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Finance Committee Meeting Summary - August 12, 2025

City Council MeetingsTuesday, August 12, 2025
BodyTuscaloosa, Alabama
SessionCity Council Meetings
DateTuesday, August 12, 2025
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0:00

A motion to approve.

0:04

Motion and a second any discussion.

0:06

All in favor say aye.

0:07

Aye.

0:08

Minutes are approved.

0:11

Item number one is approval of a professional services agreement with Duncan Coker Associates for Engineering Services on the Veterans Memorial Parkway Bridge project.

0:21

The total is 216,438 dollars.

0:24

Zach, welcome.

0:25

Good afternoon, Council.

0:26

Good afternoon.

0:27

We're actually going to ask to withdraw this one today.

0:30

Okay.

0:31

So we are withdrawing this.

0:33

Do we want to talk about it?

0:34

Yeah, please say why.

0:35

So we don't have an uproar.

0:38

Because I'm sure the phone, let me see.

0:39

I've got text now.

0:40

So we're gonna have a small scope change to add fiber conduit across the bridge.

0:45

But that doesn't change anything else we've talked about.

0:47

No.

0:48

Okay.

0:48

Questions?

0:50

Motion.

0:50

Motion and second.

0:51

All in favor say aye.

0:53

Aye.

0:53

Item number one is withdrawn.

0:57

Item number two.

0:58

Approval of a balancing change order to the emergency non-bid public works contract with price civil services for the Cypress Creek Avenue storm drainage repair.

1:08

It's a deductive total of 78,518 dollars eighty-three cents.

1:12

Zach.

1:13

Yes, sir.

1:14

So this is a deductive change order for the uh emergency project that we had on Cypress Creek Avenue with Price Civil.

1:21

So I have some pictures up here.

1:23

This is the before and after.

1:24

So this is the storm drain that fell on top of the sanitary sewer line that triggered us to have an emergency contract to repair it.

1:32

So Mr.

1:33

Lanier, that looks pretty good, doesn't it?

1:38

Wow.

1:40

It's good.

1:41

Questions?

1:41

Motion.

1:43

Motion and a second.

1:44

All in favor say aye.

1:45

Aye.

1:46

Carly.

1:48

That seventy-eight thousand dollars will just go into the neighborhood drain, which would change that number we looked at last last week, right?

1:54

Yes, so all that is conglomerated into one bucket.

1:58

I think I hear another project getting done.

1:59

Did you get that, Brian?

2:01

Okay.

2:02

All right.

2:02

That's approved.

2:04

Item number three.

2:06

You don't want to give it to Brian.

2:08

Well, that's okay.

2:10

That was more the what was uh he was just looking at me and it's smiling.

2:15

I just that's why she thinks that's his money.

2:20

It is his money until somebody puts their hands on it.

2:22

Really, I guess it's nobody's right.

2:24

All right, I'm losing the meeting.

2:26

Okay, approval of change order number one to citywide resurfacing 2025 contract with ST Bund construction to extend project time by 30 calendar days.

2:36

Zach?

2:36

Yeah, so this is just to extend their contract for 30 days.

2:39

If you'll remember a few weeks ago, we had to come for the green grove subdivision, waiting for that dryer condition, and now it's being evaluated by TTL.

2:46

So this is just giving time for us to go make those necessary repairs.

2:50

They went they went out there.

2:52

Yes, they've done their field work and then when they left, I guess I started getting all the calls again.

2:56

Yes, sir.

2:56

Okay, how come they didn't get that up and didn't do so?

3:00

What is the latest as far as in there?

3:03

So we're expected to get that report back and stuff out here by yeah, there they were expected to get the report back from TTO this week.

3:11

Um, so once we have that, we can get with T get with ST Bunn and coordinate when they're gonna go out.

3:17

We also have a couple other locations that we have to finish up to that we're kind of waiting for that dryer area because they they showed signs that they could potentially do what Green Grove did, so we're letting them dry out.

3:28

So a few so we have I think four locations left to do and all.

3:31

Well, that include the alley at Beverly Guy.

3:34

Yes, sir.

3:34

Thank you.

3:36

It's good, isn't it?

3:37

Good news.

3:37

Yes, good dude.

3:38

Any other questions?

3:39

Entertain a motion approved.

3:40

So moved, moved, seconded.

3:42

All in favor say aye.

3:43

Aye.

3:44

Item number three is approved.

3:46

Item number four is approval of change order number one for water line service replacement with John Wayne plumbing and drain.

3:52

The total is four thousand five hundred and forty dollars.

3:55

Well, welcome back, Mr.

3:57

Turney.

3:57

Thank you.

3:58

Um this was originally approved in June.

4:02

It was 14 service lines that we need to replace.

4:06

We've completed 13 of those.

4:09

Um we need to take one out.

4:12

The customer doesn't want us replacing the line right now because there's some complexities with a retaining wall and a um paver driveway we need to work through.

4:21

So we're we're the deduct one and add three more service lines, and so that change will be that 4540 increase.

4:33

Ryan, I was with you up to the deduct one add three.

4:38

So there's we want to we had four to you.

4:41

13 out of 14.

4:42

Yep, the one we held off of because there was some complexities, and we need to add three more.

4:48

Add three more lines, yes, sir.

4:52

We found three more in the meantime that we need to replace.

4:57

That's good news, isn't it?

4:58

Councilman Buddy.

4:59

Uh yes.

5:00

Yes.

5:00

How'd you find it?

5:02

So there was a leak, and we found one.

5:05

And so when we did the inventory to identify these, there we went back through, and the gentleman who did the inventory on those, we redid those and found the other two.

5:16

Does that make sense?

5:17

You with me.

5:18

Well, uh so there's 16 total in doing that.

5:22

That's right.

5:22

We did 13 out of 14.

5:24

One we halted, three more we added.

5:29

And we need to come up with six forty, five hundred.

5:32

How much more?

5:33

4500, which we have in the budget for the motion.

5:39

Motion and second.

5:40

All in favor say aye.

5:41

Aye.

5:42

Item number four is approved.

5:44

Item number five is approval of minor public works contract with Druid glass construction to replace glass and two doors at the river market.

5:51

The total is $1,55.

5:54

Scott, welcome.

5:54

Good afternoon.

5:55

Good afternoon.

5:56

So this will be funded through facility renewal.

5:59

The north and south double doors have the seals on the uh glass is uh leaking, so there's moisture condensation on the inside makes it cloudy and boggy.

6:10

Questions motion second.

6:15

All in favor say aye.

6:16

Aye.

6:17

Item number five is approved.

6:19

Six is approval of change order number one to the minor public works contract with building specialties company for rekey of City Hall Main Building.

6:27

The total is sixteen thousand three hundred and eighty dollars.

6:30

Tim, welcome.

6:30

Thank you.

6:31

Good afternoon.

6:32

Good afternoon.

6:33

This is an amendment to a contract we executed in January.

6:36

Um when we conducted the initial review of doors that are existing in the original uh building.

6:43

Uh we took measurements and disassembled hardware on every door type we thought we had.

6:49

Uh we discovered once we started doing install that some doors that appear to be the same were different.

6:56

The building is over a hundred years old, and so there's a wider variety of doors than we initially anticipated.

7:03

This additional sixteen thousand will cover additional hardware that is necessary to retrofit the the final amount of keys.

7:11

Everything we originally purchased is going to be utilized.

7:14

There's just additional hardware needs.

7:24

Yes, sir.

7:26

But it but I've asked jovially, and I I asked because I'm not in the executive body, I can't tell.

7:32

Y'all please take a look at us getting drenched when we come in this underground parking.

7:37

I mean, I think I I you put on good clothes, roll your window down the second in your foot.

7:44

All right.

7:45

I actually thought we had a solution.

7:49

We have a solution for you, and we're waiting on one last piece to come in, and then I will I we will have that solved.

7:57

Second.

8:01

I got a motion and a second.

8:03

All in favor say aye.

8:06

Item number six is approved.

8:08

I don't I don't know if we approve getting cover from the rain yet.

8:11

That's good.

8:13

Item number seven is approval of a minor public works contract with building specialties to re-key city hall annex three building.

8:21

The total is twelve thousand five twenty-four fifty.

8:23

Tim.

8:24

So continuing with the security enhancements budget.

8:26

This is to reque the entire annex three building.

8:30

Um this will be every key in the building, every lock.

8:35

Question second.

8:37

Motion second.

8:38

All in favor say aye.

8:39

Aye.

8:40

Item number seven is approved.

8:41

Item number eight is approval of a minor public works contract with Browning Masonry for CMU block repair and patching at the Powell Gym.

8:49

The total is three thousand dollars.

8:50

Tim.

8:51

Uh, this is funded by the Powell Gym Improvements Account.

8:54

Uh this work as well as the next item is to it has some correlation.

9:00

This is going to repair block work associated with the existing fire extinguisher cabinet locations as well as the fire alarm cabinet location.

9:10

It's going to repair the CMU so that we can what is CMU block?

9:14

A concrete masonry unit, a center block.

9:17

Um so it will repair the block so that we can adjust the extinguisher cabinets and the fire alarm cabinets to the new sizes and appropriate ADA heights.

9:28

Motion.

9:30

Motion second.

9:31

All in favor say aye.

9:32

Aye.

9:35

Item number eight is approved.

9:37

Item number nine is approval of a minor public works contract.

9:40

The PCI technologies for purchase and installation of a fire alarm system at the PAL Gym.

9:45

Total is $12,719.

9:47

Again from the POW uh gym improvements account, and this is to replace that fire alarm system where we're going to repair the CMU around it.

9:55

Motion motion to second.

9:58

All in favor say aye.

9:59

Aye.

10:00

Item is approved.

10:01

Item number 10 is approval of a minor public works contract with Amos and Associates to add a sink at Kentuck at Queen City Park.

10:09

Total is 48,900.

10:12

That's an expensive sink.

10:13

It is.

10:16

It's a reimbursable sink.

10:18

Yes, sir.

10:18

This is this is reimbursable through the funding agreement that was that came through finance two or three weeks ago.

10:23

Do they realize that's a sink for 48,000?

10:27

The full agreement was 55,000 that includes some initial preliminary work on the outside of the building.

10:34

A large reason for this this cost is that we are having to trench from the back of the building to the front of the building, and we are installing a booster pump for that drainage to go from the back.

10:45

And that's it's a three-compartment sink, a hand washing station, as well as a water line to the refrigerator.

10:52

The work involves uh removing and replacing concrete at the back of the building as well.

10:57

A lot of this is the line was questionable.

11:00

Yes, sir.

11:01

We we had a contract a few weeks ago uh not to exceed amount of eighty two hundred dollars to do to attempt to repair the line that was not successful.

11:09

We executed six thousand of that eighty-two hundred dollar agreement.

11:13

So of the original fifty-five thousand, we I think we're coming in at fifty-four thousand nine hundred.

11:22

So did you say that was gonna be reimbursed?

11:25

It is, yes, sir.

11:26

Okay, so we've got a motion second.

11:27

All in favor say aye.

11:30

Item number ten is approved.

11:34

Item number eleven is approval of balancing change order with Brit demolition for the savings center mass demolition construction project.

11:41

It's a deductive total of 70,000.

11:44

Jonathan, welcome.

11:45

Yes, sir.

11:45

Thank you.

11:46

I have a recap of our funding sources and expenses.

11:50

If I can hand that out real quick, that'd be great.

11:52

The overall savings center project.

11:54

You got ESP today.

11:56

Yes, sir.

11:58

I can get that one out of there.

12:00

There you go.

12:08

Sir Mayor.

12:22

We have five items on here today, so we wanted to make sure we had the full detail of where all this funding uh is coming from.

12:30

So this first one is on the Britt demo contract.

12:33

If you remember their contract was for uh $396,000.

12:37

Uh we had some contingency funding in that contract that we did not have to use, and then we also had some earthwork backfill uh that we did not uh have to complete because of the timing of getting stone started on the the building construction.

12:51

We stopped that earth work, got a credit back for that.

12:54

Um, and so we're we're able to reduce the contract amount with Britt by $70,000, and you'll see uh on the on the expense uses we're showing that as $326,000 now instead of the previous $396,000.

13:08

So we're getting $70,000 back to go into the the overall budget for savings center.

13:13

And and Jonathan, when we were still fairly far out, weren't we?

13:18

Weren't we anticipating close to three quarters of a million to the demo?

13:22

Yes, sir.

13:23

At one time we had it budgeted around $800,000 initially for building demolition and came in well under that.

13:30

Okay, so this is a deductive 70 grand.

13:32

Yes, sir.

13:33

Motion motion is second.

13:35

All in favor say aye.

13:36

All right.

13:37

Item number 11 is approved.

13:40

Item number 12 is approval of a professional services contract with Turner and Towns and Heary for the savings center project total not to exceed 50,000.

13:50

Jonathan.

13:51

Yes, sir.

13:52

This one is to continue services with Jenna uh Bueller.

13:56

Um she's been working with us over the last several years on the operations of the of the facility, and as we move forward uh getting ready to open in 2027, uh they're gonna continue to provide services uh to work on the operation side so that when we do open the building, uh all the operations are set up and established the way they need to be uh for successful operation of the saving center.

14:19

Is that mechanically everything?

14:22

I mean, is that kind of any any expense to run that building?

14:26

They're working on that.

14:27

They're they're gonna be working on that operations operation plan, yes, sir.

14:34

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

14:35

So with regard to the the big ticket items coming up.

14:40

Ms.

14:40

Standard, do I detect your fingerprints on this?

14:44

That yes, sir.

14:44

That's the thank you.

14:46

This makes this easy.

14:48

Okay.

14:48

I I can look at it.

14:50

I can know that we're tracking on what we talked about, and it's not a problem.

14:56

So, but while we're talking about this operations piece, you say easy.

15:06

The operations piece is still the lingering piece of uncertainty cloud.

15:13

I mean, again, with big numbers, but it's gonna get built in line with what we talked about.

15:20

This particular item is for the person doing the or the firm, whatever it is doing the operational management advising, correct?

15:31

Correct.

15:31

And consulting.

15:34

The last time I remember asking for and seeing kind of a pro forma of the PL on this thing.

15:44

I can't remember what I have for breakfast, much less what that looked like a couple years ago.

15:50

When are we going to get I'm certainly concerned that there's been a lot changed?

15:58

When are we going to get an update of that PNL pro forma?

16:03

It's in my the budget.

16:05

Okay.

16:05

It's in the budget breach.

16:07

So next next Tuesday.

16:08

You'll see a fiscal 26 piece because of the ramp up period.

16:12

And as part of that would be 27 feet as well.

16:17

How we project it for again.

16:25

Jonathan, I'm here to help you.

16:27

See?

16:27

Thank you, sir.

16:28

That's the last thing I told you.

16:30

Yes, sir.

16:32

See?

16:32

Thank you, Carly.

16:35

All right, what do I got?

16:36

Motion.

16:37

Second.

16:38

All in favor say aye.

16:39

Aye.

16:40

Number 12 is approved.

16:42

Item number 13 is approval of a professional services contract with Duncan Coker for the Saving Center project.

16:48

Total not to exceed 66,186.

16:52

Yes, sir.

16:53

Duncan Coker is our civil engineer on the project.

16:56

Uh work with Davis throughout the design of Saving Center.

16:59

And so this contract is going to allow them to do all the resident observation services during construction of all the uh site work improvements, uh, water, sewer, um, utilities, everything that they design.

17:13

Again, that's a that's a requirement of of the city uh to have them uh provide that service during construction.

17:18

So that's what this 66,000 one eighty-six contract is for is to get them started on that now that uh uh the the project is underway.

17:27

And and is that um articulated in months or years or start to finish?

17:34

That this will be start to finish on that site work, site utility scope of work, yes, sir.

17:39

The site utility scope of site utility as a non-construction guy.

17:47

When does that when does site utilities end?

17:52

They'll be working on that throughout the duration of the project.

17:54

So it'll it'll be start to finish.

17:56

Okay, it'll cover the next next two years of the work.

18:00

Okay, I don't think I have another question.

18:03

Any other questions?

18:04

Entertain a motion.

18:06

So moved.

18:08

Moved second.

18:08

All in favor, say aye.

18:10

Aye.

18:11

Item 13 is approved.

18:13

Item number 14.

18:14

It's approval of professional services contract with 1220 exhibits for the savings center project.

18:20

The total is 19,683,408 dollars.

18:25

Jonathan.

18:26

Yes, sir.

18:27

A big number.

18:28

Yes, sir, it is.

18:29

Let's talk a little bit about it.

18:31

Present this one, if you'll recall, uh, last summer, June of 24, we put an RFQ out for the exhibit uh fabricator and installer.

18:41

Um we went through that RFQ process, selected 1220 out of Nashville, uh, went through uh some negotiations with them uh and ultimately selected them to provide this service for us.

18:52

Uh we began working with them with the uh Cambridge 7 as as the designer of the exhibits and have spent the last year working through that design getting cost feedback estimates throughout that 12-month period uh to uh here in the last two weeks get to this point where we have arrived at a scope of work for the exhibit uh fabrication installation and a final price, and that's what you see reflected here.

19:17

This covers all of the ignite exhibits that are in the project, uh the hot job site uh uh exhibit, uh the exterior exhibits for the building, it covers the saving legacy hall and the um galaxy gallery that's in the uh the the glass cylinder entrance uh on the north face of the building, so it covers all exhibits that are gonna be uh inside and outside at the savings center uh facility.

19:43

How does this reconcile with our original budget?

19:48

Because when you and I were talking about this, this is a lot higher.

19:51

I think I know the reason why it's higher because it has to do with the museum portion or what we're calling that right, but talk a little bit about the budget and a little bit of that process and how we got where we're at with this number while we feel good about that.

20:00

But talk a little bit about the budget and a little bit of that process and how we got where we're at with this number while we feel good about that.

20:05

Okay.

20:06

So when we started uh back in 22, uh we were looking at about uh 15 to 20,000 square feet of exhibit space uh with a with an estimate and budget there of about 10 million dollars uh as we started designing and and looking at uh the the facility and the needs with the architects and exhibit designers uh realized that there was a need for some additional space.

20:27

We've we've added the hot jobs, we've added the outdoor exhibits.

20:30

Uh that got us up to the 12 and a half to 13 million dollar range uh probably in the 2023 time frame.

20:37

Um and obviously since then moving forward into 24, we've added the the saving legacy hall in the lobby area of the lowest level uh that it added additional scope in there, and then also uh with the exhibits in the uh entrance uh glass cylinder there on the north face of the building, added another uh scope there of exhibits as a as a way to welcome visitors to the to the savings center.

21:01

And so we've we've gone from the 13 and a half uh twelve thirty twelve and a half, thirteen million.

21:06

We added the saving legacy hall, we've added the um the galaxy gallery and um it exhibits inside and ignite.

21:14

We increased that a little bit too to make sure we get it right and have everything in there that's gonna that's gonna provide a great experience for the visitors, and so we're at about 14 and a half, 15 million for ignite galleries.

21:27

We're about three million uh roughly for the Save and Legacy Hall, and then another million for the Galaxy Gallery that gets us up to our our 19.

21:34

That's just rough numbers there on what the money's going for uh within the within the facility.

21:39

But you feel good about those numbers.

21:41

Yes, sir.

21:42

We've we've really worked that hard at one time we were higher than where we are now.

21:46

We've cut about three, three and a half million out of that to get back down to where we are now.

21:50

So we we feel really good and have have spent like I said, we've spent 12 months working with 1220 exhibits out of Nashville uh to get to where we are today and feel really good.

22:00

And you know, we have some I think we have some visuals we can show you if you're interested in seeing them uh at what some of these exhibits look like if that were that might help.

22:08

Yeah, good.

22:10

So Audrey, while you're doing that, can I ask a question, Carly?

22:14

Yes, sir.

22:15

When it comes to fundraising here, the capital campaign pledges received prior to the bond because we wouldn't bond for what till we probably bond for this savings.

22:26

We've already done it.

22:27

Well, it did.

22:29

You took a trip to New York.

22:30

Oh god, I'm thinking sorry.

22:31

I was the the question was gonna be the two and a half million dollars that's usually me.

22:36

Well, the two and a half million dollars that we got for uh from the port's career, what happened the other day?

22:42

Where well that money, I was gonna ask that question about that being applied to it.

22:46

That's already worked into it.

22:46

That's that was already working to the bond amount.

22:49

Okay, so Norman, let me ask something that's yeah, yeah, yeah.

22:52

Feathering is in the middle of the city.

22:52

I forget there you go.

22:55

As I look at this, yeah, the city's money in this 120 revenue picture, it's roughly 86 million dollars, right?

23:06

Yeah, yes, sir.

23:07

Uh um, I mean, give or take.

23:09

Because yes, the 25 just between friends 16 million in elevate budget, 38 3.8 million in river district and 66 million five hundred in the bond issue.

23:22

But the the private capital raising, which we know from our briefs in the last month or so is pushing 35 million, it's right.

23:34

We put we've taken six and a half of that, right?

23:38

Yes, so there's another 29 million coming.

23:42

Is that gonna push down our city portion of that funding?

23:48

It's got to.

23:50

It will.

23:50

So we bonded the amount that we have not received yet.

23:54

Because you can't you can't build it if you don't have money.

23:57

Right, correct.

23:57

And so the the bond amount of the 66 and a half is really what will get pushed down once we start receiving those other donation amounts.

24:05

Okay, so uh again, ball part.

24:09

If if what's showing on right here is 120 million, we know there's about 29-ish coming back from private donations.

24:20

That should shove us down to I'm getting you like an exact number.

24:25

High 50s, high 50s, low 60s in there.

24:30

Of city money.

24:32

Um, yeah, 64 251 is what we're really looking at for city money, like direct city.

24:38

Which is what we've been talking about in the in the final approach on this thing is that now that I've had my senior moment.

24:45

Let me go back and ask your question again, though.

24:47

Is that balance of two and a half million coming from Ports Creek?

24:51

Is that in that 29 million that we're expected to receive, or will it?

24:55

So that's that's part of the factory.

25:00

So yeah, okay.

25:02

So when we took out the bond of 66 and a half million, that five million dollars from Ports Creek was already considered in the amount that we were going to receive.

25:10

Right.

25:10

And so that's what that bond amount is set up.

25:13

Okay, okay.

25:13

Plus the 42 million of direct city um debt that we took out.

25:19

Okay, sorry.

25:20

Audrey, well.

25:21

Hi.

25:22

Thank you for being here.

25:23

Thank you for having us.

25:24

I think we're we're loading.

25:26

Attempting to load.

25:28

It's it's a lot of large files, but they're very beautiful images.

25:35

Um I'll be waiting for that to load.

25:38

Um thank you to you and Miss Faye and everybody for the event last Wednesday.

25:43

It's nice to spend.

25:44

Thank you.

25:45

Thank you.

25:46

It was uh long time coming.

25:48

Audrey, these are the people that we work with the whole time.

25:51

And I mean on the exhibits side.

25:53

Oh, yes.

25:54

Yes, yes.

25:56

Um we um, yeah, these these are just some some of the images.

26:01

It doesn't include all of the exhibits by any means, but these are some highlights that we just thought we would show today while we were talking about the contract.

26:09

So while we're waiting to load double Jonathan or Audrey, just 19 million exhibits.

26:20

I'm assuming they're pretty high speed.

26:25

I'm assuming that technology moves pretty fast.

26:28

So what are the plans for keeping it current?

26:34

We have the money-wise plans.

26:37

Well, we so there are multiple factors that we're looking at.

26:41

Um so an exhibit generally can last between five to ten years with with the highly technical ones, it's it's less, of course, um, for that upkeep.

26:52

So we um there are a few things that we have.

26:55

Um, of course, fundraising will happen.

26:58

Um we will continue to do that annually, and then when we have projects that we are specifically targeting, we will um we will work through that.

27:07

Um, and part of Jenna is looking at some of the equipment that we have that we will we know we will have to refresh after so many years, and we've been planning that with uh 15% elevate maintenance.

27:19

So, what's factored into the budget the mayor's gonna show us next week for that keeping current the technology of the exhibit?

27:28

I think we have that.

27:29

Um you want to show that uh well uh so the um it's through so many years.

27:35

So the the total amount that we have for that's going to be set aside for maintenance and upkeep of the exhibits, it's not gonna be factored into 2026 because we have we're not gonna be open yet, but in the future year, so after opening, we will have a certain amount set aside that Jenna from that contract from that $50,000 contract, she has already given us pro formas about reinvestment amounts at certain intervals.

27:56

Well, I do I remember from those pro formas the peaks, yeah, estimated peaks and valleys to match the technology patterns.

28:05

And that is projected on a 10-year basis that we look into with the elevate 15% operations and maintenance set aside in the river district fund, also.

28:13

So those are projected into those 10-year plans.

28:16

We also have we're working on an endowment with the University of Alabama that would also help with some of that.

28:24

Then of course, the state, the the hot jobs exhibits, so that will be a state the the state portion of those exhibits, and so that will also go into that refresh there.

28:34

Um so yeah, we're we know we know we know it's a lift, but we also know that we have to plan for it, and so I think we've done a pretty good job of that.

28:44

Yes, and and every year there is going to be a uh you know capital expenditure set aside, whether or not we use that total amount that year, or if it goes into escrow and then we have a peak year, but the but we are setting aside something every year, and then we do know that we will have certain peaks and valleys within those that 10-year projection.

29:01

And I think that once we have a 10-year project, once we get through the 10-year projection period, we will have a much better idea within our own operating capacity about what we need to have going forward after that.

29:14

Okay, so um, I think we have it up.

29:20

You want to click through it?

29:24

This is just a oh that's fine.

29:26

That's fine.

29:27

So, of course, this is um the north facade of the of the project.

29:31

This is Coca-Cola Plaza as you come in.

29:33

And what Jonathan was mentioning with that first exhibit is that globe.

29:37

So that's an LED globe.

29:38

Um, it's very similar to this the sphere in Las Vegas uh that you've seen.

29:43

And so that actually can change out.

29:45

We can we can do different things with it as you come into the building.

29:49

Um can you change?

29:51

Oh, you click, okay.

29:52

So this is that second floor plan.

29:54

So this is where most of the Ignite um exhibits are located.

30:00

of the of the project this is Coca Cola Plaza as you come in and what Jonathan was mentioning with that first exhibit is that globe so that's an LED globe um it's very similar to this the sphere in Los Vegas uh that you've seen and so that actually can change out we can we can do different things with it as you come into the building um can you change oh you click okay so this is that second floor plan so this is where most of the Ignite um exhibits are located so again Alabama earth and water energy zone intelligent tech revolution top performance anatomy um just see the outdoor exhibits and then make small big which is that zero to six component on this floor uh so these are again we're just gonna show some quick images so this is as you're coming into Alabama Earth and water gallery you see the large dinosaur um this is our aviation uh exhibit where we have our flight simulators we've been working with Sanders Aviation again and national Tuscosa National Airport on this one pretty exciting this is our um our um forms of energy uh we've worked heavily with Alabama power on this uh as the power grid so this is where kids are gonna learn learn how an a city powers its grid um and the different forms of energies that are associated with that uh this is the brain so this is protecting the brain we've been working with the Life Institute so this is located in our sports science and human body um gallery again this is also in that gallery so this is where we would actually raise the dinosaur here or the athlete and then you go and you do the you you hold the simulators to see what does that do to your heart your lungs um and that data is tracked with the kids and they're able to take that to the labs and then um you know down like download that that data and go through it uh and do analysis with their labs so this is our adaptive athletics uh exhibit so um we've been working with the University of Alabama at adaptive athletics uh on this one and Hank 4 so this one we will really highlight um all the different options that uh athletes have and really the engineering behind it the industrial design behind it it even goes into the materials used for those sports for these um components so it's it's it's an insight though this will also tell the stories of specific athletes from Alabama and and their challenges and their successes and how they overcame so it's a pretty cool exhibit um so this is our drone exhibit uh again this will have all types of different drones that that kids will get to interact with uh this is sustainable communities I think you guys have seen this one this is the one we partner with new core on um and so throughout the day kids will make decisions about the community and that decision will have a ripple effect across that landscape and they'll actually see at the end of the day what their choices did to that environment um I'll see so this is also um in our energy exhibit so this is this is more um they will get to see how energy is produced uh in the different ways that energy is produced this is our working forest uh so this is our exhibit that we partnered with Westerveld on so this is where they will learn about the mother tree and sustainability um they will learn about sustainable forestry uh and and what goes into that and really just about our Alabama environment this is science on a sphere so we partnered with Noah on this uh this we will actually have the largest science on a sphere that that anyone has ever had so that that's really exciting this is like a little mini theater um and it's more of a global take on our environment weather all the things um these are some of our outdoor exhibits uh so you can see this is more of like a sensory garden kids will learn about plants um they will again learn about sustainability this is uh an image of our zero to six area so this is that make small big and this has components of all of our other exhibits within this one for the smaller kids and then this is our our video of the of the building if you want to just just to remember it should play doesn't like it y'all seeing it okay and then you can end it.

34:23

So there oh there you go well so the future will belong to those who learn it first um we really believe this uh this this part of the project uh it is a big number um but the exhibits are the heart and soul of this project and we really just have a building if we if we don't um have our exhibits so have any questions questions motion do you have any other questions or comments you want to go to not really I think the biggest thing is just the the flow of how all that works because of me and and being told it's it's within budget then we're we're not surprised by this because I think the main driver of this was the the um the museum piece of the right of being over what we thought correct yes but that kind of changed as far as the same scope what we've been talking about so I don't other questions we didn't make any decisions honestly um on these pro on these exhibits without really digging in with our

35:00

I think the I think the biggest thing is just the flow of how all that works, because I mean and and being told it's it's within budget, then we're we're not surprised by this, because I think the main driver of this is the um the museum piece or the right of being over what we thought, correct?

35:12

Yes, but that kind of changed that's part of the change scope what we've been talking about, which I think is actually a good thing.

35:18

So I don't other questions.

35:22

We didn't make any decisions honestly um on these pro on these exhibits without really digging in with our our researchers, our teachers.

35:32

We wanted to keep the integrity of each of these and make sure that there were learning goals associated from K through 12.

35:38

So we worked really hard to get these here.

35:41

So thank y'all.

35:43

Thank you, Arthur.

35:44

We're trying to give you 19 million.

35:50

All right, did I get a second?

35:51

Yeah, motion second.

35:53

All in favor say aye.

35:54

Aye.

35:55

Item 14 is approved.

35:57

Item 15 is approval of amendment number two for Davis Architects contract for the savings center project.

36:03

The total is 3,189,008.

36:08

Jonathan.

36:09

This will be a um reconciling amendment with Davis based on the actual amount that was awarded to Stone.

36:16

Oh that's 74194 contract amount.

36:20

Um we went back and reconciled based on the state DCM fee schedule with Davis.

36:26

Um their five and a half percent fee on the total amount awarded, and um, and then also included the uh exhibit design fees that that we added with the saving legacy hall, and so that's what totaled up to the three one eighty-nine and eighty cents uh to get the uh the architect and all the engineers reconciled uh with the uh fees associated with with the design and the contract award that we did with Stone back in the summer questions so Jonathan, like we talked about earlier for the architects that's the 8.3 a little part of the way down there, and then this 3.2 completes it.

37:12

Yes, sir.

37:18

We're already contracted check.

37:21

We're under contract.

37:23

This would be an amendment, yes, sir.

37:25

Motion second, all in favor say aye.

37:27

Aye item 15 approved.

37:30

Thank you.

37:31

Thank you.

37:33

Item number sixteen is discussion of projects proposed to be funded by the drainage fund future NOAA's Ark 2.0 program.

37:41

Um I had uh asked Mike to come back to the to the committee to kind of approve what was put before the council and to allow my colleagues any any comments or questions because I think we need to we need to vote on the first pay piece of that, knowing that the neighborhood storm drainage, I guess the the NOAA's Arc 2 would be coming in the near future, but I think we need to get moving on some of the projects that we can move on, and that was kind of the purpose and Mike's probably got some new updates for me, but that was the genesis of of him coming back and after the mayor's presentation on the 29th.

38:23

So Mike, you may have new stuff to add or no sir.

38:27

I don't affirm what I said.

38:29

And you said it you said it's quite well.

38:31

What we want to do is to answer any questions, but basically just a blessing to move forward with the short-term uh drainage project that we presented.

38:44

Uh we're we're under design on several of them and need to be wrapping that up, getting bid documents put together.

38:52

We've got some easements to acquire that we wanted to, you know, begin to reach out to the affected, you know, residents, neighbors uh with that would be affected by the construction activity.

39:03

And and again welcome any questions you have.

39:08

I'll do my very best to answer them.

39:12

Committee members anybody have any questions?

39:14

Yes, I want to put them back up.

39:16

Maybe can you put them back up?

39:18

Uh yeah, please.

39:20

Um and as I flip through to get to the correct pages, what time keep in mind what will what will happen is we'll take these items to bid.

39:33

Say the first item North Hampton will we'll advertise that for bid.

39:38

Um and then we'll be back before projects when we after we've received the bid to get authorization, you know, to enter into the contract with the lowest responsible bidder and move forward with construction.

39:51

Uh but this is this is the list that we presented.

39:55

Um the order doesn't necessarily mean the order that we're gonna bring them back to you in.

40:01

Um as you're already aware at the uh the protective buyout portion, uh y'all uh uh voting on that tonight.

40:10

Voting on that tonight.

40:12

Um, I expect the uh the Northampton and the waterfall ones uh to move rather quickly.

40:19

The the remnant of the Oakdale project, if you remember, there was three phases where we're down to phase three.

40:26

Um if we can successfully get the easements for that one, it'll be another one I think pushes through rather quickly.

40:37

Any questions?

40:43

We just voted this out of committee.

40:45

Yes.

40:46

So I got a motion got a motion.

40:49

You got any questions?

40:51

Well, I've I've forgotten what the total of this we got a motion and a second.

41:00

Any discussion?

41:01

All in favor say aye.

41:02

Aye.

41:05

Thank you.

41:06

The proposed for next week, what time called about whether to put that in just the budget presentation into finance or schedule it in the what kind of time you think.

41:30

Whatever the whatever's most convenient for the council.

41:33

Any any survey amongst the members, the members and non-members of the committee?

41:42

Yes, Ms.

41:44

Standards.

41:44

What what else substance-wise is on the finance committee next week?

41:50

I think that we have one budget revision that I know of, and that's it.

41:55

We'll do it in committee if that works for you.

41:58

We'll go long, we'll just push everything.

42:01

We'll go on.

42:02

We'll deal with it.

42:05

That way, those who normally miss finance committee will get to be here.

42:09

All right.

42:10

Okay.

42:11

Um our next committee meeting will be next Tuesday, August the 19th at 2 30.

42:16

Is there any other business to be brought before this committee?

42:20

Hearing none, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.

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Summary of Proceedings

Finance Committee Meeting Summary - August 12, 2025

The Finance Committee of the City Council met on August 12, 2025, at approximately 2:34 PM CT. The committee considered a series of contract approvals, change orders, and a major discussion regarding the Savings Center project's exhibit fabrication contract. All items were approved by unanimous voice vote, with the exception of one item withdrawn from consideration. The next committee meeting was scheduled for August 19, 2025.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of Minutes: Minutes from the previous meeting were approved.
  • Item 1 – Withdrawn: A professional services agreement with Duncan Coker Associates for engineering services on the Veterans Memorial Parkway Bridge project ($216,438) was withdrawn due to a scope change to add fiber conduit across the bridge. The withdrawal was approved.
  • Item 2 – Change Order, Cypress Creek Avenue Storm Drainage Repair: Deductive change order of $78,518.83 with Price Civil Services for emergency non-bid work. Approved.
  • Item 3 – Change Order, Citywide Resurfacing 2025: 30-day time extension with ST Bund Construction due to dryer conditions in Green Grove subdivision. Approved.
  • Item 4 – Change Order, Water Line Service Replacement: With John Wayne Plumbing and Drain, net increase of $4,540 for three additional service lines. Approved.
  • Item 5 – Minor Public Works, River Market Glass Replacement: Contract with Druid Glass Construction for $1,550 to replace leaking glass seals. Approved.
  • Item 6 – Change Order, Rekey of City Hall Main Building: Additional $16,380 with Building Specialties Company for unexpected hardware variations. Approved.
  • Item 7 – Minor Public Works, Rekey of Annex Three: Contract with Building Specialties for $12,524.50. Approved.
  • Item 8 – Minor Public Works, Powell Gym CMU Block Repair: Contract with Browning Masonry for $3,000 to adjust fire extinguisher cabinets. Approved.
  • Item 9 – Minor Public Works, PAL Gym Fire Alarm System: Contract with PCI Technologies for $12,719. Approved.
  • Item 10 – Minor Public Works, Kentuck at Queen City Park Sink: Contract with Amos and Associates for $48,900, reimbursable through a funding agreement. Approved.
  • Item 11 – Change Order, Savings Center Mass Demolition: Deductive change order of $70,000 with Brit Demolition, bringing total to $326,000. Approved.
  • Item 13 – Professional Services, Savings Center Civil Engineering: Contract with Duncan Coker for $66,186 for resident observation services. Approved.
  • Item 15 – Amendment for Davis Architects, Savings Center: Amendment of $3,189,008 to reconcile fees. Approved.

Discussion Items

  • Item 12 – Professional Services, Savings Center Operations Consulting: Contract with Turner & Towns and Heary (Jenna Bueller) for $50,000 to develop operations plan. Councilmember Carly inquired about a pro forma P&L; the mayor noted it would be provided in the upcoming budget presentation. Approved.
  • Item 14 – Professional Services, Savings Center Exhibit Fabrication and Installation: Contract with 1220 Exhibits for $19,683,408. This was the most thoroughly discussed item. Jonathan (project manager) explained the scope includes all interior and exterior exhibits (Ignite galleries, Saving Legacy Hall, Galaxy Gallery). The original 2022 estimate was ~$10 million for 15-20k sq ft; scope additions (hot jobs, outdoor exhibits, saving legacy hall, galaxy gallery) raised costs, but $3-3.5 million in cuts were made to reach the current amount. Councilmember Carly asked about fundraising and bond impact; the mayor confirmed that $66.5 million in bonds will be reduced by private donations (over $29 million expected). Councilmember Buddy asked about technology refresh; Audrey (exhibit team) cited 5-10 year lifespans, a 15% elevate maintenance set-aside, and plans for an endowment with the University of Alabama. Visuals were shown. Councilmember state expressed confidence the project is within budget. Approved.
  • Item 16 – Discussion of Drainage Fund Projects (NOAA’s Ark 2.0): The committee discussed moving forward with short-term drainage projects as presented earlier. Mike (staff) listed Northampton and waterfall projects as likely to move quickly, with Oakdale phase three pending easements. The committee voted to proceed to bid preparation. Approved.

Key Outcomes

  • All items (1-15) except the withdrawn Item 1 were approved by unanimous voice vote.
  • The committee gave approval to proceed with bid preparation for drainage projects under the NOAA’s Ark 2.0 program.
  • The next Finance Committee meeting is scheduled for August 19, 2025 at 2:30 PM CT, with a budget presentation on the Savings Center.

Meeting Transcript

A motion to approve. Motion and a second any discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. Minutes are approved. Item number one is approval of a professional services agreement with Duncan Coker Associates for Engineering Services on the Veterans Memorial Parkway Bridge project. The total is 216,438 dollars. Zach, welcome. Good afternoon, Council. Good afternoon. We're actually going to ask to withdraw this one today. Okay. So we are withdrawing this. Do we want to talk about it? Yeah, please say why. So we don't have an uproar. Because I'm sure the phone, let me see. I've got text now. So we're gonna have a small scope change to add fiber conduit across the bridge. But that doesn't change anything else we've talked about. No. Okay. Questions? Motion. Motion and second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Item number one is withdrawn. Item number two. Approval of a balancing change order to the emergency non-bid public works contract with price civil services for the Cypress Creek Avenue storm drainage repair. It's a deductive total of 78,518 dollars eighty-three cents. Zach. Yes, sir. So this is a deductive change order for the uh emergency project that we had on Cypress Creek Avenue with Price Civil. So I have some pictures up here. This is the before and after. So this is the storm drain that fell on top of the sanitary sewer line that triggered us to have an emergency contract to repair it. So Mr. Lanier, that looks pretty good, doesn't it? Wow. It's good. Questions? Motion. Motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Carly. That seventy-eight thousand dollars will just go into the neighborhood drain, which would change that number we looked at last last week, right? Yes, so all that is conglomerated into one bucket. I think I hear another project getting done.

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