0:01Hey everybody's preserved.
0:11Good evening and welcome to the March 20 March 16, 2026 meeting of the City of Tuscan Planning and Zoning Commission.
0:19Any written comments sent to staff or forward to the commission directly.
0:24At this time, I'd introduce our staff, Jim Bo Woodson, Deputy City Attorney, Michael Gardner, City Engineer, Zach Pons, Director of Planning, Leota Coin, Principal Planner.
0:37There are nine members of the Planning Commission, all of who are appointed by the mayor for staggered terms, with the exception of the City Council representative who is appointed by the City Council.
0:45I ask the Commission members introduce themselves and state their occupation.
0:52Dina Prince, attorney.
0:54Sorry, Dina Prant's attorney.
0:56Portia Clark, 311 manager.
0:59Raven Howard, Councilwoman District 2.
1:04A bill right business owner.
1:05There were sign-up sheets located outside for public comment.
1:09Four speakers are allowed to speak in favor of petition, and four speakers are allowed to speak in opposition to petition.
1:16All speakers will have a maximum of five minutes unless the commission votes to allow a longer time.
1:22The commission will take up items in the order of our final agenda.
1:26The commission will initially receive a presentation from the staff as to the details of the agenda item.
1:32Additionally, we may hear certain matters involving the same property, such as an annexation and a zoning matter concurrently, although we will take separate votes on each matter involving the same property.
1:43After the presentation, I will call upon the petitioner to present their case.
1:47The petition will have a maximum of 10 minutes unless the commission votes to allow a longer time.
1:52At the conclusion of the petition's remarks, I will then call on any part in order to sign up who desires to support the petition.
1:59Thereafter will call on any part or any party in order to sign up who opposes the petition.
2:07Those who oppose petition when it comes to your turn for comment, please introduce yourself, stating your name and address to the commission, provide your remarks and any written comments again have been included into the record.
2:17After receiving the remarks of those who oppose the petition, the petitioner will have the opportunity to respond to the objections.
2:24Any rebuttal be limited to two minutes unless the commission votes to allow a longer time.
2:29If the petitioner presents any new information in response to the objections, the commission will allow those who oppose the petition the opportunity to respond to the new information only.
2:41Any response will be limited to two minutes unless the commission votes to allow a longer time.
2:47During the course of this presentation, you may be interrupted by any member of the commission for clarification or additional information.
2:54Again, such and interruptions will not reduce your time.
2:58Once the commission members have are satisfied they received all relevant information, I will close further discussion by the public, at which time the commission members will discuss the matter and then vote.
3:09After the vote, you are free to leave.
3:13These proceedings are being recorded and broadcast live.
3:16All in-person public comments should be made at the podium into the microphone.
3:40Three, developments with a special district, and four approval letters for developments within the historic buffer zones.
3:50As to all remaining agenda matters, including annexations, rezonings, planned developments, and street vacations.
4:00This commission serves as a recommending body to the city council.
4:03In that regard, our decisions are in the form of a recommendation to be presented to the city council.
4:09The city council will make the final decision on those matters.
4:13Subdivision approval requires the affirmative vote of six members of the planning commission.
4:18All matters which are recommendations to the city council require majority vote for an affirmative recommendation.
4:25At this time, I would ask to any members of the commission have any conflicts of interest as to any agenda matters before us tonight.
4:31If so, please state for the record.
4:35Having heard none, I would ask the staff to confirm on the record that proper notice has been given to all parties in interest as required by law as to all matters before the commission tonight.
4:48Commissioner is agenda changed.
4:50We have S 1726, the Martin of States is requesting to continue to the next month.
4:56Do I hear a motion and a second on this item on the agenda to case to be continued?
5:03All those members say aye.
5:05Those opposed, ayes have it.
5:09Approval of the minutes.
5:10With that, we will begin with the approval of the minutes.
5:13As the planning and zoning commission has received synopsis of the February 2026 meeting, I move that we dispense with a reading of the minutes of the same unless there are any deletions, additions, or corrections.
5:25All those in favor say aye.
5:27Those opposed, minutes are approved.
5:33Good evening, Commission.
5:35Starting off tonight, we have a few cases requesting to withdraw.
5:39You can see them here.
5:40They were all continued from last month.
5:42Um these are withdrawn prior to notice, so no vote is needed.
5:47We do have a few cases requesting to continue tonight.
5:50First up, we have Z07 26.
5:53Um, a few people did sign up to speak on these.
5:56Um do you have any questions for staff?
6:00Out of respect for those who made the effort to come down tonight on the uh Z06 2026, the uh 18th Street from MR1 to SFR 5.
6:12We had two people that are in oppositions.
6:15Uh I guess first we need to have the petitioner form of the request.
6:22So the petitioner is not here tonight.
6:27We do have a representative for the petitioner.
6:29Please come forward and you want to state your request publicly.
6:35Um I'm here tonight to ask uh for a continuance for beard in 1914 for the submitted proposal for 2842 18th Street.
6:43And your name and address for the record, please.
6:45Uh Luke O'Brien address 1811 Forest Lake Drive.
6:52Uh again, I respect for those who have come out here tonight.
6:55We're gonna at least let them hear to say what they want to say.
6:57It might be a good chance for you also to hear what their concerns are.
7:00We always encourage if you hear those, you can reach out to them, make contact.
7:05It always help your case potentially.
7:09Um, I was just sent to say that uh Mr.
7:11Beardon for the past month has had flu and pneumonia, uh, didn't have time to make changes to the site plan, and he couldn't be here tonight due to a family conflict conflict with his children.
7:22All right, thank you.
7:24Uh again, we had two pillars signed up.
7:30I can't make out the last name, but you can come forward and state your name and address the record, so we'll get it correct.
7:42My name is Herbert Briffer, Captain B R I T F R D Brief.
7:46I live at 2826 18th Street, Tusta Luza, Alabama.
7:51Next to the property that they're trying to be at this duplicate on.
7:55I live next to that property.
7:59And my request is uh there's no on that duple.
8:04That's what they're trying to be of there.
8:07That's our understanding, and yes.
8:11But I live at 2826-18th Street next to this property.
8:16And you're obviously not in favor of this, or you want no.
8:20Okay, I'm not in favor.
8:21Well, hey, so what's gonna happen now is he's asking for continuance.
8:25I'm assuming they'll come back next month.
8:28So if there's anything specific about your being in opposition, because there is no duplex on this street.
8:35Okay, there's no one, no.
8:42Yes, that's now we're on the record.
8:46All right, we have Elena Wilson.
8:57My name is Elena Wilson.
9:00And uh I have some land at 2842nd, 18th street.
9:05Would you state your address for the record, please?
9:07My my address is 5124 Pino Trail in Northport, but this is some land on 18th screen.
9:13And my question is is um, what if it was rezoned?
9:18Would I lose some of my land?
9:21And how would the taxes be allocated when the tax sign?
9:26And what is also why is it wants to be rezoned?
9:29It wasn't never told why did it want to be rezoned?
9:32It's just asking for being rezoned.
9:35Okay, so I want those questions answered.
9:37The rezoning, I can let staff answers as well, but the property is currently zoned for I believe a single family house.
9:46And the and the party would like to build a duplex.
9:50And he cannot do that with the current zoning.
9:52So he's asking to change the zoning to a zoning that does allow a duplex to be built.
10:00It will not impact any property lines or anything.
10:02Coyne, you have a I'll jump in here as well to clarify the existing zonings.
10:09It's mixed residential one, so it does allow for a duplex.
10:13However, you have to meet a certain lot size and lot width, um, 65 feet.
10:17I don't recall the the lot size off the top of my head, but for a duplex and SFR5, which the petitioner is requesting, you only need a 50-foot lot with, um, which is why they're requesting that zoning.
10:31So a duplex would be allowed today if the petitioner's lot was meaning the the size to do so, but it does not.
10:38That's why they're they're asking for this change.
10:43And in the future, would it affect if I want to build on my land, would it affect my building if they build a duplex?
10:50Would it affect if I just wanted to build one you know one level housing?
10:54Would it affect how would it take my building?
11:00You would be able to your property would still be the same size and and the same uh zoning district that it is today.
11:10Is her property currently zoned MR1?
11:14All this area is zoned MR1.
11:18All right, thank you.
11:19Okay, that's last only two that signed up to speak.
11:22Would anyone else care to say have a comment about this petition, which is gonna be asked for a continuance?
11:32Okay, you have any desire to come back up, sir.
11:37All right, commission.
11:38Before us, we have a continuous request for Z0726 due to health reasons, and uh so that being said, all those in favor of granting the continuous request for 0726 say aye.
11:54Those opposed, eyes have it.
11:58All right, commission.
11:59We have one more um case requesting to continue tonight.
12:03Um, the applicant is here to request that continuance.
12:08Is anyone here to speak for or against this our original case 1726?
12:18Is the uh petitioner here to request good evening, Commissioner?
12:28Robert Martin with Duncan Coker Associates 201 Town Center Boulevard.
12:33Um part of the development team had a conflict tonight and couldn't be here.
12:38We would like to postpone to next month so that they can be here to help present their case.
12:46Is anyone here to speak for or against this petition request?
12:51Okay, having heard none.
12:53Commissioner Force, we have a continuous request.
12:58Uh what's the case number here?
13:05All those in favor of granting this continuous request, say aye.
13:08Aye, those opposed, eyes have it.
13:20So we um cannot get in touch with Mr.
13:23Uh we need six in order to hear subdivisions.
13:28A lot of these, a lot of these cases that we have are companion cases.
13:32There's a rezoning and an annexation associated with them.
13:35So we could hear we could hear those cases, and if y'all feel comfortable with recommending that they can then move forward to it wouldn't delay them to go to council with those requests, and then they can come back for the subdivisions next uh month if that's okay.
13:53I mean, that's fine with this body, I would think.
13:56And then hopefully we can get Mr.
13:58As we're doing this, maybe Mr.
13:59Rumsey will end up showing up, but if not, then we'll have to continue the other cases to next month.
14:05So if we do it's a companion cases and we vote on two of the three, or one of the two, then that one would not be on next month's agenda, then correct?
14:22All right, we'll move into our cases to be heard.
14:25Uh we'll start with a companion case that is BH Robinson.
14:29Uh this is Z0426 and S1226, um, looking to rezone approximately 0.5 acres located at 2803 and 2805 Herman Avenue from SFR3 to SFR4, um, and then subdividing to create two lots at this address.
14:48So starting with the rezoning, you can see we're south of Stillman College here, um, near the McDonald Hughes Community Center.
14:57See that lot today is vacant.
15:00You can see that existing zoning is SFR3.
15:04The applicant would like to rezone from SFR3 to 4.
15:08They state there were two houses formerly on this property.
15:11They'd like to rebuild two new homes in the previous locations.
15:15Here's a photo of that lot today.
15:17You can see it's vacant.
15:18And here's just a grab from Google.
15:21I mean, you can see in 2019 there were two homes at this location.
15:25Here's that site plan.
15:26They're proposing those two lots and two homes at that site.
15:30And here's a sample of what those homes may look like.
15:34In framework that's identified as traditional neighborhood core.
15:38This request and use does conform to framework.
15:42You can see that identified here.
15:54Just to clarify that that companion case.
15:56So you see those two lots here with contours without no variance requests.
16:03Really, that that zoning changed to meet the minimum lot size here.
16:07Do you have any questions for staff?
16:15While the petitioner's coming up, can we go back to the uh rendering of what the finished product would look like?
16:30Chairman, members commission, Chris Centel, Centel Engineering 639 Black Bears Way, Tuscaloosa.
16:38She explained it very well.
16:39There were two there's already existing two addresses now.
16:42There were two previous homes that were torn down for lack of maintenance.
16:47So uh the developer wants to put two new homes back in this same spot.
16:52So and we need the SFR4 for width.
16:57Any questions for petitioner?
16:59You want me to say a dissertation or something, slow it down?
17:03No, keep going there.
17:09Uh no one has signed up for or against this petition request.
17:12Is anyone here to speak for or against this petition?
17:15Again, we're only going to be voting on the okay I think Alan King only.
17:22I live in that thing.
17:24And I did understand water mass company.
17:28Ma'am, come get this on the record so we know what again.
17:33Give us your name and address for the record, please.
17:36My name is Gloria Robinson.
17:38I actually live at 52 Bellevue Drive, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, 35405.
17:44Uh, the home that I'm currently, it's my mother's house, and it's currently in my name.
17:51And I was just really trying to find out what it was about.
17:54Ollie's SR43s, I did not understand.
17:58But this picture up here does enlighten more about what I'm looking for, if that's being replaced with two different with two houses.
18:06So I'm okay with it, but I wasn't okay at first.
18:09Understand completely.
18:12Anyone else here to speak for or against this petition request?
18:19Having heard none, I think I think this is a positive for this area.
18:24Uh I hope the builder builds these houses.
18:29There will be an improvement to the area.
18:30Hold them to that, right?
18:32Yeah, yeah, let's hold them today.
18:34All right, again, so folks again.
18:36We can only vote on one of these cases, and this is the Z0426.
18:42Um, but this S1226 will be on next month's agenda.
18:47So commission before us, we have Z0426.
18:51The beautiful homes petitions to rezone from SFR3 to SFR4.
18:57Do you have a motion and a second?
19:06And before we move on to the next case, just to clarify, um, if the petitioner could come up and request a continuance.
19:14And then y'all vote on that requested continuance.
19:18And again, I apologize for the not having the corner.
19:21I need to apologize for me.
19:22Oh, I would like to request a continuance to next month.
19:27All right, Commission Forest, we have a continuous request for S1226 to B.H.
19:31Robinson two lot subdivision.
19:34All those in favor say aye.
19:37Those opposed, eyes have it.
19:45All right, Commission.
19:46Next up we have another companion case.
19:48This is STNL, Harkey Lane, three parts.
20:00Um, annexing 0.4 acres south of 4730 Harky Lane, uh, rezoning that 0.4 acres from SFR1 to GC General Commercial, and lastly, consolidating 1.37 acres at this address.
20:09So you can see we are on Old Colony Road, um, just right before the rice mine uh road intersection.
20:16You can see that piece to be annexed today.
20:20Um, they'd like to bring that in to city limits for ultimate uh ultimately to consolidate the lots surrounding it and to build a vet clinic at this site.
20:32Um petition um kind of covers it.
20:36They want to annex it, uh replat it, and then develop a vet hospital here.
20:41Um, this piece is in our primary expansion area.
20:45Here are department comments on the annexation.
20:49Moving into the rezoning.
20:51So once annexed uh the piece of property would be SFR1, they'd like to rezone to GC general commercial.
20:58So we're looking at that same piece again.
21:01Uh it's surrounded by general commercial today.
21:04Um here's just a uh photo looking towards old colony road of the site today.
21:10Um they like to rezone it to be compatible with their surrounding property um for that vet clinic.
21:16Um again, consolidating the lot and building a vet clinic here.
21:21Um, in framework, this property is identified as corridor commercial.
21:26This request and use does conform to framework.
21:29You can see that identification here.
21:32Here are permitted uses in GC.
21:36Clicking through those.
21:38Um, and then lastly, um consolidating four lots into one.
21:43You can see that with contours, without.
21:47Um, I know engineering does have some comments on the street cross section, it might roll into next month.
21:53Um, but other than that, no variance requests.
21:55Do you have any questions for staff?
22:03It is the petitioner here.
22:06I know the petitioner, they were flying down from Ohio, and sounds like we all got some crazy storms last night, so I'm not sure if they were able to make it.
22:14Um, but staff can try to answer any questions y'all have.
22:17All right, is there any questions from staff?
22:19I think this is a bar improvement what we saw once before on this property.
22:23So uh anyone in this audience care to speak for or against this petition request.
22:30Okay, all right, Mr.
22:33Woodson, are we good to take a vote on these two items?
22:37Okay, Commissioner Force, we got two that we could vote on.
22:40First would be in the annexation.
22:42We've got an annexation request 0426 annexing the point four acres located at 4730 Harkey Lane.
22:49All those in favor of the annexation say aye.
22:53Those opposed, ayes have it.
22:55Now we will take the vote on the rezoning of the newly annexed parcel.
23:00That would be Z0526, the point four acres uh SFR1 to G C have a motion and a second.
23:11Motion second is Howard.
23:13Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, motion approved.
23:18Uh will the staff be re uh representing the petitioner on the subdivision.
23:23So without the petitioner present, y'all do have to vote on this petition.
23:28So we can answer any questions that you might have so we can on the subdivision.
23:34Uh are there any questions of the staff for this petition request?
23:38Yes, we should okay.
23:43Oh, we'll have a third of okay.
23:48Michael I don't think it's a problem to continue it.
23:54Commission since staff is requesting a continuance for S1326.
23:59Uh all those in favor of continuing, please say aye.
24:03Those opposed, ayes have it.
24:13All right, so now we're on the preliminary plat, so of course we need six for these um to have a quorum.
24:20So we'll just have to have the petitioners come up and request that continuance.
24:25The the representative for S1526, please come forward.
24:33Chairman, members of order, Michael McGuire.
24:35So I guess we'll s continue it.
24:39No one no one has signed up for 1526.
24:42Is anyone here to on case 1526?
24:46All right, commission.
24:47We have a continuous request for S1526.
24:50All the paper say aye.
24:52Well, I didn't see you back this day.
24:57Name and address the record, please.
24:59My name is Kathy Hammonds.
25:00I live at 3203 Arbor Lane in Tuscaloosa.
25:04Okay, I own the lot in five and six next to this old farmhouse.
25:08Can we get the map up on that, please?
25:12So I don't understand exactly why you would want to resurvey the lot since there's my house is sitting on two lots on that road.
25:21There's also another lot nine and ten has a house sitting on two lots.
25:25So why are we resurveying it for one house?
25:32Okay, we'll let the is it a business?
25:34Well, we'll let the petitioner address that.
25:36Yeah, raise your concerns that he can get he can answer them for you.
25:40That's basically I want to know because it's it when I signed when I bought it that this was all a wooded area.
25:46So it was supposed to be residential, uh, with the possibility of what I have to possibly be a wedding venue if I choose to do so.
25:56Okay, so this what you're seeing outlined there is that is the property they're trying to consolidate to one lot.
26:03You see, there it's got a property line through the middle of it.
26:05Yes, but my house is sitting in the middle of two lots too.
26:08So in their lot nine and ten has a house sitting on is your house sitting around the property line?
26:13Is your house sitting around the property line?
26:15It cuts right down the center of the house.
26:17That'd be a problem.
26:18That'd be a problem one day.
26:20I bought it that way.
26:21Why would there be a problem?
26:22Well, because if you tried to sell one of the lots and now you've got but you wouldn't.
26:26I know you wouldn't.
26:27I mean, if you had if you were gonna build something that large, you wouldn't need to.
26:30He's got they've got a reason for Moulton to make it one lot, so why don't we let them explain what he's trying to do?
26:39The uh the current owner plans to be his house is gonna he's building a new house, and of course, removing the lot line so it won't technically violate any setbacks or anything like that.
26:49So that's that's all he's doing.
26:55I hope that answers the question.
26:57There, they're gonna build one house, and when you have a house on a piece of property, there are there are setbacks, front, back, sides.
27:05This way he's got a wide enough lot, deep enough lot he can build a house pretty much on the entire property without having any setback once he tears it down.
27:14He cannot build across that line.
27:16Right, it'd be the same case for ma'am who for you.
27:18If you've ever tore your house, I'm gonna rebuild or if it was too much.
27:21You couldn't rebuild it back, or if it was destroyed, you couldn't build it back there because of the the property lines so that yeah, but it's still saying it's still saying staying, it's not in the city limits, which is well the funding part of lot nine and ten.
27:39The house is sitting on two lots, and uh he actually the person bought lot nine and ended up having to buy lot ten because they built it too far over, but they still have recently built with a lot that will the same thing, they removed the lot interior line okay.
27:58Anyone else have any questions or comments about this request?
28:02Again, this is going from two lots to one lot.
28:05All right, commission that has a continuance request on S 1526.
28:10All the first say aye.
28:12Those opposed, ayes have it.
28:14That will see you next month.
28:19Who's the petitioner?
28:20Commissioner, I will jump in.
28:22We did receive one public comment in opposition to this request.
28:26We'll let oh yeah, we'll let those folks come up as well, Mr.
28:32Members of the commission, Marty Montgomery, McGomber Tinkle Land Surveying 203, Hargrove Road East.
28:37Representing uh Karen and Dwayne Linder in this project.
28:42We'd like to request a continuance until next month.
28:46And again, we do have two that have signed up.
28:49We'll let them at least have a chance to come up here and say their their piece.
28:54So uh is there Dwayne?
29:01You don't need to say anything at this point.
29:02I mean, uh, I've got a Karen.
29:09So though those are in favor, so we can hold your comments till next month.
29:13Anyone here to speak for or against this petition request?
29:17Okay, having heard no commissioner for us.
29:20We have continuous requests for S 1626.
29:23All those in favor say aye.
29:26Those opposed, ayes have it.
29:28Uh case 1726, Martin Estates.
29:33That's the one we continued on.
29:35So we have 1826, the Skelton Corner.
29:40Uh, who's the representative for that?
29:55Steve McPherson 4121 Vassy Drive.
30:00Uh here on behalf of Joe Fred Skelton and Mrs.
30:05And they are basically just he's getting a little more of her property.
30:12And I think that is a financial thing that she was needing some money for something, and that's all I know about it.
30:19But you're asking for a continuance request.
30:22You need to ask for a continuance because it's got to come back next month.
30:26Have to ask for a 10 continuance.
30:30If they were to vote on it, there's only five here, and it would not be approved, and you have to wait six months to come back.
30:38We don't have a quorum for subdivisions tonight.
30:42We have a quorum, but we don't have enough to approve it.
30:44It takes six votes and there's not six here.
30:46So it'll be denied by vote.
30:49So we're requesting that you ask for a continuous.
30:52We just have to continue.
30:54We'll ask for a continuance till next next month.
30:58Anyone here to speak for or against this petition request?
31:06Come on up here and let's ask your question.
31:08But uh he has the answer.
31:11Well, come get then give your name and address for the record, and we'll get you an answer, I'm sure.
31:16Uh my name is Karen Harris, and um I live at 17728 Old Fayette Road in Northport, but I own the property that is adjacent to this um easement that they're gonna build a driveway on the paperwork that was put on your website, and it shows my property.
31:38It says Steve Harris.
31:39I'm not sure which page it is, about six or seven, I think.
31:43It looks like it's going through my backyard.
31:46So that's my question.
31:47It's like it says I'm adjacent, but the picture looks like it's going through my backyard.
31:54That page right there.
31:55Can you answer the page right there?
31:57I'm not sure where her property is.
32:00Okay, see it says Steve Harris in the in the on the left side.
32:06Oh, yeah, there okay.
32:07Okay, and you can see the um where the house is, and it looks like that.
32:13That looks like that driveway's going through my backyard.
32:15See how close it looks to the driveway?
32:17See how close my see this is the concrete driveway?
32:21It looks like it's like right through the backyard, like right to the driveway.
32:26Now I don't know what the scale is of that, so that was my question.
32:30Skelton, but I see Mr.
32:34Staff can what you call I'm I'm confused.
32:38You worry about that line right there that line exists today.
32:42If I'm correct me if I'm wrong.
32:48Our property line, I thought apparently I'm not very clear on where our property line is.
32:53You're talking about the 40-foot strip up at the top, where the purple line is the purple line is, yeah.
32:58See how close it is to that driveway?
33:00It looks like it's like right at the driveway, and there's a lot of her backyard that's in that driveway.
33:05My daughter lives that in that house.
33:08Well, I mean, that's according to what everything we found surveyed from the previous could could I get Mr.
33:19Okay, I'll give you my number now.
33:22Okay, that's I think if we got you to connect, that'd be great.
33:25That'd help you out.
33:26All right, thank you.
33:27Anyone else here to speak for or against this request?
33:32All right, having heard none commission for us, we have continuous requests for S 1826.
33:37All those in favor say aye.
33:39Aye, those opposed, ayes have it.
33:43With that being said, there's anything else, staff?