All right, we have a quorum right now.

Um, I don't know the status of council, but we have three of us here.

So I mean I go ahead and call to order this session special fiscal committee um here on February 27th, uh Hopi Stoffsburg District 3.

Is about Pete Mark Smith Council Member District 1?

Question map, WM calling on this in Deputy Burke.

Jeff McKim City controller.

Lisa Lane or Council of Junior.

Thank you all for coming here early this morning.

Um so the agenda um was distributed on Wednesday.

Uh so we need approval for that.

Uh as we discussed at our last meeting, we're kind of gonna try to have these two shorter meetings a month, one focused on council kind of budget related stuff and one focused on reports from administration um and more controllers office kind of stuff.

So this is the council related stuff with the main focus of dealing with our mornings of Mr.

Rawlowing Dave.

Um only DK.

So I haven't drawing any of my this morning either.

Um anyway, so uh to look at this prioritization prioritization data uh both from the December meeting and collected from the Google Forums for some analysis and refinement, uh talking about the March deliberation session, honestly my yeah, and then taking public comments about that, uh, and then just any notes about adding anything to the fiscal committee calendar, um, and then adjournment.

And so the goal is to keep like two adjourned 9 30.

Uh so if somebody was willing to move to approve the agenda.

Move to approve.

Sorry.

I don't know.

This is the is when you don't have to.

I'm not maybe pretty data.

Thank you.

Great.

So move and seconded.

Uh all in favor.

Great.

Um, so and if somebody was willing, maybe Colleen, could you timekeep me a little bit and let me know when it's 9 15?

Okay, so we can make sure to go to public comment by 9.15 uh to still have a few minutes for public comment and then some time for the calendar.

Um, so my thought on this data and this um analysis is kind of an overall goal of being able to um have an effective deliberation session where we talk about this with all nine council members because it conversations like that can get kind of crazy.

So I thought some of the things we could do was consider whether the suggested outcomes were actually outcomes, and and if they're not, consider figuring out how we can rephrase that concept to encompass an actual outcome that meets the intent of that feedback.

Um group like outcomes together, and how we should evaluate what bucket they might go in and how we should consider them in terms of that like uh priority.

Um, and then you know, should outcomes be from one bucket to another.

So one of the uh so my example of that, for example, actually, this is an easy one.

Make homelessness brief rare and non-repeating was under housing and homelessness, and was also under um public safety.

Public safety, and and they ranked very highly in it ranked very highly both of them.

Obviously, like council is a body um wants to prioritize that, but then like how we do that.

And so, like I highlighted like a few of those things that I thought were really similar.

Um, but I took about five minutes and pulled out the ones that were easy.

So um, and I also kind of figured that since it's just four of us, like literally any what if people have to say about the data, and we can just uh have a more open ended feedback session as opposed to types of feedback, if that makes sense.

So what observations people make well, just uh along the same lines as your example, um under environment waste reduction and creating a composting program or the same thing, pretty much.

So I think those should be one is a little more specific, but you reduce waste by composting.

Yes, and so that brings up another um kind of nesting of outcomes.

Um so my goal is to take notes on what you guys said or say um because I don't think that we should think decisions about that in and of ourselves, but if we bring them up as ideas.

Let's see, then waste reduction.

If you add the two points on composting, it brings it up to one of the top ones perfect.

But and that's like the kind of discussion that I think we should have at the council level.

Like this is an observation that these go together and then it increases in priority list how you look for that in terms of the overall prioritization.

You know, I mean I thought that that was the type of thing we could write.

I mean, what are we doing here?

Well, to recommend that right, to recommend that to the full council, but to not decide like let's provide these things like this.

You know what I mean?

I don't think that I'm I understand what you're saying, but I think that we could be much more efficient if we if we think about and present uh a more uh uh synthesized view of the survey.

And I would argue that this is an example where we could just synthesize it.

You know, if we want to, but I mean, I guess I agree.

I think as long as you're doing it transparently and with opportunity for like objective, like you just like take a different basic makeup mode where you're like, hey, here's what we think made sense or something we're missing, otherwise, let's go forward with this.

I guess the question is then how do we want to present that at this group meeting?

Because I was expecting to kind of present it more like we thought these things went together, council member, you know, uh uh as well council member Pon Smith, whichever in that meeting pointed out that combining these two things raises the priority level um to top priority.

Uh, should we put waste reduction through composting on our like fuller?