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This concludes your announcement.

Thank you.

So this morning we have a few guests here to provide a presentation on Prop 47.

So thank you very much for being here today.

We also have a couple action items on our agenda items listed here.

With that, we will go ahead and get started.

Chair, will you, I'm sorry, excuse me, clerk, will you read item one into the record, please?

Yes, for item number one, you'll be acting as the Prop 47 Local Advisory Committee.

It's the discussion of Prop 47 Grant Progress.

Laura Foster.

Good morning, everyone.

Good morning.

My name is Tiana Hammack, and I am the Health Services Administrator for Adult Correctional Health.

Happy to be here today to provide an update on our Prop 47 Grant.

And so we do have a PowerPoint.

Not sure if it's going to be displayed.

No worries.

I'll just kind of buy some time.

There we go.

So next slide, please.

I believe this is the second time we have...

Do we have this one?

This way.

Great.

I believe this is the second status update on our Prop 47 Grant.

As we discussed last time, some of the goals and objectives of Prop 47 is, number one, to reduce recidivism and returns to custody.

We want the inmates that are being released from custody to participate in reentry programs.

We want to strengthen relationships between service providers for all of the pre-release and post-release services that we want to offer.

Ultimately, it's to reduce homelessness for program participants.

That's our primary focus.

And so with that, we want to increase rehousing for people exiting jail and reduce unemployment for program participants.

And third is to increase access to participation in our mental health and substance use treatment services programs by increasing access to residential drug and alcohol treatment and expanding mentorship programs for justice-involved individuals for both mental health and alcohol and drug treatment services.

So we've been busy.

It's been...

We roll out officially on July 1st.

So we have a lot of preparation that's been in place for over these last couple of months.

But primarily, we've identified the service gaps.

What is it that we really need to put our focus on with this grant?

And so we created a system map identifying the opportunities.

We've developed program definitions.

What is it that we're actually trying to do with reentry?

Who are our program participants?

What types of assessment tools do we need to make this program successful?

Also, leveraging partnerships and funding sources by creating relationships with either established community-based organizations or new relationships.

And we've hired program staff.

We can't do this without new staff.

So we have brought on human services program planner, ASOs, and also leveraged our CalAIM position since we are delaying the start for CalAIM.

Selecting community-based organizations is primary.

And so with that, we want to make sure that we've established shelter beds, which we'll go into a little bit more later.

What are the care management services that we're going to be offering?

Client assistance funds, legal services, and rehousing stabilization.

And with that, we need to make sure that we're appropriately collecting data and our evaluation framework in order to report back on this grant to make sure that we are showing that we're meeting our goals and objectives.

And establishing a workflow.

Right?

That's one of the primary things.

This is a new process inside of the jail.

The jail is already very extremely busy.

And so how are we going to be able to implement this successfully for people to be connected before they're actually released?

We'll go into the workflow in a moment.

And then our county partners with the public defenders and the conflict defenders, we have ongoing meetings to establish the procedures because we have shared clients.

And so we want to make sure that we are not duplicating efforts but actually, you know, enhancing our efforts there.

Okay.

So the local evaluation plan, we submitted that on March 28th.

It was developed by adult correctional health staff, myself and Kevin O'Connell as our primary consultant for Prop 47.

Kevin will be the lead evaluator.

This plan is essentially our roadmap for how we are standing up the pilot as well as how we are going to do ongoing monitoring in order to pivot where we need to when we have data that indicate that something might need to change.

Where we can track many pilots, so to speak, that we develop as part of our pilot project overarching goals.

But the instances where we try something new to see whether we get more advantageous or different results.

And then ultimately how we report out at the end of the three-year program to BSCC.

So Amanda Wren, pardon me, will be working with Kevin O'Connell on that.

We will be reporting out to you with the data and information as we proceed.

We won't start to really evaluate, obviously, until after the program goes live in July 1.

So in April, we actually started a pilot.

We wanted to see how many people are actually interested in services upon release.

And so we had 12 inmates screened using the questionnaire that we were drafting, trying to capture all of the elements that we want to make sure we're asking the different inmates.

And all inmates that were screened were interested in Prop 47 services.

And so that was really encouraging for us to see.

We can go to the next slide, and I'll kind of go into the workflow.

So basically what we've done is we needed to see how can we capture people.

We want to really put our focus on the quick population, right?

The people that are kind of coming in and out, going in from homelessness, exiting back out into homelessness.

That's the population we want to primarily serve.

And so in order for us to do that, we needed to capture them at intake, at nurse intake.

So we've changed our intake questions that we already had in a homeless indicator.

But if they say yes to that they are homeless, there's more drop-downs that occur.

Are you interested in services?

You know, and we have, like, various questions.

If they are interested in services, it creates an order for us to know that, yes, this is an alert for a potential Prop 47 client, which later on the CBO that we choose, the community-based organization, will pull that list and meet with them on a regular basis to do the screening, make sure that they understand what they're eligible for, that kind of thing.

If someone at intake isn't like, yes, I want to participate in homeless services, that's not the end-all, be-all, because we know people coming in are sometimes intoxicated under the influence, and they're not always, you know, willing to make changes at that point.

So there are different points throughout the incarceration period where they have the opportunity to participate in Prop 47 services.

And so one of the primary barriers that we're trying to overcome right now is that notification, right?

As ACH, we don't know, as medical staff, how quickly they're going to be coming in and out of jail.

That's not something that we're privy to.

And so that really short turnaround time for us to say, okay, yes, this person is interested.

They might want to go into a shelter upon release.

And then the next thing we know, they're saying, okay, this person is going to be released in the next couple of hours.

That's a really quick time frame for us to be able to coordinate with the outside shelter to say, hey, we have someone.

We need somebody to pick them up so that way they can go straight into the shelter.

So that is a process that we're working through right now.

We're pretty close.

We are getting a system in place.

It's still going to be a tight time frame, obviously, because of how quickly people are getting released.

But that is our goal is to get them.

They've been identified.

We have a flag.

And then that way we don't want them to be released without going into that shelter.

So with that, our contractor, the community-based organization, is going to do the initial assessment.

And they will do the pre-release coordination with the outside agencies, whether that is a shelter, whether it might be a mental health treatment program, or a substance use treatment program.

All of that's going to be happening with the community-based organization.

They're also going to transport upon discharge and link them to their community supports and also provide that ongoing support after release.

So we really want to make sure that they're getting the support that they need in order to be successful and not reenter into homelessness.

For our shelter, we do have 70 beds available.

And so that is going to be dedicated for our population.

And the great news is that they're going to be able to admit people 24-7.

So if somebody's released at 2 o'clock in the morning and they've already expressed interest that they want to go into a shelter, we can get them into a shelter at 2 o'clock in the morning.

This is a new thing for Sacramento County.

So it's very exciting that we're going to be able to do that.

And with that, the shelter themselves, we've had many conversations with them.

They actually provide a lot of case management services already.

And so they're going to be able to provide employment services and other types of things for long-term housing stability.

There is also another organization that we're working with that is more longer term.

It's kind of like a transitional housing.

But that's for the more highly motivated individuals, those that are really motivated to continue on with their recovery, not go back out to substance use, that kind of thing.

And so they're going to get more intensive services for that long-term housing.

And this is just a neat little referral pathway that we've created for you.

I say we even though it was Amanda.

And so at the top is the care coordination CBO.

That's going to be our primary contractor.

That's going to be embedded inside the jail.

They're actually going to be stationed in the jail doing all of these assessments.

And they're going to be referring to either of those two shelters or short-term housing.

And it just kind of breaks down each location's criteria.

One of our shelters with the 70 beds will allow for two 90s.

So that's good.

That's a rare find.

And so the other organization does not.

And the goal for the 70-bed capacity shelter is that they have at least 90 days to be able to stay there.

But there is a longer term, six months even, for them to be able to stay.

And while they're at both locations, they're going to be able to get a lot of different services for their long-term housing needs.

So our future steps.

We have a board date set for July 8th so that it can retroactively be live for July 1st.

And we're going to be evaluating this on an ongoing basis, bringing you updates quarterly, I believe.

And you'll be hearing from us more often on how it's going.

It's very exciting.

Again, we will have regular updates for you on this project and provide feedback and input on progress.

And basically what we would ask is any overall thoughts and priorities from your perspective and any guidance for us on engaging any of the partners that you see listed there.

And with that, the next is mine and Krista's contact information, but also Amanda will be a lead contact moving forward.

And is there any questions?

Mr. Triplett.

Thank you.

Good morning.

So many of us were here for Eric Jones' presentation on May's consent, and we heard some of the complaints from some of the law enforcement about the increased time that it takes to book.

These screening questions that are done at the intake phase, are they going to add?

Are they lengthy, detailed?

Is it going to add time to the booking process, or is it something that can be gone through pretty quickly?

That's a really great question.

No, they will not.

There was already a homeless indicator question that was a part of the intake itself, and there's just two additional questions that are just check marks.

So it shouldn't add any additional time, but there's a lot of things that we're doing to work on the booking times in general.

And then I had one more question.

The 70 beds that are available, is there going to be a way to know, like in real time, how many beds are open so that when you're screening somebody, you actually know, yeah, hey, we actually have space?

Absolutely, yes.

The CBO is going to be in daily communication with the shelter to know how many beds are open, when the next bed might become available.

So there's going to be that fluid communication.

I have a question.

I have a question.

Thank you for the presentation, first of all.

Specifically from probation's perspective, I think some of the challenges we have are the individuals that leave from custody and fail to report to our department.

So what I'm identifying here is potentially a gap in services where we can bridge that, hopefully with the CBO that could perhaps, who is identifying where these individuals are going to, to one of the shelter beds, locations, that they can perhaps maybe contact the probation intake department, you know, the intake, so that we can then use our mobile outreach vehicles to actually go to those, the locations,

because we know that transportation is a barrier for many of our individuals that might be on probation.

And then, you know, if they fail to report, then, you know, the entire cycle starts where we can't find them and then we have to issue a warrant and then the entire return back to custody.

So that would just be a suggestion that probation is somehow looped into this process of when individuals that actually are on probation or have status are released, that we can have that connectivity where we know where they are.

Absolutely. And I'm glad you brought that up because one of the questions as part of the assessment is if they are on probation and if they have to report to anyone.

And so we can just add a little caveat to say that we need to make sure that that connection is made.

That's great. Thank you.

Any other thoughts or questions?

If I, Madam Chair, sorry. I didn't know if you saw my request.

I didn't. Thanks, Mr. Lutz. Go ahead.

First of all, I really love that idea, especially with the shelter beds, if we're able to coordinate more closely with probation to actually get the mobile van out there.

I think that makes absolute sense.

We're trying to bring as many services into the shelter environment as we can.

Again, we want to set the individuals up for success when they come into the program.

So thank you for that suggestion.

Okay.

If there's no other comments or questions, I'll ask the clerk if there are any public comments for Agenda Item 1.

We do not have any public comments.

Okay.

Thank you for your time today.

Thank you so much for your presentation.

And to please confirm there's no public comments in the queue.

There's no public comments.

And also for the record, Member Brookins arrived at 835 a.m.

Welcome.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

We'll move on to, if you can please, clerk, read item number two into the record.

Madam Chair, item number two, you're acting as the Community Corrections Partnership, and it's update discussion and possible action to amend the Community Corrections Partnership bylaws.

Good morning, everyone.

Glad to be with you all today.

So as you know, we did have to cancel our last meeting, and that helped us discover a glitch in the matrix here in one of our issues in our bylaws.

And so previously, our bylaws allowed for the chair or their designee to host this meeting.

Kind of in other meetings, you typically have a chair or a vice chair.

We didn't feel the need for a vice chair because we do have designees here.

But we did run into the circumstance where both the chair and their designee were unavailable.

So we'd like to amend our bylaws to allow the chair to appoint one of you to serve as the chair in their absence if that happens so that we can still have these meetings.

And then we did make a couple other recommended administrative edits to the bylaws as well, nothing else that is substantive.

And so that's the proposal on the table today is to amend the bylaws so that we have fewer barriers to having our meetings in the future.

I will be looking for a first and a second on that one, if that's a motion that the commission would support.

Scott Triplett, I'd move to amend the bylaws as indicated.

Kelly Sullivan, I second.

It's been moved and second.

Members Benson?

Benson?

Yes.

Sullivan?

Yes.

Brookins?

Yes.

Lutz?

Yes.

Kothari?

Yes.

Jones?

Yes.

Triplett?

Yes.

Walker?

Yes.

And Chair Riri?

Yes.

Your motion passes unanimously.

Thank you.

Clerk, are there any public comments for agenda item number two?

We do not have any public comments for item number two.

And there are no comments in the queue as well, correct?

No.

Okay.

Thank you.

Okay.

Clerk, if you could read item number three into the record.

Item number three is update from Community Corrections Partnership Advisory Board.

Good morning again.

So on behalf of the Community Corrections Partnership Advisory Board, as a reminder, they are the body that meets monthly.

Earlier today you saw Brad Washburn.

He's a community member on that body.

He pops in here for the Prop 47 part of the agenda as well as Tamara Lacey who couldn't be here today.

But that's how we have that switch.

So thank you all for the trading of the hats that we did when we moved from Prop 47 to CCP.

So just a couple quick updates from the CCP AB.

They've been hard at work starting on the AB 109 Plan 2025 update that will come back to you in October for your vote.

And, of course, you'll see it before then in August as well, the draft version.

We've been getting some presentations.

We received presentations, two presentations from the Sheriff's Office, one on their reentry programs and one on their alternative sentencing programs.

We also received a presentation from probation on adult day reporting centers as those three areas are heavily funded by AB 109.

And so the advisory board was able to ask a lot of questions and get more information so that we can really fill out and fix up our descriptions that are in our AB 109 plan

and also give some things for those bodies to consider.

Another thing that happened with this group is that they have formed a standing committee for community engagement.

They will be meeting quarterly.

And that begins next week, June 5th, is the first meeting of that body.

And that group consists just of the four community members who are on the CCPAB.

And that those meetings go beyond just AB 109.

Because something we often hear in this room is we get people who come to these meetings and they care about a lot of things related to community corrections.

But it's not specific to the AB 109 plan and that work that we do.

And that's a lot of what our work here and the advisory body is focused on.

And so these meetings will be a chance to hear from the community, hopefully not just concerns but solutions,

that then we can pass on to the members who are represented in the CCPAB from the staff who are there and on to you for your consideration and your use.

It's just to create another outlet for that engagement on topics that maybe are not specific to our AB 109 plan.

So the first meeting will be focused on race, equity, and the criminal justice system.

So we want to hear from people about what it is that their concerns are and, again, what solutions they have to bring to the table.

I believe we're inviting on-track program resources who did the community health and justice project previously.

And if there's others who are interested in speaking, that group is just in that committee is just being formed.

And so there's a lot of opportunity to shape it and move it.

But the first meeting will be in June.

Their second meeting will be in August.

And the August meeting will be talking about the AB 109 plan and getting community input into that process.

And finally, you'll hear about it in our next item, but we also worked on an annual evaluation form that we'll discuss shortly.

That's all I have for you on that.

Any comments or questions?

Mr. Jones.

Thanks.

So a few weeks ago, gave the presentation to the board on the overall May's consent decree things.

And then also there is a request for qualifications going out to have a vendor come in and do an overall correctional system, you know, needs assessment and everything about do we have a new annex, do we not, et cetera.

But CCPAB will be one of the public venues, right, to get community input around a potential jail annex as well.

Okay.

Thanks.

Okay.

Any other comments, questions?

Clerk, are there any public comments for agenda item number three?

We do not have any public comments in person or online for item number three.

Thank you.

Clerk, will you read item number four into the record?

Yes, Madam Clerk, is item number four is discussion and possible action to approve the annual evaluation framework for AB 109 funded programs and services.

Back to this annual evaluation framework that I just briefly mentioned.

So a little history here and a reminder.

So last year's AB 109 2024 update was the first time that this body introduced some reporting requirements for those agencies beyond just your quarterly claims, saying this is the number that I would like to be reimbursed for.

And so there were two pieces to that puzzle.

One was quarterly.

There's some information that agencies have to provide.

And they've been doing a great job of providing that information.

But it sort of gives snapshot data of like, oh, here's how many people were admitted to this program in this quarter.

But it doesn't allow for kind of a greater overview of is this program successful and how are we measuring that success.

And so then one of the other pieces of this puzzle was to create an annual evaluation framework.

And this annual evaluation gives the agencies the chance to help us tell that story better and also have more information that you include in our AB 109 plan update.

And so over the last few months, the CCPAB has been working on this.

And we're sort of modeling this off of some type, you know, grants.

Often grants have a lot of requirements for recipient agencies.

Some counties treat their CCP and AB 109 dollars just like a grant program.

And that's something we've heard from our community is that they would like to see the evidence, right?

See how does the program, is it functioning?

Is it working?

Is this something the county should continue to support?

And so this is the step in that direction.

And so there is a, I believe it's a nine category framework that you do have in your materials today.

But it goes over a variety of different sections asking for an overview of the program.

What are the input inputs and resources into it?

What are the different metrics that are used from process metrics, output metrics, outcome metrics?

Is there any participant feedback that can be shared?

Is there any equity and inclusion analysis if that's being done?

What are the challenges and barriers to implementing this program?

And what are the recommendations and improvements?

And so the thought behind this is that this is our test year for this as we continue to refine these year after year.

But I would partner with the agencies who receive funding to build this evaluation.

The goal would be to have it in by mid-August so that we can have it in time to fold it into the next AB 109 plan.

Anything we've learned from this process.

There's going to be things that agencies can't answer or don't have.

And that's okay.

And this is the step in that direction, creating space for those conversations to start.

To understand what is your intent behind your program?

How can we celebrate the successes that are there?

We'd like those programs to take inspiration from the Appendix E that was included in the AB 109 plan itself that identified some metrics.

But those are not all of the metrics.

And we understand there are more ways to assess a program and whether it's working well and whether it's working in the way that it was intended to do.

So that is what's before you today is to start that evaluation framework to, if it's approved by all of you, this would then go into the hands of those programs and services.

And I would start working with them to get those evaluations done by mid-August to the extent that they can fill them out the best they can with our collaboration here.

And then the other thing is that we would just ask for one per program category.

So, for example, mental health diversion and collaborative courts requires a lot of partnerships here.

The court is involved, even though they're not a recipient agency of funding, but the public defender does receive funding for that.

And the district attorney's office receives funding for that.

So we'd be looking to do one evaluation that reflects all of the input from those programs so we don't see three different versions of this type of service and what the challenges are.

We want to fold it all together, make sure that it's including all those different perspectives and recognizing that that's a challenge.

And so that is one of the pieces that we would be going towards just to make sure we're not displaying the record of a program in three different ways.

And then where can we find agreement and then where do we not have agreement and let's work through those things as well.

Other programs are simpler.

You know, sheriff's office reentry, it's all them.

So that's a little bit easier.

And some programs just have more metrics and evaluation tools that they're using now.

Others don't.

That's okay.

We just want to know where you are now to where we can help you get to because we're very fortunate that we're not at the place yet where the county is needing to cut back on the AB 109 funded services that are currently supported.

That may not be the case in the future.

And we need to give the decision makers the information that they need to make those difficult decisions if and when that time comes.

So that's the idea behind this.

And we're hoping that you are supportive of the framework as presented, but we welcome any input and feedback as well.

I have a question.

So after the evaluations are provided to you or compiled in August, what's the next steps after that?

Next step is they would be shared with the CCPAB and then we would do whatever we can glean from those evaluations, put it into the draft AB 109 plan.

Particularly noting the challenges and the opportunities for improvement.

What the hope is that when that is shared with you, it's shared with you before you're making your prioritization decisions.

And so you're able to use the information in that evaluation as you choose which of these programs to prioritize.

Again, nothing is being cut.

Nothing is being recommended to be cut.

But we do have an order that we create a prioritization in the event that things change.

Or that we get an opportunity to use more money on the table, right?

So that is the intent behind it, is that it's shared with you.

It's shared with the CCPAB so that you have that information.

It will be publicly available as well.

But that's the intent.

And it's not, again, used to make any decision decisions except to inform your prioritization.

And then the plan is submitted in December, is that correct?

So it will be to you for approval in October.

Then it goes to the Board of Supervisors in November and goes to the BSEC in December.

Wonderful.

Thank you.

Any comments, questions?

Yes.

Ms. Katari.

Thank you.

Thanks, Laura.

This is great, actually.

I'm looking forward to the data.

You described when multiple agencies are funded for the same program.

Is the intent that each of them would submit to you their reports and you would roll that all together?

Or are you asking agencies to work together to kind of have a specific report that comes in as one?

I'll be looking for a point person for each of those programs and services.

Mental Health Diversion and Collaborative Force is going to be the one where we have a little bit of determination to be made about who's going to take the lead on that.

And then the agency would be responsible for making sure they're connecting with those other partners that are involved before submitting it.

So I would prefer a single submission.

But, again, I'm there to walk it through with you every step of the way.

And for some of those more complex cases, happy to sit and facilitate some meetings, do whatever we need to do to get this over the line.

Mr. Walker.

Yeah, I'm looking at the framework, number five, outcome metrics.

But I don't see that actually captured in your evaluation anywhere.

Or am I missing that?

So outcome metrics is on page two, if you're in the materials with me.

So the metrics that were proposed originally in Appendix E do not reflect the process output outcome.

Those are things we're hoping you'll sort into those buckets.

Most of them will be output measures.

We're hoping that you come up with your own outcome measures.

Can you tell us what the intent of your program is long term and how those will be served?

So it's in there.

I just, yeah.

I'm particularly looking for a quarter of the retention.

I don't see that in the actual evaluation.

So the only thing you have is the framework.

Then you have the Appendix E, which is the suggested list of metrics.

So the framework is the evaluation.

It would be basically a template version of this that would be filled out.

And those examples are things that may or may not apply to your program.

There may be more things.

If employment is related to your program and service, we would love to see things about employment placements.

If that doesn't apply to you, it wouldn't apply to you.

So it's just related to the program?

Yes.

Okay, thank you.

That's correct.

Mr. Triplett.

Hi, Laura.

When are these evaluations going to go out so that we can start working on them?

If they're going to be due August 15th, I just want to make sure we have enough time.

Tomorrow.

If you approve it today, I will get this out immediately so that folks can start working on it.

And I will be looking to the CCPAB reps, who are the agency reps in that group, to kind of take the lead on these.

And, of course, you can work with a lot of your fiscal staff, a lot of your program staff.

But, for example, the CCPAB rep for sheriff's office is Lieutenant Chris Baker.

He doesn't know everything about some of these other programs, but he's going to have to work and make those connections for us on behalf of the CCP and CCPAB.

Any other comments?

Discussion points?

No?

Clerk, if there are any public comments for this agenda item?

We have no public comments.

Okay.

Can I call for a motion?

I'll make a motion to approve the framework for, do I have to state it a specific way?

Okay.

The framework.

Thanks.

I'll second.

Okay.

Motion is made by Member Kothari and second by Member Jones.

Let's vote.

Member Benson?

Yes.

Member Sullivan?

Yes.

Member Brookins?

Yes.

Member Lutz?

Yes.

Member Kothari?

Yes.

Member Jones?

Yes.

And actually it was Mr. Lutz that made the second just for the record.

Oh, Mr. Lutz.

Oh, my.

No worries.

Thank you for that.

But yes, for me.

Thank you for that clarification.

Okay.

And yes, for Jones.

Member Triplett?

Yes.

Member Walker?

Yes.

And Chair Weary?

Yes.

Yes.

Your motion passes unanimously by motion passed by, moved by Member Kothari and second by Member

Lutz.

Correct.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Clerk, can you read item five into the record?

Item five is public comment relating to matters not on the posted agenda.

Are there any public comments?

We do not have any public comments.

Okay.

Then with that, then I will close the meeting.

It's 9.07 a.m.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.