I'd like to welcome everyone to this special call meeting by the mayor.

Purpose of the meeting, of course, is to uh do an agenda review.

So uh need a motion to approve or approve the content of the meeting.

All right, move by Mr.

Shoemaker.

I'll say all right, second by Mr.

Tisdale.

Any discussion, Mr.

Schumaker?

Mr.

Mr.

Tisdale, anyone else?

All in favor?

Those opposed.

Motion carries unanimous.

Uh almost.

Not quite, but almost.

Um we'll go ahead and go around the room.

So uh we'll start with Mr.

Tisdale.

Any items you want to discuss or any ideas after reviewing the initial content?

Um sure, Kenny, if you if you don't mind, would you review the public hearing process because we've got a tree hearing on tomorrow's uh agenda, and that's gonna be new for the new council members.

So if you could just go over the format.

All right, as I understand it, uh we'll have opening remarks um by Mr.

Creel.

Uh there is a time uh uh Jerry Crew.

Uh there is a uh time constraint on those opening remarks that he'll have uh somewhere around the 10-15 minute uh mark, then the opposing uh or or the counter uh to Jerry will have their time.

It's also around 10 or 15 minutes.

I'll I'll clarify that uh tomorrow, and then there's a final rebuttal that's uh five or ten minutes, and then we'll conclude that uh hearing with any other uh questions or or comments.

Is that good enough?

So what is the purpose of this public hearing at the council before the yeah?

Good good question.

So the public hearing is just that we call a public hearing to inform any informed uh concerned citizens that want to come to this hearing to to listen uh into this discussion about uh the trees.

I believe that it's a tree removal, right?

Is that what we're discussing?

And to hear uh information to clarify exactly why we are having this uh debate on on 26 trees or 32 trees or however many it is.

That's correct.

This is uh this is an appeal by the individual of the planning commission's decision.

But but then so once that's concluded, then we go into our policy agenda where it's the first thing on the policy agenda.

That is correct.

So so does anything come out of the public hearing?

It's a hearing, just a hearing to listen to both sides.

There's no action that's taken during the hearing per se.

Any action would be taken during council during our council meeting.

Yeah, nor normally had there been no appeal, this would just come on uh normally for the council to approve the recommendation of the planning commission.

Since there's an appeal, it's basically an extra public hearing uh that they're afforded.

So uh they filed an appeal from the planning commission's decision, and that kicked in an extra public hearing before the rule before y'all's meeting.

So that was from the roll straight into it after not the tree committee, the planning commission.

No, the planning commission approved the recommendation of the tree committee.

So it's been through two stages.

They've still appealed.

I think the appeal is just allowed basically for additional public comment.

That's why they uh that's what they the benefit they're receiving by this appeal.

And they'll give their basis of that appeal and and the logic behind their appeal uh during their time uh during this process.

So do we have input during the public hearing?

We are allowed, I think we are allowed some questioning during during the hearing, yes.

Okay, thank you.

You're welcome.

Um Mr.

Tisdale.

Yes, the next item is is item five eye, and this is uh I had two questions.

One was the use of the the X-ray machine, but I spoke with uh Chief Debeck, Assistant Chief D back, and he explained that.

Um but the this deals with a budget amendment, and are we amending the budget because this was something that was ordered in the last fiscal year but was not delivered in the last fiscal year, or is this something the police department because I'm from I'm familiar with the item and we we approved this last year?

Nope.

Five item five I under the consent agenda.

So it really is just what's right.

Why what's what's the reason for the budget amendment?

It was just might have been overlooked in the budgeting process for this this piece of equipment, or it could have been something that was, like I said, ordered in the last fiscal year but wasn't delivered in the last fiscal year.

No, this is uh what I told you earlier, I was thinking about a different one.

That was the Tremble system.

This would be for the uh the bomb team.

So usually we're getting the budget amendment should be because we're gonna get reimbursed by the Federal Government.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

So we'll be in reimbursed for that through the grant.

Okay.

Thank you so much.

Um everybody uses it, including us.

Also, there are two items, item C and item B.

And if if Rachel, if you don't mind, as a contracts manager, could you come up and explain exactly what we're because we're we're moving money from project to project and require some action by the council and approval and so forth.

But for the benefit of everybody else.

I think I understand, but I want to be sure I understand and the others may have questions as well.

Thank you.

It's hard to talk about one without the other.

We have two projects.

We have Tanglewood and Bay Vista.

Both are funded with MCWI grants that are required to be matched by ARPA.

We've completed the Tanglewood project, and we have about 600,000 of ARPA and 600,000 of MCWI money left.

We're moving that money to Bay Vista now.

So those two resolutions, and that would be one right before Z in Z.

It requires us to sign two separate agreements.

And then B B.

Oh, B.

B B is B is a is a different item.

Is a different item.

This deals, and as I recall, we had um approved a similar agency agreement last year, Peter.

I don't know if you recall or not.

I I remember we did something like this last year.

Job training with uh through South Mississippi Planning and Development District, and it focuses on um job skills for older adults.

And under item two specifications, it says the host city, which would be us, agrees to the following training specifications.

Then it lists the position, city hall reception assistant.

So is that a somebody's coming to us?

Yes to help with that.

Okay, that's what I thought.

Right.

No, that's fine.

Right.

And they are limited to 29 hours a week, and then I also believe we have to provide workers' comp coverage uh for the participants.

All of that is provided through SMPD D.

Okay.

All right.

That's all I had.

I just wanted to be sure.

And how you spread that 29 hours of work over the week is I guess up to us.

Okay.

Thank you, gentlemen.

Mr.

Schumacher, any items?

Mr.

Gray?

Mr.

Kruell.

Yes, sir.

So real quick on that Tanglewood Bay Vista deal, the the the if it was uh 1.2 that was shifting?

All together, yes.

Altogether.

Okay.

So was that project not fully funded, or they need that to complete that project?

That project was fully funded, that is left over after completion.

We have done the entire project, and we have 1.2 million dollars left.

So we're moving it.

Next project.

Um, let's see here.

Um, regarding this issue A on the policy agenda that we're gonna get to, and I'm gonna I'm assuming that the our our land ordinance, so there's total of what, how many trees?

Um so regarding this issue A on the policy agenda that we're gonna get to, and I'm gonna I'm assuming uh the our our land ordinance, so there's total of what how many trees now according to the ordinance, if they have a public works permit, they can cut down trees that are within the areas of the infrastructure that they needed to build as long as they have the public works permit.

And from my understanding, they have the public works permit, and that would cover I think 13 trees that they would be able to cut down just under that permit, correct?

Actual specifics is probably as far as the merits of what's going on.

Uh I don't have all the details, probably better just to clarify any of that tomorrow.

Okay.

I don't know.

I know they're allowed to cut down a certain amount since they are exceeding that amount.

That's why they had to go through the tree committee in the first place.

Protected protected tree.

There could be other conditions like the uh the condition of the tree uh that that kind of plays into all of this as well.

So and then the the mitigation with uh replacing the trees, they're wanting to do cedar trees instead, but that's not what the mitigation calls for.

Mitigation calls for it has to be one of the three trees that they gotta do.

We can't be we can't be the cedar tree, correct?

All right, so we'll get into more depth tomorrow with that.

Uh let's see here.

So item five F so that's well, it's a hundred and thirty-four thousand and some change that is that we're short.

I mean, that we won't have, or that we're saving our August two months.

Okay.

That's just reconciliation for the end of the year balance because when we do our budget, it's a it's we start like in June or July.

Okay.

So that's on estimated, and then we have expenses through September, so that's just cleaning up and selling for the new year.

Got it.

Okay.

Uh C tier.

There was one.

All right, so on the routine agenda agenda.

If we could, uh I notice in that routine agenda that we have an invoice from Brian Keith Heard for two invoices for 8,000 apiece for a total of 16,000.

Did we get any reports along with that?

It is can we have those for the meeting tomorrow?

And then also in there, there's a and I'm assuming Jamie, the is some parks and rec stuff.

That's just us giving deposits back.

Is that what we're doing here?

At the very end, I would think yes, sir.

Okay.

That's all I got.

Thank you.

Mr.

Nail.

Uh oh.

Yes, sir.

The commercial weed eaters from steel that we have been doing, what we did was we went ahead and bought five ones that were props ferry, and we're trying them out this year, but we had to go ahead and purchase the other ones too.

Or trying these other five out.

I didn't want to sell the money on the ones that are not tried out.

Or doing those five that we bought the other day, and we're gonna finish up or we'll have a comparison on those.

I mean grade weeding.

That's more in your area of expertise than mine.

That's the reasoning behind the steel versus the five that we bought the other day.

Try them talking to Mr.

That's by the improvement.

Addable.

Right before you bought five.

All right, Mr.

Marshall.

All right.

Any other ideas or thoughts uh for tomorrow that you have on your mind that's not on the agenda that you you plan to try to clarify?

So perhaps uh we can give the administration a little bit of time to do some homework.

Is there anything?

Are y'all all good?

Councilbrook.

We proper time, we've got a couple of litigation matters to deal with an executive session.

We'll we'll get to those in a minute.

I just want to know if there's there's anything on your council report or uh we don't come from left field or right field or or whatever tomorrow.

I I did have one one thing.

Okay.

One question I was gonna ask is the so over on Oak Street, there's a church that's building a big uh addition.

Uh do we know who that contractor is?

And the court I was just wondering if they put up that whole building less than three months, and we can't get carpet loom for the Sanger.

Can we get them to do something?

Can we get them to help us at the Sankor?

Was it the Sanger?

Uh yeah, just I just thought I'd bring that up to see if we can move the Sanger along quicker.

Okay, maybe I can get that answer to you by tomorrow, Councilman.

Gray, you have anything?

Okay.

All right.

Just curious, and it may have been answered or asked already.

But are these pre-meetings before the meeting on Tuesdays?

Is this gonna be something new that we're gonna do every week before we have a council meeting?

I'm gonna add this too.

So the everybody gets a copy of the agenda by Thursday.

And so we have a chance Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and up until our meeting begins on Tuesday, uh, to look at the content.

And a lot of times what happens on Tuesday, we get in here and either you couldn't make that phone call or you couldn't connect with the mayor's office or Rick.

And this is one last chance to be able to close that gap of some communication and clarification so that we have a smoother running meeting and no misunderstandings, or all of a sudden we have a big disagreement that could have been avoided.

And and I think the mayor is attempting to have these on to answer your question, councilman, on on Mondays prior to our uh meeting tomorrow, just to make sure that if he needs to get prepared, he can get those answers for you, or maybe answering them in these meetings, and then everything goes smooth a lot more smoother uh in our Tuesday meetings.

That that's how I I view it.

Does that answer a little bit?

Yeah, that answers my question.

I'm not necessarily saying I agree with the meeting before the meeting.

Some of y'all may, that's fine.

I just feel that's one extra thing that we have to do.

I've since I've been on the council.

If I have an issue, I'll talk to the mayor.

I'll talk to the CAO, I'll talk to the director of a department before my meeting.

I can't say we don't have issues up here during a meeting, but I just thought that's kind of what meetings were for.

And every city, I don't know of any other city, and I may be wrong that has the meetings before the meetings.

I mean, if that's something we're gonna do, uh I don't know.

I I I personally, and I know everybody showed up, everybody's taking time to come here.

But I have a meeting before the meeting, I just don't know that I I'm on board with that.

I think we should be able to air out what we need to air out tomorrow.

And if it's an issue, like I think most of us have done is get with that person prior to the meeting, like you said, when when you get the agenda, look at it.

Contact the CAO with their I've I've never had any issues and get it done, get it handled before the meeting.

That's just my two cents.

Councilman Schumaker, I don't disagree with you, but I I think what has happened, you know, we got new council members, and we're we're trying to find that sweet spot and communicating.

I think it will evolve with that.

I think that's the hope that maybe in a short period of time we'll find that we don't need these meetings.

Just to follow up on that, and and I appreciate the administration looking to move the days.

It's not that Monday's an issue, it's that my issue to follow up on councilman shoemakers is we're meeting on an agenda that's put in place the day before we take up the agenda.

I in my personal opinion, I think it would be better to meet on the day before the agenda is set to discuss the items that are going to be on the agenda that possible possibly are comp uh controversial that we can discuss before they get on agenda rather than after the agenda.

And I I had mentioned that to these guys just for a possibility if we meet before the agenda is set rather than meet after the agenda set before we take it up the next day.

So all of those are open.

This was just the mayor's first time.

This is the second time we've had this meeting.

So as we discuss this, everything is uh is on the table right now.

Um we go into executive session.

Sure.

Greg.

Umly right now I've had discussion with multiple of y'all about some additional money that's been left over from the CDD.

So what I've asked is Mr.

kind of come in and lay out everything.

First kind of take a look and see what's out there, right?

For those.

So let our talk and we'll see.

And uh this is just something hopefully is beneficial for everyone to be able to see.

Dates, the times, and what available things.

I get to carry the mic.

So I know in previous meetings there's been a lot of talk about you know the CDBG funds and how to be spent and et cetera, et cetera.

The point I'm what we're trying to explain tonight is when I know Susan's mentioned repeatedly that you know it's a 30-day comment, 15-day public hearing, all of these steps that we were that go into changing anything that is in our um whether it be the action plan or at this point the consolidated plan that we haven't that's already in place.

So when we say that, and I know there's been talk with the CDBG fund, the CV, the COVID funds, that there is some left over, and there are two different thought processes on how that could be spent.

We have submitted both ideas um to HUD.

I know one was for you know, water bottle fillers at various locations, and then another is potentially a sign.

We submitted to HUD, we have not heard a response back on whether that would be eligible.

But if depending on this is how you would go about changing that given the time constraints that we are up against, given the money expires um in June.

So if this happened, and starting what would happen a week from today, would be sending over the the process of hey, what are we gonna do?

This is the plan to from we the mayor and the the mayor, Rick, they would tell Susan and myself, we don't make the decisions on how the money is spent.

That is completely up to the administration, you know, as it goes forward.

We have to have a public hearing.

So we would submit the notice to be put in the newspaper to say there will be a public hearing on a given date.

So in this case, send it out on Tuesday, it'll be published on Sunday, which would be the 30th of November.

Okay.

I have to get to the meeting.

So in this case, the hearing would be on December 16th.

So that is when our hearing is is held.

After that, there is a 30-day comment period.

So we have to count the 30 days from there.

Comment period would end on the 16th.

We then have to take all of the ideas, everything put together to then combine it to get to the council to have it on the agenda for approval.

That is also giving us time because even if we get all of these comments, we have to get approval to HUD that it's even something that can happen.

Then we'd have to send if it passes, y'all agree this is what we're gonna do, it goes to HUD for final approval.

They may take up to 45 days to give us their final approval.

Okay, so right now we're in January.

Thank you.

I'm sorry.

Okay.

All right.

So we get approval.

Um we get approval from HUD.

The earliest that we could begin to procure, because everything with federal dollars must go through the procurement process, would be February 9th, in which case we have to advertise that this is going to be procured, which gives another 30 days for it to be procured.

Thank you.

That brings us to we're now in March.

Somewhere around the 18th.

Just type of project and what we're looking to do.

April, we're not able to do anything because that is during everything is being advertised.

If it's a construction process, a project or anything that requires environmentals, design, then this that would be occurring, you know, potentially.

And even advertise for construction get to May.

The deadline for all of these funds be spent and closed out, which means we have to have all the receipts back submitted to HUD is June 1st.

So that doesn't give you a great deal of time, depending on what you're wanting to do.

If if that gives you a little bit more clarity.

All while you're also going to be doing the HVAC at the Groich Center and some of the other projects that we have going as well.

So approvals may we got 30 days to have everything spent closed out and receipts.

So would because the money, the COVID money expires.

So would we would we pay for it and then use that money to reimburse so all of these funds are on a reimbursable basis, which means we would enter into the contract, the company would go and do the work, they submit their receipts to us where we have to validate, you know, everything was done, how it was supposed to be done, make sure it's within the you know, they're following what they're supposed to be doing for oversight.

Then we're able to do a voucher into IDIS to then have the money drawn down to them.

So we would have less than 30 days once we get approval to have it.

Potentially, yes.

If it's and we're at the mercy of the contractor to get us the receipts and do the work and just can't do any.

So the two things that Susan is put up right now is a digital sign at the Groit Center that I've heard from multiple council members that we were talking about.

And then the discussion based off COVID funds was also those waterless or touchless water fountains throughout the parks, the wreck buildings, and the city buildings throughout the city.

So we've submitted both of those up to see which one that they would be open to to see.

If we go the direction of the sign, there's gonna have to be an a design put into that, which is gonna take longer as well.

Not as much on doing the plumbing for the other.

So we're gonna see what it is and present that when the mayor gets back, and then see which way the council wants to go.

It will be, but that's no that all of it will be covered underneath.

But I have no idea how much a sign costs right now either.

I know how much money we have.

Question how much money do we have?

That's left.

About 300,000.

So even doing the the water fountains, we could run into the same issue if they have problems.

No, I I agree.

No, I totally agree.

And uh so those are things that we've got to take a look at, but what we're looking at is what are gonna be some of our options, and if you have other ideas, please let me know.

Those are just the two that we submitted because we have to submit that up to HUD for them to say yes, go forward and we're approve these projects for that.

So that is an actual timeline.

Yes, sir.

That that's yes.

We're in that process.

Well, we're waiting on HUD, and then what we'll do is have more thorough discussion tomorrow, and ultimately it'll be up to the council to tell me which what y'all approve and don't approve, and then we'll know which direction to go.

So once we get the answer back from HUD, then we'll make sure that you're aware of it.

And if it's both, then we get a choice.

If it's one or the other, then you get a choice if you want to go forward with that or not.

So those are what we're looking at.

And if you have other suggestions, we're very open to listening to what what else I'm constrained.

I I I agree with you, sir.

Since they're COVID funds, I mean they've got to be spent on this by this deadline.

And there's no carry the strings that are attached to them based off the COVID side of the house.

Now, question.

I thought this money can only be spent at the growing center.

I don't think we've ever talked about it doing air conditioning.

Okay.

Yeah, oh, I didn't know if the other 320-something had to be spent at the growth center, but it can be different places for for the uh with the touchless waterfront.

Okay.

Also, receive programs all are myself when we are working towards that program that we've touched up.

One in the black.

You sure he was wrong with me.

I know.

I don't believe nothing that may until he's a politician.

We may need to have a two uh Wednesday meeting, Monday and Wednesday.

Go ahead.

Go ahead, Mr.

Marshall.

Uh how long have we had this money?

How long have we had this money?

The full amount.

How long have we had it?

I'm reading 2019.

Is that correct?

And we sent over the five amendments that we did.

And we've had this money for a while, and we've done five amendments to try to spend this money.

Either NIMBY got involved or HUD shut it down.

And then they told us the money was going away.

That we could spend it, so we stopped.

Then they came back, they extended the program.

They came to the city, met with the staff, the mayor, and said, let us help you spend this money.

That's how we came up with the growage project.

And here we are now.

So just help us understand this.

Every time you did it five times before, so every time was this lengthy process?

Yes.

To do it, and that's why it took so long.

It takes any time you do any kind of amendment, you have to go the process.

You have to do the 15-day notification, the public hearing, a 30-day comment period, then come to the council for approval, and then send it to HUD.

It's not like we didn't want to do anything with this money.

We have tried.

We're just trying to figure, you know, at five different projects, just HUD wouldn't let y'all do.

And they would tell us the dumbers weren't there, the COVID dumbers, because everything had to tie it.

Well, nobody was spending that money.

What were the other projects?

Pardon?

The other amendment.

What kind of projects were they?

What were they?

Well, we were we were dealing with uh we were addressing the homeless situation.

We were doing a uh a resource center.

We started out with uh rental assistance because everybody was without jobs.

HUD shut us down.

They said you couldn't pay arrears, so they shut us down for 18 months.

Then they told us we could start it again.

Well, by that time there was other monies available.

And that's one reason why we submitted both of those to HUD, and we're waiting on that to come back to say move forward this direction, this direction, or both directions are good.

We don't want to give y'all any thing to vote on that we know is not gonna be approved by the case.

And like we just said, uh, we don't know even if we start tracking this, we don't know what the other side is gonna come back and tell us at any minute.

So we're we're trying to put this in the hopper to move forward.

It'd be nice if we can do both these projects, but you know, we'll see where it goes.

Mr.

Marshall.

Okay.

The when we talked to HUD, we we did a phone conversation with them.

And the program that we're gonna be trying to work on, the housing rehab program actually qualified it.

We're talking directly to HUD.

I believe it was you was on the phone, Mr.

Tisdale and Mr.

Clavin, right?

They approved it on verbally.

They said, Yeah, that could be done if you can get it done in time.

Okay, so we know that'll work.

So can we send a third one out?

If we don't do but one house, 30 days, if if it didn't knock out one house, that'll help.

We lose the money.

That's why we submitted that, and that's why this plan that I thought we talked about last week was to put that program together.

The program together, six, and then move forward with all the funding.

It takes time to put a program in place, Mr.

Marlon.

Well, we're asking is that we got um we got Big Bay Mission.

Can we let's ask them?

Can you do something if they got a 45-day or 30-day time frame?

Could he go in and do one floor, one house?

We have money left over unit, we're gonna lose it.

Good question.

I don't know who the answer.

I I know I do respect uh Ms.

Pickage's uh expertise, and uh can it be done?

We we won't know until we uh engage with something or initiate something.

Let's prove it.

Uh but we're we also gotta listen uh to Susan.

So if we put a third program in place, this rehab emergency or the the uh rehab, is that a possibility to use this money for?

Is that possible?

Yes, absolutely.

Don't run Paula off now.

I mean, you got one person that's come in here.

I mean, you know, she she's new, she's gonna be great, but you got her, she's still learning the IDIS system.

She's gonna have the co the growth center, she's got the road project, she's putting this in place.

Yes, if if the mayor and rick say let's do it, let's do it.

That's another thing for her to have to do.

Okay, that's it's a backup.

In other words, you got you got one backup, do another backup.

When you get through, we say you come up you don't spend 200, that's another hundred thousand.

And I know for a fact, you guys, dear people.

We went to their houses.

If we can go if back baby can go in and fix one house, you would there, Mr.

Cloud.

Why throw it away?

Why send it back to the to the federal government?

We could take it in and do that bathroom floor, the kitchen floor, throw a roof on, be through with it.

So let me ask the question.

Uh Ms.

Pickage, could we have a backup plan ready if these two fall through, or are we gonna uh again run in your words run her off if we try to put a backup plan?

I say it's we keep I'm gonna be professional.

We keep talking about this.

Let's start the process, see what happens.

Okay, it's quite because by June, it's going away.

Right.

I agree with that, and that's what I'm saying.

Just call back by mission and tell them to do it.

Everything has to be procured.

Right.

We understand that.

We understand we're just getting it.

We're just getting up getting an uh uh just getting an element in the shoe, just in case.

This is fine with the council.

This is what I will ask.

Request for our two courses of action currently.

Tomorrow, we'll send the other one up.

We should get the approval back within 4872 hours on the other two.

Same thing on that one.

Or disapproval, either way.

So what we'll do is if we get it back tomorrow or Wednesday, then I'll let you know this one is good.

This one was good, or this one was bad, this one was bad.

Then we'll work on the other.

I understand what you're saying.

I still say going forward as we discussed and actually putting a silent plan, build these homes, fix these houses, is gonna be the best bet for all of us.

Because if we don't, there is a significant risk of losing money on there.

Right.

If we can go forward with the two courses of action in which we're in reference to currently, then also we'll submit that tomorrow for those, and then take a look and see which one the council decides to approve.

All they have to do is just tell the administration, we don't approve it up front.

We go through the process and then approve it because you got the citizens' input at the public hearing and then approval.

So unless y'all change the way the citizens participation plan, it doesn't have to be approved ahead of time.

So if I may ask a question here, to me, the pivotal question is because the process was outlined, and at the at the end of the process, whenever that was the last public hearing and all that information is is compiled, then that money has to be expended by June 1st.

So you if I recall correctly, I may not.

So you've got basically if everything worked perfectly.

You better have, if you got one house, that house better be done within 20 working days.

Right?

Yeah, with no termites or anything you don't find.

Because if those dollars are not expended, you're gonna lose that money.

And I'm I'm thinking, based on what I heard, you got you have to follow the process.

I think we all understand that.

I think Mr.

Marshall, your point is, well, if we have 20 days, what can we do in 20 days?

And if uh all of our fingers are crossed, we might get a house done.

Applicate applicants.

I think well, if right for those applicants, and all of that you can have that.

Right, but that that would be part of the timeline, right?

It's just the fact that we've got regardless of what you want to do.

If it can't be done and completed, construction started and ended within 20 days, you're not getting paid for that.

And what happens if that contractor says, cheese, we're gonna miss it by two days.

Who's gonna pay that contractor for the 20 days they've done and for the you know what I'm saying?

So we're gonna need more meetings, gentlemen.

Be be ready.

We're gonna need more meetings.

Right, Mr.

Shepherd.

So anyway, all right, but I don't want to be sure I understood.

Let me give Mr.

Marshall final word on this, and then we're gonna go into executive session.

Mr.

Marshall, it's just an option.

Can you just submit it like you just said, just go on submit it, and we'll hash out if we possible with possible if not if not if it's not approved, then you see even going any further.

If it says okay, yeah, then we work out the logistics of it.

But give you in the pipe right now.

All right.

Thank you, gentlemen.

Um thank you, Susan.

All right, I need uh I need a motion that the council go into closed session for the purposes of examining the necessity to go into executive session, discuss uh potential litigation uh in a matter uh uh uh potential litigation with Airbnb, and the other is potential litigation with me case.

I'll make that motion.

Second made and second at all in favor all opposed, motion carries.

Need a motion that the council conclude and close uh session and reconvene in an open meeting.

I'll make that motion.

All right, made by Mr.

Tisdale, seconded by shoemaker.

All in favor, those opposed.

All right, need a motion to go into executive session.

I'll make that motion.

All right, made by Mr.

Tisdale, second by Mr.

Gray, all in favor.

Those opposed, we're in executive session.

All right.

Uh gentlemen, I need a um motion that the council conclude uh the executive session and reconvene as an open meeting.

I'll make that motion.

Second.

All right.

I'd like to note that there was no action taken in executive session.

Uh any other business.

There being none, I'll make that motion.

Made by Mr.

Tisdale, second by Mr.

Creel.

Any discussion?

All right.

Those opposed end of the session.