and public utilities, an easement for public utilities and public facilities and an easement for temporary construction.

Again, we are dropping number three.

Um the county attained appraisals for the affected properties for an from an independent appraiser, the present and presented offers to the property owners for the purchase of the easement interest I mentioned in attachment three.

County's negotiations with these owners have reached impasse as detailed in attachment four, the history of owner contacts.

The county is thus unable to secure the necessary easement interest on the subject properties under the current circumstances.

Today's resolution of necessity and anticipated eminent domain action actions will provide for possession of the real property interest and construction of the project while the county proceeds to acquire the easements through eminent domain as necessary.

Information to support the regular the required statutory resolution and necessity findings is contained within the staff report included with the agenda packet, along with owner contact histories.

Notice of intention to seek approval for the resolution necessity was mailed to the property owners by registered mail and standard U.S.

mail at least 15 days before today's hearing.

If you have any questions regarding the project or any of the properties in question, I or other project team members currently present are available to address those questions for you.

Thank you, Peter.

I do have a couple of supervisors in the queue.

Supervisor Cerna.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you for the staff report.

Um I have first of all, let me just say I uh I'll state the obvious here, but uh this board um does not take uh RONs for the authorization of eminent domain lightly uh almost in any circumstance.

Um looking through the history of owner contacts, which you just referenced.

I note that um the third attempt, I'll call it, uh dated 918 25.

Um this follows initial contact seven months earlier.

Um it suggests that the occupant who is apparently married to the property owner uh is a Spanish speaker only.

Um which um I thought was uh interesting uh because it's uh some some something I really not encountered uh relative to these histories when they've come up in the past.

Um obviously this is an important subject um for all parties, but uh I'd like to understand a little bit better and maybe county council can also uh help in terms of what are what efforts are do we apply uh when we understand that any party, even a conveying party, in this case someone that's married to the property owner, is um not uh speaking English as the principal language.

What do we do to go over and above to make sure uh that the property owner or maybe even the property owner's um surrogate is uh receiving written notices, um in-person attempts to communicate orally in the language that they are um conversant in.

And uh a question for county council is there anything in statute that says upon learning of uh someone uh who is obviously uh involved in uh making sure that they understand what the county is doing relative to application of eminent domain authority, that uh we at a minimum uh attempt to uh communicate written and orally in uh a language other than English.

Good morning, Deputy County Council Keith Floyd.

I work on eminent domain matters on behalf of the county.

Um there's nothing in the statute that requires outreach to uh English second language or someone who does not converse in English.

Uh however, we've had cases in the past with individuals, Vietnamese individuals, people that speak uh Spanish, um, that have not initially responded to outreach by the real estate um department and in we've filed eminent domain actions.

We've found friends that um or neighbors uh children that we've reached out to that have different addresses through our search methods.

We've uh the if the action is filed.

If we get to the point we have to file the action, the summons is in English and Spanish.

Um we'll we'll have a letter translated.

I put a cover letter with an action that gets filed, especially in it was cases where um it's a homeowner to explain the process to them in this instance.

If it gets that far, I will have a letter that's translated into Spanish.

The owner, the property on the individual that's on title, I believe is of Vietnamese descent.

If necessary, we'll have someone either from the county if we need to go outside to uh provide uh translation for that purpose.

We will certainly do that.

We've never had an instance where we've taken a default of someone because um they weren't responsive, and we were aware that they didn't speak English as their primary language.

Okay, thank you for that explanation, Keith.

Um, so it sounds to me like you said at the outset, obviously there's no uh state statute that governs it.

Uh but it also sounds to me like we don't have a policy.

Is that correct?

There's no written policy.

Okay, no.

So because what's a practice?

No, I understand.

So what left me with that that conclusion that there's no policy is you in citing your um what you just mentioned, the the example you just mentioned about well, we'll go to their friends to try and get some translation or that feels icky to me.

That feels like wow, that begs for at least some policy guidance about how we treat uh property owners uh or their representatives uh who do not speak English.

So what I would like to propose, based on kind of what you just explained, Keith, and what I'm reading here in the history of owner contacts.

I'm not accusing anyone, our staff, anyone who um uh may think I'm bringing this up to uh condemn how we've done it in the past.

It sounds like we actually go over and above, but it also sounds like it's very ad hoc, and that that's the part that doesn't feel comfortable to me.

So I'd like to have, and I'm looking to our county executive.

I like to have a conversation one-on-one with you, Mr.

Villanueva.

Um, maybe have uh county council uh representation in the meeting to understand um how we might um uh put a policy uh on this, something as important as uh RONs that just gives us a little gives staff.

I think it's actually helpful for staff, it'll give them kind of the understanding of the expectation.

Should the board approve a policy that the board expects uh when we are seeking to uh condemn property for for public purpose.

So um let's have that conversation, see where it leads.

But if necessary, um, based on what we kind of jointly conclude from that uh that meeting, then I would like to entertain um the prospect of maybe bringing a policy to the board that simply spells out how the steps that staff would necessarily go through, including using our own very capable um uh own our own staff, whether they be county council's office or uh real estate who are bilingual.

Um we shouldn't have to rely on friends or neighbors.

That doesn't feel good to me.

So I want to have that conversation and uh and it may bear uh the fruit of bringing a policy back to this board for consideration.

Um absolutely, Supervisor Cerner, we'll reach out to your office and set some time out.

Very good, thank you.

I think we can develop a notice that would be um when we have an individual as a Spanish surname or whatever it might be that would just be generic just to let them know what the action is and a phone number that they can contact and then go from there just as a starting point.

Yeah, no, I agree with you, Keith.

That might be a great um and appropriate starting point, but then what's the next step, right?

The next step would be giving them options in terms of um translation in terms of uh do you want to have any future communication relative to this uh this action in English or in Spanish or in Hmong or in you know whatever?

Um that's the part where I think it actually I think greatly would would benefit staff because they can then kind of look at the policy and say, okay, what are what is our next step and versus trying to rely on hopefully there's someone that knows them that can speak their native language?

That that's the part that I just don't feel comfortable kind of leaving to chance.

So that's that's the point of my comments.

Thank you.

Thank you, Keith.

Supervisor Desmond.

Thank you, Madam Chair, and uh thank you, Supervisor Cerna.

I did I did want to follow up a little bit on Mr.

Wen, and you delved into this in some detail.

Um, but what else did we uh what other avenues did we pursue to try to find out anything about him?

Yeah, do we know?

Is he currently still a resident of second or county?

I mean, yes.

Um, I personally been out twice to the property uh with the real estate offer who uh officer who's assigned to it, and um the conversation that we had uh with uh Mrs.

Nguyen was essentially her husband works a lot.

We have uh we got a contact phone number for Mr.

Nguyen.

Um, but you have a high level of confidence that you are indirectly at least in contact with him.

Correct, and um I I would draw our attention to uh the history of owner contacts on the December uh 22 entry 2025.

Um the real estate division did uh put together a letter written in Spanish, hand delivered and received by uh Mrs.

Nguyen.

Um again, that has led nowhere, um, no additional contact subsequent to that letter.

So um we've had some additional efforts uh more than our typical outreach uh for this particular property owner.

Thank you.

It it did strike me as well though that we didn't, you know, seeing Mr.

Nguyen has a you know seemingly Vietnamese surname that there was.

Yes, um, we we've you know uh this the information we get from the property owner's wife is that he works a lot, and um, you know, county staff traditionally don't go out on weekends and such to you know, which house is his I'm familiar very very familiar with this right away project.

Yes, didn't think it would be this difficult or take so long, of course.

Uh uh which house is it of the three houses right there on that north side of Whiteout?

Uh he's right next door to the one we dismissed uh earlier for Mrs.

Noonan, and he's across like kind of kitty corner from the other one, the Lopinsure property.

So that's not the one that is I see Steve White there.

That's not the one with the solid wood fence in the front.

Okay, no.

Correct.

Okay, supervisor doesn't.

Okay, and it seems like with property number two, we're just at the point we're in contact with that trustee directly and just talking about price at this point.

Yes, we've actually made a fair amount of uh headway with the negotiations.

We're just have not yet received final um approval from the owner on the um uh acquisition document.

I do anticipate that will be forthcoming.

So we will continue to work with the property owner as we always do uh post-resolution necessity to try and work out something, and uh we believe we're in good shape with uh the Loppinger property.

Thank you.

And I I will reiterate what Supervisor Cerna said at the outset of his comments that we don't we don't take approving these RONs lightly.

And Steve is dying to say something, so please.

Thank you, uh Supervisor Desmond.

Just uh to Supervisor Cerna's point earlier, it it it does feel a little willy-nilly ad hoc, if you will.

I just want I just want to reassure the board that uh the Department of Transportation always makes a good faith effort, and our our common practices, but we have a diverse staff and we have Spanish speakers, Vietnamese speakers, so we have on many occasions had staff come out to translate uh with a lot of success.

No, and thank you, Keith.

Um, thank you, Supervisor Desmond, for your your comments and letting me jump in here.

Um I don't again I I don't make my suggestion uh accusing anyone at all.

I think uh I'm really proud of our staff because they they have the innate um understanding, I think, that okay, someone's introduced um the fact that they're uh they have limited English uh speaking ability, so you're gonna make adjustments as necessary, but like for instance, what was just mentioned about the letter um uh sent on 12, the certified letter on 1222 25.

Um I would just go back to uh exactly a year prior, uh nine uh almost a year prior, 9225, where uh it just says REO left voice message for PO's phone.

I don't know from this.

Okay, so this is following the fact that there is a in-person encounter with someone that doesn't speak English.

So did was the phone message left in both English and Spanish?

I don't know.

Almost certain it was not.

Okay, so that's my point.

That is a good point.

It has been very ad hoc, and I I think uh I would agree with uh with counsel uh that coming back with a formal policy is uh it would be a good practice.

Good.

Thank you.

Thank you, and madam clerk.

There's no public comment.

I will uh move approval of the uh for uh first and second uh resolutions.

Second, there is no public comment.

All right, please vote.

Will the clerk please call the next item?

Well, that that was for item one on this one, and that passed five zero, and we still have that's right.

We're gonna have to do these separate.

Yep.

So um, so the motion was a uh a general one.

Do we need to oh uh thank you for that?

Um, we're gonna do it.

Um can you make them for both?

I mean, individual.

Individual.

Okay, so I'll withdraw my prior motion that we already voted on.

Second, we'll approve approval of resolution number one uh relating to Mr.

Wen's property.

Second.

All right, please vote.

Next item.

Thank you for that, everybody.

And then I'll move approval of the resolution relating to the Lobinger property.

Sorry.

Please vote.

Touch screen is not responding.

Hold on one second here.

Supervisor Desmond, could you also make a motion to drop number three?

All right.

And I will for number two.

That is five zero.

Passes unanimously.

Thank you.

And I if you need another motion, I'll move to drop the proposed resolution number three relating to the NUNA property.

Please vote.

Thank you.

And that item is dropped.

Can we get a policy on how we have to do the motions to the board?

Clerk, next item.

Certainly.

The next item on our agenda today is number 20.

That is the St.

Thomas Estates rezoned tentative subdivision map and design review for a property located east of Gardner Avenue and 0.2 miles south of Florin.

Good morning.

Thank you so much.

Good morning, Emma.

Good morning, Supervisors Chair Rodriguez.

Emma Carico, you know me by now, associate planner and project manager for the St.

Thomas Estates project.

The project site is a 5.5-acre undeveloped parcel located on the east side of Gardner Avenue in the South Sacramento community.

It is characterized by predominantly non-native grassland with no trees or water resources.

Subject parcel is located within the Florin Vineyard Community Plan, which designates it for residential three to five development.

It is currently split zoned with the western two acres being agricultural residential five and the eastern 3.5 acres being residential five.

Surrounding land uses consist of single family residential to the north, south, and east, and agricultural residential to the west.

The eastern portion of the parcel was previously a part of the Gardner Park subdivision project, which was approved by the board on July 16th, 2013, and included a rezone and tentative subdivision map.

The property owner chose not to participate in subsequent time extensions for the tentative subdivision map.

And on August 8th, 2016, planning and environmental review issued a substantial compliance determination that a revised tentative subdivision map excluding the subject property was consistent with the originally approved map.

So that's how the eastern portion of the subject parcel came to be rezoned from AR5 to RD5, but was never subdivided.

At this time, the applicant is requesting a rezone of 2.04 acres from AR5 to RD5, a tentative subdivision map to divide the entire parcel into 27 single family residential lots, and a design review to determine substantial compliance with the Sacramento County Countywide Design Guidelines.

In 2010, the board certified an environmental impact report with the adoption of the Florin Vineyard Community Plan.

For the current request, an addendum to that EIR was prepared.

The addendum concluded that no substantial changes are proposed, which would require major revisions of the previous EIR.

No substantial changes have occurred with respect to the circumstances under which the project is undertaken.

There's no new information of substantial importance, which was not known and could not have been known with the exercise of due diligence at the time the EIR was certified, and only minor technical changes or additions are necessary in order to deem the adopted environmental document adequate.

Here you can see the proposed rezone with the western portion of the site being converted from AR5, you can see on the left there, to the entire site being RD5.

You can see on the right there.

This would make the zoning consistent across the entire project site.

And here you can see the proposed tentative subdivision map, which would divide the entire parcel into 27 single-family residential lots, ranging in size from about 5,500 square feet to 9,600 square feet.

Primary vehicular access to the proposed subdivision would be provided via Gardner Avenue on the west there, which would be improved on the east side project frontage based on a 42-foot parkway one road section.

This includes two travel lanes, a bike lane, a seven-foot wide landscape corridor, and a separated six-foot-wide sidewalk.

Internal streets are designed to match with surrounding streets currently under construction by the Gardner Park project.

Off-site improvements include installation of a signalized intersection at Florin Road and Gardner Avenue about a quarter mile to the north.

The project does not propose any major drainage facilities on site.

Drainage would be conveyed to the Gardner Park and Gerber Creek drainage infrastructure systems, which are part of the larger Florin Vineyard Community Master Drainage Plan.

Low impact development features would be provided on each private residential lot.

The project was considered by several advisory bodies.

The design review advisory committee met on January 9th and recommends the board find the project in substantial compliance with the design guidelines.

The South Sacramento Community Planning Advisory Council met on December 18th, 2024, and recommends the board of supervisors approve the requested entitlements.

And most recently, the planning commission met on December 8th of last year, 2025, and recommends the board approve the requested entitlements.

The project is consistent with the general plan and Florin Vineyard Community Plan, as well as all zoning code standards.

It's generally contextually appropriate with the surrounding development.

For these reasons, at this time, staff recommends the board take the following actions.

Determine that the environmental analysis prepared pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act is adequate and complete.

Adopt the mitigation monitoring and reporting program.

Adopt an ordinance authorizing a rezone of 2.04 acres from AR5 to RD5.

Approve the tentative subdivision map and find the project in substantial compliance with the design guidelines, subject to findings and conditions.

Thank you for the presentation.

Any requests to speak on this item?

None.

Okay.

Move staff recommendation.

Sorry.

All right, please vote.

Thank you, supervisors.

Thank you.

And item 20 passes unanimously 5-0.

Okay.

Well, the clerk please call the next item.

All right.

So next on our agenda is item 22, which is county executive comments.

Thank you, Todd.

A vast metro cable to put up a picture for me.

That would be great.

I have two quick announcements for you.

Happy to announce that SACD principal planner Mickey McDaniel has been named member of the year for her work in the women's transportation seminars.

Her recognition recognizes Mickey's leadership in encouraging more women to work in the transportation industry, an industry where women are fairly underrepresented.

Right now, Mickey is leading a project focusing on safer pedestrian travel and improving access to seniors and members of the disability, members of the disability community.

So congratulations to Mickey on this award.

The second item I had for you really quickly is uh Sacramento International Airport.

Sacramento International Airport uh partnered with a research group to conduct a survey of departing passengers.

Uh passengers were asked to complete a survey of a variety of ways to measure their experience and satisfaction and their experience over at airports.

Um this happened during the months of November and December of 2025, and with a 91% satisfaction score winning SMF's uh customer experience excellent award for 2025, and that continues to show both the um expertise that we have in our own and diversity we have in our own ranks and the great work that's being done not only in airports but also in Department of Transportation.

So thank you.

Okay, next item, please.

Next item on the agenda is 23 supervisor comments, reports, and announcements.

All right, um, Supervisor Cerna.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I just wanted to um thank David for what he just did in terms of acknowledging um one of our professional staff in terms of um their um association activities and uh being recognized and um I would like to see more of that, quite frankly.

We have some just incredible dedicated uh public servants that uh belong to you know uh a wide swath of professional organizations in their um respective fields, and I think it would be nice if just as a matter of routine.

Um you know I'm starting to think like you know, I'm gonna be out of here, but it would be nice to uh be able to watch Channel 14 on occasion perhaps in the in the years to come and uh seeing our staff grow and um be rightfully recognized.

So I think having that as part of a standard part of our CEO comments would be very much welcome by this supervisor.

Thank you, Supervisor Cerner.

On that note, if I could add one more thing, I know the five of you were at this event that we had last Friday, but maybe Dave can talk about the award that he just in his organization won um just recently on Friday from the uh North State BIA.

Sure.

So Dave DeFonte, deputy county executive, um, we collectively were honored um by the North State BIA for a friend of housing award, which is fairly unique.

Uh typically it's given to an individual, uh commonly an elected official.

I think there's actually a winner or maybe two on the dais here today.

Um but the county was recognized and our staff was recognized for all the work we've done over the last few years to uh make building easier in the county and be the best place to build in the region.

So it was quite the honor, and I appreciate everybody attending.

Um so yeah, with that, just uh very happy to see that we are continuing to make progress and it's being recognized by uh those in the community.

And I would just add, well, Dave did stand up and take the award and um in his humble nature uh attribute it to his staff, and which is very true.

Um without Dave's leadership, I don't think we could have gotten any sort of recognition.

So I appreciate Dave's effort and and also the team.

He did a fantastic job.

And can I just oh, go ahead.

Absolutely.

I thank the board.

I thanked Mr.

Villanueva, and I thanked most importantly, our staff.

So I just want to give a little feedback.

Uh you know, in the past uh year and a couple months, one thing that I heard a very resounding message from people outside up here is the um the great changes that have taken with your leadership when it comes to permitting and getting um uh projects processed uh through the you know through the system and so that's there's a compliment that is just keep that I've been hearing for a long time.

So congratulations.

Supervisor Cerna.

Thank you, Chair.

Uh just uh just to belabor the point here, and I'm very very much uh proud to uh know that uh our collective professional staff or have acknowledged friends of of housing um by the BIA, but uh I I was the Chris Norum 30 years ago for the Bay Area equivalent as the vice president of the Home Builders Association Northern California.

And um I won't uh go into all the gory details, but we had massive growth wars at the time in the nine county Bay Area, and we had all kinds of lawsuits and initiatives, really um a lot of uh uh unfortunate friction between the uh home building industry uh and local government.

And mind you, in the nine county bay barrier, there's uh over a hundred and ten cities and counties, right?

So, and I was thrust right in the middle of that.

If we uh were to try and give away at the time a friend of housing award, whether it be to staff or electeds, it would be radioactive.

So uh it's it's really um I just uh wanted to reflect on that and say it's very uh it's great to see and very comfortable at this point to understand that we have this great working partnership between the industry and this uh this jurisdiction uh so much so that we can be proud of the fact that we um uh nurture that partnership between industry and and government, and it and we don't have uh that friction that makes um uh housing uh trying to provide uh a critical uh element like shelter to the general public in this county as difficult as it might otherwise be.

So I just wanted to throw my two cents in there.

Well, thank you.

And if I may, um, it really is because of your board's leadership that we are here today.

Um, you know, the resolution that you passed, your unanimous support for this frankly makes my job and our collective job a lot easier.

So I am extremely appreciative of everything you've done to set us up for success, and I honestly believe we would not be where we are continuing to prove improve day to day without your leadership.

So I really do appreciate it.

Supervisor Hume.

Thank you, Chair.

Yeah, I want to echo the comments of my colleagues.

This is not uh a normal occurrence for government to be recognized in this way uh from this group, and uh so I think it is a testament to the effort that's been underway.

Thank you for referencing that uh resolution because I think that is an important statement to uh acknowledge from you know those of us up here on the dais that it's okay to take those risks.

It's okay to think differently, it's okay to break loose some of the cartilage that has built up because that's the way we've always done things, if there's a better way to do it.

And I know that that culture change is taking place across the organization, so there are many folks uh in the trenches um and in the cubicles and in the the corner offices that don't have an opportunity to be recognized like this, and so I do appreciate when that does come, but I also acknowledge that there are other folks that are trying just as hard to do the best that they can do within the department that they have, and so um that was one of the things I was most excited about when I got up onto this dais was to learn that that effort uh started with your predecessor and that it continues with you.

And I really do believe that uh a lot of that comes from the tenor that gets set up here on this dais, and having that collegial uh working relationship, that quiet environment, um, the professionalism that's displayed throughout the organization goes a long way.

And so I just want to go back on record saying I still stand behind that resolution.

I still stand behind empowering our employees to really want to wake up and come do the best job that they can do.

So thank to each and every one of them uh and everything that they do.

Thank you.

And congratulations.

So this was not planned, but you just set me up for something that I'm I want to share with them with this um with my colleagues.

But first, I want to say that I just want to thank the sheriff's um department hot team for their outreach efforts near Walerga and Elkhorn Boulevard, um, and to the Antelope Business Community District Clean Team for their prompt cleanup that followed um after some complaints.

And then I want to give the best of luck to the real Linda High School Knights chair team as they head to the USA spirit nationals in Anaheim for the first time.

It's very exciting for them.

And um, you know, Supervisor Hume, you just mentioned a lot of great things that we do, but we somehow just don't share that story enough.

And so um I believe that an annual state of the county is an important importance governance tool that I think we're currently missing.

We ask Polly May we are policymakers to a very large complex organization, and while we are thoughtful decision makers, um, through our regular process, we don't share a single uh clear explanation of our priorities, progress, and challenges in one place, and that gap affects uh public understanding of how the county functions cohesively within and outside of the county partners.

One thing that has been clear to me is that I get asked this all the time is what does a county supervisor do?

So a state of the county would be an opportunity to highlight all of the accomplishment accomplishments from our departments, in addition to some of the challenges that we are facing on the horizon.

I believe uh state of the county would be board owned, nonpartisan address, that sets a clear reference point of the year ahead.

Um I would like to resume the annual state of the county and work with our PIO Kim Nava to get the highlights, which she actually already sent me from information that she she sends out.

And um, but there are so many stories and so many great things that happen here at the county that we just don't share enough.

And so I would like to proceed with this.

It would be no cost to the county with the exception of the PIO's time and some technical assistance on the day of the event.

Um I believe that going forward, if we like this, that the chair can pick a host um for and uh maybe a location in their district that they can highlight.

Um chair delivers a speech, and I think it would be um beneficial to spend four to six minutes for each supervisor to share.

It's just some really big highlights in their districts.

Um, and um, you know, I for just recently I do district one.

I had a meeting with someone and shared some really exciting news about the stadium that is coming that is just going to be an economic driver for district one.

And so um we do have a tentative a date and location um Thursday, April 9th from 11 to 1.

It would be lunch, it would be just 11 o'clock, uh, 11:30 lunch uh till 12, and then from 12 to 1 it would be delivering um a state of the county.

Is there anyone that sees a downside to piloting this for one year and evaluating it together?

I'm in the I'm in the queue.

Yes, okay, supervisor of Cerna.

Thank you, Chair.

Um no, I I think it's I think it's a great idea.

Um, and uh I certainly can hearken back to when we had uh full blown uh states of the county.

Um the part about at minimal or no cost, I wonder out loud about because they were fairly big productions, they were typically involved renting out a pretty sizable space.

Uh I believe the last time we really had a dedicated state of the county, we were holding them um down at the Sheraton, I believe, uh in downtown Sacramento.

And that was a whole ballroom.

So I'm not sure what the current chair envisions, but in the past there there have been pretty substantial costs with doing it.

We also would pay uh to have a keynote speaker.

Speaker, obviously, the refreshments lunch served all that uh comes at some cost.

Um I'm not beating up the idea based on on the cost necessarily, but it let's be um moving forward.

Let's be transparent about what those costs would be.

Um a question though for David.

Um did we did did the previous state of the county routine did that morph over the course of maybe a couple chairmanships into the retreats?

I think they did.

I think that's what happened.

And um the retreats turned into a very subject matter specific kind of intentional convening uh hosted by the the chair, and it was kind of the chair working with the CO's office develop what the agenda would be.

So I'm just wondering whether whether or not the current chair, Chair Rodriguez envisions returning to state of the county to replace the retreat, or would there be a state of the county in the spring and a retreat at the end of the year?

Those are some of the things that come to mind here.

I'm not sure how to do that.

I can answer that.

I can I just answer both those.

So the host would be a chamber of commerce, which will allow one of our chambers in our districts to be able to do fundraising for them.

They would handle um the sponsorships, they would handle tickets, and they would also handle the catering.

So it would be no cost to the to the county.

As far as uh a state of the county and a retreat, um, I I personally don't see why we can't have both.

One of the things that has been very ex sort of exciting about the retreat is that you take a specific uh, you know, something within the county that's specific to be able to delve down into it.

I don't think it has to be an all-day thing, but it can be um, you know, mornings, morning session type of event um that allows us to really address or talk about um in further detail um a topic that is important to the chair at the time.

Supervisor Desmond.

No, thank you.

Uh well thank you for proposing this because I uh for some time felt that it would be appropriate for us to do a state of the county, and I think we should talk about some of the details.

I do think there's going to be a cost, and I think we should do it right.

I mean, you know, I I think maybe we we stopped doing it because of budgetary concerns, but what look, we're the largest local government in Northern California.

We are uh urban county, eighth most populous county, and we do more urban, so provide more herbs and urban services, frankly, than the city of Sacramento.

And I think we have to highlight that not only our social services role, but our municipal services role, like what we've been talking about today with our our land use role and being a friend of housing.

So I'm very supportive of it, supportive of it.

I but I also don't think we should, I I'm very sensitive to the cost, especially in this climate that we're facing right now.

But I also don't want to do something that is uh, you know, kind of small time.

I want to do something that's reflective of the uh the importance of Sacramento County and reflective of the complexity and the um profound impact we have on people's lives throughout the county.

So, yeah, um that one of the um conversations with uh a Folsom Chamber of Commerce who be who would be the host is definitely locations is always one of the challenges because we don't have very many big spots, but there is a location we have that could fit 300 or maybe a little more than that.

So supervisor Hume.

Thank you, Chair.

Yeah, I it's not codified or sanctioned, but I do a uh state of the county for the Alcrove chamber uh every year where I allow them to use my likeness and advertise that I will be speaking and providing at least an update on on what uh what I'm doing.

Is there a bobblehead involved?

No bobbleheads and and no uh lucrative contracts, but um I certainly support the the effort and the idea of it, and uh I think location and the one thing that I would want to uh do is make sure that um all chambers uh you know feel that that is available to them, um particularly our ethnic chambers and others that maybe don't represent a geographical uh area but do represent uh a demog um demography, if that's a word.

But anyway, um I'm in support of the idea of it, but I would just caution that even when you say there is no cost to the county, the expectation is that staff will attend and show their support, and so that is uh, you know, not a bottom line cost, but it is a a workload cost.

So thank you.

All right, thank you.

And that is it.

So we will now adjourn the board of supervisors meeting at 10 54.

And we have closed session.

And we will be off to close session.

Adjourn to closed session.