week there's a motion to adopt those we're going to motion second all in favor say aye aye okay minutes are adopted item number one miss standridge general fund budget revision number nineteen yes good afternoon council good afternoon um ever since uh miss lily mackintre has joined our department as the grants manager she's been rocking and rolling with everything um and there are two app uh application submittal requests on the agenda today and the general fund budget revision that I have right now is to accept and budget for another one um if you will recall a few months ago we had um an application in front of you to um for the SWAT team's night vision goggles it was with the project safe neighborhoods we were awarded that grant at just under 5000 dollars and so we are requesting to create a revenue line for 5000 and then increase TPD's equipment line by that same amount any questions or comments second all in favor say aye aye item is approved item number two miss mackindre chief bagents and uh chief parker council this is authorizing a grant application to um for the cop safer outcomes grant it is a federal request of 125000 this will go to relevant de-escalation and crisis response training and there is no city match involved we are requesting for this to be doubled up okay chief yes sir it's just gonna help us with training and so the cops cop safer outcome sounds pretty broad what what's going on be de-escalation training it'll help with some of our crisis intervention training stuff like that okay any questions or comments from other members or non-members there a motion second all in favor say aye aye item is approved thank you item number three uh you're still up Ms.

McIntyre this is um seeking approval to submit an application to the DOT for the FY26 stopping threats on pedestrians grant program this will go towards installation of bollards around government plaza and multiple intersections along University Boulevard um the catch with this is that we are currently trying to partner with UA on this grant so the total amount that we have put is 2.5 million we're not set in stone on that right now but there is no city match it's a reimbursement grant so um I'm sorry and you you explained it to us before but I didn't I didn't grasp the full implications of that so what it just means that like there's no call there's no city city match to this so what we put into it will get reimbursed.

But what may change will be the total dollar the total dollar amount that we have would you have to come back or we can once we get the total dollar amount so it's going to council um next Tuesday the resolution would so once we have an update if you want to we could table this item for next week or we can just brief you I don't think of any need to say that it's Bill tell us what the vision is for the ballard and where and all that is so two areas that we developed concepts for the just last through you quickly but uh on the city side we're targeting you know high traffic areas during some of the big events we have downtown so government plaza uh which was the slide previously that showed government plaza and the parking deck as the target area we'd be looking to do some ballards uh and the concept is in line with what you've seen on the Greensboro project on the street corners and also what you've seen coming about in some of the areas in the university campus Duncan Coker is helping us with this concept they've worked with the city and with the university on similar concepts so a lot of continuity in the thought process involved uh and again targeting the areas where we see high uh population density for all of the events downtown game day weekends etc etc so that's why you see those areas that we're targeting uh it's a concept at this point and the proposal request does include the design proposal from Duncan Coker so the city hasn't spent any money on this yet chance we could get uh full reimbursement for it and then as Lily pointed out the university has you know after we developed this topic for the agenda they came and asked about the potential for partnering so if there's a compatible grant application that's something that we could consider similar concepts their locations but closer to campus where it's the quad and again university below our looking to protect some of the large population areas so we're we're ball retractable or fixed retractable right I think we would probably steer away from retractable in these areas um retractable is great if they work sometimes you get some maintenance challenges where they either deploy when they shouldn't or deploy don't deploy when they do so uh the concept was developed off of uh fixed as well as removable in some areas where you're gonna want to have access and was that a part of the it is that a part of the current state of the Greensboro I mean the university boulevard redo yes sir

Um retractable is great if they work.

Sometimes you get some maintenance challenges where they either deploy when they shouldn't or deploy don't deploy when they do.

So uh the concept was developed off of uh fixed as well as removable in some areas where you're gonna want to have access for these vehicles.

And was that a part of the it is that a part of the current state of the Greensboro?

I mean the University Boulevard redo.

Yes, sir.

So Greensboro project has it, you see it in real life.

And again, don't get code for working all those uh favorably, so it's consistent with our process.

Okay.

So mechanically, do you come for approval for every grant you apply for before you apply for it?

Yes, sir.

Okay.

Any other questions, comments?

I'll make a motion.

Second.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Item is approved.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Item number four, stop loss insurance renewal.

Uh Ms.

Herbert.

Yes, sir.

Good afternoon, Mayor and Council.

This is a request to renew our stop loss insurance.

Stop loss is the insurance that protects our health insurance from catastrophic losses.

Um, we currently use high mark.

We're requesting to keep the same coverage that we did last year, um, which is a 125,000 dollar aggregate deductible, and then 325,000 deductible per individual person that we insure.

Um so our um coverage costs 57 and 80 cents per contract this year, and then next year it would increase to 83 and 11 cents per contract.

Um the reason being when we took our our plan to get quotes, there were 12 carriers, they all declined to quote us except for the carrier that we are with now, and that is just simply due to the number of high dollar claims that we have on our coverage.

So, what is our total cost go off?

So the total cost, um it will go from I'll give you that amount in FY26, it was 795,559, and it would go to 1.143 million, so it's a 40% increase.

And so the the amount, the $83.11 per contract, that is the monthly amount, and that is automatically calculated into the insurance premiums.

So it's already budgeted.

So when does this go into effect?

October.

No, but as far as like when would it be used as an employee you use some amount of coverage?

So the way it works, the city has a hundred and twenty-five thousand dollar aggregate deductible, and so that's taken off the top, and then if we have any of our insureds have 325,000 of health insurance claims, then the stop loss kicks in and reimburses us for any amount over that during that 10-1 to September 30th period.

So, how often do we you have an employee use more than 350,000 a year?

Yes, sir.

Over the last couple of years, we've had four to six that have consistently gone over our stop loss.

Um, as of June 30th, we've paid five hundred and ninety-six thousand dollars in premiums.

We've gotten back eight hundred and eighteen thousand.

Um, so each year we've been reimbursed over the last couple years, anywhere from about two to three hundred thousand over the premiums we pay up to a million.

There was one year about two or three years ago where stop loss actually the company lost a million dollars.

Um, and so that's why our premiums as far as the stop loss are the amount that they are.

So it it has benefited us more than it's benefited high mark.

You know, we've talked on our phone call about some of the details staggering.

I had no you've alluded in kind of broader terms, mayor, to how much of that um payout is concentrated in a few cases and it's it's staggering.

I have no idea.

Okay, any uh I was just gonna say is that as I told you during last week's budget presentation, ums Herbert and her team, and we'll all of us are committed to trying to put some new options on the table.

Uh you'll see one this year um or one today.

Not is it.

No, next week we'll we will come before you all and uh we want to introduce the third option.

Okay, so we'll bring that up.

Yes, sir.