I'd rather chair.

Oh, not me.

I just walked in and sat out.

I've been here for all of five minutes.

Recording in progress.

Good evening.

Welcome to the uh May 7th.

Planning Commission meeting.

We'll do a quick round of introductions of planning commissioners and then staff.

Ron Mortimer.

David Hart.

Danny Schoenfeld.

Steve Wrigley.

Cameron Duncan.

And then James, do you want to interview stuff?

I'm James Swordson, the community development director.

And tonight we have several of our staff members that'll you'll be hearing giving staff reports tonight.

And I'll just ask them each to raise their hand.

Mike Wilcox, right here is the planning director.

Brian McCuston, assistant community development director.

And Ivan Hooper, Transportation Engineer, will be here in a minute as well.

Sarah Stringham is a senior planner in our office.

And we have Aisha as our planning secretary and take some minutes for the planning commission.

Thank you.

We'll do a quick uh pledge of allegiance and get into the agenda.

My Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States.

Okay, our first item on the agenda tonight is the LaCai 2 annexation.

Are you introducing that Mike?

Oh Brian is.

Okay.

All right, good evening, everybody.

Uh Brian McEuston, the assistant director.

We have uh the annexations, two of them on the agenda tonight.

The first one is the LaCai 2 annexation.

Uh you can see on the map that we've got an area highlighted in yellow, and that's an area that you've already reviewed and have forwarded a positive recommendation to the council.

They've actually approved that ordinance.

So this is the second part of that, where we're taking the remaining property that the property owner owns.

All those are highlighted in red on the map, uh dealing with three different addresses.

And so um the first uh the property owner did sign a consent to annex the remainder of these properties on April 2nd of this year.

Uh the county zoning, just like the other portion has a couple different zones.

One is in the county, there's zone z C2, and then another area C2 with the zoning condition which deals with the alcohol cells, and the remainder of the property is R143.

So in Sandy, we're proposing to do those as R140 and CC community commercial, which is the closest zone that we have related to the C2 zone.

Um staff would recommend you forward a positive recommendation on this annexation to the city council.

Any questions for Bray?

Okay.

This item's been noticed at the public.

Is there anybody here that would like to speak to that item?

Anyone online, Mike?

If you are joining us via Zoom webinar and want to speak to this particular item, please use the raise your hand feature now, and we'll address you one at a time.

I am seeing no hands.

We'll close that to public comment and bring that back to the commission for deliberation and action.

Okay.

I'm ready for a motion.

Go far.

Okay.

I'll make the motion that the planning commission send a positive recommendation to the city council that the LaCai 2 annexation be approved and zoned R 140 and the community uh community commercial in a CC zone uh based upon the uh following four findings.

Is there a second?

Oh second.

David Hart?

Yes, Steve Rigley?

Yes.

Cameron Duncan?

Yes.

Ron Mortimer?

Yes.

Danny Schoenfeld?

Yes.

This motion carries.

Okay, the next item on the agenda is the annexation of Redulich.

Uh annexation.

I probably sold that wrong.

Yeah, I think it's Ridlich.

You're close.

Um so this is located at 9521 South Cassell Drive.

You can see on the map.

Um typically these properties need to be contiguous in order for us to annex.

And we've highlighted the property to the west side, which is the Van Lullen property, and that's uh that annexation has been approved by the city council.

So this property will be adjacent to the Van Lewans once that's recorded and completed.

So they wanted to join in, and so they signed a consent uh earlier this year.

And this area is zoned R110, and so we'll match it to the R110 we have here in Sandy.

Staff would recommend you forward a positive recommendation to the council on this one.

Any questions from Commission?

Okay.

This item has been noticed.

Is there anybody here that would like to speak on this item?

Anyone online, Mike?

If you are joining us via Zoom webinar and would like to speak to this particular item, please use the raise your hand feature now, and we'll address you one at a time.

I'm seeing no hands raised.

We'll close that to public comment and bring that back to the commission.

I'm ready for a motion.

Go ahead.

Make the recommendation that the planning commission send a positive recommendation to the city council that the Rudlich annexation be approved and zoned R110 based on the four conditions as outlined in the staff report.

Second.

Cameron Duncan?

Yes.

David Hart?

Yes.

Ron Mortimer?

Yes.

Steve Wrigley?

Yes.

Danny Schoenfeld?

Yes.

This motion carries.

Thank you.

Next item is the Eink uh accessory dwelling structure.

Mike, I'm guessing you have that first.

Yep.

Um so this item is uh a request being submitted by our applicant.

Oh, sorry, one second.

Uh Mr.

Sam Tanz, um who's representing the property owner Monty Inc.

They're requesting a conditional use permit for an increase in their allowable square footage for an accessory building.

This is uh property located at 1779 East 10980 South as shown here on the map.

And I believe the applicant is online.

Let me see if he's there.

Mr.

Tams, you may go ahead and unmute yourself and present your item to the planning commission.

Yeah, I'm here.

Can you hear me?

Yes, yes, we can.

Go ahead.

Okay.

Um yeah, I think we're just like a hundred or two hundred square feet over that allowable um square footage that you guys have.

So we're just requesting that we can get the additional square footage as far as the high restriction goes.

Uh we're well under the height restriction as well.

Any questions for the applicants?

Okay.

I think we're good.

Sarah, do you have any additional?

Yeah, just wanted to add um it's for yeah, any individual structure, um, the max is 1500 square feet, and then you have to move to the conditional use permit.

So this one's 1600 square feet, and then also they do have um a detached garage, so that comes into just the total overall square footage that they would be allowed.

Um so in this zone with animal rights, they can request up to 50 percent larger, so they're just almost at that 50 percent cap for total square footage of accessory structures.

Any questions for the staff?

Okay, this item has been noticed to the public.

Is there anybody here who would like to speak on this item?

Anyone online, Mike?

If you are joining us via Zoom webinar and would like to speak on this particular item, please use the raise your hand feature now, and we'll address you one at a time.

I'm seeing no other hands raised.

Okay, we'll go ahead and close that to public comment and bring that back to the commission for deliberation and action.

Someone want to make a motion, I'll make a motion.

Go for it.

Recommend that the planning commission approve a conditional use permit for an increased square footage as a and as described in the staff report for the property located at 1779 east 10980 south, based on the three findings and four conditions as outlined in the staff report.

Sir, a second second.

Steve.

Sorry, who was this Steve?

Thank you.

Cameron Duncan?

Yes.

Steve Wrigley?

Yes.

Ron Mortimer, yes, David Hart?

Yes.

Danny Schoenfeld?

Yes.

This motion carries.

Thank you.

This next item I have to recuse myself.

Obvious reasons.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay.

Next item on the agenda is the Mortimer X accessories structure.

Mike, do you have that first?

Yeah.

So the next item on our agenda is a request submitted by Felix Guzman.

Who's uh representing the property owner Ron Mortimer?

They are requesting a conditional use permit for increased building height at the uh property located at 8383 South Mesa Drive.

Um the uh I believe the applicant is here and can present on on behalf of Mr.

Mortimer.

If you could just state your name and address for the record, please.

Okay.

So my name is Felix Guzman.

Um if you can grab one of those microphones.

I don't want to speak right into it.

Sorry.

Thank you.

There you go.

So my name is Felix Guzman, and uh do you want my address?

Uh 342 North 200 West, Spanish Fork, Utah.

Thank you.

Um the project is pretty straightforward.

Uh we're just proposing to replace an existing shed in the rear yard with a new detached accessory structure that will be used as a garage.

Uh the structure is approximately 747 square feet, um, and it's about 19 feet, 19 foot seven tall.

And uh one important thing is that I like to point out that this is not an attempt to overdevelop the property or anything like that.

This is simply a functional accessory structure.

Uh no one's gonna be living in it.

It's not an accessory structure, uh an accessory dwelling unit or anything like that.

Um so we just made a strong effort to make sure that the structure fits with the in the existing site.

Uh the the site has uh, as you can see here, uh it has a slope that's pretty high and uh it has been undisturbed.

We we were able to uh approve that it has been undisturbed, so we're just trying to work with what he has uh to make it safe for everyone.

Um so I don't know if you have any uh do you have any questions?

Any questions from the commission?

So it looks like the 19th feet is to make it level with the house.

Is that why the night is to make it level with the house, but not only the house, but uh to make it high enough so that no no one can step over the roof on on the back of the slope.

How um how far from the property line is it?

So it is about seven feet from the property line in the back.

I can't really see.

And then it's how and it's three feet on the other side.

And it's three feet on the other side, correct?

So I'm assuming he'll rearrange this driveway as well, right?

Well, the driveway is gonna stay the same.

Um he already has uh access through there.

Um he could fit uh a single car or an or uh um ATV back there, which is the purpose of the accessory uh structure.

I see any other questions.

No, thank you.

Thank you.

This item has been sir, did you have any additional thought?

Um nothing really, just to mention that it's for the building height, and then also asking for that three-foot setback would generally be a little bit larger, so just waving um or doing a setback exception for to do three feet from that side property line.

Thank you.

This item has been noticed to the public.

Is there anybody here that would like to speak on it?

Anyone online?

If you're joining us via Zoom webinar and would like to speak on this particular item, please use the raise your hand feature now, and we'll address you one at a time seeing none, okay.

We'll close that public comment and bring it back to the commission for a deliberation and action.

I will be happy to make a motion.

Okay.

I'd like to make the motion that the planning commission approve a conditional use permit for an increased height and reduced setbacks as described in the staff report for the property located at 8383 South Mesa Drive based on the following uh three findings and six conditions.

Is there a second?

I'll second it.

Sorry, was that Steve?

Thank you.

David Hart?

Yes.

Steve Wrigley?

Yes.

Cameron Duncan?

Yes.

Danny Schoenfeld?

Yes.

This motion carries.

Should we should we invite Ron back in?

Yeah, could you?

Yeah.

Just make him sweat.

So Jerry, you just invite Brian.

Hey Ron, can you come back in?

Probably not.

There's one.

Yeah.

I couldn't hear anything out there.

Oh, funny.

Yes, I that's good.

So the last one.

I said all kinds of stuff.

It is recorded, so next item in the agenda is the preschool at established dance for a conditional use permit.

Mike, do you want to start?

Yeah.

This next item is a conditional use request submitted by the applicant Lisa Glick, uh, representing the property owner reim for yes, the village.

They are requesting approval of a conditional use for a preschool uh to be established in that commercial uh center.

Uh this is a property that's located at 8695 South Highland Drive, uh shown on the map.

I believe the applicant is here and can present on her request.

Yeah, if you if you could just come down uh to the uh mic, pick one of the two and just state your name and business address for the record, please.

Okay.

Good evening.

My name's Lisa Glick, and our property address is 8695 South Highland Drive.

It's established studios, and we use the studio in the evening, and we want to bring in a preschool during the day.

Anything else?

Any questions for the applicant?

How many students would you typically have at one time?

Um right now we have two rooms we want to use.

And we're bringing in a gal that's already existing preschool.

She has a morning class and an afternoon class, and she has up to 15 kids in each class.

Okay, thank you.

I'm assuming you have all the I don't see a plan.

Um but I'm assuming you have all the required restroom facilities and first aid and everything else that you would need.

We've had the building commissioner come out, our inspector, and we've had the fire.

Um we've had it inspected for both preschool and dance.

And uh yeah, we're making one more change, and that is uh a light socket that goes away from the sink.

So that's a good idea.

Okay.

Any other questions?

Yeah, Steve, what's your plan on parking and drop-off?

Okay, well, have you been to the Reims complex there?

It's fairly large.

Um so we have two options.

They could park and bring their child in.

We have two uh doors that they can come through.

Or we've asked the owner and the manager if we could do a drive-up to the curb and drop off at uh one of the um that's closer to Rich's bagel at it's in between Richard's bagel and our studio, and Richard's bagel is fine because they feel like they can bring in customers that way.

So uh, but that would be a drop off with teachers out there.

We've got three teachers that would go out and greet the children and bring them in.

And then at the curb site, so they could drop off and pick them up.

Thank you.

Any other questions for the applicant?

Okay.

Thank you.

Sarah, did you have some additional info info?

Um I think everything was covered.

You guys were um discussing the parking and the drop-off pick up pickup.

Um staff did mention that as a concern with other cars using the dry aisle or other customers.

Um we didn't set any specific conditions on that, um, but we did list that as a possible concern.

So is the limit how how many can she have in this building?

Is there what 16 at a time or what's the limit for preschool?

Um, because it's a commercial property, she doesn't necessarily based upon occupancy then?

Yes.

Yeah, totally.

I have a question.

So this is a conditional use.

Does it run with the entire building or just this tenant suite?

Would run with the entire parcel.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Um this item has been noticed to the public.

Is there anybody here that would like to speak on it?

Mike, anybody online?

If you are joining us via Zoom webinar and would like to speak on this particular item, please use the raise your hand feature now, and we'll address you one at a time.

I'm seeing no other hands.

Okay, we'll close out to public comment and bring that back to the commission.

Someone would like to make a motion.

Yeah, I'll make a motion.

Okay.

Nobody else is.

Um I move that the planning commission approve a conditional use permit for the preschool use in the CN zone as described in the staff report for the property located at 8695 South Highland Drive based upon the following two findings and three conditions.

Is there a second?

I'll second that.

David Hart?

Yes.

Cameron Duncan.

Yes.

Ron Mortimer.

Yes.

Steve Wrigley?

Yes.

Danny Schoenfeld?

Yes.

This motion carries.

Thank you.

Next is the Silver Siege estate subdivision special exception request and preliminary subdivision review.

Like, do you have that first on I do?

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

This item is for a property that's located off of 10175 South Timple Road.

This is two items that we'll present at the same time that will require two different motions, one for a special exception and one for a subdivision motion.

They are proposing a three lot subdivision on this parcel that has three existing uh parcels on it, and they'll be proposing to reconfigure those into three buildable lots.

Uh this property is also located in the sensitive area overlay.

Uh this is being presented by Alyssa Holbrook, who is representing the property owners James and Carol Bay.

I believe she's in attendance and can present on her requests.

If you could come down and there is there any option to do it later since Paxton was going to present?

Like to move it.

Do you want to table it?

Is that your request?

Not till a different date, just till later in the agenda.

We have one other agenda item.

That's okay, great.

Okay.

We've got this.

So this is.

You can see your name and address for the record or your business address for this.

Yeah.

It's Alyssa Holbrook, 4595 South Holiday Farm Lane and Holiday.

So this is our um preliminary subvision review for Silver State's state subdivision.

It is it was originally three lots, and we're continuing to have it be three lots, so it will be the same density.

There's no change in that.

Um what else would you like to know?

Um did you read the staff report and agree understand all of the conditions set forth in that?

Yes.

Okay.

And Bob has done that as well.

Yeah.

And if you can speak into the mic and state your name, please.

Yes.

My name is Bob Elder with uh 45 west, 10,000 south, uh, suite 500.

Okay.

Just right across the way.

Yeah, okay.

Um, the engineer of record is in developing the project.

We did meet with uh residents around the uh project, discussed with them concerns and addressed items within the project who tried to consider and appreciate what they were asking.

Um I did recognize in the staff report that did discuss about uh wildlife and uh passing through the property, and there was made mention on the very north side of the property.

We have a drainage that runs along the very north property, and so there's a a path that they historically could come down and go off.

Sorry, animals there and other animals that could uh travel from the east side of the property down across Dimpledale and now into Dimpledale drainage.

And so we could accommodate that.

Uh that's the natural path.

And um and then we've made some considerations saying that there won't be fences built by the future homeowners that we're still allowing the deer access.

We've also considered, can I say some other things?

We've also considered um the concerns about the light pollution or anything like that, and we've previously addressed those that those lights will be shining down, and we've talked about I think the owls were another concern with that, and so we've we've addressed that.

We've met with the residents locally at the property at the site, walked it together.

Um so uh the street improvements along the front edge of the street have been uh designed uh to be in accordance with the city standards for a 45-foot roadway section within the 60-foot right-of-way.

So if any other questions or are there any other questions from the commission?

Can we go back to can you go back to the previous right there?

So the is this a new roadway you're putting out a private drive.

Yeah, and private drive up to that third lot.

That's that's correct.

So we've given them a uh an access lineman uh to get up to their property that's uh the developable area of the property.

There is a 30% slope on the property, and that's been designated, and then the buildable limits of those lots have been defined.

So we've shown uh the access points of the driveways to all three lots on this particular plant.

And we were originally seeking five lots, but based on everything that we've understood and being working really closely with the planning commission and all of the members, we've been working on this for almost two years now.

Um we we have come to the conclusion that three lots will be the best and that it will really raise the values of the neighborhood nearby.

Um we have an exhibit.

I don't know if did Paxton have you add the exhibit of the home that might be going in.

No.

Okay, that's fine.

So back to my question.

Um the uh curve on the road that you're coming in off of a safety standpoint.

You've got cars coming through what is somewhat like a hairpin turn, and then you've got other cars coming from the other side that are coming around.

It's a little bit of a blind corner.

And I'm just wondering about uh people accessing that road, stopping, turning left, right, etc.

Let me express that.

That was one of the big considerations we made in identifying the roadway improvements as they relate to the right-of-way.

If you follow that hill, which are very familiar, there's a very steep slope off the west side back down into Dimpledale.

And so what we did is we took the 45 foot roadway section and we shifted it as far east as we could.

They're starting along the south of the property and kept that, and and the reason for that is to widen the view corridor for the traffic and improve the safety, and then identified those intersections where the driveways would come out uh to be at the safest locations and give us the best site distance.

And so we worked with the within the existing right-of-way, but we built the roadway to improve those concerns that you're talking about, those uh turning movements and giving them as much site visibility to protect the public.

And we worked very closely with staff.

I don't know, Brittany, do you want to say anything about that about the view corridor and the things that we talked about over the couple, yeah?

Come speak to it over here and a half uh Brittany Ward, city engineer.

Um yeah, Bob was great to work with.

He um made the radius of the curve of Dimple Dell a little bit larger, so it just kind of pushed it out this way to improve the view corridor.

Um, the location of the driveway.

I worked with him closely on it to push it as far north as possible because that's where the roadway starts to curve in the opposite direction.

It's always hard putting accesses on the inside of a horizontal curve because you have to look behind you to try to make those movements.

Um that will the vegetation will be impacted for those exiting and looking looking left for oncoming traffic, and so there will have to be uh some vegetation removed to improve the site visibility according to Ashto site triangle standards, um, but because that because of Bog's realignment of the center line of Dimpledel and then moving the driveway as far north as possible, um that this is the best scenario as far as protecting vegetation and improving safety for access.

Thank you.

Anyway, so much that make it in as a condition.

What?

I'm sorry, what what was your question?

Well, my question is is on the removal of the vegetation.

I just don't want an accident there.

So the removal of the vegetation, did that make it into this as a condition?

I see that a revegation.

It is if you if you go back to that uh erosion control plan, you can see um the grading and the that's a color right there.

Yeah, you can see a lot of the green in there.

That's part of the roadway that we're actually cutting the the uh vegetation back to help protect the public in there.

And if you went back in a previous uh sheet, you can see where the existing road is, and then you can see how the widening of the road, let's see, um right there.

That's a very good one.

So if you looked at the uh dark on the east edge of the or west edge, that's where the existing road goes.

And then if you come back, we're actually improving and widening the paving there.

So you're gonna actually increase the site distance through that area just by softening that radius and improving the I just want to make sure somebody was plant a tree on that corner.

Well, one of the things that is an issue here is that they want us to restrict the uh improvements within the sensitive lands area and the drainage corridor that runs along through this area here is right there in that sensitive lands corridor.

So they're a little bit restricted uh within that area because of that.

Meaning planting trees is a little bit restricted to that area because we want to preserve the view and preserve the safety of the public.

So right.

No, I I get that.

I'm just worried about somebody buys it down the road, they want to put a tree down.

And I think as you as you get with the building and the building permit process, they can help restrict that.

Well, and you can also if you can also, as you move forward, make sure that that's something in a condition that you feel comfortable with that they're not.

They follow those, like you're saying.

I think that's that's well within.

Well, and we do have that at least in uh revegetation.

No, that in it says lot will comply with requirements of the wildlife interface uh requirements with without removal of natural vegetation anyway.

We we can add an eighth one in there.

Do you we would you like to add that one in?

We'll talk about that.

Okay.

Okay.

All right, I think we're good.

Yeah, unless there's any other questions.

I had one question.

Oh, go ahead.

What are you doing?

I appreciate you keeping that open for the wildlife corridor.

Yeah, how will you guarantee that or preserve that so that somebody doesn't come in the future and add a fence?

Yeah, that's what we've designated is that there will be no fence added for where the wildlife are currently.

Is that on the it's currently not shown on the plat, but there we can identify a 10 foot uh perimeter through there that no fencing would be required to allow the animals to come down.

Okay.

Yeah, we've already discussed it.

Maybe we just need to solidify it through the plat, which is totally fine.

We're happy to do that.

We want the wildlife to be there.

That's like a huge asset to that.

That's the beauty of the lot.

Yeah, that's the beauty of this area, yeah.

And the low density there too.

Thank you.

Okay.

Any other questions?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Mike, did you have anything else?

Yeah.

So as I mentioned, this is uh both a subdivision review as well as a special exception request.

Uh the special exception request was uh touched on by the applicant uh in the road profile that they're seeking.

They are seeking a waiver of the park strip along Dimbledale Road.

That is in compliance with the uh previously agreed upon upon plan with the county and the city for the future improvements of Dimpledel and future widening efforts along that.

So they are proposing to have a six-foot adjacent um sidewalk along that edge of the right-of-way uh with no park strip.

So I just wanted to clarify that that's part of the uh proposed request that they are seeking.

They're no longer seeking a flag lot approval for this development as they reduced it from uh four lots uh down to three.

Um something that um we can also touch on is is that uh restriction on fencing.

So within this um area, this map kind of shows uh well let's see, let's go.

Let's go to this.

So this area that's shown on this map, that is that hatched area is a drainage channel, uh natural drainage channel that is used for overflow water from some of the above uh development uh to the east of this that would flow into that channel as a as a backup should the storm drains uh get overloaded, that's where they would go into.

So that area already would not allow for fencing.

Uh one proposal that uh could be implemented is that the area to the north of that drainage channel also be restricted in fencing and extend that all the way to the property line such that um that area could be remain open uh for wildlife corridor.

Um that's one way that I think uh that could be addressed.

Um so everything north of that drainage channel be left uh fenceless or and and or west of that drainage channel.

Um that could help um address the concern that has been raised uh so long as that's uh something the planning commission wants to pursue that would need to be added as another condition to the approval if that's something you want to entertain to address that wildlife corridor concern that was raised by the neighbors.

Um the 30% slope is shown in this map.

Uh these areas shown in gray would be areas that would uh be preserved and not allow for any uh development within those, and then uh from those dotted lines uh any structure would have to be a minimum of 10 feet away from the property line or from that dotted line, uh, average of 20 feet away for any structures.

Um just to uh further iterate that um those areas that are shown on that map would not allow for development uh or construction of a home.

And then um the lines here are the proposed property lines.

They're kind of hard to see with all the line work on this plat.

Um but uh there are three distinct lots that are shown there.

This property line goes along that edge of that uh proposed driveway.

Part of the reason why they're showing that is they are seeking approval to uh disturb this area of 30 percent slope and cross the creek in a couple of points, both for access to lot two as well as access uh to lot three.

Um the disturbance that they're proposing for these areas um would be required.

Um it would be fairly minimal.

This grading plan shows the proposed improvements that they're uh wanting wanting to do both on the south and north side of that uh proposed drive.

Um there are some existing uh man-made improvements in that drainage channel that create some diversion already that they're gonna going to be removing and replacing with this, so uh portion of that area it has already been disturbed.

They will be expanding upon that slightly, but a majority of the lot and that native 30% slope and that native drainage channel would be protected by the proposed improvements.

Um staff is in support of the proposed um application.

Uh and we would recommend that the planning commission um entertain two motions.

First on the special exception, um, we recommend the planning commission uh approve the requested special exception for um road improvements along Dimpledale Road uh based on the findings uh that are enclosed in our staff report, as well as recommend that the planning commission tur determine that the preliminary subdivision review is substantially complete for the Silver Sage Estates subdivision located at 10175 South Dimpledale Road based on the findings and conditions in the staff report when you're ready.

I have a question from you I think you're go for it.

Okay.

Um Mike, could you could you talk about the median that is being removed and what the plan was?

I just want everybody to understand what it is they're taking out.

I'm sorry, what?

I thought we talked about there was a median that was going to go in Dimpledale or there was some kind of well that was the sidewalk displacement, right?

Huh?

Park strip.

Park strip.

Oh.

So along is going to, I'm sorry, I got it all backwards.

That's okay.

So the park strip is being removed, which is how is it going to tie in down the street, I guess, is my question.

So let me go to an aerial view.

So currently along Dimpledale Road, it's just asphalt.

There is no curb and gutter for most of the stretch of this this roadway, neither on this side of the road on the uh northern side nor on the southern side.

There isn't curb and gutter until you get further down the road.

Um it's kind of hit and miss along Dimpledell.

So there are no current uh park strips or sidewalk in that area as I kind of zoom in on that map.

Um can kind of see on the on the west side with new development, there is some curb and gutter, but on this side there's nothing tying into this.

Um but it will tie into future improvements that this uh city county may do in the future as either development occurs or is uh city project or county project is identified.

But this will this will set a precedent for how it's developed in the future, correct?

It does.

Um and and but it does follow what uh the plan that uh the county and and city have agreed upon for the proposed improvements along Dimpledale Road.

Um I can pull up that street profile if if we need to see that.

Um but um but yes, that that would um provide for uh a minimal uh impact as you can tell along Dimpledell if you've driven through that area, it has varying widths of both improvements and and width of road, and uh trying to get a full width improvement is very difficult without severe takings through the area and impact to those adjacent properties.

So this was kind of found to be a good compromise position for that, and so uh with this development, they would be implementing that uh half-whip improvement along Dippledel Road.

And as we talked about, their their proposal actually improves some of the safety along here by uh softening that curve that is quite tight existing and and uh soften some of those uh site visibility uh triangles that would be required for it.

And it is a six-foot wide sidewalk?

Yes, as a direct adjacent sidewalk at six feet six feet in width.

Thank you.

That's it.

Any other questions?

This item has been noticed to the public.

Is please come down and state your name and address for the record.

Sure.

Peak one of the two mics and speak into it directly, please.

My name's uh George Allen.

I live at 10190 Majestic Canyon Road.

My uh west property line borders this piece of property, and I have an issue with uh the drainage.

And many years ago, if you could blow that up, maybe I can explain it better.

Like you there where the where the circle is on Dimple View Drive, over there where right a 10193, there's a detention pond.

And that detention pond, when Radden was building that subdivision, uh it was it overflowed.

And so, and that's before the whole thing was was all approved.

And I went back and we met with the city, and the engineers met with me, and along with with Radden, and they came up with a solution, and that solution because if that detention pond overflows, my house became the catch basin.

And so they came up with a way to resolve that.

And if you go at 10190, that's my property, right on the northeast corner, there is a uh uh a catch basin right there, and it also has a pipe that comes out, and water would flow down along my north property line.

Now, it's it's been this was 1999, and I realize we're going back a long way, but I have all of these letters from all of these sandy city people.

And remember back then it was the county, and so you know, all of those things, those things were going on.

So I have all of these documents, Department of Public Utilities memorandum, uh Jim McNulty, Dave Paulson, all of these people.

Anyway, one day they came out, they being your drainage people, and they were going to block off that pipe.

And they had the they had the uh plywood there, and they had the cement truck come, and I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

This is this is this has a purpose because it's what it does, it protects my property.

And so I was talking then, and I got a hold of, and I since and I've talked to Tyler Shelley, Jeremy Shipper, Mason Clark, and they all agreed that something needed to be done with this subdivision, and they called it a drainage swell channel because it's what they've done now on the property 10174.

They built a big garage, and down there they've taken that pipe and they call it is it rip rap that they put all of these rocks down, and it goes over there to the the West property line of 10174.

Yeah, right in there.

So talking with with Tyler and Jeremy and Mason, they said they recommended that they come up with a drainage swell and channel, but it's not on the plans.

And so I talked to them today at 3 30, and they said their recommendation was that that be on the plans, but they haven't seen it yet.

So I just want to go on record as saying we need to do that.

Uh I just don't want to have that closed off and and uh maybe affect my property.

More than likely, it will probably never happen because when we first started back with with Radden, they were going to build a 25-year detention pond.

They extend made that bigger to a hundred-year detention pond, and I'm almost that age now, so it hasn't happened yet, but we've got a few years to go.

So uh that's just just my recommendation.

I just like to go on record of saying that.

And I did talk with like I I talked with Tyler Shelley today, and uh he said, yeah, it should be on the plans, and he said they were working with them, but it's not on the plans yet.

So can you go back to the address?

So we're not draining water from 10174 to 10175.

Can you blow that up, please?

I don't we are possibly draining water along the north property line of 10190 from the street.

Yeah, and where's that water going?

It just now would go right down into what we call 10175, down into that piece of property.

It's been there, it's now been there for well since 1999, before you guys were even around.

So I was well, I know you were because I know who you are.

Yeah.

So I just wanted to express that.

So I think we just need to get it, get it on the plans before they're before they're approved and uh and and take care of that.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Is there anybody else that would like to speak to this item?

Well, we for just a second and then we'll get back to you.

Is there anybody online, Mike?

If you're joining us via Zoom webinar and would like to speak to this particular item, please use the raise your hand feature now, and we'll address you one at a time.

I am seeing no hands raised.

Okay, we'll close that to public comment.

And do you want to speak to that, Mike?

Or do we want to well?

I believe uh their engineer wanted to speak to that, so I'll let him address that first.

And if there's anything that uh engineering or us can address, we'll we'll pipe in.

Yeah, I appreciate that he's brought that up.

Uh we have worked with Tyler uh Shelley regarding the design of that, intercepting that drainage and carrying it along what we call our east property line.

It will take it north and intercept that uh drainage channel we've talked about earlier uh to discharge it there.

But that's not the that's a short-term uh things can go long term, but that's a short-term plan.

The long-term plan is the city's gonna upgrade the pipe that's in uh Cul de Sac Street that goes north, and then it also discharges some uh city water uh tanks and comes down on the north side of the property.

So they wanted to preserve this north drainage that we have along there to handle both the storm runoff and also uh the domestic water uh runoff.

So will you be including that in your future plan?

It is, yeah.

It is yeah, okay.

Yeah, so there's an easement along our east property line, and then there's a drainage channel that we've designed to carry that water from where the water comes out and gets discharged onto our property, we'll intercept it, take it north, and then dump it.

So it'll go it'll go along your east property line past your driveway.

No, no, it'll stay on the east property line.

Oh, it's over there.

I see and stay in the room.

And then it goes down to your drainage and then it goes and then it meets up with the rest of the water flow, right?

Does that answer your question, Dave?

Yeah.

Any other questions?

Mike, did you want to fill in anything?

It's great.

Yeah, uh my understanding is most of that drainage um that is being discussed on on Majestic Canyon Road is intended and designed to end empty out into that natural drainage channel that's on along that north side that runs all the way up uh to uh Majestic Canyon Road.

There is uh there are two outlets.

Um one is the one that was pointed out um by the resident there uh right along the north side of 10190 south.

Um the other is within 10156 along the north side of that lot that drains into and outlets into this drainage channel that's on that north side.

Um but I believe the intent is to have that one eventually blocked off so that it does go and flow all the way up to the north and then drains into that drainage channel and avoiding any flooding of these proposed lots.

So can I add something else?

We've closed it to public comment.

I'm sorry.

Um sorry, did you have anything else?

No.

Okay.

So I I think we're back to us unless there's other clarifying questions or I think there were two or discussion about two potential additions, one about vegetation.

Um do we need I think the vegetation was just they need to maintain the site triangle driveway approaches.

And that's just a simple you can do it number eight, or do you want to do uh so you're writing down something?

Okay, and Mr.

Chair, while you guys are deliberating, uh the applicant has requested a little bit more time to respond.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, please.

Thank you, members of the planning commission.

My name is Paxton Guiman on legal counsel for the applicant.

I thought that as you were the second to last item on the agenda, there's no way you would start before I got here, but I apologize for being a little late to the meeting.

Um you're here for really two reasons that are under consideration.

One is the sp special exception asking to not have the park strip.

That's an important thing because it allows us to honor the agreement with the county and the city on the width, but also it allows us to preserve that natural drainage channel, which is an important feature here.

The natural drainage channel will also function as a wildlife corridor.

So that's it's a good thing to preserve that that alignment.

And then the other one is just for the preliminary subdivision review, and that has involved extensive work with staff on the sensitive lands overlay zone.

Um you might know the history here, but we initially started off asking for five lots, and now we've landed on three.

And it's so that there are functional good-sized building pads for three good lots here.

I want to thank staff for the time they've put into this.

We've had several site meetings, several meetings, a lot of review of geotechnical analysis and slope data.

I truly believe we've arrived at the least impactful way to develop three lots in this property.

Complies with the zoning, and we would appreciate your approval.

Last point, we've reviewed the seven conditions that have been recommended by staff, and we accept all seven.

Those are good conditions.

So we stand behind the staff report and are willing to follow it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um I okay to address.

So one of the things we talked about before you arrived was the wildlife corridor, which is important to some of the neighbors and the applicants express that.

So that was one of the conditions we were gonna add.

One of the things that uh well Mike Wilcox um presented was maybe everything north of that drainage.

Is that something you guys would be okay with?

What we're what you're really saying is that there would be no fencing instead of the case.

No, it's correct.

That's really all that means.

That's right.

No fencing.

That's north of that.

Okay.

Yeah.

We could have fencing on our home side of the channel.

Uh but not on the opposite.

Correct.

And that's just fine.

Okay.

That makes sense.

Thank you.

Kevin, you want to take a stab at that?

You can have fencing, but it can only be six inches high or so.

So I don't know.

I just think you need to preserve the corridor, and it leaves it open to how you do that.

You know, sometimes the fence in a certain location may be a good thing in there.

You just need to maintain that corridor.

Right.

So I wouldn't get so specific.

Yeah.

I just say maintain the corridor.

That's fine.

For uh wildlife.

Okay.

I I agree.

I don't think you need to mention uh fence.

I I do think we ought to add that's eight on yours, right?

Right.

So then we ought to add nine, which would be to preserve the view plane as they're entering so that the site triangles, not planting anything like a mulberry bush or uh above three feet.

Whatever, above three feet or above what they can see.

Okay, perfect.

All right, then chair.

I'm ready for a motion.

Okay.

Mike, did you want to say something first?

Okay.

Okay.

So you're doing you're doing the first motion, right?

Which is the special exception.

Special exception.

Special exception and no changes there.

There's no changes there.

Okay.

All right.

So I make a recommendation that the planning commission approve the requested special exception for the Silver Sage Estate subdivision located at 10175 South Dimpledell Road to omit the park strip along the frontage of Dimpledale Road based on the four findings as outlined in the staff report.

Five.

There's five.

Sorry, five findings in the staff report.

Second.

Cameron Duncan?

Yes.

Steve Wrigley?

Yes.

Ron Mortimer.

Yes.

David Hart?

Yes.

Danny Schoenfeld?

Yes.

This motion carries.

On to the subdivision review.

Okay.

Make the recommendation that the planning commission determine that preliminary subdivision review is substantially complete for the Silver Sage Estates subdivision located at 10175 South Dimpledale Road based on the four findings.

And the seven conditions outlined in the staff report with the addition of condition number eight that a wildlife corridor will be preserved on the north side, north and west side of the existing natural drainage.

And number nine, that the site triangles of the drive approaches will be maintained.

Second.

Cameron Duncan?

Yes.

David Hart.

Yes.

Ron Mortimer.

Yes.

Steve Rigley.

Yes.

Danny Schoenfeld.

Yes.

This motion carries.

Thank you.

Okay.

On to our last item on the agenda, which is the America First Parking Access Management Plan.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

The next item is for being requested by Rail Salt Lake, who is the operator and manager of the America First Field.

This is an annual update that we do for this particular site due to the fact that they do not meet their on-site parking requirement.

So annually they come back to the city to present the uh the development options that they have for uh providing for off-site parking locations surrounding the stadium, and they're here to make their updates uh to you all tonight, and um we'll follow up with any recommendations that we have as staff who anybody want to from your staff, please come on the present.

Just state your name and business address for the record, please.

Yeah, Justin Nelson, uh Real Salt Lake, uh 9256 South State Street, Sandy, Utah.

Uh Josh Gibbons with Hales Engineering, uh, 1220 North, 500 West, uh, and Lehigh.

And Jeremy Tintinster Hales Engineering, same address.

Okay.

And what however you want to present.

We did have some slides prepared.

Um, I don't know if you have those queued up.

Should I have there?

Uh oh, right here.

Awesome.

Thank you.

There it is.

Okay.

Commissioner thanks for having us here tonight.

Uh, we're happy to be back for another year.

It's always fun to come back every year and be with you.

Um tonight, so I'm here with uh Jeremy from our team who helped with this.

Um there's been a few changes this year.

Uh more parking that has been made available.

Um in a minute, we'll kind of go over the map and talk about a few specifics.

Uh first I'm gonna have Jeremy kind of cover some of the broader uh numbers that we're looking at.

Yeah, so with this year's update, we're seeing an increase of 750 seats in the stadium, and with that it requires just a slightly higher demand in the parking stalls.

Uh we'll see that with the stadium seating for soccer events, we need the 4,717 stalls, and for a concert it's uh up to 5,560.

69.

Um, and for that requirement, we have 4,455 stalls on site, and uh surrounding locations provide um well over 14,000.

So while the site does not have sufficient stalls, it is just about to the capacity it needs in parking stalls.

Yeah, and uh the additional seats for the for a grandstand that were added to the top at the stadium, so that's 750 seats that were added there, and those are accounted for here.

Um, as Jeremy mentioned, with 4,455 official stalls at the stadium, we're really close there.

We nearly they nearly meet the 4700 required there, which is closer than it has been in the past.

There's a lot more uh close by that are more official secured stalls by RSL.

Um this is the map of the um uh official and unofficial stalls.

Um on the left side that the biggest change is uh Jordan Commons is now added as an official secured uh parking area, which it has not been in the past, it has not been official, but now uh with the entities uh aligned, I guess, between the two.

Uh it is now part of the official stalls, which is a great benefit, I think, to this uh parking plan.

Um so on the left side, those are the 4,455.

On the right is uh nearly five 5500 stalls.

Um the the one one one the one parking lot we leave out of that, uh kind of 15 minute radius you see on the outside is the Sandy Civic Center track slot, which people can still take to get down there pretty quickly.

Um the shuttle is still shown as part of the the larger picture, taking people down to the city hall area.

Um couple more updates that were made with the Monroe uh uh street extension.

Um there were some lots that there was a canyons west lot that is now gone because of the road being there.

So there was some decreases in some areas, but obviously the Jordan Commons having 2500 cells uh was a huge increase locally by the stadium.

So that's all we had for tonight, but happy to answer any questions.

Any questions?

I think we're good, thank you.

Mike, did you want to fill in?

Yeah, uh so just to uh also add the intent is not for uh the stadium to provide their total number of parking that on site uh because we wanted to not require massive fields of parking around the stadium.

So they've done a really good job of working with surrounding property owners over the years to uh provide the parking necessary and have managed that parking uh quite well over the years.

So I wanted to add that.

Uh there were just a couple of things that uh we wanted to see included uh with the extension of Monroe uh Plaza Way all the way out to 9400 South.

Uh that a traffic study needs to be updated.

One has not been done since 2008, as that road does help uh change some of the traffic patterns and flows.

Uh we wanted to have it uh an updated study done on that.

So uh we're recommending that that be included in uh our subsequent years update in 2027.

Um there were a couple concerns about having um uh neighborhood areas um provided as a as a map area to show where parking is not allowed.

Um generally speaking, that's not an issue for uh game nights, but concerts can become an issue because we get a lot of people that have not been to the stadium before and are unfamiliar with the area.

So we want to make sure we're having that information made public as to where it's not acceptable to park for game nights and event nights.

Um they are increasing the number of uh concerts and other things going on at the stadium, which is great.

We love the activity being added.

Uh we just want to make sure the public's well informed of what uh is acceptable in the area.

Um then uh there are some outdated references in the in their um uh plan that reference old code, just so just some minor things that need to be tweaked um in their plan.

Um but otherwise staff is uh recommending that the planning commission review and update the 2026 parking and access management plan for the American First Field located at nine 9256 South State Street based on the findings and conditions in the staff report.

Any questions for Mike?

Yeah, I have one if that's okay.

Mike, this is not on any specific item here, but from your standpoint from the city, have you guys we discussed this probably three or four years ago, you know, comments from the public.

Have you seen anything new or anything unusual in terms of complaints or issues relative that to come to your attention?

Um I have not received anything uh personally um nor am I aware of any large complaints that we're that we've been getting.

Um but um some of the ones previous Hidley had been solved, but I do like Mike just the reminder of what's appropriate and where it's supposed to be parked that protects those neighborhoods.

Great, thank you for marking that okay.

Yeah, please come up.

Yeah, I'll just I I wanted just to say one thing.

One complaint we do get, we've gotten a few phone calls from the city are just that when we do, especially with now we we line cones down state street, we've moved our traffic management back a little bit in the day just to make sure that flow everywhere is good throughout the day like normal.

And we have gotten some phone calls lately about the neighborhood just being concerned that those signs saying no parking in these areas um aren't out yet.

Um so I just wanted to make sure to clarify that you know that's part of the plan.

We just kind of we we we just wait a little bit later in the day to keep traffic flow on state street normal and things like that.

And so I've noticed that.

So I just wanted to throw that out there for you if if you catch wind of that.

I think that's important to call out.

And then the other thing I just wanted to mention, one of the first things that came up was the was the new traffic study.

And we are working on that.

We're a little later than we usually have come to you guys.

Um we kind of were we're working through that.

What we decided to do was they're working really hard right now with LHM as a whole on a traffic study for the entire complex as far as Jordan Commons goes and the stadium upgrades that we're making.

And so as that scope becomes more clear, we'll have that plan for next year for sure.

Thank you.

Any uh anything else, Mike?

Nothing further.

Okay.

This items have been noticed to the public.

I don't see anybody here that would like to speak on that.

Anybody online?

If you were joining us via Zoom webinar and would like to speak on this particular item, please use the raise your hand feature now.

Raise your hand feature now, and we'll address you one at a time.

Uh looks like we do have one uh hand raise.

Um Miss Christine Wheat, you may unmute yourself.

Please state your name and record uh name and address for the record, please.

My name is Christine Wheat, and I live at 9241 South Benton Way, um on the east side of State Street across from the stadium.

And despite what I'm hearing about keeping sure that the roads are blocked in the neighborhood, I would just like to say our neighborhood has not had the barricades up for pretty much all of la the half of last year's season and so far this season.

There have been no barricades up.

And when they do put them up, if they do, it's put up under a street fine, not in the road.

So it doesn't block anybody, it doesn't defer them from parking in the neighborhood.

And frankly, I get kind of irritated with it.

Thank you.

Does that complete your public comment?

Yeah, so I just want to know what you guys are gonna do to fix that.

Yeah, I'm kind of bugged every time there's a game.

It's not just the game, not the concerts, it's everything.

Okay, thank you.

Anybody else online?

I'm seeing no other hands raised.

Okay, we'll close that to public comment.

Does anybody from RSL want to just respond to the per question?

Yeah, uh, I'll just say that uh personally that's the first time hearing of that.

I'm looking at the address right now, and that's something that I will I can personally make a commitment to.

We will add a little bit, we'll add more signage and more blocking there at Benson Way.

That looks like a spot that could be a problem if we're if it's being neglected by the traffic control.

Just a comment too, though.

I wouldn't suggest putting things out in the street unless the city approves of that.

Yeah, um, you know, I'm okay with it on the site, but until the city says yeah, I would not get too aggressive with those.

Perfect.

And historically speaking, what that has constituted is a construction sign that says no parking is placed in the middle.

So it allows for traffic in and out.

Well, that's but it provides a notice of traffic than speed room with the city.

Yeah, right.

Yeah, the intent is not to barricade off the streets, but um I know uh in in past we've had just a single five-fold uh traffic uh device with a no parking sign or neighborhood parking only or something like that uh that was placed at the entrance of some of those neighbor uh neighbor streets, uh neighborhood streets, I should say.

Um so yeah, we'll want to make sure that that's uh still being implemented and and put put into practice.

But there's already we don't need to make a motion item on that because that's already in the plan, right?

It is still in the plan, it's just a matter of execution.

That's fine.

Oh those are okay.

Um is Steve is that enforceable?

I mean, if the people you put the signs up in some way to decide you're still gonna park, is there any thing that Fed the homeowner could do?

So if if there are uh issues of parking uh within the neighborhoods, uh they can contact our police department and um they will will respond to the to the issue and complaint.

Um I believe uh they can tick it and they can tow.

Great, thank you.

Okay, um, based off of that, um any further deliberation or possible action?

I I have a question.

Okay.

And it um it kind of does and doesn't have any impact on what we're gonna do with you guys.

So it's just bear with me for a minute.

We uh we now have um uh real salt lake.

We have the um exhib exhibition center.

That's not the right word, exhibits expo, the expo listen, I was on an airplane ten minutes before this meeting, so my brain is I'm at a different time zone.

Um we've just added um two large facilities for the Smith Group south of there for basketball and hockey.

And when everything's up and running and there's a Saturday and kids are going out there to play hockey and basketball, and we got a soccer game and the expos showing boats.

Have we thought about traffic for the whole city?

Have we thought about doing some kind of a study not only to incorporate just RSO's needs, which I think you're doing a great job, um, but also what's going to happen in the future.

And I know they're like almost a mile apart, but parking tends to go for several miles when it gets clogged up.

And I'm just trying to figure out how we do we or how we address all of that.

I I can I mean go ahead if you have some specifically for your I just wanted to make a comment that we've been working with Sandy PD, and we've been working with the Hale Center, we've been working with the Expo Center.

Um we haven't quite engaged with Smith Group yet on their facility as it's kind of getting up and running right now.

Um but with the the plan right now uh as we're pushing for because honestly, Hail Center is actually one of the bigger challenges for us just because of where the the egress tends to go to get to the freeway.

Um what I'll say is we're trying to put together kind of a centralized group that can work together to come up with one traffic plan rather than us establishing our own traffic plan with the police and then hail centers got their own and so on and so forth.

We're trying to come up with one fluid plan that incorporates everything for when we have those conflicts, just so from the RSL side.

I think that's great.

I know that when we were doing the public safety building downtown, I had a conversation with one of the members of the police department, and he said when the church and the basketball gets rolling and they have a conflict where both are up, it's just total gridlock.

And so I'm a little gym soft.

I'm just thinking.

So go ahead, Jim.

No, I'm I'm good.

I I I thought that was exactly what um but what I was doing is uh I know that our staff is looking at it as well, and that's something maybe maybe it's a little longer than you want to address tonight.

Um, but it might be something that we come in, our staff um with transportation and so forth during one of your executive sessions if you're interested in that.

That'd be great.

And they can give you an update on what they're looking at and some of the things that we're seeing in the future that we're gonna do with that.

But I think it's a great topic, and you want to know, but I I think rather than just calling them up that let them prepare and come and do that with you at an executive session.

That would that'd be great.

Okay.

Okay, and with that, I'm ready for a motion.

Please.

Um I'd like to make the motion that the planning commission uh reviewed and approved the 2026 parking and access management plan for America First Field located at 9256 South State Street based on the following what two findings and um uh two conditions.

Sorry, a second.

I'll second David Hart, yes, Steve Wrigley, yes.

Cameron Duncan?

Yes.

Ron Mortimer?

Yes.

Danny Schoenfeld?

Yes.

This motion carries.

Thank you.

All right, that concludes our um public hearing business, administrative business, April 16th meeting minutes need to be approved.

I have a couple of corrections on that, if I could just note those.

Please.

Um so the first one was on the or is are you showing ready for that?

Yeah.

The the building LLC commercial condo, that's the one that I recused myself.

It has me under the yes for the votes.

So probably need to tabulate that as a recused.

And then the same thing for Mr.

Mortimer when on the next minutes.

I wonder how you voted.

And then the next one, and I it's uh it's on the Hartman estates under the absence at list the same people that voted yes as the ones that were absent.

So just to correct that for the three folks that were here.

And with that, those two changes.

I'm ready to make a motion that we approve.

All in favor?

I mean, Mike?

And just note we had some technical issues uh that happened on the back end that probably caused some of those issues because everything got screwed up as far as who was a voting and who attended, and so yeah.

Hopefully that won't happen in in future ones, but that was we kind of had to recreate the wheel of of that whole issue uh of attendance and voting.

So we'll get that that cleaned up.

We basically felt pretty good and it only affected you.

Nothing personal.

Six years, and that's the first time I found it.

Yeah, that's pretty good.

Um I don't have anything specifically um other than to thank you all for being here.

And David, thank you for for uh coming and helping out tonight.

I know that was a rush for you.

Um but it affected it affected Ron the most.

So we do appreciate that.

I'm gonna turn it over to Mike, he has some staffing and a couple things you might want to talk to you about.

I do.

Thank you.

Uh I'll echo that.

We I was getting nervous as we were getting close to this and and wondering if we were gonna have a quorum.

So I appreciate you all for for coming tonight.

Um we do have some staffing uh news.

Uh Cash, Hansi, if you'll come down to the podium there.

Um so as you're aware, Thomas uh Irvin uh departed the city a couple uh last week.

We also lost Brynn Bullander.

Um she um took a job uh with Snell and Wilmer and uh working as a planner for them.

Um so we're in the process of hiring um uh that position, Brent's position, so that position is uh open and we'll be beginning interviews hopefully here in the next uh coming weeks.

But we were able to fill Thomas's role uh recently with Cash Hansy, and I'll allow him to kind of introduce himself to you.

Thanks, Mike.

Well, good evening.

I'm I'm excited to be here and join the the Sandy team here.

I've I've enjoyed my first week.

It's been drinking from a fire hose a little bit, so uh professionally I've spent the last uh five and a half years with Vineyard City's their senior planner.

So I was overseeing kind of the Utah City development down there and the explosive growth growth that that city is has experienced.

So I'm excited to see the new challenges here in Sandy and be part of the team.

Cool.

Welcome.

Thank you.

Yeah, we're excited to have Cash.

He's he's gonna be a great fit for our group.

Uh Cash actually interviewed for our development services manager uh manager position um a few months ago.

We hired Clint out of that group, um, and he's been great, and so we feel very fortunate that he hadn't been taken by someone else, and that he was still available and willing to come over and work with us uh in this capacity.

It was kind of an unexpected thing that we lost Thomas.

Um but uh we wish him well in his future endeavors and we're grateful to have Cash uh join our team.

And then we'll have one new planner that we'll hopefully be able to announce uh sometime in June.

Okay, okay.

Anything else?

Okay, take one last motion.

I have one question.

Are we meeting in two weeks?

Yes, we will have a meeting on May 2st.

Yeah.

One last motion.

We'll be discussing a couple of things there that are I think very pertinent.

Uh ADUs will be discussed in our executive session.

So we'll be seeking some input and feedback from you all on that topic in particular.

Uh as we're moving uh the council's giving us direction to move forward on adopting the code.

So um we'll be testing some ideas out with you, um, getting seeking some feedback as to the types of rules and regulations that we should implement as part of our uh process of uh crafting the code that we'll eventually bring back to you later this summer.

Uh we have to have something in the adopted by the council by October 1st.

That's the state mandate that has been uh handed out that we have to allow for ADUs in certain situations and on certain lots uh throughout the city.

Uh we have some consequence if that deadline's not met.

We have to adopt the city or the can the state's minimum standard.

Otherwise.

Otherwise.

By default.

By default.

So even if our code isn't updated, the state code rules.

Right.

And the importance of that is they're giving us an opportunity to still do some things that we want in it.

And that might not happen if we don't adopt it by that time.

I guess it was one.

Yeah, I didn't know if they gave you a grace period or anything, but it just the grace period is usually these types of things go into effect in May.

Yeah.

Uh and they gave us a few more months uh until October to hit to get that our heads around it.

Yeah.

So uh we're grateful that we have a few more months to to get our input and and fine-tune what we want to see in Sandy that fits our city.

So um and when is that again?

October 1st.

Oh, October 1st is when the state code goes into effect.

Okay.

So we just have to be in October 1st.

Correct.

So we're our our intent is to have something in place as soon as we can.

Uh we don't want to rush it, uh, but we want to be smart about it and cover all of our bases as best we can.

And that means that it has to go from us to the uh city council, and they have to approve it, and it can be implemented, right?

Correct.

So this is kind of the start of that.

We've been working on uh some draft language and and things like that, but we want to get feedback from you.

We've gotten feedback from the council, they've given us some directive and uh we'll be asking for further input and feedback and having a dialogue and discussion with you all at our next upcoming meeting.

Okay.

Uh the other thing I can update you on is we are doing uh interviews this month with our uh consultant or uh on the land development code.

Uh so we'll be asking you all to participate in those interviews.

Um we're hoping to do small group interviews of three at a time uh type of a thing so that we get your input and feedback.

We're worried if we just brought you all in, we might hear from one or two of you, but not all of you.

Um so we'll try to do those small group meetings and and schedule some time with you all um coming up here soon.

Hopefully um we'll have something out next week to with some dates and times that you'll be able to sign up and those emails came out today.

Oh, they already came out.

Yeah, okay.

Perfect.

I hadn't seen that yet, but I know Melissa was been uh working on that diligently.

Um we're trying to get all of that uh the in the one-on-one interviews and things like that done this month so we can keep that project moving ahead.

But we're really excited about that and how that's moving ahead.

So we appreciate your your time and efforts in that uh in that aspect in advance.

And I think that's all the updates I have.

Okay, I'll remake the motion to adjourn.

All in favor?

Thank you all.

Thank you.

Have a good evening.

Uh good weekend.

Oh, and I got a uh note.