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Waukesha Transit Commission Meeting - June 18, 2026

Public MeetingsThursday, June 18, 2026
BodyWaukesha, Wisconsin
SessionPublic Meetings
DateThursday, June 18, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:06

Yep, we're ready when you are we'll go ahead then and get started with the Board of Public Works uh meeting, or excuse me, transit commission meeting for uh Thursday, June 18th, 2026.

0:18

We'll start with a roll call.

0:20

Uh Chad O'Donnell?

0:21

Kevin Riley.

0:22

Joel Piper.

0:22

Eileen Nicholas.

0:24

All right.

0:24

With that, we'll move to the Pledge of Allegiance.

0:30

Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one underall.

0:38

Indivisible liberty and justice.

0:45

All right.

0:46

Anyone here for public comment?

0:49

Seeing none, we'll move to election of officers.

0:54

Kevin Riley makes a motion that Chad O'Donnell be chairperson for the next calendar year.

1:01

Micklitz seconds.

1:05

Alex, I believe we need to nominate a do we need to nominate a co-chair as well?

1:10

A vice chair?

1:12

Doing it all in one would be ideal.

1:15

And then Kevin Riley also nominates himself as vice chair.

1:19

And just for clarification, it wouldn't be the calendar year, it would be the I don't know, the all the manual year.

1:25

All the Matic year.

1:26

Yeah.

1:27

Okay.

1:32

I still second.

1:33

All right, a motion and a second, any discussion.

1:36

That will take a vote.

1:37

O'Donnell, I.

1:38

Kevin Riley, aye.

1:39

Piper I.

1:40

Miklitzai.

1:41

All right.

1:41

Motion passes.

1:42

We'll move to item 5A.

1:44

5A, we have the presentation from uh Baker Tilley on the 2025 transit financial audit.

1:51

Uh Jody Dobson, a principal at Baker Tilley, will be here is coming up to give that presentation.

1:58

So I'll turn it over to Jody.

2:08

Thank you very much for having me here tonight.

2:11

Um you have in front of you a two-page um kind of summary of the audit process and results, and then there's also the full financial statements.

2:23

So similar to prior years, our audit process starts in the fall with planning.

2:27

Um we work with management to understand what may have changed during the year in processes or systems or contracts, et cetera, and use that to design how we want to complete our audit process.

2:40

We use a number of different procedures to obtain audit evidence, whether that be confirmations, tracing things to supporting documentation, completing analytic procedures, testing controls, et cetera.

2:53

Um, but ultimately we're able to issue our audit opinion on the financial statements for the transit operations.

2:59

And they received what we call an unmodified or a clean opinion.

3:02

So that's the highest level of assurance that we can give, and that says that the financial statements are fair presentation in all material respects of the of the financial position and the results of operations for the year.

3:23

Um, because of the receipt of federal grant funding, the transit operations, their grants are typically part of that single audit that has to be completed, both for state and federal funding.

3:34

So there we test both controls and compliance with the grant agreements, and there were no issues identified this year for the transit operations.

3:44

So then if we go to the next page here, we've got just a couple financial highlights.

4:04

Um, but really stable operations, as well as the mix of information or of sources is very stable year over year.

4:15

Um then at the bottom we have the expenses, and here the expenses actually decreased a little bit in 2025.

4:24

Um as we looked there, there was a small decrease in the overall labor and benefits as well as materials and supplies and purchase transportation, um, the purchase transportation related to some changes in the Route 1 extension.

4:40

Um that was anticipated there.

4:43

But overall, the mix again, relatively consistent with labor and benefits being the largest portion of the expenses, and that's consistent with every transit operation I work with.

5:03

And that was by design.

5:06

Management has been working to draw down some of the ARPA or CARES funding that was available.

5:12

Um and in the process of doing that is able to take some of the local subsidy from the city and set that aside into the reserve account so that if there are future years where an unanticipated expense were to occur or something like fuel is above budget, that there is a reserve to pay for those types of items.

5:34

And so I did want to note in looking at the overall financial statements that the reserve fund at the end of 2025 was just over 1.6 million.

5:51

So I think overall the audit this year went very smoothly.

5:55

You know, we didn't have any difficulties.

5:57

Management gets us everything we need and has answers along the way.

6:01

And the overall results look very stable and positive.

6:06

With that, I'm happy to answer any questions as well.

6:09

If I can just say one thing, and I apologize to Carrie, but uh Carrie Plato, our finance director, is here, and um she does the bulk of this.

6:17

This is the fine work that she does.

6:22

Um whatever.

6:23

Jody, thank you for your work and Carrie.

6:25

Also thank you for the work that you do.

6:27

Um I'm so I'm on the balance sheet, and I just had a couple questions about the reserve fund.

6:32

So I know Alex and Brian and I have talked about that.

6:36

So I see I should have brought my cheaters.

6:39

So I see the the bump of about a million bucks from 24 to 25 and other funds reserve, right?

6:45

And I also see the line above it due from other funds jumped by about a million two.

6:50

So I guess it's two-part question.

6:52

So are where are where is the COVID money?

6:57

Where what in what buckets on the balance sheet is the COVID money sitting currently?

7:02

I guess that's my first question.

7:04

So the amounts that you have not yet drawn are not actually on the statements.

7:10

They're tracked in a grant available for you to draw, but you have to have qualified expenses to draw those additional funds.

7:17

So where's that?

7:18

So is that cash still sitting with the feds?

7:21

Yes.

7:21

Okay.

7:22

I guess that's the note that I think that's the nugget that I that I always fail to remember is that yeah, we have to some we have to basically request reimbursement, and that cash is still sitting with the feds.

7:33

Yeah, we we do have we control 1.6 million that is in that reserve, and that is for operating, but also for future capital, like the buses we're gonna buy next year, that's that money is gonna go towards that.

7:50

So we that 1.6 is in our control.

7:53

So, how much is left for us to draw?

7:55

Uh 2.8 million is left.

7:59

And that was as of the end of last year.

8:03

Um because we just this is the lovely part of our financial world, because the state just gave us our state percentage, we have to carry now has to race through and get all our financials up to date so we can give a more accurate number, but we can say most likely we're probably ballpark, we're probably at about right at the state, we're probably at about 2.32.4 million left.

8:30

Okay.

8:31

And so that that's over and above the million six that's on the balance sheet.

8:36

Okay, and can we earn interest on that million six, or do we have to worry about some violating some rule or arbitrage or anything like that?

8:43

I do believe that money goes to the city.

8:45

It's not it's not anything that we control that's more of Mr.

8:51

Ciro's okay.

8:53

It's in the city's pool.

8:54

Cool.

8:54

Yeah.

8:55

So I guess earning interest there.

8:57

Okay.

8:58

So the million six, that's money that we've pulled already from the CARES money.

9:05

So how can we sit on a million six if we haven't if we don't have a corresponding expense to go with it to to get re to tell the government we need to be reimbursed for that?

9:15

So so essentially what you do is you use your existing expenses each year to draw the CARES funds and and get reimbursed for those expenses, and then in lieu, you're saying because we've done that, our local share that would have covered those costs goes into the reserves where if you didn't have the CARES funds, the local share that had been budgeted would have to have paid those costs.

9:41

And if I don't and if transit doesn't take the local share, the state of Wisconsin takes it away from me because of ERP and lending and ERP and levy limits.

9:49

Correct.

9:50

Yep.

9:50

So that's the fun part of this is even though we're using carrier salars to offset operating costs, I still have to take the levy money or I lose it.

9:58

Right.

9:59

Okay.

10:00

That's not a question, it's more of a statement, Jody.

10:02

So that is the fun balancing, but it allows you to have this for the capital or other things once the CARES funds are gone.

10:11

Okay.

10:12

And it will it'll smooth out you know the future years, you know, where we're talking where it will allow us to smooth that out so we're not on a cliff, you know.

10:23

Okay.

10:24

And one more question, and then I'll yield to see if other folks have questions.

10:27

But with the COVID money, I know there were some deadlines as it relates to spending that.

10:31

Can you remind me, Jody, if do we have a deadline with this down with these dollars?

10:35

The only one that has a deadline for the transit ARPA dollars is uh is September 30th of 2029.

10:45

It's the end of the 29 fiscal year.

10:47

We can't I can't officially say, or we can't officially say we're done with our ARPA dollars, but we are most likely done with our ARPA dollars.

10:55

We'll be closing that grant sometime this year.

10:58

The other two grants that we have, the CARES and CARISA funds, there is no sunset, but the FTA has not warned us but has encouraged uh grantees to move that money along because the administration and Congress is looking at that.

11:15

And that's not surprising.

11:16

I mean, that's just doing their due diligence, you know.

11:20

So I'll Jody, thank you.

11:24

I'll I'll yield.

11:28

Any other questions?

11:32

Um I just uh thank you for your for your work.

11:36

I just have one question, and this might be just a matter of the way that uh things get reported, but it appears to me the the state subsidy and the federal subsidies have decreased slightly, and the city of Waukesha's subsidies gone up uh slightly.

11:58

Um are we seeing that as a trend where our portion of the operating costs or operating revenues are going to be uh continuing in that direction, or is this that that that is one of the reasons why we've done all the service changes that we have is to long-term put ourselves in a position that we can uh uh be uh in a financial situation that works for the city um and for the system.

12:25

Um I I don't know if you recall, but from 24 to 25, the combined state-federal um expense for operating went from 59.17% to 55.93 percent.

12:40

So three and a half or three and a quarter percent decrease, which I've been in this now for about 28 years.

12:48

I've never seen a decrease that significant in that short of time.

12:52

And we had another pretty decent decrease this year.

12:55

Um so yeah, that that is a concern.

12:58

Um it's not as much the federal as it is the state funding.

13:01

The state funding we're still at 2011 levels of state funding when you look at all not us, but like aggregate across the state for transit funding.

13:12

So that was my understanding.

13:16

I was just thank you for uh helping me see that yeah, we do need to, and I commend the transit for all their efforts to be efficient and lean and plan for these future future economic possibilities.

13:38

Sure.

13:38

One of my other favorite topics is OPEB.

13:40

And I see the fact that we're it appears based on, and again, I'm I read the note and I'm looking at the cash flow statement, but it looks like we're in a pretty good spot as it relates to OPEB.

13:50

And is that because we really only have one employee in the transit?

13:55

Okay.

13:56

All right.

13:57

Answering my own question.

13:58

Okay, thank you.

14:00

Never hurts to confirm things.

14:02

All right.

14:03

Any other questions?

14:05

Uh we don't need to take action on this, right?

14:07

It's just a matter of report.

14:09

Okay.

14:09

All right.

14:10

Well, then we can move to uh item 6A.

14:13

Jody, thank you.

14:14

Uh you have approval of the minutes from May 21st.

14:21

Piper, I'll make a motion to approve the minutes as presented.

14:24

Kevin Riley seconds.

14:26

All right.

14:26

We have a motion and a second.

14:28

Uh go ahead and take a vote.

14:29

O'Donnell, aye.

14:30

Kevin Riley, I.

14:31

Piper I.

14:32

Mick Let's A.

14:34

All right.

14:34

Motion passes.

14:35

We'll move to item 7A.

14:37

Uh item 7A is to review an act on proposed change order to our 2027 uh bus purchase from Gilly LLC.

14:46

Um last year or last fall, um, the council approved the purchase of three buses for with delivery in 2027.

14:56

The the lead time on buses is extending.

15:00

But we did have a small change order we're looking to, or we've proposed.

15:07

And this was after we have our pre-production meeting.

15:11

It's a meeting where we go in great detail.

15:13

It takes a couple of hours with the manufacturer going through every component of the bus.

15:19

And there were some things that were missing from our standard order that we would like to have just for consistency parts inventory consistency for the drivers, and that those type of items was about $1,300 difference from what they originally had quoted.

15:39

And then another thing that we are looking to add, and this is a safety feature is to have electronic assist added to the steering system.

15:48

One of the things that our drivers, our trainers, our supervisors have all said is that the gilling buses don't turn as well as our new flyer buses.

16:01

And so we asked about that.

16:04

And unfortunately, you can't just put a different steering wheel.

16:07

We have to get a different steering system.

16:09

And this was it's electronics assistance, it's used in a number of uh systems around the country.

16:17

It really improves steering.

16:19

Um it's a safety feature that if we can avoid one accident turning accident with this, it's probably well worth the money, or it is well worth the money because turning accidents tend to be the most expensive ones that we have and the most climactic for the parties involved.

16:39

Um so the total increase of to the uh to the bus cost would be just over 4500 per bus.

16:50

Um it's still well below what our CIP amount was.

16:54

Uh so the total would go up to 664, 752 per bus, and what we had in the CIP was 690.

17:03

Um I just was reading an article in one of our trade magazines that fixed route buses are typically now in the 700 to 800,000.

17:13

I that's diesel buses, so we're still pretty low, and this should be the final cost.

17:20

You know, there's no other adjustments to the cost.

17:23

So the total increase is a it's less than one percent of the total cost of the bus.

17:28

So we'd recommend approval I'll make a motion to approve that.

17:38

Kevin Riley seconds.

17:40

All right, any discussion.

17:43

That will take a vote.

17:44

O'Donnell, aye.

17:45

Kevin Riley, aye.

17:46

Piper I.

17:47

Mick Litz A.

17:48

All right.

17:48

Motion passes.

17:49

We'll move to item 7B.

17:50

Uh 7B is on hold.

17:52

Unfortunately, WISDOT has not gotten us the operating assistance contract.

17:56

So uh per the city city attorney, since we do not have the agreement, we cannot uh act on that one.

18:02

So all right.

18:03

So then we'll move to item 7C.

18:05

Uh 7C is approve uh review and act on the paratransit aid agreement with uh the state of Wisconsin uh Department of Transportation for 2026.

18:16

We do have this agreement, and this uh provides uh funding for our metro lift for our disabled riders.

18:24

And the good news with this um is that we got we received a slight increase of about five percent, just over four thousand dollars more than last year's uh so the total funding amount is ninety-one thousand uh two hundred and nine dollars.

18:40

Um and so we would just recommend approval.

18:47

I'll make a motion to approve.

18:48

Kevin Riley seconds.

18:51

All right, motion and second, any discussion.

18:54

Seeing none, we'll think of okay.

18:55

O'Donnell I Kevin Riley, aye.

18:57

Piper I.

18:58

Mick Litz Aye.

18:59

All right, motion passes.

19:00

We'll move to item eight.

19:02

Um eight A is um, and this is more of a courtesy for this uh commission.

19:08

We've talked a lot about uh update on our service levels and um uh sorry my screen just went bad.

19:17

Uh but uh the city administrator has asked that uh next at a future council meeting this summer that we present on the changes we made since the the council as a whole does not have as close of a view of the changes we made.

19:37

And so I'm just gonna quickly go over the service changes.

19:42

It's much it's very much like the update we provided in December, but I just wanted to uh go over it and we'll go in a little more depth when we give this uh presentation to the council.

19:53

But by all at all, as always, please ask questions if you have any.

20:00

Um just the first uh bit is we did have we did implement some changes come uh for June, uh June 15th on Monday, and they seem to be going well.

20:10

We do have some more changes for the weekend, um, but that they are going well, and then we had some additional changes, um uh minor reductions that will uh take effect in August and some other service changes.

20:22

So when the August, and they've already been approved by the council when the August changes uh take effect, um, the total weekly service hours in the city will have been reduced by about a third from 2020, so pre-COVID levels.

20:39

So we're dropping from in this uh table shows or this chart shows that we're dropping from just under 900 hours of service in within the city of Waukeshaw to just over 600 hours.

20:52

And um looking at this, uh kind of going through the archives.

20:56

This is the lowest level of service hours that we've had in the city since 1990.

21:02

It's about in a year annual basis about 31,000 hours, and that's about where we will be when these changes take effect.

21:11

Um, and also just want to point out actually the city administrator wanted us to point out that um the the city's contribution to transit uh financial contribution is the lowest since uh 2011.

21:24

That was part of our part of the financial management plan.

21:30

Um we've gone over several times we've gone over all the changes.

21:36

I I think one thing I'll just say is with all these or all these studies and initiatives that we've done for a system our size to do what we've done in the last five years.

21:46

This would take uh typically an aggressive 10 years, but we've done a lot in this time, and a lot of it though has to do with sewer pack's been a great partner with getting us these studies in a timely fashion.

22:03

Um then again, just kind of this on page two.

22:08

We just kind of go over the all the different changes.

22:12

Um, you know, just more highlighted uh some of the things.

22:16

But one thing I will point out, and it's related to capital, is because of the changes on the operating side.

22:22

The last item uh we're going starting next year when we replace those buses, we're getting three, we're getting rid of five.

22:30

Our plan is is to uh ask for three for twenty-eight and get rid of six.

22:36

So we're gonna reduce the fixed fleet um over a course of time by six buses, so that's over four million dollars less in uh fleet replacement costs over the next uh three or four years.

22:50

Um real positive thing, and one of the things we didn't want to just cut service just to cut service, we want to minimize the impact as much as possible on the passengers, but we did want to improve our ridership efficiency, and the ride rides per hour is uh our big measure of that, and as you can see from 22 to current, we've increased from just over you know six and a half to almost nine and a half, so it's about a 45 percent increase in our ridership efficiency.

23:25

So that's something that so more people on uh on fewer buses.

23:31

So and then the last thing, just kind of uh factoring in here is MetroLift.

23:38

Um it's on demand service, so it's not like we have a set amount, it's based on the demand, and as we have stated several times, we've seen uh a pretty strong growth out of COVID, and now we're above levels.

23:53

Actually, for 2026, we're probably gonna hit about 15,000 rides, which we haven't seen that since 2012.

24:02

And we had much more buses, much more, you know, we had many more buses out, and a total fleet of seven.

24:09

Right now, we're doing that with a total of four, but that's becoming more and more difficult for us to do.

24:16

So we are going to request an additional bus in order to meet that demand, but to do it with five instead of seven is uh is still pretty good.

24:24

But we've got software that helps us with that.

24:27

But that does the increased metro lift demand does increase the number of hours, uh driver hours related to that, and from 24 to 25, we've had an increase of basically a uh seven tenths of a full-time position, so basically a part-time position of 28 hours.

24:47

So that is a factor too that we're gonna have to um deal with uh financially as well.

24:54

So but that is and I'm sorry if I went too fast, but uh that is just a quick overview of the presentation we're gonna provide in the council next month.

25:07

Okay, thank you very much.

25:10

Anyone have anything else that we are adjourned?

25:14

Thank you.

25:15

Thanks, Brian.

25:15

Thank you very much, thank you.

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Summary of Proceedings

Waukesha Transit Commission Meeting - June 18, 2026

The Waukesha Transit Commission met on Thursday, June 18, 2026, to receive the 2025 financial audit, approve a change order for bus purchases, authorize a paratransit aid agreement, and review service level updates. The meeting was called to order with roll call of commissioners Chad O'Donnell, Kevin Riley, Joel Piper, and Eileen Nicholas. No public comments were offered.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of Minutes (May 21, 2026): Motion by Piper, seconded by Riley. Unanimously approved.

Discussion Items

  • 2025 Transit Financial Audit Presentation: Jody Dobson, principal at Baker Tilley, presented the audit results. The transit operations received an unmodified (clean) opinion. Financial highlights included stable operations, a slight decrease in total expenses in 2025 (driven by lower labor/benefits, materials, and purchase transportation due to Route 1 extension changes), and a reserve fund balance of just over $1.6 million at year-end. Discussion clarified that approximately $2.8 million in COVID-19 relief funds (CARES/ARPA) remained un-drawn and held by the federal government, with an estimated $2.3–2.4 million still available. The reserve fund is set aside from local levy contributions to smooth future operations and capital needs. Commissioners noted a decrease in combined state-federal operating funding from 59.17% in 2024 to 55.93% in 2025, attributed primarily to stagnant state funding at 2011 levels. The commission took no action on the report.
  • Proposed Change Order for 2027 Bus Purchase (Gilly LLC): Staff recommended adding electronic power steering assist and minor component consistency items to the three ordered buses, increasing the per-bus cost by approximately $4,500 (from ~$660,000 to $664,752), still under the CIP budget of $690,000. The change was described as a safety improvement to reduce turning accidents. Motion to approve by Riley, seconded by Riley. Unanimously approved.
  • Paratransit Aid Agreement (2026): A state contract for MetroLift funding of $91,209, a 5% increase (~$4,000) over the previous year. Motion to approve by Riley, seconded by Riley. Unanimously approved.
  • Update on Service Levels: Staff previewed a presentation planned for the Common Council. Key data: total weekly service hours in Waukesha will drop from just under 900 hours (pre-COVID, 2020) to just over 600 hours after August changes—the lowest level since 1990 (annualized ~31,000 hours). The city's financial contribution to transit is the lowest since 2011. Ridership efficiency (rides per hour) increased 45% from 2022 to current (from ~6.5 to ~9.5). MetroLift (on-demand paratransit) demand is projected to reach 15,000 rides in 2026 (highest since 2012), requiring an additional bus (total fleet of 5 instead of 7) and adding about 28 hours/week of driver time. The fixed-route fleet will be reduced by 6 buses over three years, saving over $4 million in replacement costs.

Key Outcomes

  • Election of Officers: Motion by Riley, seconded by Micklitz, to appoint Chad O'Donnell as chairperson and Kevin Riley as vice chair for the upcoming year. Unanimously approved.
  • Approval of Minutes (May 21, 2026): Approved unanimously.
  • Approval of Change Order for 2027 Bus Purchase: Approved unanimously.
  • Approval of Paratransit Aid Agreement (2026): Approved unanimously.
  • Item 7B (Operating Assistance Contract) on Hold: No action taken due to absence of signed agreement from WisDOT.
  • No further action taken on audit presentation or service level update.

Meeting Transcript

Yep, we're ready when you are we'll go ahead then and get started with the Board of Public Works uh meeting, or excuse me, transit commission meeting for uh Thursday, June 18th, 2026. We'll start with a roll call. Uh Chad O'Donnell? Kevin Riley. Joel Piper. Eileen Nicholas. All right. With that, we'll move to the Pledge of Allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one underall. Indivisible liberty and justice. All right. Anyone here for public comment? Seeing none, we'll move to election of officers. Kevin Riley makes a motion that Chad O'Donnell be chairperson for the next calendar year. Micklitz seconds. Alex, I believe we need to nominate a do we need to nominate a co-chair as well? A vice chair? Doing it all in one would be ideal. And then Kevin Riley also nominates himself as vice chair. And just for clarification, it wouldn't be the calendar year, it would be the I don't know, the all the manual year. All the Matic year. Yeah. Okay. I still second. All right, a motion and a second, any discussion. That will take a vote. O'Donnell, I. Kevin Riley, aye. Piper I. Miklitzai. All right. Motion passes. We'll move to item 5A. 5A, we have the presentation from uh Baker Tilley on the 2025 transit financial audit. Uh Jody Dobson, a principal at Baker Tilley, will be here is coming up to give that presentation. So I'll turn it over to Jody. Thank you very much for having me here tonight. Um you have in front of you a two-page um kind of summary of the audit process and results, and then there's also the full financial statements. So similar to prior years, our audit process starts in the fall with planning. Um we work with management to understand what may have changed during the year in processes or systems or contracts, et cetera, and use that to design how we want to complete our audit process. We use a number of different procedures to obtain audit evidence, whether that be confirmations, tracing things to supporting documentation, completing analytic procedures, testing controls, et cetera. Um, but ultimately we're able to issue our audit opinion on the financial statements for the transit operations. And they received what we call an unmodified or a clean opinion. So that's the highest level of assurance that we can give, and that says that the financial statements are fair presentation in all material respects of the of the financial position and the results of operations for the year. Um, because of the receipt of federal grant funding, the transit operations, their grants are typically part of that single audit that has to be completed, both for state and federal funding. So there we test both controls and compliance with the grant agreements, and there were no issues identified this year for the transit operations. So then if we go to the next page here, we've got just a couple financial highlights. Um, but really stable operations, as well as the mix of information or of sources is very stable year over year. Um then at the bottom we have the expenses, and here the expenses actually decreased a little bit in 2025. Um as we looked there, there was a small decrease in the overall labor and benefits as well as materials and supplies and purchase transportation, um, the purchase transportation related to some changes in the Route 1 extension.

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