0:00Number one with price construction company for approval of Buddy Power Pavilion.
0:07So this is to balance the project with the Northridge pickleball price construction.
0:13What we're asking to do is add additional funding into this contract so that we can do some additional paving at Buddy Powell Pavilion and re-stripe that parking lot.
0:30You want to fresh a refresh us the amounts, Tim.
0:33We went over them last week.
0:35So the change order amount from price construction is 150,000.
0:39We have $30,000 of underrun within the contract currently, and we still have $15,000 within the original budget.
0:47So we're looking for right at $104,000 to execute this change order.
0:53On the screen, you'll see the design.
0:55We've got the existing asphalt on the right hand side of the screen is to have a new seal coat and restriping.
1:01And then on the left hand side you'll see the new asphalt around the perimeter with also with new striping.
1:06There's signage included and a few bollards included as well.
1:12And that uh the differentials coming out of the tourism capital budget, Check.
1:17And Miss Standage, how much does that leave in there?
1:20Um it will leave ballpark 400,000.
1:31Agenda item number two, approval minor public work contract with Red Oak Paint Company for paint service across city campus.
1:38So this is to paint all the exterior exposed steel columns between this building and annex three.
1:45Uh what holds up the sky bridges between uh Annex one and three, also going towards the parking deck.
1:52It'll also paint all the exposed columns and steel at government plaza, the pavilion clock tower out there as well as the handrails.
2:02And it's coming out of building that this is CFG's five-year facility plan.
2:09Second, all in favor.
2:12Agenda item number three, approval of minor publishing work contract, but Taylor Electrical Contractors for installational cabling and uh camera system.
2:21So this is for the infrastructure for the camera system that is for streaming tennis matches at the tennis center.
2:29Um this includes all the underground raceway that has to be installed, raceway that will go to each individual court, both existing and new courts at the tennis center.
2:43So this is the just the infrastructure, not the actual cameras.
2:48Uh has purchased the yeah, cameras have already been purchased.
2:52Yeah, and I've got something of a lesson on this during the week.
2:58Why was it mispositioned for the game with to be completely frank, Mr.
3:06We had no knowledge of this desire during design uh or where these cameras would be placed.
3:12We in design put raceway all over the property for future camera installations.
3:18Um those installation locations are like like poles as we would typically do.
3:25Um it was later brought to us that they would they desired to have these for streaming of the matches and that they need to be located center of the court.
3:36Uh we didn't have this knowledge until about three or four months ago.
3:41So it's it's for streaming, it's not for public safety.
3:45We we have we have installed public safety security cameras inside the facility already.
3:50Um so that that has already been taken care of.
3:54And the stream the streaming just said is one of the requirements they had to get the NCAA tournament there.
4:02Yeah, what I was asking about was shine because I did get an extraction on the stream.
4:11But apparently this is just the wiring so that that can take place, right?
4:18Initially, it wasn't identified that there was going to need to be additional wiring to get to it.
4:26That's what I'm saying.
4:28And just to kind of clarify, we have we have the raceway around the property.
4:32This is going to take that raceway from uh quasi boxes, the the underground electrical boxes and light poles, extend that to center of the court on the fence line of each individual court.
4:45So we've got to go into the landscaping on each court as well as put these throughout the indoor complex that is existing facility.
4:54And excuse me, uh Taylor Electric, they did all the electrical work.
4:58Yes, sir, that's correct.
5:06Agenda item number four.
5:08Approval and balance and change order number one with the construction contract with Snow Blaking for Linton Barbershop level.
5:15So this is the balancing change order for snow blakening at Linton's barbershop.
5:19Uh this project is still ongoing, however, snow blaking scope is at the wrap-up stages.
5:26Uh we've still got some artistry work by Caleb O'Connor to be completed.
5:33Um however, Snowflake is at a point where we would like to balance this contract, and that's an additional twelve thousand dollars.
5:43Through the course of the project, we had several things we did not foresee or did not really anticipate.
5:50There's some additional soding that we needed to do along the perimeter of the property.
5:54Um also uh we we ended up replacing the sidewalk, it's about 150 feet of sidewalk along TY Rogers Avenue.
6:02So those two items are what has put us slightly over the contract.
6:07However, I I will say that this uh original bid came in our final cost estimation was 1.1 million, and this bid came in at 647,000 initially, and this puts us at 660 total motion, second, all in favor.
6:26All right, agenda number five approval minor public work contract with RWC construction LLC to replace various ceilings across the city.
6:36Uh this is funded by both facility renewal as well as water sewer facility renewal.
6:41Uh this this covers two different items.
6:43One is at Ed Low where we've had to repair and modify some HVAC duct work that was above a hard ceiling.
6:49This is to repair that ceiling where we've corrected the ductwork.
6:52Also out here at the drive up to this parking lot.
6:56Um we've had to redo some power for the gates, new gates that have been installed, and this is to reinstall the ceiling in that location.
7:07I don't have a question.
7:09Most sir, all in favor.
7:10All right, motion passed.
7:14Agenda item number six, approval rewarded uh contract with GFC construction for the Greensboro Avenue Streetscape Project Bill.
7:26Noel Linier said this is for award of the construction contract for the Greensboro Streetscape Project.
7:32Uh and the award would be to GFC construction.
7:35The amount is three million eight hundred fifty-two thousand eight hundred and sixty-two dollars and eighty-nine cents.
7:41And for a reminder, this is uh Greensboro Ave between University Boulevard and Seventh Street, so a location up on the screen, and then uh a quick rendering uh top-down view of what we're looking to achieve here.
7:57This is a true streetscape project, uh increasing sidewalk widths, uh freshening up the landscaping, and also some improvements that we made in the final stages of design, some dedicated um delivery zone and parking areas to accommodate some of the delivery challenges that was addressed with these business owners in the area.
8:19What parts uh of the project would not be included?
8:23Yes, it should include everything.
8:25Not a freak, I hope they answered nothing but this covers everything.
8:29What's the timeline on this?
8:31Timeline is uh we want to go to construction beginning of May and finish construction before September.
8:41I guess not to go too long.
8:42We've been blocked blocked.
8:45This covers everything we know of.
8:47This is this will be a challenging project.
8:49Um the timeline's tight, uh, a lot of stakeholders, uh, but this covers everything we know of as a race.
8:55I think GFC is the one that got us that's that stretch of university boulevard Queen City or Pinehurst up to about reach three squished into summer, so they they had their work cut out for them on that one.
9:11How many bidders do we have?
9:13We have five total five, sir.
9:21All right, I don't have any other questions.
9:23Motion second all in favor, aye.
9:26Item number seven approval contract amendment to the engineering service contract docking coker social.
9:32I I did have one other question, and this it might be in here.
9:35What breakdown of the money is from the bond versus the um sir?
9:44So the total bond amount is uh six million applied to the project, and then the elevate amount is five hundred thousand.
9:51So we'll probably expend um all of the elevate five hundred thousand and then whatever the um on which we did for the design work.
10:00So we'll probably expend um all of the elevate five hundred thousand and then whatever the um which we did for the design work so six million dollars in the bond will be about two million and one and a half million, two million under budget for that.
10:09And is that uh is that already site lined or something else?
10:13No, not they're not as of right now.
10:15Okay, that's all just we're there is the time lock and it's time line of the project, the unknowns of just being in downtown Tuscaloosa.
10:24We just don't think at this point it's worth unencumbering that million and a half two million until we get you know through the project so all right.
10:36So the next item this is for approval of an amendment for the engineering services contract with Duncan Coker for the Julia Tutweiler and Campus Drive Improvements Project.
10:47Uh so a quick reminder about the location for this.
10:52This is uh at the Julia Tutweiler intersection just off of McFarland Boulevard.
10:58So this amendment, if you recall, we're getting a trip money for this project.
11:02Uh with that comes the requirement to transition the design to a design that meets all the OL dot requirements.
11:08So that's what this amendment largely accomplishes.
11:12Uh so all the submittals and certifications and plan reformatting for the dot standards, as well as engineering services to go along with the right-of-way uh services during construction and the plan and prospective renderings that we want for this project.
11:25So, similar to your question from before, this should take us all the way through uh the remainder of the project through construction for Dunkin' Coker for their services.
11:35Is this is this involve the wraparound?
11:40So to the bottom of the screen, that purple outlined area.
11:44That's the new interchange that we need to implement in order to accommodate traffic coming off of McFarland Boulevard and getting to Julia Tutweiler and all of the businesses in the school that's in that victim.
11:57So you still won't be able to come out.
12:03So this is off of McFarland only.
12:05Uh we'll not be able to get from Tutweiler on to McFarlane.
12:12Say that one more time, please, Bill.
12:17So uh if you see the blue lines that are to the bottom left of the screen, so that's the OLBAT project.
12:24Fail's point, what they are providing is an off-ramp only from McFarland.
12:29Today you can come and go in the future, it'll be off of McFarland.
12:33That's the one down at the bottom that's off-ramp only.
12:39How did the A-trip money play into it?
12:41It was something you couldn't do with that.
12:44So um oversimplifying, but part of the requirement for oversimplifying big fine.
12:51Part of the requirement for the A-trip is to display how it uh relates to a state route.
12:57So the areas that are highlighted in purple are the areas that directly are connected to state routes, uh, and that's what got us qualified for the A-trip project.
13:10All in favor, motion passed.
13:13Agenda item number eight, approval professional services agreement with TTL for Rice Mine Road Slope Repair Project.
13:25Okay, this is for a professional services agreement with TTL for consulting services for Rice Mine Road Slip Repair.
13:32Um, so back in for a contract amount of 78,142.
13:38Back in December, this was brought before council to have a study completed of the area.
13:42Um, we're here on Rice Mine Road north of the river in between Indian Hills Drive and Overlook Road.
13:49Here you can see some close-up photos of the slope failure.
13:52Um the study's been completed.
13:54We have a recommendation now.
13:56This contract is for moving forward the design to repair the slope failure.
14:03Um are these separate sides of the road or is it no?
14:08It's just two photos.
14:09There's two failures that are kind of right next to each other on that north side of the road in this image.
14:14So you can see picture one and picture two is identified.
14:18So you have picture one on the right, picture two on the left.
14:21And what was this done?
14:27Um, it's gonna be a design to um the recommendation is for a riprap slope.
14:33So if it stabilizes that slope there, so whenever groundwater is introduced, things of that nature, it's not causing that you know erosion condition.
14:43All right, motion second, all in favor.
14:46Motion pass agenda item number nine, approval professional service consulting services with uh Duncan Coker for fourth street and 23th and 23rd Avenue one-way project.
15:00So this is for approval of professional services agreement with Duncan Coker for consulting services again.
15:05Um and the contract amount of 142,796.
15:11Um this project locations in this within this fourth and 23rd corridor.
15:15Um and the goal of the project here is to increase pedestrian safety um and reduce traffic congestion.
15:20Um conceptually, the idea here is to convert this to a one-way corridor with northbound traffic on 23rd Avenue being one way, eastbound traffic along fourth street in that one way, and then southbound traffic on 23rd Avenue.
15:34Um, along with this, there is angled parking, bollards at 4th and 23rd, continental striping, um increased sidewalks along the Timerson Square block, things of that nature to again improve pedestrian safety and reduce congestion.
15:56So this is just designing that area as one way, right?
16:02And as Lane mentioned, along with the sidewalk modifications on the Timerson Square block, um, additional bollards restriping.
16:10Are the bollards fixed?
16:14So it'll be a total of I think we have six removable ones, and the rest of them are fixed, flanking the intersections.
16:25The initial idea was to do all of this work this summer on both blocks.
16:30So this first phase is basically the fourth and twenty-third intersection properything in front of Timerson Square, and then the 23rd Avenue.
16:4123rd is north to south.
16:49There's nothing going on around the east, north and west.
16:57Not with this first phase, no, sir.
16:59We're we're up against the wall to be able to bid this thing for the summer.
17:02Um this came about pretty late in as far as the bid calendar goes.
17:08So the low-hanging fruit, and I think the critical component of the safety improvement of this is the intersection at 4th and 23rd initially.
17:19As y'all look at it, what are the what are the repercussions?
17:26There's a concern over um impact to businesses.
17:33Um, you know, losing the two-way condition.
17:35Uh I you know, quite the other way.
17:38Um, that you know, I think limiting the vehicular traffic to a one-way condition through there, you know, facilitates that ease of movement of the traffic through that area.
17:51So increased circulation throughout the area um with the angled parking to facilitate that one way.
17:57You don't have you know that counter-afflicting traffic for I'd allow asked a lot less questions than 128,000, not 400.
18:05So that's this contract amount is for 142,000.
18:10Um sorry, no, you're fine.
18:14He takes his question, but as you know, we've been looking at this area now seven or eight years.
18:21I mean, we've we've had issues within that entertainment area.
18:25Um we had the most recent incident a few months ago after you know, we're continuously talking to TPD about this area about what we can do to make it safer for pedestrian traffic.
18:37Um we've explored everything from closing the area and making it pedestrian.
18:42Um we feel like this is probably the best option we have if we're going to have pedestrian safety in that area, control traffic flow, um, unless you wanted to close the streets, and I don't think that's an option.
18:57No, I went out there with them on a couple of occasions.
19:00There I see no easy answer.
19:07So to allow this to I mean to support this.
19:14We're gonna work to see if we can get the project included in my April 19th recommendation.
19:21Um we would theoretically like to have this at the same condense time frame as Greensboro Avenue project.
19:29Um I don't know if that's gonna be possible because my understanding this project it's um I guess it's where we are in life, but it's probably an 800,000 dollar construction project to do this, and so because you've got to it's my understanding, you've got to bump out medions, the ballards, all everything else that's included.
19:49I I don't know if we're gonna have the budget capacity to put it into the 26.
19:55It might have to flow into the 27th, but we'll you know, I I can't.
20:00It might have to flow into the 27, but we'll you know I I can't my goal early on was to get this into the 26, but as you'll hear a little bit later when we talk go in finance and talk about RSA conversion, we need a little bit more in RSA conversion, so that's priority one.
20:14So it is I don't know if I'm gonna be able to put this one into the fiscal 26 capital, but I would like to go ahead and get it design, have it in queue.
20:24How many trying to get alpha vision?
20:28I mean, to make uh this this work is relatively as sensitive to the university calendar as correct.
20:38100% we wouldn't want to do this during football season or during the spring or anything like that.
20:44We'd want to try to get it to limit their impact.
20:47Yeah, but I don't have any other questions.
20:53I would like to talk about some concerns with that.
20:57Um my name's Jeremy Wyatt with Redman Bruce in downtown.
21:07The only thing I really have a concern is if this is gonna hurt more than help as far as bottlenecking the traffic.
21:16Because as I've been thinking about this past couple days, and the best thing I could really come up with is a little give and take.
21:23Maybe you know, you talk to every business owner downtown, they're gonna say we want more parking, we want to increase the parking and increase the parking.
21:30Well, obviously, we have an inflow of customers and it's getting busy, you know, the businesses are are bringing in more clientele, and it's a good thing, you know.
21:39And I'm not opposed to any kind of um safety concerns with us, pedestrians.
21:45We want to help all we can't all we can, but I think we have to add some parking somewhere to do this give and take type thing because I mean we're gonna be taking away how many of us about 29%.
21:59So we're gonna be taking away some parking, and that's issue number one with everybody downtown, you know.
22:05Um I think there's not gonna be a solid answer.
22:10This is gonna work because I mean I don't think there's anywhere in Tuscaloosa that we've done this in a congested area that that we went to one way that's actually worked or um and if it has I I you know I'm not sure about it, but I just think bottlenecking all this traffic is gonna cause major concern with over spillage.
22:31Now I'm sure the engineers are gonna do their due diligence and you know figure all that out.
22:35But game days when we're shoving traffic down University to Lurlean, and then we're gonna be landlocked at that point.
22:43Um I don't know, that's just all my concerns, and all the loading zones and stuff.
22:49I mean, they say they're gonna implement loading zones and stuff like that.
22:51I mean, Uber drop-offs, taxis, that's all gonna be fantastic.
22:55Um but taking away parking before we add it somewhere else, I think is gonna is a major concern for me.
23:02I mean, the parking deck has helped all those businesses right along beside five and all those businesses grow.
23:07I mean, that's helped.
23:08Um can they not park at like Parker Hall Park over there?
23:14If they can, they would.
23:15You know, that's why this is a problem.
23:16Obviously, this is Parker Hall Park.
23:19Oh, parker home, just our across down there.
23:23There's uh free public parking, just one fetter just completely in the fair well over a hundred spaces.
23:30So I have parking is probably not the biggest concern in the area.
23:33I do want to make a quick note that the engineering team and Mr.
23:36Duncan has done a masterful job, and then when they modify this area, that the bottlenecking won't happen because you'll have the ability to have a truck delivery and a truck to be able to pass around.
23:46Currently you don't have that.
23:48You have multiple conflicts of movements of both vehicle and pedestrians, so the vehicular movement will actually be a fairly smooth flow laws allowing for vehicles to pass.
23:57So I don't see that as much of an issue on the bottom of that.
24:00Yeah, well, there's you're losing two exits going into one exit.
24:03That's what that's like.
24:04That's the only concern I see.
24:05And when you have you know multiple, multiple vehicles on a Friday and Saturday night trying to look for a park, but they're going in both directions.
24:12And part of that's due to lack of time over.
24:16Well, if we had the parking spots, there wouldn't be a traffic jam.
24:23What I would say on that is if it was meter parking, which is probably what it should be, the term would be there because a lot of its employees parking in there and they'll park for an extended period of time.
24:31So you don't get to talk about after hours too.
24:34Oh sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:36Well, obviously, patrons are downtown, you want to turn them over every two hours.
24:41I mean, somebody might want to go to a restaurant and go see some live music after, you know, we need that time frame.
24:47Or if they go to the amphitheater and you know, all this is shared parking.
24:50Um just I just want to know for the businesses for the council.
24:53One, every business center has been engaged in the area, two, council members have been engaged.
24:58Three, uh Council Busby noted it.
25:00It is there's not a one-shot solution to this.
25:02In order to get vehicular and pedestrian safety in this area, it's probably the best you're gonna get with maintaining parking places.
25:08And we keep stressing pedestrian, which is extremely important, but the HECO complex about 12 a.m.
25:13as you know, very challenging in the area.
25:16Very, very dangerous.
25:20Well, like I said, I maybe it'll work, maybe it won't, but um I think it's gonna for me it's also the question the future, the outlook for the future of what's gonna happen with that area.
25:32I mean, I'm the owner from the Ronald's German restaurant, and um I see the same concerns that if we have uh at the moment uh Uber and Lyft and so on, they just stop somewhere in the middle of the street, and if there are more people more uh more vehicles coming from from uh Reesville, that would just clock up the whole area.
25:51The same as with uh with uh was the flow from going to uh 23rd street, it's the only exit people would have.
25:58That's right, so with the people said with a few with the output for the future, has that been considered in the different scenarios.
26:09I'm pretty sure you did at least three scenarios, and uh what is uh I talked already with a few people.
26:17Why don't you come up here to like I said, my my name is Olaf Maya, I'm the owner from uh Rolls German restaurant, and um we enable us over there, and uh I've got a couple of couple of things uh where I have a concern with is um the scenarios we we got only the information that uh this concept one uh one way road is are there other concepts for example with the outlook for the future?
26:48What can we what can we do in this whole area?
26:51For example, um uh accommodating more festivities like uh like for example a Christmas market like Christmas in the Water or something, or having having uh different different things in that whole area, public viewing, name it.
27:06And uh we block out this complete area, we lose a lot of parking lots, and uh from my experience in the in the uh time I'm there is it's really in the evening, not during the day, during the day we have basically enough parking lots.
27:23But in the evening, all the parking lots are taken.
27:26People that park in uh on the 4th Street, they go working, for example, on University Boulevard, and and this is this is kind of like a concept with uh with uh uh park meters that uh could could have been so could we uh could be solved, but not not necessarily.
27:41Then it's also did you consider the future savings center?
27:46Do they have an increase of the amount of parking lots?
27:49I'm pretty sure they have and uh there's a nice place between the two hotels that could could be a nice area for a parking deck, which would solve kind of like all those problems.
28:01And um Jeremy and I we talked already about it that um if we would kind of like turn this whole area into a pedestrian zone, just give it access to the bank and to the parking lot and one-way flow out of the 22nd street.
28:16That would, and this the rest kind of like as a pedestrian zone, that would be a much, in my opinion, a much much smarter solution, and it will would be also uh beneficial for Tuscaloosa, just Tuscaloosa would due to the fact that we would get more more uh more guests, they would Tuscusa would uh get much much more sales taxes, which I think we should also look in both directions.
28:42One site uh of uh from from the city of Tuscaloosa and also from the businesses if we get more business, more sales tax.
28:52And we we uh um I do want you to know we've looked over the years, we've looked at the concept of the parking deck over there all below.
28:58The city owns the lot below in DC Suites.
29:01The problem is is that you have to go about 40 feet to Fed Rock to begin drilling piles to be able to support a parking deck, and you're talking about $70,000 of parking space to build a parking space and to build a parking deck there.
29:14It's just it's just not an affordable we've even engaged the private sector about saying, you know, if the city were to even provide incentives, could you make a profit operating a parking deck here and it it's just wouldn't work?
29:28Um we've had issues in this area for many many years.
29:32I've met I know we we've been in meetings many times for many many years.
29:37We have to find a safety solution for the nighttime hours of Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights.
29:44We we have to and if we close one street 22nd, which I do love the idea.
29:51I'm with you actually on that one, but then we impact Jalapinos, diplomas.
29:57Now all of a sudden they're saying you've taken our loading zone in our areas from us.
30:01So what we're trying to do is find a solution that makes it safer.
30:06And that so it's it's just hard to balance all those, all those different competing interests, and and what we have is a plan to do that.
30:14And here's what I promise to you because I know the meeting's going long, Mr.
30:18I can hear you with the gavel down there.
30:21Is that allowing us to hire Mr.
30:23Duncan today doesn't mean it's the end of discussion.
30:26It really just means it's the beginning.
30:28And I can promise you he's going to sit down when we have some ideas.
30:32Our team is going to sit down and engage again to see, you know, from a practical standpoint every single day.
30:39But we really want to get moving with this because what happened several months ago was disturbing.
30:44I I get the warnings.
30:45TPD advises us on these issues.
30:49We're deeply concerned about the environment out there many nights.
30:53And we have we're at the point we have to do something.
30:56So we're we we will engage opportunities.
30:59We want you, we're we want y'all to be so successful.
31:03And we don't want people when they Google your business, something bad happening to be the first thing that comes up in the feed.
31:10I I'm I'm promised you that's our goal, and we're gonna work with you.
31:13This is won't be the end, it'll be the beginning, but I feel like we have to do something.
31:18I mean, I'm I'm totally with you.
31:19I totally understand that for me is in general, not just uh that we have kind of like all the things, uh pluses and minus for different concepts and not just like okay, we we found a solution now, we have to push it through, and then uh we have to uh wait another five years until we have the next decision.
31:39I think it should be uh very very short-term dynamic that we can get this off.
31:45And and one idea is having a parking deck over there.
31:48The other idea would be having finding somewhere uh kind of like a lavelage spot where we can put some parking lots or a cop uh parking deck, but don't have to spend the 70,000 dollars per parking lot and having maybe a a shuttle, yeah.
32:04Having maybe a shuttle because at the moment um the problem is that Mayor for the sake of time, I don't mean to cut you off, but we got a long agenda of a full schedule finance, so we could probably talk about it.
32:17Okay, yeah, we'll and I'll I wish you would be invited to that.
32:23That I'm sorry, that wouldn't be a Samurai make a motion.
32:29Um I'm gonna support it.
32:31It's it's a mixed bag, Jeremy Wolf.
32:33Appreciate y'all coming in.
32:38All right, motion approved.
32:40All right, very number 10.
32:45Approved professional services agreement with Porter Higginsbot Engineering for engineering service related to Scottin Boulevard fiber uh good afternoon, council.
32:57So this is a contract for professional services of Porter Higginsbotham for 28,000 five dollars.
33:03This is for them to do survey and uh create the documents required for L dot permitting for IT to install fiber along the south side of Skyland Boulevard.
33:13So this will roughly go from the like BMW Barkley dealerships over to uh firehouse number nine.
33:21So we'll go to Woodland Forest and then go south.
33:24Um the LDAP permit is required for them to be able to bore and put this fiber in.
33:30Second, all in favor?
33:33Um approval warding contract with ST Boss Construction Company for the 2026 city wide resurfacing project.
33:42Is that so this is our yearly resurfacing project?
33:45We had two bidders, ST Bunn was a little bitter at just over 9.8 million.
33:50Uh this did come in over budget due to kind of the uh fuel prices that we've seen, the uncertainty in that.
33:56We think that's really what affected it.
33:57So there will be an item on finance to go along with this to make up for that over budget amount.
34:03Where's the extra mining camera?
34:05Sir, do you know where's the extra mining?
34:07We'll be pledging uh this year's Alabama gas tax funds.
34:18Agenda item number 12, approval professional service agreement with Show Engineering Company for engineering service for academy drive drainage project.
34:25So this is one of the NOAA's R 2.0 drainage projects.
34:28This is their proposal for design.
34:30Uh this is the Academy Drift subdivision where we're having flooding on Stone River Road, where there's some undersized culverts and some other undersized pipes that we're gonna be addressing along that drainage.
34:40So this is just north of the Indian Hills Country Club.
34:46This is what we discussed before, right?
34:48What's the total again?
34:50It is uh 292,612 and 50 cents.
34:54And that takes us all the way to the bid phase.
35:04Thanks, number 13, approved professional service contract with Hughes Aerospace Corporation.
35:13The short version of this is that we're proposing the interim uh flight procedures uh during the runway extension project.
35:21Uh it's a 495-day contract because we're displacing the runway.
35:25Uh we're shortening the runway, it cancels the existing procedures by uh implementing these interim procedures allow operations to be less impacted to fly in and inclement weather, and also provides insurance on the back end that we have procedures ready to go once the full length.
35:40Right now, the FA is advising that our uh the FA's procedures, the permanent procedures may be between June and September 30th, 2027.
35:49Uh by using a third party, it prevents the athletic department to have a second fall season forgoing their charters.
35:57Uh here's an example of what flight procedures look like.
36:01Uh, this is what they'd be construction uh constructing on behalf of the FA.
36:05Uh they were recommended.
36:07Hughes Airspace was recommended to create a a flight procedure that would be initiated this fall during our busiest time of the year, and then once full length construction is available for full-length runway pavements available, they would amend this procedure to reflect the full 7600 feet.
36:24Uh the contract is based off the option of uh doing the fall, and if we at by January, if we feel like the the FA schedule is not gonna be ready, we can tell this contractor to go ahead and initiate the full length procedure.
36:39This reflects the displacement, 800 feet.
36:41This will start in uh April, mid-April, and go all the way through next spring.
36:49The uh red portion is is kind of uh a visual map of where that would be uh that's causing the cancellation of the existing procedures, and then here's their proposal option one for this fall would be 77,400.
37:05If we uh elect option two, uh that would make a not to exceed of overall 140,000.
37:11The funding for this is out of elevate.
37:13We're asking to use the savings that we realize from the bid opening results with this project.
37:18Uh we asked we saved over uh almost two million dollars.
37:22We're asking to use 140,000 of that for this agreement.
37:29Oh I'll make a motion.
37:32Yeah, what's the repercussion of the temporary procedure?
37:37It's a benefit to have them.
37:39Uh the risk is much more concerning to us if we do not have this if we rely solely on the FA's uh schedule.
37:47We could go into late fall 2027, and the university would have to forego charters for a second year.
37:54Second, all in favor.
38:05Uh economic agreement.
38:15Hello, good afternoon.
38:17I'm I'm gonna try and keep this brief.
38:18I know we're running late.
38:20Uh Michael Laney, the landing property group.
38:22Yeah, counsel, thank you for uh hearing this.
38:25So we came to finance committee.
38:27I would say maybe two months ago, uh, had one review, then we had another one for this project Springbrook.
38:36It was uh approved, and we went to council.
38:40Uh we received a uh an agreement between the city and landing property group, and we we found some uh issues with the agreement, so we replied, and then this has been tabled, and so since then we've been kind of at a at a stalemate, so we're here today to hopefully maybe get this going in the right direction and and and start this process again uh and and talk with council.
39:05We uh what y'all got here in front of you is is our six main bullet points for uh the agreement and if if I can just run through them real quick.
39:16Um, like I said, I'll be brief.
39:18Uh the the agreement we received is for uh a shopping center type development.
39:25This is a subdivision of six parcels, it's going to be uh six separate facilities, and we can't give a square footage.
39:34We can't do it's not gonna be one big shopping center where we can utilize like that.
39:39So that was that was the first big thing, and so we're we're trying to change that.
39:42And uh the second is the new to market business, it's kind of been a a buzzword for this agreement.
40:00uh six separate facilities and we can't give a square footage we can't do it's not gonna be one big shopping center where we can utilize like that so that was that was the first big thing and so we're we're trying to change that and uh the second is the new to market business is kind of been a a buzzword for this agreement where we the agreement calls for six new to market businesses or we get no incentives without uh what for us what we've looked at and what we've what we had always considered is in the event that there uh we we couldn't bring a new to market tenant we would fill that hole with someone that was a suitable but we wouldn't get any incentives and so you know whether it be medical or or whatnot in our original proposal we we we had medical in there and other other not not all retail but we would not receive any incentives or or tax incentives in the event that that it was not a new to market and we define new to market as as uh you know someone that's not existing in in in the market or a new tenant in in that space where let's say if uh not armies I don't think that's a good example right now but uh uh if if if uh McDonald's wants to open a new store they don't close their existing store open a new store that would be a new to market so um and and those details can be worked out um payment period we've got 25 years we talked about trying to start that at uh the time we get our our third tenant which uh is is what we were had proposed was three new to market tenants uh so once we get the third tenant is when we would start the payment period um labor force construction materials there's several uh yeah like trying to come in and use city employees for something we don't control like if we do a ground lease and it's a national tenant uh they're they're gonna come in and bring in their own people whether it's union whether it's whatnot wherever they're from they're bringing their group with them we we have no control over that so we can't agree today to say this is what uh this is the uh we'll agree to work with the labor force union and and and whatnot in Tuscaloosa but we can't agree anything we do but work with site work uh you know especially material source of materials with uh locally within whatever parameters so I mean our objective and goal would be to work with local communities and right now we're working uh with uh jimmy duncan over there in his group so we're um I mean you know we're we're using local engineers and and and we'll continue continue to use those uh last was the employee guarantee um we had given a guideline and and then that ended up in the in the agreement uh I I've talked to staff about that there you know we're trying to work through that uh you know we could we could try to hit a a number and and and validate that at one time uh during the during the project and say this this number's here I mean us guaranteeing you know a big number of employees for the life of the project is which is a 17 18 year payout I mean hopefully if everything goes well then that's that's gonna be a tough ask for us to be able to guarantee that there's uh 200 plus employees on on payroll there the whole time but I you know I think there will be a point where there will be a number and and we'll we'll hit that number so uh you know the the big thing about this whole agreement is it it is a performance based agreement based on the tenants we bring in new to market and their sales and we don't get paid unless those sales numbers hit and so we're we're taking a big rest we're putting all the money up and we're we're hoping that these guys come to Tuscaloosa they thrive and and we're able to hit all of our rates and for our investors for ourselves and for everything else.
43:38So it's it's not just as simple as uh we're trying to get tax incentives we're getting you know we're getting it based on the performance of them and we're splitting some with the city and it's it's all sales tax it's no ad valirum it's no uh use it's no none of that it's just sales tax so anyway I was trying to be quick so I apologize if y'all have any questions I mean I'll I'll feel free to ask or or y'all can hit me offline.
44:08So you've got three new to market tenants already committed.
44:13I mean are you you work yes okay and when we say committed I mean they're yeah ideally they're they're signed up they're they're ready to go but I mean something could happen that I it's outside of my control and so but we're still if one of them drops off it'd be a similar use something like that it would be similar to to that use would still fill the space right and it would need to be a new to market.
44:43So I wanted to bring you here Mike I want anybody who had questions to ask you why you were here so you can present what you had and uh if the staff or anybody has something they could present what they had so we could all get on one accord I can get we can get all the information in one room so everybody can have the same understanding of this project so we can go ahead and vote and decide what we're going forward or not and uh so I'm open to the floor for that.
45:00I can get we can get all the information in one room so everybody can have the same understanding of this project so we can go ahead and vote and decide whether we're going forward or not.
45:05Um and uh so I'm I'm open to the floor for that.
45:10Um I'm hoping that you could if anything you need to work out, you can work work it out with Brendan or whoever you work with uh with the city.
45:20But my thing is I I want to be fair with you.
45:22Uh if you can't get all the materials in Tuscaloous, then that's fine.
45:26If we can't, you know, I'm I'm just being honest.
45:28I'm sure everybody who developed here don't get everything from low the home depot, and I want to be fair with this development, you know what I mean.
45:37Um my whole thing is trying to bring something new to District 7.
45:42And as far as the risk, I think you're taking a lot of the risk, but the city's not giving up everything because it's a percentage that we're splitting, right?
45:50All right, so um I wanted you know what I mean.
45:54I want the council to hear everything out in the open because uh I mean I mean these are the major points in the project that I just went through and I ran through the you know the the with the agreement where we were and I've I've sent this to staff and so they've had it, and and you know, we're we're we're I mean we're sitting on oh, you know, waiting on G.
46:17I mean, we're we're we're ready for it.
46:18We want to we want to do this project.
46:20I I love Tuscaloosa.
46:22I mean, my I've my I Hunt landed hours south here.
46:26I lived here, you know.
46:27I was here when when Walt ran for uh his first uh race.
46:32I mean that was that was a minute ago.
46:34But I I mean I've I lived here for five years and and uh in Kipp District, and I mean it's it's this I I like this town and I want to and we we do projects all over the state similar to this.
46:46We're performers, uh we you know we're closers, we get things done, and most people are happy, and I mean we can you know we can get referrals and you know I think Brendan said that in the beginning, and and uh one of y'all's bigger developers gave us a recommendation here.
46:59So I mean he knows who we are.
47:00I mean, we're not just fly by the night.
47:02The group that had this before was that kind of group, and I think that kind of you know may have may have muddy the waters a little bit, but but those days are over, and I mean we're here ready to push this thing forward.
47:14So I have a question.
47:16Will this go before the city council?
47:20Well, if it passes fine.
47:24Yeah, it will go for us again.
47:26So and Scott, I wanted to know what so what do we need to do from here?
47:30If I mean, I want to make sure the council is certified by because I want to get some on the table so we can I mean I know we tabled it in definitely, so what do we need to do for sure?
47:40So and and I'll let Mr.
47:41Bobbit speak to this because he's been more more hands-on on with this one.
47:46But what was what was redlined and came back to us was not what was presented and agreed on in here.
47:51And so that's how we ended up with with the tabling.
47:54And so depending on, and again, I'll let Mr.
47:56Bobbitt speak with this.
47:58If if council wants to move forward, or if the committee wants to move forward with what's been proposed here today, um, I'll let Mr.
48:08Bobbitt speak to whether or not that is uh different than the terms that have been published in the 772 notice and whether or not we'll have to restart that process.
48:24What's been proposed, the two drafts that have come back are different than what the council approved in the 772 notice.
48:31So yes, we gotta start the process over.
48:34Well, what was different and what came back if you if you can talk to us a little bit about what what are the sticking points that were different.
48:43You remember we showed you the red line draft.
48:46That was a lot of different things in there.
48:49The difference this time is that gone from six to three, the agreement is only for three, not six lots now.
48:57We haven't seen any new financials based upon the three.
49:01So the thing about it is the two drafts that we have got are not what was approved by the city council.
49:10So yes, we would have to start over that.
49:13So the difference, Mr.
49:14Laney, too, it's then uh I actually so now you all are asking for incentives after three.
49:20And I think initially we were saying you you're asking for incentives after six.
49:25And and maybe there was there was some confusion there, and it was and and in our presentation, uh, and then like I said, maybe I I was out of town, and then I'm not saying it without John I would have done anything different than John, but well we had always said, you know, we we if if we can't if we can't fill a lot with a new to new to market tenant, we've got to be able to sell that lot to a medical or someone like that, somebody that can come in to pay us to get us whole.
49:52And we're not gonna get incentives on anybody over three if they're not new to market, and we're only gonna get incentives for the entire project if we bring in three new to market.
50:02Uh and so that that's that was what we understood, and that I mean that's what we're where where we're trying to get now.
50:10Now, if that's if that was misinterpreted, that's that's only my apologies.
50:14And and if that's the agreement, then and we have to start over, then we're gonna have to start over because I can't agree for six new to market tenants, or we get nothing.
50:22I mean, that's just I I can't, I mean, that's that's a deal killer for us.
50:29Well, we want to bring six new to market tenants because we're only getting paid if we bring a new to market tenant.
50:34Uh and Tom, all the financials that were in the first go around, the incentive amount was based on six new to market tenants.
50:45So I'd like to say something if I can, I'll get through.
50:51So I guess my question is, Tom, is when can we get uh Mike back in the ring with Brendan or who whoever the team is to get to refigure the number?
51:04Yeah, let's get this thing back, you know, let's get it back rolling because I mean I I feel like we need to I don't how do the numbers change in?
51:11Let me ask you this.
51:12How do the numbers change?
51:14If it could just feel not debating back forces to be mindful.
51:19Lanier, for council standpoint, it will require a full resubmission.
51:22If the jobs do not meet the requirements on advertising, that's a full resubmission.
51:26The tenants and categories were listed by sector in the application with the common uh score, excuse me, corresponding sales numbers that will all have to be re-run.
51:34Materials will have to be redone.
51:36So the full agreement that is up for vote will have to be resubmitted, redone, and repackaged.
51:41So it's just starting over or going with what's available today.
51:44Brandon, I got a question.
51:45So you said the materials one of the requirements were was he buy all the materials he's building with local.
51:51I don't think it's all the materials.
51:55And typically on that item, council and air, there are exceptions that um if provided by the developer or by the tenant that Mr.
52:03Bobbett has worked on.
52:04We've done this in a variety of, you know, tenant X buys their window systems or the roofing systems or XYZ or ABC from this preferred vendor because they do so many different deals with them.
52:15That we've accommodated that on a handful of it.
52:17So I see that as achievable.
52:21Okay, for if a national chain says, hey, we buy all our materials from this place.
52:25Yeah, we've got the deal.
52:27We we built something similar on Shops at Legacy Park, and you have nothing but national tenants.
52:30And I want to know so would that be even possible?
52:32Could you make that happen if 50% mine here is that with is that even possible?
52:37Oh, with a with a with I mean if we're doing a ground lease, I I mean I don't control the right the construction.
52:43Now for me, if I'm doing it's mo mostly site work and and clear, yeah, we can we can accommodate that or if we're we're doing a build of suit, we can work around that.
52:54But I mean it's it makes it you know it's it's not it's not undoable, no.
52:59I mean, but but I I guess the main thing I want to get at is is like these six points that we've been trying to get to the table to.
53:07I mean, what what are what how can we you know just nail these down?
53:12I mean it you know, we we said the new to market, if you're saying I'm I'm not gonna do six new tenants, we've got to rerun the numbers and start over, but I don't I don't really know why the numbers would change because our goal is to get six, but we don't want to lose the whole deal if we get only three.
53:30I mean, and so that's I guess that that's the numbers would still be the same because our goal would be to get six, but we don't want to spend 20 15 million dollars of our money and ten million dollars of of tenant money or whatnot, and and then not get anything because on a deal that doesn't pencil unless we get the incentives.
53:52So I I just you know we're just trying to figure out on our end what what we need to do.
53:58And I'm sounds like you're trying to work at cash song.
54:01Yeah, I mean I I and Mr.
54:04Bobbitt can correct me.
54:06Modifications to what has been tabled at council most of these sound substantial enough for that.
54:13We'll just have to restart the process.
54:16I mean, just simply put, is that accurate topic?
54:19And you can can we not, I mean, I and I know I don't know how long it takes for this on my field of expertise, but I don't want to drag it six months.
54:28I mean, I'm I'm I'm anxious for something to happen in my district, right?
54:31And if I'll be if I'll be up front, we would the city's not spending any upfront money, right?
54:39We're not taking a risk, we don't have to go to the bond for this money or anything, right?
54:44So it only happens if this big these businesses perform, right?
54:48So I feel like we need to I I mean I'm willing to take a chance on that.
54:52I mean, I'm I'm desperate for something to happen in my district, and so if if we could move expeditiously, I'd be really satisfied.
55:01If there was a resubmission, that's what would have to happen.
55:03You would actually have to as noted previously, the sector of tenants, and so we can call set out.
55:08Uh typically we do it with identified tenants, which is easier to do an analysis run.
55:13That's traditionally how we do it.
55:14So you've got that column there.
55:16The alternative column would be if you don't bring six due to markets, where are you plugging in those holes?
55:20Because the medical use, this use, this use, that can affect property tax.
55:24That could affect obviously if there is no sales tax or their use taxes start changing our performance.
55:29Right, right, right.
55:30So then all of a sudden, what we provided you from a financial standpoint would be inaccurate at this point.
55:35So we would need to go back for so I mean that's completely up to you.
55:40You have one today that's the terms as noted that you could vote on, or that could be resubmitted and we can run through the traps like we've done does a times in the last few years.
55:53So yeah, I just want to.
55:56I do want to note it is a from a timing standpoint.
56:00Uh it's I mean you're at minimum with advertising committee structure, review, submission.
56:05It's not necessarily a super quick process.
56:08It would just depend on how fast you could submit reviews could get done really quickly.
56:12I mean we've got our submit all in a box over there.
56:15We're ready to submit right now.
56:16I think y'all still have a pending item at council.
56:19So so what do we what do we need to do brand news for us?
56:22So the item that was tabled indefinitely will be come back to the council under unfinished business from there.
56:28That item will need to be officially withdrawn from the table.
56:32I believe then the city attorney's office and branding's team can start working the what they need to for the 772 hearing.
56:38Okay, so we can get that on council next.
56:41Well, that's what that's what I'm that's what I need to do.
56:49Thank you, Tom, for clearing that up.
56:53We got two more committees.
56:58So we got time for that.
57:04Any any more questions about the students?
57:08Uh we need to adjourn here.
57:12Yeah, we're taking questions.
57:13So we're 330-ish now.
57:22We just need an adjournment.
57:24This one you have five or ten minutes for that to be for her.