Good evening, humans and dogs.

I'd like to call to order the city council meeting of June 30th, 2026.

Clerk, please call the roll.

Deputy Mayor Bushnell.

Present.

Councilmember Diaz.

Here.

Councilmember Heinz.

Here.

Councilmember Palmer.

Here.

Councilmember Rumba.

Here.

Councilmember Sidalga.

Here.

Councilmember Scott.

Absent Councilmember Walker.

Here.

Count Mayor Ibsen.

Here.

Please join me in listening to the land acknowledgement and flag salute led by Councilmember Walker, followed by a moment of silence.

We gratefully honor and acknowledge that we rest on the traditional lands of the Pewala people where they make their home and speak the Lachutsi language.

Please stand for the flag salute and remain standing for a moment of silence.

We have a modification to the agenda this evening to add two letters to the Washington State Recreation and Conservation Office in support of Parks Tacoma's grant requests for various projects under the consent agenda.

We have a motion for us now for consideration.

Are there any questions or comments?

Deputy Mayor?

I have none.

Okay.

All those in favor of amending the agenda.

Please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

I was supposed to say nay.

Motion is declared adopted.

Are there any additional modifications to the cons to the agenda this evening?

Seeing none, we'll move on to the consent agenda.

We have the consent agenda now before us before consideration.

I move to adopt the consent agenda, including resolution number 41949 and the final reading of ordinance number 29102.

Second.

Moved and seconded.

Any questions, comments, or corrections.

Seeing none of those in favor of adopting the consent agenda, please signify by saying aye.

Moving on to proclamations, recognitions, presentations, and announcements.

Our first item is proclaiming Tuesday, June 30th as honorary pet mayor Sembuka and Deputy Mayor Kai Day.

And we have one ceremonial tonight.

Uh for honorary pet mayor and pet deputy mayor proclamation.

I would like to invite uh Michelle Gilletti, owner of Pit Mayor Sambuka, and Anne Dubois, owner of Pet Deputy Mayor Kai, to the podium for the swearing in.

If you'll uh please walk your way over there, we'll conduct the ceremony.

Please raise your right paws or hands and repeat after me.

I Sambuka.

I Sambuca.

Do solemnly swear or affirm.

Do you solemnly swear or affirm?

That I will support the postitution of the United States.

That I'll support the prostitution of the United States.

And the prostitution of the state of Washington.

And the prostitution of the state of Washington.

That I'll comply with the city charter.

That I'll comply with the city charter.

And all ordinances of the city.

And all ordinances of the city.

That I will faithfully and impartially.

That I will faithfully and impartially discharge the duties.

Discharge the duties of the office of pet mayor.

Of the office of pet mayor.

According to law.

According to law.

And to the best of my ability.

And to the best of my ability.

And that I will resist the urge.

And I will resist the urge.

To chase squirrels and polity all day long.

To chase squirrels and all day long.

So help me dog.

So help me dog.

Congratulations.

And now this is the fun part of the job.

Please uh let's make this official.

Okay.

Sign his name.

Yes, of course.

Paw Prince.

Do I need a POA?

Sure.

We're gonna do this a little bit out of order.

So if you want to say a few words, uh please feel free to do so.

Oh go ahead.

Hey, you want me to do this?

Please, go.

Ladies and gentlemen, fellow canines and my beloved humans.

On behalf of myself, Buca, I would like to extend a heartfelt thank for all of this incredible honor of being named dog mayor for the day.

I accept this role with humility, enthusiasm, and a firm commitment to extra walks and expanded treats and access for all.

The victory is not mine alone.

It belongs to every dog who has ever walked or waited patiently by the door, who has protected their home from suspicious squirrels, or who has offered unconditional love without ever asking for anything more than a belly rub in return.

I would like to also introduce my trusted deputy mayor Kai.

A proud rescue, with a big heart and a watchful eye, and just enough stubbornness to keep City Hall honest.

Kai has made his mission to stand up for those who don't have a voice.

His platform is simple but powerful.

No animal should ever be hungry, abandoned, mistreated, or abused.

Kai believes strongly in responsible and compassionate pet ownership.

He encourages all humans to learn to adopt when possible.

And to support local shelters through donations, volunteering and advocacy.

He's living proof that rescue dogs don't just find homes, they help make them better.

As mayor, I promise to focus on issues that matter most: longer park walks, fair and equitable distribution of treats, increased funding for squeaky toy research and durability, and a zero tolerance policy on vacuum cleaners during nap time.

Together, Deputy Mayor Kai and I will work to ensure that all dogs, big and small, young and old, have access to clean water bowls, safe homes, and plenty of love.

To my fellow dogs, stay loyal, stay curious, and never underestimate the power of a well-timed tag tailwag.

To the humans, thank you for your love, your care, and your snacks.

Please remember, we are always watching, especially when food is involved.

Now, if you'll excuse us, we have important mandates and duties to attend to.

Kai will oversee the neighborhood security, and I'll be conducting a very thorough inspection of treat supply, followed by a nap.

Thank you again for this honor.

We will serve with pride, compassion, and just a little bit of drool.

Respectfully, Mayor Buka and Deputy Mayor Kai.

Thank you.

And we went a little out of order to accommodate the real heroes of the meeting, but we actually do have a couple proclamations for you to accept.

Before you do so, I'm gonna read the proclamation and then we'll give the council the opportunity.

He does.

After you sign, of course.

Oh, okay.

Um, thank you.

This is a great honor.

And I want to talk about Kai's backstory because everybody keeps asking me.

Um, my previous dog had died a month before I got Kai, and because, well, that may seem like a short time to replace a dog, I walk dogs for a living, and I go into parks and in isolated places, so having a visual deterrent to coyotes and raccoons, and unfortunately, sometimes people who are having mental health issues is just a wise decision for me.

So I went looking for dogs, and um the shelter has a lot of huskies and chihuahuas and pit bulls, and they didn't meet my need, so I went looking on Craig's list, and um I know never get a dog off of Craig's list, never get a dog off of Craigslist.

You can see what happens, but there he was.

So I sent in an inquiry in a week past, and I got no response.

And then on Tuesday, September 3rd, 2024, I got a text.

Are you still interested in the puppy?

If you are come now, and I'm like, Well, I need an address.

So, Graham.

I drove up to Graham.

It was a um Safeway parking lot.

First red flag, and then this person showed up with this puppy, and I was kind of looking at him, trying to interact with him, and he had a huge lump on his face.

And they got in their car and drove off.

And I'm like, Oh, I guess you're coming home with me now.

So I loaded him into the car, and he didn't say make a sound.

I don't know what he was thinking.

I was going, did I just make the biggest mistake in my life?

Because he was an unknown, and he got him home, and my daughter and I started checking him out, and he was covered in gashes and wounds, and there had been evidence of a wire or something wrapped around his neck.

The next morning he spent 12, 14 hours at Blue Pearl.

Dr.

Perry is here because I am a firm believer that you give credit what credit is too, and we always talk about and we honor our first responders.

Um the police, fire, we honor them.

Nobody honors our first responders for the animals.

Dr.

Perry, Dr.

Kwan from Tacoma Animal Shelter, I mean animal hospital.

I called and asked if animal control would be here because they went up and investigated and couldn't find anything.

So they to those people, and then a month after he still got scars and shaved and all of this stuff, and he looks desperate.

And um my church was having a blessing of the pets because it was St.

Francis Feast Day, and so I wasn't sure, but I asked Father Paul if it would be okay if I brought him, and Father Paul said, Yeah, we'll see.

If you can't handle it, then you can leave.

If you can handle it, then yay.

Kai, what all of you have seen today is what he was.

He started hugging people and interacting with people, and I went this is who he really is.

He's an affectionate dog.

We just need to give him a chance.

That changed my perceptions of a traumatized rescue and what could be done.

And from there, it's required this extraordinary community effort of people helping me, of people believing in Kai.

So these people saw the potential in Kai, and I know maybe I shouldn't be doing this, but I am going to do this.

Um, it's taken a while for him to get where he is, and you know, he's finally, we had a breakthrough a couple of weeks ago, where a dog came walking towards us, and it was lunging and snapping and snarling, and instead of getting on his toes and doing the same thing, he looked to me to save him, to rescue him, to protect him.

You know, there is a lesson in that one about self-saving.

Anyway, because of that, because of the community, helping me with him, I have an ask.

Um, and what it is is education.

Just like the DARE program.

My I have a 26-year-old granddaughter who still talks about the DARE program and what it did for her.

There are programs out there, we don't need to invent the wheel.

Um, we don't need to ask the Tacoma School Board to spend years debating new classes.

There are curricula like Wagtown and Paws, kids who care that already exist.

They teach children that animals are sentient beings.

They do it through literature in digital modules that carry zero life animal liability or allergy issues.

So is deputy pet mayor Kai is asking the city council to please consider three simple cost-tree policy actions to scale these existing programs.

The first one is the environment pipeline, which is integrating these pre-made animal empathy modules into the environmental health lessons.

The city already funds and teaches directly sends directly to this public schools.

The deputy mayor's literacy challenge using the public platform to push literature-based humane education books and public elementary schools, and the TPU community outreach to insert basic animal care laws and low-cost bag neuter resources leaflets into quarterly Tacoma public utility bill mailings to educate the adults alongside the kids to ask an adult why they want to adopt a pet and then get a pet that will fit their family.

I recently had a lady stop me on the street and asked me what breed Kai was.

She said the reason was because he was gorgeous, and he would match her decor.

All the reasons to get a pet because it matches your decor.

There were no words.

I told her that he was a Norwegian squirrel herder.

I think she believed me.

So thank you for listening.

Thank you, Father Paul, Dr.

Perry, Dr.

Kwan, for looking past his scars, his trauma to see his potential.

And I'm asking the city council to help us look at the potential of our youth to change things because the animal shelter and animal control cannot do this on their own.

They need us as a community to get involved in teaching our children, I think is a first great step, and on Kai's behalf, I thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for your beautiful words, both of you.

Um, so with that, I'm going to read the proclamation that you both get, and then we'll have some uh commentary from the city council as well.

Whereas the Humane Society for Tacoma and Pierce County in partnership with the City of Tacoma held an election and fundraiser in June 2026 for Tacoma's new honorary pet mayor and deputy mayor, and whereas more than 50 dogs and cats vied for the top spot and share their policy agendas, most of which most of which called for more treats, more naps, and more cuddling, and whereas in a nail-biting race, Italian Greyhound Sambuka sees the lead as our pet mayor, touting his management experience, squirrel monitoring skills, and paw tea attitude.

And whereas close behind Sembuka, a dog with a rough start in life named Kai took top spot for pet deputy mayor with his love of hugging and a heart of gold despite the hardships he's faced.

And whereas Sembuka and Kai embody the joy and grit of the city.

And share their message of love and appreciation for the work of the Humane Society for Tacoma Pierce County and their wish that we never give up on those we need or in ourselves.

Now therefore, I, Andrews Ibsen, Mayor of the City of Tacoma, on behalf of the City Council, do here by Paul Claim, Tuesday, June 30th, 2026, as honorary pet mayor Sambuka and Deputy Mayor Kai Day in the City of Tacoma, and urge all residents to join us in applauding Pet Mayor Sambuka and Deputy Mayor Kai's tremendous work to help raise nearly $12,000 to support low-cost spay and neuter programs at the Tacoma Humane Society for Tacoma Pierce County.

Tacoma's future is looking bright in the paws of these two champions.

And so with that, are the members of the uh city council who'd like to comment.

Council for Hines.

Yes, uh, thank you, Ms.

Mayor Ibsen, and thank you both to Kai and Sabuka for being here today.

I'm so excited.

I just want to really quickly acknowledge we're having a transition of power from the felines and Mayor Nacho's time to the canines.

I will be honest, I'm a partisan for the canines.

I have a canine in my own house.

And though I've done lots of good things for felines in my life and like even Caddy Clawing and have lots of respect for feline party members, I'm very happy that we're back under the control of the canine party as we're moving forward.

Um I just wanted to say, first of all, thank you for coming out here.

Thank you for putting your animals up.

As someone who's run for office before, I know how how difficult it is to choose to put yourself into the spotlight, and you know, draw some positive attention, hopefully, to yourselves and your family.

Um, but really I think also drawing some positive attention to low-cost Spaniard programs at the main society.

I mean, one of the biggest things that we've found in my work on animal issues for the last couple years is we love our animals, which is very clear by both of you here today, but that we have too many animals to care for in this community right now.

And our humane society and our animal control department are struggling under the load of caring for animals.

And so spaniel programs like this supports.

Um, we raised $14,000 last year, $12,000 this year, um, is really how we're gonna help address um some of the animal overpopulation issues we have there in this community.

So thank you for that.

Um I also just want to thank you for sharing your inspirational uh animal stories here.

I think these are great indications of kind of the love we have for animals, the desire for more humane treatment for the animals in our community, and you know, the power of community.

Right?

Because we both Kai and Sabuka are only here because of the power of their supporters' willingness to put them in this position.

So I look forward to their platform on more naps, fewer squirrels, and uh a dog park in every neighborhood, Councilman Romaba.

You should probably talk you should probably talk to the mayor and the deputy mayor about that, see what they can do for you.

Um Thank you, Mayor.

Thank you, and uh thank you.

A big thank you to all of your very real substantive work on animal protection policies and advocating for the humane society and for pet owners about Tacoma as well, as well as uh as well as their critters.

That's uh it's not lost on us, and uh thank you for your work and for everyone who's advocated for uh these responsible policies uh and and obviously to the two best boys in the room as well, because of that saying.

Uh so with that, seeing no further council comments, please step forward to accept your proclamations, and please one more round of applause.

Right there.

Yeah, you think about that.

All right, so I'm sweet.

Oh, okay.

One two, three.

Best meeting ever.

Okay, move.

Unless we have our clerk.

Moving on to public comment.

Clerk, please read.

This is a time set aside for public comment.

Speakers are asked to identify the specific legislation they wish to address.

Okay.

Do we have anyone sign in for public comment, Clerk?

Okay.

No one is showing up for virtual public comment.

Going once.

Going twice.

All right.

Public comment is declared codes.

Moving on to the regular agenda.

Appointments.

Item number seven.

Clerk, please read.

Resolution 41950, a resolution appointing, reappointing, and reassigning individuals to the City Events and Recognitions Committee.

I move to adopt resolution number 41950.

Second.

Moving and second, I'd like to call on Councilmember Diaz.

Thank you.

Um Mayor.

At the June 9th, 2026 Economic Development Committee meeting, the committee reviewed applications and conducted interviews and recommended the appointment, reappointment, and reassignment of the following individuals to the city events and recognitions committee.

Pratty Goyel, Kinesha Johnson, Jerry Rice, and Kanoi Ho.

Kione Ho.

Okay.

Are those your comments, sir?

That is my comment.

I would love for people to adopt the resolution with those appointments.

Okay.

Um welcome anyone making that motion.

Sure.

Is there a motion?

I already heard of the motion.

Okay, moved and seconded.

And thank you for your comments, Chair.

Any further council comments?

Are there any appointees here in the room with us?

All right.

Uh why don't you stand and be recognized?

Sure, sure.

All right.

Well, um, are there any additional council questions or comments?

Seeing none, all those in favor of adopting resolution number four one nine five zero, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Resolution 41951, a resolution appointing, reappointing, and reassigning individuals to the planning commission.

I move to adopt resolution number 41951.

Second.

Moved and seconded.

I'd like to call on Chair Walker.

Thank you.

Mayor, at the June 10th, 2026 infrastructure planning and sustainability committee meeting.

The committee conducted interviews and recommended the appointment, reappointment, and reassignment of the following individuals to the planning commission.

Aaron Anderson, Lyle Cruz, Anthony Steele, and Christopher Carnes.

Thank you, Chair Walker.

Are there any council questions or comments?

Are there any appointees in the room?

All right.

Well, thank you for stepping up, those who are listening.

All those in favor of adopting resolution number 41950, please signify by saying aye.

Resolution is declared adopted.

Moving on to purchase resolutions.

Item nine, clerk, please read.

Resolution 41952, a resolution awarding a contract to waste management of Washington Inc.

and the amount of 12 million dollars plus applicable taxes for recycling services for an initial contract term of five years with the option to renew for three additional five-year periods.

I move to adopt resolution or four one nine five two.

Second.

Move and second.

Yes, uh, I see Andy in the back of the room.

I have a question for him.

Uh would just be so just as a is this a waste management currently has our contract for co-mingle, and this is just an extension of the contract, or is this a new provider we're looking at?

Uh this is the current contract.

Waste management's the current contract holder.

Okay.

And this is and this is for the solid waste picks up the blue bin for my house, and then they take it to waste management.

They're the ones who process it on the back end.

Yes.

On the port of Tacoma there, material will still go to the same location and process uh the materials before it goes to market.

Perfect.

Thank you.

Those are my questions, Mr.

Mayor.

Thank you.

Seeing no further questions, all those in favor of adopting resolution number four one nine five two.

Please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Supposed to say no.

Resolution is declared adopted.

Moving on to resolutions.

Item 10.

This item will also cover item 12.

Clerk, please read.

Resolution 41953, a resolution authorizing the execution of a collective bargaining agreement with the Tacoma Firefighters Union Local 31, retroactive to January 1st, 2026 through December 31st, 2028.

I move to adopt resolution number 41953.

Is there a second?

Alright, move and second.

I'd like to call on Dylan Carlson.

Good evening, Mayor Ibsen and members of the City Council.

I am Dylan Carlson, Labor Relations Division Manager.

I have one resolution and an ordinance to present this evening.

Resolution 41953 authorizes execution of a collective bargaining agreement negotiated with the Tacoma Firefighters Union Local 31.

The agreement is for three years and covers approximately 444 full-time equivalent positions.

The agreement provides for wage increases in each year.

Retroactive to January 1, 2026, an increase of 3% will be provided.

Effective January 1st, 2027 and January 1st, 2028.

The wage increase will be based on an amount equal to 100 percent of the increase in the consumer price index for urban wage earners and clerical workers, the CPIW, Seattle Tacoma Bellevue area with a minimum increase of 2% and a maximum increase of 4%.

Other changes to the agreement include retroactive to January 1st, 2026, fire lieutenants and deputy fire marshals assigned as fire investigators will receive an applied rate of two and one-half percent of base pay.

The agreement provides for an increase effective January 1st, 2027 to the pre-tax employer match to employee deferred compensation contributions from 230 to 250 dollars and effective July 1st, 2027.

The pre-tax match will be based on any combination of employee pre-tax and or after tax contributions.

Effective January 1, 2027, eligible employees may receive reimbursement up to six hundred dollars per calendar year for advanced cancer screening procedures not covered by the city's standard medical plan.

Fire communication center staff not assigned to day shift will move to a 42-hour work week.

Implementation of this new schedule will be effective upon a mutually agreed date.

Tacoma Fire Department will discontinue providing clothing allowances to fire prevention staff who are also provided in uniform, and the agreement includes various housekeeping changes and the incorporation of a previously signed letters of understanding into the agreement.

Finally, ordinance 29113 will provide for the implementation of the provisions included in the agreement negotiated with Tacoma Firefighters Union local 31.

The ordinance also provides for a general wage increase of 3% retroactive to January 1, 2026 for members of the professional public safety management association for classifications in the fire department per the terms of their collective bargaining agreement.

I would be happy to answer any questions.

Thank you, Dylan.

Are there any council questions?

All right, seeing none, all those in favor of adopting resolution number 41953.

Please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those supposed to say no, the resolution is declared adopted.

Moving on to final reading of ordinances, item 11, Clerk, please read.

Ordinance 29112, an ordinance amending chapter 1.12 of the municipal code relating to the compensation plan to implement changes to non-represented classifications and rates of pay to reflect the organizational structure.

This item is presented last week.

Are there any additional council questions or comments?

Seeing none, clerk please call the roll.

Deputy Mayor Bushnell.

Aye.

Councilmember Diaz.

Aye.

Councilmember Hines.

Aye.

Councilmember Palmer.

Aye.

Councilmember Rumba.

Aye.

Councilmember Sidalga?

Aye.

Councilmember Scott?

Aye.

Councilmember Walker.

Aye.

Mayor Ibsen.

Aye.

The ordinance is declared passed.

Item 12.

Clerk, please read.

Ordinance 29113, an ordinance amending chapter 1.12 of the municipal code relating to the compensation plan to implement rates of pay and compensation for employees represented by the Tacoma Firefighters Union Local 31 and the Professional Public Safety Management Association.

This item was just presented earlier in the meeting.

Are there any additional council questions or comments?

Seeing none, this ordinance will be set over for final reading next week.

Moving on to unfinished business.

Is there any unfinished business?

Seeing none, city manager, do you have a report this evening?

Mayor Ibsen, no report for you tonight.

Thank you for our report.

All right.

Moving on to comments and committee reports of the city council.

I'd like to start by calling on Chair Rumbaugh from the community vitality and safety committee.

Thank you, Mayor.

Just I have our um report out from our June 30th, 2026 CBS Community Vitality and Safety Committee meeting.

Um we can meet convened twice since the last report.

The committee met on May 28th with an agenda including an informational briefing on improving outcomes with system-based advocates, providing an in-depth look at how court appointed advocates improve outcomes for victims in domestic violent cases.

The committee also met on June 11th with an agenda including an informational briefing on the results of the juvenile justice task force, which provided guidance on a new juvenile justice facility to replace the aging Raymond Hall.

Our next meeting will be on Thursday, July 9th.

The committee will receive an informational briefing on the collaboration that is taking place across the county to launch a unified regional approach to homelessness in Pierce County.

That meeting will occur in room 248 of the Tacoma Municipal Building.

Virtual attendance options will be available for the public.

Thank you.

That includes my report.

Thank you, Councilmember.

Are there any additional council questions or comments?

Councilmember Diaz.

Thank you, Mayor.

I wanted to remind folks that today is June 30th, which means that tomorrow is July 1st.

And we are raising the pride flags here in Tacoma.

For those interested, the Rainbow Center will be hosting a pride flag raising tomorrow in the G lot of the Tacoma Dome as we raise the pride flag over the Tacoma Dome at 9 30.

And then TPU will be also hosting their pride flag raising in front of their headquarters at 11.

So if you're able to, please come by.

The queer city staff is also hosting a little gathering at the TPU building after that raising.

So for folks who are able to stay and gather with staff, they would um love to see you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And that is for council members or members of the public.

And everybody's welcome.

Wonderful.

Thank you, Councilmember.

Deputy Mayor.

Thank you, Mayor.

I just actually had a question for our chair of the CVS committee, Councilmember, real quick.

Um I had heard that there was some uh you guys had conversations about the code uh updates.

Um, and uh it was my understanding that it's recommended to go to not recommended, but um being forward to the study session, is that correct?

I just wanted to clarify when that might come before.

Yeah, you're talking about the IMPC.

Yes, correct.

Okay, so the code um compliance update.

Um, yeah, we're gonna bring it.

We didn't want to make a decision.

We want to bring it to study session.

We think everyone should have an opportunity to decide what we would decide what would be the level for fines and how long you would go before you would um for come you know, repeat offenders, like people not repeat offenders, but repeat um people who continue to to you know not follow what our code compliance is set up.

So we wanted to bring it to everyone, and so it was sort of agreed to that we just bring it forward to study session.

Okay.

Uh, do we have uh an idea of when that's gonna be yet?

I don't know if I I can ask later.

I just no, no, it's a really good question.

I don't have an answer for it, so I think I should talk to staff and find out for you.

So thank you for bringing that up.

Yeah, thank you.

Yeah, you're welcome.

All right.

Councilmember Hines.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

And I didn't see in the script, so I guess I'll just take the opportunity to say just as a reminder, though you may hear them, fireworks are illegal in the city of Tacoma, though we are celebrating the 250th anniversary of the founding of the United States of America.

I'd encourage you to do that without fireworks here this year, July 4th.

Um there are going to be many opportunities to go out to um either the Raineers or uh Freedom Fest.

No, it's it's called Freedom Festival, Summer Blast down on the down on the waterfront, and many other places that you can watch fireworks in a professional setting where you're not worried about losing a digit or setting something on fire.

So, as a reminder, fireworks legal state of Tacoma, encourage you to get out and celebrate the country without fireworks this year and uh be responsible.

Fireworks reports.com.

Oh, and then there's fireworks reports.com uh that'll there's what information on the city's website if you'd like to report illegal use of fireworks.

It's available there.

Um but I just save the trouble and choose not to use fireworks on your for your personal use this uh July 4th.

Very well said.

Thank you, Councilmember Heinz.

Any additional council comments?

All right, seeing none.

Is there a motion to adjourn?

Moving to adjourn.

Second.

Moving second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

I'm supposed to say no.

We are adjourned.