Hello, everybody, and welcome.

We're gonna give um folks a few more minutes to get into the Zoom before we get started.

But we are looking forward to our conversation with you today.

So in the meantime, um feel free to hang tight and dream of framework plans while we are while we are waiting.

All right, a slew of folks just joined us.

Welcome.

Um we're gonna wait just a little bit longer for more um folks to join us.

Um thanks in advance for your patience.

We should be getting started shortly.

All right, I think we can go ahead and get started.

So I will turn it over to uh Carrie Beach to kick us off.

Thank you.

Oh, well, good evening, everyone.

Thank you so much for joining.

Uh welcome.

My name is Carrie Beach.

I'm the division chief for neighborhood planning and community development.

And we are so pleased you've decided to spend a little time with us this evening on this beautiful night.

Um this is our fifth meeting in the Duke Street land use planning process.

And um, this has been uh a process of uh building all the elements of this plan together, and we're excited to um take this uh step with you tonight on the framework plan.

Uh before we jump into it, I want to go over a couple of quick housekeeping items.

Um the first one is that we do we are offering interpretation, live interpretation for the meeting.

We have an MHARIC and a Spanish interpreter.

And so I would like to ask them to introduce themselves and make sure people know that the resource is available.

Great.

Thank you very much.

Um really quickly, I'm just gonna stop screen sharing because I can't find the interpreter control when I'm not when I'm in the thing.

And now I'm going to turn interpretation on.

Okay, there we go.

All right.

Thanks, Christian.

Um, I just also want to mention that we will be recording the meeting, and so it will be posted afterwards for anyone to refer to on our website.

Um, if you want to go to our agenda.

The first few items on the agenda are really just a brief recap of where we've been and what we've accomplished so far in the process with the community.

Then we're going to launch into an intro of the draft framework elements of the plan.

And everything you're going to see tonight is in the framework plan really has been building on the steps that we've worked on together over the course of this process and the community feedback you've provided along the way.

So hopefully you are going to see your voice and your comments and various different elements of the framework plan that you see tonight, whether it's related to land use or building heights or mobility or parks and open space.

After that, we're going to talk a little bit about the different opportunities to engage and provide feedback on this framework plan.

We'll have a wide variety of options as usual, everything ranging from commenting in our engagement hub online to visiting us at a pop-up in the corridor or having us attend one of your organizational meetings.

We're always happy to do that and get those invitations.

So please don't hesitate.

Then we'll go over next steps in the process and how we're going to continue collaborating on the remaining plan elements.

And then we'll wrap up with questions.

And all of those questions and answered answers will then be posted on the project web page after the meeting.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I yeah, sorry, next slide is you, Christian.

You go ahead.

Great.

Apologies.

Managing some other some interpretation stuff.

Okay.

So this is something that should look familiar to everybody who's been to one of our meetings before.

I'm sure you've seen this at the beginning of every presentation that we've given.

But just to make sure that we are all starting off with the same understanding of where we are talking about, this is generally speaking the part of Duke Street that we are looking at.

We'll obviously in the framework plan go into a lot more detail than just this, but to get us started, we're looking at Duke Street as it extends from the Alexandria Union Station all the way over to the intersection with Van Dorn Street.

Once we get into the framework plans, you'll sort of get to see a little bit of the extent of the plan.

But this is just, you know, if you're wondering what are we talking about here, this is this is what we're talking about.

All right.

We started doing some background research and background community engagement work in phase zero, which was really in December 2024.

Um and then we launched the plan process in June 2026, um, where we had a community poll, pop-ups, um, community two different community meetings.

And since then, we've sort of continued to have community meetings at a pretty pretty regular clip.

Um we produced the draft guiding principles, which you will see some of again today.

Um, the draft land use themes, which again um we'll sort of we have a slide um showcasing those as well.

Uh we went through a community idea evaluation process, which I'll talk a little bit on the about on the next slide.

Um, and then we have some corridor districts.

Where we are now is phase three, the sort of end of phase three, beginning of phase four.

Um today we're talking about the draft framework plan, but um in the next couple of months we'll be releasing draft recommendations and then ultimately the draft plan that will continue to have community meetings and pop-ups, which I'll talk about at the end of the presentation.

Um to get us kind of through some of that, in addition to those community meetings and pop-ups, we'll also be wrapping up some technical analyses and we'll be hosting two additional community meetings in May and June.

Uh the dates of those are on one of our um final slides, and those will focus on some subtopics within the um plan and including health, housing, mobility, sustainability, and open space.

So to date, we have talked to uh 250 businesses.

Um we've had 46 pop-ups since April 2025.

Um, more planned for May and the very, very end of this month.

Um we've had this is our fifth community meeting.

We've also had one open house, and we've had four community workshops, one of which was just for business owners.

Um as part of that community idea evaluation process, you can see um some community ideas on the pictures on the slide.

We collected more than 250 community ideas, and of those that we collected, 75% have we were able to include in the plan.

Um we've talked to over uh 3,500 residents, sort of in one way or another throughout this process so far.

Um this slide it's very text heavy, so I'm not gonna sort of read through some of this, but we really wanted to summarize some of the high level um topic pieces of feedback that we've gotten.

Umsurprisingly, um, folks who live or work along the corridor or own a business here, have um very similar experiences and have provided feedback that we can sort of see connections between.

Um so I'm just gonna pick out a few uh interest in having an expanded open space network, interest in having safer connections for all types of road users, um, supporting local businesses along the corridor, um, and then having more housing affordability and more housing supply.

All right, I'm gonna turn um this over to my colleague Amanda.

Hello, good evening, everybody.

Um if you were present at any of our previous community meetings, this should look pretty familiar to you, but just to recap, these themes were our way to begin organizing and thinking about how we're going to approach this plan.

So in creating these themes, we identified areas of opportunity for future redevelopment.

Those are the areas in blue.

Areas for affordability and growth, those are the areas in orange.

Um areas for small business attraction and retention, those would be the areas in red, and areas for civic and city uses.

That is the pink areas, and there are some areas where we have combined the civic and opportunity theme, and those are shown in yellow.

Next slide, please.

So as we move up and down the Duke Street corridor, how can we make more places where people want to linger?

And how can we build upon the great neighborhoods that we have along the corridor today?

So similar to the themes, the districts are another organizing principle, and they provide a structure that we anticipate will be a key element of the plan.

Next slide.

All right, so I can introduce this slide, and then I'm gonna turn it over to our um deputy director of planning and zoning, Jeff, to or sorry, we'll start with Jose Del Ced, call colleague Jose Del Cid, who will get us started on the framework plan.

So mostly this slide is really here to just signal to all of you that we're about to get into the nitty-gritty details.

Um the framework plan elements, like we mentioned up top, include land uses, building heights, mobility, parks, and open space, and we're gonna go through them in that order.

So we're gonna start with land uses.

I think it's important to remember that these framework plan elements are really based on um a sort of pyramid of community engagement and feedback that we've gotten since the very beginning of the plan.

Um you can trace these plan elements all the way back to the very first community poll that we released, but they include all of that feedback, all the feedback that we got from uh from the pop-ups that we did from the workshops, from the open house, the um they reflect the um draft guiding principles, which are also based on feedback.

They reflect both of the um maps that Amanda just talked about, which were also based on community feedback.

So, like Carrie mentioned at the beginning, we are really um hoping that you'll be able to see um the feedback that you left sort of reflected on this on these framework plan um plan elements.

So without further ado, I'm gonna turn it over to Jose to get us started.

Good evening, everyone, and thank you, Christian, and thank you for that reminder about um sharing with the community the everything that we're sharing with the with the framework plan, is kind of uh uh the build up of all the all the work that we've done with community.

Especially I think having this slide with the guiding principles.

We hope you'll see that reflected into the language uh uh the land use map as as it's as it's trying to uh balance the and address kind of the themes as as you alluded to, but also um the the districts as well.

So um not going to go over this slide.

I think we've shared this uh several times.

Um so Christian can go to the next slide.

Um so with the land use map, and and please uh don't worry, we'll have zoom in versions of this so we can actually look at a little bit more in depth.

Um what you're what you're seeing in this slide is kind of incorporating the that community feedback, and really as we think about those opportunity areas or the areas that we're gonna see on this map in pink is really a strategic uh redevelopment in limited areas along the corridor, or where we think that there could be um possibly new redevelopment and in land use is we want to be flexible.

So we're showing um possibilities of residential or commercial.

Um, but we also heard from the community a lot about more uh retail and commercial activities along the corridor.

So we want to really strengthen neighborhood serving retail, um, especially where we have existing um areas where people uh like to shop and gather and uh other things along the corridor, but also we heard a lot from the community, continue to hear a lot about preserving those um small business or industrial spaces in areas like uh South Quaker Lane and Colvin and to uh Wheeler Avenue.

So this is our our, you know, this is what we're uh trying to kind of also what we're also trying to show is in the housing affordability areas.

We we talked a lot about that language theme about um finding strategic tools to kind of retain longer term affordability.

Um so when we zoom into those areas, I can highlight those in one of them.

So next slide, Krishna.

So going east to west, um, what you see is actually a little bit more clear, those areas that um we think they're redeveloped are the opportunity sites that were that were shown in the way in use theme map that Amanda showed.

And what you're seeing in these asterisks is that big brain asterisk that you see um is actually this is a map note that we'll have in the supplemental uh slides, but it's it's it's working with property owners to find additional opportunities for open space.

So what you'll see as you're going along the corridor, and what we'll talk a lot about in the parts and open space map is having more um connectedness, but um that that's that's for a further slide.

And what you'll see in the double asterisk is uh those are areas that were kind of called out in the housing affordability theme area.

So um that map note is um uh basically permitting additional uh density or height for um um having more committed affordable units.

And um, one of the things along this corridor is that there's a lot of um naturally occurring market uh rate affordable uh rental units.

So finding ways to provide longer term affordability is something that we're thinking about proactively with this claim.

Uh next slide.

Uh thank you.

Uh and then moving less towards uh the redevelopment of the mall, you you'll see um those other areas in pink.

And uh you'll see the housing affordability asterisks.

Uh the other thing is for the we have actually two really large-scale communities, Fox Chase Apartments and Lisa there Van Dorn apartments.

And that that note is basically saying working with the property owners on plan recommendations to achieve um affordable housing objectives for the plan.

And with that, I'll uh pass it along to Jeff.

Hey, good evening, everyone.

Uh Jeff Farner, Deputy Director Planning Department.

And uh, first of all, as Kerry said, thank you for joining us tonight.

I think um I just want to echo some some things my colleagues have said so far, which is this is an introduction of these concepts.

And as Christian pointed out, we're gonna have a lot more forums to talk to you about comments and questions you have about what we're sharing tonight.

So uh this is really an introduction of these concepts.

Um this is uh a bigger corridor, and I think Christian at the end is gonna talk to you about a tool that we have for engagement uh to see all of these plan ideas in more detail.

So um I I also wanted to start with I think uh what Carrie and Christian have been talking about as well, is sort of how we got here.

And I think we have done uh a lot of listening.

I know I've heard from a lot of uh residents and businesses about needs and concerns and comments.

Uh and it started with why we should plan.

We had a conversation about that about city and community and businesses shaping a vision rather than responding to individual projects.

We also heard about promoting things that we want to see along the corridor, parks, affordable housing, neighborhood serving retail.

And to me, this is really a combination of all that, and how do we grow with purpose?

How do we grow as a city as a community and make sure we're implementing what we have heard along the way?

And really what this graphic is sort of building upon is what Jose was sharing with is in those sort of pink colored areas, the strategic areas of growth, what is height?

The areas around that.

So the areas just to point out that are hatched on this graphic are changing.

The other areas are remaining the same.

I will point out two things.

One is the Fox Chase location and Mason at Van Dorn, which Jose is pointing out, Fox Chase, and then Mason at Van Dorn on the left.

One of the things we are currently working with both property owners of how do we maximize retention and of affordable housing on both of those sites.

They are, as I'm sure everyone on this call is very much aware, really important housing resources for our city and this community.

And so, how can we how can we retain as much affordable housing as we can?

The other area, in addition to the opportunity sites that's changing, is a portion of the city campus.

And really that is intended to accommodate some of the city functions that are likely needed in that city campus to accommodate city facilities, things like salt domes, things like storage of of dump trucks and buses and other things that we as a city need to operate as a city.

So zooming in, so one of the things you'll see which with each of these categories, given the scale, we have zoomed in.

Actually, before we get there, some precedents.

Oops, let's go ahead and go to the next one.

So I think what's always helpful for us as we're talking about building heights are what are examples that either are in our city or in the region.

So what's 35 to 45 feet?

That's generally a townhouse in our city.

What's 45 to 60 feet?

Generally four to five stories.

Can be townhouse, can be multi-multifamily, but generally that is the height.

And I think the other thing I would point out as we think about whatever heights ultimately end up along this corridor is the importance of design.

And we've heard that, I have heard that from many of you is making sure that whatever happens along Duke Street that buildings are contributing back to the city and not detracting.

And a big part of that is having design parameters that wrap around an approval to make sure we're getting the type of quality and the type of building that I think many of you have discussed as part of this process.

So next slide.

So generally that's going to be a multifamily building.

Again, these are not designs, but really more about scale.

The image in the middle, uh, I included just to show that these are maximum heights, and within that height, you can also have smaller elements.

So it doesn't all have to be the same height.

And then the image on the right, importance of design.

Uh, whatever the height is, making sure that the design is appropriate for the location along Duke Street, and there are ways and things that we can build into this plan to make sure we're achieving that.

So next slide is really taking that overall height map, uh, zooming into the corridor, working from east to west, and just to orient everyone, Christian, uh, sort of the Masonic Temple is the area in Peach.

Uh, the telegraph and Duke interchange, you can see, and just to point out a couple things that we have, I think talked a lot about during this process is uh the area around Union Station, the idea of exploring a little bit more height there, also the areas south of Duke Street, uh, east of Telegraph, the properties adjacent to Whitter Field.

Uh Witter Field is what Christian's pointing out, a little bit to the right of that.

Yep.

Uh, and then things like Alexandria Commons.

Um, and the other thing you'll see here is city campus.

Um, and there are two options.

One is a little bit more height adjacent to the rail corridor for some functional uh facilities and uses the city may need.

Um, one benefit of that is it there is uh quite a bit of topography from north to south or from sort of middle of the screen to the bottom.

So if there is some additional height, it's going to be mitigated a little bit by the topography that exists there today.

We also have some options on the left-hand side in the area around Lucky Field.

One shows an opportunity for housing or civic uses or other uses.

The other on the bottom shows the fields remaining.

So those are options and conversations.

The other thing that you'll see here, and we're going to talk about this in more detail, is additional park network and connections.

We heard that loud and clear, and we'll talk about that as part of an upcoming slide.

So next slide is moving farther west.

Fox Chase Shopping Center, if you want to point that out, Christian, is right there just to orient everyone.

So that is a potential development site, as well as some of the commercial properties just east of that.

And then as you move farther west, properties like what is now the Honda dealership, etc.

The CVS are also potential redevelopment sites.

The other thing we talked about the asterisk of working with owners on housing affordability, both Fox Chase and Mason at Van Dorn, but also some of the other properties as well, making sure we can retain the affordable housing stock that's so important for our city.

So next slide is mobility.

So we have heard a lot about mobility.

Christian pointed this out on the overall community themes.

One was safety.

One was having opportunity to walk and bike and also concern about traffic and how can we integrate some of those into this planning process.

I will say one of the things, and Carrie talked about this early on, and we'll come back to this at the end as we think about schedule.

We're going to have to test all of these ideas and then come back to you on infrastructure, traffic study, impacts on schools, impacts on sewer, et cetera, et cetera.

So those are in process, but we will come back to you to talk about impacts on infrastructure.

So let's go ahead and jump to the next slide.

So one of the things I think we heard a lot is how can we provide more connections?

How can we provide more opportunities?

How can we give options for people to move in and around the corridor?

And then just to add, because we've heard quite a lot.

How do we address traffic, particularly from Quicker to Telegraph?

And again, we're working on a study to look at that and come back to you in June.

Let's go ahead and jump to the next slide, Christian, because I think at that scale you can see it a little bit better.

So a couple things this is really showing is uh where are the existing signals, um, where are new connections, where are uh so those are in brown potentially, and then where are we looking at improving existing streets, i.e., sidewalks or bike facilities or street trees, uh making those connections better, and thinking about this entire system as a network.

So as we're thinking about one street or one connection or one signal, thinking about the entire system and the entire network to think about how this functions and we give uh people who live there today, but also potentially some of the new residents as well, giving people options to move around in and around the corridor.

So let's jump to the next slide.

Uh so same idea, uh, sort of where redevelopment is happening, where are the opportunity for new connections?

Uh, and again, these are still very much a working draft, uh primarily focusing on areas that are redeveloping and giving people options to sort of move in and around the in and around the corridor.

So, next slide is really about uh open space.

Uh, I think we've heard a lot about uh the importance of what's out there today and places like homes run and how valued they are in the community, but there are also gaps along Duke Street, particularly in the central portion of the corridor.

Can we have more neighborhood serving parks?

Can we connect our existing parks to some of the new parks?

And can we make those connections safer?

So one of the things is you can see on the next slide is really how do you begin doing that?

And it's really thinking about very much like mobility.

How do we think of our parks and our park system as a network?

Walking, biking, accessing our parks, making sure they're safe to access.

And in particular, one of the things you'll see is that with redevelopment sites, there's an opportunity to add quite a few new parks, particularly in the central portion of the plan area.

And then how do we connect those new parks?

So let's jump to the next slide.

So this is sort of zooming in to this overall graphic.

Again, starting on the right.

That's the King Street Metro, Masonic Temple.

And one of the things you'll see is that there is we are proposing a sort of a bike pad connection from Witterfield all the way to the Metro Station going under Telegraph today.

So that there would be a new connection, new open space, accessing that sort of again, Witterfield to the Metro, to those communities.

You see the star at Virginia American Water is working with that property owner to try and get more open space.

And then moving farther west, thinking about new parks as well adjacent to Witterfield.

You can see there's some proposed new open space.

Again, how do we connect and leverage some of the parks that we have today?

The other sort of new facility you see is Alexandria Commons and Cameron Valley, a new park network that could connect to some of the existing street network or trail network.

And then moving farther west.

So again, continuing that theme of connectivity, you see some existing parks, existing open spaces, and then sort of connecting that system and network.

And in particular, some new open space at Fox Chase, the shopping center, and then again integrating that into the trail network and some asterisk to work with some of the property owners for additional open space.

So again, very much working draft, very much thinking about this as a system.

So with that, I will turn it over to Christian.

And I will just a reminder as we are moving along.

I see that some people have put some comments in the QA.

So please continue to do that.

And at the end, we're going to come back for questions and comments.

So thank you again for being here tonight.

All right.

Thanks, Jeff.

So, like I mentioned up top, there are lots of different ways to provide feedback on this on the framework plan.

The way that I think is the most exciting and cool is the engagement hub.

I'm going to give a little tutorial on that in just a second because I know that not everybody has used it before.

But that will have interactive maps where you can really zoom in to basically like a Google map with all of the stuff on it and really look at stuff.

And then you'll be able to drop pins on the map with your feedback.

In addition, we are in the process of scheduling out some pop-ups for the very end of this month plus uh May.

Uh we'll be posting that schedule on our um web page next week.

But you can think about these very similarly as you would have the ones in April in this time last year, actually.

Um so they'll be at places where people tend to go anyway, like the two shopping centers, um, King Street Metro, uh, you know, all the those types of places.

Um in addition, uh, we would love to come to your community meeting, whether that is a civic association meeting or a condo association meeting or any other community organization meeting.

Let's, you know, maybe your church is having a meeting and you'd like for us to go.

Um, we are very open to that.

Um we will there's no meeting we'll say no to.

Um so if you if that is something you're interested in, please email me.

My email is here on the screen.

Um, it is also um everywhere else too.

So um if you don't get it here, you can find it on our webpage.

It's on the engagement hub, it's in all the e-newses that get sent out.

Um, in addition, we'll be having four different Zoom office hours.

Um, and these we are hosting virtually just to give folks the opportunity to continue to ask questions and talk to staff about the plan.

Um, these will be um advertised in a follow-up e-news and also on our website um after today, but they are also here.

Um the they are April 30th and May 12th at 12 p.m.

and then May 18th and May 27th at 4 p.m.

Um in addition, we do have two upcoming community meetings, one on May 28th, one on June 17th.

Um, there's information about these on our website.

Um, and then also we'll we haven't um uh finalized the locations yet for these.

And so once we do that, we'll be updating our website and sending out an e-news.

Um the May 28th meeting will focus on housing and health, and then the June 17th meeting will focus on um parks, transportation slash mobility and um sustainability.

Uh if you don't if you're not excited about any of those other options, you can always send me your feedback directly by email.

And again, there's my email.

And then lastly, all of our documents and information, including the recording from today, the QA that Carrie referenced at the beginning, the maps, the PDFs of the maps, and then also this presentation will be uploaded to the project web page, which is Alexandria VA.gov forward slash due street plan.

So I am going to do a quick tutorial on how to use the engagement hub.

So I am going to stop sharing my screen for just a second so that I can share the engagement hub screen.

So give me just a second.

Okay.

And now I need to find it on my.

This is the note that Jose referenced earlier.

Um for this map, there's only one note, and that is this blue dot.

So that corresponds to these light, the light blue dots, not the dark blue dots, but the light blue dots correspond to this.

On the other maps, there will be more notes.

Um, and these are just adding additional context.

So lastly, if you have a question um and you don't think that it's and you'd like for it to be addressed um specifically, you can add your question to this QA, and then um we'll answer it on this QA form.

And then in addition, if you have a general comment that you aren't sure really belongs on the on any of the maps or you you aren't sure where to put it, um, we do have this uh comment box here.

Um, and you can um click read and contribute.

Um it does take you to a different page, but uh this you add your zip code, you write your comment, and then you click submit.

So uh that is the overview of our really cool, fun, and exciting interactive.

Um interactive website.

I'm gonna go back to the presentation.

Um, and I'm gonna turn it over to Carrie who's going to talk about next steps.

Great.

Thank you so much, Christian.

Um I assume you're about to share the presentation again.

Yes, I've sorry, I realized I didn't click share.

Yep, yep, yep.

Thanks.

Um, so this slide I'm sure looks familiar to those of you who have been following along and and giving us feedback along the way.

Um so the meetings and events that you see here um show how we'll be continuing to build the remaining elements of the plan um together with you.

Uh, and that uh your opportunities to weigh in on this, continue really all the way up until City Council has a public hearing on the plan.

And so we want to make that clear to you tonight.

Um starting with the draft framework plan tonight, as Christian mentioned, all the different ways to engage on it, the follow-up meetings in May and June to have additional uh discussion of the framework plan and then those specific topics.

Um you'll again hear uh notice that big orange bar in the middle.

That's a reminder to you that yes, um, we would love to be invited to your uh community groups meeting.

Um happy to do that.

The purple bar below that is a reminder of the engagement hub that Christian just described, and and that will um uh for the framework plan and or any other of the other elements that come up.

Below that, you'll see a pretty long list of the various boards and commissions that we're gonna be visiting in May and June to update them on the plan elements uh that we've built with uh the community so far, including this framework plan.

Um and of note on that list are a variety of boards and commissions, including planning commission on May 5th.

That'll be a work session at 6 p.m.

at the Mark Center, and then also uh uh discussion item at City Council on May 26th, also at the Mark Center, in addition to all of the other uh meetings that are listed.

And with that, that wraps up our presentation.

So we're gonna move over to questions and discussion.

And um, if you haven't been able to find that um button on your um Zoom panel, uh Christian has pulled that up for you.

There should be a little QA um there for you.

Um we are gonna go ahead and start reading them.

I'll start at the top.

Uh so the first question is what is the difference between residential one and residential two on the land use map.

Jeff, did you want to answer that one?

Yeah, I'll take that one.

So one of the things we are working on right now is uh what is the intensity or the FAR for these particular sites, FAR is floor air ratio, how much building volume uh is being proposed for these sites.

We don't yet have an answer to that.

So the residential uh sort of one and two as well as the residential commercial one and two.

So one and two would be residential one is a little bit lower and residential two is gonna be a little bit higher.

Uh but we're still working through that um that ratio and in that potential FAR for those sites.

I'll go ahead and take the next one, Carrie.

So there was also a question about building heights and how did we ultimately select these building heights?

It's a very good question.

So thank you, Phoebe, for that one.

I think one of the things we are also in the process of doing right now is looking at the economics of this plan and our recommendations to make sure what we're recommending can be achieved and can be implemented in the marketplace and the submarket.

So one of the things that sort of led us to these building heights.

So the construction type that we anticipate most likely occurring along the corridor is going to be 85 feet.

And there's there's a lot of sort of economics that wrap around that.

Happy to talk about that more, but that's what we see the market supporting in this location.

So that's what drove some of the heights in terms of city campus.

We went a little bit taller just in case we need facilities, uh functional facilities that might be a little bit taller than that.

So that was really the genesis of the opportunity areas and how we landed on on the building heights.

I think the next question Christian has answered will these framework maps be available as interactive maps, like the ones in the Master Plan Explorer tool.

The answer is yes through the uh online engagement hub that Christian just explained.

The next question is why aren't you adding lights at Fort Williams and Taylor Run Parkway?

It's a nightmare to get out of those.

So I would respond, and we will probably have to get back to you about this.

But there was a lot of discussion as part of Duke Street in Motion where uh signalized intersections would be.

And so our approach as part of this process is to implement the signalized locations that came out of Duke Street in Motion.

But let us also confirm that with our transportation staff, and we will we will also confirm that and get back to you.

But that was that was the genesis of how the signals were identified in this map.

The next question, uh, I realize that new building by Telegraph Road is predating this plan.

I think uh the building they're talking about is Whitter Place.

Um it's high and long, um, like driving in a cage, uh wait cave.

Way too close to the street.

So uh I'm glad you brought that up.

So one of the things that we are going to do as part of this plan, and we do with all of our plans is require that the streetscape, i.e., the setback of the building from the curb is appropriate given its context.

And uh, as you're pointing out, that building predated this planning process and some of the conversations around the Duke Street transit way.

But one of our goals as part of this plan is to make sure we have the appropriate setback.

So that is something we are in the process of working on.

And hopefully in the coming months, we can talk to you more about uh what we're thinking about for some of the streetscapes.

Well, the next one is uh looks like a transformed compliment.

I will supersede my previous question and share my huge thanks for the interactive maps.

They look really helpful and are a big upgrade from the prior process for Alex West.

Thanks so much.

Thank you for that.

Uh the next question.

When working with Fox Chase and Mason at Van Dorn, does that mean looking at redevelopment of the communities for increased density, or would it be just working to keep them as is to preserve market rate affordability?

Yeah, let's go to the Zoom and every other perfect.

Thank you, Christian.

So I think one of the things, it's a very good question.

I think one of the things we are looking at is what tools are available to save what's out there today.

Um of those tools is density.

Uh, there are many other tools uh that are are potentially also available.

So uh it's probably going to be a complement of different tools.

Um, and so stay tuned.

We are still working with them, but I think density, uh, additional density to save some of the existing units might be uh on the table as well.

But again, we're still still very much in conversations with those property owners.

And last question for now, we have um just a follow-up on heights.

So, based on what you just said, most of the buildings along Duke Street will be close to seven to eight stories.

Is that correct?

So let's go back to yeah, perfect.

So I think one of the things uh I would say uh as a corridor, uh I think one of the things that's really important as we think about building heights.

One of the things we heard, I heard during this process is thinking about the context of existing neighborhoods and also having variety of heights sort of up and down the corridor.

And so as you move farther west, there are taller buildings today.

Uh, but really one of the things you see as part of this plan is there's a lot of variety of height.

It goes from 35 feet, some of the new opportunity sites go up to 85 feet, and portions of the city campus are a little bit higher, and some of the existing buildings are a little bit higher.

Um, but it's really about variety.

And so thinking about sort of modulating height, sort of up and down uh along the corridor, it is definitely not one uniform height, which I think is uh Amanda talked earlier about districts and having different identities and placemaking as we move up and down that corridor.

So having variety of height, I think is going to build into what we've heard about as you're moving up and down the corridor, having different placemaking opportunities.

So it will not all be the same height.

Some of the opportunity sites uh are generally that height.

I would point out, however, if you go to the next slide, Christian.

You know, one, yeah, uh go back one.

It one of the things as we think about buildings, and someone commented about Winter Place.

One of the things as we think about buildings, there's a lot of ways to articulate a building to break down scale and reduce length.

Um, and the building in the that's actually one of the reasons we included the picture in the middle is of how do you do that?

So you have bigger and smaller elements, you have building breaks, you have building recesses, you have courtyards, you have other things that uh humanize the building and help it fit into its context.

So there's an absolute height, and then there are design parameters that we need to think about as we're thinking about new buildings as well.

All right.

Um I am not seeing any more questions.

Anyone have uh one more question or any questions that they'd like to add that they're just thinking of now.

Alrighty, hearing none, um, there will be, as we've as we've discussed, lots and lots of other opportunities to ask those questions or provide feedback through all the different um uh means that we've talked about so far.

And uh unless Jeff, did you have anything to add?

Yeah, I just I I I do want to add, I think Christian said this, and you said this, Carrie.

I just want to really emphasize we have an interactive platform.

We have different ways to engage.

So, whatever way you feel comfortable engaging with us, email uh on our website through the engagement hub, coming to your meeting, all the above, we're happy to do that.

Uh so please take advantage of different sources in the way you think benefit you and your communities the most.

So just let us know, and uh we're happy to happy to weigh in because I think everyone who's been participating so far has made this plan better.

So I appreciate that, and and thank you.

All right.

Well, with that, we will close the meeting.

Thank you all for your time and and participation so far, and we will uh see you at the next event.

Thank you.

Okay.

Thanks everybody.

Have a good rest of your night.