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Allegheny County Council Holds FY2027 Budget Public Hearing on October 21, 2026

County Council — Wednesday, October 21, 2026
BodyAllegheny County, Pennsylvania
SessionCounty Council
DateWednesday, October 21, 2026
StatusNEW · FILED
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Speaker 1

2:46

Good evening.

2:46

I like to call together the uh public hearing for the proposed twenty twenty-seven budget.

2:52

Jared or Sarah, may you nod to the members who are here.

Speaker 2

2:56

Physically present at the moment.

2:57

We have Mr.

2:58

Bada, Ms.

2:59

Hiliagi, Mr.

3:00

Krisbeck, Mr.

3:00

Rose, Ms.

3:01

Geiger Schulman, Ms.

3:02

Medana Emmerling, and Chairman Palmasina.

Speaker 1

3:09

Thank you.

Unassigned speaker

3:09

Uh good

Speaker 2

3:10

evening.

3:12

Thank you very much.

Unassigned speaker

3:14

Who

Speaker 2

3:14

wasn't?

3:14

Thank you.

3:15

It's Mr.

3:15

Adams, he'll be in and

Speaker 1

3:17

okay, good evening all.

3:18

Tonight is the first of our two public hearings on the twenty twenty-seven proposed budget.

3:24

We were here from the community college of Allegheny County, the district attorney's office, the administration branch of our county government, and the controller's office.

3:45

First up is Benjamin Chishark.

Unassigned speaker

4:10

Do

Speaker 3

4:10

you want to start?

Speaker 4

4:13

Microphone check one, two, one, two.

4:15

You are good now.

Unassigned speaker

4:17

Sorry,

Speaker 2

4:18

Mr.

4:18

Whatever, you're ready.

Unassigned speaker

4:20

Thank

Speaker 4

4:20

you, Mr.

4:21

Chair, for moving the budget hearings up.

4:23

I prefer public engagement take place when you guys and the staff are in the weeds, not after the decisions.

4:31

Public notice minimum it gets limited participation.

4:34

I believe you all should use your popularity to get out in the community and have late summer hearings.

4:39

Mr.

4:40

Chair, I sit with great concern on the twenty twenty-seven budget.

Unassigned speaker

4:44

I

Speaker 4

4:44

believe we are in full blown crisis due to regular structural mismanagement.

Unassigned speaker

4:48

We're not even discussing solutions like compartmentalized spending, uh geobond package, new sales tax, cutting the millage, reviewing the half penny, expanding county services to reduce municipal budgets, or asking for statewide removal of exemption.

Speaker 4

5:07

But I digress.

5:18

I'm concerned we're not even talking about 1.7 million billion of the 30 billion because you have a simple yes no vote on grants with a contribution of 25 mil.

5:27

Just because it comes from the state and the federal government.

5:29

It's misleading and harms public trust.

Unassigned speaker

5:32

Next.

Speaker 4

5:33

Not even talking in the 30 billion about the pension debacle, which could cost us $100 million, which I hope is found in the regular budget somehow.

5:40

It's easy to say we support something and then underfund

Unassigned speaker

5:43

it.

Speaker 4

5:44

Our public employees should have a servant's heart and get their fair pay and invest their fair pay in retirement visa mutual funds.

5:51

Again, another thing, we're not even talking about the black hole of waste that is PRT because we only have a yes no vote and a small matching fund of $25 million.

5:59

On the operating budget of $1.25 billion, do we even discuss reductions?

6:03

Do we really need the amount of departments and employees?

6:07

Don't get me started on DHS and the nonprofits.

6:09

On the capital budget, 71 projects is concerning only in the sense of they say this every year.

6:15

Is this a never-ending amount of projects that require uh county expenditure?

6:21

If so, wouldn't a countywide vote on a general obligation package solve this?

6:26

And it allows each of you to put a transformational stamp on county history, then you can pay for it with a direct uh separate millage rate.

6:33

Seems contrary to public uh to representative government when your hands are tied as our counsel on your most important issue, the budget.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Budget███████████████████████████████31%
Public Safety████████████████16%
Education███████████████15%
Workforce Development████████8%
Technology and Innovation██████6%
Court Operations██████6%
Pension Funding████4%
Immigration Policy██2%
Property Tax Assessment██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Allegheny County Council FY2027 Budget Public Hearing

Allegheny County Council held the first of two public hearings on the proposed FY2027 budget on October 21, 2026. The hearing included testimony from two members of the public, followed by presentations from the Community College of Allegheny County (CCAC), the District Attorney's Office, the county administration, and the Controller's Office. No formal votes were taken.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Benjamin Chishark criticized the timing and structure of the budget process, saying hearings should happen earlier and in the community rather than after decisions are made. He said the county is in a "full blown crisis" from structural mismanagement and called for discussion of options such as a general obligation bond package, sales tax changes, millage review, and expanded county services. He also argued that grants, the pension liability, PRT, and capital projects were not receiving sufficient scrutiny.
  • Jack Stonecypher, a Manchester resident, Duquesne law student, and veteran, questioned specific line items in the proposed budget. He noted election officer funding falls from $300,000 to $1,000 and election constable funding from $50,000 to $1,000; road salt funding rises by only $3,000 while fuel and lubricant funding is reduced by almost $250,000; veteran services lose $40,000 for grave markers, flags, and emblems and $30,000 for burial allowances; and training funding is cut by nearly two-thirds for the office defending people who cannot afford an attorney. He also said medical allocations are reduced by $7.5 million across departments and questioned revenue assumptions, especially a hotel tax projection rising to $14 million after the controller's interim report recorded about $756,000, less than 10 percent of a prior projection. He urged council to review the controller's June interim report before approval.

Discussion Items

CCAC Budget Presentation

  • CCAC's president and Vice President Jacobs presented the college's proposed FY2026-27 operating budget of $121,734,500, an increase of about 1.5 percent over the prior year. No tuition or fee increase is proposed. County funding is $36,760,200, including a $33.01 million contribution plus $3.7 million in debt service; state funding is flat at $40 million. The budget is based on 18,686 full-time equivalent students (FTE), a projected 2.5 percent increase.
  • Enrollment data showed fall 2025 headcount of 11,199 as of October 15, which is 647 students above the prior year, and fall FTE of 8,193, exceeding the budgeted goal of 8,109. CCAC reported that 81 percent of students graduate debt-free, the three-year graduation rate is 26.2 percent, and the college has a $2.1 billion regional economic impact. Moody's upgraded CCAC's rating from A3 stable to A3 positive.
  • CCAC highlighted new partnerships with the Kane community living centers and Allegheny County Jail for nursing clinical rotations and a future practical nursing program. Workforce development generated $4.7 million in revenue, exceeding its budgeted $3.4 million.
  • Council members praised CCAC's affordability, enrollment growth, and workforce partnerships. Several asked about faculty compensation and retention. CCAC stated that a faculty compensation study recommended a 10 percent increase, which the college has offered but not yet agreed to; the current budget includes the prior collective bargaining agreement's approximate 3 percent increase. CCAC said a 10 percent increase, if approved, would be absorbed through efficiencies, enrollment growth, and position management rather than by requesting additional county funding.

District Attorney's Office Budget Presentation

  • First Assistant District Attorney Becky Spangler testified that the office remains chronically understaffed in attorneys and support staff. She reported a total staff departure rate of 12.85 percent and an attorney departure rate of 13.84 percent, and said 126 trial attorneys carry approximately 40 to 130 pending cases each while working 50 to 60 hours per week.
  • Spangler said the office's FY2027 budget request was $29,692,409, but the county executive recommended $28,510,474, leaving a shortfall of about $1.18 million, or approximately 4 percent below the request. She argued the office is underfunded despite receiving a proposed 3.14 percent increase over the adopted 2026 budget.
  • She compared funding with the public defender's office, which she said is proposed for a 6.34 percent increase while representing about 50 percent of the cases the DA's office prosecutes. She said underfunding public safety creates risks to victims, defendants, and the community. She also discussed the need for paralegals, reclassification of four legal assistant positions, a new elder abuse unit, and the burden of reviewing body camera, ring camera, and other digital evidence.
  • County Manager John Fournier later disputed the parity argument, saying the public defender's office handles about 70 percent of Court of Common Pleas cases and performs substantially more work, including mental health commitments, probation violations, expungements, and preliminary arraignments. He said per-case costs are about $2,500 for the DA's office and about $1,900 for the public defender, and that the public defender's office receives about $10 million less annually.
  • Several council members questioned why District Attorney Stephen A. Zappala was not present to advocate for the budget, saying the absence undercut the funding request. Other members and the chair defended First Assistant Spangler and noted the DA has been responsive. Councilman Rose noted the DA's office budget has increased by 23 percent since 2023, outpacing inflation, while Spangler said the office has been seriously underfunded for four to five years and struggles to retain attorneys against higher-paying employers.

Administration Budget Presentation

  • County Manager John Fournier and Budget Director Tim Cox presented the county administration's proposed FY2027 budget. The proposal includes no tax increase and increases the operating budget by about $57 million, or 4.7 percent. Drivers include union wage increases of about 4.5 percent, a $10 million bond payment, inflation and tariff effects, jail overtime, sheriff's office fee declines, and specific departmental investments.
  • The administration said it is closing 150 vacant positions, in addition to 35 closed in FY2026, and has negotiated health care changes expected to save about $30 million over four years. It also cited debt refinancing, contract rebidding, HR and IT centralization, and jail population stabilization as cost-control measures.
  • Fournier said real estate tax has been flat or declining for five years due to commercial real estate depression and estimated the county would have about $30 million more if real estate tax had followed an average growth curve. Sales tax and hotel tax revenues are up. The proposed capital budget is $153 million, with $108 million in planned bond issuance, including $33 million for the Schumann Center.
  • The county manager said the court-ordered reassessment is moving forward with an advertised RFP and will be funded through bond funds. He described the pension fund as an existential financial issue, with the county still leaving the study phase and moving toward discussion of solutions. He declined to take a position on a proposed downtown transit revitalization investment district, saying that discussion should occur between the county executive and mayor.
  • Fournier also explained that some Department of Justice grants were declined because their terms would require proactive cooperation with ICE or broad data access without a warrant. He said no grants flowing through the district attorney's office were affected by those decisions.

Controller's Office Budget Presentation

  • Acting Controller Amy Weiss presented the Controller's Office budget request. The office requested about $8.9 million for FY2027, and the administration recommended just under $8.6 million. Weiss said the office removed two administrative positions to stay flat and accepted the recommendation, though it hoped for about $140,000 more based on vacancy assumptions.
  • Weiss highlighted the office's work in FY2025: more than 220,000 vendor payments totaling $1.8 billion, and 128,699 payroll payments totaling $346.7 million. She said the office's peer-reviewed audit work saves the county money, including about $100,000 by auditing federal programs internally, and that 15 hotel audits brought $104,000 back to the county. An audit of contracted services is ongoing.
  • Council members praised the office's transparency and professionalism and asked about the audit cycle, paperless deposit processes, and the banking services project being coordinated with the treasurer's office.

Key Outcomes

  • No votes or formal decisions were made during the hearing.
  • This was the first of two public hearings on the proposed FY2027 budget; the second hearing was expected to take place the following evening.
  • Council members requested follow-up information from presenters, including CCAC workforce and retention data, a breakdown of the DA's requested positions, and historical audit savings from the Controller's Office.
  • County administration and presenters indicated they would continue to answer written questions from council as the budget review process continues.

Meeting Transcript

Good evening. I like to call together the uh public hearing for the proposed twenty twenty-seven budget. Jared or Sarah, may you nod to the members who are here. Physically present at the moment. We have Mr. Bada, Ms. Hiliagi, Mr. Krisbeck, Mr. Rose, Ms. Geiger Schulman, Ms. Medana Emmerling, and Chairman Palmasina. Thank you. Uh good evening. Thank you very much. Who wasn't? Thank you. It's Mr. Adams, he'll be in and okay, good evening all. Tonight is the first of our two public hearings on the twenty twenty-seven proposed budget. We were here from the community college of Allegheny County, the district attorney's office, the administration branch of our county government, and the controller's office. First up is Benjamin Chishark. Do you want to start? Microphone check one, two, one, two. You are good now. Sorry, Mr. Whatever, you're ready. Thank you, Mr. Chair, for moving the budget hearings up. I prefer public engagement take place when you guys and the staff are in the weeds, not after the decisions. Public notice minimum it gets limited participation. I believe you all should use your popularity to get out in the community and have late summer hearings. Mr. Chair, I sit with great concern on the twenty twenty-seven budget. I believe we are in full blown crisis due to regular structural mismanagement. We're not even discussing solutions like compartmentalized spending, uh geobond package, new sales tax, cutting the millage, reviewing the half penny, expanding county services to reduce municipal budgets, or asking for statewide removal of exemption. But I digress. I'm concerned we're not even talking about 1.7 million billion of the 30 billion because you have a simple yes no vote on grants with a contribution of 25 mil. Just because it comes from the state and the federal government. It's misleading and harms public trust. Next. Not even talking in the 30 billion about the pension debacle, which could cost us $100 million, which I hope is found in the regular budget somehow. It's easy to say we support something and then underfund it.

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