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City of St. Petersburg Council Meeting Summary (Nov 24, 2025)

City CouncilMonday, November 24, 2025
BodySt Petersburg, Florida
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, November 24, 2025
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0:00

Welcome to the City of St.

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Petersburg City Council meeting.

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Your elected officials are Mayor Ken Welch, District 1, and Council Chair, Hopley Gurtis.

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District 2, Brandy Gabbert.

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District 3, Mike Harding, District 4, and Council Vice Chair, Lasseth Hanowitz.

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District 5, Deborah Fake Sanders.

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District 6, Gina Driscoll.

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District 7, Corey Gibbons Jr.

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And District 8, Richie Floyd.

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Good evening, everybody.

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Welcome to the November 24th, 2025 City Council meeting.

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If we could do a roll call, please, Clerk.

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Hannawitz?

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Here.

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Here.

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Gibbons?

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Here.

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Oh wait.

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Here it is.

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Here.

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Here.

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Okay.

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If everybody could please join me in standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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A Pledge of Allegiance.

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One nation under God.

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Indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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Please be seated.

1:18

Okay, Council members, we have an agenda in front of us.

1:21

I'll entertain a motion to move approval.

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Second.

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We have a motion and a second on the agenda.

1:25

Seeing there's no other council members wishing to speak, clerk.

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Could you please open the machine for voting?

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Thank you.

1:38

Council members, please enter your votes.

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Seeing as all present council members have voted.

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Clerk, please tally and announce the vote.

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The motion to approve the agenda passes unanimously with council member Harding being absent.

1:49

Okay, thank you.

1:49

We're now we're gonna move into open forum.

1:51

Clerk, could you please read the rules?

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If you wish to address any council on subject other subjects other than public hearing or quasi judicial items listed on the agenda, please sign up with the clerk.

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Only the individual wishing to speak may sign the open forum sheet.

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Only city residents, owners of property, business owners in the city or their employees may speak.

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All issues discussed on the open forum must be limited to issues related to the city of St.

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Petersburg government.

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If you are speaking to an item on the agenda, you may only speak once during the open form or when the item is up on the agenda.

2:28

In order to provide an opportunity for all citizens to address council, each individual will be given three minutes to speak, and after which the microphone will be muted.

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If you wish to address city council through the Zoom meeting, you must use a raise hand feature button in the Zoom app or enter star nine on your phone at the time the agenda item is addressed.

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When it is your turn to speak, you will be unmuted and asked to state your name and address at the conclusion of your comments or when you reach the three-minute time limit, you will be muted.

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All raised hands will be lowered after each agenda item.

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Regardless of the method of participation used, normal rules apply, including the three-minute time limit on comments, the requirement that any presentation of materials must be submitted in advance of the meeting and the rules of the quorum.

3:11

If live public comment is disrupted by violations of the rules of the quorum, the chair is authorized to accept public comment by alternate means, including by email only.

3:21

Mr.

3:21

Chair, we do not have any speakers in the chamber, and we have no one in Zoom as well.

3:26

Okay.

3:27

All right, we will move on from open forum and we'll go into our public hearing for the evening.

3:32

We've got D1, an ordinance enacting year-end appropriation adjustments for FY25, and we're joined by Liz McCoskey.

3:38

Liz, welcome.

3:42

Oh, please and thank you.

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Sorry about that.

3:47

Proposed ordinance number 621H, an ordinance enacting year-in appropriations, adjustment appropriation adjustments for the fiscal year for fiscal year 2025 for the operating and capital improvement program budget and adjustments to the fiscal year 2026 budget and providing an effective date.

4:06

And we do have one card for this item, Mr.

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Chair.

4:08

Okay, thank you.

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And it wouldn't be a city council meeting if I didn't screw something up.

4:12

So now we'll go to Liz Mikoski.

4:14

All right, thank you, and good evening, Chair, members of City Council.

4:18

Uh this evening we have the second reading in public hearing for the fiscal year 2025 and fiscal year 2026 budget reconciliation or cleanup ordinance 621H.

4:30

At the November 6th Budget Finance and Taxation Committee meeting, we had a detailed discussion of both the FY25 and FY26 recommended budget adjustments, and um based on our October 16th preliminary financial close, and later that afternoon we had the first reading of the cleanup ordinance at City Council.

4:51

In between now and the November 6th meetings, there have been a number of adjustments or changes to both revenues and expenditures, and this evening I will be give a summarized version of the proposed changes from first reading.

5:00

And this evening I will be give a summarized version of the proposed changes from first reading.

5:06

The beginning fund balance for the general fund in FY25 was 84.769 million, and based on our city's financials as of November 5th, we estimated FY25 entries included on the cleanup ordinance that approximately 4.215 million of the general funds balance will be used.

5:27

The FY26 budget entries included in the FY2526 cleanup ordinance will use an additional 10.214 million in general fund balance.

5:38

And the estimated net effect is a decrease of 14.429 million in general fund balance with an FY26 estimated ending balance of 70.340 million.

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This is an improvement over the first reading by about 1.7 million and is mainly due to additional revenue being recorded.

5:59

Any actions, additional budget actions taken during this fiscal year would change this estimate.

6:07

So looking at an overview of the general fund at FY25 year end, this chart shows the estimated FY25 year end general fund balance based on the November 5th financial reports.

6:18

Since the first reading, revenues have increased by approximately 1.5 million, and the majority of this increase was in our grants category.

6:26

Estimated expenditures in the general fund increased by 31,000.

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And the net result is the estimated amount of fund balance used at the end of FY25, which is now the 4.215 million compared to our estimate of 5.68 million at first reading.

6:44

This is a reduction of approximately 1.47 million in fund balance used.

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There are actions in the 26 portion of the cleanup ordinance that will increase this amount, and the projected use of fund balance is mainly due to expenditures related to hurricanes Helene and Milton, which were partially offset by greater than budgeted revenues.

7:07

This slide shows the 14.67% core general fund target of 57.231 million, and our 20% general fund group of funds target of $78.338 million.

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And the estimated general fund balances at the end of FY25.

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We estimate that the $14.67 core general fund target will be exceeded by $23.323 million, and our general fund group of funds target exceeded by $50.447 million.

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This estimate does not include the $11.5 million in FY26 supplemental appropriations or rollover amounts that are included in the FY26 portion of the cleanup ordinance, and it'll be discussed later in the presentation.

7:53

Therefore, these actions will reduce will expend 10.214 million of additional fund balance accounting for 1.282 million in associated grant revenue.

8:07

So we're looking at the supplement appropriations needed to close out FY25 in the general fund.

8:14

The appropriations on this slide total 16.782 million, and the amount listed for the first eight items are for budget authority only, and all amounts are included in the 529.36 million in total expenditure estimate for FY25.

8:30

And since our first reading, the amounts needed for the engineering and capital improvement and fire rescue departments decreased, while the stormwater pavement traffic operations department increased slightly.

9:36

More information again can be found in section one, pages five through six of the backup.

9:40

Since first reading, both the fleet management and commercial insurance insurance funds amounts decreased, and the other four amounts did not change.

9:50

In the capital improvement funds, there are funds that require supplemental appropriations in FY25, and these changes are included on the next three slides, but there's no changes since the first reading.

10:08

At the end of each fiscal year, we commit or assign certain amounts within the general fund, and these six categories were established when council adopted the FY26 budget.

10:18

We now have projections for how much will be committed for each of these categories.

10:23

The operating reappropriations or encumbrances amount in the general fund is 6.133 million and is the only amount on this list that has changed since first reading.

10:33

These encumbrances have been paid in FY25 and are included in our 529.36 million expenditure estimate amount and will become actuals in FY26.

10:47

A full list of the FY25 operating reappropriations is located in Section 5, pages 11 through 12 of the backup, and there are a total of 40 funds that are and that have entered into a contract or legal commitment to spend funding in FY25, but were unable to complete the purchase or did not receive the deliverable during FY20 during FY25.

11:10

These expenses were paid with FY24 resources, but they will become an actual in FY26, and they have already been netted out of the beginning FY26 fund balances and will not have a budgetary impact in FY26.

11:23

In the general fund, again, there's a total of 6.13 million in encumbrances to roll over to FY26, and 179,000 are related to BP funding.

11:36

Moving on to the general fund supplemental appropriations for FY26.

11:41

The FY26 supplemental appropriation requests for both the general fund and other funds are mostly made up of items, programs, or projects that were budgeted for in FY25, but due to timing or other circumstances were not purchased or completed before year end.

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Therefore, the unexpended appropriation is requested to roll over to the next fiscal year to complete the purchase or project.

12:04

Grants and our non-departmental appropriations to programs where fiscal years do not align with our budget fiscal year, are example of many of these types of supplemental appropriation requests.

12:16

This slide mirrors the earlier FY25 year end slide and shows the impact of the 26 cleanup items on the general fund balance.

12:24

And again, the BP funds are separate from the general fund operating.

12:29

And since the first reading, the total rollover and supplemental request amount has decreased by 244,000 and is now 11.5 million.

12:38

And I'll highlight some of the changes in more detail over the next few slides.

12:44

Going back to the slides shown at the beginning of the presentation, when you combine the FY25 and 26 cleanup actions, we have the total estimated net impact to the general fund as a decrease of 14.429 million in fund balance.

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And again, this is an improvement over first reading by about 1.7 million, and again is mainly due to additional revenue recorded since first reading.

13:09

The total amounts requested in the general fund for FY26 supplement appropriations again is 11.5 million.

13:17

This slide summarizes those requests by departments and administration.

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Finance increase due to one of the rollovers in police being reclassified as a transfer, and then police decreased by that like amount.

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Parks, libraries, transportation, housing and neighborhood service administration, and public works administration departments all decreased.

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Additional information can be found in section six on pages 13 through 15 for these appropriations.

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The detailed information for the FY26 supplemental appropriations for other city funds can be found on section six, pages 16 through 18 of the backup.

14:02

There are 29 funds in total requesting rollover project supplemental appropriations in FY26.

14:10

And since first reading, nine fund amounts have changed.

14:14

Four of the housing grant funds amounts changed, including the local housing, CDBG, home, and federal operating.

14:22

The ARPA, the CDBGDR, and affordable housing amounts increased, and water resources and the health insurance amounts decreased.

14:32

The box on the left includes 12 funds where the appropriation requests is to roll over unspent grant funding, and some of the housing funds it is also to appropriate additional program revenue.

14:45

There are now four supplemental appropriations requested for FY26 in the CIP funds.

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The second appropriation has been added since the first reading, and this was originally an operating rollover request for the deplete police department, but it will now be a CIP project instead of an operating expense.

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That was the transfer in finance that increase, and the police rollover amount was reduced by this amount.

15:18

There are no transfers to the arts and public places fund required at cleanup based on the FY25 transactions.

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And we do have one project name change in the general capital improvement fund, updating the Coliseum Ballroom Floor Project to the Coliseum Improvement Project to encompass both the roof and floor replacements at the Coliseum.

15:41

And with that, are there any questions?

15:43

Okay.

15:44

Thanks, Liz.

15:45

Let's go to public comment.

15:49

Speaker, Mr.

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Chair, Nicole Waters.

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Please go to add the podium, state your name and address for the record, and you have three minutes to address City Council.

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Good evening, City Council members.

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My name is Nicole Waters, and I'm honored to stand here.

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As the president of the Edge District, alongside my colleagues from the St.

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Petersburg neighboring districts.

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Together, we represent hundreds of small businesses and thousands of residents who depend on the strength, stability, and vibrancy of our commercial corridors.

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After years of partnership with the city, one truth remains the same.

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Our districts are force multipliers for the priorities you care most about.

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Economic vitality, safety, and community identity and placemaking.

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We do daily on the ground work that the city simply cannot do at scale.

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In the Edge District alone, we advocate, educate, and promote for over 145 independent businesses, entrepreneurs, creatives, service providers, and employers who form the culture and economic backbone of St.

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Petersburg.

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And we don't just support commerce.

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We strengthen community.

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This year's Halloween on Central is a perfect example.

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We began as a bold idea, has become one of the city's most beloved family-friendly citywide celebration.

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Tens of thousands of residents joined together on a car-free Central Avenue, supporting local businesses, connecting across neighborhoods, and experiencing the best of who we are as a city.

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Events like this do not happen without district leadership.

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We also serve as caretakers for our neighborhoods.

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And this is not just trash cleanup.

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This is where community building moments happen and keeping our corridors safe, welcoming, and well maintained.

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Districts also stretch every dollar you invest.

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We leverage memberships, grants, sponsorships, and volunteer hours to produce results far beyond what our current city allocation can cover.

18:05

As a cost reside, I'm sorry, as the costs rise, maintaining the same level of service without the same level of support becomes increasingly difficult.

18:15

That's why we're here today to respectfully and enthusiastically request an increase in the annual city support from $55,000 to $75,000 per district.

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This modest increase protects and strengthens a system that already works.

18:33

Let me close simply and clearly.

19:02

Thank you.

19:05

No more speakers.

19:06

Okay.

19:06

Thank you.

19:07

Councilmember Givens.

19:09

Thank you, Chair.

19:09

Uh, I want to start by thanking Nicole for her voice.

19:13

Uh, I see some other folks in the Deuces Live Business District here as well.

19:17

Um, this was something that I had requested originally in my budget request for fiscal year 26 that we look at uh an additional appropriation for our main street districts.

19:29

Um, I certainly think that it is a worthwhile cause.

19:32

Um we think about how our small businesses depend on us, but I don't think they realize how much we depend on them.

19:41

Um, especially our main street business district associations.

19:45

Um, each of those organizations, whether it be Grand Central, the Edge District, Deuces Live, you are all doing the heavy lifts.

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It's our jobs just to be there to support you.

20:00

And it's my understanding that we've been uh giving a $55,000 uh cash allotment or allocation to uh these main street districts for the past five years.

20:07

I'm just curious.

20:08

I I brought this up to administration, but I just want to know has there been any further conversation about uh some supplemental appropriations for them?

20:16

Good evening, council members, and uh thank you for that question, and certainly we're very grateful uh to the main street teams and everything that they do in the community, they do do wonderful work.

20:26

Um, you know, we've had this discussion during the year.

20:29

We think this discussion will continue going forward into the next budget year or possibly a new business item from a council member to continue the discussion.

20:37

But tonight with where we're at, we're not recommending any new spending in the cleanup action tonight.

20:43

And we haven't had any further discussion other than that since your call to uh Mr.

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Green.

20:48

Okay, I appreciate that.

20:49

Thank you for that feedback.

20:50

I just asked that we look at possibly some contingency funds, maybe just a five thousand dollar to ten thousand dollar cost of living increase.

20:57

Um, just a suggestion.

20:58

Um, and then lastly, um, if we could discuss um not too far in depth, I don't want to go into the weeds, um, but just kind of a 30,000 foot overview on where we stand with securing our city facilities.

21:11

Um, this is something that I brought up before.

21:13

Um, I understand there may have been some funds for libraries, um, but I want to talk specifically about like our rec centers, the Coliseum, something gardens.

21:22

Um, have we looked at additional security possibly?

21:26

So, uh council member, again, this is a discussion that we're happy to continue to have, and we can certainly um schedule a one-on-one with you if you'd like to get into some more details on the security policy.

21:37

As you know, we did uh recently adjust the security at the libraries.

21:42

We've moved away from a private security company to uh city employees.

21:45

We felt more comfortable with that approach.

21:47

We've had multiple discussions with the police department on uh how to handle the change in Florida law related to open carry.

21:54

I won't go into details here about how that's been handled, uh, but we're happy to uh continue the discussion on security.

22:00

We feel good about what we're doing.

22:02

Security is an area where you probably always could do more, you know, you have to balance all these things that we do, but we're happy to continue the discussion.

22:10

Thank you.

22:10

And I just, you know, my priority as a council member as an elected official is to ensure the safety of my constituents, and I just want to make sure that whatever city facility they're in, whether it be a uh place like City Hall or the municipal services building, I just want to make sure that our all of our employees feel that same safety that we feel when we come into these uh buildings.

22:28

But thank you, Chair, appreciate it.

22:29

Thank you, Councilmember Driscoll.

22:32

Thank you, and um thank you to those who have raised the question and the request regarding more funding for main streets.

22:41

Um I too had that on my on my budget priorities, had it for a while.

22:46

Um I brought it up when we did our um committee meeting for the budget cleanup.

22:53

This is um, you know, if we have four main street districts, $20,000 for each one is $80,000.

23:01

This is something that doesn't even have to be approved by city council.

23:05

This could just be done.

23:07

And considering that the prices that the costs have have gone up and our commitment has not, um, it's really it's a serious time to look at this from the administration's point of view.

23:22

I don't understand why we would have to do a new business item for something that could be done administratively.

23:28

It is so obvious that this is what's needed.

23:30

We heard from two out of the four just today, asking for help.

23:36

You have all kinds of different programs and features in um economic development and in the greenhouse, new things coming out, but we have to invest in what's working and help it to grow and strengthen that, especially right now.

24:06

Um some of these businesses, some of the districts are having a really hard time right now.

24:12

And we've got good people in place in every single one of those districts.

24:16

I am fully confident in their leadership.

24:19

We need to be supporting that.

24:20

We got to support what's working, or we're going to lose it.

24:24

The Grand Central District, if they don't have the support that they need next year, there's a good chance that they're not going to be able to do Halloween on Central.

24:34

And that's how it that's how serious it's gotten.

24:36

And that's a huge event.

24:41

So I mean, if the way that we have to make this happen is to have a drawn out process with a new business item and a committee discussion.

24:53

I mean, every council member up here understands what a main street district is.

25:00

And anyone who wants to take a deeper dive into it can talk to any of the four leaders to find out what they do with the very little money that we give them.

25:07

And I don't think there's going to be any problem with having support for that.

25:12

So why go off why why should we go through all of that when you all can just make this decision?

25:20

Doesn't have to be tonight.

25:22

I am okay with things the way that they are.

25:24

But there is money that can be that can be pulled over from the plans for the coming fiscal for this fiscal year in economic development that can be used to help out these districts that are asking us for support.

25:43

Why do we have to go through the a long process?

25:47

You don't have to go through a long process.

25:48

I mean, you're the legislative body, you appropriate funding.

25:51

You can make a motion right now.

26:05

It's ridiculous.

26:07

I mean, we're talking about $80,000.

26:15

So I wasn't, I wasn't going to do this.

26:19

This is supposed to be an easy one.

26:22

But we have people we have people who wrote to us.

26:25

We have someone who showed up to speak.

26:26

One of my colleagues spoke very eloquently about this needs.

26:43

So I'll make a motion to allocate $80,000 for $20,000 to go to each of the four main street districts for fiscal year 2026.

26:55

Second.

27:00

Second.

27:06

Mr.

27:06

Chair, could I ask a point of clarification?

27:08

Go ahead, Tom.

27:09

Um and maybe I'll make a recommendation too that might simplify.

27:14

Um council member, you're certainly within discretion to do that for simplification purposes.

27:21

It might be better to have maybe a separate resolution to appropriate resources from the general fund contingency in FY26.

27:31

That's just a suggestion that might simplify.

27:35

Um the way you've described it would require us to go back and change the ordinance and then bring the ordinance back for council to well.

27:47

Is if you just said you will do it.

27:52

That's the simplest way to handle this.

27:55

We we've made our recommendation, Councilmember.

27:58

This is where we're so you've recommended that you not support the main street districts any more than what we already have in the budget.

28:16

Chair, could I just from a logistics standpoint?

28:20

In terms of what Tom was saying, I I would recommend the it it's up to you how you want to go about that.

28:25

My recommendation is not related to that.

28:27

However, if the ordinance itself is going to change with these numbers, I would recommend that we take a recess if that's the will of council, uh, because we need to be more precise since it's in an ordinance itself.

28:40

Since it's not just a resolution, we need to make sure that we're looking at the right line items that you see the numbers in front of you.

28:47

That would for an ordinance especially of this nature, we would just need a minute to confer with administration and then make sure council is seeing a red line specifically so that everyone is clear on exactly how the ordinance is changing.

29:00

All right.

29:01

Well, you know what?

29:04

I'm not going to put my colleagues through that trouble of going through a recess.

29:08

We can have a discussion.

29:09

Trust me, this isn't over, but I will withdraw my motion.

29:21

Would you still like the floor, Councilmember?

29:23

I'm not trying to rush you just making sure I'm not moving forward.

29:26

No, that's all.

29:27

Thank you.

29:27

Thank you.

29:28

Councilmember Fixanders.

29:30

Thank you.

29:30

Um again, and thank you, Administrative Gerdis.

29:33

Yes, we have had this conversation several times and for several years.

29:37

Um, and so what um Tom has recommended, how soon can we go ahead and get that moving?

29:45

Because I know the original recourse I think I had was additional ten thousand, but then again, that was years ago.

29:50

So I don't know what the appropriate amount would be because it's unfortunate that um the executive director of my district can't afford to live in the district.

30:00

She had to find somewhere outside of her district because of that 55,000 uh dollar allotment per district.

30:07

So can you explain that process for me again?

30:11

Just so I'm um clear, uh council member, you're how quickly we could have a resolution to for council to consider is that what the question is?

30:20

I mean the next council meeting, so December 4th.

30:23

Okay, and we're looking at the 25,000 still.

30:27

Um, because again, like I said, the 10,000 was um recommended maybe four, five years ago.

30:34

Um so if we can get that, do I need to do a motion to have the resolution, Jackie?

30:39

Yeah, I would say council member what I would recommend again, not to be high maintenance, but because this is involves the budget.

30:46

I I would say if you're following what Mr.

30:49

Green recommended, you would vote on the budget cleanup ordinance itself and if and then vote separately on the resolution following that.

30:59

That's the procedural way to effectuate what Mr.

31:01

Green indicated.

31:02

Okay, thank you.

31:03

Okay.

31:04

Thank you.

31:05

That's what I'll I'll wait.

31:06

Thank you, Chair.

31:07

Thank you.

31:08

Councilmember Floyd.

31:09

I got two quick things.

31:10

One is uh I'm generally supportive of uh uh providing more resources to main streets specifically to do events like Halloween on Central and whatnot.

31:21

I'm very supportive of them.

31:22

I'm also very supportive of it coming from the economic development budget because we have other economic development things that I'm not a supportive of, which you're all aware of.

31:29

Uh made this point before, so uh, you know, we can have that conversation later on.

31:33

That's my first thing.

31:34

My second thing is though, um I guess I'm gonna say this.

31:40

How do I say it?

31:41

Uh it's just interesting what people come up here to request, and then we immediately start amending things for.

31:48

And uh, you know, it's a business districts like that I'm supportive of, but you know, we've had a lot of other people up here asking for things like this, and uh we don't jump at it right away, and I think it reflects our values.

32:00

And so um I say that just in this context, so that it's said out loud, but I am supportive of uh moving the economic development budget around ultimately in the end.

32:12

I'll leave it there.

32:13

Thanks.

32:14

Thank you.

32:15

Um Liz, I have one quick question, and it's total almost clerical.

32:22

On page 16 of the presentation, underwater resources.

32:26

There's one parenthesis, but there's not another.

32:29

I'm just wondering if that's a negative number or a yeah, that is a rescission.

32:32

Sorry.

32:33

Is it a negative number or a positive number?

32:36

It's a negative number.

32:38

Um and what was the number during first reading?

32:43

Because I know you said that that that number changed from first reading to second reading, right?

32:48

Yeah, so there's there's two pieces in there.

32:50

One is a rescission where we're doing a technical correction of um sorry, and I need to bring that.

32:58

No, you're good.

32:58

I caught you off guard.

32:59

But um, I think it was the amount that we were rolling over went down because the amount that they when we did we ran the reports, the amount that they had left was less, so we reduced the appropriation part that back uh that would offset the okay.

33:12

So it's the role that's the rollover into 26, that's lowering.

33:16

Yep.

33:16

Okay, great.

33:17

All right.

33:17

Um okay, just quickly on the the topic at hand.

33:23

Uh I council member Floyd, I I think kind of hit it.

33:27

If we're gonna have a conversation about amending the economic development budget, I think that's where I would agree that a new business item to have that conversation about what we what we rescind that from because if we're gonna because the budget's set, if we're gonna move 80,000, we take 80,000 away from something to move it to that.

33:50

We're gonna have a conversation about what we're gonna take it away from.

33:53

Uh the half part, the other half of that resolution using um fund balance, I'm not willing to have.

34:02

Uh we're 10 million in change spend down of uh fund balance.

34:08

I'm not willing to have that conversation.

34:10

If we want to move around the economic development budget, and we think priority should go to this rather than something else, I welcome that conversation, and we can do that, and we can do it at any time.

34:20

And so I just wanted to make my my two cents clear.

34:24

Uh I I don't I I don't know where that lands, depending on what you know, certainly if we had that conversation, because I can't make the motion, um, but spending where we move the 80,000 dollars is important.

34:38

Where where we move the 80,000 from is a very important conversation.

34:43

And so um anyway, I just wanted to thank you, Councilmember Floyd.

34:49

Uh Councilmember Fixanders.

34:51

Thank you.

34:51

So, with that being said, um, I will submit a new business item to have that conversation.

34:56

Tom, is there any way that I can have that conversation with you?

35:01

Because I also want to talk to the other executives of the other districts to kind of see where they are as far as the dollar amount is concerned.

35:08

Because right now we just came up with the number um on the diet.

35:11

So I I really would like to have that conversation with the other executive directors prior to me submitting the new business item because I do want to have a dollar amount in there.

35:21

So I will commit um to submitting the new business item after I talk to the other um districts.

35:29

So, with that being said, I just want to put it out there that I'll that's something that I'm gonna take on.

35:34

Okay, thank you, Chair.

35:35

Thank you.

35:35

Councilmember Gibbons.

35:36

Thanks, Chair.

35:37

Since when the sun shined, just wanted to let everyone know I have submitted a new business item to Janie, so just waiting on that one to be flushed out.

35:43

Um, but there is a draft out there, so just wanted to let that be known.

35:46

Thank you.

35:47

Thank you.

35:47

Councilmember Driscoll.

35:49

Thank you.

35:50

As the current chair of the economic and workforce development committee, and seeing that this new business item would fit into that uh committee referral.

36:00

Uh just wanted to give a heads up that um there is a meeting on January 22nd, and I have another item for discussion during that one already set, but there is absolutely room to have this conversation.

36:16

So just wanted to give everyone a preview.

36:23

Um, that I will prioritize this and we will get it done.

36:27

Thank you.

36:28

Thank you.

36:28

Councilmember Fix Sanders.

36:30

Quick question.

36:30

So, since there's a MBI draft, we don't know what the draft is.

36:34

I don't want to duplicate work.

36:35

Right.

36:36

So, you know, it would help if we knew what the draft was before we actually decided on that, but just to put out there that there's one in the works.

36:43

I don't know what that means.

36:45

Thank you, Chair.

36:46

Thank you.

36:49

Councilmember Givens.

36:50

It helps.

36:51

Um, I can state that I have respectfully asked that we have a more robust conversation about where we go from here as it relates to our main street districts, and so that conversation can include finding funds.

37:05

Um again, I'm very open to how we you know submit this.

37:09

Um, so that I'm glad we're having this conversation now.

37:11

Um, but it's basically a broad conversation in general about how we support our main street districts moving forward.

37:16

Thank you, Chair.

37:17

All right, thank you.

37:19

Okay, council members.

37:21

I'd entertain a motion for approval on D1 second approval.

37:24

We have a motion and a second on D1.

37:27

Seeing as no other council members wishing to speak, clerk.

37:30

Could you please open the machine for voting?

37:32

Council members, please enter your votes.

37:33

Seeing as all present council members have voted, clerk, please tally and announce your vote.

37:37

Mr.

37:38

Chair, the motion to approve agenda item D1 passes unanimously with councilmember Harding being absent.

37:43

Okay, thank you.

37:44

Now we're gonna go into our second open forum.

37:46

Clerk, do we have any speakers?

37:50

Okay, we'll go into announcements and adjournments.

37:52

Council members, any announcements?

37:54

Councilmember Floyd.

37:55

Happy Thanksgiving.

37:58

Councilmember Gibbons.

37:59

Happy Thanksgiving.

38:01

Okay, well, listen, Councilmember members, I appreciate the discussion.

38:04

I just also I know I preemptively did it because uh to be quite honest with you, I forgot we had a Monday meeting.

38:10

And uh just again, happy Thanksgiving.

38:12

Please everybody enjoy their break.

38:14

For those of us that have kids at home, uh, I'm sorry, but we're blessed to be able to do it.

38:18

Uh and just everybody I'm very thankful for you.

38:21

And so as you enjoy this week, just know that the GERTIS family is very thankful for everything you do for this city, and that includes everybody that's listening and all of our employees and our and our residents, uh, we're very thankful for all of you.

38:33

If there's nothing else for the good of the order, city council is adjourned.

38:36

Thank you, everybody.

38:36

Thank you.

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Summary of Proceedings

City Council Meeting Summary - November 24, 2025

The City of St. Petersburg City Council convened on November 24, 2025, to review the budget cleanup ordinance and address public comments regarding main street district funding. The meeting proceeded with a unanimous vote to approve the agenda in the absence of Councilmember Harding. No speakers appeared during the public comment periods, though several council members engaged in a significant debate during the discussion item regarding increasing annual appropriations for main street business districts. The meeting concluded with announcements and a holiday greeting.

Consent Calendar

  • Agenda approval motion passed unanimously (all present members voted), with Councilmember Harding absent.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Nicole Waters (President, Edge District): Representing the Edge District, along with colleagues from neighboring districts, she represented hundreds of small businesses and thousands of residents. She expressed enthusiastic support for the current district system as a "force multiplier" for economic vitality and safety. She respectfully and explicitly requested an increase in annual city support for the districts from $55,000 to $75,000 per district to accommodate rising costs.
  • Councilmember Corinne Gibbons (District 7): Expressed full support for Nicole Waters' voice and the necessity of funding for main street districts. While not a public speaker, she articulated that the city depends on these districts just as they depend on the city, noting that the $55,000 allocation is the same as it has been for five years.
  • Councilmember Gina Driscoll: Expressed full confidence in the leadership of the four main street districts and strong support for the request to increase funding. She emphasized that not supporting these districts could lead to the loss of key events like Halloween on Central. She moved to allocate $80,000 ($20,000 per district) for FY26, arguing the decision should be administrative rather than requiring a new business item, though she subsequently withdrew the motion to allow for procedural precision.
  • Councilmember Richie Floyd: Expressed general support for providing more resources to main street districts, specifically citing the value of events like Halloween on Central. He stated his preference that funding be redirected from the economic development budget to avoid using fund balance. He also cautioned against the council immediately amending budget items upon public request, noting the need to reflect on the council's values regarding such processes.
  • Councilmember Deborah Fake Sanders: Expressed support for the conversation regarding additional funding. She highlighted that the current $55,000 allotment is insufficient, noting the executive director of her district cannot afford to live in the district due to the low budget. She committed to submitting a new business item to determine appropriate amounts after consulting with other district leaders.
  • Councilmember Hopley Gurtis: Expressed a desire for a broad, robust conversation regarding the future support of main street districts and was open to finding funds from various sources via a new business item.

Discussion Items

  • Ordinance 621H (Year-end Appropriation Adjustments): Liz McCoskey presented the second reading of the ordinance for FY25 and FY26 budget reconciliation. She reported that the estimated net impact to the general fund balance is a decrease of $14.429 million, an improvement of approximately $1.7 million over the first reading due to additional revenue. Specific changes included a decrease in fund balance used for FY25 to $4.215 million (down from $5.68 million) and a $11.5 million rollover request for FY26. Project changes included the Coliseum Ballroom Floor Project being renamed to the Coliseum Improvement Project and a reclassification of a police department item from an operating expense to a Capital Improvement Project (CIP).
  • Main Street District Funding Debate: Following public comments, the council debated moving $80,000 to the four main street districts. Councilmember Driscoll's motion was withdrawn after legal counsel suggested a recess was necessary to amend the ordinance precisely. Councilmember Sanders agreed to draft a new business item. Councilmember Floyd and the Mayor emphasized that if funds were moved, the source (likely reallocating from other economic development priorities) and the method (resolution vs. ordinance) required distinct conversations. The Mayor explicitly stated he was not willing to have a conversation about using fund balance for this purpose.

Key Outcomes

  • Approval of Ordinance 621H: The motion to approve agenda item D1 (Ordinance 621H) passed unanimously with Councilmember Harding absent.
  • No Immediate Allocation Approved: No immediate funding increase was voted on; the council deferred the decision to allocate funds to future action via a proposed new business item.
  • New Business Item Proposed: Councilmember Sanders and Councilmember Gibbons (District 7) indicated they are in the process of submitting or have drafted new business items to address the main street funding request. Councilmember Driscoll noted the Economic and Workforce Development Committee will have a meeting on January 22 to discuss this.
  • Procedural Direction: The council agreed to treat the funding request carefully, with the Mayor suggesting a separate resolution from the general fund contingency for FY26 might be the appropriate procedural path, distinct from the cleanup ordinance.

Meeting Transcript

Welcome to the City of St. Petersburg City Council meeting. Your elected officials are Mayor Ken Welch, District 1, and Council Chair, Hopley Gurtis. District 2, Brandy Gabbert. District 3, Mike Harding, District 4, and Council Vice Chair, Lasseth Hanowitz. District 5, Deborah Fake Sanders. District 6, Gina Driscoll. District 7, Corey Gibbons Jr. And District 8, Richie Floyd. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the November 24th, 2025 City Council meeting. If we could do a roll call, please, Clerk. Hannawitz? Here. Here. Gibbons? Here. Oh wait. Here it is. Here. Here. Okay. If everybody could please join me in standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. A Pledge of Allegiance. One nation under God. Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Please be seated. Okay, Council members, we have an agenda in front of us. I'll entertain a motion to move approval. Second. We have a motion and a second on the agenda. Seeing there's no other council members wishing to speak, clerk. Could you please open the machine for voting? Thank you. Council members, please enter your votes. Seeing as all present council members have voted. Clerk, please tally and announce the vote. The motion to approve the agenda passes unanimously with council member Harding being absent. Okay, thank you. We're now we're gonna move into open forum. Clerk, could you please read the rules? If you wish to address any council on subject other subjects other than public hearing or quasi judicial items listed on the agenda, please sign up with the clerk. Only the individual wishing to speak may sign the open forum sheet. Only city residents, owners of property, business owners in the city or their employees may speak. All issues discussed on the open forum must be limited to issues related to the city of St. Petersburg government. If you are speaking to an item on the agenda, you may only speak once during the open form or when the item is up on the agenda. In order to provide an opportunity for all citizens to address council, each individual will be given three minutes to speak, and after which the microphone will be muted. If you wish to address city council through the Zoom meeting, you must use a raise hand feature button in the Zoom app or enter star nine on your phone at the time the agenda item is addressed.

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