I'm going to go back to the Law Commission to order.

Shell, can you please take full call?

Stephanie Hulsage.

Here.

Christine Casey.

Here.

Dr. Anthony D'Avigie.

Richard Hurr.

Eugene Link.

George H. Markman.

Here.

Dr. Antony D'Avigie.

Here.

Any more white sets?

We have a forum.

Thank you.

And do we have any members of the public who would like to give public comment at this time?

I'm going to go back to the forum.

I'm going to go back to the forum.

I'm going to go back to the forum.

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Yeah.

We're going to also do around an introduction to the commissioners that are approved.

So we'll set on the left with Jacqueline.

Hello, everyone.

My name is Gage Marching.

I'm a Sacramento County representative.

And I am an attorney.

I practice land use environment law law.

Christine Casey representative for Sacramento County.

I am a W secretary for freight policy at the California State Transportation Agency.

I'm Stephanie Hulstage.

I'm a senior environmental scientist with the state water board.

And I represent the city of Sacramento.

I'm Eugene Lee appointed by the city of Bill Groove.

Retired from the California Energy Commission.

I'm Tony Karee.

Retired.

Pediatrician from Kaiser permanent.

J representing the state of Sacramento.

Thank you.

And the next item on the agenda is a presentation on drop sidewalk.

Vending for events.

So we'll hear from the environmental management department.

So I'm going to take the presentation.

And I'll take the presentation.

Like Janaya on I stereo the director and Orlando.

The program is for.

The first.

I saw this.

I think guys are also absolutely the other.

They also have a presentation from department of finance or Jacob and.

And person vibration.

Please.

Hello.

Environmental.

Commission.

Thank you so much for having us here.

So the couple change in.

I'm going to do a presentation.

I'm going to do a presentation.

And a staffing.

In terms of who will be presenting his presentation tonight.

So my name is Janaya Monastero and the director for the environmental

management department.

With me is Rolanda Villarreal.

He is the division chief for environmental health or food safety program.

Lord Jacobson could not make it tonight.

So Chad Rindy, director department of finances here.

You will be presenting that portion.

And Liz Bellis from parts.

I'm going to start with and then make it tonight either and so.

I'll be presenting that part for her.

So without further ado, we're going to jump into our presentation for the proposed

sidewalk lending regulations that will be brought to the board.

Tomorrow.

For consideration and we can go over to Chad.

To get started.

Well, thank you for having me here tonight.

Chad Rindy, director of finance.

And so as Janaya mentioned, we're here to talk about a proposed sidewalk

and the

board of supervisors

for their consideration tomorrow.

We'll talk a little bit about the sidewalk

vending our process to get an ordinance approved.

The different sections of the ordinance,

there is a piece that affects

the business regulation,

which is business licensing within my department.

The compact bubble food operation,

which is managed by environmental management,

and then vending in regional parks.

Hence some changes in our ordinance around regional parks.

We'll talk about our proposed approach to implement the ordinance.

I will go about enforcing those rules,

and of course there'll be some time for my questions at the end.

I do have to leave at 7 p.m.

and I apologize for I've taken out for my daughter for basketball.

So hopefully you can grill me with all the business

licensing questions before then.

So sidewalk vending,

the definition of sidewalk vending is anyone who sells food or

merchandise from a cart, a stand, a display,

it could be a pedal driven cart,

a wagon, a showcase, a rack.

It does not include motorized vehicles,

such as food trucks.

And sidewalk vending is,

is eventually that it's people that are vending

on the public right of way that could be a sidewalk

that could be pedestrian pass by the path,

things equip a little to that as well,

or the public parks as we talk about

a little bit later today.

So sidewalk vending,

the state did change the regulations around sidewalk vending

a few years ago.

And the goal of our ordinance is to provide a clear pathway

for the people that want to vend on the sidewalks,

that want to sell there,

to be able to get license to do that,

while balancing that with having self-health and safety

for the public.

Our sidewalk vending ordinance,

business licensing only regulates the unincorporated areas

of the county,

as opposed to environmental management,

that does county-wide.

The foundation for this is the state in 2018,

did approve the Safe Sidewalk Vending Act,

that basically requires local jurisdictions to allow

sidewalk vending.

We are no longer allowed to ban it locally,

but we are allowed to have a framework for how to do that

in a safe manner for the public.

The way to do that is going through an adopting an ordinance.

And so there's three different sections to our ordinance,

one for business licensing,

one for the management, one for parts,

in our ordinance as well.

And each of those are managed by the respective departments,

but this is something that we are working very closely

and collaboratively on amongst our departments,

because adopting a sidewalk vending court

is will have implications for those that are vending food,

those are the vending of parks.

They are connected,

headspinning forward,

this package of regulations all at one time

to our board for consideration.

So we'll talk a little bit now about sidewalk vending

business licenses.

And so there's two different types of business licensing

for thought-out vending.

There's two licensed categories,

one is a stationary sidewalk vendor that someone

who is vending at the same location on a regular basis.

So we would license them,

essentially over that location.

A roaming sidewalk vending is a vendor

that could move from place to place.

So this is,

and the picture is a someone who might be vending

from a car, vending from a bicycle driven car,

someone who is moving around and typically only stopping

to complete that transaction,

and then they'll continue to move

until they find additional customers

to be able to vending to.

Okay.

For sidewalk vending,

there are certain operational requirements.

We talk a lot about operational requirements,

and this is really to put some boundaries for that purpose

of health and safety to make sure they're vending

in locations that are proper that aren't going to cause

a health and safety issue.

So the first one is to not abstract the free passage

of pedestrians from sidewalks or to block entrances.

We want to keep our sidewalks and our businesses ADA

accessible, not vending near construction zones

or zones that are having some type of traffic control

where we wouldn't want an additional traffic situation

being created there,

where they might obstruct visibility within intersections

or roadways, operating in areas that have either already

a temporary experiment or areas that have a certified

farmers' market.

There's already a way to get permitted.

What we've already permitted,

somebody else to operate there.

And that's we would not want to have sidewalk vending

out there as well.

And then we'd not want to to serve customers

from a location that needs traffic as well.

We want to make sure there's that free flowing of traffic

to allow people to access the business

and also to get to their destinations unimpeded.

To effectuate this,

we've got a number of operating locations

where we put restrictions around.

The restriction that we propose

are 200 feet from any library,

police station or government building,

100 feet from any outdoor dining patio or dining area,

20 feet from crosswalks, 45 feet from a bus stop before.

So there's that visibility there

and then five feet after 15 feet from any fire hydrant driveway

or driveway apron 10 feet from any business

during business hours, 18 inches from the edge of a curb

to provide minimum passage.

And then any other location that would create

a dangerous situation,

kind of a broad catch-all.

And then approaches up to a vehicle or pedestrian bridge.

Those are areas of additional concern.

And then sidewalks with slopes that are greater than 5%.

So if there is a significant hill,

we wouldn't want people with a cart to try and stop

and transact there because it could create a safety issue.

And then on the bicycle pathway itself,

it would be an area that would be restricted.

So it talks about really the where someone

can operate for safety reasons.

And then this slide will talk a little bit about

some of the things that they can't do

is it relates to their current or their stand

to maintain safety.

So we are going to put lights, forms

or music as part of the vending activity.

It's intended for vending, not other

and solar activities that are unrelated to the vending,

selling certain goods that are traditionally restricted,

such as alcohol, lottery, cannabis, tobacco,

weapons, things of that nature.

Not want someone to be selling it in that type of form.

They're not supposed to use freestanding signs.

We're trying to keep them kind of somewhat contained

in the existing sidewalk vendors that can just

throw out with their signage or with other things,

tables and chairs and things of that nature.

So we want to keep them contained.

And so we require them to not set up tables, chairs

and have just a chair for personal use.

And that shouldn't be connecting to other power sources,

water sources or others.

The cart or what they're using should be kind of contained

to their space.

As far as the approach to permitting sidewalk vending,

each sidewalk vendor would need to get a business license

to operate prior to the beginning of vending activities.

That license would be issued to either their home

or mailing address where they reside.

If people want to come into the area to vending,

they live outside the area.

We would still license them.

If they're conducting the vending activity

and on an incorporated Sacramento County.

And we're proposing a fee for our poorest consideration

of $61 annually for that.

Related to sidewalk vending, the state log prescribes

what the administrative penalty schedule is.

If people either don't get license and operate

or if they are operating and violate a health

and safety condition.

And so we do have a scheduled board measure of fines

that is set by the state.

In the legislation, it does allow those fines to be reduced.

If they are to become licensed within 10 days of violation,

that amount is reduced substantially

with the intent of bringing people that are performing

exactly really into a licensed manner and a safe manner

of conducting this business activity.

And there is a clock that resets

if they don't have violations within a 12 month period.

And so I'm going to head it off now to Rolando

to talk about within the UBRL sidewalk vending.

There's sidewalk vending.

It could be merchandise.

And then there's sidewalk vending to get involved food.

And that's where Rolando is a specialist

and I'll talk about that in the next week.

Jack, we can even roll on a video.

I'm an EMD, I am Vision Chief.

And so the role of EMD, the question

is to ensure that to just say put the assumption

and it's the minimum standard set

for the California Utilance Account.

Some of the things that we look for are temperature control

storage, measure those adequate handwashing,

sanitation of course, and food is coming from the source.

And then, I'd channeled with this earlier.

In 2018, SB946, the same sidewalk vending act

was passed as a result type of vending operation

didn't increase.

And not just, you know, not just food,

but not food, right items as well too.

We've seen so far in Sacramento County,

as we have seen some increases since the law was passed.

In 2022, SB972 was passed in less compliance

with some of the separate vending that is going on

within the county and oddly statewide.

So there was a new category that was added

to the retail food code and that is a compact

and low-fuming operation.

Basically, it's a mobile facility that operates

from an individual or a push card,

a standard display case, any pedal driven wagon,

a card that's showcase or any non-motorized conveyance.

The permitting required, so under 6.05,

which is going to be added.

So anyone engaged in kind of,

for themselves, must obtain a Alpramir from EMD, right?

There is an exemption that is for pre-packaged food,

this less than 25 square feet of space.

That's, you know, a non-potentially hazardous uncooked produce,

I think a bit as a five by five feet by five feet table

with pre-packaged food, water or chips or have not.

So at Alpramir is required,

they must have an approved commissary,

must conduct limited with a call limited food prep,

not just basically means just assembling a food,

provide overhead protection, provide accessible,

so water or handwashing, we're washing

and also a way to ensure that there's proper temperature control

to such a refrigeration unit.

So there is an annual health inspection

that will be conducted as well too.

Some of the examples of the health code violations that we see,

we see a lot of unpermitted food bending

without proper handwashing, obviously no permits,

not a way to wash dishes or handwashing,

even probably go to use no temperature control,

lack of water and lack of accessible to any restrooms.

We're about to enter the restroom.

The cards wouldn't have a restroom.

There.

Yeah, the should be a restroom that's closed by,

at least been 20 feet.

So some of these things that we find often

are just complete stands and cards that are just popping up

in a corner of X and Y.

And so most of them do not have access to any restrooms

or proper water sources or a way to, again,

to wash their hands and to wash dishes

and obviously then proper glubbies

and improper holding of hot and cold temperatures.

So these are some of the things that we've seen.

That's a hero machine or grill,

stack the normal refrigeration.

We also have riddles and hot holding units,

really no temperature control,

just when we obviously see it.

So it's become a challenge for not just the department

but the county and also the specialists

when they're having to deal and try to educate

and try to have that interaction with not just the vendor

but also the public as well too.

So we see a lot of these tents.

When this one, I believe this one is actually

in the city of Sacramento.

We do partner up with the city settlement

but of course then to address some of these topics

that's occurring within the city itself.

The photo next to you, to the right is actually

a new hot band, it's been rented.

And so there is no refrigeration unit.

Everything there is warm.

There is no, yeah, it's not cold tap all this, just up to tap.

The photo to the left is what you may see

when you come out of the Golden One Center

is these hot dog vendors.

That photo, is that a laser?

Super.

But the photo in the circle,

if that's just a hot dog with bacon wrap

and the bacon's actually mold.

It's now frozen or anything,

that is mold on that hot dog.

And so the right, I think that is a van

where all these cards were stored.

And again, there's no refrigeration unit.

There's no way for any way for them

to keep time and temperature control.

So those are things that is a concern,

is a public health concern for our division

and the Department of State County.

But you wouldn't be the one just trying to notify you

outside of the Golden One Center,

City of Sacramento,

we're assuming that the second ordinance,

for you also.

So in terms of food that food safety

and in terms of permitting,

so our code allows us to be in the incorporate

and unincorporated.

So we work together with the City Code of Horsemen

to address DC.

Yes.

Just have a quick follow up.

The rest of the card, I'm confused because

it wasn't in part of any other requirements

about the question.

Well, yeah, there is a requirement

under six point five.

For the food section of it,

for what we,

For what about restaurant?

Yeah, not just restaurant,

but they are, they do have a card

and it's permitted.

It's all the access to the restaurant.

Now that could be 211 way or somehow agreement

with the nearby business.

But a restaurant is required.

Think about like a park restaurant

or something like that.

I'm gonna have to defer that pro question to you.

We'll talk about it.

Okay.

I feel like this first part was like the,

I get your point Anthony with,

it seems very like limited.

And the first part Chad was talking more about sidewalk

bending in terms of like,

see somebody wants to sell some hats or flowers

or something that's not edible

and much more restrictive conditions on.

But I am trying to figure out like,

you have to be so far from a business.

Can you still be 20 feet to a restaurant?

And I'm sure you've thought about that

and mapped out what actually.

And that's a really good question

that is part of the application.

And so, and you're absolutely right,

Christine in terms of sidewalk bending

is a larger umbrella, it's a larger picture

and that's all kinds of merchandise.

And so it falls under that.

So under the food code,

there are a lot of requirements

on what restaurants need to do.

And so what in order to allow the sidewalk

bending for these food vendors,

the retail food code had to be amended

to have this category,

this compact mobile food operation.

And they have the requirements

are specific to those operations.

So they do need to have access to restrooms,

but they can have it be 200 feet away.

If there's two individuals on the,

the standard of the cart,

one can go to the restroom

while the other one stands and man's the cart.

So that's allowed as well.

So the restroom is not for the customers?

You know what that is.

So they cut it,

that's a great, great clarification point.

Yeah, the restroom is for the operators

of the compact mobile food operation

so that they can wash hands

using the restroom before.

And you advance to parks.

All right, so I'm going to fill in for this.

Don't grill me too hard

because this is her, her halo X,

so if there's questions that I can't answer,

I certainly can get that information

far from and bring it back to you.

So when spending in regional parks,

it is very clear,

that's be 946 that the local jurisdiction

and local government cannot ban,

then being in park.

However, parks can create a concession agreement

and then that way they can control

how many vendors in the park

and where that ending is occurring.

So that's what regional parks is doing.

And they put out a request for proposal in RFP

to be able to develop a sidewalk

ending concession agreement.

And so with a fast one question

about a ending near the public impact

and that would be part of that concession agreement

because they'll have that set up

within that agreement.

So the RIP committee

consists of the Sacramento County Regional Park staff,

American River Parkway Advisory Committee

and directly get registered.

So there's a question in that positive

concession agreement

so that there can be time,

manner, place requirements based on ending

and regional parks.

And they're really wanting to make sure

that the enjoyment of the parks

is not competed by the beginning activities

and that there are some restrictions

or some guard rails about that activity.

So I'm going to pause there.

There are no questions about regional parks.

I so for the parks,

I need to set up a little bit

and maybe the food vendors in general

will include city areas,

but will the parks,

those will only be county parks

or the local parks person

will buy the city parks as well.

So you can help me out with this one.

Sure.

So the parks order

does only apply as to county parks

what Liz is adopting.

It's our approach of trying to develop concession agreements

because then you have an operator

that you deal with regularly

that you know the hours, the time, the matter

that they're going to set up

rather than having a free for all in your parks.

If you will, that is a little bit manageable to balance

the business side of things

with the enjoyment of parks

and natural resources

that the city could regulate its own use of parks.

And so that would be for any of the city

something for them to consider

in their own sidewalk bendy board

that says how they regulate that in their park sense.

The other question is on parks.

I got a question.

All right.

So I'm going to talk about implementation and enforcement.

Here.

So the planned approach is to have an education poster

felt when we find that that is very successful

is to provide education outreach to the bending community

so that they are able to understand

what the regulations are to be compliant

with business licensing requirements

and also in the CMFO

bending food, the CMFO requirements.

So we've engaged in the coordinated approach

to the various county departments,

economic development, business licensing,

environmental management, and regional parks

is really coming together to provide all this information

to the bending community.

So the license that would be required

is a state seller's permit,

a local business license

and then a health permit that food is being sold.

And then there's the operational requirements,

location, operational safety, food safety,

health food is being sold

and concession agreements

they're cooperating with the CMFO parks.

And all of these training opportunities

we're looking at providing to the bending community

and doing extensive and robust education

and outreach efforts.

So our enforcement process is based

on the scope of non-compliance and jurisdiction

really focusing on multi-agency coordination

because that is really to have a successful program

that's what we've required.

I'm going to talk about,

I'll get to it just a minute

with our enforcement strategy,

but I did want to touch upon

briefly roles and responsibilities.

When we talked about all these different departments

and we thought that it would be a great way to show

kind of what the rules are

of each one of these departments.

So when it comes to sidewalk bending,

so we have business licensing

which will review approved and I

bending business license.

And this is for all types of bending.

So hats, flowers, t-shirts,

and then of course, if they're selling food.

A lot of what we see is food,

but there is all different types of merchandise bending

that can occur in these sidewalk bending scenarios.

We talked a lot about environmental management department

and this is the issuance of the health permit

for those who are selling food.

We'll also be conducting compliance inspections

and then ensuring that enforcement measures are undertaken.

Parks and Recreation will be working

on a concession agreement.

So that's their role with the regional parks.

Code enforcement may have invested

issues as it relates to Sacramento County Code.

Sheriff's Office may become involved

for trespassing on private property

that were part of the issue that was occurring.

And economic development is our partner

to conduct community outreach and support training.

So we're utilizing their department

as well to really reach out to the community.

So enforcement strategies.

So what does enforcement look like?

I do want to say that the enforcement mechanisms

that I'll be talking about are very clearly laid out.

So S2946, the Safe Sidewalk ending act

and the California Reach Out Food Code.

So all these numbers here and what can occur

for first-second additional violations that are cited

all laid out and defined by those two state laws.

So this isn't something that business licensing

or E&D decided upon, but again, it was a state law.

So operating without a valid business license,

$250 for the first, $500 for the second,

$1,000 for each additional.

Violations to the business license,

actually let me back up.

On that first section here was operating without a valid

business license, those are the three for second and third

and it's all within one year of the first.

So after a year, then it starts over.

So it does keep rolling for a long period of time.

The second part, underneath the line,

is violations that are cited for code violations

to business license and think where the health forbid.

And they're similar, but they're a little bit different.

So business licensing code violations are $100, $150, $200,

again, within one year of the first.

And for health permit and CMFO requirements,

it is a notice of violation first,

then $100, $200, and it's cut off,

and it's $500, and that would be the fourth.

And again, all within one year of the first.

So for us at EMD, this is countywide,

all food operations, sidewalk food operations,

we start working on a violation,

really get them into compliance,

and then we can move into a monetary penalty

for non-compliance.

There are certain number of requirements

and after which a license would be

for a quality.

I believe you have one.

Yeah, so from the business license standpoint,

we can revoke, we're both,

but it would depend on the conduct,

so we can either suspend or revoke.

So if it was minor violations,

we'll generally move up that administrative fee schedule.

If we have a major violation, we can move to revoke.

And so it just depends on the scenario.

If there's obviously repetitive health and safety concerns

that are being created where we feel that conduct is egregious,

we could consider moving for revocation

rather than a work gradually through the whole administration,

penalty schedule, that really depends

on what the conduct of the businesses.

Probably the career.

And this is a new area.

So I can't envision all the egregious type of conduct

that a sidewalk bending entity could create.

Obviously, we're just selling illegal merchandise.

We probably, as we talked about,

they're not supposed to sell alcohol cannabis,

tobacco things like that.

We probably wouldn't want a license business out there

with a license if they're clearly violating those core issues.

But if they're a little bit too close to the fire hydrant,

it's probably going to work slowly

if the administrative fee schedule.

And so we have to be scenario by scenario,

how we move up our enforcement approach.

I would like to add that EMD does have the ability

to impound food, so who that is considered contaminated

and fit for consumption, we can have that destroyed.

And so we often, in many of our operations,

where we collaborate with the city departments and whatnot

for some of these food vendors,

it is obvious that we're not able to let them continue

to sell the food it needs to be destroyed.

It's a good compost.

And I'm just kidding.

The laundry?

I'm really happy.

Unfortunately, it's not there at this time.

We don't require it to be repaired.

We can compost our food waste.

I know you should be beholden to that as well.

A lot of our operation is within the city of Sacramento.

And so we have not had that destruction as of yet.

And in terms of what we do after food

are confiscated and impendent.

And so with the city of Sacramento,

city code enforcement does handle that confiscated

or food to be destroyed.

And so we have had conversations with waste management

for the county area with unincorporated.

And so that would be the method

of disposal that it would go for composting.

It's not allowable for it to go into the truck.

I have a concern about the food vendors

going into the parkway where there's wild animals.

And I'm wondering if there's some kind of discussion

that has to place about animals eating food

that's been discarded, either in the trash

or people wanting to feed the dots

or just constantly about.

And also the wrappers on the food if it's discarded

and that the animals can get it.

Has there been that discussion?

It too.

So I don't know if it's gotten to that level of pizza,

but there's a couple things I think for a link to that.

One is that as part of our settlement

of any regulation there required a trash receptacle

or a place to dispose of waste.

So that is something that they should be accounting for.

And we want to make sure they have that,

especially if they're vending food.

In the instance of regional parks,

I think that's part of the reason with the parkway

that they can't vend it up pedestrian or bicycle paths.

So there shouldn't be in the middle of the pathway.

But also the approach that was talked

about for getting a concession agreement.

So that there's vendors that have approved spaces

where they could be located so that we can make sure

that they have those facilities.

So hopefully things are being probably disposed

so it's not getting out of areas

where it can be accessed by animals or other.

I think that's very important.

And you talk about your general process.

I know that there's some limitations in needing to follow

what statue lays out.

Then there's probably a lot of flexibility to that.

So how did EMT and business licensing develop this draft

ordinance and what sort of public outreach were there?

I'm more familiar with the state regulatory process

and the common great.

So you could just give us a very great overview

of that outreach and engagement that you had during the process.

So the outreach engagement we had is

we did look at a number of model ordinances.

There's a lot of jurisdictions

both locally in the state that have already embarked

on this process.

So we tried to get lessons learned from those

that have already done it.

But we did hold two public outreach sessions

in the last couple of weeks with the business community

to get their feedback on the proposed regulations.

We also did outreach through

and listening to that set with me.

There's a regional parks advisory board

and I know I'm not calling it the right term,

but there is an advisory board

that provides guidance into the operations

in the regional parks.

So we went before them and previewed the regulations that

we have before you today.

We're obviously here before you tonight.

And then an ordinance or rule change

at the county level requires two different readings.

And so our first reading,

our first global order of supervisors is on Tuesday

where they can consider the regulation at that session.

There's the opportunity for public to submit

either written comments or to come before the board of

the super president and provide their two minutes

of testimony.

And then the board can direct staff

do they like what we put forward?

And then they move it to a second day for adoption

or do they want staff to make changes?

And so depending on our board direction,

we may have to go back and make changes or it'll continue

to the next board meeting where then it would be considered

for final adoption.

And then there's 30 days to have to pass

before it becomes an effect.

And it would be kind of a county local regulation

that we could enforce.

And I don't know if I missed any.

Thank you, Cover, just about.

Oh, that would not be.

Can I just wanted to add quickly the SB946

and SB970 GSA Park Fending Act

and also the mutual food code are very clear

on what the ordinance can look like

and what information can,

what the local agency can it cannot do?

So for NMD for 6.05,

that is we're pretty much adopting the entire retail food

code.

We don't have ability to change that.

So that enforcement structure that I provided

is exactly from the retail food code,

the requirements for CMF, though,

exactly from the retail food code.

So we're a line in county code with retail food code.

And as far as the business licensing section

and a lot of those requirements, again,

it's very clearly laid out in the Safe Sidewalk Fending

Act, what a local agency can do

and what they cannot do.

So we had to adhere to that.

So it's very closely related to that.

Then the direction that you receive from the board

for any iterations or changes that are allowed

within current law, do you,

is there another public process or is it,

is that only at the discretion or direction of the board?

They might say like, we've heard from our constituents

in the business community that this is a working

and we want you to reengage or is it more

of an internal process for any changes

and then representation of the board?

It's usually based off the level of changes in the direction.

And so I brought up prior ordinance before them

that they adopted 95% of and there was a 5%

that they kind of gave direction on here

is what we'd like to had.

And then we crafted additional regulation

that are on that piece and then communicate

with the business community here

is what we anticipate doing here.

And so they had depends on the level of change

we're directed to do and the timeline

which would guide staff on how much more outreach is needed.

So we're really followed or direction on what the outcome

is that of how much additional work may or may not be needed.

And we've been at this for a little while.

So we're hopeful we hit the mark.

But if we didn't, then we'll evaluate what staffs are next.

That's helpful.

Thank you.

Yes.

One of the operational requirements is prehibiting light.

So are there limitations on time of use,

on the operation?

Yeah, the time of operations, the way that the law has written

is that they're allowed to operate consistent with businesses

in that same area.

And so if that business corridor normally operates

from let's say 8 to 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.

or something of that nature, we wouldn't want someone

to operate a business community where everything is closed

and they're really the only thing operating.

But that's the only restriction.

And I think the prohibition on lights is really,

we don't want flashing lights or things

that are going to be a distraction.

Because these are things that are adjacent to areas

where you have motor vehicles, you have people passing.

We want to maintain that safety.

But if it's dark, they can have a light.

I'll have to check exactly our language on that.

I think our intent was more on the type of flashing lights

or lights that present a distraction

for the transportation corridor.

I think some of the lights that are used

for example are string lights.

So having string lights that are connected,

so it's illuminating large areas.

So a light at the operating center

would likely be OK.

But then those additional lights

that are looking for the native area and the bigger area.

That would be a distraction to pedestrians.

Right.

It's a station.

So it's possible that there are different lighting standards

and illumination standards possibly.

OK.

Yes.

Well, I want to see what they're looking for.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah, cooking in the dark.

It's not healthy.

I don't know.

It's for murder or outrage.

I think it's to be, are they limited

to be on the roads or can they go along the trails?

To have their non-motor vehicles like the push cars.

So for the, you're talking about the parks.

Around the parkway.

So within the regional park,

they'll be looking at creating concessioning.

So within those concessioning agreements,

that it's specified areas where bending will occur.

So even if you go to the parks, there's certain areas

where the vendors are already, already located.

And so that's what the extended to do.

That they have that agreement.

And so this is where you're going to bend.

This is how you do your location for bending.

So really keeping them off of sidewalk.

I'm sorry, not sidewalks, but pass,

like pass, other areas that can be.

It's to be disminded.

I'm sorry.

We're the public.

And I think we're intruding on the committees

flying to ask their questions and things.

So when would you like to raise our hands?

Yeah.

I know.

But yeah, I'll ask the mere question from them.

I'll call you guys.

Thank you.

I think you're right.

That's OK.

I'm going back to your outreach.

You said you did outreach to the business community.

Is that the business community in general?

Or did you do outreach specifically to sidewalk vendors?

Well, I think the challenge that we have now

is we don't have a sidewalk bending licensing program

on the business licensing side.

So we don't clearly have a already list of people

that want to be in this space.

We would shut the business community broadly

through our property business improvement districts

to our chambers of commerce through public information.

We had press releases on the sessions.

We're going to hold to try and get that out there wisely.

Advocacy groups, community groups, business watch groups.

But so was there any contact with business,

or with vendors specifically sidewalk vendors?

We only had a handful of prospective vendors that

have engaged.

And you mentioned that you've been at this a while.

But I thought you said you only had the business outreach

in the last couple of weeks.

Was that outreach to sidewalk vendors earlier than that?

We did outreach to the business community a couple of weeks ago.

We did outreach to regional parks, I think,

in early December.

And then before that in October, November,

Australia, our internal work to do crafting

the regulations or proposed regulation.

So while you were crafting the proposed regulations,

you didn't work with the business community

or the sidewalk vendors?

We largely did not, because it's the law.

So restrictive in this area, we don't have a lot of judgment.

And so that's one of the reasons that we

did not do a robust stakeholder session up front

to say what would you like the regulations to look like?

Because if you're very limited in what the state allows

the regulation to look like, you may be giving

the false impression that you have a car

watch ability to craft something that you can.

But with the areas that you do have flexibility,

are those extent to, for example, the list of restrictions,

like 10 feet of a business or that list of restrictions,

or were those some of the things that were preordained for you?

Some of those are preordained, but some of

those are interpretation of what presents a health and safety

risk.

The state does not define every health and safety

risk that is conceivable that could occur with sidewalk

vendors.

And so staff have had to try and look at what are some health

and safety risks that this would impose?

And then how do we try to prevent that to keep people safe?

OK.

With the, so I understand the business license

is an angel license.

But then the permits.

How long do the permits run for?

You're talking about the CMFO permit,

the compact mobile food operation?

Would the health permit?

Yeah.

So that's an annual permit as well.

And we currently have four categories of mobile food

permitting categories.

And so we looked at the one that closely fits a CMFO,

and we're going to use that one as a DMO.

And it's $381.

$381.

And we currently have 16 compact mobile food operations

that have been permitted with us.

So we feel really good about that, that we're getting the word

out there and getting those facilities permitted.

So we're utilizing that permit category.

Next year, we're going this year, actually,

we're working on our fee evaluation

to bring to the board to see if that's an adequate fee.

If it should be changed in any way,

then that'll be part of the package.

Are the licenses and the permits?

Do they restrict the geographic area

that the vendors can operate?

And well, I guess, do they?

They're good.

So the business license, the business license

is good for Sacramento County, unincorporated Sacramento

County.

The cities have their own, potentially,

their own business license that they would require.

The health permit is good for the entire county.

And some counties may allow for other health permits

from other counties to come into.

There's us to be made to be seen.

OK.

So I thought one of the things, or maybe that was only

the regional parks, but I thought one of the concerns

was too many vendors in one place.

Is that only with the parks and your concession

agreements?

Or is there any sort of control for that?

There's an additional control in parks

because you have to be there's this dual concept of managing

the park for recreational and enjoyment purposes.

But in other business or economic corridors,

the law specifically doesn't allow us

to tap the number of licensees.

So if one of these wants to set up

on every corner of the intersection,

they can't.

There's no prohibition of how concentrated they can be.

When you come, sorry, one last question,

when you come back and do the fee evaluation,

as part of that process, will you

do more robust stakeholder engagement

with the sidewalk vendors?

We are planning on a varied robust education efforts

in these spaces.

And this ordinance comes into play.

We are looking at a varied robust education efforts.

And so we want that we want the business community,

CMF community, to be able to get a permit

of this as a pathway.

So they're able to be permitted to our office.

And we will be engaging with them so that they are

clear what the requirements are.

And they're able to be permitted for their operations.

But when you come back and do your evaluation of the fees,

and I think you said next year, when you do that process,

will you engage the stakeholders in advance of that process?

And so that'll be part of the larger P package.

And so we have upwards about 300 and something permit fees.

And so we do a whole education outreach push for that.

And so yes, that will be included in there.

I think you're asking for all of our fees

when we're doing our evaluation.

Yeah, I guess my concern is just,

it seems like the county just developed this based on,

looking at examples and based on the restrictions you had.

But in that process, it doesn't sound like there

was any opportunity for the people

who will be affected by it as far as the vendors

to be involved in the process.

And I'm interested in you had a lot of limitations around it.

It sounds like there was never really

a meaningful opportunity for involvement

until basically it's too late, right?

Just the last couple of weeks that the information is presented.

And so my concern is that moving forward,

the county views these stakeholders

as important entities and people to offer input

into the process would be forward,

particularly when you're talking about coming back

and assessing whether the fees are appropriate.

I certainly don't know, but my assumption is that

the value, the business numbers that are running through

individual operators is not probably very significant.

As far as when we look at fees assessed

to more brick and mortar type businesses.

So my concern is that those people are being involved

as stakeholders in the process when we come back

and start looking at that in the air.

So that's what my questions are about.

I understand that moving forward,

you have plans to do outreach and education.

But I guess my question is when you come back

to try and change things, augment the fees,

if you plan to involve that community in advance

as part of the discussion,

or if it will be the same where you structure it

and then start talking with them about it after the fact.

I think it's optimal and our ideal approach

is to try and engage feedback along the way

with our business license fees as you talked about.

And as we do provide outreach to our business community

on, you are anticipated fee changes

and there is an opportunity for engagement.

And that's something we can look at.

How do we do a better job of trying to engage?

And part of that is trying to when they get licensed,

it's optional if they want to provide us an email

or electronic contacts and ways to get in touch with them.

And that certainly is helpful.

And so we are encouraging with all our business licenses

to make sure we have an electronic form of communication

to give them informational updates periodically

when there are changes.

Yeah, I'm sure it's difficult coming into it

with no licensing and we're talking about transient businesses.

It's not like they have an address that they operate out of.

So it's not like you can send them something in the mail.

But I'm hoping that moving forward

once you get some of that information

and the licensing system,

there will be more opportunity for stakeholder engagement.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All in question about that too.

I was wondering for non-English speakers,

if you have education and outreach materials available

or how you're engaging with those communities.

Director, for?

Yeah, so for the compact model to an operation,

we do buy workshops both in English and Spanish.

So that's had occurred a few times already.

I think last year, especially when the last pass,

back in 22, 23, so we did start that process already.

And we continue to do that.

And then as we move forward,

part of our overall outreach and plan

is to continue with providing the information needed

that's necessary.

And different languages for it.

And we're recognized.

We're starting in parks and I would like to do restrictions

beyond SB946 with the parkway.

And thank you.

That would be a question I think to post till as well as

and get back to you on.

And for example, you know,

I think we'll use disposable plastics

or big problem in parkway.

But maybe allow to do some.

Under 946, 946 is sidewalk is sidewalk bend.

So that would be the bending operations.

But maybe part has some other ideas for some of the things

that you're talking about for civil use plastics

or other regulations that I did look at.

Would you give me a question?

Yeah, I have a quick question about clarification on.

Under the strict year of operating locations for sidewalk

vendors, you've had a says 100 feet from any outdoor dining

or patio dining units.

Are you focused here on commercial operations

or is this a presidential dining area, picnic area,

or whatever kind of dining facility may be out there?

I think it's mostly from the intent of commercial,

but we could apply that to other areas

or where people are dining.

And part of that is because some of these operations

involve grilling or small or other other things

that we want to make sure they have adequate distance

for their not creating other health hazards

that are traveling through the air.

So in a mixed use area, we have a commercial and residential

and the same vicinity that apply to people

may be in the second floor.

And our ordinance does.

And this may be challenge when we go look at mixed use

zoning, but it does not allow sidewalk

vendors in residential areas.

So you can't set up a station or sidewalk

vendor in a residential area.

So it's both not here in some place.

It's not referenced here, but it's in our ordinance.

I have a question about the on-reparmenting requirement.

So it says to find preventing without a license,

it's reduced to prevent our teams of business

for 10 calendar days.

So it's on how long does it typically take to obtain a license?

We would read that from the date of application.

And so we have, I think in this license category,

which we have 30 days to review.

Usually on the specialized, there's not a lot

of additional checks that may be performed.

So we're likely to issue much faster.

But we would reduce the fine if they apply for a license

and provide a complete application or the intent.

OK, so they don't have to have it.

They don't have to have it in hand necessarily.

OK, thank you.

Another question.

Are there limitations on board requirements

to have the businesses actually just operating

in second and in second and in the second.

It's all alone or are there any geographic limits or not?

They can.

No.

For the new food.

Yeah.

We don't have any limitations on where they can vent.

We just have the health permit that's

issued in Sacramento County.

And so if they want to vent in other counties,

go to Yolo County or Solano County or Acir County,

those requirements in those counties,

I think that would reply.

But it's our Sacramento and it will

that to permit will be for the entire county.

So throughout all the cities and across the country.

Yeah, I second Stephanie is recommendation on education.

And given that there's some abundance of ethnicities

in Sacramento County being very assertive, aggressive education

and addressing those populations and demographics.

I believe in education first before enforcement,

you know, they sell and whether it's in FAQs or other resources

or workshops, finally encourage that.

Thank you.

You agree with you, Alma?

Yeah.

I think that's all the questions from the commissioners.

So it seems like we have some members of the public

that would like to provide public comment at this time.

You have any questions?

What your discussion, if you know the answers,

I think it could answer.

So I'm Betsy Wyland and I'm here

representing the St. Mary-Claire University Association.

And just some good questions from the commissioners.

Thank you for that.

Just some things that you weren't clear about that I could answer.

The you're right.

This issue came before the American River Parkway Advisory Committee

in about December was formed a subcommittee.

Sarah, the American River Parkway Advisory Committee

appointed a representative to that subcommittee

to tackle this issue.

And so Mark Barry was the representative

and he couldn't attend tonight.

So I'm attending for help.

So we haven't had this issue very long.

And the American River Parkway Coalition also

in our, must have been in our November meeting.

This was brought up and there were lots of concerns

around allowing some of this in the parkway.

Also, Tony, thank you for that question

about other kinds of regulations.

So this is going to have to be, I don't know, sorted out.

But we have the American River Parkway Plan.

That state law adopted in 2010.

It's the counties of the city is a signatory.

The county is the operator manager

at the American River Parkway.

This document is the guiding document.

It's policies and information as to how

you manage and operate the American River Parkway.

And I won't go into all the details.

But we have all kinds of policies around commercialism

and the American River Parkway.

And for instance, this issue of we have areas

in the park where we don't allow barbecuing for instance.

So what kind of food bending would you prevent?

What Trump's what?

What's concerning is, let's go back

to the very fundamental issue here.

In this state law, 946, do they differentiate

or define what they're talking about with cards?

All cards are not created equal.

The American River Parkway is not a car-micro park.

The American River Parkway is a whole different animal.

And so this is concerning that this law

has kind of broadly applied all of this

in a very restrictive manner.

OK, so what is parks actually going

to be able to do through this RFP process?

Are we going to see, or instance,

that's Sudden Landy Park on this beautiful beach?

Are we going to see vendors up and down on down-times

day selling flowers and bears?

Step down.

We have the issue of, we already have an issue.

And I understand why the state did this.

They're trying to help people who want to help themselves.

That are hearts were in the right place, I think, here.

But they did not think this through, in particular,

to some instances.

And our concern is the American River Parkway.

How is this going to be managed?

We have had some vendors come to Sudden Landy Park.

We've non-English speaking vendors, lovely people

who are just trying to support their families.

And we've had to try to explain not speaking

Spanish in this instance ourselves, why they could not

keep their push-harts down onto the beach area.

OK, so number one, there is, does have to be,

tremendous education and signage.

I hope everybody's preparing for signage,

especially in the parkway.

And the signage has to be bilingual.

And there has to be for those people,

maintenance, rangers, et cetera, et cetera,

they have to have something in hand that they can hand people

for instance, about permanent.

And it has to be in, at least to Spanish, at least Spanish

in English.

Right, can you just say that?

Yeah.

And so there's just all kinds of, and this going,

I'm so happy to hear this is only a reading tomorrow

before the supervisors, because there

have been enough opportunity to really engage

with the public on this.

And there's a whole host of other issues.

OK, so as well as get the public in the room tomorrow,

or get them via email.

So thank you.

Thank you all for your good questions.

But this is, I'm just not sure how much part

does I'm be able to do, given the restricted range of the law.

Yeah, one quick comment, I'll still leave a minute.

But the rangers will have authority to enforce this.

So far, rangers will have the power to enforce violations

that occurred.

So second.

Thank you for your comments.

And I will encourage you to continue engaging.

And hopefully some of you are able to be present at the board

meeting tomorrow to share these concerns and also

to submit and writing your comments as well.

Thank you.

Thank you.

J. N. E. Would you like to put on the record

what time the presentation is tomorrow?

Yeah.

The public would like to attend.

The presentation will be scheduled for 10 30 AM tomorrow

of January 28th.

Thank you all for that.

Change the day.

Any other.

Can I.

Can I go off agenda and share concerns?

Thank you, though.

I'm beginning.

Yeah, if you go off agenda, have a tune in it.

OK.

And the commissioners cannot comment on anything

that you say.

I just want to share with you what's happening along the park

for the Singapore.

The city of war right now that for 16 years has

been close to order bill for traffic,

coming into the interior of city of war in the protected

areas where the animals are.

And after those were closed, it's now

bursting with air, coyote, all kinds of birds,

eagles, fever, otter.

And it's bursting with people, families coming in

and using these fire roads that are

designated equestrian hiking pathways.

County is planning on reopening these gravel roads

that fire roads are used for question riders.

Please walk the dogs out, manage to motor vehicle traffic.

I just wanted you to be aware of that.

And Google protects the environment.

You'll find a lot of information on it.

Thank you for coming.

OK.

Moving on to the next item on the agenda.

That's good point.

Is there an action we should be taking in this preparation

of being for the board?

Jeanette, are you looking for the commission

to submit any recommendations to the board?

The board is always welcome to submit recommendations.

Tomorrow we'll be presenting to the board.

So if there's an, however, the board or the issue

would like to proceed.

How about for the next board hearing on the matter?

And that'll be a week later, I believe.

So that'll be the next week for the second reading.

So we would definitely be supportive of any recommendations

that the commission had.

We had suggested or asked if we should have a possible action

item on our agenda.

But because the board meeting was tomorrow,

we realized there wasn't really much

that we could do in that time.

But so the next one would be the next week

unless there's need for substantial time.

And that may, depending on the board's direction

tomorrow, we may be asked to further the ordinance

or add additional or look into something.

So it may be delayed.

And I do want to point out that EMD

as far as the CMFO requirements, this law was

or became effective in 2023.

And retail food is required for any person who sells food.

Can you tell food code is for any person who sells food?

And so EMD has been doing outreach and education

ever since the law came out in 2023.

So it isn't as if food vendors were

bending without any type of education this whole time.

So we've been doing a lot of that education in outreach

and the increase in complaints and the issues

and concerns that the community had really prompted business

licensing to become involved to look at this in a broader sense

as a sidewalk bending issue.

Because there's more bending that occurs

as was dated than just food bending.

So we would definitely agree with the commission's recommendations

to continue education in outreach,

to continue engaging the community so that they're aware

of what the requirements are.

And really our goal is to provide that pathway.

We want to provide that avenue so that vendors

are bending legally and safely.

And so customers are receiving food at safe identity.

And that's really our goal.

OK, thanks.

I think you could go for a presentation.

That was very interesting.

We look forward to seeing how the board meeting goes tomorrow.

Next item on the agenda is the Sacramento County

Sustainability Update by John Lundgren.

Hello, everyone. Good evening.

You hear me OK tonight?

Yes, yes, we can.

Well, it's great to be here.

My name's John Lundgren.

I'm the Sacramento County Sustainability Manager.

Oh, for an update.

The big news, of course, I think we talked last time

that the climate action plan has been approved.

I'm happy to tell you that in a couple of days,

our county executives hosting a kickoff meeting

with all the high level staff involved with the cap.

I think we're going to have 50 to 60 department heads,

chiefs and staff who had provided

comment on the climate action plan in the board chambers

for a meeting.

And that's going to be headed by David Villanova.

That's how important this cap is to the county.

So David will be telling all of his staff that the cap is now

approved.

And it's expected that everyone be working diligently

towards the goals in the cap to reduce our greenhouse gas

emissions.

And so that's a really big thing.

And it's nice to feel really supported by our executive team.

And I thank David for putting that together.

And I'll be there with bells on.

And also we're still moving forward with reach codes.

As you know, it's one of the major things in the cap

is the county should be doing a reach code to reach past

the state building codes.

The next state building codes to come online

will be on January 1, 2026.

So we have about 11 months till that happens.

And so we've initiated a series of meetings every two weeks

internal to the county, myself, the planning director,

the chief building official to start the process

of getting those reach codes done.

I heard everything you said about outreach.

And of course, we agree and we'll be doing a tremendous amount

of outreach.

We you can expect to see us here.

You can expect to see this talked about

at the climate emergency mobilization task force.

We will not slow down on this.

There is a chance that things at the state may slow us down,

but we will be ready so long as the state energy commission

can have things ready.

And then our partners can have our cost affected

and the study is ready.

Right now, just to give you a little geeking out,

we have to wait for the software called

Sebeck to be approved by the state of California for use.

And that's the software that says that people use

to show their compliance with the California building code.

So once that software is approved,

then that lets our partners at localenergycodes.com

start doing cost-effectiveness studies and tweaking,

say, if we do this, this and this,

how does it score and is it cost-effective?

And so that's, we have a little bit of a chicken and egg thing.

We need that software approved

and then the cost-effectiveness studies

will be able to roll in.

So what we are focusing on for this time around

is new residential construction and existing residential

construction.

And again, the goal is to reach past

the California building codes a little bit

to get us a little bit more energy efficiency

so long as it's cost-effective in our single family homes

and that goal there, of course, is to drive

greenhouse gases down.

Obviously, let's see, we're coming up on April.

So the Earth Day event hosted by Ecos

will be at Southside Park in April.

The county, once again, is getting ready to staff that

through various tables and sponsorships

somewhere to come there.

I know I will be there, Janay.

I talk to you.

Last week about your desires,

I know your department will be there as well.

That really ends my update for this month.

I'm happy to provide any other information

that you guys would like to hear tonight.

John, is there a date for that April event yet?

Yes, there is.

It's on the Ecos website.

It's a Sunday.

I'd have to look it up again later in April.

Yeah, it's on the EOS Sunday, then.

And their website is eco-sacriminal.net,

www.ecosacriminal.net.

They've just posted the reserve the date.

They don't have any details yet for

reserving your tables and doing sponsorships,

but that'll be forthcoming soon.

I just received one of their executive committee agendas

or one of their, I'm not on their executive committee,

but just I think it was there,

maybe one of their regular meetings,

but they're going to be getting a report

from their director of operations, Ms. Reagan,

on the final preparations for that.

Thank you, Sam.

Thank you.

Well, that's a big one.

Does anyone do any commissioners

to have comments or questions for John?

Well, Jen, we've got the waiver,

the small afro-danger request,

which so now you cannot buy a gas-linked power leaf blower

in California anymore.

And I remember one of your Reno's gas goals

was transitioning the landscaping to electricity.

And it's any progress on that.

There's progress in the region,

the Sacramento Metropolitan Air Quality Management District

did a program last year for commercial

land scapers to do a trade-in program.

I wanted to shore that up with a residential trade-in program.

I asked for $75,000, unfortunately,

that did not make it through the budget process.

One of the concerns with that was,

as me being a Department of One executive team

was concerned that just the administration

of such a program would tap me out

and take me away from other duties.

And so it's not that the county didn't see it as important,

but they really wanted to see me focusing on other things,

seeing that cap through the process,

making sure the task force was stood up and operating well.

So it's still on my radar,

all credit to the air district

for getting their commercial program up and running.

I believe that was funded out of the state of California

Carl Moyer program or a similar type of program.

Yeah, actually I just received a notice

that the ARB found another $70 million

to do rebates for transitioning to electric.

So I think when can I send you that announcement,

they're having a Zoom meeting

and have a obtain of funds on Wednesday?

Absolutely, of course.

Okay.

And then I guess one other thing I wanted to let you know

about, I've mentioned before,

the building electrification MOU

where the city of Sacramento,

city of Elk Grove, Smud and County are part of this MOU.

We meet monthly.

That's going well.

The coordination is wonderful.

It's just really nice to work with staff

and kind of leave the inter-jurisdictional politics behind.

More importantly, I want to let you know

we've had some conversations with Smud

regarding micro grids, virtual power plants

and grid resiliency.

And so I did apply for a technical assistance help program.

We'll see where that goes at this point in time

because it was through the US Department of Energy.

Smelt also applied.

And what we're asking for is technical assistance

to look at some of the county facilities

and see about the whole micro grid, the whole thing.

Can we get some solar on the roof, some battery storage

on the ground, grid, inter-ties in order to make these places

where the county's providing services

like at the new safe stay places,

make them full resiliency centers

where they can actually have power during a grid emergency

for a period of time to provide continuity of services.

So glad to say those conversations are moving forward with Smud.

And hopefully we can see some movement happen there.

I've done a support letter for Smud on a project

proposal they had in the city of Sacramento.

It was not awarded, but the concept there was it

one of the big high schools to do electric buses

tied into solar charging power points, power ports

that had battery backup hooked into the school's

commercial kitchen.

So that depending on how a disaster went down,

which way the grid emergency was,

was it whether heat, lack of power,

you could push electrons one way or the other

from the solar to the buses, from the buses to the grid

to run the commercial kitchen vice versa,

depending where the need was based on the nature

of the disaster.

So just wanted to kind of share with you some of that inside

baseball and what staff's talking about

across jurisdictions right now.

Thank you so much.

We appreciate your update.

Next item on the agenda is a approval of draft minutes

from our November 2020 for commission meeting.

The shelter meeting,

phone call,

just someone with, oh yeah,

the touch on our budget.

I move to approve.

Okay.

A second.

And Stephanie Holtzitz.

Yes.

Christine Casey.

I, Dr. Anthony Doregi.

Yes.

Richard Khan.

Yes.

Eugene Lane.

Yes.

H. Martinez.

Hi.

Jacqueline Togas.

So.

Mark Lloyd is absent.

Listen.

Thank you.

Next item is EMT,

the third surplus.

Not too much.

Anything else?

I want to hear from you again.

Yes.

So our big effort right now,

of course, is a sidewalk bending.

So thank you all for listening to our presence.

Thank you for inviting really good feedback.

We appreciate that.

I'm going to give to the public for coming as well.

Another thing that we're doing on the vein of education

in outreach,

I did want to point out or,

or,

let you all know that we have some additional education workshops

that we are promoting,

putting out for the hazardous waste

and hazardous materials and Cuba programs.

As part of some settlements that occurred last year,

we had additional funding that we're putting to bring in

a consultant,

NES,

don't ask me what they stand for.

But they come in and they do classes.

And so we had a full house last month.

We have another full house coming up.

So we have maximum,

it did for attendees.

And these are attendees from across all different business types,

state agencies,

county agencies,

maybe from outside the county,

that operate within Sacramento

and then of course Sacramento businesses.

And so these classes are aimed at providing them

with valuable information

about how to comply with hazardous waste

and hazardous materials laws and regulations

so that they can be compliance

and understand what those requirements are.

So we are looking at doing these classes throughout the year.

We have them set up pretty much through June.

It's on our website.

Again, it's free.

And so this is our real big push to bring this information

to the regulated community

so that they have the information that they need.

We're going to be continuing after that this year.

Again, on the educated in France,

when we get into the spring,

there's all kinds of environmental health programs

that take effect.

For example, pools start to be used.

And so we have pool classes for operators.

We continue with food schools or restaurants.

All these classes are free by the way,

so we don't charge for them.

Because again, we want to make sure

that the regulated community has the information they need.

So we'll do a lot of these creatively.

So for example, when pools open up,

then we do inspections in the summer.

So we do a lot of our classes beforehand

so that they're ready for the inspection when it comes.

So when we continue that throughout the year,

I think that's the only questions for me.

That's right.

Any commissioners have questions?

Thank you.

Again, thank you.

The next item on the agenda is for

back on Commissioner Monadine as environmental issues

and agencies to any commissioners

that may leave the report.

On the public health department,

there is a website.

I don't know if we can do my best.

They have a really great issue.

Came up about the wastewater monitoring.

And there was a wastewater scan.

I don't know where it is.

Yeah, but anybody there.

I'll send it,

I'm trying to include it to anybody.

But you can look at a variety of

infectious markers in our wastewater

for respiratory and intestinal diseases.

And it's amazing.

It's really up to date that you can just like for yet.

Any, yeah, there you go.

It's saying we can go back to that.

So the news that RSVN and 1 to AMB were up

and that was probably coming from this.

Yeah, where's this major?

This is a major to meet Rachel.

And yeah, so it's a great website.

I'll send that link to it.

Yeah.

And yeah, it has a normal virus.

And several respiratory viruses

and also intestinal,

a couple of important intestinal viruses.

Just you think you can watch it by day

and see what's going on.

And spikes.

Yeah, I can't read that.

Do you know if there's some references on there

to kind of help the public assess what they're seeing?

Because like a spike now,

maybe indicative of increased disease

like two weeks ago or certain things or...

There are some links, but yeah, probably not.

Because I would probably look at me like,

oh, I should be wearing my mask today.

But it's like, wait, it probably should've been doing this.

Like two weeks ago.

Okay.

But you know what does, I mean,

because you see the spikes take a while

to go up and down.

So I mean, it gives you...

Well, that's a whole month is an idea.

But you can actually go even break it down

for a short period of day-leaf.

That's really interesting.

That's what they wanted to data on.

Yeah.

Jesus, see.

Yeah.

Again, it's kind of a little bit,

I can't see what that virus been.

Cause we're being in classes.

Right, yeah.

There's fun.

Because I think there wasn't interest in having

and not the bathroom.

Yeah, thank you.

Thanks for sharing.

Any other commissioners?

Thank you.

Yeah, there was one, the City of SAC in SACRT

just released the survey today, I think,

about like the trying to do a plan

for climate resiliency within the public transit network.

And so the survey is to just provide input,

which is due in February sometime.

I can share that with you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I just want to follow up on what I mentioned.

So California, like like eight waivers to EPA

for clean air regulations beyond what the federal ones are.

And finally, like,

generators, we did get the final six approved.

And so one of them is a small afforded engines regulation.

So to now you cannot buy guessing powder

and be afforded any more.

No, I'm sorry.

So that's the good fact.

Can you, did I already go into effect?

Yes, it actually took so long into two years

with the state of past the law and turned it down

or the government car regulations in July 1st, 2024.

So as soon as we got the EPA waiver,

then it went into effect.

And car can enforce it, but it can also be overturned.

So the waivers were coming,

the waiver provokes were coming in advance

to the federal administrative change.

There were two that did not get adopted.

California asked to, they were with you, their request.

Well, they did, but they weren't acted on.

So they used locomotive and the advanced clean fleet,

which is the medium and heavy duty use,

which is, you know, important

because we heard the presentation from the county

before about their adoption of zero-mission vehicles

and how much more difficult it is

in the medium and heavy duty space

depending on what the vehicle configuration is.

And I remember they were planning all this stuff.

So it's still, you know, there's still other laws

besides these ones that are moving us towards zero-mission,

but there's a lot of uncertainty now about, you know,

what folks are held to do, not from car,

but from other regional standards and things like that.

I did look into how these, how these waivers can be remote.

And they, because they're, we've recreated back

with the Cleaner Act.

And actually what I found was that there's no wording

in the Cleaner Act for revoking them.

And there's never been one revoked

in the industry of the Clean Act.

So we got hundreds of them in the government.

So, unless they create some new laws to revoke them,

we should be okay on the ones that were before

administration change.

Okay.

We'll, we'll, the next item in the agenda is Commissioner comments.

So we'll start with discuss forming a subcommittee

to focus on the meet and greet within the county

departments, elected officials.

I don't think we have any updates on that.

We haven't met.

No, the, the last time we met and discussed this,

we had two volunteers to form a subcommittee.

And one of them is not here tonight.

Right.

I want to, I think, I think I'd be able to.

I think I'd be able to.

So I'll say we have not had a meeting.

It's going to be.

Unless the following is.

Thank you.

That was worried I was nominated.

I'm telling you your name.

So what I was suggesting is that we have a new focus

and have a meeting next couple weeks.

Yeah.

But I would like to just suggest that we not focus on meet and greet.

I think there's a variety of steps we could take to improve our

communications book various agencies.

Yeah.

There's a young subcommittee.

I think I heard you hear.

Okay.

I think I thought there was two, but you.

Just two.

And Mark points.

And Mark.

Oh, it's on it.

Yeah.

So let's play on that.

Yeah.

Next.

That's great.

Maybe we can send up a journal.

Thank you.

Any other.

We did have a meeting of our topics.

Right.

We're trading.

So.

And so we started in.

We have.

I think we might need to follow up after we find a certain.

I have to reconfirmed.

Sorry.

We're confirmed to invitations out.

So it's pretty fluid right now.

And you guys.

And we're looking for something.

fainted weight, at least a week or two.

Until I hear back from this.

We're.

There's other two invitations and some of the ideas.

Excitedless, bug.

Think you got.

We're back from the airport.

Yeah, they're not ready.

They're just putting out an RFP for the first of consultant.

I mean, she said please.

Give us another year.

There'll be time construction.

Yeah.

People know more than people are always hesitant to present.

As soon as you know nothing, like even if you just have plans of we're not ready to do this until 2026 and this like that's even helpful, but I will respect that they don't ready, but I always just question that readiness because

posted a bunch of stuff online, yeah, and stuff like that.

It's nice to have an arena and it's all so it's upcoming.

Maybe then you need to get back to me on more specific topic.

I think maybe there's some.

Yeah, I'm missing something.

So just contact me tomorrow and then we'll get a focus.

Yeah.

Actually, you know, we have some expertise here from Sarah.

Because through the topics that came up,

I'm the American River flood control trigger local plans and you send that release part of it on the court issue and I'm not sure.

Tony can talk about that.

I'm sorry.

I'm long.

But I, but if you can I say anything.

I can get comments.

I can no interaction.

I would recommend that I can certainly send to Tony that there's a very, very powerful and active grassroots group that is welled up and you can go to art American River trees on the website.

And you can also go to Sarah's website, say the American River Association.

And I can shoot on the email with the details and you can everything you've ever wanted to know beyond that.

Is that I can actually was on the topics committee?

Yeah, no.

That's the stretch.

Okay.

Anyone else?

I'm not sure if you were aware of the passing of Valcee,

the EMD director of choir to she and he retired in 2017 and last week he passed away.

And we prepared a statement of appreciation for him back in 2017.

And what I'd like to do is read a portion of that to this commission because of his involvement in leadership that he provided so I can compare with me for a few minutes.

His role as EMD director of Valos instrumental in developing and maintaining a high level of professionalism within the EMD staff and implementation of environmental management programs.

The second amount of County.

Valos responsible for developing and implementing elements of the EMD strategic plan, which established this the direction and goals for the MD included protecting counting water resources.

Over the management clean up a hazardous contaminants achieving disaster preparedness, implementing the ongoing food protection program, accomplishing the mandates and objectives of the EMD environmental compliance environmental health divisions.

Is executive director to the SEC, Val, the Biden guidance and leadership enhancing the S.S.E.C. impact and affecting this Sacramento County environmental protection.

As the executive director of Valos, some part of the activities of commission by providing technical resources and expertise from with any MD or needing communications with other state and the C.C. Authorizing agencies at providing guidance and leadership on matters being considered by the SEC.

And all instances, Val, demonstrate the highest degree of commitment questions.

Thank you for sharing that.

If we are, would it be appropriate for us to write a condolence letter to his family?

I think very difficult to read.

Yes.

Would I, I'd never personally not have the sounds like you worked more closely with them. Would you want to, would you want to craft something that we could all sign?

Maybe you could better write in something like that.

I think, yeah, you can send from it.

I think from what you, what you have there, that would be helpful.

Okay.

Yeah.

Not good.

Not good.

Not important.

And I think it's just the next question.

We have a contact information to send on.

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