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Tulsa City Council Budget Special Projects Meeting - June 3, 2026

City CouncilWednesday, June 3, 2026
BodyTulsa, Oklahoma
SessionCity Council
DateWednesday, June 3, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:11

Okay.

0:12

All right.

0:14

Welcome to the 1 p.m.

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budget special projects meeting.

0:19

Today is Wednesday, June 3rd, of course, year 2026.

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Item number one.

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I call this meeting to order.

0:26

Two ordinance amending Title 43K of Tulsa Revised Ordinances, which is the City of Tulsa's expenditure policy for the 2017 limited purpose economic development temporary sales tax amending the projects and purposes for which expenditures of proceeds may lawfully be made providing severability.

0:50

This has the emergency clause.

1:05

So this is on the Brown ordinance for the surplus 103 million in the vision fund.

1:13

So last time we talked about a few modifications that you all would like to see.

1:23

One of those was on the municipal court lockup jail item.

1:29

That one was to provide some more flexibility for possible uses.

1:34

So you will see the additional flexibility in there to include demolition of the court facility, a new court facility, including relocation cost or rehab, depending on the final plan.

1:50

The public facilities with inside the arena district and also for use on a convention hotel.

1:57

So still may all be used for a courts or jail facility, but this does provide flexibility on funding options.

2:05

And then the other major change was down in section E, and that's related to the public safety center.

2:12

So if the city does receive any sort of grant funding related to the public safety center, then those funds would be reappropriated to a different use that's governed by the ordinance.

2:26

So those are the high-level changes.

2:34

Just a small question.

2:35

Have we already fully submitted our grant application?

2:39

It's on track to get submitted.

2:40

I think it's next week or the week after.

2:59

I mean, for the uh grant to be when we get notification if we were no, it's a it's a rolling application, so you can apply it at any time, but I don't know that there's a decision time on that.

3:12

So that's why appropriating the full amount, the 25 lets you sign your construction contracts and get moving forward because you know all of the funds are available right now.

3:28

Anybody else have any other questions?

3:34

Anything else in there that you want to?

3:37

No, everything else, I think stayed the same from the original presentation that you received on this.

3:44

Okay.

3:49

Nobody has any questions.

3:54

Do you I already asked?

3:59

Okay, all right, and moving on to item number three, ordinance amending title 45, Tulsa Revised Ordinances Chapter 1.

4:06

Titled City of Tulsa Use of Tax Code, Section 119 ending and dedicating uh 15% uh of use tax revenue uh for debt services in support of the fund created by Title 43K, which is no longer needed for such purposes.

4:24

This also carries an emergency clause.

4:26

So this uh this is consistent with our discussions on the budget and with the vision fund.

4:31

This will just take the language away that was added in 2016 since the money is no longer needed to help with the debt service, and it'll put it back into the general fund, which is where use tax typically goes.

4:44

So it'll just restore this ordinance really to the way it was prior to 2016.

4:52

Anyone have any questions?

4:57

Wow.

5:03

Great.

5:04

Okay.

5:08

Um item number four.

4:58

I'm going to read four, five, and six together.

5:13

Four ordinance adopting the annual budget of the city of Tulsa for the fiscal year 2026-27, ordering the transfer of enterprise income of the general fund, appropriating unexpected balances for grant funds and capital project funds for fiscal year 2026-27 ordering and directing compensation and filing of levy requirements for the 2627 sinking fund of the city of Tulsa, Oklahoma revising fund balance 10% as an emergency operating and the general fund approving an emergency telephone fee of 5%.

5:53

For the calendar year 27, ordering the filing of the city of Tulsa budget fiscal year 26-27 with the state auditor and inspector of the state of Oklahoma and ordering this ordinance to take effect immediately after its adoption and approval by review and discussion of proposed technical changes and to the proposed city of Tulsa FY2627 budget capital plan and six ordinance approving and adopting the capital improvement plan for the city of Tulsa for fiscal year 27 through 31 as part of the FY2627 annual budget.

6:44

I got one.

6:45

If it's okay, I think we'd suggest starting with the technical change memo, and we'll like go through that.

6:53

Would you mind?

6:53

Would you pull the technical change memo?

6:56

Sorry, I left that stuff down there.

6:58

Um so I'm gonna go over the um items in yellow on the technical change memo and some items that were previously raised, but you may not see on here, and then Jared or Christy is gonna go everything in white, blue, and green are their items.

7:16

Yeah, very colorful conversation.

7:18

Yes, so um just to start first with with maybe what you don't see on here, but we've previously discussed um at council committee, um, and just recapping some of those items.

7:30

So the small budget committee met and went over some of these, and is essentially making some recommendations back through the technical change memo.

7:41

So um, and just a reminder the technical change memo reflex changes off of the proposed um budget.

7:47

So when you see some reductions, that's off of the proposed or additions that's off the proposed.

7:54

Um, so the first one there were two mental health um funding items that were um brought forward and discussed, and so small budget committee on the first one was for coats 911 funding.

8:06

So that's currently funded by family and children services and embedded in our 911 system.

8:12

Um the recommendation from small budget was to continue to continue to monitor that funding.

8:18

We we know there is state um uncertainty um in various funding sources, and then also monitor that in FY28 for if there's ability to scale um up that service, um, but there would be no change on FY27 recommendation.

8:36

Um, the other item was the forensic team, the backed team.

8:41

Um, and that is a outreach team that includes a lot of disciplines for very seriously um mental illness, and there's also a court involvement, justice involvement aspect to those teams.

8:55

Um, the small budget committee is gonna recommend um funding that for three years, um, starting with about 400,000 in the first year out of opioid dollars, and there was a suggested schedule.

9:10

You're not gonna see that on the technical change memo because it would come through a later budget amendment.

9:15

There are some match um requirements with that for additional dollars.

9:20

Um, and I think in the past we've brought opioid amendments separately from the budget.

9:26

So you remember two or three years ago you funded the ART team out of that, and that came in a budget amendment post-budget adoption.

9:35

So there's still some work to do there on that.

9:40

And then I know there's counselors who have various levels of knowledge on these, and so I think if you don't mind, I'll just go through them, and then if there's anybody else that wants to add additional comments about those, that would be that would be helpful.

9:55

So the financial empowerment center was also an item of discussion.

10:02

Also raised during budget discussions was utility assistance program.

10:07

And so some counselors on small budget committee would like to suggest that the Office of Financial Empowerment take on developing a utility assistance program, with the emphasis that no additional administrative cost, not anticipating additional staffing cost to develop that program.

10:27

I know that they're gonna ask for counselors to be involved in that.

10:32

I know there's counselors that have already expressed interest in being involved, but we haven't started anything formal because we're waiting to come back to council committee for everyone to hear that recommendation.

10:44

Um Mayor's Office of Children, Youth and Family, you'll not see on the technical change memo, it was just a discussion item as well.

10:52

Um, so there hasn't been any change recommended to that funding level yet, just um an emphasize on you had a just to summarize conversations.

11:01

Um, some counselors talked about the importance of staffing an organization for the entity to do the work correctly.

11:10

Others talked about needing to really maximize outside dollars and make sure that we're moving focusing things in programmatic cost when that's appropriate, and kind of watching our overhead on those programs.

11:25

Um so you won't see a change on that one.

11:28

Um family safety center, you also will not see in there, and we did look at the contract, does it look like the building um maintenance obligations are on Family Safety Center, and did confirm currently in TPD's budget, there's a hundred and fifty-five thousand dollars for that contract.

11:47

So no action this year, but a continued monitoring there as well.

11:52

Um, and I did for on the mental health, there also was a discussion of continued state advocacy on mental health there.

12:01

Um, counselors expressed concern about renovating the current jail while um plans were still to be settled on on the direction of that facility.

12:11

Um, and so um we talked, and the plan is currently not to renovate that um facility.

12:18

There, you're not gonna see any budgetary action.

12:21

Um, it'll just remain in that account, which I think was for um police divisions and an old capital package.

12:29

Um, and then finally, um we go over to the memo.

12:33

Um Christy and Jared will cover the demo cost.

12:36

I know that was also raised by counselors.

12:38

You're gonna see that in blue.

12:39

So that's just why I'm not gonna talk about it.

12:43

Um, so moving over to the technical change memo.

12:46

What you will see on the yellow items.

12:48

So the first column is the general or the first section is the general fund.

12:53

Um under emergency management, you had discussions um regarding just the scope and the division and the increased cost for emergency management.

13:05

So the recommendation is no change in FY27.

13:08

There were three positions and some one-time capital cost.

13:12

Um, however, in FY28, um the small budget committee was recommending reducing um the additional dollars that were put in there, and instead requesting uh that the when the new director is hired after a period of time of them being here, coming and providing a report on what is the scope of the office, what are the resources needed to properly carry out those functions and the partnerships needed to do that, and then you as a council can make the decision in FY28 how to fund that once you have a better understanding of the scope of the new office.

13:48

Um, so no changes though in FY27.

13:52

Um, next line in K.

13:54

You had the Route 66 um discussion with um when Anna came and Terry and Mark Hogan about the Route 66 assets to seed a maintenance fund to take care of the things that you've spent, you and the commission, and so many people have spent time investing in seeding that with a hundred thousand dollars and this fiscal year and plan for next out of the general fund.

14:22

That also would include the new welcome signs on either end.

14:27

So we know we have them at the village the other day as well.

14:31

The maintenance of those.

14:33

The maintenance of those as well could be could come out of that fund.

14:42

Our hope is that we can test this so that we can begin to create other maintenance funds or a bigger maintenance fund to take care of the things that we built.

14:53

We have to start somewhere.

15:01

This is more direct and dedicated to a specific area and central economic development attraction, if you will.

15:11

Yeah, and then maybe as we work on improve our tools of four, we kind of make it into any construction projects.

15:17

Yeah.

15:20

Anything else on that one?

15:22

Okay.

15:23

Um to number five under parks, which holds the Tulsa Zoo contract.

15:31

Um you had a presentation from the zoo a couple of weeks ago regarding a shortfall for the African Wilds exhibit.

15:40

So they um small budget committee looked at fund balance um in IOT one, and um the zoo was included in that capital package, and would like to suggest a seven and a half million dollar um contribution, subject to the zoo raising two and a half million dollars from other sources of funds in order to unlock that seven and a half um so that that project can go forward.

16:11

Um then next.

16:13

Oh, wait, we're confident they can do it.

16:16

You think we'll they'll do it?

16:17

They are here to express their confidence.

16:20

We're very hopeful.

16:22

Um, can you come to the table?

16:26

Yeah, I think it's the one that sinks.

16:29

Yeah, the trictures are always back.

16:33

You didn't really get 10 points.

16:35

We all know who you are, Lindsay, but please uh introduce yourself to our viewers at home and who are working at work or who are watching at work, yeah.

16:44

Lindsay can be watching at work.

16:45

Yes, Lindsay Hutchison, president and CEO of the Tulsa Zoo.

16:48

Um, the zoo is of course very hopeful that we can match these dollars privately with um another two and a half to meet the match requirements, knowing that we will have to try to find another five in total for the project, um, plus the other two needed for interest.

17:01

Um, I did have a question if there is a match to pledges count toward the timeline and date.

17:07

Because I don't know if we'll be able to get the 2.5 in by October.

17:11

Oh, it'd be my opinion that uh yes, but not a pledge from somebody who you just find out this out on the street in front of City Hall says, yeah, sure, I'll give you a million.

17:25

I feel like we can better get down there now because there's a lot of them walking by.

17:30

It's all the toughest weekend, we can't hands out.

17:43

But you need you need all 10 million by September.

17:46

Uh October 1st, yeah, my teller line.

17:49

Okay.

17:50

So I would I want I just wonder how the pledges would all pledges, imagine pledges would need to be in by that time.

17:59

Well, we have a loan with B OK, and they will let us borrow to 90% of our pledges.

18:05

So it's really, you know, it would be 2.8 that we really are having to look at.

18:09

Um for our BOK loan.

18:12

Okay.

18:12

Yeah.

18:14

Yeah.

18:16

Maybe we can check in with you like in September and see how it's going.

18:19

Yeah, definitely.

18:20

Yeah.

18:20

Hopefully, this helps incentivize.

18:22

Yes, we're very hopeful, and again, thank you for the consideration of the council to help us complete this really important project.

18:28

We appreciate being hard.

18:30

Yeah.

18:32

Well, thank you for what you're doing at the zoo.

18:34

Appreciate it.

18:35

Anything for pygmy hippos.

18:37

Also, your board did a very good job reaching out.

18:39

So get them gold stars.

18:41

I will.

18:41

I will for sure.

18:42

Yeah.

18:43

Any chance we can get pandas here?

18:45

No.

18:46

I mean, unless you guys want to pony up a lot more money.

18:50

Well, this you would like China to do that.

18:54

Like per panda, I think is the loss.

18:56

I have a very specific.

18:58

If we have bears, we can just paint them on every color you want.

19:01

Trash pandas, we have them running the streets.

19:05

We do have red pants.

19:08

Yeah, very popular.

19:09

Yeah, they are.

19:10

They're cute.

19:10

Yeah.

19:11

Yeah.

19:12

Great.

19:12

All right.

19:12

Thank you.

19:13

Of course.

19:14

Appreciate you.

19:16

So on to the next item, which is six on the bottom of the first page.

19:22

This is the 2016 vision sales tax.

19:25

So this is in that 103 million.

19:28

So this is the appropriation for that.

19:30

So what you're in FY27, there was six and a half million dollars.

19:35

What this change does is separates out that 500,000 is for shelter operations for low barrier shelter, and that 6 million is for the other programs, so primarily safe move.

19:49

The proposed budget included the remaining 17 million dollar balance from the 23.5 in the Brown ordinance.

19:58

What this change does is it again moves a million into specifically the shelter operations and it reduces the other appropriation by 10 million.

20:09

So you would have seven million total in FY28 for potential homelessness programs.

20:42

Yes, they are scheduled to come on the 10th, and maybe after we get through this, if there are specific questions I know I was able to talk to one of you yesterday that you want answered in that related to financials, if you can go ahead and let us know what those are so we can make sure that the presentation is responsive to that.

21:02

Awesome.

21:02

Thank you.

21:05

No, I think Emily and maybe Mark.

21:08

The original item that was requested was about winter shelter.

21:13

Um I'm assuming that is about past spend and future plans.

21:20

Okay.

21:21

Um and then I know uh at a committee meeting, counselor Gilbert had asked for hey, where's like is there like a one-page handout that has how we've currently spent our dollars?

21:32

Um, not just on the total number of dollars, but you know what went to admin, what went to direct housing cost, um staffing for outreach, and things like that.

21:44

So if there's additional things outside of those that you have, if if you let me know, then I can make sure to communicate those over.

21:53

Um flipping to the next page at the top, I think this is the last one that I have.

21:58

Um Councilor Paul Harper sponsored a um Brown ordinance, which you all approved a couple of weeks ago.

22:06

So what this does is it um updates the item language, the appropriation language in the budget to reflect what that brown ordinance um language had.

22:18

So before it just said Kirkpatrick Heights green would invest.

22:21

I can use chat GPT to answer that.

22:23

No, seriously.

22:26

I don't know.

22:27

Sorry, it is my phone.

22:33

I'm not aware.

22:38

We run it low on ink or something.

22:41

What do you mean?

22:41

Is it small?

22:43

Oh, it's tiny.

22:46

Well, it's Jared's fault.

22:53

Oh, you hit it up to at least a 12.

22:56

It looked bigger on the screen, yeah.

22:58

Sorry.

22:59

You know, if you take your camera button, and you're just like this.

23:06

Is this is this one of our budget cuts?

23:08

Yeah.

23:10

Paper is really costly.

23:12

You know what page?

22:59

Office supplies.

23:14

We will.

23:16

Marissa writes things down for the next year.

23:19

Marissa will know a 12-point minimum fine on the time and control change memo.

23:23

I'll bring her in the paper.

23:26

I'll bring her in the paper.

23:27

Yeah.

23:29

Um, so that is that is it for the the council-related changes, and then so I think I'm gonna turn it over to our finance friends to go over the rest of the technical change.

23:40

So flip back to page one.

23:44

Sorry, I was sitting in the way.

23:46

Now we can zoom in on the screen.

23:48

There you go.

23:49

Well, it has been screwed.

23:52

So I can swoop through everything that is I'm gonna speak on blue items, green items, and white items, and uh everything that's not colored or or white on there is simply a reappropriation of FY26 dollars.

24:09

These were funds that were approved in this current budget for uh the uses that are listed on here, they're in the process of going through our purchasing uh uh process.

24:22

They're not gonna make it before June 30 to get converted to uh encumbrances, and so this is just move them over to the next year so they can complete this purchasing process, get under contract and have the dollars spent.

24:36

It's really an administrative function because of the way that governments end everything at the end of a year and start over fresh July 1st, but have to answer questions going down any of them.

24:50

They're all primarily uh small assets, washer dryer for the fire.

24:58

Um there's some the uh annual permitting and license software for development services that's every year, it just came late this time.

25:08

Jerry, can I ask a quick question?

25:10

Since you did mention it, the washer and dryer.

25:13

Is that for one station or for several stations?

25:18

I mean, that seems like an expensive dryer.

25:22

I believe for several, but I can confirm that for sure.

25:24

Okay.

25:26

Maybe it's like an industrial.

25:28

They are very difficult.

25:30

Oh, they are big, I agree, but I I mean it just says appropriation for a commercial washer and dryer.

25:37

So I didn't know if that was plural.

25:40

Right.

25:41

Should it be plural?

25:42

I'll find out for sure.

25:44

Sorry to be picky, but I just want to make sure that we were spreading that washer and dryer out through to all stations for a good portion of the stations.

25:56

Sorry.

25:57

No, okay.

26:01

Uh the blue items, however, are things that were modifications from what was presented to the council as part of the proposed budget.

26:11

And I'll start at the top to go down through those.

26:14

Uh the first one under general fund a police.

26:18

Uh this will pair with uh item uh C below that in communications.

26:23

This is simply moving a uh website developer position out of the police department and into the communications department.

26:30

It is budget neutral.

26:32

The funds are just leaving one department, going to the next department, and it is related to uh reassignment of duties that's gonna be more aligned with work that communications is doing, but I believe they will still be focusing on public safety within the communications department.

26:48

It's just to have that alignment with the communications department.

26:52

All public safety, just this one position is moving, right?

26:57

You said they'll be the position or the duties will be aligned with public safety.

27:02

It's coming from TPD.

27:03

Yes, sir.

27:04

So will their job that job change be public safety all around or just DPD?

27:10

I think they're just still going to be more primarily focused on police.

27:14

We'll just have some more direction from the communications department.

27:22

The public safety departments will need that service.

27:26

I think that fire might have something as well.

27:32

They're already in communications.

27:34

No, this would be the only one in communications.

27:37

Yeah, I was with the I was with the auditor this morning, and he had a communications person within taking pictures and video.

27:46

Is that person in the communications department or would they be in the independent?

27:51

Yeah, this is like we have our own communications.

27:56

Everybody else is within the some departments do have someone that is our own social media and things like that, but I think this is to align it under the communications director strategy rather than letting TPD kind of do their own thing, which they've been doing, which isn't always helpful from a community perspective.

28:18

Sure.

28:18

That's why I asked.

28:22

The other ones are already under the communications department.

28:26

TPD was kind of on their um just helpful.

28:31

Thank you.

28:31

I think parks and all that goes like they have their own social media channels, but there's a internal graphics and for brand alignment or something.

28:43

Yeah, and just editing and things that happen before they go out publicly.

28:51

Moving on to one B, the animal services.

28:54

This is just increasing their funding for uh their chemical uh laboratory services as well as food for animals there.

29:03

Um, this was based on if you kind of think about the budget being prepared as a little bit like a cruise ship.

29:10

These numbers were put together in mid-March or so before kind of late March going into the proposed phase.

29:17

We had after that point looked at where their spend rate was this current year and reevaluated that they would probably need more money to be able to complete or to fill out a full year next year.

29:32

Um, they both had the same uh considerations and proposed and this that the shelter would be open 12 months, but this is gonna increase the uh funding to the level of spend that we're seeing right now, and then compounded by a larger shelter open for 12 months in the future, but it'll it'll raise we're increasing it 132,000 for the chemicals, which will raise their full budget to 515,000, and their food budget we're increasing another 53, which will raise it to a total of 206,000 for FY27, and then again it's 28 in the plan or 28 in the plan year.

30:19

We spoke about communications the department of resilience and equity.

30:25

Uh, item D, that is just uh removing the budget line for the public arts master plan that will go back into uh looking into that and communicating with council and come back with a plan on that later.

30:40

Um item G, planning neighborhoods.

30:43

The first one is a uh vacancy reduction restoration, it's that neighborhood inspector two.

30:48

If you remember in the proposed budget, there were several positions that were budgetarily held because of vacancies, uh being vacant for extended period of time.

30:58

There's a presentation on May 13th to the council on that.

31:01

Uh this position we went back and talked with uh the director, and I think there was a timing on it being filled, and so uh we put the money back in place for this particular position.

31:15

The demolition is for uh two locations, and this will uh cover the cost of I believe Brent had gone and gotten estimates from vendors.

31:30

One side's 495,000, the other's 345,000 for a total of 840 here.

31:35

Here it's a one-time budget line, and uh both sites and owners, we will still continue the process of pursuing liens and having them pay for the actual costs, but as a mitigation, these funds are being requested.

31:50

We put in the budget just in case to handle the demolition.

31:54

Fingers crossed, we don't say just in case we may not what are we the main recovery?

31:59

Houses.

32:03

I don't know about it.

32:09

On scale they drive.

32:13

Okay.

32:14

The one that just burned.

32:16

Yeah.

32:17

There's a fingers crossed we don't have to use that money.

32:20

Ideally, wasn't there an apartment complex at panel fire?

32:24

Yeah, there were 80%, Sheridan.

32:26

Okay, but that's you said oyo, and what else?

32:29

Star studio.

32:30

It's like Scotty Drive right here.

32:31

Yeah, so Oyo Hotel is there on Skelly Drive in Yale, and back behind there, they're two different parcels back behind there is Studio Star, which also caught fire several ones.

32:42

It's been a new sense now.

32:44

But we don't we don't own them.

32:46

No.

32:47

That's fine.

32:48

So you're just saying we want to go ahead and get them.

32:50

But I have to come back and get that.

32:52

There's already been a process set up that though they're going through that the hearing to for uh chronic nuisance.

33:01

So that's not until I think next week.

33:05

So there's also the possibility that it may be sold the property.

33:10

So it's being looked at.

33:12

So regards to someone who's going to have to demolish this.

33:16

Yeah, well, I mean you drive down that 44.

33:18

I just don't want to put a blanket over that thing because it looks so but just go ahead.

33:25

Don't watch.

33:27

Are they locally owned?

33:29

No.

33:30

Right, and that's probably it.

33:32

Yeah.

33:35

That's your chair.

33:38

And uh, again, please stop me with any questions if I'm moving along too quickly.

33:43

The next one, two, three, four, five items.

33:46

Um, I'm just gonna group together.

33:48

It's the general fund public works for 55,000, uh public works in the public ways fund for just 1,200, public works in the streets and transit fund for a little over 10,000, then the water and sewer department in the water fund for 239,000, and again, public works and the stormwater fund for 123,000.

34:16

All these are related to the same thing.

34:18

I believe a memo was prepared on May 21st for this.

34:23

Well we made here, but uh this is related to uh labor uh situation.

34:30

It's gonna resolve position pay, grade differences uh between LT operators and the water and sewer department and the street the uh public works department.

34:38

Uh, this was in collaboration with HR management, uh the union.

34:42

They were meeting regularly, and I believe they jointly came to this as an agreeable solution for all parties, and it is currently it's been put forward as a solution.

34:53

I don't think it's been finalized yet.

34:56

At least it's a description changes that have to go through the for mayor's approval, but it will equalize the pay across all both across the position in both departments, and this is the net difference that it would cost for each of those departments within each of those funds to carry this out.

35:19

And it's apologize.

35:20

This just came to be shortly after the proposed, so otherwise we would have included it at that time.

35:31

The last two items kind of make more sense if you start from the bottom, but uh this is just in the uh sewer operating fund and sewer capital fund, and it is related to changes in their capital projects uh timing, and uh there's two things happening.

35:52

Then FY27 on line 12A, they are just swapping projects, they're gonna postpone a uh sewer air sewer rehab area wide project, and in its place do an area wide manhole replacement project, budget neutral, and then in FY28.

36:13

They in the again 12A, they are again not doing the sewer rehab area-wide out of their enterprise capital or their cash fund.

36:26

Instead, they're deferring it to debt.

36:29

They're gonna do a uh sewer utility revenue bond for it, and so that means they don't need to transfer cash out of the operating fund to the sewer capital funds.

36:40

So in 12B, you see we're reducing revenue by two and a half million, which is the cost of that sewer rehab area-wide project, and 11a, that same revenue is not going out of the sewer operating fund now.

36:58

And since they're pivoting to accomplish the same project through debt service, we are increasing the amount that we anticipate paying in debt service that year because we'll be doing an additional project of two and a half million within that bond program in FY28.

37:15

So we're increasing debt service by a little over 68,000.

37:20

All that is wrapped up into a single decision, it just affects those different lines.

37:27

Timing of a project and changing a cash funded project to a debt funded project.

37:35

This is the recommendation of the of TMUA's board.

37:39

Does area wide mean citywide, or does it mean something smaller than the city?

37:44

It means it's citywide.

37:45

Okay, since then that is uh that's what we have.

37:58

All I got.

37:58

Do you think if there are any questions or any additional comments counselors wanted to offer on the technical change, this would be a good time to do that.

38:09

Um as you know, budget likes to have the technical change removing nicely um wrapped up prior to budget adoption.

38:18

It helps us turn it around to get back to the orderly and then.

38:23

I just wanted to assure the counselors who aren't on small budget that those of us who are have had many extra meetings to comb through this and discuss, and that's how we ended up at the 7.5 with the zoo and some of these other things, but since you all aren't on those meetings.

38:39

If you have questions, especially for those of you that are newer to the budget process, um, certainly ask them.

38:46

Um I know there was some questions around the 10 million for housing or homelessness, right?

38:56

So if you have questions, we can kind of talk through how we arrived at those things, and then um back on number one.

39:01

I think Councilor Hall Harper was just coming in on the end of it, so I don't know if we can go back, but just the 103 million is not fully outlined in the ordinance.

39:09

So I don't know if we want to just remind ourselves why that is.

39:14

Yeah, just uh yes, we can go back.

39:17

Where does the items we're on right now are four or five and six yeah, and some of that is in here, like the the 17 million for homelessness, was originally proposed for fiscal year 28 LAN.

39:30

So we took 7 million so it to date we've had a six million dollar investment for safe move, and you know, Sarah was talking about spend rate, and we've been talking about trying to get concrete numbers.

39:45

When you make a plan to do something, you say we think it's going to cost.

39:49

And from clutch, we've heard everything from 10 million to start, 20 million, and then 30 million.

39:54

Now we're actually implementing something, and we're not even at the six million, you know, we're not on pace necessarily to spend six million right now because the receipts haven't come in, although they've assured us that there's kind of a pent up collection of things that are gonna start rolling through, and so I think we wanted to take a more conservative approach and say yes, we believe in the work, we've worked on it for a long time, um, trying to get the city to invest more, so we're gonna come in at that six to to confirm to everyone yes, we we are in this, but it seemed a little um getting in over our skis to just jump in at 10 or 17.

40:30

And once we put those dollars there, you know, it's harder to hold on to those purse strings from our standpoint.

40:35

But that doesn't mean we're not committed to doing the work, it's just when you have a plan to do something, it's different than when you have concrete, this is what the plan is costing, and this is how much we can do at this time.

40:48

So I think I captured that well, but I didn't I know some of you, you know, are very strong advocates for the work, and I didn't want you to just think we were diverting funds or something.

40:58

Just more to hold on to them till we, you know, meet to open.

41:02

We have a concrete plan.

41:03

Yeah, the next strong.

41:09

Oh, we've been back there yet.

41:11

We can go back, but yeah, Councilor Bellis.

40:59

Oh, I can always wait if you want to cover that.

41:15

Well, that's number item one.

41:16

We can go back.

41:17

Okay, no, I was just gonna mention, and I know Sarah kind of already like covered some of the mental health funding, and I know like that this was brought to small budget, um, that I've been talking more with from Healthy Minds presented the other day about funding, and I did want to talk about like what's present or like we're it sounds like it's being pursued this year versus just stuff with logical three hours for future budget cycles or other budget amendments is like you know, you came to talk about the COPES funding and then establishing a fact team, um, which the fact team I know there's been identified uh like grant funding that can be used for that to help launch that and bring in batch dollars to get that going this year, and that then for um copes would he like we'd have to really identify some other ongoing revenue for that, and so I know that like getting an amendment to like figure that out this year isn't in the cards, and there's also of course like state funding questions and so much else.

42:05

Um, and so I just wanted to like level set with everyone that we're like after talking more with Zach and with Star's Health, and I know the small budget committee had been discussing this, um, that like you know, what I kind of really backed with healthy minds and what we can do to keep supporting copes, especially after having such a successful pilot year of integration, was like, okay, this now gives us a year of runway going into next year to see like what's needed, um, what comes forward, what family and children's services kind of um budget needs to end up looking like, and just assuring them that you know we're regardless, you know, committed to that effort since it's just had such a successful pilot here, and that if we, you know, if the bottom falls out, like in the city needs to identify help to make sure coast keeps happening, that like you know, I'm sure a lot of us would be interested in pursuing doing that, though I know we can't like integrated into like the general fund magically this year.

42:52

Um, but I appreciate that for everyone, I know it's not like the small budget committee, I know that those discussions have been ongoing, and I don't know, I appreciate everyone's committed to mental health funding, and I'm glad that we figured out some creative way to get the fact team going.

43:04

And it's a clarifying thing just for because this came up um like I I learned that there's a fact that can stand for different types of the same sort of team, and just to clarify for folks, um family children's services has a flexible act team, and that this would be for an on the record too, a forensic act team, and those are different.

43:21

So that was good because I'd someone be like, oh, you're supporting a fact team.

43:23

We already have those, that they're a different type of structure, so that the ones that we're looking at that doesn't exist as uh health mindset that doesn't exist would be um forensic, it's more SQ people who also have like like significant mental health needs paired with criminal justice involvement, and that like the flexible act teams are a different model than that.

43:42

But yeah, anyway, thank things everybody are just again wanted to put the COPS thing on the radar for future budget years, since I know I can understand why an amendment this year would be challenging.

43:51

Yeah, and it definitely puts all eyes on state funding for mental health as well that we all should follow to make sure that um that it keeps funding being funded and no more uh cuts.

44:08

Uh to that.

44:09

That's one of the things we talked about with the governor's race and you know, a change in leadership coming.

44:14

We as a municipality cannot be expected to catch all of the shortcomings of state and federal funding, and we wouldn't be very judicious.

44:22

Yeah, but we also know that we believe heavily in what we're doing here, and so I think there would be an ongoing assessment, and we're not gonna let ourselves fail.

44:30

No, but I do think for all of us, it is incumbent on us to continue to press upon our state and federal counterparts to see what we're doing here and demand that they do not undermine it, um, just by not getting the work done.

44:46

And same thing on child care and a lot of the other things that we are at the bottom catching all of our people and trying to hold them up.

44:55

Counselor Bangle, did you have something you wanted to say?

44:59

I thought you were you raised your hand earlier.

45:02

Okay, counselor Dutton.

45:04

I'm wondering, um, what responsibility also and participation the county is going to have with the mental health um aspect, the county jail, especially, because the people that've become incarcerated are utilizing municipal services.

45:28

For mental health assessments and whatnot.

45:33

I think there used to be in their language that they were charged with taking care of like indigent people and things like that.

45:40

The language.

45:41

Oh, is it?

45:29

Yeah.

45:43

But they also have opioid um abatement.

45:46

And I don't know if that qualifies for what we're doing with COPS, but I think Zach is pretty um open to looking at any and all options.

45:56

Yeah.

45:57

So I think when if we have a legislative round table planned, we this definitely should be on there right now.

46:04

And here's the thing.

46:04

I do think our Tulsa representatives and senators are lockstep with us.

46:09

It's just how do we have that bigger conversation?

46:11

And we may need to form a coalition maybe with Oklahoma City and Oklahoma County.

46:17

The more urbanized areas that are doing this kind of work so that we can really form a coalition of MOOCs.

46:24

Yeah.

46:25

Yeah.

46:26

I can appreciate that.

46:27

And I also was thinking about the animal services aspect of the county.

46:33

Back on item B.

46:36

What about it?

46:37

Having the county paper.

46:39

Yeah.

46:40

Where's what is their role going to be in helping us in the municipality?

46:47

Yeah, we've tried that discussion and we will continue.

46:52

Yep.

46:53

So I appreciate it.

46:55

Yep.

46:55

Councillor Archie.

46:56

Yeah, I was just uh looking this just to piggyback on this mental health um train of thought this morning.

47:03

We were with the auditor.

47:05

He um the annual risk assessment for evaluate the 918.

47:10

So they did the 918 evaluate, 2500 folks responded, and he broke down the results per district, and um he wants to do like a presentation with people individually.

47:22

But I'll just share from my district, he surveyed 420 people from my district, tons of information, but one of the uh things that they rank um they ranked were um favorability and disfavorability ratings on um access to services and amenities in my district um access to mental health and substance abuse support has a net 30 negative uh rating, meaning folks in my district are overwhelmingly saying they feel like they don't have access to mental health and substance uh abuse support, quality of mental health and substance abuse yeah, support, yeah, negative.

48:09

So I mean what I'm saying is the people in my district they want you know uh things like the fact team and access to to mental health.

48:18

I I do think that you know we have to work to get it done at the state level or at the city level because um part of quality of life is access to those resources.

48:33

So it was just interesting how we had the discussion today, and there's data uh that the auditor is collecting it's saying folks across the city.

48:42

Um in fact, the city the net negative favorability rating for access to mental health is a negative uh 29%, and so people will use there.

48:54

Well, the NCI supports all that too.

48:56

If you check out your neighborhoods and your oldest workforce type of issues, right?

49:03

If I can just add to that, um we can I know that there have been historical issues as like a workforce pipeline issue that maybe we could add to like that legislative mental health kind of discussion, which is that there's like licensing for mental health professionals who come into Oklahoma from another state.

49:17

We don't have I think we could double check, but I don't think we don't have license reciprocity, or that's an issue that's been brought to me in the past, and I think that would need to be like a state policy change.

49:26

Yeah, the next county is how that's still a problem.

49:28

Okay, yeah.

49:29

Um, but yeah, that is a challenge for people who like yeah, move here from elsewhere.

49:33

They're like may have like all the skills and certifications, but then they'd have to go through a whole thing to be able to practice here right away, and it could take a really long time or they might not end up practicing.

49:44

So that could go.

49:45

Just we'll just make our legislative list.

49:46

Let's go.

49:48

Any other questions, concerns on those?

49:53

Do you want to go over just that there are two more kinds of talks?

49:58

Yeah, the budget ordinance is just saying what they are.

50:04

Um we have the ordinance adopting the you know budget.

50:07

Uh, it says the emergency operating reserve at 10%.

50:10

So that's or it's that full 10% during the year we received enough from FEMA to get that established back to the 10%.

50:19

So that's where that is.

50:21

That's good.

50:21

That's wonderful.

50:23

We should celebrate that.

50:24

Yeah, we should.

50:26

How long have we been waiting on that?

50:28

Everybody gets a diet code.

50:33

I don't have to see in my folder of the capital plan.

50:36

Yeah, that's it.

50:36

It's the the next one item five or uh five or six six is simply just adopting the capital plan in your budget, the corresponding section, the budget focus, chapter six, and it is just the uh the five-year plan of anticipated capital spending and master plans.

50:55

So that's uh both in the department highlights and fund summaries you can see the F.7 FY28 uh capital budgets, and this ordinance item is just the plan that the uh administration brings to the council every year for planning purposes of what the capital programs should be over the next five years, are there any questions we could go back to Councillor Hull Harper's question?

51:23

Any other budget questions?

51:26

Anybody have any other questions?

51:29

If you have changes, now would be the time to say them.

51:32

Yep.

51:34

Going.

51:35

Okay.

51:36

All right.

51:37

Now we can go over uh Councilor Hall Harper's.

51:41

So I think Councillor Hull Harper had a question on the ground ordinance and just what is what are the bold items.

51:46

Yeah, that's so the bold items, these on so on page two.

51:50

If you look at that, so for example, starting with field trees, those are those are already in the ordinance.

51:56

Um what was added was and operations on guild grease.

52:00

The bold are just project titles, and then if you look down at the bottom, so for example, Tulsa Performing Arts Center, that's the title, but some of the items have a further description that's not in bold.

52:12

That's that's all that that indicates.

52:14

And then the substance of the changes is are on page three, um, and so from the mayor came and presented a couple of weeks ago and the proposal, there are two primary changes.

52:27

Um the first was the municipal court lockup facility.

52:32

It was originally just listed as that.

52:34

This expands that item to include demolition or a new facility or rehab, um, or public facilities located within in arena district or convention hotel.

52:46

And so those that entire 18.9 million dollars could still all be used for courts and jail facility, but it also provides more flexibility um if other funding sources are needed um for different projects, and then um, ask a question just on that point.

53:04

So it does it it is it is just in in the arena district or meeting court or lock up jail.

53:13

Those are only three things that could be used for or end, right?

53:20

Say your question a different way.

53:22

I know.

53:23

Well, it's the including but not limited to.

53:26

So I guess it it's it can happen in the arena district regardless of what it says underneath or after that including but not limited to.

53:40

I want to say yes, if I'm understanding your question correctly.

53:44

So long as it's in the district, yes, yes, yeah.

53:47

But I do think we put um that the lock the jail or lockup and courts could happen outside the arena district.

53:55

So if you used it to build a new court, that could go outside.

53:58

So if it's muni court, yeah, at 41st and 129th east, then it can be there.

54:05

But it can all be spent in the arena district for implosion of some other facility that we have and you just made up that location because Kevin's years just perfect on that.

54:17

Oh yeah, I know what I totally did.

54:19

Because we talk about it often.

54:20

There's a place you can get previous.

54:22

Okay.

54:25

Oh, yeah, I know.

54:26

I totally made that up.

54:28

And 101st in Yam.

54:30

Yeah.

54:27

I'll pick up my own district.

54:32

Yeah.

54:27

I was like a poor RV's right there.

54:42

It will be really astonishing if it goes there.

54:44

I'll be like, I told you.

54:45

I guess there's been listen.

54:47

And then that the other change Councilor Harbor was under E.

54:52

There was there's grant applications for the public safety center in progress.

54:57

And so we do not know if or when we will receive a grant, but if we do, um that just says that the it's not $35 million plus that grant.

55:08

Um it's the grant funds, whatever gets offset by that will go back for further consideration of what you would like to use those funds for.

55:18

So the grant would supplant.

55:19

Yes.

55:20

Speaking of supp oh, please go ahead.

55:23

What is this in the green funding?

55:28

Those are um is that 50,000?

55:30

All the design is that.

55:32

No, it's what is that supposed to be.

55:37

Are you serious?

55:42

This is actually Jack's fall.

55:43

What is it?

55:44

What is the number?

55:45

Four million, one hundred and fifty thousand.

55:48

One hundred, she called.

55:49

Sorry.

55:49

She calls right when you're talking, not good.

55:52

I mean, I'm not sure.

56:00

Well, Christy.

56:01

Oh, it's five million or nothing she's saying.

56:04

Four million one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

56:07

Okay.

56:08

Did we got a cover up on her?

56:09

I'd be red like Christmas or top.

56:15

And that's just gonna take all of us out today.

56:19

Okay, okay, now that's what the number is now.

56:22

You finish the explanation, please.

56:24

Um, that's that is just a line that that has been at that's been there since the beginning.

56:29

Uh it provides an offset to the general fund for some of the the monies that would have been there if it had not been for incentives given, and those incentives could be the retail incentives that are given, or it could be the TIFFs that agreements that we've entered into that have that money flowing into those TIFF projects, but it's not for any particular project, it just kind of helps offset that cost burden in the general fund.

56:56

Okay.

56:59

Have a question.

57:00

Speaking of like uh Counselor Archie.

57:03

Thank you so much.

57:03

Uh well, she said it this questions with time, right?

57:06

Right.

57:07

Um for you to raise your hand so I can appreciate it.

57:11

Um, the 800,000.

57:13

Speaking of what's happening in your district, the OU that this demolition, the 800,000.

57:20

If let's just say whoever owns it, they're like, oh, we'll demo it, whatever it is.

57:26

Can that money be used for the courts?

57:30

Not not just automatically.

57:32

We could, if once that is resolved, we could come back with some budget and then then amend the budget, but not without some type of changes, or coming to this table.

57:43

Okay.

57:44

Yeah, I just thought about if we're pursuing grants for for uh for some of this, and it was supplant, well, we'd have to spend you know, demolition on one could be used for the other, but we'd just have to wait and see what happens.

57:59

So, thank you.

58:02

Okay, anybody else want to raise their hand to be to ask a question?

58:10

Counselor Hall Harbour.

58:11

So just tell me what the subtotal is supposed to be.

58:14

The total at the bottom is six hundred million, six hundred and sixty thousand dollars.

58:23

Okay.

58:24

That's a sixes, yeah, and then strike throughs and stuff, yeah.

58:31

I think the green and the blue is just a little hard to back up.

58:34

Yeah, we're numbers.

58:37

Yeah, it's got the full number, instead of all these strike it, the red line is the same.

58:42

It looked like a billion or a trillion.

58:45

I can't even it's dry out if it's confused, right?

58:48

Yeah.

58:48

Yeah.

58:48

Well, the green and the blue is a little hard to just link together.

58:53

The original.

58:55

Yeah, which is very aggressive.

58:58

Any other questions?

59:01

Speak now or forever hold your piece.

59:04

We're bringing concerns up on the budget.

58:59

Can we just explain one more time that $18 million plus $500,000?

59:13

Yes, economic development priorities.

59:15

So that is a bucket that is not being appropriated in this year's budget.

59:22

It could be, yes.

59:24

So it's it's in the Brown ordinance, but it's not being appropriated.

59:27

And so I think moving further, council would need to develop a plan for how you want to utilize those funds.

59:35

So this just makes those available for economic development priorities or or community development projects.

59:42

So you can you can determine to do those on large projects, or you can determine to do them on a multiple number of projects, but I think you would need to develop a further plan on how those would be utilized.

59:54

And does that need to be done before the budget?

59:58

No, it doesn't need to be done before the budget.

1:00:03

Counselor Archie, thank you for raising your hands for sure.

1:00:07

I appreciate it.

1:00:08

Uh yeah, so that was a question.

1:00:10

Uh, because there's been some conversation about how to use the money or divide the money up, etc.

1:00:16

Yeah, but it doesn't have to be decided before we give a thumbs up or thumbs down to this one.

1:00:23

No, you would so the Brown ordinance, you need to decide that you're okay setting aside a bucket for 18 and a half million dollars for economic development priorities.

1:00:31

Um, and then there's nothing in the appropriations this year that you're appropriating that bucket to something comes up later mid-year, you decide there is you figured out the eighteen and a half million.

1:00:45

There's nothing that says a budget amendment can't come after a project is adopted.

1:00:51

Okay, there's a little bit of a council of the harper.

1:00:56

So when you say this year, are you talking about the current year we've been next to FY27?

1:01:02

Okay, yeah, a new testation.

1:01:07

Just kidding.

1:01:11

All right, okay.

1:01:12

I'm gonna let um the finance team is gonna stay here, but I'm gonna go back to my seat.

1:01:16

Okay, so we're gonna move on uh to other items.

1:01:21

Item number seven ordinance authorizing the mayor to transfer unexpected and unencumbered appropriations of one hundred thousand dollars or less from one account to another within the same department of the city with uh with certain expectations.

1:01:37

This expires July 31st, 2026.

1:01:42

This is a budget ordinance that's brought uh every year.

1:01:45

Um this is essentially to allow the uh government to conduct uh business a little more rapidly than six weeks' notice on smallish matters.

1:01:57

Um it's fairly restrictive in that no more than a hundred thousand over the course of a year, it can be transferred.

1:02:04

The money has to stay within the exact same fund within the exact same department.

1:02:09

It may only move between uh an account group from like personal services to materials and supplies or to other services, etc.

1:02:18

But uh the money as a whole remains within the fund in the department as the council originally appropriated it.

1:02:26

And this just uh permits the mayor to uh move it without prior council approval within those account groups.

1:02:34

Just to add that these requests typically come from the departments themselves asking to make the change to accommodate something that they need.

1:02:43

Okay, counselor Dick Dorite.

1:02:45

Thank you.

1:02:46

Yeah, this is kind of just standard operating procedure that we I think do every year.

1:02:51

Um having been on the small budget committee now for some time.

1:02:55

I would just like to see if we could add or strengthen some language about reporting.

1:02:59

So I'm looking at Jack.

1:03:00

I don't know if we need to add it in the ordinance.

1:03:03

Um that the council will receive written and electronically distributed monthly reports on these transfers and as with as much detail as is possible.

1:03:12

Um, we kind of have audited the reports that have come to the small budget committee, and there's just some missing information or like month after month, no information, and so you yes, we want to keep things efficient, but we just want to make sure there's not Swiss G's happening.

1:03:28

Yeah.

1:03:29

Because at the end of the day, like our number one charge to be aside from all of us keeping our citizens healthy and safe, is to manage the money.

1:03:39

And so we really do need to see where things are going and why.

1:03:45

So there's a couple that have happened in the recent past that I think for my purposes I would have preferred, maybe came to our table and had a discussion before we just unilaterally, especially at reoccurring expense.

1:03:57

So if it's a one-time thing, that's a one-time expense, that's a different obligation that we have as fiduciaries than moving money to all of a sudden like hire somebody, and then you see in the budget proposal a new position that comes along with that obligation.

1:04:12

So you know, we might have discussed it and everyone said, Oh, that's fine, we all support this, but when you start seeing these obligations kind of trickle in before a formal proposal and discussion, that's kind of a flag for me.

1:04:24

So is that something we need to add to the ordinance language, Jack?

1:04:29

So is that something we can put in before we vote on it?

1:04:32

Yes, okay.

1:04:33

I think Sarah, will you help with that?

1:04:36

Thank you.

1:04:38

Yes, council.

1:04:40

So around there, you're talking about just as it applies to this, or well, the other stuff does.

1:04:48

Any time throughout the budgetary process, there's those transfers.

1:04:53

So throughout the year these transfers happen, right?

1:04:56

So you're I just want to make sure that we're getting as often.

1:04:59

So not focused specifically just on the exercise of passing this budget, but you're talking about just mayoral transfers when they have that year.

1:05:09

I think a monthly, yeah.

1:05:10

I think a monthly email in writing to the full council.

1:05:13

Because even small budget, right?

1:05:16

Then there's a delay, and then that goes to the full council.

1:05:18

It's just when like on a monthly basis, put it in an email, and that can help us also monitor one-time expenses versus reoccurring expenses that then get.

1:05:29

I just wanted to add it as an oh no, we're in discussion, yeah.

1:05:35

Counselor Lake and can we just add it as an attachment to that small budget report that we get monthly?

1:05:41

We can attach something.

1:05:44

We can attach something, but I think what she wants to call it.

1:05:47

I think you're saying that you were wanting it potentially more frequently or sooner than I think to the full group more frequently than it has been coming.

1:05:55

It does come to us in the small budget, but it's some kind of here, there and everywhere right now, yeah.

1:05:59

So we're getting the information.

1:06:01

For what you're asking, you guys do I'm just asking that it be part of something that we're used to already getting rather than something else rather than another email.

1:06:10

However, we want to do it, but I just think to the full council, which I know that the small budget committee gets our information and then it the same day or later that day, it goes to the full council.

1:06:21

But maybe we could include it in the weekly update.

1:06:24

Yeah, I think it just needs to have its own time.

1:06:28

Like what we had to do is a staff member had to comb through and pull all that stuff together for a report.

1:06:33

That should not be something that our staff is doing.

1:06:36

So if we could just ask, I mean, the mayor's office knows when they're making these transfers, so they can just one of their admins could put it on the list and then send it to us on a monthly basis, and that way maybe we can have some earlier on discussions when we see something.

1:06:53

But I mean, I appreciate that our staff took the time as we had questions to go find all the things and put them on a table for us, but that flag for me that we should just have that monthly from the mayor's office because I'm sure they already there's some way that you already know what's coming through like that when it when it's needed.

1:07:13

Yeah.

1:07:14

Counselor Lakin, did you have more?

1:07:16

Um just a question.

1:07:18

So if the department has said, hey, I need to move a million from materials to personnel.

1:07:24

I'd say no, because it's a million.

1:07:26

999,000.

1:07:28

Yeah, but the question is could they could the mayor just do 99,000 uh 10 plus times?

1:07:38

No.

1:07:39

Okay.

1:07:40

Why?

1:07:40

Because the ordinance reads a hundred thousand throughout the course of a year or so oh throughout the course of the year for that account group.

1:07:47

Just a single hundred thousand, and that's it, not multiple iterations of a hundred thousand.

1:07:53

Okay, for example, we had a department this week asking, and and staff went back to look at prior MTs to see if we had done one for them in the past.

1:08:02

Um I was thinking of was actually last year.

1:07:59

So about a hundred thousand could still create a position, which then becomes a recurring cost that we have to do, versus a one-time on a monthly.

1:08:16

A washing machine is very different.

1:08:18

Then we are going to hire two new people.

1:08:22

So it's just a different way to present the information to us so that we can be thinking strategically about some of the things that are happening.

1:08:33

Yeah.

1:08:37

Alright, counselor Lakin, are you done?

1:08:40

Okay.

1:08:40

Counselor Dutton.

1:08:42

Yeah, I think that's a great idea, and I think that will also help those of us that are new on council to better understand what we're actually talking about when it comes to the budgetaries expenditures.

1:08:55

I think it would really be helpful.

1:08:57

It would have been helpful for me to have information sooner rather than later.

1:09:01

Yeah, and just you know, budgets are a plan.

1:09:05

And you can see like we already had all those technical changes where it was carried forwards because we couldn't get the things done, or there's positions that we thought we would hire, we did it, and so that you can see where that even within the rules money can move.

1:09:18

So it's just something we need to keep an eye on.

1:09:20

Okay.

1:09:21

Absolutely.

1:09:22

Okay.

1:09:23

Any other questions, concerns on this item?

1:09:27

All right.

1:09:27

Moving forward.

1:09:29

For the record, we've had counselor Hall Harper, thanking me for another good idea today.

1:09:34

But you already reached your constituents on my social media called me out for a mistake I made.

1:09:39

So we're three for three today.

1:09:43

All right, item number eight resolution as part of the FY26, 27 annual budget ratifying and affirming a certain capital improvement projects agreement, uh, dated April 1st, 2021 between the city of Tulsa and the uh Tulsa Public Facilities Authority, whereby the authority issued four million uh three hundred and fifteen thousand dollars in parking bonds to refund the Tulsa Parking Authority.

1:10:12

Is there any possibility that they could do eight through sixteen together or uh I will say that and you can see on the front of the uh each RFA it says they're a packet one of nine to have not your time, these were all uh ratifying project agreements with TPFA and TPA for debt that they had issued on.

1:10:32

Oh, do you want me to read all those?

1:10:34

The TPFA, which one?

1:10:36

Do you want me to read those other items?

1:10:39

I was trying to save you the fabric.

1:10:41

Okay, that's fine, all of them along with the you are welcome to, but thank you.

1:10:46

It's a lot.

1:10:48

But they they're all essentially a large and a large thing.

1:10:53

They're all essentially the same purpose, just for different uh debt activities that have occurred over the past years, and it's just the city's annual commitment that we will continue to uh pay down that debt service and carry out that project agreement for each of those nine.

1:11:12

Okay, so that takes us to 17.

1:11:19

Sorry, I was gonna sneeze.

1:11:23

So that you weren't Vanessa.

1:11:26

Item number 17, ordinance amending the fiscal year 25-26 budget to make supplemental appropriations of nine million four hundred fifteen thousand dollars recognized from the unappropriated fund balance within the general fund, twelve thousand dollars within the MSA utility fund, twelve thousand within the technology fee assessment fund, twenty-seven thousand dollars within the public ways fund, five hundred thousand dollars within the public safety sales tax fund, seven hundred seventy-five thousand uh within at the stormwater enterprise fund, and five hundred and sixty-five thousand within the sewer operating fund.

1:12:10

Yes, this is what we have uh, uh colloquially called the year-end budget action.

1:12:19

Um it's uh we review all the accounts, all the departments, and uh look at what may need uh authorization for additional appropriations before the year's end so that we can all remain in balance and in compliance with the Oklahoma Municipal Budget Act.

1:12:29

And so these are departments in the fund the funds that will we believe will need additional dollars to be able to complete the year and remain in within budget.

1:12:44

And I'll start at the top and work my way down.

1:12:50

Um it's just a couple departments, and there is two or three common themes that touches all of them.

1:12:59

For police and fire, you'll see uh we'll start with the well.

1:13:05

Sorry, I'll start on the ordinance, and maybe that'll make the most sense to look.

1:13:10

The general fund human resources department, 150,000 extra or dollars to their personal services.

1:13:19

Um, every one of the general fund departments, this is the additional dollars the FY26 uh increased compensation on non-sworn staff received was not budgeted in the original budget, and so uh the large portion of this that 150 covers as well as there was just some variances in vacancies throughout the course of the year that weren't budgeted completely precisely in the beginning, but this will uh cover those, and it's not a sizable percent of their overall budget, uh legal department.

1:13:56

It is the same story for the FY26 raise, and it's uh interesting case of the way that salary and benefit projections are done for departments when we look at prior year positions, what's filled, what's not filled, at what level to predict what it's gonna look like in the future, and so comparing last year's base group to this year's base group.

1:14:24

Uh, there were some higher graded positions that were vacant at the time that we developed the original budget that then later got filled, and so there wasn't enough money budgeted to uh cover that gap uh as anticipated in the beginning.

1:14:42

Um, all of all departments are budgeted with the assumption that vacant positions will probably remain unfilled for several months, but it's it's an estimate for how long they will remain unfilled.

1:14:53

That is the primary uh explanation for legal department police department 6.2 million is primarily the uh increased compensation as part of uh the negotiations that were resolved with the FOP.

1:15:12

Uh I believe Erica presented to the council on the 13th of that 6.2 in the general fund about three million or so of across all funds was 3.7 million, was related to the FY26 raise that was negotiated.

1:15:33

So that's over half of the 6.2.

1:15:36

Um another 2 million is roughly uh overtime due to various reasons, but a large degree uh the vacancies that they continue to maintain, and then the last uh million or so a little less than that is due to separations not occurring at the high rate that we anticipated when we developed the FY26 budget.

1:16:07

There was the state language, I believe that uh the colour adjustment for retirement at the end of this coming year.

1:16:18

Uh we were all under the impression that there would be more uh police officers that would seek retirement before this year was over, as it turns out it was probably gonna happen next year before they retire.

1:16:31

So we budgeted with an expectation that roughly there would be four separations a month for the year, and roughly maybe one a month is happened throughout the course of the year, so more positions stayed filled in curring costs throughout the year than what we budgeted for, so that put them over a little bit as well.

1:16:56

Fire department, it is roughly basically just the FY26 negotiated compensation that they received.

1:16:59

There is, I you know, I know you see me come to the table every year talking about overtime, but they have performed very well with overtime.

1:17:16

No additional funds are being sought for overtime for the police for the fire department this year.

1:17:21

It is simply the raise they received.

1:17:24

Yes.

1:17:24

Compliments to the department and everybody.

1:17:27

Diligently to do that.

1:17:28

Round of applause.

1:17:32

Animal services, there's a hundred and ten thousand for personnel personal services.

1:17:38

That is I'll plant the reminder that this is its first year to be a standalone department, so there's very little history to build a budget on for what they will typically assume, and plus in all previous years, they've had the safety net of code enforcement and all the other areas of the department of planning and neighborhood planning to uh catch any budget excesses.

1:18:04

But they did maintain vacancies, but animal services is very good at backfilling uh vacant positions through independent employment temp staffing, and so the net effect of that was there wasn't actually a whole lot of vacancy savings created through that, in addition to uh they did have a fair chunk of overtime.

1:18:28

So this year it looks like they'll need about 110 to finish the year for their salaries.

1:18:34

I'll mention that in FY27 budget, the council did approve an additional 130,000 for overtime this next year, so that should be less of an issue in addition to the new positions that they received.

1:18:51

There was no but no overtime budgeted in this FY26 for them because we had the expectation that vacancies would make up that difference.

1:19:00

Other services and charges is uh simply a timing issue.

1:19:07

They had a collision in FY25 when they were under a different department, uh, happened at the very end of the year, so the uh equipment management billing did not occur until this year, so it hit them and it's so it wasn't uh previously considered in their original budget, so this is an additional cost that they were not expecting.

1:19:29

So, this will cover those repairs to their uh equipment and vehicles, and the last is materials and supplies, and that is I alluded to that the technical changes as to why we were increasing their FY27 budget.

1:19:43

This is just the spend rate has been pretty hot for chemicals, lab services, and food, so this will help them finish the year and be able to purchase what they need to do their jobs.

1:19:59

Um the next several going down.

1:20:01

Uh, mayor's office of economic development, the planning and neighborhoods in the MC Utility Fund, police department and the tech fee fund, planning and neighborhoods in the public ways fund, public police department in the public safety tax fund.

1:20:19

These are all primarily related to the FY26 raises non-sworn received that were not in the original budget.

1:20:27

This will cover that offset that they didn't have sufficient funds to cover scrolling down to the stormwater enterprise fund with the public works department.

1:20:41

This is they're gonna need the around 775,000 roughly to finish the year in their personnel accounts.

1:20:49

This is related to uh allocation change to their staff that occurred after the budget adoption lap for this current year.

1:20:59

Um they have staff that do stormwater-related services.

1:21:03

We budget for them in the past in the general fund, and the stormwater fund reimburses at a rate of 95% for those services.

1:21:11

Uh Public Works reevaluated what they did, what the what that staff does determined that they don't really perform any general fund services.

1:21:19

Said it's more appropriate for enterprise to pick up full cost, so they started charging everything to the stormwater enterprise fund.

1:21:26

And so at that point, it was just a matter of the funding was in the wrong fund, and so this corrects that.

1:21:36

And sewer operating fund for the water and sewer department is 465,000 for personnel and 100,000 for materials and supplies.

1:21:57

So we all had a very wet summer previously.

1:22:00

It created more uh overflow issues than they typically see, so they just had to send additional staff out to remediate those throughout the course of the year, which resulted in additional overtime.

1:22:15

And materials and supplies is primarily related to chemicals purchases.

1:22:20

They have an annual contract that we thought we'd been seeing at plateau, but we built in about three or four percent increase for this year.

1:22:29

Um there's only one bidder on the contract, and they had a 12% increase, so without any other options, that's the price we have to pay, and so there wasn't quite enough funds budgeted for their chemicals for the water treatment, water sewer treatment.

1:22:48

That will cover that cost, and that will land should land all departments in the black at the end of FY26.

1:22:56

Can I ask a quick question?

1:22:58

Absolutely going back to the public safety tax.

1:23:01

So the police side of that, that's just taking care of the uh the negotiated uh salaries within the officers within that fund.

1:23:11

Is that correct?

1:23:13

Yes, okay.

1:23:14

Yes, ma'am.

1:23:15

Okay, thank you.

1:23:19

Any other questions?

1:23:22

All right, okay.

1:23:24

One more.

1:23:26

One more.

1:23:27

Um item number 18 ordinance amending fiscal year 25-26 budget to transfer availability of available appropriations of 180,400, uh eight dollars and fifty-three cents uh between departments, projects, and account groups within the American Rescue Plan Act.

1:23:49

This I'll stick to the slide, it kind of helps it be a little more clear.

1:23:54

This is essentially going through projects that are completed and uh re-allocating those dollars to where they're needed to complete other things on within the finance department.

1:24:05

Uh those projects down below, Rudasil, citizens application, urban strategies, uh Tulsia Area United Way, and uh Housing Choice Voucher, um, all reached the uh end of the terms, were completed or ended, and so there was about $80,000 uh left over, and so that was put to ARPA administration for the staff that continues to monitor report and do all the paperwork for the Fed required by the feds to finish out the ARPA program on the department of planning neighborhoods.

1:24:45

Um again, that little bit of money was moved out of the Gulf Course infrastructure, the rest came from those projects above and finance.

1:24:53

They moved into Department of Planning and Neighborhoods, and it's going to be used for the uh pre-approved uh plan program, I believe it was uh recommendation of the 3H task force uh previously, and so this will partially get them to having that funded.

1:25:11

I believe they are uh in the process of gathering up the remaining funds that they need for that from other sources.

1:25:22

Okay, any other questions or any questions on that item, Councilor Deck or Councillor Bella.

1:25:27

Sorry, don't worry, as we share last night and pins.

1:25:30

Um sorry, it's in the legal document too soon.

1:25:33

Okay, um, is just to clarify a question about the housing authority vouchers.

1:25:40

Um can someone explain that more to me?

1:25:42

Like I'm fine.

1:25:43

Oh, yeah, that's correct.

1:25:46

Is here to explain that in that 3H task force.

1:25:49

That was an original action step, but due to changing federal circumstances, not one changes, so I'm trying to realign this thing.

1:25:57

Travis can explain that.

1:25:58

Yeah, as a little housing choice vouch might be a little confusing.

1:26:02

So if you recall back the task force, we had talked about we call it a housing priority program where we were essentially working with the housing authority to get people placed into housing through a voucher type program.

1:26:16

We're not paying for those vouchers, it was essentially paying for staff to administer that program.

1:26:22

The long or the short of that kind of history and stories that that fell apart.

1:26:27

That didn't happen.

1:26:31

So that was what that $150,000 was going to go towards.

1:26:36

And so since that's not happening, that money would be reallocated to the pre-approved plans program.

1:26:43

Okay.

1:26:46

I think that's helpful.

1:26:48

Pardon me knows I know there's so much rental assistance and so many other things I wish we could also do with it.

1:26:55

So I think we also want to get those plans moving.

1:26:57

On ARPA funds, the only things you can reallocate those two are the things that were on the big ARPA list.

1:27:04

So pre-approved plans was on that list to do the process and the consulting, and what this will do is allow people to access those plans.

1:27:37

Counselor Hall Harper.

1:27:44

I think it was a generator.

1:27:51

I know there was a change in like generator design at some point, but yeah.

1:27:57

Yes.

1:27:58

It's just the residual amount that they didn't request, so they didn't have an invoice for it.

1:28:03

But they were they completed it and that was what was left.

1:28:07

But this is related to the new construction.

1:28:12

Okay.

1:28:13

I think Rodrigo came to present on it as like part of a community Rodrigo, like a couple years ago, as part of a community resilience type match, and a generator was part of that.

1:28:31

You good?

1:28:33

Okay.

1:28:34

Any other questions?

1:28:38

All right, I am happy to read item 19.

1:28:41

We are going to do it.

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Summary of Proceedings

Tulsa City Council Budget Special Projects Meeting - June 3, 2026

The meeting was called to order at 1:00 p.m. on Wednesday, June 3, 2026. The primary focus was the adoption of the FY2026-27 budget, along with several related ordinances and resolutions. Key discussions included amendments to the Vision Fund surplus allocation, technical changes to the proposed budget, and supplemental appropriations for the current fiscal year.

Discussion Items

  • Ordinance Amending Title 43K (Vision Fund Surplus): The ordinance adjusts the allowable uses for the $103 million surplus from the 2016 limited purpose economic development sales tax. Changes include expanded flexibility for the municipal court/lockup project to allow demolition, new construction, rehabilitation, or use for public facilities within the arena district or a convention hotel. Additionally, if grant funding is received for the public safety center, those funds will be reappropriated to other uses under the ordinance.
  • Ordinance Amending Title 45 (Use Tax): This restores the use tax allocation to the general fund by removing the 2016 language that dedicated 15% of use tax revenue to debt service for Title 43K, as that debt is no longer needed.
  • Budget Technical Changes: Staff reviewed a memo of technical changes to the proposed FY2026-27 budget. Key adjustments include:
    • $7.5 million for the Tulsa Zoo's African Wilds exhibit, contingent on the zoo raising $2.5 million from other sources.
    • $7 million in FY2028 for homelessness programs (reduced from the originally proposed $17 million), with $500,000 set aside for shelter operations.
    • $100,000 from the general fund to seed a Route 66 maintenance fund.
    • No change in FY2027 for emergency management funding, but a recommendation to reassess in FY2028 after hiring a new director.
    • Various departmental adjustments, including increased funding for animal services ($185,000 total for chemicals and food), a website developer position moved from police to communications, and demolition funding of $840,000 for two properties (one estimated at $495,000, the other at $345,000).
  • Mental Health and Homelessness Funding: The small budget committee recommended funding a forensic assertive community treatment (ACT) team using opioid dollars ($400,000 in the first year) through a future budget amendment. The COPES 911 mental health program will continue to be monitored for potential future scaling, but no FY2027 change was recommended.
  • Mayoral Transfer Authority (Item 7): Ordinance authorizing the mayor to transfer unexpended appropriations up to $100,000 within the same department and fund, expiring July 31, 2026. Councilors requested a monthly written report to the full council detailing these transfers, which was added to the ordinance.
  • Supplemental Appropriations for FY2025-26 (Item 17): Approves $9,415,000 from unappropriated fund balance in the general fund, plus amounts in other funds, to cover year-end deficits. Major drivers include police department raises and overtime ($6.2 million), fire department raises, and animal services costs.
  • ARPA Fund Reallocation (Item 18): Reallocates $180,408.53 from completed ARPA projects (e.g., Rudisill, Housing Choice Voucher program) to finance ARPA administration and pre-approved plans program recommended by the 3H Task Force.
  • Ratification of TPFA Debt Agreements (Items 8-16): Nine resolutions ratifying capital improvement project agreements with the Tulsa Public Facilities Authority and Tulsa Parking Authority for previously issued debt.

Key Outcomes

  • The ordinance amending Title 43K was presented with the noted changes; discussion indicated support.
  • The ordinance amending Title 45 was presented with no questions.
  • The technical change memo was reviewed, and councilors expressed general agreement with the recommendations, including the zoo funding and homelessness reduction.
  • The mayoral transfer ordinance was amended to include a monthly reporting requirement to the full council.
  • The supplemental appropriations for FY2025-26 were approved as presented.
  • The ARPA fund reallocation was approved.
  • All items appeared to be on track for adoption at the regular council meeting; no formal votes were taken during this worksession.

Meeting Transcript

Okay. All right. Welcome to the 1 p.m. budget special projects meeting. Today is Wednesday, June 3rd, of course, year 2026. Item number one. I call this meeting to order. Two ordinance amending Title 43K of Tulsa Revised Ordinances, which is the City of Tulsa's expenditure policy for the 2017 limited purpose economic development temporary sales tax amending the projects and purposes for which expenditures of proceeds may lawfully be made providing severability. This has the emergency clause. So this is on the Brown ordinance for the surplus 103 million in the vision fund. So last time we talked about a few modifications that you all would like to see. One of those was on the municipal court lockup jail item. That one was to provide some more flexibility for possible uses. So you will see the additional flexibility in there to include demolition of the court facility, a new court facility, including relocation cost or rehab, depending on the final plan. The public facilities with inside the arena district and also for use on a convention hotel. So still may all be used for a courts or jail facility, but this does provide flexibility on funding options. And then the other major change was down in section E, and that's related to the public safety center. So if the city does receive any sort of grant funding related to the public safety center, then those funds would be reappropriated to a different use that's governed by the ordinance. So those are the high-level changes. Just a small question. Have we already fully submitted our grant application? It's on track to get submitted. I think it's next week or the week after. I mean, for the uh grant to be when we get notification if we were no, it's a it's a rolling application, so you can apply it at any time, but I don't know that there's a decision time on that. So that's why appropriating the full amount, the 25 lets you sign your construction contracts and get moving forward because you know all of the funds are available right now. Anybody else have any other questions? Anything else in there that you want to? No, everything else, I think stayed the same from the original presentation that you received on this. Okay. Nobody has any questions. Do you I already asked? Okay, all right, and moving on to item number three, ordinance amending title 45, Tulsa Revised Ordinances Chapter 1. Titled City of Tulsa Use of Tax Code, Section 119 ending and dedicating uh 15% uh of use tax revenue uh for debt services in support of the fund created by Title 43K, which is no longer needed for such purposes. This also carries an emergency clause. So this uh this is consistent with our discussions on the budget and with the vision fund. This will just take the language away that was added in 2016 since the money is no longer needed to help with the debt service, and it'll put it back into the general fund, which is where use tax typically goes. So it'll just restore this ordinance really to the way it was prior to 2016. Anyone have any questions? Wow. Great. Okay. Um item number four. I'm going to read four, five, and six together. Four ordinance adopting the annual budget of the city of Tulsa for the fiscal year 2026-27, ordering the transfer of enterprise income of the general fund, appropriating unexpected balances for grant funds and capital project funds for fiscal year 2026-27 ordering and directing compensation and filing of levy requirements for the 2627 sinking fund of the city of Tulsa, Oklahoma revising fund balance 10% as an emergency operating and the general fund approving an emergency telephone fee of 5%. For the calendar year 27, ordering the filing of the city of Tulsa budget fiscal year 26-27 with the state auditor and inspector of the state of Oklahoma and ordering this ordinance to take effect immediately after its adoption and approval by review and discussion of proposed technical changes and to the proposed city of Tulsa FY2627 budget capital plan and six ordinance approving and adopting the capital improvement plan for the city of Tulsa for fiscal year 27 through 31 as part of the FY2627 annual budget. I got one. If it's okay, I think we'd suggest starting with the technical change memo, and we'll like go through that. Would you mind? Would you pull the technical change memo? Sorry, I left that stuff down there.

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