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Planning Interview Panel and Mock PC Presentation – May 20, 2026

Meeting Portal — Wednesday, May 20, 2026
BodySandy, Utah
SessionMeeting Portal
DateWednesday, May 20, 2026
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
0:08

That's typical.

0:09

I mean I think a lot of planners hang around for two or three years in the first job and then they're off to greener pasture somewhere else.

0:18

I was just thinking that for other little side things, uh to can you continue growing his skill set.

0:27

Well then I think that's where I was mentioning aptitude and and ability and and showing your merit and showing your ability to get what you're already given before you're given additional uh button above.

0:41

Uh on a contract.

0:42

Uh huh.

0:43

On an agreement or a contract.

0:46

James.

0:48

You will live in Sandy for you will be a slave to me for a minimum of five years before your natural two is up.

0:57

Well then Brian and I can get a contract out of you, James.

1:00

That's right.

1:01

Yeah, it goes both ways.

1:03

It's true.

1:05

Goes both ways, James.

1:06

How many years can we sign you up?

1:10

Especially now that your best friend's retiring.

1:13

That's actually gonna be better for me.

1:15

For your weight loss goals.

1:17

Yeah.

1:18

And money.

1:19

It's so expensive to go off.

1:21

Well, he's not paying this week.

1:23

He's not paying each week for your set your lunch.

1:26

He's not treating you out to lunch?

1:28

Never.

1:29

Oh, what a jerk.

1:31

No.

1:33

Shake.

1:35

We do go up and it's not.

1:36

She comes down pretty much every day and says, Let's go to lunch.

1:40

Oh yeah.

1:40

And James says, okay.

1:42

You let me know if you're ready.

1:44

Is that like a role in the lobby?

1:51

And let's sweat.

1:53

Oh jeez.

1:54

So it handles pressure.

1:56

Well, um give give Jake a chance to actually read the other staff report.

2:03

Well, I I thought the first applicant was very strong, I was impressed.

2:09

This one I can't believe he's never done.

2:12

He's away.

2:13

I know.

2:15

Oh yeah, he's yes.

2:19

What do you mean knowing it's said nine?

2:22

Can you see it for you?

2:23

It's a solid nine.

2:25

Oh, you see the shape.

2:29

No, like as a like a down there.

2:33

I heard a number, sorry.

2:34

Deniable.

2:35

Interesting.

2:36

Yeah.

2:37

We've had we've had this before where we had an embedded and analysis based on denial and sometimes you use as I think you in fact in your interview.

2:50

You recommended not putting the proposal.

2:53

I don't remember recommended tabling it.

2:56

Yeah.

2:57

Which wasn't unique amongst the applicants.

3:00

Oh yeah.

3:02

Maybe it deserves it.

3:05

But you can't.

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Summary of Proceedings

Planning Interview Panel and Mock PC Presentation – May 20, 2026

On May 20, 2026, the Sandy City planning interview panel conducted a second-round interview for a planner position, including a mock Planning Commission presentation by candidate Michael Jones. The panel consisted of Development Services Manager Clint Spencer, Zoning Administrator Melissa Anderson, Planning Manager Warner, and other staff members (Brian and James). The session focused on evaluating Jones' ability to review a conditional use permit (CUP) application, present findings, and respond to general planning scenarios.

Mock Planning Commission Presentation

  • Candidate Michael Jones presented a staff report for a proposed conditional use permit for Wade Tree Service, a home occupation at 9470 South Cobalt Circle (zoned R-18). Key issues included non-compliance with city code: three commercial vehicles stored on site (only one permitted), material storage in yard spaces, and potential employee parking on streets.
  • Jones initially recommended denial unless conditions were met, citing non-compliance and the need to mitigate impacts.
  • Panel members questioned the recommendation. Clint Spencer noted that state law presumes CUP are permitted uses unless detrimental impacts are proven, making denial difficult. Jones clarified that if conditions were imposed (e.g., reducing vehicles, removing materials, road damage bond, compliance reviews), approval could be granted.
  • Jones identified gaps in his own information: lack of the son's name (business operator), additional site photos, and a site plan.

General Interview Questions

  • Approach to the CUP review: Jones described starting with the code, comparing the request to home occupation standards and parking rules, then listing conditions.
  • Hypothetical mistake scenario: Asked how he would handle a missed setback after permit approval, Jones stated he would contact the applicant, acknowledge the city's error, and ensure future reviews are thorough.
  • Explaining regulations to frustrated applicants: Jones cited an experience with ADU updates, emphasizing that state law compelled the changes, not his personal opinion.
  • Team qualities: Communication and timeliness were highlighted.
  • Professional growth feedback: Jones noted a previous supervisor advised him to ask more questions upfront to reduce rework; he now does so.
  • Prioritizing competing deadlines: He would communicate with supervisors to determine priority and seek assistance.
  • Long-term planning interests: Jones expressed a passion for long-range community planning and designing for future generations.
  • Question from panel: Jones confirmed he was recently laid off from Johnson Demill Engineering due to slow work, and that his departure was performance-related but primarily due to lack of projects.

Key Outcomes

  • The panel provided feedback: Jones' recommendation should have been clearly "approve with conditions" rather than playing both sides; staff reports should present a clear recommendation with alternative scenarios.
  • No decision was made during the meeting. The panel indicated a decision would be communicated to Jones by Friday, May 22, 2026.

Meeting Transcript

That's typical. I mean I think a lot of planners hang around for two or three years in the first job and then they're off to greener pasture somewhere else. I was just thinking that for other little side things, uh to can you continue growing his skill set. Well then I think that's where I was mentioning aptitude and and ability and and showing your merit and showing your ability to get what you're already given before you're given additional uh button above. Uh on a contract. Uh huh. On an agreement or a contract. James. You will live in Sandy for you will be a slave to me for a minimum of five years before your natural two is up. Well then Brian and I can get a contract out of you, James. That's right. Yeah, it goes both ways. It's true. Goes both ways, James. How many years can we sign you up? Especially now that your best friend's retiring. That's actually gonna be better for me. For your weight loss goals. Yeah. And money. It's so expensive to go off. Well, he's not paying this week. He's not paying each week for your set your lunch. He's not treating you out to lunch? Never. Oh, what a jerk. No. Shake. We do go up and it's not. She comes down pretty much every day and says, Let's go to lunch. Oh yeah. And James says, okay. You let me know if you're ready. Is that like a role in the lobby? And let's sweat. Oh jeez. So it handles pressure. Well, um give give Jake a chance to actually read the other staff report. Well, I I thought the first applicant was very strong, I was impressed. This one I can't believe he's never done. He's away. I know. Oh yeah, he's yes. What do you mean knowing it's said nine? Can you see it for you? It's a solid nine. Oh, you see the shape. No, like as a like a down there. I heard a number, sorry. Deniable.

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