Meeting.

Um before we begin, we have currently present myself, Alderman Savage and Alderwoman Alsib Johnson.

Uh, before we make a motion to approve the agenda, I am going to remove ID 4026 um special exception process finding recommendation discussion.

Uh Director Kubiak could not join us today.

Do I have a motion to approve the agenda as amended?

So moved.

Have a second.

Second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Up next is approval of our minutes from March 4th.

Can I get a motion to approve?

So moved.

Second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

All right.

Very excited.

ID 7126 Maritime Apprenticeship Program Updates.

We have here today Miss Stewart and the fine folks from the Marine Trades Association of Maryland.

Welcome to our committee and thank you for joining us today.

Thank you, everybody.

First, I um yeah, I wanted to introduce our friends at the Marine Trades Association.

We're very, very excited about this apprenticeship program.

We launched it in the fall.

So, you know, they'll give us an update.

We're still, you know, trying to figure out what works best for our businesses.

But as you know, this is a city-funded program that helps place apprentices in our some of our maritime businesses.

It was introduced by Alderman Chandelmeyer, and we hope we'll be able to keep this going.

So I'm gonna turn it over to our friends at Marine Trades and look forward to hearing from them.

Hi everyone, thanks for having us.

Uh my name's John Stefanchek.

I'm the director of the Marine Trades Association of Maryland.

And this is the fabulous Emily Decker, workforce development specialist, and our our coordinator.

We've also got um with us uh James Jordan, who's the um uh assistant uh general manager at Safe Harbor Annapolis, and Richard Crowak, who's the service manager at Safe Harbor Annapolis.

We thought we'd have them speak um uh about uh having apprentice as well.

Um but um I I want to thank you all for having us here tonight.

Thanks uh to Hope and to Alderman Channelmeyer.

Um so I'm pleased to report that we now have uh, like Hope said, our Marine Apprenticeship Program up and running here at Annapolis at Port Annapolis Marina, which is now Safe Harbor, Port Annapolis Marina.

Um, the very first apprentice is actively working in the program and giving us a real world foundation to build from.

And um uh uh Richard and James are gonna say a few words about that.

Okay, this is Richard.

Can you all hear me?

Yes.

Okay.

Uh so Safe Harbor Port Annapolis is about a 300 slip marina where we do full service uh repairs uh and maintenance to uh all our customers' boats and various boats in the area.

Uh got a workforce of about 50 people between landscaper and administration and techs, and we are always working on and looking for good technicians to help us work on the boats.

That is why we are so excited about this program because we've been doing this uh on our own, as it were, for uh since I've been here for at least 10 years, and uh having Marine Trades in the City of Annapolis help us with the Prince program uh helps us big time.

Uh the the gentleman that we who is in the program with us at this point, Mr.

Andrew Costello, uh he graduated from Broadneck High School uh almost a year ago, and uh uh he's just been an incredible find for us.

Uh I was telling John and and um Emily uh uh at another time that he's almost a unicorn because uh of his work ethic and his personality.

Uh he's just a great kid, and the fact that we were able to get him to this program, at least from my point of view, uh, is is a is a huge fine for us, but also for the program, because we will be able to uh I see another big success and uh helping Andrew uh attain his goal of working on boats, which uh obviously uh I need him to be like that.

Um the other nice thing about the apprentice program for us is uh it helps us with the education of Andrew in that uh we have uh funds available to us to pay for additional schooling on his behalf to help pay for tooling and uh uh uh and mentoring that uh again that we have not been able to provide in the past uh due to budget constraints that that that we had to deal as a private entity.

And I guess last point I'd like to say is I'm very appreciative to both Emily and John to include us in this program.

Thanks, Richard.

Did you want to add anything, James?

I don't know if James has been able to I'd like to just reinforce what Rich has said.

Uh I think we've been extremely lucky with Andrew.

Um, yeah, that's one of the most difficult things within this industry is getting the new young talent to come in and support it, and it's essential.

I mean, it's a huge part of the economy here.

Um, yeah, we've been particularly lucky with Andrew.

Um, but I think being a part of this program is fantastic.

We're really happy and if you use to do so and uh hope it continues long term.

So I think it's a really good way to drive that new young uh workforce into the maritime industry because there's a lot of options there for them.

So um, yeah, anything we can do to support, we'll certainly do so.

So thank you.

Okay, great.

Um, I'll give you some more background um for everybody's benefit.

Um now this is um by the way, if ever for those who don't know, if you're not familiar with Port Annapolis Marina, they're on Back Creek, okay, just to get a location.

Um, and they've been here for um almost 50 years.

Um, so they're significant, and they're significant within the state of Maryland as well, but certainly significant in terms of size of their workforce uh in the city of Annapolis.

All right, now the the apprenticeship program that we've uh created thanks to City of Annapolis is a group apprenticeship program, which means multiple businesses particip can participate under one set of standards.

Um that's important in our industry because most marine trades businesses in Annapolis are small specialized operations, um, whether they work mechanical, like engine repair or electrical or composites, or even if they're mobile service.

Um the program itself includes 2,000 hours of on-the-job training and 144 hours of related instruction.

And the Marine Trades Association serves as the program sponsor.

So we handle Emily mostly handles uh administration, compliance, and coordination.

And all that has to be coordinated with the state.

Um, because getting to this point required close coordination with Maryland Department of Labor, um, uh the Anne Rundle County Workforce Development Corporation and the Maryland Apprenticeship Training Council.

There are regulatory hurdles that you have to overcome to launch a program like this, and now everything's working and in place.

So six months in we think we're doing exactly what we should be doing.

We're evaluating and refining the program.

Um what we've learned so far is that the current structure works well for full service operations like Port Annapolis Marina.

Um, but we need to create some more flexibility to bring in a broader range of the specialized services like we have in Annapolis, like a Canvas shop or a North Sales or a Quantum Sale Makers, for example.

Um the good news is that there's lots of interest after uh Port Annapolis, uh several other local companies have stepped forward and they're waiting to come in, so they're already in the queue.

Um we as we tailor this framework of the apprenticeship, um, they include uh North Point yacht sales and services, um, Annapolis Jill Coat and Chesapeake dockside services.

Um so now we're focused on involving the program, um working with um local all these employers that I was talking about and our state partners to create a more flexible model uh that meets uh state apprenticeship standards because we've got to follow what they mandate, um, but a better framework that better reflects how our industry operates.

Um I'll just close in saying that your support obviously has been critical, but um we're moving from pilot program to scale and pulling in more people.

Your continued support for this program will allow us to refine it, to expand it, and ultimately build a sustainable workforce pipeline here in Annapolis, um, which as we see it is one of the city's most important industries.

Which as we see it is one of the city's most important industries.

And with that, we can answer any questions you guys anybody has.

Thanks.

Thank you, John.

So can you please repeat how many hours in uh classroom instruction go into this apprenticeship program?

It's uh 2,000 hours and 144 hours of classroom instruction.

And don't uh classroom the majority of our industry is self-taught, meaning that we train our own.

So uh as long as it's documented, uh you can learn um have classroom instruction at the workplace as well.

And um so I'm very happy to hear that the generalized service is going well.

Um, but that needing to tweak it into getting more into specialized.

So is Annapolis's maritime industry it's more focused on that specialized industry then?

We have less generalized players here because is that due to our size or yeah, for the well, not due to the size, but for the most part.

Let me give you an example which most people are familiar with.

If you drive into Bert Jabin yacht yard on Back Creek, it's a large facility, but all they do is haul in is um splashing and haul out operations.

They themselves don't do full service like Port Annapolis does.

They have different businesses, they have about 30 on site there that do a variety of businesses, right, Emily?

Yes.

And so now that we've built the apprenticeship program, we're molding it.

Um so we can go into Annapolis gel coat, which is a rather large operation actually.

They have two locations, uh, one in Annapolis and one in in Harrington Harbor in Deal.

Um, and and they can participate in it as well.

And that's what we're we're really focused on now.

So, how many people have currently taken advantage of this program?

Like how many folks have signed up to learn this trade?

Um, take advantage of this apprenticeship program, like actually learn a skill in this.

So we had two uh uh businesses signed up.

It didn't work out with one of them, and we had to pivot.

So right now um we have um four businesses signed up.

Um, Port Annapolis, um, North Point yacht sales and services, um Annapolis jail coat, and Chesapeake Dockside Services.

And how many people going through apprentice training?

One just one we've got I am happy that we have one, but how do we get more into this?

So uh in all candor, it was uh we had to build it uh before we could attract people.

Um and um that's what we spent um the that's what we spent our time and your money doing is building the program because we couldn't offer the program unless the state blessed it.

And um we've discovered that by working with Anne and Rondo County workforce development that led us to that point.

Um, and then we got us uh what would they they call a navigator uh with the state um who um and they put us in front of the what's the name of the council?

Maryland Apprentice and Training Council, right?

Called Matsy.

Right, and and they only meet six times a year, so there was some scheduling involved in that.

And I just tremendous amount of time and a whole lot of details that have gotten into this point, and now we're ready to, you know, we've we've got some people in the pipeline in each business.

We've got some people that could be eligible who we were already working with through our internship program, and um, you know, we'll be more overjoyed to update you on um getting a uh uh a number of people in through the door and and placed in these apprenticeships shortly.

Well, yeah, what we what we have learned is as we are you know six months into this um that to bring in these now these smaller, more niche companies, we need to refine what they call the work processes.

So those 144 hours, I'm sorry, 2,000 hours.

What we have right now isn't quite broad enough, and as we've learned working with our apprentice, what we call our apprentice navigator, that we could actually make it even more flexible to include smaller companies.

So that's actually kind of currently what is happening right now.

I literally met with her today.

And they we now have kind of a different framework that we could be potentially putting in place that will allow for a greater, uh broader sloth of that of that um of that maritime community, so to speak.

So now that the scaffolding is laid, we can really start advertising it, getting uh apprentices into the program.

Is that uh correct understanding?

Yes, yes, but we need to kind of get that into we need to get that in front of the council before we can move forward with it.

But that's just something, you know, we're kind of just in a progression forward, and we're working with those companies to determine what's the best way to uh make this as most flexible.

Um we applicable work process.

Yeah, we need to refine our work processes um to make them more flexible.

Um, and that's that's the whole purpose of this group apprenticeship is to allow for these smaller companies to be in it, and but for that to happen, it needs to be what they call um very broad work processes, so people have the flexibility to work within kind of what we call those you know, generalities of you know, safety and and tools used and things like that.

Um different companies would be doing different things within those subsets, so to speak.

And so we just need to we've got the we've got the building block in place to kind of refine it, and once we kind of get that squared away, we put it in front of the council and move forward.

But that's you know, right now that's what the that's what these companies are doing to work with us to move this forward.

Because as soon as they found out that it was in place, everyone was really excited.

Then they looked at it and went, this is really great, but we but we don't we can't work within these parameters.

We need to adjust these parameters to in order to join.

So that's where we are right now.

So when you say the council, do you mean the city council or I'm sorry, the Matsy Council, the apprenticeship council?

Yeah.

And their next meeting is in May.

And um, so we should it should all be worked out by then.

Um we can start getting apprentice people queued up to come in the program to address your previous question.

Um, yes, uh, and then uh come summertime, which is typically when lots of this work starts um for new newer uh hires, um, we'll we're poised uh to grow in number, yes.

So uh and then after these two things, I'll see if my colleagues have any further questions.

Uh so Ms.

Stewart and I had a fantastic meeting at the fall of last year with uh Dr.

Bedell and Dr.

Tobin from the school board uh in Rumble County Public Schools to find ways we can get a CPS connected with this program.

Um just hope we can continue that because I do feel a lot of graduating seniors and then folks as part of the blueprint who are looking for future career development uh can definitely take advantage of this program.

Um, and then I've also uh made some friends with some folks in the Seafarers International Union.

I would love to uh they express a little bit of interest in this program to see if they can iron out and work with what they offer, and uh after sessions over, they want to try and get some of us down to tour their training school in St.

Mary's County.

So when we get some dates, I'll share those over with you and we can try and all get in a car, go down there and uh see what they got to offer and see if we can love to go.

That'd be great.

Sounds great.

Awesome.

Uh Alderman Savage, since uh Port Annapolis is the big player in this, and that's in your award, uh, I'll give you the first round for questions.

Yeah, well, thank you.

I would thank um all of you for um working on this issue, and particularly the um Port Annapolis for being open to sounds like they're the the first business who's taking advantage of this opportunity.

Good.

Um so yeah, the chair asked many of the questions I was thinking of, but I do have a few left.

Um how large do you anticipate this program getting?

Like what's your my understanding is you have one business active with one apprentice, but you have three who I think you said are in the queue.

Yes, that right.

And so what's your own goal as far as the end of next year?

Um what's your goals for how many you want as far as participating businesses and new apprentices?

So our our goal in the first year was develop one to three apprentices, and so we're you know, at the low end of that.

Um, so I would expect us to be in the some five to ten um by the this you know by the end of the second year of doing this.

Okay, and yeah, it'll be interesting too to track.

I know you're very early in the process, but to track um how many of these apprentices stay in the in the industry uh in the pipeline, so to speak.

Um let's see.

you know at the low end of that um so i would expect us to be in the some five to ten um by the this you know by the end of the second year of doing this okay and yeah it'll be interesting too to track i know you're very early in the process but to track um how many of these appraises stay in the in the industry uh in the pipeline so to speak um and let's see oh and so could you remind me how much money that the city gave you last uh so the city granted us uh 50 000 and that's what we were hoping to get for the second round i think it started in the current fiscal year so july 1st of last year um and just if i could rewind just a second and i can kind of give you some uh real world example about your other question about see if they last we do have experience with this because we've been working with the maryland department of labor since 2014 placing uh young people in six week internships into the marine trades and we can say without uh question the the the most defining um um attribute there's probably a better word to say than that of each uh person in an internship is their work ethic if they're willing to work very very hard um just for personal satisfaction and you know for their for their co-workers then they last if that isn't there or they get distracted um by something else and it then typically don't so uh that kind of weeds out people as soon as they approach this apprenticeship we they say well the commitment is two thousand hours um and after the first six weeks we kind of know whether they're gonna last or not um based on past experience hope that's helpful yeah okay and you did you say it was 15,000 or 50 from the I'm sorry five zero five zero okay uh yeah so I think I think it's already on the chair's mind um but we it's very early in our budget process to know so but can you describe more as far as how the money benefited you as far as getting the program absolutely absolutely and and we were um pretty um uh clear about this when we started uh a hundred percent of that almost a hundred percent of that money was going to be an administrative it was gonna go to pay like I said the fabulous Emily Decker because she's juggling a lot um and this has been a uh quite an administrative slog as you probably expect because we're working with state bureaucracy we were led by the county um and this wasn't uh we just knew that in order to create an app a recognized apprenticeship that we had to that we had to do this um and because if it wasn't recognized then somebody else could start it right when we were doing it so um it just on the front end of something like this there's a lot of administrative research detail to to get it going and um while the while it's in place as we recognize as we recognize that we need to um modify it and and you know kind of bring it bring it into an even better iteration you know that's going to continue that that need and prior to this I want to say um the marine trades there's always been an interest in trying to put together an apprenticeship but we just didn't have the resources to do it.

So this is you know it's been fantastic the the opportunity I mean annapolis provided us the opportunity to to finally get something started um so we truly appreciate that and we started working on it when we thought we were gonna get uh your money before you even were able to grant it to us because we we see this as sort of the annapolis apprenticeship is the crown jewel in workforce development in the entire state and the entire region um and that's how you know once it flourishes everybody'll look at it that way yeah well that's great I'm glad it was uh I'm glad to hear that it would really help you um get this started um and so is there anything else that you could use from us to help you with the next chair I mean I I'm intrigued at uh alderman channelmeyer's uh uh comments about working with um uh anarch county public schools and talking to the seafares union because all that kind of information helps us um like I said the number one predictor of whether or not an apprenticeship is gonna last is their work ethic and um that's what we found is it's kind of unique so um if you can send people to us we do have uh an application process for this um it's but it centers on um you know us just getting to know the person uh in short order before we can recommend them um but frankly it's your your your money allows us to keep doing this thank you to keep to keep evolving and and you know improving this process in this program yeah well great well thank you that's all I have Mr.

Thank you to keep to keep evolving and and you know improving this process in this program.

Yeah.

Well, great.

Well, thank you.

That's all I have, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

And I've uh stressed with the administration continuing this program for another 50 grand is one of my biggest budget priorities.

So uh Ms.

Stewart, if this doesn't end up in the proposed budget, let us know immediately so we can uh get an amendment in as soon as quickly as possible.

Uh Alderman also Johnson, do you have any questions for uh our guests about the apprenticeship program?

Well, I appreciate you all coming out this afternoon um about this nice apprentice program, but um what requires a student to be able to enroll.

I mean that depends on the grades or what their um their um edge, you know, what kind of courses they're into, or I mean how do they get themselves geared up to be a part of getting into this apprenticeship.

So that is um just to uh just to kind of give you a a very quick overview.

This is um in it this is not only a student to apprentice program.

It's it's not actually a what they call the you know, through it's not through the Anrodal County public school system.

So, but it does have a student to apprentice component in it.

Okay, okay.

Um, so and then there are also but for example uh the Andrew, who's the apprentice at Port Annapolis, he had already graduated from high school, and um and had so it that was kind of not in terms of in he didn't have to have a certain grades or a certain type of you know he had an interest he had taken, had already taken some classes, expressed that interest in the marine trades um industry and going into that going into that career path.

So he had already done that.

Um we'll be working with the Ana Rundle County public school system to kind of develop what we think you know needs to be happening with these with the with kids that would be interested in it, so to speak.

That would be graduate, yeah.

Um and also with the apprentice program, there there is actually stipulated in the program kind of a process to interview and hire.

So that's already part of what we what we sign up to do, so to speak.

Okay.

Yeah, okay.

Well, that sounds great to me, but I was thinking too, because they'll get guarantee a g a job once they finish the program, you'll help them get a job and all right.

Well, it's our hope that that the commitment to become an apprentice segues straight into continued um to continued work at the place that's training.

Yeah, at their employer.

Okay.

That's the same.

Oh, okay.

Sounds great.

It's it's a commitment to it's in the it's the basically employer saying we are investing in you because we want to have you with us long term.

Oh, great.

It's a great program.

Sounds great.

Thank you for coming out.

I'm finished.

As long as you're just going through an apprenticeship program, especially in a high demand field like Maritime, uh, where this is a specialized skill, it it's like a 99% placement rate for a career.

Wow.

Oh, it's it's very high.

If you get through this, you got a good job.

Okay, thank you, Shawnamaya Alderman.

All right.

So uh that seems to be any of all of the questions that we have left on this.

I am very excited to continue this program.

And um, thank you so much for joining us.

We were going to get you that $50,000 again in the next budget.

Thank you very much.

Keep up the good work.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

We're gonna sign off.

All right.

Okay, have a nice year.

Up next, ID 826 economic development update.

Back to you, hope.

Hi, well, you have received the economic matters committee report from Adam.

So I guess if you have any questions about that, but I did wanted to give you a couple of updates.

So the um Anna Rendel County Chamber of Commerce Small Business Awards are coming up on March 25th, and we're excited that Annapolis Business is being recognized.

Fountain Flourish, who opened a few years ago, is um being named the emerging business of the year.

So we're glad to have an Annapolis business that will be part of that ceremony.

Also on the theme of workforce development, Maryland Department of Commerce is hosting a workforce summit on April 9th.

Their theme is workforce as a competitive advantage, and it's at Anna Rendal Community College, and it's um keynote speaker is a name and face you will remember.

Um Deputy Secretary Stephen Rice.

And any businesses that would like to participate are welcome to participate as well.

So those are some of the updates that we have here, but I'm happy to answer any questions you all might have.

March 25th, and it's at the Graduate Hotel.

March 25th.

March 25th is the Chamber of Commerce Awards.

March 20th.

Oh my gosh.

Did I get the it's okay?

I will double check.

Yeah, you're right.

It's I mean, it could have been, and we couldn't.

It could have been.

Well, if so, then I missed it.

So I will get back to you with the correct date.

Okay.

If we missed it, uh very sorry to visit.

I know, but our emerging businesses.

Yes.

Somehow, March, I'm sorry, somehow March just got away from me.

I don't know how.

Last thing I knew was the end of February, and suddenly it's April 1st.

So I'm here.

Um, I do not have any call uh questions on this front.

Do any of my colleagues have questions from Ms.

Stewart?

I don't at this time.

Uh well, just a question on um, I guess any update on how the city dock businesses are doing.

Um, actually, um, yeah, we have some interesting updates on that.

So, one of the um requests from the city dock businesses is they'd like to bring more people down, you know.

It they feel like people are kind of avoiding the area because of the construction.

So we've been reaching out to the arts community to do kind of some free events or you know, the city um economic development office is willing to pay the um special events permitting fee.

If anybody has some ideas to bring people down.

So Maryland Federation of Art on May 1st, I think it's May 1st, we'll be hosting a plain air kind of workshop in um advance of Paint Annapolis, and we have um Art Farm and the Annapolis Symphony who are looking at doing an outdoor uh exhibit as with the um the fencing that's going around City Doc.

So it'll be an um interactive exhibit between the symphony and some local artists, and we're hoping that that will attract people down to the city dock area.

Great.

Um we also uh for Biddy and Bowes and a couple of the others, but Biddy and Bose was the main driver due to the needs of their employees uh have established a pickup drop-off zone right in front of their shop.

Um that was so important to them is Biddy and Bowes hires a lot of folks with uh uh disabilities.

So pick up drop-up zone was very essential for their employees to have their guardians be able to come in and quickly and conveniently get their folks.

So I want to thank Premium Parking for working with us on that.

And then I know that they're also looking at doing an event downtown.

Um the the Doc Street businesses are looking to do some sort of event where they might close the street or just do something to really show an appreciation for the dock street businesses.

And that's it on my end.

Seeing nothing else.

All right, Miss Stewart, thank you for joining us today.

Thank you.

All right, and last but certainly not least, and I'm grad uh glad you asked about the city doc businesses because I D 7226 is Director Burr Vogel, who is going to present the upcoming City Doc.

Uh, some give us some city dock updates.

And why I wanted to stress this is because when City Doc is finished, it is going to be such a massive economic boom for our city.

Uh, and director Vogel very graciously has made time to give us a quick rundown on some aspects of the project.

And um, Director Vogel, thank you.

Super, nice to join you guys.

Um really in in the big picture is in terms of what's going to be built and when it's going to be built.

There's no change since the January update to the full council.

Um, so we're looking forward to a ribbon cutting sometime uh around this time of year in 2027.

Uh a couple of the things that I will add, of course, you know, the big news is we got the FEMA grant.

Um, so uh on the financial side, that's that's been great news and has made the construction a little uh less challenging because as we were, you know, trying to move things along in tiny little financial increments before, but now that we have the full funding, uh we're in we're in much better shape.

Uh other news is Bo Show is on track, right?

So that's another big economic um event for the city, and obviously doing a boat show in the middle of essentially you know, a construction project that consumes 80% of their leased area is no no small thing.

So, but we've we've worked out all of those things.

Um BGE will have power installed, reinstalled um probably within a couple of weeks, and so we'll have at least power to the site.

Of course, we we still have more things to do on the on the city side to distribute that power where it needs to be for the boat show.

But but things are all basically humming along, no news is good news kind of situation.

Love to hear it.

Um, where is the new boat show site going to be, or how are we going to be rearranging the boat show site uh during this time?

They will have a smaller footprint in the uh central city dock area.

Um otherwise they they're gonna be doing a slightly smaller show than than normal.

They will not uh actually shouldn't say this.

I don't believe they will be using Susan Campbell Park.

Um, but so they'll they'll get have one or two large tents in the what is currently the construction site, kind of right in front of the where we're the old Harbor Master building or or right where the Harbor Master building is today.

So they'll have some space there, and they'll be using the the dock street area and a little bit of uh a portion of Randall Street.

Um well, thank you.

Uh do any of my colleagues have questions for Director Vogel on um City Doc and the economic impacts for our small business in that area?

Not at the time, not at this time.

Thank you.

Excellent.

Short, sweet, and to the point.

Director Vogel, thank you so much for making the time to join us this evening.

Glad we could uh have you in and out real quick.

Um that concludes tonight's presentation.

Uh do any of my colleagues have anything else for the good of the order?

No, sir.

Seeing no, not at this time.

All right.

Well, I will uh just flag this for you all.

Uh, with session coming to an end soon.

I am going to try to get that tour down at the Marine uh Mariners uh Seafarers Union uh sometime in April or May.

I will let you guys know when I get some dates set up.

If you are able to join me and uh Ms.

Stewart, I would love to have you guys there because the Maritime Apprenticeship Program is this committee's baby, and it is probably the best economic development program that the state of Maryland currently offers.

So hearing that, uh, can I get a motion to adjourn?

Walderman Savage made the motion.

Can I get a second?

I will second it.

All in favor of adjournment?

Aye.

Aye.

All right.

So it concludes.

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