0:18Okay, we are ready to start our meeting this morning.
0:21Um we are in meeting number one three eight six, and first things first, we will hear brief remarks from the city to conduct the public hearing in an orderly manner manner.
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2:25If you are a frequent flyer here, you'll notice we are a board of three today.
2:30We are normally aboard of five.
2:32And uh first things first, I am not usually the chair, so I will fumble through this and rely on my friends at the city to help me uh if I'm get off course.
2:41But if you have a case today, you need three you need three of the five uh approvals for your case to move forward.
2:51And so that means today you need all three of us.
2:53If you would like to ask for a content continuance today, that is no problem.
2:57If you go right over here to the desk, no problem at all.
3:01We can get that moved.
3:02Um, and if not, we will move forward.
3:05So I don't see anyone moving towards that desk, so I'll assume we want to all just move forward today.
3:11With that, we will start with agenda item number one.
3:16Minutes for meeting 1385.
3:20Madam Chair, I make a motion to approve the minutes from meeting 1385 from June 23rd, 2026.
3:28We have a motion to we have a second.
3:32All those in favor, Mr.
3:36And I will also vote yes.
3:40Item number two, Board of Adjustment Case 24065.
3:48BOA 24065 is located at 320 South 42nd West Avenue.
3:54Our applicant is Darren Jones with an action with a request for a special exception to permit a duplex in the RS3 district.
4:02Is the applicant present?
4:05If you'll come to the microphone, give us your name and address, and tell us a little bit about your case.
4:12My name is Darren Jones.
4:14Um address is 320 South 42nd West Avenue.
4:18Darren is spelled D-A-R-R-Y-N-J-O-N-E-S.
4:22Um is my turn to speak up.
4:27Um, so my request is for a zoning exemption for the property.
4:33Um I'm looking seeking to turn it into a duplex.
4:37Um I have addressed a lot of the neighboring concerns.
4:42Um, the reason why I'm uh pursuing this is because there's an add-on to the property that was made previously before I owned it.
4:49Um and it just makes a lot of sense.
4:51Um just trying to do what seems right for this property, what makes sense for this property.
4:56Um I did provide some images for you all to see.
5:11The livable space before the addition is approximately 1,600 square feet.
5:17And I will be leaving that space as is.
5:20And it's three bedrooms, two baths, and the addition is uh two large spaces that was created for it looks like for office space previously.
5:29Um of the neighboring concerns will be parking on the street.
5:34I I'm going to address that if this is approved by adding a parking additional driveway on the left-hand side of the property.
5:42Um you can see that in some of the images.
5:46And then for the the backyard, um, I am very dog friendly, which is why I should photoshop dogs in the images there.
5:53Um, but I will split the backyard to uh make sure that there's space for both units on there.
6:01Um the front space, like I said, would be a three-two still, and then that back space unit B will be a one-one with an open concept um space, as you can see on this image that's there.
6:14That's the old layout, um, which has the add-ons, two add-ons on a back, which were permitted previously before I owned it.
6:22Um, those are the spaces that I'm proposing that I um change into a duplex uh an additional unit as pictured there uh with the blue outline, all of that would be a bedroom and a separate entrance on the back side, um, a bedroom, uh kitchen and and um living, like I said, that is an open concept with the full bath.
6:44Um the other uh concerns that and I'm speaking on behalf of some of the neighbors as well that I've I've kind of canvassed the the block just to see what would be um an issue for them and um there's some riffraff that's happening in our neighborhood, um, and they want to make sure that I bring in tenants that won't contribute to that.
7:03So in my lease, I am um upholding you know the the tenants to be accountable to the the the clutter in the front yard.
7:11There they can't park in the grass like some some others.
7:14I will make sure that that's upheld.
7:16Um and like I said, adding the extra parking will keep people off the streets because that spends a lot of the concern.
7:22So I'm trying to do my best to um hear the concerns of the neighbors, but also provide some some housing um and some good housing for for uh tenants to come great.
7:35My question was going to be have you spoken with the neighbors, but you've already addressed that.
7:42Are you are you familiar with any other duplexes in that neighborhood or are they all mostly single family?
7:47They're all mostly single family.
7:48This would be the first one that I've seen on that block.
7:51That was another concern is they they're worried about the change, like in the facade the the the building um making.
7:58So I'm not gonna change the structure.
8:00That was a bigger deal.
8:01They don't want it to look like it doesn't belong in a neighborhood.
8:04The outside will remain the same.
8:05I am gonna update it, paint it, um, power wash the the stone, um, like I said, add drive uh a new an additional driveway.
8:12Um but the structure will look the same, so it will fit into the the current mold of the neighborhood.
8:18But but I'm no I'm not aware of any additional duplexes in the neighborhood.
8:24This isn't in front of us today, um, but you might check with the city before you do that additional parking to see if that's gonna run into any red flags.
8:32Yes, I I have spoken with the city and they did give me the green green light to do that based on the existing parking with the way that uh the driveway has that half circle drive.
8:43Yeah, so it has that additional entrance that I can use to bring up to the structure.
8:56Do we have anyone here to speak on forward adjustment case 24065?
9:02Seeing none, we'll move into discussion.
9:06I have a question for staff.
9:08Um do Plexes have any requirements as far as where the entry is facing like ADUs, do no, they do not.
9:19That said, I don't have any issues with this.
9:21Seems seems in line with the neighborhood.
9:24Yeah, and um while it's not in uh and I uh and I owe overlay um the small area plan um does have a goal of increasing residential population, and so um seems harmonious to me.
9:42Madam Chair, BOA case 24065.
9:47Um I move to approve a special exception to permit a duplex in the RS3 district per the conceptual plans provided by the applicant today.
9:56Um I don't think they're numbered.
10:00And so yes, uh per the conceptual plans provided by the applicant today.
10:05The boards finds that the request of special exception will be in harmony with the spirit and intent of the code and will not be injurious to the neighborhood or otherwise detrimental to the public welfare.
10:16Do we have a second?
10:18We'll move to a vote.
10:26Moving on to case number three, Board of Adjustment Case 24066.
10:32BOA 24066 is located at 11819 East 41st Street South.
10:38Our applicant is Randy Alcosir with an request for a special exception to increase the permitted fence height of four feet within the street setback.
10:52Give us your name, address, and tell us a little bit about your case.
10:57Randy Alcoser, R-A-N-D-Y, A L C O C E R address is 11819 East 41st Street.
11:08So bought the house.
11:12And it had old, I guess peering fence piers.
11:21They were just all falling down, and I guess the fence had already fallen down, so it made and uh the city made a new sidewalk there.
11:30And um it was a little bit close, I guess you could say the car wouldn't fit with the sidewalk, it blocked the sidewalk.
11:38So we took down all those pillars.
11:40Um we were gonna put two pillars back.
11:44Um I know my picture see those pillars are are moved back.
11:47Those look like handles, but that's that's uh my skills right there.
11:51Um but yeah, so move them back so a car fits, so you got view of everything safety-wise, it won't interfere with the sidewalk.
11:59The sidewalks, the um well, little scratchy lines.
12:03Um so the new fence, I took off all the old pillars just for visibility.
12:09Um it's a raw iron fence, uh, good quality, just like you see in uh apartments or on like uh 21st, 31st, and Peoria over there in the super expensive homes.
12:21Um so it gives the house literally the whole look that I'm that I'm going for.
12:28Um so those those are examples.
12:30That's not the actual house or anything, but it gives a fancy look.
12:35It has the yard for it.
12:36The property is on a one-acre lot.
12:38Um it's uh it follows the fence line of the neighbor to the uh west, and the neighbor has an eight-foot fence, so it's gonna butt up right against their eight-foot fence and continue ours.
12:53Um so the fence would be brand new, black.
12:58Um distance from the sidewalk.
13:03So just aesthetically, and we plant some brush, you know, some nice bushes there, and it looked really nice.
13:09So the look aesthetically goes for the whole gate, you know, for the whole house.
13:14Um, and there are five properties within a mile that have that kind of style fence, which is three apartments, uh actually four apartments, uh Dove uh Academy and the QT headquarters over there, they all have the same style fence, which looks really nice.
13:34Um safety-wise, um we're gonna move in in a month.
13:40We were having a painter paint, and they broke in and stole all his equipment.
13:44So anywhere there's a QT, there's some action going on.
13:48And QT is on 41st and Garnet.
13:50So for privacy, uh security.
13:54Um I have a dog as well, so don't want the dog to jump the four-foot fence.
13:59Um I think that's pretty much it.
14:03And um, yeah, it just gives the the house a whole look.
14:07So and have you spoken with any of your neighbors?
14:12Just the neighbor on the left, and he didn't really care because the house is kind of like on 41st, or it's not in a neighborhood, it's on the main street.
14:21That's another reason why I kind of want a six-foot fence because it's there is so much traffic now, as in walking traffic.
14:28There usually there was I guess with the new sidewalk and everything, there's just way more traffic.
14:40Do we have anyone here to speak on board of adjustment case two four zero six six?
14:44Okay, with that we'll move to discussion.
14:49I don't I don't have any issues with this.
14:50Um as long as it's not uh a wood solid fence.
14:55But I mean, we're tying that to the example exhibit.
15:02Yeah, no uh issues or questions here.
15:05Do we have a motion?
15:07It's my turn, I suppose.
15:13Madam Chair and Board of Adjustment Case 24066.
15:16I move to approve a special exception to increase the permitted fence height and the street setback from four feet to six feet for the conceptual plan shown on page 311 and through 315 of the agenda packet.
15:28The board finds that the requested special exception will be in harmony with the spirit and intent of the code and will not be injurious to the neighborhood or otherwise detrimental to the public welfare.
15:37We have a motion to wave a second second.
15:40Uh we'll move to a vote.
15:49Okay, uh, agenda item number four, Board of Adjustment Case 24067.
15:56BOA 24067 is located at 1228 East 21st place South.
16:01Um, our applicant is Kenneth Vives with a request for a special exception to increase the maximum allowable driveway width in the RS2 district.
16:11Is the applicant present?
16:18Name, address, and tell us about your case.
16:23Uh Kenneth Vivas, 5550 South Lewis Avenue.
16:27Uh my client is we're relocating a detached garage on the state and moving it forward to the east property line.
16:35That way they're not driving back through the entire backyard to get to the detached garage.
16:40Uh it's existing 12-foot wide driveway, and we'd like to increase it to 18 feet wide so that we can get a two-car garage entrance into that detached garage.
16:55Okay, and have you spoken with the neighbors or has your client?
16:59I contacted all the neighbors within 300 feet and haven't heard back from any of them.
17:09Any questions from our board members?
17:16So I'm looking at the site plan that projectors are working today.
17:22Um looking at the site plan that is projected right now.
17:26Um you said you're moving forward, you're relocating the detached garage instead of the long building in the back along the west property line.
17:37Those two rooms on the right hand side of that were a three-car garage.
17:42So you would drive through kind of where the new detached garage was all the way to the other side, and then had a three-car garage back there.
17:49So we turned in that to an outdoor room and an office, and then building a new detached garage.
18:00How large is the property?
18:04Uh I don't have the that's okay.
18:07I was thinking you said an acre, but I think that was the case before you now.
18:10It's about 0.44 acres.
18:20So okay, I so I guess I'm still a little confused.
18:23So are you relocating a portion of that structure, or you've already converted that structure to the outdoor city area and office space, and you're building a new totally new two-car garage.
18:39Yeah, and we got that permit like a month ago or something.
18:46I don't have any questions.
18:53Is there anyone here to speak on board of adjustment case 24067?
19:02We will move to discussion.
19:07I think the fact that it sits at that um common intersection of three streets.
19:15Um definitely helps build a case for alternative park parking and entrance ways.
19:28And that intersection is so close to Peoria.
19:41I mean it seems like a pretty big ask for the right-of-way relief.
19:51And I can understand the street back relief, but I'm a little torn on how much over they are on the right-of-way.
20:20So that relief though, from my understanding, is because it's an aggregate, and there's already the circle driveway there.
20:38And so pretty much any relief.
20:43I mean, any relief is going to need the special exception.
20:47Um your concern is just the you think it could be smaller.
20:52I mean, it is smaller already.
20:54It is smaller already.
20:56Oh, well, I mean, it's an existing drive that they're widening.
21:04But your can your concerns not the widening necessarily as it is just the walk.
21:10The 27 feet to the 52.4 feet in the right-of-way.
21:17But I mean, if you guys aren't concerned with it, then I can get over it.
21:30Could I add one more thing?
21:32Um are you guys okay with that?
21:34Yeah, go ahead and come on up to the microphone.
21:36There's already a driveway there going through to where the new garage is.
21:40It's 12 feet wide, so we're going 18 feet.
21:43So we're asking for six feet additional.
21:46Even though, yeah, I understand the additional over the code minimum or maximum.
21:58It doesn't bother me.
22:07Are you uh never mind?
22:10Because that is not a question.
22:11We're not in question time.
22:15I'm not gonna make a I'm not gonna make a motion for it, but I I would approve it if you did.
22:28Do you feel strongly enough to make a motion, Stumas?
22:37Madam Chair, on BOA case 24067, a move to approve a special exception to increase the maximum allowable driveway width from 30 feet to 37.1 in the street set back and 27 feet to 52.4 feet in the right-of-way in the RS2 district for the conceptual plan shown on 4.12 and 4.13 of the agenda packet.
23:10The board finds that the request of special exception will be in harmony with the spirit intent of the code and will not be injurious to the neighborhood or otherwise detrimental to the public welfare.
23:21Do we have a second?
23:25Audrey just confirming I can second, even though I'm chairing the meeting.
23:30I think that's a practical option for us today.
23:34I will give that a second.
23:36We'll move into voting.
23:41I will also vote yes.
23:46We'll move on to agenda item number five.
23:47Board of adjustment case 24069.
23:51BOA 24069 is located at 8621 South Memorial Drive.
23:59LLC, um represented by Jesse Stringer with a request for a variance to permit a fence within the street right-of-way and a special exception to increase the allowed fence height of four feet in the street zip back.
24:12Hi, good afternoon, Jesse Stringer, 8.1428 South New Haven Avenue.
24:19So I'm representing Regent Preparatory School today.
24:42This was platted in 2014 and then re-platted a few years later as they started growing and expanding.
24:50Even before they purchased this property, though, um the existing campus building that you see on this exhibit in front of you, it's can entire layout already encroached on the existing memorial right-of-way.
25:07Regent Preparatory School bought this property, has been using it as it was intended since the beginning.
25:13So they were not the ones that ever poured this parking lot or anything like that.
25:18Now though, as the campus has grown and the communal spaces for the students, particularly the very young students who are over here in the elementary and middle school area, spend a lot of their lunch time and before school and after school time in and around this parking lot.
25:37That's where they have lunch, that's where they sit and hang out with friends.
25:40The school unfortunately has experienced this past semester some pretty scary situations with folks wandering on to the campus, threatening students and making parents in general feel extremely uncomfortable.
25:56So the general consensus among the board and school staff was we're at that point, we need to go ahead and put up a security fence because how the campus is laid out.
26:07Um it really doesn't uh work for them security-wise to put a fence anywhere other than along that property line, uh, which all works well and everything's fine, and there's no reason for us to be here except for one area which I have bubbled in red in the top left corner.
26:25There's a portion of the fence that has to jog outside of our property line and into the right-of-way in order to just follow the natural layout of the existing site without the school having to come in and completely redo thousands and thousands of dollars worth of uh site layout and campus design.
26:50Um our first question was to ODOT, because this is within the ODOT right-of-way.
26:55We explained to them what was going on.
26:57They had no issue and gave us written consent to move forward as long as it was okay with the city of Tulsa and this board.
27:05Uh so we definitely crossed that hurdle already.
27:09But um to sum this up, the actual hardship case is the unique relationship between this piecemeal campus, the Memorial Drive right-of-way, and the existing security fence in order to have a continuous fence, which if it if we didn't have this portion actually constructed, then the whole point of the security fence is kind of null and void.
27:34So the uh main hardship is to have a continuous security fence and connect these segments together while avoiding having to do any major reconstruction of the entire site while of course staying outside of the existing sidewalk, staying outside of the utility easements and following the natural existing perimeter of the campus.
28:07Can you speak a little bit towards the special exception portion too on the heights?
28:11I think it's pretty straightforward, but yeah, so very similarly.
28:15Um the point of this is to deter trespassers.
28:19We know people with bad intentions are generally going to find a way to get to campus, but uh, this at least a six-foot fence would definitely take quite a bit of effort to climb over versus a four-foot fence and definitely give on-campus security time to handle the situation versus someone just so easily hopping over a four-foot fence.
28:41So the main goal here is to make sure that students feel safe, parents feel safe dropping their kiddos off at school.
28:47And so a six-foot fence is what made everybody who has discussed this with uh school staff feel the most comfortable is that six-foot height to deter any trespassers.
29:02Do you know how much parking um is existing versus how much is required?
29:09Um I do know that they are beyond maxed out on parking.
29:13Uh we actually just had a meeting the other day to add additional parking because we have parents parking in the grass, uh, students having to park alongside the road off into the grass.
29:26Uh so I know right now they're they're barely fitting as it is.
29:32Uh, that was a discussion.
29:34Can we afford to lose parking?
29:35And we're like, we really cannot.
29:37We already don't have enough.
29:39So uh that's something we're also discussing is building an additional parking lot, which might help a little bit for some staff who park on the on campus.
29:55Well, I have more of a question for um staff, uh, but I want to ask while you're still up here.
30:01Are there any additional considerations or special um I don't know, like regulation that we should be aware of since it is uh the state of Oklahoma that manages the street?
30:15Um so I not necessarily for the state of Oklahoma, except that ODOT would need to approve it.
30:21Um a license agreement would be required for structures to be located within the right of way.
30:27And as part of that process, um the city sends that application to all the franchise utilities and other interested um parties like ODOT to get their comments before they could issue that license agreement.
30:38So nothing that we need to be um considering today.
30:44Um no, I don't think so.
30:45It sounds like Jesse's already had those conversations with ODOT.
30:49So I'm not aware of any like special requests or requirements, um, but that that would come up during that license agreement process.
31:00I I would suggest we continue this one.
31:02Um because I don't have an issue with the special exception, but I don't like the variant, so I'm gonna vote no on it if we go forward today.
31:11Um it may be a more favorable board when we have more members.
31:17So it could work out in your benefit if we continue it.
31:21Yeah, I that that sounds fine to us.
31:24Are you guys okay with that?
31:28So a motion to continue.
31:32Madam Chair and Board of Adjustment 24069.
31:36I move to continue to the agenda on what would that agenda be?
31:46Um move to continue to the board meeting of July 21st.
31:52Do we have a second?
31:54Okay, so voting to continue, Mr.
31:59I will also vote yes.
32:01So this case is continued to the July 21st board meeting.
32:09Um, on to item agenda item number six, board of adjustment case 24070.
32:18BOA 24070 is located at 16416 East Admiral Place South.
32:24Our applicant is JLTH development group, LLC care of Michael Scarborough with a request for a special exception to allow commercial vehicle repair and maintenance use in the CS district.
32:39Is the applicant here?
32:42Name, address, and a little about your case.
32:46Um Mike Scarborough with LTH Development Group, uh 110 West Camelback Road in Phoenix, Arizona.
32:53Uh the special exception that we're requesting today is for a fleet fueling facility uh to be located within the CS zoning district.
33:03Uh the property currently is vacant.
33:06Uh uses along Admiral Way tend to be auto-centric today.
33:12Um access would be taken off of both Admiral Place and 165th.
33:18Um from my perspective, it seems to be a fairly straightforward request.
33:24We're not looking for any uh variances or or uh deviations from code.
33:29We will design it to meet code uh requirements.
33:35Uh we did reach out to the neighbors.
33:37Uh we were given the mailing list from our planner Austin and sent out our own letter to the neighbors requesting for them to reach out to us if they had any questions or concerns.
33:47Um we did get one uh phone call uh from the property owner to the west, the semi-truck uh semi-crazy, I think maybe be the name of the business, but it's a semi-truck business to the west.
34:00Uh was a very good conversation.
34:02His biggest concern is when you look at our site plan, it kind of would appear as though we are going to curb off uh what is a platted access easement uh from his property to prevent him from having access, and as I explained to him, that's not the intent.
34:17It's just graphically trying to show the area we would be improving for access.
34:22Um he seemed to be comfortable with that uh conversation and comfortable with the requested use outside of that.
34:29I actually stopped in my office yesterday before I flew out last night just to make sure I didn't have any return mail in uh addresses or anything like that, and just nothing came back in, and that's the only communication we've had to date.
34:42Um and I think I put in my narrative or or my uh paragraph describing the use that we'd be happy to do some additional plantings or something along the southern property line just to help do a little bit of buffering for the residences to the south.
35:00Can you can you point out where the neighbor was concerned?
35:01The the curb cut that they were concerned about.
35:04It's the one along Admiral Place, the dark, the kind of swoop that comes in, the neighbors just to the west of that.
35:10There's a platted access easement there that he has access to as well.
35:14And so graphically it just looked like we were curbing them off, and I tried to exp I tried to help explain to him that that's not the intent, just trying to show the area of improvement.
35:23Yeah, I mean you wouldn't be allowed to do that anyway.
35:27I can understand his concern.
35:31Any other questions?
35:33Um I just want to confirm there are currently not underground tanks there, and part of uh the application for this use is to be able to dig and add the underground tanks for fuel, yes.
35:48There are not underground storage tanks today, so that that would be part of the proposal going forward would be to have the underground storage tanks.
35:55In addition, I don't believe I mentioned, but in addition, we're also gonna add a couple EV chargers on the property as well.
36:01And what type of fleet uh will this be a facility for?
36:05It's it's uh set up, it's a quarrels is the is the name brand.
36:09Um the client that I represents GPM investments, and they own a bunch of convenience store fuel related operations.
36:16Um, and so it'd be whoever I'm not sure exactly what businesses they'll they'll be targeting, but it will also have the ability to serve um non-fleet customers as well.
36:26They will take credit cards, but primarily they don't do gas advertising for pricing.
36:31So primarily it'll be for mostly few fleet customers.
36:41I think I also want to ask this while you're up here.
36:44Um, and so are there additional requirements um or permits need it when adding underground tanks for fuel?
36:56Or is this pretty much it you may be more familiar with those requirements?
37:01The the zoning code doesn't outline any special additional requirements aside from the special exception.
37:07Yeah, um typically in most jurisdictions we have to go through a permitting process with the EQ and have them review and uh permit the tanks as a secondary process uh outside of the city process.
37:24Any other questions?
37:28Um might also offer that a continuance could be helpful in this case as well.
37:37Um, but I don't have any other questions.
37:40Okay, we can see if there's anyone here first.
37:44Um is anyone here to speak on board of adjustment case 24070.
37:54Andrew Heitzman, H I T S M A N 16136, East Admiral Place.
38:01We own the truck wash next door to it.
38:05We don't have a problem with it.
38:07I mean it's great, but my only question was um why is it special exception to do the um repair and maintenance?
38:20That was our only concern.
38:24So that would be the um the use classification that the zoning out code outlines.
38:29Yeah, so um the like a fueling station would fall under that like that use, yes.
38:36Um so that's that's just the name of the use, but um but yeah, his his use like falls under that category.
38:43Um and so that's I I think um if the board were to take action on it, they could maybe limit it to the fueling station if or something like that.
38:52Um but but yes, that's what that means essentially.
38:57Yeah, we don't we don't have any problem with it.
38:59I mean it's a good idea.
39:01I mean, it's just offers more fuel for people, and it's supposed to be gas and diesel, so I mean we don't see we don't really see a problem with it.
39:10I mean it seems pretty in line with with all the services over there, right?
39:15There's part there are semi-park stores or repair places, so yeah, um fleet pride's next door to us.
39:23Yeah, um yeah, and then you know they got the other truck wash across the street from us.
39:28So there's trucks all the time.
39:30I mean it's yeah, yeah.
39:33So yeah, um, we don't have a problem with it.
39:35Okay, thank you for being here today.
39:37If the applicant would like to come back up.
39:45I just wanted to also mention that uh Austin and I had a fairly lengthy back and forth on why we needed to go through the special exception process as well, because a convenience store with fuel isn't allowed use by right in CS.
40:00You don't need a special exception, but because we are not traditional, we're a fleet, more geared towards the fleet is why we are being driven down that path.
40:11So if I were here proposing a QT, we wouldn't we wouldn't be here if it was a QT type use.
40:18So just thought I'd share that as well.
40:22Thank you for clarifying.
40:23That is because the the definition for commercial vehicle repair and maintenance specifically includes truck stops and fleet vehicle fueling facilities.
40:37Well, thank you for that.
40:38Is there anyone else here to speak on board of adjustment case 24070?
40:44We'll move into discussion then.
40:48Stuomas, do you have concerns?
40:51Well, there are um aligned uses um along the corridor.
40:56Um to me that's not um compelling enough to add more underground tanks and for fuel.
41:03So that's just uh um you know an environmental reason, and so that's where I'm offering that it could be um helpful to continue this application.
41:22So if I put forward a motion, you're gonna vote no on it.
41:26If you put forward a motion for to approve it.
41:30Um very likely issues with the yeah.
41:38Do you have any issues continuing this case to the next meeting, which is July 21st?
41:45Okay, it's unfortunate for him, but come back into town.
41:58Uh Madam Chair, and BOA case 24070.
42:03Uh move to continue this application until the next uh hearing on July 21st, 2026.
42:13We have a motion to wave a second.
42:16Motion can to continue.
42:23The case is continued to the July 21st meeting.
42:26And moving to our last agenda item number seven, Board of Adjustment Case 24071.
42:38BOA 24071 is located at 7713 South 26th West Avenue.
42:43Our applicant is Zed Hawa with a request for a special exception to permit an accessory dwelling unit in the AGR district.
42:54Don Conwell representing Dr.
42:57Um, 10628 South Quebec Avenue.
43:01So uh this was a temporary exception granted in 2022 with an expiration date of 2024.
43:10He uh was building his primary home, had this accessory dwelling unit constructed.
43:15Um granted a temporary, he received his certificate occupancy last year, and when he we were attempting to refinance his properties construction loan, we found out he that temporary exemption had never been addressed.
43:31So we applied for a permanent um variance to that or exception to that.
43:36So the display there shows the property.
43:42Um the um concerns originally with the um project, I think have been alleviated, or the use of that property has not created any disruption to the neighborhood.
43:55Um the uh the biggest questions we've had is can the neighbors see the finished house.
44:03So that's basically it.
44:05Um but yes, it basically as you can see the unit as is.
44:09I believe the original intent or when they requested it and I was not involved was hey, we'll probably convert this to a four-car garage afterwards.
44:20Um we're not request we're asking that that not be a a requirement of this permanent exemption.
44:26So you addressed speaking with the neighbors.
44:38Any questions so you you weren't around on the original no, I would no, I was not around on the original one.
44:54Um I think we're just kind of curious reading through the meeting minutes why they put the limitation on it.
45:01Um because it seemed very specific that they wanted the limitation for some reason.
45:07Um but it to me the way it reads is and this is not really a question, but just kind of working through it in a head.
45:15Um the meeting minutes read to me that they put the limitation on it because they essentially built the ADU prior to the primary residence, which isn't allowed.
45:25So I mean that's and I think there were concerns, some ancillary concerns from the neighbors regarding drainage.
45:32I mean, they were all there were there were more vocal neighboring concerns.
45:36Which could have yielded to a more temporary status of that property.
45:41Are they they don't use this for short-term rental?
45:43They don't use it for no, no, I did not request that that limitation be put in there just for future view of the property right and marketability of the property in the unforeseen future.
45:55I thought it was unnecessary since we've l this property has been in use that way for you know two years now.
46:03So any other questions.
46:16Uh I'll ask is anyone here to speak on board adjustment case 24071.
46:22Seeing there is no seeing there is no one left.
46:25We will move on to discussion.
46:27Did so reading through the meeting minutes from the previous one.
46:31I mean, is that the same impression you're getting?
46:33It was really more a matter of it being the ADU being built prior to the primary residence.
46:39That's why this stipulation was put on it.
46:41I can't really def determine too much, but I'm kind of confused as to why it was yeah, that's my understanding.
46:49Um I think like you said, the um it was maybe presented as a temporary solution while they constructed the larger house and then they had plans to convert it into a garage later on, is the way that I read it.
47:01Um I was not here for that case, but that seems about right.
47:08And that was in 20, so that was four years ago.
47:11ADU requirements have changed, some right?
47:16Some have changed, yes, but the basic requirement that um a special exception is required in the EGR district has not changed.
47:23That would have been the same then.
47:26So then I guess the only thing to verify on my end, um does it meet the size requirements of today's ADU requirements for they gave the square footage of the house, which is like 9,000 or something.
47:40Um yeah, if it's um so yes, the AGR district does not have the same accessory um building limitations that like a our an R district would have.
47:54Um so yes, it's not it's not restricted in that way.
47:57So AGR doesn't have any size restrictions on ADU.
48:04Um all that to be said, I don't know.
48:07That's why I asked my questions.
48:09Um I don't have any issues with this it it seems like it was just a matter of timing, really, at the from what I can tell.
48:16Yeah, and yes, that that is correct.
48:20The maximum um floor area of accessory buildings is regulated only in residential districts, not AGR districts.
48:33Okay, no no further concerns.
48:36So do we have a motion?
48:38I will do it, madam chair, and board of adjustment case 24071.
48:42I move to approve a special exception to a special exception.
48:52I think that's two special exceptions.
48:57Well, and then is that written right?
48:59Because are we are we doing a whole new special exception or are we removing the limitations of the previous one?
49:05So the previous one came with I believe a two-year time limit.
49:12Um so since that has passed, it is just a new one.
49:14So a whole new one, yes.
49:16All right, let me start over.
49:17Madam Chair and Board of Adjustment Case 24071.
49:20I move to approve a special exception to permit an accessory dwelling unit in the AGR district for the conceptual plan shown on pages 7.20 through 7.25 of the agenda packet.
49:33The board finds that the requested special exception will be in harmony with the spirit and intent of the code and will not be injurious to the neighborhood or otherwise detrimental to the public welfare.
49:43We have a motion, do we have a second?
49:46Okay, moving to a vote.
49:50I will also vote yes.
49:54Um we have moved to the end of our agenda.
49:58Do we have any comments today?
50:03I will comment that we didn't have any.
50:05Did we have any variances?
50:08But it got continued.
50:10So we didn't even have to hear the reason.
50:12And everyone had spoken with the neighbors.
50:18With that, our meeting is adjourned at 1 56 p.m.