OPENPUBLICA · PUBLIC MEETING RECORD
Record of Proceedings

Seattle Governance and Utilities Committee Special Meeting - July 29, 2026

City CouncilWednesday, July 29, 2026
BodySeattle, Washington
SessionCity Council
DateWednesday, July 29, 2026
StatusNEW · FILED
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Hey, good morning, everyone.

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The July 9th, 2026 meeting.

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Good morning.

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Hello, everyone.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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We're starting.

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I'm sorry.

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I we kept you waiting.

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Good morning.

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And we're live right now on TV.

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All right, you ready?

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All right.

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The movie has started.

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Good morning.

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The July 9th, 2026 meeting of the Governance and Utilities Committee will come to order.

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It is 9 36 a.m.

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I'm Joy Hollingsworth, Council President.

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Will the clerk please call the roll?

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Councilmember Kettle.

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Hi.

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Councilmember.

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Councilmember Rivera.

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Councilmember Strauss.

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Vice Chair Warez.

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Chair Hollingsworth.

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Here.

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Chair, there are three present.

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Awesome.

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Councilmember Warz is excused.

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And Councilmember Rivera is excused until she gets here.

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Happy July.

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It's July, right?

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Happy July.

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We're gonna jump right in.

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We have a full agenda, so we're gonna jump right into the meeting.

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And I know that we have some committee meeting uh members that might have hard stops, so we're gonna power through.

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We're gonna now consider the agenda.

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If there's no objection, the agenda will be adopted.

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Hearing no objection, the agenda is adopted.

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We'll now open the hybrid public comment period.

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Public comments should be related to items on today's agenda or be within the purview of the committee.

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Clerk, how many speakers do we have?

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So we have Chair, we have six in person, none online.

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Okay, awesome.

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Each speaker will have two minutes.

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The public comment period will, I'm gonna read the directions will be moderated in the following matter.

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Speakers will be called in the order in which they are registered on council's website and the sign-up sheet available here in council chambers to my right, your left.

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If you have not registered to speak but would like to, you can sign up before the end of the public comment period or on the council's website.

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The link is listed on today's agenda or by signing up on the sign-up sheet.

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When speaking, please begin by stating your name and the item that you are addressing.

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You will hear a chime when 10 seconds are left.

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So you still have 10 seconds, you'll hear a chime.

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Uh, if speakers do not end their comments at the end of the allotted time, the speaker microphone will be muted so we can call on the next person.

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The public comment period is now open, and we'll begin with the first speaker on the list.

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I see we have Marta Johnson followed by Mayori.

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May I say the right?

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Okay, I'm sorry.

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Peter, we have Becca, Sarah, and Michael.

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Welcome.

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Hello.

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Can you hear me?

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Yeah, okay.

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Hi, Council members.

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My name is Marta, and I'm here with Force Seattle.

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I'm also a resident of Fremont.

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I'm here today in support of the utility discount program expansion.

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Thank you, Councilmember Strauss and Chair Hollingsworth for your efforts with this legislation.

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As we expect large utility rate increases next year, now is the time to make sure this pre-existing program gets effectively delivered.

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Expanding who qualifies is a chance to reach more individuals and really deliver the dollars we have set aside.

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And one theme is very, very clear.

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It's becoming harder and harder to live and age in this city.

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The UDP program is a much needed step to bring relief to these individuals.

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I encourage you also to support the amendment to require yearly reporting for enrollment numbers.

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And I also believe and encourage you all to consider creating a yearly enrollment goal.

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This is an accountability measure that will ensure we are all moving in the same direction.

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We have a real opportunity here to show that our city can deliver and bring real savings to our residents.

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Thank you for your time and all your work.

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Thank you, Marta.

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And for the record, Councilmember Rivera has been here the whole time.

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I apologize, I missed that.

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Councilmember Rivera is here.

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Really appreciate that.

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Thank you, Marta.

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Uh, next we have uh Mayori, and followed by Peter Wu.

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Thank you, Chair Hollingsworth and Council members.

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Uh my name is Miury Rao, and I live in Mount Baker, and I'm a member of Fort Seattle.

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Uh, I'm here to ask you to support the utility discount program legislation.

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Uh, I'm a primary care physician, and many of my patients are living on fixed incomes.

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Um, and I see every day how rising utility costs affect their health.

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Last winter, one of my patients, a disabled veteran, told me he'd been rationing his medications so he and his wife could keep the heat on for their newborn.

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We connected him to help he was eligible for, but not before he'd been making this impossible choice for months.

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And I hear again and again in my work that the stress of navigating complicated benefit programs is a double burden on top of financial hardship and health challenges.

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My patients give up and they suffer.

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A responsible public program has to make sure the people it's meant for know about it and can easily enroll.

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I especially appreciate that this bill will work to make signing up for the utilities discount program simpler.

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The city has already set aside funding, so let's make sure it actually gets to families in need.

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I hope you'll move this forward and thank you.

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Thank you.

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How do I say your last name?

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Rao, Dr.

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Rao.

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Thank you.

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Uh we have Peter.

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Welcome, Peter, followed by Becca and Sarah, and then Michael.

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Welcome.

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Peter.

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Hi, thank you for your time.

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Um my name's Peter.

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I live in Columbia City, and I'm also here to help uh ask you past the UDP expansion.

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Uh, I support the expansion because it's been a massive boon in the life of a close family friend.

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Uh, my family friend is an elderly Chinese immigrant who only worked for about 10 years before retirement.

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Um, so she her social security hasn't been enough to cover her bills, and she's actually been enrolled in UDP, and it's been a huge boon in being able to survive and take care of her sister's medical needs.

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Um, I particularly urge you to uh make enrollment automatic so that others uh are able to get in the program.

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As I understand that the city already knows who most of the um eligible uh people would be, but less than half are enrolled.

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My mother helps with translation support every year with my family friend, so that uh she can get enrolled in all these programs, and she always needs the translation support uh and because she's so stressed trying to get through all the paperwork.

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Um, and with less than half of eligible of residents receiving support for UDP, the city the city must act to enroll other seniors who might not have the same level of advocacy and reduce the paperwork burden for everyone.

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I also support the annual reporting requirement and ask you to provide a goal for enrollment to ensure the city is living up to its ideals.

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Thank you for your time.

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Awesome, thank you, Peter.

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Next we have Becca.

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Welcome, followed by Sarah and then Michael.

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And then we'll go online to David Haynes.

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Good morning.

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Uh thank you, Council members.

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My name is Becca Miller Rose.

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I live in Columbia City.

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I also work actually in senior health care and see firsthand how utility discount programs are I'm here to support the utility discount program expansion legislation, and I see firsthand how that impacts people.

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But also as a citizen of the city, I think we all feel the zeitgeist for having a government where that can truly deliver and a government that's holding itself accountable.

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The zeitgeist is strong.

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We are hungry for this now more than ever.

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I think I'm part of the four Seattle group, and part of what we all are coming together for is good intentions aren't enough.

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It's a credit to the city that we have this program, but having the program is not enough.

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We need to ensure that the program is working, that it's getting to people, that it's having an impact, that our government is delivering for the citizens of Seattle.

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And I think there's a really strong feeling right now in the city that this is what we're asking of you all, and so we're asking of our government to be accountable to its own ideals.

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And I think this is a great opportunity to move a step in that direction.

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So thank you all for your work on this.

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Thank you, Becca.

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Becca Miller Rose.

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Sounds like a nice designer purse.

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Yeah, it's dope.

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Sarah.

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Good morning, council members.

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Uh, today I'm speaking on the uh annual status report, and I'm also here to thank you for your work on the UDP program, which uh I'm already qualified for, but I think it should be accessible and easier to apply for because currently it's kind of convoluted.

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There's a like a lot of limited deadlines and things going on, you know.

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And making it easier, I think would help a lot of people, especially if how unaffordable things are becoming.

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Um just one thing with the public safety report.

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It's just kind of concerning a lot of the remarks on how uh none of the public safety comments have been like implemented.

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I know his work being done on that has been a lot of transitions, but I think that's kind of important, especially um certain neighborhoods uh have more impact on that.

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You know, there's a lot of safety issues uh, especially if people have to walk around in public and don't have the ability to drive place to place.

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But again, thank you for the UDP program.

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It is a very great resource, and it has helped thousands of people and well, thousands more.

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Thank you.

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Awesome, thank you, Sarah.

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And it's good to see you too as well.

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Uh Michael.

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Hey, Michael.

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Hello.

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Uh so I'm Michael.

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I'm a Finney Ridge resident.

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Uh, I'm here to support the utility discount program.

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Uh paperwork is a burden on all of us, uh, but I think it should be less of a burden on those eligible to receive this program.

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So I support easier enrollment.

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Thank you.

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Awesome.

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Thank you, Michael.

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Uh, next we have we're gonna go online.

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You're gonna press star six.

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Unmute yourself, Mr.

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Haynes.

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All right, thank you.

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David Haynes.

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I think it's pretty obvious that the city auditor is not qualified nor trustworthy to analyze the effectiveness of bad policies regarding public safety, where you're literally capitulating the integrity of oversight by just copy cotton Baltimore.

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Like, let's just leave the responsibilities of gun violence prevention up to Baltimore's bad policies and ideas to manipulate the statistics, to line the pockets of felons who are running interference for evil criminals.

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It's like the auditor looks the other way when a 25-year-old, a 26-year-old is being listed as you.

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And it's not fair, it's revolting that you all are adding another layer of like oversight because the council refuses to have proper oversight because you fear the bad policy that you're financing is gonna come back to bite you.

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So you're gonna leave it up to another watchdog agency.

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I think we really need to call out this city auditor who's just capitulating their responsibilities to the human services department who has absolutely no business run interference for criminals.

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We have a homeless crisis of innocence being victimized, and the human support human services department who volunteered to be the most racist department in this city is literally using millions of dollars to run interference for black and brown drug pushers because you all listed them as the most vulnerable, like them to be prioritized for housing and services first.

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Let's just pay the gun clean criminals to move elsewhere.

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Let's just pay the criminals the free rent in food so they don't rob somebody for a little while.

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You all should be kicked out because you all are still running the pockets of the Black Lives Matter and the George Wood protesters who showed up at City Hall a few years ago and shook down the council and shifted the paradigm away from improving the war on drugs, causing a continued implosion.

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You all shifted what you mr.

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I will say you always say black and brown people are drug pushers.

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And so I know I don't really respond to everyone's comment, but I think we're more than that.

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All right.

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So, anyways, thank you, Mr.

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Haynes.

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Uh public comment period is now closed.

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And uh will the clerk please read uh thank everyone for their comments and for coming down, and for Seattle folks and people online.

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Um, really appreciate you taking your time uh out of your day, uh, whether you left work or um you know took off any of those things uh to come down to give public comment.

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All right, so thank you.

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Uh will the clerk please read item number one into the record.

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Agenda item one, appointment 3542, appointment of Zahoer Ahmed to the Washington State Convention Center, public facilities district board for a term to July 30th, 2030 for briefing, discussion, and possible vote.

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Awesome.

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We are super excited about our appointment.

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Thank you.

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Good to see you.

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Welcome.

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Um please present yourself and of course she's Jen.

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Okay, nice.

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And you can jump right into it.

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Good morning.

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Thank you so much.

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Jen Lemaster, President CEO of Seattle Convention Center.

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Good morning, and thank you all for the opportunity to speak in support of Zahora's appointment to our board.

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Before I make comments about Zahor, I want to just begin by acknowledging our outgoing board member who is a city appointee, Mr.

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Bob Flowers, who has served us for 22 years, um, and the public with distinction.

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Uh he brought Bob brought deep financial expertise, steady judgment, and a real passion for meetings and events, especially for the economic impact they create.

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Uh his service has helped strengthen the convention center as both a public asset and an economic engine, and we are very grateful for his commitment and leadership.

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As we look to the next chapter, Zahor is an excellent appointment to continue that tradition of strong financial stewardship and industry expertise.

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Zahor brings decades of experience in hospitality, finance, hotel operations, asset management, and is a downtown leader.

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As a CFO and vice president of R.C.

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Hadreen Company, he has been directly involved in some of the most important assets in Seattle, including the Hyatt Regency, which is the largest hotel in the Pacific Northwest with 1260 rooms and a hundred thousand square feet of meeting space.

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Zahor's experience is highly relevant to convention center's work.

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He understands construction finance, long-term debt, permanent financing, banking relationships, internal controls, sales performance, operations, and the broader tourism economy.

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Just as important Zahor understands the ecosystem around the convention center.

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He has served in leadership roles, including board chair with Visit Seattle, the Downtown Seattle Association, the Wasp Washington Hospitality Association, and the hospitality finance and technology professionals.

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All this means he understands how meetings and events connect to hotel performance, restaurant activities, small businesses, downtown vitality, tax generation, and the overall competitiveness of our destination.

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This is a public board responsible for stewarding a major civic and economic asset.

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And Zahor brings the financial discipline, governance experience, and industry knowledge, and not to mention a love for Seattle that will serve this mission well.

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I am grateful for his willingness to serve, and I strongly support his appointment to our board.

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Awesome.

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Welcome, Zahar.

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Would you like to give some comments?

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No, anyway I just wanted to take a couple of things.

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Um I think my resume, you everybody has that, so I don't need to reiterate any of that.

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But I think uh working with Dick Hadrin in Seattle for the past uh 27 years and bring his enterprising skill to to the boards that I have served at DSA.

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Um visit Seattle past chair and Washington Hospitality Association past chair and a current board member for all of those.

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I think that serves me well.

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And I think biggest thing that I think about right now is the convention center's um overall viability in the future.

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We have had spent over two billion dollars in the construction of this convention center, and the bonds do expire and they do come up for renewal.

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And what serves the bonds is the occupancies in the hotels and the tax we collect from it.

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So I understand from part of the hospitality industry for about 40 years as to how important that is to grow that segment of Seattle business strongly.

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We should not be a discount city, which is what we are viewed at right now.

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We need to be a prominent city in trying to establish good rates, good occupancies, good jobs for our people.

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So I think those are all good things, and I think I bring a lot of experience in all those areas to serve on the board.

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So thank you for considering.

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Awesome.

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Thank you, Zahar.

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I know we've had a chance to meet in your resume.

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The only thing I will say um is uh that you went to UNLV.

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And so you I'm no, I'm just fine.

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You're a rebel.

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Um, anyways, uh, I'm just fine.

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Uh colleagues, are there any uh comments, Councilmember Strauss?

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Yeah, thank you.

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Thank you for being here.

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Thank you for your volunteer service.

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And you have seen some transformation downtown with the new convention center with the overlook walk with the new waterfront and even the entryway into Pioneer Square.

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We've we see Occidental and Pioneer Square operating differently now after the waterfront has made that last two block connection in w inland.

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What's your vision?

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Where do we go from from here?

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What I mean, these are big civic projects that we've completed.

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We have a different feel downtown today than when we did in 2019.

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Where are we going from here?

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I think uh we have the basics, right?

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So we have the basics and more in Seattle right now.

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With the convention center.

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Uh I was part of the public uh facilities district, but it was created with Frank Vener and and the folks uh first thought about how the convention center should should function.

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And the idea was to grow that business tremendously.

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To grow that business almost double the convention citywide convention business.

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And we are not there yet.

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I think that's where I'm I'm on the board of visits Seattle as well, so there is a push from us, the hoteliers, to increase that segment of citywide and create all kinds of fundings that's necessary to make sure we are competitive in the business convention world in the United States.

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We don't want Chicago and Phoenix and San Francisco to eat over lunch.

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We want this to be the prominent convention space for especially the technology and for medical and bioscience, those are the areas very important to Seattle.

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And we want those those folks to come over here to meet and grow and you know, leave their money here.

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So that's the big part of it.

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And I think one of the things is I mean, if you look at Seattle, retail and restaurant and bar activities, all of them are subdued and dim, I think.

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And they are not their potential.

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And that's all gonna come back.

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When you have visitors in the city, it just lifts all the ships and it's gonna bring the business environment up, and we need to help everybody.

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So that's the vision.

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So just bring more business to Seattle.

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Wonderful.

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I thought you were gonna say lit I5 so that we can connect the convention center up to Capitol Hill.

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And I say that seriously because we have the Revive I5 project that is partially stalled, so we're taking care of the Ship Canal Bridge, but Washdot did stall the other work.

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And this is our once in 50 year opportunity to use the private public partnership to reconnect Capitol Hill with downtown and right there at the convention center.

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If there was a public square connecting up to Melrose Market, that would be much more attractive than the uh a cross over the freeway.

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And I say this because Washington, DC was able to lid 395 with zero public dollars and actually created a lot of privatized space.

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They used all private funding and it created that civic space while also, and this is my other kicker for downtown, is I'm always pushing for more residential because we've seen with office space it it's not utilized and it creates a hole in our community.

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What are your thoughts there?

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No, I think I I have been to several lid I5 meetings and I've I was part of that uh effort as well.

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But uh I think it's a fantastic idea to live Lit I5.

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I think that's a connector connector between the North and uh the East and the West.

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And I think it's also creates that green space in the middle of the city that will be just like you talk about Central Park and all those things.

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It can it can be housing, it could be retail, it could be a park.

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So it's all of that stuff.

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I think as as an amenity for Seattle, as an improvement to the city, that is fantastic idea.

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As a convention business, you know, I I think about it in the terms of what attracts the convention business and what brings the people to Seattle.

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I mean, that'll be a part of it, but I think we just need to be more aggressive in as to how we are approaching that world.

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But I think Lib I5 is wonderful, and I think I'm our office is part of that that effort as well.

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Wonderful.

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I can't miss an opportunity to bring it up because if if Washdot doesn't take these public-private partnerships into consideration right, like really right now, we're gonna miss that opportunity, and it's gonna have to be all publicly funded, which becomes much more difficult and less vibrant to be kind of frank.

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I think with the convention center's location where it is, that just makes sense definitely not more.

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Well, thanks for listening to my today's public service announcement.

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Noted.

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Thank you, Councilmember Strauss.

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Councilmember Kettle.

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Thank you, Chair.

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Um, and thank you, uh Mr.

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Ahmed for volunteering for you know contributing uh to this, you know, the public discussion and and the work that the convention center does.

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And also thank you to Ms.

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Lemaster as well for all the work that you've done.

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Obviously, uh many meetings uh that we've come together and spoke on the issues related to convention center, the area, public safety, all the above.

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Um Councilmember Strauss talk about a little bit longer term, median longer term.

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I just wanted to ask, and I bring this up because I had a discussion yesterday with Inspire um Washington and I had a meeting with the mayor yesterday afternoon, and I said, you know, normally you know, after a big event, a big exercise, a big operation, we have a um lessons learned event or you know, or an after-action report.

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And we just had a you know situation, yes, uh United States lost in the round of 16 in the World Cup.

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Um, but America won, and Seattle definitely won um in terms of the World Cup, uh FIFA World Cup.

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And I bring this up because there's so much momentum with uh FIFA World Cup that was built up.

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And it's like, as I say oftentimes, nothing builds momentum like momentum.

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So how do we continue this momentum momentum?

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And this plays into the hospitality association, the uh hotels, the restaurants, the convention.

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And I bring it up because the natural piece, as you see with ESPN, or even now locally with one roof, it's sports and entertainment.

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And entertainment oftentimes is arts and culture.

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So, how can we take this momentum as a city and continue it and leverage our entertainment side of things?

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Yeah, leverage the arts and culture.

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And this goes out to all the stakeholders in the city, particularly in the greater downtown area.

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It's like, how can we take the lessons learned from what's happened over the last month and basically two years, but particularly over the last month plus with the FIFA World Cup, and how do we take those lessons learned and then apply it to another area where we can keep the momentum going, which would be good for the hotels, good for the restaurants, and in turn um good for the convention center and the and the overall ecosystem.

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Uh oftentimes I talk about public safety.

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I'll skip it this time, and instead say, hey, how can we you know do this?

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And and this is something I brought up with Inspire Washington, and I think the arts and culture, aka the entertainment, sports entertainment would be a great way to do that.

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And um, so this is more of a near term, and I'm kind of saying this out loud because I recognize the convention center is a little bit tangent, but it really goes to how do we keep the momentum going.

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And this is again part of my conversations yesterday with Inspire Washington, but also the mayor.

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Um any thoughts?

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Any uh any reaction?

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Or from Ms.

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Lamaster, too.

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No, I think uh Jen can probably speak on that, but my perspective on that would be I think we we did get a tremendous amount of exposure to millions, if not close to a billions of people uh with this world cup, especially the uh the last game.

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Um and I think we need to keep that momentum going.

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We need to make sure that we are uh issuing or just reissuing all those write-ups that we have had from different uh um news sources and uh Business Seattle has spent a lot of money, by the way, just um in this World Cup uh marketing effort.

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So they added they added double their funding.

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They had 300,000 and they asked for 300 more, so they've spent about close to 600,000 in the spending and marketing.

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I think we got exposure worth hundreds of millions of dollars for that.

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So that was a good thing, and then they need to keep that going.

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And they need to get people coming to Seattle.

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And uh I just think that uh Seattle shone like a star throughout the whole event, and people saw what it's like.

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And um, and it's not only Seattle, I think the whole United States, the perception that people are going home where they're saying that America is a great country to come and visit.

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So I think that was a very, very positive thing for Seattle for the United States.

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Um I don't know, Jen, you may want to add a couple of more things to it, but uh I think it's it's a great momentum for Seattle.

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Yeah, I I couldn't agree more, and thank you, Commissioner Kettle, for the question and the opportunity to uh make a few comments about how well the city performed in terms of cleanliness and public safety over the last three weeks.

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As I was um out in the community, I heard many comments uh from locals talking about how great downtown looked, and we have to number one keep up the momentum on clean and safe and the way that our streets look because we not we didn't just invite the world to our downtown, but we invited many of our locals and our regional citizens back to downtown, some of them for the first time.

26:49

So our immediate term work uh to answer your question directly is gonna be you're gonna see continued investments in the public realm from the convention center.

26:58

We have what we believe is the best convention center in North America, probably the world, uh, but we need our streets to be as exciting and dynamic and vibrant as our convention center is.

27:08

So from us, you'll continue to see us investing in public spaces so that we can deliver on the vision that Commissioner Strauss mentioned, which is being a civic asset as well as an economic asset to our community and our neighbors.

27:25

Okay, well, thank you both Mr.

27:27

Amand and Ms.

27:28

Limbaster, and uh let's keep the momentum going.

27:30

Thank you, Chair.

27:31

Thank you.

27:32

Thank you.

27:33

Awesome.

27:34

I don't see any other questions.

27:35

Just really appreciate your service and looking forward.

27:38

I have to double down on one council member Strauss said is that connectivity from downtown to Capitol Hill is incredibly important because since the reserve left uh Starbucks, that area, we've lost push track traffic up into the hill, about 50 percent in that area off Melrose.

27:53

So we're always looking at ways to bring more people into the district and the community, and I know that the convention center will be a part of that too as well, and with your help as well.

28:02

So looking forward to it.

28:03

Okay, so we're gonna move we're gonna are there any closing words.

28:08

Okay, how much you like the reserve and would like it back?

28:10

No, okay.

28:11

Um I move that committee recommends confirmation of appointment three five four two.

28:17

Are there uh is there a second?

28:19

Thank you.

28:20

It's been moved and second to confirm the appointment.

28:22

Are there any other final comments on the appointee?

28:25

Seeing none, will the clerk please call the roll on the confirmation of the appointment?

28:30

Councilmember Kettle.

28:33

Councilmember Rivera I.

28:39

Councilmember Strauss.

28:40

I Chair Alingsworth.

28:43

Yes, four in favor, not opposed.

28:45

Motion carries the committee recommendation confirmation.

28:47

Uh will appointment will be sent to the July 14th City Council meeting.

28:51

Thank you so much.

28:52

Really appreciate your time.

28:53

Thank you very much.

28:54

Thank you.

28:55

Awesome.

28:55

Thank you.

28:56

All right.

28:57

We have item number two.

28:59

I will read it to the record while our clerk gets the next presenter set up.

29:05

So agenda item number two, it's item number two nine one nine audit recommendation updates for briefing and discussion.

29:13

And I want to thank the auditors, city auditors office for coming, team and sending giving us updates and always appreciate the data and looking forward looking forward to hearing the presentation.

29:26

Thank you.

29:31

Council President, shall we do just quick introductions before we begin?

29:34

Yeah, just do introductions and we can jump in.

29:36

Uh Arushi Thakerlow, Acting City Auditor.

29:38

Sarah Land, uh, interim audit manager.

29:44

Claudia Gross Schader, Director of Research and Evaluation.

29:48

Awesome, welcome.

29:49

And for the record, we have uh Council Member Rivera in person now.

29:52

So thank you.

30:00

Or scroll.

30:01

Okay.

30:02

Thank you so much.

30:04

Just want to make sure.

30:06

Good morning, Council President, Council members.

30:09

Thank you so much for having us this morning to give our annual update on audit recommendations.

30:14

We have some prepared remarks, and then we are happy to take your questions both during or after the presentation.

30:20

So as you are probably aware, every year we release a report that summarizes the status of all open recommendations.

30:27

This year we released our report back in May that looked at work on those recommendations through December 31st, 2025.

30:35

We've been issuing this follow-up report annually since 2009, and this is really part of our value added to the city.

30:43

You know, not only are we conducting audits to identify how things can be improved, but we're also continuing to follow up with departments year after year to see those improvements actually be implemented, or or if they may not get implemented, why, since circumstances may change.

31:14

So today, at a high level, we are uh my team will share updates on recommendations that were implemented in 2025.

31:23

Thank you, Sarah, um, as well as recommendations that remain pending, but either we saw some key progress on them or they are very timely issues important to the public.

31:32

Um, and we will also share some information about our public recommendation dashboard.

31:39

Go slowly this time.

31:41

So our office has made nearly 1,000 audit recommendations since 2007.

31:46

Uh we are a small but mighty team.

31:48

Um, some of our peers from the City of San Diego audit office actually recently did a benchmark of how audit functions in major cities across the U.S.

31:56

are resourced, and they came up with an average investment of across 15 cities of about a dollar thirteen per 1,000 dollars of city budget.

32:04

Um now for Seattle, our funding is at about 56 cents per thousand dollars, and that includes both our office and the Seattle Office of Inspector General for Public Safety as they audit SPD.

32:14

Um we're getting a lot done with the resources that we have, and we're really proud to have an implementation rate of 72 percent.

32:22

I think this number reflects the thought that we put into our recommendations, uh, that they are targeted solutions, they are actionable, and that departments trust our expertise.

32:33

Now, in 2025, here was our progress.

32:36

We tracked 94 open recommendations, including 20 that were made during the calendar year 2025, and we found that 10 had been implemented with 84 remaining pending.

32:45

At the end of the year, we will again follow up on these 84 recommendations.

32:49

Um I'll hand it off to Sarah to discuss those implemented recommendations.

32:54

Great.

32:56

Thanks so much, Arushi.

32:57

Um, so yeah, we want to start with some good news of the highlights here of the 10 recommendations that were implemented in 2025.

33:05

And so uh we want to take a moment and recognize those successes.

33:09

Um, the first one here is the rental registration and inspection ordinance audit, and that was published in December 2023 in order to address uh a reduction that was noticed in rental registrations.

33:22

And some of the highlights this year, um, the Department of Construction and Inspections was able to have uh short-term rental licensing and the uh rental registration data to be able to be shared across departments to help with compliance, and the city council also adopted ordinance number 127376, which made regulatory changes to neighborhood residential zones and also passed the Rio program fees, uh new fees in the 2026 budget.

33:51

And three recommendations remain pending from that audit.

33:56

And then we have the Seattle Public Utilities Residential Solid Waste Billing Controls Audit.

34:02

This was a pretty technical audit, but in short, it was to ensure that the city's residential solid waste billings are accurate, timely, complete, and authorized.

34:10

SPU has been plugging away at these recommendations steadily and implemented two in 2025, including aligning job aids, and they are currently conducting the risk assessment that was requested in the audit.

34:24

And then finally, I have a couple more.

34:28

Um, the surveillance technology annual review, although it was published late in 2025, SDOT was able to complete uh two of the recommendations with six remaining.

34:38

And then in um the Seattle Department of Human Resources also implemented one additional recommendation.

34:45

And I just wanted to note one correction that for the workforce equity audit, two have been implemented.

34:51

One was closed and one remains pending.

34:54

And now I'll turn it over to my colleague Melissa to talk about uh updates on the remaining recommendations.

35:01

Thank you, Sarah.

35:03

So I'm going to share progress on two audits.

35:05

First is our audit on park restrooms, which was requested by the park district board.

35:10

You'll see on the slide that none of the six recommendations are implemented, but this is not surprising because the audit was just about a year old at the time of our follow-up.

35:21

In this audit, we found that parks needed to do a better job of keeping to a realistic cleaning schedule and having more consistency across the city.

35:36

So last year, PARCS piloted new cleaning standards, a monitoring program, and hired more temporary and regular staff.

35:44

Parks said they are going to take lessons that they learned from that pilot and then refine their approach this year for restroom cleaning.

36:00

So overall, progress is being made, but to close out these recommendations, we really want to see a longer period of consistent outcomes where the public can better rely on park restrooms meeting their expectations.

36:16

For the next audit that I'm going to talk about is on construction permitting, which was requested by Councilmember Strauss.

36:23

None of these recommendations have been implemented either.

36:27

Since this audit is almost three years old, ideally we would have liked to have seen some of these recommendations implemented by now.

36:35

However, I will say some of these recommendations are big multi-part, multi-department recommendations that do take time to fully implement.

36:44

And we don't close out recommendations until they are fully done.

37:11

Also requested by Councilmember Strauss and found that the permitting recommendations are also going to help improve the inspections process, particularly around department coordination.

37:22

So even more incentive to get these permitting recommendations implemented.

37:27

So you'll see on the slide here some of the progress from 2025.

37:31

But one update that I want to highlight, which actually just happened a couple months ago, is that SDCI created a construction permit timeline visual for the public to see how their permit application is moving through the process and who with the city is working on it.

37:48

So it looks like a neat tool.

37:50

We expect to see even more progress this year in 2026, so we can start marking some of these recommendations as implemented during our next follow-up.

37:59

I'll turn it over to Claudia.

38:02

Thank you.

38:03

I have just a few minutes to describe the status of recommendations for three audits related to public health and public safety issues in Seattle.

38:14

These are complex issues.

38:16

So I would like to begin by sharing with you that Mayor's Mayor Wilson's office has offered that they would be willing to join our office for a separate presentation on these three audits for the council sometime later this summer, if that is of interest to you.

38:33

Today I'll report that there were no recommendations from these three audits that were fully implemented during this reporting period.

38:42

However, work is being done and there are updates to share.

39:09

Also, the council public safety committee has been working on clarifying the role and the legislation for the care department, which is related to another recommendation for our 2025 gun violence audit.

39:22

And in addition, Mayor Wilson's office reported that they are working to develop a comprehensive strategy to address gun violence in Seattle.

39:34

And just last week, related to our audit on overdoses and crime concentration.

39:40

Um last week, the Seattle Police Department submitted a grant application in collaboration with our office, Mayor Wilson's office, and community partner agencies, including Plymouth Housing, the YWCA, and Recovery Cafe.

40:00

If selected, this grant would bring $3 million over five years to implement evidence-based strategies to address overdose and crime concentrations in the two-block area of Belltown that was featured in our 2024 audit on overdose and crime concentrations.

40:21

Next slide.

40:23

And the police department reported that they have rebooted their retail theft program, so they have updates on this audit to share as well.

40:34

Now, our office has been auditing complex public safety and public health topics for over a dozen years.

40:44

And we've observed that one of the barriers to implementing our recommendations has been the significant turnover in city leadership.

40:53

Next slide.

41:00

As a city government, we may not be able to control organizational turnover, but we can put in place systems and structures that can help keep the city focused on delivering programs that are proven effective, even when there is organizational change.

41:25

In our audit on organized retail crime and our audit on places where overdoses and crime are concentrated, we recommended that the city should systematically address those places using an evidence-based problem-solving framework.

41:40

In the case of those two audits, we recommended the strategic prevention framework, which is an evidence-based framework developed by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration.

41:52

In our gun violence audit, we recommended that the city should use an evidence-based framework for problem solving and communication regarding gun violence.

42:02

The framework pictured here, it's called the Violence Reduction Councils, and it is supported by evidence that is proven effective in other jurisdictions.

42:13

Johns Hopkins University offered the city free technical assistance funded by Bloomberg to help us learn about and implement that framework in 2025.

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That offer runs out in September of 2026.

42:29

As we continue to follow up on our audit recommendations, we'll be looking to see how the city implements systems and structures that prioritize and sustain programs that are proven effective for improving public safety and health.

42:45

And with that, I'll turn it over to Arushi.

42:47

Thank you, Claudia.

42:50

So while this presentation and our report covered only a portion of these recommendations, the status of all recommendations that we followed up on, um it's available at our public dashboard.

43:01

Uh the link is here at the QR code as well as through our website.

43:05

Uh, for more detailed progress updates on individual recommendations, including barriers to implementation resources.

43:12

We would recommend asking the departments directly as they are the ones doing the work.

43:18

But uh for today, we are happy to try to do our best to answer any questions you may have.

43:22

Thank you.

43:23

Awesome.

43:24

Thank you for that presentation and those recommendations.

43:27

I know we have some council members that have some questions, so I'll turn to them first before I have some comments.

43:31

Councilmember Rivera.

43:32

Thank you, Council President, and thank you all for being here today.

43:37

You are one of our greatest assets, and I really appreciate you.

43:40

And um, your website is great.

43:42

I've been on it, was just on it again yesterday to look at um past audits and uh it's very helpful.

43:51

And I will say thank you for bringing up the um uh gun violence symposium uh that I uh uh put together.

44:01

Um I looked at your audit when I was putting that together, and you talked about the national network in your audit, which led me to conversations with David Kennedy, who's the leading expert, as you pointed out in the audit, and as I have come to find out.

44:18

Um and um it was his organization, the National Network for Safe Communities that actually put on the symposium.

44:26

Um I worked with them because something you noted in here was um in your four recommendations to better understand gun violence audit from March of last of 2025, is that the city of Baltimore um had made great in Indianapolis had made great strides um dealing with gun uh violence and I have lived in Washington DC for many years and visited Baltimore for many years.

44:55

I know how bad the situation there was.

45:00

So I was very compelled with the strategy which you delineated in the audit that is uh David Kennedy's strategy when I was um thinking about as you know dump it outside as you know about your on you're off council member kettle.

45:18

Go ahead.

45:18

That's okay.

45:19

And um when I was, you know, you all know as I've been saying that I I ran for office because I of gun safety issues and particularly um uh uh kid getting shot in my kids' school.

45:34

Um and since then I've been thinking about ways to to help this city in the gun violence with the gun violence efforts.

45:41

And I uh I'm I I'm being a little long-winded apologies, but I just want to say how um impactful and meaningful this audit was to the subsequent work that I've been engaged in with the national network um to bring that effort, it is my hope, here to Seattle.

46:01

And when we did this impossium, it was really important to me that we heard from folks from Baltimore.

46:07

So I specifically requested the network.

46:10

Can you please bring folks from Baltimore and also Philly, because Philly's seen some great um uh uh uh strides in their gun um violence um situation.

46:24

Um, and and when I say great strides, it's 40 to 60 percent reduction in gun violence in those cities.

46:32

Boston, Baltimore, Philly, um, uh South Bend, Indiana, uh, all working with the national network to implement their effort.

46:42

Um, and you know, you started it by by putting together and leading me to this audit.

46:49

So I really want to thank you for that.

46:51

And I want to say the work that you do doesn't go unheard or unnoticed or unappreciated.

46:57

Um we're doing work in response to your audits, and that is really important.

47:03

Uh and colleagues, in terms of the symposium, I'm working on a resolution because I really do want to bring that effort here, and I hope that we can all work together.

47:13

The one thing about that effort and gun violence, as is delineated in the audit, and what we know is we all have to work together and be on the same page.

47:23

That is how those efforts worked in those other cities, and that's what we have to do here.

47:27

So, more to come about my uh more to and thank you for joining the symposium and being there, um Claudia, and more to come on the resolution to try to make that effort a reality here in Seattle.

47:40

Also should say I've been working with the mayor's office as well.

47:44

Um, they were at the symposium, they partnered um at where I'm just very appreciative for uh council member Kettle's support as chair of the public safety committee that now I sit on.

47:56

Um I'm grateful to sit on, and also um grateful for the mayor for their support um in the symposium and all the folks that came from the King County prosecutor to the city attorney um to SPD to the Human Services Department, to deal, um, all the folks and community members that came to participate and hear about this effort, and it was really great to hear from these other cities.

48:22

So thank you.

48:22

Thank you, Council President.

48:24

Um appreciate you letting me uh give a little background on how important this particular audit was uh to me uh and to the work that I'm trying to do and help us all do together uh to deal with gun safety in this city so we can help um save lives and reduce.

48:42

I'd love to reduce our gun violence by the numbers that um these other cities have.

48:48

So awesome.

48:48

Thank you, Council President.

48:49

Appreciate you.

48:50

Thank you, Councilmember Rivera.

48:51

Well said.

48:52

I don't know who is next, but Councilmember Strauss, and then we'll go to Councilmember Kettle.

48:55

Uh thank you, Chair.

48:56

If we could tick back to slide 10.

48:59

I don't think it's anyone's surprise.

49:00

I'm coming back to the permitting audit in similar forms and functions as this slide about the changes in public safety leadership have occurred.

49:08

The same changes have occurred in just the last few years with SDCI and many of the other partners.

49:14

So just as we start talking about this permit audits, uh as our auditors mentioned, there are many different organizations and departments that have to sign off on permitting from fire to SPU to SDOT to and SDCI does hold most of them, but then there one of the reasons why I asked for the certificate of occupation audit as well, is because King County Public Health is also involved, uh technically Seattle King County Public Health, but they seem to not be as responsive as to our audits and our and our asks as some of our city departments who do work under our city's umbrella.

49:56

So I just number one want to appreciate the auditors who uh Melissa for your continued work on this.

50:02

Uh but this is unacceptable.

50:05

Um, and not for the auditors for these implement these recommendations not being implemented.

50:12

I know that Brooke Bellman was taking this very seriously in a way that uh you know goes back to if I don't know if anyone was watching Seattle Channel in 2021, but it was at the point where I was drawing the PowerPoint slides because uh some folks hadn't gotten permission to present in the committee, and as we were digging in to find out more information about why permits were taking so long to uh to be able to be pulled.

50:40

Um so this has been a long, a long time coming, but with Brooke and now with Sam, I'm seeing some seriousness being taken with meeting the recommendations of the audit.

50:50

I talked to Director Steele yesterday, sharing some of my frustrations about the situation that which we are in and the fact that this slide is here before us today.

51:00

And so with that, uh chair, I would I would one of the other aspects that's also occurred is we've had the land use chair turnover a number of times since I was the land use chair just a few years ago, and as well as the land use committee has been full of comprehensive plan and many other uh meaty topics.

51:20

And so, Chair, I th I would I would ask that we have the auditor return to your committee with the appropriate departments and present when in the past when the recommendations have been presented, it has only been SDCI at the table, but I think that it is important that we call everyone from Seattle King County Public Health to every other permitting entity within our city of Seattle.

51:46

One of the there are a number of really important recommendations from ensuring that our permit reviewers are trained and held to ethical standards to attending to um timeliness.

52:02

I know that one of the audit one of the I think one of the most striking things was that there were copy and paste.

52:09

We will these are not the full uh corrections that we're gonna provide you, but and so you should expect more.

52:16

That for me, that's not customer service.

52:18

I know that there are businesses on the waterfront adjacent to the ferry terminal that were not able to open by World Cup right now.

52:33

That left a hole in the waterfront when we just had a conversation about this was our chance to remake our city's vision in the in the the international, national, and regional levels.

52:48

These have real implications, and so I think it would be important if we are able to bring all of these entities back because this needs to be taken seriously as Melissa mentioned three years ago, and I've been following up, but we need a little bit more juice because folks aren't standing to attention at the moment.

53:08

Um, and I would love to see what progress has been made because in my conversation with Director Steele yesterday, it sounds like there is work being done.

53:16

I know that uh under Brooke Bellman Dan Nelson was assigned to do this work, and that was the first time that there was a person strictly assigned to complete this work.

53:26

So I think that while they might not have um implemented, I think that they are close on a number of them, and it would be important to share that story, but at the same time holding everyone to account because we literally have a hole in the waterfront and we missed an opportunity to show Seattle who we really are because our permitting isn't set up correctly.

53:48

That's a self-created harm here.

53:51

Um and so you know, I was pretty uh distraught when Brooke had to leave suddenly.

53:58

Um, but I am reassured through my conversation with Sam yesterday.

54:02

But I think this deserves a lot more attention.

54:05

Uh I'll I'll save my other comments for uh slide um 14 about the public safety audit themes after councilmember Kettle shares his remarks.

54:15

But it's a similar thing that I would probably say is we we may want the the on the slides that says the mayor's office is willing to present to council jointly.

54:23

I think that might be a good idea.

54:25

Thank you, Chair.

54:26

Awesome.

54:26

Thank you, Count Oh.

54:28

May I ask, did I miss anything or did I get anything incorrect, or is there anything that you would like to add?

54:33

You nailed it.

54:34

All right, thank you.

54:34

Sorry, Chair.

54:36

Thank you, Councilmember Strauss.

54:37

Uh, Councilmember Kettle.

54:42

All right, good morning.

54:43

Uh the auditor team.

54:45

Uh I really appreciate you being here and given this presentation.

54:48

And you know, there's some themes here.

54:50

Um as you know, we have our strategic framework plan for a safer Seattle, and we've been working the ordinances and so forth.

55:00

And recently with Little Saigon and North Aurora and so forth, I've noted that you know, I don't really have a lot of confidence in you know making positive change long term, and we can always do short term but long term because we're a city of two minds.

55:15

We never take the action.

55:17

And in that press conference on North Aurora, I noted that, you know, and then part of the things is we needed to increase SPD staffing.

55:25

We need to have the technology program up and running.

55:29

Which is now in the stadium area, been turned off.

55:32

Um, but one of the points I also made was the implementation of ordinances, the implementation of laws.

55:38

And so there's this there's a parallel here in terms of the implementation of the audit recommendations.

55:45

And part of it goes to that great slide eleven, uh, but it also goes to the I the point that we are a city of two minds, and uh for every action there's a reaction, and they tend to cancel each other out.

55:58

And it's frustrating because here we are in a chronic situation that doesn't have to be chronic.

56:03

Um and so you know to Councilmember Strauss's point, maybe a governance and public safety joint committee meeting, or maybe working with uh chair to have you come to the public safety committee at some point um just to raise these pieces because for example, the gun violence is very important, and I thank Councilmember Rivera for all her great work on a symposium working with David Kennedy's group and all those pieces.

56:29

And it's super important.

56:31

Um I went I went through the uh the audit report myself uh and review has been part of that and some of the other work we're doing to include adding a pillar to that strategic framework plan regarding gun violence intervention, prevention, and community safety, and the other point too about addressing the scene between public safety and human services, for example.

56:50

And uh, but bottom line is we have to do better.

56:54

And what you're experiencing, it's not unlike what I'm experiencing as chair of public safety, and it's unfortunate.

57:00

And the uh and slide eleven is just it's almost an indictment on the city.

57:06

Um, and it's unfortunate, and uh you know, leadership management 101 uh dictates that that kind of turnover is not good.

57:14

And so I just wanted to thank you for um coming forward and um and making the presentation.

57:21

And by the way, I also support the other areas too.

57:23

I don't want to, you know, in terms of SDCI and so forth, the points that were made.

57:27

But the public safety piece just illustrates so clearly uh some of these endemic issues that we have as as a city, and and the sad thing is it doesn't have to be, but here we are.

57:38

So uh thank you, Chair.

57:39

Thank you to the auditor team.

57:42

And thank you to Councilmember Vera for also, as I noted, because it it's uh as my father used to say, many hands make light work.

57:48

We have to have a comprehensive approach and have my colleagues work in these different areas and the work that she did for that symposium, um, really elevated a discussion, and it's going to be folded in as what we do as a committee and as a council.

58:01

So thank you.

58:04

Thank you, Councilmember Kettle.

58:05

Council Member Rivera, is that a new hand?

58:07

Yes, Councilmember Rivera.

58:08

Thank you.

58:08

Thank you, Councilmember Kettle, for your remarks plus one.

58:12

Um, I you know, I also want to say um, you know, the audits are helpful as we're doing our work.

58:20

I noted a lot of it is um mayor's office because they're operationalize and implement the the laws and and and the recommendations, but we care so much about these these things that we too get involved in trying to help implement some of this work.

58:36

Um, and so I appreciate you bringing up the symposium um because I noted no no recommendations, I mean nothing um was implemented from the great recommendations that you made.

58:48

Um, and in my my attempt is to get us together to start working on these recommendations.

58:54

So um, you know, it is to say that you've made recommendations with in these reports, isn't just a report to tell us how we're doing or how you know um and we really need to take those recommendations seriously.

59:08

So, and that is what I'm trying to do as we are grappling with this issue.

59:13

So, really want to underscore um that uh, you know, this is not just me wanting to do something about gun violence in this way, is that um these ideas are coming from your actual recommendations that you're getting from the experts.

59:30

Um, and that is really important because I think sometimes we try to tackle an issue and we don't look at the recommendations from from your office.

59:39

Um, that you're doing the research and the background, and these audits take a really long time.

59:45

So um it it is not something that you're just putting on paper lightly.

59:50

You you are really working across the country to look at best practices, um, the best way uh uh that to implement change to for the better for our city.

1:00:03

Um, and so when you issue these recommendations, I take them really seriously because I know you've done the homework, you've done your work, you've done your due diligence.

1:00:12

Dare I say it, council council president, they've done revere due diligence.

1:00:17

Um I'm kidding.

1:00:19

But you know how um I get in the weeds with things, and I appreciate that you do too.

1:00:23

I know I was trying to bring a little level levity, but I'm not as good as jokes as council president is um uh with jokes.

1:00:32

Um anyway, really wanted to underscore that you know the recommendations that you're making in all of these audits, and very importantly in the public safety ones and not just the gun safety ones, the other two are really important, and we need to take action to implement these recommendations.

1:00:51

And that was my attempt in doing the symposium was to operational help operationalize the gun uh the gun safety audit with your great recommendations.

1:01:04

And I I just didn't want to leave it unsaid that these are your recommendations.

1:01:10

It wasn't just that I read your report and thought of something, is that you actually recommended these things.

1:01:15

So want to give credit where credit is due.

1:01:18

Um thank you, Council President.

1:01:20

Awesome.

1:01:20

Thank you, Councilmember Rivera.

1:01:22

No, your jokes are just fine.

1:01:24

So thank you.

1:01:25

Um there any other uh comments, Councilmember Strauss.

1:01:28

Did you want to go back to a slide?

1:01:30

No, okay, awesome.

1:01:31

Thank you.

1:01:32

We'll we'll thank you all uh for obviously for your presentation and you know the recommendations and analy and auditing those, analyzing those if they have been implemented or not.

1:01:43

It really helps us understand where we are and then where we can kind of push on things for growth edges for different departments or getting things done.

1:01:51

So really appreciate it.

1:01:52

Uh any time the the auditor's office might be small, but you're mighty, and you have a really big impact on the city.

1:01:58

So thank you so much.

1:01:59

Any closing words?

1:02:00

No, we appreciate your time.

1:02:02

Awesome.

1:02:02

Thank you.

1:02:03

Thank you.

1:02:04

Okay, we're gonna transition and jump right in to let's see, item number three, and I will read item number three into the record where our clerk is helping get set up.

1:02:16

Uh so it's CB 12122, an ordinance relating to the utility discount program, amending the income threshold.

1:02:26

Um, and I believe we have Brian and Eric.

1:02:29

Oh, we just have Brian.

1:02:30

I don't see Eric.

1:02:31

Okay, that's okay, Brian.

1:02:32

You're the best.

1:02:33

So we have Brian.

1:02:34

Thank you for coming.

1:02:35

And um, after your presentation, I will pass it over to Councilmember Strauss, the sponsor of this bill.

1:02:42

Thank you.

1:02:44

Uh great, thank you.

1:02:46

Uh for the record, Brian, goodnight, council central staff.

1:02:49

Um, yeah, this is the second uh discussion of this bill, so I just have a few slides to walk through.

1:02:53

Um, but it can be brief.

1:02:57

Uh so first off, uh the utility discount program known as the UDP provides eligible households with a discount on their Seattle City Light and Seattle Public Utilities bills.

1:03:06

Uh the UDP is a joint program between the utilities, and it is administered in terms of enrollment and income verification by the human services department.

1:03:15

Uh as it currently stands, to be eligible for the program, household incomes must be equal to or less than 70% of state median income.

1:03:23

Uh for those customers that don't directly receive a bill from SPU, uh, which are typically customers in apartment buildings, they receive the usual 60% discount uh on their Seattle City Light bill, and then in addition, we'll receive a credit on those bills uh from SPU as well.

1:03:38

Um, as of the end of last year, there were approximately 39,000 customers enrolled in the UDP.

1:03:44

Uh during last fall's budget process, Councilmember Strauss sponsored a statement of legislative intent or a SLI, as we call them, uh, that requested SPU, City Light, and HSD to evaluate the impacts of expanding UDP eligibility.

1:03:56

Uh the departments provided a written response to the SLI in May, and then uh came to this committee's previous meeting on June 11th to present the results of their work.

1:04:07

Uh on to the bill itself, which is relatively simple.

1:04:10

The bill would modify the eligibility threshold from uh for the UDP from 70% of state meeting income to 60% of area meeting income with an effective date of April 1st of 2027.

1:04:21

Uh the departments estimate that this change would increase the number of customers that are eligible for the program by about 31,000 folks.

1:04:28

Uh and that's almost a 30% increase in eligible customers.

1:04:31

And then if current participation rates uh held for that newly eligible group, the city would see about a little under 11,000 new customers enrolled in the program.

1:04:40

Uh the bill also states the council's intent to consider legislation in 2027 to extend UDP benefits to additional households, and specifically it calls out extending benefits to those with incomes up to 70 percent of area median income in 2028 and up to 80 percent of area median income in 2029.

1:05:00

And then lastly, uh Councilmember Strauss has prepared an amendment for this bill, which is listed as amendment number one in your packets.

1:05:06

The amendment would change the effective date for the eligibility change from April 1st of 2027 to January 1st of 2027.

1:05:21

And then finally, the amendment would add a new section to the bill requesting the departments to publish an annual report on UDP participation rates and departmental efforts to increase participation.

1:05:31

The new section states that the reports should be published by April 1st of each year, and then with them beginning in 2027 and ending in 2031.

1:05:40

And that concludes my remarks.

1:05:41

Thank you, Brian.

1:05:42

Councilmember Strauss, sponsor of the bill.

1:05:44

You are recognized.

1:05:49

Utility costs are housing costs.

1:05:52

By passing this legislation, we will be reducing the amount of the amount many working families are paying for their housing by more than a thousand dollars per year, depending on their usage.

1:06:02

This legislation before us is absolutely about making life more affordable for working families and doing so quickly.

1:06:10

Right now, those making just above the minimum wage are paying the same home utility rates as the multimillionaire hedge fund manager.

1:06:18

Even the families who just lost their jobs so that C-suite executives can receive bonuses are paying the same utility rates.

1:06:27

Another round of layoffs was just announced last week.

1:06:30

So the changes before us that we're making uh ensure that our working families, our seniors on fixed incomes, the parents of the kids I grew up with who are paying more in property tax than their original mortgage, and the people and families who just need a little help making sure that they can make ends meet this month.

1:06:48

This is who this legislation is for.

1:06:51

And for too long, our thresholds have been too low using the state area median income, state median income rather than the area median income, and we haven't had the prorated step down benefits for the families who make just a dollar above that low threshold.

1:07:05

This has left families in the cold or not filling medication to keep their heat on, as one public commenter mentioned.

1:07:11

This legislation makes real the work that so many city employees have been working on for on my clock nine years and for longer on many other clocks.

1:07:22

I know Sir Roger Reddy has been working on this longer than I've worked for the city.

1:07:27

And so this legislation makes real the work that so many have been working on for nearly a decade.

1:07:34

This legislation will put money back into the pockets of working people who are struggling with the affordability of our city today and were able to do so quickly.

1:07:43

That's part of the reason that we are having an amendment to change originally.

1:07:56

And so we tied it to the implementation to that HUD announcement of the area median income and different rates.

1:08:03

And with our need to engage in some new rates for City Light and others at a higher clip than we've had in the past, but lower than our peer utilities.

1:08:24

We've also, through this amendment number one, we are requesting additional reporting.

1:08:30

And I think we may in the future discuss ways that we, if we are not necessarily meeting our eligibility, if we are not getting as many people who are eligible into the program, we may request in the future annual reporting and what is the pathway to ensuring that everyone who is eligible is able to claim these benefits because that has been really the quick win that should that we should that we are working on today, and that we I think many have hoped that we could work on a little bit faster in the past is just ensuring the everyone who's eligible is able to benefit.

1:09:08

One of the biggest challenges to our to making enrollment simple is that because we have used the state median income, it has not been tied to the same benefits that many others in our affordable housing that apply for different SNAP and other benefits here in the city.

1:09:28

Because we were using a different threshold, it made it harder to just auto-enroll and make and give a one packet of here are the benefits that you you can apply for.

1:09:38

And so changing from state to area median income also will help that eligibility increase.

1:09:45

At our first meeting last week, or at our last meeting where the first conversation about this bill came out.

1:10:00

We had a whole presentation where we were going to talk about the statement of legislative intent and before we talked about the bill, and I just shared all of my talking points for the entire bill because I was so pent up with excitement to finally get this uh in public view.

1:10:10

And so I don't need to say much more about the bill today.

1:10:13

Uh just gratitude for everyone who's worked on this, but I do know that we need to move the amendment.

1:10:18

So um chair, your discretion.

1:10:21

I'll move the amendment.

1:10:22

Yes, please please do.

1:10:24

Thank you.

1:10:24

I'll move amendment one version one to council bill one two one two two two three twos.

1:10:31

Second.

1:10:32

It's it's been moved and second to recommend a passage of the bill or excuse me to uh for amendment.

1:10:40

Wait, you just move the bill.

1:10:42

You just move the amendment.

1:10:45

I move the amendment.

1:10:46

Thank you.

1:10:46

All right, uh, council member Strauss, you will recognize.

1:10:49

Thank you.

1:10:50

Um, as I said, this just changes the implementation date from April 1st to January 1st and puts reporting requirements into the bill.

1:10:59

Awesome.

1:11:00

Thank you, Councilmember Strauss.

1:11:01

I apologize.

1:11:02

I had a script and I read the wrong line, my friend.

1:11:05

Are there any other comments about amendment number one to Council Bill 1212?

1:11:13

All right.

1:11:13

Will the uh chair will the clerk please call the roll on amendment number one?

1:11:18

Councilmember Kettle.

1:11:20

Aye, Councilmember Rivera.

1:11:22

Aye.

1:11:23

Councilmember Strauss.

1:11:24

Chair Hollingsworth.

1:11:26

Aye.

1:11:26

Four in favor.

1:11:28

Awesome.

1:11:28

Uh amendment is amendment one number one is adopts adopted.

1:11:33

The motion carries.

1:11:34

Um are there any further comments on the bill as amended?

1:11:38

There are, and I'll save mine for last.

1:11:40

I see council member um Kettle and then Councilmember Rivera.

1:11:45

Uh I recognize people want to make comments, but my ability to vote is uh dwindling down.

1:11:51

So I was just gonna ask if we could move to a vote for the bill.

1:11:55

Awesome.

1:11:55

Thank you, Councilmember Kettle.

1:11:57

Uh yes, we will.

1:11:58

Councilmember Rivera.

1:12:00

You just want to move okay, awesome.

1:12:02

All right.

1:12:03

We uh we will if if the committee is okay, we'll vote on the bill, and then we'll go to closing comments.

1:12:11

Is that okay?

1:12:11

Sounds good.

1:12:12

Awesome.

1:12:13

Will the clerk please call a roll on the bill as amended?

1:12:16

Councilmember Kettle.

1:12:19

Aye.

1:12:20

Councilmember Rivera.

1:12:21

Aye.

1:12:21

Councilmember Strauss.

1:12:23

Hi.

1:12:24

Yes.

1:12:26

Awesome.

1:12:26

Bill passes and it will be sent.

1:12:28

Uh congratulate the bill passes as amended.

1:12:31

Congratulations, Councilmember Strauss, on all your work on that.

1:12:34

Uh, and I believe I know we're gonna uh lose Councilmember Kettle.

1:12:38

Thank you so much.

1:12:39

I will say um that I know that, and we partnered with Councilmember Strauss.

1:12:42

I know he left, but on June 1st, having an affordability meeting to talk about taxes and all of the costs in Seattle, and so uh really appreciate his partnership on that.

1:12:54

And this was one of the things people talk about was their utility bill.

1:12:57

So thank you, Central Staff, Brian Goodnight, and the rest of your team for all your help on this, and then also Seattle Public Utilities for all your help.

1:13:05

You all worked hard too as well on this.

1:13:07

And I know Councilmember Strauss had been working with you all for a couple years, so thank you so much.

1:13:12

Uh, did anyone else have any final comments about this bill, Councilmember Rivera?

1:13:16

I just wanted to quickly thank uh our colleague, Councilmember uh Strauss for bringing this forward.

1:13:22

I am a huge proponent of the UDP.

1:13:25

I really want to thank General Manager Lee for all the conversations around UDP um and you know the rates uh and uh um you know uh uh anything that we can do to help families um uh who are really struggling, um, we should be doing and really appreciate especially right now when we're all talking about affordability because people are really feeling crunched, um, and it's really sad.

1:13:53

And um any, you know, this runs the gamut.

1:13:56

This isn't many folks are feeling it across the board.

1:14:02

So thank you.

1:14:02

He's back, Councilmember Strauss for bringing this and really appreciate the the department's um partnership and um uh making these um expansions to the UDP so we can try to help more people.

1:14:17

Thank you.

1:14:18

Thank you.

1:14:18

Awesome.

1:14:18

Thank you, Councilmember.

1:14:19

Councilmember Strauss, do you have any closing comments?

1:14:23

No, this is just about making life more affordable for working families and doing so as quickly as possible.

1:14:29

Um it's really important.

1:14:31

I've heard so many stories from people, and it really like their livelihoods depend on whether they can make their bills there, whether they can pay their bills for the month.

1:14:42

And this is uh really effective way for us to be able to provide them direct relief and quickly.

1:14:49

So um just gratitude to everyone who's worked on this.

1:14:53

Awesome.

1:14:53

Thank you, Councilmember Strauss.

1:14:54

Thank you, Mr.

1:14:55

Goodnight, Brian, goodnight.

1:14:57

We're gonna jump into item number four.

1:14:58

It's a big deal.

1:15:00

So this will be on our July 14th.

1:15:03

City Council meeting.

1:15:05

Agenda item number four, CB 121245, an ordinance relating to the rates and changes, charges, excuse me, for water services of Seattle Public Utilities.

1:15:14

This is for briefing and discussion.

1:15:16

And we have SPU at the table.

1:15:18

Go ahead.

1:15:24

Hi, I'm Andrew Lee, General Manager, CEO for Seattle Public Utilities.

1:15:28

All right, Maria Co., rates and financial planning manager at Seattle Public Utilities.

1:15:33

Brian, good night, Council Central Staff.

1:15:35

Awesome.

1:15:36

Looking forward to talking about water rates.

1:15:39

Thank you, Council President Hollingsworth and members of the committee.

1:15:42

So each year at about this time, SPU brings forward to the council a rate proposal for one of our three lines of business.

1:15:49

Drinking water, solid waste, and drainage and wastewater.

1:15:52

And this year we're here to talk about water rates.

1:15:55

A little over two years ago, the council approved Seattle Public Utilities 2025 to 2030 strategic business plan or SPP.

1:16:04

As part of the SPP, SPU estimated the rate path for each of the lines of business.

1:16:09

And we're now here to follow up with legislation to adopt rates.

1:16:13

I'm pleased to report that the water rate proposal before you today is lower than the water rate that we approved in the 2027 to 29 rate forecast for the strategic business plan.

1:16:24

And it's also lower than the six-year average that was estimated for that rate path.

1:16:29

Maria Coe is SPU's rates manager, and she will lead you through our water rates proposal now.

1:16:34

All right.

1:16:35

Thank you, and good morning.

1:16:38

So today I'm going to walk you through the rate schedule, an overview of our water system and consumption trends, and this will be followed by the goals and new investments incorporated into the recommended rates.

1:16:49

We'll find um finish up with a review of customer bill impacts, including those enrolled in the utility discount program, including the amendment that was just passed.

1:16:59

So as Andrew Lee just mentioned, to spare you the suspense, the rate path we're bringing you today is consistent and below the strategic business plan that was approved two years ago by council.

1:17:10

So rates are typically set for a three-year period.

1:17:13

So the rates we're bringing you today for water are cover the years 2027, 28, and 29.

1:17:19

Next year you'll see me again for drainage and wastewater, and following that in 28 for solid waste.

1:17:26

This slide is a map of our water system, which is more than just Seattle.

1:17:32

The map shows the Seattle retail service area in yellow, our wholesale customers in orange, and our two watersheds, the Cedar and TOLT in green.

1:17:40

The system essentially functions as a loop, as you can see with the over 1,800 miles of pipe, and throughout the region, we serve 1.6 million people.

1:17:50

So while population has been steadily and significantly increasing over the decades, you'll notice consumption has decreased and been relatively stable for the past decade.

1:18:00

Much of this is due to our conservation ethos and denser housing stock, which has led to a decline in consumption per capita.

1:18:10

This slide outlines our rate setting goals and principles, which is to keep rates as low as possible, collect only the amount needed to maintain our system and deliver services, maintain a smooth, predictable rate path, support and expand utility assistance to as many customers as possible, and manage our assets so the system is healthy and stable for future generations.

1:18:34

These new investments included in the proposed rates support the goals that I just discussed in the previous slide.

1:18:43

This includes the cost of moving TOLT water treatment in-house and transferring annual hydrant inspection work from the Seattle Fire Department to SPU.

1:18:52

We're also investing in the longevity of our system through our capital program, including investigating the purchase of land in the TOLT watershed and moving to advanced metering infrastructure.

1:19:03

The proposal also includes the utility discount program change envisioned by Councilmember Strauss and approved by committee.

1:19:14

So you'll notice the expand leg the as discussed, the eligible population is expanded by almost one-third, and it adds one percent to the 2027 water rate increase.

1:19:25

I'll show you in the next slide, which is equivalent to 50 cents per month for residential customers.

1:19:32

So without further ado, here's the proposed rate path.

1:19:35

The top line shows what was presented and approved in the 2024 strategic business plan, where we had an average estimated rate of four percent per year over the six-year period, and a high rate of six point five percent in 2029.

1:19:51

The proposal we bring you today has an average six-year growth of 3.4% per year, and the rates we're proposing are 4.3% each in 27, 28, and 29.

1:20:00

And the rates we're proposing are 4.3% each in 27, 28, and 29.

1:20:09

We like to say customers pay bills, not rates.

1:20:12

So this slide shows the average bill increase anticipated under this proposal.

1:20:18

Single families will see a monthly increase of $2.82 in 2027.

1:20:24

And utility discount program, qualified families would see half of that or $1.41 per month.

1:20:32

This is the end of my presentation.

1:20:35

We do appreciate your time and consideration.

1:20:37

Can we answer any questions?

1:20:40

Thank you so much for that presentation.

1:20:42

I'll jump to Central Staff to see if they have any comments.

1:20:52

Awesome.

1:20:53

Thank you, Brian.

1:20:54

We love your memos.

1:20:55

Uh colleagues, are there any questions before us?

1:21:00

Councilmember Rivera?

1:21:02

Chair, thank you, Council President.

1:21:03

Um I I just wanted to say uh thank you for the presentation, and then thank you, uh, General Manager Lee and Bob, your staffer, um, for the meeting last week to talk about these um rate increases.

1:21:17

So I I I got a full briefing and I want to just state that for the record.

1:21:21

So folks, especially my constituents know I've been tracking, I've been getting informed and doing my due diligence in reviewing the rate increases.

1:21:29

Thank you, Chair.

1:21:32

Awesome.

1:21:32

Thank thank you, Councilmember Rivera.

1:21:34

Are there any other um comments?

1:21:37

Councilmember Strauss?

1:21:39

Happy to jump in.

1:21:40

Thank you, Chair.

1:21:40

Can we go back to slide number eight?

1:21:43

I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but would love to know more about how what was done to achieve some of these savings.

1:21:52

We had a proposed strategic plan for 6.3% this year, and we are seeing a 4.3% proposal.

1:22:00

This is good news, but what either are we not doing or where were we able to save money?

1:22:08

I know that there are many different SPU programs that are working, you know, for instance, stabilizing the hillside rather than drilling through a mountain so that we could get our our water supply here to the city safely.

1:22:20

That's one way that we saved probably billions of dollars.

1:22:23

We've also got the Ship Canal Water Quality Project that is one of the biggest capital projects going on right now.

1:22:29

So these are not small things that you are doing.

1:22:32

How did how were we able to save that nearly two percent in rate increase this year?

1:22:37

Yeah.

1:22:38

Do you want to take your crack or thorough do you want me to just charge it?

1:22:41

Um, you know, from year to year and through each of these cycles, we're constantly managing our monies.

1:22:47

And um and there are some true savings that are inherent in this.

1:22:50

I'm happy to report that the bidding market has actually gotten more favorable for us.

1:22:54

So we've had certain large projects, one of which the Bitter Lake Reservoir Project, you're familiar with that.

1:22:59

Um that bid came in about 30% less than our engineers' estimate, and we've had another couple of projects that have also kind of coincided with that sort of trend in the the market.

1:23:08

So the competitiveness in the contracting market has has gotten better for us, which has yielded lower prices.

1:23:14

Um in addition to that, I will say frankly that there is all there's um almost every year we have some amount of underspending, and um and that underspending typically has to do with either we were able to identify cost savings or there might have been things that were deferred.

1:23:29

Um the result of those is we uh end up accumulating a certain amount of cash.

1:23:33

Um and and that cash gets used to obviously lower some of these rate increases.

1:23:38

Um then we're able to levelize.

1:23:39

You'll see that the rate that was projected in the original SPP had a little bit of a bump up and then a bump down.

1:23:45

And um, and so we're able to levelize that as well.

1:23:48

Um I say I'll I add other things.

1:23:50

You know, we got favorable bond ratings and favorable bonds um are our rates in terms of the bond market.

1:23:56

And so that's also contributed.

1:23:58

We tend to make conservative assumptions on our our cost of borrowing, and um, and then if those assumptions are beaten um in terms of the rate the bonds that we sell, then we get to incorporate that into our rate projections.

1:24:09

And so it's a multitude of factors that's led to the lower than projected rate increases.

1:24:15

That's very helpful.

1:24:16

I know in at the next meeting, it would be helpful to see what Tacoma water is what their rate increases are doing.

1:24:23

I know that um I don't know if it was Taquila, Algona or CTAC, but one of our in slide four in one of our wholesale customer areas.

1:24:34

I know that they recently moved over to Coma Water.

1:24:37

I don't mind.

1:24:38

They can have their own water.

1:24:39

We've got the best in the Northwest and the And in America here with uh SPU, so I don't mind if other folks are going other places.

1:24:47

But um it would be interesting to see what our peer agencies are doing as well.

1:24:52

Yeah, absolutely.

1:25:00

Um I'll just state you know, having clean we had one of the um at the Association Washington Cities, we had a speaker come to talk about how 13 ways to kill your city quickly.

1:25:07

It's more built for rural environments, but the number one the first thing that he says is you don't invest in your water.

1:25:15

If you don't have clean, good water to drink, you are going to undercut your success in every single way.

1:25:23

And so it's just really I'm really proud of the clean water that we're able to provide, and that we get to drink.

1:25:28

Our tap water is more than drinkable, it's better than some of the bottled water that we have on the store shelves here in the city.

1:25:35

Um, and this is a little bit of a digression chair, but uh our salmon Bay FC, our soccer team, uh women's USL2 team is in the semifinals this weekend, and they've been playing teams from across the country.

1:25:49

And so we've been coming up with friendly jeers for these other teams because you can't be too nice, but you don't want to be too mean.

1:25:55

So, one team we said, well, you know, you're landlocked, so that's what we kept cheering.

1:25:58

You're landlocked, your landlocked.

1:26:00

Um, another team we said your your tap water is undrinkable.

1:26:05

And and after the game, it hit a little too close to home.

1:26:08

Um I said this jeer to I explained it to another person who's attending the game, and their face went so flat and scared because they thought I was saying that our tap water was undrinkable.

1:26:21

And I share this because it's something that we don't think about, we just turn on the tap, and there it is.

1:26:28

It becomes unconscious in our habits and something that we depend on.

1:26:33

But especially as climate change continues to occur, especially as other cities and other municipalities throughout the nation don't invest properly in their water systems.

1:26:45

That jeer of your tap water is undrinkable, is it cuts at the very humanity of cuts of the very like basics of our society because you can't be a living thriving human without clean water.

1:26:59

Um it's a long way of saying thank you for all of your work.

1:27:03

Um it's something that we have even, you know, as I tested it out with with the public this last week.

1:27:09

I can tell you the Seattleites who thought I was talking about their tap water were the most upset I've seen.

1:27:15

So thank you for providing us clean tap water.

1:27:18

Um, and thank you for being able to keep these rates low.

1:27:21

Thank you.

1:27:21

Awesome.

1:27:22

Thank you, Councilmember Strauss.

1:27:23

Well said.

1:27:24

And if you could go back to the proposed rates, I'll be super quick.

1:27:28

I do really appreciate the intentionality behind this every time.

1:27:33

I know that the city we do a little bit stuff different, and there's a little slight at the county.

1:27:38

We do a little different for our rates.

1:27:40

I know I can say this and others probably can't, but I know that the wastewater is directly connected to King County.

1:27:47

Um, and so that's why a lot of people see a very high jump there.

1:27:51

Um, and I know that oftentimes it probably puts pressure on the other places uh in which we're trying to figure out how we're more efficient with water drainage, solid waste.

1:28:02

Um, and so anyways, I know that we've been working hard in you all too as well.

1:28:06

Um, and we want to work hard hard with the county so we can be in alignment with their wastewater rates and affordability as well, because that is very important, and I believe it's 25% of someone's bill our wastewater around that.

1:28:21

So just saying if you see your bill, it's 25% is the county.

1:28:26

So 25% of the anger should go to King County when we're talking about wastewater, but or your whole bill.

1:28:33

Um, but that's really important to us, and and uh just really appreciate the intentionality behind it and you all just staying very consistent.

1:28:41

If you look at 2025 and just that slight increase, you could argue a lot of that increase is because of the wastewater piece um with some of the uh percentages.

1:28:51

So really appreciate that.

1:28:52

So thank you, Director.

1:28:53

I don't know if you all have any other comments, but I know we'll discuss this again uh in our next meeting.

1:28:59

No, awesome.

1:29:00

All right, thank you all for being here, really appreciate it.

1:29:02

And looking forward to that memo as well from Mr.

1:29:04

Goodnight and Central Staff.

1:29:06

All right, colleagues, we have two more items on the agenda.

1:29:08

They're gonna be read in together.

1:29:11

Um I will read them in.

1:29:12

Thank you, Clerk.

1:29:13

So we have Council Bill 121246, an ordinance relating to emergency assistance for Seattle Public Utilities customers.

1:29:24

Uh, and then we have Council Bill 1214 7 and ordinance relating to the Seattle City Lights Department emergency bill assistance.

1:29:31

This is for briefing and discussing discussion only.

1:29:35

We will also discuss this further on our July 29th meeting.

1:29:38

So we do have a special meeting at the end of the month as well.

1:29:42

All right.

1:29:43

Let's rock and roll.

1:29:44

Thank you.

1:29:46

Andrew Lee, General Manager, CEO for Seattle Public Utilities.

1:29:49

Leslie Brinson, Senior Policy Advisor, Seattle Public Utilities.

1:29:52

Uh Marcus Jackson, Director of Custom Operations, Seattle City Light.

1:29:56

Rob Santov, General Manager and CEO for Seattle City Light.

1:30:00

And still Brian, goodnight, Council Central Staff.

1:30:03

He has not changed his name in five minutes.

1:30:10

The next two proposed ordinances are companion bills.

1:30:14

They would expand SPU's emergency assistance program, known as EAP, and Seattle City Lights Emergency Bill Assistance Program, which serve as a safety net to prevent water and electricity shutoffs.

1:30:27

The proposed ordinances would increase eligibility in the two programs from 80% of state median income to 80% of area median income.

1:30:36

The effect of the legislation would be to increase the population that is eligible for City Lights program by 37% to 188,000, and SPU's program by 50% to 39,000.

1:30:50

And before handing off the presentation to Leslie Brinson, I'd like to offer Rob Santoff, General Manager CEO for Seattle City Light to the opportunity to make some opening remarks.

1:31:00

Yeah, thank you.

1:31:01

So good morning, President Hollinsworth and committee members.

1:31:04

Rob Santoff, the intern general manager and CEO at Seattle City Light.

1:31:08

I'm joined here from City Light today with Marcus Jackson, our uh customer operations director.

1:31:13

Uh we're pleased to be here today to present on this ordinance was to expand the eligibility for Seattle City Lights emergency bill assistance.

1:31:20

So more customers facing sudden financial hardships from job loss, medical emergencies, and other crises can access uh immediate help.

1:31:30

The Washington Clean Energy Transformation Act requires electric utilities to have at least one assistance program that includes eligibility for customers or below 80% of our area medium income.

1:31:42

This proposed emergency bill assistance expansion allows CityLight to meet the Clean Energy Transformation Transformation Act's requirements.

1:31:52

Like our proposed utility discount program changes, these improvements streamline income verification and make the program easier to access.

1:32:00

Aligning with our broader affordability and equity goals.

1:32:07

And with that, I'll turn it over to our presenters.

1:32:10

Thank you.

1:32:12

All right.

1:32:12

Marcus and I will work through this, but since we have had some conversation about the utility discount program today, we will skip ahead.

1:32:21

But very excited that the expansion of our ongoing affordability program with UDP will be happening on January 1 per the amendment.

1:32:29

Um that the emergency bill assistance programs are really an excellent complement to those programs.

1:32:35

These provide sort of annual assistance to address episodic financial hardships that families face.

1:32:44

Um and currently they are at, as Andrew mentioned, they are at 80% of state median income, and we're proposing that that go to 80% of area median income.

1:32:53

The other significant change that we're looking at here is that right now households with children get twice the amount of assistance as households without.

1:33:04

And that leaves a lot of folks, seniors included, without access to the full assistance amount.

1:33:09

So we'll be proposing to that to change.

1:33:16

Okay.

1:33:31

This expansion also allows us to offer utility assistance to a broader spectrum of households, all the way up to 80% to varying median income.

1:33:40

It helps City Light comply with the requirements of the Washington State Clean Energy Transformation Act.

1:33:47

And we are really working together, SPU and City Light with the Human Services Department as well, to make sure that our programs are working together really well.

1:33:57

Um, and that we're using this moment in time to really inform how we move forward if and when we expand the programs more in the future.

1:34:08

Okay.

1:34:09

This is I have previously talked to you sort of about the three departments together.

1:34:15

This is specific to the Seattle Public Utilities program.

1:34:19

Um we will be increasing to or we are proposing to increase to 80% AMI, which increases our eligible population by 50%.

1:34:28

Um that really equates to our emergency assistance really equates to assistance for about four months worth of bills.

1:34:36

So about a thousand dollars a year, which is essentially a 30% annual discount.

1:34:41

That can be combined with our utility discount program, which means that if someone is on the utility discount program and still needs more help and accesses the emergency assistance program, they are only paying 33% of the annual cost of those utilities.

1:35:00

As I mentioned, the doubling the amount of assistance available for households without children.

1:35:06

When SPU looked into this and we were looking just at our directly billed customers, so those customers who have their own individual water meters, which are often folks who live in a single family home or a town home, um, or an Adu Dadu condo sometimes.

1:35:22

Only about 20% of people within our income eligibility have children in the homes.

1:35:28

So doubling our assistance for all customers accessing the emergency assistance program brings a lot more people into the ability to get that maximum thousand dollar amount.

1:35:41

This slide shows lots of details and lots of words, um, running through the specific legislat changes that you will see outlined in the legislation.

1:35:50

Um again, increasing to 80% area median income.

1:35:54

We are changing and modernizing the language in the code.

1:35:57

It currently refers to single family residences as being the only eligible type of home.

1:36:04

We're removing that to talk about individually metered residences.

1:36:08

We are changing so that all have households have access to the maximum amount of assistance, which is for SPU is about a thousand dollars a month.

1:36:17

We are moving to, and then we're moving some of the programmatic sort of administrative detail out of the code into director's rules.

1:36:24

So those will be published later this year for implementation next year.

1:36:29

And one of the things that we have realized in that process is that currently we require folks to apply to us for assistance, and if they only have, say, a $400 balance on their bill, we give them $400.

1:36:43

And then they come back to us later in the year when they need more assistance and they have a bigger balance.

1:36:48

So we are now saying, okay, apply to us once, streamline it.

1:36:52

They will get the full amount of assistance when they apply, and then we will we will do the sort of accounting and tick that down over time without them having to ask.

1:37:04

Turning it over to Marcus.

1:37:06

All right.

1:37:08

So on the City Light side, we have an our emergency assistance um program and changes there, similar to SPU.

1:37:16

Uh, we're going to uh increase the income eligibility to eligibility to 80% of area median median income, and that's going to uh increase access for about 50,000 more customers for City Light and the surrounding cities.

1:37:31

Um customers will receive assistance for uh up to four months of bills, which is essentially about a 33% uh annual discount.

1:37:40

Uh it helps our most energy burden customers based on their usage.

1:37:44

Uh and it complies with the Washington State Clean Energy Transformation Act that Rob spoke about uh in having a program up to 80% of area median income.

1:37:54

And as we always try to do, uh it aligns SPU and SEO program policies so we can reduce customer confusion as they're applying for different benefits.

1:38:04

Uh the summary on our end is uh is similar.

1:38:08

Uh we're obviously moving to uh 80% of area median income, uh, and that's gonna make our total eligible customer population about 188,000 households.

1:38:18

Um they will receive a benefit equal to the last two bi-monthly bills if they're bi-monthly customer or the last four bills if they happen to be a monthly residential customer.

1:38:27

Um that adapts for energy burden um that's out of the customer's control.

1:38:34

Um the other thing is they will get a maximum uh benefit.

1:38:38

Previously, customers would, you know, if they didn't need the whole amount, they would apply, get a portion of the benefit, come back later and ask for the the remaining portion.

1:38:46

We're gonna kind of give the maximum benefit uh when a customer applies and have a completed application so they don't have to come back to us three or four times during the year.

1:38:54

Um so that'll eliminate a lot of the paperwork and headaches that customers uh the folks earlier today had complained about.

1:39:00

Um the other thing we're changing on our side uh to align with SPU is the past due balance requirement.

1:39:07

We used to require that customers had to have a pass-through balance to be able to uh access the program, but now as long as you owe us money, you'll be able to um apply for these programs.

1:39:18

So if you get a bill and you know automatically you can't pay, you don't need to wait until the bill becomes delinquent to decide to reach out to get help.

1:39:25

Um and lastly, um this moves our you know program policies uh and procedures to allow um changes to uh allows program change to adapt more quickly as customers' needs arise.

1:39:37

So um we'll keep making changes uh as we need to.

1:39:45

And then this slide just covers a summary of the changes collectively between Council Member Strauss's bill and the two bills before you that we are expanding our ongoing affordability through the utility discount program to 60 percent of area immediately income, and then the two utility program, the two emergency assistance programs will be going up to 80 percent of area median income.

1:40:07

Happy to take questions.

1:40:10

Thank you all for this.

1:40:12

It's really super helpful to understand the intentionality behind all of the utility discount programs in Seattle City Light, who would be eligible, the increases and all the good stuff.

1:40:23

So I will pause here to see if my colleagues have any comments.

1:40:27

Last two agenda items.

1:40:28

Council I see you grabbing your microphone, Councilmember Strauss.

1:40:31

Just gratitude.

1:40:32

This these programs make the difference in so many people's lives.

1:40:37

Um, with the emergency assistance for both, and then there's also uh remind me the name of the program where people can donate.

1:40:46

Project share, project share.

1:40:48

These these programs make a real difference in people's lives.

1:40:51

Um I recently had a uh resident reach out for assistance because their power had been turned off.

1:40:58

Uh they hadn't been auto-enrolled and they forgot I offered them these programs, they didn't need them.

1:41:04

But it was that moment of there were some pretty big health things going on in that person's life.

1:41:12

Um, and if they had needed help, I was reassured because help was there because of programs like these.

1:41:20

So really appreciate all your work.

1:41:22

Thank you.

1:41:23

Awesome.

1:41:24

Uh thank you, Councilmember Strauss.

1:41:25

Councilmember Rivera.

1:41:27

Thank you.

1:41:27

Um, Chair and Council President.

1:41:30

Echoing my um colleague, Councilmember Strauss's um gratitude uh for the work that both departments have done uh to really address um folks' uh needs across the city as we're experiencing this affordability um crunch.

1:41:47

And uh just want to say that I know that both our utilities over the years, um, I've had the the privilege of working with both utilities over the years, some of our colleagues at the table too over the years, and I know the commitment to wanting to help folks as we have to do things like rate increases across the city.

1:42:07

We wish we didn't have to do them.

1:42:10

Um, and I know the folks at both uh departments and uh more I see you back there too.

1:42:16

Um, you know, over the years have tried really hard to make sure that as we have to do these increases, looking for opportunities to provide relief to some folks that are gonna get impacted the most by these increases.

1:42:31

So I I really want to uplift that because this is not something that either department's leaderships and staff take lightly.

1:42:39

So thank you.

1:42:40

Thank you, Chair.

1:42:41

Awesome.

1:42:42

Thank you.

1:42:42

I'll echo the words of my two colleagues from Councilmember Rivera and Councilmember Strauss just gratitude and and very thankful uh for putting this together and then also just making the city a lot more affordable than what it is right now.

1:42:55

And we heard the impact from folks speaking today, or we get emails from people or find people in the grocery stores that talk about how important uh these programs are for them just to continue to live and sustain and uh be able to uh live in our city.

1:43:12

So this is very very grateful.

1:43:14

I don't know if there's any closing comments at all.

1:43:17

Brian goodnight.

1:43:18

I I forgot I didn't ask you anything.

1:43:20

Yes.

1:43:22

No comments, sir.

1:43:23

Thanks.

1:43:23

Absolutely.

1:43:24

Go ahead.

1:43:24

Yeah, I just wanted to uh say thanks for your comments and then just you know go on the record to say thanks to all the employees that worked on this at SPU and SEL and then the conversations we had with you all.

1:43:35

So just wanted to get that out there and say thank you to everybody involved.

1:43:39

Awesome, thank you as well.

1:43:41

Um so if there's no more comments, um well, thank you.

1:43:45

Uh I know that we will have further discussion on July 29th uh about this, so about these two bills, right?

1:43:53

And a possible vote, I'm assuming.

1:43:55

Awesome, thank you.

1:43:56

All right, thank you all for being here.

1:43:58

Really appreciate your time as always.

1:43:59

Thank you.

1:44:00

Thank you.

1:44:00

And this brings us to the end of our July 9th governance and utilities meeting.

1:44:06

I also want to give a special shout out because he's never at the table, but Bob Hennessy, our favorite council lays on for department.

1:44:12

I'm just playing, but he's one of our faves.

1:44:14

He didn't hear me, but that's fine.

1:44:16

He's acting like he doesn't hear me, and that's fine.

1:44:18

But Bob Hennessy, thank you for being a really great council liaison, my friend.

1:44:24

And more abroad, yes, and Mora, thank you too as well.

1:44:27

We really appreciate you as well.

1:44:28

You're one of our favorites as well.

1:44:29

Our favorite.

1:44:30

Yes.

1:44:31

Okay.

1:44:32

Maura and Bob.

1:44:33

I'm just fine.

1:44:34

Y'all are up there both.

1:44:35

All right.

1:44:36

Thank you all for all your work.

1:44:38

Uh thank you to everyone.

1:44:40

Thank you.

1:44:40

I didn't see more.

1:44:41

I my apologies.

1:44:42

Thank you.

1:44:43

Thank you, Councilmember Rivera.

1:44:44

Um, this brings us to the end of our July 9th governance and utilities meeting.

1:44:49

Thank you, everyone and committee colleagues.

1:44:52

With that, we have no further agenda items today.

1:44:55

Our next schedule meeting is July 29th, 2026, 9 30.

1:45:00

Here, knowing further business, it's 11 20 a.m.

1:45:01

sharp.

1:45:02

Thank you.

1:45:04

Nice work, Robert.

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Summary of Proceedings

Seattle Governance and Utilities Committee Special Meeting - July 29, 2026

This special meeting of the Governance and Utilities Committee, chaired by Council President Joy Hollingsworth, covered multiple items including an appointment to the Washington State Convention Center board, an annual update on audit recommendations, and several utility assistance programs. The committee voted to confirm an appointment and to expand the Utility Discount Program (UDP) eligibility threshold. Briefings were also held on water rates and emergency bill assistance programs for Seattle Public Utilities (SPU) and Seattle City Light (SCL). Notable discrepancies exist between the printed agenda and the actual meeting order; items on Artificial Intelligence investment reports and the Technology Matching Fund were not discussed.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Six in-person speakers and one online speaker addressed the committee. Most speakers (Marta, Dr. Miury Rao, Peter, Becca Miller Rose, Sarah, Michael) expressed strong support for expanding the Utility Discount Program (UDP), urging easier enrollment, annual reporting, and automatic enrollment. Speakers highlighted the program's impact on seniors, disabled veterans, and fixed-income households. One speaker, Sarah, also briefly commented on the annual status report, noting concerns about unaddressed public safety recommendations.
  • David Haynes (online) criticized the city auditor and human services department, alleging insufficient oversight and misallocation of funds related to public safety and homelessness policies.

Discussion Items

  1. Appointment to Washington State Convention Center Board – The committee considered the appointment of Zahoer Ahmed to the Washington State Convention Center Public Facilities District Board for a term to July 30, 2030. Jen Lemaster (President/CEO of Seattle Convention Center) and Mr. Ahmed spoke in support, highlighting his hospitality and finance experience. Councilmembers discussed downtown connectivity, leveraging World Cup momentum, and the need for continued investment in public spaces. The appointment was confirmed unanimously.

  2. Audit Recommendation Updates – The City Auditor's office (Arushi Thakerlow, Sarah Land, Claudia Gross Schader) presented their annual follow-up report. As of December 31, 2025, 10 of 94 open recommendations had been implemented (72% overall implementation rate). Notable progress was reported on park restrooms, construction permitting, and public safety audits. Recommendations on gun violence, retail theft, and overdose/crime concentrations remained pending. Councilmembers Rivera and Kettle emphasized the need to act on audit findings, especially regarding gun violence and permitting delays. Councilmember Strauss requested a future joint presentation with all permitting departments.

  3. Utility Discount Program (UDP) Expansion – CB 12122 – Councilmember Strauss presented a bill to modify the UDP eligibility threshold from 70% of state median income to 60% of area median income (AMI), effective January 1, 2027 (amended from April 1, 2027). The change is expected to increase eligible households by about 31,000 (nearly 30%) and could enroll roughly 11,000 new customers. An amendment (Amendment 1) was adopted, moving the effective date and adding annual reporting requirements through 2031. The bill as amended passed 4-0.

  4. Water Rates – CB 1212453 – SPU presented proposed water rates for 2027-2029, with an average annual increase of 4.3% per year (lower than the 6.5% forecast in the 2024 Strategic Business Plan). The reduction was attributed to favorable bidding markets, bond rates, and cost savings. Single-family customers would see an average monthly increase of $2.82 in 2027 ($1.41 for UDP enrollees). The committee discussed the impact of King County wastewater charges and commended SPU for managing costs. No vote was taken; further discussion scheduled for the next meeting.

  5. Emergency Bill Assistance Programs – CB 1212461 and CB 1212472 – Companion ordinances to expand SPU and SCL emergency assistance eligibility from 80% of state median income to 80% of area median income. The changes would increase eligible households by 50% for SPU (to 39,000) and 37% for SCL (to 188,000). Program improvements include removing the child-only maximum benefit, streamlining applications, and eliminating the past-due balance requirement. The programs align with the Washington Clean Energy Transformation Act. No vote was taken; further discussion planned for the July 29, 2026 meeting.

Key Outcomes

  • Appointment confirmed: Zahoer Ahmed was unanimously recommended for confirmation to the Washington State Convention Center Board (moved to City Council vote on July 14, 2026).
  • UDP Expansion passed: CB 12122 (as amended) passed 4-0, expanding eligibility to 60% AMI with annual reporting through 2031. The bill will be sent to the full Council.
  • Audit update received: No formal action; committee members requested further engagement from permitting departments and a joint presentation on public safety audits.
  • Water rates and emergency assistance briefings: No votes; both items will return for further discussion on July 29, 2026.

Meeting Transcript

Hey, good morning, everyone. The July 9th, 2026 meeting. Good morning. Hello, everyone. Good morning. Good morning. We're starting. I'm sorry. I we kept you waiting. Good morning. And we're live right now on TV. All right, you ready? All right. The movie has started. Good morning. The July 9th, 2026 meeting of the Governance and Utilities Committee will come to order. It is 9 36 a.m. I'm Joy Hollingsworth, Council President. Will the clerk please call the roll? Councilmember Kettle. Hi. Councilmember. Councilmember Rivera. Councilmember Strauss. Vice Chair Warez. Chair Hollingsworth. Here. Chair, there are three present. Awesome. Councilmember Warz is excused. And Councilmember Rivera is excused until she gets here. Happy July. It's July, right? Happy July. We're gonna jump right in. We have a full agenda, so we're gonna jump right into the meeting. And I know that we have some committee meeting uh members that might have hard stops, so we're gonna power through. We're gonna now consider the agenda. If there's no objection, the agenda will be adopted. Hearing no objection, the agenda is adopted. We'll now open the hybrid public comment period. Public comments should be related to items on today's agenda or be within the purview of the committee. Clerk, how many speakers do we have? So we have Chair, we have six in person, none online. Okay, awesome. Each speaker will have two minutes. The public comment period will, I'm gonna read the directions will be moderated in the following matter. Speakers will be called in the order in which they are registered on council's website and the sign-up sheet available here in council chambers to my right, your left. If you have not registered to speak but would like to, you can sign up before the end of the public comment period or on the council's website. The link is listed on today's agenda or by signing up on the sign-up sheet.

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