0:03Call to order the what month are we in now?
0:09If this city clerk will please uh hold the members.
0:15All the roll, whatever.
0:17Chair person, council member Clark.
0:20Vice Chair, Mayor Per Tim Adams.
0:23Councilmember Scipio present.
0:25And Councilmember Taylor.
0:29Folks, we have a we have a very full agenda, so we will get going on it.
0:38We will start with a consent agenda.
0:40Are there any items anyone would want hold?
0:45I'll move for approval of the consent agenda.
0:48We have a motion and a second to approve the consent agenda.
0:51If I think we have to vote by voice.
0:54All in favor, please say aye.
0:59We will now go to the general agenda.
1:04Item G1, budget and financial update.
1:11I'm going to make an opening comment.
1:18Now there's been a lot in the news locally about financial responsibilities of local government organizations and what we should and should not do or should have done.
1:34Today we're going to do a number of items that I think fall under the category of our responsibilities to steward and to control what happens within within our purview.
1:49So we're going to start Mr.
1:50Tesh is actually going to give us a year-in budget review.
1:54And it's also going to go over some of the controls that are in place to be sure that we know what's going on and ask the right questions.
2:05Tesh, with that, if you please do your thing.
2:08Thank you, Chairman, Mayor, Mayor Putzem, members of the committee.
2:11You are exactly right, Councilmember Clark.
2:13This presentation has a few different aspects to it.
2:15We do have an FY25 year-end projection for where we may end, but at a higher level, we're going to talk a little bit just about the controls that are in place, budget and financial reviews that take place, both internal and external.
2:27And under the new strategic plan that you adopted, one of the areas is good government.
2:31And a part of that is our financial stewardship.
2:34And so the city manager has asked that in the future that we be uh begin bringing uh more regular quarterly updates on budget and financials.
2:40And so this is intended to set the stage and provide some public information for those that will continue to come in the future.
2:48So at a high level, a lot of what we do in budget and in finance that our chief uh uh financial officer oversees is prescribed in the local government budget and fiscal control act, and you can see the statutory references there.
3:00It is a very long, nearly 40 subsection series of of state law that talks about everything that we have to do with respect to budgeting, uh, investment of idle funds, disbursement, everything basically in budget and finance.
3:12I'm gonna pull out a few of those things uh and just excerpt them, and probably one that's that's most important as to Councilmember Clark you were speaking to.
3:19Uh we talk a lot about the the expenditure reviews that take place, and a lot of times you'll hear the term pre-audit uh when staff talks about it.
3:26The fiscal control act requires two pre-audits for every disbursement that goes out.
3:31One is when we obligate the funds.
3:33So if we come to you with a contract, uh you approve the contract, we make sure that the funding is there before the contract gets encumbered, and then we have to pre-audit it again before the check is written to make sure that uh the budget is still available there.
3:47So outside of that piece, there are lots of other controls, lots of other practices and processes.
3:53And again, I've got a bullet point, uh, a couple of bullet points here that are just excerpts of what we do.
3:58We have a significant amount of purchasing review to make sure that we are complying with state law in purchasing.
4:04Purchasing department also does a great job of catching uh whether budget is available for certain items early in the process.
4:10The financial system itself has controls built into it that we often call funds check, but we are making sure that departments do not overspend their allotments.
4:18There are system procedures in place outside of uh regular manual processes.
4:24Position control is probably the most important of these.
4:27Uh given in the general fund that 60 to 70 percent of your uh expenses are salaries and wages.
4:33The number of positions that we have that are authorized compared to the number of people that we are actually hiring is very important.
4:39So when we're looking at our salary savings adjustments, when we're looking at the amount of money that we budget for that, there is an allotment of positions, and there is a role both in human resources and in budget in making sure that we do not fill a position that was not authorized by the mayor and city council and the management team.
4:56And one of the other things I would hit on, and this is very important when we look at things like ARPA distributions.
5:00We have a process or a practice in place that we do not use one-time funding for multi-year issues.
5:07The ARPA money that came in that was in excess of 50 million dollars, the framework that was adopted used all of that for one-time purposes.
5:14Again, some of that was used for community agencies.
5:17They may come back and ask for money in the future, but we did not as an organization uh commit ourselves or obligate ourselves to spending money in the future that we only received one time in nature.
5:27So there are a lot of controls in place to make sure that we don't overspend budget and that we have the available cash in place.
5:35Will your system allow you to cut a check?
5:39If there's no money budgeted for it.
5:46So the answer to that question is yes, but it would take authorizations to do it.
5:51So the the funds check that I talked about in the finance system will automatically discontinue that purchase, and it would come back essentially usually to budget, and they would say there's no funds available.
6:02It may be that it's in the wrong line item, it's in the wrong cost center.
6:05And then if it was not available, I'd have to go to the city manager, depending on the size of it.
6:10So again, controls in place.
6:12Uh, in talking with the city manager, a couple of things that we wanted to mention in terms of internal and external reviews.
6:18So I did want to note we do have an internal audit division, has three folks in it.
6:22Uh we have an internal audit administrator, uh, Heather Smith, who is with us in the back.
6:26Uh she and her staff do uh an amazing job uh looking at all of the audit engagements that we have.
6:33A couple of notes up there.
6:34Most importantly, autonomous assurance and consulting internal division.
6:39That term autonomous is meant to be they have access to everything that every department does to review whether the controls are in place and that they are complying with state regulations, federal regulations, city policies.
6:51They are allowed to go almost anywhere and look at almost anything to make sure that we are in compliance with what we need to be.
6:57They do all kinds of financial audits, contract audits, uh, different types of evaluations.
7:03They usually do somewhere in the neighborhood of 14 to 17 evaluations per year.
7:08Uh but all of those are posted, and I wanted to say this, all of those are posted publicly too from a transparency perspective.
7:13You can go on the city's website, and every engagement that internal audit has, the official report from that is posted on our website so that you can see what we're complying with and essentially what we're working on.
7:24Um the rationale for those is to get better and to improve.
7:27We obviously have the annual external audit.
7:29Dan Gogerty from Cherry Beckert came a few months ago and presented the end uh or end of year FY24 audit.
7:35That happens every single year, and it includes a single audit for all of our grants as well.
7:39And aside from those, the external uh uh ratings agencies come and do reviews of us when we issue debt, and they uh do a very good job turning the organization's financials inside out, looking at all of our fund balances, looking at our ability to create revenue in the future.
7:53If we're issuing debt for 20 years, they're looking at the ability of the organization to pay that debt over the 20-year horizon uh that we would issue it for.
8:00So there are lots of internal and external reviews of our financials.
8:04Speaking more to what budget does, kind of what we're gonna come back with and talk about quarterly in the future.
8:10Um I'm gonna talk mostly about operating funds here that are that happen over the course of one year.
8:15Obviously, the general fund is the largest operating fund that we have.
8:18I'm gonna show you a general fund projection.
8:20We're gonna talk about the calendar for that.
8:22We do have several enterprise funds.
8:23So when you think stormwater, water and sewer, solid waste, parking, transit, those types of things, we are reviewing those as well.
8:29And then selected special revenue funds.
8:32Our special revenue funds, some of them operate on very long-term horizons with projects, some of them are annualized.
8:37Powell bill is a very good example of this.
8:39We have a fund that is for the street resurfacing money or Powell Bill maintenance money that comes in that's used predominantly for resurfacing.
8:45Uh that one is looked at on uh quarterly and annual basis because it's an annual fund.
8:51Is utilities under enterprise funds?
8:55It is, and we'll talk about it here on the second bullet point.
8:58I'm gonna be sure we watch them.
9:00From a general fund perspective, uh, the major revenue sources are looked at monthly and quarterly.
9:04Sales tax comes in every month.
9:06We are looking actively at sales tax every month.
9:08Uh the manager gets an update essentially every month.
9:11It is three months behind when the state gives uh us that compared to when you pay it.
9:15We do have other major quarterly revenues, uh, our electricity sales tax is one of those.
9:20Those are quarterly distributions, so we look at them on a quarterly basis.
9:23Property tax is the single largest revenue that we have in the general fund.
9:28Um, the bills go out in the August time frame.
9:31They're technically due in September, but they don't accrue interest until January.
9:34So a lot of times we receive very little in terms of property taxes, uh, particularly for real uh real estate in the first quarter and sometimes in the first two quarters.
9:43So we do review that quarterly, but we really start to see whether or not we've hit those numbers uh in the third quarter with some of the the statements that come from the county tax office as well.
9:53Uh and most recently in January, and you will start to get this at least once a year, you will see the general fund multi-year uh analysis.
10:00That's not something that we have been putting forward for a while, but it is a best practice from GFOA, and something we will be getting back to so that you can see the difference between revenue and expenditure uh production over time.
10:10Councilmember Clark, you were talking about enterprise funds.
10:13We do look at those on a quarterly basis.
10:14Uh I would note there that we have a utilities commission and uh Courtney is here.
10:19They also look very heavily at that, so there are a lot of eyes on our largest enterprise funds financials as well.
10:24Uh and we do our annual pro forma updates during budget season.
10:28You see several slides that show the expected cash balances of those funds over time.
10:33So those are updated annually to make sure that we are meeting the long-term needs of all of our enterprise funds.
10:38And again, the special revenue funds, the calendars for those are really based on when the revenues come in, when the expenditures go out, and whether they're single year or really managed at a multi-year level if they have large projects in them.
10:51So we're going to get to a projected year in for 25.
10:54Uh, again, a little further in the details.
10:56We look at the budget to actuals, so we are looking at whether we are under or overspending in those areas or whether we are under or over collecting from a revenue perspective.
11:05We look at the expenditures in multiple different ways.
11:07We look at it by department, we look at it by type.
11:10We have been doing several outstanding encumbrance reviews.
11:13So there have been more rollover purchase orders from year to year.
11:16This is something that budget and finance have been looking at, and I'll show you some of that as well.
11:20All of that again to look at what is the potential change in net position or what we often call the change in fund balance for the general fund unassigned fund balance.
11:28So a very quick look at 25 year end.
11:32Um we are still doing a lot of the year-end transactions.
11:35The statements have not been completed and audited at this point.
11:38So this comes with a caveat that that this is uh in draft format.
11:42The three bullet points over there are associated with the three things that are highlighted.
11:46The first is that uh total revenues exceeded budget by about 1.3 percent.
11:51That's a good thing.
11:52On the expenditure side, you can see that expenditures are well below the amended budget.
11:57So again, that's we had a lot of carryover encumbrances.
12:00What we've been seeing in a post-COVID world, there was a lot of stuff that we used to buy in April, May, and June that you could get delivered in a couple of weeks, and it would get expensed in the year that you um sent out the request.
12:11We're now sending out requisitions and they take six, eight, twelve, sixteen weeks, and so those expenditures are taking place uh in another year, and so we're we're having some of that carryover that we've not seen before.
12:22We are trying to limit that.
12:24Uh and again, also some of that is uh related to vehicles.
12:27We have budgeted for a lot of vehicles to be replaced.
12:29The timelines for those to be delivered are have also gotten a lot longer in the last couple of years.
12:33So the last thing I draw your attention to is the potential addition of about six and a half million dollars to unassigned fund balance in the general fund.
12:40That is a good thing on a more than 300 million dollar budget.
12:44You're talking about 2%, and we do want to grow it every year.
12:47Our policies dictate that we do have to grow that every year so that we keep up with the organic growth in the fund itself.
12:54I will hit behind the scenes, and it is not intended for somebody to zoom in and try and look at these.
13:00Outside of the regular review, there's a business analyst that we have in budget who has been taking financial system data and building Power BI dashboards and views from that.
13:09There is a lot of what I'm just gonna call regular work that takes place that doesn't generate a report to the city manager, doesn't generate a report to council, but where budget and or finance is actively reviewing the financials of the organization on a regular basis, daily or weekly in some cases, depending on what that is.
13:25So we do have a lot of other tools in place that you don't normally get to see.
13:28We don't talk about, but there is a lot of financial review that takes place to keep us in the position that we're in.
13:35That is all I have for you.
13:36I was trying to keep it to 10 or 12 minutes, knowing that we have a fully looted agenda, but I'm more than happy to take any questions that you have.
13:42Questions or comments.
13:46I'm assuming the rules that you listed apply not just to us but other government entities.
13:55The local government budget and fiscal control act does apply to all cities, counties, and local authorities, yes.
14:04I would make an editorial comment, but I'm not the piece.
14:15City clerk, please read that.
14:18Item G2, approval of economic development assistance for project touchdown pursuant to NCGS 158-7.1.
14:26Public hearing date, September 15th, 2025.
14:30Millett, you have the floor.
14:32Good afternoon, Chairman Clark Mayor joins Mayor Pro Tim Adams and members of council.
14:36Uh project Project Touchdown involves a 50-year-old company that's based in the United Kingdom.
14:42They manufacture laboratory and specialty chemicals serving various industries.
14:48They've identified the strong potential market in the United States and are looking to uh open a facility in the Southeast.
14:55In addition to an existing 20,000 square foot building in Winston-Salem, they're considering locations in South Carolina, Georgia, and Virginia.
15:04Project Touchdown is seeking financial assistance to reduce the costs associated with the facility, which would create 30 new jobs at an average salary of $59,217.
15:17Jobs would include laboratory technicians, chemical production, administration, and sales.
15:23Taxable capital investment is expected to exceed $5.6 million over the first five years.
15:31Staff recommends performance-based incentives of up to $57,016, which as usual does represent 50% of the net new property taxes expected to be generated by the project.
15:45Incentives are being considered by for Scythe County as well as the state of North Carolina.
15:51If approved at committee, the public hearing will be held on September 15th at the council meeting.
15:57And we do have staff from Greater Winston-Salem present in favor of the project.
16:04We have been briefed on this previously in closed session.
16:08Any uh comments, questions?
16:12We need to approve this.
16:14I'll move for approval of item G2.
16:17We have a motion second for item G2.
16:19If everyone will please vote when it comes up.
16:26Thank you very much.
16:28We will now go to G3, if the clerk will please read that.
16:34Item G3 resolution authorizing a lease renewal with the state of North Carolina for property located at 2022 South Liberty Street, located in South Ward.
16:47Rao introduce this, please.
16:49Good afternoon, Chairman Clark, Mayor joins Mayor Pro Tempore Adams, member of count members of council.
16:54In September 2022, Council approved a three-year lease with the state of North Carolina for the second floor of the former U.S.
17:03bankruptcy court building at an annual lease rate of $25,000 that currently is set to expire in February of next year.
17:13The state of North Carolina has requested a renewal of the of the lease under the same terms as the existing lease.
17:21So this would be another three-year lease with the state of North Carolina at an annual rate of $25,000 per year.
17:29They've not requested any renewal period within this proposed lease.
17:34They do currently occupy a little over 5,700 square feet of the second floor of the building, and it's primarily used by the state highway patrol.
17:46Any questions or comments?
17:51Can I get a motion to approve?
17:55We have a motion second to approve G3.
17:57If everyone please vote when it comes up.
18:04Thank you very much.
18:06We will now go to G4.
18:08The City Clerk will please read it.
18:10Item G4, request for a public hearing and consideration of approval of the issuance of bonds by public finance authority for the benefit of PRG, the grounds, LLC, and Wake Forest University.
18:21Public hearing date, September 15, 2025.
18:25Latham, you have the floor.
18:27Good afternoon, Chairman Clark.
18:28Mayor joins Mayor Pro Tim Adams, the members of City Council.
18:32The grounds is seeking financing not to exceed $80 million for a capital project that will be occupied by Wake Forest University.
18:40Section 147 of the IRS Code actually requires that City Council hold a public hearing and approve this because they are asking to issue tax exempt debt.
18:50This does not obligate the city in any way for payment.
18:54It's not a pledge of the city.
19:06Yeah, if it's whoever from Wake would like to speak or speak, please come up.
19:17Sir, if you'll please give your name and address for the record.
19:21I'm with Parker Poe Adams and Bernstein in Charlotte, North Carolina.
19:24We're serving as bond counsel for uh for this financing.
19:28Again, as uh as she said, this is just a formality to allow uh Provident Resources Group, PRG, which is assisting Wake Forest University in financing and construction, uh constructing uh this office building that's going to be used by Wake Forest University.
19:45Um they're seeking to take advantage of issuing tax-exempt bonds to lower the cost of that financing, which will ultimately accrue to a lower cost for Wake Forest to occupy the building.
20:00Uh I'm joined here by Jamie Boyd with Provident Resources Group, PRG, the grounds, and Brandon Gilland with Wake Forest University.
20:05So I think Jamie's going to tell you a little bit about Provident if you're interested in that.
20:11You give your name and address the question.
20:14I'm General Counsel at Provident Resources Group.
20:17We are a large nonprofit corporation with projects in over 26 states.
20:23We have headquarters in Raleigh, North Carolina, and Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
20:28And what we do is we help educational and health care institutions finance their non-core projects.
20:37So rather than an academic building, an office building of this nature where Wake Forest can house departments such as its human resources, IT, and other non-core academic type departments.
20:56A little bit about us.
20:57We were organized in 1999.
21:00We've been doing projects of this nature for 25 years.
21:05We have projects at UT Knoxville, NCCU, William and Mary, Howard University.
21:15We have a proton cancer treatment center with Emory University.
21:24But let me tell you a little bit about this project.
21:27So it's 130,000 square foot office building to house approximately 300 personnel of the university.
21:39And it is part of the larger grounds project.
21:46But this is a separate piece, the only piece that can be financed with tax exempt bonds because of the educational nature of the occupancy of the building.
21:58Can I answer any questions?
22:00It is my understanding that it is actually your company that issues the bonds.
22:14That's the public finance authorities role, but we borrow the bond, the proceeds of the bonds.
22:21So all within the internal revenue code sections as the city's own debt, but this is a subset because charitable organizations are also allowed to access tax exempt bond financing.
22:37Any questions for the chair?
22:39Mayor, I think we just need to be really clear.
22:42The uh headlines in our local newspaper was sort of unfortunate, created uh uh image that the city is actually going to be involved in another 80 million financing for this project.
22:53We need to be clear.
22:54There's no city dollars in this.
22:56There's no obligation of the city to repay the bonds.
22:59There's no endorsement of the project.
23:01It simply meets the requirement of the IRS code to allow the taxes at financing.
23:06So I'll be clear on that, I think, Mr.
23:08Chairman, and reiterate that every chance we get.
23:12The um repayment of these bonds is solely upon Provident the Grounds LLC, not a debt of the city, no obligation of the city.
23:24And we will hold a public hearing at the council meeting next Monday, which is September the 15th.
23:31Thank you for your time.
23:35Oh, her, but the the staff.
23:36Staff, we have qu uh not for you for staff.
23:41Maybe you can ask either Ms.
23:43You know, a lot of the times our citizens think that when we do these things, as council member Clark said last week, we do them haphazardly.
23:52We do not, and most of you all know that.
23:55But what I'm asking for is because this goes to uh helping to educate the public.
24:02This is not the first time or the only time we have done what we're doing here uh today.
24:08Uh I would ask you uh if you can recall any agencies or uh community partners uh locally that we have done the same for over the course of time.
24:20Um in 2023, we approved uh very something exactly the same for Salem College, and we've also approved two different items for the housing authority of Winston Salem.
24:34Uh any other speakers.
24:37I think we'll cover there.
24:39Any other questions?
24:41If not, can I get a uh motion to approve?
24:43Motion to approve item G4.
24:46We have a motion and a second.
24:53And that is approved.
24:54And we we will again our general session of the council is next week.
25:00The mayor chairs that meeting, and we will have a public hearing then.
25:03I would recommend that y'all be back just in case you never know.
25:10We will now go to G five if you see your clerk, please read that one.
25:13T 5 resolution directing the application to the local government commission for approval of the city's water and sewer system revenue bonds series 2025, requesting local government commission approval of the 2025 bonds, declaring the intent of the city to reimburse itself for capital expenditures from proceeds thereof in certain related matters.
25:36Now, as an introduction, we are issuing these bonds.
25:41They are revenue bonds.
25:43Latham is going to tell us about them in a minute.
25:46And we essentially pledge uh the revenue, and these are being used by the uh utilities commission, so this would be water fees and sewer fees and landfill fees wherever it's going.
25:56But if you will please tell us about it.
25:59Yes, um, absolutely.
26:00So this resolution is the initial resolution for the bonds, which would allow staff to move forward with submitting an application to the local government commission who would have to approve this debt.
26:11Um this also just allows us to move forward with the other steps in the process, such as our financial advisors, our bond attorneys, um, and such as that.
26:20Um we are asking um for an amount not to exceed 70 million dollars.
26:25Um this would be approved as the initial resolution on the 15th, with um the council adopting the actual formal bond order on October the 6th.
26:39Who would like to explain what the local government commission I used to be on it?
26:44Mayor used to be one of them, Mayor.
26:46I want you tell the audience what the what it is.
26:48Well, it's it's a group that's appointed by the uh the governor and the members of the General Assembly that reviews all the financing that local governments and other jurisdictions in the state to issue.
26:59Um the treasurer of the state of North Carolina is the staff to that and is actually the chairman of it.
27:05And so it just simply is uh is another fail safe to make sure the local governments are adhering to the various financing uh requirements.
27:13So it's another check.
27:15They do look closely at our projected revenues, and we actually are um required to have a um a feasibility study.
27:23Um so that is currently underway as well to show the LGC that we can actually support the payback of the debt.
27:30Okay, thank you very much.
27:32Any other questions or comments?
27:35Um yes, I think it would be great if we could have a list of potential projects that the 70 million dollars is to pay for.
27:43Um that should be in your package.
27:44I was gonna ask if it's not, we can oh it's here.
27:50So that'll come machine answered exhibit B.
28:02So, yes, I think there was an exhibit in your packet, but it includes several projects.
28:06There's um Heart Collection System Improvement Program, the pre Peters Creek Outfall, um, Tanglewood Force Main replacement.
28:14There's two water district uh distribution system improvement projects, um uh 15th Street pump station upgrade, um, repairs to the lagoons at the Elledge Wastewater Treatment Plant, uh, repairs to our biosolids drying facility, and then uh modernization project at Nielsen Water Treatment Plant, and then our AMR uh project, which is the I made it automated meters that we're putting in.
28:39And the biosolids driver facilities that the facility had the fire.
28:44This is to get it fixed back up.
28:49Um yes, I had another question with that.
28:52Um so it seems like we'll get the funds on December the third.
28:58Uh these are a lot of projects.
29:00What's our expected time to start and complete?
29:04Uh and when do we start paying back the 70 million dollars?
29:10You want to speak to that that piece first?
29:12Um, so we would have a payment due on the bonds within six months, the first payment.
29:17Um this was part of the budget that was discussed with the commission and with council.
29:24So we do have budget for the bonds, however, we are issuing about three months earlier than we initially planned.
29:29So we'll need to review the budget and potentially come back to you with an adjustment.
29:34But um the goal with the bonds is always to spend the money within the three years.
29:39Um we also are required by the LGC to have um 70 percent of bids in hand when we go out to borrow funds.
29:47So some of these projects are actually already underway, and we'll we will be reimbursing ourselves to some degree for expenditures that have already occurred.
29:55Um, but I can let Courtney speak to if you have questions about specific projects and and where they are and how long they'll take.
30:04I I have a question.
30:11Uh this project versus the project prior to what we voted on.
30:17Uh could you explain to the public are they any way that we are as the mayor said with the commission uh overstepping our abilities to fulfill our debt by issuing two bonds at the same time?
30:35Um you're speaking to the bonds that we just closed on recently, the lobs or the following item that is an additional lobs for solid waste.
30:45The one where was it?
30:48The next one is also are you talking about the item that just came before us?
30:5370 million plus this 26 million.
30:55So the 70 million doesn't involve the city at all, other than just um a clarification in the IRS code.
31:01Um as you all mentioned, there's no obligation on the city, and this wouldn't be taken into consideration at all by the LGC, since that's not city debt or city responsibility to to repay.
31:17Latham, just out of curiosity, the feasibility study that you mentioned, what firm did we select to conduct that feasibility study?
31:23I didn't see it in notes.
31:28And you need a motion on the floor, Mr.
31:30I move for approval.
31:34Mississippi, if everyone will please vote when it comes up.
31:42We will now move on to G6.
31:46If the clerk will please read that.
31:47Kelly, you might as well just stay there.
31:49Item G6, resolution of the City of Winston Salem, North Carolina, approving an amendment to an installment purchase contract with the North Carolina Municipal Leasing Corporation to finance certain facilities and capital assets, declaring the city's intent to reimburse itself for capital expenditures from proceeds thereof and related matters.
32:13So this is actually limited obligation bonds.
32:16So council member Clark, you mentioned that the water and sewer bonds we're pledging are revenues for the utility.
32:32However, we are um we have a financial model where we are paying these bonds out of the solid waste fund.
32:40So we're not pledging the revenues, but we are using the solid waste revenues to pay the debt.
32:45It's just a it's just what the requirement is on the city, whether it's the requirement for the revenues to be a certain level or the requirement is the collateral of the buildings in this case.
32:55Um the North Carolina Municipal Leasing Corporation is is just required by statutes to be able to issue these types of lobs.
33:03So that is just essentially part of the city.
33:05So the city would be issuing limited obligation bonds not to exceed $26,550,000 for the solid waste improvements.
33:14There is a list of projects in your packet.
33:17Um this again is just the initial resolution to allow us to get started.
33:21Um this one does require a public hearing.
33:24So um, and that's just a difference in the the bond law where a public hearing is required for lobs but not for revenue bonds.
33:32But um on the 15th, the initial resolution would be approved, and then there would be a public hearing on the sixth, at which time the formal approval would be we would seek that formal approval from city council at that time to move forward.
33:47Driver, could you comment?
33:49This is the Byrne project, which is uh I think of an interesting project uh creative, I believe.
33:56You could just comment what it is so people be aware of it.
33:59Yes, so there's there's there's three projects that are included here.
34:02It is the Burm um project at the landfill at Haynes Mill Road Landfill, also a gas system expansion at Haynes, and then the expansion of um cell six also at Haynes.
34:14So the Byrne project and the um cell six construction are increasing the capacity at the landfill.
34:20Um they're giving us it's already been permitted, but it gives us more um capacity to fill.
34:25And then the gas system is just a per part of the process where we have to uh manage the gas in in the landfill operations.
34:33It would capture that gas and actually make electricity.
34:38Okay, any other questions, comments?
34:40Not can I get a motion on G6?
34:46Motion second on G6.
34:48If our body please vote when it comes up.
35:00Mayor I'll turn these over to you for the September 15th meeting if you can steward those through for us anything else to bring before the group if not we are adjourned thank you