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Berkeley City Council Meeting Summary - March 24, 2026

City CouncilTuesday, March 24, 2026
BodyBerkeley, California
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, March 24, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:01

Okay, thank you so much, everyone.

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I am calling to order the Berkeley City Council meeting.

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Today is Tuesday, March 24th, 2026.

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It is 6.23 p.m.

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Thank you all very much for your patience.

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And um, oh, our clerk is on his way back.

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So sorry about that, I jumped the gun, Mark.

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Um, if you could please take the role when you are settled.

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Recording in progress.

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Taking the role for the regular meeting, Councilmember Kesserwani.

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Here.

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Tapman, present.

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Bartlett here.

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Trago.

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O'Keefe.

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Here.

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Blackaby here.

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Here.

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Humbert, present and Mayor Ishii.

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Here.

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Okay.

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Corma's present.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I have a statement to read out first.

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With respect to information item number 27 regarding the settlement between Berkeley's People Alliance and the City in Alameda County Superior Court, case number 24C V064 980, California Court of Appeals case number A17245.

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The City Council hereby commits consistent with the Court of Appeals ruling to no longer invoke government code section 54957.9 as is as it is currently drafted to recess a meeting and reconvene it in a different room or otherwise relocate the meeting.

1:47

Thank you.

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Okay.

2:14

Okay, and also to report out language for the um item number one, the city council met in closed session on March 16, 2026, pursuant to government code section 54956.9D, and provided directions to outside council and approved a settlement by compromise and release with open future medical care as to a workers' compensation matter, assigned claim number BER 2300091, and WCAB case number ADJ 17101925.

2:49

And item number two, the city council met in closed session on March 16, 2026, pursuant to government code section 5495956.9, subsection D, and provided directions to outside council and approved a settlement by compromise and release with a release of future medical care, or in the alternative by stipulations and with request for award with open future medical care.

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As to a workers' compensation matter, assigned claim number BER 240044 and WCAB case number ADJ 18 18 386036.

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Okay.

3:32

Thank you very much, everyone.

3:35

All right, we have two serial ceremonial matters this evening.

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And I am going to start with the Holocaust Remembrance Day Proclamation.

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It was requested by Councilmember Terry Taplan's office, and they are leading the coordination this year for the Holocaust Remembrance Day event.

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So thank you very much for that.

3:56

Today uh the proclamation will be received by Anna Rabkin.

4:01

Anna, are you here?

4:02

I think you're here somewhere.

4:03

There you are.

4:04

Yay.

4:06

Who is our city who was our city auditor for 17 years?

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So thank you very much for your service.

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The actual day of Holocaust Remembrance Day is April 12th.

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And also Council will allocate D13 funds for the event at tonight's council meeting.

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So thank you so much, Anna, for being here with us.

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Berkeley's 23rd annual Holocaust Remembrance Day.

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Whereas the Holocaust was the state-sponsored systematic persecution, annihilation of European Jews by Nazi Germany and its collaborators between 1933 and 1945, six million Jews were murdered.

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Roma, people with disabilities, Polish people, gay men, Jehovah's Witnesses, Soviet prisoners of war, and political dissidents were likewise subjected to systematic systematic persecution, oppression, and death under Nazi tyranny.

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And whereas Holocaust Remembrance Day stands as a solemn reminder of the dangers of hatred, bigotry, and anti-Semitism, and underscores the vital importance of education, vigilance, and action to ensure such atrocities are never repeated.

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And whereas the City of Berkeley reaffirms its commitment to human human dignity, tolerance, and mutual respect, while standing firmly against anti-Semitism and all forms of hatred and discrimination.

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And whereas it is our shared responsibility to preserve the truth about the Holocaust as a cornerstone of our collective memory and to honor the resilience and courage of survivors who were able to rebuild their lives.

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Now, therefore, be it resolved that I, Adina Ishi, mayor of the city of Berkeley, do hereby proclaim April 12th, 2026 as Holocaust Remembrance Day in the city of Berkeley, in memory of those who were murdered in honor of those who have survived, as well as the rescuers and liberators.

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Be it further proclaimed that I call upon all residents to join in remembrance of the victims of the Holocaust to educate themselves about the history of the Holocaust and to recommit to building a more just, tolerant, and compassionate society free from anti-Semitism and hatred of any kind.

6:03

Thank you.

6:03

Did you want to say thank you very much, Maya and Council members and Councilmember Tepplen.

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I'm very proud that Berkeley is the first, I think, of any city to have a Holocaust, a secular one.

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So it's very important that we're doing this, especially now.

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And I also want to remember that it was uh former council member Worthington, Chris Worthington, who started uh and very generously started contributing to this event in 2002, so he was way ahead.

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I don't have to tell all of you how incredibly important it is right now that we remember that history, that we teach that history, and that we make sure that it never happens again.

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And unfortunately, we'll work, we're living now with very, very dark times, and there are an awful lot of people who are under tremendous uh in tremendous danger.

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And we have to come together as a community to help those people and make sure that they're safe.

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So thank you again, and I hope all of you will participate on April 12th and spread the day.

7:35

Spread the word about it.

7:36

Thank you again.

7:38

Thank you, Anna.

7:45

Uh, and quick announcement.

7:48

Um looks like there's a blue Subaru Forester that is parked in a driveway on Browning Street, and the homeowner is calling the police.

7:58

So if your car is a blue forester with a license plate 9 UE227, might want to attend to that.

8:19

Okay, we have one more ceremonial item, but folks, there are a lot of seats that are kind of open in the middle, and there are people who are standing or sitting on the ground.

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So if you could please move inward so that way more folks can sit down, I would appreciate it.

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And there are some seats up here.

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Uh it says reserved seating for those with disabilities.

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So, you know, if you have a disability and you want to come forward and sit, please, I want to encourage you to do that.

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I want folks to be comfortable.

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And okay.

8:45

All right, so we have one more proclamation.

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That's for Elaine Williams Bloom.

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It was requested by Councilmember Bartlett, and it is a proclamation honoring the life of Elaine Bloom, who passed away on February 24th, 2026.

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Elaine's son Russell is here, and we met a little bit earlier to receive the proclamation.

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Um, so I will read it to you now.

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Honoring the life and legacy of Elaine Williams Bloom.

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Whereas Elaine Williams Bloom was an educator and parent who was a lifelong advocate for social justice until she passed away on February 24th, 2026, and whereas Elaine grew up in New Jersey with her two brothers, Walker and Kenneth, and her sister Diane, finding homes in New York City, Greenwich Village, Pasadena, California, St.

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Thomas, U.S.

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Virgin Islands, and Berkeley, California, where she embodied her strong will, sharp mind, and sense of fairness everywhere.

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And whereas founder of an innovative daycare called Gingerbread in Greenwich Village in the early 1970s, which provided a nurturing environment for generations of young children to express and develop their voices, and whereas Elaine demonstrated her values by being involved in civil rights protest, community organizing, and citizen participation, and modeled that advocacy for fairness and justice is a lifelong responsibility.

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And whereas Elaine demonstrated her values by being involved in civil rights protest, community organizing, and citizen participation, and modeled that advocacy for fairness and justice is a lifelong responsibility.

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And whereas at Berkeley, Elaine participated in tenant organizing with her neighbors at the Harriet Tubman Apartments, where their collaboration created a community that received recognition from the city of Berkeley in 2018.

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And whereas Elaine Williams Bloom will be remembered by her sister Diane, her brother Kenneth, her daughter-in-law Michelle, her grandchildren Gianni and Marco, and also the many friends, neighbors, and community members who have been positively influenced by Lane's integrity, strength, and lifetime commitment to the pursuit of justice and dignity for all.

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Now, therefore, be it resolved that I, Adina Ishi, Mayor of the City of Berkeley, do hereby honor and celebrate the life and legacy of Elaine Williams Bloom and express our deepest gratitude for her lifelong commitment to advocacy.

10:53

If I if I may uh just offer my appreciation, Mary Ishi for uh your reading of this uh declaration.

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Uh my mother, as you mentioned, was a lifelong advocate and activist.

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Uh it would be important to her for me to say out loud here uh that um she would encourage you to remain committed to protecting the vulnerable, uh including the elderly, um, to remain focused on accountability and justice.

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Um and uh I know that she would have asked me to appreciate your patience with her over the years, uh, as she was a frequent flyer, as they say, uh, and certainly was committed to moving forward um issues of justice, particularly around the uh tenancy at the Tubman apartments.

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Thank you all for your support all these years.

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Apologize.

12:38

Apologies.

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Um we also have uh adjournment in memory for Marcia Poole, which was requested by Councilmember Traegu.

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And so um I will pass it over to him to share a few words.

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Uh thank you so much.

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Uh, this will be an excerpt of uh a proclamation that will be presented for celebration of life in April.

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Um Marsha Poole uh was a community member and a friend and advocate to many.

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Uh in 1999, Marsha demonstrated extraordinary courage when she intervened to prevent a Berkeley landlord from concealing the death of a 13-year-old girl caused by carbon monoxide poisoning alongside of uh Dr.

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Diana Russell.

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They organized, documented, and pursued accountability through the courts, persistently uh demanding just decisions.

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Their efforts contributed to greater awareness and helped create changes in California's human trafficking laws.

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Uh in 2019, Marcia curated and directed creativity unhoused at the Expressions Gallery in Berkeley, a landmark exhibition highlighting the artwork of people experiencing homelessness, reflecting her belief in the dignity and potential of every person, and bringing together artists, advocates in the community in celebration and recognition.

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Marcia was a tireless advocate for tenants, unhoused indivisible individuals and disabled residents, consistently attending Berkeley City Council meetings, supporting initiatives such as Force They Came for the Homeless, confronting injustice and advancing tenant protections, including Measure Y, which strengthen safeguards for seniors and disabled residents.

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Um to say uh uh a few words in a minute.

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Three cheers from Marsha.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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She really cared about Berkeley, honestly, honestly.

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Honestly, honestly.

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And what amazed me about this my wife, uh she never gave up.

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Um I'm very proud the city was came to agree to it.

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And please come to the celebration of life.

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Uh it will be soon.

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And uh it'll be a party with song with poetry, with conversation with everything.

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So thank you, thank you, thank you very much to the city of Berkeley, and thank you for the city council.

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Thank you so much.

15:48

Thank you, everyone.

15:50

Um, okay, so we are now moving on to our city manager comments.

15:55

Thank you, Madam Mayor.

15:56

Um, a couple of comments.

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One uh on the consent calendar to remove item 13, which is a pavement safety improvement project contracts.

16:05

There were a couple of proposals that were inadvertently left off of this list, so we'll bring that item back.

16:11

And then also a reminder for uh the peace and justice commission item 16 that uh as we talked about at agenda and rules that should be a budget referral.

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Um that uh that recommendation does have costs associated with it that are not budgeted, so asking that that item go to the budget uh process.

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Thank you.

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16.

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Thank you very much.

16:34

Oh, and you're already here in time for our city auditor comments.

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Our city auditor is here right in the front.

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And then I think there are still some empty seats, so I just want to make sure folks are able to sit down.

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Um if folks can make room, there's also some seats up here in the front.

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Okay.

17:05

Thank you so much.

17:06

Um, so tonight I'm going to um we're gonna do a short presentation on item number 18.

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This is our first whistleblower report.

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And let me see here.

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Okay.

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Um, I have with me Erin Mullen, whistleblower manager.

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Um, she's also a certified fraud examiner, and um she will say more about our whistleblower program and provide counsel and the public with this report.

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So thank you, Erin.

17:39

All right.

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So this is our first um report that we're sharing publicly from our whistleblower program, and I am glad to walk you through it today.

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I'm gonna share a little bit about what we investigated, what we found, and what we recommend to ensure stronger controls.

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Um, but before we jump in to the report, I would like to briefly introduce the program.

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So this whistleblower program allows city employees and officials to report concerns of fraud, waste, and abuse of city resources.

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Reports can be submitted anonymously and are kept confidential with protections in place to safeguard the identity of individuals who come forward and also individuals who participate in our investigations.

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We issue public reports when we identify substantiated findings or issues that warrant transparency or broader awareness.

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This is our first public report, but we expect uh more in the future.

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We also plan to expand the hotline to the public, but that expansion is currently paused due to anticipated budget constraints and to ensure we have the capacity to review all reports and prioritize high-risk investigations.

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Now let's turn to this specific investigation.

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So we received a report in late 2024 alleging that an ambulance had been purchased without prior city council approval.

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Under the Berkeley Municipal Code, City Council approval is required for purchases over a hundred thousand dollars before the city can be committed to that expenditure.

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This requirement exists to ensure oversight, transparency, and responsible use of public funds.

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So in response to this allegation, we conducted an investigation to determine whether the allegation was substantiated and to identify any breakdowns in the purchasing process.

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We found that the allegation was substantiated.

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A former city employee committed the city to a two 286,000 dollar ambulance purchase without the authority to do so and without completing a required purchasing steps.

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First, the ambulance was purchased without required approvals, including council approval.

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That resulted in 286,000 commitment without oversight.

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When the ambulance arrived, the city could not pay the vendor immediately.

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The vendor then withheld the title of the vehicle and delayed its use.

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Second, council approved the purchase retroactively, but it wasn't clearly disclosed that the city was already committed to the purchase.

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This reduced transparency for council and the public.

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Together, these issues show how bypassing purchasing controls can lead to financial risk and limited oversight.

20:35

Folks, please, we have a presentation.

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Don't interrupt her.

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Based on what we found, our recommendations focused in four key areas.

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First, making the rules clear that no purchases should move forward without a requisition or purchase order or the required council approval.

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Second, creating clear escalation steps so issues are raised earlier if those rules aren't followed.

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Third, clarifying roles through targeted training so staff understand who has has authority in the purchasing process.

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And finally, improving transparency by notifying council when standard purchasing steps are bypassed.

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Together, these steps strengthen oversight and prevent similar issues in the future.

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And with that, I would like to thank city departments for their assistance with this investigation.

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And thank you all for listening.

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Thank you very much.

21:28

I appreciate the presentation and thank you.

21:40

Go ahead, Vice Mayor.

21:42

Thank you.

21:42

I don't have any questions.

21:43

I just really want to thank you for your work and your commitment to this.

21:47

Thanks.

21:49

Absolutely.

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Thank you.

21:51

And Councilmember Humbert?

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Yes, likewise.

21:53

I don't have any questions, but I want to thank you for this really important and good work for adding out this problem and coming up with ways to avoid it in the future.

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Thank you.

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Absolutely.

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Any other of my council colleagues.

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Also, really important.

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Obviously, very disconcerting this purchase.

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But I am very confident that we're putting things into place to prevent things like this happening from in the future.

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And I think that this really shows the benefit of having this whistleblower program.

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So thank you very much for the work that you're doing.

22:30

I also want to see if the city manager wants to add anything because I know you've also implemented some of these changes already, and so I want to make sure you have time to address that if you'd like.

22:52

That's great.

22:52

Thank you both so much.

22:53

Thank you.

22:56

Okay.

22:57

We will now take public comment on non-agenda matters.

23:02

Okay.

23:02

If you have public comment for anything that's not on this agenda.

23:06

Right.

23:07

So we'll draw five cards for the in-person speakers, and then we will go to the first five hands raised on the Zoom.

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And again, this is for items that are not on the agenda.

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Um when I announce the names, you can come up in any order.

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And it's too late to put in a card, so don't bother.

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If you're speaking about you know the police stuff or the flock cameras, this is not the time for that.

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So the five in-person speakers are uh Russell Bates, Carol Morosevic, CKD, Durant, and looks maybe like um Paola D5.

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So you can come up in any order, you'll have one minute to speak.

24:11

Oh, okay.

24:12

Folks, I know there's a lot of whispering going on.

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I I know there are a lot of people here, so even if you're speaking quietly, it's gonna reverberate.

24:20

So I want to hear from Carol, but also Mark, if there's a way that we can maybe open more doors or turn off the fan or something, it's starting to get quite warm.

24:30

Okay.

24:42

If your name was called, feel free to come up a little bit closer so I can keep track of who's whose name was called.

24:48

Thank you.

24:51

Um exploitation of vulnerable homeowners.

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This recommendation from the commission on status of women went to land use a year after it was passed at the commission.

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And in on June 10, 2025, with a qualified positive recommendation.

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The council referred to another commission.

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It never went back to council.

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This is nine and a half months later.

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And this was a qualified positive recommendation from uh land use.

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Uh second, uh well, I I am have been the author of multiple recommendations from commissions that are just lost in the process.

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In fact, ironically, another one I'm gonna pass to you uh uh was addressed at the agenda committee uh on in August 2020, you know, almost six years ago, and that recommendation was also a qualified positive recommendation, and this recommendation was addressing tracking commission recommendations by compiling them, and the recommendation has qualified positive uh to explore short-term solutions and recommend that the commission write.

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Thank you, Carol.

25:58

If I could just finish it, so I'm sorry, can you reintroduce to Carl?

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Feel free to feel free to write us about it.

26:04

Thank you.

26:16

Yep, as soon as the person's finished, you can come right up.

26:23

Mayor and the council, you speak tonight on new zoning density ruse.

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Yeah, you actively enable criminal density fraud at 2425 durant, a developer snitches 19 unit high density bonus with one hand while claiming 15 units with the other, just to pocket the salaries of a mandate on site manager per state law for 16 and more units.

26:45

You allow him to have his cake while the tenants start with safety.

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I expose this fraud in front of the mayor, the zoning board, and the council on October 9th and February 23rd, and you voted yes and uphold the permit anyway, ever since the city has stayed silent.

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This is not a mistake, it's a calculated at the Ministry of Silence.

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This permit is void under strict section 1090, fellow felony convict interest to the council to a paratas greed over life safety, proposal ministerial duty, stay this void permit.

27:20

The public's watching the record is clean.

27:23

Thank you.

27:32

Good evening, uh and council members.

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My name is PJ Singh.

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I represent the Sikh American community.

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I'm here to voice my opinion about a street that was named after a South Asian woman called a guy, who was a wealthy wife of a spy who came here to spy on the people that were organizing for India's freedom.

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One of them people were my own great grandfather who came here in 1907.

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The story that was presented here was a story of a woman who was a victim who was uh uh ran out of Berkeley.

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When we discovered uh going back, we were happy that someone from our community was represented.

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But what we discovered was totally the opposite.

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A wealthy socialite wife of a colonial spy who was sent here to spy on his own people who were making dollar and fifty came here with over $25,000 when a home in Berkeley was under a thousand dollars in North Berkeley.

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So we have the evidence.

28:46

Thank you.

28:47

Thanks.

28:47

Thanks for your comment.

28:56

So $286,000 on an ambulance person.

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That is so pathetic that that could even happen.

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And um, I hope you're gonna remember the Holocaust that's going on in Gaza, the genocide.

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It's eight hundred and ninety-nine days.

29:15

Eight hundred and ninety-nine days of the genocide.

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People are still getting murdered every day.

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A woman got murdered that was carrying twins over the weekend.

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Twins.

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They killed them all.

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They're wiping out family members generations, not only in Gaza, but now in Iran, Yemen, and all these other countries.

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And what have you done?

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Absolutely nothing.

29:46

Say it again.

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War.

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What is it good for?

29:50

Absolutely nothing.

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And you all should be ashamed of yourselves.

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Free it's all for you.

30:01

Thank you for your comments.

30:03

Thank you.

30:03

Your time is up.

30:04

Evil.

30:04

Thank you.

30:06

We're gonna take our online comments.

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We have Russell, your name, your name was called.

30:23

Hi, everybody.

30:24

I'm looking forward at some point to see uh Gaza Genocide Remembrance Day.

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Because it's so necessary to point it out that seven billion dollars of weapons just got sent to the Zionists and city.

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This will enable them to keep on killing people in every country around the area there.

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And keep on killing the people in Iran.

30:50

Iran is fighting back.

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It's uh it's doing a lot other than the mainstream media will let people realize.

30:58

But Gaza needs to be remembered.

31:02

It needs to be remembered.

31:03

There's a genocide going on there, and it's not gonna stop until the people of America make it stop.

31:10

Thank you very much.

31:11

Thank you, Russell.

31:20

Okay, so we'll go to the first five hands raised on the Zoom.

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And the first speaker is Whitney Sparks.

31:34

Hello.

31:35

Can you hear me?

31:37

I'm just calling to uh encourage you to cancel the contract with Flock.

31:43

Um this is just for public comment on uh items that are not on the agenda.

31:49

So you can come back and and comment during that time.

31:53

Thank you.

31:58

Okay.

32:00

Okay.

32:02

Uh next is uh caller with a phone number ending in 211.

32:13

Hi, uh good evening.

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Well, uh our slow manager again, hand you some people read it in this one.

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Just don't ignore it.

32:22

What Donald Trump have done under Netanyahu has been dreaming for 30 years to attack Iran is totally against American laws, international laws.

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And it is a genocide of Rand people after when everything is said and done.

32:37

About half billion.

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Uh Gazan, men, women, and children were killed, murdered, burned, sliced, and evaluated by American bombs.

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Shame on all of us, and we'll not let it happen.

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Especially Jewish people, don't switch through the Holocaust.

32:55

Oh, why are we doing another Holocaust?

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Peace on earth.

33:01

Thank you very much.

33:04

Okay, next is M.

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Jervis.

33:12

Hello, hello.

33:13

Can you hear me?

33:14

Yes.

33:14

Yeah, my name is Matthew Jervison with the downtown Berkeley Association, and I'm here to invite all of Berkeley to join us for Make Music Day on June 21st.

33:25

Thank you to Councilmember Shoshana O'Keefe for introducing us to the organization.

33:30

This is actually on the yeah, it's on the agenda.

33:33

So we're we're coming.

33:34

Oh, it is.

33:35

Yes, apologies.

33:36

So we're actually doing um non-agenda items right now or comments on things that are not on the agenda.

33:42

It's on the consent calendar.

33:43

Yeah, it's on the consent calendar, so there's a separate time for that.

33:46

Okay, so this is for non-agenda comments.

33:49

Nothing on the agenda.

33:52

Della Luna, next speaker.

33:57

Hi, yes.

33:58

I wanted to say that it's been more than 30 days or right around a month that the pedestrian crosswalk by the Ashby Bart has not been repainted.

34:07

There's been construction there, it's been allegedly improved, but the paint has not gone up.

34:13

So you can't actually see the walkway.

34:14

It's not painted across the street.

34:16

There's no indication that the pedestrian walkway is still there.

34:19

And I it think um people it there's elements where you all are making progress, and I mean the city, and with the improvements, but it also there's a missing element to it, almost like maybe you're using AI to plan the construction project, but you need to close those gaps and get the costwalks or whatever you remake, finish the project.

34:39

And if you can't finish it, then don't start it until you can make sure it's finished because people are being harmed in the crosswalks.

34:45

Um, there's a yellow curb at Russell and MLK, and it's not painted.

34:48

There's no reflectors on it.

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This is also um, there's other curbs on MLK that do have reflectors.

34:54

So why would there not be reflectors on the curb that was put in the middle of the roadway at Russell and MLK?

35:00

And lastly, I live in District 3.

35:01

Thanks, sir.

35:03

Next is East Shore, East Shore Alliance.

35:10

Hey, confirming everyone can hear me.

35:13

Yes.

35:13

Fantastic.

35:14

My name's Ted Steen.

35:15

I run EShore Alliance FC.

35:17

We're a Berkeley nonprofit youth soccer club serving over a thousand youth in and around the community.

35:23

I'm here to strongly support the proposed $300 million Go Bond measure, specifically to improve Gabe Cotaffo fields at Harrison Park, including turfing the fields and upgrading the bathrooms.

35:33

This is should be a top priority as it relates to the health and safety of our community.

35:38

Right now, access to safe and reliable field space is a big challenge, not just for the youth, but for all recreation goers in Berkeley.

35:46

Field is closed six months out of the year, and even longer due to the extreme conditions with the fields being in a failing state, as stated by the Berkeley Parks and Rec Division.

35:59

For many families, uh soccer isn't just a sport.

36:02

It's a consistent positive space for physical activity, mentorship, and community.

36:06

Turf and gate cutoff would make a huge difference, providing safe, durable surface that we can use year-round.

36:12

Upgrading the bathrooms is also important.

36:14

Thanks for your comments.

36:15

I'm sorry, you're out of time.

36:18

Next is Marr.

36:21

Should be allowed to talk.

36:26

There you go.

36:27

As we go into this meeting tonight, I want people to remember that our police accountability board is completely collapsed because this city is entirely unwilling to listen to the accountability recommendations they have put out time and time again.

36:50

Thank you for your comments.

36:52

Folks.

36:53

And the last speaker is uh Jim.

36:56

Jim, you're the last speaker.

37:05

Go ahead, Jim.

37:06

You should be able to unmute.

37:12

Jim.

37:15

All right.

37:16

We'll go to somebody else.

37:20

Let's go to Daniel Brownson.

37:27

Hi.

37:28

We're on just non-agenda public comment right now, right?

37:32

Yep.

37:33

Okay.

37:34

So I'm I'm not sure if it has been placed on an agenda yet, but I'm strongly opposed to the idea of uh re-legalizing the use of tear gas in Berkeley.

37:51

Um I have never seen an instance of tear gas used in any way except on protests.

38:00

It's the only thing I've ever seen it used on.

38:03

Um, and that's going to be what it's used on if it's permitted to be used again by the Berkeley PD.

38:10

Uh it was banned for a reason.

38:13

Um we should trust our you know, prior judgment and keep it.

38:21

There's no reason to use chemical weapons in Berkeley.

38:26

Thank you.

38:29

That's it.

38:33

Okay.

38:34

Great.

38:34

I love the positive engagement.

38:36

It's just that is totally encouraged.

38:38

It's just the booing that's not.

38:39

So it's totally fine if you want to clap for things.

38:41

I've I'm very supportive of it.

38:45

Wow.

38:46

Comedians out there tonight.

38:48

All right.

38:49

So we're now moving on to our consent calendar.

38:53

And there's an urgency item from Councilmember Kessarwani, so I will let her um speak to that.

39:03

Thank you very much, Madam Mayor.

39:05

I am putting forward an urgent item.

39:07

It is posted online, and it's also available in hard copy in the supplemental communications packet in the back.

39:15

First, I want to thank my co-sponsors, uh, Terry Taplin, Ben Bartlett, and Brent Blackaby.

39:21

I'm the council representative for this park, which is now named uh Cesar Chavez Park.

39:28

So I felt it was important to take urgent action to respond to the shocking investigation published by the New York Times on March 18th about the substantiated accusations of sexual violence committed by Cesar Chavez.

39:42

This investigation was published after the deadline to submit items for this meeting had passed.

39:48

The reason why we feel this is urgent is because a piece of this item directs the city manager to remove signage bearing Cesar Chavez's name immediately, which is important to me and others in the community that I have heard from.

40:02

I also understand there's a desire, particularly among members of the commemorative committee who were involved in the 1994 renaming of the park, who wrote a letter to the council today to engage in a process for arriving at a new name.

40:18

I had an opportunity to speak to one of the members of this committee, former school board director Beatrice Leva Cutler today.

40:25

So I do have some amendments that I would like to propose to this item to ensure that a community discussion can take place and that this item doesn't dictate a particular name.

40:35

So I respectfully ask for your vote to accept this item, and I would suggest it be placed on action just so that we can spend a few minutes on the proposed amendments because I I would want to share screen so everyone could see that.

40:47

Thank you very much.

40:52

Okay, so yeah, I think it would be helpful to see some of the changes because I know you you mentioned that you've gotten some feedback.

40:59

Um and I also do just want to comment that council member or vice mayor Luna Para and Councilmembers Humbert and O'Keefe and I also submitted an item to refer to the city manager and parks and recreation commission, a community process to rename the park sites and the holiday.

41:14

Um there are a few different places that were mentioned in our item, which will come to council on April 14th.

41:19

And I'd also like to refer to the city manager outside of any of this, um, to change the uh the holiday on the website to align with the state name, uh, which is now farm workers' day, at least for this year.

41:33

And also, I'd like to refer to the city manager the covering or removal of any signage related to Cesar Chavez.

41:39

So um I believe that we need a majority to two-thirds two-thirds to put this onto our agenda onto an action item.

41:52

So I think it's probably easiest just to take the roll.

41:56

We need a motion and a second.

41:59

I'll make a motion to um your mic is oh, excuse me.

42:03

Uh just make a motion to um to add the item to add the item to the action calendar.

42:08

Yes, second.

42:10

Okay.

42:11

Seconded by Councilmember Bartlett, calling a role to add the item to the action calendar for tonight's agenda.

42:17

Councilmember Kessar Wani.

42:19

Yes.

42:19

Taplin.

42:20

Yes.

42:20

Bartlett, yes, Drake.

42:22

Aye.

42:23

Okay.

42:24

Yes.

42:24

Black Abuse.

42:25

Yes.

42:25

Unapara.

42:26

Yes.

42:27

Humbert, yes, and Mayor Ishii.

42:29

Yes.

42:30

Okay, the items added to the agenda for consideration.

42:34

Okay.

42:35

Very good.

42:35

Thank you.

42:36

Um, all right.

42:38

Is there any other uh are there any comments from my council colleagues on the consent calendar or information items?

42:47

Starting with Councilmember Traegu.

42:51

Uh thank you so much, Madam Mayor.

42:53

Uh I would like to first of all uh thank um the health housing and community service uh director, Scott Gilman and staff for item five as the representative from the council to the mentor health commission.

43:13

Uh I support this important adjustment to ensure that um this commission continues to comply uh with new state law and also helps um increase the uh efficiency and effectiveness uh of this very important body with an important charge.

43:38

I also um support item 15 reappointing Dr.

43:44

Edward Upton to the Mentor Health Commission for a second term.

43:49

He has been a wonderful colleague.

43:51

Um look forward to continuing our work together.

43:55

I appreciate uh the Peace and Justice Commission's leadership and work on items 16 and 17.

44:03

Uh on item 19.

44:05

I would like to um thank uh council member taplan for co-leading this very important event of Holocaust Remembrance Day.

44:17

Um we frequently request something from our fellow elected and appointed officials, but we don't always remember to thank them when they do the right thing.

44:28

Item 21 is a way of thanking the MTC for their full adoption and implementation of a strong and enforceable transit-oriented community policies with strong tenant protections.

44:40

I would like to thank my co-sponsors for being on that item.

44:45

Um I am very happy to offer item 20 along with council member taplan uh and with support of council member Humbert.

45:00

This is an item that would uh refer to the city manager.

45:03

Um regulations uh controlling and restricting the use of glue traps.

45:10

Um I would like to read into the record, and I checked in with the city attorney and the um the clerk on this.

45:19

Uh it's just it's a very narrow amendment um based on some feedback we received.

45:27

So it would uh add the language, explore a narrow exemption for options of use for in for temperate past control and scientific research and potential implications thereof, and that would be the only change.

45:45

Um I really love that amidst all the tough news and grief that our community is experiencing, we also find time and space for joy.

45:57

And that is why I'm proud to co-sponsor item 23, Make Music Day, and I'm looking forward to partaking in this beautiful event.

46:06

Um thank you uh to the author for that item.

46:10

Um thank you also, Councilmember Keefe, for sponsoring item 22, the Barclay High School National Society of Black Engineers, Junior Chapter, as uh a um recovering engineer myself.

46:25

I recognize the importance of this item and would like to contribute 150 dollars for my D13 account.

46:31

And last but not least, I would like to also contribute 150 dollars to item 24, Barkley Public Schools Fund Spring Luncheon, and thank Mayor Ishi and Councilmember Blackaby for their authorship of it.

46:45

Thank you.

46:47

Thank you very much, Councilmember Councilmember Blackabee.

46:51

Thank you, Madam Mayor.

46:52

Um I'll be brief.

46:53

Uh just wanted to thank you, Mayor, and also Councilmember Casarwani for your work on the um very uh quick action to rename uh Cesar Chavez Park.

47:02

I know we're considering one tonight, we'll be considering one in the future.

47:05

Um it's really important that we do this process and respond as quickly as possible and engage um our community in the process of what we want um to name um that facility going forward.

47:15

So I appreciate your um leadership on this and proud to co-sponsor that.

47:19

Um on item 18.

47:21

I know we talked about already, but thank the city auditor for her whistleblower report on the ambulance purchase.

47:25

Thank you for sharing that with us.

47:27

Um item 19.

47:29

Um, thanks to Councilmember Taplin and Councilmember Trago for authoring the um Holocaust Remembrance Day program item, uh allowing me to co-sponsor, I'd like to contribute 500 from my office account towards that event.

47:41

Um item 22, um, which is the Berkeley High School National Society of Black Engineers, Jupiter uh junior chapter.

47:49

Uh again, thanks to Councilmember O'Keefe for her work on that.

47:51

We'd like to contribute 250 dollars from our office account towards that event.

47:56

Um item 23.

47:57

Uh, I think many of us were at a really wonderful event earlier today where we celebrated um music in Brooklyn Public Schools.

48:03

I would like to take any opportunity that we can do to bring music to the community.

48:08

So, item 23 on Make Music Day.

48:11

Again, we'd like to contribute 250 dollars from our office towards that effort.

48:15

And finally, on item 24.

48:18

Um, uh, I was pleased to be able to bring that forward with the mayor, the Berkeley Public Schools Fund Luncheon.

48:25

I also wanted to add uh Councilmember O'Keefe as a co-sponsor to that item um and look forward to that event as well.

48:32

That's it.

48:32

Thank you.

48:33

Thank you very much.

48:34

Councilmember Bartlett.

48:36

Thank you, Madam Mayor.

48:37

Uh, and also thank you, Councilman Kesselani, for your fast action representing your district with your park and controversy there.

48:44

Good work, thank you.

48:46

I'm 13, I'm really happy about this.

48:48

To the city manager here.

48:49

Shout out to you, Paul.

48:50

Um, my constituents need this badly.

48:52

Uh you're funding some people to fix the pavement.

48:56

Thank you.

48:58

It's a constant, constant refrain.

49:00

Um 19.

49:02

Um Councilmember Trago, want to thank you for doing this.

49:04

I want to give you 200 and um uh for this event.

49:08

It's a wonderful event.

49:09

Holocaust remembrance event.

49:11

Uh we have item 22.

49:13

This is uh a wonderful group.

49:15

The the black engineers, the National Society of Black Engineers Junior Chapter at BOST.

49:20

I'm happy to contribute 200.

49:22

I was never good at math, but um I've become good at it.

49:26

Uh item 23, again, Councilmember O'Keefe.

49:29

Thank you for this.

49:30

Make music day.

49:31

Uh, you know, art is so important to you and to all of us, and happy contribute to your dollars that as well.

49:36

And then lastly but not least, um, the spring luncheon.

49:40

Uh I'd like to give 200 to the BUST, spring luncheon, and thank you, Councilmember Blackaby for your work on bringing this forward.

49:48

Thank you.

49:49

Councilmember O'Keefe.

49:51

Thank you, Mayor.

49:53

Um, okay.

49:54

Six things.

49:54

I'll go in numerical order.

49:56

Um, item 19, Holocaust Remembrance Day.

50:01

Um, thank you very much for bringing that.

50:04

Um item 20.

50:06

I just wanted to say thank you to Councilmember Trago.

50:08

I think that's an important issue, and um just really appreciate you.

50:11

Is there a co-sponsor spot spot or not?

50:14

I believe there is.

50:15

Can I have it?

50:16

Okay, great.

50:17

Um, so thank uh can I co-sponsor it?

50:20

You didn't say yes, actually.

50:22

Funny if we don't trap you into sponsoring yes happy to I did it voluntarily, excuse me.

50:29

Item 22, my item.

50:31

Thank you so much to those who contributed.

50:33

Um I really um it's very personal to me.

50:36

That I teach computer science at Berkeley High School.

50:39

Uh, the class I teach is an entry-level class that's really um mission oriented to bringing in more racial and gender diversity into programming.

50:49

So it's really uh an issue that's really close to my heart.

50:52

And Mr.

50:52

Bin Loss, who is a counselor at Berkeley High, uh, one of my favorite colleagues, he and I work closely together.

50:58

But you know, I I recruit from Nesby, he recruits for Nesby from my class, and we just we work together every year.

51:05

We both um are really supportive of the mission, and he's just he's an absolute gem.

51:10

And I I really um want to take another moment uh because he was going to be here with uh some of the students and they're not here tonight.

51:17

It's because they just went to their conference uh or the National Nesby conference in Baltimore, and I heard they had a great time, but they were supposed to come back on Sunday, and I don't know what happened, but something something upsetting happened, and they had a lot of trouble getting back, and they got back last night at 1 30 in the morning, I think.

51:36

So they asked to come to another meeting and express their their thanks.

51:40

But um, I think he asked me to express a thank you to all of you on his behalf.

51:46

So anyway, Nesby is great, Mr.

51:47

Binlos is great, and and thank you so much.

51:50

Um try to go faster.

51:54

The other item uh that was mine, uh Make Music Day.

51:57

I just want to say it sounds like well, we will have some um commentary on it during the consent calendar comments, but just so everyone knows, it's an event I'm really excited about.

52:06

It's actually a worldwide event, different cities participated, originated in Paris, and it's gonna always be on the summer solstice.

52:12

And the idea is that there's free music everywhere in the city.

52:16

And so if you are a musician, even if you're not a good one, it doesn't matter.

52:21

Uh, amateur professional anything, uh go to the city website.

52:25

There's a website um that the Downtown Berkeley Association will publicize uh where you can look for a venue that will be open that can be open.

52:33

It's like a matching website basically.

52:35

So if you have a venue, which could even be just the sidewalk in front of your store or a park or anything like that, um, you can list your venues, and then if you are a musician, you can sign up to perform at that venue.

52:46

And so the idea is on the summer solstice, Berkeley will be filled with music, and it's all free.

52:52

And it's just a really wonderful event.

52:53

They have a huge one in New York City, and we're bringing it to Berkeley, and I'm really, really excited.

52:58

So thank you, everyone who contributed.

53:01

And um I'm almost done.

53:03

Uh, and item 24, spring luncheon.

53:05

Thank you for adding me as a co-sponsor.

53:06

Does that mean that I gave it money, or do I have to say that I'm giving it money?

53:10

I am giving it 250 dollars in addition to co-sponsoring it.

53:14

And that's all.

53:14

Thank you so much.

53:16

Thank you, Councilmember.

53:17

Councilmember Humbert.

53:19

Thank you, Madam Mayor.

53:20

Yeah, as to number 19, the Holocaust Remembrance Day program.

53:24

I'd like to contribute $500 from the D8 um discretionary account.

53:30

Um item number 22, the um uh National Society of Black Engineers.

53:39

Um donate 250 dollars.

53:42

Um 23 make music day, want to donate 250.

53:47

And the spring luncheon, another 250.

53:51

Thank you.

53:53

Thank you.

53:54

Vice Mayor Bunapara.

53:56

Thank you.

53:56

Um, I would like to donate 250 dollars to um item 19 and 150 dollars to items 22, 23, and 24.

54:05

Thanks all to all the authors of those items.

54:08

Um I also would like to pull item seven, a 2845 Woolsey Street Mills Act contract from the consent calendar, move it to action because the landmark preservation commission didn't have a definitive, they didn't vote on this at all.

54:23

They they got stuck.

54:26

Um so I would like to have more discussion about that item.

54:29

I'm happy to join you in polling that item.

54:32

Me too.

54:33

Thank you.

54:35

Okay.

54:36

Okay.

54:37

Thank you very much.

54:38

Um moving on to Councilmember Taplin.

54:41

Thank you.

54:41

On items 22, 23, and 24.

54:44

I would put I want to thank Councilmember Zokee for Blackaby and Relinquist 250 to each item respectively.

54:51

Thank you.

54:53

Okay, thank you very much.

54:55

All right, so um I just have a few comments myself.

55:00

I really want to again appreciate all of the grants that our staff pursue to deliver quality services to the community.

55:04

Item number four is to conduct public health promotion, protection and prevention services for our school-based health services, totaling 465,258 dollars for FY27.

55:15

I've been really trying to highlight for folks all of the grants that our city staff are applying for.

55:20

So you know that not only do we have tax money, but also we're trying to leverage those funds to be able to reach uh more people and provide more services.

55:28

So thank you very much to staff.

55:30

For item 15, I'd like to give a special thanks to Edward Opton for his commitment to continue to serve on the Mental Health Commission.

55:36

Um, for our commissioners, this is you know mostly an unpaid labor of love, so I really want to thank you all.

55:42

Um lastly, I'd like to thank the council members for their contributions to the 2026 Holocaust Remembrance Day, the Berkeley High National Society of Black Engineers, Junior Chapter, Make Music Day, and the Berkeley Public Schools Fund.

55:53

It's really a joy to see all of these uh you know community events that we're supporting.

55:58

Thank you all.

55:59

Okay, so I will now take public comment on consent calendar or information items only.

56:06

So come on up.

56:07

Oh, I'm sorry.

56:09

Oh, Councilmember, as you're coming up, Councilmember Caserwani is going to give some comments as well.

56:13

Okay, thank you very much, Madam Mayor.

56:15

I I pushed my um parliamentarian button late, so I I didn't want to uh miss out on making my donations.

56:21

First, I just want to clarify for item 16.

56:24

We've made that clear that that will be referred to the budget process.

56:28

Okay, folks.

56:28

And so I'd like to be recorded as donating 250 dollars for Holocaust Remembrance Day, um, as well as a hundred dollars for the National Society of Black Engineers Junior Chapter, 100 for Make Music Day, and 100 for the Berkeley Public Schools Fund luncheon.

56:46

Thank you very much.

56:47

Thank you.

56:48

Okay, come on up.

56:49

This is for public comment for consent and information items only.

56:52

Folks, please, we want to make sure we're hearing all of our public comment.

56:55

If you're having a conversation, especially here in the front row, Alana.

57:00

If you could please just take your conversations outside, I would really appreciate it because I want to be able to hear everyone's comments.

57:06

I'm sorry, go ahead.

57:07

Thank you.

57:08

I want to I want to appreciate Edward Abden for continuing to serve on the Mental Health Commission.

57:12

That is a very thankless job because there's not enough support for that commission.

57:17

We need y'all to get involved in the state of mental health in Berkeley.

57:22

You want to reduce the police budget.

57:24

Well, guess what?

57:25

If we can deal compassionately with people with mental health disabilities and going through mental health crisis, you'll save a ton of money, and we won't have overpriced cops responding to mental health emergencies.

57:40

And of course, the mayor knows my passion for uh wheelchair accessible vehicles because the special care unit spent over a year outfitting in great detail two vehicles at a huge expense.

57:56

Nobody in the city can somebody please tell me where they are.

57:59

Where's the whistleblower?

58:01

Where are those?

58:03

They are vital for our city.

58:05

Can you tell me, Mr.

58:07

City Manager?

58:08

Thank you.

58:09

Thank you.

58:14

Hi, I want to speak to uh item number 17, and this is from the Peace and Justice Commission.

58:20

Uh, and this reaffirms the city of Berkeley's commitment to free speech and assembly in opposition to the detainment and deportation of immigrants without due process.

58:28

And it goes on and on in the text of this uh of this item about what this time is and what it means.

58:33

Sorry, are you talking about something on consent calendar?

58:36

Yeah, it's item item 17.

58:38

The peace and justice uh commission.

58:40

So, you know, it's uh it talks about our commitment for to free speech and how we have to reaffirm that commitment right now because of things that are happening right now.

58:49

And what I would like to know is has this commission commented on any other very pertinent items on tonight's calendar, like one that would completely upend what is in this text, what what what would be doing what we'd be doing here because we have an item later on that is terrible for free speech, would would uphold deportation, and I don't see their comments on this item, but I see supplementals from six of you that do the opposite.

59:17

Okay, thank you.

59:24

Hi, my name is Matthew in District Three.

59:26

Uh, I just wanted to say I'm really glad for Berkeley City Council for item number 20.

59:30

Sorry, for item number 20 to consider a ban on glue traps.

59:33

Uh hopefully will become legislation before too long.

59:37

Especially thank you for council members Tregov, Taplin, and Humbert for introducing it, and O'Keefe joining as well.

59:44

Uh Berkeley has historically led the way on a lot of uh issues, and I hope can lead on care for animals and glue traps as an important part of continuing that legacy.

59:55

Thank you all very much.

59:56

Thank you.

1:00:05

Good evening, uh Madameir and the city council members.

1:00:08

My name is Mediwala Anderson, and I am here to support item number 20, the glue trap ban.

1:00:15

For anyone who isn't familiar with glue traps, they are a cruel and sadistic method of catching and killing animals by subjecting them to a slow and excruciating death.

1:00:26

After getting stuck to the glue, songbirds, squittles, lizards, mice, and other small animals often suffer for more than 24 hours before dying from blood loss, dehydration, or starvation.

1:00:38

Some trapped animals even chew off their own limbs in a desperate attempt to escape, and others suffocate to death after their nostrils and mouths become glue shut.

1:00:48

New traps have already been banned in several other cities in California.

1:00:52

It's time to ban in Berkeley.

1:00:54

Thank you for considering the ban.

1:00:56

Thank you.

1:00:57

Thank you.

1:00:59

Come on up.

1:01:01

Folks, I know a lot of people are standing.

1:01:03

I'm not sure if you're here for comment, but um go ahead and find a seat.

1:01:06

There are some more seats around.

1:01:08

And folks, please make room for everyone so that people can sit down.

1:01:12

Good evening, Council.

1:01:13

My name is Jacob Shaw.

1:01:14

I live here in Berkeley, uh walking distance from here, which is very nice, coming from Southern California where I previously lived and had to drive everywhere and hate it.

1:01:22

Um I live in Berkeley and also work for people for the ethical treatment of animals.

1:01:27

And one of the things I do there is research wildlife control products like glue traps.

1:01:32

And as the previous speaker mentioned, these traps are already banned in England, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, New Zealand, Scotland, and Wales.

1:01:40

They've been banned in three cities in California, which is what I'm used to saying, but it's actually four after today, because the city of Ventura just uh adopted their second reading of an ordinance today.

1:01:50

Um, this is just a very simple, easy thing that the council can do to reduce some of the suffering that happens in the world.

1:01:58

There's so much of it, and a lot of it feels like it's out of our control, but this is just one small thing we can do to make the world a slightly kinder, more compassionate place for the animals who we get to share this at times awesome world with.

1:02:13

Thank you.

1:02:14

Thank you.

1:02:21

I'm gonna take a minute from my husband.

1:02:25

So I have two minutes, so um, so item number 14.

1:02:30

This is like millions and millions of dollars.

1:02:32

I couldn't count, I didn't have a calculator, but I I got to like 20 million, and and this is on consent for consultants when you're facing a deficit.

1:02:44

Like what the heck is everybody else doing that's supposed to be working for the city of Berkeley when you have this much in consultants?

1:02:51

That's kind of ridiculous.

1:02:53

And um, as stated previously, today is 899 days of the genocide.

1:03:01

And I hope you remember the genocide Holocaust that is occurring currently.

1:03:08

We haven't left it.

1:03:09

There has been no pause in a ceasefire.

1:03:13

The bombing continues, the drones continue, the the uh air strikes continue.

1:03:22

Um they they stated that since the so-called ceasefire, over 677 Palestinians have been killed.

1:03:31

1,800 plus injured.

1:03:34

There was a sandstorm last week, and so many people who are already in a catastrophic situation, no water, no food, starving, were affected by the sandstorms.

1:03:50

The air was orange in front of them.

1:03:53

They that's what you saw if you looked outside.

1:03:56

So have some compassion.

1:03:58

You talked about having compassion in your Holocaust remembrance, but it doesn't seem like, you know, that was kind of a hypocritical things to say because you were saying all these words, but you don't apply it to Gaza.

1:04:11

So, you know, you're just being really pathetic and sad.

1:04:17

And you know, oh millions of dollars shouldn't be on the consent calendar.

1:04:23

Free Palestine, free Palestine, free yourselves from Zionism and APAC.

1:04:29

Thank you.

1:04:30

Thank you.

1:04:35

Uh speaking on behalf of item uh 16, Grace Marazara and I have been authorized by the Peace and Justice Commission to speak on behalf of this issue.

1:04:45

Uh the last time the Alien Anemies Act was invoked was during World War II, where Japanese Italians and German persons were placed in internment camps.

1:04:57

And this educational event is important.

1:05:00

We have reached out to the mayor's office, so that perhaps where they're becoming lost in the budget process, and item could come before council where there uh would be contributions from council members uh accounts as we develop this through community organization.

1:05:17

Uh I want to reference the glue traps item before uh Gray speaks, which is just is this going to be another feel-good item that isn't enforced, uh, such as the elevator ordinance, the no-smoking ordinance near businesses and the uh source of income ordinance, the true.

1:05:37

Thanks, Carol.

1:05:40

Thanks girl.

1:05:42

Uh good evening, everybody.

1:05:44

I want to first thank you all for putting this on the consent calendar.

1:05:48

I have to always speak per free if it's an item that um speaks to about the Japanese American experience in my own family.

1:05:56

I had a relative arrested on December 7th, disappeared for weeks, almost a month until we found him.

1:06:04

I mean, I wasn't then, but my family found him and subsequently died without seeing his children afterwards.

1:06:12

So just to tell you that actually I want to be very practical.

1:06:18

I want to say that for the Peace and Justice Commission, we had a panel, and it was a panel of experts talk about the Alien Enemies Act.

1:06:26

So I hope when you consider this, you will consider having a panel because I think the interaction and discussion and the learning deeply about how that affected us then and how it is.

1:06:40

It's really uh legitimizes.

1:06:47

Bye.

1:06:47

Thank you.

1:06:48

Okay.

1:06:54

Okay, my name is uh Jeanette McNeil, and I'm authorized to speak on behalf of the Peace and Justice Commission on item 17, the free speech and um right to protest.

1:07:04

We wrote this recommendation about a year ago, and I will just say now more than ever, we must protect our rights to speech and to protest.

1:07:13

And yes, peace and justice is strongly speaking out on Flock as well as the rollback of police accountability and tactics, and we passed resolutions on all three of these issues last week.

1:07:27

Thank you.

1:07:28

Thank you.

1:07:37

Good evening again, Madame Mayor and the council members.

1:07:40

Um, since you're making the I'm all for item one, you're making the news only density ruse, but I want to ask what's the point if you're actively enabling existing density fraud.

1:07:53

And I report this multiple times, and you the city just draw me with a procedure suppression without any response.

1:08:02

Thank you.

1:08:05

Thank you.

1:08:06

Is are are you all in line to speak?

1:08:08

There are a lot of folks standing in line.

1:08:13

Sorry, there's a there's a sign actually that says no standing alongside this wall, and partially it's because it's hard for me to keep track of who's actually speaking or not.

1:08:20

There are there are seats up here.

1:08:22

I know there's some seats sprinkled throughout.

1:08:25

If you've got a seat next to you, can you raise your hand?

1:08:28

Thank you.

1:08:29

Andrea, is that a seat next to you too?

1:08:32

I don't know, I've just got a bad.

1:08:34

Okay.

1:08:34

I just want to let folks say I think there are seats spread throughout.

1:08:38

Thank you for those of you who are raising your hands.

1:08:40

Okay, go ahead.

1:08:41

Hi there.

1:08:42

I just wanted to appreciate the city auditors report.

1:08:45

And on that topic of auditing, I'm wondering who audits the police reports.

1:08:54

Because the I have data here, and it was contested, but this was data that was taken from the transparency hub that our police department alone is that data.

1:09:04

This is about this is about the auditor's report isn't on our consent calendar.

1:09:08

You said about information items.

1:09:11

So go ahead.

1:09:12

So racial profiling continues in Berkeley.

1:09:15

I like, you know, 10 seconds back or something.

1:09:18

Please let her finish.

1:09:19

Thank you.

1:09:21

Give her the time to speak.

1:09:22

You need to stop talking so that she can speak.

1:09:25

Okay.

1:09:26

All right.

1:09:26

You've got another minute.

1:09:27

Okay.

1:09:28

There you go.

1:09:28

Give me two minutes.

1:09:29

A minute plus 10 additional 10 seconds.

1:09:32

I got three minutes.

1:09:33

Another minute.

1:09:34

It's important.

1:09:35

There you go.

1:09:35

Because this data was done by a man named Tarek Shaw, who will be here later, who is with the um human rights data analysis group, a serious data analyst who has a program that runs and takes the data from the transparency hub.

1:09:52

I know y'all don't want to hear this, Cassarwani and others, but the reality is that racial profiling is alive and well in Berkeley in 2025.

1:10:01

In fact, not only is racial profiling live and well, if you are a black person, you are six times more likely than a white person to get stopped while driving.

1:10:11

You are nine times more likely to be stopped on foot if you're black.

1:10:16

You and some of these folks on the diets were here in February 2020 when you all directed our police department to eliminate low-level offenses.

1:10:28

You said do not do this anymore, people.

1:10:31

Some of y'all were on the council then.

1:10:33

Well, guess what?

1:10:34

They're still doing it.

1:10:36

Okay, they continue to make low-level stops.

1:10:39

That who do you think they target?

1:10:41

Y'all know black people.

1:10:43

Okay, because we know in 2025 there were 489 equipment violations.

1:10:50

489, that's more than one per day.

1:10:53

45 seat belt violations, and how did this affect black people?

1:10:57

Black people were stopped for equipment violations 11 times more than expected from their representation in the population.

1:11:04

Black people were pulled over for seatbelts violation 10 times more than expected from their representation in the population.

1:11:12

In short, the BPD stop data demonstrates very strong statistically significant evidence of racial profiling.

1:11:21

And so whatever they say about the veil of darkness in the BPD report.

1:11:26

Who's auditing their numbers?

1:11:29

Is the police accountability board?

1:11:31

Does the police accountability board are they even checking it?

1:11:35

Is anyone besides Arlo telling you what this data is?

1:11:39

So I really want to encourage you.

1:11:41

We need the auditor to audit that because if these numbers are real and we've got to stop.

1:11:46

Let's focus on stopping racial profiling.

1:11:48

We don't need to expand surveillance here.

1:11:51

We need to stop racial profiling.

1:11:58

Are there any more comments online for the consent calendar or information items only?

1:12:05

Okay.

1:12:06

So this is Do you have a comment for consent calendar or information items only?

1:12:10

Are we counting item 27?

1:12:11

That's information item.

1:12:13

If it's on the information calendar.

1:12:15

Yes, I just have to scroll down to where 27 is.

1:12:19

The assembly, yes.

1:12:20

Go ahead.

1:12:22

Thank you.

1:12:23

Um my name's Anthony Myzel.

1:12:25

I'll be brief.

1:12:25

I'll be talking about flock shortly here.

1:12:27

Um, I just want to talk about the settlement.

1:12:29

Um, this is the case where I sued the city of Berkeley for violating the Brown Act.

1:12:33

And we won.

1:12:34

We won the case because sadly, this city, and I want to acknowledge it was a different mayor at the time.

1:12:40

Um sometimes it breaks the law.

1:12:43

Sometimes the folks we contract with break the law.

1:12:46

And sometimes we have to reflect on the fact that the public are the bosses of the people in this city.

1:13:00

Their voice is the voice we are responsible to.

1:13:03

Not our personal aspirations, not this and that, not our misguided reading of law.

1:13:12

But the people.

1:13:14

And I think they're gonna remind you of that throughout public comment tonight.

1:13:18

But again, I want to thank our attorney, Jonathan Wisem.

1:13:21

I want to thank those.

1:13:22

Um I want to thank all the people who are part of the lawsuit.

1:13:26

Thank you.

1:13:27

I'm glad we won.

1:13:28

Thank you.

1:13:37

So now it's time if you're on the Zoom.

1:13:40

This is public comment on consent calendar items and information items.

1:13:45

So if you're on the Zoom, you want to talk to an item that is on the consent calendar.

1:13:50

Uh go ahead and raise your hand.

1:13:51

We currently have uh 10 hands raised.

1:13:55

The first speaker is Mar.

1:14:01

Regarding item 16 about the Aliens and Enemies Act and item 17 about free speech.

1:14:09

And we'll get into this later, of course, with the flock discussion.

1:14:13

I am just once again pointing out the hypocrisy of the Berkeley City Council to talk about one thing and then act in a totally oppositional way when it comes to our own city.

1:14:27

We want to talk about the history and how we feel about defending people's right to speak, but then you don't actually listen to what we're saying when we speak.

1:14:40

That's yeah, I'll talk more later.

1:14:44

Thank you.

1:14:45

Next is Seth Newman.

1:14:50

Hi there.

1:14:51

Um I'm Seth.

1:14:53

I'm here to express my support and gratitude for Councilmember Blackaby for initiating consent item 24 on behalf of the Berkeley Public Schools Fund.

1:15:03

Additional thanks to the mayor and the entire council for jumping in with their support.

1:15:07

I'll be brief.

1:15:08

The Berkeley Public Schools Fund is the singular nonprofit that champions equitable public education for all 19 schools across Berkeley, from preschool to adult school.

1:15:18

This spring we're bringing back the spring luncheon, which is a beloved Berkeley tradition that unites public education advocates from all across the city, including elected officials, educators, families, local businesses, and volunteers.

1:15:30

The event also raises vital funds to support Berkeley schools and Berkeley students and celebrates educators and community members who help ensure that Berkeley public schools work well for all of our students.

1:15:42

The spring luncheon is going to be on Friday, May 8th at CL Creative Space in West Berkeley, and information about ticket sales and sponsorships can be found on our website.

1:15:50

We really appreciate the city's support of our public schools, and we hope to see you all there.

1:15:55

Thanks so much.

1:15:56

Next is Alison.

1:16:02

Hi, yes, thank you.

1:16:03

Good evening, and thank you for this opportunity.

1:16:06

I'm commenting on item number 20, banting banning the sale and use of glue traps.

1:16:10

Uh, my name is Alison Hermanns.

1:16:12

I have worked in wildlife rehabilitation and wildlife advocacy for the past 23 years.

1:16:17

And in the wildlife hospital, without a doubt, the most heartbreaking cases we see are those involving glue traps.

1:16:23

As has already been stated, a glue trap doesn't immediately kill the animal.

1:16:28

Instead, the trapped animal must die slowly of dehydration, stress, starvation, and exposure.

1:16:35

Many of the animals brought to wildlife hospitals are actually the intended targets, rats and mice.

1:16:40

Most people, after they see the extreme stress and suffering, a glue trapped animal undergoes are horrified, and they rush the animal to a wildlife hospital.

1:16:49

But glue traps are indiscriminate killers, capturing small animals of all kinds, including lizards, snakes, baby opossums, other baby animals, and a shocking number of songbirds.

1:16:59

No animal should ever have to suffer the way a glue trapped animal does.

1:17:03

I urge you to strongly vote in support.

1:17:05

Thanks.

1:17:06

Thanks so much.

1:17:06

Next is Aaron Dean.

1:17:10

Good evening, Council.

1:17:12

Thank you for taking my comment.

1:17:13

I'm speaking on item 20 in support, the referral to ban glue traps.

1:17:18

Thank you to Council members Tregu and Taplin and the co-authors, Humbert and O'Keefe, and to the 146 organizations who signed on to this very important matter.

1:17:28

And to all the people behind the scenes who worked on it.

1:17:31

As you've heard already, glue traps are just absolutely humane, suffering all kinds of wildlife or impacted, lizards and songbirds.

1:17:41

And on that end, I want to just say thank you for the reference in the item about the significant declines in birds and songbirds, that we've lost one-third of all birds as three billion birds since the 70s, and especially this quote that we are preserving biodiversity, including the city's wildlife.

1:17:58

Thank you for acknowledging the value of wildlife in our cities.

1:18:02

Personally, I've seen the photographs from these rehabilitation wildlife rehabilitation centers, and it is absolutely heartbreaking.

1:18:09

So please um I thank you for this item.

1:18:12

And one request I have.

1:18:14

Sorry, your time's up, but thank you.

1:18:16

Feel free to write us if you have more comments.

1:18:18

Next is a caller with a phone number ending in 211.

1:18:27

Hi, again.

1:18:29

Um Holocaust.

1:18:36

Men, women, and children were murdered by Hitler.

1:18:40

And the biggest genocide in history, actually, most people don't know what happened.

1:18:44

It happened in the 13th century by the army of Kingston.

1:18:49

He murdered 60 million people across the planet.

1:18:53

60 million.

1:18:54

Maybe more.

1:18:56

Eventually.

1:19:12

Lots of many thanks for us to Egypt.

1:19:16

The last thing that is a bit criminal.

1:19:19

He was about to go to prison.

1:19:21

For and he used Davis Chin filed.

1:19:27

Trump to do the genocide heading now and comment.

1:19:33

Next is Kelly Hammergren.

1:19:40

Okay, I'll talk fast.

1:19:42

So on 13, I'm um glad that was withdrawn, but I hope that uh since this is FF funds that safe streets will meet and actually be able to see the projects before they go forward.

1:19:57

Um 1434 contracts really is too much too many to be on consent.

1:20:00

Um 1434 contracts really is too much too many to be on consent on number 16 from the peace and justice on the alien enemies act.

1:20:08

I hope this doesn't mean that it's going to get dumped in the budget committee.

1:20:12

I hope that we actually go through with that on item 20.

1:20:16

This is really just uh um needs to be a high priority item, so I hope that this doesn't get pushed to the bottom of things to do, and that we get it uh implemented as soon as possible and considering what's on our the rest of the agenda for tonight.

1:20:38

I'm hoping that all of you will reaffirm thanks Kelly.

1:20:43

Thanks for your comments.

1:20:46

Next is a caller with a number ending in 405 press star six to unmute caller phone number ending in four zero five.

1:21:18

Um okay, well to the next um we have uh Della Luna Yes.

1:21:34

Uh first I would like to say about item 20 with the glue traps.

1:21:40

I wish this this item came with recommendations for what people should be using.

1:21:45

I don't think it addresses why people buy glue traps, it's because they want something that uh can work, and that is so I just feel like without providing an alternative, it's just kind of an empty item, and I would have liked it to be um also like I know vector control exists, but I don't really see a lot of activity uh with the rodents in the city outside of the lepto outbreak.

1:22:07

So I just wish there was more proactive times instead of just banning uh glue traps, and then I wanted to speak also about the auditors report.

1:22:15

I'm super grateful that this work is happening, and we need to see more of this from the auditor and more robustness.

1:22:21

But this is evidence that what's happening in the city and what's happening at the city council doesn't always jive.

1:22:27

And if you're not going through and double checking and doing due diligence, then there's often instances where negligence can come about where things are happening where you all are not aware.

1:22:37

So thank you.

1:22:39

Uh last speaker is M Jervis Downtown Berkeley.

1:22:50

Can you hear me?

1:22:52

Yes.

1:22:53

Hi, uh yeah, Matthew Jervis from the Downtown Berkeley Association.

1:22:56

I'm calling in to speak on item 23, Make Music Day.

1:23:02

Make music day Berkeley.

1:23:03

Very excited to have this uh in our city.

1:23:06

And I wanted to, and I also appreciate the council's support on this, and thank you, everyone who's been able to uh donate some money to this super fun event, making Berkeley a stage for the afternoon of June 21st.

1:23:19

Anyone who would like to host or uh music uh performance or be a performer, sign in on uh online make music.org backslash Berkeley.

1:23:31

Uh and if you have any questions, contact me at info at downtown Berkeley dot com.

1:23:38

And I'd also like to thank Visit Berkeley for their partnership in this.

1:23:43

We're gonna have a lot of fun.

1:23:44

Downtown Berkeley is administering the registration process uh online, and we're looking forward to seeing a bunch of folks out on the streets making music.

1:23:54

Thank you.

1:23:54

Thanks so much, and thanks for coming back to give your comments.

1:24:15

Give her an extra minute.

1:24:18

We can hear you and yes, you have an extra minute.

1:24:23

Thank you.

1:24:24

Um has to see the pay us.

1:24:50

The hypocrisy of our chemical weapons to use with safe streets.

1:25:13

It's two calendar and station doesn't that take account to stage who have fewer access to the current and the line.

1:25:41

Those who die is in five ten years.

1:25:50

And I'll hope.

1:25:56

Thank you.

1:25:58

Okay.

1:25:59

And then we have uh thanks, Makai.

1:26:02

Caller ending in 405 still has their hand raised.

1:26:06

I guess press uh caller ending in 405.

1:26:12

You should be able to unmute press star six on your phone.

1:26:25

No.

1:26:27

All right, that's it.

1:26:30

No more speakers online.

1:26:32

Okay, thank you very much.

1:26:34

Um is there um oh uh council member taplin?

1:26:38

Uh thank you.

1:26:39

Thanks, everyone.

1:26:40

Um on item 19, the Holocaust Remember State program.

1:26:43

I'd like to thank my co-author, Council Tregou, and my co-sponsors, Mary Ishii and Counselor Blackabee, as well as all my colleagues for their support.

1:26:50

As the mayor mentioned, this April marks the city's 23rd observance, and I encourage all to attend.

1:26:55

And with that, I move adoption of the consent calendar.

1:26:58

Second.

1:27:00

If there's no opposition to approving the consent calendar, then we will approve it.

1:27:07

Okay, consent calendar is approved.

1:27:09

Thank you very much.

1:27:10

Okay, so just to recap for folks, we've just finished the consent calendar.

1:27:15

We are now moving on to the action calendar.

1:27:17

We had a couple of things moved down to the con the action calendar.

1:27:22

One is uh council member Kesserwani's urgent item, the Cesar Chavez uh renaming item, and then also item number seven, which was on the consent calendar.

1:27:31

That's the Mills Act contract for 2845 Woolsey Street.

1:27:36

Um we have two other items which are adopting resolution authorizing the temporary employment of retired and new attendants, Kathy Lee is interim director of police accountability, and then item number 26, which is the public safety technology item.

1:27:49

So I just want to give you all an accounting of where we're at, and then um I'd really would really like to make it through these top three items before we take a break.

1:27:59

I know it's already 750, and it kind of depends on how much public comment we get on each of them.

1:28:04

So I'm just saying that out loud so you all know what to expect.

1:28:07

We have a number of items to cover still, so okay.

1:28:10

So uh what I'd like to do is start with the Cesar Chavez item.

1:28:13

Um, Councilmember Cassarwani, I know you've got some changes that you've made to it that you wanted to share with us, so I'm gonna start with there and and let you present.

1:28:23

Oh, sure.

1:28:25

Okay, would you like us to do the Mills Act contract item first?

1:28:28

Okay, let's do the Mills Act contract item first.

1:28:31

Uh that's the 2845 Wolsey Street, previously item number seven on the consent calendar.

1:28:36

Um since you pulled it, council member or vice mayor Luna Parra, would you like to speak to this item?

1:28:41

Yes, I think we should continue this item to the next regular meeting.

1:28:45

Um so I move to continue this item to the next regular meeting and marks.

1:28:54

Um let's just take the uh actually if there's no opposition, I'm just gonna have us continue that.

1:29:01

Do you have a question?

1:29:04

So just clear clarify the landmarks fail to act on it or okay.

1:29:11

The landmarks commission heard it.

1:29:13

Um they took a vote and the vote failed.

1:29:16

A vote to approve it, the vote failed, and it came to council.

1:29:19

Okay, I see.

1:29:20

So actually, also clarifying, so if we continue it, will they have time to review it again?

1:29:26

Or what what's your hope?

1:29:27

So I understand.

1:29:28

From my understanding, they chose not to move forward with it because a majority did not think that it was worthy of a mills act.

1:29:36

I I think we should just continue this discussion.

1:29:39

Shh is how we go ahead and uh put your mic on so we can hear you.

1:29:44

I'm just curious if they didn't or with how did it reach us?

1:29:48

Because they took no action.

1:29:50

It helps us like yeah, it just comes to us for us to decide.

1:29:53

I see, thank you.

1:29:55

Okay, so I'm fine with continuing it.

1:30:00

Um I'm gonna see if there's any opposition to continuing it until the next meeting.

1:30:03

Oh sorry, did were you saying something, Mr.

1:30:06

City Clark?

1:30:07

Yeah, and we'll take public comment on it.

1:30:09

Yeah, thank you.

1:30:10

Okay, I just want to get a sense of where everyone's at.

1:30:12

Okay, so um is there any public comment for item number seven, the Mills Act contract for 2845 Woolsey Street.

1:30:23

Um, who were the two people that took it off consent there besides Lunapora?

1:30:29

There was three.

1:30:33

We don't typically respond to public comments.

1:30:35

So go ahead and give your comment on it.

1:30:37

Well, that's what needs to happen.

1:30:39

Are you changing the rules?

1:30:40

Or did I mean it that's you should just be transparent because you mumble and nobody can hear there were three council members that removed that item onto action.

1:30:52

Um go ahead, come on up.

1:30:56

Uh hey there, I'm the owner.

1:30:58

Uh it was okay.

1:31:00

Just hold it out.

1:31:01

Oh, sorry.

1:31:01

Um, I'm the owner.

1:31:03

Um it wasn't exactly that's not exactly what happened at Landmarks.

1:31:06

Uh a bunch of people actually decided not to vote at all.

1:31:10

Um, and that's why it ended up here.

1:31:12

So there actually was quorum, and then a bunch of people said, Oh, I don't want to touch this.

1:31:16

So it got kicked up to you all.

1:31:18

So to the extent that there's a ability to have this conversation before you know all the stuff, there's some deadlines have to be hit.

1:31:26

That's great.

1:31:26

But just want to make sure that like that cadence is kept and that the kind of the full totality of understanding like how we got here, what happened, and the changes that have happened over the course of this.

1:31:38

Like the law effectively was X, but the change that happened was Y.

1:31:43

And I just want to make sure that like we can get through this.

1:31:48

I'm just you know, I'm trying to follow the steps, and it feels like the steps keep changing.

1:31:52

So if the steps keep changing, then like we should make some other amendments, but that's all.

1:31:58

Thank you.

1:31:58

Thank you very much for your public comment.

1:32:00

And and certainly, yeah, if if there's some confusion about what next steps are, we definitely can check back in and make sure that it's clear um and can update you on on when this would be heard next, because it would be heard at the next city council meeting.

1:32:14

Yeah.

1:32:15

April 14th.

1:32:16

April 14th.

1:32:17

Yes, because this is right before our our spring recess, unfortunately.

1:32:22

And but feel free if you have other comments or you want to talk more, feel free to reach out to my office.

1:32:26

Thank you.

1:32:28

Um is there any other public comment online for this item?

1:32:33

This is public comment only for item seven, MILSAC contract 2845 Woolsey Street.

1:32:40

Uh, there are two hands raised.

1:32:42

The first is Jeff Baker.

1:32:48

Uh hello.

1:32:48

Um, thank you very much for pulling this uh into the action items for more debate.

1:32:54

Um, I do think it makes good sense to continue this since there doesn't seem to be a lot of clarity on why this is on the council agenda.

1:33:03

I believe if you gathered up uh the six members of the commission who did not vote to approve this and ask them what they thought happened, they would say that they thought they killed the item.

1:33:19

Uh so it was very surprising to me when it appeared on the council agenda.

1:33:23

Uh certainly it is a stretch to say that if the commission doesn't make findings specifically to deny the contract, then it just arrives at council.

1:33:35

That really defies the meaning of consent and approval of the commission, which is what the local ordinance says.

1:33:43

Uh thank you.

1:33:45

Thank you.

1:33:46

Appreciate your comment.

1:33:49

Uh actually the other person lowered their hands, so that that's it for public.

1:33:55

Okay.

1:33:55

Very good.

1:33:56

Then we can move on to the Cesar Chavez item then, Madam Mayor.

1:33:59

Oh, I just have a question for no way.

1:34:02

Um I just have a question for staff.

1:34:04

Is there is there any trigger?

1:34:07

Like, is there an exploration or anything we need to worry about?

1:34:12

Um if we continue it to April 14th.

1:34:18

Hey, council members, this is Jordan Klein, Director of Planning and Development.

1:34:21

Sorry, I'm not in the room with you.

1:34:23

Uh for the contract to take effect during the 2027-28 fiscal year, we would need to um take action on it by the end of the calendar year.

1:34:36

So April should be fine.

1:34:39

Thank you.

1:34:41

Thank you very much.

1:34:42

Okay, so um there didn't appear to be any opposition, but just confirming there's no opposition to moving this to our next meeting.

1:34:50

Okay, we will move that to our next meeting then and move on to the Cesar Chavez item.

1:34:56

Council member.

1:35:20

Thank you, Madam Mayor, for the um change of the changing of the order so I could bring this on screen.

1:35:26

So we just to keep things simple, we've just modified the recommendation.

1:35:31

First, I want to acknowledge that I've added the co-sponsors, uh, Terry Taplin, Ben Bartlett, and Brent Blackaby.

1:35:37

And um with further discussion with community leaders, um, I uh wanted to strike the uh the renaming and and simply refer this to the Parks Recreation and Waterfront Commission.

1:35:53

Um according to the council rules of procedure appendix A, the um the Parks Commission is um granted this authority to rename parks.

1:36:05

So we do need to do this referral.

1:36:07

And um what we did was strike the the um certainty about naming it for Dolores Huerta and and simply saying that we want to initiate a community process which should incorporate feedback specifically from the commemorative committee that we heard from today.

1:36:26

This was the committee that initiated the first renaming process of the park in 1994, as well as input from other community members and stakeholders.

1:36:35

And what what I I did here is I just said that we recommend that Dolores Huerta be among the options considered for renaming.

1:36:43

And then in in conversation with the city manager, um we have added um removing or covering signage bearing the name Cesar Chavez from park property as soon as practicable, and just making it clear we want to leave intact signage related to directions and park rules.

1:37:02

So those are the changes.

1:37:06

So we will now take council questions, which I have a couple um if no one else has questions.

1:37:12

Okay, so I'm curious since we put forward an item that addresses more than just the park, it addresses anything bearing Cesar Chavez's name, um, including the site that's within the park.

1:37:25

Um I'm wondering then if that would move forward just without the park, essentially.

1:37:32

I'm not sure.

1:37:34

Um I I'm not aware of any other item.

1:37:36

This is the item before us tonight.

1:37:40

So I can only speak to this item.

1:37:42

So you're asking about some other I'm asking about an item that was submitted on Monday that addressed a process for changing everything with Cesar Chavez's name.

1:37:53

And so I'm curious if this would just essentially make the part about the park specifically moot.

1:38:00

It just we could remove that part.

1:38:02

I just want to understand how to move for it practically.

1:38:06

I'm not sure I would understand your question.

1:38:08

I mean, are you wanting to add something to this item to the effect that other Cesar Chavez names get removed for example on the website, or are you saying that might be simpler to do to include that in in here?

1:38:24

I guess I'm just trying to figure out practically how it looks.

1:38:27

So yeah, okay.

1:38:29

So I'll just ask to make a friendly amendment then to include the the items that we included within our uh item that we submitted on Monday, um, which I don't have that rule list in front of.

1:38:40

We should probably repeat, say state out what those are, yeah.

1:38:42

Yeah.

1:38:43

Yes.

1:38:44

Um and I think this is just um uh Madam Mayor Sofia, I I just I'm not aware of your item, you know, because I know we had different brown acts, and so I don't know um what it was requesting because I don't think that item's been made public as far as I know.

1:38:58

Okay.

1:38:59

Right.

1:39:00

Sorry, I'm trying to get this um the other items on here.

1:39:41

Sorry, I just want to make sure my staff knows I'm trying.

1:39:45

Okay, thank you.

1:40:00

Okay, so that would be uh the items that were listed down here were Cesar Chavez Park, uh Cesar Chavez Day, which is March 30th or 31st.

1:40:05

Um, and then Chavez Huerta tribute site and solar calendar, Cesar Chavez Dolores Cuerta commemorative period, and Cesar Chavez Park Perimeter Trail Project.

1:40:19

So I am I appreciate that.

1:40:22

I I think the issue is on a lot of these, you know, the the parks commission is tasked with renaming parks.

1:40:30

You know, that some of those those names are a little different, and so I I would suggest um that maybe we should keep them separate and and because I think we need to figure out what kind of process is put in place for changing these other things that are not actually the name of a park, right?

1:40:51

So I so I I I don't think that this item is equipped to handle that, and I do appreciate how comprehensive your list is.

1:40:58

Um so I would just just for simplicity's sake, because I know we have a heavy night tonight in terms of other items, and everyone is here for the the following item.

1:41:06

Maybe just keep this one simple and just that's fine.

1:41:09

Yeah, the park process going and and the removal going, um, and then and then look at everything else, which I think we do need to put more time into how um you know each community group or commission would look at that.

1:41:22

Yeah, that makes sense.

1:41:23

Yes, that's fine.

1:41:24

Okay, okay, that's why I was asking.

1:41:25

So all right, so with that, I will see.

1:41:28

Sorry.

1:41:28

Were you gonna say something, Mark?

1:41:30

No.

1:41:30

Okay, with that, I will see if there's any public comments on the item.

1:41:43

Seeing no public comment in person, is there any public comment online?

1:41:47

There's two hands raised.

1:41:49

This is for public comment on the urgent item regarding renaming uh Cesar Chavez Park.

1:41:55

The first hand raised is Lisa Teague.

1:42:08

Go ahead, Lisa.

1:42:09

You should be able to you're unmuted.

1:42:16

Sorry, are you saying you No, Lisa?

1:42:19

You're it shows that you've unmuted.

1:42:21

You should be able to provide comments.

1:42:26

Lisa, are you there to give public comment?

1:42:30

All right, we'll come back to Lisa.

1:42:34

Uh Della Luna.

1:42:38

I just wanted to note for the record that I'm actually witnessing you all like move swiftly.

1:42:44

This happened, I believe, last week, Wednesday or Thursday, and here four or five days later, you already got something on the agenda and you're passing it.

1:42:51

So this is evidence that you all actually can move quickly.

1:42:55

Thank you.

1:43:00

All right.

1:43:01

Anyone else?

1:43:02

The other person lowered their hand, so that's that's it.

1:43:07

Okay, thank you very much.

1:43:08

Any council comment on this item.

1:43:14

We have a I can I can uh move the item as amended.

1:43:20

Second.

1:43:21

Okay.

1:43:21

Moved and seconded.

1:43:23

Okay.

1:43:24

Yeah, so no comments.

1:43:26

I I will just say that we put together this comprehensive list in our having our conversations with the community.

1:43:34

We went and visited the Berkeley Historical Society.

1:43:37

They had an exhibit on Latinos in Berkeley throughout our history, which was really incredible.

1:43:41

So I'm sorry if you missed it.

1:43:43

Hopefully they'll have it again.

1:43:45

Um but in those conversations, they expressed extreme um just extreme feelings of being very upset at at finding news about about these allegations about Cesar Chavez.

1:43:59

So I do think it's important.

1:44:00

I know we have a long meeting tonight, but I think it's important that we address that.

1:44:03

Um, that that was incredibly disturbing to a lot of folks, and that they wanted time to kind of figure out how they were feeling, what process would be good to change the names and to give the community time to address this in the way that they felt comfortable doing so.

1:44:20

So I just wanted to explain, you know, why we also included other items as well in our item, and I'm looking forward to that that item come forward later.

1:44:29

Um so thank you very much.

1:44:30

That's all I wanted to say about it.

1:44:32

Yeah, and and Madame Mayor, I do want to thank you, and um I do appreciate how comprehensive that list is.

1:44:37

Like, as I I hadn't seen it, and and we do need to make sure we are um you know, look look at everything and and have the community process.

1:44:45

So I feel very good about um not dictating a name right now and and making sure that we hear from the commemorative committee as well as other stakeholders and and arrive at at a new name, you know, as a as a community.

1:45:00

So thank you very much.

1:45:00

Yeah, thank you.

1:45:01

Okay, and with that, I will see if there's any opposition to approving this item.

1:45:08

Okay.

1:45:09

Councilmember will keep will be noted as absent.

1:45:11

Okay, thank you.

1:45:12

Oh, council member is there any opposition to approving this item.

1:45:17

Okay, great.

1:45:18

So we will approve this item as well.

1:45:20

Thank you very much, Councilmember, and to those who are co-sponsoring.

1:45:24

Okay, so now we have item number 25, which is adopt a resolution authorizing temporary employee of retired and new attendant Kathy Lee as interim director of police accountability.

1:45:35

Um actually, I know Jose is here.

1:45:38

Did you want to say anything?

1:45:48

Okay.

1:45:52

Um I will yes, okay, so um I have some remarks to read on behalf of Kathy.

1:46:04

Um she says, Honorable Mayor Ishii and members of the city council.

1:46:09

I first want to thank you for deciding to fill the director of police accountability position temporarily while you search for a permanent director.

1:46:15

With that decision, you have signaled to this community the importance of ensuring that the vital work of ODPA and the police accountability board continue.

1:46:22

Second, I thank you for putting your trust in me to be the interim DPA.

1:46:27

You have my word that I will serve with all due gravity and integrity.

1:46:30

A few friends and colleagues, upon learning of my plan to unretire, have wondered whether congratulations are in order.

1:46:37

And I have to confess that my immediate reaction upon being asked to consider back was a hard no.

1:46:43

But the more I thought about it and about my tenure as the police review commissioner, commission officer, and then as the interim director of police accountability, the more I realized how strongly I felt about making sure that meaningful civilian oversight of our police department lives on.

1:46:57

I had become a true believer in the value of community members, helping keep our police accountable and ensuring that police policies, practices, and procedures reflect this community's values.

1:47:06

Civilian oversight has a long history in the city of Berkeley, starting in 1973 with the voter adopted ordinance creating the police review commission.

1:47:14

I believe that this early institutionalization of police accountability in Berkeley has resulted in a police department that has been relatively responsive to the community's needs and concerns, and one that is committed to working with our diverse population.

1:47:26

As policing methods, patterns, patterns of crime, and the makeup and needs of our resident residents change over time.

1:47:34

Continued oversight is needed to ensure that our police remain accountable to the public.

1:47:38

Since 1973, more jurisdictions have adopted some form of civilian oversight of their police departments.

1:47:44

Berkeley at some point was no longer the leader but lagged behind other agencies in its powers and independence.

1:47:49

Thus, the Charter Amendment creating the ODPA and PAB in 2020 was proposed, and its easy passage showed that a huge majority of Berkeley voters favored a more robust system of police oversight.

1:48:00

The framework for an independent body, no longer under the city manager's office, is in place.

1:48:04

But as we've seen it, the devil is in the details.

1:48:07

Just as the police department wants effective tools to do its work, the ODPA and the PAB need effective tools to perform meaningful oversight.

1:48:14

It's more than a little sad to me that permanent regulations for handling complaints against officers are still not in place, although I understand we are close.

1:48:21

I read with great dismay about the resignation of two PAB members, longtime PRC commissioners with whom I had worked due to their frustration with how PAB and ODPA did not seem to have more real powers than under the old structure.

1:48:33

And I find no joy in the circumstances resulting in my appointment today.

1:48:37

I guess I love a challenge.

1:48:38

And I confess to being an eternal optimist, although that outlook is being sorely tested by the current president.

1:48:44

I intend to work collaboratively with all stakeholders while representing the voices of the community as we navigate our work to find common ground on so many significant issues, including the use of emerging new technologies and revisiting the use of forced policy.

1:48:57

I look forward to re-establishing relationships with those whom I have worked previously, and I'm eager to forge new relationships, especially with the members of the police accountability board and with the staff of the ODPA.

1:49:07

Speaking of who, whom I want to thank Jose Morillo for holding everything together as acting director and to Chair Josh Cayetano and the other three PAB members for their heavy lifting during this period of transition transition.

1:49:20

I regret the timing of my appointment coincides with the long planned trip out of the country.

1:49:25

However, I look forward to seeing all of you in the near future.

1:49:28

Last but not least, I understand that some of you without current appointees to the PAB have candidates in the pipeline.

1:49:34

For those of you who do not, I respectfully urge you to make your appointment a priority.

1:49:38

Again, my thanks.

1:49:39

Kathy Lee.

1:49:41

Okay.

1:49:42

Wow.

1:49:43

Well, um, okay, so I do also, yeah, we can clap for that.

1:49:47

Yeah.

1:50:00

Um, I want to say that I have had numerous conversations now with Kathy, that she has been incredibly supportive, um, very excited to get to work, um, has already reached out to both Chair Cayetano and Jose and other staff has actually gone in person that she continues her relationship uh with with folks who are in the police accountability sphere and attends conferences.

1:50:12

So I have a lot of confidence in her ability.

1:50:14

Um, and just her letter, I think really shows that she has been following what's going on, really understands these issues and cares a lot about it.

1:50:22

So I am very excited to have her on board.

1:50:24

Um, and so um are there any questions from folks?

1:50:29

Um I do want to mention as we have the opportunity that we already have formed a subcommittee with Vice Mayor Lynn Opara and Councilmember Humbert in order to find a permanent replacement for the PAB.

1:50:40

And we've already had our sorry for the ODPA director of police accountability, and um we've already had our first meeting, and I'm very excited about that process moving forward.

1:50:49

So, Kathy, don't worry, we are gonna find a permanent replacement.

1:50:53

I know that's that's something she's eager for us to do.

1:50:55

So, okay, as long as there are no questions.

1:50:58

Is there any public comment on this item?

1:51:00

Yes.

1:51:01

Kit, come on up.

1:51:07

Uh I had some occasion to uh work with Kathy Lee when she was in the role uh both both as the uh director of police uh the interim director of police accountability and before that it went with the uh police review board, I guess it's called.

1:51:21

Um, and she is really very good.

1:51:23

I mean very happy that she's accepted.

1:51:26

I'm very happy that you appointed her.

1:51:28

Thank you for reading that letter.

1:51:29

I hope we all sort of reread that letter several times.

1:51:32

There's a lot in there.

1:51:33

Thank you.

1:51:34

Thank you, Kate.

1:51:36

Other public comment on this item.

1:51:43

Hi, folks, Nathan Myzel.

1:51:45

Um, I served on the PRC and PAB with Kathy Lee.

1:51:48

Um, there is no finer public servant than Kathy Lee.

1:51:52

Um the issues with police counter in the city do not emerge from her or her service or a time as interim.

1:51:59

They emerge from this council's refusal to pay attention to police oversight.

1:52:06

It emerges from the city attorney's office refusal to enforce what the voters of the city passed into law in 2020.

1:52:14

It emerges from a city manager who has seemingly falling asleep at the wheel as a police chief overwrites or say's use of force policy.

1:52:24

That was passed by this council completely unlawfully.

1:52:28

So Kathy is a great public servant.

1:52:30

I'm thankful she's here as interim.

1:52:32

Y'all fired the last director as he tried to defend our charter.

1:52:36

Let's let's hope you find someone decent to do the job, and we'll be paying attention on who you decide to select.

1:52:42

Thank you.

1:52:43

Thank you.

1:52:50

Hi, good evening.

1:52:51

Uh, my name is George Bresville.

1:52:52

I was a long time over side practitioner city of Berkeley.

1:52:55

I'm here actually on behalf of NACOL, the National Association of Civil and Oversight Law Enforcement, I'm the Vice President Organization to say thank you very much for your thorough and fast appointment of Kathy Lee.

1:53:07

We hold her in high respect.

1:53:09

She is an individual with high integrity, and her work is um second to none.

1:53:14

So we congratulate you for this move for her appointment.

1:53:18

We're confident that she will reach out to NACOL for whatever work she needs in other support.

1:53:23

We are here to support the council as well.

1:53:25

On a side note, I would say that as you look at the next candidate, and I said to some council members, please do your search for someone who works in the state of California.

1:53:36

I think somebody who's from California will understand the dynamics of oversight in California as well as stakeholders.

1:53:43

Thank you so much.

1:53:43

Thank you.

1:53:44

Thanks.

1:53:44

Thanks, George.

1:53:45

Good advice.

1:53:49

Hi, thank you.

1:53:50

Uh I'm I appreciate everything that can be done to uphold police accountability, and I want to note the 85% mandate for uh police accountability, independent police accountability in the city.

1:54:04

Um, and we're seeing a trend of center right city councils undermining such independent oversight in cities in the Bay Area, especially San Francisco and Oakland.

1:54:14

And in the and we're seeing that pattern here with the two recent resignations of two members of this police accountability board um in the name of really supporting this board for the four members left on the nine-person board.

1:54:28

Were they given enough time to evaluate a very important item that's coming up next on today's agenda?

1:54:34

And what did they say?

1:54:36

Because I saw some supplementals from some of you, but I didn't say what the police accountability board to say had to say about something that is horrible for sanctuary city policy and law right now.

1:54:48

Thank you.

1:54:48

Thank you.

1:55:00

I don't have a lot to say about uh the appointment, but I do have some historic memory of meeting Bobby Seal in a program where before we had the uh police accountability org passed, he was trying to make comments and make us aware of why it would fail.

1:55:11

And one of the reasons that he gave was that there is no power in it, and that the city council and and different uh city authorities will strip it of its ability to do anything under the way that it's that's constructed, which doesn't give it any power, and now I see it taking place.

1:55:31

And Chip Moore was removed when he was trying to do a good job, and as we see the flock thing went through and it caused disintegration of whatever council uh whatever police accountability board we had, and now we're trying to piece it back together.

1:55:47

So there's a lot of mismatch and disconnect with the city and what the police accountability board should be and the rights that it should have.

1:55:55

Thank you.

1:56:01

I do believe I have another minute.

1:56:04

Um I I also am a former police review commissioner.

1:56:08

Um I quit that body because it was so unable to hold the police accountable.

1:56:14

I quit in in great frustration.

1:56:17

Kathy Lee always she has lots of integrity, she's a wonderful person.

1:56:22

I feel bad because we jumped out of the pan and into the fire.

1:56:27

Because the police association mangled the revisions.

1:56:33

We were trying to make the PRC stronger.

1:56:35

And two years of meet and confer, two years, so that they could write what they wanted.

1:56:41

Please remember that the police association, the police department didn't even campaign against the formation of the PAB, because they knew how weak and declawed and powerless it was.

1:56:55

This is a crisis in our city.

1:56:57

Look at the San Francisco.

1:56:58

If you don't believe, if you don't believe us about racial disparities, look at the San Francisco Chronicle.

1:57:04

Their police reporting, their rip of data is saying that 8.9% of police stops in and in the city of Berkeley were of black people who were let go.

1:57:16

There was no basis for the stop.

1:57:19

There's no control in the police, and to be honest, to sit here and watch you guys compliment them.

1:57:25

It looks like a Trumpian cabinet meeting.

1:57:29

Absolutely uncritical.

1:57:33

Absolutely unquestioning of the data that you are spoon fed.

1:57:40

There is no outside auditor.

1:57:42

There's no outside agency.

1:57:45

So Kathy Lee may succeed.

1:57:48

If she is allowed to, if she's given independent counsel, if she is given the opportunity, if she's given the support and the funding.

1:57:58

But right now the PAB is a total, absolute waste of time.

1:58:04

And there's a crisis in this city.

1:58:06

Thanks, Andrea.

1:58:13

Speaking, excuse me.

1:58:15

Uh speaking to the subject of actually having an accountability board with power, I still think there's a lot of accountability that needs to happen around the firing of the last director.

1:58:24

And maybe we need to have a policy set up where the director isn't immediately fired for doing their job too well.

1:58:29

We would love to know why they were fired, why it was we won't know that because they were fired in a closed door meeting, and it was acceptable because they were given 200 grand of severance.

1:58:39

That's our money.

1:58:40

Um this is a bad use of resources to to just take everything apart the way you are.

1:58:47

Um everyone speaking to it.

1:58:48

Please do better.

1:58:50

Thank you.

1:58:52

Thank you.

1:58:53

Is there any public comment online for item 25, which is adopting resolution authorizing temporary employment of retired and Kathy Lee is interim director of police accountability?

1:59:04

We have uh John Lindsey Poland.

1:59:11

Uh good evening, John Lindsay Poland of the American Friends Service Committee.

1:59:14

I worked with Kathy Lee when she was at the PRC, highly competent, highly skilled, lots of integrity.

1:59:21

And as she noted, there are five uh uh vacancies, and those vacancies are for the districts of councilmember Taplin, Councilmember Bartlett, Councilmember Tregob, Councilmember Blackaby, and Mayor Ishi.

1:59:37

And the reasons there's no other city commission that has that many vacancies.

1:59:41

Why could that be?

1:59:42

The reason is because you have dissed them.

1:59:45

So when you approve Kathy Lee's appointment, which I am sure you do, and I support you doing, I want to hear you say that you're gonna give more support and more attention to the PAB's recommendations coming in the future and now, tonight.

2:00:00

That's what I want to hear you say when you approve Kathy Lee's appointment because that's gonna wait what make her job more effective.

2:00:08

Thanks.

2:00:11

Next is sorry, I I was just confused because Councilmember Blackaby had put his, but okay, go ahead.

2:00:17

Were you gonna respond?

2:00:18

I just want to state that my commissioner resigned because he had a baby and was a hurry leave.

2:00:23

And I have new personnel.

2:00:26

Well, let me jump in too then.

2:00:28

Uh my commissioner moved away and I replaced him two months ago.

2:00:32

He'll be on the board soon.

2:00:33

A great young man, I must say, by the way.

2:00:37

Sure.

2:00:37

So uh yeah, go ahead.

2:00:39

Go ahead.

2:00:40

Let's who's next.

2:00:41

Okay.

2:00:41

Next is Kieran Chinoy.

2:00:45

Good evening, Mayor and members of council.

2:00:47

Karen Sharai here, I just wanted to commend you, Mayor, for bringing forward this resolution to appoint Kathy Lee as interim director of police accountability.

2:00:54

I've had the unique opportunity to observe Kathy's work from an earlier chapter in Berkeley's police oversight system.

2:01:00

In 2013, when I was serving as chair of the police review commission, I sat on a panel to evaluate candidates for the commission officer role.

2:01:07

At that time, the commission was in a difficult place.

2:01:09

We had gone through three officers in just two years and operating in what I would describe as a very charged and at times unstable environment.

2:01:17

During that panel process, it became immediately clear to me that Kathy Lee was the right person for the job.

2:01:22

What stood out was not just her qualifications, but her demeanor.

2:01:25

She brought a calm, steady presence into a room that needed exactly that.

2:01:29

Just as importantly, she projected an unmistakable sense of impartiality in a role where credibility depends on public trust.

2:01:35

That quality is not just valuable, it is essential.

2:01:38

She went on to serve for nearly a decade in that and similar roles, providing continue continuity, professionalism, and consistency in a space that had previously lacked it.

2:01:47

I strongly support that.

2:01:48

Thank thanks so much.

2:01:49

Appreciate your comment.

2:01:51

Next is Mar.

2:01:56

You say you have a lot of confidence in her abilities, so I really hope you do listen to Kathy's recommendations while she's working as the interim director.

2:02:07

And I hope that whoever you do select as the permanent director is not just going to tell you what you want to hear, say that everything in Berkeley is good and that we should just let Chief Jen Lewis do whatever she wants.

2:02:19

The PAB does need to be given independent counsel, especially if the city attorney is going to side with the police and choose to represent them over representing the police accountability board.

2:02:30

Um and if the city manager is going to keep siding with the police every time a complaint comes up.

2:02:35

And it's very frustrating that you guys keep choosing when you get to respond to public comment.

2:02:40

Earlier you said you can't respond, but then when it comes to defending yourself or making yourself look better, you guys do respond.

2:02:47

So either you can respond to us or you can't.

2:02:50

Either you'll ask our questions and respond to our questions, or you ignore us.

2:02:55

Like why do you're doing both ways?

2:02:57

It's really frustrating.

2:03:00

Thanks.

2:03:00

Thanks for your comment.

2:03:02

And and to clarify, it is typically not our practice to respond.

2:03:06

Sometimes folks choose to respond, and I allow them to do that when they want to.

2:03:11

So continue on.

2:03:13

Uh Daniel Brownson.

2:03:16

Um I hope that uh under Kathy Lee, the uh police accountability board will have some actual teeth, and that you'll actually take uh the PAB's recommendations and make policy based on them.

2:03:34

That's all.

2:03:36

Thank you.

2:03:38

Okay, that's it.

2:03:40

Okay.

2:03:41

Oh, you have a comment on this item?

2:03:43

Yeah.

2:03:44

Come on up.

2:03:50

So, yeah, the police accountability board, didn't that get voted in for like a lot of percentage so that people could weigh in on what goes on?

2:03:59

And look what's happened.

2:04:00

So many people have resigned.

2:04:02

And I don't know this person, but uh Lee, but I've seen her in the meetings, and she's conducted herself well.

2:04:10

And um, let's hope that happens.

2:04:14

And I just also wanted to remind people that Pamela Price is running for re-election, and we can vote for her.

2:04:22

And um free Palestine.

2:04:25

Thank you.

2:04:28

Okay, thank you.

2:04:29

Um, Councilmember Blackaby, did you have comments?

2:04:32

Yeah, very briefly.

2:04:33

Thanks.

2:04:33

Um, Madam Mayor, I just want to thank you for moving so swiftly and bringing this appointment.

2:04:36

Um, it is really important that we have someone in that chair, so thank you for doing that.

2:04:40

Um, I want to thank Kathy Lee for being willing to step into the breach.

2:04:44

Um, as plenty of people have noticed and observed, this is not an easy job in any circumstances, particularly not an easy job right now.

2:04:50

So we just really appreciate that she's willing to come out of retirement to do to do that.

2:05:00

I also want to thank Chair Cayetano and Vice Chair Leah Wilson and the current board members for really um stepping into this challenge.

2:05:05

Um significantly reduced board.

2:05:07

That means more than twice as much work that they're bearing.

2:05:10

So I just want to thank them for doing that.

2:05:12

And join the call to urge colleagues to make our appointments.

2:05:15

Um I'll also say that you know we've made our nomination.

2:05:18

We talked to multiple candidates, made our nomination, it's in the pipeline now.

2:05:21

Um I'm confident that we're gonna be filling the vacancies soon.

2:05:25

The other thing that has never been done that I that I would like to do as a council is um nominate a permanent alternate commissioner so that in the future again it's sort of a unique feature of this particular body in the charter.

2:05:38

Um because it's uh everything is council approved.

2:05:41

We need a council approved um alternate commissioner unlike other commissions or alternate board member, um, so that we always have someone that can step up and serve when there is a vacancy.

2:05:51

So I'll also be working on that component, but we can nominate that as a full full council.

2:05:55

But anyway, thank you, Mayor, and thank you to Kathy for agreeing to serve.

2:05:59

Thank you, Councilmember Humbert.

2:06:01

Yes, thank you, Madam Mayor, and I want to thank you for moving swiftly to appoint um Kathy Lee.

2:06:07

I fully support that.

2:06:08

She sounds like an incredible blue chip person to fill the role.

2:06:13

Um, and I look forward to working on the search committee with you and Councilmember Vice Mayor Luna Para.

2:06:21

Um, I want to commend my very excellent um PAB member Randy Wells, who's been serving for some time now.

2:06:30

Um thank you.

2:06:32

Thank you.

2:06:33

Um Councilmember Bartlett.

2:06:37

Thank you.

2:06:37

I want to say uh Kathy Lee is a wonderful person.

2:06:40

I served with her on the PRC when I was on the that board many, many years ago.

2:06:44

Too many years ago.

2:06:45

She was really um very astute, very fair.

2:06:49

She taught us all a lot, she taught the system.

2:06:52

Uh she was wonderful.

2:06:53

And so she'll be a good stand-in, and hopefully she can work with the new person and kind of get them on track.

2:07:00

Thank you.

2:07:00

Councilmember Traygum.

2:07:03

Uh, thank you.

2:07:04

I I wish to add my voice to the chorus of uh voices praising Kathy Lee while I never had a chance to work with her directly.

2:07:15

Uh for excellent reputation precedes her in a variety of different ways.

2:07:21

Um, and I am uh looking forward to uh having the opportunity to work with her again.

2:07:30

Um also wish to thank uh members of the PAB and Chair Kayatano.

2:07:37

Um as for our uh appointment process, it has been extensive.

2:07:44

We are taking this extremely seriously.

2:07:47

It is an important uh board.

2:07:50

Uh we're very close, and uh as uh one component of the process, there's the opportunity for uh the folks that we have met with to connect with our previous uh PAB member, former Commissioner Calavita.

2:08:11

So I look forward to um moving that forward and uh helping make sure that the commission is at full strength in short order.

2:08:22

Thank you, uh Vice Mayor Luna Para.

2:08:25

Thank you.

2:08:26

Um I I haven't met Kathy Lee yet, but I've heard great things all around, so I'm really excited um to work with her.

2:08:33

I also really want to thank um Chair Cayetano and Deputy Dir or Deputy Director Marillo for all of the work that they have done in the meantime.

2:08:46

Seriously, has been so amazing and impactful.

2:08:49

So thank you.

2:08:50

Yes, I want to add my thanks to both as well.

2:08:53

Um it's really been a pleasure to work with both of you as we've been moving this process forward.

2:08:58

Um and I do want to just address that at our uh council retreat, we talked about coordinating so that all of our um appointees to PAB came forward at the same time essentially, so that way um they wouldn't have to do as much onboarding because we know with our our smaller ODPA that it's a lot of work to onboard multiple people, so it's actually better if all of us put our folks forward at the same time.

2:09:22

I see a lot of head nods, so I just want to make sure folks understood why that was happening.

2:09:26

But just to say that certainly if anyone, especially anyone here who's interested in applying to be a PAB member, um please feel free to write us.

2:09:34

There's a process online.

2:09:35

Um we're really we are really looking, so it please feel free to send folks our way.

2:09:39

I know there are a lot of folks here who are interested in in um their work.

2:09:42

So thank you very much.

2:09:44

Um I would like to make this motion I'd like to make the motion.

2:09:49

Second.

2:09:50

Um, and let's just take a vote on it.

2:09:53

I think it'd be better to take the roll.

2:09:54

Okay, to approve the resolution authorizing Kathy Lee as the interim director of police accountability, Councilmember Kessarwani.

2:10:03

Yes.

2:10:05

Bartlett.

2:10:06

Yes.

2:10:08

O'Keefe.

2:10:09

Yes.

2:10:10

Yes.

2:10:12

Yes.

2:10:13

Humbert.

2:10:14

Yes.

2:10:14

And Mary Ishii.

2:10:16

Yes.

2:10:16

Okay, I don't care.

2:10:18

Motion is approved.

2:10:19

Very exciting.

2:10:19

Thank you.

2:10:20

Um, and thank you all for your public comments on that as well.

2:10:23

So it is 8 30.

2:10:25

Um, like I said, I knew it was going to be at least around eight o'clock, so we are at 8 30.

2:10:30

Um, we are gonna take a 15-minute break before item 26.

2:10:34

Um, and we will come back after that.

2:10:36

And just as a reminder, how so just so folks know a little preview, um, how that will go is we'll have our our um our chief will present on this item, and then we're going to have the pad present on their recommendations, and then we have a number of different supplements that are our supplementals that are coming.

2:10:57

So we do.

2:10:59

I think we're at four.

2:11:01

We're at four supplementals, so we all need to present our supplementals.

2:11:05

And then we will take council questions, and then we will do public comment, and then uh we will have deliberations.

2:11:11

So just so folks are clear on what the process is going to look like.

2:11:14

That's what it'll look like, and we're gonna take a break from now.

2:11:16

Hey, folks, please.

2:11:17

Can I finish?

2:11:18

All right, it's eight thirty-four, so we will be back in fifteen minutes.

2:11:22

Thank you.

2:11:24

Recording stopped.

2:11:29

And you want some people different.

2:11:31

We're we've got a group going on flip the Berkeley City Council.

2:11:59

And then I want to say anyone landing.

2:12:06

We have a recall going for me.

2:14:33

I know it's gonna be great.

2:18:26

Anyway, I think now I just want it to be like this.

2:19:19

Yeah, so I'm gonna see it.

2:20:26

It's like asking that they're like this very now I think.

2:21:11

Yeah.

2:23:14

I think that's what they're saying.

2:24:03

Yeah, I think it's not I just have the interesting way to go right there.

2:24:37

I think also I have to see that.

2:25:10

I have to see that you don't think that's what I think.

2:38:02

Recording in progress.

2:38:23

Okay.

2:38:24

Wow.

2:38:25

Hi.

2:38:26

We've got the whole crew.

2:38:28

Okay.

2:38:28

So folks, can I have your attention, please?

2:38:31

I know you're eager to get started on this.

2:38:33

So please have your s have a seat.

2:38:36

Settle down.

2:38:39

Folks.

2:38:41

I need I need it to be quiet before we begin.

2:38:44

So if you see a neighbor speaking.

2:38:48

Okay.

2:38:49

We're almost there.

2:38:50

I'm very sorry.

2:38:51

I know it's really hot.

2:38:52

We've got some doors open here.

2:38:54

I've opened these doors.

2:38:55

We've got the fans on.

2:38:57

So um it is really hot, so please just like let's make sure that there's seats for anybody who needs a seat.

2:39:03

And also, if you'd like water, I believe there's a water fountain around the corner, so I just want to make sure folks take care of themselves.

2:39:09

If you're getting really hot, please feel free to step out and get some fresh air.

2:39:12

I don't want anyone passing out.

2:39:14

That would be horrible.

2:39:14

Okay, folks, I need you to be quiet, please.

2:39:19

Okay.

2:39:20

Thank you.

2:39:21

All right.

2:39:21

So as I said before the break, the way that this is going to go.

2:39:25

We're going to move on to item twenty six.

2:39:27

We are going to have a presentation from our city staff.

2:39:29

And then we're going to have a presentation from Pav and the ODPA.

2:39:32

And then we're going to have a presentation of all four supplements.

2:39:36

And then we will take council questions and then we'll open up for public comment.

2:39:40

So for folks who are standing up on the wall getting ready to speak, that's fine.

2:39:43

Just know you're going to be standing for a little while.

2:39:45

And then um after that we will have council deliberation.

2:39:48

So that's the process of of what we'll be doing for the rest of this evening.

2:39:52

All right.

2:39:52

I'm going to pass it over to the chief.

2:39:54

Oh no.

2:39:55

I asked you to do that.

2:39:57

Thank you, Mayor Ishi and Council.

2:40:00

Folks, thank you for the opportunity to be here tonight to bring this package of uh contracts before you.

2:40:07

Uh I understand and have heard a lot of concern from folks about Flock and particularly in this moment in time.

2:40:15

And we have worked very hard collectively between the police department and the city attorney's office, my office, uh, to draft language in the MSA that is as protective of the city as possible, knowing that this is a this is a dangerous moment in time.

2:40:34

Um we do feel, and I do feel that the balance of of safety outweighs the risk that presents itself in this MSA.

2:40:43

Um if things do go in a bad direction, we have the ability to exit this um this contract and the and the MSA.

2:40:51

Um we also have uh a serious structural budget deficit.

2:40:56

We have a uh under staffed police department and having the ability to uh create better efficiencies by bringing these um services into the city creates the opportunity for us to have a safer city.

2:41:11

Uh and I'm very proud of the work that the police department has done.

2:41:15

I'm proud of the work the city attorney's office has done to get us to this point.

2:41:19

Um, and I look forward to hearing some of the the details from uh the police department's office.

2:41:24

Look forward to hearing the presentation from the PAB and then this this discussion that we'll have as a community, and I I hope it will uh land with an approval.

2:41:32

So with that, I will turn it over to Chief Lewis.

2:41:35

Thank you.

2:41:36

Thank you.

2:41:37

Thanks.

2:41:38

Please I know you want to speak, and I want to give you time to speak, so please let's hear from our city staff and be respectful so they can present.

2:41:47

Go ahead.

2:41:47

Thank you.

2:41:48

Uh good evening.

2:41:49

We're here to talk through today our proposed public safety technology package.

2:41:54

I want to be really clear from the start.

2:41:56

This is not about de-emphasizing our service focus focused public safety that we give to the city.

2:42:02

Uh we continue to invest in and value the community partnerships and the direct contact that we have with our community.

2:42:08

This is a request to give our officers better information so that they can be more effective at the same time.

2:42:14

We leverage tools that can help make the community a safer place.

2:42:19

We have worked on these items with the city attorney's office, the PAB, the Public Safety Policy Committee, and community members over more than three years and 25 public meetings to this point.

2:42:28

The item you see tonight reflects that input.

2:42:31

Earlier today, we gave a presentation detailing crime trends and public safety initiatives over the past year.

2:42:37

While we have a lot to be proud of, we know we still have work to do and support to support a thriving vibrant community.

2:42:43

What we're presenting tonight is our best proposal on how we do that under very strange, strained budget and staffing circumstances.

2:42:54

So I want to start with the big picture.

2:42:56

This slide shows how all of the technology that we're discussing tonight fits together.

2:43:00

The model we're proposing is called a real-time information center or an Arctic.

2:43:05

On the left, you see the technology feeds, the LPRs, fixed cameras, community video streams, and drones.

2:43:12

In the center, you see the analysis.

2:43:14

You see the investigative software used by an analyst, um, gathering that information that we receive and and making actionable information from it.

2:43:22

Situational awareness, case intelligence, and and uh trend analysis.

2:43:26

That information then can guide our patrol officers and our detectives so that they make more precise informed decisions in their work.

2:43:35

I want to uh emphasize that in all of this, all these decisions remain human-driven.

2:43:40

This provides us resources in a more efficient way, gathers and collates data in a way that lets us uh make intelligent decisions, but it's all human-based.

2:43:48

Um I also want to uh emphasize that an Arctic is not a novel concept.

2:43:52

Uh we routinely do this kind of work when we activate our EOC in the city.

2:43:57

That is um applying those same principles of centralizing information, improving coordination, and getting the right resources to the right place faster.

2:44:05

Um, with that, I want to hand it briefly over to uh the fire chief to talk about that uh Arctic model.

2:44:13

Thank you, Chief.

2:44:14

Good evening, all I want to speak briefly to why the Arctic matters to the fire department and to our city's emergency operations center.

2:44:21

When the city activates the EOC for a major incident, an earthquake, a wildfire, a large-scale planned event.

2:44:28

One of our biggest challenges is getting real-time information so we can have an understanding of what's happening in the field.

2:44:36

We're pulling information from multiple sources, trying to coordinate across trying to coordinate across sources, uh across departments and making resources, resource decisions under pressure.

2:44:51

Many local jurisdictions have built partnerships between their real-time information centers and their emergency operations centers.

2:45:00

When those cities activate for a critical incident, the RTIC is one of the first resources they bring online.

2:45:06

For Berkeley, this means the investment the police department is describing tonight doesn't just serve daily law enforcement operations.

2:45:15

It builds infrastructure that strengthens our citywide emergency management posture.

2:45:19

And I see that as another significant benefit to this investment that should be considered.

2:45:27

Okay, so uh I I know this might seem like a lot, but most of this technology that we're talking about is in new to the city.

2:45:34

Um the four technologies uh on the screen here uh involve uh renewals or updates or tools that the department already uses.

2:45:43

Um drones as first responder uh and community video streams are new, but only in that they are an expansion of the current way that we use those technologies.

2:45:52

So this slide gives you a quick reference for each of the previously approved items that the department already uses.

2:45:58

Um LPRs, these cross uh reference license plates against hot lists for stolen vehicles, uh missing persons, felony warrants.

2:46:05

We already have 52 cameras.

2:46:07

The ask tonight is to renew the contract.

2:46:09

Uh fixed PTZ cameras.

2:46:11

We've had cameras for several years at the marina and at San Pablo Park.

2:46:15

Uh council approved 16 solar powered cameras at high traffic pedestrian intersections uh last year, and uh we're asking for authority to sign that contract.

2:46:24

Uh field deployed uh drones.

2:46:26

These are drones that officers carried incident uh incident scenes for aerial views and interior building searches during high risk warrants and emergencies.

2:46:34

Um council approved use of these a few years ago in a mutual aid capacity, and in tonight we're proposing to purchase our own drones.

2:46:41

Um and the investigative software brings together databases that we already have access to.

2:46:45

Um not adding anything new.

2:46:47

Uh, just think our like computer aided dispatch, records management, um, and digital evidence, just bringing all that into one searchable system.

2:46:54

Uh and this is uh as part of a grant to directly support our gun violence intervention and prevention program.

2:47:01

Okay, so to turn to uh the two items that are new to council, um community video streams and drones as first responder, uh community video streams.

2:47:10

This is a uh proposal to allow businesses that already have cameras to give the police department direct access to that footage.

2:47:17

So under this proposal, uh the police department, you're being so respectful.

2:47:22

I really appreciated the quiet.

2:47:24

Let's let Arlo finish, please.

2:47:26

Thank you.

2:47:26

Uh the police department wouldn't install or own any cameras under under this program.

2:47:30

Um the cost to the city for hardware would be zero.

2:47:33

So uh we'd just be utilizing uh privately owned cameras, uh, which is a concept that might sound familiar because we have had a camera registry for several years, and this kind of just builds on that concept.

2:47:42

Um so before any camera is activated in in this system, our proposed policy would require that we conduct a pre-integration review uh with an in-person site assessment.

2:47:52

Uh we would require that there be signage that indicates that this program is in place at each location, uh, and each integrated camera location would be published on the city website.

2:48:02

Uh and camera owners were trained full ownership of their cameras and their data and can revoke access at any time.

2:48:07

Um the public safety benefit here is is the same as our uh fixed PTZ cameras.

2:48:12

Um awareness of a scene before officers arrive, uh which is critical during ongoing crimes, um, directly support our investigative efforts after the fact.

2:48:22

You know, right now officers uh go door to door canvassing for video footage and uh they this would uh replace that slow manual process with something immediate and and coordinated.

2:48:32

Um this is the theme for all the technologies that we're talking about tonight is swifter investigations with a higher likelihood of of solving the crime.

2:48:41

Uh privacy protections on this one, uh access would be restricted to active investigations only, facial recognition, uh of course is strictly prohibited, and all accesses are are logged and audible.

2:48:52

Um and this footage would not be shared to outside agencies.

2:48:57

Thank you.

2:48:58

I'm gonna cover the drone as first responder on this slide.

2:49:01

Uh so this is the second new item, and here's how it works.

2:49:05

Drones launch theoretically from uh rooftop docking stations at the public safety building and fly directly to the scene of a call.

2:49:13

Real-time crime information center analysts will view the live aerial video and relay critical information to the responding officers.

2:49:21

In agencies across the country operating DFR programs, drones routinely arrive on scene within minutes and often faster than patrol officers.

2:49:32

And in some cases, it's only two minutes.

2:49:34

So operationally, this is a shift before an officer arrives.

2:49:38

We already have eyes on the scene.

2:49:40

We can assess whether there's an active threat, a medical need, or if the report is unfounded.

2:49:45

That level of certainty allows for better tactical planning and supports de-escalation when officers don't know what they're walking into, they prepare for the worst.

2:49:55

And when they know, they can respond proportionately to what's actually happening.

2:50:00

Peer agencies using DFR report that about 25% of calls that drones respond to can actually be resolved without sending a patrol unit at all.

2:50:08

So that's a meaningful resource multiplier, freeing our officers to focus on higher priority needs while still delivering service.

2:50:16

And on privacy, our draft policies are clear.

2:50:19

Drones are deployed only for specific calls for service, never for random patrol or general surveillance.

2:50:25

And cameras face the horizon while they're in transit and only orient downward once they're at an authorized scene.

2:50:32

So every flight path is logged and published to a public transparency portal, typically within about an hour of the drone landing.

2:50:40

And these drones will never be weaponized and they will not carry facial recognition.

2:50:45

And this isn't just a police tool.

2:50:47

DAFR also has significant value for fire and emergency medical response, and I'd like to invite Chief Sprague from the fire department to speak about that.

2:51:00

When we get dispatched to a structure fire, the first minutes on scene are about gathering information.

2:51:06

Where's the fire?

2:51:08

How far has it progressed?

2:51:10

Are there signs of people inside?

2:51:12

Where might the fire spread?

2:51:14

Right now, that assessment happens at a ground level when our first engine company arrives.

2:51:19

An aerial drone that's already overhead when we pull up gives my incident commanders a view from the roof, the rear of the building, and adjacent structures that we simply cannot get from the street.

2:51:32

For wildfire incidents, the value is even more direct.

2:51:36

We need to see how the fire is moving through terrain, where spot fires are developing, and which evacuation routes are still viable.

2:51:45

A drone gives us that picture in real time without putting a helicopter in the air or waiting for mutual aid air resources from the state.

2:51:54

On the emergency medical services side, think about a mass casualty incident or a major traffic collision on the freeway.

2:52:01

A drone overhead lets us do a rapid triage before units arrive.

2:52:06

How many patients are there?

2:52:08

Where are they?

2:52:09

What access routes are clear for ambulances and other responders?

2:52:13

That helps shape our entire response.

2:52:16

Water rescue incidents where a drone can use technology and search for heat signatures in the water much more rapidly than manually deploying rescue swimmers in watercraft.

2:52:27

And for hazmat incidents, we can assess the scene, read placards, and evaluate vapor spread from a safe distance rather than sending personnel into a hazardous environment.

2:52:40

I'll wrap up with a real life example of how this technology has been used.

2:52:45

The video you're watching demonstrates one example of how a mutual aid drone was used during a four-alarm high-rise fire on university.

2:52:55

A drone was used to support early firefighting operations by guiding our water stream application.

2:53:01

It continued to assist as the building smoldered over the following week.

2:53:07

The structure had been so severely compromised by fire that officials feared it would collapse, which led us to the decision that we could not send firefighters inside the structure to extinguish the deep-seated fires.

2:53:21

Drone footage provided a bird's eye view, allowing crews to identify where the water was needed without sending firefighters into the unstable structure.

2:53:30

The fire department is supportive of the DFR program and looks forward to the operational partnership it represents.

2:53:40

Thank you, Chief.

2:53:41

I want to start with a real example that shows exactly why these tools matter.

2:53:46

Last September, we investigated a six-case home invasion and burglary series that were targeting women who were home alone.

2:53:55

Three were home invasion robberies and three were residential burglaries.

2:54:00

ALPR cameras were critical to solving that case.

2:54:07

Investigators identified a suspect vehicle, and a flock ALPR data, the flock ALPR data showed that a vehicle following the victim vehicle just three seconds behind, directly directly linking it and the primary suspect to the entire series.

2:54:24

That suspect was ultimately charged with all six cases.

2:54:28

That outcome matters.

2:54:29

Without ALPRs, it would have taken significantly significantly longer to build that case, and that individual would have remained free to continue targeting women in their homes.

2:54:40

In 2025 alone, ALPRs generated more than 120 arrests and investigative leads.

2:54:47

That's the investigative impact.

2:54:49

Now zooming out, this is also about capacity.

2:54:52

We're operating below authorized staffing while the city is managing a structural deficit.

2:54:58

And RTIC addresses both.

2:55:00

Today officers often respond to calls with limited information, and with an Arctic, a single analyst can integrate multiple live data streams, drone footage, fixed cameras, community video, and ALPR data, all in real time from one dashboard.

2:55:15

That's not surveillance, that's preparation.

2:55:17

It means faster response, better decisions, and safer outcomes.

2:55:22

And in a department below authorized strength strength, it makes every officer more effective on every call.

2:55:28

The data supports this.

2:55:30

Cases supported by real-time centers have shown up shown up to 66% higher clearance rates.

2:55:37

So this program delivers real public safety value, which is victim closure, safer outcomes, stronger investigations, data-driven policing, and it pays for itself from existing departmental budget.

2:55:53

I know there have been some questions about our vendor selection.

2:55:56

So let me address that directly.

2:55:58

When council directed us to explore these technologies, we assembled a team to evaluate best practices, capabilities, and vendors across all categories.

2:56:08

The review was comprehensive and included technology conferences, DFR certification training, hands-on demonstrations, site visits to active Artics, and direct engagement with agencies already using the systems.

2:56:21

We evaluated multiple vendors.

2:56:24

No other single vendor can deliver ALPR, fixed cameras, drone as first responder, analytics, and community video integration on one unified platform.

2:56:35

Axon came closest, but their system currently lacks real-time alerts and hot list functionality, which are core to how we operate.

2:56:44

On drones, performance was decisive.

2:56:47

And side-by-side demonstrations, flocks, DGI drones, DJI drones could clearly read license plates at 400 feet while main competitors struggled at half that distance.

2:57:00

And in one case, the other product completely lost signal.

2:57:04

That level of clarity matters because DFR is about situational awareness and understanding what's happening before the officers arrive.

2:57:12

It's in everyone's best interest for officers to have the ability to know what someone is holding in their hands before an officer arrives on scene.

2:57:20

We also spoke with nearly 20 agencies where Flock consistently received the strongest feedback to include Richmond, which is currently operating the system and describes it as invaluable.

2:57:31

There's also a critical regional advantage.

2:57:34

Every city in Alameda County uses Flock for automated license plate readers.

2:57:39

That creates a network effect.

2:57:41

When a vehicle linked to a robbery in Berkeley crosses into Oakland, Fremont, or Hayward, the system doesn't stop at the county line.

2:57:51

Officers across jurisdictions are working from the same platform, alerts and data standards, and crime doesn't respect boundaries.

2:57:59

The system reflects that reality.

2:58:02

And the ecosystem matters.

2:58:04

One platform means one dashboard, one audit trail, and one master services agreement.

2:58:09

That simplifies compliance with the surveillance technology ordinance and the police equipment ordinance, strengthens accountability, and enables real-time data integration across all systems.

2:58:19

Something that simply isn't possible when stitching together multiple vendors.

2:58:24

Finally, because this is a leasing model, the city retains flexibility.

2:58:28

If needed, we can transition to another vendor at the end of the contract term without being tied to owned info infrastructure.

2:58:38

The other side of the the why flock question is about our contractual protections and data security.

2:58:43

So I want to spend a minute there.

2:58:44

Um please.

2:58:48

So many of you are being respectful.

2:58:51

Thank you.

2:58:52

I appreciate that.

2:58:53

On the technical side, uh, every f every flock product line uses an end encryption.

2:58:57

Uh the cybersecurity infrastructure meets the same standards that all of our most sensitive data is held under.

2:59:02

Um, all access uh across every technology is logged through a single dashboard with a single audit trail.

2:59:08

Um, and flock is contractually required to promptly notify the city of any data security incident that occurs.

2:59:14

Um more on the contractual side that the city attorney's office uh reviewed the master services agreement, and uh every single red line that the city proposed was accepted by Flock.

2:59:26

So, what does that mean in practice?

2:59:28

Uh the city owns all this data.

2:59:29

Uh Flock is prohibited from selling, sharing, or distributing our data.

2:59:34

Um the city's data ownership and control survives even if the contract terminates, and we have uh contractual financial penalties for data breaches or unauthorized disclosures, uh, which mirrors the framework that Oakland's council approved for their Flock agreement in December.

2:59:49

Um we know that there are multiple supplemental reports tonight that we think will help strengthen the the MSA and uh we are supportive of re-engaging Flock to make sure that our MSA has every protection um that we need to feel confident in the in the agreement.

3:00:04

Um I know that there are concerns about federal access to data.

3:00:08

Um federal immigration authorities cannot access our data with anything short of a court order signed by a judge.

3:00:14

Uh in administrative subida is not.

3:00:18

Please, hey, come on.

3:00:20

I'm I'm really looking forward to hearing your public comments.

3:00:22

I'm gonna sit there and I'm gonna listen to everything you all are saying.

3:00:25

I'd like you to be respectful.

3:00:27

You will be respectful of our city staff while they present.

3:00:30

So this is consistent with our sanctuary city ordinance uh and with state privacy law.

3:00:34

Um and in the case that they do receive a warrant, they're required to notify us, which would give us time to uh assess its validity and decide on how we want to respond.

3:00:43

Um I also want to note that FLOC has made meaningful changes nationally in response to the same concerns uh communities like ours have raised.

3:00:51

Uh FLOC has added filters for impermissible search reasons, uh restrictive by default permission controls, um, and in California has made it impossible to share ALPR data outside of the state.

3:01:03

Outside of the as we wrap up our presentation.

3:01:13

And tonight we're asking council to take three categories of action.

3:01:17

We've tried to lay that out for you.

3:01:18

Uh, first, under the STO, accept the acquisition reports and use policies for UAS and community video streams and approve the updated use policy for fixed cameras.

3:01:28

Second, under the police equipment ordinance, accept the impact statement and use policy for our unmanned aerial systems program.

3:01:35

And finally, third, provide contract authority to amend our existing flock contract to renew ALPRs and include DFR, fixed PTZ cameras, and the NOVA investigative software.

3:01:48

So thank you.

3:01:48

And we're looking forward to hearing um both Pab's presentation and answering questions.

3:01:52

Thank you.

3:01:53

Okay, so we will now hear from Pab and ODPA.

3:01:57

They have a presentation, so I it'll probably take a minute to switch over the mics and all that.

3:02:09

Thank you, Chiefs.

3:02:11

Well, Chiefs and DC Tate and Arla.

3:02:15

All right.

3:02:22

Whenever you're ready.

3:02:27

Thank you, Honorable Mayor, Honorable Council members.

3:02:30

Um, thank you for the opportunity to present to you today.

3:02:33

Um I'm here with acting director Jose Murillo and my vice chair and colleague Leah Wilson.

3:02:39

Um I also would like to thank um the community members who have attended the community sessions put together by the mayor and the council and also um BPD for discussing with us our recommendations.

3:02:50

But most of all, I'd also like to thank um the four um PAB board members who have really risen to the task in providing council with uh our best set of recommendations under very difficult circumstances.

3:03:02

Some of these recommendations we reviewed within 24 hours, and I still would stand by every single one of them.

3:03:10

With that, I'm gonna pass to our vice chair Leah Wilson to present um on the first item.

3:03:16

Let me advance the slide.

3:03:23

All right.

3:03:24

So our core recommendation this evening is that the council defer action on all three of the surveillance items before you.

3:03:33

Council, council is ultimately being asked to approve four programs.

3:03:38

That's the ALPR, the fixed cameras, the community video streams, and drones that will operate as one integrated tracking system using acquisition reports that have never analyzed what that combined system can do.

3:03:55

In fact, two of the acquisition reports were submitted to you prior to the department's move to a consolidated surveillance environment.

3:04:04

That's ALPRs and fixed cameras.

3:04:07

The combined capability where one operator can query a license plate, pull fixed camera and community video footage, and dispatch a drone in real time, creates a privacy impact that is categorically different from the sum of its parts.

3:04:26

This development represents the largest surveillance expansion in the city's history, and it deserves careful and deliberate consideration.

3:04:36

Unfortunately, speaking as your police accountability board, this has not occurred.

3:04:42

This decision is too important to be rushed.

3:04:51

It's me again.

3:04:52

I would I would I love the support.

3:04:54

I would I would support a quieter clap so that we can hear her speak.

3:04:57

I want to make sure I hear her too.

3:05:00

So to protect all of our rights to hear these presentations.

3:05:01

So thank you.

3:05:02

Is it is it okay for counsel?

3:05:04

Can you feel responsible in waiting?

3:05:07

The answer is yes.

3:05:09

The chief alluded to the presentation of the department's annual report earlier today, and you see on the slide some very impressive crime statistics.

3:05:18

We see that crime has gone down in all categories, a significant categories, not only in the last year, but over the last four years.

3:05:27

These trends mirror what we've seen nationally.

3:05:30

In fact, in 2024, the FBI reported that violent and property crimes across the country were at their lowest level since 1969.

3:05:41

There is not a crisis in this city that should compel you to feel again like you have to rush a decision that needs to be carefully made.

3:05:57

So you don't have to rush, and to do to act today would be premature.

3:06:03

First of all, we have serious concerns about the intention to uh partner with Flock safety.

3:06:11

There are the concerns that obviously you will hear this evening from our chair and I'm sure from many of the community members that are here today.

3:06:19

But what I want to speak to you is the fact that we have not seen any documentation of the vendor selection process at all.

3:06:27

In fact, tonight in slide seven of the department's presentation, that's the first time that I've seen any of the metrics that were used to base the decision to go with Flock versus a different vendor.

3:06:40

That is good procurement.

3:06:43

I've been told that the reason that the department does not have an articulated list of requirements for the uh surveillance uh vendor is that this was not put out for bid.

3:06:55

However, those of us that are familiar with procurement know that even when you don't put something out for formal bid, you do need to document the requirements for the system that you are trying to procure.

3:07:07

We've never seen it.

3:07:08

I don't know if you have, but this is good government to have a very transparent and clear vendor selection process, and we don't think it's been done.

3:07:20

Another reason that action tonight would be premature.

3:07:23

There's been inadequate time to review these materials.

3:07:25

I don't want to repeat what you've you did hear briefly from our chair.

3:07:29

We had 24 hours to review the Master of Services Agreement, and we are down to four members.

3:07:49

This is not reasonable to expect us to catch all of the MSA modifications that need to be made, as well as the compliance issues that are existing in the policies as the department has put them forward.

3:08:04

We simply haven't had time to do that work, nor is it reasonable again to expect us to be the catch-all auditor of what the department is putting before you.

3:08:15

The third reason action tonight would be premature.

3:08:18

There has been no combined assessment of this entire uh surveillance architecture that you are being asked to approve.

3:08:25

And I'm gonna speak to that a little bit later.

3:08:28

So the fourth reason is that as I mentioned, with 24 hours to review, we were able to yet instill advanced to you over 30 instances of either MSA modifications that needed to be made or material non-compliance issues with the policies that were presented to you.

3:08:47

And when I say material, I mean that the policies and the acquisition reports contain uh failures to comply with the Berkeley Municipal Code as well as state law AB 481.

3:08:59

You simply cannot approve these without first demanding that they be legally compliant.

3:09:06

Okay, move forward.

3:09:18

And for us, the PAB really focused on considering the unique benefits that the department says flock can provide through a consolidated centralized surveillance system and whether whether they outweigh the privacy risks and community safety risks posed by the vendor that BPD selected and that the contract that BBD is asking the city to enter into.

3:09:37

And so when we analyze that risk and we consider all the publicly available data, we didn't see that analysis reflected in the acquisition report.

3:09:45

The acquisition report that is before you, I believe, on page 15 of the agenda, if I'm if I'm um understanding that correctly.

3:09:53

Um the BMC specifically enumerates specific things that the department is required to put in there, for example, the experience of other entities.

3:10:00

For example, the experience of other entities.

3:10:04

As we all know, the experience of other entities with Flock has been in the news for the last six months, and yet that is not mentioned in the acquisition report.

3:10:13

At the community meeting, um different community members raised concerns of different police chiefs, the Mountain View Police Chief, the Ventura County, the Ventura County police chief who have publicly spoken out and said that Flock is not to be trusted, and yet that is not reflected in the acquisition report.

3:10:30

And we think that that should have been, and that the risks of that should have been weighed and publicly available for the for the community to understand.

3:10:37

Another example, Senator Ron Wyden said in a public in a in a public oversight investigation that he conducted further oversight and determined that Flock cannot live up to its commitment to protect the privacy and security of Oregonians.

3:10:50

An abuse of Flock cameras is inevitable, and Flock has made it clear that it takes no responsibility to prevent or detect that.

3:11:12

Ordinance, excuse me, specifies that the experience of other entities is to be reflected in the acquisition report, and we don't think it was accurately reflected.

3:11:22

Another issue is we see certain flaws in the massive services agreement.

3:11:25

Um I think that Vice Chair Leo Wilson will speak a little bit more to that, so I'm gonna skip over that item.

3:11:30

We also didn't see reflected in the acquisition report the concentration risks.

3:11:34

We saw um an explanation of why consolidation under a single vendor would be benefit would be beneficial to the department, but we didn't see the flip side analysis of why concentration risk would actually pose a threat to public to privacy.

3:11:51

And then the lack of document uh the lack um the of documented vendor selection process vice chair Wilson also talked about.

3:11:58

The last thing I wanted to mention is really this conflict with sanctuary city commitments.

3:12:06

That was not mentioned a single time in the acquisition report.

3:12:12

And I think it was important to note that even though Flock has publicly stated that they're they're contractually bound to notify the instance.

3:12:23

I think we have an example of just two weeks ago where the Modesto police department discovered that their nationwide lookup was turned on without their consent and they turned off their cameras.

3:12:32

This is five months after the first police department this notified Flock that this was an issue, and yet five months later, Medesto County, Medesia Medesto City discovered it on their own through a public records request, not through an audit.

3:12:47

I think that's a concern.

3:12:49

I also think it's a concern.

3:12:52

You know, the PAB was really reflective that Berkeley has a sanctuary city commitment.

3:12:58

And what that means is is it okay for Berkeley to contract with the vendor, even if Berkeley's own data is safe, if that vendor if that vendor and their business model relies on the sharing of data, and that other police departments can then share that their data, not maybe not Berkeley's data, but other data with ICE for immigration enforcement purposes and whether that's consistent with the birth with the Berkeley's sanctuary city commitments.

3:13:27

I was reminded of another example.

3:13:29

Um talking to one of our staff members who's um you know a trans a trans man, and he reminded me that um Flock and Flock part of the contract with Flock is to allow Berkeley's data to become aggregated and anonymized, and that will be used to train its AI model.

3:13:47

And you know, they are concerned that their person without consent that their data will be then used to train a model that will be then employed by Kansas's police police department to under to then prosecute crimes about entering bathrooms that they think that he they should not be that they should not enter into.

3:14:05

I think it's a concern of the community, and I think it's a concern that was not addressed in the acquisition report.

3:14:09

So I think all these examples should have been in the acquisition report and they weren't.

3:14:13

And the community was concerned at the last community meeting that there was no weighing of the balance of risk with the operational benefit that Flock specifically provide that they say Flock provides.

3:14:25

Next slide.

3:14:26

All right.

3:14:27

So we're asking you tonight to defer action, and then we're also acting asking you to direct some action.

3:14:33

So the first affirmative ask is that you direct the department to complete a consolidated BMC 299 report, an acquisition report for the entire surveillance ecosystem.

3:14:46

Um our chair mentioned some of the risks of having such a consolidated system, irrespective of who the vendor is, and the fact that the current acquisition report only speaks to the benefits.

3:14:58

There are significant risks.

3:15:00

There's operational dependency.

3:15:01

When you consolidate all of these programs with one vendor, you're extremely dependent on that vendor.

3:15:07

That vendor has significant leverage over you over time in terms of cost, in terms of changes to the system, and in terms of their independent ability to make changes to policies and the parameters for the operating system for their program.

3:15:24

Once we have all four of our surveillance programs running through one vendor, we are very unlikely to readily leave or feel that we can leave.

3:15:34

And that is something that must be addressed in an updated acquisition report.

3:15:38

And then I want to speak to another element.

3:15:41

I mentioned before that we have not had the opportunity to view the entire surveillance architecture for what it for what it truly is.

3:15:50

You saw in BPD slide, it was interesting.

3:15:52

They sort of the slides, they highlighted only two things as being new and kind of skipped over the new investigative power software.

3:16:02

I thought that was interesting because I think actually Flocknova is what is referenced there, and I think it's quite new.

3:16:09

Um I think that FLOCNOVA and its capabilities really do highlight some of the issues that need to be addressed in this new consolidated acquisition report.

3:16:20

So the very purpose of FLOCNOVA is to aggregate data across all systems, and for that data to be accessible to FLOC clients.

3:16:30

That's the very purpose of FLOCNOVA.

3:16:32

That's something new that we don't have the right to today that we will under this proposal.

3:16:39

Neither the MSA or any of the materials that we've reviewed give Berkeley the right to consent before NOVA is activated or expanded, nor do they give us the right to control what kind of data is submitted to the NOVA system.

3:16:56

So this is vital information that should be included in an updated uh consolidated acquisition report.

3:17:10

All right.

3:17:11

If the city uh council chooses to move forward today in contract with Flock Safety, we believe you need to modify uh direct modifications to the agreement with Flock.

3:17:22

This is reflected in several of your supplementals, and I'm sorry, Councilmember Bartlett, I've not had the time to analyze yours, but I did have the time to take a look at the other two.

3:17:32

And I do believe that all of these points on this particular slide are addressed in one of the two supplementals uh directing further modification or amendment to the Flock Master Services Agreement.

3:17:44

I will say that some of what I heard in the department's presentation this evening surprised me because there's some assertions that suggest that some of these items have already been addressed and agreed to by FLOC.

3:17:55

That is not information that has come to us previously.

3:17:59

Let's move on to the next slide.

3:18:01

Even with the supplementals, there are additional modifications to the MSA that I would encourage you to consider if you do uh decide to go ahead with Flock today.

3:18:13

I did see a suggestion, first of all, that the penalties for breach violations be increased from 75,000 to 150,000.

3:18:22

I reiterate here what was shared in our written material that Oakland uh has a penalty of 200,000 per violation, Richmond 290,000.

3:18:33

It's unclear why the city of Berkeley would agree to any less of a penalty provision.

3:18:39

In addition, none of the supplementals address the exemption in the penalty language for the lookup tool, ACT data violations that are done pursuant to FLOC's lookup tool.

3:18:53

And this is a really important feature, which our chair just alluded to.

3:18:57

I want to make it clear that this is one of my understanding is one of the central benefits of FLOC.

3:19:02

This is a tool that allows participating jurisdictions, and I believe the deputy chief spoke to that, to actually look up and access data for other jurisdictions that are on the FLOC system, and they can do that without getting the affirmative permission of the other jurisdictions.

3:19:19

Right now, in your penalty provision in the MSA, any data breach or data violation that is done pursuant to a jurisdiction's use of the lookup tool is entirely carved out of the penalty.

3:19:34

That needs to be amended.

3:19:36

Last but not least, we made a recommendation that the city preserve its full legal remedies when actual harm exceeds the penalty amount.

3:19:46

So right now, as the MSA is written, the entire remedy or recourse for data breach violations is a monetary penalty.

3:19:55

Currently, 75,000, as several council members have recommended, 150,000.

3:20:01

Imagine if a disclosure leads to an immigration enforcement action against a Berkeley resident.

3:20:08

They are detained, deported, their family is separated.

3:20:12

Do you feel that 150,000 is a sufficient remedy for that violation?

3:20:18

I think it most likely is not.

3:20:20

Imagine if a data breach exposes information about many thousands of your uh Berkeley citizens, and you are asked as a city to pay for the cost of remedying our credit or credit monitoring services.

3:20:37

You would face potential civil liability from your community.

3:20:41

You wouldn't be able to go after FLOC for any of that.

3:20:44

The way the contract is currently written, you need to pursue amendments that protect the city's bottom line.

3:20:51

If Flock's negligence is egregious or repeated, you may want to pursue punitive damages or injunctive relief.

3:20:59

You're not able to do that either, as the MSA is currently structured.

3:21:04

So while I appreciate the amendments that have been put forward in the supplemental, I strongly urge you to consider additional amendments really to protect the city from a fiscal perspective if if nothing else.

3:21:24

We have two more topics.

3:21:26

Sorry, I can can you give me a sense of how much minutes.

3:21:29

Okay, thank you.

3:21:30

Um we have two topics.

3:21:32

One of them is very brief to discuss next next slide, please.

3:21:35

Um then skip that slide too.

3:21:38

The first is about um all the use policies and our our recommendations that are I didn't know they were called.

3:21:45

That cover um the um all policies that have been submitted to you.

3:21:49

Um our first recommendation is that you impose consistent audit requirements across all policies.

3:21:55

One of the issues that we've seen is that jurisdictions are not um not identifying noncompliant issues um until months later because they are not consistently auditing their data.

3:22:05

And so our recommendation is at least monthly audits and then biannual reporting by the department to the PAB.

3:22:11

The second is inconsistent notification standards.

3:22:14

A few months ago or a month ago, the council asked the department to notify them set within 72 hours of a request by ICE for any information from their department.

3:22:23

And I that's only reflected in one policy.

3:22:25

Right now, we would like to see it reflected across all policies.

3:22:28

Next slide, please.

3:22:30

The last set of recommendations specifically concerns the drone use uh program and their the use policy that the department is presenting, which was not touched on um so far, so I think um I'm gonna spend my last few minutes on this slide here.

3:22:44

The drone use program as the the use policy as a department is proposing does not limit it to specific authorized uses.

3:22:50

Instead, it says that the the drone the drone may be used for specific authorized uses, and then doesn't does not uh limit it to those specific issues, uh those specific authorized uses.

3:23:02

And I think that's the reason for a couple issues, uh, an issue for a couple reasons.

3:23:06

The first is that the municipal code actually requires that BPD explicitly identify each authorized use for any surveillance technology ordinance.

3:23:16

And so instead of limiting and and making transparent what each authorized use is, they've decided to make it permissive such that there's an unwritten authorized use an unwritten authorized use that is effectively whatever else the department says is permissible that is not explicitly prohibited by the by the policy.

3:23:35

We think that's an issue.

3:23:36

It's an issue for transparency sake, it's an issue for auditing sake, and it's an issue because Berkeley residents decide deserve to know why why and how they're being surveilled.

3:23:48

The second recommendation specifically um ties to data retention policy.

3:23:52

BPD's data retention policy um is proposed data retention policy is 60 days.

3:23:58

Um we recommend tying the data retention policy, tailor it to each use, tailor it to the uses that BPD says and the purposes that BPD says they're actually deploying the drone for.

3:24:09

For example, when they deploy a drone for vehicle pursuits, the purpose is offer officer safety in order to understand the terrain.

3:24:17

Um none of that purpose requires achieving that purpose is not require retaining the data.

3:24:23

And we think that the narrow retention data respects Berkeley Berkeley residents' privacy um rights, and it also protects from warrants requests from immigration officials because the only protection when the data is when they come with a with a judicial warrant is that the data doesn't exist.

3:24:44

We also think that there is there are concerns around the oversight and accountability mechanisms.

3:24:48

Right now, the BPD use policy for drones does not require supervisory approval, and it doesn't require BPD operators to actually um specify the reason for the drone deployment.

3:25:00

We think those two things are common sense parameters to ensure oversight.

3:25:13

One of the um authorized uses that BPD is proposing is um to respond to criminal activity and mass gatherings.

3:25:21

And the the the police department or excuse me, the police accountability board was specifically concerned about this because the pliant nature, the pliant definition of criminal of criminal activity.

3:25:56

And if the data is retained for 60 days per BPD's policy, they would be able to look back at that policy to look back at that footage and to see if there's any other potentially criminal um if there's any actionable um activity in that footage.

3:26:12

And I think you know, for me, this specifically was um a concern because before joining the the PAB, um I was working with the lawyers committee for civil rights um specifically in litigation um against the county of Sacramento Police Department, and the police department ended up having to settle for hundreds of thousands of dollars specifically because they were using their drones to survey all protesters in a way that chilled First Amendment rights and the drone use policy that BPD has presented has essentially the same prohibitions that Sacramento Police Department had, and so they are inadequate.

3:26:47

I'm gonna leave the other ones on there so that we can conclude our presentation.

3:26:51

Um thank you for thank you for listening.

3:26:58

Okay for your presentation.

3:27:07

Um we now have four supplementals that need to be presented.

3:27:11

I I don't have a strong preference for order.

3:27:14

Is there anyone who would like to go first?

3:27:16

Don't we need to accept one of them first?

3:27:18

Um we need to vote to accept set this up three.

3:27:23

Moving on.

3:27:24

Oh, sorry, Mr.

3:27:29

City Clerk, can you weigh in here, please?

3:27:32

So there was uh the the revised agenda material from um Councilmember Bartlett uh needs to be voted to be accepted for uh consideration by two-thirds vote that's this one.

3:27:48

Yeah.

3:27:52

Yeah, so here's uh my supplemental.

3:27:55

I want to get involved as well.

3:27:56

I felt lonely out there.

3:27:58

Uh and so my supplemental six we just have to denounce it.

3:28:06

No, no, I I think it makes sense for him to say what's on there before we decide if we're accepting it.

3:28:10

So go ahead.

3:28:10

I've never seen, I've never done a supplemental before.

3:28:12

It's my first time.

3:28:14

I gotta learn the litany.

3:28:16

Oh, okay.

3:28:17

Um so this is uh this is um um these are my efforts to um to enjoy the conversation and offer uh my edits to to the to the contract, the master service agreement.

3:28:28

Um and I guess I can read the the language inside this this box on the page.

3:28:33

Uh the purpose of the supplemental material is to clearly define the legal boundaries within which the city may utilize automated license plate reader, A LPR technology, and other surface service, other surveillance services.

3:28:45

This supplemental will ensure that any vendors who are contracted to provide ALPR and surveillance technology services operate within specific parameters that will safeguard residents' privacy, civil rights, and Berkeley's sanctuary city ordinance, while maintaining city city control of access and usage of data generated from the technology.

3:29:05

The supplemental will incorporate good of the city provisions to ensure full transparency, control, and accountability in the deployment and operation of the technology.

3:29:15

These provisions will include strict mutuality of contractual obligations, materially increased penalties for any unauthorized data access or disclosure, and a clear private right of action for affected individuals, including statutory damages and injunctive relief.

3:29:33

Okay.

3:29:33

Um there are some council members who have marked their do you have a something you'd like to say, Councilmember Humbert?

3:29:41

No, I'd just like to I would like to present my supplemental.

3:29:44

Oh we're not yeah, not quite yet.

3:29:46

We're just voting to bring it.

3:29:48

I understand that's um yeah, okay.

3:29:50

So it's for later.

3:29:52

Okay, so council member O'Keefe, did you have something you wanted to say?

3:29:55

I have a question for Councilmember Bartlett regarding his supplemental.

3:30:00

Um has the city attorney's office reviewed this.

3:30:03

No, they have not.

3:30:05

Okay.

3:30:06

Thank you.

3:30:09

Okay, so you are you making a motion?

3:30:13

Yeah.

3:30:14

I wish to include my supplemental.

3:30:16

Second.

3:30:18

Okay.

3:30:18

I'll call the role of this is to accept uh the supplemental from Councilmember Bartlett for consideration.

3:30:26

Uh Councilmember Kessarwani.

3:30:28

Yes.

3:30:31

Bartlett.

3:30:32

Yes.

3:30:32

Trego.

3:30:33

Aye.

3:30:34

O'Keefe.

3:30:35

Abstain.

3:30:37

Blackaby.

3:30:38

Yes.

3:30:38

Luna Para.

3:30:39

Yes.

3:30:40

Humbert.

3:30:41

Yes.

3:30:41

And Mayor Ishii.

3:30:42

Yes.

3:30:43

Okay.

3:30:43

Motion carries it.

3:30:46

Okay.

3:30:48

Now, um, Councilmember Humbert, would you like to present your supplemental?

3:30:52

Um Thank you, Madam Mayor.

3:30:53

Yes, I'd like to present the supplemental that I and Councilmember O'Keefe and Councilmember Taplin and Councilmember Kessarwani uh have brought.

3:31:05

Um first I want to thank um BPD uh Chief Lewis for all her work on these policies and on the master services agreement.

3:31:14

And I especially want to thank our city attorney and Stephen Hylus in the city attorney's office for their suggestions and review of our supplemental and also the city manager's office for their guidance.

3:31:26

And of course, I want to thank my co-authors who I just who I just named.

3:31:30

Um I also want to we everyone was working over the weekend on this, and I deeply appreciate folks taking time out of their schedules and lives to address community concerns and strengthen this agreement.

3:31:43

Um I also want to thank the PAB for its review and for its thoughtful comments and for its presentation here tonight.

3:31:50

Um I want to preface the rest of my comments by saying that I deeply respect the positions of all my colleagues and the concerns that we that I have heard, and I'm sure that I will hear further tonight.

3:32:02

I want to be clear, I agree that these concerns are justified.

3:32:06

We know the federal government is out to get people, and we also know there's been inappropriate access to ALPR data in other cities via FLOC, and then in some cases those cities have sought to exit their contracts.

3:32:17

At the same time, and as I discussed at our special meeting some time ago, I think there's good evidence that ALPRs and other technological tools are creating true public safety benefits that have real weight.

3:32:29

We've heard that tonight in the in the prior meeting in detail and also through the uh BPD's presentation earlier in in this meeting.

3:32:39

The question that I have grappled it with is what tips the scales for me.

3:32:45

Can we get to a place where we have sufficient protections for our data and ability to get out of this agreement that the risks are outweighed by the public safety benefits?

3:32:54

First, I think it is important to point out folks, please that in the context of a federal government that is literally snatching people off the streets just for how they look.

3:33:04

The marginal risks from inappropriately accessed ALP ALPR data are relatively small.

3:33:12

That said, I understand and can respect the argument that any marginal risk in this regard is too much.

3:33:18

That is a principled position that someone can take, in fact.

3:33:23

My view, please don't interrupt me.

3:33:26

You are entitled to your positions.

3:33:28

You're entitled to your opinions, but you will let everyone speak so that we can hear them.

3:33:32

It's okay if you disagree, it's just not appropriate for you to yell at them.

3:33:35

Go ahead.

3:33:41

One of my constituents who's a senior was brutally mugged and thrown to the ground in 2023.

3:33:47

And she was not alone in being a senior who was targeted.

3:33:50

And I know that other parts of Berkeley, most notably West Berkeley, South Berkeley, and District 2, um face constant threats of gun violence.

3:34:00

Robberies and car thefts, too, of course.

3:34:03

These are the real concrete everyday safety threats against which I'm weighing the more marginal impacts of things like data leaks from ALPRs and a limited number of fixed surveillance cameras and drones.

3:34:15

I believe that with the right amendments and with the ability to swiftly exit this agreement for any reason, and that's critical to me.

3:34:22

The ability to walk away.

3:34:32

And I please don't interrupt me.

3:34:34

And I'd ask um council member um Kessler Wani to put the put the um the uh supplemental up.

3:34:44

Um anyway, um as I I'm gonna repeat it.

3:35:00

I believe that with the right amendments and with the ability to swiftly exit this agreement for any reason, we can provide adequate protection to get these risks down to a level where they are outweighed by the public safety benefits, and that if changes we have made and and if that changes, we have the ability to get the heck out of Dodge.

3:35:12

So with that, I'm going to listen the basic versions off the basic versions of our group's six recommendations, and there are more details, details in the supplemental itself, which will be up on the screen.

3:35:29

One, increase the financial penalty for unauthorized data sharing from 75,000 to 100,000, 150,000 per violation.

3:35:39

Two, establish a termination for convenience right under which the city is not refunded for payments already made, but is not obligated for the remaining contract value.

3:35:50

Can walk away for whatever reason we want.

3:35:53

Limit Flock's license to use anonymized data to the term of the agreement rather than in perpetuity.

3:36:01

Four, require Flock to obtain the city's prior written consent before making any changes.

3:36:07

That's any changes to the city's data sharing settings or configurations.

3:36:13

Five, revise the special terms section to clarify the MSA Master Services Agreement, may not be modified without city council approval.

3:36:22

And six, remove the amendment and incorporate provisions on restrictions on data sharing into the MSA and stipulate that such provisions shall not be modified by subsequent FLOC amendments or attachments without further city council approval.

3:36:39

At this point, I also want to say, and I I've read this, um, Councilmember Blackaby's supplemental.

3:36:45

I also want to say that I'm very open to all of his recommendations and would be delighted if our supplemental and his could be integrated into a consolidated set of recommendations that would go to our city manager and city attorney's offices.

3:36:59

Now his recommendations include uh serious monitoring efforts requirements.

3:37:05

I think that with our powers combined, we would have a very strong master services agreement that I think would go very far to address community concerns and ensure that we can make use of these very helpful tools again with the option to get out if we want to and need to.

3:37:21

Thank you.

3:37:23

Thank you, Councilmember.

3:37:25

Um would you Councilmember Blackaby like to present your supplemental?

3:37:32

Sure.

3:37:33

Thank you, Madam Mayor.

3:37:34

If I can share thanks to Councilmember Humbert and team for their supplemental.

3:37:42

Um it was interesting on Monday to see all of the supplementals together and to reflect that there's a lot of commonality in the points that they've made and the points I've made.

3:37:52

I will say that their six points are a superset of what I've presented.

3:37:57

My three are are basically a subset of what they've presented.

3:38:01

But the whole idea here is you know, the thought behind this is that um, as we've heard earlier tonight, that public safety technology does play a critical role in supporting the BPD's investigations, clearing cases, enhancing officer safety, and strengthening overall public safety.

3:38:15

However, Flock's previous unauthorized sharing of surveillance data and promises that they've fixed these problems that must be monitored, verified, and ensure that they are actually following through on those commitments constantly, underscores the need for more robust safeguards in the master services agreement if we move forward in our use policies, as well as enhance program reporting and auditing to ensure full transparency, informed oversight and accountability as we move forward.

3:38:45

Especially I would say at the beginning as we're getting the new program off the ground.

3:38:49

Um, my supplemental is similar in some respects with what we've just seen from Councilmember Humbert.

3:38:56

Uh there's the penalty uh component, which is uh doubling the penalty, allowing the city to terminate the MSA for convenience, ensuring that we are not paying.

3:39:04

If we cancel earlier, we're only on the hook for what we've spent and what we've consumed, but not future payments.

3:39:10

We want full flexibility to be able to exit the agreement, which also gives uh again gives us more leverage and also an incentive for Flock to actually perform and maintain their commitments because we can exit at any time.

3:39:22

Um in addition, again, there is an existing technology ordinance or existing reports, but I don't think that given the changes that are being asked for that just the biannual process is sufficient.

3:39:34

And so my recommendation here is more frequent reports uh that are coming from BPD through the city manager of the council, even before the system is operational quarterly reports about installation, um, what's the progress and timeline, what are any early results for components that may go live before the full system and any issues or concerns that arise during installation.

3:39:56

Umce the system is in use, we need monthly reports for the at least the first six months of operation.

3:40:01

I'd be open to extending that, including but not limited to early results and performance evaluation of each component, issues and concerns, proposed solutions or fixes by the department, and also short case studies or synopses of what the technology is actually supporting.

3:40:15

Can we actually see uh what it is doing and get a better grasp of that?

3:40:19

And then three, thereafter alignments, existing practices for auditing and reporting.

3:40:23

We do have these existing audits for the ALPR twice a year, uh they get shared with PAB.

3:40:29

We also have an annual surveillance technology report um that's that comes to us.

3:40:33

Um so that's this the component.

3:40:35

So there's a contract component, which is largely similar and um a subset of what Councilmember Humbert and Councilmember Castroanian team have proposed, and an additional reporting and auditing uh requirements, especially early in the process to ensure that Flock is um adhering to the commitments they've made to the city.

3:40:53

Thank you very much, Councilmember.

3:40:55

Um Councilmember Bartlett, did you want to also share so folks can see the more detailed version?

3:41:00

Sure.

3:41:01

I think you might have to stop sharing.

3:41:02

Councilmember Blackby.

3:41:04

So I can uh thank you, thank you.

3:41:11

And um thanks for uh for honoring me with your attention from my supplemental.

3:41:15

Uh my first supplemental, as I said, my first one.

3:41:18

Um so listen, so you know, we we're here debating and kind of engaging in this um this classic tension between security and liberty, and America has always had this, even from the very beginning with the framers of the founding fathers, as they're called.

3:41:36

Um, this issue was talked about a lot, and it still is.

3:41:39

And it's something that we all negotiate with ourselves and our families, our communities, our neighbors, in our our states, our countries, within our laws, all the time.

3:41:48

And so tonight, this is the latest um sort of negotiation of a line of scrimmage between liberty and security.

3:41:59

Now, I want to say this regarding the um the the flock vendor, uh I can tell you I did I was I we worked in the privacy policy for a long time, like three years worked on it, because we taplin brought it um in response to crime in his district.

3:42:12

Uh and I didn't love it at first, but we hammered out, and we do have the best privacy policy in the state, probably the country as a city.

3:42:19

And uh did I tell a joke?

3:42:21

Uh when I'm when I make a joke, you'll know.

3:42:25

That was a good one, folks.

3:42:26

Come on.

3:42:27

Let him finish speaking.

3:42:28

Yeah.

3:42:28

And um, and uh so you know, so here's what I've seen.

3:42:35

One uh in front of the front of my predecessor's house, a car drove into and ran over a baby in a baby stroller across the street on Alcatraz.

3:42:45

They caught the guy within the hour.

3:42:46

Another time, someone set off 12 shots outside a playground in Malcolm X school, they caught him a little while later, less than the same technology.

3:42:54

Uh, there was a rapist caught in a different district that was caught uh due to the technology.

3:42:59

So I know I I know it's effective.

3:43:02

And you know, so that that aspect of the security piece where I feel responsible for your safety in my city uh is real.

3:43:10

And uh once you put yourself in my shoes for a minute.

3:43:13

Um, that effectiveness alone is not enough because we could just have a soldier in our house all the time, right?

3:43:23

And uh on this issue, policing works best when there's trust.

3:43:29

And so many of our constituents and all of my constituents, every single one I've talked to, I've talked to all of them, many, many, many, not one person supports it.

3:43:39

They are fearful, fearful of the the company we're working with.

3:43:44

Yes, because of what they've observed and what they've heard and what they've seen, and the impacts are on TV and all around us.

3:43:52

People are living scared, people are getting abused, there's a secret police force loose in the country, dragging people around, and people feel that.

3:44:01

And so, you know, I want I want stuff to work.

3:44:05

I do this job to make things work for people.

3:44:07

And I want to say this, and that in the as we negotiate the scrimmage line again between liberty and uh security, uh, district three has chosen liberty 100%.

3:44:19

So, in this instance, my my notes here, my edits to the master service agreement, the MSA.

3:44:32

Um, I've done my best to give it um balance, by that sperkly tipped it towards us a bit, um, and to make it um make it have teeth and make it work, right?

3:44:44

And so I've included a million dollar violation provision, and that's intentional because it rec out now because it recognizes that uh in in in the corporate world, only one thing matters, and that is the bottom line.

3:44:57

So let's talk your language.

3:45:00

And I do this for a living, you know.

3:45:01

So basically, I'm treating, I'm treating you all as if you're my client.

3:45:04

And if you had hired me to do your MSA, this would be the result.

3:45:08

Um how do you share this we do here?

3:45:11

Where's James?

3:45:17

Uh James.

3:45:22

Where is it?

3:45:22

Where is this thing?

3:45:23

How do I do this?

3:45:24

Just just here it is, here it is.

3:45:26

Just keep speaking.

3:45:27

I need to share this.

3:45:30

Ladies and gentlemen, James Chang.

3:45:37

No, the pages right, no, it's right there.

3:45:39

No, already on the Zoom.

3:45:40

The document the documents right there.

3:45:41

You just gotta make it right about that.

3:46:30

Okay, yeah, okay, we are okay.

3:46:31

So perfect.

3:46:32

So uh going through this here, um it's not moving.

3:46:38

Section 2.4.

3:46:40

Uh, this is um a section where essentially the original version, we don't have a lot of control of things.

3:46:47

So if they update the platform, we can't we we have no say in it.

3:46:51

And I I use the the the larger word, which is change, because you can typify an upgrade, but you can also just have a change.

3:46:59

So I just say um to what I replace it with where is it here?

3:47:04

Umright so replace platform changes, shall not implement activate or deploy any modification, enhancement, or new functionality that affects data collection, analysis, sharing access, or retention of the customer's prior written approval, which shall without without the prior approval, which shall require approval by the Berkeley City Council.

3:47:23

And this includes without limitation, features involving predictive analysis, pattern recognition, vehicle tracking, network sharing, or integration with third party systems.

3:47:33

And it's important because so many of the reports you heard about third parties accessing the data on um on a basis that may not be so evident uh to others.

3:47:42

Um and all data sharing settings shall be disabled by default.

3:47:45

Any deviation must be expressly approved in writing by the customer, which is us, and publicly disclosed.

3:47:52

All right, now we're going to section 4.1.

3:47:55

We are removing the revocable language.

3:47:58

Um yeah.

3:48:02

Perfect.

3:48:03

Uh and now uh section 4.1.

3:48:06

This is the irrevocable license requirement, just scratching that.

3:48:10

Um this license uh, let's see here.

3:48:13

What's the good language here?

3:48:15

Um this is a limited non-exclusive royalty-free, non-transferable license.

3:48:21

They also chat had a transferable accessible transfer language, which is not gonna work for us.

3:48:26

Uh, to use customer data solely to provide flock services to customer during the term of this agreement.

3:48:32

Um, and this license shall automatically terminate upon expiration or termination of this agreement, and flock should have no right to retain, use, or access customer data thereafter, except as expressly required by law and only for the minimum period required.

3:48:46

Okay.

3:48:47

Now, Forbidden 2.

3:48:50

Um, this new language at the bottom, there's a loophole in there.

3:48:53

Is it less than a share things that are that are mentioned in the agreement, right?

3:48:58

So just close it up here.

3:48:59

Uh it's just notwithstanding into the contrary, customer generated data shall not be used, shared, or accessed for any purpose other than providing services to customer and shall not be subject to any broader rights under section 4.3 or elsewhere in this agreement.

3:49:13

Uh now moving down to uh the perpetual rights, removing those again.

3:49:18

Um I have a different version of this actually.

3:49:21

Uh the anonymized data, okay?

3:49:24

Uh Flock may create anonymized data solely for the purpose of providing services to customer during the term.

3:49:31

And Flock should have no right to use anonymized data for product development, commercialization, or any purpose unrelated to services provided to customer.

3:49:40

And all rights granted under this section shall terminate upon expiration or termination of this agreement, and Flock shall delete all anonymized data derived from customer data in accordance with this section.

3:49:50

Data deletion down there.

3:49:52

Okay.

3:49:53

Um that restricts the the the way they share the data.

3:50:00

So Flock should not disclose, provide access to or enable access to customer data to any third party.

3:50:04

And again, third party is important because it keeps coming up in the reports that I read about third-party access to customer data by this organization, including any federal agency, except pursuant to a specific written authorization issued by customer for each individual request.

3:50:20

B.

3:50:21

Access by federal personnel embedded within or assigned to any state or local agency shall be prohibited unless expressly authorized in writing by customer for each instance of access.

3:50:32

C use of any shared lookup, query, or network-based access tool that permits third-party querying of customer data is prohibited unless explicitly approved in writing by the customer.

3:50:44

DNI access, including access facilitated through another agency, shall be deemed a violation of this agreement.

3:50:55

And this, I think it's Campbell termination for convenience.

3:50:58

This is a standard one.

3:51:03

Remember, too, when you do these things, we we're a valuable customer.

3:51:08

We have leverage in these agreements.

3:51:11

I know.

3:51:12

Yes, we do.

3:51:13

You just gotta act like we do.

3:51:15

You know?

3:51:16

I know.

3:51:17

So again, that wasn't a joke.

3:51:20

That's like actual real stuff.

3:51:21

Real you should know this.

3:51:22

Okay.

3:51:23

Mark knows.

3:51:24

He's a lawyer.

3:51:25

Okay.

3:51:25

Um assignment.

3:51:28

This is COB controls, our controls, right?

3:51:30

So notwithstanding the foregone foregoing, Flock may not assign this agreement to any affiliate, successor, or acquirer without written consent of the customer, which shall not be unreasonably withheld and shall require city council approval.

3:51:44

Okay, and no, there was this morality clause that held that Flock could break the contract with Berkeley if Berkeley all of a sudden did something bad.

3:51:54

I'm like, but not them.

3:51:56

So it's made a mutual.

3:51:57

Uh customers shall have the right to terminate this agreement immediately upon written notice if Flock or its officers or affiliates are indicted, found liable for violations of law, or determined by customer to have engaged in authorized unauthorized data access, sharing or misuse.

3:52:13

And now the unauthorized sharing section down there on the in the um the amendment.

3:52:19

This really gets to the to the core of it here.

3:52:22

Um any on any unauthorized access, disclosure, sharing, or use of customer data shall constitute a material breach of this agreement.

3:52:32

For each unauthorized access event, Flock shall pay customer liquidated damages in the amount of one million dollars per violation, or ten thousand dollars per affected record, whichever is greater.

3:52:44

Each individual query, access event, or data retrieval shall constitute a separate violation.

3:52:50

And the remedies set forth herein are cumulative and shall not be deemed the sole or exclusive remedy.

3:52:55

Customer retains all rights at law and in equity, including the right to see conjunctive relief.

3:53:01

Flock acknowledges that the unauthorized access to surveillance data creates irreparable harm.

3:53:07

Customers shall be entitled to immediate injunctive relief without the requirement to postbond.

3:53:14

Private right of action.

3:53:16

Another important one.

3:53:29

Flock agrees that such individuals may bring claims for statutory damage of not less than $5,000 per violation.

3:53:36

Actual damages, punitive damages were permitted, and reasonable attorney's fees and costs, Mark.

3:53:43

He is an attorney, it's a joke.

3:53:45

That was a joke, see.

3:53:46

That was a joke.

3:53:46

Flock expressly waves waives any argument that is not a data, data controller, or that's an individual, or that's individuals' lack privity under this agreement.

3:53:55

And then, of course, mandatory data deletion within 30 days of termination or expiration of this agreement.

3:54:02

Flock shall permanently delete all customer data, customer generated data, or any derivative data, including anonymized data.

3:54:09

And FLOC shall certify a such deletion in writing, signed by the officer, by an officer of the company, and no data may be retained for product development, machine learning, or any other purpose.

3:54:18

So these are the elements I put in here because I could think of no other way to make my constituents feel safe with this agreement.

3:54:30

Okay, folks, please.

3:54:32

Alright.

3:54:33

So it is I think we're now finally on the fourth supplemental.

3:54:38

Um so I am going to present our fourth supplemental.

3:54:43

Give me a second.

3:55:00

Okay.

3:55:09

All right.

3:55:16

So this is a supplemental brought forward by myself, Vice Mayor Luna Para, and Councilmember Tregub.

3:55:23

And as it says here, in our supplemental item, we offer amendments to the policies, balancing benefits, and guardrails.

3:55:31

What we've suggested here overall is that we reject the contract specifically with Flock.

3:55:36

And that we hold on.

3:55:41

I want, let me let me finish so that we can get to your public comments, right?

3:55:45

Okay, so and also we make recommendations based on conversations that we had, both with the PAB, other members of the community, also and had conversations with the chief and Arlo and our city attorney's office.

3:56:01

So I'm gonna go over these a bit more.

3:56:06

Okay.

3:56:07

So this is a chart that just kind of goes over some of the things that were that we're suggesting.

3:56:12

So rejecting the flaw contract across the different items, referring some things back to staff, and also approving and or approving with amendments certain things because what we realize in these conversations is that we could approve a surveillance use policy that doesn't include uh the contract with flock, so we could separate those, which is why it's written this way.

3:56:34

So the first thing on here is to refer the community safety, excuse me.

3:56:39

Let me just amend this, okay.

3:56:45

Refer the community video stream acquisition report and surveillance use policy to the public safety committee for further review.

3:56:51

Request that the city manager work at the committee level to address the PAPS concern and clarify operational ambiguity.

3:56:59

Um here, I have to kind of jump back between my notes and the document.

3:57:08

So there are some more details here about adding in explicit prohibition on surveillance of First Amendment activity, unless there's clear articulable and imminent public safety threat that's actively occurring.

3:57:19

Specify concrete data retention periods with the four elements required by the BMC.

3:57:24

Conduct disparate impact analysis addressing whether camera coverage is concentrated in areas with particular demographic characteristics, supplement section 11 of the acquisitions report to disclose adverse findings from comparable jurisdictions, update immigration-related search reporting to match the 72-hour standard and named recipients in policy 351 section 351.6, prior sanctuary city ordinance.

3:57:51

Consider developing a use policy to address combined cross-platform use of all integrated technologies, regardless of vendor regardless of the vendor used, including ALPR fixed cameras, community video streams, and drones.

3:58:35

So for amending the surveillance use policy for the undemand aerial system to include the following provisions.

3:58:41

I'm gonna focus on the high level here.

3:58:45

So limiting the retention period for non-evidentiary footage to five days.

3:59:01

Strengthening the oversight by requiring semi-annual audits, uh, supervisorial approval, except for drones as first responders, and removing ambiguity for when UAS can be deployed.

3:59:12

There are a couple of minor edits that we'd like to make to this as well, um, including to clarify language to our supplemental.

3:59:19

So for the supervisory approval, it would say subsequent to supervisory approval for all deployments, with the sole exception that supervisory approval is not required for drones as first responders, and also edit the language around clarifying the language for the audits.

3:59:32

So the Office of Strategic Planning and Accountability shall conduct monthly audits of UAS use to check permissions settings and ensure that data is not shared with out-of-state agencies or federal law enforcement.

3:59:45

A report of these audits shall be published semi-annually and should be sent to the police accountability board.

3:59:50

And we're also referring to the city manager developed performance metrics, data governance, policy development, and deeper research on alternative sailor surveillance technology vendors capable of meeting Berkeley's safety and surveillance needs, while balancing the need for privacy and civil liberties protections.

4:00:07

Okay.

4:00:08

So that's that one.

4:00:11

Okay.

4:00:14

All right.

4:00:19

Um amending the surveillance use policy for fixed cameras to include monthly audits with a semi-annual audit report, same kind of edit there where it clarifies that it would be monthly audits, but then the actual report back would be published semi-annually.

4:00:40

Okay.

4:00:46

Okay, and this is for the police equipment ordinance, which is amend the UAS equipment use policy to include the same revisions as the recommendations for the UAS surveillance use policy, which is above, and refer the following request for information to the city manager to quantify the need for UAS.

4:01:04

Something also mentioned in the pad presentation.

4:01:13

Okay.

4:01:15

Okay, referring the UAS military equipment impact statement to the city manager for research and analysis of alternative surveillance technology vendors capable of meeting the city of Berkeley's safety and surveillance need while balancing privacy and civil liberties protections.

4:01:29

And then for the contract authority, reject any renewal, authorization, approval, or execution of the flock safety contracts.

4:01:37

There's some information there.

4:01:39

I refer to the city manager to amend ordinance 2.99 to include a violation termination clause for surveillance technology vendors and refer to the city manager and city attorney additional contractual language to require a vendor to inform the city of any requests for information, including but not limited to subpoenas, discovery requests, or requests under any federal or state statute to the extent permitted by law.

4:02:02

It was it receives it really it receives related to the city controlled data and safeguarded to the fullest extent allowed by law.

4:02:11

So these are all of the different pieces.

4:02:26

And I think that that kind of more clearly explains what it is that we're trying to do here.

4:02:31

So I'm gonna keep that up for a little bit longer so that folks can take a look at it.

4:02:37

Okay.

4:02:37

Madam Mayor.

4:02:38

Do you need to make it bigger?

4:02:39

Yes.

4:02:40

Uh knowing that we've got a ways to go, um, just want to step in.

4:02:43

I move we suspend the rules and extend the meeting time until 1 a.m.

4:02:47

Second.

4:02:48

I'd suggest 1.30.

4:02:50

Okay, 130.

4:02:51

Yeah, I want to make sure everyone has the opportunity to speak.

4:02:54

I'll second.

4:02:57

Okay.

4:02:59

All right.

4:03:00

Is there any objection to extending the meeting time till 130 a.m.?

4:03:04

Yes.

4:03:05

Folks, I'm sorry, you don't get to vote, and we want to hear you speak.

4:03:09

Otherwise, we're gonna end early, and then you're gonna be sad that we didn't get to hear from you.

4:03:12

So all right, so uh so is there any objection?

4:03:17

Okay, so we will extend the meeting time until 1.30 a.m.

4:03:20

Okay.

4:03:21

Um hoping that we don't go that long, it's just so that we don't have to cut off.

4:03:25

That's the only reason why we're doing it.

4:03:27

Okay, so um now we have presented all four supplementals.

4:03:31

Typically, this is where we get a chance to ask the questions, but I want to get a sense from folks about how many questions approximately they have.

4:03:37

So if you could just take a quick poll and then let me know, that would be really helpful.

4:03:43

Six.

4:03:43

Can I ask one clarify?

4:03:45

Is Mr.

4:03:45

Chandler available?

4:03:47

Okay, yes, I do have some either.

4:03:49

Flock representative will be is uh available for Zoom for questions.

4:03:54

So five, eight, eight.

4:03:58

Sorry, seven, six, two questions.

4:04:04

Okay, I have a couple questions?

4:04:08

I don't have specific questions right now.

4:04:10

Okay.

4:04:10

I'd like to ask because we have so many questions that we take public comment first and then we come back.

4:04:18

Otherwise, we're gonna lose people.

4:04:20

I'd rather I I think even if you have a couple of questions, there are so many other questions on the dais, it'll take like a long time.

4:04:30

So can we just let's let's take we're gonna take public comment first and we'll come back then.

4:04:36

Okay.

4:04:37

I don't want to lose too many people because it will take an hour to ask our questions, I think.

4:04:43

So okay.

4:04:45

Okay.

4:04:46

Thank you.

4:04:48

Um, all right.

4:04:49

So if you have public comments, please come up to the dias.

4:04:53

Okay, how this is going to work.

4:04:55

It's totally fine if you want to clap.

4:04:57

I prefer the snaps so that we can keep it moving.

4:05:00

We have so many people here who are giving public comments, so we really want to hear from all of them.

4:05:04

I ask that you all please be respectful, whether you agree or disagree with whoever's speaking.

4:05:09

I ask that you respect them.

4:05:11

Folks, I know you're discussing course trading over here, but please I want to ask that you all be respectful when folks are giving their public comments so we can hear from everyone.

4:05:20

And and then as soon as someone's finished, please come up and speak so that we can keep the line moving.

4:05:25

Okay.

4:05:26

Go ahead, kit.

4:05:27

Okay, folks.

4:05:27

So that means you have to be quiet now.

4:05:30

Thank you.

4:05:31

Go ahead, Kid.

4:05:33

Thank you.

4:05:34

Um although I heard the um the chief talk about the fact that I heard the chief talk about the fact that the federal government could use a warrant to gain access to this information, and then that could be reported, and we know.

4:05:50

I did not hear the chief acknowledge the fact that the federal government has the legal right to get information without our knowing.

4:05:58

They can do it through a FISA warrantless search, they can do it through a FISA warrant, and they would not be, they would be legally obliged not to tell us, so then we wouldn't know.

4:06:08

So I think that fact is worth acknowledging.

4:06:11

And then I really want to um ask all of you to um talk to each other.

4:06:17

I I think the city attorney and the the um city manager may be wanting to rethink whether this is a good idea to do this right away, and I want to praise my own council member.

4:06:29

That I want to praise the supplemental from the mayor and two other council members, and I really want to again the wonderful work that EAB has done.

4:06:37

Thank you.

4:06:37

Thank you, PA.

4:06:38

Thank you.

4:06:39

Okay, come on up.

4:06:46

Oh, and if you're getting a minute from someone, please try to organize that beforehand because it'll be easier.

4:06:50

Go ahead.

4:06:52

I guess I I'm going to say several things to you.

4:06:55

One is I think this is the most inopportune time to bring something like this up.

4:07:01

People are dying.

4:07:03

People are being locked up in prison.

4:07:06

There is a war going on, and in a sanctuary city that has a history in this country and in the world, to have this come up, I don't understand why it's so important right now.

4:07:17

I want to congratulate the members of PAB because they gave the most extraordinary explanation of what is going on.

4:07:26

In my time on the city council, I would have been so grateful to have people like that around me.

4:07:33

And our city attorney and our city manager would have said, whoa, I think it's time that we put the brakes on this and we do a little more investigating because too many questions have been raised.

4:07:47

I think another thing I want to say is this is an assault on the psyche of this city.

4:07:53

Thank you.

4:07:54

Thank you so much.

4:07:56

Thanks.

4:08:01

Someone is giving you a minute.

4:08:03

You're giving me another minute.

4:08:05

Yeah, this person here is giving you a minute.

4:08:06

Thank you to whoever.

4:08:08

I started to say that I started to say that that this feels to me like a real assault on the psyche of this city.

4:08:16

You know, it's not just the laws we put in, it's what we do to people's emotions.

4:08:22

And that's part of your job as politicians.

4:08:25

It's not just looking through all of the rules and all of the amendments and everything else that you do.

4:08:32

Um, I spoke with someone in the office of the assembly speaker, and they have put a hold on something with Flock.

4:08:40

So that's another one added up to all the other cities.

4:08:44

Um, I guess the last thing I want to say is that Berkeley gets itself in the news many, many times.

4:08:52

I just hope that we are not in the news because in this sanctuary city, you have not heeded what has been said to you and taken time to reconsider this.

4:09:04

And as I'm feeling it, not go with Flock for sure.

4:09:10

Thank you.

4:09:12

Come on up, Betsy.

4:09:15

Come on, Betsy.

4:09:18

Yeah.

4:09:19

Wow.

4:09:21

I think there's a minute for me, but I'm gonna try to be succinct.

4:09:25

My name is Betsy Morris.

4:09:26

I have the privilege of being the co-convener of East Bay Berkeley Grey Panthers.

4:09:32

Keith too.

4:09:33

I would I would like to uh say uh I asked counsel, or at least four of you, possibly five.

4:09:41

I guess we need five to uh reject the new contracts on Flock.

4:09:46

Just reject and and I ask Councilmember Bartlett and um O'Keefe to perhaps support that that that measure.

4:10:00

Uh thank you for all your good work.

4:10:02

I want to compliment the police accountability board.

4:10:06

My God, the the effort, the detail that thought they proved why so many of us voted to have that board, and the fact that they're carrying on with this detail on such short notice was incredible.

4:10:18

Um yeah, and they have produced a series of recommendations that I would very much like to be brought into the conversation around the contract.

4:10:29

Uh I was here last time I was here.

4:10:31

The city auditor spoke strongly about the uh uh consequences of doing sole source non-bid, non-competitive big contracts.

4:10:44

That overall those have been detrimental, certainly to the budget, and in this case to the spirit of so many people here in Berkeley.

4:10:53

So I um you lauded her tonight.

4:10:56

Let's listen to her.

4:10:57

We elect her along with you to provide that kind of information.

4:11:02

And so I know I want to thank the folks who are already supporting uh rejecting signing of contracts to tonight.

4:11:11

Finally, uh I thought the I have eight minutes.

4:11:14

I need to say that Elaine Bloom and Marsha Poole would have been much more fierce in their rejection of this.

4:11:22

Thank you tonight.

4:11:23

Thanks, Betsy.

4:11:24

So come up.

4:11:29

Okay, a minute from okay.

4:11:32

Okay, so I'm a former Berkeley High student, my brother is a current student.

4:11:36

It's nice to see you.

4:11:37

It's nice to see him, Miss O'Keefe.

4:11:40

Um today he was discouraged from coming to this meeting, actually, because he was told the vote already happened, that there was a no, that we've dropped the contract already, so he's not here tonight.

4:11:53

Um I don't think the vote already happened.

4:11:55

Has it already happened?

4:11:56

No.

4:11:56

No, the vote hasn't already happened.

4:11:58

So that's kind of embarrassing that he was told that he's your student.

4:12:01

Um other thing, Terry.

4:12:04

Uh you're my representative.

4:12:07

Sorry, you can't speak directly to council members, but you can speak to us generally.

4:12:10

Okay.

4:12:10

Go ahead.

4:12:10

Sorry, you're my representative.

4:12:12

Uh I like your suit, but honestly, I think you need to uh we have a rule around addressing the council as a whole.

4:12:18

So, council, I think you need to read reevaluate your stance on this.

4:12:24

You need to drop the contract entirely.

4:12:27

This is an opportunity to do so.

4:12:29

This is not an opportunity to renew it at all.

4:12:32

Everyone here is here because we do not we do not support this in any way.

4:12:37

You guys are representing us.

4:12:39

And honestly, that's all I'm here to say.

4:12:42

I I've used my minute, but fuck drones, fuck ice, fuck you guys.

4:12:46

Yeah.

4:12:47

Free Palestine.

4:12:53

I think I also have a minute.

4:12:58

Okay, I'm taking it from the person with a baseball cap.

4:13:01

Sure.

4:13:03

Fully integrated centralized surveillance system.

4:13:06

Does anyone not wearing blue in a badge think that's a good idea?

4:13:09

I don't think so.

4:13:11

The way the BPD has presented this, as the PAB pointed out, has been dishonest on a number of fronts.

4:13:17

First of all, leaving out of Hey, folks, please.

4:13:22

People in line.

4:13:25

Give some space.

4:13:27

Okay, everyone, space.

4:13:33

Okay.

4:13:35

Here we go.

4:13:36

Here we go.

4:13:37

Folks, folks, please back up.

4:13:44

The problem is we've got a comment here.

4:13:46

Thank you.

4:13:48

Okay.

4:13:48

I'm just asking that everyone give everyone give folks some space.

4:13:52

Everyone gives folks folks some space so we can hear from the public comment.

4:13:59

Okay.

4:14:00

I'm sorry.

4:14:01

Please continue your comment.

4:14:04

Uh does anyone mind if I get five seconds added?

4:14:07

Yeah.

4:14:07

Okay.

4:14:09

Yeah, the way the BPD has presented this has been dishonest on multiple fronts, in particular, leaving out that the Flock Nova software, which is investigative, not simple surveillance, uh, is being added as a one-year contract.

4:14:21

Um not highlighting that.

4:14:23

Also, as one of our council members pointed out, the initial MSA only allowed Flock to terminate easily, did not allow the city of Berkeley to do the same.

4:14:30

Not only is that asymmetrical, that seems deliberate to me.

4:14:33

I don't understand why that would be in the contract.

4:14:36

Um and it or it's just severe negligence.

4:14:39

Um this is reflective of a larger national struggle against so many companies that are surveilling us all the time.

4:14:46

Palantir is most notable, their AI system, which is being built to integrate all sorts of data.

4:14:52

But every single big tech company is implicated in this.

4:14:55

I also want to return to the justification of public safety.

4:15:00

First of all, if you are saying that drones are going to be used for firefighting, then propose drones for firefighting.

4:15:04

Do not pretend that drones being used for firefighting and policing are the same.

4:15:11

Second, the boundaries of what are going to be considered a crime are already expanding.

4:15:16

Trump just released a memorandum essentially announcing that he intends to criminalize left-wing organizing in protest under the guise of terrorism and violence.

4:15:24

Whether or not you consider yourself to be someone who is going to commit a crime, I suggest you re-evaluate that because your status may change very soon.

4:15:32

I do not accept public safety as a justification for more surveillance, and I do not accept the existence of some cameras or an existing contract as a justification for furthering the contract or for more cameras and more surveillance.

4:15:44

Thank you.

4:15:45

Thank you.

4:15:47

Come up, come up.

4:15:48

Come on, folks.

4:15:50

Gotta move.

4:15:51

Where's your another minute from someone?

4:15:53

Okay, yeah.

4:15:54

Go ahead.

4:15:58

Oh my gosh.

4:16:00

My name is Siok McKeel, and I'm a resident of South Side.

4:16:03

I want to be clear.

4:16:04

The supplemental for Mayor Ishii is already a compromise.

4:16:08

It increases mass surveillance.

4:16:10

It puts Berkeley residents at risk when there is no concrete evidence to show that surveillance technologies help reduce crime.

4:16:18

However, we do have evidence that these technologies have been used to track immigrants, people seeking abortions, and even ex-partners of police officers.

4:16:28

Still, the mayor supplemental rejects Flock, which is the bare minimum.

4:16:33

Flock already violated the contract with the city by working directly with ICE, but nothing was done about it.

4:16:39

How can you have any confidence that they'll follow the contract now?

4:16:43

A five 150,000 dollar penalty is pennies for a company worth 7.5 billion.

4:16:48

A slap on the wrist is an understatement.

4:16:51

Lastly, our city is in a structural deficit, and every dollar matters.

4:16:56

Using these technologies and especially working with a vendor as untrustworthy as Flock opens up the city to incredible legal liability.

4:17:04

Obviously, the worst impacts of the misuse in these technologies are being unjustly detained and our people being unjustly detained and brutalized.

4:17:12

But the financial risk is very real as well.

4:17:15

We have seen headline after headline about the dangers of this tech.

4:17:19

Our safety needs to be addressed through investing in community, not mass surveilling it with tools created by major Trump donors.

4:17:25

Please reject mass surveillance and reject Flock.

4:17:28

Also, I want to uh highlight anybody who's talking, please talk to my friends at Berkeley Cop Watch.

4:17:33

They are organizing people to be more aware of this stuff.

4:17:37

And yeah, just want to get tapped in because I know people are going this way, so go that way.

4:17:40

Thank you so much.

4:17:43

Come up, please.

4:17:45

As soon as the person's finished, can you please come up?

4:17:47

Do you have public comment?

4:17:52

Hi, my name's Ama, and I'm a student at Berkeley High.

4:17:55

And on a daily basis, I think about ICE coming to my school.

4:17:59

I think about ICE kidnapping my friends and family.

4:18:02

I think about the innocent lives, some younger than me who have been shot, beaten, and disappeared by IC.

4:18:08

I open my phone and I see a woman and her daughter SFO in tears being kidnapped.

4:18:14

That was Sunday.

4:18:16

As a student who is terrified by the daily fascism that has become a normal part of my growing up, I am begging you to use the power that you have to avoid a contract with Flock, which works with ICE.

4:18:28

Flock as a tool of ICE stands against everything this council and the city promises its constituents.

4:18:35

So please do your job and protect us to your fullest power.

4:18:38

If you choose to support that which supports ICE, this council will go down as standing on the wrong side of history.

4:18:46

Thank you.

4:18:48

Thank you.

4:18:57

Fluck has a poor record of digital security and responses to security.

4:19:02

The real-time aggregation of the data is extremely difficult to not violate our privacy right.

4:19:08

And the safeguards mentioned about not connecting to third parties is actually difficult in practice.

4:19:13

Just like the best way to protect our data is to you know have it expire and not keep it.

4:19:18

The best way to not have these kind of tools centered to massive violence is not heaven in the first place.

4:19:33

Thank you.

4:19:39

Hi.

4:19:40

My name is Lisa Hoffman.

4:19:41

I'm one of the co-executive directors at East Space Sanctuary Covenant, an immigrant serving organization based in Berkeley.

4:19:48

And we're turning uh 44 years old today.

4:19:52

It's our 44th anniversary.

4:19:55

I'm representing here the Berkeley Immigration Collaborative, which is a group of five Berkeley-based organizations who have over 40 years of experience serving immigrants.

4:20:03

I want to share with you that yesterday I spent the day on the phone with countless other organizations trying to find the woman and her U.S.

4:20:12

citizen daughter who were detained at SFO and get them legal help.

4:20:16

This is what we do day in and day out.

4:20:20

This is my colleague Alina, who's one of our attorneys.

4:20:24

We work tirelessly to help people who are being terrorized and sometimes disappeared.

4:20:31

This afternoon, we found out that they were both deported to Guatemala.

4:20:37

The last time we were here, this council unanimously voted to approve the sanctuary ordinance, codifying Berkeley's commitment to protecting immigrants and declaring that cooperating with the federal deportation machine is against our moral obligation as the first sanctuary city.

4:20:59

Continuing to spend Berkeley's taxpayer dollars on a company whose technology is being used across the country to deport our neighbors is the antithesis of sanctuary.

4:21:14

We have met with most of you individually, have participated in community listening sessions, and have shared our communities' concerns and questions with you.

4:21:24

We have strived to listen to your perspectives while also not backing down on our core message.

4:21:31

Flock is a company whose investors are deeply tied to Trump's deportation machine, and as a result, has broken contracts and lied repeatedly.

4:21:42

Thank you.

4:21:43

Is that already two minutes?

4:21:44

Yeah, that was two minutes.

4:21:45

Can I have a okay?

4:21:47

You've got a minute here.

4:21:48

Go ahead.

4:21:51

As a result, has broken contracts and lied repeatedly about sharing data with the federal government.

4:21:57

This is not about creating an airtight contract that will somehow miraculously withstand the pressure of a well-funded federal machine intent on ripping apart immigrant families and sending them into danger.

4:22:13

I want to say to you very clearly, this is a moral decision in a unique political moment of state-sponsored terror and government overreach.

4:22:26

We're grateful to Mayor Ishii, Vice Mayor Lunaparo, and Councilmember Tregu for proposing a supplemental which refuses to contract with Flock.

4:22:36

We urge you all to follow the excellent recommendations that were made by the PAB.

4:22:42

And we urge all of you to join us in taking a stand to protect our community.

4:22:49

Thank you.

4:22:55

Hi, good evening.

4:22:56

My name's Abigail Les Bronz.

4:22:59

I am a Berkeley native and resident, and this is my husband and daughter, also District 5.

4:23:05

My father at his 91 years had to leave early, district six.

4:23:24

Recently, I want to share with you a story of my client who recently literally had her movements tracked using ALPR cameras.

4:23:32

After an accident, she was pulled over to and exchanged information with the other driver, and then she left.

4:23:38

The other driver called in the accident as a hit and run.

4:23:41

The investigating officer had our client's address, and he went to her house, but she wasn't home.

4:23:49

So what did he do?

4:23:50

He turned to Flock.

4:23:51

And using Flock's A L PR cameras.

4:23:55

Were they giving you their minutes?

4:23:57

Yeah, sorry.

4:23:57

Yeah, still.

4:23:59

But from both of you.

4:24:01

One first, and then if I need another, I'll okay.

4:24:03

Got it.

4:24:04

So you have another minute.

4:24:06

Go ahead.

4:24:07

So using the cameras and their warrantless and continuous monitoring of every community member's movements, the officers was instantly able to create a detailed record of her location history and pinpoint down to a 20-minute window where she would be driving both to and from work.

4:24:24

Does anybody want that for themselves?

4:24:29

The next day he positioned himself where he and when he knew she was gonna be, and detained her.

4:24:35

And this is just one example of how this type of surveillance impinges on all of our constitutional rights by enabling warrantless large-scale data collection that violates privacy.

4:24:47

Yours, mine, everybody's.

4:24:50

Moreover, this constant surveillance also has been shown to chill free speech and suppress free association.

4:24:56

Is this the type of Berkeley that we want to live in?

4:25:00

Is this representative of who we are and how we treat the most vulnerable among us?

4:25:08

And those who are willing to speak truth to power.

4:25:10

I don't think so.

4:25:11

Thank you.

4:25:12

Thank you.

4:25:17

Okay.

4:25:18

So when you come up, if you can tell me your if if someone's giving you minutes, so this is for everyone.

4:25:25

When you come up, please let me know if someone's giving you minutes so that I can keep track of that, and then we'll give you the right time when we won't interrupt your comment.

4:25:32

So ahead.

4:25:33

Thank you so much.

4:25:34

Um I have a minute.

4:25:36

Um Good evening.

4:25:37

My name is Nigga Cervantes with the Multicultural Institute.

4:25:41

Berkeley's January 2025 uh resolution reaffirming Berkeley as a sanctuary city, authored by Councilmember Blackaby, says Sanctuary is fundamentally about public safety.

4:25:55

The need for everyone in the community to feel safe.

4:25:58

When all community members documented or undocumented are able to attend school and after school programs, hospitals and health centers, and places of worship without the threat of deportation.

4:26:11

We are promoting a more educated, healthy, and thriving community.

4:26:16

Sanctuary policies strengthen all of our lives.

4:26:20

This is a Berkeley we are fighting for.

4:26:23

One where our families, friends, and neighbors feel safe without fear that our location is being tracked or shared with the federal government by Flocks Technology.

4:26:33

We at the Multicultural Institute work directly with day laborers in Berkeley who do not feel safe looking for work while Flock cameras are watching them.

4:26:43

Safety for some at the expense of our most vulnerable is not true safety.

4:26:50

We are also proud to train a dedicated group of allies and community patrollers who take daily shifts to look out for ICE activity.

4:26:59

We are deeply concerned that the current drone use policy will result in surveillance surveillance of mass response to an ICE raid, which could put our community patrollers at risk of federal prosecution and prevent them from conducting essential legal observation.

4:27:17

To actually promote public safety, the city can consider investing in violence prevention programs and mental health solutions actually prevent crime, not just record it.

4:27:28

We understand and agree with the need of safety and firmly believe that contracting will flock will not contribute to public safety.

4:27:35

And instead, we'll leave our communities in fear.

4:27:38

Thank you.

4:27:43

She's paying me one minute.

4:27:46

Yeah.

4:27:47

Yeah, you haven't given your minute yet.

4:27:48

So two minutes.

4:27:51

Thank you.

4:27:52

Hi, Council.

4:27:53

Nice to see you all.

4:27:54

I've met most of you, worked with some of you.

4:27:56

My name is Rebecca Gurney.

4:27:57

I work for e-Space Incredi Covenant.

4:27:59

Um, continuing the Berkeley Immigration Collaborative comment that effective policing involves building community trust through transparency and accountability.

4:28:08

In various presentations by BPD, not once has there been an honest discussion of the completely unilateral access that Flock has had to our ALPR cameras through the contract section 5.3, meaning that we have no idea how many times Berkeley data Berkeley's data has been shared with federal agencies.

4:28:27

Given Flock's investors' financial stake in the deportation machine, it should be expected that Flock will quickly fold to any pressure from the Trump administration to share its data at great cost to our communities.

4:28:40

This month alone, police departments in Mountain View, Ventura County, and last week Modesto have explicitly accused Flock of manipulating settings and sharing data with imminent immigration agencies without the consent or knowledge of the department.

4:28:54

In Modesto, this breach was only discovered through a public records request.

4:28:58

If the city of Berkeley believes that Flock is trustworthy, why are we only discovering these violations through public records requests?

4:29:04

Flock knew about these harms and only provided changes to departments that explicitly accuse them of misconduct.

4:29:12

Flock causes harm first and makes limited changes to preserve their contracts.

4:29:17

They do not care about following sanctuary laws or the harm that this technology is causing.

4:29:22

Over 50 jurisdictions, a list that is growing every week, have decided that the risks of contracting with Flock outweigh any purported safety benefits.

4:29:31

What calculus is Berkeley making that is somehow different from all of these other jurisdictions and city attorneys and police departments who are saying that this technology is not worth the risk.

4:29:42

If you really care about public safety and effective policing, it starts with accountability.

4:29:48

We urge you to implement the suggestions of the police accountability board, many of which are included in Mayor Ishi supplemental.

4:29:54

Thank you.

4:30:00

Good evening.

4:30:01

My name is Rachel Cafele.

4:30:03

I'm from OASIS Legal Services.

4:30:04

We represent queer and trans asylum seekers from our office in Berkeley.

4:30:08

I'm here to give you an example of the type of harm we are talking about.

4:30:13

We have a trans client who applied for asylum over ten years ago.

4:30:17

She was pulled over while driving.

4:30:19

The officers could not verify her California driver's license, so she was turned over to ICE, who arrested her and put her in detention, despite the fact that she had been waiting over ten years for a chance to be heard.

4:30:31

She was held in a men's detention center until our attorneys were able to fight for her release.

4:30:35

There are thousands more stories of people in California and around the country who are being detained and arrested by ICE, separated from their families, loved ones, and community, and placed in dangerous and harmful detention centers.

4:30:47

Please take a moment to consider how you would feel if this was your family member or if your actions tonight were responsible for the prolonged detention or deportation of a BUSD family.

4:30:58

That is the harm that Flox cameras are aiding and the harm you will present if you have your contact tonight.

4:31:09

Two minutes.

4:31:11

Good evening, Council members.

4:31:13

Um Abigail Eskey Res with Social Justice Collaborative rounding out BIC's comment.

4:31:17

And this is Lily, an attorney with SJC, who's a resident of District 6.

4:31:22

At this point, we hope it's unmistakably clear that this community does not want Flock.

4:31:27

As you have seen, Berkeley residents are strongly opposed to this contract.

4:31:31

So we have to ask for those of you move voting to move forward with Flock.

4:31:34

Who do you represent?

4:31:36

Because Berkeley has told you no.

4:31:39

We are not here to negotiate a stronger contract, and we're not asking for better assurances.

4:31:43

We're asking you to stand in solidarity with the communities you pledge to protect when you pass the sanctuary ordinance.

4:31:50

That ordinance was a promise, and the thing about promises is that they're tested.

4:31:54

It's easy to say I stand with immigrants.

4:31:57

Your actions must also reflect that.

4:32:00

Our teams work day in and day out to serve communities that are targeted by this administration.

4:32:04

SJC provides removal defense for immigrants who would otherwise not have access to legal aid.

4:32:09

And we have fought to protect individuals who have been kidnapped from their homes, from their cars, and from ice check-ins.

4:32:15

Some days our job feels impossible.

4:32:18

The last time we were here, I asked you to help make the job of the federal administration and a federal immigration enforcement harder.

4:32:26

This contract does not do that.

4:32:29

When, and not if Flock betrays your trust, this council will be responsible for violations and harm that follows.

4:32:36

Is a contract with Flock worth losing the trust your constituents have placed with you?

4:32:40

This is a moral question.

4:32:42

We urge you to stand with us in this fight rather than support a company whose goals and profits are deeply connected to Trump and his administration.

4:32:49

The only way Berkeley can maintain its sanctuary values is by refusing to contract with Flock.

4:32:58

Thank you.

4:32:59

George, come on up.

4:33:03

Yes, I have one minute from Grace, and if possible, one from Serena.

4:33:09

Okay, thank you.

4:33:10

Uh that's all.

4:33:13

Hi, uh my name's George Lipman of the Peace and Justice Commission.

4:33:17

This is the city.

4:33:18

You can sit down if you want to.

4:33:19

Go ahead.

4:33:20

Yeah.

4:33:20

Yeah, thank you.

4:33:21

This is the city's Social Justice Com advisory commission.

4:33:24

I'm speaking for the chair, Pastor Dwayne Phillips, on behalf of the Commission.

4:33:29

On March 9th, this commission voted by 11 to 1 with two abstentions to oppose any contracts with Flock safety.

4:33:37

We pass this recommendation.

4:33:39

Adopt a policy approving the following action with regard to safeguards for Berkeley surveillance derived images and footage.

4:33:47

Cancel Berkeley's Flock safety contracts for public surveillance images and video footage due to Flock's repeated sharing of such data with the immigration authorities and the inherent exposure of cloud-based storage to access by the Trump administration.

4:34:06

Now I want to step back a second and your people say, well, where's the smoking gun?

4:34:10

Well, how is Flock involved in any of this?

4:34:13

Well, I just want to mention that two years ago, Brandon Upchurch, an African American civilian, was pulled over by the Toledo Ohio police due to a mistake by Flock Safety Software.

4:34:26

The pullover resulted in the officer setting his dog upon Mr.

4:34:30

Brandon Upchurch, seriously mauling him.

4:34:33

Upchurch was completely innocent, but the officer believed his faulty software over the man's protests.

4:34:42

Now to back to my text.

4:34:48

One of the important messages from the Commission to the Council is about the precautionary principle, which I hope you're all familiar with.

4:34:55

Council adopted it 20 years ago.

4:35:00

The principle requires that decisions rely upon science, particularly social science, and not solely on politics.

4:35:05

Most important, the burden of proof must be put on those proposing a new program rather than on those who are opposed.

4:35:13

It is time to apply the precautionary principle also to the impact on social justice.

4:35:19

Now I want to briefly touch on uh oh I got just less than uh five issues that none of the proposals that support a flock relationship speak to.

4:35:28

No contract language will protect our data from judicial warrants or FISA warrants.

4:35:33

Flock is already too.

4:35:35

Flock has already broken its word to Berkeley, notably by lying that they do not work with ICE while maintaining a pilot program with that agency.

4:35:43

Um former PAB member uh Kitty Calvita's letter contains shocking information about Flocks letter or letter to you.

4:35:53

She demonstrates that Flock's biggest investor, uh Mr.

4:35:56

Andrewson is a MAGA booster who considers DEI and immigration to be two forms of discrimination.

4:36:02

Um TechCrunch has shown that Flock corruptly hired a local mayor and city council members in Moreno Valley, California to promote its business and get contracts signed.

4:36:11

Thanks, George.

4:36:12

Thanks, George is preparing to dive into.

4:36:16

Thank you.

4:36:18

Kit, you've got Julie is getting the but you've already spoken, so you can't come back again.

4:36:26

Not like that.

4:36:27

You've already spoken.

4:36:28

I'm sorry.

4:36:30

You can speak, certainly.

4:36:31

Yeah, please go ahead.

4:36:33

How about reading that?

4:36:34

Yeah, uh, which one?

4:36:36

This one.

4:36:37

For far or less.

4:36:39

Well, I want to say what I want to say.

4:36:41

Thank you so much.

4:36:43

Mayor and Igor and Cecilia.

4:36:46

And I just think Berkeley and Flock are absolutely so counter counter opposite camps, opposite camps.

4:36:58

Isn't there a California law AB 54 that says data cannot be exchanged in data collection with other jurisdictions outside the state of California?

4:37:14

I think so.

4:37:16

I just read something from the the new share, the new police chief of Richmond, who said Flock has not been honest at all.

4:37:29

And we are going to absolutely review and set aside any contracts with Flock.

4:37:37

Well, I wish I could be more articulate.

4:37:40

I was sort of pulled in.

4:37:42

We are great.

4:37:43

Thank you.

4:37:44

Thanks for your comment.

4:37:49

Kit, it's not written.

4:37:50

You need to write that if that's the rule.

4:37:59

Hi everyone.

4:38:00

Um I'm sharing a testimony today from someone who didn't feel safe enough to be here.

4:38:05

Uh my name is Johnny Silva.

4:38:07

I am from Honduras, and I have lived in the U.S.

4:38:09

with my wife and our two children for 27 years.

4:38:12

In 1999, I became beneficiary of a temporary status called TPS, and I'm current member of the National TPS Alliance.

4:38:21

I work for a company as a driver for over 27 years.

4:38:24

My wife and I have contributed to the economy of this country by working and paying our taxes.

4:38:29

For those of us with TPS, it would be devastating to lose the status that allows us to work legally and to renew our driver's license.

4:38:36

Unfortunately, in the current political situation, some people who have TPS, people who have followed all the rules and have given the U.S.

4:38:44

government all of our information are being racially profiled and deported.

4:38:47

The mass deportations taking place across the country instill a lot of fear into our families.

4:38:54

Do not approve this contract.

4:38:55

Vote no on Flock.

4:38:58

Thank you.

4:39:05

Ben Franklin said those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

4:39:15

As we give our police more and more control over our lives, we should remember the quote at the end of the movie, Nuremberg, and I'll paraphrase.

4:39:23

The only clue to what police can do is what police have done.

4:39:27

So stop and think about that.

4:39:28

The police brutality we've seen over the last decade.

4:39:31

Think about the intrusion the NSA, CIA, and ICE have done.

4:39:36

Do we really want to give them more surveillance control over our lives?

4:39:40

And I'll quote Orwell.

4:39:42

War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.

4:39:46

I guess we can now add surveillance as safety.

4:39:49

As we give our police more and more control over our lives, we really want that.

4:39:54

And I'd like to think about what our council is.

4:39:57

Are we going to be the MAGA council?

4:40:00

Are we going to be the MAGA?

4:40:01

Which council members are gonna be the MAGA council members who are gonna vote for more surveillance that are gonna vote for deal in the world.

4:40:07

Thanks for your comment.

4:40:08

Thanks.

4:40:13

Sorry, you're saying okay, go ahead.

4:40:15

You've got two minutes.

4:40:16

Hey, I'm Stu Ralston, Dad from down the street.

4:40:19

Uh just wanted to say quick thanks for the smooth streets and some great public schools, really wonderful uh Councilmember Terry, who I will not uh address directly.

4:40:26

Thanks for coming to our block party.

4:40:27

Great to see you again.

4:40:29

Okay, so the proposal for Flock is I understand to keep us safe.

4:40:32

Uh the key question in that is well, who's us?

4:40:35

Right?

4:40:36

And the truth is, what we've learned is we keep us safe.

4:40:39

We keep us safe.

4:40:41

All right.

4:40:42

Uh I lived here in the East Bay for 14 years, and I'm proudly from Minneapolis, Minnesota.

4:40:48

In January, I went back because I saw my community being torn apart by a ruthless federal onslaught.

4:40:53

What I saw there has direct impact on the legitimate concerns that are being raised here tonight.

4:40:59

We've all seen the footage, the murders, kidnaps, trauma, and economy cratering.

4:41:04

And these are troubling times, empowered by surveillance technology and lawless law enforcement.

4:41:10

Even the police, the police chiefs of the 10 metro areas said that the federal enforcement was not making uh the citizens and the people safer, was making even the police less safe.

4:41:21

What we saw less of in the news, but what we what held the city together was the community.

4:41:25

The neighbors packing deliveries and groceries for their neighbors, the moms delivering breast milk because other mothers were detained and kept away from their children, the dads taking terrified neighbors' kids to schools.

4:41:36

And I share these stories because it was these neighbors like everyone here who kept the community safe.

4:41:42

We keep us safe.

4:41:44

These quiet heroes were called domestic terrorists and agitators suddenly because they supported their neighbors, they were no longer the us that law enforcement was there to protect.

4:41:55

The idea that Berkeley would be able to keep uh license plate data, video recordings, audio recordings from Flock cameras safe from this federal government.

4:42:05

Pretty laughable, sorry, respectfully.

4:42:07

And the supremacy clause, of course, gives the federal government rights to anything deemed related to immigration enforcement, and that's when they follow the Constitution.

4:42:15

Flock won't keep us safe.

4:42:16

We keep us safe.

4:42:17

Thank you.

4:42:25

Hello, I'm Alison.

4:42:26

I live in District 4.

4:42:27

And I just want to say not only do I oppose Berkeley's partnership with Flock, but any expansion of mass surveillance.

4:42:34

Um mass surveillance plays right into the aims of the Trump administration.

4:42:38

It also continues the legacy of Coin Intel Pro, it continues the legacy of the Patriot Act.

4:42:43

Um, and one thing that hasn't been discussed tonight is that even when it's been cited, some of the victories that Flock has caused around like catching um and solving crimes.

4:42:52

What about prevention of crime?

4:42:54

Surveillance does not keep us safer.

4:42:56

We need housing, we need funding, we need we need food, we need to be, and then not only so when Flock, not if, but when Flock, you know, is used by the government to um breach breach our privacy, the amount of money and time and energy going into addressing that, both as far as public trust, will be taken away from preventing investing in the services that actually prevent crime and actually promote safety.

4:43:22

I don't care about one actually number one, but it's like safety for who.

4:43:26

Thank you.

4:43:27

Thank you.

4:43:33

Hi, I'm David Allen.

4:43:35

I grew up here and I'm still here.

4:43:37

Let's be very clear.

4:43:38

We're talking tonight about contracting out an unprecedented expansion of mass surveillance to a corporation that has acted in bad faith over and over again.

4:43:47

Many of you seem to think that we can that that can be okay as long as we try to predict the problems and write contracts and usage policies against them.

4:43:55

That idea is doomed to fail.

4:43:58

Flock safety as a private corporation is vulnerable to federal subpoenas in a way that we, a local municipality, a sanctuary city are not.

4:44:12

Carve out language to allow them to do that.

4:44:15

Furthermore, as the Pub points out, the proposal limits are insufficient.

4:44:19

Flock safety and the BPD will find ways to stretch and break the limits we try to place on them.

4:44:24

This also creates a centralized target for malicious actors from a vendor with many documented security issues.

4:44:30

Thank you.

4:44:32

Thank you.

4:44:34

Hi, I have three friends who've seeded me time.

4:44:37

One, two, three.

4:44:39

So I believe four minutes if I use it.

4:44:42

Um my name's Leah.

4:44:43

I'm a Berkeley resident of District Three, a parent of three uh Berkeley students or grads, a pastor of a church called Haven Berkeley Faith Community.

4:44:52

And um, I had the opportunity, like Stuart spoke of to visit Minneapolis in January.

4:45:00

I was one of about 20 faith leaders from the Bay Area that joined about 700 faith leaders across the country to meet up with the faith community in Minneapolis, learn from their experiences, participate in the large day of action and general strike that took place at the end of January.

4:45:14

And I witnessed firsthand the chilling way that the surveillance technology was being weaponized, not only to terrorize immigrants and people of color, which it did, but also whole swaths of the community who were standing up to protect their neighbors, people like Renee Good, people like Alex Predy.

4:45:31

I met people who had had to stop delivering groceries to their neighbors who were trapped inside their homes because they knew that law enforcement was using tools like these to follow them and kidnap the people that they were going to try to help.

4:45:45

I saw something else, though, that uh besides the terror of an American occupation when I was there that was truly inspiring because in Minneapolis, thousands of people have been taken to the streets to push back on this authoritarianism.

4:45:59

And one of the ways they've been doing this is through singing.

4:46:03

And the movement of show watch your courage, leave flock, leave flock behind.

4:46:30

It's okay to change your mind, and you can join us.

4:46:37

Join us here any time.

4:46:39

It's okay, it's okay, it's okay to change your mind, show us your current, leave flock, leave flock behind.

4:46:52

It's okay to change your mind, and you can join us.

4:46:58

Join us here anytime.

4:47:00

It's okay.

4:47:03

It's over.

4:47:05

Change your mind, show what's the courage.

4:47:09

Leave flock behind.

4:47:13

It's okay to change your mind, and you can join us.

4:47:20

Join us here anytime and don't play it so change your mind, show off your courage.

4:47:31

Leave flock behind.

4:47:40

Join us.

4:47:41

Join us here.

4:47:43

One more time, one more time.

4:47:45

It's okay to change your mind.

4:47:50

So lost your courage.

4:47:52

Leave flock behind.

4:47:56

It's okay to change your mind.

4:48:00

And you can join us.

4:48:02

Join us here anytime.

4:48:04

And you can join.

4:48:06

And you can join us.

4:48:08

Join us here.

4:48:12

Thank you, friends.

4:48:14

I hope you will.

4:48:19

Thank you.

4:48:21

Thank you for the lovely song.

4:48:23

Okay.

4:48:25

Thank you.

4:48:26

Good evening, Council.

4:48:28

I'm reading testimony on behalf of an immigrant community member.

4:48:32

This is what she wrote.

4:48:33

My name is Glaudia, originally from Honduras.

4:48:36

I've lived in the U.S.

4:48:37

for 27 years with temporary protected status.

4:48:40

I have two sons, one 29 and the other 21.

4:48:43

I work as a caregiver for seniors and children with disabilities.

4:48:47

Although my job is hard, I love doing what I do.

4:48:49

We are hardworking people and don't rely on government assistance.

4:48:52

Rather, we contribute economically to this country's economy and are active members of the community.

4:48:57

My family and I are desperately afraid.

4:49:01

We have been active in the TPS campaign for permanent residency in this political environment.

4:49:12

We have a mixed status family and are worried that any one of us could be detained at any time for no reason and sent back to a country where we have nothing and would face extortion or persecution.

4:49:23

For this reason, I ask that the Berkeley City Council reject the contract with Flock and stand with immigrant communities.

4:49:29

Thank you.

4:49:37

One minute.

4:49:39

You're giving your minute?

4:49:41

Or she's giving it away.

4:49:42

I have one minute for a few.

4:49:42

Okay, you're giving your minute.

4:49:44

Thank you.

4:49:45

Hi, my name is Sam.

4:49:46

I'm a resident of District 8.

4:49:48

Um the concept of data fatalism came up a few times at Mayor Ishe's Town Hall last week in South Berkeley, once by a fellow attendee at our table session and again by Chief Lewis who answering questions.

4:50:00

Um data fatalism is the idea that we already have so much of our lives online and digitally accessible.

4:50:06

What's the worry about one more thing?

4:50:08

I understand that privacy is uh exists on the spectrum, and everyone has different tolerances.

4:50:13

Meta knowing your political leanings or Amazon understanding your buying habits may be worth it if those services provide enough relative value to you.

4:50:21

But using these services is a personal choice that you can regulate and opt in or out of.

4:50:26

With an artificial intelligence-powered surveillance network, compliance is automatic, and there is no choice or opt-out.

4:50:33

Our freedom and liberty to exist as private citizens in a public space to remain free from searches and seizures and to freely voice views or protest are greatly compromised when our personal lives and data are saved, indexed, and used to power AI law enforcement for profit and against our will.

4:50:55

Please say no to this flock contract.

4:50:57

Resist the slide into fascism, invest in addressing the root causes of crime.

4:51:02

Invest in the people and communities of Berkeley in the East Bay.

4:51:06

Thank you.

4:51:07

Thank you.

4:51:12

Come on up.

4:51:16

Hi.

4:51:19

So I just wanted to read some quotes verbatim from uh press releases from cities across California.

4:51:25

So from Ventura.

4:51:26

Although VPD's settings were set to California only access, a vendor-enabled nationwide query function allowed out-of-state agencies to query Ventura's data.

4:51:34

These queries were completed without the department's knowledge or authorization.

4:51:38

For Mountain View, federal law enforcement agencies accessed Mountain View's Flock Safety L ALPR system by a nationwide search setting that was turned on by Flock Safety.

4:51:47

The setting was enabled without MVPD's permission or knowledge.

4:51:51

In Oxnard, even though OPD's Flock Safety Security settings had been set to California only access, a vendor-enabled nationwide query allowed agencies from outside California, which also included federal agencies to query OPD's data without OPD's knowledge or approval.

4:52:06

These are all from within the last three months.

4:52:08

So this has happened in Santa Cruz, Capitola, Richmond, El Salito, many other cities across California.

4:52:13

Flock is not trustworthy.

4:52:15

Please cancel this.

4:52:16

Thank you.

4:52:21

Hi, Council.

4:52:22

I'm a community member in District 3.

4:52:25

I do community organizing in my neighborhood, and I just want to say that I have never once heard any person that I've um interacted with in the neighborhood in the community garden, organizing against surveillance, that they want to feel safer by having cameras in the neighborhood.

4:52:41

I feel the safest when I know who my neighbors are, when we know we are looking out for each other, when we know we can feed each other, we can support each other.

4:52:49

Cameras have never done any of that.

4:52:51

And I also resent the uh victims of crime section from the police board as someone who is a victim of a violent crime.

4:52:58

A camera didn't intervene, a community member did.

4:53:01

Um so I don't feel that these surveillance like measures will increase anybody's safety.

4:53:07

Um I really urge the council to cancel this contract and to go further than that and to just decrease surveillance across the city of Berkeley to increase safety for community members because we look out for each other.

4:53:18

Thank you.

4:53:19

Thank you.

4:53:22

Sorry, minute from I've got two minutes over there if you raise your raise your hands.

4:53:27

Yeah.

4:53:28

Where's your second one?

4:53:29

Oh, okay.

4:53:30

Thank you.

4:53:34

Good evening, Mayor and members of the city council.

4:53:36

My name is Sally Alpert.

4:53:37

I am chair of the Berkeley Rent Stabilization Board, speaking in my own individual capacity tonight.

4:53:42

There is disagreement in the community about surveillance, whether the privacy and state oppression risks is worth or what the security is purported to bring.

4:53:50

I and many many others believe it is not.

4:53:53

And I'm happy another time with any of you to have the conversation about why I, as the child of lesbian unionist Jewish mothers, oppose mass surveillance.

4:54:01

But even if we did all agree that surveillance was the solution, that these technologies were the way to make us safe, Flock would not be an acceptable partner for the city of Berkeley.

4:54:11

The council unanimously passed the Sanctuary City contracting ordinance and the Sanctuary City Ordinance.

4:54:17

Flock violated that this summer when it came out that they contracted with ICE.

4:54:22

It is easy to support these values in concept.

4:54:25

It does not demonstrate courage to do so.

4:54:28

The real test of your character comes when it is no longer a theoretical question, but a question of competing priorities.

4:54:35

Councilmember Blackaby, you were the author of at least one of those items, and it will be your vote tonight that determines the outcome here.

4:54:41

Thank you to the mayor, to Councilmembers Linapara, Tregum, and Bartlett for your supplementals.

4:55:00

Now, to the public, this council has repeatedly failed to uphold the values that Berkeley holds dear of sanctuary justice and accountability.

4:55:08

I, along with a number of other leaders, are working on drafting a ballot measure that would undo a number of the changes that this council has brought.

4:55:15

And I will be in the back of the room with a QR code that you can scan if you're interested in getting involved.

4:55:19

So find me if you'd like to join in our effort to fix the harm that this council has caused.

4:55:24

Thank you very much.

4:55:26

Thank you.

4:55:32

Hi, my name is Moni.

4:55:34

I'm from District One.

4:55:36

Um I did not compare become prepared to the speech.

4:55:39

Um, but I have to say something about this.

4:55:43

Um it's shocking.

4:55:45

Um, that in a city with such an educated populace, um, a progressive populace, a sanctuary city, the home of free speech, and the neighbor of the Black Panthers.

4:55:58

Uh that would we would even consider um a contract with a surveillance company.

4:56:06

Um, it makes me wonder if anyone on the city council has read 1984.

4:56:11

Um this proposal has widespread opposition, so um uh it's I finding a little bit mind boggling why we're even presented with this and why we're wasting the energy, resources, um, intelligence, talent that this community can take has to even consent.

4:56:34

Thank you.

4:56:35

I think that's a good thing.

4:56:39

Thank you.

4:56:39

Thanks.

4:56:44

Okay, I'll just finish that comment.

4:56:45

If Mountain View, Santa Clara, and Santa Cruz can do the right thing, Berkeley can too.

4:56:50

Um, we can we can still save our soul.

4:56:53

So please.

4:56:56

Please do that.

4:56:57

You can always change your mind.

4:56:59

Thank you.

4:57:02

Sorry, woman with the choker.

4:57:04

Who were you pointing to that was giving the minute?

4:57:06

Oh, you were giving.

4:57:07

Okay, thank you.

4:57:12

Ready?

4:57:12

Good?

4:57:13

Yeah.

4:57:13

Hello.

4:57:14

Uh I am Roberto, I'm a resident of Berkeley.

4:57:16

Berkeley is my home.

4:57:18

Um I have lately the displeasure of writing software.

4:57:24

Um, so I feel very strongly about um how time has progressed, all the ample evidence of what technology has done to our lives.

4:57:34

I think a lot of us can agree here at personal anecdotes that your data has been uploaded, replicated, shared many times over, arbitrary information.

4:57:45

Um, you know what what you actually like to buy.

4:57:48

You're at a crossroads here where it's no longer gonna be arbitrary.

4:57:52

It's going to be video footage, it's going to be images.

4:57:56

We've seen that buzzwords like SOC2 compliance, GDPR, N-10 encryption, TOS.

4:58:04

Has any of that meaning tamped down on tech companies?

4:58:10

I don't feel like it.

4:58:12

Uh thank you.

4:58:13

Okay, that's all I got.

4:58:20

Hi, my name is Kelsey.

4:58:22

I live in District 1.

4:58:23

Um, I just wanted to come up here and remind you all that you're public servants, you work for us.

4:58:28

The police are public servants also, they work for us.

4:58:31

And Berkeley has showed up here and all over the city to say we don't want any part of this.

4:58:37

So it's ridiculous that we all have to stay here till 1 a.m.

4:58:40

begging you not to pass this when we have proven and said it over and over again that we do not want it.

4:58:47

Flock is aggressively incompetent, and they've collaborated with fascists openly and have no accountability.

4:58:54

And there's endless examples and data about this that you have been given.

4:58:59

So pushing this vote through just shows that you don't care about black, brown, or any marginalized commun um community members, and you should absolutely be ashamed if you push any part of this through.

4:59:10

Um, and it will absolutely come back to haunt you because this whole country is sliding into technofascism.

4:59:16

Thank you.

4:59:18

Thank you.

4:59:24

I am receiving one minute from my friend right here.

4:59:28

Hi, everybody.

4:59:29

My name is Micah.

4:59:31

I live in District 6.

4:59:33

And I am a therapist and social worker who works with um immigrant communities with a lot of Latina communities, namely kids.

4:59:43

Um, and as you already know, stress has been uh an all-time high.

4:59:48

One kid that I worked with, that I work with was recently admitted to a hospital because of suicidality.

4:59:56

And largely it was due to immigration stress.

5:00:00

Every time his single mom went to work, he worried that that day would be the last day that he ever see his mom.

5:00:07

And that was before the flock expansion that y'all are thinking about.

5:00:12

So if you pass the flock contract, and if the kids that and if the kids learn that y'all, the city put everyone in danger like that, their mental health will plummet even lower than it is.

5:00:25

Mass flock surveillance will make our families stress every time they just need to step outside the door.

5:00:32

The kid I mentioned has just barely been able to pull himself up from the abyss.

5:00:37

And passing this would risk pushing pushing him and many others into the abyss past the point of no return.

5:00:46

So this decision would cause real mental health, mental, and physical harm to our communities.

5:00:53

If you really care about serving Berkeley residents, vulnerable Berkeley residents, like y'all say you are.

5:01:00

I would love to see y'all cancel this contract.

5:01:03

Thank you.

5:01:03

Thank you.

5:01:10

You're getting a minute from someone.

5:01:11

Oh no, just one minute.

5:01:12

Just one minute.

5:01:13

Okay.

5:01:13

Go ahead.

5:01:14

Hello, I'm a resident of District 3.

5:01:16

First, I want to applaud the audience for their patience earlier to sit through BPDs and some council members downplaying and straight up dishonesty of the harms flock does, has done, and continues to do.

5:01:26

Thank you, PPAB.

5:01:28

Your research voices the reality that flock is dangerous to our safety.

5:01:30

If the original report amid so many harmful treats of surveillance tech, we have no reason to try the why or how flock will be used.

5:01:37

Flock gives us data to federal agencies to commit violence on immigrants and all of us.

5:01:41

They do not care about contracts, laws, or promises.

5:01:44

The people of Berkeley oppose Flock every time it comes up.

5:01:47

We are here at this late hour unpaid to say it again.

5:01:49

And it is time for you to counsel to represent our opposition to that.

5:01:52

No Flock, no surveillance, reject Berkeley's contract with Flock.

5:01:55

Thank you.

5:01:58

Thank you.

5:02:00

Hi, my name is Marin.

5:02:02

I'm a resident of uh district district three.

5:02:05

Um I work for the state of California.

5:02:07

That means that I serve the citizens of California.

5:02:10

And in turn, that means that you, our council members serve us.

5:02:14

Literally, everyone here is your boss.

5:02:16

So that means you have to listen to us.

5:02:18

And look at how many people showed up for us tonight.

5:02:22

And if you're not gonna be listening to us, then I guess we'll be voting you guys out.

5:02:26

Thanks.

5:02:29

Thank you.

5:02:33

Good evening, and thank you for this opportunity.

5:02:35

I'm Oma Wally Fowles.

5:02:37

I have a minute from someone back here who told me to announce my minute.

5:02:42

Anyway, um sorry, who has your who's your minute from?

5:02:46

Oh, okay.

5:02:47

Thank you.

5:02:48

Um I'm the former health count health commissioner for the city of Berkeley.

5:02:54

I'm also uh member of Berkeley Equity Summit Alliance, and I'm also the housing director at Telegraph Community Ministry Center, tell uh a roof over their heads, emergency to permanent housing.

5:03:06

We house homeless people and uh feed them also and have a pantry.

5:03:11

And if you need a flyer, I'll put the flyers in the back so you guys can use them and hand them out to whomever you need.

5:03:16

But the thing that I'm concerned about today is consent consent and compelling reasons.

5:03:21

Um we do not have consent to do the contract with FLEC, FLOC.

5:03:27

And we should not have done the contract with Flock because even as a city.

5:03:33

Um holding California Constitution, Article 1, Section 1 guarantees an inevitable right to privacy against both government and private entities.

5:03:43

This protects against unwarranted sharing of personal information with third parties and government enforced through strict laws requiring consent for data disclosure.

5:03:57

You are also this contract with Flock is in uh violation of government code 11015.5, which says you cannot have personal information shared with third-party persons, governments, businesses, etc.

5:04:17

Except that there is a legal consent of the user.

5:04:22

We don't have any of that.

5:04:24

I have not signed anything for con for uh flock to give my information to ICE.

5:04:30

That's ridiculous.

5:04:31

I don't know anybody else in this room who has you haven't either.

5:04:34

So apparently you are in violation of the California Constitution, which also is in viol which also shows that you're partially in violation of the federal one.

5:04:44

Thank you.

5:04:44

Thanks for your comment.

5:04:45

Okay.

5:04:48

It is it is 1128, so I want to take two more public comments, and then we're gonna take another quick break.

5:04:56

I've got staff, my staff have some numbers.

5:05:00

They're gonna pass them out so that you can keep track of where you are in line.

5:05:02

And we're we'll take a 10-minute break after the this person and the next person.

5:05:07

Okay, go ahead.

5:05:08

Hi, my name is Jen Phelps Quinn.

5:05:10

Um I am a nice agent.

5:05:12

That is not ice.

5:05:14

I've been throwing a weekly dance party on the overpass that has a protest flavor.

5:05:20

Um, nice not ice.

5:05:21

I want to thank BPD, first of all.

5:05:23

We were possibly swatted last week.

5:05:26

BPD showed up and found that there was no man with a rifle on the overpass, and they were very, very helpful and sweet and understanding.

5:05:35

Um I know that there are major concerns about police brutality across the country.

5:05:41

In my 30 plus years living here in Berkeley, the only experiences I've had with BPD have been positive.

5:05:48

Um, including a time when I was attacked in my home.

5:05:53

Um, so I really appreciate the thoughtful um and very reasonable um and empathic officers of the BPD.

5:06:02

My concerns about this are not that BPD is gonna let us down.

5:06:08

It is that um Flock is a treasure horse.

5:06:11

Um the parents at Berkeley.

5:06:15

Thank you.

5:06:15

I'm sorry, your time is up.

5:06:17

Thank you.

5:06:20

I believe I have one minute over here, one minute.

5:06:22

Um, thank you.

5:06:24

Uh Adriana Betty, executive director of Rise, also the director of the Native Youth Group here in uh Berkeley, Quatlimitotiani Mashika.

5:06:32

I'm speaking to you as a First Nations woman also, and I want to talk about how drones have impacted our Berkeley youth and how they could be impacting our youth.

5:06:40

Um in the early 80s, I protest.

5:06:43

In the early 80s, I protested apartheid.

5:06:46

In 2016, I was at Standing Rock.

5:06:48

While at Standing Rock, I was photographed facial recognitions, license plates, all kinds of things like that.

5:06:54

That has impacted me and put me on a number of different supposedly dangerous lists for exercising my you know my my constitutional right.

5:07:03

Every year we travel internationally, the Berkeley Youth Group.

5:07:06

Last year we were invited to the International Indigenous Leadership Gathering as honored guests, as well as a number of different other gatherings.

5:07:14

Due to security, I had to cancel every single one of those gift, um, those trips.

5:07:18

I'm the only adult that travels with those young people.

5:07:21

If they detain me, they detain every one of those young people.

5:07:24

We've crossed the international border border before when it wasn't as heightened as it is right now.

5:07:29

And you know, they detained us.

5:07:31

They actually took a kid away from me one time and put him in a separate room.

5:07:34

So the rights that we get as Native people, we all know they're not the same.

5:07:38

The injustice is the same.

5:07:40

And I know they're talking about deporting us, and a number of elders have been picked up.

5:07:44

Where do you deport us to?

5:07:45

I don't know.

5:07:46

So Berkeley Youth for 2025, uh, all their uh trips were canceled into British Columbia.

5:07:52

For 2026, we have canceled all of our trips into British Columbia.

5:07:56

Uh actually, we've canceled all our international trips.

5:07:59

Uh, we're still doing stuff inside the United States carefully.

5:08:03

Um the other thing, as a Berkeley grad and going to Berkeley, we see that our kids are still protesting and exercising their constitutional rights.

5:08:11

So as they do protest um, you know, and say these cameras around, who gets the advantage of having those cameras?

5:08:19

Does that mean these young people that are expressing their right now, just like me in Standing Rock, are now that's two minutes.

5:08:27

Thank you, I know.

5:08:28

Two minutes is fast.

5:08:29

Okay.

5:08:29

Just thanks, Miss Betty.

5:08:31

What if you have to start wearing masks?

5:08:33

Okay, someone else is giving you a minute.

5:08:34

Go ahead.

5:08:35

So I just wanted to finish that thought.

5:08:37

Thank you so much.

5:08:38

So as these young people are trying to express their rights.

5:08:45

So that does that mean that our students now have to wear masks at protest.

5:08:54

And then my question becomes as we start wearing masks at protest to protect ourselves from these surveillance things, what problem does that cause for our police department?

5:09:04

Thank you, Miss Betty.

5:09:06

Um if you did not get a number, make sure you get a number from Julie, who's back there talking to folks.

5:09:13

And um, otherwise you'll end up at the back of the line.

5:09:16

So please make sure you get a number from Julie, and then that way you can move around.

5:09:20

So we're gonna take 10 minutes.

5:09:21

Okay.

5:31:11

Recording in progress.

5:31:13

Okay.

5:31:14

All right.

5:31:14

Thank you all so much for your patience.

5:31:17

Folks, please.

5:31:19

Okay.

5:31:19

If you can please get in line based on your numbered pieces of paper.

5:31:25

Thank you so much to my staff for handing those out.

5:31:28

Thank you all for your patience.

5:31:31

Okay.

5:31:32

Are you okay?

5:31:33

Yeah, yeah.

5:31:34

Okay.

5:31:36

Okay.

5:31:36

All right.

5:31:37

Shh.

5:31:38

Okay.

5:31:40

Folks.

5:31:41

I need it to be quiet so that we can start a public comment again.

5:31:45

If you're gonna have a conversation, please take it outside.

5:31:49

Thank you.

5:31:50

Okay, come on up.

5:31:54

I just need one minute.

5:31:57

Uh I'm a resident of District 8, and I am deeply concerned about mass surveillance and the privatization and monetization of our personal data.

5:32:07

And I question whether license plate readers keep us safe.

5:32:11

Even if the city demands.

5:32:15

Sorry, hold on, your mic went out.

5:32:17

Forty-two seconds.

5:32:18

Go ahead.

5:32:18

Try again.

5:32:19

Even if the city demands uh hold on, let's pause for a second.

5:32:29

Okay.

5:32:30

Even if the city demands I'll give you more time.

5:32:32

Okay.

5:32:32

I don't need more time.

5:32:34

Even if this even if the city demands a contract with escape clauses and punitive provisions for non-compliance, a private company will fold to the demands of a federal agency such as ICE.

5:32:44

As for public safety, Flock provides a false sense of security.

5:32:49

Supporters cite anecdotal evidence when Flock aided a criminal investigation, but an analysis of a large set of license plate reader data from 63 California law enforcement agencies found that only point zero five percent of data collected was relevant to a public safety concern.

5:33:16

Thank you.

5:34:23

Oh, thank you.

5:34:24

Over here.

5:35:01

As I grew up.

5:35:03

The children a year or two years ahead of me, they had more freedoms in almost every way in school and in driving.

5:35:10

And so I have watched this country walk back our freedoms in the name of safety in all of these little ways, and I don't like it.

5:35:23

The second thing is that this council, many of this members here seem incredibly naive about how tech companies work.

5:35:31

They are going to try to trap you in this contract.

5:35:33

They'll say they won't, but they are trying right now.

5:35:36

They're scheming in whatever Zoom chat they're in about how to trap you in that contract, despite you that you think you've schemed your way out of it.

5:35:46

Once they have you, they will squeeze and squeeze and squeeze.

5:35:50

And we know that ICE is coming for more people.

5:35:53

They're coming for me next.

5:35:54

They're coming from the immigrants now, but I'm a trans person.

5:35:57

They're coming for me next.

5:35:59

And I see faces on this council that are also in the set of people they are coming for next.

5:36:05

And when Trump's Nazis come here to murder you, Flock will be right there helping them.

5:36:12

Thank you.

5:36:15

Thank you.

5:36:24

Hello, my name is Todd Darling.

5:36:26

I'm in District 3.

5:36:27

Technology is not neutral.

5:36:30

And this is not taking place in a vacuum.

5:36:33

Big data has become the politically aligned handmaiden of the Trump regime.

5:36:39

This contract will help them.

5:36:41

Flock, Meta, Google, Palantir, Y Combinator, and Driesen Horowitz et al.

5:36:47

Decided that their growth potential resides with defense contracts and surveillance.

5:36:53

They're making they've departed from making useful gadgets to stuff that kills people, surveils the population, or murders them when they get angry about it.

5:37:04

As we've seen in Minneapolis and other places.

5:37:07

In 2026, the utility of this technology is far out far the dangers of this technology far outweighs the marginal use of it.

5:37:20

Drones are cheap enough that if the fire department needs one, they can get one.

5:37:25

Trump's Trump surveillance done.

5:37:28

Thanks for your comment.

5:37:30

Give me 30 seconds, somebody.

5:37:32

Sorry, I you're supposed to do this before.

5:37:35

You're gonna give comment.

5:37:36

You're gonna give your time.

5:37:37

Okay.

5:37:38

Thank you very much.

5:37:44

Trump's surveillance state does not need any more help from us.

5:37:49

The real perpetrators are in Silicon Valley and Washington, D.C.

5:37:54

As a council, we're asking you to defend Berkeley, not join the perpetrators.

5:37:58

Get rid of Flock, do not sign this contract.

5:38:01

We do not need more surveillance.

5:38:06

Thank you.

5:38:11

Hello.

5:38:12

Um let's see.

5:38:15

Learning about the existence of BPD's real-time information center has been nothing but appalling.

5:38:21

Community video streams fed into the alleged real-time information center system.

5:38:26

Um yet there is no mention of any auditing policy that will take place when data breaches take place via third-party platforms.

5:38:33

Despite this, Flock has historically proven integration paths with quote-unquote community streams like Amazon ring cameras, further stacking the layers of this data sharing nightmare.

5:38:45

Um there are private, these are private corporations that have the provision to collaborate without explicit city approval.

5:38:53

Increased reliance on Flock will make it easier for Flock to deploy new technologies and collaborations without city without council approval.

5:39:00

And frankly, BPD knows this because of their flimsy plea to avoid door-to-door canvassing in order to obtain this footage.

5:39:08

Open data sharing.

5:39:09

This is a slippery slope.

5:39:14

Thank you.

5:39:17

We don't only have Ice to worry about using these drones and surveillance.

5:39:21

In the beginning of the meeting, we had multiple commenters pointing out the issues with BPD whose excessive brutality resulted in a well-known 2015 civil rights lawsuit, and who are currently engaging in well-documented racial profiling.

5:39:31

The chief, without council approval, unilaterally struck out more than two-thirds of the current use of force policy in December, including the requirement to attempt de-escalation before employing force.

5:39:41

The so-called public safety subcommittee wants to authorize BPD to use chemical weapons, including tear gas.

5:39:45

Our PAB is gutted and has no enforcement capability.

5:39:48

The independent policy review commissioned by the PAB from the Berkeley Criminal Justice and Law Center also showed the PPD's claims about the efficacy of this technology are false.

5:40:00

I'll quote claims that drones as first responding technologies improved safety response time and staffing efficiencies advanced by vendors and captured in the department's policies remain largely unsubstantiated.

5:40:06

Whose safety are you actually considering?

5:40:08

Because it is not ours.

5:40:09

This Berkeley exceptionalism of it can't happen here is why this is happening here and why it keeps happening everywhere.

5:40:17

Thank you.

5:40:23

You're giving here.

5:40:23

Okay, in a minute.

5:40:26

Good evening, my name is Brenda Grisham.

5:40:27

I'm the principal, one of the principal officers of Safe, the recall of Pamela Price.

5:40:32

I'm here as a mother who has lost her child her son to gun violence in Oakland.

5:40:38

I'm an advocate for public safety.

5:40:40

I have a daughter and three grandchildren.

5:40:42

I live right here in Berkeley, and I don't have any confidence that any of you care about the lives of my African American family.

5:40:49

All I've heard is what Flock has not done.

5:40:52

I haven't heard any of you tell the positive side of Flock.

5:40:56

The young lady that was trafficked to another city and flocked was there to save her life.

5:41:01

The families of people that have mental illnesses that have been brought back home because of flock, the guns that have been taken off the street because of flock.

5:41:09

And none of you can tell any of us how many people has been deported because of flock.

5:41:16

You can't tell us that.

5:41:17

All there is are the stories of what Flock has done wrong.

5:41:21

I haven't heard anything that Flock has done right.

5:41:24

And then to top it off, the men and women sitting right here that come to work here every single day.

5:41:29

The fire department and the police officers, their lives are being disrespected.

5:41:33

They have families to go home too, just like everybody else.

5:41:36

They know better than we do what they need to be safe.

5:41:39

There needs to be a balance.

5:41:41

There needs to be a coming together to make sure that all residents, not just the immigrants, the immigrants and the residents, you serve all of them.

5:41:49

And you need to do just that.

5:41:51

Don't make a hasty decision because you have a room full of people that don't have anything positive to say because there's a lot positive about flock, and there's no perfect system.

5:42:00

Every system out there has a flaw.

5:42:02

And if you move to another system, somebody ain't gonna agree with that either.

5:42:05

Thank you.

5:42:08

Hey, folks, no booing.

5:42:10

She's entitled to her opinion.

5:42:16

There's uh a minute for this person from here.

5:42:20

Okay, go ahead.

5:42:21

I'm also with Brenda.

5:42:23

We did the recall of sh uh Pamela Price, shh, Shang Tao, corrupt Shang Tao, 95 years in prison she's facing.

5:42:33

And I've been fighting for public safety for years from San Jose, and yes, last week I was at Richmond when they made the decision to continue the flock camera after they paused it.

5:42:46

And the reason is because there in Richmond, there were 274 violent criminals that were being taken off the streets.

5:42:56

And one of them actually was kidnapping a young lady.

5:43:03

They had her in a car, her phone was on, it was pinging, and they needed the flock camera to rescue her.

5:43:11

But they had turned it off last November so they couldn't rescue her.

5:43:16

Many cases like this, violent criminals who are victimizing people.

5:43:21

So they decide to put safety guardrails in place so that because we could be safe and still have sanctuary policies.

5:43:32

No immigrants were deported, no residents were deported out of Richmond, nor Burke nor Oakland.

5:43:40

And that's why the city council in Oakland voted 71 to continue the flock safety cameras.

5:43:46

And let me tell you, Mountain View might have paused their program, other cities, ventura might have paused their program, maybe 40 or 50 cities that pause their program.

5:43:56

But 6,000 plus communities continue to use the Flock camera system.

5:44:02

And for good reason.

5:44:04

So that's not in case you guys fail bath.

5:44:07

99 plus percent of communities choose to use Flock for public safety because it provides a vital service, it saves lives, it solves crimes, shootings, homicides, violent crimes.

5:44:22

Thank you.

5:44:24

Don't boo him.

5:44:25

He's entitled to speak to his opinions.

5:44:27

We we don't allow booing.

5:44:29

Go ahead.

5:44:33

I have a minute from somebody in the audience.

5:44:35

Sorry, thank you.

5:44:37

Hi Council people.

5:44:38

Um I would like to start with uh some quick rebuttals to what was just said.

5:44:44

I mean, it's almost not even worth my time to rebut these points because of the extreme paucity of uh people who actually support flock paucity, meaning lack.

5:44:52

There is a lack of them.

5:44:54

They have brought more signs than there are people.

5:45:00

It has been overwhelming that the community does not support this flaw contract.

5:45:03

Absolutely overwhelming.

5:45:05

I'd also like to take issue with this idea that it's either the community or immigrants.

5:45:12

Immigrants are our community.

5:45:16

I'd also like to respond to something that the police department said.

5:45:20

They said that these cameras pay for themselves because they come out of the existing department budget.

5:45:27

Now, how is that paying for itself?

5:45:29

I think that's us paying them, is it not?

5:45:32

Is that not how tax dollars work?

5:45:34

Is this not on our dime?

5:45:36

I get that it's within their budget, but the Berkeley police department has been and continues to really dominate our city budget.

5:45:44

So the idea that these cameras aren't gonna cost us anything because it's coming out of the police budget, the police budget comes out of our pockets.

5:45:52

I would also like to respond to, I believe it was the chief who said, oh, crime doesn't respect boundaries.

5:45:59

We need these cameras because crime doesn't respect boundaries.

5:46:02

You know what else doesn't respect a boundary?

5:46:03

A FISA warrant.

5:46:06

And if you collect this data, you can't protect it.

5:46:09

There is no way to protect this data from a FISA warrant.

5:46:12

Any data you collect can be used by the federal government.

5:46:16

It just can be.

5:46:17

And this idea that we're speculating wildly, that no one has been deported because of flock.

5:46:22

Look at what is going on in this country.

5:46:24

Somebody was just snatched in SFO.

5:46:27

ICE is roaming our streets, and Berkeley as a sanctuary city will be a target.

5:46:31

So any data that we are collecting on our community is data that will be accessed by the federal government and we will not have recourse.

5:46:38

Thank you.

5:46:39

Thank you.

5:46:47

Hi, you know you you opened this meeting with the Holocaust Remembrance thing, and it just made me think about how the Nazis would have loved flock.

5:46:55

Um and I really wonder what kind of commemoration we're gonna have in 50 years after you do this.

5:47:03

I want to bring attention to this whistle on my keychain and let you know why I have it because I know that at any moment armed mass thugs are gonna come into our community with impunity and kidnap and terrorize our neighbors, and they are gonna know exactly where to go and when because of flock and because of if you pass it, your support for this tonight.

5:47:26

So please do the right thing.

5:47:28

We are here to say overwhelmingly, do not stab us in the back so that ICE can shoot us in the face.

5:47:35

How clear do we have to make it for you?

5:47:40

Please do the right thing tonight.

5:47:43

Thank you.

5:47:45

Thank you.

5:47:51

Greetings, my name is Ian Hart.

5:47:53

I live in District 3.

5:47:55

Um, I would also like to shine some light on the moral question that and the moral act stand that we're asking you to take tonight.

5:48:03

I want you to use your imagination.

5:48:06

Um it's the year 1935 or 1936, and your constituents have come here to say um we don't want you to enter into a contract with IBM or Kodak.

5:48:20

We know that they make great punch cards.

5:48:23

We know that they make great film.

5:48:26

Um they're also propping up the Nazi regime.

5:48:31

They're using those punch cards to enforce the Nuremberg Laws.

5:48:34

They're using that film, um, which is made with forced labor and labor camps to carry out their agenda.

5:48:43

And so I want you to imagine that maybe city councils across the country divested from those companies and that we didn't have to commemorate the Holocaust.

5:48:57

Thank you.

5:49:03

Good evening.

5:49:05

Uh, my name is Ida Um District Three.

5:49:09

I'll quote Ben Franklin again.

5:49:12

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

5:49:21

Have we learned nothing in the past 25 years since the Patriot Act unleashed the eroding of our civil liberties?

5:49:29

Here in Berkeley, as you can see, we should and do know better.

5:49:34

Now is absolutely not the time to expand surveillance powers.

5:49:39

Some of the contractual muscle flexing suggestions laid out in the supplementals might sound reasonable in the world where the rule of law is followed and respected.

5:49:50

But the past 14 months of terror inflicted on us by the federal government have shown us that we absolutely cannot rely on the rule of law to protect us at this time.

5:50:02

I implore you to consider the dire nature of current.

5:50:06

Thank you.

5:50:07

Thanks so much.

5:50:14

Good evening.

5:50:14

My name is Jason Martins.

5:50:16

Uh I just want to talk about the idea of a budget as a moral document.

5:50:22

Uh, and we don't have choices, we can't make every choice.

5:50:26

Uh, and we are choosing this instead of something else.

5:50:30

Live free is a great example of an organization that has proven to reduce violence in our community, and they don't have funding right now.

5:50:40

But in a 30 million budget deficit scenario, we're gonna spend money on surveillance cameras.

5:50:47

What kind of morals and what kind of values are we demonstrating?

5:50:50

Thank you.

5:50:52

Thank you.

5:50:57

Madam Mayor, Council, I'm conflicted.

5:51:01

I stayed, stood here as a student today, and I heard many people of opposite color talk about the plight of black people or Latino people.

5:51:11

Some might even say black lives matter, some I just said 1935.

5:51:15

I can remember in 1935 or around that time, our people being hung.

5:51:20

I wouldn't know that unless it was documented.

5:51:23

Even in your chambers, when I came to the aid of a black woman to defuse the situation, I was accused of being threatened or a threat.

5:51:33

Maybe I was.

5:51:34

Maybe I wasn't.

5:51:36

If it was not for documentation for young black men as well today's society, we would be doing 25 to life to prove our innocence.

5:51:46

I am a crisis responder.

5:51:48

I respond to scenes where people are dead.

5:51:52

I say many different people, three grandkids and a grandmother out of a fire.

5:51:58

They would not know that.

5:51:59

They would think I'm a threat because I'm a black man.

5:52:02

So we need some type of documentation to save lives.

5:52:04

Thanks.

5:52:05

Thanks for your comment.

5:52:08

Yes, live.

5:52:10

Good evening.

5:52:11

My name is Jeanette, and I'm a lifelong resident, homeowner, and voter in Berkeley District 2.

5:52:17

Are those of you considering voting for these cameras and this contract knowledgeable of history?

5:52:23

Do you know about the McCarthy era?

5:52:25

Co-Intail Pro, how the information gathered is used to kill and destroy people and destroy dissent and organizing efforts.

5:52:33

Do you have historical amnesia?

5:52:36

Did you forget that when the government unlawfully rounded up Japanese Americans and put them in concentration camps, that they use their intel to easily locate them?

5:52:46

It's not possible to be a sanctuary city while contracting with flock.

5:52:51

That's an oxymoron.

5:52:52

If you vote for this, you are carrying out Trump's agenda.

5:52:56

You say the flock cameras and contract are for safety, not safety for immigrants, not safety for women seeking health care, not safety for trans people, not safety for protesters or organizers.

5:53:07

These cameras put us, the community in danger.

5:53:10

Who wants these cameras?

5:53:12

The police, outsiders, they don't live in Berkeley, and they're not gonna vote for you.

5:53:16

Thank you.

5:53:24

Hello, counsel.

5:53:25

You opened this meeting talking about Holocaust remembrance.

5:53:29

Do you realize that this tool is exactly what supports making a Holocaust happen?

5:53:35

A network of cameras tracking people that government wants to find.

5:53:39

This is not hypothetical.

5:53:41

This is happening right now.

5:53:43

And we kid ourselves that we are putting real safeguards in place.

5:53:46

75,000, one million, it does not matter.

5:53:50

FISA warrants.

5:53:52

The government can, through a secret court, get this information at any time.

5:53:56

We will not know those safeguards don't matter at all.

5:53:59

They do nothing.

5:54:01

Consider Meramar Martinez, a school teacher I shot five times in her court case, DHS move to suppress two things.

5:54:09

The agent's text bragging about shooting her and drum roll, 30 days of flock surveillance footage on her.

5:54:17

She was targeted using flock.

5:54:19

Data sharing amendments like the one Berkeley added would do have done nothing to prevent this.

5:54:25

Thank you.

5:54:33

Hello, my name is Benjamin.

5:54:34

I live in the Elmwood neighborhood of District 8.

5:54:37

I urge you to discontinue Berkeley discontinue Berkeley's relationship with these surveillance technologies and certainly not expand their use.

5:54:45

I do not think that the loss of liberty and privacy required by these systems are worth any potential benefit that they may provide.

5:54:53

There are many ways to improve a community safety that do not rely on some surrendering fundamental freedoms.

5:55:00

I would also like to highlight that the best way to avoid abuse or misuse of data intentional or not is to simply not collect it in the first place.

5:55:08

Thank you.

5:55:10

Thank you.

5:55:18

All right, council members.

5:55:19

I just, you know, so we've established that you're not in control of that.

5:55:22

We're not going to be in control of the data.

5:55:24

Whether it's due to bad actors within the department, outside the department, hackers, federal agents, we're not gonna control this data.

5:55:34

So whatever penalties, you're looking at me funny, but let maybe you need to put your head in the articles.

5:55:40

That that we we I can't believe you're looking at me like that.

5:55:44

Are you are you unclear about the concept that I'm distracted?

5:55:50

Pause your time.

5:55:52

Can you keep going?

5:55:54

Keep going.

5:55:55

He's just reading your sign here.

5:55:56

Go ahead.

5:55:57

He was mean moving now.

5:55:58

He's not looking at you, Andrea.

5:56:00

Go ahead, your time.

5:56:03

So the fact is that you've all you're also willingly entering into a contract with a company that's ethically um not credible.

5:56:13

And so when the city council member says we can swiftly exit a contract, how many violations will be enough?

5:56:21

How many people will have to suffer before you exit that contract?

5:56:25

You're walking in.

5:56:26

It's like it's like it's like an abusive relationship.

5:56:29

You got beat up by him.

5:56:31

Why are you going back?

5:56:33

I also want to tell you this.

5:56:34

I don't know if you know this, but a public safety.

5:56:37

I wish I wish the police would actually ask us what is the number one safety threat right now in a city with declining crime rates.

5:56:48

That's not what's burning on our minds.

5:56:51

We're worried about the fascists.

5:56:53

We're worried about the federal government.

5:56:56

And you stand there stone faced like you don't hear us, like you don't understand what we're saying.

5:57:01

But what I'm trying to tell you is that whether you like it or not, you are leaders in a city filled with the lunatic left, filled with with domestic terrorists, people who are willing to give a meal to a hungry person, somebody who maybe dresses all in black, you know, and that I guess that make that qualifies us for Antifa.

5:57:25

I'm joking, but I'm serious.

5:57:27

Can I have one more minute, please?

5:57:30

What I'm trying to tell you is that there's a minute already.

5:57:32

So okay.

5:57:33

That was in the last one.

5:57:34

Yeah, over here.

5:57:35

Go ahead.

5:57:35

There's one over here.

5:57:36

Well, I'm trying to tell you, I don't know if you guys are even aware of what's happening in this town about people, networks of responders, people who are providing support to undocumented people who are worrying about what's what's going on for for day laborers, for child care workers, that we care.

5:57:57

But by doing that, caring is gonna get us targeted.

5:58:01

That flock data will be tracking where we go to school, where we go, who we met, who we talk to.

5:58:08

Oh, well, does that number connect with that number?

5:58:10

Connects with this number.

5:58:12

Oh, well, that must be Antifa.

5:58:14

That's what's happening here.

5:58:16

And we perceive that as a public safety threat.

5:58:20

And you sit there stone faced like you don't understand, and that in my mind, it really sort of disqualifies you for the jobs that you have if you're not able to understand that this whole night and this whole movement is about getting you to shift your understanding of what the greatest threat to the public safety is.

5:58:42

Thanks, Andrew.

5:58:43

Thank you.

5:58:54

All right.

5:58:55

So we had you all voted and were there were lots of uh kudos to um I'm forgetting her name now, who's gonna be the interim director, Kathy of the of the pol Cathy Lee Kathy Lee, thank you, of the police accountability board.

5:59:11

So now you have an opportunity to show your support for our rocking police accountability board who did such deep due diligence.

5:59:20

I don't know where the city manager or the city attorneys were, and they were just like waving this agreement through when they in 24 hours identified 30 issues.

5:59:30

There's likely more because they didn't have time.

5:59:33

So this is an opportunity for you to get behind your commitment, which all of you said when you fired the director, that you do believe in police accountability and police oversight.

5:59:45

What we know is that poverty is criminogenic.

5:59:49

We need to get at the source of what causes crime, which is poverty.

5:59:54

So invest in community well-being instead of over 95 million dollars into the police department this year.

6:00:00

Thanks.

6:00:06

And any contract with Flock is inconsistent with our status as a sanctuary city.

6:00:12

We can't have it both ways.

6:00:14

If you have how's an abused woman, but you give her abusers' friend a key to pass on to the abuser, which gives him access.

6:00:24

How have you protected her?

6:00:26

Uh flock contracts have been canceled elsewhere because they violate these contracts.

6:00:33

So what good does it do to come up with all these amendments with safeguards in them if they are likely to violate them?

6:00:43

Um would you go into business with someone who had a history of embezzling from their previous partners, business partners?

6:00:53

Would you trust them?

6:00:55

So why would we trust Flock?

6:00:57

I mean, the police do need uh public safety tools, they need the correct tools.

6:01:03

Are these the correct tools at this at this point in time?

6:01:07

And I have another minute.

6:01:09

Okay.

6:01:10

Are these the correct tools at this point in time?

6:01:13

Safety is important.

6:01:15

I don't think anyone disputes that, but is but not at the cost of not our civil rights, not the cause of potentially doing harm, and serious harm, and has uh an earlier the social worker mentioned.

6:01:30

There's also psychological harm from all of this.

6:01:34

There's also terror among perfect people in the community who feel that they are particularly at risk and vulnerable.

6:01:41

And as we know from Alex Pratty and Renee Good, anybody actually is at risk.

6:01:47

Thank you.

6:01:50

Thank you.

6:01:56

I think I think I have two minutes.

6:01:58

Anyone else want to give me a minute if you're not speaking?

6:02:01

Uh okay, hold on a second.

6:02:04

Okay.

6:02:05

Do you need just two?

6:02:06

Um I'm gonna take three if I can get it.

6:02:08

Okay, hold on.

6:02:09

Hold on one second.

6:02:10

Let me keep track of it.

6:02:11

So this person in the back.

6:02:13

And thank you for four folks.

6:02:15

You already gave a minute in the front.

6:02:16

Okay, so this person here and that person on the wall.

6:02:19

Okay, thank you.

6:02:20

So you'll have four.

6:02:22

Okay.

6:02:22

Thank you.

6:02:24

Hello, Mary and Council.

6:02:26

My name is Nathan Mizell.

6:02:28

I am a ramport commissioner.

6:02:30

I'm speaking in many visual capacity.

6:02:32

I am the former vice chair of the PAB.

6:02:34

I was a member of the French Policing Task Force, and I was the chair of the city's reimagining public safety task force.

6:02:41

Um today, um, as Vice Chair Wilson um mentioned.

6:02:46

This is the most significant expansion of surveillance in our city's history.

6:02:51

And I won't bury the lead here.

6:02:53

I am supporting the mayor's supplemental, which, while flawed, I appreciate that it reflects on the inherent problem with flock safety.

6:03:05

Here are the facts as I know them.

6:03:06

We have a department that ignores oversight at every turn, undermines oversight actively.

6:03:11

We have a private company well known for violating legal and contractual agreements, and the federal government hellbent on attacking our immigrant community with any surveillance tool we can get a hands on.

6:03:23

Originally, this stuff was supposed to be a pilot, but I guess now it's permanent, advanced surveillance that we must have all the time.

6:03:30

Um again, this is a chief who ignores PAB investigatory subpoenas.

6:03:35

This is the chief who unlawfully tried to weaken the use of force policy just last week.

6:03:40

This is a chief who wasn't accused, was found to have violated by outside law firm to say sexual harassment policy, was accused by four BPD officers of making advances on younger officers.

6:03:55

Surely there is someone else we could have before we hand over a mass surveillance tool.

6:04:02

Now returning to Flock.

6:04:04

Flock's own chief legal officer says that they admit about they admit the abuse.

6:04:10

They admit that their data has been accessed in ways that cities have written into contracts they shouldn't be able to access.

6:04:15

They just say, well, now our violations will be logged better.

6:04:19

That's the expectation we can have as a city.

6:04:21

Violations will be logs.

6:04:24

The truth of the matter is if Flock was a person, BPD would be sending out a nixel alert warning the community that a dangerous criminal was on the loose and that committed crimes across the state, and that they were doing everything in their power to keep us safe.

6:04:38

But since Flock is a mass surveillance company, they're okay with it.

6:04:43

Apparently, the department is fine with criminality when it serves them.

6:04:49

And the truth of the matter is this as well.

6:04:51

I heard some of the lawyers talking earlier.

6:04:53

I'm a lowly too well, but I can say this much.

6:04:56

Lawyers should know the limits of their powers.

6:05:00

No magical contractual terms are going to prevent Flock from taking our data and using it as they wish.

6:05:05

They've done it to dozens of cities.

6:05:08

What makes you think you're so special?

6:05:10

We have the perfect attorneys, the perfect contract.

6:05:12

We don't.

6:05:13

It will not protect us.

6:05:19

Let's go quickly to the data.

6:05:20

I got one minute.

6:05:21

This department says bringing this technology will fix all the crime.

6:05:25

Actually, based on their own data, it has solves about 0.59% of crime in Berkeley.

6:05:32

0.59%.

6:05:33

We are willing to sell out our immigrant community.

6:05:36

Sell out our values as a sanctuary city.

6:05:39

Sell out all the moral compass that we used to have as a city for supposedly by their own numbers, a.59% reduction in crime.

6:05:49

Those are the facts, folks.

6:05:51

And sadly, we seem to be headed in that direction.

6:05:55

Despite the fact that we were the first city in this nation to pass the sanctuary ordinance.

6:05:59

We were the first city in this nation with a police accountability board with the powers to investigate police misconduct.

6:06:05

We have many good force.

6:06:06

We're in the first city to get daylighting on our streets done to protect folks as they walk and bike on our streets.

6:06:12

These are positive things.

6:06:14

Let us not be, let's remember those first.

6:06:19

Let's remember those first because ultimately, whether it's now, next week or November, accountability will return to the city.

6:06:26

And I hope tonight is the night.

6:06:28

You make the right vote.

6:06:29

You're finished with your own.

6:06:32

Come on.

6:06:43

Hi, um, my name is Gordon Gilmar.

6:06:45

Can you hear me?

6:06:47

Um I'm with the Berkeley Outreach Coalition, and I just um well, most of what I wanted to say tonight has already been said, but I want to follow a theme that Verena brought up at the very beginning, and Carol just brought up again recently.

6:07:01

Um let me start by saying that it's recently seemed like we've been playing a game of dystopian bingo.

6:07:10

First, we got less lethal weapons, and we got drones flying off from the cop shop, and now we got AI surveillance accessible to ice and military equipment added into the equation.

6:07:23

This all equals an assault on the psyche of the city.

6:07:27

Choosing again and again to direct funds from support of our community to bolstering a perpetual undercurrent of fear to coerce compliance and dampen free speech.

6:07:38

We, as the public, should not need to feel like we need to be on perpetual defense against decisions of our city council.

6:07:45

Craft for resolutions for communication.

6:07:48

Thanks.

6:07:56

Hi, folks.

6:07:57

Um, the Israelization of the US includes what happens inside the Zionist entity, which is a very highly surveilled.

6:08:11

Many, many cameras everywhere.

6:08:13

Cameras watching cameras.

6:08:16

Yet here in this country, anybody who supports Palestine is under surveillance, is under the gun.

6:08:25

People look at them.

6:08:26

Funny, there's something wrong with us.

6:08:28

We're terrorist supporters.

6:08:30

We support what we support, and it's considered wrong.

6:08:37

And the Israelis of America enforces that with the reality of cameras everywhere, watching people everywhere.

6:08:48

And flock just contributes to that.

6:08:51

And we don't need that.

6:08:52

We don't need any more Israelis of the US.

6:08:56

We don't need any more flock.

6:08:58

Thank you.

6:09:05

I think I have a few minutes from the crowd.

6:09:08

One.

6:09:08

I see.

6:09:09

One hold on, wait, first a second.

6:09:11

You already have you already gave your minute.

6:09:13

You can't give a minute again, sir, in the front.

6:09:16

Okay.

6:09:16

Go ahead.

6:09:17

So one minute from you.

6:09:19

Uh hold on, I can't you already gave your minute.

6:09:22

This person raising their hand.

6:09:24

You would like to give a minute.

6:09:25

Okay, you have two minutes extra.

6:09:27

So that's three.

6:09:30

Okay.

6:09:38

Time's running.

6:09:39

Go ahead.

6:09:40

Um, okay.

6:09:41

Well, thank you, City Council members.

6:09:43

Thank you for those who are looking and not texting.

6:09:46

I appreciate your attention to this grave matter.

6:09:49

Um, you know, I so my name's Aidan Aiden Hill.

6:09:54

I live in District 7.

6:09:56

If I was a council member for District 7, I would simply say no.

6:10:00

Why waste the people's time?

6:10:02

Why not work on something to help the community?

6:10:05

I want to say thank you to the people who are taking the time to stay here, even if it is till 1 a.m.

6:10:11

We're all risking something, and you should know what that is.

6:10:14

We're all being recorded right now.

6:10:17

So we all have privilege.

6:10:19

You understand that the people that are here have the ability to be seen on that screen, to be watched by MAGA clones or whoever's watching.

6:10:28

You're putting your community at risk by even debating this topic.

6:10:34

I hope you do sit with that.

6:10:36

I hope you do realize that Flock is already deployed across Berkeley in District 7.

6:10:42

It's right on Telegraph and Bancroft, a well-known major transportation hub that takes our sanctuary students into campus.

6:10:50

It's also on Durant Avenue, which is what part of our economic corridor.

6:10:56

You know, all of this seems to just be some type of way to justify predictive policing, is what I can think of it.

6:11:05

You don't want to address the systems that place people in a um a form of crime-bearing behavior.

6:11:12

You don't want to give water fountains to everyone to make sure that they're hydrated.

6:11:16

You don't want to give morning coffees to people so they're not angry.

6:11:20

You don't want to give sleeping bags.

6:11:22

You don't want to give affordable housing.

6:11:24

We only have 20% in each building.

6:11:26

But we can have a 22-story high rise at Annahead Hall.

6:11:31

And are the people who are doing this crime going to get the benefits of these resources?

6:11:39

You just want to watch them while they suffer.

6:11:43

Because crime is a symptom of something that's wrong.

6:11:47

And as first responders, as representatives, recognize the duty to your people means the duty for them to feel safe.

6:11:57

And the only way people can feel safe is if their bodies feel safe.

6:12:01

That means making sure that people get enough sleep.

6:12:04

That means making sure that people get enough food to eat.

6:12:07

All of our time, and I want to be clear, all of our time needs to be put towards something positive for this community.

6:12:15

Flock is not the answer.

6:12:16

The police accountability board gave you a wonderful, you know, everyone here is saying the same thing.

6:12:23

Delay this opinion.

6:12:25

If you if you must continue, delay it until another night.

6:12:28

Let us have ICE leave San Francisco first before you give them Flock security cameras.

6:12:35

At the very least, thank you.

6:12:44

Hello.

6:12:45

Um he will be giving me his one minute, so I have two minutes.

6:12:48

Sorry, can you stand a little bit so I can okay?

6:12:51

Thank you.

6:12:52

All right, just start.

6:12:53

Okay.

6:12:54

Uh hello, my name is Evelyn.

6:12:56

I'm a Berkeley undergrad student, an RA for the Berkeley Student Cooperative, and a resident of District 7.

6:13:02

Um, I believe that we should not pass this order.

6:13:04

Flock is a company known for handing data to ICE and puts our immigrant community in danger of the draconian policies ICE has been known to do.

6:13:12

While Flock has claimed that they will not give ICE any info without a valid reason, I find it hard to believe that ICE, an organization that has conducted no knock raids, arrested people without habeas corpus, and is responsible for shooting three unarmed individuals this year would follow such a provision.

6:13:29

ICE is not a law enforcement organization, but a brown shirt-like group of thugs that go around arresting people without any any care of our constitution.

6:13:39

By passing this measure, we are not only violating the privacy of everyone in the city, but also putting our immigrant communities in danger of getting brutalized and imprisoned indefinitely.

6:13:48

If you pass this, the blood of innocent people will be shed by the people who are committing crimes in Minneapolis, San Francisco, LA, and more.

6:13:57

We must make Berkeley a fortress against the Trump administration and not allow this Trojan horse to enter our community and destroy it from within.

6:14:05

Thank you.

6:14:07

Thank you.

6:14:15

I have another minute.

6:14:16

Cheryl, didn't you speak already?

6:14:18

No, I did not.

6:14:21

Yeah, she did speak alright.

6:14:23

I did not on this subject.

6:14:25

Get the hell out of here.

6:14:26

Okay, go ahead.

6:14:28

You have a minute.

6:14:29

No, I have two minutes.

6:14:31

And I haven't started yet.

6:14:33

Where's my other minute?

6:14:34

Over there.

6:14:38

Hold on, Mark's gonna check.

6:14:40

Mark's in it, Mark's gonna check.

6:14:42

Thank god you've got multiple times, so it's hard for me to hear.

6:14:47

So disrespectful and enjoying I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna check.

6:14:50

There's nothing wrong with that.

6:14:51

We're gonna just don't.

6:14:52

There is something.

6:14:53

You didn't check anybody else in the fucking room.

6:14:56

God.

6:14:57

Okay.

6:14:58

All right.

6:14:58

So you've got there.

6:15:00

So you've got fully profiling.

6:15:03

One comment.

6:15:04

I'm not going to apologize for double checking something.

6:15:07

All right.

6:15:08

I'm a two of that.

6:15:10

You have two minutes.

6:15:11

Who knows?

6:15:12

Cheryl.

6:15:12

You can rule.

6:15:13

You have two minutes.

6:15:14

Excuse me.

6:15:15

What?

6:15:16

You have two minutes to speak.

6:15:17

You piss me off.

6:15:18

Start my time over, please.

6:15:22

Your time.

6:15:23

You can use it as you'd like.

6:15:25

You're so disrespectful and rude.

6:15:28

I can't wait for you to be gone.

6:15:32

Data storing will not be controlled.

6:15:36

That's a god dang lie, and y'all know it.

6:15:39

Flock should not be in Berkeley.

6:15:43

It shouldn't be anywhere.

6:15:45

You know you can't control the data.

6:15:48

You can't, the feds can do anything they damn well please.

6:15:53

And I really am really, you really got to me right now.

6:15:58

And I'm just like so sick of all the disrespect in this fucking chambers.

6:16:03

You don't listen to the people ever.

6:16:06

Nobody in this room wants flock.

6:16:09

Black and brown people in the city of Berkeley don't want flock.

6:16:14

It doesn't save lives.

6:16:17

It doesn't, it doesn't do any of the things that they're saying, and plus they lied to you about some of the things that they said.

6:16:23

People have already pointed out the lives.

6:16:26

Put the money into voices against violence or live free.

6:16:30

Put the money into uh uh um income for folks so that they can live in Berkeley and get the services that they need.

6:16:40

But you know, I'm like I guess that was your point to throw me off and piss me off.

6:16:48

And you've done it.

6:16:49

But let this be the last time because I know the damn rules of the fucking city council.

6:16:55

You don't have to check because I know, just because you don't know the damn rules, and that's a damn shame because you're supposed to be the mayor.

6:17:03

He's supposed to know these things.

6:17:06

You know, if you're just being racist and disrespect and disrespectful, and that is really a shame.

6:17:13

Free Palestine and thank you.

6:17:16

Okay, so we've got some comments online.

6:17:21

If you are online and you'd like to give public comment on item number 26, which is the public safety technology item, surveillance technology ordinance and police equipment ordinance approvals, policy updates, and contract authority.

6:17:37

Um please raise your hand and Mr.

6:17:42

City Clerk, if you could please start us off.

6:17:44

Uh before we do, Madam Mayor.

6:17:46

Yes.

6:17:47

Should we extend the meeting time?

6:17:50

We have 20.

6:17:50

There's 28 minutes.

6:17:53

That was so funny.

6:17:53

So you have you have um we have until 130.

6:17:57

Okay, sorry.

6:17:57

So okay.

6:18:01

Okay.

6:18:02

The um first commenter is Mar.

6:18:08

Um, I'm here with my roommate who's seeding their minute to me.

6:18:12

Roommate, can you just verbally let us know?

6:18:15

Yeah, they can take my minute.

6:18:17

Okay, thank you.

6:18:19

Okay, so Keith, there's gonna be two minutes for that person.

6:18:25

Okay, that's fine.

6:18:26

Thank you.

6:18:27

All right, thank you.

6:18:28

Um, we cannot expect to be able to exit an agreement with Flock at any time because Flock has proven that they will lie.

6:18:36

Incidents in Evanston, Illinois, and Verona, Wisconsin saw cameras remain active after cities decided to cancel their contracts.

6:18:44

Getting so bad that city officials had to issue cease and desist orders and resort to covering up the cameras with bags.

6:18:51

Um, I heard the name Chandler mentioned.

6:18:54

I believe it was in reference to Trevor Chandler, who is a representative of Flock, who has lied on Twitter earlier this month, claiming that vehicle thefts increased by 33% in Richmond after Flock cameras were turned off.

6:19:07

When in reality, the highest number of vehicle thefts was in November when cameras were on, and that's per Richmond crime statistics reports.

6:19:17

Um, there's also mentions of the benefits of a network effect and a one audit trail from Flock.

6:19:23

Um, that doesn't really mean shit in regards to ice.

6:19:28

There's no way for an independent audit to know if and when ice has access mass surveillance data because the DHS license plate reader policies for any vendor says, quote, ice query data is not retained by the vendor except to maintain logs for the use by ice.

6:19:46

Any positive match results are tagged as ice and would not be retained in the vendor database.

6:19:52

Further, ICE does not share any query terms, query results, or uploaded images with state or local law enforcement agency or any other entity with access to the vendor's database.

6:20:02

So only ICE would be able to self-audit.

6:20:05

And are we really going to trust them on that?

6:20:07

Like be so real.

6:20:10

Yeah.

6:20:11

And just to get back to reality for a second, as was mentioned multiple times.

6:20:17

Last Sunday, a woman was violently taken against her will, separated from her child at SFO Airport, and ICE is being deployed to airports across the US, standing around TSA lines.

6:20:30

And this is said by your public comment, your time's out.

6:20:34

Next is Wendy A.

6:20:43

Wendy, you should be able to unmute.

6:20:53

John Lindsay.

6:20:56

Okay.

6:20:56

Thank you.

6:20:57

So also.

6:20:59

Yes.

6:21:00

Thank you.

6:21:04

Well, why don't we just go to well?

6:21:08

Okay.

6:21:11

Our hand.

6:21:12

And Lendy.

6:21:15

Okay, now we now we have Wendy Alson.

6:21:20

So John, when you're when your name comes up in the list, I think you're fourth, then you'll get an extra minute.

6:21:27

Okay, go ahead.

6:21:28

Hello.

6:21:29

This is Marilyn Cleveland.

6:21:31

I think I showed up as Wendy Elston, and I'm also ceding my time to John Lindsay Poland.

6:21:36

Sorry, we can't.

6:21:37

Okay, another second person is ceding their time to John Lindsey Poland.

6:21:41

So John, you'll have three minutes.

6:21:43

Okay.

6:21:49

Yes.

6:21:50

Okay.

6:21:57

Hi.

6:21:58

So well, I like um Councilmember Bartlett's idea of you know charging in very large amount for violations of the contract.

6:22:16

Realistically, no financial penalty is going to keep Flock from choosing to divulge our data to Homeland Security and ICE.

6:22:30

Um they're in real tight with uh the Trump administration.

6:22:37

Uh their founders are huge donors.

6:22:40

Um it's not just going to be uh immigrants.

6:22:44

It's going they have gone after protesters too.

6:22:49

Um realistically, we can't have we can't have our cake and eat it too.

6:22:57

We have to choose our immigrant community.

6:23:00

Thanks, Daniel.

6:23:01

Thanks for your comment.

6:23:02

Next is Beth Rossner.

6:23:06

Good evening, Mayor and Council.

6:23:08

This is Beth Rossner, CEO of the Berkeley Chamber of Commerce.

6:23:13

We recognize and share the community's concerns around privacy and data security, especially in light of recent reports elsewhere.

6:23:21

Berkeley has already put strong safeguards in place through its existing ordinances and through the proposals put forward by some of the council members tonight.

6:23:31

We expect those protections to be rigorously upheld and enforced.

6:23:36

For our business community, public safety and economic vitality go hand in hand.

6:23:41

Employers, employees, and customers all rely on a city where people feel safe to work, shop, and invest.

6:23:49

Tools like drone as first responder, LPRs, and camera systems can improve response times and make better use of limited public safety resources.

6:23:59

With that balance of safety and privacy, we ask you to move this item forward.

6:24:04

Thank you.

6:24:05

Thank you, Beth.

6:24:09

Next is John Lindsay Poland.

6:24:12

You'll have three minutes.

6:24:17

Yes.

6:24:18

Uh we heard earlier that crime in Berkeley has dropped 20 to 40% without expanded surveillance.

6:24:25

So it is not clear what problem this contract is trying to solve, much less why a contract with Flock must be approved tonight.

6:24:35

If you don't have an informed analysis of why crime has dropped so dramatically, you don't know what effects on crime expanded surveillance will have.

6:25:01

Flock's investors are deeply committed to the Trump agenda and can change its softwares and conditions, such as what led to data access and violations in other cities.

6:25:12

You also can't protect against visa warrants from the Trump government using Berkeley data.

6:25:18

And retention policies are neither clear nor consistent with the law.

6:25:23

The chief says this proposal has had many public meetings over three years.

6:25:28

Yet the MSA was only presented to the PAB 24 hours before its meeting to consider it.

6:25:35

I was going to say that with four supplementals in front of you, it's clear that you cannot integrate, amend, edit, review, and hear meaningful input to approve the flock contract tonight.

6:25:50

I was going to say that editing complex interlocking and conflicting proposals for a lengthy contract and policies on the dais late at night is the worst kind of governance.

6:26:05

But hearing our beautiful community tonight provide diverse compelling arguments for Xing the contract.

6:26:14

I'm convinced that you should decide tonight to reject the fly flock contract.

6:26:19

So please do not show contempt for your people.

6:26:23

Listen.

6:26:24

Thanks.

6:26:24

Thank you, John.

6:26:30

Next is Neil Eggbert.

6:26:35

Good evening.

6:26:41

Neil, you have a minute from someone else.

6:26:46

Can you hear me?

6:26:47

Oh, yeah, we can hear you now.

6:26:49

Who is your Timothy Wynn?

6:26:52

He should be logged in as well.

6:26:54

Timothy or Tim Wynne.

6:26:58

Uh doesn't have his hand raised.

6:27:04

I don't see him either.

6:27:07

Okay.

6:27:07

Well, I'll get going then.

6:27:09

Timothy on.

6:27:10

Sorry.

6:27:10

Okay.

6:27:11

Good evening.

6:27:12

Uh I'm the Alec Burke, president of the Berkeley Police Association.

6:27:15

The BPA is urging your support for this item because of its core.

6:27:18

This is about Berkeley keeping pace with modern and effective public safety.

6:27:22

Technology is not optional.

6:27:23

It's a core component of smart accountable policing.

6:27:26

The tools discussed tonight give first responders the information they need to respond faster, safer, and more precisely.

6:27:32

Our staffing is dropping fast.

6:27:34

Three officers have already left for SFPD, another to a different department, and more are scheduled to leave the SFPD as soon as next month.

6:27:40

In a few weeks, we'll be policing the city with just six officers on night shift, the lowest in my 14-year career.

6:27:46

That's barely more than Emory Villa City of just barely our size.

6:27:49

At the same time, we're being asked to do more with fewer people.

6:27:53

The city is facing a budget deficit, and this matters even more than ever.

6:27:56

Public safety isn't just an expense, it's a foundation for economic stability.

6:28:00

A safe city attracts businesses, keeps storefronts occupied, and drives revenue.

6:28:04

Without that foundation, vacancies increase, investment slows in the city's financial challenges only grow.

6:28:09

If you look around the city, such as San Pablo and University, where three out of the four corners are vacant.

6:28:14

Businesses don't just need customers.

6:28:16

Neil, I'm sorry, your time's up.

6:28:17

Thank you.

6:28:18

Uh next is Dylan Mellowitz.

6:28:25

Hi, my name is Dylan Melois.

6:28:27

I'm calling on behalf of the BPA Berkeley Police Association.

6:28:30

I'm currently a robbery detective who's experienced firsthand the impact of Flock ALPRs.

6:28:35

I'm not calling on behalf of the department.

6:28:37

Berkeley needs to follow San Francisco's lead in terms of public safety.

6:28:41

This isn't there isn't one documented instance of federal authorities using Flock systems, specifically in Berkeley to conduct immigration enforcement.

6:28:48

I have many examples of how utilization of Flock technology not only solved serious crimes but prevented entire region wide sprees.

6:28:56

I can think of countless victims who cried tears of relief when I was able to tell them that we caught whoever harmed them.

6:29:01

Please do not do what Richmond did.

6:29:04

We saw crime explode the second it was known their cameras were deactivated.

6:29:07

They had an astronomical increase in vehicle thefts in a remarkably short time frame, victimizing countless people unnecessarily, and that doesn't even include crimes committed using those stolen vehicles.

6:29:18

As crime goes up, police work gets more dangerous, and it'll be up to officers to react to incidents rather than cameras deterring and preventing crime in the first place.

6:29:26

Police staffing is suffering more than ever.

6:29:28

And utilization there is no booing.

6:29:33

That's one of the rules of the procedure.

6:29:37

Next is Ben.

6:29:44

Good evening, Mayor and City Council.

6:29:46

My name is Ben.

6:29:48

I'm a UC Berkeley student from D7, and I'm speaking today on behalf of the Calberkley Democrats.

6:29:53

I urge you to reject the contract with Flock.

6:29:56

Immigrants make our community safer.

6:29:57

It's ICE that endangers Berkeley.

6:30:00

We know that ICE uses Flock cameras.

6:30:02

They were found to have accessed San Francisco's 1.6 million dollars.

6:30:06

There is no direction you can give or policy you can make to stop a judge's warrant.

6:30:10

I know you will do not intend to increase deportations, so please know that you can take actions to keep this community safe without endangering our immigrant neighbors.

6:30:19

2026 has already been a year of too much danger and a fruit.

6:30:24

Please keep Berkeley stable and safe for immigrant neighbors.

6:30:28

Do not underestimate the nationalization of local politics.

6:30:31

Thank you for your time.

6:30:34

Thanks, Ben.

6:30:36

All right.

6:30:37

Next is uh Jim.

6:30:47

Okay.

6:30:48

Can you hear me?

6:30:49

Yep.

6:30:49

Go ahead.

6:30:50

Yeah, I'm Jim Bess from District 3.

6:30:52

I live four doors down from Sylvia Mendez Elementary, a likely target of ICE operations at some point.

6:31:00

Parents, teachers, and neighbors are self-organizing safety protocols and rapid response systems to protect our families and neighbors.

6:31:08

And that's happening at Willard Middle School, Border Towns, several toddler parks and in other nearby districts.

6:31:15

My point is that even if city council members are not yet getting a powerful message from this growing body of recently activated folks, it is coming and it will persist long after this moment.

6:31:28

The community is responding to the sense of terror at having our own federal forces weaponized in our neighborhoods with no accountability and no real protection from our own Berkeley PD against these armed, massed, unidentified kidnappers.

6:31:43

Flock is clearly the wrong direction for our long-term safety.

6:31:46

When these Berkeley neighbors look to you now and in the future, they'll remember each council member's critical vote.

6:31:52

Thank you.

6:31:57

All right.

6:31:57

Next is uh Laura Hill.

6:32:03

Good evening.

6:32:03

My name is Laura, and I'm a vice president of public policy for the Bay Area Council.

6:32:08

We represent nearly 400 of the region's largest employers across many sectors, including higher education and research institutions, nonprofit and community organizations, utility and transportation providers, and private sector employers.

6:32:21

In 2023, at the request of a diverse group of 125 employers based in the East Bay, our organization formed a coalition of employers who are committed to building a safer and more vibrant region.

6:32:32

The Bay Area Council in this coalition strongly supports the continued and expanded use of flock technology in Berkeley.

6:32:39

Technology is a vital public safety tool, and it is particularly critical for cities like Berkeley that are facing significant law enforcement staffing challenges.

6:32:46

On the ground every day, this technology is a proven effective tool in recovering loss and stolen property, identifying suspects and violent crimes, preventing human trafficking, and much more.

6:32:56

As we have seen in many cities in the East Bay and throughout the region, ALPR and related technology can absolutely be implemented with appropriate safeguards in a way that balances both the needs of the community and um community privacy and public safety.

6:33:09

Decorum.

6:33:11

Next is Danel Marcus.

6:33:19

Thank you.

6:33:19

Can you hear me?

6:33:21

Yes.

6:33:22

Uh I'm a Berkeley District 5 resident.

6:33:24

I have an engineering PhD from Cal, and I've worked for three decades in computer technology implementation and governance.

6:33:30

And I'm asking the city council to terminate its relationship with Flock, as several other Bay Area cities have done.

6:33:37

Flock allows ICE access to local data.

6:33:40

Flock has lied by concealing its relationship with ICE.

6:33:43

Flock has lied by claiming its technology reduces crime.

6:33:46

Flock's largest investor is a leading Trump supporter.

6:33:50

How many dots do we need to connect?

6:33:53

Reliance on improved contractual guardrails is naive and frankly disingenuous.

6:33:59

Because we know that Flock lies.

6:34:02

Flock is in bed with ICE, and ICE is murdering people in the streets.

6:34:06

It is not plausible that Flock, given the relationship with ICE, will care about breach of contract or nominal fines.

6:34:14

150 grand is pocket lent to these people.

6:34:17

ICE will come to Berkeley, and if Flock is deployed, it will be used to support ISIS immoral and inhumane.

6:34:25

Thanks so much.

6:34:26

Next is Paolo La Verde.

6:34:30

Hi there, Pingy from District 5.

6:34:32

So the Oakland side yesterday reported that a Hayward nurse was hauled from her car after a botched plate alert near City Hall in Hayward.

6:34:43

So this woman got stopped, Anna Mora, a white lady, 62 years old, who works at the nursing home because of um there was a license plate reader system which matched her car to uh a hotless car.

6:35:00

Turns out that her back license plate had been switched, and now the officers were stopping her as if she were some sort of criminal.

6:35:06

We just heard from BPOA saying that they have to do faster work.

6:35:10

Well, these officers with with Anne Namora didn't even bother to check that the license plate that was supposedly stolen mapped the car that the plate was on.

6:35:19

And that's my biggest fear because Berkeley PD, if they have shortage of staff, that means they're gonna be doing things in a hurry.

6:35:28

And someone like Brenda Grisham, who might have her license plate stolen.

6:35:32

And thank you.

6:35:33

Thanks, Paula.

6:35:34

Next is Lisa.

6:35:36

Oh, sorry.

6:35:39

One second.

6:35:40

Next is um Alok.

6:35:43

Hello, can you hear me?

6:35:45

Yes.

6:35:46

Yes, um, I'm from District One as a technical lead for more than 100 engineers at various big tech companies.

6:35:53

I'm an expert.

6:35:54

Not only that, I'm an expert in online security space.

6:35:57

I have led trust and safety teams responsible for safeguarding the biggest online platforms, including Gmail, Instagram, Pinterest, and Airbnb.

6:36:07

I had a lot of things to say, but after sitting through the frankly amateurist presentation by the BPD, I have to talk about one item in particular.

6:36:16

They mentioned that the flock data is end-to-end encrypted.

6:36:19

Either they don't understand the meaning or they're like using a completely uh bogus definition of end-to-end encrypted.

6:36:26

If full flock, ice and countless other agencies can access the data, uh access the video footage, ALPR data, then queries on it.

6:36:36

I don't understand what that means for the data to be end to and encrypted.

6:36:41

It's as if it's open to anyone and they can see it.

6:36:43

And I have a big problem with that.

6:36:46

Thank you.

6:36:46

Thanks for your comment.

6:36:52

Next is uh Lisa.

6:37:16

Many of you have home security cameras, and if not you, your neighbors and businesses do, and they can be used to surveil you.

6:37:24

If you've ever been a crime victim, you know why this matters.

6:37:28

Minutes can mean life or death, just ask some survivors.

6:37:32

I know because my dear friend's daughter was abducted, tortured, and died a horrific death.

6:37:38

She ran out of time, her justice denied.

6:37:42

Berkeley is not a magical bubble.

6:37:45

Everyone's safety is right.

6:37:48

Please hear my pleas.

6:37:50

Council members Blackaby and Bartlett, and please vote yes.

6:37:54

Thank you.

6:37:56

Thank you.

6:37:58

Uh next is Rocky.

6:38:06

Yes.

6:38:07

Hi, my name is Rocky with the Berkeley Animal Rights Center.

6:38:11

I oppose contracting with Flock.

6:38:13

Flock um in other jurisdictions.

6:38:15

Flock makes a lot of false claims.

6:38:17

And to illustrate one uh in a different city, Flock reference a violent crime decrease of 22% in the city of Los Angeles trail neighborhood between January and August 2021.

6:38:30

Compared to the same period during 2019.

6:38:32

The reality is between 2021 and 2023, when Flock cameras were operational, crimes of aggravated assault in residential burglary actually rose by 5% across the city.

6:38:43

Flock does not keep us safe.

6:38:44

Another consideration is Flock exploits workers.

6:38:47

Flock, like many other tech companies, is currently using workers living in poor global south countries like the Philippines to review video footage being recorded on its cameras.

6:38:55

And that's shameful.

6:38:56

Do the right thing.

6:38:57

Do not contract with FLAC.

6:38:59

Oh, also end Zionism and Free Palestine.

6:39:03

Thank you.

6:39:06

Next is uh Deb.

6:39:12

Hi.

6:39:14

We've been told that if there are serious concerns, a contract can be dropped.

6:39:19

Data can't be retrieved once it's been released.

6:39:23

There are serious concerns now.

6:39:25

Drop the contract now.

6:39:29

Voting this down might may appear to give less protection, and no one wants that, but there are other ways to increase safety.

6:39:36

You've been requesting that people not laugh, but it should be clear that the privacy requirements and the contracts are so likely to be meaningless that they do become laughable.

6:39:48

It'll be so disappointing if the council fails to follow the recommendations of the PAP.

6:39:53

The supplementals are likely to be inadequate.

6:40:00

Um the council member appears poised to betray his constituents who preferred freedom, pretending that a large enough penalty will protect them.

6:40:05

And again, there are serious concerns now.

6:40:08

Drop the contract now.

6:40:11

Thank you.

6:40:15

Next is Andy Kelly.

6:40:32

Oh, sorry.

6:40:33

Thanks, Adina.

6:40:35

Um this is Red Board Commissioner Andy Kelly calling um to strongly oppose recontracting with Flock tonight.

6:40:41

I was in City Hall still when we did the last update of the surveillance ordinance during the Biden administration, and even then we knew it was only worth the paper it was written on if it was upheld by the courts.

6:40:53

There's not a day that goes by that the Trump administration doesn't ignore not only the law, but judicial order after judicial order.

6:41:01

If they want to access this data, they're going to.

6:41:04

And the nuanced policy conversation happening on the dais is great, but that assumes a federal government that's going to follow the law.

6:41:15

They aren't.

6:41:16

Flock is actively coordinating with ICE.

6:41:19

They are.

6:41:27

And just because Flock might have been used in solving a crime does not mean that crime would have not otherwise been solved.

6:41:33

The statistics are misleading.

6:41:38

Next is caller with a phone number ending in 211.

6:41:48

Hi, good evening.

6:41:49

Well, I do believe in surveillance.

6:41:51

Our business has suppressed cameras that did save us and even uh saved other people in Telegraph Avenue and uh Grant Avenue.

6:42:01

I think in the current government situation, I uh disagree with with this company because it is uh definitely this government have no uh you don't obey the rule of law.

6:42:16

The total law is when you come to that.

6:42:18

And also like to say immigrants did this country uh made his country and uh shame Donald Trump is a monster.

6:42:26

The way he's done a government education um is shutting down education, shutting down RS, shutting down the whole government.

6:42:34

This is a a scandal.

6:42:37

This is the government is a scandal.

6:42:39

Thank you, have a good night.

6:42:41

Thank you.

6:42:45

Next is Kelly Hammergren.

6:42:55

Um thank you.

6:42:56

It's been a long evening.

6:42:58

Um I agree with and thank the many speakers tonight who have tried to convince at least two of you to change their mind to change your mind out of the six who believe you can write a contract that will control Flock.

6:43:14

But you already told us that you made up your mind and that you're going to approve a contract tonight when you extended the meeting to 1.30 a.m.

6:43:24

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

6:43:29

So I'm disappointed.

6:43:32

And that's all I have to say.

6:43:34

Thank you.

6:43:35

Thanks, Kelly.

6:43:38

All right.

6:43:40

Um Brian uh Hoffer.

6:43:46

Good morning, Brian Hofer with Secure Justice.

6:43:49

We oppose mass surveillance systems and urge a no vote.

6:43:52

That said, if this body is moving forward, we support the mayor's supplemental rejecting Flock and returning the defective use policies to the PAD.

6:44:00

You're being played.

6:44:01

Flock's lawyers are running circles around you.

6:44:03

The contract is full of traps and allows Flock to leverage your data in ways your lawyers don't understand.

6:44:09

Saying we own the data is not a safeguard.

6:44:11

It's a talking point Flock relies on while drafting around it.

6:44:15

I didn't expect an agenda packet that made your litigation exposure worse.

6:44:19

Flock Nova is very invasive, and it is surveillance technology as defined by BMC 299, and thus requires ordinance betting.

6:44:27

Consider this your right to cure notice.

6:44:29

Flock is repeatedly concealed, altered, and mishandled data practices, only changing course when exposed.

6:44:35

We appreciate the intent behind Councilmember Bartlett's supplemental, but it misses a lot of red flags.

6:44:40

And like the other two supplementals, it presupposes Flock is trustworthy.

6:44:44

Fifty cities have found otherwise and abandoned Flock.

6:44:48

Thank you for listening.

6:44:53

Next is Della Luna.

6:45:00

I moved to extend time, an additional half hour.

6:45:03

Oh wait, uh second.

6:45:07

Uh that was number and you can take the vote on that.

6:45:13

Um to 2 a.m.

6:45:16

Okay, council member Kessarwani.

6:45:19

Yes.

6:45:20

Tap when is absent.

6:45:25

Bartlett, no.

6:45:27

Traegum, no.

6:45:29

OK.

6:45:31

Yes.

6:45:32

Wackaby.

6:45:33

Yes.

6:45:34

Luna Paras.

6:45:35

No.

6:45:36

Yes.

6:45:37

Um, you're voting yes.

6:45:43

Yes.

6:45:44

Okay.

6:45:46

Uh let's see.

6:45:49

Councilmember Humbert.

6:45:50

Yes.

6:45:51

Mayor Ishi.

6:45:54

No.

6:45:54

Okay, motion fails.

6:46:00

Motion fails.

6:46:00

Oh, yeah.

6:46:01

Requires a two-thirds of the case.

6:46:02

Okay, so rules.

6:46:04

Uh I'm sorry.

6:46:04

So we have so we have seven hands raised still for public comment.

6:46:10

And then we can talk about what happens next, but go ahead.

6:46:14

Okay.

6:46:14

Uh Della Luna is next speaker.

6:46:19

Yes, thank you.

6:46:20

First, I wanted to commend the police accountability board for their work.

6:46:25

Um, it was an impressive presentation.

6:46:28

Um like up to the par what we would expect from our city officials, even though I know it it came from you all.

6:46:37

Um but hearing that the police accountability board only had 24 hours to review the proposal or the document.

6:46:45

This seems like this is dead in the water.

6:46:47

Also, because there's four other supplemental proposals, it also seems that's indicative that this is uh that the council's not ready to pass this.

6:46:57

And I wanted to say that reporting is not a sufficient form of oversight, so increasing the reporting from quarterly to monthly does nothing um unless the reports are going to be fact checked and audited.

6:47:09

So if you're gonna if the city's not putting the energy into actually reviewing the what's in the reports, you're just giving people creative writing assignments, and that's what's happening quite a bit right now with the current reporting.

6:47:22

Thanks, Della.

6:47:23

All right.

6:47:26

Next is a caller with a phone number ending in 4058, and those hundreds of forty-eight years we have not had police survivors uh monitoring our citizens.

6:47:48

Let's hope we don't go for the left hundred uh forty eight years.

6:47:54

Certainly, our police have done a good job, and I can continue to do a good job without a flock.

6:48:03

Hey, no one flock.

6:48:05

I'm Dirk Nine Hart.

6:48:07

Uh and Brooklyn 1952.

6:48:11

Now I'm on the director.

6:48:13

I'm a director of four local corporations, and the best of my knowledge.

6:48:20

None of the fellow directors or none of the consultant of this corporation are done to be in favor of anybody who vote for flock.

6:48:33

Thank you.

6:48:34

Thank you.

6:48:36

Next is uh JL.

6:48:44

Hello, I cede my minute to Brian Hoffer if he's still on Zoom and is wanting to speak.

6:48:50

Oh, sorry, he's already spoken.

6:48:53

Thank you.

6:48:53

Did you want to speak for yourself?

6:48:57

Uh no, thanks.

6:48:58

Okay, thank you.

6:49:01

All right.

6:49:03

Next is Michael Solorio.

6:49:13

Michael, you should be able to unmute.

6:49:22

Michael Solorio.

6:49:32

Last call.

6:49:33

Michael Silorio.

6:49:35

All right.

6:49:36

Uh Tyler Hall.

6:49:42

Hey, can you hear me?

6:49:43

Yes.

6:49:45

Yeah.

6:49:46

Um is a perversion on our daily lives.

6:49:52

Um, regardless of how you behave out in the public.

6:50:00

For a city as small as Berkeley really is in size and square mileage, it is preposterous how much funding goes into this militarized police and enforcement of the law and what isn't even the law sometimes.

6:50:22

Do not continue this contract.

6:50:24

Thank you.

6:50:26

Thank you.

6:50:27

All right.

6:50:29

Next is Anna.

6:50:35

Hello, can you hear me?

6:50:37

Yes.

6:50:40

Um, okay.

6:50:41

I am calling in because I am in opposition to extending the flock contract.

6:50:48

Um I find it incredibly important that we don't um that we don't perpetuate these legislations and policies that allow us and our communities to be in constant fear and in constant stress about our well-being.

6:51:08

I think that we are not if if we're we're not representing our community and who we need both the most vulnerable people to be protected if we are to uh support flock.

6:51:26

Um so please, please do not um vote in in favor of extending a vote contract, um, a flock contract because it is not thank you, Anna.

6:51:41

Okay.

6:51:43

Next is squash A.

6:51:53

I would also like to urge you to vote no on this flock contract and end all contracts with Flock.

6:52:00

When the argument is made that surveillance technology like this and increased policing is the future, and that we need this technology.

6:52:07

We're saying that the future that we want is increasingly alienated in a society built on surveillance and suspicion and not trust and love.

6:52:14

Something that we could be building by investing in our communities more.

6:52:18

Thank you.

6:52:20

All right.

6:52:22

Thank you.

6:52:23

Uh next is um Heron.

6:52:28

Heron, you should be able to unmute.

6:52:32

Hi, can you hear me?

6:52:34

Yes.

6:52:34

I'm urging the city council to vote not to renew its flock contract.

6:52:39

There's no way around the fact that the data collected by Flock is not safe from federal access.

6:52:45

Even without um uh direct access from the federal government to the flock data, it can still be accessed through side door access where police departments conduct the searches and informally share it with the federal government.

6:53:00

Berkeley's Flock data has already been accessed through searches using the word the keywords ICE and CBP.

6:53:07

Um there is also still at the moment backdoor access happening to Flock's data that is currently being reported.

6:53:19

No matter how many edits are made to a flock contract in order to protect the data, um, or fine flock for violating contract or withdraw from the contract.

6:53:28

Flock has proven time and again that they are sharing data with ice and CBP directly and indirectly, legally and illegally, and the only thank you.

6:53:36

Thanks for your comment.

6:53:38

Next is uh Remolt.

6:53:45

Hi, I'm calling from Hong Kong, so I don't really have a say here, but all I want to say is that you know what happened in Hong Kong and with the national security law, and I want to suggest looking at what you want your council and your your lands to look like in the next few years, and and what's actually going to shift that for the better or worse.

6:54:13

Thank you.

6:54:16

All right, next is WBC.

6:54:31

Hello.

6:54:33

Yes.

6:54:34

Hi.

6:54:35

Um, okay.

6:54:35

It's clear some don't understand how insecure and easily accessible and hackable these flock cameras are.

6:54:42

As we speak, one of these cameras is live streaming a children's playground here in the Bay Area to God knows who, likely charging people for access to this live stream.

6:54:53

Please sit with that reality for a moment.

6:54:56

Footage of our children and ourselves for sale on the dark web.

6:55:00

Respectfully, it is very clear that the folks advocating for this tech either do not understand or care how data is stored or secured.

6:55:09

Without proper very expensive and continuous investment in cybersecurity, the data will always be vulnerable, and Flock has proven it is not taking those measures on its end.

6:55:18

I want everyone to consider how many companies we know of that have had data leaks.

6:55:23

These are companies that are incentivized to keep their customer data secure with massive budgets and dedicated cybersecurity teams, and they can't keep their data secure.

6:55:32

Who is kidding themselves that the city of Berkeley has the capability or the budget to do that?

6:55:36

Your time's up.

6:55:37

Next is Evan Flores.

6:55:46

Hello.

6:55:48

Yes, go ahead.

6:55:50

Hello.

6:55:50

Yes, we can hear you.

6:55:52

Oh hey.

6:55:53

Um basically I am here to talk um to disagree with the uh flock proposal.

6:56:01

Um I agree.

6:56:02

I think that it is something that is put a danger to our community, that um it will put a danger to uh our immigrant community, and that basically this um this deal with flock will put will basically uh endanger our entire communities.

6:56:22

Um yeah, uh, I think that's it.

6:56:26

Okay, thank you.

6:56:28

Um still have seven hands raised.

6:56:32

Next speaker is D.

6:56:37

Hi, can you guys hear me?

6:56:39

Yes.

6:56:41

Um I'm calling in against Flock, and there has been some discourse in city council about crime and what to do about crime, specifically about small businesses.

6:56:57

Um about those businesses being PLC owned.

6:57:01

I'm here to tell you that a lot of these small businesses are also immigrant owned.

6:57:06

And we at Copwatch and we organizing, like we have gone door to door to these businesses.

6:57:12

And I will tell you a lot of them are scared and are too scared to talk about Flock even.

6:57:18

They do not want to get deported, and I promise you they will rather have a broken window over getting deported.

6:57:27

Um, please do not continue this contract.

6:57:30

Thank you.

6:57:32

Okay, next is Misha.

6:57:38

Hi.

6:57:39

I would like to uh first allow Marissa Oaksenglish to speak.

6:57:43

Hi, I'm Marissa Oak's English.

6:57:44

I'm resident of District 2, and I'd like to yield my minute to Misha.

6:57:48

Okay.

6:57:49

So I would like to implore the Berkeley City Council to please not renew their contract with Flock and to not contract with Flock or any surveillance companies in the future, in particular over the fact that Flock has repeatedly lied to municipalities about following local regulations, only to then hand over information to DHS, empowering individuals in DHS and individuals who would like to use DHS as their personal weapon against people in vulnerable situations, be it their partners, their friends, their family, or their employees as a form of abuse by allowing Flock to track civilians, be they citizens or not, you would be empowering more people who wish to use their authority over others in harmful ways to track them.

6:58:31

You would be empowering people to be tracked as they go about their day-to-day lives.

6:58:35

You would be empowering people to be tracked as they simply follow the law.

6:58:39

You would be empowering people to be tracked as they want to be nice and a law-abiding citizens, and you would be empowering the Trump administration to stalk us from our homes to our schools to our restaurants to our grocery stores, wherever else.

6:59:11

Do you think you are special?

6:59:13

Do you think the flock can guarantee you things they have not been able to guarantee any other city?

6:59:24

Okay, thank you for your comments.

6:59:26

Uh next is Nikki P.

6:59:30

Um, we're gonna let this person speak, and then we need to talk about what's what's happening next because Thank you.

6:59:36

I'm Nikki P.

6:59:38

I live in District One.

6:59:39

I'm a retired librarian from the city of Berkeley.

6:59:42

The citizens of Berkeley do not want to be under surveillance, and they've been saying so for decades.

6:59:47

The community has a long tradition of resisting trends and technology that even have the possibility of violating your civil rights.

7:00:00

When at the Berkeley Public Library in the city of Berkeley, when RFID radio frequency identification technology was introduced in library materials, the people smoke spoke, and the city approved the library director was fired.

7:00:08

This could be you, council members.

7:00:10

Same concern that was shown for wildlife, and I hope that the same concern that was showed for wildlife today in uh glue traps is shown for the people uh Berkeley in the civil rights of the people of Berkeley thank you.

7:00:26

Okay, okay.

7:00:28

So um there are three different dates that are being brought forward as dates to finish this conversation.

7:00:38

They are April 30th, which is a Thursday, May 7th, which is a Thursday, and June 2nd, which is a Tuesday.

7:00:45

Um yes, those would be special meeting dates to to continue to, and so I want to check in with my council colleagues to see uh if you can check those dates.

7:00:59

So I'm gonna read them again.

7:01:00

April 30th, which is a Thursday, May 7th, also a Thursday, and June 2nd, which is a Tuesday.

7:01:08

When is the contract?

7:01:10

Yeah, I think we need to do April 30th or the May Day.

7:01:14

Um can you speak in the mic so that folks can hear you, please?

7:01:21

We can't do June.

7:01:26

Um the current contract only covers the ALPR cameras, I believe, but it ends um in July.

7:01:37

I see, thank you.

7:01:40

I think those dates were chosen uh specifically because they were before the LPR contract expired.

7:01:47

I got them from our city manager, so um, okay.

7:01:50

So do um sorry, so can you just it would be great to know what days that you're available?

7:01:56

And I'm just gonna go down the line one, two, three, four, five, because it'll be easier.

7:01:59

So go ahead.

7:01:59

Oh, we're gonna do that.

7:02:01

Uh okay, right now.

7:02:02

So I'm sorry, can you just repeat the dates?

7:02:04

April?

7:02:04

April 30th, May 7th, or June 2nd.

7:02:09

Um, yeah, I I'm available any of those days.

7:02:12

I I would prefer April 30th.

7:02:14

Okay.

7:02:15

Sorry, I'm writing this down.

7:02:17

Okay.

7:02:19

Councilmember Taplin.

7:02:21

April 30th.

7:02:22

Is that the only day you're available?

7:02:24

Yes.

7:02:25

Me too.

7:02:26

Okay.

7:02:30

Okay.

7:02:33

Councilmember Traegub.

7:02:36

Uh June is still on the date.

7:02:39

I'm available.

7:02:40

Come on.

7:02:44

Okay.

7:02:46

Councilmember O'Keefe.

7:02:49

Okay, thank you.

7:02:52

Um, Councilmember Blackaby.

7:02:55

All three.

7:02:56

Okay.

7:02:57

Uh okay.

7:03:00

Um sorry.

7:03:03

Okay, good.

7:03:04

It's hard to write, and I can do the May or June dates.

7:03:07

Um, and I have a preference for the June one, but soft preference.

7:03:10

Okay.

7:03:11

Councilmember Humbert.

7:03:12

All three.

7:03:13

Okay.

7:03:18

Okay.

7:03:20

I am really only available in the May or June.

7:03:23

So I think that puts us in June.

7:03:27

Because there's only two that can only do April 30th.

7:03:31

Um, and the rest can do all or June.

7:03:35

So that leaves us with June.

7:03:37

So June 2nd.

7:03:39

It is 126 right now, and we have four minutes.

7:03:43

So um, okay.

7:03:45

So we will continue this conversation.

7:03:49

We have not yet finished all the public comments, so but we won't be able to do that.

7:03:53

We only have three minutes left.

7:03:55

Um, we also didn't get a chance to do questions or deliberation.

7:03:59

Um, so this item will come back for a special meeting on June 2nd.

7:04:06

Oh motion to continue this item to the June 2nd to a June 2nd special meeting.

7:04:12

Second.

7:04:14

Okay.

7:04:15

Uh let's take a vote on that, just so we have it.

7:04:18

Councilmember Kessarwani.

7:04:19

Yes.

7:04:20

Taplin.

7:04:21

Yes.

7:04:21

Bartlett.

7:04:22

Yes.

7:04:23

Trago.

7:04:24

I.

7:04:24

O'Keefe.

7:04:25

Yes.

7:04:25

Blackaby.

7:04:26

Yes.

7:04:27

Munopara.

7:04:28

Yes.

7:04:28

Humbert.

7:04:29

Yes.

7:04:30

And Mary Ishii.

7:04:31

Yes.

7:04:32

Um, okay, so we're almost running out of time.

7:04:34

So I do suspend the rules and adjourn the meeting.

7:04:41

Second.

7:04:43

Motion to adjourn is always in order.

7:04:45

So sorry, say again.

7:04:47

So a motion to adjourn is always in order, so you don't have to suspend the rules.

7:04:51

It's just because we didn't do our off agenda public comments.

7:04:54

Yeah.

7:04:54

But you can adjust.

7:04:55

Still okay.

7:04:55

Yeah, still.

7:04:57

Okay.

7:04:57

All right.

7:04:58

So there is a motion to adjourn on the on the floor.

7:05:01

So and I'm sorry, was there a second?

7:05:04

Folks, folks, we're not finished yet.

7:05:06

Hold on.

7:05:06

Second.

7:05:08

Seconded by Taplin.

7:05:09

Okay, thank you.

7:05:10

Is there any um is there any opposition to adjourning?

7:05:13

No.

7:05:13

No.

7:05:14

Okay.

7:05:14

Meeting is adjourned.

7:05:16

Thank you, everyone.

7:05:22

One bad back and see you in room.

7:05:28

Recording stopped.

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Summary of Proceedings

Berkeley City Council Meeting Summary - March 24, 2026

The Berkeley City Council met on Tuesday, March 24, 2026, at 6:23 PM. The meeting included ceremonial proclamations, a whistleblower report, approval of an interim police accountability director, and extensive debate on a proposed public safety technology package involving Flock Safety. The meeting adjourned at approximately 12:30 AM after continuing the Flock item to a special meeting on June 2, 2026.

Ceremonial Matters & Proclamations

  • Council proclaimed April 12, 2026 as Holocaust Remembrance Day in Berkeley, with the proclamation received by former City Auditor Anna Rabkin. Council also allocated D13 funds for the event.
  • Council honored the life of Elaine Williams Bloom (passed February 24, 2026), a longtime educator and social justice advocate. Her son Russell accepted the proclamation.
  • Council recognized the life and advocacy of Marcia Poole, who passed away; her husband spoke.

Consent Calendar

  • Council approved the consent calendar, which included routine approvals, grant acceptances (e.g., $465,258 for school-based health services), and several ceremonial items with discretionary fund contributions.
  • Item 7 (2845 Woolsey Street Mills Act contract) was pulled to the action calendar for further discussion and later continued to the next regular meeting (April 14, 2026) after the Landmark Preservation Commission did not provide a definitive recommendation.
  • Item 13 (pavement safety improvement project contracts) was removed by the city manager due to omitted proposals.
  • Item 16 (Peace and Justice Commission recommendation on Alien Enemies Act education) was referred to the budget process as it has unbudgeted costs.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Non-Agenda Public Comment: Speakers raised concerns about commission recommendation tracking, zoning enforcement at 2425 Durant, the naming of a street after a colonial spy's wife, the Gaza genocide, the Ashby BART crosswalk, and support for a Go Bond to improve Harrison Park fields. One speaker criticized the collapse of the police accountability board.
  • Consent Calendar Comments: Multiple speakers supported the glue trap ban (item 20), citing cruelty to wildlife. Others urged passage of the Peace and Justice Commission items on free speech and the Alien Enemies Act. One speaker questioned the high number of consultant contracts (item 14) given the city's deficit. Several speakers thanked council for Holocaust Remembrance Day and other community events.
  • Action Items:
    • On the Kathy Lee appointment (item 25), many speakers praised her integrity and urged council to provide strong support to the Police Accountability Board (PAB) and fill vacancies.
    • On the Flock Safety contract (item 26), the vast majority of speakers opposed expansion, citing Flock's history of unauthorized data sharing with ICE, risks to immigrant communities, inability to protect data from federal warrants, and the city's sanctuary commitments. A few speakers (including the Berkeley Police Association and Chamber of Commerce) supported the technology for public safety and staffing needs.

Discussion Items

  • Whistleblower Report (Item 18): City auditor presented findings that a former employee committed the city to a $286,000 ambulance purchase without required council approval. Recommendations included clearer purchasing rules, escalation steps, training, and transparency. Council members thanked the auditor and noted that some changes have already been implemented.
  • Urgent Item: Cesar Chavez Park Renaming: Councilmember Kesserwani proposed amendments to refer the renaming to the Parks, Recreation, and Waterfront Commission for a community process, with Dolores Huerta as one option, and direct immediate removal of signs. Councilmember Ishii noted her separate item covering other Chavez-named sites. The amended item was approved unanimously.
  • Interim Director of Police Accountability (Item 25): Council unanimously approved the resolution to appoint Kathy Lee as interim director. Lee's statement was read; she expressed commitment to meaningful civilian oversight and urged council to fill PAB vacancies.
  • Public Safety Technology Package (Item 26): BPD and Fire Department presented a proposal for a consolidated surveillance system (ALPRs, fixed cameras, community video streams, drones as first responders, and Flock Nova software) via a single vendor (Flock Safety). The PAB presented strong opposition, citing inadequate review time (24 hours for the MSA), lack of a consolidated acquisition report, vendor selection concerns, and conflicts with sanctuary city policy. Four council supplementals were presented:
    • Councilmember Bartlett: Proposed amendments to the MSA including $1 million penalties, termination for convenience, strict data controls, and private right of action.
    • Councilmembers Humbert, O'Keefe, Taplin, and Kesserwani: Six recommendations including increased penalty to $150,000, termination for convenience, limit on anonymized data license, prior consent for changes, council approval for modifications, and anti-circumvention provisions.
    • Councilmember Blackaby: Similar contract amendments plus enhanced reporting (monthly for first six months, then biannual).
    • Mayor Ishii, Vice Mayor Lunaparra, and Councilmember Tregub: Reject Flock contract; refer community video streams and drone policies back for revision; approve fixed cameras with monthly audits; strengthen oversight, data retention, and sanctuary compliance. Council extended the meeting to 1:30 AM to allow full public comment. After extensive testimony, council voted to continue the item to a special meeting on June 2, 2026, due to unresolved issues and insufficient time for deliberation.

Key Outcomes

  • Cesar Chavez Park: Approved referral to Parks Commission for renaming process; directed immediate removal of signs.
  • Kathy Lee Appointment: Approved unanimously as interim director of police accountability.
  • 2845 Woolsey Street Mills Act: Continued to April 14, 2026 regular meeting.
  • Public Safety Technology (Flock Contract): Continued to a special meeting on June 2, 2026. Council will revisit the contract, use policies, and supplementals at that time.
  • Consent Calendar: Approved as amended (items 13 and 7 removed; item 16 referred to budget).
  • Closed Session Settlements: Council approved settlements for two workers' compensation matters (claim numbers BER 2300091 and BER 240044). Council also committed to not invoking Government Code §54957.9 to relocate meetings, per the court ruling in the People's Alliance case.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, thank you so much, everyone. I am calling to order the Berkeley City Council meeting. Today is Tuesday, March 24th, 2026. It is 6.23 p.m. Thank you all very much for your patience. And um, oh, our clerk is on his way back. So sorry about that, I jumped the gun, Mark. Um, if you could please take the role when you are settled. Recording in progress. Taking the role for the regular meeting, Councilmember Kesserwani. Here. Tapman, present. Bartlett here. Trago. O'Keefe. Here. Blackaby here. Here. Humbert, present and Mayor Ishii. Here. Okay. Corma's present. Okay. All right. I have a statement to read out first. With respect to information item number 27 regarding the settlement between Berkeley's People Alliance and the City in Alameda County Superior Court, case number 24C V064 980, California Court of Appeals case number A17245. The City Council hereby commits consistent with the Court of Appeals ruling to no longer invoke government code section 54957.9 as is as it is currently drafted to recess a meeting and reconvene it in a different room or otherwise relocate the meeting. Thank you. Okay. Okay, and also to report out language for the um item number one, the city council met in closed session on March 16, 2026, pursuant to government code section 54956.9D, and provided directions to outside council and approved a settlement by compromise and release with open future medical care as to a workers' compensation matter, assigned claim number BER 2300091, and WCAB case number ADJ 17101925. And item number two, the city council met in closed session on March 16, 2026, pursuant to government code section 5495956.9, subsection D, and provided directions to outside council and approved a settlement by compromise and release with a release of future medical care, or in the alternative by stipulations and with request for award with open future medical care. As to a workers' compensation matter, assigned claim number BER 240044 and WCAB case number ADJ 18 18 386036. Okay. Thank you very much, everyone. All right, we have two serial ceremonial matters this evening. And I am going to start with the Holocaust Remembrance Day Proclamation. It was requested by Councilmember Terry Taplan's office, and they are leading the coordination this year for the Holocaust Remembrance Day event. So thank you very much for that. Today uh the proclamation will be received by Anna Rabkin. Anna, are you here? I think you're here somewhere. There you are. Yay. Who is our city who was our city auditor for 17 years? So thank you very much for your service. The actual day of Holocaust Remembrance Day is April 12th. And also Council will allocate D13 funds for the event at tonight's council meeting. So thank you so much, Anna, for being here with us. Berkeley's 23rd annual Holocaust Remembrance Day. Whereas the Holocaust was the state-sponsored systematic persecution, annihilation of European Jews by Nazi Germany and its collaborators between 1933 and 1945, six million Jews were murdered.

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