Going to call this meeting to order at 6 01 p.m.

So welcome to the historical architecture review board meeting of April 6th, 2026.

Harbers and advisory body to city councils, city council renders the final decision of HARB recommendations.

Under the direction of the uh under the direction of the historic design guidelines, her review covers the general design arrangement, texture, material, and color of a building or structure.

We'll also examine how these factors relate to similar features around your building.

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Staff will introduce and present the proposal through a prepared report which is provided to the applicant and board members for review prior to this evening's meeting.

The applicant can then provide additional context to their proposal before discussion.

Presentations are limited to 30 minutes and comments from any interested party other than the applicant are limited to five minutes.

After the presentation, the board will discuss the merits of the project among themselves, but we'll ask the applicant and staff for relevant information to supplement the discussion.

After the deliberation, Harp will recommend to approve as submitted or approve with conditions, deny with explanation or table the project for further discussion.

The applicant is not present at the meeting, or if information by there's not sufficient, the board may table a project until the next meeting to provide the opportunity for applicants to be present and or supply sufficient information for discussion.

Proposal will only be tabled once.

If the requirements are not satisfied at the following meeting, the form may automatically recommend denial and require the applicant to reapply for a new certificate of appropriateness.

Our recommendations will be forwarded to the next available city council meeting for final resolution.

Once you uh once received, you will then be able to pull additional permits associated with your project.

Okay, let's move on to roll calls.

As I call your name, please respond with present or here, and then your position on the board.

Here is not the record member.

All right.

Um five year building inspector or real estate.

I don't remember building inspector.

Um here, realtor.

Um here chair and representing old Alex.

Alison Scales.

Yeah, here um representing old fair grants.

Bill Hart.

Here, representing Westport.

And Dave Hubert.

Here, vice chair.

Uh yeah, formed.

All right, we'll move on to minutes of the March 2nd, 2026 meeting.

Did everyone have a chance to read?

Yeah.

Any comments or corrections?

There are motion to approve.

By Dave.

All those in favor of approving minutes.

Aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

Great.

All right, I'll move straight into new business J and M rental properties.

So I just want to clarify the JM rental properties.

It's gonna be under Janil as applicant to be as an audit on the record.

Thank you.

Um mind stating your name.

Yeah, Jamille Mahidali.

Cool.

Uh we will begin with staff reading.

Okay.

44 North 12th Street located in the old Allentown Historic District.

It's a three-story brick house, uh circuit 1895 and Queen Anne uh porch style uh building as ornamental uh wood uh detailing around two dormers on Linden Street with a spire on the right corner, um, and a lot of different features.

Um, the project scope or the description of the project is to legalize the installation of a railing along 12th Street and Linden Street, the installation of black aluminum windows with six sash uppers, and the demolition work along.

Sorry, that and double is your work along one in street elevation.

Was that the latest description?

Okay, uh staff observation and comments.

Um the comments are split um and grouped according to the different scope work items.

Staff note the following observations and comments concerning the replaced windows.

Uh more information.

Um sorry, there's a comment in the stack review about more information about the windows.

Um windows.

Thank you.

Yeah, sorry, that was the previous uh version of this.

Thank you.

Um the proposed windows are clad wood windows, which are appropriate for the guidelines.

The previous replacement window wood windows, sorry, the previous replacement windows were one over one windows.

The existing um arched lighted glass windows will remain.

The rear windows appear to be fixed windows with no mutton pattern and two third floor windows up at the front elevation or one over one windows with no mutton pattern.

More information will be helpful to understand why these windows differ from the other proposed windows, which are three over one or six over one.

We have porch railing, the front railing that is currently installed appears to be an in-time replaced previous.

The railings on either side of the porch match this front railing but are taller than the railing previously installed there.

This profile would be appropriate.

Staff note that the current top rail of the porch railing are not in proportion with historic railings or the previous railing.

The top rail should be thicker to provide more depth.

Wood handrails proposed in the application materials.

More information will be helpful to clarify if this railing would be installed at the front porch as well.

Um it did look like it was indicated at the rear of the property.

Per previous HARB records, the previous porch spindles and railing were not original.

The original configuration is seen in the November 1982 HARP file showing a low railing with smooth oval spindle, similarly seen currently at 42 North 12th Street.

In the previous condition, a simple extension was added to increase the height of the railing.

Since there is evidence of the original railing configuration, it would be also appropriate to create a railing with similar oval balusters and a top thick, a thick top rail.

A modified version of this original railing design that would meet code required height would be an appropriate would be appropriate as an alternate design.

The front porch columns.

Photos of the current front porch columns were included in the application package.

A note on the submitted drawings at the porch roof corner indicated that rotted wood is to be replaced in kind at the roof and column capital.

More information will be helpful to understand if that is the intent of the base of the post as well.

All wood elements should be painted.

The rear basement access door.

Changes of streetscape and its solid avoid rate solid versus void ratio, changing its character and the overall appearance along windowed street.

If the work is intended to provide a secondary means of egress from the basement, guideline sections 3.14 provide more information on the configuration and location of that means of egress.

3.14.20 notes to locate secondary egress stairs on non-visible facades whenever possible.

And 3.14.2 to state same proliferate secondary means of egress in a manner that minimizes impacts to the historic building materials.

If basement egress is necessary, the brick should remain intact and egress leading to the rear yard would be more appropriate.

For the rear porch, the current posts and spindles at the rear porch are simple rectangular profiles, except for the engaged posts, which feature a small degree of detailing and should be retained.

The proposed railing and spindles are consistent with the front porch.

Staff recommendation.

More information is needed.

Make a recommendation for the overall application.

For each component of the application, staff recommend the following.

That the proposed aluminum cloud wood windows are more appropriate than the existing vinyl.

More information regarding the differing mountain patterns on the replacement windows would be helpful in the review of those of the proposal.

That the front porch rail railing top rails modified to be of a thicker profile to match the previous railings.

It'll be helpful if the applicant can confirm if the proposed railing is intended for the front porch.

That all components of the railing construction are painted.

Alternatively, the installed railing could be replaced with a painted wood railing with global balusters and a thick top rail that would meet co-required height with an overall design that closely resembles the original configuration.

That the front porch wood column and deteriorated roof element wood roof elements are repaired or replaced in kind to match existing profiles and are painted.

That the brick walls rebuilt to match the original configuration so that the streetscape is re-established as access should be to the rear yard, similar to the current access to the rear porch, and that the rear porch is constructed as submitted.

Thank you.

Staff for that.

Right.

Yeah, I can't have anything to like to add.

Oh so they want the front railing to be thicker than the one we have.

Everything you just heard is recommendation from staff.

We still just need to determine whether we agree with those recommendations or not.

Um but that is the the recommendation I believe with staff is to uh add a thicker left to see the next door property too.

So this is the historic height, and so the recommendation is to continue that historic height and then add something on top so that you can see the historic railing dimensions and the code with something.

I don't know if we can be put that the static information.

Yeah, so quite right.

So alternatively, if the board is okay with the proposed spindle configuration, the top rail that's shown should be more of a handrail similar to what was proposed.

Um so there's a lot to go over here.

Um are there any upfront questions from any board members?

And then we'll pull it apart piece by piece.

Has there been any changes to the design since the last submission?

Okay, just kind of more clarification more clarification on the details is what we've done.

Okay.

No, no, no.

We had a we had a stop work completed after that stop record, but we didn't question issue stop work.

Another department issued it.

There was an issue with the word still being completed, but that was after the fact.

So what's the six by six on here for next to the column?

Yeah, what's proposed within is the six by six wood posed for the rear, yes, uh this is proposed to be a vertical post for the rear, for the not uh we have them up.

I think we should start with windows.

So staff recommends uh approval of the window material uh with confirmation of the button, and I believe we have this is this is what you're planning to put in for windows, correct?

That's correct.

Okay.

Um, and I believe you said the arched window to the left of the chimney is not being replaced.

That's original and staying.

Uh which one all the way up to the left type?

No, the stained glass halfway through.

Oh, yeah, stained glasses stay in our place.

The first floor.

Um, I see no issues with the divided light pattern.

Any other questions or comments from what's it proposed?

Six over one.

Yes.

Or most of them looks like the fourth floor has three over ones to the side, one over one.

I guess then the same.

Yeah, third floor.

Like the rear over ones up here, one over ones here, but then the rear, it looked like the rear.

Yeah, the rear windows is for some review, yeah.

Oh, but they're all double.

They're all gonna be the same design, same windows.

Well, probably we didn't put them in the plans for the rear windows.

I'm not following.

So the rear windows are gonna be the same six over ones that are proposed.

Oh, okay.

Umcluding the smaller window, and the smaller window in the first floor next to that opening.

I see no issues with windows, so are we good to move beyond that?

I saw the same issue I had last week, just it with the top sash, just being a square sash, like the old wooden ones would have had the top, like all solid wood on the inside that follows the contour of the arch.

Like the old wooden ones would have had the top, like all solid wood on the inside that follows the contour of the arch.

And you would see the same amount of wood as you do on the sides going around the top.

It follows right through.

When you put a square sash in it space instead of the rounded sash, it stands out like it's wrong.

I think there was a discussion last time that what was the existing condition?

Was it square windows?

It was square windows inside of uh an R colors.

Thank you.

Right, but this is a replacement window here as well, right?

Uh it been like this.

Since I purchased it.

All right, so it was it was there was a uh um a window replacement in the right, it was done in fact not the original windows and put in the now.

So it's can they continue the same yeah that's if we're gonna bring up the railings not being proper and anybody else punishing it?

That's how it was really like it, but um but with a black window, it would look uh I show you the I mean the thing is that you have the uh the brick work above is arch, so that sticks out a little bit more than they usually wouldn't be extract and show two.

So I mean I think the the question with that is do we have any evidence that would it was historically done different on this property or from surrounding context?

And do we have anything in the guidelines to point to to suggest that it needs to be replaced in that manner?

Well, it's just it's a configuration of the window.

Do we have any evidence that it was historically configured that way on its at what point?

Any evidence?

I'm asking for anything to point to because this isn't about our opinion about pointing for evidence.

Yeah, so and that's how they were always many else.

Okay.

But now you pointed out that the windows were replaced before property.

So we're gonna allow my if we're allowing it we're opening like for like the block should be the same on the other side.

Sure.

Yeah, there we go.

If we're gonna do it, we need to like point out that that's our reasoning areas on the other side.

Not that I disagree with it, so it's compound blocks that's saying this other record of a lot of computers, you know.

So the debate we're having is on the the rounded windows on the third floor, and the question is is there any evidence of his them being placed historically that way?

If we do find out the is and the UV included, then we need to discuss with the property owner whether or not something has been sheep have evidence.

Right here, it's context of the block looks like it was the whole circuit.

It's just the same property or this is the other side of the block.

Oh, the other end of the block, yes, same.

So it's they're all connected as like one thing here.

Uh-huh.

There's a variety of here.

I don't agree, but um or it sounds like minutes to just be pointing at it.

What what are you pointing toward, and what is the argument that you're making that this should be a condition that they put in anybody?

Well, it's my opinion that windows are being replaced, they should be replaced with the proper window.

Defined proper historically accurate.

Okay, are we pointing toward a property on the same flash?

Okay, can we state the property that we are referencing?

Okay, I'm not sure the numbers.

So 24, 26, 20.

Well, 28 has windows to replace the split on.

Um, but the ones that are on the end in particular are rounded off.

Um that would be 24, 26.

Yeah, they still retain the original window.

Okay.

So uh you're making an argument that additional properties on the block have this configuration.

So it's 2426 north 12th street.

And therefore provide context to require that the windows we can take it this way on the third floor.

Strictly that's why they were all made.

Is that a okay?

I'm curious how many member up on the board are feeling simple.

Very strange question, being the least instruction-based person here.

How do you fit a square window in a rounded role?

From the inside it was already it was already framed out for square.

Yes, the inside was always square from original.

It's the sash, the upper part of the sash, instead of the wood just being a straight piece across the top rail, it actually comes down, like the sides follow up to a certain point, and then from there it's solid the rest of the way up solid wood.

So when you look at it from the outside, you see that same like two-inch profile going around that that's exposed, and on the inside, it's blanked out, so you don't see the inside of the framing on the outside.

Yeah, if I don't see it, I don't understand it.

So the rest of the board doesn't agree.

Yeah, you I think you would have to.

I mean, like there are things that you can like like, but you have to point towards it.

Right, exactly.

I'm curious, these are custom windows, correct?

Is it impossible to have them made the polar B I did the last different door?

I did try trust me.

I know it was different.

I think we've had them already where the people had them made with just a blank does the actual window it has a curve, the actual frame of the window you have to do.

Yeah, that's not how these originally were.

Is this a sash that can be curved?

What's that?

Are you saying it's a sash that can be added to the window to curve it?

You could add the molding from outside to cover they they made something that applied over the glass to make it to fill it out.

Because like if you just put a window, a square window in there, there's actually a whole like a space all the way around.

You could like stick your fingers up in there, like you're probably gonna get B's instead of you know making this in there, whatever anything can happen in there, but you you can also see up in there, that's not how they were originally made.

When the SAG program grants were going on, yeah, they were making new windows, basically.

Um they must have been getting somewhere um because those were um they weren't old windows, they were actually producing new windows for that.

Yeah, no workshop can make them.

Uh even the previous year was approved with a square windows in the circle thing.

Well, is that it was approved from the historical or square window?

I believe like 15 years ago, right?

I'm correct.

You change the windows to vinyl while ago on the them to be a square on this property?

I don't think I mean assuming like everybody came to a vinyl window, you don't have any permit to change those vinyl windows.

Yeah, I don't have evidence, but I highly doubt it previous hard for the vinyl.

Last meeting, I believe I could understand it was approval for square windows in there.

We did discuss at the last meeting, and that's why I'm bringing it on here to hear the temperament of the board.

We did not have staff comments recommending this.

Yeah, um, they feel strongly about this.

I believe Alex I'm hearing supported this as well.

Um there is context on the block.

Uh and so we can move toward approval with that condition and have the property owner potentially have to look for other windows.

Um are there?

Uh three three or four, depending on how you count that side window.

I mean, it looks like all the other windows we're okay with, and it's just this curve on the start three or four.

Impossible to go find them in aluminum windows with that curve.

How do you gonna take the size of that curve?

Alex, you kind of lean in on if you got his little context.

It's not impossible, like this, like something after the outside here.

Like what would people do with woodwork?

It's like you can't put like a like around pegging to the square hole.

Sure.

Um I feel like there's if we're going to be I feel like we have to stick with the original.

Well, and RJ, what's your where are you?

Where's your temperature?

That wasn't replaced yet, or was it this may be an old picture?

That's it.

This one's so blurry I can't see it.

Well, 24, that's not my perspective is that I I can accept either can either condition because I don't have the historic on this property.

Um I do agree that the there being like a hole there is an issue, and I keep wondering if there's like a filler, like you know, like a faux mullion or one to put along that edge just so that there's no hole.

Um to return to like that the glass window part, right?

If you want some sort of yeah, um, that's as opposed to just building an entirely arched new custom window.

Yeah, it's kind of a meeting in the middle, right?

Well, the whole window is an arch, it's just a sash, the upper sash.

Well, I think the challenge was the applicant was unable to source what you're describing.

So what the guidelines, at least just you know, doing the prep work for chapter one today.

Um, you know, it's it seemed to guide us towards if it's if you can't find you know original materials, but you can create an original look, then that would be acceptable.

So what can we do to get as close to an original look, even if we're using some material trickery to get there?

I agree that could be an acceptable solution.

At least in this case, if if the wood windows were still there, oh and they wanted to replace yeah, that's that first uh threshold of preserving the original would definitely take resident here, but we don't have that here.

Well, you do on this window, this double one here.

That's not original wood.

Yeah.

Oh no wait.

Well, this isn't what I'm looking at.

Yeah, it was that well, I don't know.

This is the picture that's in my thing here.

All I got to work with.

What do you think?

Unless it was replacing the yeah, uh you got down.

Oh, here we go.

Oh, so that's wait.

Why is it black now?

Well, that's the uh the new color is it's these black alumni.

Is it replaced?

The applicant replaced the windows with black aluminum clad wood.

So it did have wood windows when he replaced it with the black.

I thought it was a mix of windows.

I believe it was there were some wood windows, but I think there were vinyl replacement windows.

But uh yeah, but I'm talking about the this one in particular.

The ones in the arch were vinyl.

So it's from 2024, that's only two years ago.

It's now that's yeah.

And then this one was from perfect.

Yeah.

Is that viral?

But I mean it was an arch window that's actually original.

It didn't have the um you get uh this resolution for not great on this.

Yeah, this is Google BAPS here.

So exactly for we were close to a compromise.

Did we draft the compromise?

I mean, we can give um we could we can have a condition that it be either or um replacement would or uh to match the arch.

I mean, we can give um we can we can have a condition that it be either or um replacement wood or uh to match the architect the compromise.

So what does it look like with building this arch?

You put it in the the new window and then just put a like a thin like one-inch frame kind of superimposed over top of it the way it looks plus thinking to both molding around the molding around outside the nice as long as it's um like double to meet the glass.

That's not exposed enough to glass.

Putting a molding on like that would from a distance that would make it look right with one.

I know Dave, I know it's not the perfect construction method, but if we're talking about just the stylistic view of that.

It depends how it's done.

I don't know how you would do it, that it would last as well.

Well, and if it looks good and it can be done and it could be replaced also.

Right.

And so we just need to put that in specific language in the conditions that they can follow to meet that.

And so I I believe that is I don't know, beveled to meet the glass, or what the what the appropriate language should be.

Um to meet the glass.

Or more maybe if I go find like six inch giving better.

Just to match the rest of it.

I mean, it's a good idea, given you really like this.

I'm just trying to picture it in my head how it can be done that it would that it would look good.

I mean, I'm I'm all for a solution to it.

It's gonna go lower from the top a little bit.

Yeah, it has to have the same um the turn thing.

Yeah, you have the same amount of wood showing as it goes around that curve.

But you go write in the tub of the window, like in the corner, you cannot just pull one square one, you have to put a little one the way you want it to turn it.

Yeah, and we could write, you know, uh replicating the full appearance of the frame as detected.

Right.

I I can do that, I think that's acceptable.

And that being the case, and I'm getting a little bit technical, but would it really not be necessary for it to the depth of it to go all the way back to the glass?

Like it could be fairly thin.

But this is how the original stash would have looked.

So like if you looked at it from inside, that's exactly what you would see.

And then of course on the outside, it would be all brick in front of that curve part.

I don't know.

Uh I think you're gonna have a space about this one.

I think the applicant has a pretty good idea of what this needs to look like on the outside.

Yeah, yeah.

Now, how about a piece of um PVC?

You didn't buy it in the sheets, they have different thicknesses, so they have like a quarter inch and three-eighths half inch.

If you cut it to fit in that square, right?

Cut it to that curve and like adhere it to the glass somehow.

So that from the outside that that line would just continue right around.

Yep.

I think we can all right.

Yeah, so the conditioning is to be you know, replicating the full curved appearance as defected in previously.

And uh also and cut to meet the glass for removing all gaps.

And I believe that is for two reasons.

One aesthetic because we need a preserve if you don't want to.

One thing they didn't know any better, and um they were just uh going to Home Depot and so all that's they don't make those this way.

You know, because you gotta go a lot of details and go around.

I know how okay.

Okay, so that's so yeah, somehow, somehow we're so yes, we're gonna power the windows uh with the only added condition be that the uh four arched windows have uh form to be a specify material.

Well, PBC is made to hold up outdoors.

You just gotta find the right correct adhesive to find it to approve PPC.

Right.

Well, but it's yeah, that's more precedent setting.

What else can we put there?

I mean it's like yeah, but that's not gonna hold up because the rest of the window is gonna be clad in aluminum, so that's not gonna change as it weathers.

Can it match the turn?

So are we saying we're not specifying material?

I would not specify material and put PVC in there.

It's gonna look like he uses PVC, I'd be adding dictated.

Or okay.

I am hearing two different arguments at the same time for nothing day.

Right.

We need to write something down.

I would just say that like be silent on the material, because that could be precedent setting, but just that um the window casing would need to be fabricated and adding added on the upper portion of the arched windows to replicate the um the original reveal of the windows.

But it's gotta be made out of a material, it's gonna last as long as the sash is gonna last.

You know, like it's aluminum clad, so that's gonna last pretty long.

So just say of a durable material, like I would just say be silent on the material then.

Because if it was just wood, it's not gonna last.

No, but if the thing falls apart, then it can be rerouted.

Yeah, but who's gonna actually do that?

Then we add durable as approved by staff.

Yeah, can we go with that?

Yeah, I think staff gonna approve bone core.

No, no, okay, great.

Can we do approved by staff under the side?

Great.

It's not mine, is it's everybody's a decision that someone needs to be written into a document.

Okay.

Um window casing is custom fabricated to appearance.

Removing all gaps um between the the glass and this material.

Can I use aluminum?

Yeah.

Preferably.

Yeah, I don't know how you would do it.

Uh probably I could use, you know, when decab the windows, like a like a bender, like take it.

Yeah, but it has to wrap around the I mean we'll be having the wood edge.

Do you know how to work with aluminum in such a way you do that?

Not me, I'm gonna hire somebody to have like uh the wood that would do it.

But there isn't like you can use that we we use it on roofing to when you have to do a curve on the roofing machine.

Exactly.

And it runs through that machine and it'll a little bit at a dependent.

As a proof by staff.

So if you find a fabricator that works at aluminum, great.

I think I'm gonna do aluminum because I would like to probably do all over this too.

That's fine with you guys.

Uh the holding or no.

The frame to save the wood in there right now by the edges of the windows.

Some of them is already at aluminum if you look at the right side.

I bent it.

I would like to have it white again.

That's okay with you guys.

I thought we were building or not replacing full.

Like maybe the bottom of the windows.

And the shells and the jam.

So the aluminum right now.

Okay, the cells are capped with the recap the whole windows.

So no.

Is that what's currently being proposed?

Or we just added that in the video.

Oh, that's how it is right now.

Never mind, it's okay.

Yeah, I don't think we can add one in the future.

Yeah.

All right.

So AJ, I think we're already on that.

Yeah.

So what's next?

The front porch railing.

Sure, front now.

Going down the list, baby.

Don't want to.

So um we don't.

I mean, we do have an historic photo of railings.

Staff recommends that the uh chosen spindles may be appropriate but need a larger cap on them.

I I believe we need to debate first whether the proposed spindles are appropriate and this one's original.

Right.

That's good.

I have to wonder if like there's a that handrail is too small for the proposed.

I do know the other side of the again for the record, because someone has to take minutes of this.

Let's who's got comments.

So my comment is I don't think there's any remaining block precedent with these railings.

And if staff says that they're approved or will be approved, I'm okay with them.

Okay.

It looks it from the from the images of the rest of the block, it looks like it's a it's a mismatch uh a mismatch of but the massing uh of the the top rail here is too much.

So right, so if we need we need to thicken up the rail file, I guess I'm talking about the the ballasters and all the balustrass and the bottom rail.

Yeah, I think I'm fine.

She I think Amy, you were saying that everything looks good except the top like the the top rail, right?

So the staff recommendation is that the front porch railing top rail is modified to be of a thicker profile to match the previous railings.

Um that all components of the railing are constructed and painted or railing construction are painted, and alternatively the installed railing could be replaced with painted wood railing with oval ballusters and a thick top rail that would meet code required height with an overall design that closely resembles the original configuration.

So uh there's no comment on the so I'm fine with that as it is.

I don't feel a need to I personally don't feel the need to modify that further.

Yes, I agree with the stat recommended condition.

Any other comments?

Yeah, wonderful.

All right.

Um next.

Um front porch wood column and periodic wood roof elements are repaired, replaced and kind of match existing profiles and are painted.

Um space was already replaced.

That's just not the original base.

Um if they just replicate what they have there now.

Yeah, isn't that is that what's being proposed?

Yeah, so the staff recommendation is agreed to by the applicant.

Do we have anything to add to that?

Great.

Um basement door, you know.

Uh next we have that the brick wall is rebuilt to manage the original configuration.

Okay, so this is the rear door.

All right.

The rear door configuration.

This is interesting.

I spent way too much time just like wandering around looking at basements.

There are like historic, you know, grocer's doors that are vertically oriented in this neighborhood.

I don't know if I'd recommend that uh in this case.

Staff is recommending that the brick walls rebuilt and that the doors facing the rear.

So currently you could come from the the rear path, like driveway path or whatever, and then there's a rear porch door at the first floor.

Like can the basement door come up and then the north go out rather than exiting the sidewalk.

I would presume you're putting a unit on that basement.

And so it wants you won't have its own egress right there, right?

You mean like to put a door and as it as it is right now, it did you have to you can as you take the wall down the brick wall, right?

So you could have access that like that lower just exit instead of going through the backyard.

Yeah.

And so is that entrance like a formal front entrance to a unit?

Is that is that the egress hardware unit, or is it just the basements?

Basement access.

Oh, it's not like its own separate apartment.

Yeah, no, it's uh uh basement basement.

Yeah, service okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

I like I think makes it easy to have a sidewalk access, but it does disrupt the wall line.

I think we have to I I agree with the staff recommendation of just breaking that back up and having the exit to the rear to the rear yard.

It's just a wall there, right at the back.

Yeah, it's just a wall there.

It's not like it's like poor concrete or anything like that, making it too impossible to remove.

Like a retaining wall.

It's probably just cut that thing out and re-path, yeah.

I think here, Patty, there's a yeah, I see right here.

And then you've got this, but then you've got the retaining wall here.

You've got his full tab here.

Is it possible to do that?

That's what I'm I was gonna ask.

So Patty, your your question is it looks like it's just a big giant block of cement there.

Is it possible to make that exit and egress, or does it have to come out the side?

That's what I'm trying to understand for staff recommendation.

Like if it were to be reconfigured to go out the back, what happens to the porch above it?

There is no porch above it.

Not anymore.

There was sometimes there's still uh there's still a first floor, like above this floor.

You got a support.

Something around the corner entrance.

They made the floor hinge that you like it was like a door.

You will lift door, like lift it up.

If they wanted it for protection, yeah.

Well, and that's what I was kind of suggesting.

Oh, what if you put a door there?

So don't break it back up, allow that exit to the sidewall, it's a sidewalk, but just put a door there.

That's kind of what I was suggesting.

And then it maintains the wall line, right?

In the neighborhood, especially because it isn't a unit entrance.

It's it's it's an alternate basement egress.

They're like where they opened up face here and turn it.

Yeah, right.

Linden.

It's not ball enough.

You'd have to get down.

You can make it tall enough.

Make it tall enough.

Like a gate almost double basement.

Yeah.

But they there are some more vertically oriented ones in the neighborhood that could make sense here, just like that.

Um look good.

That's only like I don't like that look, but it does exist.

I was telling to do like a six-band on wood door on the brick or just raise just raised the correct.

Do you frame it out?

Your door's only gonna be like four feet high.

Well, there's only there's already a door that's four foot high in front of Zelda.

Because in one point in life, you that's how it was.

And so to Patty's point, if the in the condition, right?

So imagine he floats off this wall again.

I don't believe there's enough space to put steps up to that parking level from that door.

Um, what was originally happening here?

Uh originally it was the interest in there for the basement with the old door.

And with the time being, I don't know how what's going on, what they did, they build it, and when I purchased the house, I was using the first window of the basement in Linden.

The window that we make a was there a door there.

No, it was a plywood, just like open the plywood.

You still have the hintels here.

Yeah, it was the steps.

And that's what I'm trying to understand because it does look like the bricks from before his reconstruction aren't original.

And so I'm curious what originally was there.

Even then Brandon has a pictures of that.

The Google Street View, and it looked like there was a lot of maybe like water coming down because Google Street Views look the color of the brick was a lot more consistent, and then it looked like it might have been repointed at one point, and then there was a lot of efflorescence, so there's a discoloration that seemed to be evolving over time.

But I don't I don't know if there was a replacement at some point, but the way that it's too thin looked very consistent, but it seemed like there might be some water damage similar to towards the front of the building along the um the down spot line, there's some discoloration in the brick.

I do have a question though about with it being open like that now.

Is there a drain or something at the bottom of those steps?

In the basement.

But in the basement, but not at the steps door.

And the steps.

Okay.

And uh I think Brandon has a picture for the door he was there before I replace it.

I could tell the old door one point he was just being open, you're getting away.

I know it's not the problem because we have a loof, but it's collecting all the dirt or the trash, you know, every day uh goes sleepable and I mean I don't think it's a no-brainer because there's even an egress, right?

So there's but there was a stairway there before.

Was there?

Yes, it said it was facing the parking lot.

Yes.

Inside.

Oh, it's not the porch.

I don't think there was anything.

I don't think it was anything, it was just a wall, right?

To the basement?

Yeah, no, it was a door.

Where did the steps went up in the porch that was on the door?

No, it wasn't no bulge.

That brick wall is not original in one point, they build that wall.

You want just to go down to the left to the basement.

And that's what I I would believe.

Um, and so I'm appreciating what was drawn on these these proposed drawings.

Um that's why I wish we had an historic photo to look at.

Um I can't get it to go back any further for some reason.

Um there it is.

For what's the reason why I got to see more dates won't let me do anything down the Y we did look at it, and we can put a door in there, it might kind of raise the brick up high enough that we can get a little bit of a roof cover, but I basically have roof cover above the drawing there.

Yeah, I mean, um so if there has to be egress there, we have to have egress there, but um and it I struggle to believe that there wasn't at some point bricked over.

That brick does not look original, but I don't see I mean where's the same what the context is.

I see like re-read job actually, but this is underneath the rear porch, right?

Like that so there is a notable vertical line here separating this from the rest of the structure.

And so the proposed solution for this egress makes visual sense.

There's visual continuity.

The actual door that goes there is uh is a question.

I don't see a door proposer if you were just proposing it from the way.

Uh well, I give it to branding the door six banner.

Yeah, there's talking about you talking about the door that's maybe a lot of things.

No, no, the door outside in the sidewalk.

Oh, yeah.

A lot like the 80s.

Sorry.

Is there a door proposed for Linden?

Okay.

And in my plan to show it, uh, it has a door with a little roof fixed by the uh wood door.

I think I think we showed a six-panel door on there.

We just showed it.

There's like a door, but it's a doorway, but it's intended to be a door, I guess.

Yeah, what about the brick a little higher in the right and lift to the door?

I want to have a door in Linden.

And we're getting dangerously close to designing for the bench that we might need to table something here.

Uh we haven't told it.

So it was a really application, but doesn't go from last year.

And I believe we're we're we're close, but I'm not understanding.

What was the reason that we weren't going back to the original brick wall uh egress?

How do we have egress to the basement?

It's too high up.

Was using the window.

I think I have a picture of it.

I'm just being there.

It's like space can have there to get steps up, and it's gonna be like way out in the backyard.

But does that otherwise that's not a historic beat?

That's my question.

Well, you don't need any egress.

What is in a lot of cases?

I don't have egress in my basement.

Well, you have to have one now, of course.

So only if you're using it for like a bedroom or certain other um uses, but not generally, you don't need one.

This is where towards the front of the house.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was just a window.

Yeah.

So looking at what was opened up in that rear porch element, there does appear to be somewhat of a historic step down there.

Um I don't know where that came from or what the history of it is, but I would not be surprised if there was some form of historic door there because the bricks that were do not appear to be original bricks to me.

So it's kind of left with open it.

Okay, there's wall right here that's stuccoed that you know that when you go straight in.

Was that a brick wall when you opened this up?

Oh, I don't know.

No, no, no.

I don't remember honestly with that one.

Well, why was there a wall there?

If it's it was a wall, it was a wall there because it was in one point that's the interest for the basement.

I don't know what that's hung here.

And that we just don't know which way it went.

Right.

And I I would believe that it went up steps to Linden, like is being proposed, but I see no evidence of what it historically was.

We're going back to Google on 2008, but there's a lot of history before Google started taking pictures.

Um, like I get the impression that this door was moved a few decades ago.

Um so I'm trying to find historic context in the neighborhood for what that might have been.

Uh sort of to dovetail with that argument, like what is the violation of having a door discharge onto Linden Street.

There were two um points that were brought out in the staff review, which I don't really think apply.

There was 3.14.20, and that says locate fire escapes, secondary egress stairs, and similar additions on non-visible facades wherever possible.

I don't see this as in an addition, like a you know, uh steps coming down from the upstairs or a fire escape or something.

So I I really don't think that that provision applies to what this exactly is.

Um and it's also not an addition.

And the other um the other section that was cited is 3142, which says incorporate secondary means of egress in a manner that minimizes impacts to the historic building and materials.

That I guess applies because it is a secondary means of egress, but this complies with that because they're not using the the historic part of the building, they're using that to your point, AJ.

The um if you're they're going past the vertical line of the original building to put that secondary means of egress in.

So wherever they discharge it, whether they discharge it out the back or they discharge it out.

Wyndon Street, they're they're certainly complying with that provision.

So I would find that what's proposed complies with 3142 thing, and I would agree, depending on whatever is there.

That's what I'm saying.

So the configuration is one question, and the the materials of uh what fills that space is a proposed door.

And so configuration to your point.

Um I believe is is correct.

I see evidence of that instructor movement.

It would make sense to me that this structure when originally built had a um neighboring row to be there to the west, and therefore they would have uh changed that configuration.

Do we have the sandboard map from them?

Um I just don't know what that door would be used in the six panel wood door.

Wood door, yeah, with no light.

Uh no light, six panels, solid door.

Yeah, I don't know if that means no windows.

No, right.

Right.

I'm not suggesting a window, I just don't know if the whole configuration makes sense here.

Ums from the board on the proposed door that was just shown.

If we if we went move forward with this configuration, the door facing Link the door that we're seeing.

Wait, why are we putting the door facing Linda?

Because that's where the entrance is being proposed to move to.

So they're gonna put a flooring above it then, or yeah.

Um, and so uh feel like we're inching closer toward tabling to find what the approach solution uses door for anything except like if there was a fire, it's a way to get out, right?

That that would be about no, it's a full height door, but it's not not here.

But the proposal in the in no the proposal in the drawings is to not have decking above this door, right?

If there's gonna go higher, it's higher.

So full door 82 inches.

How high is that the bottom that lintel there on that window?

It's uh right under the window, you give me the full height of the door 82 inches.

Do we have a uh a drawing of this?

Yes, yeah.

That was an else.

Yeah, no, it's in your side view.

And so you see here the door is full height, and then here's the back elevation.

So where the the door height is.

What material is that meant?

Uh uh.

Yeah, where's the material about the bricking?

This this material.

Oh, the roof.

Uh like um we have some uh some like some little roof wrappers there with a wood trim on it, and then a roof roofing material on top of it.

Make a make basic makeup enclosed roofed doorway.

Reconstruct to create closure with roof or basement access.

And so there are drawings here that are proposed.

I I can get behind that this is unique configuration.

Um, but this is a uh I don't believe we're creating uh I don't see the formal evidence that this never existed this way.

Um I just don't know the appropriate materials and doors to frame it out because this is such a visible entrance, and I think that's why we're debating it so highly.

This is very visible from Linden.

And so I wish I had some context to point to of what that door should look like because the proposed six-panel door well, I don't see any any context that we make.

Uh there's there's some other doors in like that doesn't even relate to anything else on this property.

Which one allowed through the historical uh I believe I did send you the six-final wooden door.

Yeah, I gave you the uh all the approved paneling doors are more appropriate than the six-panel door, that would be more the time period.

Oh, oh, okay.

It's not the same proportions, right?

So the historic doors are more proportionally vertical than the proposed door.

So that's kind of the issue.

I think if if you wanted this door height, it would need to be a narrower door.

Yeah, um, and that smaller, narrower door is all over Allentown because Allentown residents love complaining how they can't get through those narrow doors.

Um yeah, it's it's a different proportion.

Um I was gonna say there are a couple full-size iron gates floating around the district.

Is there a way that you can possibly square off navigate there?

That is a reasonable solution.

Are you keeping the interior door?

Uh interior.

So the one on the sidewalk.

The proposal is uh from Alex is to consider instead of putting a door facing window, which is like gate facing it to get to that interior space.

Something like this.

Yeah, uh I don't that's a weird configuration there, but yes, but yeah, something like that.

Um see if I can find some what a sort of thing.

Yeah, I think that's a that's it fits stylistically with the purpose also.

Thank you, Alex.

That was the thing.

Well, I mean I don't know if we can just put a condition to put a gate there right now today, though.

So I could do a gate too.

But I'm I'm concerned that we might need to table it to find a specific gate to put it there, but I believe that can be the solution.

Could we have it that he can try to find the door and also look at the gate as an alternative?

Sure, but I'm a little less comfortable just letting that be approved by staff because there's so many stylistic issues there.

We have tabled this a lot though.

I mean, this is what the third or fourth time he's had to come in.

Well, so you did a lot lots of pre-reviews.

We haven't officially tabled it yet.

So we would have this went in front of the board like two years, like a year and a half ago.

Went in front of the board twice and then it got denied any through.

Second, we're in front of the board.

We didn't go in front of the board, we had pre-application meeting.

Okay.

This is the official first meeting.

So it can be tabled one time.

We'd have to switch out, you know, everything's and I something like that.

I believe if we are trying to move this forward.

Yes, this time.

Yes, we we really want this to happen.

Yes.

Gonna bring the design for the door for branding, so we don't know how to do another meeting.

Um and that's what we're debating.

Just like just like with the um the window material, we can say as approved by staff, if it's something that is uh relatively approved.

Um I think we could do that if we have like a similar gate we could point to say uh a gate uh meaning or a character in the marsh or whatever, but we don't have that gate.

And so that's where I'm concerned that we might need to table it one more time to find whatever this if proposed.

I mean, that gate is gonna be custom made, so whatever to work with the historic, I'm gonna customize it.

Right.

Any design of all them definitely error appropriate design.

Yeah.

Well, I know there's a couple down the A Street.

Ron, would that need a railing around the top of it if it was built up like that?

Uh that era of houses was like older ones.

That's a continuation of the porch that over this area where it's built up higher.

Would that be the railing up there then?

Okay, like if there's access to in that style.

Well, it's not showing any railing at all.

Right.

That roof would be actually a higher it's a roof.

By how much?

Not a patio.

Uh exactly.

I think probably about 30 inches.

Oh, okay.

It looks like it aligns with the uh windows.

Well windows.

Yeah, scaling off here is the already there.

Yeah, sure.

I got little more than two feet.

Try to find it.

From the like the porch deck height.

Right there.

And so to that question, I do think a railing is on the steps coming down from the back door.

Yeah, actually roof there, so you have to say something.

Yeah, fall through the roof.

And not across the roof down, you'd have it.

Okay, so it's not seen that properties, but it was never that there was a little bit of a roof.

Yeah, so no roof there, but there's a railing or something.

Side door.

Yeah, basic reason it's like a man high gate like that.

I wonder if there's something like that out there.

Okay, time out too many conversations.

Patty and Patty and Rob, did you just make a point?

No.

Okay.

Alex, did you find a historic gate?

Uh yeah, it's it's over in Fairgrounds, but like something like this where it's like a man height.

It's it's not like really short and stubby or something.

Alex do we have an address?

Uh that would be 616 or 6'11 Allen.

I know there's a few of those on the side streets in the old Allentown, too.

But that's what I 616 Allen?

6'11.

6'11 Allen Street.

So that would have been about the same period, about 1890 or so.

Going down Allen.

Would that be uh a gate of three-quarter full door height?

Yeah.

Minimum three-quarter.

Then from the Linden Street side, all you would see is brick and this gate, correct?

And of course, if you're faster and drip edge, whatever for the roof.

That's correct.

So we we wouldn't see this concrete edge over.

Yeah, because it'd be inside.

Well, you'd see it through the um gate if the gate was there if there if it's not a solid door.

Yeah, right, right.

I'm just like beyond the gate.

Beyond the gate, yeah.

So based on that, would it would a door be more appropriate to conceal the stucco?

I don't know.

No.

I think I like the gate idea because that totally makes sense.

A door's not gonna hold up it under that exposure there.

Especially on a wood door.

So I'm writing something that uh custom gate minimum three-quarter door height.

Uh I found in local historic inventory or custom fabricated to match historic gates similar to 616 Allen Street be installed in the location as approved by staff.

Would we be okay with that?

Or do we need to okay?

Good.

Fine.

Maybe they could find one and adjust the opening of the the doorway to match the gate.

Uh you could save a lot of money if you can find a salvage one.

Yeah.

Porch.

It's 11 street.

All right, rear porch.

That was the last area.

So staff record another one.

That's an old downtown.

The rear porch is constructed as the middle north.

Can we agree with staff on that?

Or is there a I'm good?

Yeah.

Okay.

Rob, any opposition?

No issues.

We're good.

Okay.

Um, the only thing I didn't see on the proposed drawings for that rear porch is a railing coming from the back door down the back steps.

Is that something being proposed?

Oh, does it exist currently?

It's just not on the drawings.

No, it doesn't exist from the second floor.

Yeah, yeah, from the I guess first floor, elevated first floor down to that parking lot.

Oh, there would need to be like a hand railing on those steps.

It does have railing.

It exists.

Yeah.

Because that to the question of whether there needs to be a porch railing around that roof, it's a no, but that railing should block access for someone combining on it.

Yeah.

Well, you have to climb over the railing and then we're street.

Does that mean we're we're close to a motion for approval with conditions?

We don't.

All right.

Anything else need to be brought up?

Any comments from the room?

Alan?

Okay.

Uh just as far as that whole gate thing that I found one old Allentown.

It's uh 441 North 11th Street.

Just so there's precedence of being an old.

Where is that just about the two?

That's uh right on the other side of the cemetery.

Oh, no.

Oh, Alan.

Okay.

Well, Liberty.

441 North 11.

Okay.

I guess I'm saying it.

All right.

Only thing I'm going to ask is what are you planning to do with the um the front porch, the cylindrical.

You're gonna repair that then call them.

Uh yeah, I'm gonna move on.

Yeah.

Did we agree to allow the staff recommendation for French port railing be of either height be allowable?

As long as it's a thicker top.

I think we have to for code, it's got to be the 36-inch height, you know, it can't be that okay, lower height.

Well, staff allows the staff is suggesting either do that higher one or install it at a lower level with a an addition.

Like a little stubby one right above it.

Um, I don't feel that's necessary if that's not what they're proposing, but should we leave that condition to allow it to happen?

No, because I don't think they even want to go that route.

I think they just want to do that.

They have they already proposed the 36-inch ballasters.

So just let me the only reason I think it's really debatable here is because the property immediately south has that lower railing.

And yeah, that would be notable, but we don't feel that's necessary.

Great.

All right.

Um I move to approve with a lot of conditions.

The application presented on 4626 for the legalization of windows, railings, and rear porch work at 44 North 12th Street with the following conditions agreed to by the applicant.

Uh that the proposed aluminum clad wood windows are more appropriate than existing vinyl.

Oh the the approved wood clad windows are appropriate.

Uh, but that window window casing is custom fabricated to map original curved elements on the four uh curved windows, two on the third floor, two on the second floor, um, and are made up of a durable material approved by staff, uh, and are fabricated to remove all gaps um between the glass and exterior elements.

Anything else for that condition?

No.

Um that the front porch railing top rail is modified to be a thicker profile to match previous railings.

Um anything need to be added to that condition.

Okay.

So um all wood elements should be painted.

That all right, yeah.

Uh and be made of wood and all wood elements should be painted.

Uh that the front porch wood column and deteriorated wood roof elements are repaired or replaced in kind to match existing profiles.

Um the rear egress is constructed as submitted, and the new means of egress from Linden Street be fitted with a custom gate minimum three-quarters door height, either uh found in historic Allentown inventory or custom built to match uh Allentown historic examples.

Uh one example could be 441, one local example being 441 North 11th Street.

And that the rear port is constructed as submitted.

Yes.

Okay.

Uh I find compliance with the following sections of guidelines for historic districts, chapter three, section 3.5, windows, section 3.7 porches and steps.

Um section 3.14 accessibility and code required work.

And find that there are circumstances unique to this property.

Um allowing for this rear egress door to be constructed.

It's unique configuration.

Definitely motion.

That was the second fill up.

All those in favor of approved with conditions.

All those opposed.

Thank you so much.

Looking forward to this.

Appreciate your patience.

No.

Thank you, guys.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Really good.

I had to look at it.

I see the house every day as I'm running for the bus on 12th Street.

That was from material for the windows as soon as possible.

Oh yeah, you can do it.

So I'm going to make you guys have that too.

What do we got, Neil?

That concludes 4412th Street.

We're going on to 334 North 9th Street.

Um mind stating your name and then out of the spirit.

Uh Neil Melcher from Melcher Brothers Masonry working on 334 North 9th Street.

Wonderful.

Thank you.

Welcome back.

We'll begin with the staff reading.

334 North Ninth Street's located in the old Allenton historic district.

It's a three-story brick row home and cleaning in uh house with East Lake influences.

The proposed project is to repair deteriorating brick by demolition with damaged units and replace with original materials and original building methods with modern wall ties.

Um staff observation and comments.

The proposed work is for the repair of the primary facade facing north 9th Street due to extensive water and structural damage related to improper mortar material.

Stainless steel heli beam bars are proposed to be installed to provide structural support for the wall.

Existing front porch walls currently painted brick, it's currently painted brick.

It is unclear if this area is included in the scope of work and if the paint is intended to remain or be removed.

Staff recommend approval with the following conditions.

Correct.

Yeah, okay.

So that's a question from staff.

Uh the bottom level painting.

Yeah, so repair.

No, that's not being touched.

We're only touching right above where the um the arches are.

That's where the damage is coming in from.

And all the other non-combined elements, the asphalt roof, the windows, nothing's being touched.

No we're purely talking about bricks here.

Yeah, we're just doing the brick work because that's where the water is coming in to the home, unfortunately.

So it's above the porches.

Yeah, so what the job scope is, we're actually gonna put like to cover his roof.

We're gonna put down plywood before we start setting up our scaffold and stuff, and we're gonna shore off underneath with some four by fours just to hold the weight up if we're working up there, but none of that brickwork underneath is getting touched because it's actually not in bad condition.

It's just the top layer was repointed with a type S, which was the wrong mortar to repoint that, which is why the bricks are actually decaying.

Like in person, you can see that the faces of the brick are falling apart because it's the wrong mortar.

They can't the mortar is too strong for the brick, and there's soft clay.

So the replacement brick we're gonna use is a 53 DD Glengarry, which is built almost to what the original prospect is, softer clay brick, but you can use a type S mortar, but we won't use type S on this because the surrounding brick are all line-based mortar.

So most likely behind that wall is another course of brick.

So if we were to use a type S, we'd be damaging the brick inside of there.

So that's what we have to use a line-based, and it was recommended to repoint the whole home in line-based mortar, but the cut the client only wanted to focus on what needed to get addressed.

So it was a uh contract recommendation because the other sides of the building, you can see that it is pointed in type S, and that's what's damaging the integrity of the building.

But okay.

I appreciate that point of order.

I don't believe you wrote the set recommendations.

Uh I just want to make sure that that's on the record.

So separate wind approval with two conditions.

Sorry.

Um, that the brick bond matches the existing configuration, and that product information for the Heli Beam system is submitted to staff for record with notes about spacing and quantity of the bars throughout the wall.

So brick bond matching existing configuration.

I assume that's no issue for you.

Yeah.

The only the only thing I will say about the brick bond.

If you can get a picture zoom in right in that middle section there, I guess it's blurry.

There's another picture he had.

Yeah, there's there's right on that left side down there.

You see, there's a stack bond course.

That won't be that's not original.

Somebody came in and tried to patch in the brickwork there.

Yeah.

So that all that's getting tore out and get like from the bottom of that flashing is getting relaid up.

That whole middle section is getting redone.

But we are going to do the same corbelling that corbels out, and we're gonna do the same archway.

And there's actually a special brick that's in the middle, that middle course.

That brick.

Those are getting reused.

So it's not gonna be regular brick.

We're gonna take those out and reuse them because it's original to the home.

And I can't find any of those anywhere.

So that's what I was gonna say.

You're never gonna find that.

No, but there are other bricks we can reuse because they're just regular bricks, but that middle course is special.

Is that it's gotta be brick or some sort of terracotta, but that's getting reused as well.

Are you going to add a steel lintel or you're just gonna replace it in kind, kind of how it is?

I'm gonna replace it in kind how it is.

I don't know if a steel linnel would be allowed.

Yeah.

That I don't think that would be allowed.

I mean, if you were gonna replace it with another linnel, it'd have to be either wood, you know, and it's got to be flashed appropriately to get in.

The Heliflex system, I can send you the specifications how to do that.

It requires a certain amount of courses that you're supposed to go.

It's I believe it's every 20 inches above that you install one.

So they go 18 inches long ways, and then usually we go three or four courses and you just stagger around the whole wall.

But that is to help hold the weight of the building if you're taking stuff out so it doesn't fall down on you.

Yeah, I think staff is just asking that you also submit the spacing and quantity of those bars.

Yeah.

That's fine.

Anything else?

I'm fine with staff conditions.

Anything else?

It'd be a great opportunity to make a video on doing that.

That would be like a great asset for the library or things that we'll send a drone out to the work and then if that's if that would help.

If that genuinely, if that would help, I wouldn't mind doing that to record, you know how things should get repaired.

Because when you say and why it's looks like this now, like how it got this way.

I don't know what our our latest drone regulations are in the city of Alaton.

So should we we should not include that in the acting statement?

You don't have to use a drone, but we can set up a camera five minutes of just explaining why we're doing this repair.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, we'd love to see before and after.

That'll be great for resource.

Yeah, and it's a shame because this building right across the street, there's a prime example of what a like a house should look like.

Oh, you can say on that one.

Yeah, it it's like when I drove in, I was like, Oh, this building looks nice, and then you see this, like, oh my goodness.

And that's 331's all to me.

That is being destroyed in this process now.

Okay, we're good.

All right, anybody want to move to approve with the conditions?

Can I suggest that instead of saying brick bond matches existing, it says original to cover into a pairs?

All right, I can make it unless anybody else has comments.

All right, uh, I move to approve a condition.

The application presented on 4 6 2026 for exterior brick repair at 334 North 9th Street.

Uh, with the following conditions agreed to by the applicant, that brick bond matches original configuration on exterior and that product information for the hell of beam or hello flex system.

Uh he'll a beam.

Helazine system is submitted to staff for record with notes about spacing and quantity of bars throughout the wall.

Uh I find the compliance with the following sections for of the guidelines for historic districts, chapter three, section 3.3, masonry, and find that there are not circumstances unique to the property.

Second.

Second, second from Dave.

All is in favor of approving the conditions.

Okay, any opposed.

Wonderful.

Approved.

Good job.

That was I'm excited.

We're supposed to be that's like the proper way to do that.

That's really funny, actually.

Yeah, I know, isn't it?

It just pops up.

I mean, it was kind of facing.

But that concludes new business.

We have any other business.

No other business.

Anything else before adjournment?

No.

All right, adjourned at 720.