No.

All right.

So Christina, Abby, whoever.

Hi, everybody.

Good evening.

I know that we emailed you a copy of the commission's report.

Do you all have a copy in front of you?

It's okay if you don't.

Anyway, I'm Christina, the co-chair of the Allentown Homeless Commission, Commission on Homelessness.

Sorry about that.

I always get stuck on the name still.

Let me take my jacket off.

It's hot up here.

And this is Abby.

You want to introduce yourself?

Sure.

Hi, everybody.

Abby Goldfarb, co-chair for the Commission on Homelessness.

So we were prepared this report for what we did in 2025.

Oh, look, there it is.

And I think we really had a successful, and you'll see throughout the report of all of the initiatives that we took and all of the actions that we had as a commission together collaboratively.

We have a really robust meeting.

Some of you have attended those meetings.

We had one today.

I think in every single meeting, whether they are just community members or providers, or today was a very heavy county-focused flooded meeting.

A lot of members from county were there, which was nice to see because we are, as you are, looking for more collaboration with city and county together.

I was really pleasantly surprised with the amount of people who are currently experiencing housing, excuse me, homelessness or housing insecurity who are come.

There were a lot of people throughout the year who were currently sleeping outside who did attend the meeting.

I applaud that.

I applaud them for that and really grateful that they felt comfortable to raise their voice.

Yeah, absolutely.

And in the past year, we've even added one of the commissioners that is on the commission for homelessness is somebody with lived experience.

So she's been voted in as a lived experience advocate.

And when we get to that part of the report, Abby can talk about what we've been trying to initiate, which is expertise from people with lived experience.

So I just want to go over some of the purpose and function of what the commission is.

No, cooperating together, trying to, we're not just there to true to talk.

We really want to see action.

We really want to be there for you as your advisors to provide technical assistance for anything in regards to homelessness in the city of Allentown.

There are so many individuals that are on the commission officially and just participating that can provide guidance and support for any issue or policy that may come up or any of that that we're able to do.

So our key functions of the commission is to raise public awareness and understanding of homelessness.

That is a taken to heart very heavily as we have a committee that is specifically just for educating the community.

Advocating for policies that support and protect individuals experiencing homelessness, develop and present actionable recommendations to prevent and ultimately end homelessness, foster communication, coordination, and referrals among local organizations and community partners.

Ensure that the immediate needs of unhoused individuals are met and that their civil rights are being upheld and offer evidence-based forward-thinking solutions to prevent homelessness in the future.

That is the purpose of the commission.

Okay.

Just moving on, the executive summary just basically summarizes the overall theme of 2025.

It was rough.

It was a hard year for our community.

They went through some really traumatic times of having their encampments swept, their homes up-ended, and their things thrown away, literally boodosed away.

And this was a lot, not only for the community members, but for also the providers.

And we did.

We really have strengthened our cross-communication and collaboration between providers.

That is always the end goal to help the individuals that need it the most.

And that's with the executive summary.

Some of our accomplishments, and both Abby and I are really proud of our accomplishments this year.

I think we've outdone it this year in past to past years.

So we created some new subcommittees for lived experience specifically because we really see the value and the expertise from people who have walked the walk, who have unfortunately been in an unsheltered situation.

How are we going to start programs or services or whatever without getting the expertise from the actual people that are going to be using those services?

So Abby, do you want to talk a little bit about it?

Sure.

So I put together through the commission a lived experience advisory group.

And that essentially is going to consist of eight to ten individuals who either are currently outside or are unhoused in some way or who have been very recently housed, like in the last six months.

And we're gonna spend the first few weeks with an orientation, getting people comfortable with not tokenizing the experience, but being prepared to speak confidently and understand that they are the expert, and so we want to guide them towards that.

And then we would be a group who would sort of receive projects.

So if there was an affordable housing project that was going up, we would hope this group would have a voice at the table to say, we're trying to decide on these three things.

We would love your expertise.

And at that point, you know, they would sort of give their assessment.

I've seen this happen in other cities.

Uh Lancaster is a terrific example where they sort of had a drop in center food bank and they were building transitional housing and permanent housing on the upper floors, and it was only after they reached through the advisory group that they said, if I lived on the top floor, I would never feel like I had graduated out of the system because I'd always be here.

And they thought we would have never known that.

And so they changed the whole structure.

So it would be my hope that this group of eight to ten, probably with some attrition and some new people coming, um, will be able to lend that sort of like really concentrated professional support.

And I am very, very thankful to the city of Allentown for allowing some funds to pay them for their expertise.

Yeah, absolutely.

And that's one of our successes throughout the year that we're gonna talk about coming together as a commission.

We formed a strategic planning um committee, and um that planning committee really looked at what funds should be used for short-term solutions because there are a lot of long-term solutions out there, but what can help the community right now?

Um, and through the year, you've heard about that.

We um specifically came up with a hundred thousand dollar ask, and we had line items attached to each ask.

One of them was compensation for the individuals on the lived experience council, and that uh will begin in May.

Um, and once also, as Abby has said in the past, like once the orientation process comes along and is finished, those meetings will be open to the public for people to come and listen and be a part of.

But um, so the strategic planning committee we started was really to focus in on what would be best spent in that $100,000.

And um, we also formed a communication uh committee and um went back and forth with the city of how if we could have a website because right now our meeting minutes which are being taken every month and our agendas do not have a house to live in, so to speak.

Um through communication with the city, it can't be on the website, but we are allowed to have um social media because we want more awareness, more public awareness, more people to know what's going on, where to find these minutes, where to find the agendas, and that actually launched yesterday.

So we have an Instagram account, and it's ACH Allen Town.

I for it's brand new.

I gotta look it up and I'll give it to you.

That's right.

I see ACH Allentown on Instagram, um, where we will be posting public events and also things about our meeting.

Um, what else?

We one of the biggest things obviously was the oh, I thought he fell for a second.

I'm sorry, at the corner of my eye.

Um I thought he fell for a second.

Um so uh we talked about the the Jordan Creek encampment eviction, but we did have a mitigation effort before that actually to avoid the eviction of Jordan Creek, which inevitably didn't work, but um our encampment committee organized three or four cleanups with the city's public works department um to clean up the garbage and also to find uh ways for the individuals in the community to throw out their garbage so they didn't have to be around their garbage, which was working, um but unfortunately the encampment was um as we know already.

Um another accomplishment that we had over the year um is our multidisciplinary team.

It was birthed in the commission meeting, but it lives in the county, so it's not officially part of the commit the commission anymore, and the reason behind the multidisciplinary meeting team meeting was specifically because the year prior or the year before, 12 individuals living outside died in the city.

Um these are complex, medically complex, fragile individuals that died, and this commission, this committee, this multidisciplinary team meeting is literally for anyone that is rough sleeping outside that is at risk of dying.

So it is living in the county.

Um the county, Mary McGonagall runs the meeting, but it is every provider, it's the county services, mental health, intellectual disabilities, substance abuse, um, and so on and so forth, community providers, St.

Luke's Hospital, Lehigh Valley Health Network, as well as community intervention specialists, and it goes on and on.

And anyone who is working with somebody that is homeless, unsheltered, can come and present their case, and hopefully that communication breakdown that sometimes happens between providers because we're not in the same room all at the same time, uh, we'll be able to help these individuals get into services.

We have meet quarterly, we have met three times officially, I believe, since the beginning of it.

19 individuals have been presented.

All 19 have been connected to other services, and 10, I'm sorry, 11 of the individuals have been housed or moved to a long-term uh housing service, either nursing home or CRR, which is a great success because that is 11 people that were at risk for dying that are now safely in a home.

Abby?

Uh a couple other accomplishments through this group, um, thanks to the voice of the YMCA.

We noted that on Sunday there was not any place for anyone to go.

Um, the conference being open for drop-in during the week at the time, Ripple opened on Saturday, but there was no place to go on Sunday.

And so through our connection with the faith community, um, they began neighborhood house, and they operate that out of Christchurch over on the West side, West-ish side, and um they open for breakfast.

Uh folks can come right from the emergency shelter, right from the Y up over to Christchurch.

They're offered breakfast, fellowship games, crossword puzzles, an opportunity to just be warm.

They're welcome to attend services, they certainly don't have to.

Um, and they stay there and they leave with some some bag of snacks until Ripple Church opens for a few hours in the afternoon.

That has been a linchpin this winter.

We have relied on them.

They are amazing, all volunteers.

And you don't come in with sort of an egg McMuffin sandwich, they're bringing casseroles and quiche and just piles of French toast and just amazing food.

And um, I think towards the end of the winter, they were serving almost 75 every Sunday.

Um, they would love the opportunity to stay open all year, but that costs money, of course, and it's really more about the volunteer base that they need.

So we've tried to reach out beyond sort of the faith community to see if there were people that would be willing to come in and help them out.

Um, to go along with that, the homeless uh commission created a services alert system.

So that would be to allow anyone who signs up for this text message system that if an agency is closed that day, if it's bad weather, if there's some special event coming, if if the buses aren't running any information that perhaps someone outside or another provider is relying on, um, they can sign up for this services alert system to make sure in real time everyone's getting the same information.

So those are some of our accomplishments.

Um were there any questions about our accomplishments?

Anyone?

Okay.

Okay, when we can or Dr.

Modo.

Yeah.

The the name of the church is Christ Luther.

Um, okay, so let me just see, get a bearing of where I am.

Advocacy initiatives.

Our education committee has hosted three, we hosted three well-received uh public awareness events in Allentown in 2025.

It started at Capitol Blue, specifically asking the homeless commission to prepare a presentation for the business community.

Some of you were there.

It was a really good panel and discussion, and we continued those efforts in August with a solution-based community awareness event that was in at the held at the YMCA.

And we continued to in November, correct?

November.

And we're still looking for new events and new venues.

And if anybody would also like to just instead of having a big public event, the education committee is available to come to you to wherever that's at and put on any kind of educational awareness event or activity or training about homelessness in Allentown.

It was specifically about Senate Bill 780, if you're not familiar with that.

That is a PA Senate bill, which is calling for the criminalization of encampments.

It hasn't left committee since it passed in the Senate, I believe.

And I don't know where it's at at this day, except in committee.

But since then, just for side note, a counter bill has been presented to counteract that as well.

I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head.

I feel like we went through that.

Yeah, we went through that away.

Let's go to here.

This is a really great time to talk about this.

Considering what is going on in our community today.

Literally in real time, as I know some of you may have actually seen today.

So long-term priorities, future direction.

We've been talking about this for decades, even prior to Abby and I chairing the commission, the previous chair and before that and beyond that.

I don't even know if you're aware.

Rosalind brought it up today, the 10-year plan to solve homelessness.

That was almost a decade ago, and there's a boiler, it's still there, right?

It hasn't happened.

Establishing an emergency year-round shelter is essential for this region.

In this region, we are the third largest city in Pennsylvania, and we do not have a 365-day a year shelter.

As well as a place for families who are becoming homeless tonight with children to go.

There is none in the in even in the winter sheltering model.

So establishing a year-round shelter solution, and I understand that it cannot just be a city lift, but it needs to be a regional lift.

I know we're focusing on collaborating with Lehigh County, but homelessness in this area does not have a boundary.

It's a regional problem.

It is not a county or city problem.

It's an issue that needs to be taken seriously, and this shelter needs to be moved along quicker so that we are able to house our unsheltered neighbors.

And I think just to qualify that a little bit, when we talk about low barrier or no barrier, I mean, please understand now that you can't stay at the Y without being screened for warrants.

You can't stay there if you have a sexual offense on your record.

Same goes for Bethlehem Emergency Shelter.

You still need a voucher to go there, same as you do for the rescue mission.

And so while there's some leeway in that, um it's you can't just have a problem at four o'clock and get into shelter at seven.

And she's right, if you're a family unit, you're in your car.

There isn't any way children are not allowed in either of those places.

And so it I just want to maybe explain a little better.

Like while we have several shelters, there's a very real difference between emergency shelter and low barrier shelter.

And so we're we're looking for more emergency low barrier solutions.

And and um, you know, that'll only take us so far.

So here's the part I know you hear every day, but if there is no place to go post-shelter, right?

We're just sort of moving them one step ahead.

And so to get really serious and actionable about what longer term solutions might be, whether that's housing, permanent supportive housing, transitional housing, some longer stays where people can get on their feet and um sort of pull their life together so that they can be as independent as they are able to be.

Um that's something that this commission has been really advocating for and hopes to continue to do so.

Um also some strategic priorities, just strengthening our collaboration with other people at the table.

We don't have any participation from the Allentown Housing Authority at this point.

Um we don't have any participation from any of the standing shelters, that be it 6th Street or Salvation Army um rescue mission, they don't attend these meetings, they don't provide data, they don't really collaborate in this space at all.

I think we would be enriched if they did.

Um, and along with that is comprehensive data collection, and um so each agency uses their own data collection method, and then that data is not shared with each other, and that breaks down communication, um, both interagency and sort of agency to city and county levels, and um just generally strengthening our communication.

Um I'd be remiss if I didn't say that it pains me to find out on a Friday afternoon that an encampment was posted the day before, and no provider was notified until Friday afternoon.

And nobody even knew the date.

I had to wait till the end of the day to say, oh, by the way, it's the 20th.

We are disrupting people for their safety, but we are not doing it in a collaborative way where communication is strengthening or or like we're working towards the same goal.

We're scrambling, and we do not have to do that.

That particular encampment has been there decades, forever.

If it was a problem, then it's a problem.

But on a Friday afternoon with five working days to cope with it, is unfair, not to us, to them.

And so I think our priority for this next year is to really either lay some new inroads or sort of fix the roads we're on, um, proverbial roads, because there is so much potential to do better, and um we take that potential very seriously.

Yeah, no, I agree with Abby a hundred percent.

Um I also would like to add that it's not humane in the way that it was done.

It's not humane.

Um I think that the next meeting will probably address that.

I don't need to go into that anymore.

Um but uh there is some data at the back of this report, um, which you have, so certainly um for for your information if you had questions or any recommendations for data that you would like to see going on this next year or in the next annual report, we would be happy for that feedback.

Yeah, okay.

Uh any questions from committee members first?

Um Mr.

Bender First off, I want to say thank you.

Um I know walking into this, especially today.

Um I would I would be more chipper normally to receive this information and to hear about the um things happening, but yeah.

Um couple questions.

So, yes, just to say I know it's a lot, and a lot went into this, and I know that it is hard work, and I appreciate especially because it is a not paid.

I would like, yeah, I'm glad you pointed that out.

This is all a hundred percent volunteer extra from everybody that attends the meeting is a commissioner, a part of the committee, everything.

But we do it because we have to.

Like well, I should speak for myself.

I I've we have to continue to be the advocates for the voices that are not being heard and not being taken seriously.

So, one of the questions first off, um, according to the structure of the commission, um, the report has to be submitted.

Can you tell me the date that this was submitted to the mayor's office?

If you know um the date that I emailed it out to you, it was literally the day after.

I don't know off the top of my head.

Okay, I can look it up then.

Yeah.

Okay.

I emailed it to the mayor, and then all city council.

I want to say it was the first couple days of April, but you might want to check.

Yeah.

Any of April.

Okay.

I'll check.

Um, second, you had mentioned, and this is more specific, but that you can't put the data on the website.

What is there, is there is it a technical problem?

Is it just a what's do you know at all what the blockers are?

The city website.

That again is um another communicate we've been communicating with various individuals within the city um about even getting the correct information on the website.

Right now, I looked this morning and I sent another email about changing the commissioner's roster because it's still not correct.

Um but we're from what we've been told, we are not allowed to put the agenda on there or the meeting minutes or any other information, or even one of the suggestions months and months ago was even the commissioner's contact information, like an email link.

Because there have been community individuals that have come to us and say, Well, I've been trying to get in touch with um Abby, but I can't figure it out, and there's no link on the website.

So that's why we were told that we need to do it through social media, and hence we have launched social media.

And there are times too that we've asked, because we meet in this room, you know, can we stream that that's been a request?

And that was not possible either for us.

You know, how city council streamed that I I asked a question because um I know the city recently spent and I will say I'll I'll use a different word off a lot of money from the city's website.

Um, and I think you know, serving as a source of truth for information, it's it's only beneficial to have that centralized.

So um I'm not sure internally how that can be corrected, but um I I I you're not the first person that I've heard this from.

Um I've experienced it personally in some of these processes.

So um, so yeah, I think that's definitely something I want to look into.

Um the other thing is you said with the data collection.

Um, does does the commission have access to uh teams like from the city internal city teams systems like Microsoft apps?

Or do you even do you even have email addresses for the sit from the city?

No, no, we don't have any of that.

Our regular because I'm just trying to think of like the collaboration model and what that would potentially look like, but um I think that would be probably a takeaway for something that I can look into, but um we have we have a hundred ideas on how we could do that.

Yeah, I don't want any more.

I don't want to eat up more time because I know we're getting I'm good for right now.

Um so thank you.

And then um I one of our commissions, I think the EAC has their own website, so I felt hopeful that maybe they would be able to start their own website, but you were told we're not we're not permitted.

No, I mean you you're not permitted to have your own website that's not part of the city website.

Yes, we are not permitted.

Well, and we're not permitted to have like a city email, so if it was like homeless commission at Allentown dot we can't do that, and like all we really wanted was to publicly post like the agenda, this meeting is having the minutes, and that just wasn't accessible.

You know, because I was thinking to Mr.

Bender's point, if it's not allowed to be housed on the city website, could there be a link on the city website pointing folks to a different platform?

Because there's a there are a lot of free websites out there that you know you can do um you know a nice page and have some links and have some information.

So even if it's not allowed to be on the city of Allentown, could there be a link that says click here for more information and takes you somewhere else that has all that information there?

We definitely would love that.

I mean, it would be um I think even a lot easier because not everybody has Instagram and Facebook, right?

But you all have access to the web, and we uh Sarah Vigere Vigniere said her name correctly.

Yep from from Muhlenburg College, she is the chair of our communication committee.

Um she's the expert, and if you need to get in touch with her to talk to her about details because she's done all the correspondence with the city and different officials inside the city about this.

Um go another thing, but okay.

My only follow-up to that would be given the um articles established at the commission of homelessness.

Do you know if we would be equipped or allowed to propose that change to require that it be on the city's website?

I'm happy to play a part.

I mean, I think a link is just directing people somewhere else.

If it's for whatever reason, and I don't know the reason, so I don't want to speak out of turn here for whatever reason is not allowed to be housed on the on a city website.

My end around is let's have a link that takes us somewhere else, and then you can have it all there.

But as long as there's there's a link that gets people to where we want them to get to.

That's just me thinking out loud.

No, appreciate it.

Um, I do want to I would like to add, yes, thank you again.

Um, you know, this was very, very I mean, I read it, but it's hearing it sounds a lot different.

So um, so thank you for everything you guys are doing.

Um thing that jumped out when I heard the news, I reached out to our team, Mr.

Hanlin and Ms.

Ortega about the housing authority.

Um, you were here for the the county uh workshop, yep.

And it dawned on me, and I'm a little upset with myself for not thinking of it sooner.

It dawned on me that day that we need to get these folks in here too.

So have we set up a date with Mr.

Garidi?

I know we were going back and forth with them.

Okay, we have two dates that we're working on to get the housing authority executive director, Mr.

Julio Garidi in to talk about what they're working on, um, to talk about their initiatives, and I think we need to include some of the issues that you're experiencing with maybe some more collaboration.

Um, and that's something that um once we get that date locked in, we will definitely share it because I think it's more vital than ever to have them come in and say, listen, we need you guys have a seat at the table, let's figure this out.

Yeah, um, because we've talked about housing before, and housing's a big deal for me.

Like that's a big part of this conversation.

So um, so I think um once we lock in a date with uh the housing authority and Mr.

Guerrity, I think that would be a really good opportunity to have some of this conversation.

Okay, similar to what we did with the county.

Yeah, and um I think that's important.

Um, one last thing in the interest of time, service hubs.

Um, I've been reading about them.

I've been, you know, have they been working well?

Um, I know I've been seeing them, but help me out with that.

Uh sure.

So the service hubs were were formed in response to the Jordan Creek uh evictions last year.

Uh the unsheltered coordinator, the city of Allentown is the coordinator of the service hubs, bringing in county um services, which that is where all the services are, um outside service providers, um different Magellan Health, uh different uh treatment providers and things like that.

Um they are a work in progress.

That is how I'm gonna put them.

They are active uh been going on for the past, I think since February at the YMCA directly to try to plan and connect as many people as possible to services.

Um I think that it is a great model.

Um it does need just like everything.

We had to, we were under some very intense pressure to begin them, and they were um I think that there is some room for improvement, but they are beneficial to individuals that are getting linked.

There has been some successes in getting individuals housed or into nursing homes, um, connected to housing providers, connected to mental health ICMs, going to treatment.

Um, in the report, you'll see that the data from the Jordan uh service hubs, I think that 20 people were housed.

20 people were housed, including three veterans, four individuals went into inpatient treatment, and two to transitional housing.

Um, and that is about a hundred out of a hundred and three unhoused individuals that were all along the Jordan Creek.

Um but yeah, they are happening, and we're gonna continue to keep them going.

The why, even though the Y is closing early, they are committed to continuing them until the end of April, and along that have oh offering showers to individuals if they're closed to be used during that time.

But that is the probably the best way to explain that.

Yeah, it's it's hard to like build the perfect model in the middle of a crisis.

Yeah, I was just gonna say you shouldn't be beating yourself up.

I mean, there's gonna be lessons there, there are gonna be lessons learned.

I mean, I I know that it was whipped together pretty quickly.

So that's why I asked, I was like, hey, how's it working?

Because I know it was it was a quick response, and I'm just curious, you know, the status and work in progress is fine.

Like you guys are are figuring out what worked, what didn't work, and making adjustments as needed as needed, and um Daniel Minio, the unhoused coordinator, um, I don't know if you guys know, but pretty much started a few weeks before the entire city imploded.

So pulling that off and putting it together was quite a feat.

Agreed.

Um thank you, Ms.

Garlack.

I'm good, I'm good.

Yes, um, anyone else, Mr.

Pungo?

No, I'll make it good because I know we've got a lot of on our agenda today, but you mentioned the data collection still is a challenge, and so I you know, reading through the report, you mentioned that it's kind of the definitions and the way that the data is being kind of categorized.

I'm curious, is that the only hurdle, or is it also just the participation, or do you feel because I know you have some data from other agencies in there, so it seems like you're getting some data from them.

Is it just kind of we'd like to see more collaboration in how we collect the data?

So some of us are using the same system.

So you know, HUD will require you to use certain systems, but but people who are not operating out of the same funding streams, like the mission or that sort of stuff, there's really not an obligation to put their data anywhere.

So we can access those of us can share and access if we're using the same system.

Um, but I would I I would say even at best estimate, that's probably only 30% of us.

Yeah, and so to answer the first part of your question, the the there is a significant barrier in um the unsheltered world um between definitions of homelessness.

Like the school, uh McKinney Vento has a completely different definition than HUD.

Um, they don't align and they don't give you the best snapshot uh or collection of data of how many individuals are actually homeless.

Um the true definition of homelessness is not uh is you don't have a home, you don't have an address, you know.

Uh HUD categorizes individuals sleeping on a couch or tripled up or doubled up with families, you're not homeless.

You paying for a hotel on your own, you're not homeless.

Um, even though you might only be able to pay for that one night.

So that is a barrier.

Obviously, it's something that the commission on homelessness of Allentown cannot solve.

That is a federal government thing, and there is actually a bill in the federal government um that is trying to align those definitions to make it to make it to make people have more access to services as well.

But yeah, the data is only as good as people are putting it into, right?

So as um not even so much as a commission, although we're all the same people that are sitting in the commission as we are the RAB, if you're familiar with the regional homeless advisory board, um, we have been working on a new way to review our buy name list, which is the data source that we use through HMIS and most providers.

That probably sounds like foreign language, but we're trying to break down more barriers, more walls, more silos to case conference each individual that might be on that by name list to get them connected to services.

So my hope is that that will create a more transparent process as well with the data.

And AYS that just stands for homeless management information system, sorry.

We're a world of acronyms, like for sure.

That one's amazing.

I completely get it.

No, thank you so much, not just for that insight, but also again, all the work you guys do.

Um it's it's honestly sometimes a thankless job.

So I appreciate it and and thank you so much.

Thank you.

Okay, anyone else?

All right, yeah.

Um, to echo everyone else, it's it's it's hard to keep a commission going.

It's a volunteer position, and a lot of our commissions and our boards and our authorities, they don't always meet quorum.

Uh and I know there's been some challenges along the way, but you're still here, and I know it feels I can only imagine, I can only imagine sometimes the the the outrage.

Um, and you're still here.

So thank you for being here through all the BS.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

And Mr.

Hanlon, it says City Code Commission.

Oh, yeah, they're just documents that you had.

Okay, all right, then I'll adjourn this meeting.

Thank you so much.