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Today's hearing is on Docket 0968, an order authorizing the City of Austin Office of Housing to accept and expend $30 million from the inclusionary development policy fund.

This matter was sponsored by Mayor Michelle Lou and is referred to the committee on May 13, 2026.

Today, I don't have any of my council colleagues' list just yet, and I don't have any letters of absence.

If that changes, I will um let everyone know.

Good morning, everyone.

Thank you to everyone who has joined us.

Today we are here to consider an order authorizing the mayor's office of housing to accept and expand 30 million inclusionary development policy fund.

Inclusionary zoning was established in 2000 to support the reduction and preservation of affordable housing through new market rate development.

And the mayor's office of housing has overseen the administration administration of IDP funds since 2013.

I would like to thank the officials joining us this morning from the mayor's office of housing, Rick Wilson, Christine O'Keefe, and Andy Feldman, as well as many staff members who stewarded affordable housing investments through the IDP fund over the years.

Thank you for your work to support affordable housing in Boston.

And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Chief Gilly Dell, who's been a leader in our um in our um city, and um I look forward to um chatting with her about you know everything that we're gonna be able to do with this money.

Um I'm looking forward to discussing this work as well as the process and the impact of these investments because the council's consideration of this authority authorization provides an important opportunity for oversight, but also excitement about what's coming to our neighborhoods.

Residents across Boston are struggling to pay their rent and find housing they can afford.

We are facing a challenging moment with economic pressures that every city across the country is also facing.

That means we also use to have to use every tool in the toolbox to support housing our um city urgently needs.

We must continue to think proactively and properly about how we can support residents' ability to live in the city affordably, IDP is part of that, and um there are many policies that contribute to the school and look forward to understanding the role that inclusionaries are in place in our housing strategy this morning.

So um, first work uh we have been joined by counselor ed clan.

Welcome, council.

Um, we are going to go to um the panel who is going to present a series of slides and then we'll get into questions.

And obviously, I said this before, but I'm losing my voice, so um, so as much as you guys can talk, the better.

Thank you.

Thank you, counselor.

Um, I'm gonna share my screen.

Hopefully that worked.

Yes, we can see it.

All right.

Um, good morning, uh, counselors, and thank you for having us here today.

Uh, for the record, my name is Rick Wilson.

I'm the director of administration and finance at the Mayor's Office of Housing, uh, and I'm joined by Christina O'Keefe, the director of neighborhood housing development, uh, and defilement housing policy manager at MOH.

We're here today requesting your approval to accept and expand up to 30 million dollars in inclusionary development policy or IDP fund revenue.

Um, revenue is a result of the city's inclusionary development policy, which requires that developers of private residential buildings with 10 or more units.

Um, create affordable housing units on site uh or off-site or contribute to the IDP fund pursuant to a formula.

Um if the project is meeting the IDP requirement by providing units on site, um in other words, in the same building.

13% of the units must be set aside as income restricted.

If the project is providing units off-site or making a payment in lieu of units.

Um the requirement is 15% or 180% income restricted depending on the zone.

And the payment in lieu of unit formula also varies by zone from $200,000 to $380,000 per unit.

IDP, as you mentioned, Council, IDP was first implemented in 2000 and has been updated several times over the years.

MOH took over administration of the IDP fund from the BPDA in 2014 and took over implementation administration of all other aspects of the IDP program in 2024.

And just to clarify, you know, we're talking about why we're talking about IDP and not inclusionary zoning or IZ, is because the revenue that we're considering today is being generated by projects subject to IDP, not IZ.

So as I mentioned, IDP fund revenue comes from payments in lieu of units on site or off site, which are, and those payments are typically made in installments, and also from smaller one-time partial unit payments that result from the calculation of the number of required units.

IDP fund revenue can be used for the creation and preservation of long-term affordable housing units.

IDP fund units can be homeownership, rental, cooperative, or other forms of permanent and transitional housing, and all IDP fund units are subject to an affordable housing restriction.

As far as income targeting goes, rental units created using IDP funds have a maximum income limit of 70% of the area median income or AMI, although many units are restricted to lower incomes.

Homeownership units can be can go up to 100% of AMI, although with any within any given project, at least 50% of the units must be restricted to 80% AMI or less.

For the administration of the fund, MOH tracks, we're responsible for tracking and invoicing IDP fund obligations.

Treasury department receives and deposits those funds.

MOH is responsible for awarding and dispersing funds competitively to projects through our annual funding round, disposition processes, or special initiatives like the acquisition opportunity program.

This slide shows the impact of the inclusionary development policy since its inception.

These numbers here are units permitted or completed.

Over the past 26 years, IDP has resulted in the creation of over 8,800 affordable units, including 6,800 rental units and 2,000 homeownership units.

Over 4,400 of those units have been on site.

The yellow highlighted section shows the units associated with the IDP fund.

So nearly 3,800 total new units supported, including 3,000 new rental units, 800 new homeownership units, and 441 rental units preserved.

And we've invested 100 over 188 million dollars in those units.

So IDP has really been an extremely important tool for creating and preserving housing, affordable housing in Boston and promoting mixed income neighborhoods.

So let's turn to the IDP fund itself.

Since MOH took over administration of the fund in FY14, we have collected over 217 million dollars.

Based on signed IDP agreements and projects in the pipeline, we are projecting to collect another 26 million dollars over the next two fiscal years, and that is uh that's the subject of the accepted expend request, and that will result in revenue of 243.5 million dollars total revenue.

We have to date we have committed funding to 189 million, almost 190 million dollars through this fiscal year, and we expect to commit another 36 million dollars to projects over the next two fiscal years.

Um we also allocate a small percentage of IDP fund revenue to for program management expenses.

Um, you add those two up and you get total uh projected uses of 237.8 million dollars, which leaves a balance of about 5.8 million that we will make available through our upcoming uh annual funding round.

Um the next few slides just highlight some recent IDP fund projects.

Um we thought it'd be helpful to show some examples of the different types of projects uh we use this funding for.

Um the first is Stonely Brooklyn uh in Jamaica Plain.

This is a 45 unit home ownership project with five artist live work studios.

Um and this project was just completed uh in August of last year.

Um next is 775 Huntington Avenue in Mission Hill.

This is a 12-story mixed use mixed income project with 112 units and ground floor commercial space, and this is in construction right now.

Um also in construction is 95 Everett Street in Austin Brighton, an 88 minute unit mixed income uh rental project, and this is expected to be completed uh summer of 2027.

This is planned Nubian of 75 to 81 Dudley Street and Roxbury with a 15 affordable homeownership units and a community space.

Um that's expected to be completed in spring of next year.

Uh next 376 to 384 Blue Hill Avenue or Marshou Plaza in Dorchester.

Um, 18 affordable condos, ground floor retail, a community space, and an outdoor green space.

Uh and that project is expected to start construction um in the next few months.

Uh and finally, um parcel 12C or 290 Trimont Street in Chinatown, uh a mixed income project with 111 um restricted rental units and ground floor commercial space.

Um and that project was just awarded funding out late last year.

Um so that concludes our presentation.

Um, once again, counselors, we want to thank you uh for your support of the inclusionary development policy and the IDP fund.

Um as federal funding for affordable housing has declined over the past several decades.

Um IDP along with linkage and CPA have become extremely important tools to support the creation and and preservation of affordable housing in Boston, and we're happy to answer any any questions you may have.

Thank you so much.

Um I'm gonna go first to my colleague, Counselor Flynn.

Um, Councillor Flynn, I'm gonna give you six minutes, but you can always come back for a second round.

Thank you.

Um thank you, Rick, for your testimony for you for your leadership.

I was um two minutes late for the um start of the hearing.

I heard your entire uh presentation, Brick, but I do want to apologize for everyone for for me being late.

Um I don't I don't mean any disrespect by being late.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Um Rick, can you re-explain?

I guess the the IDP percentages, just so we're all clear.

Can you highlight those again and tell us um what the difference is between why one is a little higher than the other, please?

Um, yeah, counselor, happy to.

Uh, I'm actually gonna see Andy, do you mind taking that question?

Andy, I can't hear you.

I don't know about others.

Yeah, I can hear you, Andy.

Is it a little mute button, the mute button on the microphone, maybe on the headset?

No.

Is it any better?

Yes.

Okay, apologies, apologize.

I also can't figure out how to stop sharing my screen, by the way.

Once I take that away from me, I'm happy to stop sharing my screen.

Okay.

Um, yes, thank you.

Thank you, counselor, for the question.

So, under the IDP policy, the on-site percentage uh required was the 13% across the board.

Uh, but then if a project was doing either the off-site unit, so so doing their IDP units in a completely separate building, or doing the payment, you're doing the payment instead of any units, uh, depending on whether they were in zone A or B or C.

Uh sometimes the calculation would be 15 or 18 percent, uh just spending on depending on which zone uh geographic zone that they're located in.

Thank thank you, Andy.

And just a quick follow-up.

I had a lot, I have a lot of development in my in district too.

Oftentimes, or in several cases, I should say, the off-site, and I supported this along with Congressman Lynch and Senator Collins, Representative Beale.

But oftentimes we supported um off-site to support BHA units in public housing.

Can you tell me, Andy, about that process and uh what the difference is in terms of percentage and why, and again, I support that, but tell me why that's an effective policy.

Sure, sure.

Thank you, counselor.

So um, you know, as is mentioned, the the IDP policy uh you know offers three different options for developers to meet their obligations.

So as Rick mentioned, one is on site, so in the same building where they're building the market rate units.

Uh the second is off site, so in a um in a different building somewhere located within the vicinity of the of the main project, and the third is by making payments uh into the IDP fund, as Rick shared, which then uh you know Chris Chris Chris's team is able to you know allocate an award to to affordable housing developers.

And so I think you know, we're we've always been open to discussing with developers which of those options or even multiple options for a given project might be the most effective and appropriate.

Uh sometimes there can be different uh advantages or disadvantages to those in terms of uh construction costs and in terms of opportunities in the in the neighborhood to collaborate with other developers, like some of the projects that you mentioned, counselor.

So we're always very open to discussing and looking for the the best housing outcome, uh whether that's one or multiple options of the of the obligation methods.

Thank you.

That's that was the case most several times in um uh Miriel and McCormick uh public housing um development in South Boston, where it was it was run down unfortunately, but um we came together to rebuild it, but some of the funding from um development in in the city or in or in district two or in South Boston, I should say, um is going to that development.

Um I think it's uh but but that's a critical financial piece though, isn't it, Andy or Rick?

Yeah, I was just gonna add, you know, I think um it it's always uh, you know, we're always looking for cases where you know we have we have a very healthy pipeline, thanks to the great work of Christine's team um and our and our affordable housing developers out there.

We have a very healthy pipeline of affordable housing projects and we have limited resources.

So when we see a project that has a need for funding, right?

I think we're always looking for those potential matches of of market rate ID projects that are gonna trigger IDP, um, and you know, considering whether it would make sense instead of having units on site to be able to provide really needed funding for uh for a nearby a nearby project which takes some pressure off of our um other you know resources that we have for affordable for affordable housing.

So absolutely, like Andy said, I mean, um, you know, we're we're we'll take it however we can get it.

We need affordable housing, however we can get it.

Uh you know, part of the ID the purpose of the IDP um program is to create mixed income communities, which is why we, you know, the that's why there's that sort of uh requirement that off-site projects be within um the vicinity of the of the market rate project.

Um, but yeah, we're you know, we're we're we're analyzing it from multiple perspectives and trying to get the best uh what's best for for the city and for the for the community.

Thank thank you, Rick and and Andy, but I I also failed to mention I also want to say thank you to Christine for her important work, her her important leadership as well.

Um Madam Chair, I was gonna ask one more question, but I don't want to I don't want to do it if if my time is short.

It's just uh, so you know, ask away.

I could ask one more question.

Okay.

So maybe I'll ask the question to Christine, um Christine, when the IDP money is moved into public housing, um to support public housing.

Then what is the mayor's office of housing's responsibility in terms of um working with BHA?

Tell me about what is that relationship, or or do you or does the money just go into BHA and then BHA um moves forward without without much input or um uh follow-up, follow up is the key, but can you explain a little bit about um how you follow up with BHA on off-site into BHA developments?

Yes, good morning.

Thank you, Counselor.

Um, I would say that we have a very close working relationship with the BHA on all of their projects that we do, but the projects that um are direct designations to a BHA project.

The MOH team does not have much involvement in the underwriting piece of it.

They have their own team and staff of it.

We, of course, are making sure that the allocation from the IDP fund is the accurate and correct amount that should be going to the project.

So we monitoring that sense, but the BHA is working directly with the developer of that project, such as Mary Allen McComic.

But um, and Rick, you may know more about the monitoring piece of it in the sense of compliance with the units after lease up.

Yeah, I think if you know, I I think it's an important distinction um the when it's an off-site uh an off-site obligation where like you said, uh Christine, the money is going the the funding is going directly from the microwave developer to the off-site project that actually does not flow through through MOH at all, as opposed to making a payment into the IDP fund, and then we were dispersing it in that case when it's an IDP fund project project that we are dispersing.

We of course are we're doing all of our um, you know, our typical monitoring that we would do for any any project that we fund underwriting, it's uh uh etc.

Um, and the ongoing the ongoing monitoring because we will have a restriction on the property, but um, but if it's a direct if it's a direct um designation uh to to a BHA project, I think it works a little differently.

Thank you.

Thank you, Councillor Flynn.

Um, are you good on questions for now?

Yes, yes, I am.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um, perfect.

I wanted to ask um specifically about you mentioned that there would be 36 around 36 million in expenditures over the next few years.

I wanted to ask if you had a list of projects that that would benefit in neighborhoods.

Yeah, yeah, we do, and and um happy to happy to provide that um um to your office.

Um I know you had requested that I sent it to IGR.

I'm not sure if they they added to your interview.

No, I have it.

I was just curious if you could read it into the record.

Oh, sure, of course, yeah.

Yeah, so and just to um to um to clarify, you know, the the funding that we're asking for right now, the 30 million dollars that we're asking for authority for um is based on our projected revenue over the next you know one to two years.

Um but because affordable housing projects take two, three, four years to to progress from the time that we award it, um, in essence, most of that funding is already actually allocated to to projects.

Um, so the the projects, and if you I'm happy to um to to read these off, it's you know, matter of public record, these are awards.

I will just point out this is subject to change, um, but these are our um what we anticipate on committing funding to or closing on uh in the next one to two years.

So that includes um 353 to 359 um and 391 to 395 Blue Hill, Blue Hill Avenue and Roxbury, umstead village, Russell House and Matapan, um 2085 Washington Street and Roxbury, to Shausheen, um, and East Boston, 4050 to Warren Street in Roxbury, um bar apartments, Roxbury, uh Dot Block, um phase two of the Hancock Building in Dorchester, um, one Waverly and Roxbury, uh Parcel 12C in Chinatown, and um Drexel Village in Roxbury.

Thank you.

Um I wanted to ask one question relevant to Article 39, which allows off site units to be constructed in lieu of providing them on-site if they're in one half mile radius of a project.

Right now, there's a proposal for the planning development and transportation committee um to change this requirement and increasing the radius to two miles.

Um my district does have some concerns about this proposal because we often want to see um you know development when we have development happening, we want to see there, you know, being affordable units in downtown neighborhoods and and close to transportation.

Um, so I'm just curious, sort of, um, I don't want to ask for like the official position of uh the MOH on this, but I just wanted to ask what um impact this proposal would have on the types of um projects that get built and and funded through MOH.

Yeah, thank you, Counselor.

I'll I can start in the mutter if um Andy or Christine have thoughts.

But um, you know, I I um I think as you saw from the uh in the list of projects I just rattled off and um you know the the IDP fund projects.

Uh I think um, you know, we try to spread out throughout the city.

I mean we don't we don't allocate our IDP fund revenues to any particular neighborhood, or we we don't want to sit on funding and wait for projects to materialize in certain neighborhoods when they're in the middle of a housing crisis, right?

So we put it out through competitive processes and try to get it spent.

And and a lot of that funding has gone to gone into neighborhoods like Roxbury, Mata Pen, Dorchester neighborhoods that that are seeing the most development of affordable housing.

The proposal around the off site, I I guess, and I appreciate you saying you know, you're not looking for the official um MOH or mayor's office um position on this.

I do think it's important to consider, um, as I said earlier, you know, one of the goals of the IDP um program is to create mixed income neighborhoods, and I think that's why you have that tight radius, is because um neighborhoods, you know, if they're seeing market rate uh development go up, especially you know, luxury development going up, they will also want to see affordable housing going going up in their neighborhoods as well to keep um to keep it uh mixed income.

Um so I think that's you know that's an important consideration, and so relaxing that requirement would I think you know temper that a little bit.

But um again, it's that's that's my thoughts.

Not I want to speak to that.

No, thank you so much.

Yeah, I was curious because the Fenway Civic Association, which is one of our most active civic associations in my district, um, was very concerned because they you know, there's a lot of development that goes on in the Fedway, and they wanted to make sure that there are projects nearby that make sure that there is um a mix of affordable housing in the neighborhood.

Um and I'm curious.

Um obviously we're um in sort of an economic downturn as it comes to market rate development.

And I'm curious, um, you know, this uh fund since 2000 has collected.

Did you say over is it under over 250 million dollars?

Um we've yeah, we've collected uh since we've since we've been administrating 2014, we've collected 217 million, and we're projected to collect another you know 2530 more over the next year or two.

So I'm curious, um, given how this year's uh projection compares to other years.

Yeah, we've we've been averaging about 15 million dollars a year in IDP revenue for for a while now.

Um, and I think um you know that that is what we're projecting for the next one to two years, but we are because because payments, you know, are being made at the time that um building initially the initial payment, at least under the current policy is made at the time of building permit.

Um so the slowdown that we've seen over the past two years, we are worried that that's gonna affect our projected revenue going forward.

Um now things change very you know kind of very very quickly, and um what I've seen in my 10 years here is that um often we'll be you know, this has happened in the past where we we were expecting revenues to drop off, and then you know, a few big projects happen downtown, and all of a sudden there's you know, uh that triggers big obligations at the IDP fund.

So um, yeah, we're definitely worried about the declining uh IDP revenue as well as as well as um um linkage, but uh you know that that could change.

And I think we're you know we're doing things um uh to try to you know move some of these stuck projects, uh market rate projects along that will will generate some IDP units and IDP revenue.

Yeah, and there's obviously a myriad of like other tools that you're using to try to kickstart development and putting the housing accelerator fund money and and obviously the partnership with the with the state, and I think um you know, having you know been at these announcements with mass housing, we're really grateful for that partnership.

And I think that um, you know, I I am also hoping to see some of the uh fair share, you know, money come our way and to make sure that like we're actually investing in what is the most important, you know, what is important, and then obviously CPA funding.

It's like we have a lot of things going on that we're we're trying to, you know, do and generate and create the most good.

Um so I'm really grateful to MOH for uh for your leadership and stewardship.

I I feel like um kick starting development is a complicated topic because um, you know, because and obviously there are a lot of inflationary pressures that you know the city of Boston cannot control.

Um, but as much as much as we can, I support affordable housing in every single neighborhood because I think it's important for us to create this mixed income communities, and there are um, you know, there are obviously like the BHA is a big part of this as well, and um and so excited um you know about the potential uh for more BHA projects even in the future, obviously might involve a new federal administration and some other factors, but um, but I think there is potential for our city to really take hold and given the you know most recent announcement around rent control being off of the ballot, um which honestly I find to be a little bit of a relief because I think we're in this moment where we we need to focus on these issues that are incredibly important and in almost public um this one ballot question public the distraction of like so many of so many things, and I think um finding the affordability and trying to like support affordability to me means supporting development and figuring out you know 20% of something is something, so however we can get this kick started.

I think I think we'll um you know we're gonna, but obviously, there's a huge hole in our in our budget this year regarding um small project permits, and so I just wanted to ask sort of what collaboration is happening within the mayor's cabinet to kick start development because obviously you're on the receiving end of some of the benefits of what happens when we do have you know active development projects happening in our city.

Um I was just curious sort of what kind of task force or communication is going on throughout the city with the planning department, the mayor's office, and and your work.

So those libraries are definitely happening.

Um Andy, do you want to um say more you're more directly involved in the network?

Yeah, sure.

Thanks, Rick, and thanks, counselor, for the question.

I think it's an important one.

Um, as I think Rick mentioned earlier, you know, we're always always have been very open to discussing with developers of new projects or approved projects, which of the different IDB IDP obligation methods might be most appropriate uh and most suitable to their project, and you know we're our door is always open uh to hear from here from developers and your proposals.

So we're we're we're very much um always willing to to speak with folks.

I think uh I don't know if they speak as much for some of the uh you know for the other departments um within the city, but I I know that um there's the out of as Rick mentioned there's a Housing Accelerator Fund, uh which is a part of this office of residential conversion, and uh I believe that the planning department also has some other initiatives as well.

So certainly uh we're we're always um wanting to be collaborating with with uh external and external partners, and there's a lot of else happening within the city as well.

And I do want to share that I do have a concern.

I mean, it really is has been that we haven't seen you know buildings over a hundred units of residential housing, like they're just not getting built.

And I think um counselor Flynn actually has really been the leader to try to talk about like you know, what of the regulatory hurdles we need to address at this moment, and um while I'm very supportive of Virto and I'm very supportive of um this the regular stretch code, I do think we need to look at the special municipal opt-in stretch code because the thickness of the walls, the windows, the engineering, um, specifically, um, you know, I've met with some engineers about specifically the need for ambient air, given that we're such a cold climate, um, there are engineering challenges too, specifically the special municipal opt-in of Virto, which I'm supportive of a burdo and I'm supportive of the regular stretch code.

And so I was curious if MOH has been in any conversations regarding regarding that special municipal opt-in, because we have there are other communities who have opted into this and wanted to roll out of it.

So I was just curious if MOH has been in any policy discussions regarding that.

Because I really think it's like we don't have affordable housing unless we have housing.

Yeah, Rick, if I could just jump in on that.

I'll just say that, you know, Birdo and you know the cost related to stretch and stuff is something that we continue to look at.

I don't know exactly what committees we've been involved in, but we are working very closely with the Office of Housing and Livable Communities at the state level as well, to make sure that our requirements are matching at one point.

We had different ones and added confusions and stuff, but we have aligned a little bit more, but I think we would need to get back to you on, you know, coming up on the three years.

I think we would need to get back to you on what exactly how we are looking at approaching this going forward.

Thank you so much.

And Counselor Flynn, um, you know, I know you've been you know talking about this.

Um, I met some engineers actually after one of your hearing orders just to understand more what you know what we're talking about here, and I think you know, maybe it's a point of collaboration to just try to come together and see, um, but specifically in terms of engineering, we definitely need to have a plan.

Um, because if there are no buildings over 100 units of housing being built in the city, like we have to ask ourselves, and and also other cities that have opted into the special municipal opt-in, um, are also finding it possible to build uh larger units of housing.

Um, you know, it's something we definitely should look at.

Um, Counselor Flynn, do you have any additional questions or comments?

Thank you, madam chair.

Um, maybe maybe two two points.

Um, I just wanted to let Christine and Andy and Rick know.

And I know you and I know you do know, but um just wanted to remind you.

Um I focus a lot on public housing.

Um I have the most public housing units of any district city council in Boston.

In my neighborhood alone in South Boston, I think there's probably more BHA units than any or maybe the second most of any neighborhood in the city.

Um I bring that up because a lot of the economic development in the city takes place in district two, um, and a lot of the money does leave um it's to support other developments in Roxbury and Dorchester and other other wonderful neighborhoods.

I don't I don't have a problem with that, to be honest with you.

Um, but I do challenge um officials on public housing issues.

That's that's why I'm a stickler for uh supporting residents in public housing, um, and I advocate for them on all types of issues, including um the quality of life, the public safety, uh the health and wellness.

Um I'm focused exclusively now on providing a safer um building for persons with disabilities and seniors, especially especially those that have that need an elevator.

Um, but I do feel like I I have an obligation when I advocate for my constituents that I need to advocate um equally for public housing residents, um, oftentimes, and Sheila Dillon has been an excellent advocate in working with me and have great respect for Sheila, as you probably know.

But I do have a challenging time working with BHA leadership um on quality of life issues, especially when it impacts persons with disabilities.

Um, but I I can't give up on advocating for my constituents because someone at BHA doesn't want me to focus on these issues and they want me to kind of let BHA um figure these issues out.

But when it comes to my constituents, I have an obligation to advocate for them, especially persons with disabilities, seniors and and people of color.

I just wanted to highlight that um with you.

And let me let me say, and I started off about the IDP percentages.

Might be on IDP issues.

I know it might be politically incorrect to say that, but I do think it is important to move forward on development and support developers.

I do agree with Councillor Durkin as well.

The sometimes the Birdo regulations make it difficult for challenges it can be challenging for developers on building because of the environmental regulations that are added.

And they're asking me about Berto, they're asking me about IDP, they're asking me about rent control.

I know I know there's recent recent announcement.

But those issues are making it less likely for financial people or financial institutions to invest their money in the city when we make it, we meaning everybody makes it difficult um to build here.

So I just wanted to share those two points with you.

And Madam Chair, thank you.

Thank you so much, Counselor Glenn, and thank you for your stellar attendance record in our committee.

So unless there are any last comments.

Well, there isn't, Madam Chair.

Okay.

Thanks, Ron.

Um, and so with that, um, unless there are any additional questions or any comments from the MOH panel.

Um, the hearing on, just make sure I got the right.

The hearing on Docket 0968, being that we have no public testimony, um, will be adjourned, and I look forward to uh putting forward um this at the next meeting and making sure that we find these incredible projects.

Thank you all for your time.

Thank you, counselors.

Thank you.

Thank you, everybody.