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Barre City Council Regular Meeting – September 10, 2025

City CouncilWednesday, September 10, 2025
BodyBarre, Vermont
SessionCity Council
DateWednesday, September 10, 2025
StatusFILED
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0:00

Okay, council.

0:01

It is six o'clock on Tuesday, September 9th, 2025.

0:05

I will call this regular meeting of the very city council to order.

0:08

Mr.

0:09

Manager, are there any adjustments to the agenda?

0:12

Yes, uh, mayor, two adjustments.

0:14

One is for item 4D.

0:17

If uh the council's motion could reflect that Haley Perro will resign effective the end of the month, September 30th, 2025.

0:24

She did organize one additional meeting, so we want to make sure she's able to serve that out.

0:29

Yep.

0:29

Um then I and in discussion here on the dais.

0:32

It looks like we will be moving item 8A, and that would become uh the last item on the consent agenda.

0:37

Correct.

0:38

That would become uh 4F on the consent agenda, unless there's an objection.

0:43

Pretty thorough briefing uh in our packet.

0:46

It's a requirement of a grant that the uh city required, so I don't think there's going to be a whole lot of discussion on that.

0:52

Anyway, I'll have a question on that when we get to it.

0:54

Yeah.

0:55

Uh anything else?

0:57

Um I've uh uh constituent contacted me about um with questions about the situation on the city hall parking that um that you include that in your update?

1:11

Yeah, on my manager's update.

1:12

Yeah, that'd be okay.

1:13

Absolutely.

1:14

Yeah, I need to know about that so I can get back to her.

1:16

Thanks.

1:17

Okay.

1:19

So we'll do that.

1:20

And council, I'll be adding adding uh well, now it will be item 8C on the agenda now that A has been added to the um consent agenda, and I will be asking for a vote of support relative to an op ed uh penned by uh Chief Vail and posted to a social media site on uh yesterday, I believe.

1:42

Anything else, folks?

1:44

Okay, moving right along.

1:46

This is in communications.

1:48

Anyone wishing to address the council regarding an item that is not on the agenda?

1:53

Yes, Sarah Hellman.

1:57

Good evening.

1:59

Um I know that there's been some mumblings about uh the current situation with um plowing of uh there's seven streets that were named in in a letter that was sent last Friday um about plowing um for these streets.

2:18

Um they included Millen Street, Aiken Street, Fortney Place, Thurston Place, Kinney Place, Scampini Square, School Street, and Garcia Lane.

2:28

Um and I was just wanting to, I know it's not on the agenda, it hasn't been warned, but I wanted to start the conversation.

2:36

Um, and I have a couple of questions about it.

2:39

Um I spoke with Brian Baker earlier today, and he told me that um at the advice of the League of Cities and Towns that it was actually illegal for the city to plow private roads.

2:54

Um I personally didn't know that this road was private when I purchased the property.

2:59

Apparently that's um irrelevant.

3:01

Um I want to know where it says that it's illegal for the city to plow private streets.

3:08

Um and then I also wanted to know there is a um a turnaround uh area on Fortney Place, um directly across from my property, um that is there for the use of emergency vehicles, service vehicles, um, for them to be able to turn around since our street is very narrow.

3:29

Um what is the plan for the city to to maintain that area?

3:33

It is on their property.

3:35

Um and then the last question is how do we make this a public street so that it could be wrapped into the fold of um plowing?

3:44

Since we're paying tax dollars, um we should be able to get the amenities that other taxpayers receive.

3:53

You wanna well you and I spoke last evening, Sarah, and so I'm glad you followed up with Brian because that's uh what I told you to do.

4:01

And I explained to you that um depending on Brian's answer, if you didn't like that, uh, that the next stop would be the city manager's office.

4:10

And if you didn't like that, you could always come and visit with the council.

4:14

Um I I mean I like I told you last night, I don't know.

4:18

I don't have the research documents that would that could lead me to conclude that the city has never accepted those streets.

4:26

I don't know.

4:27

So do you mind if I turn it over to you?

4:30

Sure.

4:30

No, that's fine.

4:31

And and I um I do have some I I anticipated that this might come up.

4:35

So if if you're willing to indulge it, I can show you some overhead images to to just document this.

4:40

Sure.

4:41

Um if that if the council would like.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Procedural█████████████████17%
Engineering And Infrastructure█████████████████17%
Public Safety█████████████████17%
Community Engagement███████████11%
Environmental Protection█████████9%
Affordable Housing████████8%
Parks and Recreation██████6%
Flood Resiliency██████6%
Public Engagement███3%
Summary of Proceedings

Barre City Council Regular Meeting – September 10, 2025

Note: The meeting transcript records the date as Tuesday, September 9, 2025, but the official meeting date is listed as September 10, 2025. This summary uses the official date.

The Barre City Council met on September 10, 2025, at 6:00 PM. The meeting covered adjustments to the consent agenda, public comments on private road plowing, approval of routine items, a manager’s update on flood recovery and parking issues, flood resiliency planning, a Community Development Block Grant – Disaster Recovery (CDBG-DR) update, and a vote of support for the police chief’s op-ed on criminal justice accountability. Council also discussed housing vacancy rates and future agenda items.

Consent Calendar

  • Approved minutes of the August 26, 2025 meeting.
  • Approved licenses and permits: a one-day opportunity for IHeart Cookies on September 11 at the Barre Auditorium; a dance group event (Moonlight Capor Morris) on September 20 at City Hall Park.
  • Ratified the August 26 letter of support for the Good Sam Outreach Team.
  • Accepted the resignation of Haley Perro from the Parks and Recreation Committee effective September 30, 2025, with thanks for her service.
  • Approved an idling policy for city vehicles (with minor discussion on exceptions and future fleet-wide policy).
  • Moved item 8A to become item 4F on the consent agenda (a grant requirement briefing).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Sarah Hellman (resident of Fortney Place) expressed concerns about the city’s decision to stop plowing seven private streets (Millen, Aiken, Fortney Place, Thurston Place, Kinney Place, Scampini Square, School Street, Garcia Lane). She asked why plowing is illegal on private roads, who will maintain a turnaround area on city property, and how residents can get the streets accepted as public. She argued that taxpayers deserve the same amenities.
  • Manager Brian Baker responded with GIS overlays showing all seven streets lie entirely within private parcels. He noted the city had paid claims for damages on those streets and that the Vermont League of Cities and Towns advised it is illegal to plow private roads. He estimated the cost to bring all streets to city standards at over $440,000 (excluding surveying/legal fees). He offered to follow up on the turnaround area and noted a potential opt-in fee with indemnification used by one other town.
  • Councilor Deering suggested a resident opt-in fee and indemnification model; staff will explore.

Discussion Items

4A: Approval of warrants

  • Approved warrants for the week of September 10 and ratified the week of September 3.

Liquor and Cannabis Control Board

  • Approved a class 2 and tobacco license for Aranda’s Mexican, and an outside consumption permit for a September 19 event.

Manager’s Update

  • VEPSE Approval: The Vermont Economic Progress Council approved the city’s TIF plan amendment for the Seminary Street (Stevens Branch) housing project, enabling a November bond vote for public infrastructure improvements.
  • Paving Schedule: Grading starts September 15; paving on Prospect, Allen, Berlin, and Quarry streets will be completed by September 23.
  • CDBG-DR Public Hearing: Moved to September 24 (special meeting) to meet 15-day notice requirements; hearing at 6:15 PM with virtual option.
  • City Hall Parking: Meters bagged on Church Street park side due to vandalism, dog waste, and smoking. Meeting with churches and People’s Health & Wellness planned for Thursday. Councilor Hillgartner suggested temporary parking permits for patients; manager agreed to explore.
  • Railroad Crossing Work: State work on South Main Street railroad crossing postponed to late September, lasting through March 2026, will cause lane closures.

Flood Resiliency Plan Update (River Access Task Force)

  • Kathy Jameson and Peter Anthony presented on behalf of the Barre City River Access Task Force.
  • River Cleanup: Fourth annual river cleanup on Saturday, September 13, 9 AM at Spaulding overflow lot (email barrey.rivers@gmail.com to RSVP). Focus on debris removal from two river reaches.
  • Master Plan: Vermont Outdoor Recreation Grant awarded to Dubois & King for a river access master plan. Draft will be presented September 24 at Courier Park for public feedback.
  • Trail at Rotary Park: Design underway for accessible trail to view falls.
  • Water Quality Monitoring: Fourth year of volunteer sampling for phosphorus, nitrogen, chloride, and E. coli; final report pending. Preliminary data shows hot spots upstream from the treatment plant, suggesting leaky infrastructure.
  • Council commended the task force’s work and encouraged public involvement.

CDBG-DR Update

  • Manager Baker provided an update on the $67 million CDBG-DR allocation (approx. $54M for Washington County and parts of Lamoille County). First application round due September 30; second round in December.
  • Property Owner Feedback: New map of targeted acquisitions (yellow outlines), buyouts, and elevations based on direct outreach to all property owners in the North End “triangle.” Key changes: one property owner on 2nd Street declined interest; added a parcel on 15 3rd Street; new cluster of buyouts near 1st/2nd/Hawes Place; new elevation candidates on 1st and 2nd streets; property at 15 Berlin Street added to floodplain buyout area.
  • Infrastructure Projects: Willie Street and Harrington Avenue designs received benefit-cost analyses; included in applications.
  • Planning Grants: Stormwater upgrades and Potash Brook projects funded at design/engineering stage (not construction) due to ACCD guidance.
  • Redevelopment Plan: Council-appointed committee drafting a 5-page summary of existing plans to support grants; to be approved September 24.
  • Council expressed support and discussed housing goals: net gain in housing, preserving neighborhood character, and adjustments to Wabi Park project (likely fewer than 64 units). Proceeded with acquisitions and elevations as viable.

Vote of Support for Chief Vail’s Op-Ed

  • Mayor introduced a motion to support the sentiment expressed in Chief Vail’s op-ed, specifically the sentence: “It is time, past time, for the criminal justice system to hold offenders more accountable for their offenses.”
  • Councilor Hillgartner raised concerns about using city social media for one side of a pending case, potential conflict with social media policy, and the need for collaboration rather than finger-pointing. Other councilors noted the complexity and the need for broader systemic discussion.
  • Manager Baker defended the post as fact-based and reflecting real challenges faced by police.
  • Motion passed (voice vote; no dissenting votes audible). Council affirmed support for the principle of accountability while acknowledging the need for further dialogue.

Key Outcomes

  • Consent calendar and warrants approved unanimously.
  • Two liquor licenses approved.
  • Manager’s updates noted; CDBG-DR public hearing set for September 24 at 6:15 PM.
  • River Access Task Force events promoted; cleanup September 13, master plan meeting September 24.
  • CDBG-DR applications to proceed with updated property owner feedback; redevelopment plan to be finalized by September 24.
  • Motion supporting the sentiment of Chief Vail’s op-ed carried.
  • Council committed to future discussions on public safety, housing vacancy (4.6% reported from rental registry, self-reported), and an adopt-a-storm-drain program.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, council. It is six o'clock on Tuesday, September 9th, 2025. I will call this regular meeting of the very city council to order. Mr. Manager, are there any adjustments to the agenda? Yes, uh, mayor, two adjustments. One is for item 4D. If uh the council's motion could reflect that Haley Perro will resign effective the end of the month, September 30th, 2025. She did organize one additional meeting, so we want to make sure she's able to serve that out. Yep. Um then I and in discussion here on the dais. It looks like we will be moving item 8A, and that would become uh the last item on the consent agenda. Correct. That would become uh 4F on the consent agenda, unless there's an objection. Pretty thorough briefing uh in our packet. It's a requirement of a grant that the uh city required, so I don't think there's going to be a whole lot of discussion on that. Anyway, I'll have a question on that when we get to it. Yeah. Uh anything else? Um I've uh uh constituent contacted me about um with questions about the situation on the city hall parking that um that you include that in your update? Yeah, on my manager's update. Yeah, that'd be okay. Absolutely. Yeah, I need to know about that so I can get back to her. Thanks. Okay. So we'll do that. And council, I'll be adding adding uh well, now it will be item 8C on the agenda now that A has been added to the um consent agenda, and I will be asking for a vote of support relative to an op ed uh penned by uh Chief Vail and posted to a social media site on uh yesterday, I believe. Anything else, folks? Okay, moving right along. This is in communications. Anyone wishing to address the council regarding an item that is not on the agenda? Yes, Sarah Hellman. Good evening. Um I know that there's been some mumblings about uh the current situation with um plowing of uh there's seven streets that were named in in a letter that was sent last Friday um about plowing um for these streets. Um they included Millen Street, Aiken Street, Fortney Place, Thurston Place, Kinney Place, Scampini Square, School Street, and Garcia Lane. Um and I was just wanting to, I know it's not on the agenda, it hasn't been warned, but I wanted to start the conversation. Um, and I have a couple of questions about it. Um I spoke with Brian Baker earlier today, and he told me that um at the advice of the League of Cities and Towns that it was actually illegal for the city to plow private roads. Um I personally didn't know that this road was private when I purchased the property. Apparently that's um irrelevant. Um I want to know where it says that it's illegal for the city to plow private streets. Um and then I also wanted to know there is a um a turnaround uh area on Fortney Place, um directly across from my property, um that is there for the use of emergency vehicles, service vehicles, um, for them to be able to turn around since our street is very narrow. Um what is the plan for the city to to maintain that area? It is on their property. Um and then the last question is how do we make this a public street so that it could be wrapped into the fold of um plowing? Since we're paying tax dollars, um we should be able to get the amenities that other taxpayers receive. You wanna well you and I spoke last evening, Sarah, and so I'm glad you followed up with Brian because that's uh what I told you to do. And I explained to you that um depending on Brian's answer, if you didn't like that, uh, that the next stop would be the city manager's office. And if you didn't like that, you could always come and visit with the council.

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