Good evening, everyone.

The time is five fifty nine.

We will have to wait just a few more minutes for more board members to join so that we have a quorum.

So just bear with us, please.

There is a couple of you that it's not letting me do that as a host.

So if you could please just double check and make sure that you are muted.

Thank you, everybody.

Sorry, people.

Thank you, Chris.

That's fine, no problem.

Good evening, everyone.

We are now back in session.

I'm gonna call back to order the public hearing of the independent community policing review board, the hearing that convened on Monday evening, 629-26 and was recessed to this evening.

The time is 6.02 p.m.

on Wednesday, July 1st, 2026.

The discontinued session is being conducted virtually.

I will ask the secretary to please call the role to establish a quorum.

Good evening.

Roll call, Suzanne Berkey present.

Darylyn Franklin.

Christopher Lewis.

Present.

Gina Tool.

Here.

Deborah Porter.

Here.

Alexis Stackhouse, Vice Chair.

Present.

Jules Tamagay.

Here.

I apologize, Tomagay.

It's all right.

Here.

Uh all president accounted for with the exception of Daryl and Franklin.

Thank you.

Quorum is present, so we will proceed.

For the record, this is a continuation of the same hearing that began Monday evening.

This is not a new hearing.

All actions, motions, and the record from Monday stand.

When we recessed on Monday, we had completed the auditor's presentation and the full public comment portion of the hearing.

Public comment was closed on Monday and will not be reopened during this hearing.

There will be a public comment section when we get to the July agenda for the July 1st meeting, but not for this public hearing that has already been closed.

We're simply picking up where we left off.

So we recessed during board discussion just prior to a vote.

We will therefore resume with continued board discussion, followed by any motion and vote that the board wishes to take.

So I will recognize members in turn that desire to continue speaking about the auditor's presentation.

Please just raise your hand, use the emojis to raise your hand, and I will um call on you as I see those hands raised.

And I I appreciate that the auditor didn't have it, but I I do feel like it's important to understand that as part of this the overall investigation.

If we are making if there's a recommendation to do a refresher training, um I think it would be extremely helpful to understand when the last training or when the last um or how that information was accessed by the police officers.

I think it also speaks to the point that Member O'Toole was making about supervision and whether the sergeant was trained or was aware of that information.

I won't give others an opportunity to step in as well, but I do want to go back to member Tool's comments.

That we do need that additional information on the sergeant.

I think the report left it, and I I really appreciate um her comments that the report left it for us to seek additional review of that particular area.

And so in that regard, I also feel like this is a bit incomplete because that that was left open.

So let me stop there for the moment um and let others speak, and I may come back.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Secretary Burke.

Do any other board members have any comment that they wish to make, any question they would like to ask of the auditor as it pertains to her presentation the other evening.

Member Lewis, go right ahead.

Number one, I uh I want to agree with uh Suzanne.

Um I'm interested in uh you know what the auditor offered in in her report, uh the opportunity for further uh look into the responsibilities um including the supervisory responsibilities of the sergeant.

So uh that one alone uh I think is a is a good reason for uh uh a label of incomplete, and hopefully, since it was suggested by the report, um the auditor would just agree to uh to work on that um and then come back with a more complete and final report with uh uh with that sort of analysis included.

Um to that um I think you know I share uh the the uh the vice chair's concerns about please mute your screen or please mute your screens.

I I think I'd share the vice chair's concerns um about the lack of um uh any sort of uh disciplinary action uh referrals, recommendations uh that were given to the chief in the report.

I understand uh the legal arguments as to why they're not there, but I would love for us in the intervening period while um uh the uh the other sections are are updated and and completed in the report.

I would love for us to think about how we can uh find in our process a way to have that sort of reporting given to the board.

Um I don't know if that requires uh uh and I'm making this up, uh, some sort of confidential report or something.

Uh, but I think that would be um good for uh uh for the intent of the what I think was the intent of the council and us reviewing the investigations that it should include uh these sorts of recommendations.

Um so I would love for us to find ways procedurally that that works that works for the auditor's office and for the board.

Um lastly, I'll say um uh I was concerned with some of the uh facts given about uh the interactions with the the sheriff's office.

Um we heard different reactions from uh the previous sheriff.

Um and so I think there's opportunities to uh look at uh uh and clean up some of the the facts around the interaction between the sheriff's office in both the incident and uh with the auditor's office, so that is uh clean and understood before we come back with the final report.

So I think there's lots of opportunities uh to continue the work.

Um and uh and hopefully we if we do some sort of uh incomplete vote, which I know is one of our options, um that'll be welcomed by the auditor's office and and we can um we can get all of those addressed in some form or fashion.

Thank you, Member Lewis.

Any other board members before we get to a motion and and a vote?

Any other board members have comment?

Vice Chair Sackhouse.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um I have two points.

Uh the first is a request uh to the auditor.

Uh if we do go back to a portion or or a version where we say, okay, we don't have enough information with regard to the report, um, and we go back and ask her to get some additional information, then uh I would request, because I'm looking at I took notes on what was said.

One thing that was said at the Monday hearing was that state confidentiality law uh prohibited the auditor from uh publicly presenting her disciplinary recommendations.

And then later on, I got the exact language it says that um she indicated she did not disclose those because her disciplinary recommendations under state FOIA laws are considered personnel records.

So then I looked at the ordinance again.

Uh who the city attorney's office is supposed to represent.

They sometimes it it's a it's an amalgamation.

It's us, the auditor, except for sometimes when we have our own council.

Um so I just like for her to clean up for me and if she comes back and we ask for additional information.

I'd specifically like to know what that is.

I'm looking at like an issue, a rule analysis, the conclusion.

I would like to, I would like to see the case sites.

I want to know exactly how it is that this legally that this cannot be released.

And I don't want somebody just telling me.

I want to be able to read it and do further research myself.

The second thing, so that's my ask on the record.

And the second thing is uh, like uh member Lewis, I I'm concerned, but less so concerned about any the interaction uh with what's going on with the sheriff's office or whatever happened in that capacity.

I'm laser focused, I believe, on what's going on with APD.

So to the extent that we have some additional information that we need from the sheriff or whatever, I I would rather we focus our energies on the APD uh side of it.

Uh while the sheriff's office clearly was involved, I think that the most important part of this deals with in custody.

That means this young man was under arrest and in the custody of APD.

So there may be some peripheral sheriff issues, but I I would like for any additional investigation or research really to focus on the APD's office over.

Thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Any other comments by any board members at this time, questions, comments for the auditor, uh, or just in general, uh, before we move for a vote.

Yes, by uh, I'm sorry, Secretary Burke.

Thank you for that almost promotion.

Um I just wanted to stress I do agree with um Vice Chair Stackhouse in terms that I really do believe it needs to be addressed why discipline was not included in the report.

Um considering what the ordinance says, what our MOU says, what we have been told our responsibilities are.

Um, I believe that we need to have some explanation within the report.

So I just wanted to share my my statement of support for that.

Um to have it have it in document form.

Um with regard to the sheriff's office, I do recognize that we are focused on APD and actions, policies and whatnot there.

However, if there is an opportunity to ensure that information is factually correct because you know, confirming um because it is a public document, and because we do speak to interagency coordination as part of the recommendations.

I would just ask that we we that could be if it is considered an incomplete report that that is an area that is looked at.

Thank you.

Thank you, Secretary Burke.

Any other comments, questions by the ICPRB board?

Any members have any other comments or questions?

If not, with that being said, uh, I would like to solicit a motion.

Again, you all know that we have four options before us.

We can either concur with all or some of the findings and determinations detailed in the investigative report.

That is option number one.

Option number two, we can advise city council, the city manager, APD, and the auditor that the findings are not supported by the information reasonably available, the APD and recommend further review, consideration and/or action by the police chief.

That's our second option.

Our third option is to advise city council, city manager, the APD, and the auditor that in the board's judgment the investigation is incomplete and recommend additional investigation by majority vote and by final approval by city council.

That is our third option.

Our fourth option is to recommend referral of the complaint to the Commonwealth's attorney of the city of Alexandria.

So based on the discussion and conversation and questions, it appears that our option number three, which is an incomplete investigation has come up a couple of times.

So before we move forward, I will um go ahead and ask uh member Lewis.

Oh, I was going to offer a motion, but is that did you want to do something before you entertained a motion?

Oh, oh, thank you.

Okay.

Um, so yeah, I move that uh uh the board advise uh the council uh uh an auditor that uh that the investigation is incomplete and recommend additional investigation.

Um specifically into uh the supervisory role of uh the uh the sergeant in the report, um and as well as uh the opportunity to answer and clarify other facts and and uh uh questions from the board members that have been raised uh in the public hearing.

So if it pleases the chair, I I would like to make a friendly amendment uh to the motion that's on the floor.

And um I'm sorry, does it please the chair?

Please the chair, thank you.

Uh in addition, I want to ensure that my request, what I asked for, which was the legal basis, the rationale, the case sites, the law with regard to why and how state confidentiality law or state or commonwealth FOIA law prohibit the disciplinary recommendations of the auditor from being made in public.

That was the first.

And the second was how those are classified, if at all, as a personal record over.

And uh Madam Chair, I I thought my motion was inclusive for that, even though it wasn't specific, but if that's necessary, it's fine by me.

Okay, motion amended.

Do we have a second?

Madam, Madam Chair, it yes, it may be that given the breadth of um member Lewis's motion as stated, which was all of the questions raised by the members in the discussion just now, including uh member Stackhouse's question regarding the operation of the ordinance and and other matters, that an amendment likely is not necessary.

And and member staffhouse may wish to withdraw the amendment.

Otherwise, we need to address the amendment of the motion by vote first, and then you'd have to get back to the main motion.

So this depends on the pleasure of member stackhouse as to whether or not she sees uh member Lewis's motion is comprehensive or not as he's explained it.

Vice Chair Stackhouse.

I do, um, but I was trying to think of the right parliamentary move.

I didn't want to withdraw it because if I withdraw my language, it means that I would No, no, no, no.

You're withdrawing the motion, not your language.

He explained that his motion was comprehensive in that it included your question as well.

Tracking motion withdrawn.

Thank you.

You're back to the back to the main motion, then Chair Porter, and you need a second.

Thank you.

So we're back to the main motion.

Do we have a second?

I seconded.

Motion was offered by member Lewis and seconded by Jules Tamagay.

All in favor, say aye.

You might want to ask for a little discussion just in case there is any.

I don't know.

Probably isn't, but just before there any discussion on that motion before we move forward with a vote.

Secretary Berkey, I see your hand up.

Thank you.

If we could just clarify, because I think there were several points of discussion, so that when we communicate this, I know we have said it is inclusive of all the discussion, but for example, I raised the point it would be I would like more if we are going to recommend if the investigation recommended refresher training, but it did not speak to when the previous training was provided.

That was something I asked.

I didn't understand whether that would be included or not.

Ms.

Simpson may be allowed, Madam Chair, just to speak to this as a matter of procedure and at least how I see the ordinance, and obviously um Megan Robertson and Robert Porter can correct me if I'm if I'm if I'm wrong.

The the matter of further investigation is largely factual investigation.

Um to the extent um member Berkey that you are seeking further investigation of the sergeant's training with respect to the protocol around medical care requests.

Is that an accurate description of what you've asked to be included in the additional review?

Because otherwise the record will reflect what all of you asked for.

And so the auditor will be informed by the record as to what your requests were.

So in my estimation, Member Lewis's motion is complete and comprehensive with respect to every point you all raise in terms of additional information that you seek from the auditor.

Secretary Berkey, your response.

Thanks to my understanding that all discussion will be included under the motion.

That works for me.

I tried, Suzanne.

Tried to get all of us in there.

Any other discussion before we vote?

Well, I mean, I did, yes, Member Lewis, you did.

But sometimes, you know what?

You got to put it on the table.

I'm not asking for amendment or anything.

Over.

With that being said, all in favor, please signify by raising your hand and saying aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Any opposed.

Any opposed?

Motion passes.

And the vote is secure unanimously.

Okay, wonderful.

So let's make sure that we have done all of that due diligence, and we can adjourn the public hearing and then move on to the actual July meeting.

I just want to notate that the June 29th public hearing was officially adjourned at 623.

Right.

Yes.

Public hearing adjourned.

Thank you very much.

So we will now move to our agenda for the July 1st meeting.

Just to make a quick switch here.

We've already done roll call.

If I could have a board member volunteer to read our introduction and board purpose, anyone at all can just unmute and read that, please.

Uh I can do that.

Thank you.

The creation of the independent community policing review board, ICPRB started with the Alexandra City Council resolution 2950 on June 9th, 2020, which condemned police brutality and systemic racism, reaffirmed the Black Lives Matter, and advocated for justice system reform.

The resolution emphasized the city's duty to protect all communities through action and accountability.

On April 17th, 2021, the council adopted an ordinance to create the ICPRB effective July 1st, 2021, and establish the Office of the Alexandria Independent Policing Auditor or AIPA.

The ICPRB is an eight-member board focused on enhancing trust and legitimacy between the police city leadership and the public.

Evaluates policing policies and practices and recommends reforms to address discriminatory practices and inequities and to improve public safety.

Thank you.

If I fail to do so, with this meeting begin and will be called to order at 624 p.m.

Moving right along, item number four, we need to approve the uh meeting agenda for this July first meeting.

Is there a motion to do so?

I move we approve the meeting agenda as publicized.

Second uh motion by Chris Lewis, second by Vice Chair Stackhouse.

All in favor of the approval of the agenda, signaled by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Aye.

All opposed.

Agenda is accepted.

We also need to move forward with the approval of the minutes from the June 3rd meeting.

Those were sent out earlier.

May I have a motion to approve those minutes.

I make a motion to approve the minutes from the June 3rd, 2026 meeting.

Second.

Motion by Secretary Berkey, seconded by Vice Chair Stackhouse.

Any discussion about those minutes at all?

Okay.

And all in favor, signal by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Any opposed.

Okay.

Minutes have been accepted.

We will move on to item number six, which will allow for public comment.

Again, I will just remind everyone that your time limit is three minutes, and we ask that you state your name before you begin your comment.

The first person we have here that has signed up for public comment is Ms.

Sondra Jones.

Ms.

Jones, are you here?

Yes, ma'am.

How are you?

We're happy to have you.

Your three minutes start then.

Miss Kamara and members of the independent community policing review board.

I want to take a moment to express my deepest gratitude for your integrity, professionalism, and countless hours you devoted to the review and investigation of my son's death.

As Alan's mother, this has been very devastating.

Throughout this process, there were many moments when my grief turned into anger and frustration.

There were times when I felt overwhelmed by the delays, the uncertainties, and the weight of knowing my son repeatedly asked for help before he died.

Ms.

Kamara, despite those difficult moments, you never responded with impatience or defensively.

Instead, you consistently treated me with the most utmost respect, compassion, and dignity.

Most importantly, you never made me feel as though my voice or Alan's life did not matter.

Integrity is not simply doing the right thing when it's easy, it's doing the right thing when it's difficult.

Throughout your investigation, you demonstrated that kind of integrity.

For that, I will always be grateful.

I also want to extend my sincere appreciation to each and every member board, each and every member on the board.

I recognize that you serve as volunteers, dedicating your personal time and energy, your willingness to serve your community and carefully consider matters of police accountability, deserves recognition and respect.

Thank you for your dedication, your thoughtfulness, consideration, and your commitment to transparency and public trust.

I appreciate the time each of you invested in reviewing my son's case and your willingness to serve the citizens of Alexandria.

I am grateful for the effort, compassion, and professionalism that was shown throughout this difficult process.

Once again, thank you all for your service, your integrity, your unwavering commitment to accountability.

My family and I sincerely appreciate everything that you've done.

Over.

Thank you, Ms.

Jones.

We appreciate you offering that to us tonight.

Thank you very much.

And our second um person that has signed up to speak is Ms.

Brittany Tucker.

Ms.

Tucker, are you here?

Yes, I'm here.

Thank you.

Your three minutes starts now.

Good evening.

I just wanted to say thank you to the board.

Over the past several months, our family has carried an unimaginable burden.

While nothing can undo the loss of my brother or erase the pain we continue to live with.

Your commitment to conducting a thorough independent review has meant more to us than words can express.

We also recognize that this process has required you not only to examine a difficult case, but to witness our family's grief firsthand.

Through every meeting, every public comment and every emotional moment.

You have allowed us the space to be heard.

Thank you for treating us with dignity and respect during one of the most traumatic experiences of our lives.

Your comments and commitment have reaffirmed what we have been fighting to bring to light.

And your willingness to hold the process to a high standard has given our family hope that accountability and transparency are possible.

Thank you for your service, for your integrity and for remembering that behind every case is a family forever change.

We are deeply grateful for the time, care, and humanity you have shown throughout this process.

And also a quick comment about the process involving the cert team to APD and their chief and the sheriff department to Amaratu relating information to the board.

It's messy.

There's been a lot of twists and turns and hiding of hands along the way.

This entire process and system needs to be reviewed and reinforced.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ms.

Tucker.

It's um humbling that your family in this moment with everything that you've been through would take the time to show appreciation to the board.

And we we truly appreciate that.

And we don't take that lightly at all.

So thank you so much.

Moving on to item number seven.

Uh board discussion, public hearing recap and next steps.

I think we've covered that in the um when we opened up and and finished the public hearing.

Uh are there any other comments at this point?

It is on the agenda, so I do want to allow space for it, but it is my um opinion that we've moved on.

Uh, Secretary Burkey, is your hand up for this one?

It is.

And I think it's a point of clarification in terms of next steps.

Um, given that we have taken a vote, I think we do need to communicate this formally.

Um, and so that is uh within this within this agenda item.

And so my recommendation would be that we um the board sends a letter outlining the decision um and the rationale behind.

Not a started over.

I got it.

Is that is that your your your complete comment that we got a letter be drafted and sent to the appropriate parties about our decision and and what the um incomplete um areas involve.

Yes.

Okay, thank you very much.

Any other comments?

Um as we are um wrapping up the public hearing.

Any um yes, member Lewis.

Uh also just uh I have a clarifying question.

Um the notes we have including in the auditors report that kind of outlined our options as a board and then the one that we took um uh points to um when we give this communication that uh the Ms.

Berkey recommended, uh then if there's a city council decision on uh uh further investigation.

However, my understanding was that uh city council only needs to get involved on deciding if there's a further investigation if the auditor's office does not agree to do one.

So um I don't know, I don't want to put the auditor on the spot right now if she's not prepared to give an answer on that.

But my hope is that if she does agree, we um she's allowed to simply move forward.

We don't have to wait for it to be docketed with the council who's not meeting until September.

So uh is that assumption correct or thank you, Member Lewis.

Is the auditor here?

Did uh Miss Gil, did you want to comment?

Hi, how are you?

Would you like would you like to comment on that?

Yeah, no, um I am to my knowledge.

If um the board recommends further investigation, it does need to be approved by counsel.

I believe that's how it's plainly written in the in the ordinance.

Um I can go back and and look at it.

Um obviously, uh, as I said at the public hearing, I have no um issues going in and and reinvestigating against the sergeant.

I just want to make sure procedurally we're following everything correctly.

So um Chris mentioned if it does take a council approval, um my understanding is today is the last day before uh council recesses for the summer um will be sort of beholden to the council timeline at that point if their approval is needed.

Um but I'm not sure um what the ordinance I I'm I am sure I think that the ordinance says that if you all um would like me to go back and reinvestigate, then it takes council approval.

But let me look at the section one more time.

Thank you, Chairman Vice Chair, yes, vice chair uh just to just to help out a little bit, if we turn our attention to the ordinance and then we look at uh it's my page nine, but it's a it's the section um under board review of APD and AIPA investigations, and then it is actually I believe it's number uh five is what uh member Lewis is referring to.

It says at least that's that's what I think.

Um he's he's referring to that section.

That's what we would be looking to just to if we all want to look at it at the same time.

But I concur with what Chris said.

My reading of it says that it's only if the auditor declines to go back and do additional investigation that we have to go to city council.

But you know, I'll I'll Alexis first look section.

Were you referencing again?

Um board review of APD and AIPA investigations.

Like it's like almost like two pages.

It's yeah, it's a whole yeah.

Ms.

Hudson also has her hand up.

I don't know if she can help.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Ms.

Hudson.

I don't know if I can help, and it may be that um I think Rob Porter is still on, but um, I just remind um you, madam chair, that we did hear from the city attorney's office with respect to these next steps and the information that we've received uh is that a council vote is required, council approval is required for the additional investigation.

Council approval is required for the additional investigation.

At least that's the latest information I've received from the city attorney's office.

I don't know if Rob wants to add to that.

And so this matter of that only being a requirement if the auditor declines to do additional investigation.

So this is something that has to be sussed out.

I'm sorry, Rob, if you were resting.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ms.

Hudson.

Mr.

Porter.

Oh, thank you.

Adam Chair.

So I'm looking at section 2-4-227.

Let's see here.

Court that gives you the different options that you can choose when you're voting on a an investigation.

And number C says that the board can advise city council, the city manager, APD, and the independent auditor that in the board's judgment the investigation is incomplete and recommend additional investigation by majority vote.

That's what the board did.

And final approval by city council.

So it has that language there in the in the statute.

That's what that's where the um city council approval comes from.

That's that's where we're getting that.

And today being the last day the council is in session, so this waits until September.

Is that what we're saying?

Um I it it's possible it could be done earlier than that, but I can't promise anything.

I but it it may be something that's possible uh before then.

Uh I I can't say at this time.

Thank you, Mr.

Porter.

Any other comments, questions around that?

Okay.

Well, we will move on to item number eight, which is uh closed executive session.

I will read from the statute that allows for that, and I would ask for a motion.

Closed session pursuant to the Virginia Code 2.2-3711.a.8 uh to consult with legal counsel retained by the board regarding specific legal matters pertaining to one recent state legislation governing police civilian review board meetings and two the extent of board authority under the city code and requiring legal advice by council.

Like a motion to be able to go into closed session.

I will uh move into closed session pursuant to uh the citation of state code from the chair.

Second, thank you, Mr.

Lewis.

Second by Vice Chair Stackhouse.

Thank you very much.

Do we have a separate link for us to get into?

I would ask the auditors office.

Do we need a roll call vote?

Okay, yeah, okay.

So Secretary, will you provide a roll call vote, please?

Yes, one moment, please.

Suzanne Burkey.

Yes.

Christopher Lewis.

Yes.

Gina Tool.

Doesn't vote.

Oh, apologies.

Deborah Porter.

Yes.

Alexa Stockhouse.

Yes.

Jules Tumaga.

Yes.

Thank you.

Um again, I will check with the auditor in her office about.

I have that, Deborah.

So I'm gonna open the breakout room.

I just want to let everybody that is here and logged in to understand that what this means is that every board member will leave this room that you guys are currently in and they will go into a separate room for this executive session.

So nothing in this room here will be happening while they're in this room.

I just want everybody to understand that when they are done concluding their business, they will come back into this room to conclude this meeting.

Thank you.

Oh, yeah, you know.

We've all made it back.

I would like to say that the board is returning from closed executive session.

I can confirm that the discussion was limited to the matter for which the session was called consistent with the requirements of the Virginia Freedom of Information Act.

Jean O'Toole.

Oh, you don't vote.

I apologize about.

Yep, Deborah Porter.

Yes.

Alexa Stockhouse.

Yes.

Jules.

Yes.

Sorry.

Thank you.

We can go ahead then and move on to number nine, the agenda items and next meeting scheduling.

So we could confirm future meetings.

August 5th will be our next meeting.

There will be a two-hour NACOL virtual training.

The meeting will not be virtual, but the training will be virtual.

So we will, as I understand it, be back at the Houston Rec Center August 5th at 6 o'clock.

September 2nd, our regularly scheduled monthly board meeting, no training there.

And October 7th, there's as of right now, no training there as well.

Announcements.

The agenda items under number nine.

Yes, Secretary Burke.

I'm sorry, did you recognize me?

Yes.

Okay.

I would just ask in reviewing the ordinance and looking at the board's duties.

We have duties regarding review of police policies, evaluating reports, data, budgets, whatnot.

I think it would be worthwhile if board members came to the August 5th meeting.

Having considered perhaps some areas we would like to prioritize or think about addressing outside of the investigation that fall within our duties.

So that would be my recommendation to put on the agenda.

On the agenda for the August 5th meeting.

Okay.

I can see that the auditor uh has her hand up as well, but we'll go with number O'Toole and then Vice Chair.

Did you have your hand up earlier?

I thought you were.

Did you have something to say too?

No.

Okay.

Yes.

Just for clarification, Deborah, I think we were looking at October and November to do APD training with Dr.

Engel.

I'm sorry, someone is not muted.

Um if you could please, everyone that's on, if you could please make sure that you are muted.

Um Ashley, if you could help me with that as well.

Yeah, say that again.

I'm sorry, member O'Toole.

What was you?

What were you saying?

Yes.

I'm not sure whether you said there was no training in October, but October and November was when we were looking to have the APD training with Dr.

Engel virtually.

Is that correct, Jules?

Is that your understanding?

That's correct.

I was about to say that thank you.

Okay.

Okay, so we'll need to have that updated by the auditor's office.

Um was it October or November?

You're not sure.

You're saying it's one of those.

There's two sessions.

It's four hours for that two sessions.

Yes, two sessions.

Okay.

And we haven't really firmed that up to my knowledge.

I have an email out to Sasha that hasn't been responded to in a couple weeks.

So it has to do with national night out stuff too, which we she hasn't responded.

So yeah, I think right now they're they're focused on national night out, but I'm happy to support Eugene in just getting a response back so that we can nail down the APD things.

Um the reason why I put up my hand though was in response to Suzanne's suggestion, which I think is a great suggestion about identifying policies that you all want to look at.

I just wanted to encourage because we're doing a use of force training um that day, maybe you all taking a look at the the department's use of force uh directive, which is 10.32.

I can also send that out to you all.

Um just one share.

Yeah.

Thank you, Auditor Kamara.

Thank you so much.

Any other discussion around the agenda items and next meeting schedules?

Yes, Vice Chair.

Uh, if you recall, Madam Chair, we did uh I had broached the subject of having closed session for the purpose of discussion consideration of appointment promotion performance.

It's under the exemption A1, um, so that we could get uh talk as a board in preparation for uh with regard to the board and staff assistance that we receive because we have to report to city council um uh uh about uh our consensus on that.

And so I just wanted to remind you of that.

Thank you very much.

So we will um check that exemption and then schedule for closed session under that exemption for the August 5th meeting as well.

Thank you.

Any other comments?

Yes, Member Lewis.

This was an easy one.

Uh September 2nd and October 7th meetings, are they six o'clock or seven o'clock starts?

Just for my own calendar.

Uh I will um ask the auditor to come in on that one.

But if there's training involved, it's my understanding that that's a six o'clock meeting.

So if they're saying there's a two-part APD training, then um I would say it's a 6 p.m.

start time.

Uh if I'm if I'm incorrect, Ashley or Amaratu, please feel free to correct me.

And maybe first of the October and November.

I'm not sure if there's training in September, Chris.

Yeah, typically when there is a training that exceeds one hour, if it's two hours, we typically start early at six.

So it should start at six.

You're right, Deborah.

Okay.

Can you update this?

What you've sent us in an email and put times next to the September, October, and November meeting dates.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Hopefully.

Thank you.

Vice Chair.

As a reminder, Madam Chair, you recall that one of the city agencies had requested they be able to come and make a presentation during one of those.

Um I I'm looking at at our calendar, maybe the potentially September 2nd, because I'm I'm not exactly clear when we have the training, but if you would consider that in the in the uh formation of our upcoming schedule so that we could kind of get back to them and see if that would be a good opportunity.

Okay.

Thank you for that reminder.

Yes, we uh the sheriff's office would like to uh come in and develop a relationship and just begin to share with us their processes and procedures.

So we will um consider September 2nd.

I will talk with Sheriff Casey myself and see if that if that works, and we will um have the auditor's office send out an updated calendar so that we're up to date on the who, the when, and the actual start times for these meetings and um you know, those early meetings can be long days for y'all that are coming straight from work.

So I'll try to have some pizza or something there to help you out.

Okay, so moving on, are are we finished with discussion around that meet uh agenda items, meeting times and schedules?

Okay.

We'll move on to uh item number 10 uh announcements.

Um anyone have any particular announcements?

I think we've covered them.

Um Secretary Berkey has asked us to consider uh policies that we want to cover.

Amaratu shared that since we're looking at use of force, that might be a policy that we consider.

Um other announcements would include encouraging uh members of the community to consider applying for current board vacancies.

We currently have one vacancy.

Uh, this is an opportunity to to contribute your perspective support, uh, meaningful initiatives and helping shape decisions that impact our community.

Applications for board seats uh can be submitted through boards.alexandria.gov slash board slash five nine eight seven.

That information is also available online.

Couple of reminders, any board members that cannot attend, uh please let us know no less than two days ahead, unless obviously there is some kind of emergency and you're unable to do that.

Um we must maintain current status for all city security training assigned.

Be sure you do that you check that and also keeping up with our ride-along hours as well.

Um questions, comments before we adjourn here.

Madam Chair, I have a couple of uh yes, yes.

Madam Chair, I have a couple of reminders.

Um, just for the board's information, the chair and I have requested along with uh along with Secretary Burkey, um, have requested budget information from past years so that we could do a potential trend analysis in the event that we are trying to advocate for funding for ourselves, or also advocate for additional funding for the auditor's office.

We kind of need to know what it looked like, what we've asked for.

When I say what we, I mean in conjunction, obviously through the auditor.

Um, what what she's asked for, how was it expended, and um, and then an end date on that to see if the expenditures were aligned with the requests.

Uh that was the first thing, and then the uh second thing was um just a reminder uh with regard to our NACO membership.

Um we're coming up on the NACOL uh national um it's not convention, it's a national meeting ummit or conference or something.

National conference.

And as I'm reading the NACOL information, if we don't have membership within a certain time prior to the actual convention or or or gathering, then we will not be allowed to participate and vote as uh as a block.

uh with regard to our NACO membership um we're coming up on the NACOL uh national um it's not convention it's a national meeting um it's conference or something national conference and as I'm reading the NACOL information if we don't have membership within a certain time prior to the actual convention or or or gathering then we will not be allowed to participate and vote as uh as a block so in other words uh vote for the officers vote for different things like that so just a reminder um we need an update on that what the what the status of that is um and I'll defer to the chair and let her handle that but uh just a reminder on that thank you i i'll ask the the auditor since she's here is there any update on either the membership or even the registration um for the uh attending the conference for members of the board i don't have an update on that right now no okay thank you perhaps you could also um give us an email on that one as well um since we're putting it out here now it's july one so i think the the convention or the conference is i want to say early to early november i believe is when it is so if we could get an update on that that would be fantastic thank you vice chair any other reminders announcements if not i will entertain a motion to adjourn we adjourn second motion made by member lewis seconded by vice chair all in favor aye aye aye opposed nine thank you all very much thank you to the public for attending and we look forward to our next gathering thank you everyone have a good evening thank you thank you