I can find that we are live.

We should probably talk about the year to do that.

Not that someone is going to be able to do that.

We're talking about the new month.

Welcome to the urban and economic development committee meeting.

It's about 3 30 on May the 6th.

I call this meeting to order.

The first item is rezoning application at or near 61st in union.

Good morning.

I'm used to having Susson before me.

Do you want us to talk a little bit more first?

Oh we have appointees.

That's right.

Yeah.

So yeah, I know.

Okay, so I have three um really interesting cases this morning that are um all really good, I think.

So this is a um rezoning at 61st in union to CS.

You can see that corner has a lot of different zoning districts on it.

So it already is a large portion of it.

CS, this would just be making the entirety of the parcel CS.

It's in P as well.

So oh I'm sorry, the first two are related.

I don't know if you have to do that.

Uh item number three rezoning application at an Air 61st in union.

So this is the parcel on the corner.

Um, nothing's developed right now.

It's been part of the PD that has never developed.

It is a multiple use land use designation.

The intent is to develop housing.

Um, they're leaning towards senior housing on this side.

We do have a conceptual uh site plan, and it's how it turns sideways.

So north is to the left, um, 61st on the right, and then of course union.

Um, and so that it needed to go to CS as a whole to get not to be able to do apartments because it could those could be done anyway, but to get to the FAR they needed and the height they needed because the P restricted those, those were a couple of the main factors.

Also, there was a setback issue.

They do, um, after talking with the developer, they did want to move the building up to the street, they wanted to have that sort of pedestrian feel up at the street, anticipating what that future intersection might look like.

And um, so they anticipate that it be maybe even four stories, that's the max in the PUP it could be, and maybe about 120 units.

So that's really about it.

We had we didn't hear from any opposition from anybody on it, um, and it was unanimously recommending for approval.

Yeah, so we've had uh a number of community meetings about this, um, and I'm grateful to Simple Church for hosting uh those meetings.

Um, our folks are excited about the development in partnership with Mercy Housing.

Um, and pretty cool that it's going back up uh kind of to the street, so give it a frontage.

Um, and there's additional additional development.

I mean, I met with you know I walk, and we're you know, with business owners, uh community leaders, and uh we're glad about what's happening, so we support it.

Okay, anyone else item four rezoning app for property at 10 uh 41st and 129 east and next one too, please.

Uh same thing.

It's a resolution at the same area.

Okay, okay.

So there are two related applications.

Uh one is a zoning change, the other is a company amendment.

This is the side.

Um the this is a really okay.

So let me show you the area.

You'll you'll get a better sense of where it is.

Um there's of course it's already developed out as really an office complex um on the the southwest there.

Um the intent is it's RS5 on the larger piece, that's about 44 acres.

Um commercial is intended, or CS on the corner.

Um so this is the change.

Currently, it is scientific research, which is a very rare zoning district.

Um, as far as land use, which is the second application, it's employment currently.

Um, you know, this is because it's really filling out the rest of this area, or at least the parcels.

So it's it makes sense that it um, you know, this office park, I don't even know what you call it.

Albus Park is typically kind of full, but there's still some vacancies there.

Um, so this is a good use of the remainder of that portion.

It is separated by a floodplain, so it does kind of have a little bit of a separation there from that use, and um to match with the residential and commercial, they've also asked for a land use change to neighborhood and a but the corner, I think is multiple use or local center.

Yeah, and that's about it.

The residential development.

I mean, it will still have to be designed, but what we've seen so far, uh, estimated lots are about 310.

Uh yes, semi-district.

I know there was some confusion confusion because district six is across the street.

So this is district seven.

I didn't meet with the developer.

Um the commercial zone will have a hotel going in, so um, and kind of offices, retail kind of thing on the corner.

Not on like you would see it like 80 First Domingo or any other residence in a courtyard, one of those, and yeah, quiet place or something like that.

I can't remember the project exactly.

One of those types, yeah, definitely like uh business, traveler type um three-story, maybe you know, a few dozen units, um, and then the kind of amenities that would go with that, like I said, not unlike it's characteristic in our district already around like 81st Street from 169 to Sheridan, you kind of see kind of what's going on over there, and then the housing I'm very excited about, of course, because we need more housing, and these would be a product for workforce, so starter homes, three bedrooms, two bath, um affordable to you know get started in in housing for uh folks who are a little bit locked out of the market right now.

And I think just I don't want to over speak my colleague to the east, but this is a developing corridor.

You and I are aligned on this.

Yeah, this is a developing corridor, and hopefully, the more rooftops we get, there'll be a grocery store that goes in and those kinds of things that we need out there.

That's the growth corridor.

Yeah, exactly.

And we already have the firehouse out there, so it's just um continuing to grow.

I will just flag, um, I don't think I'm speaking out of turn, but as we talk about the next capital improvement package, 41st Street over there's gonna need some improvements because it's growing quickly on the um business side and residential, so probably some if it's not already been designed, further to the east, some widening design, and maybe even some lighting dollars, so just something to look look at it.

But we um capture the easements now, which is the first part of this acquisition.

So I'm supportive, and I've this is a local developer, and he seems like he's already in good faith.

He's reached out to community, and so I'm excited to have this kind of partner coming in to do a project like this.

What is that a office part to the south?

That's I know it's not on here.

That's like Verizon and so the one that's here.

Yeah, they've got a um rental car, yeah, south uh facility in there.

There's um like a care ATC facility in there.

There's just kind of random um office type use.

And then obviously to the last parts, but we can't remember.

Oh, I see.

And to the east, you have home builders association, uh, okay.

I don't want to.

Exactly.

So it's all that's where the cows graze right now.

Uh, yeah.

Where you're kind of driving through, and you're like, there's kind of where everybody says that gates weight a little bit.

That's right.

That's right.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, you answered a lot of those questions.

Susan, you said it was a scientific um resource zoning?

Yes.

So there's not much of that.

Another site that is scientific research zoned is the OU Tulsa side at 40 first, then you but there's not a lot of it in the city.

I thought this is entirely on theory, but I thought, is it what is that where the aliens are gonna do research on the area?

Crop circles.

Yeah, we can take them there.

Alright, back to business.

That's what the cows are.

Yeah, incognito.

Thank you.

Watch too many nine in black movies.

Like a little dog and then in the black.

Anything else?

Okay, item six resonating application at 90 versus riverside.

Okay, I think you're familiar with this one.

You've seen this before with a tip that you approved.

So this is about a 30-acre site.

And if you remember maybe a year or two ago, we approved an amendment to the river design overlay, because this is in large part in the river design overlay that would allow if if an MPD was done on a property over 20 acres.

Um it could not follow the standards to the exact letter of the law, but would really need to incorporate that as much as possible.

So that's what this did.

So there's a lot of that incorporated into this development.

So a lot of different zonings right now, going to MPD 9.

So there's a specific set of standards.

Again, a lot of mirror river design overlay.

Um I think you're familiar with this site.

Seems like it, most people are.

What do we call it?

Arkansas River Port or land use on the other.

And this is the I think this is the one you've probably seen before, too.

It's been the one I think in the TIP packet.

So this is the general concept.

Um the peach color is retail, the blue is housing, multifamily housing.

So uh the proposal has roughly about 200,000 square feet of commercial and about 800 multifamily units.

This is the southern bullet.

Southern Riverlands project.

Yeah, okay.

Sure.

I understood that they were amending this that the markets would actually drive the numbers for for retail or housing.

So that I'm just giving you an estimate, it's not a set in stone number.

It's not okay.

I thought previously there was a specific number associated with each type of development.

Yes, and now they're saying that the market to drive it.

So Susan's correct.

The original plan is exactly what Susan said, and you're correct as well.

They plan to design as the market has need for it.

So it may not be 800 houses in AD 769 or something of that nature, but it will change based on the market.

Okay.

Do you know what if there's a percentage of fluctuation built into that, or if it is it just totally market-driven?

I don't know that answer.

I think that I think right now their concept is market driven.

Okay.

When we had our public meetings on this, they presented this in three phases, and they they I don't have the handouts with me, but presented a lower unit package of not you know 500 and uh moderate unit package, 600 or 700, and then the high, and so like you said, I think it's probably both.

As the phases go, they'll determine.

Right.

So as we're developing the project, the market will dictate ultimately how many homes will be on that side, and how the retail would be on that side.

Yeah, because if I remember correctly, the proposal was this was gonna be higher-end retail.

Yes, so that's what I'm asking.

So that is that that's still the same, it's still supposed to be going to be higher-end retail, but that's still designed for the property at this point.

So fluctuation.

The housing is what's gonna fluctuate, not the retail.

Okay, okay.

So the MPD is a very um broad, it's it's not a super tight regulatory document.

So all of these things can happen in the scope of this.

It's just whatever decides to happen on the site.

Um, this is just a conceptual of the thought that the developer has right now.

But the design standards that align with the river design overlay, like the landscaping, the parking, the trail, and all of that kind of stuff.

That is very tight regulatory.

Okay, I was gonna ask if there were any concessions made on RDO standards.

Um, some I guess the a big one is really it's not probably as close as to the street to riverside as it would require, but there were other factors, and they're really gonna heavily landscape the street and put a 10-foot wide side path, sidewalk, or whatever the name is for something that wide, um, next to the street.

So it still meets a lot of the intent, has really an internal courtyard, also a lot of landscaping.

So that's definitely an enhanced development from what we would normally see somewhere.

It's meant to be in development where people can come in actually to spend time in as well, so beyond just shopping or eating there, and we spend time walking around relaxing within that area for the community.

So is there just a connection to the uh casino to the west at grade, nothing over riverside or under riverside at this point?

Yeah, and I think there's um discussion maybe on the south side of a traffic signal or okay.

There's our there's two traffic signals there right now, but yeah, maybe there may be one right here too.

There's a one further north, yeah.

Okay, and go from behind.

Yeah, there's a trail that goes off the boards.

That is all the way down, one through the right near.

Yeah, yeah, on the west side of the riverside, right, and those would go to the lights.

Yep, okay.

Anything else?

Anyone else?

Thank you all very much.

Button seven presentation and updates from the regional chamber regarding economic development, tourism, and legislative advance.

Oh, thank you.

Do you know how many of those folders I have?

Every side of this, I just want a number of kills.

Okay, so thank you, Council.

We really uh appreciate the opportunity to come visit with you all today to talk about economic development tourism and government affairs.

Um also wanna just thank you all for the really great working relationship that we have uh with this body on a lot of really important projects, and so just wanted to highlight that and thank you for that.

Um Sarah was able to go recently with us, and thank you all for approving that Sarah went with us to Kansas City to do a pre-visit for the inner city visit, which is gonna be a really important uh always important every year that we do, and go look at other cities to see what they're doing well, and I think we're gonna learn a lot uh as we go to Kansas City.

So thank you for letting Sarah go along with us.

Uh it's October, it's in the packet of the calendar events here, so that will be uh October 57th.

So put that on your calendar, we'd love to have you there.

Are we driving or flying?

Uh it's easier to drive.

It's easy to do it's easy to drive.

Scooter.

I will first uh I'll first call on Renee McKinney to give us an update on some of the things that have been going on in tourism.

Renette, great, thank you.

Well, today is national global well, it's global meetings day, and it is national tour and uh tourism week around the country.

So it's really great to speak to you today.

Uh we also celebrated yesterday FFA's extension for an additional five years, and they bring in 13,000 people a day.

So, as you can imagine, to see it full, and the BOK was full yesterday with a general session, and very exciting to see that.

And then I just wanted to point out we are just weeks away from our big event, May 30th to celebrate the centennial.

And I'm very pleased to say we have over 3,500 cars registered, which is so big.

Um, and also bringing in so much travel and tourism and highlighting the capital of group 66.

So we're expecting a very big day there, so uh excited about that.

And one thing before I get started, I wanted to point out next week, um, the entire city is going to be full.

We have uh basketball tournament with over 700 teams.

We in addition to that have several other groups in that people are trying to find rooms as far as Edmond.

So because we don't have enough rooms in the end, um, people are Edmund is getting our guest tax.

So there is something to be said for the fact that um we have so many groups wanting to come here that we are now expanding into the entire region, and so that was just I want you to be prepared for next week.

It's gonna be a really big one.

I welcome that.

So um for the quarterly report, I just wanted to point out you can see uh where we are inventory and performance by class and our historic performance.

So we're having a very good year.

Our hotels are very happy.

Um we've had a strong quarter, and it's exciting to see uh the leads continue to grow, and we're doing quite a bit there.

Um our bookings and economic impact is all listed there.

And then I know you're seeing a lot going on around, but I I update the last business all the time, and you'll continue to hear about that as we turn away groups, which just absolutely pulls us to do that.

Um, but we're excited that we've got a lot of of interest here.

Um event organizer feedback is strong, and then uh our visitor center, this continues to grow with our visitor center being on Route 66, so uh you'll continue to see the interest there, and we're seeing a huge bump in our Route 66 traffic.

The Wall Street Journal story.

I hope everybody got to see that calling us uh the cultural uh city to see, and that it really highlighted our small businesses and highlighted our community, most especially our creative community.

Um so we continue to see that DCI out of New York is who we work with, and uh we continue to pitch stories to them and they continue to deliver.

So it's really exciting to see us with you know from the Wall Street Journal to we've seen uh Southern Living and several other big New York Times stories that have come out over the past especially six months.

So uh excited about that.

Uh marketing communications, you can see listed here as well as our earned media, and then uh social media.

We're doing a lot around that.

You're seeing influencers, and you'll continue to see that, especially around our centennial events.

And then lastly, talking about film music, arts, and culture.

Uh as you know, low down uh is filming downtown, and uh they're gonna be here through July.

We also have several other projects that are being filmed.

Our music is getting highlighted throughout all of that, and then we're preparing for music month in July.

So that is everything for us.

I appreciate that.

Thank you.

Yeah, it's interesting to think about like when we when we get a full-page or half page article in the Wall Street Journal.

I mean, that that's that's an article we probably could never afford an ad in the Wall Street Journal.

So those are huge deals for us, and so really you've had there's been three over the last um several months.

That was college student jobs.

Yeah, that was another industry test.

And then we had one back in back in December, about one of the top places to visit in 2026 in the world.

So those are those are really impactful and really get our get a lot of attention towards our uh towards our tourism venues.

So I'll turn it over to Kim almost to talk about economic development.

Yep.

Good morning, thank you.

Uh, in your package, you've got two uh two of our um materials in there that really highlights 2025, just a quick recap of all the things from the economic development perspective of what we handled throughout the region, um, and then the Q1 of uh touch base on where what our team has done so far to date, um but really want to highlight a couple of things on the recruitment side, aerospace, space and defense is huge, continues to be huge for us.

Um last year we announced Agile Space Industries, the rocket engine testing facility over near the airport.

That continues to generate a lot of interest in Tulsa.

We attended the space symposium in January, and um our team had a lot of folks walking up to us and saying, okay, what's going on in Tulsa, right?

Um so that rocket engine testing facility is a great um catalyst to growing the space industry for us.

Um, so please keep an eye out for good things happening in that industry on space, and then Lufonsa, as you've seen, they continue to grow.

Um, they expanded their 25,000 square feet new facility that adds 90 new workstations in a couple of weeks.

They're gonna announce they're gonna inaugurate their new engine test center, uh test uh facility, and so we continue to work with them to support their growth.

Um we continue to attend aerospace shows.

I mentioned um Space Symposium, so MRO America's was another event that we attended.

We walked out of that show with about five potential projects that we're talking to to cultivate and get them here for a potential visit.

Um, but we're really um continuing to really um integrate all of our processes.

So we've hired a new person who's purely her job is specifically lead generation.

But we're working to integrate our whole processes.

So, as Renee mentioned, we've got DCI that continue to do PR for us as an example.

They'll flush the market in New York before we know that we're about to go to a trip.

We've run digital ads there when New York's mayor was recently elected.

He was known to have not unfriendly business practices.

So we really pushed digital ads to businesses that we're targeting about how business friendly our climate was and our cost of living and cost of businesses here.

And then our team took a trip to New York.

But we had 14 appointments when we were there, and that was our uh proactive lead gen person.

She makes 40 calls a day.

That's all she does and tries to set appointments for us as we go to these shows or go to these marketing trips.

On the business retention and expansion side, as I mentioned, Lufonza, we continue to work with them.

We part of our team actually traveled out to Germany at their request.

We met with them to better understand their apprenticeship programs.

So we met with Airbus, Lufansa, and Volkswagen when we were there to better understand how we might be able to bring that process here.

They want our help to figure out culturally their apprenticeship programs probably won't work here in the states, but they want to figure out what can.

Also helping our local companies in getting their share of state funds.

So 20 million dollars went to local companies here throughout the region to help support their company growth.

Also, as they're whenever they look to make significant capital investments, there's another state program that we helped coordinate and connect them with for them to get extra dollars to help with that.

We continue to have our industry council meetings, so manufacturing, aerospace, and tech council.

Um we get them together, kind of talk about trends and help them connect with each other, as well as our one-on-one meetings with companies.

Um, and then finally on the workforce side, um, we want to make sure that our um our local companies that have what we're we've identified hard-to-fill roles.

Um, so we want to make sure that those HR managers of those companies are connecting with the specific folks at the university and tech roles that are teach those programs.

Um, so we had an event actually yesterday that got all of our accounting industry folks together.

Um, had several connections that were built there, but then we're also working for those companies that need experienced talent.

So we're running um talent ads in markets that are close by where folks may likely be relooked willing to relocate, as well as where there's a surplus of that specific skill in that in that community to get them to come and look at jobs here.

So we're working with companies to get their career pages listed on our website so that when we run those ads, they go straight to our site and then straight out to a variety of companies that have those roles open.

So I'll pause there if you have any questions.

All right, I'll turn it over final to Josh Driscoll to give us an update on government affairs.

Josh.

Good morning, everyone.

Glad to be here.

Um, as you're aware, we had our Washington, D.C.

fly in.

Um, and we had a great trial between Oakland City Chamber and Council Chamber.

We partnered together this year, one hundred and twenty attendees.

It's worth noting, Tulsa outnumbered Oklahoma City 80 to 40.

So props to us.

Uh but we were able to hear from our new US Senator Alan Armstrong as well as uh Senator Langford and other members of our federal delegation, as well as hearing from uh representatives from the export import bank and the environmental protection agency.

So, as those of you who have been before, you know, we have a mixture of elected officials and appointed officials and getting a good blend of policy and politics there.

Uh the state legislature, because we're playing with live ammunition right now.

I have to go to my second page of notes, which has more up-to-date information that may be outdated already.

Wait, let's look.

Let's see what's going on.

We're expecting tomorrow the House and Senate will adjourn to the call of the chair, meaning they're kind of in a hibernate mode and they will officially adjourn signing diet next week.

So if they need to take any further action, anything weird pops up if there's a veto or something like that, they would override.

But uh some bills we can specifically like a talk about because we've seen action and it's still accurate as of about 10 minutes ago.

He saw me texting, that's why.

The True Grit Trail Act has passed, so that's going to create a new uh trail tourism trail for Oklahoma.

It's south of us.

It's Salason and McAllister, but again, it's in the region and tourism as we learned, brings the people from all over.

I don't know if they'll be staying in Edmont for the true grit trail, but they might.

Uh Route 60 and that has been signed in the law um Route 66 centennial license plate became law without the governor's signature and again that allowed 366 citizen commission to create special uh license plate to commemorate this great year um I'm skipping over some other ones that are currently not accurate.

Uh Olympics revolving from the Oklahoma signed or pending action by the governor excuse me.

Um yeah this is fun to read your handwriting uh aerospace aircraft and aviation infrastructure so the legislature's continuing to invest in that is I think it's really good for Tulsa because we didn't see these investments Kim's spoken about the overarching message here on the legislature would be this is the second and final session of this uh session of the legislature so any bills that aren't across the finish line and if you look at our notes here there's quite a few that were priorities can be refiled next year and we'll get to start all over again which is good if something died bad if we got this close and didn't get it across the finish line so as a reminder next year as a non-election year we typically see a little bit more collaboration on the Councillor Bush from her funding legislature.

The off-cycle years are a little more a little bit easier I think but I agree um I was just curious like I don't know there's ones like the tri share that I would wish would have made it further but next time um can we back up to the budget appropriations because economically dollar question for you relative to um healthcare authority and Medicaid dollars.

I don't think healthcare is one of our biggest credit industries we have all these new hospitals coming in but I know with kind of like the budget appropriations and what's happening they're looking at having to cut provider pay potentially through Medicaid.

So I've been worried about being able to kind of recruit in or maintain physicians to especially with our new medical infrastructure do you all feel like outcome wise I don't know I was just curious what your all's perspective on that is as far as recruiting and retaining health care talent you know we've invested so much as a city into the new hospital buildings.

Don't want to speculate on too much but you know I think we could say it could have been worse could have been better.

Yeah yeah I've just I was kind of concerning that yeah I know I mean it's definitely worse.

I know we still have a deal for that I know we still have things coming under the table but you know just with the amount for that appropriation I just yeah yeah you think it could have been worse could have been better I think we have a lot of conversations to continue having around the healthcare field and some of this funding in particular along with when we were in DC we talked to our federal delegation as well about the changing reimbursement rates and what that's meant downstream.

You know it's easy at the federal level to make changes and reductions and then the state gets to pick up the tab and if they don't it keeps getting pushed further down and municipal resources get uh taxed with that so yeah okay thank you.

Thanks speaking of session and workforce uh child care so um with what has happened I think we have to get ready for what that's going to do in our community I got an update from representative shrouder yesterday that there's 1,394 slots in Tulsa County that have closed yep and I don't anticipate that those would be coming back.

This is not in line during the pandemic once those businesses closed they've moved on and doing other things.

So 1,394 slots closed and we were already under under available.

So as we talk about economic development workforce development I really think we need to start talking about employers about how they're gonna bring childcare into their into their operations.

You know these big employers um and if there could be a hybrid model where like where they're located let's talk about 41st street um or maybe like for the employees the slots are prioritized and if there's extra then maybe like neighbors could get in on that because I I just we can't do what we've been doing expect different results.

And it's unfortunate that the I mean they lobbied the heck out of trying to get that to turn around and same thing with mental health so we're downstream of all those policy decisions and so whether it's workforce attraction retention visitors right and we're in our budget talks here at this table about what we need to be doing.

I just didn't want to flag that.

And I can't remember if that was part of one voice.

I think it it was tangential to workforce.

So it's probably our top work for side of the show.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So our area elected are, you know, I think they get it on both sides of the aisle, but they're not a big enough entity to have a strong voice with that whole group.

So I don't know if we have to build a coalition with like our Oklahoma city partners.

That's half the state.

But we can't um take away reproductive health care and then also not have places for families to have children, whether it's uh you know, preschool or you know, six-week old babysitting or all the way up into the public school.

So, very concerning about downward um repercussions of those choices, and we're gonna find ourselves trying to catch it all, and we we know we can't.

So I just I hope we can advocate where we need to advocate.

I'm looking at Counselor Bush because I know she's been on the phone and walking those floors and trying to, and I've been on calls uh with representative Schreiber.

She's kind of um positioned herself as the expert in that space and trusted by all kinds of partners, but I just don't know how I think if our business community could speak to it in a way.

And this is not just a woman thing.

I just really do want to say that as a woman myself.

Like I have a working husband, we have to balance who's taking care of the kids, who's running them to and fro.

Luckily, we have a living grandma, not everyone has that, and that comes with other financial impacts, right?

You know, another mouth or feed.

So families are trying the best they can, and we don't live in a community where one job can support a household.

That's just not the world we live in.

So we're it this is not a woman's issue, this is a family and it's a community issue, and it's a workforce issue.

Definitely workforce.

So I'm hoping our business partners can um maybe there's some, I don't know, Kansas City, but it's in nearby communities where they've you know figured that out.

Yeah, I'm out of time.

Yeah, but no, the problem.

I know Suzanne is extremely frustrated.

It's like when I was over there, I think did a newsletter about the three-legged stool, and when one leg is broken, the whole system collapsed.

It's the Senate this year.

Yeah, the problem is the house is worth their tail off, Senate stopped everything.

I mean, and that's this is the politics that happened, which is so unfortunate.

I personally don't think it's gonna turn around even to the call of the chair.

I think all of this is dead in the water, they're gonna get out of the campaign especially out for next year.

So, to that point, you know, I don't know how our business community can step up, but it is a severe problem.

Yeah, because for those of us that work for other companies, even our employees can't come to work, there's no place to take their kid.

Right.

So the economic the trickle down effect is astronomical while they play politics at the state level.

I'm just gonna say that.

We also know that uh readiness to read and learn happens before kindergarten, correct.

So this is also part of that for long-term workforce as well, right?

And I know there's a lot of businesses are looking at the daycare issue, not only in Oklahoma but in nationwide.

We talked about that in the city.

Unless we support it.

Well, and we do business incentives, maybe we need to reframe how we look at business incentives and also incentivize people that are willing to put in the case.

Well, that was the tri-share thing, right?

At the state level, I'm saying as a local right.

I mean, I don't I'm not one of these people that thinks the municipal government can cover all the sins, but there are certain federal things or economic drivers if you do have an international.

Well, and just the overlapping impacts, right?

Right, higher rates of domestic violence, higher rates of child abuse, all these things happen when you start taking kids out of um you know a collaborative care situation.

Not for everyone, but for a lot of people, those are the points, and then you have downward effects for decades after.

So I think we need to be mindful.

I don't know if there's an economic incentive tool conversation we can have around business attraction and incentives that could also we prioritize housing, you know, when people are coming in and doing infrastructure that would lead to housing.

I think child care is gonna be this next thing that housing and homelessness has been for us, and um, we just it's easy to be like that's not fair, the state should be doing it, but they're not to counselor, they're not just point.

They're not.

For their sense of responsibility.

And we can't afford to wait, and I'm just and I mean, these people who have been in business taking care of 12 kids a year.

When they go away, they're not coming back.

It's not a financially sustainable model to begin with, and then you know, with the subsidies being lost, they literally are just 400 child care centers that aren't coming back in the past.

We're just gonna move on to state putting food on their own table.

Yeah, yeah.

Gilbert, that doesn't.

I'm good.

Isn't that so?

Oh, I'm sorry, Bush.

Real quick.

Yeah, I thought she was are the state questions settled yet.

As of this morning, there were still a couple of question marks.

I think you and I saw the same list.

Did we see the same list?

So just to let you all know, there's one in June, two in August, and four in November.

Well, with three dead, and I don't think the T set wants to do that.

I think T set's not gonna make it.

And I get that maybe, yeah.

But that is the Medicaid expansion.

That's November still.

November still, GNC reform and the uh property tax.

Yeah, the annual cap for property that's certainly customers.

So that will be on with the hotel guest tax on the in November.

I'm just letting you know.

Yeah, and the August one is when we have our elections and uh um O and G O and D France.

Yeah, so you've got what are the ones on you've got state cap question, require proof of identity to vote, and then the advalorium manufacturing tax exemption.

Yeah, that's another one of our property tax yeah, another property tax reforms.

So minimum wage is on June.

So I just didn't know if this was still hope everyone's got this.

That is still accurate again as of this morning.

Yeah.

And your absent.

Sorry, that's all I want.

I wanted to verify that.

Yeah, that's what affects us.

We've got time.

Yeah, so to piggyback on what everybody's been talking about child care.

Um, as well as the cuts to snap benefits, um, and the work requirements that are now put into effect for families, and so it's I'm concerned, as uh my colleague counselor Dr.

Wright had mentioned, that if you can't get child care and you have work requirement expectations, I'm not sure how this is gonna roll out for Oklahoma children, seniors.

I just had a DV that uh mom reached out to she got a child care subsidy, had a job, but she needs child care for the job, they had to have proof of the job to use the subsidy of child care, so she got stuck in the middle.

And then there's the uh teens that are aging out of systems that are going to be uh themselves as well, uh at minimum wage jobs and able to provide food for themselves.

So I'm really concerned about that, and that also falls back into the Oklahoma Healthcare Authority for changes, and uh without I mean, it's just I see it as a rolling ball going down the hill, and uh one deficit is gonna lead to another, and it's this is really going to affect families in a really difficult difficult way.

I'm really concerned about that.

Yeah, I think our position for our task forces to our members to the board is child care was our our biggest workforce issue and probably our single largest focus this session, and I think that's not gonna get easier until we come up with at least some progress on that issue.

It's gonna affect housing too.

I mean, if you can't um feed your family, they're probably not able to afford housing, and there's a shortage of that as well for seniors, families and veterans.

I was just gonna check.

So knowing all that, knowing we're looking into next session, are like what what would you all recommend, or what do you think we should be doing in the interim?

I'm just thinking through one, if there's something we should be looking at the city level related to like the child care economic outcome issue, or two is like part of me is like, do we need like I would say the word interim study, but it's like what's there to study?

It's just a sort of note that yeah, it's been studied.

There's it's not even also who needs to study something that's very clear.

We need to study the Senate and see who is really blocking these.

Well, I think we should get on the other side of all the election cycles for all of those.

No, but but the issue here is like it wasn't what happened didn't have to do with ra it wasn't rational act or disruption.

So there was nothing predictable or strategic that could have happened to help stuff be on the floor of the Senate this cycle.

It was like other politics it was other politics and not like necessarily super rational stuff.

So we can't.

So that's where I'm also wondering if there is something to explore.

I'm just naming to my colleagues too like if there's something more hyper-locally we need to explore, given like if we have another session like this one where there's nothing rational or proactive we could do that would actually make a difference for something being heard, then what do we do?

I would like for us on our side to at least look at incentivizing incentivizing it with these other economic development things we're putting up.

Or that's like the one thing I had mentioned for in the past.

I don't think this has ended up happening, but for instance, um maybe we need to revisit this one like the housing partner network is incentivizing or at least if we're going to give city dollars to someone to put in multi-unit housing somewhere, going, hey, you're gonna get extra points if you're incorporating space for a child care center in that physical space you're building out.

Like that is you know, there are other cities.

Well, even the like rezoning we just talked about in our corridor, there's gonna be single family in this commercial zone.

Yeah, I mean, maybe a little daycare center could go in there.

I just think we need to do something different than we've been doing.

You've seen I think at 61st in Yale where they've put in used to be more retail and restaurant, and they put in a little um Cree School over there, and I think it's doing quite well.

So, of course, we need things that are affordable at every price point in every part of it.

So it's doing really well.

I think the other thing is that people don't always realize there's also subsidies to um tribes for child care that can be layered with DHS ones.

Sometimes I also wonder maybe this is more for like I don't know if it's T V C or something like helping people or even some of the small businesses at child care providers navigate those pay structures.

I don't know.

I'm just trying to think through a few local layers of what we could be doing, knowing that like you know, everyone's done their advocacy best.

I think we have to do it locally and then hope that the state gets it together because it's a yes and at this point.

Yeah, I mean we can't.

Well, okay, I'm following up on that.

I mean, some of these folks, can we do can you all lead like an interim study just for our city on this that we can kind of strategize?

I think it's a conversation we could have maybe work with Sarah and see if her expertise and then I actually the women's commission did a sorry out of the women's commission did a really good report.

And then um putting on a different hat, my um my nonprofit, we have like a like analytics art that focuses on women's health data, which includes economic outcomes, so we probably have some a really good database of stuff that we could just put into it.

And I think we need to pull in the business community.

Yes, absolutely on that.

I mean, yeah.

It's one thing for us as a city government, miserable entity to do it, but to have that within.

Or have a voice from business communities, yeah.

Yeah, so they understand the I mean, I know I'm sat next to Bill Noyne and he's got he's now seeing these issues.

I mean it's trickling down to your numbers.

So it is we don't need to do the state anymore.

It's a dead horse up there.

I mean, I used to chair that committee.

So what are we gonna do locally too?

And there's probably other cities that are doing it, so something's like maybe just like we did with our local house.

We can survey the United States, there's five or ten good ideas out there in the US.

People have done our hypocrisy.

Yeah, that we could discuss.

Agreement, yeah.

Yeah, could be some options.

Okay, okay.

So that's also a good opportunity.

Uh and then we'll focus on the golden dome at aerospace.

That's right.

So I'm gonna make it to that.

You've got a calendar events, I won't read them all to you.

But just want to say really appreciate your time.

I want to appreciate your support and uh everything you all do.

So thank you.

Thank you all too conversation.

Give a shout out to the FMAC.

They are doing amazing work.

So thank you.

Appreciate it.

Okay, thank you all very much.

Okay, no further business, we're adjourned.

Anybody's going to above and beyond.

I think the band leaves in five minutes.