Other than Joe and Bill.

Bob, why did I say Bill?

Bob.

I do know who our task force members are, really.

So Joe and Bob, everyone else is present.

And we can move on to our first item, which is discussion item.

And working through kind of how to walk out of here with hopefully some recommendations today if we're comfortable.

Leaning on a lease for guidance on the meeting.

Kind of the thought was to do a discussion item first with kind of looking through survey results, kind of seeing where our alignment is, and that way when we go into the first action item, we can have recommendation, hopefully, that we are all comfortable with to go forward.

So that's kind of the goal of the first discussion item is to look through those, and they were sent to everyone.

Did everyone have a chance to kind of look through them?

Elise, do we need to go through them in general, or can I pick out highlights and discuss them that way?

Is that okay?

Okay.

Kind of my my thought by having us do a survey is it kind of starts immediately identifying where we have alignment and where we don't have alignment.

Um, and we can focus on those areas to hopefully drive us to consensus was my thought, if that's okay with the group.

Um the places that I saw that we had really clear agreement when it comes to a board that's diverse at the industry, 100%.

We're all there.

Um, and so that's something we can easily include in our whatever our final recommendation is.

That's a structure that we can really um definitely hang on to and want to move forward.

Um the other um when we started moving from, and I I think that the comments we all made on boards, some of the things that um I think as we start setting up bylaws, these are really important.

We can share them with Sherry, um, who I'm sure will help us on the things.

The the comments I saw that were super important are things like non-participation, um you know what can where can a board fail?

It's on the non-participation side, not getting people to commit, um, not having you know good backing from staff to support the board.

And so I think we can take all those types of comments and make sure that whatever format we move forward as we write the organization documents, we take all of our comments and try to loop them into those so that we have a strong body that can avoid the pitfalls that we're all afraid that might come up.

So are there any comments as far as strength or weakness of a board that you guys want to pull out more than others or I was surprised how inline we all were.

There wasn't like a lot of skew off of the main.

I saw diversity was a big thing in here and accountability were common threads.

So I thought it was actually we were all more aligned than I thought.

Yeah, I think even our diversions aren't that far off.

So yeah.

Um, and so that I think is is we're super aligned on that.

The other next thing we went to was oversight um and trying to create something that has oh yes, Magdalene.

I have a question.

So when I read this um agenda, uh statement, summary statement.

It says that the um the survey was sent to the members, members of this task force.

Ah, okay.

Yes, members of the.

This is it was an internal task force email.

So um, and the next one was really looking at oversight.

Um, and we were very aligned on that that we would like to whatever we make a recommendation forward that we would have some more oversight that we could work with.

Um to not to not allow us to get to where we are today, I guess would be my my narrative.

Um and so in that um the parts I was gonna pull out that I that I saw and then have everyone add to it is more than 50 percent of us on all of the results were thinking that it would be good to have some oversight on board appointment from council, um, having ex-officios as well, or an equation thereof, as well as really strong bylaws that guide the organization.

So um other things that came up was um you know having financials that are more accessible to city members and as well as um having someone support us in those processes.

Um what other things we would need to be able to have more oversight.

Um, some of the comments were relative to board training, um, so that those that are appointed have real clear guidance on where what their roles are and what they should be doing, um, have access to regular financials and monthly reporting.

All of again, I think as we write organizational documents, we can pull lots of that into it.

Um did you guys have anything more specific on oversight you want to add?

I think being aligned on those two things are it's just a large leap forward, right?

Um and then this I I we threw in there just some basic conversations on membership, and this is where we start to see, and I think this is where there's a more open conversation needed.

Um probably didn't write the questions very well.

Um, but the part of the diversion, um, the first one is do you think that there should be enrolled members in the new DMO?

Um, and we're kind of split between 57 and 42 percent.

To me, that's not a big lean in any direction.

Um, and so I think it's worth kind of having a conversation as to what we all might see some of the pluses and minuses being.

I think it's clarification of what membership means.

Okay.

Um for me, it's not um in the past, you know, membership was defined as you know, you signing up to be a member of the BCB, which actually I haven't seen a membership for in three years.

Um the benefit of being a member was that then you you know could have access to different kinds of marketing for you that maybe you'd like to buy into or be part of the listings, you know, just be part of the part of the package that goes out to the public, however that this particular DMO chooses to market us, you're part of it.

I think the the only thing that gets it's not a tricky thing, but being fair to all members is why you have a membership in my mind.