0:52 I'd like to call people would like to call to order the hearing of the administrative board or something.
1:01 Um, and as I mentioned, um, if you have an orange if you don't have done so already, comment and sign in and then I'll just please speak into the mic as it's being recorded for the records.
1:20 Um, please write it to be sworn in.
1:25 That's just your secretary.
1:27 Would you please call for rolls?
1:30 Oh, the members present determined to have it.
1:33 Yes, Chris is on crane.
1:35 Venice Williams and Devon over dinner, excuse me.
1:38 So I'm gonna move forward to Julie Randall's here.
1:54 Secker, please do the first case.
1:57 Easy keys number 26 dash.
2:02 Kind of brewery 2509 edge for drive.
2:09 Unless otherwise, it's possible you see it in all buildings and residential districts, must be played with the coin standards.
2:18 On the front yard setback in order to build an additional.
2:25 Does anybody in attendance want to come speak on that?
2:31 Thanks for the opportunity to come before you.
2:34 Please raise your right hand if you're right.
2:39 Uh 2509 Edgebrook Drive.
2:51 So we're just looking at the plans here.
2:54 I'm sure if I do want to put an extension on the eastern side of the pastoralist side.
3:04 I guess there's a little more background there.
3:07 I just played a bit of a march in a lot.
3:14 Um I gave you paperwork about my health.
3:17 It's more um not a luxury uh request.
3:20 It's more a necessity.
3:24 Throughout my b uh years working, I was a meat cutter, and uh my body has um much arthritis because of that.
3:35 And I've had in high school I had two knee operations.
3:40 Like all together I've had six knee operations, back fusion, just now had uh neck fusion in my back is um a back of an eighty-year-old man, my doctor says.
3:54 So I'm really uh broke it up and I need to I my house does not have a bedroom or a washroom.
4:02 Um on the main floor, and that's the request to add a bedroom to that house on the east side, and uh, have a washroom in that addition also.
4:16 And it's all from necessity, huh?
4:18 I have 14 floors going up and down, and I really would love to eliminate that by adding them.
4:26 That's why I'm here to request from you today.
4:33 Does anybody on the board have any questions?
4:40 Are you aware of the Plan Commission's um proposed uh solution that would not require a variance.
4:48 No, I am not aware of that.
5:07 It states that to decline it.
5:11 Or to not approve it or this paper here.
5:15 It does recommend disapproval, um, but it also recommends a um a uh alternative approach to your addition.
5:23 It doesn't it doesn't recommend disapproval of the addition in totality, just where it's located on your property.
5:30 Um so we'd like you to to see what they suggest and and see how you feel about it.
5:37 You know, there's there's not that much.
5:41 I I'll definitely listen to them absolutely for sure.
5:44 Yeah, they're they're placing it in the rear of your home.
5:48 The addition is placed in the rear of your home.
5:50 So alternatively on the west side of the property.
5:55 There is a diagram if you want to take a look at it.
6:06 As you guys know, oh yeah, we're not.
7:37 We do not need to be a that's why we would have to be various.
8:04 Yeah, that would not work for us.
8:06 It just you're adding on to another addition, you know, two additions on top of each other and it would take our backyard up and we don't want to do that, you know.
8:17 It would work really well on that east side.
8:19 You know, we can enter it through our uh living room and uh and it would not encroach any more on the property line that all the houses in the neighborhood encroach even my property from the other neighbor, his he's only five foot from the property line, and that's all I'm asking for, you know, for that variance to be accepted.
8:48 And could you explain to us um there's a thirty-five foot, you know, strip of land from the property line to the street.
8:58 Um which maybe I guess in my interpretation might in spirit, you know, solve our issue of not getting too close to a a street.
9:06 Can you explain here?
9:09 You own that property?
9:12 I don't own it, but I maintain it.
9:15 Yeah, could we hear playing commission's comment on that?
9:17 Yeah, and this case it's the right of way.
9:19 It's uniform along the entire um dogless road.
9:23 Probably for future expansion.
9:26 But if we went so close to the property line and there's an expansion, now you are a bottom right next to the street.
9:33 That's probably the reason why there's that much of room there.
9:37 But even with the current property deal, set back in that they don't care really need the setback remain requirements for our zoning college.
9:44 So adding on to that you are increasing the non conformity, which we usually don't um we don't want that to happen.
9:54 And the and I know that this is a reasonable accommodation request.
9:59 However, there's an alternative in the back.
10:02 And with reasonable accommodations, we mostly get um fences where and driveway expansions, which we do a temporary approval and tell them when you move out or sell the property, it has to come back into conformance.
10:16 It doesn't make sense to tell someone to tear down an an entire addition.
10:20 So this is going to be permanent, so that's how we are thinking about it.
10:25 Although the have to take out the pool, it's it's balancing the rules with having what you also require.
10:34 So And what is a setback requirement?
10:39 In this case on the um from Douglas.
10:47 So Douglas currently it's thirty five feet.
10:50 It's thirty five feet.
10:51 So they want to go close so close they ha they're going to be three foot off the property line.
10:57 It says five, but five.
10:59 But they have to be twenty five at least.
11:01 So it's waiving at least twenty five twenty foot.
11:06 Off of the road or the property.
11:09 Well they're already in violation.
11:13 So that's what I'm saying.
11:14 It's already legal non-conforming, but now if you approve it, you are increasing the non conformity.
11:21 Is there any current plans to expand Douglas Road?
11:27 It also looks like I don't know if the transportation have a comment.
11:36 It also looks like maybe the house across the street and a block over are about ten feet closer to the street.
11:43 Did you notice that too when we were looking at We did.
11:47 So that is another thing we were thinking about.
11:50 If I don't know, it would be up to the board if they could go up to maybe ten foot.
11:56 You could do a contextual setback, but in this case they have a larger addition.
12:02 So it would still not make a little smaller feet, whatever.
12:10 I mean it would be unfortunate.
12:11 No, it'd be closer to the your dish would be closer to ten feet.
12:15 If you were to match the houses.
12:17 So the room is ten feet.
12:20 That would just to align with the other houses that as far as how far the road.
12:25 That would still be within the setback.
12:36 If we can do a contextual setback, we can do that.
12:39 So it would be what we would take property here, right?
12:43 I'm still inside the property line.
12:46 Yeah, so we would take like maybe the closest house to Douglas.
12:50 So maybe in this case if we use this, you have to it's a garage.
12:54 So you have to align it this way.
13:00 But it would be the rule would be big enough, right?
13:04 So I'd be willing to go like eighteen or sixteen, but ten is now much of a rule, you know.
13:12 So I would suggest what you can do is go back and talk to your contractors and we can work with them on the um conceptual setback, see if that's something you would be okay with and then you can come back.
13:25 Okay, in case this game, I think.
13:29 And it would still be smaller.
13:31 Yeah, we needed at least at least sixteen, not I'd be and I'd love to have it twenty, but you know.
13:39 No, I I under I think we all understand where you're coming from and right.
13:43 A room at ten feet is not in a heaven, right?
13:48 No, I just you know, we take in planning commissions, um, what what their thoughts are and then we hear from you and kind of determine the hardship and I I think we're ready to vote and um I'm gonna have a hard time hearing you buddy.
13:59 So yeah, we take in two we've taken planning commission's comments and then we hear from you and then determine hardship and um I think we kind of had a bit of an internal discussion, I think we're ready to go.
14:18 But really appreciate the comments.
14:20 Alright, thank you very much for your time.
14:25 Secretary, with that should be should this um variance be approved.
14:30 Julie Randall's Yes.
14:43 Your variance has been approved.
14:51 No, you're you're good.
14:52 Um I just want to let you know that what you asked for.
15:02 So we're doing uh, yeah, no worries.
15:13 Secretary, please read the next case.
15:26 Applicant request variants on the front yard setback and total number of garage accessory structures are all in order to build a second garage.
15:35 Located both front edges on a double front edge lot.
15:40 Does anybody in the attendance want to speak on if I need to speak or not?
15:44 Um, you already did this.
15:49 You know, submitting an application we'd like to hear from it.
15:56 Jason Wilson, twelve twenty-four Joyce Lane.
16:06 Tell you what I'm trying to do.
16:07 Oh, so pretty much I I I bought the house on twelve twenty four Joyce Lane.
16:14 Um re redid the whole house inside out.
16:17 My daughter lives in that house and then there was a lot next to it.
16:20 I guess when they uh there was a house there before they did the four seventy five exit right there.
16:26 They tore that house down and then there was a bunch of empty lots right there.
16:29 So I called the land bank and I purchased that lot.
16:32 I'm taking care of that lot, and I wanted to put a structure on that lot.
16:36 And due to the road being at an angle right there, the setback is off.
16:41 I can't I'm like, I think five feet is what the difference is.
16:44 And that's where I need to have the variance to get that approved.
17:16 I think we need to get with uh building permit.
17:21 But it's uh from our perspective.
17:26 If you have any questions, we'll have to like find any questions.
17:35 Secretary, please read the next case.
17:43 Wind your law offices on behalf of a team in Suby Eastmail.
17:54 Is anybody in attendance wants to have to speak?
18:01 I do have Mona Huckle here with me.
18:03 She's daughter in law of Subi.
18:06 Are you an attorney?
18:08 Um, if she plans on speaking, have you had a chance to sign in?
18:11 Didn't have her sign in, I could have her sign in right now.
18:14 I signed in on her.
18:15 If she plans to speak.
18:18 Please sign in and then we'll swear you in.
18:20 Oh, we don't elsewhere.
18:50 6165 Whiteford Center.
18:59 Um we did submit the application.
19:01 There's a fence there.
19:03 Uh I believe an agent from the city contacted us to indicate that it was in violation.
19:08 Um I did speak to Mona spoke to the one of the former owners today, so she gave you a little more information I didn't have before.
19:16 Um evidently in twenty twenty when the I think a wooden fence was approved.
19:21 Um there were a lot of break-ins.
19:23 People kept breaking in, so the owner put in a taller fence.
19:26 So that's why the taller fence is there.
19:29 Um, but I think everything else remains the same that uh it would be very expensive to remove this and I understand and Mona can say too.
19:38 I understand the n she's spoken to the neighbors, they don't object.
19:41 And I don't think we have any neighbors you're objecting.
19:43 So we're requesting a variance to allow the fence that has been there for the last six years to continue to remain.
19:52 So when you purchase the property, this the fence this is the fence that was existing.
20:10 And now it's uh like a T like they like a tree company that cut what like landscaping and tree.
20:17 It's a tenant there, right?
20:18 There's a tenant there right now.
20:20 So just on landscaping and we always keep it maintained.
20:24 Even when there was no one day I was like we make sure like it's always maintained.
20:28 Short grass, no nothing.
20:29 Okay, no doubt, no nothing.
20:31 I always was on top of it, even when there was no one.
20:34 We just got recently entered but we always wear it on top of it, like clean it and maintain the whole time, like I had a question for zoning.
20:46 She's willing to speak.
20:53 It looks like a couple blocks over.
21:00 Is this compliant in industrial?
21:02 This type of fence.
21:06 So this site is not zoned industrial.
21:09 I'm saying that there's a couple blocks over it is zoned industrial and there's very similar type fence there.
21:14 Is that an acceptable fence in that situation?
21:17 And some of them are legal non-conforming, so they were in existence before we had a zoning code.
21:22 So they can stay, but if they were making any changes, they would have to comply with the new zoning code.
21:28 And in this case, the site was approved for what three and a half foot decorative fence.
21:34 So um I can tell whether they bought the property with a fence like that or not.
21:40 We can see photos of that, but this is a metal fence, it's not permitted in the front yard at six foot and it's not permitted.
21:48 So I think it is on them.
21:49 When you bought the property, you can see all the permits that were pooled.
21:54 You can tell whether um the fence is in compliance or not.
21:58 And they mentioned cost.
21:59 Cost is not a hatchet in this case.
22:01 The fence they already put up is falling apart.
22:04 If you look at the photos that they submitted, it's already fallen apart.
22:07 That's why we do we require them to put in the proper materials and to meet the zoning standards.
22:14 And there are some um residential properties next to it.
22:17 So having this kind of plans pull the safety issue at the same time, it's it's not looking good.
22:23 So cost alone is not a hardship.
22:33 When you purchase the property, did you pull a title commitment and was against the like zoning code to ensure that everything on the property is in in compliance with the code, and if so, did you purchase a policy that you you didn't purchase a title policy?
22:51 I think these transfers were like sort of related family transfers.
23:09 Craig, please, call through all this fancy approved.
23:25 It's been disapproved.
23:36 Secretary, please read the next case.
23:39 BC Keys number 26-0013.
23:44 African City Clear Parks Division.
23:47 Site location is out of river.
23:54 Avocant requested variance on fill restrictions in order to build shoals.
24:00 Environmental shoals in the existing floodway.
24:02 In order to provide natural habitats for a native fauna.
24:20 Joe Fosma, 2201 Ottawa Drive.
24:28 So we're looking to install uh some inwater habitat in the Ottawa River adjacent to Harry Kessler Park and directly across the Ottawa River at Pinkley Landing.
24:39 Um the section of river, that we're looking to do this work has been identified as as an area of concern that requires um some support to to increase the fish habitat that's a cabitat and improve the uh quality of of Ottawa River in that section, in order to do those habitat improvements.
25:01 Um we're proposing creating some near shore shoals, that uh diversify the habitat, and uh create um opportunities for additional uh, you know, fish rearing.
25:14 Uh, so uh the code uh doesn't allow us to do in waterfill, uh so that is why we're we're requesting the variance.
25:23 There's a diagram, how like what's the square footage of of that?
25:28 Yeah, I'll let Verdantis uh come up to to the gift specifics.
25:32 Um they're the ones who design the shoals, and they'll be able to um answer the the you know the details of the project.
25:41 I swear in yes, we see ninety-two twenty two memorial highway.
25:56 Yeah, so the project area is about four acres.
26:00 If you look at if you're looking at this same diagram.
26:04 So that dashed line on either side, they're about four acres.
26:08 So the length along the side of the river is about it's under six hundred feet so each side if you were to project line.
26:17 It's less than six hundred feet.
26:19 Um, so just for perspective, if you have a section, if there's a section detailed also.
26:30 So the top of those structures are just below the ordinary high water mark.
26:34 So basically that stretch of the river's fluctuating based on that lake level.
26:40 So I don't know the lake level fluctuates, but the Army Corps puts uh ordinary high marked at like 573.6.
26:49 We just received the permit from them to do this work, but we kept it below that, so we want the structures to be primarily submerged.
27:01 Four feet high of rock.
27:03 So they're about twenty feet wide, and each one of those, depending on the structure.
27:08 It varies in length, but they're about 100 feet long.
27:14 And this is just a state wetland, but you don't have to get any federal approvals.
27:19 No, we have uh McCormick.
27:20 You have to perceive that.
27:22 Yes, we're gonna work through the next step is what how EPA is water quality certification or through the uh, but we're gonna do it.
27:28 And the DNR has weight in crack.
27:33 They're in every round.
27:34 Yeah, the DMR gives us recommendations.
27:36 We'll have to do a mother survey just because of the river bottoms.
28:01 Robbie has screwed.
28:06 It's a nice project.
28:21 Um, it looks like we have one over.
28:27 Um, is there any other minutes we need to approve from?
28:31 Yeah, we have four cases from the last uh meeting in uh April.
28:37 Is there any revisions or corrections of those minutes?
28:45 I second that motion.
28:51 With that, I think that would adjourn the meeting.
28:55 I think it's a good one.
29:47 Yeah, so he had it last month and so he wanted to expand his driveway, but we told him that it's not leading to a parking space in the rear.
29:59 And he said he had a room to expand it.
30:01 And he was supposed to send us some plants.
30:03 I haven't had that from him, so.
30:07 Yeah, it's not approved.