0:03Uh I still serve as chair of the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Arlington.
0:07I here brought call this regularly noticed meeting of the City of Arlington's Planning and Zoning Commission regular session to order for January the 21st, 2026.
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2:17We ask that you address your comments to the planning and zoning commissioners.
2:25I'm gonna uh skip ahead just a little bit.
2:28If there is anyone here that was going to speak on our second case tonight, CA25-5 addressed at 2415 South Cooper.
2:37That particular uh case has been uh withdrawn.
2:41The only vote we're gonna have tonight on that is to continue it indefinitely.
2:45So if you're here, you can go home.
2:47Just for the record, the case hasn't been withdrawn, but they have requested an indefinite continuance and tonight's agenda.
2:56We're asking for a vote to indefinitely continue the case.
3:00Thank you very much for that uh correction.
3:04Uh so first item of business is to uh approve the minutes and uh no again.
3:10We're not going to approve the minutes of January the 14th tonight.
3:14We will approve the minutes of the 14th and tonight's meeting, the 21st.
3:19Uh, and we'll vote on those on February the 4th at the 2026 regular session meeting.
3:24Next on the agenda, we have one zoning case, SUP 25-11 addressed at 536 West Randall Mill Road.
3:33An application for a specific use permit for a tattoo parlor or piercing studio on a property zoned community commercial on approximately 0.22 acres.
3:45This time I'll call on our staff to present its report on this case.
3:50Good evening, commissioners for the record.
3:52Cecilia Nelson, senior planner, planning and development services, here to present zoning case SUP 25-11.
3:59The subject site is approximately 0.22 acres and addressed as 536 West Reynolds Mill Road.
4:05It is located south of West Reynoldmill Road and east of South Cooper Street.
4:09The property is currently zoned community commercial.
4:12The proposed use is a tattoo parlor or piercing studio limited to two spaces within the existing salon.
4:18The tattoo parlor or piercing studio is permitted within the community commercial zoning district via approval of the specific use permit.
4:28The UDC defines a tattoo parlor or piercing studio as an establishment whose principal business activity, either in terms of operation or as held out to the public, is the practice of one or more of the following.
4:39Placing of designs, letters, figures, symbols, or other marks upon or under the skin of any person using ink or other substances that result in the permanent coloration of the skin by means of the use of needles or other instruments designed to contact or puncture the skin.
4:55Creation of an opening in the body of a person other than the airlobe for the purpose of inserting jewelry and plants or other decoration.
5:03A tattoo parlor does not include establishments whose principal business activity is permanent cosmetics, microblading, micro pigmentation, and other similar personal care services.
5:15Outlined in yellow is the subject property.
5:18Here are photos of the site.
5:23The existing commercial property consists of various lease spaces.
5:27The uses in the center include a grocery store, restaurants, personal services, pharmacy, office, and retail store.
5:33The salon suite currently occupies 9,551 square feet of the 9.4 acre lot.
5:39There are 55 individual lease spaces used for hair, nail, barber, and aesthetic services.
5:44The request is to add two of the lease spaces for tattoo or piercing studios.
5:50This shows the existing floor plan of the salon.
5:54This is a saturation map of tattoo parlor piercing studios around the proposed property.
6:02This area falls into the con established residential future development category of the comprehensive plan.
6:08This area covers the largest portion of the city and contains a variety of housing types as well as retail services.
6:14Per the comprehensive plan, people living in these areas would enjoy the benefits of neighborhood parks, schools, and community recreation centers.
6:20The proposed development may be seen to advance the following strategies identified within the develop our land section of the comprehensive plan.
6:27Promote land use patterns that reflect a mix of integrated community uses, evaluate development proposals in context with existing infrastructure connectivity and surrounding uses.
6:38Ensure a balanced relationship between land use development and the transportation system by requiring that developments be appropriate for the proposed location, encourage appropriate redevelopments and reinvestment that creates lasting value.
6:50Continue to require streetscape improvements as a part of the new developments, redevelopments, and substantial expansions.
6:58If the commission is inclined to approve the request, staff has the following recommendations for the project.
7:05One, the specific use permit is granted specifically to the applicant.
7:09This SUP shall be non-assignable and non-transferable.
7:12The SUP shall be immediately revoked upon the sale lease or assignment of the property to any person or entity other than the applicant.
7:20Any increase in intensity of the use and/or addition to the structure or space for the use shall require an amendment.
7:26And there is a third recommendation since work session, and it is the use will be limited to two suites with a max square footage of 330 square feet total.
7:38The applicant is Thanos Ventures LLC.
7:40The owner is town North Arlington Partners LLC.
7:43Staff has received one letter of opposition.
7:46Staff is available for any questions.
7:49Are there any questions of staff at this time?
7:52You said we did receive one letter.
7:54Is that the only letter or comment we got from the neighborhood?
8:00Commissioner, thank you.
8:04Apologies if uh was a network session, so if this question was already answered, so the legal description was for the point two two acres, which is the actual overall lease space for the salon.
8:16And there was a consideration for within that area, it's only two, I guess, suites.
8:24How do we know which suites those would be?
8:27So we have um added a condition after work session that limits the use to the square footage of two salon spaces.
8:35So in those two are not defined.
8:37Yes, it's just the square footage of up to two.
8:44Any other questions at this time.
8:49Um we have one speaker tonight from the applicant, I believe.
8:54Uh Ghadar, uh the good car.
8:58Do you have a slideshow presentation?
9:03They'll put it up for you.
9:04So if you will simply state your full name and the city that you live in, we don't need an address where you live, just the city.
9:12Uh so my name is Gedar Negurkar, and I live in Pleno, Texas.
9:20So good evening, Chair and Commissioners.
9:23Uh I just stated my name, Kedar Negurkar, and I'm here uh to request uh specific use permit uh for two tattoo studios inside of uh Phoenix Alan Suites uh that I own uh in the town north shopping center.
9:40Uh so this is just uh location and context.
9:43Uh I think this was stated previously, but it's uh on the intersection of Cooper and Randall Mill Road, and then within the town north shopping center.
9:53Um side you see the premises of uh Phoenix Salon Suites.
10:00The address is 536 West Randall Mill Road.
10:02The total area is 9,551 square feet.
10:10This is the exterior.
10:19This is the drawing of the interior.
10:24It's 55 individual studios occupying 9,551 square feet.
10:30Every studio has a hot and cold sink, and they are functionally identical.
10:38And so the request is for any two of these studios to be to be used for tattoo.
10:47So the request at a glance allow two studios for tattoo services.
11:48Scheduling, each studio is a fully private studio with a with a door that remains closed during the during the service.
12:03Somebody is there majority of the day at least five or six days a week.
12:08Professional conduct, same standards as existing personal services.
12:23Violations are enforceable.
12:29To recap request two tattoo studios within the existing tenant suite, interior only, no exterior changes, no new signage, appointment-based operations, tenants will be properly licensed and will comply with DSHS standards.
12:48Owner accepts reasonable conditions from the city.
13:22So I think we just added a condition of 350 square feet, which is the size of the two larger studios.
13:44And so I'm certainly not looking to drive out the tenants that I already have to make more room for tattoo.
13:54It's just sort of adding one more use to all the tenants that are already there.
14:18As a business owner, it is not in my interest to have any tenant that makes other tenants unhappy for whatever reason.
14:33Most of the tenants have my phone number.
14:36Most of the complaints so far are along the nature of somebody's playing music a bit too loudly.
14:43But I keep a close watch, and it is it is in my interest to make sure all the existing tenants are happy, and any new tenant that moves in does not change that dynamics.
15:00Uh and then I think in terms of the reputation of tattoo profession.
15:04Um I guess I'll go ahead and say I don't have any tattoos, nor do I plan to uh have them, but but I think maybe some of the reputation they have is is uh deserved.
15:16I think some of it is a function of a lot of stitch cities relegate tattoo studios through zoning and ordinances to the rougher parts, and then it's a little bit of chicken and egg.
15:28Uh but uh I did ask all my existing tenants.
15:33I think most of a lot of them have tattoos themselves, and they were very supportive, and some of them actually didn't understand what the concern was.
15:42So I do I as the owner of that location, I feel confident that I'll be able to add tenants with the appropriate screening uh and and make sure that uh the conduct is professional at all times.
16:03The hours of the tattoo artists will be the same hours as the uh salon?
16:08Yeah, so uh so that it's 8 a.m.
16:11Uh they do have uh the ability to unlock the door outside of those hours uh if if they need to.
16:18Um you know, but again, I think they they would have to uh sort of unlock it and uh occupy or or work outside of those hours and then let somebody in and again it's appointment based.
16:36Uh are there any other questions from the commissioners?
16:41Okay, Commissioner Sumter and then Commissioner Carter, sorry, guys.
16:49Um do you mind putt pulling up your floor plan?
16:54Can you identify the the two suites that you're saying would be the 300 square feet?
17:02Oh, so the double ones are 115 and 145.
17:08And I'm not saying those those are actually already occupied.
17:11I think from the standpoint of the city making sure that you know I don't uh increase the intensity.
17:22The maxi the the two biggest studios are 115 and 145, kind of right in the middle.
17:28Each of them is 165 square feet, and I guess in the sort of the uppermost boundary would be if both of those were leased to tattoo artists, that would constitute 330 square feet.
17:41But again, at the moment, those there's uh hairstylists there, and most of the the ones that are available are standard, which is about 110 square feet each.
17:52So then it potentially could be three suites if it's the smaller ones.
17:57No, so I think it's two suites.
18:00Uh the the I guess lesser of two suites or 330 square feet.
18:04Uh so it's two suites, but not to exceed 330 square at least.
18:11Yes, yeah, it's two suites.
18:13Um, and the applicant cannot definitively give two to set in stone.
18:19So, in order for us to kind of put it in the ordinance, we decided to do 330 because that would be the max that he could do because those are the biggest of the two suites.
18:27Um, so it's two suites with that max square footage.
18:31So the suite by itself is maxed at 330, it's not 330 square feet total.
18:36330 total, yes, because each of the so this one is 165 and this one is 165.
18:43So it'd be two suites with a max square footage of 330 total of the entire.
18:48So it's either two suites or 330.
18:53Just to be clear, I and I think we're we're talking of we keep calling them suites here, but they're really just these individual studio spots.
19:02And uh, and yeah, I think in order because the applicant did not have a definitive idea on which two, the idea was okay, if the largest two were were taken, but it would be limited to two of the studios.
19:17So, how is the city?
19:18How do we know which two they are, and if they change over time?
19:23Uh they would have to designate them to us at some point, and then uh and then they would go in the file, and then uh but yes, it's always operations is always as I always tell you, all operations is always the most difficult thing to enforce.
19:40Commissioner Carter.
19:45Um currently is there anybody in uh performing tattoo work there now?
19:51And has any of the have you or any of the tenants there received a stop work order for doing tattoos from Terrence, city or state?
20:00And you've been open about uh three months?
20:05Okay, all right, thank you.
20:11So do you already have a tenant that you have that you're looking at for this?
20:16So I have a yes, I have somebody that's interested, uh, which kind of got me uh on this path because he came asking, and then I was I had to uh ask the landlord, and then I quickly realized or or found out that uh the the zoning and that I was able to go through this process.
20:35The the app the person who was interested, he may or may not uh I guess it's the the process takes long enough that he may change his mind by the time I get approved.
20:49But the thinking is once I have approval to have any two of these studios, I can then allow whoever uh is is sort of licensed and and interested uh to uh it might have helped if he if they had come, which that's not the biggest biggest part.
21:08So my understanding is you don't own the building, you're leasing the space, and then you're subleasing each one of these suites.
21:16So I I'm actually both disappointed and impressed that there's only one letter of opposition.
21:23So, you know, I I you probably heard this up there, and I'll make sure that this is very clear.
21:30I had full intentions of not voting yes for this.
21:34I am not a big fan of tattoo parlors, and I do not think that they really bring what we need here in Arlington.
21:41The exception is in this case what you're offering us, because I think that you're offering us a leased salon that various uh sundry services are going on.
21:54Maybe you have eyelash extensions and some things like that for beauty and hair extensions, and whether I like tattoos or not, I think that is a thing that's there.
22:06By having a tattoo parlor, you say, here's a concentration, this is all we're doing.
22:12In this particular case, it sounds like you're going to have, hey, I want to go get a tattoo.
22:18I'm making an appointment with this guy to do it or this girl to do it.
22:22And as long as we're not doing a 24-7 shop that has revolving doors, uh, you you have my vote in this case.
22:31Uh I'll just quickly add that uh I feel like this is the second forum that I'm going through because the the landlord had some of the similar concerns and I had to convince them uh that I think all the interests are aligned.
22:47Like I said, it does not make any business sense for me to lose any of the existing tenants because they are not happy with uh a fellow tenant.
22:58Uh right, and so and for whatever reasons.
23:00Uh so I I uh completely understand the concerns, uh, and I believe we have the operational oversight to to make sure the the place continues to be to operate in a professional manner.
23:16Commissioner Twinkle Winkles.
23:19Commissioner telling you having a rough night uh night with me.
23:23Commissioner Winkles.
23:24Full disclosure, I signed a lot of things that way, so it's okay, no offense taken.
23:29Um first and foremost, thank you for bringing your choice to make a business and to develop in here in Arlington, because it sounds like you saw a property an opportunity to invest in our community while not even living here, so I appreciate that.
23:43My second my question to you is do you have other salons, suite salons set up like this in other areas, or is this your first venture?
23:52Yeah, so uh thank you.
23:53Uh this is my first salon suite.
23:55So I have purchased uh licenses for three uh with with Phoenix, uh, but this is this is my first one.
24:02So Arlington is your first.
24:04Do you plan on opening others inside of Arlington?
24:07Do you plan on developing inside of Arlington?
24:09Uh to be honest with you, I don't know.
24:12Um and then the the next question that I have is that um thank you.
24:17It's it's really more of a a compliment because I think you're trying to provide a variety of services in a safe environment where people can still be independent business owners of their own time and manage their space.
24:28So I appreciate that.
24:33You kind of said something in there with with what Tracy asked, and just out of my own curiosity.
24:39So are you a franchise of this company, Phoenix, or is Phoenix your company?
24:46So Phoenix, I'm a franchisee.
24:48So Phoenix owns uh about 400 of these um locations across the country.
24:56Uh there's more than a dozen uh just in DFW.
25:00So essentially you have a management company that's trying to help you be successful.
25:04And uh so actually that's a great point.
25:07So before I even talked to the landlord, I first talked to uh Phoenix to know if they allow tattoo uh artist.
25:15And um it was only after I heard that they they not only allow, but they generally have uh good experience and I guess less turnover, more stability.
25:26Uh uh that that I decided to move forward.
25:35Uh Commissioner Carter.
25:38I'm not for the project.
25:39I think it's out of place for I think you're gonna upset your your good tenants there that are doing the the properly licensed things.
25:46The special use permits gonna just it's just gonna be a wrench in it, I think.
25:51But how will y'all handle the trash and the the garbage of the needles and the will that be mixed in with the you know the the hair clippings and all that?
25:59Will there be are you gonna provide a special uh perceiv provisions for these the the trash that the tattoo artists are gonna create?
26:07Surely they won't be able to have enough room in their suite to stack them up for a week for garbage.
26:12So what will happen with all their uh hazardous trash with that has blood on it.
26:17So right now uh there's a lot of trash as you can imagine with the with the hair being cut, uh, and so there's a dumpster uh behind uh and every uh studio has uh has a uh receptacle or a or a trash bin uh and the the licensee is responsible for taking the the trash out.
26:40And I I should say I have not yet educated myself on the DSHS uh sort of standards.
26:47I at that part uh so they require that I have the zoning uh and then the after hopefully I get it, uh the next step is the uh DSHS uh licensing that uh that the applicant has to go through.
27:01Uh but they typically from what I have uh read uh they actually come in uh and inspect uh the studio uh before uh before approving it.
27:14Just I've seen enough tattoo parlors, and I I think they really will change your element and your your environment over there.
27:22So um I just you know I think the salons, the suite, the salon studios are a great idea, but the I think it's really gonna change up your element over there.
27:32So uh so I I hear you, I understand your concern, and it's possible you're right, and if you're right, I won't have them.
27:39Like I said, I it's not in my interest to have people there that disrupt the the workflow and the harmony.
27:48Uh and big I like I said, I talked to Phoenix, the parent company, and and they put me in touch with a lot of other franchises that that have uh you know tattoo uh studios in their locations, and in general I heard sort of fairly positive things, which is why I actually started to go down on this path.
28:10Uh but there is uh it's possible you're right.
28:16The uh um as the building fills up with tenants, uh how do you handle the the smoking?
28:23Are they smoking out on the porch or were they smoking at the people?
28:29So I mean it's a non-smoking facility, obviously.
28:32Uh so I think the there's a couple of people who smoke, they either just come out from the front door or uh go through the back door, smoke and and then come back in.
28:41Um I don't know if the the tattoo artists are more likely to be smokers than uh other professionals.
28:49Uh, but but the the facility obviously is non-smoking.
28:58Any other names for me to mess up?
29:01Commissioner Sumter and then back here.
29:03Not not really a question, just kind of a statement.
29:06You know, this is a redeveloped shopping center.
29:10So it was you know a different type of uh center to experience back in the day, and it's been reinvigorated with different types of uses, such as yourself.
29:22So I I think this is a great example of redevelopment in our city, and we're gonna see a lot more of this as um you know developers take the initiative to redevelop our old retail centers, which that's what we want.
29:37So these types of uses I think are very important to make it successful for its second version of what it should be.
29:44And having two tattoos, um I'm I don't like tattoos, but that's just me, that's my personal opinion.
29:50There's others that that love them, and there's there's nothing wrong with with tattoos.
29:55It's just a personal opinion, it's a way of reflecting you know what you think in yourself.
30:01And I think having two studios is perfectly adequate for something like this instead of you know a retail shopping center where you you kind of see it front and center um appointment only is important.
30:15So I'm supportive of this, and I think it's a great use and it works, you know, in this kind of realm of the a studio place where people get their hair done, makeup, all that kind of stuff.
30:26So uh I just want to point out I'm very supportive.
30:31I'll I'll just quickly add and say the the first time I met in the I guess it's called pre-planning.
30:37I was discussing uh a bigger number, five or up to five or six.
30:42Uh but after talking to the landlord, after talking to other franchisees, I voluntarily reduced my ask.
30:50Uh it's the same price.
30:51I think the application fee is the same.
30:53Uh, but I um I am aware of you know, there's some uh definitely there's uh uh other viewpoint, and so I just want two uh out of 55.
31:04I believe I'll be able to uh screen and uh obviously I I screen every applicant, uh tattoo or or uh otherwise, and so I hold the right to reject for for any reasons.
31:23Well, I'll I'll make a comment.
31:24I'm in favor of what you're gonna do here in this particular location.
31:28Uh Commissioner Winkles during the work session made the comment that this is the perfect location for tattoo parlors.
31:35Uh and I I wholeheartedly agree with her comment.
31:38Uh it it's uh it's bringing a service to an appointed time instead of people running around at two o'clock in the morning and showing up in a rough part of town and getting a tattoo because they're drunk.
31:51That's not the kind of customer that's going to be coming here during a normal work hours.
31:55And so I'm in favor of this at this particular location, and I'll be voting for it.
31:59The staff I have a question, more for uh you and if you know the answer now, you can give me the answer.
32:06If you don't, I just want to want to know if if you're aware of it.
32:12Commissioner Carter's point is correct.
32:14Needles are used that are being put into human flesh, and they're gonna be contaminated, and they could be contaminated with a lot of things that we don't want to accidentally get our fingers stuck on.
32:26So does the tattoo industry in the state of Texas is it controlled with sharps containers?
32:32Uh because there are, I know in the hospital setting, uh I know that uh we have special containers that needles are put in, and then that those boxes are put in the trash.
32:42And that trash is not incinerated, it doesn't have to be, because it in fact the steel inside can be recycled.
32:49So what do you know about the requirements of a business to get rid of tattoos uh sharps?
32:57They're they're called sharps or needles.
33:00It it can also apply when you stop to think about Mr.
33:03Carter, there's hundreds of of diabetics that are injecting themselves with insulin needles every day in the communities that we live in.
33:13They're instructed to put them, believe it or not, into milk cartons.
33:16And the milk cartons are what are disposed in the trash.
33:19That's considered a safe, sharp container.
33:22Even if that patient has AIDS or God knows what else, those needles go into our trash and they're protected in that way.
33:29So uh I'm sure the state's got something.
33:32And only for educational purposes, uh what do you know?
33:39But I would assume that they do have some standards in regards to that.
33:43Um since it is regulated by them, I'm sure that is something that they will look for, but I'm not.
33:48Well, apart uh uh uh sir, you will be thank you, uh staff.
33:52You will be going to city council uh if you if if this is passed by us tonight, that is a question that you're gonna get asked by city council members.
34:01You need to be prepared to know how to answer that if you haven't already found it on your phone.
34:05But uh, like I said, uh there is an entire DSHS process that that comes after this.
34:12Uh sorry, and I'm gonna just read something without fully understanding it.
34:17Uh but uh the it requires uh the artist to complete uh blood bond pathogen training and operate under a DSHS rule.
34:28Uh this is a regulated professional service.
34:30Uh but yeah, I I think I have not yet educated myself uh on on that part.
34:36It probably has I I have a feeling that a licensed tattoo artist is gonna is taught and may be required to have some types of uh some mechanism of getting rid of their needles.
34:46So uh you need to educate yourself on that because you're gonna get asked that question by counsel if if you win the vote tonight.
34:54Any other comments or questions?
35:00is uh but yeah i i think i have not yet educated myself uh on on that part it probably have i i have a feeling that a licensed tattoo artist is gonna is it's taught and may be required to have some types of uh some mechanism of getting rid of their their needles so uh you need to educate yourself off on that because you're gonna get asked that question by counsel if if you win the vote tonight okay any other comments or questions uh uh first mr gatton uh sorry just wanted to uh let the commission know during the work session there was a question regarding a uh an economic development incentive agreement that was executed with uh town north I just wanted uh to advise that uh I did take a look at that agreement and that agreement was uh purely for uh eligible improvements uh for the exterior and there's uh nothing in the agreement uh referencing uh uses so uses are entirely within the control of of this board and not regulated by any contractual agreement other than the contract that I'm sure the lease agreement that he has uh with his landlord but he's already advised he's been in that forum already so I'm assuming that's why he's here commissioner winkles oh so my my comments more for staff um this is wording and something I know we're going through we're looking at our form based code and we're looking at lots of things in the back end but tattoo parlor is relatively a 1970s genre that we called it back in the day um nowadays those tattoo artists find it offensive when you use that so that might be a wording that we look at changing because this is a this concept is relatively new probably within the last 15 years and we've seen a lot of the developments along abram Street of some of our older residential homes turned into businesses what have salon suites inside of them that artists and hairdressers and aestheticians and beauticians and all sorts of people rent small spaces inside the space to operate their art history business so take into account that the language there might need to be adjusted as well okay great comment any other comments or questions uh commissioner maddox followed by commissioner carter yeah just doing a quick look on Google regarding your question it says that uh Texas tech two parts neither so involved using punch resistance sharp containers and training with OSHA slash D SHS uh rules thank you very much I thought that might be the case and those sharp containers then are either going to be your expense or the tattoo artist's expense so that's that's partly why that's in you you're still going to get asked that question uh because they're not I I know that they're not that expensive but they're not cheap either because they have to be of a thick plastic with a top that once it's locked it's locked so it can't also open commissioner Carter I I just um really had high hopes for the shopping center and not that this one two suites will change the the whole shopping center but it sets a precedent for what could come later we we uh uh the that there's a shortage of grocery stores in the area and we don't want that grocery store to leave because if it starts to get your reputation for uh you know it being tattoo shops and a rough crowd hanging out there so I just I just think it's uh best to stick with the current zoning and uh not and I'm not gonna vote yes on it so if if I may just uh respond I'm I probably am not gonna earn your vote but uh the the landlord was on the the landlord has to is on the application so uh I I had kind of extensive conversation with uh with the owners of shop and company and they uh they were able to satisfy themselves that uh you know uh it's not you would imagine that they have a pretty vested interest in their shopping center kind of not uh you know uh not going down that path uh and and uh at the end of all of that I think they they were support they are supportive of uh of this application with that uh you know I'm gonna try and bring this discussion to a close but uh so you're done with your uh with your presentation I think we've asked all the questions that we need to ask so um at this time I'm gonna close the public session and sir thank you thank you but this is now I'm going to ask that uh commissioners make any other comments that they might have are there any other comments that want to be need to be made okay I have a motion to approve by Commissioner Blake uh Commissioner Blake would you state your motion first I would like to say I'm so glad somebody told me to keep an open mind and not make up my vote before I come in here because tonight was truly a change I'd like to make a motion to approve SUP 25-11 5336 West Randall Mill Road with the addition of the staff recommendations including the addition of the limitation on the square footage very good and Commissioner Winkles is that your motion your second I would correct the address to just 536 sorry very good whoops 536 it is and that is your second commissioner winkles yes sir thank you cast your vote motion passes 8 to 1 thank you sir congratulations thank you this remember
40:00And Commissioner Winkles, is that your motion?
40:04I would correct the address to just 536.
40:10And that is your second.
40:12Commissioner Winkles.
40:25Motion passes 8 to 1.
40:29Just remember that you'll need to do this presentation in front of the city council and make sure you're able to answer any questions.
40:35They're going to ask you the same questions over again.
40:38Most of them will watch this recording, but you need to have the answer to the other one.
40:44We have a little bit of housekeeping to do.
40:46We do need to vote on ZA 25-5.
40:52Addressed at roughly uh 7415 South Cooper.
40:55This is an application for a change in zoning from community commercial, the flex hybrid on approximately 2.07 acres.
41:03The applicant has asked for an indefinite continuance, and I need a motion for that in a second.
41:14There's a motion to approve by Commissioner Finley, and I've uh seconded that motion.
41:18Commissioner Finley, what is your motion?
41:22I move that we continue indefinitely.
41:26Case number ZA25-5 at 7415 South Cooper Street regarding an application for a change in zoning from community commercial to flex hybrid.
41:38Thank you, Commissioner Finley, and that is my second.
41:49Vote passes nine to nothing.
41:51Thank you very much.
41:53Finally, um we have any additional reports from boards or commissions?
42:01I will just tell you that we have four cases lined up for the February 4th meeting.
42:09Are there any reports from staff and or are there any announcements that need to be made?
42:16Finally, I want to uh recommend everyone that our next regular session meeting of the planning and zoning commission is on Wednesday, February the 4th, 2026 at 5 30 p.m.
42:26And we are now adjourned.