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Albuquerque City Council Meeting - November 18, 2024

City CouncilMonday, November 18, 2024
BodyAlbuquerque, New Mexico
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, November 18, 2024
StatusFILED
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0:07

All right, everybody.

0:10

The 20th meeting of the 26th council will come to order.

0:13

All counselors are present this evening.

0:16

We'll go ahead and have a moment of silence and then followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.

1:03

Civic Plaza parking passes are provided for members of the public.

1:07

You can obtain a parking pass from council staff at the table near the chamber's entrance.

1:12

Members of the public city staff and the media have the ability to view this meeting in person and on live streams through four different platforms of TV on Comcast Channel 16, the Gov TV website, YouTube, and Zoom webinar.

1:29

The live streams can be accessed from most smartphones, tablets, or computers.

1:34

Also, this meeting is closed caption.

1:36

You may enable the closed captioning services on your television or device at this time.

1:42

The video recording of this and all past council meetings will remain available for viewing at any time on the city council's website.

1:50

Council staff is available via telephone if members of the public need assistance finding the videos online.

1:56

Please call 505 768 3100 for assistance during business hours, Monday through Friday from 8 to 5.

2:04

The council will take a break at approximately 7 p.m.

2:07

this evening with regard to decorum in the chambers.

2:11

We want tonight's proceedings to be as civil and respectful if as possible.

2:15

Please do not make any personal attacks and please no applause or other outbursts during the meeting.

2:21

The meeting will go a lot smoother if we are all respectful of one another.

2:25

Mr.

2:26

President.

2:31

All right, we're gonna go right to item four, which is our admin QA council and questions for the illustration.

2:35

Council people.

2:37

Thank you, Mr.

2:37

President.

2:38

I have some questions for the administration.

2:40

I have been talking to Pat Matoya, but I'm a I believe somebody from General Services Division is going to be here to answer them.

2:46

So the questions resolve around or revolve around the fact that on November 8th, I was in my office on the ninth floor.

2:55

I rearranged my office so that I could look out over the building next to me and watch the pigeons.

3:00

Um really nice place to sit and do your work.

3:05

And I was kind of appalled to look out over the building next to us, which is a city-owned building, and see a trap with several live pigeons in it.

3:15

Um we immediately called uh Pat Montoya, asked what was going on.

3:21

It was in the middle of a snowstorm.

3:23

He said, I don't know, but we will release the pigeons and we'll get you more information.

3:27

It's the 18th, and I haven't gotten more information.

3:31

So I'd like to know first of all, why was there a trap full of live birds on a city property on November 8th?

3:39

Uh Council President uh Lewis Councillor Hubercorn.

3:43

Um the trap was uh on old city hall to uh as a preventative measure to comply with the city ordinance for uh removal of or or the prevention of uh pigeons collecting on city properties.

3:58

And what would have happened to those birds if we had not let them go?

4:02

Sorry, not let them go.

4:04

I'm I was told by um Pat Montoya, the COO that the cage the cage was opened and they were let go.

4:13

Okay later that day.

4:14

Yes.

4:15

Were they?

4:16

In the case of those pigeons, I can't speak to whether they were let go or not, but um for the most part the pigeons that are caught in the cages are uh disposed of humanely.

4:25

They're what?

4:26

Disposed of humanely.

4:27

What does that mean?

4:29

Um that means that they are disposed of humanely.

4:32

They are killed, they're killed.

4:34

And what's the point of killing wildlife on city property?

4:39

So the again to comply with the ordinance.

4:42

The the risk that the pigeons present to the general public by way of just their overall presence and the the people matter that they drop around the city facilities creates uh uh a couple of problems.

4:55

One, we're having to invest approximately 45,000 a year for just pigeon waste cleanup around City Hall.

5:01

That's just the city hall facility.

5:03

And then there's the inherent risk of anybody who's going to be exposed to pigeon droppings.

5:09

So we we spend um a tremendous amount of time to try to keep the general public safe when it comes to coexisting with pigeons.

5:18

And so what we've done initially is we've we put a device up on city hall in an effort to move the pigeons.

5:26

However, that device can't cover everything.

5:28

So the pigeon trapping is a is our method of augmenting uh the pigeons, right, to try to try to reduce the population again and to to comply with the the city ordinance.

5:40

So we kill pigeons to increase our ability to coexist with pigeons.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Engagement██████████████████████████26%
Procedural██████████████14%
Substance Abuse Prevention███████████11%
Public Safety███████7%
Land Use Planning███████7%
Budget Equity Analysis████4%
Community Engagement████4%
Homelessness████4%
Public Health Awareness████4%
Summary of Proceedings

Albuquerque City Council Meeting - November 18, 2024

The 20th meeting of the 26th City Council was called to order at 5:00 PM with all nine councilors present. The meeting included administrative question-and-answer periods, public comments, consent agenda approvals, and multiple final actions on ordinances and resolutions. The meeting adjourned at 9:48 PM.

Consent Calendar

  • Approved unanimously (9-0): EC-24-215 (S.A.N.E. Collaborative contract), EC-24-216 (DVRC INC contract), EC-24-221 (CLNKids amendment).
  • Five appeals (AC-24-20 through AC-24-24) related to The Pearl Addition site plan were withdrawn by the applicant and approved 9-0.
  • EC-24-248 (appointment of Caren M. Phillips) and EC-24-249 (appointment of Kat Bloom) to the Small Business Regulatory Committee were postponed to December 2, 2024 on a 5-4 vote after discussion about geographic imbalance in appointments.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Lisa Christofferson criticized the consent agenda process and questioned a $680,000 APD training contract, urging funds be directed to direct-service nonprofits.
  • Anami Das announced upcoming MHRAC and Human Rights Board meetings.
  • Marcelyn Costner and subsequent speakers advocated for the unhoused community, calling for hotel vouchers, sanctioned outdoor areas, and an end to encampment sweeps.
  • James Freeman spoke against the city’s encampment policy, stating it is reactionary to Coronado Park and fails to address root causes.
  • Diego Lopez (Health Equity Council) presented policy one-pagers on xylazine, parental stress, and maternal mortality.
  • Kai Tecumseh (Albuquerque Indian Center) thanked the mayor and invited councilors to the annual Thanksgiving meal.
  • Natalie Vargas expressed concern about encampments near schools and children’s safety in District 6.
  • Several residents raised infrastructure issues on the West Side and city-county boundary areas.

Discussion Items

  • Pigeon Trapping (Admin Q&A): Councilor Fiebelkorn questioned the city’s pigeon trapping program. Administration confirmed four active trap sites, that pigeons are lured with food and killed “humanely,” and that the city spends approximately $45,000 annually on pigeon waste cleanup at City Hall. The traps were removed on Thursday following concerns.
  • Housing Voucher Payments (Admin Q&A): Councilor Grout followed up on advance payments to the Supportive Housing Coalition. Administration acknowledged a prior waiver but stated no waiver request has been submitted this year. The contract currently requires reimbursement. Grout also reported on a review of voucher tracking systems (Qualtrics, Roofs, United’s).
  • Homewise Contract (Admin Q&A): Councilor Rogers questioned why only $1.3 million of a $3 million 2021 contract for home rehabilitation had been spent, and why no participants from Black or Native American communities had been served. Administration promised to investigate.
  • First Responder Drop-Off (Admin Q&A): Councilor Bassan asked about the 24-hour drop-off at Gateway. Administration reported that since June, over 250 individuals have been dropped off during graveyard hours (8 PM–8 AM), with referrals from APD, ACS, and others. The contract with UNM is in place and an extension is being finalized.
  • Business Licensing (O-60 Introduction): Councilor Bassan moved to suspend rules to introduce O-60 (repealing business registration and creating a licensing program with increased fees). Director Alan Varela explained the need for a licensing system to regulate businesses. Councilors Lewis and Sanchez opposed the fee increase; the motion passed 8-1.
  • Endeavors Contract (EC-24-242): A $1.8 million contract for recovery-focused shelter services using opioid settlement funds sparked extensive debate. Concerns included the provider’s lack of stated substance abuse expertise, contract language on Medicaid billing, and alignment with the council’s prior legislation requiring a formal opioid treatment contract. A motion to postpone to December 2 passed 7-2.
  • Boundary Area Advisory Committee (O-24-49): The ordinance creating a committee to address city-county boundary service issues was debated. Amendments to restrict to District 3 (failed), to allow land swap recommendations (passed), and to clarify advisory role (passed). The bill then passed as amended 8-1.
  • Admin Q&A Written Responses (O-24-50): Councilor Sanchez’s ordinance requiring administration to provide written responses to council questions within 10 business days was amended to require 7-day responses for pre-submitted questions and to limit written responses to factual requests. Passed as amended 7-2.
  • Social Media Policy (R-24-89): Councilor Grout’s resolution directing administration to develop a policy on appropriate use of official city social media accounts passed 8-1 after being briefly tabled. Multiple councilors referenced incidents involving a city PIO and called for broader accountability.
  • Tourism Marketing District (R-24-90): Approved unanimously, authorizing the FY2025 budget for the Albuquerque Tourism Marketing District.

Key Outcomes

  • Passed (8-1): O-24-41 (Uniform Administrative Code fee adjustments and clarifications).
  • Passed (8-0): O-24-47 (LEDA plan amendment).
  • Passed as Amended (8-1): O-24-49 (Boundary Area Advisory Committee).
  • Passed as Amended (7-2): O-24-50 (Written responses to Admin Q&A).
  • Passed Unanimously (9-0): O-24-53 (Intergovernmental Relations ordinance).
  • Postponed to Dec 2: R-24-99 (Legislative agenda).
  • Passed (8-1): R-24-89 (Social media policy).
  • Passed Unanimously (9-0): R-24-90 (Tourism Marketing District budget).
  • Postponed to Dec 2: EC-24-242 (Endeavors contract) on a 7-2 vote.
  • Postponed to Dec 2: EC-24-248 and EC-24-249 (Small Business Regulatory Committee appointments) on 5-4 votes.

Meeting Transcript

All right, everybody. The 20th meeting of the 26th council will come to order. All counselors are present this evening. We'll go ahead and have a moment of silence and then followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. Civic Plaza parking passes are provided for members of the public. You can obtain a parking pass from council staff at the table near the chamber's entrance. Members of the public city staff and the media have the ability to view this meeting in person and on live streams through four different platforms of TV on Comcast Channel 16, the Gov TV website, YouTube, and Zoom webinar. The live streams can be accessed from most smartphones, tablets, or computers. Also, this meeting is closed caption. You may enable the closed captioning services on your television or device at this time. The video recording of this and all past council meetings will remain available for viewing at any time on the city council's website. Council staff is available via telephone if members of the public need assistance finding the videos online. Please call 505 768 3100 for assistance during business hours, Monday through Friday from 8 to 5. The council will take a break at approximately 7 p.m. this evening with regard to decorum in the chambers. We want tonight's proceedings to be as civil and respectful if as possible. Please do not make any personal attacks and please no applause or other outbursts during the meeting. The meeting will go a lot smoother if we are all respectful of one another. Mr. President. All right, we're gonna go right to item four, which is our admin QA council and questions for the illustration. Council people. Thank you, Mr. President. I have some questions for the administration. I have been talking to Pat Matoya, but I'm a I believe somebody from General Services Division is going to be here to answer them. So the questions resolve around or revolve around the fact that on November 8th, I was in my office on the ninth floor. I rearranged my office so that I could look out over the building next to me and watch the pigeons. Um really nice place to sit and do your work. And I was kind of appalled to look out over the building next to us, which is a city-owned building, and see a trap with several live pigeons in it. Um we immediately called uh Pat Montoya, asked what was going on. It was in the middle of a snowstorm. He said, I don't know, but we will release the pigeons and we'll get you more information. It's the 18th, and I haven't gotten more information. So I'd like to know first of all, why was there a trap full of live birds on a city property on November 8th? Uh Council President uh Lewis Councillor Hubercorn. Um the trap was uh on old city hall to uh as a preventative measure to comply with the city ordinance for uh removal of or or the prevention of uh pigeons collecting on city properties. And what would have happened to those birds if we had not let them go? Sorry, not let them go. I'm I was told by um Pat Montoya, the COO that the cage the cage was opened and they were let go. Okay later that day. Yes. Were they? In the case of those pigeons, I can't speak to whether they were let go or not, but um for the most part the pigeons that are caught in the cages are uh disposed of humanely. They're what? Disposed of humanely. What does that mean? Um that means that they are disposed of humanely. They are killed, they're killed. And what's the point of killing wildlife on city property?

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