Okay.

Meaning to order is take roll call.

Stephanie hostage here.

Christine Casey here.

Dr. Anthony D'Reici here. Richard.

Yeah. Eugene Lee.

Gage.

Machine here. Megan right here.

Check line to dark.

Mark White.

Okay.

Thank you.

So the next item on the agenda is to just have all the

commissioners introduce themselves and we have a new

commissioner here Megan.

So if you want to start and just give us a little bit of

information about your background.

Sure. Yes.

So I'm Megan McGurts and I live in Miss illness.

I'm a registered nurse.

I am not here affiliated with my place.

I'm very passionate about sustainability in my personal

life.

I seek to improve sustainability at my workplace with mixed

success.

And so I was looking for an opportunity to serve the

community at large and saw this opening on the list of all of

the different commissioner openings and applied.

So excited to be here.

Thank you.

I'm Tony D'Reici a retired pediatrician from Paso

Permanente and I was working on their rival stewardship

program.

I represent the city.

I'm Richard.

I retired from a planner and I was appointed by Sacramento

County.

I'm Stephanie.

I'm a senior environmental scientist with the state water

board and I represent the city.

I'm not as well.

Christine Casey appointed by Sacramento County.

I work at the California state transportation agency.

Definitely use here on my own.

I'm a senior environmental scientist.

I'm a senior environmental scientist with the state water

board and I was appointed by Sacramento County.

I'm a senior environmental scientist with the state water

board and I was appointed by Sacramento County.

Good afternoon, everyone.

My name is Gage Marchini.

I'm an attorney with white runner.

I'm a water and environmental attorney and I am a Sacramento

County appointee.

I'm Jack.

I'm a city of Sacramento.

I'm a city of Sacramento.

I'm a city of Sacramento.

I'm a city of Sacramento.

I'm a city of Sacramento County.

I'm a city of Sacramento.

I'm a city of Sacramento.

Thank you.

Next item on the agenda is public comments.

Do we have anyone online that would like to provide public

comment at this time.

Today we have Derek Minamah.

Executive director.

Who's going to present about the capital southeast connector

Thank you again for the invitation to be here.

It's been a couple of years,

but I think I see some familiar faces.

I was just remarking earlier that the last time

we were at the office building right over on Armstrong,

which is walking distance from my office.

So the joint powers authority is a collection of five agencies.

And so we're Sacramento County, El Dorado County,

City of Folsom, City of Rancho Cordoba

and the City of El Grote.

And we were formed in 2006 for the purpose

and the single mission really of building

the Capital Southeast Connector Project.

So this is a transportation project

that's on the county's general plan.

It's on all of the general plans of the cities as well.

And it's essentially the reconstruction of Grantline Road,

White Rock Road and Canter Road.

Not gonna go through that.

So a little bit about me.

I'm a civil engineer, live right here in Fair Oaks

and I've been working with the county now

for 10, 11 years.

Prior to that, I was in the private sector

doing consulting work as a civil engineer

and I'm a Sacramento State graduate.

And I've got three kids.

So the Capital Southeast Connector,

it is a long-term four-lane expressway.

It's going to connect Interstate 5 to Highway 99

to stay Route 16 to Highway 50.

And so this is a major jurisdictional regional project

that is gonna connect four state highways.

And it's been on the books probably long-term.

It was probably conceived in the 1970s.

I mean, it's been on the books forever.

In the early 1980s, the county put out

a Southeast Area Transportation Study,

which identified the need for these connections.

And didn't really go anywhere,

but I would say in the late 1990s and early 2000s,

the Regional Transportation Planning Organization,

known as SACOG, took up a study

to advance this concept of a regional expressway

around the Southeast County.

And so it went through that SACOG planning process.

That's called a Metropolitan Planning Organization.

It's kind of like a federal designate of transportation.

And it was put before voters in 2004.

So in 2004, there was a measure put on the Sacramento

County ballot, countywide, called Measure A,

that included this project.

And it was passed by voters like 74.6%.

So that was back in 2004.

In 2006, the three cities in the two counties formed the JPA.

And our first funding came in in 2009.

So that's 50 years of history in about one minute.

So what is the project?

Well, it's really, I mean, it's a road, right?

It's a road with a Class 1 bike path.

So we are gonna build a four lane facility

around the Southeast County.

We're fully integrated into the

South Sacramento Habitat Conservation Plan.

So that is the environmental permit for us

that we have achieved.

It's a 50 year permit.

We got it in 2019 through the US Fisher and Wildlife Service

and the United States Army Corps of Engineers.

It's a major component of the South Sacramento

Conservation Agency.

So we are an implementing agency along with that.

And the project, I say total project costs

probably about $500 million,

but those numbers are always gonna change

as time goes on.

So the project's been well underway.

We've completed approximately 11 miles of the project

and we're underway right now with nine more miles

of final engineering and design.

So when a project moves through phases, right?

We have the planning phase where you get everything

brought onto a general plan.

You have an environmental approval phase

where we do an EIR, right?

And get permits.

And then we have the final engineering phase

where we identify the need for the poor,

the engineering of the project and the need for right of flight

with the real estate that needs to be acquired.

And that's kind of the phase we're on now

for nine miles of work.

And we're in the final engineering phase for nine miles.

So this is a map of the project scope.

And all of this is on the way.

So the project is really three main corridors.

So down on the South in the city of Elk Grove,

we have Camar Road, right?

This is an old kind of farm road

that will go from six miles between five and 99.

And right now where the Sky River Casino is,

that's that Grant Line 99 interchange

that has been brand new.

That's where it converts to Grant Line Road.

And then we go all the way of Grant Line Road.

It's like the backbone of the project is Grant Line Road.

All the way up to right here, White Rock Road, right?

So we're gonna come all the way around the South portion

of Rancho Cordova and connect right here at White Rock Road.

And then at White Rock Road, you parallel Highway 50

along the South side of Folsom

and go into El Dorado County.

And so the project terminates

at the Silver Valley Parkway interchange on Highway 50.

So five, 99, 16, 50.

Along the corridor, we have a dedicated Class 1 path.

All right, so that's a 34 mile long Class 1 path.

And lots of great things about that press.

But it's underway and we're already building it

in some places where we have the project.

Sears some examples of the projects

that we have built already.

Like I said, we've done about 11 miles.

It's approximately $200 million of work

that we've completed.

On the top, we have a camera road reconstruction.

This is where we took the two lane farm road out there

and completely reconstructed it to modern standards

with some drainage and water quality.

On grant line, we cross the Union Pacific Railroad here.

And that's a bridge that kind of goes up

and over those railroad tracks.

And then this is the interchange at Highway 50

called the Silver Valley Parkway interchange.

I'm gonna connection to Highway 50.

So on the map in orange,

I'm showing projects that are complete

and they're open now.

You can go and drive on them.

Blue, you have projects that are underway.

That's what we're working on right now.

And then we have green,

which are projects that are in the future.

They're just not in our work plan right now.

They're not in our budget, but it's part of our program.

I'll go a little bit into detail

of the projects that we're doing right now.

So right now we have three projects

that are being identified as a priority.

We have an extension of camera road for three miles.

And so this will connect Interstate 5

to Bruceville Road, if you're familiar with El Grove.

This is a portion of El Grove

that there is no road there today.

So we call this Greenfield Development.

It's the only part of our project that doesn't exist.

So it's the brand new three miles

that we'll be building along the extension of camera.

And that'll be a two lane project

that we're phasing right now.

Up in Rancho Cordova,

we have the Grant Line Road Safety

and Freight Mobility Project.

And so this is right out in this direction.

If you take White Rock to Grant Line,

that whole stretch along towards Kiefer-Lamphill,

it's a really, really bad shape road.

I mean, it's probably 56 years old, no shoulders.

A lot of unfortunately fatal accidents there.

And so we are going to be reconstructing that

as two lane facilities.

So it's just a two lane reconstruction

with Class 1 bike path,

but it's gonna be huge safety improvement

because this portion of the road

has a lot of sharp curves.

Like I mentioned, it's probably been there

for 50 or 60 years, has no shoulders,

the pavement's failing,

a lot of collisions and accidents out there.

And then we have the White Rock Road Expressway, Phase 2.

And so this is south of Highway 50 along the border,

the southern border of Folsom.

So Folsom is growing south of Highway 50.

They call it the Folsom Plain Area.

You're seeing all those brand new homes out there.

And so White Rock Road is immediately adjacent

to that development that's occurring out there.

And so we're gonna take that project

and we're gonna extend it up the hill.

So that's about nine miles.

And it works out really well for me

because it's three miles in Folsom,

three miles in Rancho Codoba and three miles in El Grove.

And amazingly enough,

that's also in three different congressional districts.

So I have Representative Kiley, Representative Vera,

and then Representative Matsui.

And then I'm also in three supervisory districts.

These are county districts, three, four and five.

So it's like, oh, okay.

It kind of works its way out for speaking on the priorities

within their individual areas.

So a couple of highlights of the work that we've been up to

in the past couple of years,

we have done, I think, a great job

securing state and federal funds.

We were a recipient of a federal grant

under the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law.

That was for $25 million for Grantline Road.

We're doing engineering across nine miles of work.

We're doing right-of-way acquisition.

And this is probably for a transportation project,

the real risk and schedule

and funding uncertainty is acquiring the real estate.

We have to go and work with a lot of different property owners

to acquire the real estate for a project like this.

One of the things I like to say is that a 34-mile long project

is actually 68 miles of fundage.

So that's a lot of property owners across 68 miles.

We've been doing a ton of advocacy

at the federal and state level.

So the state of California has a really robust

transportation funding program

passed a few years ago called Senate Bill 1.

And we have been a recipient of multiple awards

through the Senate Bill 1.

It's called the Road Repair and Accountability Act.

We've done some media, some tours,

a lot of public outreach,

complete overhaul of our budget.

And then of course,

we've been doing a lot of collaboration with Saacog.

And so again, Saacog is the Sacramento Area Council

of Governments, and this is what we call

a metropolitan planning organization.

And it's a federal designate of transportation funds

for six counties.

So it's Yuba, Yolo, Sutter, Plaster,

El Dorado and Sacramento.

So that's a big six county region.

And so we've been coordinated with them.

And locally, we were the number one priority project

for federal funds last year,

working with them on the safety.

Really, it's because of the safety.

It really is a huge safety out there.

So we've made a lot of progress.

And if you would like to read more

about the status of our project

and really get into the details,

last year in September,

we wrote a comprehensive project status report.

And we presented it to the Independent Taxpayer Oversight

Committee.

So a lot of acronyms in this presentation, right?

But so we get a lot of funding through

in Sacramento County, every time you buy something,

you get to pay a half a cent to transportation, right?

Everywhere in Sacramento County.

And that was based on a ordinance passed in 2004

called Measure A.

And so it's a half cent sales tax for transportation.

As part of that, there is an Independent Taxpayer Oversight

Committee.

And so we did a really big comprehensive update

to that committee.

And please go on our website and check it out.

And then I wanna just talk a little bit about

a project like this, I kind of mentioned it.

We go through three congressional districts,

three supervisor districts.

We go through three cities, two counties, et cetera.

So a big part of that requires public engagement

and advocacy to really get the support of the project.

Because there's so many different funding programs

that we have to go and search for.

And so we've been working on bipartisan,

bicameral support, meaning not only the Senate,

but the Assembly, Republican, Democrat,

state, federal, right?

We're doing all of those things.

And so it's just a small list of some of our notable

supporters, Senator Alex Padilla,

our congressional representatives,

Congressman Barra, Congresswoman Matsui,

Congressman Kiley, state senators,

Ashby Tora and Alvarado Gill, Senator Nealil.

Just a few of the folks that really represent

Southeast County.

And it's a really great coalition that we've been built

into support the project.

And as a result of this, we would have been successful

in not only obtaining federal funds

through the infrastructure law,

but also state funds through the

Road Repair and Accountability Act.

So I will stop there and I will let you guys

ask all the questions.

Yes, sir.

Thank you for coming and just a new presentation.

He calls this as Expressway.

What is the definition of Expressway versus Assembly?

Sure, that's a great question.

So in Expressway, it's a high speed facility, right?

And so when you design a high speed facility,

a lot of safety considerations come into mind, right?

And so for example, you're not gonna have sidewalk,

curb and gutter on Expressway, right?

You need to have what's called a clear recovery zone.

If you think about Highway 65 up in the Roswell area

or Highway 70, right?

You've got high speed facilities.

You also have spacing of the signals, right?

So in a city or an urban area, like right here,

you can have traffic signals every quarter mile, right?

Or every half mile, but generally every quarter mile

on Expressway, those signals are every mile, right?

It's also access controlled.

Now what I mean by that is that you don't get to put

a driveway on Expressway, right?

So if you're going to get on the Expressway,

you have to come to a traffic signal

and get on the Expressway, right?

We're not gonna allow someone to have a home

with a driveway where a 65 mile an hour loads are going.

So in general, this is a high speed facility.

And through the engineering of a high speed facility,

we take into account a lot of different safety considerations.

One of the things on the bike path, for example,

is that it's 30 feet away from the travel way, right?

So we don't want people riding their bike on a shoulder.

People don't want 65 miles an hour.

We're gonna do a dedicated class one facility

to take people out.

So just by the definition of the Expressway,

you're gonna limit intersections and access.

And that will turn reduce demand for increased housing

along the roadway, or do you see that you're

entering a relationship there with the type of road?

Well, I mean, an interesting question.

I think that when the county does its general plan,

when the cities do their general plan,

the housing has to have it has its back to the Expressway.

If it's going to be housing,

a lot of times they wanna see commercial development, right?

But as long as the county land use decisions

or city land use decisions are respecting the general plan,

then they know that that's where the connection points are.

Right?

Thanks.

Yeah.

You mentioned for a couple of different segments

that are two lanes.

Yeah.

Is that the whole thing,

the whole segment is going to be two lanes

or are there parts of it that are four lanes?

So yeah, so right now we're focusing a lot

on a two lane reconstruction.

And big part of that is, A,

the urgent need for just a safety improvement out there.

B, don't wanna overbuild, right?

Cause then you take on a little bit

of a maintenance burden when you don't need to.

But it's really about phasing the project.

And so, if you're, you know,

I can send you out on a drive up to, you know,

Marysville, right?

But highway 65 in a lot of areas,

it's two lanes with the plan for four, right?

And so, for the most part,

we have a project that,

we have an existing road that is two lanes.

Now it's not,

they may have a reduced shoulder or dilapidated payment,

but we're gonna reconstruct it

and in place with those two lanes,

knowing that the future four lanes will come in the future.

So there's an element of just being judicious

with our funding and also trying to attract these grants

in a way that, you know,

that they wanna give us the money, right?

I mean, so the need is a big part of that,

but also we're just trying to be a little judicious

and say, look, we're planning for a four lane facility,

but right now we're just going to.

So it's funding your biggest limitation right now?

Absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely.

When would you anticipate or based on your current schedule,

which I know those change, I work at the sector,

it's the story already.

Like what are you looking at?

You've got 20 miles basically that are either done

or in progress, none of the other 14, another decade.

Yeah, I mean, for sure.

For sure.

Yeah, I mean, if things can change any time,

we could get some major federal earmark, right?

So that certainly would be fantastic,

but based on like the current priorities,

which is to finish the nine miles that we have,

it would be a minimum of five years

before I start on those next 14.

So you mentioned that the project cost us 500 million,

but probably much more.

Just based on what you currently have,

I think you mentioned, I don't know if I was right,

and that you spent 200 million for 11 miles,

and then there's 265 additional for the nine

that are planned by 2030.

So do you have a better estimate

of what it might be to construct those last 14?

I'm not looking at those last 14 miles yet.

It's just too early.

Okay, so the 500 million's for like phase one and two.

Yeah, I mean, so based on the work

that we have done already,

some of those miles get really expensive

when they're talking about interchanges, right?

So for example, we build a $70 million interchange,

you're not getting miles with that.

You're just getting like this node, right?

So we build two interchanges

and a railroad grade separation,

and those are like really expensive projects

that didn't do a ton of miles.

In 2020, we were able to put out bids

that we got incredible bids, like the best bids.

So if you look at those numbers say 10 million a mile,

I mean, that was fantastic.

I think that we're gonna see much bigger numbers

when we put these next segments out to bid.

I think the markets changed dramatically.

And then you mentioned for the projects

that are currently under development,

the Grantline freight mobility.

So what sort is it?

Is that where you're doing some of those grade separations?

So are you thinking about like rail freight

or is it freight that's on the facility itself?

And is that like a big thoroughfare for heavy trucks

or what's like the activity?

Sure, so Grantline Road right out here

from White Rock to Jackson,

it's about seven and a half months total.

And in that area, you have rural freight,

meaning ranch, ranch and ag products,

but you also have the landfill.

You also have aggregate and the connections

to Mather Airfield.

But probably the largest source of freight on Grantline

is aggregate, right?

So there are multiple mining facilities that are out there

and aggregate trucks are some of the heaviest

and the way that they actually bounce on a road,

there's actually some of the most damaging.

It's looking at you, you can kind of notice

that there's a way that a car can actually move down a road

and large aggregate trucks

are actually some of the biggest, heaviest trucks.

So Tigard has a plant out there.

There's also a recycling plant and you have the landfill.

Which you guys know all about.

I'm thinking about that.

Was that part of the TSEP funding for that phase?

Yeah, yeah, so TSEP is the trade corridor enhancement

program and this was one of the three programs

that Senate Bill 1 created.

And for us, it's like a perfect kind of program, right?

Cause it's like, oh, trucks freight, rule freight,

stuff like that, right?

And so we've been in that cycle

and we anticipate to continue to be in that funding cycle.

And is that segment sufficient for the movement?

Like are they doing like short,

they're not doing through trips,

they're just doing like from the plant to somewhere else

or is the whole expressway necessary

or through to the five or?

I would love to get more miles, right?

But so what that project is doing is connecting

to an additional, to an existing facility

that's already been built.

So we built a facility in 2014 and then 2020.

And so we've already got, I wanna say,

six miles already built up to Highway 50.

And so what a lot you're seeing on Grantline

is like a trip up Grantline to YROC

and then YROC to Prairie City.

And then then you know, on Highway 50 to Prairie City

or East Middwell Street, one of the two.

Yeah, pretty questions.

Bike trail questions.

That's me.

Yeah.

I sent them ahead of time.

I didn't memorize them.

Fire away.

No, no, no.

Cause Jill asked for them ahead of time.

So I don't know how that normally works, but okay,

I'll do my.

I'm just serious.

Fire away.

It was a few weeks ago.

Can you talk a little bit about the amenities

for the bike path, like restrooms and water?

So unfortunately, we do not have any restrooms or water

planned around along the bike path.

That's a wonderful suggestion.

So the way that I think about this project is that

we build it and then the cities operate and maintain it.

So I was kind of talking about the JPA, right?

Like I don't exist to maintain the project after it's built.

And so what we found is that each jurisdiction

has different preferences on what exactly

they would like to see.

And now there will be some consistency, of course.

This is actually part of what's called

the Sacramento Regional Trail Network.

So there is some consistency for that reason,

but some of the monumentation and signage

is very unique to each city.

But so far, none of the cities have put in water or restrooms.

Okay.

So will the bike path be on both sides

or how will someone cross?

So the bike path is only gonna be on one side

and it's going to be on what I call the quote developed side,

right, if you think about it.

So if you look at how our project is aligned,

really the cities are kind of on the inside of the project,

right?

And so we don't anticipate a ton of crossings

because there's really nothing out there.

And should something ever come out there,

then they would develop some sort of cross.

But for the most part,

it's a single corridor on the west slash north

side of the road.

Okay.

Yeah.

Great question.

Yes.

There's a couple more.

Sorry.

Will there be a crosswalk then at each light?

Yes.

Okay.

And I think my last one is,

how does this overlay with the light rail?

There's no light rails, no we're near.

No we're near.

Okay.

I was trying to figure out the,

with my cyclist trying to connect to the light rail.

Okay.

Thank you.

Last one, Ali.

On the bike trail.

So with this being built out in segments,

is it currently connected to,

is there a bike rail through this?

Cause I noticed we've kind of got this big missing chunk

in the middle.

So how is the bike lane currently connected?

So in some locations it's connected, right?

If you're down in Elgro,

we have solid, I'd say from 99 all the way to Bradshaw,

there is a connected class one path.

And Bradshaw's got class two feeds down into it.

Folsom is doing a wonderful job

building out their bike trail network

and they have a ton of connections, right?

There is a gap and there is a gap right here

on Wiperock, which is,

the county did that project probably 10 years ago

and they didn't put in a class one trail.

It goes right by the state park.

And so you have the state park on one side,

and you have Aerojet on the other.

And we have just identified this as an upcoming priority,

a gap closure, because we're going to be building

the bike trail along Grantline down Rancho.

And so you got a bike trail in Rancho,

and then you got a bike trail in Folsom,

and we're going to have a gap.

So it is going to be your priority to close that gap.

And how does the bike trail navigate these,

like the rail overpass at Grantline Road

or this Silva Valley Parkway interchange?

So you can go back to that.

So on Grantline, there's protected barrier.

So when you go up and over,

there's actually a concrete barrier.

Okay.

So it's really well done there.

I think it's Silva Valley.

I don't think it's protected,

but you would have a standard class two connection

through there.

On the over crossing.

Okay.

Yeah.

But it's not separated from the vehicles?

No, not.

No, this is at the interchange at Silva Valley.

Okay.

Yeah, so nobody's going 65 through the interchange.

So it's more of a, you know,

when you get to an interchange,

it's more of a urban feel, right?

Because you're connecting to the highway.

So what is the speed limit at this segment?

Uh, maybe 45.

When you get to an interchange, it's probably 45.

Okay.

Yeah.

But as it stands now, everywhere where you've completed

a segment or have it under construction,

there's a bike lane there.

It's just not necessarily all connected yet.

Correct.

Yeah.

We everywhere that we are designing

and building a project,

we're putting in a class one separated trail.

There is a gap for between Rancho and Folsom.

And that gap exists because that project was built

kind of really early on.

And it just wasn't part of the design at that time.

And there was no adjacent residential.

And there's still, there's still isn't.

All right.

So it would have been a bike sheltered nowhere at the time.

But now that we are building out the bike trail,

it will become a priority to close that gap.

Yeah.

If I had a map, I could,

I'm not specifically sure I could show you,

but there's a state park and then there's aero jet.

There's no homes anywhere.

Turning topics a little bit.

Yeah.

Can you talk to the BMT reduction benefits?

Yeah.

So, so a couple of things there.

So first, when we started doing this project,

we were all about like level of service, right?

That was kind of like the mantra back in the early 2000s.

So we switched over to VMT and we did an analysis

that showed congested VMT, CVMT was a major reduction.

We were then asked to look at total VMT, which we did.

And so our project has a total VMT negative like 0.2%.

Call it negligible, right?

Very even.

And so overall, what our project does is it sucks traffic

away from highways like 99.550 and it moves it to our route,

which is shorter.

So you have a net negative VMT when you're in a city,

and then the entire project is built.

And that's where we get some challenges

is that we're having to face it

and we're not doing all four lanes.

We're just doing two, we're only doing this segment,

we're not doing this, right?

And so when you look at the project as a whole,

and you say, okay, let's build out all four lanes,

let's do the whole thing,

then you have this net negative VMT.

Okay.

Yeah.

With the, you said you've been targeting some of these areas

due to safety needs, like urgent safety needs.

So what are some of the differences

between the existing road

and the newly constructed segments

that increase the safety for?

Yeah, absolutely great question.

So if you look at portions of our road today,

no exaggeration, they're probably 50 to 60 years old, right?

I mean, and they're not being used

in the way that they were originally designed.

And so anytime that you have a use

that doesn't align with a design, you have a safety problem.

So for example, a little thing

like the horizontal curvature of a road, right?

Really sharp curves, right?

You can't go fast on those sharp curves, right?

And so what we will do is we will reconstruct that

with a nice gradual curve

that will accommodate a higher speed.

Another example would be a shoulder on a road, right?

Like that's, you know, minimum four feet or two feet, you know,

but in some places we have zero shoulder.

So as soon as your tire hits the edge of the road,

you lose control, right?

And that's happens.

I mean, and over correction,

now you got to head on collision, right?

So it's not good.

And so what you do when you reconstruct this road,

you put it in standard eight foot shoulder, right?

And that's gonna help with drainage

because you don't want water on a road.

A lot of times this road floods.

So in the wintertime, if the road is completely flooded,

the county will close it,

but if the county isn't closing it,

you're still gonna have a lot of puddles

and like substantial water on a road.

Cars hydroplane, right?

Very dangerous when the roads are wet.

So by reconstructing a road to have proper drainage,

proper clear recovery, standard shoulders,

I mean, you are doing major improvements to save them.

I have an idea what the project looks like,

but the intersections,

are they interchanges like this silver valley thing?

Are they just stop lights?

They're gonna stop lights.

Stop lights.

Yeah, interchanges at the highways.

And then what section connects with the South County

habitat conservation plan?

Right.

A certain area that is more right adjacent to that area.

Okay, so the South Sacramento habitat conservation plan

is like 34,000 acres.

It includes everything in like the city of Rancho Cordova

and the South County.

So the entire project is within, right?

We are within it, right?

And so as part of that,

as part of that mapping with the HCP say,

these are the impacts that are being planned

in the next 50 years.

And then these are the areas that will be conserved

over the next 50 years.

Does that make sense?

So are you in areas to be conserved?

Are you limiting intersections or access in those areas?

Yeah, so.

So the road is to stimulate destruction of the habitat

or sprawl, yeah.

Yeah, so everything in the habitat conservation plan

is integrated with the county's general plan.

So the land use general plan

and the circulation element of the general plan

is the project, right?

So there won't be any question about where access is

because it's all shown on that map, right?

And so it's all part of that circulation element.

One of the things that we do

is that we fund permanent open space mitigation.

And the way that we do that is we take the money

from the sales taxes that come to our agency

and then we buy conservation.

And we put an easement on it for perpetuity, right?

And we say, okay, this 160 acres

puts a conservation easement on it

and then we transfer it into the South Sacramento

Conservation Agency.

And they have an endowment in which is funded

and pays for the perpetual maintenance of that property.

So in some locations, we do this

where the US Fish and Wildlife Service wants it.

Like there's an example out by Rancho Seco

where we bought, I wanna say 200 acres or 500 acres out there.

And then we also do it immediately adjacent to our project.

So at the corner of Jackson Road and Grant Line Road,

we purchased 160 acres.

And that's now mitigation land.

It's used for grazing, right?

So cat, and it's always like a local farmer.

So these are small properties, small ranches.

Maybe they'll bring in 10 heads of cattle, right?

Graze it, then it goes to like a local livestock

and low dye or gold.

So it's kind of like, I don't know, small scale grazing.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

I have one more question around the back of my hands.

So like on this Cammer Road section, where's the bike lane?

I'm not sure that, Cammer is probably the,

is a class two along this, if you can see it on there.

So we're on the, which of these segments

actually have this separated class one?

I thought the whole thing had a separated class one.

So it's planned that way.

It's absolutely planned that way.

So here, this one, go back.

So this is a class one here on this facility.

Do I have a picture of white rock?

I don't know if I have a picture of white rock.

But if you look at this blue area here,

this is a class one facility here, already built.

In Folsom, Elk Grove, this class one facility

goes all the way to Bradshaw.

Okay.

This is an interchange.

So this is just going to be class two through the interchange.

And this was just a rural reconstruction.

So it has a class two with a class one that's planned

and the development comes in.

Okay. But eventually you'll have a class one

and then you can pair it back.

Yes.

Yep.

Yeah.

And this is all planned is what Sacramento County has

they call it like the Sacramento Regional Trails Network.

I think it's something like something similar to that.

And so this is like the backbone of the class

of the county's bike and trail network.

And so for example, along sunrise,

there's the Folsom South Canal class one path.

So we'll be connecting into that.

And when that gets built and then Folsom,

and that might be the only class one connection.

I think maybe Bruceville's having class one

come down through Elk Grove.

So as the development comes in,

a lot of these class ones in the developments

get built as they approach, right?

As the homes come in.

So in this particular area, there wasn't anything here.

But as the homes come in,

then it starts to create the need for that class one path.

So are the home, are the developers

for these housing developments building class one?

No, no, no, the JPA.

No, we are, we are.

Yeah, yeah.

But I'm saying the connections to get done by the developments.

I'm kind of standing in front of the camera.

I hope that worked out okay.

You're good.

All right.

That's your voice.

Any other questions?

Looks like another one else.

Yeah, thank you so much.

Yeah, thank you.

I'm in for a question.

So connectorjpa.com.

Please feel free to reach out, check out our website.

Lots of good stuff on there, all the reports.

Now everything's there.

Thank you.

The next item on our agenda is

the second of county sustainability update

by John Lundgren, student village manager.

John Lundgren.

Good evening, everybody.

You hear me okay?

Yes.

All right.

Welcome to the new members.

Good to see you.

I'm John Lundgren, the county sustainability manager.

I loved your introduction about,

I forget your words, you know,

marginally successful sustainability,

but that's the honest truth

and I'm on the journey with you.

So I felt something when you said that.

What's going on?

I think tomorrow's Earth Day, right, everybody?

The official Earth Day.

And so that means that Sunday, April 27th

at Southside Park, once again,

is the environmental council

of Sacramento's big Earth Day celebration.

And of course, you've heard me say this before,

the county will be there with bells on.

I think we'll have seven or eight departments there.

We'll be running a new story tomorrow

to highlight the departments that'll be there

and just invite the community to come out

to that family friendly event and hear what we're doing.

You probably notice I'm a little bit grayer here.

I worked really hard on a good giveaway this year

to put at my table, cause I really don't,

I've never done giveaways

cause everything's always some plasticky something

out of China.

So this year I mentioned last time bookmarks

with a seated paper flower or leaves on them.

And the bookmarks will take you to our QR code

to the sustainability dashboard.

They arrived today, a thousand of them with a huge typo.

The typo came from the factory.

Our proof copy was golden and perfect.

So someone at the factory didn't do it right.

They assure me they can get ones printed

and sent to me by Friday.

So regardless, we'll have some bookmarks.

I'm hoping to have the good ones there.

And the other ones aren't going to go to waste.

I'll pull the leaves off and give them away extra

and probably run the bookmarks through my paper shredder

and feed them to my worms.

So come out and join us for that.

It's a really good event

and kind of highlights what the county's doing.

And that brings us to the sustainability dashboard,

which you've heard me say last time

we were trying to update it in time for Earth Day.

They say we're still on track for that.

I'll be, if we get it done,

I'll be probably spending Friday proof reading

all of our summary paragraphs.

But across all 41 pages of updates,

I have written summary paragraphs to update

what the county's done in the last six months

on all of those climate action plan actions

that are in the climate action plan

and the adaptation measures.

And so there's not a tremendous amount of new stuff in there.

Obviously the budget is tight this year,

but we are making sequential progress

on a number of initiatives.

More and more street lights have been replaced with LEDs,

for example, and we continue to just keep pushing where we can.

The county is keeping a really close look

at Assembly Bill 306

coming to us by our friends in Southern California.

It's part of a wildfire package

to provide, quote, relief for Southern California.

But what it would do folks is prohibit reach codes

for the next six years.

And so reach codes are those codes

that would reach beyond the state's standard building codes

that are on a triennial code cycle.

And that was our number one way

of reducing our greenhouse gases outside of carbon farming.

And that was my top priority for focus

for the county this year.

But if that law passes, we would be precluded

from adopting any new reach codes for six years.

It sailed through, I might get it wrong.

I think it sailed through the Assembly

and it's going to the Senate next or vice versa.

And so we are waiting to see what California Association

of Counties does on it,

because of course you got to think about how it looks

if you're opposing something that's

to help get housing built.

And so interestingly,

American Planning Association,

California chapter is for it,

I think because of the pro housing aspect

and the building officials are against it.

So very mixed opinion,

but I just, I'm alerting folks to that

because that's really gonna be a factor

in how the county chooses to execute

its climate action strategy moving forward.

Because if reach codes are off the table for six years,

we'll have to really, really, really lean into

other methods, incentives,

and really lean into the carbon farming

and try to get some of our greenhouse gas reductions that way.

And so we'll be tracking that.

We've got our professional lobbyists on it

and doing everything we can,

but it's an example like we've talked before

of competing priorities.

I wish it wasn't that housing and sustainability

were competing, they don't necessarily have to be,

but Southern California interests

saw a chance to strike on that and tie it to the fires

and everyone has a soft spot

for people that have been through a disaster.

So it's a shame because when they're rebuilding

all those homes, the best time to make a home electric ready

is when it's being built from the ground up.

It doesn't cost hardly anything

to run that extra conduit for electrical.

No one is saying they'd have to rebuild all electric.

We're just saying when you rebuild, put in the electricity.

So if you wanna put a car charger in, you can.

When you wanna go all electric in your kitchen, you can.

But we'll just see where the chips fall on that one.

And we'll stay engaged.

All of my different networks are chatting about this,

but I just wanna be honest with you, the jury's out.

It's very, because of the pro housing designation,

the county and the city of Sacramento have,

we also don't wanna put that in jeopardy

because that pro housing designation

is gonna help us solve our unhoused population problem

as well.

So that's a little bit of news from the sustainability world.

The other news, those of you that are tuned in

have probably seen that the county has announced

an opening for sustainability manager.

And obviously there's only one of those in the county,

that's me.

Some of you have heard that I'm retiring.

So my date is the end of June.

And that is why the county has announced an open position

to conduct a civil service exam

to try to recruit my replacement.

And so Tara will send that out to the commissioners tomorrow

so that you have a link to that

and feel free to share that job recruitment

with anybody in your networks or yourself

if you're so qualified and so inclined.

And we wanna alert that there's an early cutoff.

It's a continuous filing, but the first cutoff will happen

as soon as May 8th, because of course,

we wanna make sure we get someone on as soon as possible

to maintain continuity of the office.

And even though budgets are very tight,

we don't expect to see a lot of growth

in the county budget this year.

And there's probably gonna be reductions.

I'm not saying layoffs at all,

but I'm saying reductions

where people are expected to do more with less.

I have been assured by executive leadership

that they intend to keep the sustainability manager

position going.

And so that's good news for all of us.

And maybe a little reward for keeping the office

small and nimble.

So with that, I'll be here for a number of more months.

You'll see me for May, you'll see me for the June meeting.

And hopefully maybe at the June meeting

we'll have word on a new candidate

that can start shadowing me.

And so I do have a succession plan.

I wanna assure you that I keep a very organized one drive.

We're all in the cloud at the county.

And I will have that drive ready to drop into my successors

cloud account, so to speak, as soon as they start.

So nothing will be lost, no communications will be lost.

And so that's my update for tonight.

If there's questions, I'm happy to answer them.

Thanks, Shawn.

Congratulations on your retirement as well.

Thank you.

Are you assisting in the hiring process for your replacement?

I don't think so.

There's probably gonna be two rounds of interviews.

If I was, they might have me on the first round

of interviews, but I don't believe that'll be the case.

I don't think that's the, my boss,

the deputy county executive, he hasn't mentioned that.

I have suggested who would be appropriate

for the panel interviews.

But I think there's some separation there.

I don't know if it's by strategy or not,

but I don't think I'll be directly involved.

Okay.

Do any commissioners go ahead, Megan?

Is the dashboard public?

Can I see it?

Oh, absolutely.

So the bookmarks have the QR code for it.

Very easy to Google it.

Just Sacramento County Sustainability Dashboard.

You should get a hit on it.

It's there, it's updated.

The caveat is it represents,

it's based off of the previous draft

of the climate action plan, which is completely valid.

But when we got the climate action approved,

action plan approved at the end of last year,

it was just laid out in a little different way.

And so the dashboard that I'm hoping to have published

later this week will track exactly how the cap is laid out,

action by action by action.

So right now there's a robust explanation

about what we're doing with carbon farming,

as there'll be a robust explanation with the new version

of what we're doing in carbon farming.

It's just the new version will track action by action

exactly the same.

So even if we don't have it updated,

which they assure me we will, but even if we don't,

the dashboard is up, it's been active.

I think we've done two, if not three update cycles so far.

I try to update it every six months.

And what that means is for those areas

that I don't have direct control over,

I go to those departments and say,

hey, knock, knock, sorry to be a pass,

but it's time to update again.

Some departments are more than happy to say,

oh, here's the great stuff we're doing.

But oftentimes I'm competing for time with those departments

to have them be able to make some time carve out

for paying attention to this,

because there are so many other priorities

they're being asked to work on.

And so it's one of the more,

I'll say stressful parts of my job,

but that's what I'm hired for,

is to make sure we keep kind of pushing

and make sure that everyone knows that,

maintaining our competency

and how we address sustainability is just as important

as if we go to continuing education

for our civil engineers, for example,

that work on things like roadways and JPAs.

So yes, that long way into the answer,

but the dashboard is there

and that is our primary way

that we are showing the public what we're doing.

Until it'll always be there,

but now that the cap is approved,

we've also committed to annual reports

to the Board of Supervisors.

So the dashboard will always be there

and it'll be a major component

of the annual reporting process

to the Board of Supervisors,

where we now have committed every year,

we'll go to the Board.

We haven't determined when

and how that reporting process will happen

because the timing, we're still having discussions

because there's mandatory reporting required

for the general plan, for example,

and there's different timings of how things will lay out.

For example, you also know I'm working on the year 2024

greenhouse gas inventory for the county.

And I've been advising the planning department

that maybe we wanna do the annual update later in the year

so I can have the inventory done.

It's not gonna turn out that way, you guys.

I believe the inventories are always gonna be a year

in arrears because as I reached out to our utilities

to gather the electrical data for year 2024,

figuring now it should all be in,

PG&E tells me that data will not be available

till quarter three.

And so that's for now and always moving forward.

PG&E has a very standardized system.

When you request the data,

they get it to you almost the next day,

but they don't have that ready till quarter three.

Smud by the other token, they can get it for you

when you request it, but it takes them two to three months.

So that's indicating that the dash

or that the greenhouse gas inventory

is probably always gonna be a year in arrears

to the annual report on the CAP progress,

which opens up the whole year again

for when we might take the annual report to the board.

Instead of initial discussions were,

let's wait till the end of the year

so we can have an updated greenhouse gas inventory.

So I know that was, again, a lot of words,

but I just wanna be transparent

and share what's going on behind the scenes

because I know the community,

many of you in the stakeholders,

we saw the CAP get approved.

And the big deal there was this commitment to annual reports.

And so I just wanted to let you know

we haven't forgot about it

and the types of discussions we're having

to talk about the timing

and how to make those reports most effective.

The other thing was, okay, do it earlier in the year

with the general plan annual report

or do you do it later in the year,

like right now as we're heading into budget times

and there's unknowns,

but at least you can fight for your sustainability priority.

Again, it's that balancing act.

I don't have any more insight than that

than to say, I'm talking about it,

the planning director community development

is talking about it.

And ultimately, it'll have to be a whole part

of the county's executive team decides

how we go about scheduling those

and will they be a part of the general plan update

for a standalone report?

I don't know yet,

but that's kind of what's on the table.

That'd be great if we could receive a copy

of the annual report as well.

Absolutely, absolutely.

And if you haven't heard me say it before,

you know, I anticipate I always envision

that the climate emergency mobilization task force

as well as the SAC Environmental Commission

are really the spots to take these reports

for information and to achieve more public comment

before you go to the board.

So it'd be my advice to the county.

And I know Todd Smith, the planning director agrees,

be a really good practice to use those two bodies

as one of the preliminary hearing venues

to achieve more public input before you go to the board,

much like we do with the planning commission,

for example, on big projects.

Planning commission is sometimes end of the line

for projects, cause they have approval authority,

but on big projects, you go to the planning commission first

to get a recommendation before you move to the board.

It just is another venue to make sure

that you're out in the public,

getting as much feedback as possible.

I have a question.

John, is the task force fully staffed or, you know,

is members here?

Yeah, good question.

We are 13 seats right now, we're 12 filled,

we're down one environmental justice position.

And then our youth membership is annual

because it's only, you know, it's high school.

And so we know come summer,

we'll be looking for another youth member.

And then this summer and forever more,

we will always have half of the membership turnover

because we're at two year terms that are staggered.

And so existing members are welcome to apply again,

there was no term limits.

And so we will always be in a recruitment phase,

for example, and that's part of my,

what I'm doing at Earth Day is gonna be making sure

that we're advertising that vacant

environmental justice position.

So I've changed the website again at greensackcounty.gov,

green.sackcounty.gov under the task force tab,

there's an open recruitment.

Someone can send an email whenever they want to say,

I'm interested in whatever position they want

and I'll hold it in my files,

even if the position's not open.

But currently the website does say

that the environmental justice position is open.

Any other questions for John?

Who's the lobbyist for the county?

We have state and federal.

Gosh, you put me on the spot.

Aubrey is the first name of our state person.

I wish I could remember her firm right now.

It's okay, I was just wondering.

Yeah, sorry, and I just can't remember the federal firm.

It's one of the big ones.

I can send that to Tara when I find it out.

And in fact, it might be on our publish, no, it's not.

But just as a point of information,

the county has a published legislative platform.

And the way that's supposed to work is

if something is in the legislative platform,

then our lobbyists can go execute

without having to talk to us every time.

They know what to fight for.

But let me follow up with you

and send that to the secretary tomorrow

so that everyone knows who they are.

Thanks John, and yeah, congrats on well-deserved retirement

and we're looking forward to see who can come on board

and continue to carry all the work that you've been doing.

Yeah, well, it takes a village,

as you know, you guys are part of it.

And so it's, you know, I'll be here for a few more months.

It's a big privilege to have grown up with the county.

This is the only real job I've had

other than a temporary job

with those called Department of Fish and Game

back in the day.

I was a Fish and Wildlife Scientific Aid back long ago.

But this is my only real job.

I'll be 29 and a half years on retirement day.

And then obviously with sick leave type credits,

I'll make my 30.

So it was an interesting journey to grow up here,

like I said.

And so I think back to being a youngster

and it's like, man, I'm not worthy.

But of course, all of you that work,

most of you are public sector,

but no disparagement to the private sector people either.

It's privileged to serve, right?

It comes with its burdens, but it's a privilege to serve.

And I don't forget who pays that salary.

It's all the people, you guys included

and everybody else.

Thank you, John.

Thank you.

All right, we have multiple things to approve

at this meeting.

So let's take a minute.

Let me just talk about it.

Can I just do that?

Oh, that's fine.

I just, I know you didn't do that.

So the first or the first item to approve

is the draft minutes from our January 2nd meeting.

So there are a motion.

Okay.

The second.

Next second.

Can you see full call?

Richard second?

I second it, yeah.

Stephanie Holstridge?

Yes.

Christine Casey?

Yes.

Dr. Anthony Dericci?

Yes.

Richard Han?

Yes.

Gage Marchini?

Yes.

Megan Rieger?

Yes.

Jacqueline Tlok?

Yes.

Thank you.

The next item for approval is the draft minutes

from the February 24, 2025 meeting.

Do we have a motion to approve?

So.

Second.

Thank you.

Stephanie Holstridge?

Yes.

Christine Casey?

Hi.

Dr. Anthony Dericci?

Yes.

Richard Han?

Yes.

Megan Rieger?

Yes.

And Jacqueline Tlok?

Yes.

Thank you.

And then the next item is the SEC outreach flyer

that the outreach commission work on.

So hopefully everyone had a chance to review

and look at that.

And I don't know if there's a motion to approve

or if anyone has any comments about it before.

I think the only comment we have is that

the first reason we're going to use this

is at the upcoming birthday activities,

maybe the EMDs table can be available

for distribution to the public who wants to see this.

If approved, the copies have already been made.

Ready to take them.

Yes, we will take them and hand them out at the,

they're in the copies.

It's not pretty.

I know.

I don't think that it's all good.

The only comment is, are we required to cite images?

You know, if we do any outreach materials at my firm,

we have to have locations for images.

Otherwise it's a copyright infringement.

We only use public domain intentionally.

Okay.

Or Jilt it, I will say.

Jilt it with us all together.

Just so we're clear who really did the work.

Yeah.

That's a good point.

And within the EMD, we have the same considerations

for our images somewhere.

I'm showing ours as well.

Is there a motion to approve the outreach fire?

I'll move it.

I'll second.

Thank you.

I need to see pro copies.

Stephanie will switch.

Yes.

Christine Casey.

Hi.

Dr. Anthony D'Reici.

Yes.

Richard Hunn.

Yes.

Gage Marchini.

Hi.

Sorry, Megan record.

Yes.

And Jack Wintella.

Yes.

Thank you.

Our next item on the agenda is the EMD director's report.

So good evening everyone.

Great presentation.

I thought that was very informative of all of those.

I love the questions too about bike lanes and bathrooms

and water stations and overpasses

and really good questions.

They'll take a lot of that, I'm sure back

as they're developing this project.

It would be nice to see it all done.

It was a little bit fun to hear

that that's a 10 year project.

It's kind of minimal,

but it's good that it's on its way.

So as far as EMD is concerned,

I brought a few flyers for you all to take a look at.

So this summer and moving in this spring and into the summer,

we're gonna be doing a lot of outreach

for the various programs.

So I'll do passing around.

But we've got a free cottage food operation workshop

that we're gonna be doing in May coming up.

And so cottage food is things like cookies,

prepackaged foods that are shelf stable

and they can be made in homes.

So they're able to get it from it and make these in homes

and then sell them with or to a distributor

or sell them directly.

So we have a workshop coming up for that.

Sidewalk vending ordinance,

we've been doing a series of workshops.

We started that in March.

We're carrying it all the way through May.

We're doing, I brought the English version,

but we also have a Spanish version as well.

So we'll be doing both English and Spanish workshops

through the rest of this month.

It's almost over this month and then into May.

So we're gonna be doing that.

We're also sending out invitations to community event

or community organizations, chambers, what not asking,

would you like us to come to your place

and do workshops and we'll do those in the evenings.

We'll do them during the day,

whatever works best for those areas.

So we're trying to travel and then also have workshops here.

And we have had quite a few people attend.

So we are seeing some success with that

and getting people to come.

You guys may not know that EMD inspects body art,

which is tattoo parlors.

So we will be doing a free body art workshop in,

let's see, today.

Today was one and then the next one will be in May.

So we're gonna be doing those workshops as well.

This is kind of new.

We're doing a residential pool workshop coming up

in June and the end of this month.

We normally do these for operators

that have commercial pools.

So hotels, HOAs, apartment buildings,

but we're actually doing these for residences as well.

So homeowners can come and get a free class with us

on how to maintain their pool.

I thought this was interesting.

We've got this flyer on food,

Best Buy date and Sell Buy dates.

There are no expiration dates.

So this is kind of the difference between

who's buy or sell buy.

And then also it's a good guide that even if food

may be past their Sell Buy date or they're used by date,

they're still good to get donated.

So we have a flyer on that.

Did that law change or something changed recently

with the law with Best Buy Sell Buy date?

You have to tell me.

I saw that as well.

I think they're getting rid of the Sell Buy dates

in California.

So just Best Buy date?

I don't think they did entirely of that.

I too, I'm gonna look into it.

I'm gonna look into it.

And we do have two that we looked at.

There are two true expiration dates

and that's baby food and baby formula.

And our inspectors do look at that

during their inspections.

We have a medical waste workshop that's coming up in April.

So this week and next week.

So medical waste for small quantity generator.

So under 200 pounds, we do permits for those.

We have permits for medical waste.

So we're doing a workshop on that

bringing those businesses in.

200 pounds per month?

Yes.

Okay.

And then we've got compact mobile food operations.

And so this is in tandem with the sidewalk vending.

So in order to sidewalk bend, if it's a food,

they couldn't get a permit as a mobile compact food operation.

So we're gonna be doing workshops.

Let's see, May is gonna be the first one.

And then depending on the community,

we'll be looking at where we need to go for that.

If we continue on here on site,

if we go to other areas for them,

we're really trying to get that word out

and meet people where they're at.

For that one in particular, do you have multiple languages?

Spanish is the way to go.

For the flyer.

Oh yeah, that one's in Spanish.

I just brought the English one here today.

Thank you.

Thank you for that.

So we're gonna be very busy.

This, and this is really just taking us through May.

So the planning committee is looking into the summer

into June and August.

And so there'll be additional trainings for free workshops.

And just would like to note that all of these

that I showed here are all free to the public.

So that we don't charge for any of those

we really wanted to work on.

Our main goal is education.

Making sure that the information is there

for those who need it

and would like to get permits with our office.

Thanks.

I just checked and it is the getting rid of the sell by date.

That's not total electronics.

Everything will be best by.

Best by.

Okay, so best by is the date, not sell by.

I have no idea.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Anyone have any questions?

Yes, I remind me with,

we do like a restaurant inspection.

When you do a restaurant inspection,

besides the temperatures and you know,

things that are directing food safety,

you also look at other regulations.

I think the thing about the requirement

for composting food waste and green bin and all that.

So we look at what's under our purview.

So for example, we wouldn't necessarily like that

would be DWMR that they need to have a green waste bin

and a food waste unit with all of the different bends.

So if we see a facility that doesn't have that,

we'll refer it to them

because we don't have authority to write violations

or cite them for it,

but we will make sure that those agencies that do,

that they come and they do the education piece.

I was wondering because at January 1st,

started forming a polystyrene clamshells

like for takeout stuff right now,

supposedly illegal, but they're still.

Probably be used.

Yeah, very commonly used.

And so would you,

is that something you could add to your educational piece

or take out food?

Yeah, so, and that would be something that we could look at

that we could provide say,

pliers and or other information to vendors

who work with those agencies.

And then that could be something that we could do

to say, hey, by the way, you may not be aware of this.

Here's a requirement and give them that information.

So we definitely could do that.

Oh, yeah, we'd have to change the whole protocol

and have an inspector.

Maybe you have to add to your training

for inspections and all that.

Yeah.

We wouldn't necessarily have it on our list

or our inspection list.

So that would be more of a conversation

that they would have the inspector

would have with that operator about,

say clamshells, for example.

I noticed in your barbershop clamshells,

just one was, you know, that that's no longer allowed

and have that education with them.

But we wouldn't necessarily cite them for it.

Right, just the education.

But the education, yes.

And so is that feasible

that that could become an education piece?

And our inspectors do a lot of that

where they meet that need.

And you know, on a variety of our programs,

when they see something that they know is a new law

that's passed, that's something that they'll give them

the heads up on.

Yeah, but we cannot let in.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

This item on the agenda is report back on SEC

and the Schumer monitoring of environmental issues.

Does anyone have any updates?

No.

I'm going to just clean up for her,

but it was sloppy.

Okay.

I don't know, I'm very hopeful.

All right, subcommittee updates.

So the first one is outreach subcommittee,

review list of agencies for outreach.

Do you want to make a note?

Yeah.

In your packet, you would have a list of

four commissions, county departments,

and city and segmental departments.

And then most recently,

Eugene added the city of Belgrade departments.

This list, and this was intended for us to

use as a basis for outreach to various departments

who are not really aware of who we are.

And this is something we encountered over the last year

is that people came and spoke to us

and they said we can approve it.

So we're trying to make it an effort to

reach out to the executive directors

for senior staff who may be of interest,

where we may have individual contacts

for these people who know them on a professional basis.

And so we want to identify this list

and then hopefully each of us can add names

and highlights what we want to make context

with these organizations.

Because we have a specific interest

or specific knowledge about their department.

And that's where the flyer came in,

is that at the minimum level of outreach

we expect to be sending these to the

various departments, say here we are,

come and talk to us, we invite you to join us.

But there may be other levels of communication

we want to engage with, maybe one-to-one meetings,

maybe some other event that we can use in creativity to

at least inform them who we are.

And so what I'm both hoping is that

everybody will look at this list and apply

departments and or people that you can,

that you want to take on yourself

to enhance this outreach effort.

Perhaps Jill could make an Excel spreadsheet.

She already has one.

Okay, she already has one.

I'm sure you could sign up.

Yeah.

Can we add more?

If you have, can identify more, yes.

I guess I would have expected to maybe see like

SMUD or PG&E or Karma.

These are departments that we have authority

as part of our sponsorship.

So our charter limits us to county and city departments.

So SMUD is outside.

Okay, so if any of them had county-based programs,

would that change the conversation or no?

Depends if it's particular to our scope of interest.

Okay.

If it's something dealing with food, food,

food safety is one of ours,

but something else that may or may not be of interest to us.

So if you have questions like that,

maybe you need a copy of our charter.

Probably.

That spells exactly what we're here for responsibility for.

Yep.

And then my follow-up question is,

are these mapped to what our biggest sources

of greenhouse gas emissions are

so that we can make sure we don't have gaps

based on what our footprint is?

You know what I mean?

Like transportation is probably one of our biggest culprits

and behind that may be something industrial.

So have we ensured that all of the agencies

that we're connecting with have an impact on the area

that we are generating greenhouse gas?

Greenhouse gas is one of the topic areas

that we're interested in.

So half of them know the topic areas.

So not necessarily we can prioritize by greenhouse gas,

but it's very good to prioritize

by our individual areas of interest

and every group we want to reach out to these people.

And I think too, just for some background,

we've been talking about this subcommittee

and this sort of effort for a while.

And our goal here was not to target a specific subject matter

because most of our subject matters are things

that a lot of entities and agencies deal with,

at least on some level.

And so our goal here was more,

how can we become better connected

with some of these other entities

to have a better relationship

so that they know we exist,

so that they know we're here as an advisory body

or a body that if they're trying to pursue some effort,

potentially they can come to for letters of support

or things like that.

So it was less at targeting a specific one

of our topic areas and more just,

how do we get our name out there

and make sure more people know who we are

and what we do.

Okay, thank you.

Oh, that's all we have to say about this.

I've been having trouble getting a spreadsheet going

or something that people can access

and fill in the names where they feel appropriate.

I think Jill may have done that

and I just couldn't look at it yet.

I don't think she set it up to the whole commission.

She's very waiting despite the conversation.

Yes.

So I can have us heard us in that larger group

and then people can Google Doc it.

And we're still missing Folsom, Galt and Eilton

and we don't have a representative on the commission

just to fill that in.

But we might be able to fill it in our own.

So thank you.

I'm excited to miss commissioner comments.

I just have a couple.

So one thing that I said,

we haven't had a meeting of our topics subcommittee,

but there was it.

I did send an email.

Maybe Jill would know.

We do have a speaker for the August meeting.

Because we didn't have one before.

Okay. Yeah, I'm not sure on that.

And then when we canceled,

the meeting that was canceled for like a quorum.

Yeah. And you contacted that.

The city transportation person.

So you could come in and I was like, I'm in her deck.

Okay.

I'll make a note to follow up on that.

Okay.

Yeah, I'll ask Jill if there's anyone for August.

August meeting, yeah.

Also we have, sorry,

I'm going to skip the awards subcommittee.

So we still need volunteers for that.

I don't think anyone has volunteered.

So we have a main hosting awards ceremony in October

at the board of supervisors building in downtown Sacramento.

So different groups like nonprofits or businesses

can apply or individuals and we give them awards.

So how many months away is that?

Six months.

So yeah, just put them at a time.

Does anyone want to volunteer to participate in that?

Awards committee?

What's a sigh?

Are you planning on the awards that get given

or the whole event?

So I didn't last year.

No, but the last year.

Most of the work is on the outreach side.

Emailing folks, kind of badgering politely.

Hey, we have awards.

We want to celebrate people in the environmental community.

The bulk of the work for the committee is,

so trying to coordinate that,

which is one reason why I,

first year I was really gung-ho about it

and then next year, not so much.

The other part is when the awards,

when the applications come in,

I think like end of August, September

is reviewing them with the committee.

We have a rubric.

The first year I was here,

we kind of adjusted the rubric,

had some discussions about what categories we want to fund

because is it fair to compare

like a student applicant versus another?

And then also depends kind of,

we're pretty flexible seeing what comes in.

Because if you only get awards for one thing,

then you can categorize it differently.

And then the presentation is at the county board

of supervisors downtown and we read a small blurb

and they take a picture, they get to say a few words.

They're very excited.

About two years ago,

some guy showed up from the hospital.

He was so excited about his award,

but he was in the hospital.

He's like, I have to come get my award.

We're like, whoa, your health is more important.

I think it's very honored to receive that.

So.

Who was on the commission last time?

I know I was on it.

Oh, I was on it.

I was on it, I think the last two years.

The last year I was on it.

I was going to rotate off and I was going to be on it.

I was also on it.

How many do you need?

I'll do what I'm doing.

I think three, three is my own time.

Four is, we can add more folks on too.

Also, I'm going to check on Eugene.

Eugene, oh, Eugene is going to want to do it.

Yeah, I'm sure.

Yeah.

You love to do it.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Jacqueline and perhaps Eugene.

And maybe Mark also.

Yeah, maybe Mark also.

I don't think Mark's going to want to do it.

Maybe.

I've been doing it for two years or so maybe.

And it's very rewarding.

Like it's time consuming to do that reach,

but it's nice to give the awards.

All right.

Commissioner comments.

First of all, I forgot to mention that we received a public comment

over in public comments.

So that's in our packet.

And then we received an email request.

If anyone on the commission wants to participate in a podcast style

conversation, it's this Friday for Earth Day.

The director of.

The director of.

The school project of Sac State emailed.

It's a youth program focused on civic engagement.

It would be either 10 to 11 a.m.

or 11 a.m. to 12 p.m.

Maximum one hour of time at the board room at the secretary of state.

Auditorium.

It's high school students and educators.

So it's topic.

Birthday.

Let's see.

Okay.

So.

They aim to educate and engage students and civics and state government

since an upcoming Earth Day podcast student led discussion on key

environmental issues impacting California.

And exploring important environmental issues through a youth policy lens.

This Friday.

This Friday.

Yes.

Does anyone interested in.

Yeah.

Okay.

Say hello.

No, no, no, we don't have their capacity for that.

Thank you.

Anyone else have any comments?

Okay.

I have a quick comment.

Yeah.

Just to go back to the, the awards.

I was thinking about it.

Berk, the.

Business.

Business environmental resource center.

Business environmental resource center.

Business environmental resource center.

Business environmental resource center.

Business environmental resource center.

They do sustainability,

sustainable business awards around the same time we do it.

And I'm wondering if there's.

Any type of.

Connection or correlation or.

Partnership.

That the SEC would want to look at.

Or be interested in with Burke.

As their similar.

Bains.

In terms of recognizing businesses.

They're more on the sustainable business.

Is that the county?

I went to that last year.

One of our clients won one of the awards.

Okay.

Is it.

So is it a county?

Is Burke a nonprofit?

Or are they affiliated?

They're a county agency.

They're under economic development.

What's the.

What's the outcome?

B.

ERC.

Business environmental resource center.

And so it seems to me like it's kind of someone who's.

You know,

I'm not sure if it's a good idea.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

So it seems to me like it's, it's kind of similar.

So just wanted to put it out there.

They may be doing something a little bit different than what.

You guys want to do.

The SEC wants to do.

But it seems like it's, there's some overlap.

So there may be especially looking for businesses to.

Or individuals.

This may be an avenue for that as well.

So just wanted to put that.

Yeah.

How big an agency is that?

Staff.

It's a small.

There's probably about three or four staff.

And they would love to come here and present.

You know, this is actually good.

That's a good idea because if you're looking for a presenter in

August,

they would probably love to come here and present to you all.

Yeah.

They've been around a lot.

I would love to hear when they are doing too.

They work very closely with AMD.

We will send.

Businesses to them and they will help them understand.

Committing.

They work on the economic development side.

So they're doing a lot of that work.

In addition to, to AMD work.

So they, they interface with a lot of different county departments.

And it's not just for the county.

It's for anybody with the county. So.

And I know.

Yeah, I think it could come in August.

That would be great.

But it would also be good if it's not breaking any rules to see if.

Jill could set up a meeting with the subcommittee to see if there's

any way to like leverage their process.

Partner,

collaborate on that, especially if they.

Got good outreach to the community that can bring in some,

and it doesn't have to be the whole thing.

It'd be like, well, maybe there's like,

because we did do some like corporate awards last year.

Maybe that's like the partnership.

And there's some other ones that.

And there's focused on sustainable businesses.

So that's their, their focus.

And we wouldn't get the students.

I know.

Oh no, Tom.

Tom's no longer.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Tom's no longer with us.

It sounds really sad.

Tom's no longer on the commission.

He was always wanting to get more student involvement in the.

Yeah.

Me awards.

And they probably don't have NGOs.

Yeah.

So, but yeah, it's a good idea.

And I think that's a good idea.

I think that's a good idea.

I think that's a good idea.

Yeah.

I think that's a good idea.

Yeah.

Well,

podcast would have been a great way to get more students.

I know.

I know we can see when I saw my role somewhere.

Fire.

Yeah.

And also just something to think about.

And I'm not sure exactly where this would fit in,

but I thought, you know, just so that you all are aware is in September.

So we're going to be doing a few more невозможно meetings.

We're going to be doing a few more meetings.

We're going to be doing a few more meetings.

And then we're going to be doing a few more businesses,

five restaurants that have excelled in the past year.

And we'll highlight them at the board meeting.

So that's around the same time.

But it's doing similar things.

So you will be doing that.

And there may be ways to kind of highlight that.

Them as well within the SEC.

So something that could possibly overlap there too.

Good.

Comments.

Our next meeting is May 19th.

And this meeting is adjourned.