Call a meeting of the Burden Traffic Commission to order.

Today is uh Thursday, April 2nd, 2026.

Begin with a uh roll call.

Uh Commissioner Miranda.

Commissioner Freedler.

Uh Commissioner Moore.

Uh Vice Chair Boba Dia.

Here.

Commissioner Bansky.

Present.

Uh Chair Conway is present.

Uh Vice Chair, or sorry, uh Commissioner McLean is uh absent but excused.

So we do have a quorum.

Uh six of us here.

Thank you.

Uh next up then, um, begin with any visitor comments from the yellow cards in the gallery, and are there any and then phone?

Excellent.

Okay, perfect.

Uh zoom is what we need to check.

Thank you.

Uh, next up then would be uh staff comments.

Mr.

Casho.

Mr.

Chair, just before you there is additional written testimony that was received today.

It looks like a presentation, but actually it's considered testimony.

Very good, thank you.

Uh next up is uh consent items.

We have the uh meaning minutes from the last time we met, which was February 5th, 2026.

We did not meet in March.

I would make a motion to approve the uh consent agenda.

Awesome.

Okay, uh motion made by Chair Conway second by Commissioner Moore.

Uh roll call then.

Uh Commissioner Miranda.

Aye.

Uh Commissioner Friedler.

Aye.

Commissioner Moore.

Aye.

Uh Vice Chair Bobadia.

Aye.

Uh Commissioner Banski.

Aye.

And Chair Conway, aye.

Motion passes 60.

No abstains.

Okay.

Excellent.

Uh, next up we have a public hearing.

We have one public hearing in the agenda today.

Begin with the uh reading of the statement by the chair.

Uh the traffic commission will now hold a hearing on uh TC 871 parking restrictions and Southwest Pacific Avenue uh for refuse pickup.

The hearing will begin with a report from the city traffic engineer followed by testimony from the person who submitted the proposal.

City traffic engineers report will list the applicable substantive criteria and the reasons behind the recommendation.

We will then hear testimony from other interested parties.

If you wish to testify, please complete one of the yellow cards available near the table at the entrance of the room, and we have a card to recorder.

Evidence and testimony must be directed to the criterion section 6.02.060, determined to be applicable by the city traffic engineer or other criteria, current city, metro, trimet, state, or federal laws or policies which you believe apply to our decision.

After hearing is closed, the commission will deliberate on the evidence received, make an oral decision to approve, approve with condition or deny the proposal.

Decisions will not be final until final written order is signed by the chairperson.

All persons who testify will receive a written notice of the final decision of our commission.

Decisions of the Commission or recommendation city council become effective after approval by council.

Typically, traffic commission recommendations appear on consent items of the council and are approved by the council without discussion.

City Council ordinarily does not conduct a public hearing on such recommendations.

Any decision of the commission may be appealed to city council.

When an appeal is properly filed, a separate hearing will be scheduled before council.

Any appeal must be filed with the city recorder within 10 days of the date of the traffic commission's final written order, and the procedures related to the written appeals are available from the Office of the City Traffic Engineer and the City Recorder.

Thank you.

Next, then we will begin with the hearing and uh Mr.

Casho, please present.

New London West L C the owner and developer of the new apartment building located at 4920 Southwest Pacific Avenue has submitted the request to the strict parking for one for one on-street parking space along the frontage of the development.

The purpose of this request is to ensure adequate access for refuse collection vehicles serving the new 13-unit apartment building.

Construction of the apartment building is nearing completion, including all required frontage and roadway improvements.

As part of the development approval, the applicant widened the east side of Southwest Pacific Avenue and added a sidewalk along the frontage to improve circulation and accommodate parking.

The pavement width of Southwest Pacific Avenue, south of First Street, is approximately 24 feet.

Along the front of the development, the street has been widened to 28 feet as a condition of development.

The street is classified as a local dead end street that is serving residential uses.

Parking currently is prohibited on the west side of the street.

This was based when the report was written.

And there was some communication between city staff and waste management, the refuse holder for that area.

At the time it wasn't clear.

Just to clear that part of the report.

During the most recent five years of available crash data, that's between January 2020 and December 31st, 2025.

There was one reported crash on Southwest Pacific Avenue, and that involved a parking vehicle.

Staff are proposing to restrict parking for approximately 15 feet.

That's less than one space.

On the east side of Southwest Pacific Avenue at the south end of the apartment building at 4920 Southwest Pacific Avenue.

And that's between 6 a.m.

and 5 p.m.

on Thursdays.

Applicable criteria from the Beaverton Code Section 6.02.060A is accommodate the parking needs of residents and businesses in a safe and equitable fashion.

Restricting 15 feet of parking, actually, it will serve the building.

And during other days of the week, people can park in that space if there is enough space.

So this will meet the code criteria 1D.

So staff is asking the commission to approve this request tonight.

Thank you.

Commissioner Biansky.

Could you clarify is the restriction just one day a week the Thursday or is it Monday to Friday like we originally saw in the proposal?

It is one day a week on Thursday between 6 a.m.

and 5 p.m.

Okay, so not Monday to Friday like the originally saw.

Thank you.

My question is the following.

What about when there's a holiday?

And I know there's only a handful of holidays they have.

Normally it rolls over to the next business day that week because they fall behind.

How will this help with that type of a situation?

Does that make sense, my question?

Mr.

James?

Yeah, I understand your question.

Yeah, typically if it's holiday, then they'll collect the second day after that.

We we don't anticipate this will be a problem since the space is too short and it's at the taper.

So that space probably will be available most of the time.

No, but I'm just like it will be a problem for waste management because this is going to be a Thursday restriction, right?

One day a week.

And let's just a good example is Thanksgiving.

Falls on a Thursday.

That is one of their observed holidays, let's say, then they will come and pick up Friday.

So then if they go by their right and people are parked there, I'm just asking how we can do that because that will probably come back at us later, and it'll be a mess.

And I'm just putting it out there to something to consider because it's a very narrow area parking and stuff.

We have this set up on other areas.

And other is with the city.

We never had an issue, you know, during the holidays.

Typically it works for them, or they may be able to get the cars to the street, you know, between cars.

That's how they do it.

Yes.

I just wanted to share that concern.

Just so especially there's going to be quite a bit of there's 13 units.

There's going to be quite a bit of people there with 13 units.

It could become a problem with that, and maybe just something for the future, and could it be addressed what the landlord owner?

Thank you.

Thank you.

I had one follow-up question.

So it initially you wrote this it was going to be weekdays six to six.

It has been updated then in the blue to be just Thursday from 6 30 to 5.

From 6 a.m.

to 5, yes.

Sorry, 6, thank you.

Uh 6, well, this is 6 30 a.m.

to 5 p.m.

in the packet.

But then it initially they said they would come on multiple days.

So is we just went with Thursday because they agreed to that?

Because in the initial permit uh in the packet here, it's identified that um waste management would come twice a week.

Yeah.

Uh as I mentioned, at the beginning when the report was written, we were not sure.

Is it going to be commercial pickup or a residential pickup?

Commercial pickup, it happens every day.

Residential pickup, which they use the smaller containers that you see single family homes use.

So it's only one day.

And this is reflected in the final order.

It will be just on Thursdays.

Okay, thank you.

I misunderstood what was happening in the beginning.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

All right.

That in mind then we would oh I'm sorry, Commissioner Moore.

I had a question regarding the building itself.

It looks as though it is residential only, but for some reason, perhaps because of the additional initial designation.

I thought there was an office space.

Is it only the actual apartments in the building?

And I know we don't have a designation within our city for mixed use.

It looks as it's residential only.

This building is residential only, yes.

Just wanted to clarify.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh no other questions then.

We'll open the public hearing testimony or the public testimony portion.

We begin with the only card I have right now.

Uh Rich Hannah.

Thank you, sir.

Please step forward.

And uh there's a green card there if you could follow the instructions and make sure the green light is on your microphone.

Thank you, sir.

Hi there.

Thank you for uh hearing my reports.

This is Rich Hannah.

Um the business I'm representing is the apartment building.

I'm both the contractor and the owner of the of this apartment building at 4920 Southwest Pacific Avenue.

Uh I'm in favor of this proposal.

I have a couple of I would like to address your question a little bit more fully if I could, and also uh offer some additional testimony with in the form of pictures, which might help you see the space a little bit differently.

Um to the question of uh if you'd like to turn to the presentation, please go ahead and do so.

Um on the second page it says planning requirements.

This is mandated by the city of Beaverton, of course, when we got our permit.

Um and as you can see here, these are residential cans, very much like what you might use in your own home.

They're specified to be inside the building, and that's what we're just following the requirements specified there.

Um I think the second page was well covered already by Jabras.

I don't think we really need to go into greater detail about that.

He's does he's giving you the indication of where this is, and he's asked for a 15-foot um space, I believe.

The the next picture is is really something I took today.

I put a waste management 96 gallon bin, basically in the space that we're talking about here, and took a picture to show you what you know this area that uh Jabra is is uh suggesting as uh the restriction.

As you can see, it happens uh in a location on the street where the street is being widened.

That tape measure from the very far left side of that tape measure to the very far right side of that tape measure is four feet.

That's the amount of space that is sort of pictured there.

And as you can see, there's clear uh easy access for uh waste management to bring the barrel from our trash room out to the street, deal with it in the method they normally do for residential bins, and then return that um garbage can back to uh the garbage room.

And this is their obligation.

This is the contract we have with them to do this every Thursday.

There's five trash receptacles, five recycling receptacles, and one glass receptacle.

And they'll be taking that out every Thursday.

Just for good measure, I put a tape on the next picture that shows what six feet looks like, just to show you that there's um there is ample space here, of course.

And then the last picture I provided, I wanted to show you what that widening of the street looks like from the very start of that new curb uh to the uh where it it meets the um the parallel portions of the of the road, that's 11.5 feet.

Jabra's asking for 15 feet.

I'm gonna offer you could tighten that restriction further if you wanted to.

As you've heard in his testimony, it's we think it's unlikely that cars will be able to park on this little area because it is a sort of a strange angle.

It's going to be hard for people to get in and out of this angle, and we think this is a reasonable spot to restrict parking because it's unlikely to be used by people anyway.

As the building owner and as just a representative of our future residents who will be in this building, we want to keep this spot as tight as we possibly can for reasons that are, I think, are obvious and consistent with what is good for the public.

Um we did talk to waste management, had them out on site, and on the next page, you can see an email that was uh sent by the uh the operations manager to uh Jabra and myself.

Uh she's very satisfied with what we've pictured here.

She was looking at the exact same spot that uh I was picturing in in the previous um slides, and she's satisfied that they can operate within this uh pretty tight restriction.

Um Jabra has been in contact with her as he uh testify testified earlier today, and um and we are looking for only a one-day restriction on this.

Um I would welcome questions if there are any.

Oh, I think I could address maybe your question if you don't mind.

Um there is you were correct, there is one uh what's called live work unit inside this building.

That's a designation that the CW10 has.

I think it sounds like you're familiar with it.

The the trash that's collected from that particular unit ends up in the exact same location as where these are collected.

So there isn't separate trash or uh containers for that individual um office or that live space, however it gets used.

Excellent, thank you.

Thank you.

Uh questions, Mr.

Hand?

Uh Commissioner uh Miranda.

So you do not provide any parking for for your 12 people.

As you know, the state of Oregon does not require parking.

Um the economics of providing parking on site are very challenging for a middle middle-sized housing uh development.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Uh just as a uh curiosity, I think.

So they don't have to put the carts out that uh waste management will walk over and pick them up.

They have a fob access to the electronic keypad.

They gain access, they take the carts out two at a time, presumably, um, and then return them to the to the designated spot.

Okay, and I only asked because we had one uh hearing last year, I believe it was, and they uh they had they wanted over no overnight parking before because if it started at six and they had the carts out there, then there was it was the car before the car and that kind of so just curious on that.

So I appreciate all the work.

I appreciate the uh effort here too and the uh description that you had.

Thank you very much.

Uh Commissioner Moore.

Based on my observations of some neighbors of mine who have an apartment complex, when people move in and out, there's often additional trash and additional pieces of furniture that get left behind and can't fit in the receptacles that you're showing.

How is there a provision for that in your current plan?

I I don't know the answer to be truthful.

We uh I have a professionally uh management team that is gonna manage the property.

They've dealt with this.

They they currently manage over 2200 units, including many units here in Beaverton.

So I think they probably have provisions for how to handle that and um and how to manage that.

We do have janitorial services which are coming to the site as uh on a schedule as requested by the property management firm.

And so there will be people on staff who are coming by on a regular basis to monitor for those kinds of things and to make sure the building is clean.

Honestly don't know right now how they manage that, but I think that they have successfully managed that for many years now.

The property management team is responsible for that.

Yes, exactly right.

Yeah, so they're responsible for all aspects of the building, all the tenant issues, complaints, happiness, moving people in, moving people out, anything.

It all goes to them.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

Uh Commissioner, sorry, Vice Chair Bob D.

So I just want to um make sure I have a clarification.

I understand you says that there, my understanding it is a 13-unit apartment complex.

That's correct.

Are those units um able to be converted to condos?

No.

Okay.

And then I wouldn't know the answer to that.

They were not designed or built as condos.

So whether they could be converted in the future by me or somebody else, I I wouldn't know the code well enough to know if that's possible.

But we certainly have not designed it such as such.

That helps, at least at least not because sometimes you can design them with that idea in the future if you want to be able to do that.

That's not for the intention.

Yeah.

Okay.

The other um question I had here for you is is from your um testimony around sounds like there is no on-site management.

You have off-site property management that will be taking care of concerns.

That's correct.

Yep.

13 units, what does that break down to?

Two bedrooms, one bedrooms.

Can you share?

Uh yeah, sure.

We have uh four studios, six one bedrooms, and three two bedrooms.

The one of those six one bedrooms is the live work space.

Okay.

So you're looking about in theory, what's your what are you anticipating as your maximum occupancy for your 13 apartment unit?

You know, we had to fill that paperwork out when we submitted to the school district and all the rest, and I would have to go back to that paperwork.

I don't actually know the answer.

And I'm being nosy because it matters to us because of parking, especially when you're telling us you're at the traffic commission, right?

And we we tend to entertain those issues down the road.

So it just kind of helps us give this perspective.

I mean, the the one thing I'll share on that, because it is it is pertinent, I think, to the to the matter.

Um this is a dead end street.

Every residence on this home has off-street parking right now, and the only other large format uh parking um multifamily has individual parking spots within a parking lot environment.

That was created 20, 30, 40 years ago when parking was mandated in the city and in the state.

Yeah.

Um now that's not the case anymore.

Totally understand.

We know that.

We hear that all the time by people too.

But my point in sharing, though, is that you know, for the last year we've been in construction, and there are days when we have a tremendous number of contractors on site, you know, working.

We typically, the contractors typically take up the entire street of parking unless people have overflowed out of their existing spaces into the into the street.

I've never parked more than two blocks away with all of those people there.

So I my my sense is just based on the observation in the last year of being there every day, is that there will be plenty of parking on the street, and nobody will have to very few people will have to go north of third in order to put uh that's helpful.

And it sounds like because of the dead end aspect of the street, which probably helps control some of that.

I would expect so.

We saw uh uh we saw a lot of uh uh people on the street um on Saturday during the No Kings uh rally, because I think that was nearby if I'm not mistaken.

But that was the first time I've ever seen any kind of never seen traffic from the Saturday market, for example, which is very close by.

Thank you.

One more question.

The other one is um it are there any type of um accommodations like for bicycles, anything there.

Of course, yes.

We have a bike room inside with 13 uh hanging bike racks that are already positioned and stationed, and then outside the building we have um a bike rack as well that can people can lock if they want.

But the expectation is that people will keep their bike in the bike rooms.

It has it's locked, it's card access controlled, etc.

Thank you.

That anything like that helps.

Thanks for that answer.

Thank you.

Any other questions?

Mr.

Hannah, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

And again, thank you.

Appreciate your time and uh effort with the pictures and the research and the information.

Thank you so much.

Uh with that in mind, there are no other cards and no Zoom comments.

With that, then we will close the public testimony portion and go to final comments, Mr.

Casho.

Uh I just want to bring your attention to the final little order.

Actually, it says authorized the city transportation engineer to modify the length of the restricted parking zone as needed.

So if they need less than 15 feet, we we can do this without coming back to the commission to do this.

You heard they said seven feet is enough to pick the carts up.

Um staff doesn't think so because of the proximity to the light bulb there.

So we have this flexibility to adjust when it's approved by City Council.

Okay, makes sense.

All right, thank you.

With that then, uh close the public hearing portion and begins uh commission deliberations.

Any comments Commissioner Banski?

Uh just want to say I think it's a very reasonable request with minimal impact, negative impact on parking.

So I'm all for it.

Okay, thank you.

Uh Commissioner Bob Dia, or sorry, Vice Chair Bob D.

Um uh I agree.

My concern only was earlier when I read the report was about it being um restricted for a full week at all times, basically, and I feel that that wasn't necessary.

My other concern was accommodation for holidays.

But it sounds like that's going to be handled given that there's a property management company, so emails that can be handled very easily.

I think it's a great idea.

All right.

Thank you.

Other comments.

Motions, anything.

I do again, I appreciate all the time and effort that went into it and also the city's working and Mr.

Cush's comment about the access there.

It is pretty tight.

There is some limited room in that street, and I wonder how much that will spill out when people come in, but we'll see what we see, and I appreciate that it was done.

That in mind then.

I would make a motion to approve is written uh TC 871 Park Restriction Southwest Pacific Avenue for refuse pick up for the one day noted uh during the times.

Sorry, uh Vice Chair Bobe.

I move.

Oh, second.

No, I made a motion.

Yes, second.

Okay, so motion we have a chair conway, seconded by Vice Chair Bobadia.

Uh final discussion.

Uh then we'll do a roll call on that.

Thank you.

Uh Commissioner Miranda.

Commissioner Friedher.

Sorry.

Uh Commissioner Moore.

Aye.

Uh Vice Chair Bobadia.

Commissioner Bansky.

Aye.

So motion passes 6-0 with no abstains.

Thank you.

Appreciate everyone's time on that one.

Next up this evening, we have uh a presentation.

This is a downtown parking plan update.

Uh Molly?

Oh, there you are.

So Molly and Casey, wait, Casey, is this says we're gonna have a partner.

I'm gonna adjust it so it doesn't squeak at you.

Um Casey is uh on vacation, which was approved prior to us knowing the date of this.

So um it's just me tonight.

Um and thank you for having me.

Thank you for coming.

Molly Rabinovitz, uh parking manager for the city of Beaverton.

And I'm here to talk about the downtown parking plan.

Um an update.

We'll we'll go through the presentation.

I've got a couple of questions for you all to think about while we go through this.

Um just you know, really here to talk about where we are and uh hopefully get some feedback from you all.

Not in control of the slides.

Okay.

So um I've come and talked to the commission a few times over the years about downtown parking, downtown parking plans.

Umtown parking management and action plan, or as we internally called it, DP Map.

We've shortened the name.

That's all we've done.

That's why it's downtown parking plan.

Um the plan emphasizes data-informed decision making, community engagement, financial facial and sustainable feasibility, um, and integration with our other downtown activities, development, economic development, uh, transportation systems plan, all of those things that are going on.

Thank you.

Um this is not your typical plan that comes in with a you do this in the first year, you do this in the third year, you do this in the fifth year, because parking doesn't operate that way.

And as development changes, as our downtown changes, so do the needs of our community.

So we call this kind of an as needed plan or choose your own adventure, um, if you're familiar with those books.

And you kind of look at what is the impact of a strategy or multiple strategies.

Some may need to be done together, some may last for 10 years, some may last for six months.

Um so we we are constantly adjusting.

It's a living document.

It's a parking is a kind of a living thing.

Um but as we go through this plan, our next steps are we're continuing community engagement.

We have have done a couple of one-on-one sessions with some counselors and some bureau board members.

We've talked to some community members.

We're here tonight.

We've got a number of other meetings set up over the course of April and May.

Um we will be doing a work session with our Bureau Board on May 26th, and we will be um doing a council presentation and hopefully an adoption of the plan on June 16th.

So while we go through this, I have a couple of questions for you to think about, and I'll bring them back at the end.

Um so do the strategies that are addressed in the parking plan meet the needs or what or experiences that you've heard about in downtown.

If not, what's missing?

Um if there are of the strategies that are there, um I would love to hear a top priority from everyone.

So I'm gonna go straight into the nine actions.

Think of these are as like high-level umbrella actions or strategies.

They each have a set of sub-actions.

But as I said, with the choose your own adventure, some of these subactions may not happen or may not happen quickly.

Some of them might actually already be in motion.

And so it's there's not a timeline or a or a priority list that goes along with this.

So strategy number one, establish a permanent downtown compliance program.

Um the pilot sunsetted two days ago.

Um, and we would like to transition that into a more permanent, consistent, proactive downtown approach, given the fact that downtown has parking regulations like time limits and loading zones and things along those lines.

Um our pilot allowed us to collect data.

We would like to continue to collect data through a compliance program.

Um we'd like to implement lessons learned from that pilot, and of course, as needed, and you'll see this a few times throughout these actions, update the municipal code, update the city code so that we know that we are um making sure that everything is covered because there are a number of parking strategies that are currently silent in City Code.

So moving on to action two, create a parking brand.

We've heard from the community that finding parking is one thing, recognizing parking is another.

Um so you know, people are very familiar in the region with parking kitty.

People would love to see Beaverton have something similar, adopt parking kitty, that's an option.

City of Vancouver, Washington did that for consistency, and so people only had to have one app on their phone.

Um so just for Beaverton to find that brand to make new signage that kind of makes the parking, the public parking really clear and work with our traffic engineering group to install those signs and make sure that the brand really helps bring people along to where they can go to park.

That can be on street, that can be off-street lots, um, it can be garages, but all of that brought together under a parking umbrella brand.

Next, implement paid parking.

And for those of you who have heard me speak over the years, know that I'm not the person to shy away from saying paid parking is always a strategy.

Um paid parking can be done in a number of different ways.

So obviously looking at our utilization and seeing if if the city is ready for paid parking as a solution to get people to kind of choose their best fit in parking.

Um it can be a cost recovery program or revenue generating to help support other parking and transportation initiatives.

Um it can help us we have a few private properties that have come in and implemented their own paid parking systems.

Um of the recommendations is to put regulations around that so there's not confusion in citations, there's not confusion in how long you can park there.

Um we've had complaints about the the cost of those citations, so we like to work with our property owners to create a system that's more user-friendly and that has some terms and conditions around providing paid parking.

Um we know that is a disincentive to develop those surface lots if they're making revenue on them also.

So there are some discussions that need to happen there.

Um and then again, update your municipal code.

Strategy four.

There are nine strategies, by the way, so I'm trying to power through them here.

Can we ask a question?

Uh if you would like I'll I'll I'll let the chair answer that question.

No, uh we can take them, we just need a hand raise, please, though.

So uh Commissioner Moranda go one step back.

So you are talking about um private parking.

You want to regulate it.

Um can I give you an example for that make it easier?

Okay, so City of Portland has a program that anybody in within a geographical boundary that wants to have surface lot, so off-street in their on their own property, paid parking, pays essentially like a business license to do that.

And so one it's like 250 dollars a year or something like that to be able to operate a paid parking lot because right now we don't have it's a it's a land use conditional use to have parking as a principal use.

Because right now we don't have it's a it's a land use conditional use to have parking as a principal use.

So if you open up a paid parking lot for anyone to use, you're kind of skirting that boundary of is it public parking that is for everyone, or is it still associated with that land use that it was built for?

So in regulating that, it's saying, okay, if you want to participate in this and make your parking available to all, you will operate it like a business.

Um whoever is operating that, so if you have a parking operator in there, they would also have to be licensed to operate in the city of Beaverton.

And then there could there would be terms and conditions around the program, like your citation can't look like a city of Beaverton citation.

People can't think that they're being cited by the city of Beaverton.

Um you have to have a grace period that allows somebody to drive in and decide I don't want to park here and drive out.

We've had instances in the past with one of our lots that somebody would drive in and drive out, and then they'd receive a $90 citation in the mail because they entered the parking lot.

And so we had to kind of talk them through the community friendliness.

So that's what I mean by regulating.

Um kind of creating a program around it that makes it clear to the user as well as just make sure that that there's really no confusion over private operations and public operations.

Okay, thank you.

Sure.

Thank you.

No problem.

Uh Vice Chair Bob D.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Um, so I think it sounds that there needs to be a definition of what is considered a private parking basically, is that right?

Well in the code.

We do have private park land use defines private versus public.

So if if it's not a city of Beaverton or bureau owned lot, if it's a if it's a private parking lot owned by um, you know, we've got I mean, we have so many private parking lots.

Let me rephrase it.

So maybe it'll help maybe it was about a question that I said it is it sounds like if it's a private parking lot, but I am going to open it up for the general public to use it and I'm going to make money on it, then there needs to be possibly some uniform regulations.

Correct.

Right?

Yes.

So it's it sounds like the city of Beaverton doesn't have that yet.

Correct.

Correct.

Okay.

Yes.

So that would help with uh probably providing some sort of uniform rules, standards, so there's less confusion, maybe like even a sign that needs to be totally acknowledged.

Absolutely.

Okay.

Am I understanding it right that there this is possibly um in the city's benefit because it would help us work with our community partners and by allowing more I'm just thinking, right?

Parking for people to use.

Yes.

So is this something where you said thinking, is this something that is going to possibly execute or that we are going to be looking at this?

It is coming, or we're not sure.

So it's one of the strategies of or one of the pieces of the strategies.

Um my team has actually already started the research.

We've um we've talked to our city manager about it.

So internally, yes, we are already working on it.

We're doing the research.

We're we're writing the draft code.

Um it is a policy decision that is above our pay grade, so it will be a policy decision that would go out to I I'm gonna say city council because it's city code for their approval to move forward with it, but it is absolutely something that my team is already looking into and already drafting.

And I think I think Laros, at least I'm speaking for myself here, is that uniform rules tend to help us for what the clo what the public comes.

So that sounds like a great idea.

It sounds also about parking kitten.

You talked about it a little bit earlier.

Um about an app.

I hate and like it, but you're right, people are very familiar with it.

And I think familiarity is very keen and makes it user-friendly.

If it's there, why not adopt it?

Yeah.

And but what about also just put a pin on it for the future if you don't have an answer enough, but just a consideration of this.

I think there needs to be something out there if you're for the city of Beaverton where people need to know if they're within a certain range, like I don't know, thinking app, everything's app, sorry, these days.

Um parking's available like down the block or something, because there it tends to be that we have maybe two, three blocks down, right?

Then there's parking available and people don't know.

Yep, right.

So I just think that sometimes we have a lot of vacancy possibly out there that's not being used to the maximum.

And if we can somehow give the public notice of where they can find it when that area could help us.

Yep.

And and that's all that is all doable digitally.

Um for example, our parking garage, if when you drive by the Bureau parking garage, it has the number of spaces available.

There are ways to integrate that information into an app or something that says, hey, at Beaverton Central Parking Garage, there are 260 spaces available.

So for sure, part of the parking brand could absolutely include some sort of wayfinding.

Um we we're definitely open to looking into that.

For parking kitty at apps around paid parking, I just want it to be clear that it would be a council policy decision to adopt paid on street parking before we would need to move to an app that requires payment.

So there's there's an infrastructure and we would also want to put space like the parking stations, pay stations on the street because of accessibility.

No, and I like you putting us at a good reminder of like, hey, you guys are trying to get here, but before we get here, we need to do this.

Yes.

So that's a great reminder, Chus.

You're right, I forgot about that.

But where what's the status on the city's thinking?

Maybe it's not a question for you for someone else of are we going to adopt paid parking or not?

It has come up in discussions with council, um, but nobody has leaned, we we haven't leaned in one direction or another.

What the parking stuff, what the parking pilot data showed us is that A, with proactive enforcement, we did see a change in behavior.

We saw people observing the time limits better.

We saw a higher usage and a higher turnover, which from a customer service base, that's a that's a really good thing downtown.

Um we saw fewer citations written at the end than at the beginning, which in our eyes is actually a good thing.

It means people were following the rules and therefore didn't need to be cited as much.

Um it also showed us where our hotspots are, where we had the highest turnover, where we had the highest demand and the highest utilization.

And those would be the areas that would be the first ones to be looked at for paid parking.

Um I've I've always described parking kind of it has its ripple effects.

You put something here and something changes over there because somebody makes a new decision.

And so if we were to look at our our hotspot kind of right in that center of restaurant row, so first Washington, Farmington, Watson, kind of second, you know, right around the commons, those areas are our highest demand areas.

Um when people are following the regulations, we know that those are the places people want to be.

If we start there, we do anticipate that we might see things push out a little bit, making better utilization of the entire system, which is a goal.

Um, but also making people make a choice.

Value, time, space, walking, um the traffic engineering team and our team have spent a lot of time talking about mobility and ADA access and making sure that that's a priority as we go through all of these changes.

I understand, but I also think that it's important for the city and all of us to think we have to also think long range.

Yes.

I understand that parking is fluid and it needs to change as it goes, but we also need to have some sort of a long-range target, right?

Are we going to eventually adopt paid parking?

Maybe it's not right now, but I hon I'm not saying I like it, I hate it, I'll be open with you about it, but I think it's more likely not a necessity.

And the sooner you adopt and kind of teach the public about it, our community, the sooner it's going to be more accepting.

Versus sometimes we have a bad habit in our city of like dropping it, and there's a lot of resistance versus that gradually it coming.

I really would love to see that if we're going to adopt it, let's have a plan in place for the future and how we're going to put this into place.

I think it's important.

We've got 20-year-olds right now.

Five, 10 years from now, they're 30-year-olds.

They will eventually become parents.

It changes their lifestyle.

We don't think that we we have issues like we have right now with the growth of our city.

It's going to continue to grow.

Yes.

So this the concept behind the downtown parking plan.

Thank you for that.

I I appreciate your thoughts on that.

Um the the concept behind this is to give us the base for being able to develop those plans.

So something like downtown parking, uh paid parking, sorry, um, would be a project within this, and it would have its own engagement, its own process of approval, um, its own timeline.

This just sets the standard of this is something you should consider.

This is something you can consider to deal with any parking management issues that may arise.

And as I mentioned at the beginning, you know, the timeline is fluid.

So I I've I've hopefully always been open about the fact that paid parking is always an option.

So when we when it comes time to do this, as people are familiar with it being a regional and national and an international concept of paid parking, that that you know we can roll it out in a way that the community goes along with us.

Our budget speak to it.

I mean we're gonna have to adopt it sooner or later.

I mean, the city's gonna need it.

And and I and council will get to make that policy decision.

Thank you.

Yeah, uh so uh there are nine strategies.

There are nine strategies.

So, let's get it, let's be like okay.

Strategy four, um, residential on-street parking permit program.

Um so updates to this program would include uh whether or not we go through a cost recovery effort, right now they are zero dollars, and you can have as many as you want.

So you have to be within a certain boundary, but uh there's not a lot of limits on it.

Um and this program was established in 1997, it was revised in 2002, and it has not been touched since.

So the locations aren't necessarily the appropriate locations.

We've had a lot of development downtown since 2002.

Um do we put more restrictions around what what qualifiers you need?

Or do we put a cap on the number of vehicles that each resident can apply for?

Do we look at a price range where the first one is $10 a month, but each additional one after that goes up?

We do know that private multi-family parking is a lot more expensive than zero dollars a month.

Um so how do we, you know, if if somebody knows that it's either 165 dollars a month to park on their site or they can park on the street in front of the building for free, how do we balance that for our other needs downtown?

We have so many users downtown.

How do we encourage people to how do we develop a permit program that better fits the current design of the city and not what was on the street 25 years ago?

Um I'll also add that the next strategy I think it's the next one.

Um yeah, the next strategy enhance employee permit options.

So right now, our residential and our permit our employee permits are one.

They they can park in the same locations, they apply for the same permit.

Umyees do pay $30 a quarter or $10 a month, but there's a finite number of spaces that the residents and the employees are essentially both going for.

So part of these two strategies together would be to create two separate programs, one trying to meet the need of the residents and one trying to better meet the needs of employees.

The other thing with employee parking is looking where we could get them slightly further away or off-street, depending on where the you know where they are in proximity to their business or their employment.

Um the third and Washington lot is a really good example of if employees park in our third and Washington lot, which is underutilized, then the on-street parking that they've currently used is available to the customers.

So finding that balance between them.

Also looking at shared parking programs, we've heard that there are a number of um private property owners who might be more than willing to let two baristas that they know from the coffee shop park on their lot every day over letting somebody from the public come in and park on their lot.

So, how can we kind of take better uh use of all of the parking out there while opening up the shorter term parking for customers?

Oops, wrong way on my sorry.

Um proving curb space management.

I had to put this on two slides because the the definition was a little bit uh or the actually list of actions was long.

Um really looking at how do we share curb space.

We've got transit, we've got micromobility and bikes, we have ADA needs and mobility needs, we have loading zones, we have um zero lot line development and and construction happening.

So how we have street seats, how do we use that curb to the best of our ability?

Um we we have refuse pickup.

We just had that conversation.

So looking at what our time limits are, looking at where our loading zones are located, looking at what our needs are.

We've heard from a number of businesses.

We want delivery pickup drop-off, like short-term parking.

So looking at where can we put those spaces so that your whether it's your like lifts, Ubers, that kind of transportation, or your your DoorDash, Uber Eats, those sorts of delivery services can do a quick in and quick out without stopping in the travel lane, without blocking an intersection to make it uh safer for the community.

But also looking at how do we balance parking with construction needs with other uh with increasing transit access things along those lines.

So that's the main idea.

Um and then uh tick marks is is a controversial one.

Um the current desire is for them to go away.

I'm going to yes.

Uh Commissioner Friedler, one of the things I've noticed in both parking in lots and on the street.

Drivers are leaving about that much space between the front of their car and the back of the car in front of them, so they can just pull out.

Well, if you take all of that space and add it up in a typical block, you're gonna have room for four more cars.

So we need to figure out a way to educate people.

Hey, back up a little bit, turn your wheel, then go just you know, it's called consideration.

Yeah, I I fully agree with you.

The the tick marks and or not having them is really there's there's not a lot of studies now that show that there's a benefit one way or the other.

A tick mark will define the spot, makes it easier for somebody who's maybe not so great at parking to figure out where they need to put their car.

Um, but without them, people might be able to park closer together, get a little bit more capacity, uh, but you could also get that person that really doesn't know how to park.

And and so now this three spaces turned into one.

So it there's really benefit or disbenefit to one or the other.

It's just a matter of practice.

Um optimize off-street parking assets is strategy number seven.

Um, and that again is kind of looking at both private and public options.

Um so we've had the discussion around like shared parking, what that would look like.

Um you could do it between businesses, you could have an employee uh shared parking agreement, um, you could have uh open your uh lot up to the public after hours.

Columbia Bank does that.

They allow the public to park on their lot after the bank is closed for the day and on weekends.

Um there's also looking at our underutilized lots, so one of those being the third and Washington lot.

Um I guess if we go to the next slide, there's the strategies or the the list of strategies.

Um Third and Washington uh is 120 spaces that is currently part of the library parking.

Um we've been advertising it as public parking for years, although it has we've not officially changed the land use away from that.

Uh we are actually in the process of officially changing the land use to public parking.

Um so it we don't it's no overnight parking is really the only rule on it right now, and that would continue to be in place.

Um, but it's rarely more than 50% used.

So we would really like to have an opportunity to increase the visibility of that lot.

Yes.

Yeah, question.

Yeah, so we are talking about the so-called library parking lot.

Okay, I think the information is wrong for a lot of people.

I always thought you cannot park there because I'm not going to the library.

I mean, I know that's probably totally silly, but um simple advertisement might actually solve that problem.

So we've done some advertising over the years that we have flyers that we've passed out to the businesses that say like free parking at third and Washington.

But by going through the land use process to officially change it to a public parking lot, we can then update the signage and do more do more advertising for it to make it another city public lot.

And it's a big public lot and it's kind of centrally located.

So we would love to make better utilization of our existing supply before we get into strategy eight, which is considering additional supply.

The big parts of this are shared parking, um, looking at our our less utilized areas and how do we better um increase their visibility?

So strategy eight uh strategized additional supply opportunities.

Um it was expensive and it took a very long time.

Um it still not reaching peak utilization, it's getting there closer.

Um right now, because we can look at our utilization rates downtown and say, okay, well, on average we're at about 65%.

That 85% is like the magic number in parking.

Um it generally means there's some available, it may not be right where you want it to be, but it'll be close enough.

Um so we start looking at, okay, well, if we do need additional supply, if we're looking at those hot spots and we know that the additional supply, the existing supply is like blocks away, how do we work with our community in providing that?

Um state of Oregon doesn't require parking to be built anymore.

Um but we also have partners.

We also have partners like the Madeira that built a one-for-one based on their analysis of the market, not based on the state's requirements.

Um so looking at opportunities in the future as development happens, is there an opportunity to create some short-term retail parking in the bottom if somebody decides to build parking?

Looking at like partnerships with the developers, partnerships with others who may want to come in and actually build parking, and that's okay.

You know, the land use process will go through it, but uh, how can the city be involved in that to like better serve the entire community?

And then the last strategy, strategy nine, um, is manage construction activity and temporary use at the curb.

Um we get a lot of requests for move-ins, we get a lot of requests uh now because there aren't because some of the sites downtown are very constrained and we do a lot of zero lot line development.

There's nowhere for people to do laydown, there's nowhere for people to do construction planning.

Our current code requires a traffic plan.

It doesn't require a parking plan.

We would really like it to require a parking plan for folks who are going to be parking in the downtown on our streets that are that we're trying to you know utilize for customers and create turnover um and we we would like a process to do that.

So, you know, whether it's subs or equipment or or even just a dumpster, you know, how do we coordinate that?

How does everybody know what's going on?

Um and and so just streamlining that process is really the idea behind the strategy.

So with that, I'll go back to um the questions that I asked at the beginning.

Um it so are these strategies and their sub-actions meeting kind of your experiences, what you've heard from the community?

Um if I'm missing something, please let me know.

We've talked a little bit about this, and then um, you know, if you have a priority, we're strobing here.

Um if there's a priority uh uh or a couple that you're you are really interested in.

Um I I mean we've talked along the way, but um with that, thank you very much for your time.

Um and I'll take any questions.

Molly, I appreciate all that.

Uh, excellent presentation.

Thank you.

Um I think is one of the more well-rounded ones we've seen that kind of covered everything, so I appreciate that.

Um Commissioner Bansky now is a great question.

Um is uh parking compliance currently monitored?

It becomes pretty important if you start charging for parking.

How do you know how long somebody's been parked in a particular space?

Does somebody keep walking around every 20 minutes or is it a vehicle that drives past?

So the parking pilot that we just completed has the vehicles that drove the routes had uh license plate readers mounted on the top of them.

The license plates acted as a digital chalk, if you will, you know, instead of chalking tires, they acted as a digital chalk.

And it would say, okay, license plate ABC 123 is here at 10 a.m.

When the car passed again at say 2 p.m.

If the car was still there, it knew it was over the two-hour time limit.

And that's how that and then a separate piece of software was used to then issue the citation.

So the license plate readers, they don't they can't pull information, they don't know who the the owner of the vehicle is, any of that.

It's literally just saying I've identified this car as here, I've identified this car is still here and it needs to move.

How forward?

There are a number of these strategies that are ineffective without proactive enforcement.

So on March 17th, council paused our request for a permanent downtown proactive enforcement program.

We are working with council and staff right now to provide them with the information they've requested to hopefully move forward with a permanent program.

Without that, something like paid parking would not work.

Okay, because I see some limitations though with the current system as you described it.

Especially if you take away the little yellow, not yellow, the white dashed lines and cause the park close to each other, you won't be able to read the license plates, right?

So they can read the front and the back and they can get out of the vehicle.

Um the contract that we had proposed on in March did provide some on foot services as well.

So there are the this technology is crazy smart, and I can't tell you how it reads it all.

But generally speaking, they have about a 95% read rate.

And the ambassador also recognize vehicles that are there all the time.

Vehicles that they know have permits.

So it's there's a human aspect and there's a digital aspect to it.

Are we gonna get everyone?

No, people get away with breaking the parking rules on a regular basis.

We all know that that happens.

Maybe I didn't get a ticket this time.

So yes, it's not a perfect system, but it is um it is highly effective.

Okay, so I'm just suggesting to think it through because motorcycles wouldn't get a ticket because basically you park your motorcycle with the rear wheel against the curb, which is the only place with a license plate.

So a vehicle going down the street wouldn't detect license plate on a motorcycle.

Um if it requires a vehicle to stop for somebody to keep getting out, you're gonna create traffic problems, aren't you?

The pilot had guidelines around stopping and safety.

We worked with the police department very closely on to make sure that we were not um creating a traffic hazard.

Right, just make sure we don't create more problems than we're trying to solve.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Uh thank you.

Uh Commissioner Moore I was curious as to whether the pause that occurred was related to budget because you were going to need an additional employee and the benefits and everything that go along with that.

So the proposal that we put forward was actually with a third-party vendor.

So the employee was their employee, not ours.

Um there were a number of concerns raised at that meeting uh and a request for additional information, so we are gathering that information for the council for their consideration in hopes that the pause will be short-lived.

Uh follow-up question.

Was a robotic meter made considered like a robotic version version of this?

I have not considered that, no.

But I thought it was a novel idea.

Uh additionally, I thought it was kind of funny that if I have a tendency if I go somewhere, this is my specific spot that I will park.

So should I choose to been there at 10 o'clock, went back home and came back and parked in the same spot at two o'clock, I would get in trouble.

So it would behoove me to park in a different spot if I go back to the same place in the same day.

Yes, we do have the so our city code is is that there's you have a a tenth of a mile rule, like after you've parked for two hours in a spec space, you have to move a tenth of a mile, and this technology actually can calculate that you moved far enough away.

That being said, if you park somewhere at 10 a.m.

and you leave for four hours and you come back, chances are it's the vehicle has registered that you already or the technology is registered that you left because you weren't there when it crossed, you know, it you were there, then you weren't there, then you were there again.

So it actually would start a new parking time limit.

It's crazy.

Yes.

Uh other questions.

Uh Vice Chair Bob.

Um can you explain so it sounds like the parking enforcement is on pause, but is it it was also a pilot program?

So that's to me that means there's a an expiration time, a sunset.

Correct.

So we sunseted the pilot.

What we proposed to council in March was a permanent program.

Okay.

So it was a transition from the pilot, taking lessons learned from the pilot, and we the preferred vendor.

Uh I understand that that's the question.

So it sounds like I understand that the pilot program house this period has been set.

Now the goal is to make it permanent.

Right.

So it's gone to council, they'll make a decision if it does, who does.

Uh I that's good.

That answers a lot of my questions.

When will we know if it becomes permanent or not?

I cannot answer that question.

Okay.

So what happens right now that it's on pause, this whole program, what's going on?

So there are some things that we can do that uh don't require parking enforcement.

We can work on shared parking agreements, we can work on the tick marks, we can work on branding, things along those lines, but there's a number of things that won't be effective.

Um so we ch you all helped us change the regulations on Broadway, for example.

We changed the time limits to better accommodate all of the restaurants and businesses successfully, I might add.

We've we've had a lot of positive feedback on the length and lengthening of the regulations.

We actually had a request prior to all of this from the old town side near resident or near restaurant row.

We want those too.

We want those later regulations also.

And so something like that would be ineffective without enforcement, and it would kind of be a disservice to the community to change those if we can't enforce it for them.

So limited again.

Yeah, so I I I am limited, and and there are policy decisions above my head.

No, I understand.

I'm not questioning that model.

And I'm not trying to interrupt that, but I get over time.

And that answers it out.

That wasn't my intention.

My uh my other question here for you is um you mentioned about, and I'm I'm on camera now permanently, so I frowned about the concept of the state of Oregon doesn't require parking.

I did that because we know that we get told all the time, but we have so many, our hands are basically taught and chained of to what we can do.

We really know that.

Um I think it's more the public understanding and knowing that.

But here's my suggestion is I would like to see in the future how our city can incentivize construction for them to build and incorporate parking for when they're creating housing.

We have a competing interest of how do we use our land.

Do we provide parking?

We need it, want it, or do we provide housing?

Which is only again, got 20 year olds here in 10 more years there, they're gonna need housing.

We need a plan for the future, so we don't continue to have this big mess that we have.

I think there's something there that how I don't know, I'm just giving you more problems, probably and probably hopefully more of a suggestion, but I think it's something important that we need to work with them, incentivize.

When we incentivize the construction industry, when I was in planning commission, they love it, money drives them.

It's the truth.

And and that does I appreciate that.

That also does go along with that concept of like is there a private public partnership that could happen around a development where the any parking that is developed isn't just one use.

Yeah, but I would caution you with that because we're going also, and I can tell you that was a little bit of what happened.

Help me out here, Commissioners, when we were trying to help the school on haul.

There's some private parking there.

Businesses, beautiful parking lots there.

But those if landlords are aware that there is a liability also with that.

So easier said than done, me telling you, I think that's going to become harder down the road to get our private partnerships to willingly open it up that way, because for some it's not going to be worth it.

So I'm just being honest and just open up.

I don't want to necessarily bank on those kinds of ideas.

They're not going to work, Molly.

So I I don't disagree with you.

We've heard a lot about liability.

Um there's also so there's like building a garage together or a lot together during a development project where there's everybody has skin in the game, and then there that's very different from hey, you across the street, you have a private private parking lot, can I use it?

So you know, kind of there's so many different methods of shared parking.

Um and so when I talk about incentivizing parking during development, I'm thinking more everybody's working together to develop the parking versus what your example with the school where that's much harder, I agree with you, and then the liability becomes a question.

And we have had questions around well, could the city take on some of that liability when we've talked about shared parking.

Um it's a question that we we do continue to talk about with our city attorney's office.

Again, just something to consider would be great.

It's working with them, they're they're probably the better people to talk to the construction industry, the business people there.

They know their numbers better of how and what type of incentive could help and encourage them so they can provide and incorporate their own parking in their own building.

I mean, again, I'm going back to the realities of money.

In the future, is there something that we as a city can senize and help tax abatement again?

There's we need to get creative so they can have that and provide that as an amenity.

Not because you don't have to have it as a mean you can't encourage it.

Yeah, I appreciate that.

Thank you.

Uh thank you.

So uh uh couple of uh you asked about the uh strategies and and whatnot.

Um I appreciate that uh the time zones were mentioned and a difference in time zones.

I know there was a question.

Um let me step back.

Uh uh I like the strategies, I like the considerations this time.

I like that there are nine very clear ones in the past.

There have been a lot of it feels it feels like the the not you, but it it feels like there've just been all these things going on and all these ideas and everything here.

So I appreciate that there's a sense of strategy.

What's interesting though is the message that we hear is the traffic commission, which is one of the other I here in times, like that's not a problem, but then over here there is a problem, right?

Um the time zones you mentioned was working really well at restaurant row.

However, at the public hearing to make everything along Broadway, for instance two-hour parking.

There were several people who said that's not gonna work.

The guy had a 15-minute business that was very designed for people to come in and go, and two-hour parking didn't help him at all, right?

So I appreciate that they're looking at two four and and multiple hours because Portland or anywhere you go doesn't have it, it's not two hours across the whole city, right?

I mean, Vancouver does that, it makes no sense because anybody that's working they have to go get a permit, or I have to park somewhere outside and then kind of commute in.

Um I appreciate the comments here.

The other thing that was missing, I think, from the strategy though, was the same thing.

The what is the target?

What what what are you trying what are you trying to accomplish?

Are you trying to get people into downtown or are you trying to find places for residents to park because the designed walkability plan that just passed with city council is meant to get people to not drive anywhere and to stay in their pockets within all of these subdivisions.

Yet South Cooper Mountain has no commercial zone anywhere in it, right?

So people are gonna have to drive.

But if you're trying to get them to come into the town, then the to me, the two parts that you were asking about is uh we've heard I think there's 1440 storage units within the city limits, which means that somebody has figured out how many parking places are to Commissioner Friedler's point.

Yet with no lines on there, that's that's an estimate, but we use that as a count against also like the permits.

So I think that the I appreciate that you brought up the permit piece too, because for and you'd made a distinction between residential and commercial, right?

Between the people who need to employ parking during the day and then the residents at night.

So I I definitely appreciate that because uh my understanding from not reading that was that there were 167 or 175 total ones within the city, but now there's now you now you can have more than that, right?

But it was against uh 1400 parking spaces when you looked at the percentage of scanning.

So there are we have a cap right now on the number of permits that we'll issue.

That's uh that is 175.

You're correct.

That's a on the number of permits we will issue, but we know that there's some turnover.

So I think it's actually 140 actual permitted spaces within the downtown zone, within the permit zone that we have established through code.

Um so there would be some code changes to sort of shift those locations as well as those numbers, and then of course split the two programs and to try to find the better balance to your question or or point about what's the target not included in this presentation, but part of the final report that that is this plan is actually a who benefits for each of these strategies.

To your question or or point about what's the target not included in this presentation, but part of the final report that that is this plan is actually a who benefits for each of these strategies.

And because they're not each of these strategies is going to have the same benefit to each of our users.

So we have four sort of key users that we've identified.

It's residents, businesses, customers and visitors, as as one, and employees.

And and the reason that businesses and employees are separate is because they actually do have different goals and different needs in mind.

Um so each of these strategies will actually show who sort of gets the highest benefit from those strategies.

Um because we we can't we can't be truthful and say, oh, this is gonna benefit everyone.

Some of them more so than others, but but there are people that will benefit, you know, employees are going to benefit more from an employee program, residents are gonna benefit more from a residential program, customers and visitors are gonna benefit more from curb management.

So those those are the site sorts of things that there's there's a lot more detail in the plan than I presented tonight.

And so um we we we are focused on on how each of these elements will affect the the main users in the downtown.

Thank you.

And I think the last point question, which really really was your, you know, what did you what did you not hear?

What I didn't hear in the presentation, but I think it was kind of alluded to was um the actual usage of streets.

Okay, there are still the the dining tables in the middle of the street, and yet you're telling people that we need more parking, but we keep opening that up.

And then I I don't want to bring it up over and over, but that in a report from um a recent report, uh the First Street Commons is still technically in review after six and a half years, it costs the city 180,000 according to the report we heard to keep it open each year, 180,000.

It's still in review.

If if it's parking, do we need it or do they not?

And that didn't get brought up about how we manage non-car non-vehicle items.

So a little bit of that is covered in the in the curb management.

So street seats are a curb management issue.

Um so and and you know, you all are familiar with the loop uh project coming in that also has the plan to eliminate or shift some parking around.

Um so we we do work very closely internally with all of the folks trying to manage all of that.

The commons, as an example, took away approximately 12 spaces.

Let's say third in Washington is a block and a half away, two blocks away.

Those 12 spaces are available right there.

Um as part of that, we've also said, well, is there a mobility issue with the fact that that whole block is blocked off?

Um because you know, how do we accommodate somebody that might be uh more mobility limited or need an ADA space?

And so we are working um with the loop designers with Jabra and his team and with our downtown developers and and trying to identify spaces where we can prioritize ADA accessibility needs as well.

So we have so many competing uses for the curb, and uh there's not a perfect solution to address them all.

But yes, as we as parking gets taken away, and again, that shifts somebody somewhere else, we have to figure out how to balance that.

And so this combination of strategies is meant to try to find a balance that that keeps most people happy.

My job does not make people happy.

There is no way in parking that everyone I'm gonna be able to satisfy everyone's needs and make everyone happy.

Uh so with that in mind, my goal is to say, okay, with all of these competing needs, how can we best serve the community through these strategies and through our partnerships with our development with our economic development with traffic engineering to find that balance, and it's never gonna be perfect.

I and and I would never make that promise.

But um, I really do appreciate all of your input and your feedback and your partnership on these efforts.

Um and and thank you for taking the time.

Sorry, I don't I don't mean to be kind of.

I just uh um I just written in at least for my part of closing.

I I appreciate that they're that they're all again that the strategy here and they're kind of divided out as opposed to before it just felt like here's all the stuff.

So having divided them though, but like and um Vice Chair Bob made some excellent comments about like the the parking and whatnot, but then that brought in within that it wasn't a blanket.

Each I think the key thing to take away that everybody should remember when the presentations are done, is that each strategy is not a single unit by itself.

There is a pro and a con to each one of those, and the fact like the it paid parking, how do you enforce it?

But then the parking storage unit, do you put a tick mark or not?

Right?

It is not like well, you're gonna we're gonna fix these, right?

And I think that's my only comment when you go away.

So I appreciate that you have we're hearing a better dialogue about how to here's the strategies and within it, their divisions as opposed to this is one solution and the only one, and then this is one because they're not, they're all interrelated somehow.

Yes, thank you.

Yeah, by sure.

I think it's something easy, hopefully on a happy note.

When you you when the library parking lot gets reclassified, um, I would encourage that to be called as a public parking library parking lot.

When it's referred as to third in Washington, many people don't know.

And unless you have that other concept, even I, until we were here, I'm like, what do you mean third in Washington?

And when you say parking lot, the library, everybody goes there quickly.

It's like, oh, that one, that makes sense.

You know, the the market, etc.

Just simple naming can go a long way.

Right, thank you.

All right, thank you.

Uh other final comments, anything?

And again, thank Molly, thank you so much for your time and effort.

I appreciate everything and uh excellent.

Thank you.

All right.

Uh with that in mind, then we're done in the presentation portion.

And uh is there any new business, Mr.

Casho.

No, we we don't have any new business uh this time.

Thank you.

Any new business to be brought by commissioners?

Excellent, thank you.

Uh is there any old business then?

Oh, none.

Excellent.

Last one then will we be meeting next month?

Do you know?

Uh we don't we do not have any issues to bring to the commission for review, so we will not have a meeting in May.

Okay.

Excellent, thank you.

Uh and then I guess a final note, which I just maybe should have gone under new business.

There are several surveys by the city right now that uh if you're interested in filling out, which don't all have to do with traffic or transportation, but there are definitely some surveys out about some of the projects going on.

Uh we saw a presentation for Alan in that rework, so that would be an excellent which we had the presentation last time.

So there are some surveys to fill out, make sure you get those in and uh same for everybody and are they all on the website, you know, those it would be very easily accessed.

Yeah, I think if you go by project, right?

You can find them on there.

Okay, with that in mind, then we are adjourned.

Thank you very much.